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S1E20 - The One With The Evil Orthodontist
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Join Alasdair & DeeAnn as they discuss landlines, what the "Real San Francisco Treat" is, and if Barry is, in fact, evil!
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Introduction and Recent Movie Discussion
00:00:04
Speaker
Well hello and welcome to the latest episode of the Purple Door Podcast, a friend's rewatch pod. I'm one of your hosts Alistair alongside my good friend Deanne. Deanne, how are you today?
00:00:15
Speaker
Doing great Al, doing great, loving this weather, feeling a little like spring but a little like we might be getting towards summer so that's awesome. Went saw a great movie like It's a good time of year. It's a good time of year.
00:00:31
Speaker
Movies are good. weather good. is good. How are you doing? Oh, good. I spent a lot of time outside working on some projects and cleaned up the garage. it's the perfect day to do it because it's a yeah yeah little cool in the morning, a little cool in the evening, but lovely during the day. So good times here in North Texas weather-wise for all of us.
00:00:56
Speaker
Yes. Well,
Episode Overview and Trivia Game Introduction
00:00:58
Speaker
awesome. Well, today we are going to review the one with the evil orthodontist. But as always before that, let's get stuck into some bamboozled. And I know you went first last week, but I went first several weeks in a row, I think. so i Yes, you did. Yes, I did. So it's definitely you this week and for another couple, I think.
00:01:20
Speaker
All right. Awesome. Thanks, Al. You got it. All right. Here is.
Timeline Curiosities: Rachel and Mindy
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Speaker
My first question, how long has it been since Rachel and Mindy have talked?
00:01:36
Speaker
That is a great question. I did not write that down. I am going with six months. Ooh, so very close. That was an excellent guess.
00:01:48
Speaker
Seven months. Seven months. Yeah. So. Yeah, I'm curious and I wish I would have been curious about this earlier, but I'm curious if it's actually been seven months since the first episode and the airing of this this episode. But that anyway. That would be interesting to go back and look.
00:02:10
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Yeah. So, all right. So I am ready for your question. All right.
Chandler's Spontaneity Phrase
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Speaker
My first one for you is what phrase did Chandler use the last time he decided to be spontaneous?
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Speaker
Oh, gosh. I don't know what he said, but it ended with, oh, God, um like a doodly hoaloo or or You just got it. You just got it.
00:02:41
Speaker
Indeedio. Well done. Indeedio. Great. That flew out. I'm like, I don't know why I said that. Because deep down you knew. You knew that was it. Because I I could feel it.
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Speaker
All right.
00:02:58
Speaker
All right. So your next question for me. Yes.
Scene Details: Newspaper and Coffee Shop
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Speaker
What newspaper is the girl reading in the coffee shop? She's like, they're sitting at the table in the window.
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Speaker
And I think it's Chandler that they keep panning to and she's reading a newspaper. All right. I did not catch this, but again, I feel like I've got one of a couple. So I'll go with the post.
00:03:23
Speaker
Ah, good guess. It's actually the New York Times. That would be my second guess. It's only because, and i was it's all fuzzy and everything, but I recognize the logo from my daily Wordle connections and all that. so Yes.
00:03:41
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Well, we do, let's see, both Kate and I do Wordle connections, strands, and the mini connections. And once in a while we do letterbox. What about
Daily Word Games and Their Shareability
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Speaker
you? What do you do? The same ones? No.
00:03:55
Speaker
and Okay, which one do you do once in a while? Is it called letterbox? Letter or something? Okay. I don't know that one. See, I always do connections and wordle and the many.
00:04:09
Speaker
And then sometimes I'll do strands. All right. So, yeah, though we do the same four. We do those four every day, though. And letterboxd. Letterboxd I like, but you can't share it.
00:04:20
Speaker
but You can't share your answers or your time with your significant other. So I'm not so keen on it. All right. Well, here's a really lame question for you. Is that one free? Is it on the app? it's You know, it it is. It's on the app. I'll send a thing to what it looks like.
00:04:38
Speaker
Well, yeah, because I've got the app. I don't know. Okay. I'm about to get distracted. I'm so sorry. oh I'm the one who started this conversation. You are quite all right. Okay.
Episode Air Date and Timeline Connections
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Speaker
But but next fun fact, okay, this episode originally aired April 6th, 1995. So that was this episode.
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Speaker
soration yes hang i So the original, the original episode,
00:05:12
Speaker
my gosh. Okay, go ahead and ask me a question. All right, we will wipe this one out. We're off to discombobulated talk. We are, and I did that. I'm sorry. No, I brought up the games, I think. Okay, so it's September 22, 1994. So September to April. Seven months. Is it seven months? Seven months.
00:05:35
Speaker
That's so fun. So there you go. So in real life, it was, I say real life. Yes, you know in real life. And yeah, so that's fun. I like that. That's a good timeline. All right.
00:05:47
Speaker
all
Trivia: Rachel and Barry's Dining Spot
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Speaker
right then All right. Well, my next question for you is where did Rachel and Barry go to eat?
00:05:55
Speaker
We've talked about this. It was the Russian tea room. Yes, we have. Yes. Yes. Because we were talking about the the rainbow room and then we talked about the Russian tea room and all of that. so Yes.
00:06:08
Speaker
Whenever she said that, I was like, we've talked about that. Yeah, I think it's the second time it's come up. Uh-huh. Yes. um
Joey's Detective Work and the Peeper
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All right.
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How did Joey get the peeper's name?
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Did he call information? That's how he got the number. How did he get the name? I i do not remember. I'm not doing well.
00:06:37
Speaker
So he asked the doorman, and then the doorman told him Sidney Mark. And then he called information and got Sidney Marx's number. And then it was a girl.
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Speaker
which gone How they didn't know that from spying. I don't know. think he's got a big old telescope in front of your head. That's true. sure a Good point.
00:07:02
Speaker
All right. My next one for you is how long did Chandler work on his answering machine message? Two hours. Yes, he did. Well done. and Did you notice that he didn't give his phone number? and he ah Did he even give his name?
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Speaker
That's a very good point as well. Yeah, i don't think he did. Okay.
Chandler's Answering Machine Mishap
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What game are Phoebe, Ross, and Joey? And then I think they had it set up for four people, but Rachel was reading a magazine.
00:07:33
Speaker
ah But I don't know. But definitely Phoebe, Ross, and Joey. possibly monica and then i think chandler came in and started playing with them too but anyway all that to say what game were they playing on the coffee table gosh i don't remember them even playing a game well and joseph wanted to argue with me about what game it was and i told him he's crazy well that's quite possible but let's think so that means it's let's go with checkers
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Speaker
That's a good guess. Yeah. um So
Trivia Misstep: Barry's Receptionist
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Speaker
I said it was trouble because it has the poppy thing in the middle. And then it's got all the little guys moving around. But Joseph was insistent that it was sorry, but I'm going with my answer. all right. Well, yeah i got I got neither.
00:08:28
Speaker
So that's all right. Yeah.
00:08:32
Speaker
and All right, so my next one for you is, what is Barry's receptionist's name? Oh. We don't see her, but he calls her on the intercom.
00:08:45
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Yeah. Or answers her on the intercom. Was it Glinda? It is not. It was Bernice. Not even close. Not even close. You've got wicked on the brain with Glinda.
00:08:59
Speaker
Dang. All right, what you got for me? All right, what is on the poster in Barry's office?
Barry's Office Decor Discussion
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Yeah.
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Speaker
It's very funny you ask that question, but i absolutely and I'll tell you why later, but I have, I'm gonna go with that some sort of beach ocean view.
00:09:23
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No, it is it was a really bizarre, Right. Like cartoon snake. And I couldn't figure out what it was wrapped around.
00:09:35
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But it's like pink and blue and smiling. it was And I couldn't read the words that were on it, so I don't have any idea. but But it was they showed it quite a few times, like during the entire interaction between Rachel and him whenever they were going back and forth.
00:09:52
Speaker
um And it it was weird. And that's why that stood out. Well, on that note, I'm going to jump to my last question. What color are the walls in Barry's office?
00:10:07
Speaker
Are they cream? they're they're They're green, but it's a weird green. Green? Yeah, it's a very odd kind of... Like olive?
00:10:18
Speaker
It's light. It's almost lime-ish. It's not not something I think you would choose for an office. Interesting. Yeah. and What you got for me?
Monica's Kitchen Decor and Umbrellas
00:10:31
Speaker
I've got like four left, maybe five. Okay, I've got three.
00:10:36
Speaker
I've got three. and Who does the peeper say that Monica look like in her green dress? Well, you've just taken one of my questions. What what item of clothing does the peeper look pretty, which I like?
00:10:51
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and And I do remember this one is Ingrid Bergman. Yes, that is yeah correct. Nice job, Mr. There we go. I was trying to get back on track because I had to Google them because I thought I knew who they were.
00:11:05
Speaker
But it's one of those things that i do I really know? But thankfully, I did. um All right. I'm going to ask you one. I've got two obscure questions for you, I think.
00:11:17
Speaker
But here's here's one that is unfair and mean, but I thought it was fun. I like it. so i like it When Rachel is on the phone with Mindy, do you remember she's walking around the tables?
00:11:28
Speaker
Yes. How many times does another cast member lift their feet off the table? Oh, God. i Okay, and I almost asked you the question about who is it that makes her turn around? Yes. and Because they were done.
00:11:45
Speaker
How many times does a cast member lift their feet up from the table? So there's one, two, three, four. and then she goes around and it's like one two three four
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i'll give you a small hint you did say it was eight it was eight because she doesn't want past all of them because she stops at one point and but it was and then she turns around and then she goes back and then i thought she went back and then she's standing in front of joey Oh man.
00:12:24
Speaker
Yeah, that was a nice little question. A little tricky. All right, what you want for Who is it that says Mr. Peanut is gay?
00:12:39
Speaker
I remember the line. Go with Ross. No, Ross is the one, so you're outing Mr. Peanut? That's, yep. So who says it? ah Phoebe.
00:12:52
Speaker
Phoebe. no I don't remember. i remember the line, but I can't picture yeah All right. Well, speaking of Ross, what three words does Ross use to describe Chandler when he considered calling her machine to see how many beeps there are?
00:13:10
Speaker
What? So, what three words does Ross use to describe Chandler when he considered calling her machine just to see how many beeps there are?
00:13:22
Speaker
the late the lady went on the date with. Yeah. Is Needy one of them? Needy is, yep.
00:13:31
Speaker
That's the middle one. Okay. Because I think Chandler says, does it seem a little bit? And Ross goes, bam, bam, bam. I think. I'm suddenly saying.
00:13:42
Speaker
No, but you you know but you're in the right. Okay. Stalker-ish? No.
00:13:51
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I don't know. i up I got one. i got one. You got one. Desperate, needy, pathetic. There you go. Okay. Poor Chandler.
00:14:03
Speaker
All right. So why did Barry have to leave the room when the whenever Mindy and Rachel were breaking up with Barry? Why did he have to leave the room? Because I'm going try and get his name, but the kid is choking on his retainer.
00:14:18
Speaker
Yes. And... Here's how I looked out because it's the same kid that's in the previous episode, but he's got a different name.
00:14:30
Speaker
Yep. Yeah. And is it Jason Castellano? Am I making that up? That is ah wow. I wrote down Justin Castellona. That's it. That's what I'm not going to know.
00:14:41
Speaker
don't know. Yeah. All right. That's awesome. All right.
Chandler's Dating Woes and Voice Trivia
00:14:46
Speaker
Let's see. I've just got, are you out of questions? I am. I've got, I've got two more, but one of them's unfaithed. So just going to go with one.
00:14:54
Speaker
Ooh, no, you're going to have to ask them both because that's fine. Okay, okay, we'll do All right. Well, first of all, the the the telephones are quite prominent in this episode. Yeah, they are. What color are the boys' and girls' phones?
00:15:06
Speaker
The boys' phone is black and the girls' phone is that tannish, whitish, like the epitome of a 90s phone, wireless phone. We had that phone. I did, but somewhere between white, tan, and gray.
00:15:23
Speaker
There you go. Yes. Nice. I will tell ive wrote down one final question because I was very excited because I thought the answer was something different. Oh, fine. And I was going to bamboozle you with a crazy piece of information.
00:15:38
Speaker
But then I realized my answer was slightly wrong. So the question was, what are the prominent colors of Monica's kitchen chairs?
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Speaker
but I don't. You know, maybe the cushions on them or the painting. Everyone's quite just going to come. Okay. Because, yeah, Chandler, whenever he's sitting on the back of it and he's got his feet in there.
00:16:02
Speaker
Yeah. And it's like a purple or a green. Yep. So there's a purple one. Okay. um
00:16:14
Speaker
Red? Red. You are two for two so far. Blue? no No. Yellow. Yellow. You are three out of four. There's one more. Okay.
00:16:27
Speaker
So I've said purple, red, yellow, orange. Not orange, but close, but a duller version of orange. That's a very odd thing to say. the but is a duller version of orange? That was a terrible clue. a terrible clue.
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As soon as I said it, i was like, that doesn't make any sense. The most well brown. bri There you go. Yeah, there you go. Was it really brown? It really is brown. Wow, okay. Maybe the clue wasn't so bad after all. don't know. There you go. I love it. Great job. i saw I saw those and I thought, well, that's kind of interesting because I'm convinced the furniture changes a lot more than I care to realize.
00:17:10
Speaker
or that Yeah. Because once a while I'm like, that's brand new. Anyway, I thought for a second, that the colors matched the umbrellas in the opening scene or in the opening credits.
00:17:22
Speaker
And they're close, but they're not quite. So I got very excited thinking there was a connection there, but there's really not, I don't think. Man, that would be a very fun connection, wouldn't it?
00:17:35
Speaker
Yes, yes. So, eh, there we go. But anyway anyway, let's get on with the episode. well we Will we? We'll see where we are. um Let's see. I think I've got...
00:17:47
Speaker
Our printer was on the fritz, it's working now. So I've got my notes here. We start off in the girls' apartment, as you were saying, talking about the toughest snack there is.
Peeping Neighbor Scene and Ugly Naked Guy
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Speaker
And then they they see somebody peeping on them from across the street.
00:18:01
Speaker
And I've got to tell you, so I watched this yesterday, made notes. Then Kate and I watched again this morning. and And when they're looking at the paper, she immediately locked onto the fact we see the entire back wall the fourth wall, if you will, of the apartment.
00:18:18
Speaker
I mean, they there's pictures hanging, there's all sorts on the wall. We've seen bits of it before, but this is really the first time we see anywhere near that level of detail. like They must have built the entire fourth wall, put art on it, all sorts, really for just this this brief scene.
00:18:37
Speaker
Yeah, wow. Yeah, I didn't catch that. um Because we've seen, like I said, we've seen bits of that wall before, depending on the shot that they've they've done.
00:18:48
Speaker
But I thought that was a pretty good catch. But they're pretty disgusted that there's peepers across the street looking at them. And then I think it's Phoebe, right, who goes, oh, that ugly naked guy.
00:19:02
Speaker
Yes, with his gravity boots. His gravity. That's a throwback. if I never had any. I think I can picture them. You kind of bounce around, right? I think so. yeah i am I don't know. i honestly, like in my head, they're gray. Right. And then they've got weird bottoms.
00:19:23
Speaker
And that's all I can, i don't know. I don't know. I missed that trend. Okay. Now i have a question though. Yes. Whenever they were talking about Mr. pe Peanut and Mr. Salty, and they'll come up again at our, no, Mr. Peanut just will come up at the end.
00:19:40
Speaker
Um, I didn't know who Mr. Salty was. Did you know? i do not. I still don't. I did not know. Okay. Well, he's a, he's the, um, it's Mr. Salty. He's a pretzel mascot. Okay. That makes sense.
00:19:58
Speaker
but Yeah. Just very random. But i was like, Mr. Peanut, everybody knows that. Yeah. the Mr. Salty. He's a pretzel. Yeah. I wonder if that's more of a regional thing or something. I don't know.
00:20:11
Speaker
Yeah. Not hard to miss her salty. Um, but, uh, speaking of things we don't know, we kind of move it into central park on the next scene. And Chad was reminiscing about this incredible first date.
00:20:24
Speaker
Um, and you know what, I think he says school children will study it in the future and all that sort of thing. Um, but God, he's not going to call her the next day. i mean, that would be ridiculous.
00:20:36
Speaker
And, um, So one of the great things, we've we've mentioned this, I've mentioned this ah probably almost every week, is it's making me dig into things that I didn't know and just glossed over. So Phoebe tells him to stop being so testosterone-y.
00:20:49
Speaker
And Chandler says, oh, the real San Francisco treat. I have never understood that joke. Didn't know what it meant. Really? Didn't know how to Google it this week. Just... Rice-a-roni, the San Francisco treat. Ding, ding.
00:21:04
Speaker
You know, when I mentioned this to Kate, what must have been last night, she sung the jingle too. So that's really funny that you just did. Yeah. Because it's one of those, one of those like and jingles that lives rent free in your brain for your entire life.
Landline Nostalgia and Spam Calls
00:21:25
Speaker
aye that's And it was a cute, cool commercial, like with the little trolley thing or trolley car. Like going up and down the hill?
00:21:36
Speaker
Yeah. yeah Yeah. I did a whole deep dive into it. And it's, I mean, it's an interesting story, but not enough to kind of sit here and tell the whole story. But basically, yeah, there was a young married couple who lived with an Armenian lady.
00:21:50
Speaker
And I think he worked in a macaroni factory. And then basically she had rice at her house. And they decided to throw it all in one box together. And they said, we've got rice, we've got macaroni.
00:22:03
Speaker
Let's call it Rice-A-Roni. And that was really it. There's probably more to it. But the story wasn't as fascinating as I thought, but really just, yeah, they combined these two things and Rice-A-Roni, the real San Francisco treat, was born. Ding, ding. There you go. Yeah, never heard of that before. Anyway, we're an educational podcast, as we've decided.
00:22:26
Speaker
Because every day is a school day. Exactly. There you go. Yeah. Well, Rachel comes having been out with Barry. Ross is about to have ah some kind of aneurysm, I think. He's wondering what's going on.
00:22:40
Speaker
And they went out, they went to the Russian Tea Room. He bought her some kind of perfume. I don't quite remember. Chanel. Chanel. I imagine that's quite funny. Yes, it is. And, ah you know, it's important because it'll pop up again in a little bit.
00:22:56
Speaker
Indeed. I thought about that after. I was like, that was well played in the beginning. But Rachel had a great time and it was comfortable and it was this and that, but Monica seems to be the voice of reason here.
00:23:09
Speaker
You know, you've got to you've got to end this. um And I think Rachel, I'm trying to remember now, but does she seem on board with Monica's idea of just ending it?
00:23:22
Speaker
a No, not really. Because wasn't she talking about you know, like it's fine, it's comfortable. it didn't seem to me like she was really, don't know. But I know she went, like that was the plan. She was going to go break up with him and then didn't.
00:23:44
Speaker
And then in the next scene, you ended up, I mean, one of the shortest scenes of the episode, they're just in the chair together. Yeah. Obviously having been up to no good. Right.
00:23:55
Speaker
And Rachel has clearly not taken Monica's advice. um But we kind of go to the B storyline here with Chandler leaving this scripted message on Danielle. That was her name, Danielle's answering machine. and You know, the the fork and the spoon and the bowl.
00:24:11
Speaker
Poor old Chandler. Yeah. um I mean, yeah, it took him two hours to come up with that. But you're right, he didn't leave his number. And that would have been a time that you would have. He didn't even say it was him, I don't think.
00:24:29
Speaker
like Yeah, I think you're right. that I'm playing him sort of back in my head, I don't think he said his name. He was just making sure that it sounded like he was having a life. Yeah. Silly dude.
00:24:43
Speaker
Silly dude. Joey, or the person, peeper, now has a telescope looking into the apartment, and Joey is affronted by this because he can't cook naked.
00:24:56
Speaker
Which seems to put him off. Nothing that splatters. is' a That's a great line. Although I had two thoughts on this. My first was, well, if he's in his kitchen, there's no windows there.
00:25:09
Speaker
So he'd be all right in the kitchen. You know, now granted, if he walks around, that's different. Right. But also, I was trying to think, if you're making toast, I don't think I'd ever consider that cooking.
00:25:22
Speaker
You know, know is it i mean and I got thinking, I don't have a point here, but like what's the threshold of, you know, do you have to have more than one ingredient? Does there have to be at least three steps for it to be actually cooking or baking?
00:25:36
Speaker
Because you don't, you just make toast. You don't cook toast. Well, but you do something to the toast after you make it.
00:25:46
Speaker
Like you don't just eat the toast by itself because that's gross. You would have to be a method, I think. Yeah. Yeah. ah I don't know about that there, Al. Okay. Everybody is not as fancy as as you are.
00:26:03
Speaker
i feel like it did not bother me. Like, it was silly because it's like, you know, that's things that my kids were able to do whenever they were like four, yeah five. Yes. You know?
00:26:15
Speaker
um But, yeah. Yeah. No, I'm not mad at him for that. Oh, no. We also know he can really cook. Oh, yeah. with Yeah, we've already covered it when his dad was there and he's slicing up. Yeah. Mushrooms and all sorts of things. all All the things. Way more than I care to chop up.
00:26:36
Speaker
Right. Yeah, I do love that. What is it? Toast oatmeal. Nothing that splatters. Yes. it's It's a good, good line.
00:26:48
Speaker
Yeah. We go back over to Barry's office and Rachel is thinking, oh, what did I What I liked was the part, because then they all look at Chandler. Like, Chandler, your roommate is walking around naked.
00:27:02
Speaker
then he's like, I didn't know that. Right. And so that kind of made me laugh. but And then I wondered, I was like, how would you not know?
00:27:12
Speaker
But then knowing that Joey keeps different hours and Chandler has a nine to five, like, That makes sense. you know Yeah, it would almost be more likely that Rachel or Monica would just walk into their apartment and see him, given the way that they all just walk in and out.
00:27:30
Speaker
Yes, good point, good point. Yeah. yeah But let's see, we go back over to Barry's office. Rachel is now having regrets. and Barry wants to break it off with Mindy and take her back to Aruba. This is his his line that he seems to just default to.
00:27:50
Speaker
He loves Aruba. Yeah. Just go to Aruba. We'll start over. And was that right in thinking that the kid that comes in is the same actor that when Rachel goes to give the ring back?
00:28:05
Speaker
I thought it was. I thought it was the same kid. His hair looked darker, but Maybe, i i don't know. Like, I didn't look enough into it, but I was like, I don wonder if that's the same kid.
00:28:19
Speaker
Yeah. Whenever you said that, I was like, okay, that makes sense. but Yeah, I think i think it yeah think same kid differently is what I'm going with.
00:28:31
Speaker
um All right. So I did, it it was interesting. I um looked up Mitchell Whitfield. He's the guy who plays Barry. Because I do think he plays him quite well. To me, he's a little kind of... Neurotic's not the one, but quite like the way he speaks. He speaks very quickly. He's slightly, but plays it well.
00:28:48
Speaker
Like, I don't like the character at all, but I think this the actor Mitchell Whitfield plays him quite well. and And I was kind of wondering about his voice, because to me, he speaks very quickly.
00:29:01
Speaker
And I was wondering if that was, you know, a character character choice. But no, that's exactly how he speaks. He speaks with a very sort of quick cadence all the time.
00:29:12
Speaker
He's got his own podcast about board games, which I don't really have a particular interest in, but it's actually a really well done podcast because he's like ah like a 30-year board game enthusiast.
00:29:27
Speaker
So he's it's him and then some guy who's like in charge of a board manufacturing company, some guy who's in charge of really popular games and created these games. Anyway, sidetrack, it's really quite interesting.
00:29:39
Speaker
But there's absolutely no doubt it's exactly the same guy because that their voice is exactly the same. um But I think he plays it very well. I think it's called Positively Board Gaming, if anyone's looking for a board gaming podcast.
00:29:53
Speaker
um It's only like five episodes old. But, um yeah, I've kind of been enjoying even though i'm not really a big board game guy. It's kind of fun. It's fun to listen to. There you go.
00:30:04
Speaker
Yeah. But let's see. So they're in yeah they're in Barry's office and he's, yeah, he's, let's go back to Aruba. Let's do go to the honeymoon, all of this kind of stuff. um But we bounce back over to the girl's apartment and Mindy calls Rachel ah wanting to meet up with her.
00:30:20
Speaker
um And that's when Rachel, I think, yes, she's walking around the table, changing directions, all of that stuff. um And Rachel thinks, yep, what did I miss?
00:30:33
Speaker
Well, okay, hang on Because it didn't, before she calls Mindy, or before she talks to Mindy is the whole thing with the um with whenever he calls calls what's her name and then hangs up on her.
00:30:54
Speaker
Oh, is that that scene? Right? I forgot to write that. I think you're right. I don't think that fits anywhere else. yeah Yeah, absolutely. That's it. Yeah, what do this where he's desperate, nitty, and pathetic, according to Ross. There you go. Yes. Yes.
00:31:09
Speaker
Yes. That's exactly right. Yeah. That's right. And then he had hung up on her, and then she came in. And then Rachel comes in, and then that's whenever that's that's whenever she kind of confesses and everything else, and then she starts with the walking. Yeah.
00:31:27
Speaker
Right? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. No, that must be it. Okay. Yeah, and always wondered, like, I remember, you know, if you called somebody's house, but I don't remember if the the beeps before you could leave a message, was that, like, accurate?
00:31:44
Speaker
Yes. Yeah, okay. Because it's fast-forwarding through the messages that are there to get to the next place on the tape that it's going to record. Okay, so it's not getting some kind of urban myth, like that really is the amount of beeps. That's interesting, yeah.
00:32:02
Speaker
Oh, ah Well, I guess it's now the next morning. We're still in the girls' apartment and Chandler's staring at the phone on the table. And it did get me thinking, when did you get rid of your landline, if you have indeed gotten rid of it?
00:32:17
Speaker
Oh, yes. o
00:32:23
Speaker
I think whenever we moved into this house. Right. Because I had a landline... and ah And then we had switched over to like Vonage, which was still a landline day. That's a throwback. I've forgotten that name.
00:32:41
Speaker
Right. So i guess. Internet-based form. Yeah. So I think like around 2014 is we got rid of it. Right.
00:32:54
Speaker
My parents still have their landline. They regularly get... um You know, all the spam calls and and literally I don't think anybody calls them on it, but they have one.
00:33:08
Speaker
Yeah, my parents still have theirs. It's a different phone system back home. yeah So my but my sisters will still call that phone first. um But yeah, I think probably about the same, maybe a couple years.
00:33:23
Speaker
How is it a different phone system? They don't like, they have cell phones. Yeah, so basically, like here on your cell phone, the area code is the same as the landline.
00:33:37
Speaker
Like ours is 940, you know, or 972 or 214 for Dallas, whether it's a landline or a phone. In the UK, the phones, the the cell phones or mobile phones have their own area code essentially um that are different from landlines.
00:33:58
Speaker
So, yeah, so it's a little bit different. um And like my parents have like, you know, the lowest plan you can get with just X amount of minutes and all of that kind of stuff. You know, kind of the original plan that we used to all have with amount minutes. I think they still have that.
00:34:17
Speaker
So my sisters always try call the landline first, unless they know they're out and then they'll call call the phone. So it's just it's just just a bit different um in terms of like area code.
00:34:28
Speaker
It's of a different system. Whereas here, they're more meshed together, the landline and um your cell phone number. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was about the same time. you're right, we had that.
00:34:42
Speaker
I remember we had like an internet-based landline for maybe a year. Because, you know, if the kids came home from school just before we did, you know there was a way of calling us kind of thing.
00:34:54
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, kind of phased out, what, 10 or 15 years ago, I suppose. But um yeah, Rachel's getting ready to go and get, I can't remember how she describes it, but her, I don't know, is her eyes gouged out or something
Jennifer Grey's Accent and Career Choices
00:35:07
Speaker
at work?
00:35:07
Speaker
Scratched out, yeah. Scratched out, there you go. Yeah, she's got to go to work and get her eyes scratched out by Mindy. That's it. Well, we're in Central Park and i great our Mindy asked Rachel to be a maid of honour. Mindy's voice bugs me a bit, which is kind of, I can't even do the accent. Yes. Very Long Island-ish, but kind of over the top.
00:35:28
Speaker
Yeah. A little bit. Now, tell me what you know about Mindy, Jennifer Grey, whoever it is, the nose. um Okay. Because you know more than I do.
00:35:42
Speaker
Okay. Yes, because Oh, one of somebody made a comment about Jennifer Grey, because you remember whenever ah Rachel called and she had found out that Mindy and Barry had gone to Aruba and everything. And then she was on the phone with Mindy. And then she said, you know, and I hope that, you know, your kids have your your your nose.
00:36:07
Speaker
Right. or Whatever it was that she said, but made a comment. So Jennifer Grey, she was, um, she like, I i would venture to say her most famous a role was in dirty dancing with, um, yeah, with Patrick Swayze.
00:36:26
Speaker
And that's like the, that was the sleepover movie of every sleepover ever whenever I was growing up. But, um, she, she, her nose was large.
00:36:39
Speaker
Like it was larger. And then she got a nose job. Like I don't even recognize her. Like whenever in I was like, I know that that's Jennifer Gray, but not because there's anything about her that stands out anymore.
00:36:55
Speaker
You know, knew that. And so I, that's as much as I do know, but like it changed her looks very significantly where she doesn't even look like the same person.
00:37:08
Speaker
Yeah, and I think, because it's, tell me if I'm wrong here, but this is not Jennifer Grey, or this is, in this episode. Yeah. This is, but then she, that's right, it's a different actress in Barry and Mindy's wedding because she didn't want to appear because she had some sort of, it's like mental issues, but i think she had, it was almost like stage fright.
00:37:31
Speaker
Like she just, yeah she stopped acting for a while. um and maybe that's related. I'm not quite sure, but it's very much, you completely different actress. but we yeah Whenever they actually have the wedding.
00:37:44
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I think it's something. Yes. It was something to the fact that made a very self-conscious or, or something like that. I'll need to, need to look it up. But yeah, Mindy admits that she was having an affair with Barry when Rachel and Barry were together.
00:38:00
Speaker
And this is where the Chanel comes back in that you brought up earlier. here's Rachel's wearing on her wrist and Mindy smells it and yeah it's ah they both kind of realise that they've both been played a little bit by by Barry in this episode
00:38:21
Speaker
um the way we go back over to let's see we're back up at the girls apartment that Chandler realises he's accidentally shut the phone off which is what he told her he'd done yeah That was so funny. And then Monica's like, ah you know, I thought you would appreciate the irony.
00:38:38
Speaker
Right. She's so mad. It's so funny. ah Again, that's when Joey comes in. As you said, he spoke to the doorman and found out that it' it's a Sidney Maxx.
00:38:50
Speaker
And the peeper starts complimenting Monica, looks like Ingrid Barkman in the green dress, um which is funny. it's ah Again, there's some storylines that you see in multiple sitcoms of the time.
00:39:06
Speaker
And one of Fraser's first episodes, I think it was just maybe episode four or five. um There's a very similar storyline, but it really, it's the whole episode is about Martin.
00:39:18
Speaker
Fraser buys him telescope. So he has a hobby. And then he's looking through the telescope and sees somebody looking back. And they spend days and days writing messages to each other and just holding them up. And eventually turns into a phone call.
00:39:32
Speaker
And then at the end of the episode, they meet. But um it kept they're paying each other compliments and things back and forth on these these huge notepads. It's a great one.
00:39:43
Speaker
How funny. Yeah, so was sort of funny that that was reflected a little bit in this in this one. To me, I don't know which one was first, to be honest, but just a fun little storyline, I thought.
00:40:00
Speaker
But... We go back to Barry's office and this is where Rachel and Mindy both march in.
00:40:10
Speaker
don't know. They're both... I don't think they don't let him away with it because he kind of has to choose. But yeah, they're both going to break up with him. And within about 30 seconds, Mindy's kind of just forgotten all about it, has forgiven him.
00:40:26
Speaker
Doesn't honestly seem that bothered, to be honest. um It's a very funny, weird dynamic. It is all very weird. Like, even if we go back to whenever two girls are talking and kind of, you know, just being completely honest with each other and telling each other all the business.
00:40:50
Speaker
And it's just weird. I don't know. and then, yeah, Barry's like, oh, yeah, yeah it's just weird.
00:41:01
Speaker
And as much as he's kind of slimy to me. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. but And I'm not any way excusing. mean, Barry is a slime ball.
00:41:13
Speaker
There's no doubt. But I just can't quite believe how happy or comfortable Rachel and Mindy both seem to be with. Like, they're they're they're not even really upset.
00:41:24
Speaker
Like, they're kind of mad. But as soon as he says he's sorry, they're both like, ah, okay. It seems to me. Yeah. Well, and it was weird to me that like, and I guess it's because everybody in that story just was wrong.
00:41:43
Speaker
Right. now thanks it's It's not like one was done more wrong than the other. But, you know, even after the two girls had kind of talked through how what a crappy friend the other, you know, they were, then they just hugged.
00:42:01
Speaker
And then it's like, let's go get Barry. and then, ah yeah, I don't know. I feel like it you know it's a sitcom. It doesn't have to be, you know, it doesn't need to be dramatic. But it just seems very off the wall.
00:42:20
Speaker
Yeah, and then Mindy's basically forgiving him straight away. Says she's probably still going to marry him. Because she wants to be, whether it's Dr. Barry Farber, DDS, DDS. Yes, and go to Aruba.
00:42:33
Speaker
Yeah, she's a very forgiving soul, it appears. But not really, because she was complaining earlier about the capri pants and what all was she talking about?
00:42:50
Speaker
ah Whenever they were going back and forth, she was like, you know, you're my oldest friend except for whoever's Schaefer and yeah all that kind of stuff.
00:43:01
Speaker
I don't know. Oh, the French, she lost all the weight and she still got like a something face. Turns out she didn't have a pretty face. That's right. That's what I mean. Dang. I mean. Yeah, it's a low blow by Minda.
00:43:14
Speaker
I guess she's still living in this kind of elite bubble of some fancy parts of Long Island,
Rachel's Growth and Independence
00:43:21
Speaker
I guess. this is This is what Rachel would have become, which we kind of allude to in the the next scene, because Rachel's kind of debriefing with Monica. Yes.
00:43:31
Speaker
I think she really does realize that this is what her life would have been. I think she sees her old self in Mindy to me. Yep. And is is really glad she's made the right choice.
00:43:43
Speaker
um She knows it's the right thing. Old Rachel might have gone back, um even though she didn't she didn't seem that attracted to him. She talk calls him Mr. Potato Head and things in the beginning.
00:43:56
Speaker
yeah Maybe that yeah comfort and familiarity she talked about, she would have gone back. But she's grown, she's changed, and she knows that this is this is for the best.
00:44:06
Speaker
yeah So and we kind of skipped over this, that I guess Mindy taught Rachel how to kiss. And then, because Joey walks in and sees... Yeah.
00:44:17
Speaker
Yeah. often And he's good old Joey. Good old Joey. Yeah. But we wrap this episode up back in Central Park when Danielle shows up because she hasn't heard from Chandler, thought she'd swing by.
00:44:31
Speaker
um and then Chandler just sees that as desperate. I mean, the guy's just a train wreck, as we've discussed. When it comes to relationships, he is damaged goods, there's no doubt.
Chandler's Insecurities in Relationships
00:44:42
Speaker
Because I saw his suite, she did a nice thing, she just wants to make sure he was all right. Right. Yeah. And then it's... i am And it's, yeah, what a 180, right?
00:44:55
Speaker
Because school children will be taught about this and, eh, don't know. Yeah, it's just a funny one. Now, and I got thinking at the end of this episode, so I think we are on exactly the same page it comes to Barry and our feelings about him.
00:45:11
Speaker
But this episode is called the one with the evil orthodontist. And I didn't think the evil was the most ah apt description. I think there could be other descriptions. So if you were going to rename this episode, the one with the something orthodontist, what would you do to fill in the blank there?
00:45:28
Speaker
Either slimy or gross. i was going I was going with slimeball or something. Yeah. It's oogie. I don't know. Oogie, yeah. Or,
00:45:39
Speaker
ah ah yeah, I don't know. Two-Face? Maybe the Two-Face orthodontist. Or indecisive orthodontist. Indecisive, it to me, is too nice. i'm indecisive about what to eat for dinner.
00:45:54
Speaker
you know ah Good point. Good point. fair. But i just thought I just thought evil was a funny – nothing about him struck me as evil. He just struck me as, a yeah, loose morals and not a nice guy in a lot ways. right Right. Yeah. Sucky.
00:46:12
Speaker
Yeah. I'd go with that. The sucky over the dogs. I just don't like it. Well, tell me well letso let's bounce on over to listener mail. And just for no reason at all, let me see if I can introduce this properly. with ah
00:46:30
Speaker
For no reason at all. Why not have a drum roll? Why not have a drum roll? four we We had three pieces of listener mail that came in. So let I'll read these to you and then you jump in with any feedback.
00:46:41
Speaker
They're very similar in tone. I don't think you'll be surprised. But Veronica, our friend Veronica Zahorikova said that she didn't like this episode. I know they needed to somehow end things with Rachel and Barry.
00:46:54
Speaker
She doesn't like how Rachel is cheating with Barry. and lus of it is that she didn't feel was really she didn't feel that Rachel felt it was a really big deal and she just kind of left it off with Mindy.
00:47:06
Speaker
ah Veronica goes on to say that she's actually not a big fan of the first season overall. She felt it was too serious and not enough situational comedy. ah Really interesting take with that one.
00:47:18
Speaker
ah that yeah I won't know until we get farther along, but I i do know that season one's definitely not one of my favorites. yeah Not awful, but not one of my favorites.
00:47:30
Speaker
Right, but but good and solid in that they're developing all the characters. feel like we know a little bit more about Phoebe, but Phoebe needs a little more development. But, you know,
00:47:44
Speaker
Right there at the beginning, just trying to establish everything. Yeah. i don't know. But I do agree because, yeah, ah season one is not my favorite. I know that absolutely 100% sure. Yeah, I think it's pretty common. I was just thinking, like, Frasier breaks the mold a bit because they had Cheers. It was a spinoff.
00:48:04
Speaker
So season one is really good. But things like Parks and Rec, which I love, um that first season was a struggle for me. And then it became incredible. Mm-hmm. Schitt's Creek, I think somewhere in the middle. Season one I thought was good, but was not.
00:48:19
Speaker
Certainly not my favorite either. But I did i do feel it started off quite in in a strong way. but um Yeah, friends, you're right. They to find the characters, develop the characters. I think they changed a lot from their original vision as season one progressed.
00:48:36
Speaker
Well, okay. And so one thing I do want to point out, and absolutely, and you kind of touched on it briefly about Rachel, you know, and she's changed so much.
Rachel's Temptation and Growth
00:48:48
Speaker
and And I think, you know, she said, I didn't like how Rachel cheating with Barry is looked at as something not a big, it's not that big of a deal.
00:48:58
Speaker
And I think that that's probably, yeah it was irritating the way that the two girls, it's like, oh yeah, you know, I messed around with him whenever y'all were engaged too. And okay.
00:49:10
Speaker
But I think that, I think that it was to kind of, close that whole story with her old life. It was more of a, just to put a bow on it and be done.
00:49:24
Speaker
I think you're right. And our next comment from Jessica Storm, I think, aligns with that beautifully. Because she said, the episode's just weird. I remember in the first episode, Rachel said, Barry, here we go, reminding her of Mr. Potato Head, and she was more attracted to the gravy boat. Oh, yeah. That was it.
00:49:41
Speaker
So why would she sleep with him again? It doesn't make sense to me at all. And it doesn't, but I think you're right. i think they kind of had to, they had to find a way of ending things with Barry and also sort showing Rachel's growth as we get to the, we're near the end of season one at this point.
00:49:59
Speaker
Yeah. And, and it was also a nice little dramatic thing because it was like things with Ross are ah about to happen. And then Barry walked in.
00:50:12
Speaker
yeah so it kind of paused a little bit more on the Ross and Rachel thing. Absolutely. And, um, yeah. And then Katie, Katie Condren. We love Katie Condren. She is hey katie cadre a current co-worker of mine and then a former co-worker of all of us when Deanne and I and Katie used to work together.
00:50:34
Speaker
But we love Katie Condren and Katie does not hold back. I was disappointed in Rachel in this one. She had just become i begun her independent I don't need no man. i don't need daddy's credit kind of lifestyle.
00:50:47
Speaker
Then she gets weak and crawls back to this tool. Ooh, I hate Barry so much. He's a creepy little misogynistic jerk. And then Katie just reminds us that her feminist side is showing.
00:50:58
Speaker
Otherwise, good episode. Maybe it should have been the one with the creepy little misogynistic jerky orthodontist or something. Right. There you go. Katie should have named this one. Yes.
00:51:10
Speaker
so i agree Or just the tool. it Just the one with the tool. Yeah, I like that one. Ooh. Yeah, good one. Katie leaves the best comments.
00:51:21
Speaker
So thank you, the three of you. it It always adds to our episode when we have listener mail. Makes us smile. We love connecting with you guys that way. So keep it coming in.
00:51:32
Speaker
The best way is through our Facebook facebook group, the Purple Door Podcast group, or hit us up on Instagram too. We are over there. But who would you say is your Gunther Central Punk of the week?
00:51:45
Speaker
Okay, so i had a job or i i had a little bit of a tough time only because it was so heavy about Rachel and I absolutely would not pick her for this week because no.
00:52:02
Speaker
and But i picked Monica because she was just a good friend. She gave good solid advice to Rachel. She gave good solid advice to Chandler.
00:52:13
Speaker
And, um, and she was funny, like she had some pretty good quippy one-liners in this one. And I've made the comment in the past that, you know, Monica is not somebody that I normally think of being a really funny friend, but I think she actually is, you know, like, yeah. yeah Um, so Monica is, is my Guther Central perk of the week.
00:52:42
Speaker
I love it. It may not surprise you to hear that it's mine too. i I kind of wanted to choose Rachel because and like the way it kind of ended, where she's looking back on her old life a bit and is realizing that that is, that's not for her anymore.
00:53:01
Speaker
You know, she was tempted to go back. um She, you know, I think there was some comfort there. some comfort there, but she resisted, she realized she's not that person.
00:53:13
Speaker
So I like that about this episode, but she's too easy just to, you know, sleep with Barry when he's engaged to her former a maid of honor, still kind of best friend.
00:53:24
Speaker
So can't look past that. So for the exact same reasons you just listened, Monica's mine too, because she seems like the level-headed person in all of this. Good, solid advice, being a good friend of that being Oprah Baird.
00:53:37
Speaker
And honestly, she's not always my favorite character. So when I see a really good Monica episode, I'm very much inclined to pick her. So I agree with you this week.
00:53:50
Speaker
There you go. Or I agree with you, however you want to look at that. Indeed. Indeed. But oh how many, i was going to say, how many coffee cups did you give?
00:54:02
Speaker
So I struggled a little bit with this one because I don't love the episode. I've got to be honest. I don't love the main storyline, but like the peeper angle. I think there's some funny lines there. I like Chandler.
00:54:15
Speaker
Again, I do love a good unhinged Chandler. So I like some of the some of the subplots I like, but don't like the the Rachel Berry, Mindy arc at all. yeah So last week was by the lowest of the season coming in at terrible 5.5. better than that.
00:54:32
Speaker
it's better than that ah But it's... Anyway, I'm settling on a six, which isn't great, but it's a six for me this week. No espressos, no nothing like that.
00:54:47
Speaker
Just a straight six cups of coffee. How about you? Yep, this one was six for me as well. And, yeah, I don't know, because last week I gave it 6.5. And, yeah, I and um yeah i mean i i I don't know. There was, yeah.
00:55:08
Speaker
I liked the monkey better. Yeah, okay. i could see it's not yeah but But that was just me because you hated it. You hated it hard on that episode. I did. You hated it very, very hard. Yes. But, and I was, you know, I was not hating so hard. I hated a lot of things about it, but there was some clever, funny things ah to me.
00:55:33
Speaker
But this one, this one is six. Cause yeah, me, you know, it's all right. Like I'm not sad about it at all. Yeah. And yeah, is it six just feels right for this one. I'm right there. yeah Well, I've got to tell you next week. I'm looking forward to next week. We're discussing the one with fake Monica and I've got to just tease something out there. I'm looking forward to this one.
00:55:58
Speaker
Now, So I reached out to Claudia Shear. She's the lady who plays fake Monica. We never actually find out her name, which didn't occur to me. And two quick things. I was really hoping to you know be able to record a podcast with, it you know, you throw out these things and 99% of the time people don't reply.
00:56:19
Speaker
you know, that's fine. You know, completely understand. She not only replied, she follows us now on Instagram. But I had to apologize. She is doing auditions and rehearsals and said basically as she is completely tied up for a long time and didn't.
00:56:33
Speaker
I think she kind of said she didn't want to kind of just do it if she didn't do it right. But she was very nice, sent us a message, replied. I've got to give a a huge, huge shout out to Claudia because, you know, these people are in the business. I'm sure they get messages all the time. they may not even see them.
00:56:51
Speaker
That's fine. But she... She got back to me within 24 hours and and was very, was appreciative. So a huge thank you to Claudia Sheen and I'm excited to review her episode next week.
00:57:02
Speaker
Yes. Ooh, well, whatever she is working on right now, wish her the absolute best of luck and and maybe we'll dig around, find out, you know, what her project is right now and yeah continue to support because that's just so cool.
00:57:19
Speaker
I think I'll send her a message and ask her what it is because i'd love to I'd love to just promote on here, talk about it, make sure it's out there in the universe if that's something that she's open to. Yeah, because it's just all the good vibes. the good vibes. All the good vibes indeed. Well, on that note, yeah, next week it will be the one with fake Monica.
00:57:39
Speaker
But we've had a great time this week. And thank you guys all for listening to the Purple Door podcast.