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The One With The Lesbian Wedding
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Join Alasdair and DeeAnn as they discuss all things wedding related, jokes that may not be written today, and the redemption of Ross!!
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Introduction to Purple Door Podcast
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Speaker
Well, hello and welcome to this week's episode of the Purple Door Podcast, a friend's rewatch pod.
Balancing Life and the New School Year
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Speaker
I'm one of your hosts, Alistair, alongside the wonderful Deanne. Deanne, how are you today?
00:00:17
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I am doing great, Al. I'm doing great. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Yeah, we're getting into the into the groove of the new school year.
00:00:28
Speaker
All of that good stuff. It's starting to get busy again, but busy with good things for both of us, I think.
Recap of 'The One with the Lesbian Wedding'
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Absolutely. It's an exciting time of year. It really is.
00:00:39
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And um I couldn't be more excited to just take time out. and sit And talk about friends with you. Indeed. Again, the happy little corner of our busy lives discussing the best TV show there ever was.
00:00:54
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So, yes, let's get stuck right into it. I'm pretty excited about this one. I've got to be honest. I've been, you know, when you look through the list of episodes, sometimes you don't remember quite what one is where and all of that. yeah but This one jumped out. i was like, this is a pivotal one to me.
00:01:11
Speaker
So I'm excited to get stuck into the one with the lesbian wedding. Yes. Yes. And I have to be honest with you. Like this one, I was like, okay, I remember that Susan and ah Carol got married.
00:01:29
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but i had not remembered all the things that happened in this episode i i couldn't remember the the other storyline with phoebe until i really thought about the wedding and i remember phoebe has a little line. We'll get to it at the end of the review. At the wedding. And then I played it back in my head. was like, alright, that's the B plot. to it The second storyline.
Impact of 'Friends' in the 90s
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See, and then ah even with the main storyline, some of the big relationship things that happen, I i don't know why but it it was not
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immediately ah it didn't come right back to me I watched it and I was like wow that was a really powerful episode that I did not realize was so very powerful yeah and it's a big deal at the time and again we'll get into all of this they were pushing the boat out with what was normally seen on television at this point in the 90s so more than just a TV episode which I think is super cool
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Um, but I'll tell you what, for Bamboozled, I feel a little light
Trivia Game: 'Bamboozled'
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this week. I've only got seven questions. Oh, I have ten. Okay. Yeah, I kind of I went through it and I was like, I thought I had more. Just a mere seven. So that tells me that you should definitely start, um, this week's round of Bamboozled.
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Okay. Well, we're going to start off with just a, uh, I don't even know what kind of question this is, but insert funny line here.
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All right. Which is scarier, a lamb or a duck?
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Oh, I remember that bit. I'm going to go with, is it duck? It's not. It's a lamb.
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Because it's the movie would have been called silent Silence the Silence of the Ducks. That's right. That's a great line. That cracked me up. I thought that was so funny.
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And so, you know, the first time that I watched it, you know, I went through. But, um you know, so then I started the second time and that popped into my head. And I was like, oh, that's a funny question.
00:04:04
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I want to ask it. That's a great question. That was my first question before I started the second. Funny, funny tangent. Do you remember last week I mentioned to you the other comedian Nate Bargetsy?
00:04:18
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Yeah. your family He, and just the other day, it's funny, I didn't make the connection until right now, was watching it just a quick bit of one of his skits. He was talking about how, you know, bread is the enemy if you're trying to lose weight. This is what the doctors say, you know, cut back on bread.
00:04:33
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And yet, and bread makes you tired. You know, so you're tired and you're fat because you've eaten too much bread. But yet if you go to the park, all people do all day is feed the ducks bread and you've never seen a duck that's fat or yawn.
00:04:46
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And that's a good point. There you go. There you go. He's dropping the knowledge was old Nate Bargetti. Yes. That's a great timely first question.
00:04:57
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Yes. Let's see. My one for you is actually the first question about the first scene. so in the opening scene, Ross has a very large clock on his wall with a very large animal on it.
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What animal is it? Is it the dragonfly thing? It's the dragonfly. I was going to say insect. I thought I may give it to it, but yes, it's a dragonfly.
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Okay. Do you know that's so funny because I noticed that dragonfly, but I didn't realize it was a clock. Yep. I'm glad you said that. Yeah. The dragonfly was much more prominent than anything else.
00:05:35
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And I did wonder if that's something to do with, cause he's not into bugs and dinosaurs and Jurassic park has something to do. You know maybe it was actually a mosquito and not a dragonfly, but it looked like a dragonfly to me.
00:05:47
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Yeah, it definitely was. Right. no Okay. Yeah. But there we go. All right. Good job. So who was Chandler, thank you. Who was Chandler impersonating?
00:05:58
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when he was singing about Ross being the bitterest man. You know what? I wanted to talk about this because here's the thing. That's one of my favorite lines that Chandler does in the whole series.
00:06:09
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I love it. And I have no idea what the reference is. I don't know what the song originally is. I don't know who he's in passing. I know nothing. Neither did Joseph. And I was like, what?
00:06:20
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That's so weird. And so I was like, well, that's going to be one of my questions because how do you not? Because I laughed out loud and Joseph goes, i don't get it yeah i just love the way he's famous. He's being Mr. Rogers.
00:06:34
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Whatever he is, the ah it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. a beautiful day day in the neighborhood. Would you be mine? Won't you be my neighbor?
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And so whenever he's walking over, who's the bitterest man in the living room or whatever. And then he says, and he pauses and he's doing his shoes because like whenever Mr. Rogers, is you know, he changes his sweater and his shoes while he's singing that song.
00:07:05
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And then, um yeah and then he goes neighbor to Ross, that was play on Mr. Rogers' neighborhood. Mr. Rogers was before my time here. I know who he is. I was going to say before your time, and I was like, oh, my God.
00:07:22
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i don't want I don't think so. i don't know exactly when he was on the air, but before my time here. So he's one of those people. I know what she looks like. I've seen the very famous picture. Now, tell me if I'm wrong here with the details of him with his feet in like a paddling pool with the mailman who was a black man. He was a white man.
00:07:41
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And that was a big deal. that right? Right. yeah you know I kind of know him for that. Now, it that I don't know all of the and things, but yes, that that happened on his show. but Oh, yeah.
00:07:56
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ah You didn't see, i think it was Tom Hanks who played him in the Mr. Rogers. Okay, Fred Rogers was ah just ah such a good, like,
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good morals, good values, like be you be kind and you be kind to yourself and you love one another. You take care of each other. and he, it was a a kid's show on channel 13.
00:08:26
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And then after that, they had like Daniel Tiger's neighborhood. And so whenever my boys were little, that was, there was some of the same characters, but it was the same set of,
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morals and you know just the golden rule and be kind and and all of that but it yeah aww alright we need to look up Mr. Rogers I love that but I did love the way he sings yeah it's ah it's a yes and Chandler's hilarious but wow I don't know I just figured that was a part of everybody's core memories and apparently it is not yeah I'm surprised that old Mr. Willison That, you know, yeah. Well, yeah. had no
00:09:18
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Right. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it is weird. I don't know. Hopefully there are people out there that will back me up and be like, oh, yeah, no, I totally know that.
00:09:30
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I'm sure there are people who are listening to this now who will back you up without a doubt. got no doubt. All right, tell you what, my second question for you,
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Why were was Carol and Susan's caterer unable to do the wedding? Oh, they got in a mountain biking accident and were in a full body cast.
00:09:53
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They were indeed. That sounds quite severe. Yes. yeah I feel like maybe my questions are too hard. I'm sorry. No, don't bring it. I like it. My next question, it is hard.
00:10:06
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so It's ridiculously hard. I love it. and But I'm going to tell you why it's significant. Right. So what's Phoebe wearing around her neck whenever she comes in and she's telling the the gang about Rose and that the spirit ah didn't go far?
00:10:25
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ahha Okay. So I love this question. I don't know the answer, but i have an educated guess. Okay. But don't want to give... the guess away because it is actually could be the answer to another question I have.
00:10:42
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So I could be putting these things together in my mind. What does she have around her neck? A knitted scarf. No, it's ankh.
00:10:53
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yeah The ancient ancient sign. for eternal life. Yes. Yes. And I, ever since I was in fifth grade and we went and saw the King Tut exhibit at the museum in Dallas, and that is like burned into my memory.
00:11:11
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i saw that. ah But yes. And onk. No, that's a great question. Cause now that you say I can see it and i I do remember that being there.
00:11:24
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All right, well, tell you what I'm going skip a question to ask you something similar. ah when When Phoebe meets Mr. Alderman, he is wearing something around his neck. What is it? What color is it?
00:11:38
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It's a yellow ascot. There you go. was trying to think of it. I knew it wasn't really a tie or a cravat ascot. That's a one. Yeah, like Freddy on Scooby-Doo, who is the purple ascot. Yes, exactly.
00:11:53
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Yeah. That's so funny because i didn't even notice it until the second time I watched it. I thought, that's so fun. right. All right. right What did Rachel like to eat whenever she was little and um her mom was willing to call somebody to find out how to make it?
00:12:17
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Because she was upset. Man, I think I'm about to go 0 for 4, but these are good questions. this is This is not the question's fault at all. What did she like? She had to call somebody.
00:12:32
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Yeah, because she's like, oh, you know, she's trying to cheer up because Rachel's really upset. And she's like, would you like some of the, that you liked whenever you were a little?
00:12:44
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I can call Carmela and find out how they were made. The way that she said it, It was like, um you know, you're thinking that she would give them to her, but that's why it was so fun.
00:12:57
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I'm going to have to go with some kind of some kind of muffin. I'm on poor form today. um so They were marshmallow treats. oh And so I imagine that they were like Rice Krispies or something. Right.
00:13:11
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You know? But I... Yeah. All right. All right. We're on the struggle bus. I'm on the struggle bus today. But... ah you You may be with this, but this is a tricky question.
00:13:23
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But it's it's vintage bamboozled. In the first scene in Central Park where Monica's making the menu and Rachel is distracted about her mom coming, she offers Chandler and Ross two drinks on a tray. What color are the mugs? Blue. One of them I couldn't tell if it was blue or green, but blue it is.
00:13:44
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There's another mug with another color. Yellow. Mad two for two, two for two. You got it. All right. Nice. One of them has a cigarette butt and the other one has the lipstick.
00:13:56
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That is it for bonus points. what What's in or on the cups. Yes. right.
00:14:05
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Why is Rachel's mom is thinking or why is does Rachel's mom think that Rachel would understand why she wants to leave Dr. Green?
00:14:16
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I like this line because she didn't marry her Barry, but the mom did. Yeah. I think that's a powerful line. I like that one. um yeah ah Speaking of Mrs. Green here, um when Mrs. Green's first in the apartment, what's ugly naked guy doing?
00:14:39
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She stands at the window and asks why. Yeah, and she says, oh, he's playing a cello. He is playing a cello. Unattractive nude man. Yes, that's right.
00:14:51
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Which I love the way she says that. Yes. Yes. Yeah, much so much kind of way. It's unattractive. Yes. Large fellow or something.
00:15:03
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Yes. What is it? Unattractive. Nude. Yeah. Yes, that's it. Yeah. Okay, so what food did Joey help make for the wedding?
00:15:15
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Oh, the pigs in a blanket. He's very proud of how he wrapped those bad boys. Yeah, he As he should. Good for Joey. I like it. I do. i Yeah, what is it like? these These pigs won't blanket themselves or wrap... I don't know. Something. It's a very funny line. All right, let's see. I've got two left for you.
00:15:38
Speaker
This one... There's a window here. So don't, if you don't get exactly, because that would be very unfair. When Monica has Chandler and Phoebe helping in the kitchen, how much time does she say they have left?
00:15:53
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Basically till the wedding.
00:15:57
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I know that they lost two minutes. They did. And she kind of says, we have this much time. Go, go, go. I, six hours.
00:16:10
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yeah You're halfway there, 12 hours and 36 minutes. Wow. hey Yeah. no that was not close at all.
00:16:22
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All right. So what was the cue that Joey's scene was about to happen and everybody turned to watch because he said, oh, it's me, right after something happened. Is it some guy's going to, like, shoot himself in the head? Uh-huh.
00:16:39
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Yeah. Okay. Right. He's going to shoot himself and there's a gunshot. That's right. Okay. All right. My final question for you.
00:16:52
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What are Carol's parents' names? I have that as one of my questions. It's George and Adelaide. Adelaide, Adelaide.
00:17:03
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Yeah. I've Adelaide, but of course there's Adelaide and there's all sorts of, be I wasn't quite sure either. Yes. Okay. All right. So what's, there's a cookie jar in the girl's apartment and it is in so many shots, like right behind somebody's head.
00:17:24
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Right. ah And it's, it's a really cute cookie jar. Right. Did you notice it? It's white and black.
00:17:35
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And ah my question is, What's the shape on the of the girl's cookie jar? I think I'm thinking of something else. the what The jar, of course, I can picture is the one that says pickles one cent, which I know is not that one, obviously.
00:17:52
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Is it a cat? It's not. It's a giant, like, alarm clock, and it says cookie time. Yes, it does. Yes. Yes.
00:18:03
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yes Yep, I can picture the cookie time. Yes. Okay, and then I have another one that yeah i it's just something that stood out. and Can you name two of the three things that Rachel's mom says she wants?
00:18:22
Speaker
Why she's thinking about leaving Dr. Green. She wants and she says three things. Okay, she wants to potentially try marijuana. Oh, that's funny. That's not what. Not one. Okay. Not one of those three. Okay. She wants to. She does. Yeah. Well, yeah.
00:18:42
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No, there's the scene whenever she's telling Rachel how great Rachel's life is and everything. And she says, i want.
00:18:53
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And then she looks at things. Is one of them have a get a job? Have a job? no No. No, that's something else. She wants to... She's going to have money. That makes it way different.
00:19:05
Speaker
That's true. oh this has been a tough round. is I like it. i think I love the questions. No, I like them.
00:19:16
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ah She wants to you know be able to add um be be so be free. I'm stuck. I want adventures. i want adventures She's like, I want to hang out and I want a Chandler. That's yes.
00:19:33
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Ah, for some reason I'm blanking. And then when you say it's like, yeah, they come flooding back. Yeah. ah But yeah, her mom is just, you know, she just wants her life. She does. She feels she's missed out at some point.
00:19:46
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doesnt Yeah. Poor old Mrs. Greenwell. Yeah. This is the first time we see her, isn't it? In this episode. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think we have met. this What's her first name again?
00:19:58
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um i don't know. yeah do we know it? Mrs. Green. Yeah. I thought it started with a J, but I was like, there's no way it's Judy because that's Monica's mom.
00:20:11
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So I don't know. Right. Her first name is Mrs. Just Mrs. Mrs. Doctor and Mrs. Green. and so Yeah. Oddly, that's my parents.
00:20:22
Speaker
So there you go. There you go. yeah he Yeah. Yeah. And oddly, again, my niece, which is very young, was Rachel Green. So... There's that all sorts.
00:20:35
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Yeah. It was all meant to be meant to be. We were, it all has, you know, come together in us doing this podcast, which I love. Um, let's see. Yeah. We start off this week. We're in Ross's apartment with this huge, um, uh, dragonfly on the wall.
00:20:53
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Um, and he's giving Ben back to Carol and Susan. Um, And then they tell them that you know kind of they're going to get married. And, of course, you have to... I had to remember, you know, this was the mid-'90s, so things are a little different, especially in the world of television.
00:21:11
Speaker
So I had to kind of go, all prepare myself for... ah You know, there might be crude humour is not the word, but just stuff that maybe wouldn't be done today. i think I think the wife-and-wife joke is fine. Like, it's fine. Like, it's, eh, you know. yeah Yeah. It's...
00:21:30
Speaker
It's not distasteful, but it's against maybe of the time. It's not, it wouldn't be done now. Right. Right. Well, and it would just be like, yeah, now, right. You know, where back then that would be like, what, but now, yeah, that's yeah exactly what it would be like.
00:21:49
Speaker
Right. It's a, yeah, would be, I don't think I meant to Google this. I feel like I've looked this up before. But you know the marriage wouldn't be legally recognized at that time.
00:22:00
Speaker
I don't yeah think it was. I think it was like a good 10 years later before it became legal in the state of New York, I think. So it's much more just ceremonial than legal, which doesn doesn't really matter. Of course, it was just an interesting bit of information.
00:22:20
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Ross has taken it kind of hard, um which, again, is kind of I think Ross just never really got over Carol um or isn't at this point. I think it's much more to do with that.
00:22:35
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So New York legalized same sex marriage in 2011. Oh, it was later than I thought. So that's 20, almost 20 years after this episode.
00:22:49
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Yeah. So it, it was just a different time. And, um, Anyway, whenever we get to the scene where Monica and and Ross are talking, we'll talk a little bit more about that.
00:23:02
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But, um ah yeah, I don't know. hit
00:23:08
Speaker
Thinking about the fact that he was still in love with Carol. Right. think the thing. For a long time. And even though he's dated Rachel and he's all of this, there's a part of him that I think will always...
00:23:23
Speaker
love Carol but I think that that this episode really solidified that change in their relationship that exactly one one of my notes for later on I just scribbled down was I think he loves her just as much as he always has just the type of love or something has changed yes you know the what we see at the end of this episode the love doesn't go away it's just he's had to sort of say goodbye in one sense but he still loves her as he always did Right.
00:23:54
Speaker
Well, and then in the scene where they're eating and Susan leaves and then Carol's sad and they kiss, you know, she kisses him like goodbye. Right. And that was her closure to him. But like, I think this episode is whenever he actually, you know, moves on to where Carol's been in their relationship.
00:24:21
Speaker
For a while now. Surely you've seen the film, the 20-year-old film, Love Actually. Yes. yeah kind of I don't know why, because they're different scenes, but yeah the actor's name has gone out my head. He plays Rick in The Walking Dead, the English fella.
00:24:38
Speaker
um The sort of famous scene where he goes with the big signs, and then she kind of kisses him goodbye, and then he just goes, enough now. And he's able to close that door. It kind of remains ross kind of it reminds me of that.
00:24:52
Speaker
We won't spoil it, but when he does a really nice thing for Carol a little later on, and though I feel like that's his enough now moment. He'll always love her, but it's just different.
00:25:05
Speaker
Yeah. oh yeah Okay. That's a good... that's a good Good movie. and I love that. It's not Kate's favorite.
00:25:16
Speaker
you can Yeah, it's not her favorite. um But there's a few movies like that. that like Serendipity is another one. It drives her crazy. Yeah, I love that one. I love that movie.
00:25:30
Speaker
She has always, oh, I think she's chiming her opinion in from the other room. She has the opinion, and and logically she's correct, just give the guy your number.
00:25:42
Speaker
I feel like we have talked about this before. Okay. Because Joseph is of that mindset as well. Okay. Like, who does that that? This movie is so dumb.
00:25:54
Speaker
He was not a huge fan of Love Actually. He's like, a lot of this is just dumb. And I'm... Yeah, they i think I think Kate would agree with Joseph on both counts. um Serendipity is definitely the the the worst of the two.
00:26:11
Speaker
And maybe that's kind of, I don't know, people talk about left brain, right brain, all of that stuff. You know, I don't mind the illogical stuff. I don't mind being taken on the journey.
00:26:22
Speaker
ah Yeah. yeah Oh, she just, Kate just walked in and her eyebrows are raised. She has things to say. Kate, come here. Talk in the microphone. Share your thoughts to the class. I want you to come and share your thoughts with the class.
00:26:38
Speaker
Kate has wondered if you and Joseph have the exact same feelings on both movies. I think it's ridiculous. I think that she's just leading it up to chance, and that's dumb.
00:26:50
Speaker
She should, know. How did you feel about love, actually? It's okay. It's okay. It's not It's not what? P.S. I Love You. it's Now, P.S. I Love You. We're on the same page with that movie. That's a great movie. Gerard Butler and what's her name?
00:27:06
Speaker
ah ah Yes. That one. The one that's hot or not in the office. or not, yes. yeah um I can't remember her name. Do you know her name, Diem? I've not seen that movie. so Oh. if you like romantic comedies, say it's a romantic comedy.
00:27:25
Speaker
It's not fully based around the romance. You just have to watch it. It's got a different twist on of romantic comedy. and What is her name? A super famous actress. There was a scene in The Office where they were discussing if she was hot or not.
00:27:40
Speaker
oh jennifer Jennifer Gardner? Jennifer Gardner. I think that's it. um Anyway, that's a great movie. No, not Jennifer Gardner.
00:27:52
Speaker
no it's ah No, it's the next karate kick, Hilary Swank. Hilary Swank, you're exactly right. Oh, and coming full circle, Lisa Kudrow's in it. Yes, she is, and Kathy Bates.
00:28:06
Speaker
Yeah, oh, Kathy, man. So Lisa Kudrow plays a more minor character, but she's in it enough, and is superb. Kathy Bates, man, she i we will pull your heartstrings. like she It's just phenomenal.
00:28:19
Speaker
Harry Connick Jr. plays a decent role in it. um again just I think of him as a musician. He was an incredible actor in this. Yeah. He is a very talented man. He sure Evidently. Because he plays ah a quirky character with some kind of behavior, just slight behavioral qualities, takes, don't know what you'd call it.
00:28:44
Speaker
And he does it mad. He just does it so well. um Yeah, put that to the top of your list. That's a great movie. Gerard Butler's hilarious. Okay. All right. Noted.
00:28:57
Speaker
Lisa Kudrow. And we could come full circle to the joke if I could think about this correctly. Because she is she does row. And there's the ah there's this joke about the Friends cast.
00:29:08
Speaker
Stupid joke that's like, you know, who would you want in a boat? Which character from Friends? And you want Phoebe because Lisa Kudrow like could row the boat, something like that. But she knows a this movie, something like that. I've forgotten what the joke is.
00:29:23
Speaker
But she is super, super good. And P.S. I love you. Okay. so That's so fun. Yeah, highly recommended that one. And I think that concludes this edition of Movie Talk yeah on the Purple Drone Podcast as we dive into, I've completely forgotten. I think we just talked about, yeah, Ross's apartment.
00:29:46
Speaker
Carol and Susan, they're going to get married. um And we're back over in the, we're over in the girls' apartment for the first time. Let's see, Joey Ross Chandler. Yep. And they're watching Days of Our our Lives.
00:29:57
Speaker
That's right. And Joey, this is his television debut, right? This the first time. Yes. And they're they're talking, they're waiting, and Monica hangs up. Yes, yes, but yes! got him in the car accident, or the biking accident. sorry.
00:30:16
Speaker
as Yeah. yeah and I quite like the way I don't remember exactly what she says, but she's like, yes, yes, you're okay with this, right? Like kind of quickly to Ross. Like he's not going to have a a choice, but to say no he's fine. No, not at all.
00:30:30
Speaker
Yeah. um And this is a kind of when Chandler comes with this bitterest man in the living room. I just love it. I love that I now know where it came from.
00:30:43
Speaker
Yes. ah like Because it's so funny and clever. And I got it. And so it did not even occur to me that people would not have recognized that.
00:30:55
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Right. out ah I don't know. I'm assuming um me and Joseph are very much in the minority. Yeah. don't know. I'd like to know if Kate n would know. I will ask Kate. to Maybe we'll put this out on social. And again, anyone who's outside of the United States probably wouldn't know.
00:31:14
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But most people who are in the United States have, you know, Mr. Rogers is a a staple of, what, 80s and 90s television? oh Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:25
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Yeah. And he was, yeah, just a good moral character. Well, we like that. um Yeah, Ross is having a tough time with him getting married, like doesn't see why they should should get married. But Monica is very much on their side.
00:31:42
Speaker
you know, celebrate, declare their love. um Oh, and Joey has talked about smell the fart acting. We forgot about that. You know, it's just so well done Yes.
00:31:55
Speaker
a yes And then he does it right there in that scene. In that scene before he says whatever disease or you condition this person has. Subcranial hematoma. Yeah, that well of course, of course it was.
00:32:10
Speaker
right before he ends up basically asking this this woman out. um yeah True Joey fashion. oh I do love that we see Joey's personality in Dr. Drake Ramore immediately.
00:32:26
Speaker
It's just yes so well done. um But yeah, Ross, I think after that is when Ross is like, i don't see why they should get married. They already live together. But Monica sticks up for them, which I like.
00:32:39
Speaker
Yes. Well, and okay. And that's the part where I was talking about where he's like, you know, I don't know why they would want to do that. They're living together. What's the point? And she talks about how, you know, well, they love each other and they want to celebrate with all the people that I don't remember exactly what her line was, right but it was, you know, not, Oh, they want to make it legal. Oh, they want to, you know, where,
00:33:06
Speaker
Now that ah thinking too, at the end, whenever they're talking about people who got married, like Phoebe's been married, but she got married to help her friend out legally.
00:33:20
Speaker
Right. You know? And so it I don't know. I think that, don't, I'm, I don't know. I'm kind of going off and my thought is not fully, uh,
00:33:33
Speaker
you know, cooked yet. Well, I think it's interesting. I think it, I think the only reason Ross doesn't like it is because it's Carol. Cause even though he's only been married once at this point, we know he loves, he loves love, you know, he loves marriage. He loves all of that stuff. So I think it has to just be, and he, and he's not, you know, bigoted in any way that we, you know, we, we know that I think it's not that it's two women. I think it's purely this is just Carol.
00:34:03
Speaker
yeah is the issue. um We stay in the girls' apartment for the next scene. I cannot figure this out. I was trying to work out the time frame of this episode in my in my head.
00:34:17
Speaker
I don't know if like Chandler, Joey, and Ross came home at lunchtime to watch Days of Our Lives because that's a daytime soap. Because in this scene, they're going to work. So wondering if they came home from work to watch it together at lunchtime.
00:34:30
Speaker
Maybe so. And that's why Rachel came in late. Right. That's yeah true. That totally makes sense. Yeah. Because Rachel would, I mean, Monica would have been home because she's unemployed right now.
00:34:45
Speaker
Right. Yeah. And Chandler was dressed for work. Yes. So. Yeah. That was just just just a hunch. as i I like to try and look at these time frames because Some episodes take place in 30 minutes, like almost in real time.
00:35:02
Speaker
Other ones, it's over the course of a couple of weeks. So I wasn't sure about this one. But Phoebe comes in with some so pretty sad news. and Yeah.
00:35:13
Speaker
Poor old Mrs. Edelman. Is that who we're saying? I think it was Edelman. She's tied on the table. Chandler reaches for a joke straight away. with i think he says, you know, that's a little more relaxed than you want them to be.
00:35:27
Speaker
or something like that. Right. Oh, you know what? and That does follow that timeline because as soon as his scene is over, Ross and Chandler are both walking out.
00:35:41
Speaker
Remember? Like they're leaving. Right. And Chandler says he's got to go and see about a giant. diet That's right. Inspect a giant dinosaur bone. Oh, no, that's you. No, no, that's Yes.
00:35:55
Speaker
Yeah. That's right. Yes. so I bet you're right. That's so nice. We're good friends. Yes. love that. Yeah. Came home just to celebrate Joey. That's awesome. Yeah.
00:36:06
Speaker
Good on them. But Phoebe thinks that Mrs. Edelman's spirit didn't go very far. And it's ah yeah it is it's lingering around. it She wants to see everything.
00:36:20
Speaker
Yes. Yes. Yes. With her honk. With the onk here, that's kind of fantastic. With the onk for internal life. Yeah. Yeah. Good.
00:36:31
Speaker
but Let's see. um Central Park, mon we go over there. Monica's working on the wedding menu. I think she's going between... and duck. Lamb, that's right.
00:36:42
Speaker
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, and this could be way in the future, or I could be making this up. Isn't... Yeah, Susan is a vegetarian. Yes.
00:36:55
Speaker
Because doesn't Ross bring a lasagna? I can't remember when this is in the series. Yes. and We've actually already had it. It was in the 12 dozen lasagnas. And she says for, um because she's taking, or Ross is going to take over a lasagna to Susan and whatever. That's right. thank you Carol. Carol.
00:37:18
Speaker
And Monica says, you know, but isn't Susan vegetarian? Or these aren't vegetarian. And he's like, I know. and That's right. Now, of course, just because she's vegetarian doesn't mean, I mean, she of course, there'll be plenty of other things to eat.
00:37:33
Speaker
um But it was just something that stood out to me. Yeah, that that is an excellent catch. Because, yeah I didn't even think about that. Yeah, she's that.
00:37:45
Speaker
Yeah, Rachel's very nervous. That's right. is obviously the first time her mother's coming to visit. um So she's naturally nervous. I think that's completely understandable, especially given that the the life she gave up.
00:38:00
Speaker
You know, the the yeah wait your white picket fence life she gave up. um Let's see, Mrs. Alderman is still alive. She's still in Phoebe. Phoebe pops off with a couple of you know funny uh i can't remember what one line is i think there's one about sitting up straight but that might be later yeah is that one there that's what she says to chandler yeah yeah she's still got some things to do and sit up that's right yeah yeah she play febe plays this well um but rachel's bum comes in she's very proud
00:38:37
Speaker
Very excited. I think she's a little condescending, but not like in a mean way. I think that's just maybe, again, the lifestyle she has lived her whole life. Kind of, you know, I think when she says things like, well, who would get coffee if you didn't pour it?
00:38:54
Speaker
Sounds condescending, but something in there tells me she doesn't mean it that way. No, I think she's being very honest whenever she says that. Yeah, I think so too. I think If somebody else had said it, it could have been negative. I think it's a positive.
00:39:10
Speaker
Yeah, and I think she's romanticizing ah Rachel's life a lot. Very much so. This is young, free, and single in the city and all of that.
00:39:22
Speaker
um Maybe not as glamorous as it appears to be. Perhaps. Yes, I think. But the two of them are up in Rachel's and Monica's apartment. She sees ugly naked guy playing the cello.
00:39:36
Speaker
um An impressive nude man. That's right. It's a very ah very the posh way of saying it. um And that's where she kind of hints that she she wants Rachel's life and is considering leaving her dead.
00:39:51
Speaker
Which very much takes takes Rachel by surprise. Yeah, and then Monica busts in and we got it a joke.
00:40:03
Speaker
Yeah, I kind of felt that that joke was a little low-hanging fruit, a little easy. ah you know Yeah, yeah.
00:40:14
Speaker
Yes, we get it. shit Chicken breast, lesbian wedding, we get it. you know Yes. Well, and she's like, is this too cute? And it's like, hmm. It's kind of crass. really.
00:40:25
Speaker
And to me, it was it seemed a little out of character to Monica. you know But Monica has said quite a few. She's off right now. Right, right. you know and stress does not do her any favors at all.
00:40:43
Speaker
No, she's a character who likes organization. I'm sure she likes being employed. um all of these things. Yeah. Yeah, she's struggling. So I guess it does track trek that she's struggling, so it's a little different yeah different in her character.
00:41:02
Speaker
But Rachel, yeah, she's very taken back by this divorce talk and is talking at Central Park and Mrs. Alderman says, well, divorce wasn't an option in my day. ah So it's it's fed. Oh, and you know, on that note, should we shout out that going a different direction after I say divorce, your parents' 50th wedding anniversary.
00:41:22
Speaker
That is absolutely true. Yes. On August 22nd. Oh, its just yeah yesterday yesterday. Yesterday. Okay, I saw that on Facebook. Congratulations to them. 50 years. A huge achievement.
00:41:40
Speaker
That's fantastic. So a big shout out to them. Yeah. And Mr. Alderman comes in. I quite like this guy. I quite like the character, Mr. Alderman.
00:41:53
Speaker
There's something about his voice that quite like. There's something about just his short stature, but he's got a kind of fun demeanor to his, what did you call it? not a cro A cravat? What's he around? Ascot.
00:42:05
Speaker
Ascot around his neck. I just, I just like this guy. I think he's a, I think he's funny, but probably full of wisdom. Um, Well, he is funny with the line he throws out to Phoebe kind of towards the end of this scene.
00:42:20
Speaker
um Yeah, she's he says that she always said that she wanted to see everything. It's a lot of stuff. And then the very funny joke about wanting to sleep with him one more time.
00:42:35
Speaker
yeah Again, it's crass, but there's something about the him and then the way he kind of shrugs at Joey. I just. like i Yeah. I don't know. See, and like, what is that? Because that joke, it it landed with him. Right.
00:42:51
Speaker
For me, it landed. I don't know why, but it does. But for anyone else, again, it's a bit of an easy joke. I think it's because it's so ridiculous. and and and two And also the way, what does he say? i took a shot or got try or something towards Joey.
00:43:07
Speaker
Right. You know? Right. Yeah. Like he acknowledges that he's not being creepy. I mean, it's kind of creepy, but you he knows he's being ridiculous. Right. And that's that's exactly it. yet He knows he's ridiculous.
00:43:21
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, for some reason, yeah, that one lands. um ah i want to go and look and see this man, that man.
00:43:33
Speaker
he has quite the list of things that he has made appearances in and been in and all kinds of stuff like he was even in ghost he was one really yeah he was a emergency room ghost ah goodness i've not seen that film since it came out like i remember seeing it and then Yeah. Interesting. But he's been in so many things. Like, it is crazy. From, like, the starting in the 50s.
00:44:05
Speaker
Man, I love that. Good for him. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, 49. I'm so sorry. He started in 49. He passed.
00:44:16
Speaker
Oh, and my dad also just had his birthday on August 16th. Hey, well, happy birthday and happy anniversary to Mr. Yeah. Yeah. um But this this actor, Leeds, was it Phil Leeds?
00:44:36
Speaker
But he died 1998. Yeah, Phil Leeds. Right, Phil Leeds. On August 16th, 1998. Well, he left a ah very happy mark in our hearts. And I love the fact that over 25 years later, we're still talking about him.
00:44:52
Speaker
so Right. Right. good is yeah A good life's work, it seems. Good for him. Yeah. um But rachel Rachel and her mum start arguing after she talks about sex and pot.
00:45:06
Speaker
Like, just so uncomfortable for Rachel, I feel. Like... ah Yeah. Put her in a really difficult position aside from the fact that they dropped this marital bombshell on her.
00:45:19
Speaker
Yeah. Then when she starts talking about all this other stuff that just, I got some sympathy for Rachel here. Yeah. and But that's where she offers her the marshmallow treats.
00:45:31
Speaker
get Right. Because Rachel's freaking out. Yeah. I've got, I mean, even though we've talked about that, I've got a feeling that that might have been cut. Oh, okay. It's just not ringing a bell with me now, but I'll need to, I'll need to again, check that one.
00:45:47
Speaker
I bet you're right because ah there wasn't anything significant. Um, because the mom's walking and she's like, you know, don't be mad at me.
00:45:58
Speaker
Don't be mad at me. Right. like Would you like some of the marshmallow tree? And it, I can call Carmelo and find out how to make them. And, uh,
00:46:09
Speaker
Yeah, I think that was cut and unless I'm just completely off the mark. She was talking about, you know, how like whatever you drive and then um you can't remember how you got where you are And because it's just so, you know, boring or whatever. Right.
00:46:28
Speaker
Rachel told her she needs to listen to the radio more. And it was between those two lines. Okay. She's offering the marshmallow treats.
00:46:39
Speaker
And then she's like, I just, I see you and I keep thinking, I want adventures. I want to hang out. I want a Chandler. Yeah, that's not that's not in it.
00:46:50
Speaker
I wonder, okay, did you get this scene at all? Because also made the comment about, I'd be doing what you're doing but with money because that was the funniest line in that whole scene.
00:47:04
Speaker
yeah I bet you don't have that scene. I don't have that scene. Because was like, How did you not think that line was funny? Like that should have stood out to you. That all in exchange and all of that.
00:47:17
Speaker
Yeah, that one, that, yeah, we have the point where she says like, yeah, what's new with sex? And, ah you know, does anyone have any marijuana? Yeah. But it ends pretty quickly after that. It doesn't.
00:47:28
Speaker
And so here's the deal. Like that happened even before that. both Okay. Before we ran into the, um, Mr. The Rose's husband. Oh, okay. Yeah, so that it's it was cut.
00:47:43
Speaker
Okay. Well, there you go. So yeah anyway, so then you really, i was talking about, you know, how hard Rachel was taking it and all of that, but they cut that out. So it wasn't as shocking.
00:48:01
Speaker
Well, it makes me feel a little better. don't really know that Rachel spiraling like she did. No, we didn't see her spiraling. We just started. Yeah, it makes me feel a bit better about Bamboozled.
00:48:12
Speaker
Must say. Okay, yeah. That's excellent. Okay, well, there you go. You didn't have that scene. All right, that's good to know, though. um Let's see. Yeah, because they they argue about the... or Not argue, but Rachel is frustrated.
00:48:27
Speaker
um We're still in the apartment. Everyone's helping Cook except for Ross. He is refusing to help. He doesn't want any part of it. um He's sitting on the couch, and I think this is where Yeah, Carol comes over.
00:48:41
Speaker
um And kind it did get me thinking when she came over. Like, I wonder how much... Now, Rachel wouldn't have known Carol because in the pilot, Carol and Ross have split up and Rachel gets introduced.
00:48:55
Speaker
But I wonder how much... If if the gang kind hung out for a while, a year, or two years, who knows? You know, with Monica, Ross, Chandler, Joey... Phoebe and Carol, like if she was one of the six or if they really weren't that close prior to the pilot.
00:49:12
Speaker
Yeah. You know, again, just timeframe stuff. I just curious how well they know her. ah Well, and yeah, that's interesting because in my head, the six wasn't like they weren't super close.
00:49:27
Speaker
Like they are. As we're watching them. Right. I'm sure you're right. Like Carol and and Rachel swapped places or anything like that.
00:49:38
Speaker
Right. But I kind of got the point or the idea that probably whenever they were in college, Ross started dating Carol and Chandler was his roommate. But so Chandler saw that, but Ross kind of went off with Carol.
00:49:58
Speaker
And then maybe they got divorced, and so that's why that friendship even rekindled like it did. Right. so Yeah, that's right. And then we know that Chandler knew that Ross bought Carol that, was that Crystal Duck?
00:50:14
Speaker
Yes. When he was courting her, will said you know, when he was in love with her. Interesting. and Maybe somebody has looked for little clues and hints about the pre-pilot timeline.
00:50:26
Speaker
but so yeah Because Joey became Chandler's roommate like through an ad, right? Right, because Kip was a Kip. Yeah, his roommate had moved out.
00:50:37
Speaker
Right. And so, like, the six of them, i think it just so happened, Stance, the way that it all happened. I'll play that. I agree. Yeah.
00:50:49
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, and of course they're hanging out in a, it was in a bar previously, it wasn't it Ricks or Riffs or something. Yeah. Yeah. somebody but Somebody will have done their homework, but I agree with what you're saying. I think you're definitely right.
00:51:02
Speaker
But Carol comes over, she's upset. Susan basically said that maybe they shouldn't get married or, you know, Carol wanted to postpone the wedding or or something because her parents wouldn't be there.
00:51:14
Speaker
um you know big fight. And this is Ross's shining moment, I think. I think he's yeah for for all the justified irritation that Ross provides both of us, this is a good moment because he is siding with Susan on this one. And and he does the right thing.
00:51:32
Speaker
And in these big life parts, him and Susan do see eye to eye. Right. you know Because I think that they both love Carol.
00:51:45
Speaker
Yes. Yeah, it's a weird thing, isn't it? Because he's the mastermind manipulator. That's right. Right. Right. Didn't like her at the beginning. Yeah.
00:51:56
Speaker
Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, Ross sticks up for for the two of them. He's not just sticking up for Susan. He's sticking up for their relationship, which I think is is it as is a big step.
00:52:09
Speaker
Like, you know, push comes to shove. Like you said, he does do the right thing in the big decisions, even though he moans and complains about like the wedding. He's going to do the right thing, um which we see in the very next scene because we're at the wedding.
00:52:25
Speaker
um Now, I've got to tell you, I couldn't remember. ah what Sorry, when I looked up. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. Let's back up to that scene real Yes.
00:52:37
Speaker
And you know how I was talking about Monica being a little unhinged and she's kind of unraveling right before my eyes. Yes.
00:52:49
Speaker
You saw the line, right? They didn't cut that out. Whenever she comes in and she says the wedding's off and Monica says, you're still going to pay me, still getting paid. Yes. Yes. I saw that. And then it was like, she heard what came out of her mouth and she goes,
00:53:07
Speaker
or something a little less selfish. Yes. ah Great line. Okay. I just wanted to make sure, but yeah. Okay. So yes. No, no. Yeah. Cause again, Monica, a little unhinged, she's little unstable right now. So that's an understandable reaction, but I'm glad she caught herself and corrected herself straight to away with a coming across as insensitive.
00:53:31
Speaker
Um, But ah when, so we'll kind of talk about this now, if that's all right. So I reached out to Candace Gingrich, who was the officiant of the wedding.
00:53:45
Speaker
um The story is, I'm going to get this a little bit wrong, but for listeners who don't know, her brother is quite the famous politician, Newt Gingrich. He was certainly a big player in politics, in right-wing Republican politics in the into the 2000s.
00:54:01
Speaker
And he was quite adamantly against same-sex marriage and had spoken out against it. His sister, I'm not sure how much acting she had done, was deliberately chosen to perform the wedding ceremony ah to kind of, what's the nice way of saying, basically putting a middle finger up to her brother and the people who were against people just loving each other.
00:54:26
Speaker
Um, so a controversial choice at the time, a fantastic choice at the time. Um, so I reached out to her on Instagram and I didn't hear back for a couple of weeks, which is fine because you don't know who actually is active on Instagram and your message might go into like another folder cause she doesn't follow me. But I got a lovely message back last Sunday. She assumed that she had missed the recording.
00:54:52
Speaker
But she says she really doesn't use Instagram, but she like she addressed me by name. It was super apologetic. It was super sweet. um And so even though she's not going to we're not going to be able to interview her for this episode, maybe we will in the future, um I sent her a message back that she hasn't read. But it was a lovely personal apology for not getting back to us sooner, wishes she could have talked.
00:55:18
Speaker
So maybe there will be a possibility in the future, but want to just give a huge shout out to Candice Gingrich who took the time to write back and you know maybe she will end up on the podcast at some point. So good for her and good for her for being involved in this scene.
00:55:34
Speaker
um now when i go for us and good for good for us reaching out making those connections i'm just going to reach out to to everybody and anybody and just see what happens because um i love this podcast i love what we're doing and if we can talk to somebody who's involved in the show that's just great for everybody so yeah we're going to keep on fishing we're going to keep on seeing who's out there but especially Even if it's after this, i yeah I'm sure you would too, Deanne, record a special episode because of how important this this is in in a social movement sense.
00:56:12
Speaker
absolutely Absolutely. I'd love to get her insight on it. So we'll see. We'll see if she messages back. um But when I looked up her name weeks ago, the discussion about this episode and this scene in particular seems to focus around Susan and Carol's dresses and hats.
00:56:32
Speaker
Now, I've got to be honest. As a guy, I didn't really pay much attention. Oh. Kate kate called out immediately. She was like, what's with the hat? Oh, And then yeah I was kind of like, yeah, it's really odd.
00:56:43
Speaker
Why was Susan wearing the ugly coat on top of her dress that actually looked nice that you saw later? That was so wild to me. Oh, yeah, no. I was all over that.
00:56:55
Speaker
and but Yeah. I mean, to be fair, i mean, that's... wedding dresses and wedding attire and all of that. Heck yeah. Like that was and an interesting color that they chose to wear. I think that was what got me when I didn't think about it at the time.
00:57:14
Speaker
Then, like I said, you Google this episode, that's what people are talking about And I've been to two, two lesbian weddings. One, the couple both wore kind like pants in a shirt.
00:57:25
Speaker
And the other one, um think if they both wore a dress but one was definitely um but a traditional white dress i think they both did but this was like somewhere in the middle to me you know and i was like yeah that's right it's a very very old-fashioned dresses to me the hats were very interesting and i haven't googled it anymore to see if there's a reason but yeah quite the quite the subject on the old interwebs is uh these dresses and the hats in particular um So an interesting choice.
00:57:58
Speaker
um I do like Ben and his little carriage you know going down. thought that was quite quite cute down the aisle. um But yeah, we see, so Carol, ah no, Susan coming out with her parents, and then Ross and Carol coming down the aisle.
00:58:21
Speaker
Good old Ross. you know Boo for Carol's parents, pair of jerks. Right. you know but well Yeah. Yeah. and So and that's so um ah sorry.
00:58:34
Speaker
Scooching back to the clothes. Like my notes. I'm like Susan in a suit dress thing. Dad is in military and mom is in the blue dress overcoat. What's with all the hats?
00:58:46
Speaker
Susan in a long dress and hats. And then Ross is in the brown suit with the blue shirt poking out everywhere. ah Right. it's So like, yeah, that was interesting. even Joey's jacket, Kate knows it's like his jacket's too for him.
00:59:03
Speaker
Right. It was a terrible jacket. It was very ill-fitting. Yeah. Yeah, there's a stuff going on. It wasn't like they just randomly decided next Saturday we're going to get married.
00:59:16
Speaker
Right. You know people had time. Right. And to me, Joey's a guy who probably has nice clothes. He goes on a lot of dates. and like I just imagine he has some nice clothes. I didn't get his jacket at all either.
00:59:28
Speaker
No. and He could have borrowed a nice jacket from Chandler. We know he has plenty of suits. Exactly. like and That is terrible. Terrible. Yeah, it doesn't do any of them justice.
00:59:41
Speaker
um But Phoebe's outfit is so cute. Indeed. The dress. polka dots and her hair looks good yeah yeah and uh i do i i do love phoebe in the you know from here till the end of the episode um because again the line itself oh now i've seen everything you know two women getting married in a different situation could be a little crass but of course it plays really well here because then mrs edelman
01:00:13
Speaker
Is yeah she off to after the next life for her? she's dying She's gone. She's seen it all. um So it it play it plays really well into that story.
01:00:24
Speaker
um I do love the way, I think it's it's still the wedding at the reception where this, she's telling she telling Chandler, who's she telling that Mrs. Edelman has gone, Rose has gone.
01:00:35
Speaker
Oh, there's more. Wait, wait. Well, you were about to talk about our friend's wine and her opening for the wedding. Of course, of course, of course, yes. I'm sorry. i'm oh No, no, no, as i am too. I just sco skipped over pretty much the most important part of this episode.
01:00:53
Speaker
The vows with Candice Gingrich gives. Again, it's simple. It's to the point. yeah But it's also...
01:01:05
Speaker
I like it because it's edgy enough. Like, I think she says, don't want to misquote her, but, you know, nothing makes God happier than two people, any two people coming together in love.
01:01:17
Speaker
Which, at the time, could have been seen as controversial. I love that they went for it. You know, I think that's just a marvellous, wonderful thing. And they didn't they didn't kind of...
01:01:29
Speaker
like just talk about the wedding or or water it down like they they went for it, which I just think is just awesome. It makes me so happy that they, you know, there's there's a ah bravery aspect, I think, from the network even to do that because we'll talk about this in a minute, but they prepared for some backlash.
01:01:47
Speaker
Really? yeah Yeah, it gets interesting. And it really, I won't spoil too much, but it really just didn't happen. But this being the first lesbian wedding, I believe, on network television, they were ready for some a bit of uproar.
01:02:01
Speaker
Yeah. But went for it. So good for them. ah But yeah, a beautiful little ah speech by Candice. They had done marvelously well, I think. um is it that Correct me if I'm wrong here. Is it Phoebe talking to Chandler when she says the Rose has left?
01:02:21
Speaker
Yes. Yes. And how she misses Rose. Yes. And she's just alone now. Yes. And then this lady comes up and offers to get her a drink and a naive Phoebe.
01:02:36
Speaker
Yeah. But she says, you know, you need to forget about Rose. That's right. ms jerry Yeah. She's just like, that's so nice. Let's go. Yeah. Good old Phoebe. Kind of naive in a lovely way.
01:02:52
Speaker
Like, I love it. I just always seem seeing the best in people. I love the way that that scene kind of played out. um And then Susan and Ross, again, I feel like they're kind of closing a door on their previous animosity a bit.
01:03:07
Speaker
um Susan really acknowledges that Ross did a good thing um and invites him to dance and says that, again, potentially crashing another situation, but the joke of, you know, you can lead.
01:03:21
Speaker
I find kind of funny. You know, I think it's well, well, well played in this episode. Well, and it was sweet because... Yeah, very sweet. he The first thing that Susan said to him was, how are you doing?
01:03:36
Speaker
Because she knows that Ross loves her. Or loves Carol, you know? Yeah. And then she tells him, you did a good thing. You know? And yes, and then the I'll let you lead like that, yeah. Yeah.
01:03:51
Speaker
it works yeah it does it works really well and it's so nice to see them coming together um because that's always one of my favorites you know whenever they came together for ben and it's like because they come together for the right thing right i mean ben's name happened because of the two of them you know as we talked about in that situation um And let's see, is there anything else in the wedding at the wedding reception that I've skipped over before we move into the final scene at the girls' apartment?
01:04:24
Speaker
Not that I care to discuss, no. I don't think so Oh, you know, I will mention, I did the scribble this in my notes. So, yeah, Candace Gingrich, is she, I believe, is the half-sister of Newt Gingrich, who,
01:04:39
Speaker
He was a former US House of Representatives Speaker of the House. So, me yeah, he was a big shot. mean, I knew that. i knew him, like he's a famous politician, but yeah, like legitimate big shot, conservative of Newt Gingrich.
01:04:56
Speaker
So, again, they were kind of going up against what a love what he stood for, believe. I hope I've got these details right. But yeah, Speaker of the House, it's a ah big, big deal.
01:05:07
Speaker
Yeah, it was. Yeah. Yeah, his name was on the news a lot. Right. During that time. During that time. So, and I will mention so i'll mention this before the final scene.
01:05:18
Speaker
Yeah, NBC hired 200 part-time phone operators to man the phones from that night for the next couple of days because they expected a flood of complaints. They gave them a script.
01:05:32
Speaker
This is what you tell people. We're going to track the numbers. Yeah, 200 people for a couple of days. They ended up getting 11 phone calls.
01:05:43
Speaker
11 complaints. like They thought it was going to be a much bigger deal than it was. And thankfully, people loved it. People accepted it. And it's, you know, remained a pivotal episode in the whole series.
01:05:58
Speaker
Wow. Yeah. Only 11 phone calls after hiring 200 people. Well, okay. And I was trying, well, I don't know. That's that's crazy. Yeah.
01:06:12
Speaker
Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, kind of crazy thing. We do end up finishing off in the girl's apartment but discussing initially who's going to be the first one or the next one to get married.
01:06:23
Speaker
um And then I do love the way that it gets just, it's not really foreshadowing. I think we just know that Chandler's a bit of a train wreck. um The Allfield Chandler would be the last one to get married.
01:06:37
Speaker
Yeah. even Even with Ben in the discussion. i do love that bit.
01:06:43
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. You kind of mentioned, yeah, of course he's included, but still you, it's still Chandler. Yeah, I, exactly. Well, okay. And if you think about that, well, and it's not because at the end of the series, there's only, well, except for Rachel, but you know, she did have a wedding.
01:07:09
Speaker
Right. Right. and but at the end of the series the only one who's never been married is joey yeah and rachel gets married in vegas um ah oh that's right so she does get married yeah she she does because they they go to get it annulled i i do love skipping ahead to legs at the very end i do love that I'm worried. I remember watching it for the first time that they might try and put Phoebe and Joey together so the six of them would end up becoming three colors. I love that they didn't because Joey, as we talked about, he's always just been the quintessential best friend and he suits that role perfectly. So I'm glad that they didn't.
01:07:51
Speaker
Yeah. So, yeah, I think think it's just it's such such a good episode. um Well, let's see, even though we agree it's a good episode, who stood out for you today? Who would be your Gunther Central Park?
01:08:07
Speaker
Okay, so mine is Lisa Kudrow. Right. And her acting and ah being Rose. And, you know, i last week, was that last week?
01:08:20
Speaker
where David Schwimmer because he was playing Ross and Russ. Yep. all of that. Well, she did the same thing except at the same time. but Right. now She was and going back and forth and she cracked me up.
01:08:39
Speaker
Like it was so good. Yeah. She did a tremendous job. She was a strong second for me. You alluded to last week where we gave it to David Schwimmer, both of us, because of how he played Ross and Russ.
01:08:53
Speaker
So we kind of gave it to the actor. This week, I'm giving it to the character of Ross because of the good thing he did. ra yeah You know, I think he was he was upset at the wedding, but he didn't act like a petulant spoiled brat.
01:09:08
Speaker
Like he has other times. He was more sad. Which, in being sad is fine. Acting like a brat is not. So it was okay to be sad, even though shouldn't be. But, you know, it's okay to.
01:09:19
Speaker
But then he pulls himself together, gives Carol this great advice, sticks up for Susan, sticks up for them, and then walks her down the aisle. I had had to give Ross his dues on this one.
01:09:31
Speaker
Absolutely. Yeah. I so agree. Yeah. So tell you what, we're sitting down at the wedding reception. We're discussing the the the outfits that are being worn by various people.
01:09:44
Speaker
Instead of coffee, we're going to toast. And hat. our How could we forget the hat? We're going to toast the happy couple with how many glasses of champagne this week? Oh, okay. We're going to change it up a bit.
01:09:57
Speaker
I'm doing eight glasses of champagne. and i like it. I am. he Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'll go with also eight glasses of champagne, but I'm going to throw in a little kid-sized cup of some kind of sparkling cider.
01:10:13
Speaker
I'm going to go with eight and a half. All right. All right. love that. I knew I liked it. I'd forgotten how good for me Ross's few lines were. um And again, the more I looked into this, the social stuff at the time, it bumps and nudges it up for me.
01:10:32
Speaker
All right. I love it. We both like it. Now, I'm excited for next week. We'll need to discuss this during the week, I think. I think maybe we'll end up combining them because for me, we've got a two-parter.
01:10:44
Speaker
Yeah. But I believe for you. But not for me. Not for you. So we've run into this, I think, once before with the one with two parts, part one and two um in season one.
01:10:55
Speaker
But maybe we'll combine them because this is all about this is the one after the Super Bowl part one and two. i you know, might just make life a little easier and then we can watch you know watch them all together um and do that, which I'm excited. I don't, I think I know which one this is, but I don't quite, you know, there's several.
01:11:19
Speaker
I have no idea. I have no clue which one this is. Oh, you know I don't know. I'm thinking of Thanksgiving where they play football, the Gallup Cup, which is not this one.
01:11:31
Speaker
um So, you know, yeah, I don't. I don't remember, which is kind of a fun thing, a fun thing to have. Yeah. So it's, I'm looking forward to recording. Let's do that. Why don't we just commit to Let's do both parts at the same time.
01:11:48
Speaker
Well, now we've said it. So that's exactly put out in the universe. So, but we are, yeah, we're right about halfway through season two. It's flying along. Um,
01:11:59
Speaker
Very excited. Very exciting stuff. But any final thoughts before we wrap this up? um No, I don't think so. it's It's awesome.
01:12:11
Speaker
And I'm looking forward to the next one. Awesome. And hope that we hear from Miss Gingrich soon. Yep, I hope so. But again, i thank you to her for taking taking the time to reach back out to us.
01:12:23
Speaker
um Yeah. If we have a chance to talk, we will put out a bonus episode. full death of day Thanks to her and Deanne, our thanks to you and thank you guys all for listening in to the Purple Door podcast.