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Esoteric Insights w/ Al Borealis
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On this episode we have special guest Al Borealis. Al is the host of Forum Borealis, where you will find many great interviews with authors, researchers, scholars and experts on topics such as philosophy, psychology, science, history, politics, and much more.
Al's breadth and depth of knowledge on various esoteric subjects is so impressive that I had to reach out to him and him on the show. I know you'll enjoy this one for sure!
Connect with Al and Forum Borealis:
Website: https://www.forumborealis.net/
Podcast: https://www.forumborealis.net/podcast / https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/forum-borealis/id1459921895
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Al_Pal_Borealis
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Transcript
Introduction with Special Guest Al
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Hi, welcome back to the Connecting Minds podcast. Christian Jordonov here. Thank you for tuning in. Today, I have a special guest on the podcast, Al from forum borealis.net.
Al's Diverse Podcast Topics
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Al is a very intelligent but also very wise man.
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As you will see, we cover a bunch of interesting topics. He has a lot of esoteric knowledge and I highly encourage you to check out Forum Borealis. If you like any of the topics we cover here on Connecting Minds, you're absolutely going to love his show. He delves deeper into a lot of these, including things like history, philosophy, psychology, science, politics.
00:00:42
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So really amazing people have graced his podcast, researchers, scholars, freethinkers, authors, and I'll just let the conversation speak for itself. We're definitely going to have Al back on the show soon to cover some more topics in greater depth. Again, he's a treasure trove of knowledge, and this was an absolute pleasure.
Al's Esoteric Journey
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Really lovely guy, and I hope you enjoyed this interview with Al.
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Al, thanks for coming on to Connecting Minds, brother. Happy to be on. With the listeners, can you tell us a little bit about how did you get into the esoteric subjects that you discuss on your podcast Forum Borealis? It happened when I was a teenager and my city in Norway called Bergen in English, Bergen.
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has always been like the occult capital of Norway. So it was just organically because in the circles, I frequented like what's called a liberal arts, like circles of musicians, artists, theatre people,
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Yeah, when I was a student, so I was like, in those kind of circles.
Critique of Materialism and Skepticism
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And there was many, many spiritual people and, you know, into different things. So I think the first group I joined, because I checked out many groups was the Rosicrucians, we talked about this right before we went on. So I think it was actually incidental, but
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I was nonetheless, I mean, that's the sociology of things. You also have the inner seeking. That's what matters, right? That you have a yearning for a more total experience of life than what your trick to believe is the game. And that I've had
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since I was a child, since I became aware, despite my parents being complete agnostics. And I think I prefer that, actually. Let's say there were fundamental Christians. I would then have the problem that so many have, that before I can free my mind and choose openly what's actually appealing to my soul, then I would have to take this traumatic
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confrontation or breakup with, for example, a Satan figure, right? Because everything else, if you don't believe in this sect, it's Satan. These people, people who are in Norway have many Puritan Christians. Most of those people when they grow up, if they are not completely docile, they become skeptics, they become materialists and skeptics. And they completely
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They only change colors. They only change the flag.
The Art of Communication and Influence
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The mechanism, the way of thinking, the sectarianism, the fundamentalism, the black-white thinking, they completely keep and they don't see it. They have this literalism understanding. You said you'd listen to my conversation with Anthony Peake.
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You need metaphor, you need ability to understand by analogy, not just analysis, but also analogy. And these people are just like Islam fundamentalists, Christian fundamentalists, Jewish fundamentalists, all sorts of fundamentalists.
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or they have a very infantile mind. They may have very good developed the intellectual capacity, the capacity to store information, the capacity to plunder, to memorize factoids.
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But their understanding, their comprehension is very limited. And I've been suffering those fools all my life. So my greatest beef when it comes to the battle of or exchange of ideas or our fundamentalist materialists, who, at least in Norway, are all ex- fundamentalist Christians. So
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I found, you see this often, someone is very deep into Christianity when they grow up. The example you gave is, you know, something that, yes, happens quite a lot. And what I've also noticed, at least with one person, but I know it happens a lot, is they go from Christianity to New Age.
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they just go a little bit too crazy into it now we're suddenly all gonna send it to 5d in the next five years and all our problems are an illusion all of these problems in the physical plane don't exist and what kind of what how do you if you let's say you met someone and like i know i know in
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Was it in the Bible? I think Jesus is said to have said, do not cast your pearls before the swine because they'll just trample them or whatever. And do not make a bed of roses for donkeys. So I guess the older I get, the more I
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hold my tongue and pick my battles. But there are certain people that I meet that I like that I sometimes I feel like maybe they're a little bit on the wrong track, but with a little bit of, you know, a friendly sort of sentence that it could plant a seed that could maybe help them veer onto what at least I believe is the right track, which is definitely not materialism. So if you find someone like an atheist materialist that you like,
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And how would you approach the, the, let's call it the problem of helping that person, you know, go beyond just the material and there is no God and oh, when I die, that's it. And, you know, I'm, I am a speck of dust in an infinite universe because of a big bang that we, you know, is just as much of a theory as anything else. Yeah. That is a very, very clever question. Very good question.
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Let me first say, those who become New Agers, who are ex-Christians,
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I mean, how Christian, where are they? I mean, maybe it's just the tradition, the family, but they tend to be more on the emotional polarist side. If they're more intellectually polarized, they usually become skeptics. That's like a trend, a pattern I've seen. So it's true, some go for the new age, some go for the... Because that's what they're presented,
Paths to Enlightenment
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that's what they think their options are.
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So maybe go even deeper into a committed path, which I believe in, a tradition. If you're really going to get somewhere, you can't just dance around a mountain, sniff some flowers here and then go back and then sniff some else further along. You have to commit to a path if you want to reach the top of the mountain. Of course, there's a million paths, right? It's a big mountain. So find the path that
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you like. If you're in a hurry, if you don't mind heights, the mesompo, if you like, take it slow and take many breaks on the way, there's probably a path for that. And the higher you get in the mountain, the more these differences dwindle away, and eventually it's just four ways.
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northeast, southwest, before you're at the top. So the higher up you go, the more the differences are biggest at the bottom, the higher up you go, the more similarities. But I haven't even touched your question yet. So so that's that. I love that analogy. Sorry, just say I love that analogy. I have to remember that. It's an arch type floating. Had a book he wrote called Return to the One.
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which kind of goes deeper into those ideas that I laid out there. But you know, I used to believe that you can convince people. That's the first error. That's the Judeo-Christian Islamic culture, where they believe that if you can just convert people, you have to
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force your ideas on them. It does not work. Then you can say, yeah, but how come Christianity and Islam are the biggest religions? The Jews do not practice that, actually. They say, we don't want any members. They do. Very clever. That's how you get members. That's how you get members. Groucho Marx says, I don't want to belong to a club that loves me.
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He demonstrated this principle. I'll tell you a story about girlyaf, but I'll first go come to the point. If you think about it, neither Islam nor Christianity spread by conversion. They spread by force. They use this word. So when you have a few generations, people have no choice. Eventually,
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Bam, you have it, right? So, no, it doesn't really work. For example, desperate people, etc. Poor people, people who join for other reasons than their ideas, who would have joined anything that's around them. But if you're talking like particularities and
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I experience that the best way is to, actually again, it's not that much about ideas, it's about culture. If you are in a milieu, in circles that
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have also agnostics and atheists in them, because nobody belongs to just one circle, right? We have many, many concentric circles. It may be work, it may be a chess club, whatever. But if the cool people, it's just like when you went to school, if the cool people are into something, those that they respect, then they are open to it. And as soon as someone is open,
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And that's a prerequisite. They have to be open. Most people are emotionally closed or whatever. There are many mechanisms to close. But as soon as they're open, the best and most effective way to influence someone, if that's their agenda, is by the example.
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is by it's not by convincing them and pushing them. Actually, the more you show humility and self criticism and carefulness, the more they respect and if you also talk, you know, the old saying when in Rome, do as the Romans, very important. So when I talk with I used to be a meditation coach. And my meditation classes were the only one in this country that had all seven
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forms of meditation. I'm not talking about seven techniques. I'm talking about the types of meditation. And I, and it was like completely detached from religion. There was some philosophy that but you could, it was paradigm neutral. So I got anostics, I got some atheists even, and I talked the language.
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And I was extra careful with my claims. I tried to root it in its scientific terminology. Because the fact is, Christian, that you can communicate almost anything in many different ways. You know, most truths are very simple. So if you talk with someone about, let's say, why they need a water filter in their tap,
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You can appeal emotionally. You can use emotional language. You can appeal in terms of science, scientifically. You can use scientific arguments. You can appeal in terms of fear of health, of sickness, and stuff like that. You can talk culturally this magically. You can communicate it in a magical paradigm.
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So there's so many ways to communicate ideas. I'm used to these, my shows, and I know you're new to them, but we have many different fields of operation. I used to slogans, philosophy, religion, history, culture, and science. Should have added a few more, also psychology and maybe also health, but
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So I'm used to communicating with different types of people who have different, not just different ideas, because most people don't even have that many different ideas. They just have different ways to express them and impress them. So it's a misunderstanding. It's a language thing more than anything. If we were telepathic, we would be amazed.
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how little differences there really are. But there's the difference of language. That's the biggest problem. So it's a good spiritual exercise. It's a good discipline to practice, to communicate in different ways. So I talk one way with I'm not changing my attitude. I'm not changing my opinions. If these opinions are well versed in conviction, I'm not
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I'm not being fake. I'm just facilitating the communication. That's all I'm doing. I'm just, I'm just changing clothes. It's the same body underneath. So bottom line, the best way I find and as many ways to influence someone and I really want to influence someone because I believe people have to find their own path for the trial and fail and you know, but if I was to, it would be by
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talking their language, it would be by already being okayed, being in, not presenting myself as an enemy. And thirdly, and most importantly, would be to lead by example. Love that man.
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Yeah. Sorry for the long convoluted answer, but it was such a good question. I just needed to... No, no, I love this. I almost don't even have to ask questions. I can just say a word and let you develop whatever comes through. You know, this is what I love about the spot cast. Like I said already, just the amazing people. I had the amazing sort of
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wisdom that we get to and that's why I call the connecting minds because we reconnect their minds and you are literally almost like you know back in the day like I used to read more like about Buddhism and Zen how the master and the student would relay how the master would relay the teachings through the lineage and a lot of a lot of the time it would be like they would just be looking at each other in the eye and
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some somehow something would get conveyed, you know, so it's pretty amazing. Hey, can I comment this? Yeah. If you're if two enlightened people, however, we define
Historical and Modern Perspectives on Intelligence
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it, are sitting on a plane, they come from different tradition, back to the mountain, one came from the north, another from the south. If they're really, if they're really on top of the mountain, they can sit on that plane and they can recognize each other. And they don't even have to utter a word.
00:17:40
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Like you said, it can be a glance. Yeah. And things are communicated. For sure. Do you know Geordieff?
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So I have a book by Ospensky that he was a student of Gurdjieff, but I haven't actually read much into Gurdjieff. Is the book called In Search of the Miraculous? The fourth way. The fourth way. Okay. Well, there's a story there where Gurdjieff demonstrates that principle about missionaries, the psychological rule. It's very short. It goes like this.
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I'm butchering it and it's digest, but he was they were they were making money for the group by different crafts and arts and they were weaving carpets if I remember correctly and
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very detailed craft from Asia. You know, I think you have those in Bulgaria too, and you know, like Persian carpets, for example, and they were doing very specific technique, and it was high quality, high quality material, high quality craft, and they were selling it on the market. And Giorgio wanted to demonstrate a principle for one of the pupils who asked him a question. And he said,
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So, so day one. It was super expensive and what a rich Moscow lady came came to the town square and was examining the carpet and you know she was obviously she was
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considering in her mind if she should really spend all this money for this beautiful thing that she really wanted. And she said she would come back the next day. She had to think about it and check her funds and probably talk with her husband, whatever. OK, she came the next day. And then Gudjev said, she said, I decided to to to percuss it. She said, OK, but today it's free, he said. She was what? No, no money.
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And something is wrong. I mean, so she didn't dare take it when it was free. She said she would go and think about it. She didn't want it anymore. She was probably thinking she was being tricked or there was something wrong with it.
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You know, it reminds me also of this Larry David episode. Do you know the series called Curb Your Enthusiasm? I've watched like snippets of it. It's a guy behind Seinfeld. It was this episode where one of the bills, I don't know if it was, I think it was a $50 bill if that even exists. It had been in the shoe of some guy. So it was like
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invisible leper leprosy but nobody knows but when Larry David tried to pay with it he was like holding it like this I'm showing a movement now where I'm barely
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touching the bill, right? And nobody wanted it. See, this is the principle. So it says this bill is still worth $50 or $100, right? The carpet is still the same carpet. It's all psychology, man. It's all psychology. And this demonstration of Gurdjieff can be immediately converted to the area you wanted to discuss, which is, you know, influence of ideas.
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So little, so little in the world of ideas are actually the ideas being considered themselves. There's so many outer layers blocking these things, influencing these things, like you're friends with someone. Therefore, you are open to this or that. You have goodwill to something or someone. They are for you. You see it in politics. Let's say, let's take a polarized figure like Trump.
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Let's say someone likes some of the policies he says he's in supporting. And then everybody has their own ideas. Nobody is 100% aligned with a politician or a party or a religion or anything. If anybody is a thinking person, they have their own opinions about things. But in real life, we tend to go with those that have the most same as us or the most important as the same as us. So say you're against the war.
00:22:10
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Therefore, when you see the horrible political landscape in America, actually now you have RFK, I would have totally voted for him if I was American, but let's say you go for Trump, and then Trump does
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becomes the president, and he does things that you don't support, then you start to rationalize it, then you start to excuse it, then you start to minimize it. Maybe you even try to, maybe you change your mind and start being in favor of those things that he certainly does. See, it has nothing to do with ideas. We're not advanced enough, collectively, as a species, yet to operate on the pure level of ideas. Plato felt that when man becomes divine,
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then we would be operating from the world of ideas. But the world of ideas are far away and we can just catch glimmer of them. There's filters between us and them. It's like encountering a UFO. You don't really know what you're dealing with here. You can only interpret it through layers, through filters. That's what Jung called arch-types.
00:23:23
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Let me ask you, what do you think the average person during Plato's time, would you think they were on average smarter than the average person now or not? Such a good question. I'm not about this. Sorry. I swallowed some vape.
00:23:52
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Both. We obviously we are more tech savvy. Sean Gepser, he divided consciousness into four parts, archaic mind, mythical mind, magical mind, and technical mind. Now we all have those four aspects in us still. But we have over polarized, modern man has over polarized technical mind. So we are more adept there.
00:24:21
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That's number one. Number two, even if they were uneducated, some people were uneducated, people still have life experience, and life experiences is worth more than formal education in most respects. Furthermore, if we today had the level we are in today, but we didn't have all the distractions, it would be a completely other matter, but most people today
00:24:49
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And I think Scandinavia is worse than Portugal and worse than Bulgaria, but we are swamped into a technological nightmare where everything is codes and apps and digits and people have no time for anything. Because of that, we become dumber and people are less and less specialized.
00:25:14
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It's good to have, you know, a generalist thing. I'm all in favor of generalism, you know, the ability to connect, but to really, it's like, you know, children and languages. If you are a child of bilingual parents, they have found out that if you teach both languages the same from beginning, it becomes language confused.
00:25:43
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and poor. So let's say there's one language from the father, one language from the mother, and then the local language where you live. That's exactly the case in my family. Okay, so the optimal according to the research is that you choose first one language that the kid gets from it's a baby.
00:26:04
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for the two, three first years. That becomes the base language. Then you pile on the second language and the third language. You can do it even before it starts school and it becomes adept in all three languages because now it can use one of the languages as a reference point and decode and break the crack, the other languages. Now it's the same what we're talking about here.
00:26:30
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And if you are specialized in something, you can use those principles, because reality is pretty, the essence of reality is pretty simple. And you need so on. So if you have something that you master, you can immediately convert, it's called intuitive knowledge, right? We don't have that anymore. Everybody had it in the old days, everybody was an expert in something.
00:26:57
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Maybe the most important factor that very few know is that time is, how should I put this? Because this is a scientific thing. It sounds like what I'm saying now sounds like an esoteric thing. It's actually proven by science. I could send you the article. It's very hard to understand and explain, but time is going faster now.
00:27:21
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Now, it doesn't mean that, you know, we live longer than we used to do. At some points in history, in other points, we live longer, you go back to Moses, they live two, 300 years, but time is going faster. The Earth is spinning differently. Put it like this, the
00:27:42
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arrow on the clock is going kind of faster, and we are experiencing things faster. It has to do with the spin of the Earth and stuff like that. It's too technical for me to be able to explain it to you now, but we have actually less time than we did back then. So imagine you live 2,000 years ago, 3,000 years ago,
00:28:05
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And you have more, let's say you have what we know, because, oh, Diorno, more and more people experience that, oh, I just felt like I woke up and now it's evening again. Oh, my God, it's Monday already. Oh, my God. And people know it's just because you're getting older. Everybody feels this. Even the young people. And it's getting worse and worse and worse. Everything is accelerating.
00:28:31
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And that means that I think the scientists found out what we have lost. I think it's like, I forgot the number, I have to look up that article, but it's like two, three hours less in a diurnal in a 24 hour. That's a lot of time. So they had much more time.
00:28:54
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to grow wise. And then they didn't have the distractions on top of everything. No wonder there was like a Francis Bacon or a da Vinci or a Pythagoras. They could sit there and they could just devote time to crack riddles and find answers. Who on earth can do that today?
00:29:17
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Could it be that, I've thought about this myself, could it be that there was less of a body of knowledge to draw on? If you think of it, was it the Pareto principle, the 80-20 rule?
00:29:33
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The first 20% of your effort will yield 80% of the results. And then the last one, it's like when I was writing my book, you know, I could write a 70,000 word manuscript very quickly. And then that last 20% where you're just polishing and editing, it can take, you know,
00:29:57
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triple the time, potentially, you know? So could it be that if we don't have, let's say, a theory to find the, or what's the freaking word?
Synthesizing Knowledge Across Disciplines
00:30:12
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I'm not very good at math, but if we don't have a, what is the, to find a hypotenuse, what do you call that? Do you algebraic expression or what the fuck was it? It's pretty embarrassing. Right, the hypotenuse of the circle. Yeah, so if you don't have a
00:30:30
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If you don't have some type of equation to figure out basic things, if you throw a person with very little knowledge and you give them cubes and blocks and Legos to play with, they'll figure out a lot of things. But once we reach a very high technological level for things, to get anything of significance where you'll be like a star, like someone like Nikola Tesla, for example,
00:30:55
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you need to have something absolutely paradigm shifting. And we had, let's say we had millions or billions of people working in dozens of fields, just thousands or millions of millions upon millions of man and woman hours building stuff that at this point,
00:31:13
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I think I totally agree that you need to specialize in something because the applicability of that skill, you know, what you learned in mastering one skill, you can apply that in many other things. But I really feel like in this world, to be able to synthesize things from multiple, this is what I think the people of old, you know, if you look like Benjamin Franklin or all these guys,
00:31:37
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Leonardo. They were polyglots or polymaths. They were doing everything, engineering and science and philosophy and poetry and art and they were just synthesizing everything. I think that is beautiful. Those people are just a level that is beyond the scope of most of us. But honestly, I believe it's because
00:31:59
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we're being deliberately dumbed down, as opposed to, you know, like John Taylor Gatto, the great sort of, he kind of the whistleblower in the school system, he says genius is as common as dirt. And the schooling system beats that out of you, you know. Plato said it in another way. He said, everyone's a genius just on different matters.
00:32:26
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And he also said everyone is an idiot just on different matters. So I totally agree.
00:32:32
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What about, um, I wanted to ask you, goddamn, I keep, I keep forgetting what I want to ask you.
The Value of Esoteric Organizations
00:32:37
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2080 thing you said. No, there was something, there was something else, but, uh, it's like, there's so many things. Like when you talk like this, every sentence is like, Oh my God, you have to note it down. That's why I do interviews with people like peak. I just bullet point, bullet point, bullet point. And I tried to sneak it in there.
00:32:57
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Yeah, I already have a bunch of bullet points. Let's go back a few steps, it will come back to me. What do you, I'd like to know your, what's your take on the, how do I phrase this, on the superficial mystery schools, like the Freemasons and stuff like that, that any dude out there can pretty much go and join without too much effort. Do you think there's,
00:33:25
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Let's use Freemasonry as an example. Do you think there's value in that other than a buddy's club to get ahead with your career? Do you think there is actual esoteric stuff you could still learn by joining an order like that or fraternity like that?
00:33:44
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Yeah, absolutely. But then again, anything can be a school, anything can be a tool. So it's not like it's much better, especially not in the day and age of books, of course, and now internet, right. So if you have that spiritual mind to begin with,
00:34:04
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where you are inquiring and for some reason you want to do it through a Masonic body. Yeah, I estimate that about 20% of the Masonic members have like a philosophy, like mean it. They are aligned with that spiritual philosophy. And among them, maybe 10%, so maybe 2% in total,
00:34:32
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really get into a depth of that. And they usually become, let's say, librarians, historians, maybe, as hope, grandmasters. So, of course, yeah, anything can you can even learn from traps like Scientology or Jehovah's Witness, or, you know, any cult or sect. It's a hard lesson. It's an expensive lesson. Yeah.
00:35:01
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Nonetheless, it's a lesson. So I think anything, you can also be non-aligned, but there are certain advantages you get from group work. So my advice to those who doesn't want to belong to a club
00:35:14
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is to make your own little network, make your own like book circle, meditation circle, book circle, study group, discussion group. There are four approaches. There's four different spiritual disciplines you can apply to get to the mountaintop.
00:35:33
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One, they can be divided in two categories. One is extrovert, the other one is introvert. Then you can divide them vertically in two other categories. One is individual and the other is collective. So if we start with the individual
00:35:53
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introvert, or I should say, yeah, individual or subjective introvert, I would say, studies, you can study nature, you can study books, you can study systems, symbols, paintings, whatever, right? But it's about you, and only you immersing yourself into something outside of yourself. That's one tool that you can do alone.
00:36:20
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Although if you belong to a real group that has some heritage and maybe some exclusive information, you can get some of that to study. Then there's the collective one, which is the living word. That's communication. It can be lectures, et cetera, but if it's just a lecture, then it's still a kind of a study. You're studying what the word of another one. But if you discuss it afterwards, it's the living word, it's colloquial.
00:36:48
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A colloquial, whether you do it in an organization or with a group of friends, is extremely helpful because it gives you something that you can't get from the other three and you have to experience it to realize it. I realized it once. I had some very deep, very, very advanced insights into a particular system of symbols that is impossible to learn by ordering.
00:37:18
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I was having this study circle and people came. And what happens is that all the people are focusing their minds on the same idea. And something happens that we get connected to each other through that idea. It's like a symbolically a candle. Now the candle sends a different race, but we all connect via that candle.
00:37:43
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So suddenly one person, and I had like bullet points of how I would help them to get to the realizations, right? And I was thinking that I'll let them hash it out before I
00:37:58
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budging and ruining for them. And one guy, he said one of those things, right? It was like a realization he had. And then the other started to get it, right? And then another one, she said one of the next points, and it just developed naturally. Eventually, before we was done, I didn't have to say to reveal any meaning because they all had decoded it collectively. Amazing.
00:38:23
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Yeah, so this is one way. This is the collective. And then the two last ways are the introvert collective, which I would say like ceremonies, rituals, and then the individual introvert, which would be meditation, contemplation, reflection, dreams, maybe. So these are the four principle tools. There's many techniques within each of these tools, but I do feel like working with others
00:38:52
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are important for two of those tools because you need a balance.
00:38:56
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You need all four, basically. So you can do it all alone, I think.
Personal Growth and Life Paths
00:39:01
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have a ton of books on all kinds of things. I have, I think all of Rudolf Steiner's books and all of like really amazing stuff that I've hundreds and hundreds that I haven't even, well, I've opened, but I'm not right. You know, so, but let me, let me recommend to the listeners two books regarding specifically this.
00:39:23
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This guy, he's a British guy, but he uses a pseudonym because he writes about Kabbalah. I'm not deeply into Kabbalah, but I love these two books. And he's called himself Halevi, Shev ben Shimon Halevi.
00:39:40
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Yeah, but he has a normal British name, really. And these two books, and only these two books I recommend, is The School of the Soul. And every time he says Kabbalah and Kabbalist, just change the world with spiritualism and spiritualist, or esotericism and esotericism, because what he describes is general rules. You can be a Martinist, a Mason, whatever you're into.
00:40:10
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So that's School of the Soul and there he explains how to build up your own group without belonging to an organization. Totally a great book. And then here's one that's called Way of the Kobalist. It had another title at some point. And there he explains exactly the same principles only for an individual.
00:40:31
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So, those two books, then you have covered the group thing and individual thing. And those, I think, are very good guidance for people who are isolated and alone, that so many are. And thanks to podcasts like yours and others today, we can kind of bypass that problem that would be huge in the old days, you know, before the internet. Yeah, understanding before books, what did people do?
00:40:56
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Yeah, because back in the day, if you're isolated and you have no books, you're pretty much screwed. But now you might be the most introverted person and you don't have to have the conversation like we're having, just listening into the conversation. I mean, that's why podcasting is so amazing. That's why we all love it and do it is because I listen to people and I literally every single day I'm learning, learning, learning new things. And then one day I just stop and I'm like,
00:41:24
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I listen to you, talk to someone like Anthony Peake, and I'm so humbled, I'm like, I don't know shit. I don't know anything. That's the voice man's prerogative, right? The more you know, the less you know.
00:41:41
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Yeah, I sincerely hope so because I, some days I'm like, honestly, like, I'm like, I don't know anything, even on the health side of things. I'm like, especially, actually, especially on the health side of things, because I listened to a lot of really awesome experts and I listened to them. I'm like, God, am I ever going to be anywhere near that? You know, knowledgeable on this stuff.
00:42:04
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But you know what, I'm just taking it as an inspiration, you know, it's just the ability, like, it's such a privilege to be exposed to all these amazing people. Yeah, I totally agree. One of the reasons I did start the podcast was precisely so I could talk with, yeah, different people who I thought could have an interesting conversation with. But you're right. Have you ever seen
00:42:40
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You've never seen a wise man being self-conceited, right? Only an ignorant does that. So I know Trump said, I'm a genius, but normally a genius doesn't
00:42:58
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doesn't declare his geniusness. Those who think they are, those who are self-conceited, they never appear wise. They always appear fools because that's what they are. And that's why fundamentalists are so extremely stupid because they only see one layer of reality and they trump that layer in a battle. And they think, you know, it could be
00:43:22
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I know more of the Bible than you do. I know more how to tweak the Bible to convince and to get my will through because that's all I use the Bible for. They just use it as a channel for their own fixed ideas, right? And it's the same the skeptics do, right? They, I cite this study, blah, blah, blah. They're all idiots. Humbleness, you know, the more, you know,
00:43:48
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the more you realize that you don't know. So yeah, we all belong to that club, but sooner or later we all join that club. And another reason I love that analogy with there are many paths to the top of the mountain is like
00:44:12
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maybe like I was reflecting on some part of the Kibaleon this morning you know and if we are
00:44:21
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If the human condition is one layer of potentially infinite layers of experiencing being in the universe, then we're in the Kebaland, it's like, at least the way I interpret
00:44:43
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that part is we are on a course of development. So we are learning and potentially coming back to reincarnate, but then maybe at some point the consciousness rises on another plane of existence. So you're now, you know, you could be a mineral, you could be a, you know, a plant, an animal or the layers in between human and then it's all the potentially all the beings and entities and things that
Understanding Alchemy
00:45:11
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angels whatever else that are above our sort of layer but on the way it's it's kind of like a gradual ascension to the top
00:45:21
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where you, um, eventually merge with the all. So this analogy of there are many paths to the mountain. I have to, I honestly, this is a personal lessons lesson for me is I really have to stop. I guess it's kind of my personality. I need to stop trying to, um, help maybe people that don't give a damn about my, my advice or my opinion. You know, maybe I need to
00:45:49
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like I was talking to someone else and I was interviewing a week or two ago and he said he works with clients and helps them with all kinds of things self-sabotaging he says I only help people when they come to me and I think because
00:46:06
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if I help you let's say you're you know whatever and I help you and I set you on the course that I think is right for you maybe I'm robbing you of the path you had to take all around the mountain 17 50 times to see all the different landscapes and visages and the cool birds and the cool plants so I'm robbing you
00:46:27
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of that whole amazing journey, because if you look at it objectively, there is no bad or good when you look at it from the eyes of a higher perspective. So maybe, yeah, this is something I need to work on, my bro. I don't know. What do you think? Well, I mean, I totally agree that those who doesn't want help can't be helped.
00:46:56
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If people tune into your podcast, obviously they are already open. So you have bypassed that thing I mentioned earlier where, you know, they listen to you. So already you have goodwill. So you are in a position to help at that point. And, you know, then it's out of your hands. All you can do is lead by example and give advice. And those that it applies to, it will hit them.
00:47:24
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maybe not everything, maybe not on different levels, but it will do some good. So I'm not preaching that we all should be hermits and withdraw from society. I mean, share by all means share, but we should share without insistence and without expectation. I think it will hit
00:47:47
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where the sun, the sun doesn't discriminate. It radiates its life-giving race to everyone, even the mean and the stupid and the evil. So it doesn't discriminate. And I believe that's how, that's not just a nice symbol, it's an analogy to how it works. If it's truth,
00:48:17
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If the idea is pure, if it comes from a good place, just spread it and like rain, it will find fertile ground. And it's out of your hands. You don't have to be concerned about one particular person or a group of people. And I'm like that too. I wasn't always like that, but now I'm certainly there that they have to, even when they come to me,
00:48:44
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It's a hassle. I have to see how seriously do they really take it. I have a family member who's very curious about all these weird things I'm into. He asks a lot of questions. Some of them are completely stupid, but it's deliberate.
00:49:03
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not always he really wants he just wants like a label so he can pack it away and understand it because he used to think i was crazy now now that he started to hear on in some podcasts he realized hmm there's something to this and so you have to adjust it to the whoever it is you're trying to reach um yeah
00:49:28
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What is alchemy? If I were to ask you, what is alchemy and who are alchemists and do they exist nowadays? Last question. Yes. Alchemy is the acceleration of racing vibrations.
00:49:52
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It's the natural, it's acceleration of the natural racing of vibrations. So a scientist who artificially imposes something which is unnatural is not an alchemist, although he may race vibrations. So to do it even simpler than that, alchemists observe nature and they recognize certain laws.
00:50:19
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And they saw that nature strives for the principle that later was known as evolution. But that's a very limitation of a universal principle. It's the principle of not just random change. It's not transformation, although that is the law in nature. It is the transmutation.
00:50:39
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It's that everything seeks to become its best version. It's that everything seeks to be refined. And in minerals, where the term alchemy is most known, it is the striving to become gold, which was the most perfect element. But there is an equivalent in all sorts, like in plants, in the vegetable kingdom, it's called spajerics. And in psychology, right, we have
00:51:10
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mental alchemy or whatever they call it so it's in an analogy it's it's for the food to become wise but nature do this and nature is patient and nature takes a long time now the difference you know you can just sit down
00:51:27
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you can sabotage. I'm not going out there. I'm not going to learn anything. I'm not going to experience anything. I refuse to develop. Even then you would still develop. It would just take twice as long as your peers, right? But the one who throws themselves out in life or reads a lot of books, I recommend a book by Herman, it's called
00:51:53
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not in Norwegian, it's called Gnosis and Gülmen. If I translate it, it's Gnosis and Goldmouth. I don't know if I don't know the English or the German title, but Gnosis should be a clue. He describes two different people that both develop themselves, one through life experience, the other through reading. There is another book doing the same, Bulvalitn called Zanoni, the Rosicrucian. He describes two
00:52:23
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Adepts, they were born in Sumeria, but they found a life elixir. And the idea is that there are some people like that out there in the world still, they can be run over by the bus and die, but they don't age. And so these were the two last adepts of this particular tradition.
00:52:45
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Mejnur and Sanuni. Sanuni, he was like, he was gambling and he was into ladies and he was a part of life. The other one was more of a hermit. He read books. He was more secluded. But I'm talking myself away. So alchemy is the ability to
00:53:07
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do to accelerate your path, to raise the vibrations or whatever it is, but you have to help the natural way of doing it. So it's to the opposite of the guy who says, I don't want to do anything, is what can I do to accelerate?
00:53:28
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And they learned it by studying the natural principles, and they see, okay, if I do this, and the moon is there, and I put this in there, and I do this and there, and bam. Now I've helped nature accelerate the process of racing vibrations. This is called transmutation, racing vibrations. That's alchemy. This is what the alchemists did.
00:53:55
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is still being done, even by people who have never heard of the word alchemy. And who are the alchemists? Certainly not those who call themselves alchemists. Always been a rule in alchemy, that the one calling himself an alchemist is a quack. He's not an alchemist. The same is true for shamanism and a whole host of other
00:54:18
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disciplines. And if for nothing else, for the fact that you pointed out earlier, that, hey, I thought I knew everything. Now I know nothing. If you know nothing, you wouldn't hide behind a conceited, presumptuous label, would you?
Balancing Personal Improvement
00:54:36
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Yeah. You would certainly not say you were wise. No, no. So that's why Pythagoras launched the term philosophy.
00:54:45
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The tyrant asked him, are you one of these wives? Wise in those days, a sophos, it's the same as a yogi, or as a lama, or shaman, etc. It wasn't like today, where it's this in university, who studied what when? And no, no, it was about a path. They were healer prophets, they were. Yeah, so he asked him that the pathologist said,
00:55:14
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I'm just one who loves wisdom. I'm not a sophist, I'm a lover of Sophia.
00:55:24
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Love that. That's humble. And so what kind of practices do you think one can use to raise, and when you say raise vibrations, what do you mean? And what kind of practices do you think, I mean, I guess reading can help, but is there anything else we can do to raise our vibrations? Or do you do anything to raise your vibration? Yeah, there's almost everything we do.
00:55:51
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can lower or raise. Let's start with what it means. Well, in this particular context, alchemy, it's about transmuting the matter, whether that's mineral or plant or something in your body or whatever, it's to accelerate it. I mean, vibrations, it's swingings per second, right? It hurts. So
00:56:19
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When you alter the vibrations of the particles, or if you want to adhere to the quantum paradigm, you would say that you're altering the waves. What you do is in actual fact, you are changing the substance of what you're working with, so it becomes something else. I mean, I can just set fire on something.
00:56:46
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And I'm changing the vibrations, but that's transformation. It's not, it's not becoming more refined. It's not becoming more potent. It's not becoming more excellent. It's not becoming more pure and crystallized. So it's not about that. It's about, so destruction, although that has its place, a common practice in alchemy is that you start with a prima materia, the first matter, whatever that is.
00:57:12
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And then you, at some point, you have to divide two components in the thing you're working with. And then you refine those two components each on their own, and then you bring them back together. And eventually, you have refined the product. Now, this can be done also in terms of consciousness, or in terms of life energy.
00:57:38
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So you asked how can we, well, I mean, you're already into it in terms of health, right? You already know, probably more than me, stuff you can do in terms of bettering your health, but that's not the entire picture. So we have psychosomatic creatures. So we have to refine ourselves, I would say on five levels, or at least four levels, we would have to refine ourselves in soma,
00:58:07
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which is the bodily aspects of things, we would, and that is both the physical expression, like you can exercise, for example, but it's also the life force, the prana, the pinoma, the chi, the ki, the organ, etc., the tachyon. So it's both a life force and a substance. Then on water, which is the emotional, the
00:58:36
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was it in English, constituency, constitution, the emotional constitution, then there is the mental constitution. And then there is the highest level in man, the creative, this is where intuition and those things. So all those four levels, fire, air, water, earth, to use a symbology to describe those levels, those
00:59:06
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vibration levels in man, all of them can be refined. And when that happens, if you do it in balance, because you can be unbalanced, the New Age will probably do a lot of emotional work, the intellectualist will probably do a lot of mental work.
00:59:25
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the health freak will probably do a lot of physical improvements but you have to and the artist you have to do it on all four levels because when they are in balance the fifth element can blossom like the rose on the cross the seed
00:59:43
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now becomes a blossoming rose. Is that the symbology of the rose on the cross? It's a symbology. The cross is the burden of matter. The rose is the soul. When all the four lower levels in man are in balance, the divine man can
01:00:06
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can express itself. So I would say, and I gave earlier, I gave an analytical
01:00:16
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division of or conceptualization of the four ways to to I was talking about the introvert and actually what the collective and the subjective right so so yeah there's this I mean we could discuss specific and we're probably going to do that when I talk with you for my shows about health tips we could give specific advice but right now we're talking conceptual concepts concepts right so I'm going generally I'm talking principally about things
01:00:45
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we could talk specifically but everyone has different tastes like for some some people maybe tai chi would be the right thing or qigong for some might be dance you know to embody the body themselves like this is something to be honest i've i've struggled with um recent well in recent years is two things is i wanted to meditate more
01:01:13
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I've wanted to do something like Tai Chi or Qi Gong. I've done very basic exercises where when you hold your palms close to each other, I can feel that energy, bro. It's amazing. I'm like, wow, this is life force. This is what they call Qi or whatever else. I can feel it in me. I feel like sometimes maybe I'm afraid.
01:01:42
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And I'm holding myself back to, I'm afraid of experiencing these things. And maybe it's like your own power and like this, the life coursing through you, you know? Maybe, do you think it could be fear that's preventing me from pursuing like a meditation practice or something like that?
01:02:03
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I mean, yeah, fears hold us back, but we have it on different levels. I don't have fear for those things. I agree with you. You have to work with the life force on some level, right? It could be what you said, it could be yoga. In my meditation classes,
01:02:23
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I think already in the introduction courses, I had three introduction courses, I demonstrated this technique for them, where they woke up their ability to feel the pro-manage, just like you described. And many of them were mind blown. But it's a simple technique that give me anyone who's willing
01:02:47
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to go through that meditation technique, I guide them through and they will feel it at the end. That's how simple it is because everybody has it. And I detested I detested these courses where they tried to make it into something fantastic and fancy and exclusive and more the Kundalini and this and that. And I detested because they mystify and they
01:03:12
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exploit it to see we all have the key. I never did that. But yeah, some people can be scared when they feel, oh my god, it's physical. I even taught them how to use this energy on the spine, really on the nerve system to
01:03:31
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boost or improve or balance and harmonize certain things. But my fears that have held me back are more psychological things. It's more metaphysical experiences. If I have an out-of-body experience, I'm always reluctant certain things there. Not lucid dreaming, actually.
01:03:58
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Maybe because it's intentional out of body experiences or even verse, even verse, if it's spontaneous, because then you really don't feel you're in control. But I've learned that it has to do with my fear of heights and you can see it in the horoscope. What's your birthday if you don't mind? Or you could tell me after it. Yeah. But the fear of heights is not really a fear of heights. I have no problem being at the top of the Eiffel Tower. I have no problem sitting in the plane.
01:04:27
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I have a fear of depths. I have a fear of looking out from the Eiffel Tower and then being consumed with it. You can see it in the horoscope. I have a dissonance with air. I believe maybe Pluto or for those who have savvy in this kind of psychological tool,
01:04:54
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I think it's sort of an amplitude you have to look at there. And so which element do you have most dissonance with or detachment with or alienation with or less of? There can be different things. But so if it's Earth, it can be more physical. If it's water, it can be of an emotional nature, etc. So I believe that can be a tool to map
01:05:24
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where your fear, where your limitations are. But yeah, we all have them from your babies. I mean, the cliche of falling down from the, what's it called? Where your mother changed your diaper? Changing table. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So if you fall down from that, right, you have fear of heights, they say. So it can be so simple. But then there's the concept of, oh, it can be from your former life. Who knows? It doesn't really matter where your traumas or your
01:05:54
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limitations are from as long as you seek to neutral. You don't have to fix everything. Only fix it if it's a problem. It becomes a problem if it inhibits your natural growth.
Health, Remedies, and the Placebo Effect
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So if the fair is holding you back, then yeah, you need to deal with it. Very interesting.
01:06:20
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So have you studied about the chakras? I'm sure you have.
01:06:29
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Yeah. We went with my wife to HomeoPath about three weeks ago, I think at this point. And he has this bio. I told the story. So in case people listening, I will keep telling the story because it's freaking off. It blew my mind. So HomeoPath up in the mountains here in Portugal.
01:06:53
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You hold this metal rod in your left hand and then he places the probe close to your nail on your ring finger and the machine goes...
01:07:08
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So he started measuring my wife, and I'm like, how are you asking the question of whatever question you're asking? Because he does it, and then he asks you something. Do you feel like you're this? Are you like this? Do you have a problem with this?
01:07:23
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and he just pointed to his head this guy 79 years old uh looked really well you know skin was perfect no blemishes and um anyway so he got a lot of things right for my wife so i'm there like all right my turn let's do me and um basically just to cut a to make a short story long or to cut it to cut a long long story short um
01:07:51
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couple of things about he said my first chakra and my fourth chakra are not balanced and he gave me some homeopathic thing he gave me a mantra to listen to every day for at least 10 minutes and we've been doing that taking a homeopathic thing but when when you hear something like so we know okay the the root chakra and the the heart chakra or one one and four when you hear let's say something like that um what do you what
01:08:21
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thoughts run through your head when you hear someone has, let's say, a hard chakra out of balance or a root chakra out of balance, what kind of starts coursing through your head now? Well, first of all, I respect homeopathy as a discipline. I don't think that says anything to do with homeopathy, because homeopaths don't relate to chakras. And they certainly don't have this gismu, it sounds like that Dianetics thing.
01:08:47
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That's what I was thinking to myself. Don't make a joke about Scientology right now. He might not even get it. I don't know the technology. It may be completely legitimate. So I'm not criticizing that. But you ask me of my opinion and I cringe every time.
01:09:05
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This is straight out of New Age. Oh, you have to balance your heart shock. It doesn't mean anything. It's just empty words. And I don't believe I've been a coach from 2012 to 2009 to 2000. Now, when did I begin? Yeah, to 2015.
01:09:33
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never gave people advice like that. I wouldn't even pursue to, this is like, okay, maybe if you're a surgeon and it's like very tangible stuff, you can say, yeah, we have to fix that.
01:09:49
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specific thing, but to go into details about other people and their health and their psychology and their constituency on other matters, then very tangible stuff. It's a huge responsibility. And those who do it frivolously, I get skeptical of them. But this guy, I don't believe it's right. That's all it does. And like my wife got his number from multiple different people really said, wow, he's really good.
01:10:18
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So not a quack, you know what I mean? Like the guy. We have an old man, they call him Snorsa Colin. He has millions of people contacting him because of his powers. He's a very simple man. I think he works as a
01:10:38
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something in the church ringing the bell or something. Old simple man and he has extreme powers and the journalist asks him to explain it as if he knows.
01:10:49
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That's like, okay, yes, he won the lottery of having these powers naturally, but he never devoted himself to study and understanding it. So he's the last man to ask. No, I'm not dismissing powers. What I am saying is that if you want to help someone, you ought to, first of all, they ought to
01:11:14
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find out as much as possible themselves, especially about specifics. So in general, you can guide them, you can point them in directions, but I don't believe in this thing of like healing, so-called healing. There is only one healer. It's not your physician and it's not your new age therapist.
01:11:36
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the laying on of hands. It's the natural immune system in your body. It's the pneuma expressing the life force expressing a baby falls down from the third floor and is unharmed because it's a living bomb of life. An old lady trips in her living room and falls down half a meter and breaks her entire bone structure, very little life force. This is the healer. And then you can use
01:12:07
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You know, Frantz Anton Mesmer, a Mason and a Rosicrucian, who stumbled over what is now known as hypnosis from the good hypnosis, because it looked as if they were in sleep when they were in trance. But it was first called Mesmerism.
01:12:26
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And an important aspect in mesmerism was the magnetic thing. That's not so much in hypnosis anymore, but what they have in common with the healer and with the most new age therapist and with your physician.
01:12:46
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is that they boost the natural healer. The first man, the guy who coined the term, this was in the late 1800s, the guy who coined the term hypnosis, he was studying in India and using it on patient mesmerism on patients. And he found that when he used this, the pain threshold went from
01:13:11
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I think it was from 90% to 5%. It went down to 5%. He tried to make it clean in the West. He went back to England, and they were furious. They said that if God, if we were not meant to feel pain, God wouldn't have invented it. Five years later, the corporation launches what they then called Ether.
01:13:37
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And then they said this is an exception to God's plan, because Ether too takes away pain, right? But they would rather have something specific like that to take away the pain and suggestion. And we know it's crazy, right? With multinational pharmacy corporations. But the thing is, without this
01:14:02
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suggestion. The doctor would fail too, in most cases. This is a huge component in all sorts of health interventions. And without it, they can operate you
01:14:17
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They can work day or night on you, but you will die on the operation table. You won't even survive the medicine, anything. It's always a part of the healing system. It's also a part of healing. If there was such a thing as healing, it's a bad thing because it means you have to come to me and I fix you.
01:14:37
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And you become addicted to having no, a real healer should trigger your ability to heal yourself. Yeah, that's, that's healing. And that's how I this is why I'm against advices is just my opinion. I'm not
01:14:52
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forcing anyone to adopt this attitude. But this, oh, you have to fix your third chakra. This chakra stuff is bullshit anyway. It's really the glance in the body. Sorry to interrupt. I've got a couple of, let me just tell you, because he said, you have mercury amalgams, right? So we spoke about that. He gave me the number for a biological dentist and stuff like that.
01:15:22
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and then he was doing other tests and he said but you have another meto in your in your mouth and it took me like two three minutes to actually remember that a few months two three months ago i got implants i had completely forgotten so i thought that he got the bolts and plates in my ankle where i broke my leg i thought that's what he was picking up so i was like how in the hell did this guy know that i have a second like so he was very adamant
01:15:49
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he wasn't like do you feel like you had no he was like but you have another mezzo in it so this is where it blew my mind and yes a lot of these things you can learn to read people over the decades and stuff like that but anyway i he got too many things right he another thing i just to before i show you the books he he also said where we live
01:16:09
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there are underwater currents and the energy of water moving under you, the quality is that it takes energy away, the flowing current of the water. In this book here,
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that I bought about bio-resonants, according to a guy called Paul Schmidt. It's from Professor Dietmar Haims. So it's a pretty thick book. And they cover all kinds of things like energizing water, acid-base, balance, geopathic, stress, electro-smog, energizing frequency carriers, like a lot of organ tests and stuff like that. And then there's another one here, bio-resonants, a new Jurgen Häneke.
01:16:53
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natural path scientific principles and practical experience so haven't dug into it much but what this guy said is the water underneath
01:17:03
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the again where we live it has that quality of taking energy away so that if you can think of a geopathic stress could be you could be on a fault line you could be like somewhere with a lot of you know emfs like power lines so there's various kinds of i guess geopathic stress that you could sort of think about but um the place where we live is called
01:17:25
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Part of the name includes wells. So there's definitely water because there's a river nearby or like a canal where we live near the sea or the ocean. So he got too many things right, which is why I got super intrigued and maybe one day I'm going to go talk to the guy.
01:17:46
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See if I can study with him for a week and like just kind of he should he should have given you specific suggestions rather than these flowery generalities about fixing a chakra chakra is just a model.
01:18:02
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But if he gives you a specific task, that's different. As for this water thing, it's completely true. It's an old insight. It's nothing new. They've worked with this for thousands of years. I fully agree with them. And I wouldn't say it takes away your energy. What they would say is that water, we use it, you know, here in my country, we use water to convert to electricity, right? So water is electricity, it's power.
01:18:28
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And the currents, they generate a field of vibrations. And that field may work either as a dissonance or neutral or as a resonance, like harmoniously. So yes, it can.
01:18:48
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Yes, it can interfere and create health troubles and make you fatigued. Could it be because my wife is a water sign and I'm a fire sign that it's dissonance because she's water water and I'm fire and it's maybe it's cooling me down while I'm sleeping or something. Could it be that? I don't know.
01:19:10
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I mean, it will cool down water people too. Okay. But no, no, I totally support this idea of, you know, cleaning the vibration field. There's also something called radion or radionics. There's a lot of different pollution, energetic pollution things. But you know, for modern man,
01:19:37
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If we're going to have these concerns, and we probably can talk a little about it when I enter you too, you should be more concerned with how much Wi-Fi is in the area, how much mobile, because we have now filling these vibrate frequency layers with artificial noise. And just because you can hear the noise doesn't mean it's not there.
01:20:01
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The ears may not pick it up, but the rest of your organism picks it up. So I, for example, in this house here, everything is wired. Cables everywhere. There's no wireless. Same here. I'm the same. Even when guests come, they're like, can you turn the Wi-Fi on?
01:20:22
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Do I really have to my kids right here? You need the internet that much you came to visit me you want to I offer them a line. Oh, yeah, of course. Okay. I know I offer them a line after I have to rip them a little bit, you know But you know, sorry just a couple of more things. I definitely agree on the topic of homeopathy I totally agree with you that I
01:20:46
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I respect it but I don't understand well, but what I don't like about it is homeopathy again looks at a symptom and then it provides something for a symptom which is allopathy, which is what the dominant medical paradigm which we know is wrong does. What a true practitioner should do, you're exactly right, is should
01:21:14
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create an environment for the natural healer, the vital force inside one, to affect that healing. And usually, again, it's just removing the obstacles to health. So I totally agree with you on that point. But what this guy recommended for the water thing
01:21:32
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Maybe this you might think is not crazy. He recommended putting a quartz crystal in a glass of water under the bed with a little piece of paper that he gave us that says neutralize. And he said that the quartz crystal will sort of take that energy and put it in the water around it and the water will store it and we just change it every couple of weeks.
01:22:02
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crazy wu wu shit or what do you think? I mean, yeah, it's wu, but wu just means it's not completely understood by, I mean, it may still adhere to principles of reality, which eventually may be mapped scientifically. For example, quartz crystal,
01:22:26
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We know that crystals are the most powerful conductors. I mean, we use it, we couldn't have this conversation without those crystals, right? It's in your computers, everything. So who's to say, I'm not an adept on these matters, but I'm completely open for, and then you have the research of Dr. Emoto, right? That intention influenced water. We are 80% water. Obviously, we are influenced by water. Obviously, it can influence us.
01:22:54
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And the power of intention, that's fire, you know, fire. So yeah, I'm not going to dismiss this, what we would call like old wife's remedy that he gave you, right? It's just very hard to, the problem with it isn't that it's a vous. The problem with it is that it's like it can't be used
01:23:19
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You know, in the health matters we are used to in the modern life is that we want one size fits all. We want an objective solution that everyone takes and it has the same effect. But even there it never does because the environment is different for everyone, right? So we can take the same medicine.
01:23:39
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and it can have different manifestations due to, all right? But this thing is even more esoteric again, is even less applicable for all. So it's very hard to verify. And as soon as something is hard to verify, then they come in and say, oh, it's open for con man and swindle. But it doesn't mean it's swindle. It's just that it's easier because anyone could just say anything, right? And because of that,
01:24:09
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But it's a trust thing, right? If you think that Guy is genuine, if he has a good track record, anecdotally speaking, what can it hurt? We also have the placebo effect that could play a big role as well. Suggestion. The natural immune system, it will play a big role if you already respect the dude.
01:24:31
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Oh yeah, and you kind of, you almost preempted it. We should be better at this, but sometimes you forget things. We had a baby, so we sometimes you forget things. But I took my EMF meter, bro, and went around where my wife puts her pillow. I measured a very strong signal, and the freaking lamp that was there,
01:24:58
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that wire was creating a field that's exactly where her head was. So I unplugged the lamp a day later after we saw him. The first day she didn't sleep too amazingly. She had like almost a cleansing reaction. I also kind of didn't feel amazing. But I unplugged that lamp and she slept well almost every night since then. So was it the lamp
01:25:22
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that I unplugged? Was it the homeopathy? Was it the crystals? Was it the placebo? Was it the guy's intention? Because another thing is in natural medicine is the intention of the doctor. If you don't give a shit about like, you know, if you don't give a shit about your clients or your patients, they will feel that you know, they won't, they might not even feel the placebo effect. Yeah, yeah. I swear to ancient Greek medicine, but
01:25:48
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It's natural medicine. But, you know, we all have some of everything, right? So you can take one component to fix it.
01:25:56
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and it can improve, but there's probably room for more improvement. In general, what you interfere with there is what's called dirty electricity. And the more gismos we have, so-called smart gismos, the more it generates, I forgot the scientific term, but the common term is dirty electricity. So yeah, in general, we should try to reduce all
01:26:25
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the courses for dirty electricity in the house. And in the summer, what I do in the night, I just switch off the main, what's it called in English? The breaker, the circuit breaker. Yeah, the main circuit breaker. So there's not physical electricity swimming around, at least not in the rooms. I don't, of course, we have to have the freezer on and other stuff. Right. But, but yeah. So in general, you can do those things too, to improve. I can't do that in winter then.
01:26:55
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We don't. Bro, that's a very good idea. Folks listening, do this if you can. I can't because if I turn off one, they all turn off. In my house in particular, I can, but most people should be able to at least turn the bedroom one off at night, I think.
01:27:11
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That is brilliant.
Energy, Memories, and Consciousness
01:27:13
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And the adjacent room, if possible. If possible, yeah. Because it's about, or put your bed as far away from wires as possible. Another trick is to change the direction of the bed. You probably know about that too, right? Because it's not universal, but we sleep better with the head in one direction than another. Is it facing north?
01:27:36
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Or it's not universal because there may be local factors like the water currents influencing. So my general advice is always just try sleeping a week with the head in one position, then in the next, then in the third, then in the fourth. And you will find out if you have that luxury to choose all four. Interesting. And what do you think?
01:28:01
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Is it because we're, I suppose we run on EMFs, to an extent we have an energy field, we have sort of an electromagnetic field. Could that be a factor? Is that why sleeping in one direction is better for sleep?
01:28:19
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It's so many things. They talk about ley lines, you know, the natural currents, earth currents, and magnetism, natural magnetism. It may be the Schumann resonance influences us. It may be even cosmic rays and stuff like that. It may be geometry.
01:28:39
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the resonance between. There's so many things influencing us. Everything is energy, right? Everything is just pure energy. Now, coincidentally, we can make shaping colors and sounds out of certain frequencies. That's why you see this appearance of this figure that you that impress itself upon your consciousness, that gives you an idea of an identity of me.
01:29:07
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But in total, if we really saw things as they were, it would just be extremely many frequencies. So yeah, everything is electromagnetic, depends on if you want to limit it, or if it's a free range, then yeah, everything is electromagnetism.
01:29:28
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But we're not really running on it, we are radiating it. We, you know, in the ancient said that everything is created by, they talked about creation of race. So you have one ray emanating in one direction, which is, we can call it the course for the atomic energy, creating substance, what we perceive as substance, then you have another ray,
01:29:59
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the life force ray that animates everything. You know, when certain atomic bindings are optimal, life manifests automatically. If they're suboptimal, if they're in dissonance, either no life manifests or worse yet, life
01:30:19
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goes out. Like if you shop off your head, then we are interfering with the substance of your atomic energies or life disappears from there. But between those two, there's a third ray, the ray of psyche.
01:30:32
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the consciousness manifests. So first you need a physical vehicle, which needs certain environments in that energy field. Then you need the life force to enter into that vehicle, like water into a
01:30:54
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cup. And then when that is optimal, then the psyche can manifest can use those two vehicles as
01:31:08
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tool to manifest in. So yeah, my answer to that is yes, absolutely. But of course, as human beings, we're just a part of the totality. So it's very hard for a part to understand the whole, right? If I was a small little bacteria living or something even smaller inside my little finger,
01:31:32
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then I would try to think I could decode entire organisms, entire existence. Well, one thing saves us. And that is that the universe is designed upon the principle of hollow graphics.
01:31:53
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And that saves us because that means us above, so below. It means that the whole is always repeated in every, it's like fractals. You can zoom in on one bit and it's the same principles repeating again and again. And because of that, we can map the local environment, whatever we work with here.
01:32:15
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psychologically, physically. It can be in terms of, yeah, we can work with energy systems like astrology is an example of that. And then when we map
01:32:27
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the rules and principles in that small sample of the totality. Then we can try, by way of analogy, to decode how it manifests in the microcosmos. So you can study microcosmos, and you can understand microcosmos. It's the mirroring, right? That saves us. If it wasn't for that, things would be so complicated, we would be lost, man. We would cry.
01:32:53
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Bro, I love that. It's a beautiful sort of depiction of the concept. In fact, I had a question that kind of relates to this. I wanted to ask, you know, I think it was maybe when you were talking to Anthony Pico, but I think you've actually mentioned it multiple times that I've listened to you is you say that the best way to control people
01:33:17
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is not through coercion or bribery. I've said it many times. Yeah. So you say that the best, and not even fear, but the best way to control people is to take away their memory and make them forget who they are, what they are. So with that, and look, we're not here
01:33:41
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You or me or the people listening here, we're not children. We know there's a lot of messed up stuff in terms of the falsification of history, what science... I mean, you don't even know that. You don't even need that. Just dementia itself. That's my big fear. Dementia. Oh my God, man. Yeah.
01:34:02
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So, but I guess my question is, so we know that they're trying to falsify history and make us think what the nature of reality is, you know, materialistic and bullshit like that. But could then the antidote or the way to protect ourselves from that is to go inward in our own mind and use meditation to, you know, understand the mind and maybe that will be
01:34:25
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a way to, I guess, de-understand our true nature, the nature of our reality, instead of looking at history books that are falsified in other materialistic nonsense. What do you think of that? Yeah, there is this belief that all ancient cultures were honoring the ancestors. We've lost that now. Now we put the ancestors on a home.
01:34:55
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I mean, we have no idea where we come from. But there is this idea that you can unlock memory in your genes, in your cells, or in the collective unconscious. Jung talked about how, in his foreword to the Tibetan book of the death, he talked about how there is a veil, a natural veil, and that veil is there to protect us.
01:35:24
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Because if that veil was gone, we will be overwhelmed with impulses from the collective unconscious. But the idea is that we can tap into. And this is what many people do when they like remember past lives. But I always question that because there's no saying in these are your lives, you experience them from the subjective vantage point, right? So you identify
01:35:52
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But that's because you need to, unless you're seeing it as a third person perspective as a movie. So if you see it from how you know this was yours, you kind of tapped into someone else's experience.
01:36:09
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So there's a lot of philosophical problems around that. But yeah, people get all sorts of experiences of former lives and many times these things check out. Research into reincarnation has shown that remarkable details that is beyond
01:36:28
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co-incidences, random coincidences. But then again, you can have experiences with other worlds, other planets, other things that can't be verified.
Death, Reincarnation, and Esoteric Beliefs
01:36:42
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And the imagination is pretty powerful. So how do we know that
01:36:47
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We are not just composing at all. It's very hard questions to really know for sure. Maybe we only have one life on Earth. Maybe we reincarnate backwards in time. Maybe we reincarnate on other planets, other dimensions. Notwithstanding, can there be other organisms than people? There are those who believe that.
01:37:17
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What if we all are the same person? What if eventually I'm going to reincarnate as you and eventually you are going to reincarnate as me? Then we all come truly, because if we all come from the one source,
01:37:33
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Only on certain levels would identification be real, distinctions. The higher up you go, the more they two blend and then you get the collective human soul. And this is scary for many. It's as scary as if there was no reincarnation because it means the death of the ego.
01:37:53
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And that is the problem, right? That is the reason, that is the true reason for fear of death, is the dissolution of the ego, because the ego knows it's not getting out of here alive. That's why the ego has to either sedate you, never think about death, or it has to maybe fear, put you into some backo-religion or, you know, some kind of
01:38:24
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distraction or not distraction suit the clute with a Norwegian, like the child needs something to, you know, what's the English word, you know? Oh, pacifier. Yeah, like a pacifier, or it needs, yeah, so avoid that, or, or like the elites, right? Oh, find, find a remedy for me to live forever. Yeah. Which I have now. And so, yeah, anything to avoid.
01:38:52
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The only democratic, fair rule of this game, which is death, coming for us all. I actually wanted to ask you, do you fear death? A fair, painful death?
01:39:11
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And I fear dementia, death by dementia. Like, I'm not here when I die. I also fear dying with regrets, because everybody I talk with works where dying people say that's the thing, I'll call that person from 1943, I want to make amends, etc. If I could have an optimal death,
01:39:40
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like I was laying in bed. I was not in pain. And I was like, no, almost nobody dies by old age anymore. Yeah. Which old age, which by the way, only means that the preordained number of heartbeats has come to its end. Then I wouldn't fear it as much. I would probably be
01:40:05
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happy with the life I had and feel that it was time to move on and I had my love once around me etc. I'm going to interview a woman who works with a new discipline. It's an old discipline but it's a new in the public world. I forgot the word. It's about how to
01:40:28
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create optimal death environments for patients. But there is this esoteric idea, I can't say this is scientifically correct, but there is this esoteric idea that every person is born with a specific number of heartbeats. Now, obviously those are related to your breath, because the more you meditate and the deeper you breathe, real breath,
01:40:56
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and slow breath, the more you squeeze out of your heartbeats, the more the heartbeats go down. Maybe that's why they say people who meditate always look younger, right?
01:41:07
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So there is this idea that you have a number and not just that you have a pre-order number of hotbeats, but that that number is never the same. No two person has the same number. And there's even this third layer of this idea. And that is that that number is your frequency number. Wow. Yeah. So it will be the number of your soul. Wow.
01:41:33
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And that would be powerful if someone knew. And because you have in the myths, for example, Isis. How did Isis become divine? She was really a kind of a witch woman. She entrapped. She ensnared Ra. She studied. Every day he came to Earth and he went through the valley and went back to the other world.
01:41:57
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rather sun god. And she was the most adept wizard or witch in the ancient kingdom. And she designed, she found his his flaw, his weakness in through the python snake, and he bit like his Achilles heel. And I'm dying. Help me. I have a remedy here. Yeah, give it to me. No, only if you tell me your true name.
01:42:25
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Because if you know someone's true name, you get power over them. The same if you know your own name, you get power over yourself. And that name should be understood as in the lost word of the Freemasons, the lost word of creation. It's
Mythology, Archetypes, and Storytelling
01:42:42
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related to the Umm of the Buddhists. It's in the beginning was the word and the word was good, was with God and the word was good.
01:42:52
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or logos more correctly. And so he gave her a bullshit name first and she saw through it. Then he tried another trick and she saw through it. And eventually he said his true name. This is the rationale of all magic too, that the real name we're talking about is the essence of something. It's the number of vibration. Because if you have the exact number of vibration, you can, for example, transmute it.
01:43:21
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Right. Which is a racing of vibrations. You can interfere with the vibration. This is also related to, you know, people using vibration machines, all that stuff. It's not enough to have an effect. You have to know, is this going to be optimal? Is it going to be positive, neutral or negative? And then you have to create a field of two crossing races. Anyway, I'm rambling. That's another debate. So eventually he said his true name and she got the power of Ra and then she became divine.
01:43:51
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and a goddess. So this is a very interesting story, because in that symbolism hides many, many universal truths that's very applicable. Not when you use the technological mind, but when you use the magical consciousness or the mythical consciousness, maybe not so much the ochre consciousness.
01:44:14
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Can you, yeah, because I think a lot of people, we can listen to that story and just analyze, analyze the crap out of it, but can you give us a glimpse of when you talk about this magical,
01:44:30
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You mean translated to technical consciousness? No, no, no, no. Quite the opposite. What is this magical consciousness? What are its qualities or how would you describe it? It's just a model. It's not important what we call it. I really use the
01:44:49
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term, earth, water, fire, air. But anyone who wants to, you can just Google it. Sean Geppster is the name of that guy who launched that model. It's closely related to the Myers Briggs, which is taken from Jung. Jung's model, of course, is taken from the model I'm working with.
01:45:14
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earth, fire, the classical model. So it doesn't matter what model people use, just understand that everything is categorized in this world. Because when things have different frequency numbers, it naturally belongs to different... Let me put it like this, a piano.
01:45:33
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a piano has 12 notes, right? 12 archtypes, 12 signs of this subject. Now, seven of them are important. That's the that's the principle of vibration. Everything that vibrates repeats itself. That's why it's called an octave, because oct is the eight. So it goes from dor and dor, mi, fa, sol, la, si, dor, a new dor, right? So that's the eight.
01:46:04
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Comb eight, it starts over again. Then you can put in the five halftones in between, right? Like in the rainbow, like in everything that vibrates. So the idea here is that if something vibrates, it has to belong to one of the arch types. Like I said, it's 12 altogether when you include the halftones. And these 12 can be categorized into four, right? And I call these four. It's not important what you call them. What's in our name?
01:46:34
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Any roast by any other name would smell just as sweet, right? But I'm used to the classical terms, water, air, etc. So, when something vibrates, it's already a category of something, because we know there's a difference between DAW and RARE. We can see it in the colors. Colors are also vibrations that are, at the end of the day, interpreted in our consciousness, right? That's two different
01:47:04
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And then we can hear it with the words, dore. So there's a difference. And that difference is a quality difference and it's a quantity difference. And that means automatically a category.
01:47:17
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And so what was the question again? So when it comes to consciousness, it's the same there. The mythical or the magical mind? What is that? So the archaic mind is the oldest mind. That's the mind that we used like in the Stone Age kind of setting. The mythical mind is what was dominating in the times when the myths were alive. The magical, you know, in fiction,
01:47:46
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literature. There are, especially in South America, there is a very popular category, what you call it, a style of writing that they call magical realism. And that's popular because, you know, we all have these four categories, but if you take two categories and combine them successfully, people can relate to it.
01:48:10
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and it appeals. So they take, let's take solvadorion.
01:48:17
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what's this, House of the Spirits, that novel. So there you have, or you can take that movie called Pan's Labyrinth, again, magical realism. And on one hand, you have the revolutionary or the fascist troops, there's war, there's, you know, they're fighting for a better mental society, it's very brutal, it's very ugly, it's very real, right? And then in the middle of that comes something crazy like,
01:48:44
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Have you seen the movie? No. I think it's a Portuguese director, actually. Pan's Labyrinth. But House of the Spirits, too. It's about the coup in Chile. So you have that realism and then you have the magical component and it appeals to both types of people because they are playing on two different consciousness
01:49:08
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categories. And if you're polarized in realism, and you're suckered in through the realism because you like that, you can understand that.
01:49:20
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And now you respect this great piece of art or literature, whatever it is, then you become open to the other part that they sneak in there, the magical part. And then it lures something sleeping deep within you out. So you get the feeling of there's something, this moves me, I can't explain it. You know, music does the same, right?
01:49:42
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Or it's opposite. You may be like completely with your nose in the clouds and you love that magical component. But because of that, you like this movie or whatever it is. And so now you also are engaged in the realism part. So you see,
01:50:00
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Things can be communicated in different levels, in different types. And some it can even double communicate like that style does. So there's nothing more and there's nothing less than that. But we all have it in us. So I can explain a story mythologically. I can do it by analogy, by metaphor, right? I can explain this story magically.
01:50:28
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I can say something that someone who lives in a tribe, who believes in superstition, as they call it, would understand, or I can explain it in modern terms, but it's maybe the same truth.
01:50:46
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And people today do the mistake of thinking that facts are truths. And like one of my guests said, I think it was Peter Levinda, I forgot who, but it's brilliant. He said that there may be more truths in a piece of fiction than in a factoid. Right? You understand that immediately, right? I can I can write a story and everything in this story.
01:51:13
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is based on reality, is truths I'm spewing out. Or I can write a piece, an article for Washington Post, and everything is nonsense. But it's factual, quote, unquote. So fact checked. Fact checked. We need fact spin, right? So
01:51:40
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Yeah, I don't see any reason to spend a lot of time explaining this. I don't think it's very deep. I get you. It's like guys like Rudyard Kipling and stuff like that back in the day or even George Orwell, they wrote these books about the
01:51:59
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you know the times and without getting in trouble because they're writing just a writing a story you know or guys like um token a jr token he's talking about all this crazy magical fairy shit but like i i've listened to some guys that say you know maybe that that dude wasn't just a fantasy writer he was a little bit of a historian you know that oh he was a linguist and a tropologist haven't you noticed haven't you
01:52:29
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He was influenced by the First World War. Have you noticed how close the Ork language is to the Turkic languages? That's no coincidence. And in Scandinavia, we are very pissed because the director used New Zealand, has a similar nature. Argentina, Norway, New Zealand, very similar nature.
01:52:54
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in my Norwegian nature when he described these huge mountains and fjords and everything, but they used New Zealand. I think, yeah, that's weird, isn't it? But you don't have to go that far. Look at Star Wars. Star Wars is the Empire, right? It's the American Empire, or any empire really.
01:53:17
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Back then it was the American empire, the Vietnam war, all that. It's completely forgotten now, but he used Joseph Campbell as a consultant and Campbell of course have deconstructed the hero's journey, right? Which is the archetypal elements you need in a good story, storytelling. So there you are using partly mythical and partly magical consciousness when you
01:53:47
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follow that script. You have it in the fairy tales, you have it in everything. So it's universal concepts. Even some fairy tales, if you read Roostana, you know, many fairy tales are even universal in that they have different names, they have different expressions, but it's the same moral or essence in them.
01:54:09
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Love
Self-Reliance and Independence
01:54:10
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that, bro. Man, listen, we have to have you back on, bro, because, like, just epic, epic stuff. Yeah. We've been going for a while. I like that you have long form.
01:54:22
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We can get somewhere. Oh, listen, we could have gone longer if not for my bladder is about to burst and I have to go drive my RNA home. But I have one question that I asked near the end for my guests, just so we always make sure to end on a positive topic or a positive spin. So it's for my solutions.
01:54:47
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Excuse me. It's for my solutions talk segment. So Al, what are you doing that others can do also to increase their freedom, self-reliance, autonomy, and or resilience to the challenges that we face this decade and beyond? Oh my God, man. That's a show in itself, isn't it? Yeah. Okay, I'll pick out two.
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I'll pick up three elements, which I think are very important because they are so immediate. I think you have to begin with these three maybe. One is economically.
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In this world where it has every man for himself, dog eat dog, you have to find some way to have some relative economic independence. You don't need to be rich. That's bullshit. But you need to, if you don't have your head above water, if you don't have food in your belly and roof over your head, you're a fucked man. You forget about all these advanced things. So you have to find a way
01:55:59
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just for that. And if you can afford it, I recommend investing in Bitcoins. Just buying Bitcoins and have it there because the economy is about to collapse and it's high time because it's so toxic anyway. And hopefully the old elite will suffer through that. But it's a show in itself. We can't talk about that, but I have had shows about it. So if people want to check them out, they can. So that's one remedy. Then it's
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There's so many layers to answer that in, right? Freedom, independence, health matters, obviously. So I would try to take my health into my own hands and positive thinking is a cliche, but it's true, but it has to be like a natural positive. It can't be like enforced affirmations. Yeah, they may work, you know, look into the mirror and tell yourself something positive. I
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At the end of the day, it can be like fake it till you make it thing but you have to make it that's the point. So, and that's connected to other things again, primary needs like love and
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But you have to be able to express. You have to be able to express creativity. If you can create in your daily life, it will boost your health, it will boost your happiness, and it may even bring you money. So find a tool for expressing your creativity. I don't care what it is. It can be food recipes. It doesn't have to be like painting or music or something like that. So you have to be
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or a podcast. So you have to be able to, or poetry, it doesn't matter. Find a way that you can express, you know, find out what, what do you know? What do you burn for? What's your passion? You may be a car mechanic. What do I know? Building a car is created, right? But you have to express creation. If you go through life without creating, you're dead inside.
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So I was thinking about that. I was thinking about that. And then spiritually, you have to cut out, you have to stop consuming as much mainstream sedation as possible because we don't live in a free society anymore. We live in a cult.
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And you have to detach yourself from that cult. You have to be able to function within that cult. You can't walk around with a poster saying the end is nigh, right? Like some lunatic. Neither should you walk around like some kind of warrior, your conversion soldier. Ah, you have to come. No, go amidst them. Read the golden verses of Pythagoras or read the Siddhartha.
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that's shorter and more up to date. Both have the same message. So walk amongst them as you are one of them. Never attract too much attention, never attract too much envy, nor too much spite.
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in the extremes that tend to be the biggest problems. And build yourself a circle of equal-minded people you trust. You only need a few good friends. You don't need like a battalion. And I think you have the tools to get by pretty well if you could manage all that. And if you have all that, god damn it, you're lucky.
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Thank you, bro.
Podcast Distribution and Political Skepticism
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That's really well said, man. Thank you. And finally, just tell the listeners where they can find your work, bro. Yeah. So it's a fellow podcast forum Borealis, but I also have a YouTube channel. So you can find me on the video versions of my shows on YouTube, Odyssey and Rumble.
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And the audio version is on all podcast platforms, whatever you listen to. What about yours?
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You have video versions too, right? My video is on zencaster.com, just because it's the easiest thing to do after recording on Zencaster. I could just publish the video. I have a rumble, but I only have some videos on autism for now. But I'll see how it goes. I will see how it goes for now. Oh man, you must be stoked about Robert Can... Fitzgerald, Kennedy Jr.
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To be honest, I couldn't give a damn about, look, I've donated to the Children's Health Defense, his organization. I like what they're doing. But it's like, who was it? Was it Lenin? Or was it someone else that said, when the people need a hero, we shall provide them one? It wasn't Lenin.
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who wrote morals and dogma again? I think he said that when the people need a hero that we shall provide them all you know so for me like these are these are
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not consequential things you know it's like it's like you take a little ant and you or you take a like a cup of water in it you have a massive fire in your house you take a cup of water like this cup of water has really good intentions let's let's work stop the fire cup of water i don't think it's i don't think the stuff is consequential to be honest what do you think i agree we need systemic change right but the problem is
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whatever changes the system, whatever it is, if you have an obstacle in the central engine of the system where these people operate, then it's even worse. So we got around one of ours into the central engine, if it can be done right, but something like that into the central engine. And then we also do all the other stuff we need
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to change the system, including raising the general consciousness, then I think we're better off than if someone who gains from this faulty machine that is falling apart is the gatekeeper of the engine. So if you donate it to it,
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At least you like the man and all the kiddos. Yeah, of course, of course. No, no, no, I like, I really, I even, because I know they were looking, they had something, they were looking for volunteers. I even said to Monima, look, I can help with writing articles and stuff on the topic of children's health, blah, blah, blah, offered my services if I can.
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So, I like what I do, man. We just need more. You're right for saying that. Just because someone isn't perfect doesn't mean now we have to shit on everything. For example,
Conclusion and Hopeful Collaboration
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people that only know statism
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You tell them about anarchy and they're like, yeah, but your thing doesn't solve all of our problems. Therefore it's worthless to even try. No, it's whatever it is, wherever, or rather whatever RFK does will be infinite better, if infinitely better than whatever other swamp creatures were going to take his place. So it's good. You're right. We have to, we have to celebrate the little wins as well.
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yeah yeah amen to that amen this podcast was one of them yeah and again bro listen i i don't want to be pushy or anything but you have to come back on again bro it's just i know people will love this and um i just i know in inside your head is like
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the Nile River, a massive current of knowledge that we just have to unleash on our listeners here. Do we really have to? Well, we must. We must. Well, I have to get better with my analogies. I've tried to work better on my analogies. Will we visit the mountain next time?
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Yeah, dude, that one I'll be pondering over. Meanwhile, I'll have you on my show so your listeners can check that out too. We're going to discuss health, right? Yeah. Looking forward to that. All right. Thank you so much, Al. Yeah.