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That's how we're feeling.
Introduction and Fashion Talk
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we are back and we are video recording today here on Dom and Dahmer. Thank you.
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you. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome because you're going to see all of this today. Whatever this is. You're seeing it. This is everything. This is very like morning news, like sexy little porn star look. I'm into this.
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Great. Thank you. I felt like I... worked at the like accounting firm in, uh, Emerald city. i'm like, you're getting high end wicked hooker. oh
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ah Defying gravity. I should have wore pink. I should have wore pink. oh i would have been So, so I don't want anything pink, actually. So that's right. You're a dark lady. I am a dark lady.
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My new thing is dark colors and glasses, sunglasses inside. That's see that's my look. Yeah. You're giving glamour I'm giving I'm a hungover and my eyes need to be covered.
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That's also I mean, that's both very L.A., Yes, absolutely.
Drinking Stories and Social Observations
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I drank so much wine yesterday. i'm not a big wine drinker. I don't really like wine. I drank so much wine.
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I was like, eyes crossed. I'm like, I haven't been drunk and I didn't eat. So I was like drunk at 12 o'clock in the afternoon. That hasn't happened to me since college probably.
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Do you day drink? Um, I, I don't like to just because it makes me sleepy. Yeah. I kept like, even yesterday I kept wanting to. Um, and I was like, if I do it, I by nine o'clock, I am going to be ready for bed.
The Club Scene: Dancing, Bars, and Phones
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But you're like, you, you have like, you have said in the past your alcohol or drink intake every day is insane. You're like coffee followed by beer, followed by wine, followed by a Red Bull and a monster. And then you finish off the night by a nice hot chocolate.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah. a Glass of milk. I know. And I haven't had milk in the house. And like and when I'm saying milk, I'm like lactose-free almond milk, something like that. Nut milk. Nut-based.
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I love my nut milk. Nut milk. But, okay, one, I am not like crazy alcohol drinking. um No, it's just the way that you drink and the order of what yeah you drink is, to me, questionable. That kind of happened yesterday because I had...
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Like ah one of those poopy drinks. we love We love a poopy. Oh, I love a poopy. It regulates me right up. Yeah. and Because of you, I've been drinking them. That's right. me on the poopy drink. Sponsored. so We're waiting. Waiting. Waiting for that. Thank you, poopy. Poopy.
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Poopy. And I had one of those and then Shannon and I went and grabbed a coffee and then went into drinking a beer That comes out. um And then went into hard liquor.
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And this is what I was going to say is that the... um the Oh, I don't do this effort yesterday. i though I did not set that up for myself. Oh, my God.
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i We went to um gym bar. Right. Have you been? Yes. Very fun. Okay. Great time. They poured me a drink.
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That I and I did the thing where I wasn't looking at him pouring it. I'm like looking around people watching and both John and Shannon were like, girl, did you not like see?
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He just poured like three shots of tequila. It was like all like tequila and then this much of the Red Bull that I asked for. Oh, wow. And so when he gave me the can, you know, normally there's like a little swig left and it was like half the can left.
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Yeah. A heavy pour. Honestly, if Jim Barr, if you're listening, thank you for but giving your patrons what they're asking for, which is, I guess, three drinks in one. Thank you.
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it Yeah, I that was all I needed. i was I was good. Thanks. I appreciate it. I love it. as much as And also I was like. but by the time ah yes By the time I um was leaving there, yeah I was like, guys, I feel like I'm on mushrooms. I am losing it.
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So that was yesterday for you. That was yesterday for me. I'm proud of you. Also lovely to hear that you went out and didn't invite me. Oh, God. Wow. Yeah. The truth be told, i always, always assume that Dasha is doing something i was cooler and better. i was. And keeps her schedule pretty ah packed up. So. Oh, yeah. There have been very ah few a time where I've texted you and you're like, yeah, I think one time I remember texting you and you're like, you were just home kind of whittling at something.
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Yeah. Well, when I'm home whittling at something, you cannot reach me because I need hours to whittle. Oh, wow. Yeah. No, i I was recording yesterday and then I was doing a bunch of stuff. So i I was just kidding. i wouldn't be able to go anyway. But um I would go next time. That sounds fun. Yeah. it's some It's like fun.
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But do you ever have those moments where you're like, this sounds more fun on paper Ooh, yeah. I think that's what is tough for any of us to get out of the house sometimes is like...
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we're so used to just like kind of chilling in like a living room and just vibing and that's like good enough and like content enough and there's so much energy it takes to like get up you know get your shit together go out like you know we were on the earlier side and and showed up like in weho at um at like 8 p.m., which is crazy. And that's early. Crazy.
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But i was like if I was like, we will not go out if our start time is 10, because by the time 9.30 rolls around, it's like, hmm, this couch feels good.
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yeah um And like we want to go out. Like there was like a reason to go out and like, you know, might as well just like make a moment of it, do some bar hopping. I think a lot of times for me personally, when I go out, the vibe is not there because other people are not giving me the energy I want.
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Like I feed off other people's energy. i'm So when I walk in and people aren't dancing, I'm like, well more more more walk and I don't know. I just feel like people aren't dancing at clubs anymore. And that is like a real shame.
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Why aren't you dancing at clubs anymore? Y'all. What's going on? You're going out to the club. You got to dance. You got to dance. Or like move a little. I'm just like, what? So you yeah you could drink at home. That's the whole thing. If you want to go drink at home. Why come to the bar if you're not going to shake a little ass?
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Yeah. You know what was crazy, by the way? That same night at High Tops, we left a different bar to go to High Tops. we went We went to this um Fox Fire Room or something. It was like ah an Irish bar, like a straight Irish bar that had like an outdoor patio.
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People there were fucking going crazy. People there were drunk and sloppy. People were there were like scooting and booting and trying to talk to whoever. And I'm like, okay, time has come where straight people are more fun than gay people at clubs.
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And I think gun to head. Yeah. I'm thinking gun to head. Are you kidding me? I'm having more fun at a straight bar. Yeah. Hey, what?
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I know. i you know, I've. Well, see, that's the thing is like I am in my era of going to those like kind of neighborhood hometowny feeling bars that do very much lean street you know it's like margaritaville playing and uh people are doing the two people are like more excited about the taco truck that's like pulled up yeah and i'm like yeah this is kind of my vibe Because people are actually talking and having a good time. And then I go to these other bars and I'm like, why is everyone here miserable?
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And why is, and I'm like, and did you come here to take photos? That's the other thing. I'm like, everyone there is just kind of to take a photo and leave. And I'm like, there should be um a price to pay. Like almost like a you check your phone at the door. You're allowed to take one photo only at the end of the night and only if you danced well.
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There should be a ah law. Wow. Like if you did not provide a good vibe, if you did not contribute to a good vibe, you do not get to take photos of this.
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never happening in Los Angeles. I don't. I will make it happen. I will take everybody's phones. I'm taking everybody's phones. Hey, that's like a new new club idea where you take everyone's phones. You coat check it. Yes.
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In a little blog bag. And that's like part of the experience. Absolutely. i It would vibe with like a certain number. 5% of people. It's so rough out here. It's horrible. In these streets. That was the thing is when we were coming into this month's episode, I was like,
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we had We had the day where we went to the protest.
Protests and Politics
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that was really nice running into you, I got to say. It was very lovely. It was like, I don't know. it feels really comforting to know that you're like that you wanted to be there. And like it was just very nice to see you there. And it was lovely.
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Listen, I 100%. And I felt very vulnerable asking people to go to this. And then I was like, I can't believe I'm feeling vulnerable asking people to go to this. That's interesting that it comes to that you're feeling like vulnerable and that's like the emotion behind it. Yeah, because it's like asking ah to commit to something i I'm not sure about. Like, I don't know what it's going to be like that day.
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i wasn't sure. Yeah. But you know what? You're you are, if anything. To me, you're like one of my most courageous friends, one of my most, um you know, stand on something friends. You know, I think that's the whole thing. And you we would we've been seeing things like online, at least recently, where...
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people are calling out like, you know, how can you live a life and not like take a stand or have like a ah position on something and like speak it into existence and like support that. And I think that's really true. And again, why I went out because I didn't want to feel like that person who's just complacently sitting, you know, I wasn't out in downtown during those protests. And and
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I mean, they had so many that day across the country. um So to be able to just go down the street and experience that with everybody. It was nice. It was nice to see like so many people there. Oh, yeah.
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by the way, when we left, so it was like when we when we went our separate ways, we were like, OK, we're going to go like towards our car. And right as we took a right onto the street, the march started right there.
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So just and and the people that were leading were like, get over here. And we looked at each other. we like, OK. And we just literally were at the front of this thing that was starting, like in the middle of traffic, just walking down the street, like past all the but WeHo bars, like past every. It was on one. It was surreal because it was like people brunching. I mean, i will say, ah Heidi and i we like pretty much right before that ah para parade started, we walked to Rocco's and got ah chicken tenders. that crazy? we were like sitting out on the...
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On that patio area at that corner, seeing you guys start the parade. And where I'm like eating a chicken wing being like, yes. And there was Pink Pony Club playing. And I kind of had this like spiritual moment where I was like, my God.
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Okay. Well, we're going to check our charts real quick. And we're going to be right back with more. Dom. And. Dommer. Yeah.
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Okay, my charts are crazy. They're saying I'm closed off, have too much self-respect. And you got ah tall ass walls up. My walls are tall. ah And they're walling people off. They're tall, Republican Party is envious.
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because They should borrow my walls. They need your walls. They need my walls. They want your walls, girl. Oh, my God. I'm like, listen, build, build. If you could build anything, and my mind, I'm like, how about a nice bridge?
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Nice highway. How about you work on the roads in Los Angeles a bit? Yeah. Put some effort into that. We need that. Mm-hmm. Because i I promise you ladders exist. They'll climb over It's just a fact.
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Yeah. And stay out of the national parks. Oh, my God.
Environmental and Personal Convictions
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I yeah truly feel like the last few days, i just keep seeing like these headlines that are so ah like gut wrenching. One, I was already upset about all the layoffs that the National Park Service had. And.
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and In general, it just seems like a downward spiral. And I know there are things that people can do to help, but I feel like the bigger picture is like totally totally thrown out the the window.
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i speaking as someone who like immigrated to this country, like one of the things that people really love about America is the national park system. Like everybody that comes here, the first thing they talk about is like your national parks are, are incredible.
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Anybody, they go on tour, they go to different ones. They speak about these like beautiful preserved areas that they're impressive and awe inspiring. And it's like, It's almost like they are on a mission to make us the worst thing in the world. They're like, we are going to make this the worst place in the world. We're going to take the one thing that people like about you. We're going to ruin it.
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Ruin it. Yeah. This is like the last thing I'll say because it's, it's intense.
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And it's a critique on everybody, myself included. We've gotten complacent with being like saying something is enough, like saying I'm upset is enough. It's no longer enough. Like it never was enough, but it's it's not enough, period. So like...
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The only things that change is putting your body on the line, like how it is the thing that we listened to at the protest. It was Pickles, the drag queen who was talking about it. She was saying how like the difference between ah conviction and an opinion is like putting your body on the line.
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That's the difference. It's like, what is an opinion? It's just a thought. What is a conviction? It's a thought that you actually like believe in. Because otherwise it's just an opinion. it was I'm i misquoting, but it was like really powerful to hear that from her. She was like, I know people want to kill me.
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I know people want to kill me from for for reading stories to children. and she And she said, I'm willing to put my body on the line. I'm willing to die for this. And I went, now that is inspiring.
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Yeah. Shout out to Pickle. Shout out to Pickle. For sure. i was just seeing like pictures of her um this morning reading stories. And one, she just, she looks so gorgeous everywhere she shows up. She's so polished. She has marketed herself so well, I think, as an individual and like holds that space ah that she has created for herself.
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And I think she does it with so much grace, I guess is what I'm saying. So um it is, it's so fucked up and sad. the i mean, that...
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on top of all the other issues going on. But that, um, again, another tactic, tactic against these minorities. Listen, it's been like this all the time. Like we grew up in a very lucky time where we saw what it was like when there was a lot of progress, like people our age are very lucky.
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And I think that a lot of us are getting down because we remember what it was like and we're seeing everything that's happening and it's depressing us because we know things could be better. but in the bigger scheme of things, this always happens. It is always an ebb and flow, shout out money music, about just how things get progressively better and then things get progressively worse. It is a pendulum. It always swings like that.
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And it is like, it is our job to survive. It is our job to thrive, to not forget, to not give up. And it is our job to keep fighting because that's the only option you have. That's the only option. and we could get sad and we could reflect on things and that's okay too, but it's really important not to lose sight of the fact that like, this is not a reality that is forever unless we choose that.
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Like no one can choose that to be something that happens. Yeah.
Debate and Public Speaking Skills
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Did you hear about that New York guy? Zoran? I was on a debate team with him in high school. Like he was in my debate team. No way. It's so crazy. Cause I remember him a couple of years ago, he was like running for city council. Like we, you know, we all talked about it as like people that went to my high school. were like like, look at what he's doing. That's so exciting.
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And then I, when I was like but three, four weeks ago, when I started seeing that his campaign was getting traction to be become like the next mayor, I went, Oh my God. Like this kid might become the next mayor of New York city. Like,
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I remember from high school. who We did stupid debate trips. Might be the next. Was he a good debater? Yeah. All right. Well, there you go. I mean, I was on the best team in the country. Thank you very much.
00:17:56
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So, yes, he was, in fact, a good debater. um I can't remember if we you talked about this, but so ah you liked debate growing up. Oh, that was my life. Yeah. Yeah. We had a debate team and I was always intrigued because I thought that the idea of it is so cool. There is an art. There's such an art to debating. Yes, for sure. And it takes so much strategy and research and planning.
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Yeah. Dude, that was four years of my life. like i Six, actually, because I was a coach. But i I mean, it was my favorite thing in the world. It became like... it's like crack cocaine. I mean, this thing was like, I mean, terrifying to go and debate in front of people. And I would like be very scared about it. But like, when you fucking nail someone on something, they said that's a lie. And you're like, and you really know how to like convince someone to vote for you.
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There's no feeling greater. I traveled the country. I flew to tournaments. I was the, New York State debate champion in public forum. Thank you very much. I would have loved to see you in action. Oh, i wasn't as good as Thomas. And you know my friend Thomas. he's ah He was incredible. Like, he's the kind of person that you watch because it is entertainment.
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He would read these fucking dolls. I mean, he was like... I remember one time he like... oh man, he just like destroyed this other team. and it was And we came to watch him. like we were like We all were done with ours, and we went to watch him because we knew it was going to be entertaining because he was so good at just straight facts, funny, confident, laying everything out, not forgetting anything, knowing what was important, like guessing what the person judging him wanted to hear. like It was really fun.
00:19:49
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Yeah. That's awesome. Loved debates. Um, it, does it does seem like a really like fun and cool time, even just in the little kind of playful ways that I've, I've done it, but it does feel very intense. And I think I would crumble. I'm like, I'm not great with public speaking.
00:20:06
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Um, I think I could be better if I like allow myself to be, um, cause in moments where I kind of have to, I think it's like the anticipation of it. That's what like psychs me out. Cause if it's like,
00:20:18
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Oh, I didn't have time to think about it. And I'm like hosting a show or whatever. um I can kind of be nimble and whatever on the mic. But if I'm like overthinking it, going into it, then it's a whole different game. And I think that's my issue. Like, even at work.
00:20:36
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people would ask if I wanted to like present this or that to like a staff meeting and I'd be like, Oh, you know, that's like not really my thing. I feel like I, I have like a weird nervousness around it it would rather let someone be able to like, you know, get the information out there.
00:20:54
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i hear you. i think I'm, I'm not very good at memorizing and like,
00:21:02
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spewing that back or performing it, but I am okay with like if I write something down like points and if I have that in front of me, At least that's what debate helped me learn is how to like look at the bullet points I wrote down and remember what I was going to say about those things. So if I have that, I can really like I can perform that.
00:21:22
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But I'm not the best at it anymore. I mean, I've i've gotten I got I haven't done it in a long time. But I remember when I was practicing it every weekend and every week, it was like it is a skill you develop.
00:21:34
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And it's more about like listening to all the information, writing down the things that like you disagree with or agree with, and then just talking about those things and kind of um crystallizing the important things. Because like the most um successful public speakers, and we could think about like Obama or, you know, other presidential or like AOC, like why are they so good?
00:21:56
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It's not because they know everything. And they're like to they're giving you countless things of information. It's because they know the points that are the most important. They highlight. They repeat. They go, this is a figure that's a large figure. If I say this figure is going to stick out in someone's mind, they're just very good at presenting information in a um persuasive manner. And that is a learned skill.
00:22:18
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Anyone can learn it. But... you can absolutely do it. Like I know if, even if you're nervous or something, it is a skill that you gain. So some people are naturally predisposed to it, but it is a learned skill as I've learned from yeah debate.
00:22:33
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So put your kid into debate. I don't know if you want them to be, they want them to be. Yeah. I mean, I, I think I should have but like pursued it more even in middle school. I mean, middle school is when I started seeing like a debate team yeah at school and,
00:22:50
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ah Again, that was like always seemed cool to me, always seemed very hard. And then, yeah, the the thing that we debated in college, at least one of them that I remember was just like ninjas versus pirates.
00:23:02
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Like who would win? And, you know, it got very heated. Of course. i mean, these are life or death. yeah But I think we came into tonight into the night where it's like one team had...
00:23:15
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you know, had it drawn up for ninjas and one had it drawn up for pirates. So we were already like prepared for who won we were going to, um, who would you want to win? Ninjas or pirates?
00:23:29
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So I was kind of thinking that through. And as, as much as a pirate fan that I am, I would, yeah, hella pirate fan. I do think, and if I'm recollecting the debate properly,
00:23:45
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Ninja team had a good point that like there is a solid chance that the ninjas could take out every pirate Without the pirates even knowing.
00:23:58
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And that's where it's true. like the Like one of the biggest ninja traits is their stealth and their ability to like, you know, kind of hide in the shadows and all of that.
00:24:12
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So let's say there was a group of ninjas coming onto to a pirate ship and, you know, annihilating everyone on the ship. They could probably stealthily do that without much fight at all.
00:24:25
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Yeah, because it's kind of like you could be like, well, and they're in the water. They're protected like a ninja can get to them. And I was like, they can get to them. Yeah. They'll get to them at a port of some sort. At a port, a ninja boat.
00:24:38
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A ninja boat. Correct. A stealthy ninja boat. Babe. Submarine. Just roll up. Yeah, ninja submarine. They're the first ones to do it. The first one to do it. Okay. I see that.
00:24:48
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Listen, i i also adore that Emerson College was like, The big debate topic is ninjas versus pirates. Yep. Love it. I mean, we were dealing with like frat boys, so. I love that. And you guys had extemporaneous performances of debates on these topics?
00:25:06
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Yeah, at least that was one of them. I think every semester there was like a debate that happened. Interesting. And it was like, you know, similar kind of world. And what would happen to the winners? What would happen to the losers?
00:25:18
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um I don't know. i don't think, I think it was maybe just bragging rights. Cool. I don't think anything. Who was the best debater, in your opinion? Oh, God. i I do not know. there were But that's the thing. They were definitely... It's so interesting to see, again, like, this being, like, a simulated thing.
00:25:37
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Those traits come out of people. Like, I just remember that element of it where i was like, oh, like... You know, this person and this person's really going at it heated about this now.
00:25:50
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And then you would find yourself getting heated about something because, again, I guess it's the lying thing, too, where you're like, that's like false or that, you know, that doesn't matter in what we're trying to say or whatever.
00:26:01
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And that's where Thomas was incredible because his bullshit meter was on high alert and he was really able to twist these lies and be like, be like, I mean, he was so funny in a way where he would read these people. Like he'd be like...
00:26:17
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the people they're citing, it he'd be like, oh, that's like asking Sarah Palin to write, to read the dictionary. Like he would say these crazy lines and it would be so effective because we all understood what he meant and it was so persuasive and so i loved watching it.
00:26:33
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I loved coaching too. Like coaching kids was... You would be good coach, yeah. I loved it. got... My first time coaching in California, I got a team to get to be qualified to the TOCs.
00:26:44
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I'm still friends with him. And then when I went to back to Bronx Science and coached Bronx Science, I got a couple of teams to the TOC. I was loving it. I was like... Wow. This is definitely... i I'm so glad we got into this because...
00:26:58
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Yeah, this is in you. This is in your blood. It really was. i was at the TOCs when we found out Osama bin Laden got killed. Wow. We were sitting in the hotel craft classroom in Kentucky waiting to for the next day to start the tournament, and he got murked. And when people saw that in the news, people got up because they had to go back into their rooms to redo research and reprint things because they had things in their cases.
00:27:25
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This is for a different form of debate, not ours, but like people that did policy-based literally got up and had to go and reprint things because they're like, fuck, like our whole point is out because he's alive. Like, or he's dead. Like it was, yeah. And I was like, I mean, man that was a crazy night too. I remember people were clapping and like people in New York were not clapping.
00:27:45
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Like the New York coastal schools were not clapping, but other people were clapping. Oh, interesting. And she we were like, okay, well, yeah. I mean, I feel like I, girl, I think I remember the date. Cause they like one day they like found bin Laden first. that Right. Right.
00:28:04
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They found him and then they executed him or what? Or was that the same day? You're thinking of a president of a country. Osama bin Laden? Osama bin Laden, they killed him, threw him in the ocean. We didn't see anything of it. We just knew that, like Obama just went, we killed him.
00:28:20
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They didn't announce that they found him or anything. Okay. think you're thinking of the guy that got publicly executed. Saddam Hussein? Yeah, think thinking of Saddam Hussein. Okay, yes. i But that wasn't who, because they found bin Laden in like a cave.
00:28:34
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Right? No, he was in a house. Zero Dark Thirty. Him and his wives, Seal Team Six, showed up at night with some helicopters, pooppa poop, poop, poop, worked him in the head, threw his body in the ocean.
00:28:46
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Crazy. Okay. Well, I guess what I was saying is i feel like the what I think it was the day that that happened. Yeah. I was in New York, like at a in a day, it was like a day trip. Oh. And, um, I remember seeing that headline on like a marquee yeah as we were driving by in the bus.
00:29:05
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And everyone was like clapping and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. We were like, I'm like, I don't want, and at that time I was like, I don't want to clap for someone's death. Like that's my big high horse situation at the time as a public school debater in Kentucky. I was like, I'm not going to clap. And people were clapping and I was like, a man died. I'm like, I don't give a fuck.
00:29:26
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I don't give a shit anymore. Look at what's happening now. Like if I only knew, I only goddamn knew. Exactly. Like, people have no morals, actually. So let's just fucking get off your high horse, baby.
00:29:38
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Yeah. yeah Yeah. um All right. Are we going to take a break and prepare ourselves for our favorite game? i think we will. I'm going to go lo Google my track record because that's still available on...
00:30:05
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And if that piss come out of me onto the seat of a laboratory,
00:30:15
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we are gonna possibly stop being today.
00:30:24
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Did I sing the entire time you were in the bathroom? Correct. Is it gonna be a fun little thing for you listen to later? Maybe. Correct. Maybe. Okay. Welcome back. Welcome back. Oh my God. You guys, you, you're in for a treat because we're going to play this kind of crazy game.
Games and Trending Topics
00:30:45
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We invented it It's, it's insane. I mean, no one has ever thought of anything like this before in their lives. Ever. Ever. Ever. ever In the game. It's a little complicated. Keep up.
00:30:57
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It's called. Yes or no. Oh my God. Oh my God. And if you don't know the rules, they're kind of complicated, kind of easy. Yeah. Depending.
00:31:13
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um We're going to give a topic. Tossy to We're going to, I guess, kind of debate a little. We're going to debate. we're go We've been debating every episode. Who would have thought?
00:31:24
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Love that. All right, girl. Give me your first yes or no. Okay. Are you ready, Anya? I am. Yes or no, LaBuboos? LaBuboos. Thank you. um Wow. I know.
00:31:39
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oh know. So i i understand the LaBubo craze. It's happening. Honestly... One of the small bits of joy that it seems like people are having these days. And I can't, you know, negate that from happening. And I don't want you to. And I, and yeah, and I, I don't want to, um have I purchased or received a labubu? Um,
00:32:09
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um Shame. Would I like one? I think so. At this point, enough people have made me now almost jealous yes of not being a part of agreed the Laboonation.
00:32:22
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Laboonation. How do you feel? Laboonation.
00:32:27
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Is that the theme song? At least that's what I wanted to They have theme Apparently. It's very cute. um I wanted them. I wanted one so bad. wanted to the blind box on opening. I really wanted to. i even went to a mall, the dreaded mall.
00:32:41
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I went to the Pop Mart freaking little whatever. they They were like, the Westfield mall has the little um vending machine. Go. So I'm like, okay, maybe it's over there. There's no vending ma machine at sight.
00:32:53
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No, no. There's just a big old boarded up Pop Mart that looks like it's waiting for a war to start. It's like a bunker. It's got like three layers of metal sheeting keeping parents and their crazed children out. t So I didn't go in there, but I did buy a full set of cry baby toys and I did have people and I did go over to someone's house on Friday night and we did a blind unboxing. It was like six people. it was like a pizza party. It was quite fun.
00:33:18
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Oh, wait. So you got one. I got cry babies. They're different ones. Okay. Those are the ones I have. And I have a little angel and a little devil kissing and they're magnetized. It's very sweet. Oh, okay. Yes.
00:33:29
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And this is the cry baby that you just gave me. No, I gave you a cry baby, which is a pop of girls. Yes. Which is different. I got, but they're a cry baby. Yes. Cry baby. This is like a different series. Yes. Okay. Wow. yeah That is cute. hope you love a little butter cup. I was like, you're my little butter cup.
00:33:47
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And girl, I feel like Buttercup. This is Buttercup after she sold some real estate. Yes. And she is just looking to now settle down in Huntington Beach.
00:33:59
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Yeah. um Buttercup was like, I'm not part of this like three sister act anymore. I'm not defending the city. I'm selling houses. i'm selling the city. I'm selling it out. Yeah. And you did. And you look great.
00:34:10
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Thank you. I do think you look really good. um Thanks. i on a Shout out to my mom for this dress. When she bought it at the Burlington Co., o I was like, Mom, I'm putting that in my luggage when I leave here.
00:34:24
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And she said, yeah, sure, because I'm never going to wear it again. And it fits me. It fits me well. Absolutely crazy how the Burlington Co. factory went from being a co-factory to just we sell everything. Yeah. Literally everything. And no coats, by the way. I went in there to get a coat.
00:34:39
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There were no coats. Okay. Well, maybe you're going to the wrong one. Also, if you're going to a Burlington coat here. That's what saying. Yeah. I went here and I'm like, I need a coat for Burning Man. They did not have a single one.
00:34:50
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I went, okay. Normally they're pretty good at that. Buttholes. um Okay. I've got one for you. Go for it. Pain Stimmers.
00:35:02
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What is that? Like a pain stemmer, like something that's like pain stemming. Are you familiar? No, tell me what. It causes pain? Like, okay, so there this is like going back to like, so you know how like some people like will enjoy pain.
00:35:21
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This is kind of where my thought process went. ah Some people like pain in in a pleasurable way, right? And some people use that like you know psychology in like a like ways to suppress anxiety or not suppress, but like relieve anxiety and stuff.
00:35:43
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And so they've been selling these pain stimmers on like TikTok in the same way that you'd have like a squeeze, like a squeezy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But these have like little spikes on them that you like. Oh my God. Yeah, girl, I have one. I have one here.
00:35:56
Speaker
Oh, wait, wait, wait. Now you're showing your ass. Say more. um but no wonder you had me smack the shit out of you during that one video. You're like, do it harder. I don't care. I'm fine.
00:36:08
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I know so much more about you. Okay, great. yeah Got it. um Or like, you know, when I get tattoos, especially on my arm, I'm like, yeah you know, I kind of like don't mind the pain. I'm like, oh my God, you are so hot.
00:36:19
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Oh my God. You are hot. Okay. I mean, I guess it is like a kink in that way, but I never, it never comes into like that side of things. Like I've i've never been in a sexual situation where I'm like,
00:36:32
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Give me pain. Normally I'm like, no pain, please. Painless. interesting But in real life you're like, give me spiked toys. Yeah, I need to find where it's like probably in my bag. But um it's like a little ah squeezy thing. They're not like needle spikes, but they're enough to like give a sensation.
00:36:51
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And I, you know, the TikTok shop, it it sold it to me. Wow. um Interesting. So it made me like think of, you know, just that in general of like,
00:37:02
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Are there any pains? Like, okay, for instance, like cigarette burns. Like, have you ever had like a cigarette burn? No. No, I would say like, maybe like a, in a, okay. When I get my like, um ah
00:37:21
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blood pressure taken, you know how they sometimes put that thing on your arm and they like, it really squeezes you. Hate that. So sometimes I like it.
Personal Anecdotes and Dietary Discussions
00:37:30
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Oh, okay. So sometimes if it goes on long enough and my arm is numb and it's just, sometimes I like that.
00:37:36
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Okay. That's as close as I could probably get to that. I mean, that is like something like yeah that. but Like a spank is nice. The numbing thing, like, okay, when you get blood work done and they tie that like rubber thing around your bicep, i that freaks me out. I don't like that. Yeah. I do have to look.
00:37:52
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I have to see them take the blood out. I can't just be like, I have to see them do Yeah. Because I'm like, what if they stick me somewhere? i don't want to be stuck. You know, I've had that happen, babe. And that's why I have to look.
00:38:04
Speaker
No one's going to be putting it in the wrong place. ah Yeah. I mean, not that I could do any better, but, but we have to cut this out, but I have to tell you, I had sex and the guy, of course I was like, let's turn. I went, can we turn around? I'm like, I'm going to turn around. Cause I want to do it from behind.
00:38:18
Speaker
I was tired of the position. Try to put in my ass. Every time. Every guy. I'm like, when I say turn around does not mean put it in my ass. In what world? Anyway. Wow. Okay. i have to keep that in. It's just absolutely horrid.
00:38:35
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ah That's so funny because that maybe tells me more about him than... and And this has happened so many times with partners where they take... And it's like, they know that's not what I mean.
00:38:51
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But they think they can try it with me. And I go, in what world are we cold hog sticking anything in my ass without having a conversation about it?
00:39:05
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We got... it I wouldn't do that to them. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Imagine me going, Oh, turn around, baby. Not asking, just trying. you They would probably hit me.
00:39:18
Speaker
I mean, even as a gay man, you got to ask first. You have to ask. And my response is, um, always, uh, it used to be like, Oh, I think you meant, you know, that was how I used to react. And now I go, and I literally, this I've been doing, I go, that's my asshole.
00:39:34
Speaker
I go, that is my asshole. And I matter of fact, they you you like this yeah that's my asshole. No, I don't even turn around. I go very, i I go, that is my asshole. And they go, oh, I'm sorry. And I'm like, you knew that was my ass. That is not what I meant. i have to say it just like that.
00:39:50
Speaker
Wow. shut You shut it right down. Because it's ridiculous. They think they could just do whatever because like, you know, they think you could, you know, I don't know. The vibe I give off is like, I don't care. You could do whatever. And it's like, that's not the vibe I give up. You think that's the vibe I give off because that's the amount of respect you give me.
00:40:08
Speaker
And I'm going to shut that down right away. I deserve respect, baby. that was tangent. That's true. Get your holes right. Get my holes right. Okay. Okay.
00:40:27
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Adults picky eaters. i'm not talking about children. I'm talking about adults. um I am not a picky eater. I definitely am like... I wish people were more outlandish with with their food. I get that like... I mean, if you were...
00:40:45
Speaker
raised your whole life like being allowed to only eat certain things and because that's what you wanted then I can see why you are now an adult picky eater but growing up in a family that was like this is the food that's being served tonight you're gonna eat it sometimes you're not gonna leave the table until you eat it sometimes you'll starve unless you eat it So, and I mean, like, to me, i think it's crazy because, like, most things I think are good or have a chance to be good. There's, like, only one or two things in my entire life that I've tried and I'm like, hmm, maybe that's not for me. Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:28
Speaker
I'm right there with you. I feel it says a lot about a person when they're a picky eater. Obviously, if there's an allergy situation or if there's like a restriction in terms of like you're a vegetarian or whatever, I understand. Then you do that's a justified pickiness that I'm okay with.
00:41:42
Speaker
If it's like ah I only eat carbs or I don't like vegetables or whatever, and i'm like, you are 37 years old. Eat a fish. I don't know what to tell you about that.
00:41:53
Speaker
Eat a fish. Eat a fish. It's okay. Unless a fish killed your parents, eat a fish. You know, and it is, you're absolutely correct. It's like, it just shows me that you grew up in a family that was like, oh, Billy gets to do whatever Billy gets to, oh, isn't it cute that Billy only eats butter noodles? And it's like, Billy, some people had to eat hot dogs and cottage cheese for two years because they had no money. Okay.
00:42:21
Speaker
Variety is beautiful. Yeah. Well, also just for your diet, like when when people eat, when people are like kind of stuck into eating like fried foods or you know, just kind of your you're like typical start starches and chicken. It's like, oh, my God, you're never going to eat a green this whole month.
00:42:42
Speaker
A complicated carbohydrate wouldn't hurt. Sweet potato? Come on. Even though I'm like, hate sweet potatoes. i was I used to eat sweet potatoes like nobody's business, and I think I overdid it, and now they're like ah my second option.
00:42:59
Speaker
My only real picky thing is that I don't like, ah I'm a texture person. So I don't like when I'm eating a yogurt for it to have fruit in it.
00:43:10
Speaker
That's my only, oh like maybe a peach. I could have like a peach in it, but like that's it. that's And that's me being as picky as I get is I go, I would prefer a yogurt that didn't have fruit in it. Interesting. I i prefer yogurt with fruit in it.
00:43:25
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I love like when they when you get that yogurt that has a little like jelly side cup that you can kind of pour into it. Oh. Fajé.
00:43:37
Speaker
Fajé. Fajé, they know. They know. And they know I pronounce it the right way too. Yes, yeah. Get them. Get them. We found a voice. Get them. Who said it?
00:43:49
Speaker
Um, okay. Is it, oh, is it me next or you? Baby, it's you. It's your turn. Okay. Turn around. It's your turn. Turn around. That's my asshole.
00:44:01
Speaker
I'm never going to stop thinking about that. crazy how you cosplayed me exactly. That's exactly what happened. Turn around. That's my asshole. That's my asshole. You know the difference. They look and feel and sound different. If you were eating me out right now, you'd tell the difference. Oh my god Word. All right. um Okay. um Hometown friends, long distance friends.
00:44:32
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oh I guess, ah exist I guess like, yeah, it's a it's a little more than yes or no, because um like how how much are are you like keeping up with ah communication? Gotcha.
00:44:49
Speaker
ah people from like childhood and things like that yeah i used to be one of those pieces of shit who was like if you don't text me all the time like our friendship is dying how dare you not you know i was that person in fact i brought it up to my friend almost who was just like you're not being a good friend. what it i And now I'm like, baby, he had a life. You had no life. You should have, you know what I mean?
00:45:13
Speaker
So I think, um, I try to keep up. I text, I definitely make sure the friendship is being serviced. I, I randomly text, I make sure to ask how people are doing today. I got a wonderful call from a friend. I was like, what a lovely thing. don't get calls all the time.
00:45:27
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so My friendships are relationships that need maintenance and attention. So I often believe that they should be maintained, watered, and paid attention to.
Friendships and Social Comparisons
00:45:44
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What about you? Yeah, definitely. um Yeah, I think I... I have been doing better about this, ah you know, I would say over the last like year or two, simply because one, I was like getting nostalgic um and feeling those things of like what it takes to keep something going and nurturing it And if you truly care about somebody, like um how do you make that happen when you're living across the country?
00:46:13
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um But really that like, deep feeling of, of missing them. and And when you do have those conversations, you're like, Oh, like sometimes it feels like no time has passed.
00:46:24
Speaker
Sometimes it it reminds you of like why you were friends with them in the first place. And like, it does make you miss like kind of living around them more, you know? um And there's definitely, you know, I don't have too many people in my life that are like that. And you know, that can definitely be partly on me. i feel like when I moved to LA,
00:46:48
Speaker
i you know, was so focused on the grind and the hustle of living out here and, you know, the things that are in your immediate line of sight throughout the week to week. So, you know, even with friends out here, it's like so hard to yeah ah keep in touch and, and see people that aren't in your immediate week to week circle.
00:47:10
Speaker
um So then to even have that for people that you might haven't even seen in years, um, that are kind of living a completely different life than you. Um, but it is important because, you know, um, ah each like points in our life, no matter where we are, um, those are the people that helped shape us, helped, you know, develop us and who we are today. um,
00:47:39
Speaker
um you know, they always, in the same way that you could see yourself as what you serve in their life, they serve in yours. Exactly. and it like helps you kind of like reconnect with yourself.
00:47:51
Speaker
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Like really helps. I go, Oh my God, I remember I was like fearless or I was this, or like, look either how far I've come or i would like to get back a little bit more of that, that I used to have.
00:48:05
Speaker
It's like really special. And like talking to someone that's known you for that long, it's important. It's like, uh, you know, I'm envious because my friends are successful and they're doing well and they're just like,
00:48:19
Speaker
incredible and sometimes I feel very lost and then talking with them brings up those feelings which I think makes it a little harder to like constantly keep keep in touch because I'm like it's always reminding me of that but you you do have to kind of like give yourself a pass and be like they love you regardless and you're on different paths and that's okay So, yeah yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have very successful, like successful, smart, kind friends who are doing good for the world.
00:48:53
Speaker
And I'm like sitting with my thumb up my ass being like, I'm trying to write cookie, spooky scripts and it's not working. You know, so it's like sometimes I go, wow, like what the fuck? Why? What did they see in me back then? You know, that like if they knew I was going to in my opinion, this much of a loser, why would they be?
00:49:10
Speaker
And then I go, well, that's because I'm not a loser and they're still friends with me for a reason. Like, and it helps me remember that. So, um, that's true. It does give you a different perspective yeah that we need to be reminded of. Yeah.
00:49:26
Speaker
oh my God. I got one last one for you. Um, but also to, yes, One, you're not completely lost. You're not a loser and all of those things. Appreciate it. But I do understand that sentiment because, again, we're so in ourselves and internally. I'm a very internal person. And there are so many times where my friends from home or just somebody else through life has...
00:49:55
Speaker
um been so impressed by things that I've done that I can't even look at you know, like I don't see those things or i forget about those things in ways of like where I was as a kid. And it's like, yeah, you know, I've, I've at least done this this and this, and like, I should be proud of myself for those things.
00:50:17
Speaker
I know. We just like, I think the rule here is you have to get friends who are worse than you. And then you could always feel like you've accomplished more. And I made the wrong choice. I found highly achieving, smart people who are fucking lawyers and are like...
00:50:34
Speaker
doing good in the world and are like educators and whatever. And, you know, I just had to, we all have our part. We all play role. I know I'm a little jester clown. I help them. I think when they talked to they were like, okay,
00:50:48
Speaker
they're like, I'm a lawyer. I feel good. yeah Yeah. I'm sad. Thank you. Still like in LA, huh? Still enjoying it. That's cool. I'm over here saving lives.
00:51:00
Speaker
That's cool. I not. They would never say that. No, they're very kind people. um Okay. Why don't we do one more? don't you give me one more? One more, baby. Yeah.
00:51:11
Speaker
Okay. This is one more. This is, this is for me. This is for me. Gay men who don't like to talk about vagina.
00:51:22
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Like, okay. They go like, you know, anytime you talk about. Yeah. Yeah. i That is a a subsector of the gay community for sure.
00:51:34
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um Am I supportive of that? No. isn um Do I, as a gay person, understand the root of it Kind of. But can it be handled in a different way? 100%. Yeah.
00:51:52
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um Yeah, I think we're we're beyond that, you know, that
Maturity and Acceptance in Society
00:51:58
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feels very. Exactly. me, I don't know, to me, I was like, okay, that was like a thing back in like high school, maybe college. But um I feel like you you you grow out of that.
00:52:10
Speaker
I feel like it's super duper immature. We all were born. we all ostensibly have mothers. Most of us have sisters, friends who are females. Like to say ew about that is like very pointed.
00:52:27
Speaker
And also like... You're part of the problem. You're part of the problem. It's like, I don't see anyone being like, ew, like, like, you know, dicks. I mean.
00:52:39
Speaker
Who's saying ew dicks that you know in your life? I was i feel, yeah I mean, not a lot, but I know that some people react to dicks in that way. Are they lesbians?
00:52:49
Speaker
Yeah. They have the right to. They've suffered. Lesbians, you're allowed to say whatever you want. You have suffered. yeah i give you a pass. i No, I just find like we should all just stop being like ill about people's bodies, period. Period. Period. Period. period I specifically talk about gay men because I have gay men in my life who go who do that. And I constantly have to be like, you have to stop.
00:53:10
Speaker
Like you have. It's not OK for you to go ill. Like, it's not cool that you're like, I'm a gold star gay or like I'm a platinum gay. I'm like, congratulations. You were born through a cesarean section and you're like, pat you on the back for that. Like you did nothing. Actually, you caused your mother pain by fucking coming out of her in a weird way. So fuck you, bitch.
00:53:31
Speaker
Sorry. I get very angry at that. Yeah. Yeah. No, I, I understand. I mean, it's like, it's, It's like almost making a personality trait out of something that like does not need to be that. It's the Benson Boone flip. It's like we get it. We get it. You're gay. You like penis.
00:53:53
Speaker
You don't have to so much onto the other end. Exactly. Be like I'm so grossed out by anything otherwise. I'm so gay. Vaginas gross me out. I'm like actually the gayest thing you can do
00:54:11
Speaker
is like vagina. The gayest thing you could do is like a vagina because very feminine. It's very puss. It's very puss. Thank you. um So like, get it together.
00:54:23
Speaker
Gents, get it together. Yeah. Get it together. Gay Come on. Stop being completely grossed out by vaginas. They're very important and they're more powerful than ever.
00:54:34
Speaker
So just let it go. And those of you who are looking to um have sex with a female vagina, you know, let me know.
00:54:45
Speaker
I'm over there. we Maybe we could change minds. She's here. She's got one. Yeah. I'm willing to help. Don't get it twisted. Yeah. Don't mix it up with something else. That thing's not in business. for sale. Not for sale yet.
00:54:58
Speaker
We'll see how the next two months of unemployment goes. And then after that, we'll we'll decide. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Understood. Back page. Back door back page. Mm-hmm. backstage backstage.
00:55:10
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Okay. one more Um, last one I have a perfect question for you. what a way to end this pod. All ears. Um, if we had to evacuate Los Angeles, uh, are you going south, north to the ocean or to the mountains?
00:55:29
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For what reason? What is the reason we're evacuating? That's important to Well, because Iran is retaliate retaliating.
00:55:39
Speaker
Oh, so like a real life situation. Yeah. god Yeah. I actually just I was like I was like zombie apocalypse. No, no. yeah Iran. No, i I'm using this five minutes to pre plan and in get away. So first of all, I have a shift pod. That's that's right away. You need to find me because we have shelter and it is specifically for winter and summer.
00:55:59
Speaker
So it is a great tent to have. I have all the supplies need. I also have an air conditioner. I also have like a portable one for the tent. If we have electricity at that point, if we don't throw it out, sell it, whatever. I personally believe mountain.
00:56:13
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I say mountain. Uh, mountain is an at advantage because it is high up. So you could see down high up is always an advantage military wise, as they say.
00:56:25
Speaker
So I would say mountain. Um, and yeah, I'm, I'm going mountain. Okay. Oh, you think we're going to get get bombed? You think we're going to get bombed, huh? um We're not getting bombed. They can't fucking reach us? What are you talking about? Who can't?
00:56:43
Speaker
Iran? They don't have bombs. They might not, but doesn't mean someone else doesn't help them out. The only ones that could get us is China. Okay. And they're not going to do it because our businesses are completely intertwined.
00:56:56
Speaker
No one's going to fuck it. Dude, no one's going to do it. I'm telling you, no one's going to. I know. I'm saying that we could cut all this out. I'm just telling you, like, listen, if it happens, you won't remember it. I'll tell you that much. If it happens, it happens.
00:57:12
Speaker
And until then, there's no need to worry because they truly cannot reach us here. Like, only China really could. New York, that's another question. They're a little closer over there. Yeah. ah People are worried.
00:57:23
Speaker
Actually, Thomas was just talking on the phone with me and he was saying ah he was at home and it's raining right now in New York. And there was like a big, like bright, like thunder thing that happened. And he was like, it's just thunder, whatever. And then Lucy texted him going, did you also just think that was a nuke? And I was like, guys, we got to, we got to like, everyone needs to we all need to,
00:57:48
Speaker
Relax. No, not relax. We all need to take this in stride and just know that if it happens, you're not going to know what happened.
00:57:59
Speaker
Great. um And that's been our pod ah for this episode of ah dumb and dumber. um Keep safe. Keep your friends safe.
00:58:12
Speaker
Yes. Call your mom. Call your dad. Call your siblings. Yeah. um Don't let anyone put anything ass if you don't want. All of those things. Yeah. Keep an eye out. Keep an ear out. Chain yourself to a tree.
00:58:24
Speaker
yeah Now more than ever. A tree high up in the mountains. Yeah. Preferably. Just have a little escape kit ready. Just have a little, just get get a little cooler. Put in some supplies, some food, some water, ah hand crank radio, hand crank radio, you know, USB sun batteries, but but ah solar batteries that are charged by the sky, the sun.
00:58:49
Speaker
All good things. Portable DVD player.
00:58:53
Speaker
Sun 10, Lotion. Game Boy. Game Switch 2! A Switch 2! A Switch 2! um Just in time. ah all Alrighty. Well, thanks, y'all. This has been us, ah your lovely hosts, ah Dasha and Anya.
00:59:10
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Anya and Dasha. Have a safe rest of your month, and we love you, and be nice to each other while we watch the world. Burr. Happy 4th of July. oh my God. I forgot. I forgot it's 4th of July.
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my God. I forgot it's 4th of July. Jesus.