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Episode 025: Queer Art, Heated Rivalry, The Word Paper Clip
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Happy New Year Ya Filthy Animals! Your favorite hosts Anya B Hynz and Dasha are back in 2026 and are better than ever. We get to chatting about queer scary art hung over all Dasha’s room, Heated Rivalry rotting our little brains, and introduce a new game that is problematic but we are skipping over that.
Dom and Dommer is about two friends who talk about everything under the sun and over the moon. We're not only global, we're interstellar. We're also local. Right at your backdoor. We talk about the dumb and the profound. The high and low. So strap in and strap on.
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Transcript
Setting the Scene: Los Angeles in December
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Speaker
The fact that this is the setup right now is sitting across from each other with a a virtual fireplace going. It's December in Los Angeles. We need fire. I mean, it feels like a fireplace is going. Oh my God. The AC is not working, everybody. I've been trying for the last half hour to try to get it to work. I've changed the batteries in the little box thing. flipped the breaker. I flipped the breaker. Nothing.
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Speaker
Okay. Nothing.
Season Three Launch and Future Goals
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Speaker
we're We're officially in season three now. Yeah, yeah season three. yeah Welcome to season three of Dom and Domer.
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Speaker
Wow, year three. we have any um goals or resolutions? Well, I think we talked about it in the last episode, making this more um Dom and Domer. Oh, we're gonna because I have a show we need to talk about. Yeah. Crazy. What a year.
00:01:06
Speaker
Is it a good year? do Do you are you a numerology person? Like, do you know if 26 has any kind of significance? No. You know, I would have thought that 2025 would have been a good year, but um it wasn't. Why would it be a good year?
00:01:21
Speaker
I think because I'm just like, ooh, it's divisible by five, I guess. So I'm like the same way that you'd be like, it's my 40th birthday. It's my 45th birthday. But i might not say that for like your 43rd birthday or 46th birthday. I say for every birthday, I go, it's my birthday. Everyone get excited. and everyone's like, you have to stop. After 10, no one cares. No, no, no. After 30, no one cares.
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Speaker
Okay. 30 is like the last big one. That is so sad. And then 50. And then, you know, after that, they're just happy you're alive. So every couple of years
Party Recap and Recovery Strategies
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Speaker
they're excited. Yeah. I saw something recently about that, about like, oh, I'm, I'm in my 30s. Like my birthday celebrating is just going to dinner. And I'm like, okay, I guess I still like to do something. Same.
00:02:12
Speaker
I still do. And I still will. Cause I don't care. I'm happy to be alive and I'm happy to be on this earth. So. It's a reason to have have a party, to have fun. That's right. Just like last night at the ah and our little Lord of the Rings disco. You know, really just a ah a reason to get together and and have fun. We were in and out of the movie.
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Speaker
And i am i am today feeling so... Ran through say more Yeah I think um Trying to have a party that starts at 11am And then Pretty much partying until 11pm And being out at that that Disco Until I think like 1230 Yeah i am I smoked so much I drank so much fuck yeah You know when you when you've done that all day So by the evening you You're just kind of numb
00:03:07
Speaker
Yes. Yes. But at that point, I usually i usually go and take like a power nap and then come, you know, it's like a... um' I've never done that not at like a festival or something where it's like four days in a row where I know that I don't have anything the next couple of days. So it's like I can go that hard and then I'll sleep it off and then the next day I could go hard again. Like this was, I think, a bigger feat because you have to go back to like the real world after. Yeah. Yeah. I see what you mean. Yeah.
Beach Plans and Reflection on Resolutions
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Speaker
Like this is probably a little fucked up to say, but like I miss being able to have more opportunities to like have like a completely dead weekend where I can like take shrooms and have that be like my Saturday and then have like Sunday as like kind of a chill recouping day from from that.
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Speaker
And I haven't had that in like what feels like Yeah. I haven't had that in like two years, I think. yeah Yeah. You know, I feel like I keep finding myself never being able to be fully turned off. Like I was like that with work, whatever. 2026. We're going to we're going to do shrooms on the pod. We're going to go out again in nature. and Children in nature. Children in nature and tear it up. You know, my thing I've never actually done shrooms.
00:04:27
Speaker
I've only done like shroom chocolate. yeah okay yes i remember this the shroom chocolates work well think they do i'm pretty good dosage you know i thought that you'd take enough also another resolution we gotta go to the beach i feel like we talked about going to the beach yeah um it's actually the perfect time to go is january yeah yeah in los angeles that's the best time Yeah, it will be pretty comfy. Well, maybe windy. Maybe that's the only rough thing. But it would be kind of a nice, comfy, casual. Do you like going to beach side towns even during cooler months? Yes, I love it.
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yeah I think the beach is beautiful. I definitely have not taken advantage of living in a beach
Laguna Beach Adventures and Hauntings
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Speaker
city. and i think it's just it is really pretty i like the shacks i like the seafood i like all the nautical stuff i think it's very relaxing um i would probably go maybe south like not like malibu i think i would go down like maybe the oc or something or like you know just like i want to see some beaches over there like in beachside towns over there yeah how far south how far do you want to go babe
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Speaker
Well, I'm just curious, like, are like are you picturing, like, Laguna are you picturing, you know, San Diego? Well, yeah, like, the OC. isn't the Oh, the OC. Okay, so. Okay, yeah. So kind of just like. Yeah, I've never been to Laguna and i would I would like to go just to see all the spots from the show.
00:05:59
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You've never been to fucking Laguna Beach. No, never been to fucking Laguna Beach. Okay. You're going to take me? Yeah. Oh my God. I think I'm going to be taken. I'm going to be taken. I'm going to be taken to Laguna. Like that movie. I watched that. They have a taken two. Yeah. There's like six of them. Okay. He keeps losing his daughter. Every single time. I'm like girl, how are going to get lost so many times? Put her in a padded room or something. Put an air tag on that bitch. Jesus Christ. An air tag. She like keeps trusting people. i'm like, stop trusting people. Clearly this girl cannot be trusted in public.
00:06:31
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Padlock. And she should know better. She should. February or March, we should drive down to Laguna and spend a night.
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ah Spend a night in Laguna. We could do it. A night in Wait, should we find like a haunted place down there? i mean, i'm ah I'm completely down. I don't know how many haunted places there are in Laguna. Yeah. You think they're too happy to have ghosts?
00:06:57
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's a little too um Anglo-Saxon. You're right. You're right. We got to go somewhere horrible. Yeah. Where there's trauma. With trauma. Exactly.
00:07:07
Speaker
yeah Exactly. Not enough trauma there. Oh, my God. um But no, if you haven't been, i i love it down there. And um last time my family, last time my my mom and my stepdad came down,
00:07:22
Speaker
I drove them to Laguna and we stayed there for a couple nights and they loved it, but they were, it was just so funny. Cause it was like, this is kind of what people think of l LA slash California when it's just like these pockets, you know, in the area and sometimes very far away. Like Laguna is like two hours sometimes.
00:07:45
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And, uh, I'm like, yeah, of course, this is a nice, rich seaside town that is known for being a little bougier than other places. That's like a more recent development.
00:07:58
Speaker
Like in the early 2000s, it still wasn't what it is now. During the hills? ah um Laguna Beach. Laguna Beach. Because the hills is... After.
00:08:09
Speaker
And that is l LA? Yes, that's l LA, LA. Like they're talking about the Hollywood Hills. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. yeah I don't think there are Hills. oh no, maybe there are. I again, never been. So maybe there are Hills. In Laguna.
00:08:21
Speaker
It's awesome Yes. Before you go into Laguna beach, you go through Laguna Hills. I can't wait. I can't wait for us to go now. And we're going to have a cute, we'll, we'll find, we'll try to find like a haunted little boutique hotel of some sort. Great.
00:08:34
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um and that would that will be great then we can knock all of that out we can do the recording there either at the beach or at like our haunted hotel room perfect all of our dreams and when catch a ghost um on mic what do we ask that ghost we go hey are you dommer dommer and we'll see what the ghost says knock twice for dommer yeah that will be imagine if that happened just now in here and then you find out you're this new place is haunted Please don't say that. I haven't smudged. I haven't smudged this place.
00:09:05
Speaker
You said you were gonna. You have me here. I should have brought. I had i have like ah my whole toolkit. I should have. um I should have brought it. down yeah Yeah, I've got two different smudgers. Okay. And what is the difference between them? And which one would you use? One is what like white sage. And the other one is like, I think juniper. Why it gotta be white?
00:09:24
Speaker
It's, you know, it's from the desert. The white desert? Yeah, lots of sun. It's sun bleached. Okay. Yeah. yeah And which one would you use here?
00:09:35
Speaker
I don't know. you just smell the air to see which one? Yeah, just trying to smell the air to see because I honestly, I forgot now. I'm more just concerned. I'm like, you know, am I being infected by the evil spirits? There's only good vibes here. With all of your, with like your chaotic art on the wall all over. I would have to say art is exquisite.
00:09:54
Speaker
It is. It's exclusive art. It is But I would say, like, if if someone were to walk in here, they'd be, like, kind of terrifying. Well, the describe disrifying describe to people what's so terrifying.
Art and Unique Living Spaces
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What about this could possibly be terrifying? All right. Well, in in just a few words, ah when you walk into Dasha's room, there's so several art depicting devils. Okay, first of all, some of them depict ghosts and devils.
00:10:19
Speaker
Some of those same ones involve melting eyeballs. Okay. and then across the room more devil work but this time feminist
00:10:32
Speaker
Okay, I'll break it down. I will say, yeah I mean, these two pieces with the ghosts and the melting eyes and the devil, that's a queer illustrator artist from Canada, Puppy Teeth, who's quite brilliant. And these are two of his originals. And then on the other side is Polly Noor, who is another illustrator, but from the UK. I'm not sure she's queer or not, but it is feminist. And it is a um a depiction of women taking off their skin suits basically to be their real selves. Yeah.
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i i could say I could see why a bunch of pictures of skin suits hanging off of hangers and you know a little devil the creature unzipping themselves would be alarming to some. But some people would be really into it, I think. Yeah, no, some people are are definitely into it. And yes, it is clear that these women are are unzipping their bodies to reveal like their demon body underneath. yeah And um there's a message there.
00:11:33
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There's a message. And it's also, yeah, quite terrifying. um And you know what? I didn't put up. I have one piece of artwork downstairs. It's this I forget her name with Ruth something. But it's a big photograph that this photographer took of a woman being catcalled severely in Italy. And it's one of those disturbing things I've ever seen. And it's so big. And I was going to hang in in my room, but I don't think I'm going to know.
00:11:54
Speaker
No, I think you should. Would it fit? Would it fit up there? Would it fit up in this corner by this by your staircase or bedroom staircase, mind you? Yes, I have a staircase leading to my bathroom. So every time I come out of my bathroom, I do a little like, yeah hello, greet, like, and what's that musical?
00:12:11
Speaker
Don't cry for me, Argentina. Yes. ohlthough i buy i was Don't worry, I was gonna say Velveeta.
00:12:19
Speaker
Well, you know that musical about Velveeta? Where she comes out in the balcony. Don't cry for me. Velveeta? Velveeta. Yeah. Don't cry for me, Velveeta. Velveeta. You're melting on all my noodles. Yes. Maybe when you turn off the bathroom light because you're leaving the bathroom. That triggers it to turn on. And so then you open the door. Light comes on. i am the shit.
00:12:40
Speaker
You walk out, ok but give a pose, and then you walk down these three steps that are just enough that when you're elderly will be hella a problem. You think I'm going to be here when I'm elderly?
00:12:52
Speaker
Girl, it's getting tougher and tougher to move around, so who knows? Maybe you maybe you're going to want to sit sit here for for a minute. It's getting tougher and tougher to move around. Yeah. You're right. But at that point, me and you are going to be in a commune with all our friends. And it's all going to be a ground floor.
00:13:07
Speaker
Ground floor. One floor, yeah. With lots of ramps. Absolutely. Yeah. and And we're all going to be on rollerblades. Mm-hmm. Just being pushed around. Yeah. Or you know those like um on ski on ski mountains and stuff, they have that like, um you they kind of like just takes you up like an escalator for your skis. Yeah, we'll get that. Which I'm sure you've seen that like ride it in like Europe or something that people have to, you have to take that like rampy thing and everyone just like eats shit when
European Fair Dangers and Childhood Memories
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Speaker
they go to stand on it. No. This like constantly moving conveyor belt and you have to like quickly jump on at the bottom
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Speaker
And it lifts you up. But it's going so fast and most people can't brace themselves in the right way that like you get to step on it and like the momentum just knocks them back on their ass. And it's and you just see these like um ah compilations of.
00:14:06
Speaker
people eating shit on this like it's not you it's you see many compilation i've never once seen that you're searching that out you're googling people eating shit on mountains i can't wait to find it again and and send it to you please do it looks like some like you know one of those traveling like a a fair like a traveling whatever but you know how like in europe there seems to be more of those kind of going around i didn't know that they have traveling fairs in europe Yeah, like the same way that we have ours, where it's like the rides can be like, oh a some you know, um yeah, like, collapsed. I'm never going there.
00:14:43
Speaker
Those things are not safe. I am not going on those. I've seen videos of, um you know, the big ones that are like, it almost looks like a Ferris wheel. And there was one that was tipping over and half the crowd to run and freaking stand on top of it. So when I'm like, this is a joke. What this is, these people are going to die.
00:15:02
Speaker
ah Yes, but supposedly they're they're made by the same manufacturers that make the you know theme park rides that don't collapse. you know that are Yeah, but the the problem is that they don't disassemble and reassemble them again. i think that's where the problems come in. When you have to take something down, put it back up, you get lazy, you don't tighten something, you forget to, you lose a bolt here and there. You're like, it'll be fine. Yeah?
00:15:28
Speaker
You think it'll be fine? True. There we go. Then we then we see these videos. Yeah, know the exact one you're talking about. Yeah. Which, yeah, clearly I'm getting fed a lot of these because then there's that one where it's like spinning and the person dressed as like the scary nun is in the middle dancing. you ever see those? I see those. Yes. Yeah. So, you know, I use I wanted to go to one so bad.
00:15:49
Speaker
Maybe that's why I have a fear of them. When I was a little kid, I went to one that was in our park by the Bronx Zoo. And i think it's there every year. But I went when I was really young. And I went with my grandma. And I went into the funhouse in there.
00:16:05
Speaker
And i was like walking around looking. at It was so funny. And then I saw my grandma. i'm like, OK, I'm going to leave. and i like ran towards my grandma glass straight up smacked my little fucking face up against that thing almost got a concussion i was so embarrassed because other people saw it was embarrassing and then i like got out and i was like you know thank god people you know cell phones and all that stuff wasn't like as prevalent at the time this would have been a viral video little dumb kid face first into glass at a local fair
00:16:37
Speaker
well Well, it's... that I mean, that's the whole point of a mirror maze, you know? It's to have children smack their faces in it. Really? Yeah. that's the That's the fun. a fun house. Yo.
00:16:49
Speaker
Y'all are evil people in this country. Y'all are evil. Okay. We digressed a lot, but I still remembered something from earlier about... um ah Well...
00:17:03
Speaker
I forget what what exactly exactly you said, but I felt like it was going into heated rivalry territory. Oh my God. Don't get me started.
Break Preparations and Podcast Rivalries
00:17:11
Speaker
Exactly. So I feel like ah let's let's take a quick second break. And then when we get back into this, we need to get into all of that. Okay. A bit more. It's going to be a very long.
00:17:22
Speaker
Oh gosh. Okay. Hard situation. Okay. We're going to take a break. Okay. Okay. Bye. Bye.
00:17:41
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okay you're back you're back look at this while you poop um we're about to talk yeah wait so did yesterday were you watching you were in a hockey uniform so two or three years ago my mom i don't know why but she sent me three hockey jerseys One of them was like USSR Jersey. The other one was from my hometown Kazan. It's um the hockey team from there. And my favorite animal is a snow leopard. And that's their symbol. It has like this winged snow leopard. It's like they're very cool their mascot. So I have two uniforms from like the hockey team that has that and one that's like the USSR hockey jersey.
00:18:25
Speaker
And I'm like, what am I fucking going So it's lived under my hamper, like underneath all my clothes in my hamper for years. In the move, I was like, why do I throw him out? and Like, I can't throw him out. It's my. I was just going to say. What I get. Yes. Oh, my God. And then with this new show that's come out.
Heated Rivalry Show Analysis
00:18:43
Speaker
heated rivalry where I'm frothing at the mouth at the show. i was like, this is perfect. I have hockey jerseys and I've never been to a single hockey game. So this is the only time I'm going to be able to wear these.
00:18:56
Speaker
So I wore it because, you know, I'm supporting my man, Ilya. Yeah, yeah, I love that You looked good in it thanks you You wearing that made me want a hockey jersey So I'm glad you haven't thrown them out Do you want to borrow one? I might, I just might was just literally pulling on Because I love i love like ah a faux jersey moment Well, these are real jerseys Just faux as in i um I'm being a poser wearing god wearing it you know I mean, same I'm like, yeah what the fuck do i have to I literally have never been to a single game Right But I was like, listen, darling dears, I gotta.
00:19:31
Speaker
I can't get over. And I feel like we we got into heated rivalry in the last episode. So we don't have to get it into it too much. This is the craziest shit I've ever seen. Yes. Oh, my God. It's the craziest shit I've ever seen. I'm making Jordan watch it. I'm like making. Which is crazy. Oh, my God. I'm making everybody watch it.
00:19:48
Speaker
Crazy work. And I'm just getting I'm just getting the hot hottest scenes off of Twitter. Like it is chew die hockey everything now. Did you get the one from Friday's episode where where one of them rise the other one.
00:20:05
Speaker
Maybe, maybe not. I don't know if I, if that's young gentlemen are method acting their way through this goddamn show. I'm like, give them every award in America because I believe they're fucking. I believe they're absolutely fucking. And I've not seen that kind of chemistry in a show in a long time.
00:20:20
Speaker
Like maybe Outlanders the last time I saw two people that had like kind of chemistry, but not like this. This is like straight from like, you know, the L word and shit. Well, I was like watching ah an interview or some some sort of clip where they were talking about how like.
00:20:37
Speaker
oh, you know, where we've just become, like, so you know, best buddies and, like, kind of got rid of all that awkwardness from the get-go and just made it very, like, ah casual that that's why they're able to, like, do these scenes the way they they do them and everything. um And I think it's funny that they're, like, also, like, I don't know if it's just for the PR of the show whatever, but they're, like,
00:21:02
Speaker
kind of tropesing them around the the way that they did with like Glinda and Elphaba like it's like Cynthia and Ariana now it's like these two guys and they're being like brought to like West Hollywood and they're at high tops doing like ah a little talk back a little appearance the fact that they were there that night I lost my shit i lost my shit i was like I mean look like I think it's I don't really care about their private lives. Like it's not none of my business, really, like what they how they are. I'm trying to separate them from the show. I'm trying not to speculate about anybody's sexuality. I'm trying my best to just kind of let it let it be what it is. there is a part of me that's like every time i watch an interview i'm like i know i know which one's i know this one's gay i know this one's not gay i know they're and this is like my favorite because it's like a person who's an ally who's like down bad who's not embarrassed to be like seen as gay have sex with gay men like is comfortable in his own skin i'm like i've been waiting for this kind of man for so long in media and it's cool and i'm happy about it Like, I, like, when I watch Challengers and stuff, I was like, I'm pretty sure both of them are straight.
00:22:23
Speaker
Kind of. Yeah, okay. With these guys, I'm like, I'm pretty sure i know nothing. Jon Snow. This has to be cut. I feel so bad. No, um but, no. But um ah in the Challengers, because I didn't watch that either...
00:22:38
Speaker
do Do the two guys get as like hot and heavy with each other as as we're seeing in in heated rivalry? No, it's it's a lot more like implied.
00:22:49
Speaker
They do kiss. They make out. And there's a lot of like suggestion that they love each other like very deeply. And they would do that with each other if the opportunity presented itself. And there's like a scene in the sauna where one of them is like literally Just like... almost naked just like he's so hot um but no they never really have those kinds of scenes i mean this show is different this show is so explicit in that way i did not think it was gonna be that way i thought it was just gonna be like implied cut away from you know like like how they always do it yeah and most will get like making out maybe a hand sliding or something and then fade to black or whatever this show
00:23:33
Speaker
they cut back to different positions. They're having sex. It's like cut different position, cut different position. I'm like, this is how they film this on set. I want to know everything. I want to know about the the intimacy coordinator. I want to know how they were able to do that. How, how can you be that free with your body to like do that? i just was the set closed. Like I need to know all of the details of that. Cause that's like production wise. I'm interested how they shot those scenes. Yeah.
00:24:01
Speaker
Yeah. And then like they just have incredible chemistry with each other. I'm like, I think they love each other. It's so nice. Yeah. There's so again, as someone who has only seen bits and pieces, like even like the eye contact that they have with each other.
00:24:18
Speaker
i'm like, oh, my God. I think that's what catches me. Like, ah these are where these like clips are starting of like just like them staring at each other and like that is enough to yeah be like, oh, what's what's going on here? They're fully selling it. I mean, I'm I'm so impressed that the one that and I'm also like impressed by the guy that plays the Russian hockey player. This man, when I was watching the show, again, I knew nothing about the actors. I knew nothing about the show. So I'm watching the show and I'm like, I'm like, two things can happen. One, I'm going to get so bummed out because the Russian is going be so bad that I'm just going to be like taken out of it and whatever.
00:24:57
Speaker
The second thing is like, oh, wow, they cast a Russian person. Finally, I'm so excited. I'm like, wow, they must have cast a Russian person. His pronunciation is amazing. He speaks better Russian than some people I know who speak like Russian who are, you know, native Russian speakers.
00:25:12
Speaker
Look him up. He's from Texas. Not a Russian bone in his body. That is so funny. the He's just down bad for the language and is able to like even get the intonation correct. Like he sounds like someone who's Russian, who learned English, who is now speaking English with a Russian accent and is like putting the right emphasis on the right words.
00:25:37
Speaker
Like, this is incredible. Yeah. Which i'm I'm assuming took a lot of work. I'm assuming takes sickle dialect coaches and all of that. Apparently, he's like really good at languages. They're saying that he's really good at French and he like it just is really good at picking up other languages and accents. And I'm like, that is a gift. Yeah.
00:25:56
Speaker
I mean, yeah. And that is really convincing because with just like the way he looks and even like holds himself from what I've seen. I'm like, yeah, you're Russian.
00:26:07
Speaker
I thought he was Russian. Yeah. Even like in the last episode, he's like he does this thing where he like counts one, two and he holds up his fingers how Russian guys do when they count one, two. And I was like, this is crazy.
00:26:19
Speaker
Like, I've never seen that before. thank freaking out and i'm like trying to keep it together and then like i'm trying not to be triggered by all these storylines about like overbearing fathers who don't support their children i'm like trying to keep it together but i'm like i understand where his trauma is coming from i get exactly why he is the way that he is i'm like this is a the the craziest porno i've ever watched with the best storyline and obviously the books i've read the books and the books are you know it's like oh it comes from a book okay yeah it's a book series that they've adapted the book series is like just as explicit and it's just as you know it's like an erotic romance novel i wonder um i feel like someone's probably writing a piece on this but the fact that like popular culture and queer representation is
00:27:15
Speaker
having a wave of coming through the lens of, um, sports, you know? Um, whereas, like, let's say, like, okay, let's think about this for a second, because you'll, you'd actually be better at probably, well, obviously knowing more movies than I do.
00:27:34
Speaker
But if we're looking at, like, Brokeback, we look at Call Me By Your Name, we look at, uh, The challengers what's it called? Challengers. Challengers and then heated rivalry and we're looking at this as like a timeline like what
00:27:54
Speaker
what in history or like what in society is like making these shifts of how we're wanting to like view and represent you know at least I guess gay men more specifically.
00:28:08
Speaker
Well, I think for... There's a... and I might be wrong, but I think there's a level, and this is my own personal opinion, on it I think there's like a level of these spaces still being taboo, still being like unexplored, like sports is still considered to be masculine, it's still considered to be like very homophobic, it's like...
00:28:32
Speaker
There's like how many out NFL players are there? How many out NBA players are there? There's no out NHL players. Like this is just the truth of it. It's like these are still spaces where being gay is like not talked about, not allowed. Everyone's in the closet. And statistically, there's gay guys there. There's gay guys there for sure. So like I think...
00:28:54
Speaker
It's also a space where it's kind of the only place where men are allowed to show emotion, both the audience and the players. Like, look at how some men treat sports. They cry over them. They get angry over them. They, like, develop relationships with players. They, like, love teams. You know, they are, like, diehards for it. And when their team wins, they're sobbing with their kids. It's, like, very passionate So it's like when you combine a place that you are allowed to be emotional, but it's also like telling you you can't be gay because that's like feminine or whatever. It's a really interesting ground to explore in terms of like a gay romance or gay relationship between two men.
00:29:38
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Yeah. Because in women's sports, they're allowed to be gay. They're only talked about. Like, it's like in women's soccer, everybody knows who's out. Everybody knows who's dating. There's people on the same team that are dating. There's people that are on different teams that are playing against each other that are dating. And it's not a big deal.
00:29:53
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It's like people actually want that versus men's sports. It's like they do not want that. Right. Right. Yeah, that's true. I mean, in in the sense of, you know, lesbians in terms of sports and and that being just more normalized versus...
00:30:09
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Well, in general, women are allowed to be gay more in spaces like that than men. yeah So I see it. But yeah, I just, I'm, this show is like, I'm, I can't believe it's caught on like this. I still don't think straight people are really on it as much. Like, I think they're kind of hearing about it now. But it was like wild how my feed was all about the show. Everything was the show. And my friends were still like, what are you talking about? I've never, I'm like, it's the number one show on HBO. It's like. That is so funny that you say this because I can probably watch it now because I we had to like renew the HBO subscription to watch Lord of the Rings yesterday.
00:30:48
Speaker
And even if we get rid of it at the end of the month, I can at least binge some of Heated's. If you would like to, after we are done with this, to watch the pilot with me, I would watch it for the 17th time with you, think. I've now introduced it to at least four people. I've watched the pilot with at least four people. And I'm like, you, you, you. Okay. And okay.
00:31:16
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I will say I showed it to one of my friends. And it's not that she wasn't into it, but she wasn't like that into it. and it broke me. I was like, oh, you don't like this? Like, you're not like frosting at the mouth again. Like, you're not, crazy you know, I just realized like, oh, maybe this isn't like, I don't know. I was very surprised. I was like, everybody will find this fucking amazing. but Right. Well, but that's the thing. I mean, going back to our last episode, I, something like that, I will, that is where when I feel uncomfortable watching it with with like ah a friend or so or just anyone in general. right Here I am watching crazy porn with like a group of people.
00:31:57
Speaker
But this has story. But this has story and this has emotion. Yes. And ah I think it hits like heartstrings ah yeah a bit differently and a bit more intensely ah in a way where, yeah, like going back to like me trying to watch, ah read Call Me By Your Name at night. Like that's me alone reading and I couldn't even like pull myself together. Well, the moment you want to turn it off, we'll turn it off. Yeah. I'm going to make you, I'm not going make you watch it. I just think that it's like, um sometimes for me, it was easier to watch it with other people because then I didn't feel crazy. Because, like, I do find this crazy what I'm saying. I'm like, I cannot believe I'm saying this. Like, this is so cool that it's like I never get to see ah stuff I'm reading adapted because, like, I'm in a bunch of, like, romance book clubs and stuff. I've read all these books and it's like...
00:32:44
Speaker
I never thought they would get an adaptation that's mainstream. Usually they're like on those like, you know, apps on like TikTok that are like 30 second soaps. And it's like so ah bad. But this is like really well done and well shot. And all the people on it, I'm i'm like, they better be gay because some of the choices they're making in the lighting, in the setup. I'm like, y'all are really like putting things out. Like this is a really well made show.
00:33:13
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For the budget. I'm like, damn. Yes. Y'all really killed it. Work. Yeah. Heated rivalry. Yep. Me and Fish are going to go see a movie on Wednesday that I think stars the guy that plays Scott Hunter, Francois, whatever his name is. He plays like the older guy that's um the third episode is about. And...
00:33:36
Speaker
she like found out that his movie was, but she was going to get to it. So like, if he's there, we're going to, I'm going to freak out. I'm going to freak out if he's there. i don't know what I'll do myself. I'm like, I don't, I don't probably won't talk to him. She will.
00:33:49
Speaker
I know she will. She's so good. Um, and then like, have you heard, uh, Jordan Firstman's like whole thing about, he was like saying in an interview, he's like, that's not how gay people have sex. Like kind of trashed it a bit.
00:34:03
Speaker
No, i don't think I heard this. Yeah, he got a lot of heat for that. He like in an interview was like criticizing the show and saying that like that's not how gay men have sex or, you know, and a lot of people were kind of like,
00:34:17
Speaker
not agreeing with him and i think it could hurt his feelings like people are saying really mean things to him about whatever i think he's an incredible artist and like some of the things he has done like i love some of the um movies he's been a part of and he's like a really cool actor but i was like there's no need to trash talk these guys like they're currently like naked on television everyone's watching them like it must be really scary for them right now like let's just like let them settle before we start criticizing yeah that bo live in but the believability of this show yeah yeah and um especially them not being ah if they're if they're not gay if neither of them are gay or whatever and they're they're really putting themselves out there like
00:35:02
Speaker
you know, this is going to kind of mark their career and in such a way that they're like brave to do so. um And I mean, granted, i i'm so I'm curious on the details because I know I've said before, like, you know, i didn't I didn't want to watch that. Like, I don't know. It was something. It was like a gay romance on Netflix that came out. and Red, white and royal blue or whatever. No, no, no, no. they Love, Simon.
00:35:32
Speaker
Maybe it was Love, Simon. Yeah, didn't watch either. Or the other one. There was, like, another one. But... And I would kind of be like, yeah, this doesn't feel like... You know, this isn't, like, how a lot of gay relationships are. And this feels, like, very...
00:35:47
Speaker
glorified and kind of um fantastical in a way that's like not real to me so i get moments like that where i'm like this is too you know like they're both hot they're both like you know having these moments that feel so like you know uh
00:36:05
Speaker
picture book whatever I'm trying to say um like idealistic yeah yeah and it's like no it's like a lot messier and a lot like you know back and forth and just like different um and I think maybe in ah terms of like something like heated rivalry or whatever where part of the taboo-ness is the storyline or like part of what is being addressed is like something that
00:36:34
Speaker
is like unrealistic to begin with or like has like pieces of of like this isn't supposed to be happening. mean, they never directly talk about it, but they're both like two closeted.
00:36:46
Speaker
hockey players one is closeted because he's like russian and the other one's closeted because he's like half asian and also i guess it's just like worried about sponsorship but they kind of try to and emphasize the fact that it's they're not worried about the people knowing they're gay it's like knowing that they rivals and it would be really bad if they were sleeping together because people would question like the the efficacy of them playing against one another like when they give in or whatever like basically like throw a game so yeah it's just like all and I'm like so interested by that idea I'm like so they're trying to kind of skirt around the fact that it's not their identity that's the issue it's the fact that they're like teammates or they they're playing against each other that's a problem which is like yeah you know how much of that do I really
00:37:37
Speaker
Because, like, there's people that are friends that play against each other. You know, it's what you can't imagine. Or, like, brothers. There's, like, there's entire, like, Travis Kelsey and his brother, you played the Super Bowl against one another. And nobody was, like, but I guess it's because they weren't directly playing against one another. I don't know. I just think that it's, like, um... Well, I mean, I... i believe it like i like having a a love affair is different than your friends or your brothers in a way that like I don't know I look at that as like different in a in terms of like a career or something especially a career where you're like players um versus I mean like yeah I know you were saying earlier like women on soccer teams will be dating and have to like play against each other
00:38:25
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um And I guess, yeah, these are it's still teams. Because like now I'm thinking, you know, it's like what to me would be like a sport where it's like, oh, we don't want our relationship to...
00:38:40
Speaker
you know, um, come out because of like that, the rivalry of it all would be like tennis where you're like one-on-one. And I keep thinking, cause I forgot that like, it's called heated rivalry because they're probably rivals. Like I, I was not even remembering that they're probably like against each other. Um, but at least you're on a team.
00:39:01
Speaker
So it's like, whatever, like you can't throw the game because you're just one person. Like that'd be pretty obvious if you were just like ignorantly not doing something. Um, That's why I think it's like, it's, it definitely is like the closet sports thing. And I like find it so interesting, but it's like,
00:39:18
Speaker
I'm just i'm excited to hear what you think about it. I'm excited what your opinion of the show is because I'm like, I'm just so glad that there's something so entertaining that's catching everybody's attention that's like gay and unapologetically gay about it. um And I love that.
00:39:33
Speaker
And I'm like so happy that we have this show. I also like, you know, the conversation is like, should we know the sexuality of the actors who are portraying these characters whatever, whatever? And I'm like, look.
Actor Authenticity and Method Debates
00:39:45
Speaker
If this was like a award-winning documentary about... Keith Haring or whatever, like a popular real person who was gay and he's being played by a straight actor.
00:40:00
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Then I'm like, well, maybe the person should have been gay probably who played him. This is two hockey players banging each other's brains out for four episodes so far. I'm okay if they're not gay because what they're doing on screen, bravo. You're selling the shit out of this. you If you're not gay, I saw someone tweet it. It was like this comedian was like If they're not gay, they're method. Like, I don't know what to tell you. Like, if they're not actually gay, these two people are method acting because it's psychotic what they're doing.
00:40:28
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Yeah. One of the actors lives in WeHo and was, like, talking about body image and how, like, it's horrible for men in WeHo and, like, how people, like, are terrible. He's like, so I was almost prepared for this because I live in WeHo and, like, the way people treat men's bodies is, like, awful. was like, hmm, interesting.
00:40:45
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See you.
00:40:47
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Um, okay, well, yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited for the success of the show as well. um Love when people get excited over things like this. um Do we want to take a break and then go into some fun, fantastical things? Let's do it.
00:41:18
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All right, everybody. Welcome back.
Gender Attributes of Inanimate Objects
00:41:21
Speaker
Welcome back. is We had to cool things down a little bit. got so heated. um The rivalry really heated between It has gotten, ah let's just say...
00:41:38
Speaker
warm the ac is still broken things have not changed i'm so sorry i even put a fan directly yeah on your ass yeah do you want it to be has been nice do you want it to be bigger i am no i'm i'm so good it's probably probably better for the the sound anyway yeah maybe whatever yeah um We were out in the wilderness, so yeah we can go anywhere.
00:42:03
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um Okay, so we're going to play a game. Dasha, what do you think this game should be called? i want this to be called B-O-I or G-U-R-L.
00:42:17
Speaker
B-O-I or G-R-U-L. Okay. Like boy or girl. Again, can you, I cannot think of this. This hard for Maybe it's called Girl Boy. Girl Boy. Okay, great. This is like Girl Bye. this is really good Girl Boy. So we're about to play Girl Boy. Perfect. And you're probably wondering, what what could this game entail? Well. Uh-huh.
00:42:46
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We have some objects, some some innate inanimate objects as people would say, and we're going to decide, is that a girl? there's a boy where is that a boy? And you know what? There is room for the in-betweens, okay? As there are in life. So if we're feeling moved that that this particular object is somewhere on the spectrum um and doesn't you know ah find themselves within the gender binary that um society has created, we will also discuss that as well. Yeah. I'm willing to be wrong and I'm willing to be persuaded. So that's where I'm at.
00:43:28
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h um Okay. First one. Yes. A paper clip. Ooh.
00:43:39
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Girl. Yeah. Girl. Brings together, bring things together. Useful. um If we're talking about like word, the little paperclip person on there, that was like non-binary for sure, but I feel like I lean more towards femme.
00:43:56
Speaker
Okay. Yeah, i could I could see that. um Yeah, if if not for just the The swirly yet strong and stiff appearance of a paperclip.
00:44:14
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um The usefulness. um You know, the uncanny ability to completely change what said paperclip is being used for, you know.
00:44:33
Speaker
um Versatile in that way. Versus top. Versus top, yeah. um Yeah, yeah, okay. I can i can dig with femme. So it's like besides everything you just listed, agree with me?
00:44:51
Speaker
Besides 13 reasons why No, yes no well like yeah. No, I'm i'm like, I'm i'm building on on your thoughts of like. Brick by brick, baby. yeah Yeah, yeah. And i can i can see all of I can see all of that. Did you initially think it was boy?
00:45:07
Speaker
I really didn't know. i I wrote it down thinking, oh, this is a good one because I i couldn't tell i couldn't tell you But I think you convinced me. and And yeah yeah, I think there's, if anything, you know, this also could be one where I'm like, maybe it's somewhere on the spectrum. Exactly. I'm like, it could be somewhere on the spectrum. Yeah. Because I'm not feeling set. swirly yet stiff thing really got me to go, oh, maybe it is more towards center.
00:45:33
Speaker
Because, like, there's, like, inherent flamboyancy and, like, kind of, like, a a femme touch to the way... The swirl. You know, a paperclip is manufactured. um But at the same time, it kind of has these rigid pieces about it that lean towards, like, masculine in a way. A pointy end. But then also you could put them on your fingers to make them nails. Right. So you see it's... And they're strong, but like not too strong. not too strong. You can bend them. They can break. Yeah. Oh, beautiful. Love that.
00:46:06
Speaker
Okay. That was a good one. All right. Yeah. come In the comments, tell us what you think. Yeah. What do you think? Paperclip somewhere in the middle or. boy girl, middle. You know.
00:46:18
Speaker
A flag. A flag. Any type of flag. Flag. Flag.
00:46:28
Speaker
A flag to me feels more masculine. Definitely masculine leaning. Do you think it's because it could be at like half-mast? ah Okay. um Well, maybe subconscious subconsciously there's something about like a flag usually being like erect, you know, on a pole.
00:46:49
Speaker
um I also feel like a flag is symbolic of like, see this. i'm at ah i'm attention I'm at attention and, you know, I want you to know my opinion and thoughts yeah with the type flag I am. She's very masculine to want everyone to know what your opinion is.
00:47:09
Speaker
right exactly um which it could be a red flag it could be a green flag it could be a patriotic flag of some sort it's or it's repping your team all kind of give mask energy i feel fully agree fully agree with that okay i would say flag is masculine yeah boy okay okay
00:47:33
Speaker
Yeah, maybe it's more... I mean, we're we're pretty much getting at this, but it it does feel like we're just deciding whether something is more masculine or feminine. Yeah, that's okay.
00:47:46
Speaker
Okay. A bowl of pasta. I like that it's not pasta. It's specifically a bowl of pasta. A bowl of pasta.
00:48:02
Speaker
Okay, I'm gonna say it's it's feminine. it's It's woman because it's like you splurp it. Like you gotta go like, like that action is a little like, you know, like Okay. That, I also think it's like kind of slippery and wet most of the time, you know, it's like cooked. Okay. think it's a little bit more free, a little bit more free and loose and loopy and like kind of swirly.
00:48:24
Speaker
And the bowl aspect, I mean, bowl, like carrying something, a bowl is very like, you know, the shape, like the triangle or whatever, upside down triangle, that's very, that's like a womb.
00:48:35
Speaker
ah so I'm going to give a girl, a bowl of pasta girl. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, okay Wow, you really convinced me because I was thinking more masculine wow for some reason But I think I i was getting hung up on like fettuccine and prosciutto and um what's that green shit? So anything but actual pasta Yeah, the things that you would incorporate in in the said pasta Which is very masculine, you know, it be to be like anything but this thing That is so funny Wait, what's that green stuff again?
00:49:10
Speaker
ah Pesto? Pesto. Pesto feels very yeah masculine. Because you have to like smush it and you have to like hit it in order to make goopy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's very masculine. But now with what... The way you talked about pasta, I'm like, holy shit. Is a bowl of pasta...
00:49:27
Speaker
A pussy? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Macaroni in a pot. Mm-hmm. That's a wet ass. Wet marinara. Wet ass marinara. Yeah. Wet ass marinara. Mm-hmm. Yeah. um I feel like a...
00:49:42
Speaker
bowl of pasta is feminine as a basket of fries is masculine. Correct. Now, in yes in the way that you have shown me this, this is how I'm looking at it If this was an SAT question and this was like a logic problem, absolutely, that would be it. Yeah, if it were if it was like, what were yeah, those were tough in in school. Never took the SATs. This is to this as that is to what? And you're like, what the fuck? I don't give a shit. Yeah. yeah I know. I didn't think about that. Wow, but that is very that.
00:50:10
Speaker
Okay. Okay. I'm glad we talked that out. Very important. Listen, we got it. These are things we got to know. It's important that we know. good Okay. Salt.
00:50:23
Speaker
Oh, this one. This one is tough because I'm a blues clues generation. Oh, you're thinking of the shaker.
00:50:33
Speaker
Yeah, kinda. I was just thinking of the act. Just salt. Like just loose salt. Loose salt. But yeah, my brain can't help but go there. And I freak now I'm way I'm like, was salt the woman or the man in Blue's Clothes?
00:50:48
Speaker
Salt and pepper. Pepper was probably the boy was the boy. Right. And this is how I but even in even in its unvesseled form, I feel like.
00:51:02
Speaker
my god wait now no you're tripping me up now because i'm like wait is salt more masculine yeah i this is i'm gonna give this to you okay i'm gonna give you my thought on this and you tell me what you think i think salt is non-binary i think salt could go either way fluid actually then i'll say salt is fluid because salt bay, you know, chuck it on some fucking meat. That's like super masculine, adding it like on top, like a salty flake on top of like a chocolate chip cookie, a little feminine. Like, uh, you get the salt in like a fancy jar or whatever. That's maybe a little bit more feminine. But then if you just go to the ocean, grab a bucket of water and make salt from that kind of masculine, it's like, It's just fluid, I think. And it goes with everything. It makes everything better, which means it doesn't matter. It's like it's it's non-discriminate non-discriminatory.
00:52:04
Speaker
hmm. I think it's fluid. And what do you think about Pepper then? Boy. Boy. Boy. You're making me sneeze? Yeah. Boy. Yeah. I want to do, in the new year, we're going to do like a sit-down style interview. With Pepper?
00:52:23
Speaker
No. Where I'm going to just be rattling these objects off and I need you to give me full synopses Pepper. Where you think the gender falls amongst this object. and i And I am the expert in the know it all on this. You know, I'm the one that people come to. It feels every time you go into your explanation, I'm like, wow, I never saw it that way before.
00:52:44
Speaker
um And yeah, I think it's so insightful. And I think you're actually you're you're opening up some new ways of of just thinking about the world. yeah i mean, i if I could if I could quote in sight.
00:53:01
Speaker
sprinkling salt on a steak, masculine, sprinkling salt on a chocolate chip cookie, kind of feminine, in an essay, like, that, those are words. Those, that's like, those are, that is, you know. That's factually true. Those are words. Like, like, like, Robert Frost was a person of our, of, you know, our earlier century. You are like.
00:53:27
Speaker
I'm. the rock frost of the 22nd century incredible yeah incredible yeah two roads you know less traveled and then dash of evanova salt on a cookie yes feminine yeah yeah well you really you really uh that's where my i was just like you could really put it in everything makes everything better and i think it like depends how you use it and it's very um fluid and is able to transform what to whatever needs to it Yeah.
00:53:56
Speaker
So I find it to be very much down the line in the middle. Yeah. Well, pepper, pepper showy fucking popping out of the ground, different colors. Like the redder it is, the like hotter it is. And it's like very into like color and, and size and heat. And it's like spiciness is also very masculine. Like how can you stand this pain? Yeah. you get pain with the flavor. It's like very masculine. so Except for, you know, Pepper's gay younger brother who only comes around the holidays, white pepper. White pepper. Love white pepper. gets used maybe in three different recipes. I use white pepper in everything.
00:54:35
Speaker
Oh my God. Yeah. Why? Because I like that it doesn't give a color. So I don't see little flex of something in my food. Love flex. Well, love when When my food then has black pepper flex in it, I'm like, complete. If I get the flavor without the flex, why would I need the flex?
00:54:55
Speaker
Okay. But see, white pepper seems like more mild. it's like It's like, oh, I want to get pepper flavor without like getting my ass kicked, which I'm like, okay.
00:55:07
Speaker
white pepper is the love simon of peppers yeah yeah yeah it's yeah the the gay younger brother that comes around during the holidays you're absolutely correct yeah didn't have to work hard at all for a day in his goddamn life yeah
00:55:22
Speaker
um okay wow okay i love this um okay ready for this next one floss oh floss
00:55:35
Speaker
floss that's my phone floss this is hard this one's a hard one
00:55:46
Speaker
to say masculine okay yeah yeah i want to say masculine i mean boy boy boy okay um okay
00:56:01
Speaker
Because it's okay. Here's my thinking. It's like they tell you have to do it every day. no one fucking does it every day. Twice a day What is that? It's like that it's like all these recommendations and stuff and like no one does it.
00:56:13
Speaker
Which sounds which I feel is very boy. To like you're being told to do something you don't. Interesting. I am. I feel like.
00:56:26
Speaker
floss i feel like classic floss that comes in like a roll that you pull feminine i feel like the floss that comes in a pick form that's like pre-made masculine guess which one i have it on my bathroom The pics.
00:56:42
Speaker
Yeah. I have both actually, but yeah. Yeah. I have both. Because I feel like the floss as like disposable pics is giving, yeah, we don't do this every day Let me make this as easy as I possibly can so I can at least try to get this done, which all feels very masculine. Mm-hmm. Whereas like the feminine side of like this is rolled up. This is all you really need if you just like got your hands dirty and like, okay um you know, didn't need the extra comfort.
00:57:18
Speaker
Here's my here's my thought. How the fuck are you reaching in the back of your goddamn gullet to get those teeth with that long piece of fucking floss? I can't wrap floss or in my back molar. I can't stick a pick in there and do it because it's small. But hey, a lot of people say, how do you get a fetus out of that vagina through that little hole?
00:57:40
Speaker
and I can't stretch my mouth to fit my fist. I'm so sorry. i have a quite small jaw. I can't sometimes even eat a sandwich sometimes.
00:57:53
Speaker
Okay. It's like hard. It's like my jaw is like it's there's yeah I'm not a python. I can't unlock my bottom jaw and then reach in there like I sometimes I need a pick because just easier. It's smaller. I could really get in there versus like a floss like hooking it behind my tooth. I can't even I can't tell where that is.
00:58:11
Speaker
Okay. Are you able to get your back teeth with floss from a rope? Yeah, it's super hard, yeah. I understand what you mean by like trying to go back there. You don't even know what you're doing back there.
00:58:23
Speaker
That's why I'm just like... if If I'm doing it. But yeah, then again, i'm you know, I'm not choosing to floss every day. We should just get a water pick or something and just be done with it. One of those like power wash things. Those look fun. i would I would buy myself more dental equipment just to have at the house so I can just be going at my teeth whenever Yeah, I want to be going at my teeth whenever I want. Yeah. Yeah. um Okay. Wow. ah Was that three from both of us?
00:58:51
Speaker
I think so. Damn, okay. I had a couple more, but honestly, I think those were those three were my favorite. he Feel free to do another one if you want. I mean, I'm down. Okay, well, if we do...
00:59:05
Speaker
um No, it's fine. i Okay. i feel like ah I feel like I don't actually like my other three. i think i I think the ones I chose, I felt like as we talked about them, they were actually really good. I feel like yeah yeah yeah i like it. i like it um and you got ah ah what What you can do is show me the first 10 minutes of Heated Ravelry. Really? yes Should we live react to it while still recording? No.
00:59:34
Speaker
That's a no, everybody. So on that note, we're going to sign off on this one. and because I just saw my best friend have an aneurysm in real time. was trying to find out how to politely say no without hurting my feelings. And that was seeing that panic in your eye.
00:59:54
Speaker
Worth millions of dollars. I can't believe I just saw that. I just saw your brain short circuit. Yeah, that was a true, the meme of that woman doing the algebra. You're just like, how do I say this? with I'm like, it's okay. We did not have to keep this rolling. Okay. Well, yeah, I was like, do we put it on the Patreon? Oh, we don't have a Patreon. Yeah.
01:00:19
Speaker
It'd be great if we always say, check this out on Patreon and we don't have one. Exactly. You can find this on the Patreon. Yeah. and Why not? Look for If you want to set one up for us, go for it. Yeah. And if you guys really want it, then maybe we will. Yeah. We'll cut you in because obviously this is everyone's going listening and paying for it.
01:00:34
Speaker
Exactly. All right. Well, I hope everybody had a nice and restful New Year's. I hope everybody is ready for this 2026 hellhole that we're about to enter and be kind to one another.
01:00:47
Speaker
Yeah, thanks to all of our listeners. um We should, you know, one day maybe ah plan an evening where we take the 10 of you out to dinner. That'd be really nice. Yeah, like a little, like, whatever. We can find some happy hour somewhere or something. That'd be really nice. Okay.
01:01:04
Speaker
A Dom and Dahmer live event. You guys have all been wanting this. We just sit there while everyone has a good time and we're just on mics being like, hello. Hi, everybody. Hi.
01:01:14
Speaker
All right, everybody. Bye. Bye. Love you. Love you. Love you. Bye.