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Episode 30: The Diva Episode
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If you are reading this…sry ‘bout the audio teehee. We got excited to have a guest and some wires got crossed. ANYWAY, if you push through and take a listen, this episode is a gooooood one. Our hosts Anya B Hynz and Dasha are joined by Kyle Christiansen. And as it always happens, when three gays are in a room they end up talking about POP DIVAS. So if you like Gaga, Madonna, Kylie, Janet and Britney, or feel strongly about Tate and Eva Max, this is your episode.
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Transcript
Humorous Misunderstandings and Introductions
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The diarrhea. The diarrhea. Don't read my diarrhea. ah Honestly, don't read my diarrhea. It's really fucking good. like You won't see me. ah oh You Cause I got diarrhea. No, not diarrhea. The diarrhea of and Frank. No, we're not doing that. Not tonight. Welcome. Welcome. Dom and Dahmer. Yay. What an entrance. What an entrance. Let's just say they smelled her first. Yes, we did. oh we it's not We, we be did.
00:00:52
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I think. Do I need to report you? No. Okay. Not yet. hey everyone something's different right something is different and and what is it it's my makeup that's right that's so that's all that's different today as josa would say the best makeup ever in history i did say that i loved it i freaked out i heard gaga through the door knew i was at the right door opened it screamed a scrumped scream yes very loud just heard a but what your phone
00:01:25
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it's Wow. Okay. No better way to intro their our yeah ah special guest. Special? Special for sure. Special for sure. um Thank you.
00:01:39
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Kyle Christensen. What are we not doing? On Instagram at K-Y-L-E-E-A-R-T-H-U-R-R Amazing. Well. Yeah, i was I was going to lead that up to like a completely different name. but Oh, wait, hold on. Welcome.
Kyle Christensen's Stage Name Ideas
00:01:57
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Debbie Harry. Debbie Harry. How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? Let's go. Did you consider changing your name for stage and screen? Well, when I was originally signing to an agent in Minnesota, I liked the idea of doing Kyle Arthur Christensen because I thought it sounded. Yeah. Yeah, it sounds like the guy that does the fairy tales. Exactly. That's what I'm thinking Oh, like Hans Christian Andersen kind of vibes? Yes. Which people do. Actually, I have gotten that before. you the 17th century writer? I get Hans Christian Andersen all the time. They say you look just like him. I'm like, stop it. My God, it's the baby blues. It's the baby blues. But my agent at the time was like, really like Kyle Christensen. It's phonetic. It's to the point. It sounds good. tight. And I was like, you know what?
00:02:45
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I like being tight. So let's just. And that's something we knew about you before you came in. That's the one thing we knew. you want to maintain it? We'll see. You will by
Fashion and Pop Diva Representation
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the end of this. Yeah. Unless, because I'm anything like the shirt that he's wearing. Oh, I love it. Well, it's about having rage. Raggedy and all. I'm obsessed. about having raggedy and... We gave Kyle no prompt. We literally were like, hey, come in. We're going to talk about something today. And I didn't even know we were starting until they did the intro. There we go. Okay. There's no rhyme or reason. We just go. Yeah. Yeah. We had our fun. We had our pregame. And now we're in. We're in it.
00:03:23
Speaker
We are in it yeah um Today we are going to go over some topics. um As you can see, or maybe not see, we are um representing our pop divas today um in in multiple different ways and fashions and options, as we can see. I think it's going to get a little heated in here. I'm not going to lie.
00:03:44
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I'm heated. Because to my left, um camera right, we have... ah You know what? They're wearing shirts. Dasha's wearing a fucking Lady Gaga shirt from Erewhon.
00:03:59
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Erewhon? From Erewhon. I went to Erewhon. I bought a
Ariana Grande's Industry Status
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Hailey Bieber smoothie and bought this shirt. And Gaga was there doing another. Yes, another tour. She's like, hit up Starbucks, now I'm going to Erewhon.
00:04:11
Speaker
yes And Kyle is wearing a sweetener. Sweetener, thank you, next tour. That I went to in Chicago and I got this shirt when i was there in Chicago back in the day. That's so exciting. Did you enjoy the concert? I did enjoy the concert. I maintain that like, I think Ari, you know, she's not a Beyonce or Gaga in terms of, like, she's going put on a whole production. So I feel like an intimate setting is going to be, like, the right place to see her. So I feel like this upcoming tour will be good for those that got tickets. But I still had fun, because especially at that time, like, I really wrote for her. so I met you when you were writing for her. Yeah, at that time. And then in the middle over here, in the middle...
00:04:50
Speaker
In the middle, all I'm going say, okay, this is going to my first fight. um This is my first argument of the day. We just started. We just started. Do we consider Ariana to be mothering? Do we consider her mother?
00:05:05
Speaker
I think at this point she's a mother. I think at this point she's a mother. She's been in the game for 15 years. Okay. Okay. she She really rose to you know, she's she was on Victorious around the time that Gaga was rising to fame. So if you think of it that way, they've been in the public eye for about the same amount of time. okay And Ariana really, I mean, she debuted with The Way in what was that, 2013? So that's years of her...
00:05:31
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um So your mother contingency is based on age in industry. Timeline, but also impact. I think Ariana is past the point of doing the, let's say, pop girl thing. I think she really is just kind of a like a star where people are just, she's doing whatever she can because she has the the ability to do that and people are tuning in regardless. And... She is a Grammy winner. She's Oscar nominated. Like she's on, she's done stage. She's done screen. She's been in the studio. Like I think she has enough cultural impact at this point to be at mother status.
00:06:08
Speaker
How do you feel? it was Long. Does she have the same legend status as some other mothers? No. I don't know. I think she's a young mother. She's a young mother. But like who's she mothering? Sabrina. Sabrina.
00:06:19
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She's not Sabrina's mother. a mother to Sabrina, for sure. See, that's the thing is like. Sabrina's been around a while, though. think until like Mariah Carey is dead. Whoa. Ariana. So is Gaga mother in that route, right? Because Madonna's still alive.
00:06:34
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um Well, I mean. Now you're hitting on something that's going to really... And I'm not saying I agree with that, but I'm calling out your logic. I'm calling out. Exactly. now So, you know, i i feel like i I feel like with Gaga specifically, the motherhood or mother status...
00:06:53
Speaker
also was like self-inflicted in a way. Like she herself called her like mother monster or like the fan base called her mother mo monster very early on. Mother and mothering as ah verbiage was like used early on in her career and kind of like push that through. She was also very quickly, i think, a um ah a ah a trailblazer, let's say, go for for a lot of subsequent um artists. Mm hmm.
00:07:20
Speaker
Yeah, Ariana, I think she's like getting there, but she still reads like girl to me in a way. I got it. That isn't. That's why i say young mother. But think of it this way. Like, I think like, but I think of it this way. Where's all those mothers? Yeah, I think Ariana's like a 16 and pregnant mother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's a mommy. She's like, she's like 25 and already has two kids. You know what I mean? Okay, okay, okay. It's giving back.
00:07:46
Speaker
Okay. You know what I mean? Two kids, But, you know, like, that's kind of like maybe like the energy. But she's mother nonetheless and is doing what she what she has to and is ultimately succeeding. I think when we look back at like already when we do like the cultural influence of Ariana Grande, like is we're all aware of it and are well, I think continue to be aware of it. So I think it's just we're witnessing it in real time. But I think she's she's she's not the new the new girl on the block anymore. And she hasn't been while. I remember meeting you for the first time. We were sitting around a table, and there were and as always, when you meet someone new, the first thing you do is, who's your diva? And you wrote so hard for Ariana. And I was like, and I realized I was old.
00:08:25
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That's what happened. Because when we're sitting, you're like, Ariana's this. And I'm like, oh, man, I guess that's because I always thought that Gaga was like the youngest you could like really go to. I know, i know. And then I was like, damn, I'm fucking old. and that but But you made good points. I really respected you after that night. i was like, okay. Thank you. i mean, I will say, like, as I'm getting older, like,
00:08:43
Speaker
Like Ariana isn't my go-to anymore. Who's your go-to? Well, my go-to, if I were to like, my go-to, if I were to like ride for a pop diva at this point, it would probably be, i would probably say Charlie. i feel like Charlie is more um reflective of the type of pop music and whatnot that i listen to in general. And Charlie has always been up there with Ari. I've been seated for Charlie since Vroom Vroom. But um it's I think you know Ariana just had a lot more Pull slash more influence On me at the time because I do So love like the R&B influence and the The theater influence that Ariana brings to her Particular brand a pop but But right now you're in that I need to be on dance floor K-hole rush but And really Charlie I think has been kind of at the the Forefront for me for the past several years um But Ari just like has always held a special place In my heart you charlie stand
00:09:39
Speaker
So here's what I'm going to say. Yeah, here we go. No, it's okay. i know. I want it. Um, Charlie for me was a one hit wonder with vroom vroom.
00:09:50
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I wasn't even a hit though. That that was a, that was my hit. Um, okay. And vroom vroom was the only thing she gave me up until, uh, brat.
00:10:02
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And I don't know how much brat was induced by like the brat mania. Um,
Artist Rebranding and Euro Influence
00:10:08
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what about that song she did with Iggy? That was before Vroom Vroom. So fancy, boom clap, I love it. That was all pre-Vroom Vroom. I love it.
00:10:17
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Yeah, and and boom clap. Boom clap is... For you, it's boo clap. Got it. We got it. We hear it. Boom clap. Got it. cross your hands. Boom clap.
00:10:32
Speaker
boo sit is crazy boo sit is crazy boo sit but the thing is she knows it does she i think that's why she yes and she even references it in that way like it's like a meta thing for now of like it was like her like like her like radio success hit that she like did for fault in our stars you know i do love that and what i recently i've been I don't want to say researching or doing any type of work on my end because it is not that. is scrolling. But I've been scrolling and receiving a lot of information about these rebrands across pop divas and and just the ladies. um And, you know, it was going through Sabrina's rebrand. It was going through Zara Larson's rebrand and also Charlie's. And it's true. like you're seeing But you see Charlie before Brat and, like, after Brat.
00:11:23
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And like that also really solidified her like aesthetic, what she's like bringing to the table, kind of like what you're going to get with her music. And yeah like married really well in the same way that like.
00:11:36
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when we were sleeping on Sabrina before you know the last couple of albums, even though she had already been in the game for x amount of years. And then the same thing with c Zara Larsson. She was doing music, or Ray, her rebrand. She was doing like features on EDM music, and and now she's like, I'm the the reincarnate Amy Winehouse with some flair and some spice. What about BB Rex has come up? Well, that was a while ago. Redacted. Beba Rexha who went, I'm just going to sing over very famous songs from about 20 years ago every, you know, five to six months. Does she do that? Yes. All her hits in the last like, sorry, maybe, but the last like couple years her hits have been her singing over like I'm Blue.
00:12:20
Speaker
But how are yeah how about Chica Chita? That's Abba, honey. Don't even know that. chi get chike i I feel like I've showed you this because the music video her being sexy around Russian guys. Kylie Minogue! Oh, no. I thought this was the Kylie Minogue song. Kylie, no. No, Bibi Rexha. She just came out with that Chica Chica. So this is really reflective, I think, of where Bibi is at in the deeper conversation. Yeah. which is that What about Ava Max? are we we um a a minimum Ava Minimum. What are
Pussycat Dolls' Legacy
00:12:57
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you about to say about Ava Max? right There is no rebrand. There's just i am beautiful bpm Beautiful BPM. And one short one long one short, one long. One short, one long. And that is what we like. It's French.
00:13:09
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And it stays. Okay, whatever. When I am out that when i'm at the Out Loud Pride Fest, whatever they call it, and Ava is doing the most and giving me you what I need, you're going to be sitting there hooting and hollering for the Pussycat Dolls, right?
00:13:26
Speaker
Right. Pussycat dolls. Yeah. Exactly. The ones that just canceled their whole tour? Oh, yeah, they did, unfortunately. Is it really pussycat dolls? It's just Nicole Scherzinger and girls. And a couple them. Yeah, like they don't, they used to have names. of them are pussycats. I know, but they used to have names and now it's just...
00:13:44
Speaker
Pussycat dolls are not the same as Ava Max or like Bebe Rexha. Pussycat dolls are more like the like cat's eye of their generation. Whoa. Fully agreed. That's real. Fully agreed. Cat's eye I don't think has anything on like the pussycat dolls in impact at the time but because that has a lot to do with just like where the industry was at and the way that those kind of things come about. But like it was like the like sexy dance music kind of thing. You have buttons. You have When I Grow Up. But you also have ah cats. I have not given us a I Don't Need a Man.
00:14:16
Speaker
don't know that I need a man to make me feel good. im I might do my thing. That's one I hate. I hate. um This part right here? I hate this part. That's a great song. I hate that. You don't like anything that's fun.
00:14:29
Speaker
That's a great song. I hate that song. That's a great song. I hate this song right here. Any ballot, Audie's like, no. Yes, I'm fucking over it. Go back the and get fast. Everyone can requiem themselves out of the room. Give me dance. Give me dance. Give me dance. I want to dance. I do want to circle back to one more point about Charlie, though. OK.
00:14:50
Speaker
I am going to contest the point that Brat was a rebrand for Charlie. Brat, Charlie had been, crazy like, curating her sound and her brand since Vroom Vroom, what Brat did was simply bring it to the mainstream, which was due to a lot of the the branding and the marketing surrounding it. And as well as the quality of the music, in my opinion, and I think the the actual quality of the music is part of why it was as successful in addition to the branding. But Charlie had been crafting that sound for almost a decade by that point. And Brat really just brought it to the mainstream.
00:15:25
Speaker
i As opposed to like Sabrina or Zara who have kind of undergone like a rebrand in the past year or two. Mm-hmm. Which is like, but but I will say it's really interesting that the most successful people we're seeing right now are people who have been in the game for about 10 years that have not seen success, but are now seeing it like after really like honing their skills versus all these other girls are coming on the scene that explode. But where are they? We don't know where they they left.
00:15:49
Speaker
They're gone. i e They have no Miss Dancing Diva herself. Wake it up. Tim McRae. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's who I feel. i'm like, when's the last time you heard anything about her? Exactly. I mean, I'm a tape McCray. She got a Grammy nom. Okay, so did everybody actually. I have a Grammy nom, you know what I mean? We got it. You had a hot 100. Tate
Pop Artist Longevity Challenges
00:16:14
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McCray should have stayed a male country artist.
00:16:17
Speaker
um They should have saved should have saved that name for something like that. sorry, we're not here to quell trans voices. This was her like rebrand hate sex change. Oh, wow. Okay, well, then I actually, I give her a lot of credit. Okay, cool. She looks great. Because that hair, that's turkey hair. A doll. It stops there. It stops there. yeah I mean, I have a lot of like, I respect the physicality of her performances. I think that's incredible. yeah i find that to not have a lot of longevity unless you have vocals to back it up. Because all these people like. Or artistic merit in the sonic component. That's how I feel. She's the girl that goes, I'm okay, I'm okay, I'm okay. it's god yeah I think her music is fun, yeah but it doesn't feel, and it is very dancey, so I get it. But I i feel like the like artistic component of it isn't quite like...
00:17:08
Speaker
exciting and enough that's because she has no references she didn't know who beyonce was she literally was like beyonce she's never seen crazy in love the music video for crazy and love her dancing choreographer had to be like that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying if you're gonna tell me that you're gonna be a dancing pop star diva yeah and you don't have references from beyonce's crazy in love which is ah how old is tate like 15 how old is she I think 12. However old she is, Google exists and so does YouTube and you could look that stuff up. And I feel like not to know her is a yeah sin. It's kind of like um the pit stop and like fashion photo review talking about Maddy Morphosis, how a lot of their issue with Maddy's drag on her season of Drag Race was that it felt like it was lacking in references yeah because it's a lot of context and nuance that that brings to one's art.
00:17:58
Speaker
yeah Well, and like Rue said, just him not having enough, you know, pussy. Yeah, he's a straight man. Which only comes from taking a dick. Nervous talents, exactly. In your charisma, uniqueness. That's right. If you're going to be on Drag Race, that's a requirement now. yeah Okay, I feel like we should take a break and are going to get right breath back. Right breath? We are not getting right breath. We're going to end the conversation on Charlie and move on. um Putting the hammer down, judge.
00:18:29
Speaker
Yeah, because gave, just gave Judy. I'm not even getting into this. Trump. i
Break and Upcoming Discussions
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Speaker
Okay, we'll be right back. Back to back.
00:18:50
Speaker
Also, I love these pants. Really? really cute pants. They're very piratey in way love. The whole fit is fitting. These go really well with the shirt, too. I was trying. With the chain. I'm seeing Demi later. Demi. I'm seeing Demi later. I'm seeing Demi. Demi. And you know who's opening for Demi Laverna.
00:19:04
Speaker
Adela. Excuse me? I only know the sex on the beat. Well, baby. um What about KG Bitch? Oh, yeah. Bitch. I haven't listened to it. b i've I've heard of it. Everyone is sleeping on my Slavic sister, and that is what's really killing me right now, because she is great.
00:19:19
Speaker
Listen, it is okay very normal that people sleep on the people you like and then suddenly you're like, oh shit. Suddenly they're sucking on my dick going, oh, you like them before. And I go, yep, yep, yep. I'll i'll give KGB, KGB? Yes. A proper listen. Please. Sex on the Beat alone was kind of put her in the same niche as like a Katz, I, or Tate McCray for me. A bit more maybe like...
00:19:41
Speaker
She could sing. all like She's got vocals. Which was exciting. A bit more alt
Successful Artist Rebrands
00:19:45
Speaker
maybe. um But that's the only song I know. So like I haven't listened to KGB. So I don't know. I want only the best for her because I'm so so so excited to see somebody that is like Euro flavor like in American pop. Right. Because that's something that's been missing in my opinion. Zara.
00:20:04
Speaker
But that's now. that's not but That hasn't been like a thing for people. And also, I feel like she's very Americanized. and Well, yes. and her She's been around, but like her hits have been like it's been like features on American songs. She's like Swedish. like Her music is so is so absolutely what America would love. Like early 2000s look, and then like the music that everybody loves. Branding. And that's called branding. And that's called branding.
00:20:28
Speaker
Branding.
00:20:31
Speaker
We're back. Yeah. We're back. And we didn't kill each other. we we very admirably had conversations off camera about how we still love each other, we respect each other's opinions, and we're fine. We're simple. We'll see. The night is still young.
00:20:44
Speaker
The night is still young. That really killed the mood. do not bring redacted. oh We will never talk about who shall not named. But the light is coming. But the light is coming. To give back everything the darkness stole. okay. I'm like, for a second, I was like, oh, yoy. She's on that song. She's on Bang Bang too. Sorry. well i'm wow Bang Bang. And Side Side. Oh, yeah. I know. i yeah yeah I have to just kind of turn a blind eye. are They have five collaborations. I know. She has some. Yeah. But it's all pre.
00:21:12
Speaker
nine eleven Yeah. It's all like. Yes. When everything changed. Yeah. For me, that was 9-11. Yeah. The Fire Nation attacked that day. Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Not the Fire Nation.
00:21:23
Speaker
The towers were hit. Okay. ah So what i I wanted to get into. Yeah. What?
Janet Jackson's Influence on Pop
00:21:31
Speaker
What is it? Get into it. Let's find a transition there. Let's see how you can do that, my friend. Yeah. Goodbye. And now to speaking into the next destination. yeah um I wanted to bring up Kyle's in interest in obsession or with the Janet Jackson. Oh, please. I want to hear an expert speak. This is honestly ah and a newer, in the grand scheme of things, obsession. like Ari and and Charlie have been around the the block the block, respectfully, more in that vein. Janet's a newer one. Mm-hmm. Okay, so even more of a reason. What's, ah you know, what pulled you in? What are your, like, kind of favorite moments so far? Yeah, okay. Well, let's see. I mean, it it it started, well, let's say, I was born 1996.
00:22:24
Speaker
good Which I believe... Bush Senior was... No, I'm kidding. I think it was Clinton. I think it was Clinton. score no i We just invaded Iraq for this first time. No, no, please. But I do think that was the year that um Velvet Rope was released. That might have been the year... out That might have been 97, actually. but um So maybe there's something there. i don't know. But um I basically back in... like The first time I listened to Jaina Jackson project was at...
00:22:54
Speaker
our beloved meeting grounds, look that property where I lived. That was the first time I listened to... North Hollywood. In North Hollywood. Valley Village, to be exact. Valley Village, right. That was old stomping ground. Okay. That was the first time I listened to her. And I can't remember exactly...
00:23:12
Speaker
What made me think like now's the time for Janet other than just I am someone that like I i always kind of go through periods where like let me deep dive into this artist like more recently I've done that with like Bjork and Madonna and D'Angelo so like other artists but um At the time I was doing Janet and I really felt compelled to listen to Velvet Rope because Velvet Rope is, A, that cover really spoke to me. I think it's very classy and kind of like loungy, but like very mysterious and sexy. Describe the cover for those that are unfamiliar. Yeah, it's basically...
00:23:47
Speaker
That's basically it. And again, for those who are listening, what I'm seeing is an ingenue. Explain it. Gently. Can you make the pose and I'll explain it? Okay. It is um an ingenue just gently looking at her own shoulder, arm gently tucked underneath her.
00:24:05
Speaker
The armpit, ah other armpit, and just, that's it. Just coyly looking away from the camera. Yeah, it's kind of down and over. Yeah, down and away. I'm shy. And curly hair, which is, you know, like, it's pooped up a little bit, and it's kind of enveloping her head, you see face. What's the color scheme? The color scheme is very warm. It's, like, um like almost like, it's red, but it's, like, um...
00:24:30
Speaker
not like vibrant or like fiery reds. It's almost like a clay, maybe like a clay red, like a clay red. And then there's like gold tones in there and orange tones and very like summery, but very kind of like, um, um, you know, maybe like South of the equator tones of red and whatnot. Um, very lovely. And then she's wearing like a, black or maybe navy i think turtleneck in it um I think it's black um and the framing of it is kind of like chest to like the hair and like around so it's a pretty tight frame um and supposedly it does say velvet rope on it um but you can only see it from certain angles when you're holding like a physical Whoa. i Love that. I just, just I just read that recently. i don't even know how much validity, validity there is to that, but, um, I think that's interesting as well. So if you just look at on, look at it on digital, there is no text on it, but, um, but yeah, so i think that was maybe part of it. And it is kind of considered, i feel like her many, many consider it to be her magnum opus. She has like, I think a handful that people consider like classic Janet albums. Um, I think there's like four that i really considered like kind of like,
00:25:41
Speaker
the classic Janet albums, um which are like her first four, I guess. But, um but yeah, so I started with that and it's, it's, a you know, as someone who's been a long stand standing fan of Ariana and of Brittany, Janet really is kind of a wonderful blend of like the R&B isms and the electro pop isms, but in a very kind of like um ah almost like,
00:26:09
Speaker
it's that Michael Jack it's that Jack classic Jackson like hookiness and swag and like ear for just music and lyricism and um and without all that unsavory stuff that makes it kind of weird for you to have to listen to them right yeah like the movie yeah like the movie yeah And um we'll tell you off camera. I know it's going to be really tough for you to hear. We'll tell you later what it is.
00:26:34
Speaker
OK. OK. And that's just, you know, if we're talking, i don Janet, as far as I know, all I know is Janet didn't want to be involved in the movie. Maybe that had to do with some of these like other Jacksonisms that we were talking about. But, um um but yeah, I, I, I'm very keen on her. And I think that her influence is just as, it's definitely one of the most impactful in pop music, like over, over time. And like, she's at this point, certainly, certainly a mother, somebody would say. Don't, don't.
00:27:08
Speaker
don't A legend. Thank you. um And master influencer um on the sounds of coming. Definitely one of the defining pop voices of for sure the 90s. If you like Britney, if you like any of these pop girlies that could dance, they could sing that are giving you that visual. Like you have Janet Jobs to think. She is the blueprint for that. It's very like smooth music. So I love that. I love the like smooth 90s like R&B influence, but it is still like quintessentially pop at the same time. Yeah.
00:27:38
Speaker
Big fan. I know I I'm ashamed to say that I'm very late to the Janet game. I'm honestly that's the truth of it but I think it was because I am attracted vocally to people first obviously and then visual stuff comes later and it was kind of hard for me to maybe get into her vocally but yes I can admit when I'm wrong and I was wrong and she's great.
00:28:03
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What made you think that you were think or realize that you were wrong? it's It's just like that's not what her deal is. You know what i mean? that. Yes, that is not what her deal is. Her deal is maybe not what I consider to be like right away like eye-catching vocals. It's like you have to listen to it and it's R&B so it's maybe a little layered. It's in the like riffs. It's in the like harmonizing with herself. It's in the runs. That's very important. So like...
00:28:29
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Or in how the softness, that's why i love Velvet Rope, because it's in a lot about how, like, the the softness of her vocals really complement, like, the kind of sonic land landscape that's happening, you know? are You familiar with Janet? Are you a Janet Stan? know you' like, together again. Woo-hoo-woo!
00:28:43
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Yeah. Woo-hoo-woo! Woo-hoo-woo! Woo-hoo-woo! I hadn't learned, listened to a lot of Janet until we went on that road trip. And that's also when I went, Oh wow. She was a lot of my, Kyle likes Janet. She was a lot of my, my playlist at that time. Yeah.
00:29:02
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Um, and yeah, she's all right. I know I get what she stands for and, and what she's given to the community. um I just can't say go listen to her often. Similar to Madonna. get what she's given to the years the music industry and beyond that. Well, okay, let me ask you this. What's Because I was kind of the same, but now that I've been doing some deep dives, like, into Madonna as well, there's definitely, like, I have, like, there's some of hers that I kind of could, like, take or leave, and then there's, like, some stuff that I've listened This
00:29:41
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I haven't listened to the full album. Okay, okay, okay. The song American Life, after Aquaria posted a video lip syncing to it, I've been kind of obsessed with it ever since then. um So I want to go back and listen to that album again.
00:29:53
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But Confessions on the Dance Floor, Love, Ray of Light, obsessed with Ray of Light. That album, honestly, like, changed the game.
00:30:03
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There was nothing like it at that point. And it really is. became mother in real life. And that inspired her in that album. Well, to be honest, yeah y'all, i don't know if y'all want to hear this, but like, I think those that are really paying attention have said this. and this is ah I'm not the only person that have seen voices opinion. But Ray of Light was the mother to FK Twigs.
00:30:23
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Oh, 100%. That is just the the reality. 100%. It's the truth. 100%. Mixed with like the kind of hyper pop movement. 100%. Okay. This is I killed you last time on Madonna talk and I'm so sorry I'm repeating myself, but it is just the truth. Like she is like um undoubtedly like,
00:30:43
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Absolutely incredible. She has so many hits in so many. It is crazy. Every album has a hit. And there's some it is crazy easy ones there. And if you really give her discography a listen. Hey, Mr. DJ.
00:30:57
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Turn the turn her record on. that She also did, um like Hollywood is one of my favorite songs by her. I love that song. That's that same. That's American Life. People don't even, it's the one where she kissed Britney and k Christina. And this is my question to What's a Madonna or Janet album that you listen to start to finish? Mm-hmm.
00:31:14
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That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, my... gotta do your research. My new Madonna track that I'm loving Isla Bonita. love that song. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. don't care that it's kind of corny. It's a really good song. It's her biggest hit. Yeah.
00:31:30
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is crazy to me. Yeah. There's no way it's her biggest. is one of them. If you look on YouTube, it is her biggest hit. I mean, that album and that era was like really when like her, she was like really kind of like, I feel like the pop artist at the time when True Blue came out. Yes. Because that album also has Papa Don't Preach, which is one of my absolute favorite songs ever. I love that song. in trouble. I think it's a great, it's a great, just a great song. About abortion.
00:31:53
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About abortion, about whether or not to keep a baby, like, about letting down her dad, like, about letting down the father. like Relatable. there's It's a really interesting topic for a song, and a really great song. And yeah, La Isla Bonita is on that album as well. They played that on the cruise, and... yeah You cruised. I was like, wait a second. What is this track? yeah Who is who's singing that song? Madonna honey.
00:32:16
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And yeah, i didn't even realize it was Madonna. But that's like normal. Like even with Elton John, like that biopic came out and I was like, wait, he's saying all these songs. These are him. And then I started deep diving in in Elton and was like, oh my god, I love all these songs. Yeah.
00:32:31
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That's the thing with these these these legends. like you really If you like really like do like a deep dive into them and listen to like one or two of their kind of like most iconic albums, you kind of, I feel like, get a sense of a bigger picture of why they're so influential beyond just the kind of like you're a famous figure kind of thing. Because Madonna is, like, at that point in her career and, like, has definitely, like, fallen into that trap now where it's kind of like, yeah, I get it. Like, you're Madonna. So, like, you don't necessarily feel the need necessarily to, like, dive in because it's kind of like you feel like you have the information already. Yeah. I do. I have to tell you this before I forget. um
00:33:08
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ah Speaking of things that people don't know. Oh. My mother and stepdad go to Canada for the first time, Montreal. yeah When was this? They road tripped there yesterday, Friday. Whoa. Whoa. So recent.
00:33:23
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Recent. Oh, this is this is live. Reporting from... Reporting live from Montreal. real time. they're on the phone with me for a hot second, and they start going... oh, you know, ah we're in like Amish country. And I'm like, Amish country. OK, I'm like, I guess maybe there's some Amish people up in mont Montreal. And they're like, yeah, you know, they had the the dangly hair pieces and like these big hats and stuff. And i was like,
00:33:54
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The Amish? Oh my God. The Amish? And I go, wait, I don't think Amish people look like that. And then I go, are you sure they're not Jewish?
00:34:06
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And I was thinking, see I'm glad you said Hasidic because I was thinking Orthodox. But I was like, I think those are Jewish people. Like, I see them a lot in my neighborhood. And they were like, continuing. They're like, yeah, wait you know, whatever.
00:34:24
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They pull up a picture and they were like, oh, my God. Yeah, that's we're we're not in Amish country. We are. We're just in a neighborhood. And then proceeded to go get Mexican food in Montreal. I was like, the.
00:34:38
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i Yeah, I'll leave it. Well, it looks like they have a lot of mixed things that are happening for them. And I'm I'm glad that they're experiencing culture and I'm really glad they didn't go up to them and be like, can you build me some furniture? Yeah. Like, oh, how is it living with no electricity? Yeah. By the way, they're like on Fridays and Saturdays. Great. Yeah, exactly. Awesome. not a problem actually yeah wait that's so they were like funny like one guy had that really big like furry hat and i was like oh i love those like i every time i see them i want to get one they're so expensive i'm sure furry oh it's a big cylindrical fur hat it is so cool it's imagine like a lincoln top hat but the whole thing's like outfitted in like mink And like no brim. Like it's all kind of one thick cylindrical piece. maybe I don't know if I've seen one. Maybe if i saw it yeah In Valley Village where we we we used to live. ho Really? I mean, I remember there was a lot of Hasidic Jews where they are in that area. It's funny. You keep moving everywhere where the Hasidic Jews are.
00:35:37
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I was telling family that. You're pulling a Charlotte from Sex and the City. Yeah. I love Charlotte. She's my favorite. i will say that. Really? Yeah. She's not mine, but I do love her. i love You're a Samantha girl.
00:35:49
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Samantha and and I do write for Carrie. I will say you give Carrie. I'm a big Carrie. You give Carrie down. Yeah. yeah I've been told that before. Thank you. Everyone tells me I give Miranda. I'm like, fine. I'll take it. Whatever. Who gives a shit? It's fine. Can you talk to me like that? That's insult.
00:36:05
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Yeah, because it's like she's the one that's like basically... Man-hater. Yeah, like man-hater, kind of like boring and is like... Defensive. Yeah, and like always teaching them lessons and always giving them... Super serious. Like feminist bullshit. But the thing is, like, that's... That's ultimately, like, they're all coping with their, you know, situations, like, in their own ways. And Miranda's coming from that perspective. But we also see in the show, like, other sides to her. Like, we see her vulnerable side. We see her sensitive side. We see her caring side. She certainly is a caring friend.
00:36:39
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Yeah, but I wanted her to have more of like a fun life. I'm like, if it's basically like, it's not an insult. It's a nice thing. But I'm just like, I would love to be a Samantha. I love it. But like, no. But are you Samantha?
00:36:52
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If I would like people to think I am, doesn't mean that that's what I am. Well, what one might lead to the other. God damn it. All Carrie. Okay, okay. I see it. I hear it. I hear It's okay. I just have one Aiden and Big after the other. So it's a fucking mess over here. Don't worry. And I just am raising a child by myself in my big, big apartment. Well, you you did have Steve.
00:37:19
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But then in the you got rebooted and became lesbian. Steve is crazy. Steve is a good partner to her. Miranda? Can you wipe my butt? Like, it's crazy.
00:37:30
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This guy's a child. Why did ask her to wipe his butt again? Because in the in the ah follow-up series, he basically lost any sense of like an ability to be an adult man that does things. See, but i the follow-up series did Steve really dirty. Yeah, they did.
00:37:44
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I don't think that's Steve's fault. Well. You know? says imagine me going oh it's his fault he's a man me man hating and trying to deny that i'm miranda in the same sentence great great great might be your mind yeah it might be miranda that's fine but we love miranda we do she's a lawyer we love it so we love a legal apartment all by herself that's right and she almost became mayor and then samantha you know she's the one that's like no i love samantha now i know why wonder woman's island was all women lesbos something like that but she's she's incredible when the guy when the guy that she's sleeping with calls her because he but he has a wife and he's like uh he's like samantha she's like hello and he's like i did it i left her and she's like who is this excellent Absolutely. When she's like, I will, she goes, I will suck and fuck whoever I want and I will get down on my knees. I'm like, fuck yeah, you stand on business. His dick is like a gherkin. She's amazing.
00:38:49
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She's amazing. Okay, segue. Yeah. um All right, well, thank you. We'll be right back with more Dom and Dahmer and a game. And a game.
00:39:08
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I'm so upset that that did not hit.
00:39:16
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that like I think that that album did like there was enough of an audience behind it that like I think recognized that and Miley has with that era she talked a lot about how like because the deluxe tracks were really good too yeah so she was talking a lot about how like after the kind of like commercial success of Endless Summer she felt really liberated to just like kind of pull the deadpats and like truly just do whatever the hell she wanted and um I'm hoping that like she'll continue with that because I think that like people feel a lot of I think whiplash with her music career because every album is kind of like I think people feel like they don't have a grasp on like who she is as an artist because music an actor she's a it's that and she does change her sound a lot but i do think that like she is very i think what she does have is very like kind of like classic songwriter sensibilities but i think she is she has a chaotic side to her that i think when she taps into that like
00:40:21
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there's really intriguing and exciting artistic moments and i think we've seen that throughout her career i think bangers was an example of that even can't be tamed dead pets and i think something beautiful was the most realized and most exciting version of that and um she's just so good at singing so i'm hoping she'll stick with that yeah i like that she changes i i don't like people that are stagnant i like when people try stuff but it does disappoint me that a lot of people don't like it I know. But I think like if she's like consistently just following her artistic intuitions instead of trying to like give the people what they want, people will like with Charlie, people will yeah get it. You just have to you have to give people time and just trust that by doing what feels natural to you that like.
00:41:07
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you know, people will get it over time. Yeah. Like there's that band that dresses up, they're called like Future whatever. they It's like they're covered in polka dots and they have one long nose. I'll send you a photo. It's great. They have like a little cult following now and I think they're going to huge.
00:41:21
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ah Polka dots, one long nose. It's like two people in a band. It's a two two band band. They sing like sometimes in nonsense. theyre They performed like in England like a month ago they It's crazy. They like have helmets and they glow, but they look like cartoon characters from like Cartoon Network. It's like, I'll send you videos. They have a cool following now. They're going huge. Maybe I know. What's their name?
00:41:45
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Do you know? Kitten. Couldn't remember. Couldn't type kiten mom hey Sunrise Kitten Surprise. Is it that one? There's something like Kitten Surprise. Something like that. It might be that. There's a band called Sun Kitten Surprise. all bag with like little but dots on I have no idea what they look like. I just know that there's a there's like ah a music group that's called like Sunshine Kitten Surprise or something like that.
00:42:07
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Give me one second. I just have to put more money in my thingy. And I'll be right back. And then we're on game segment. Yes. Is that the tea? Yes.
00:42:20
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Welcome back. Woo! Welcome back. you're wondering what I'm doing, I'm paying for my parking.
00:42:33
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She's paying for parking. It's about to run out. Truly hilarious. Called out to prevent her from getting a ticket. Yes. She might get a ticket. No, please don't say that. might be real But she won't because she's putting more money in the meter. Thank you. Through her divine. Who needs Kelly when we have a storyteller right here? God bless the internet. Yeah, that's what.
00:42:57
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Because he is a great, come on, hide in a closet. Amazing storyteller. Thank you. Welcome back. We are back. Hide in a closet. And we are going to play what are we gonna play in games. we're gonna Well, we're going to play one game. We're going to play our tried and true classic tried and true, It is. this or that.
00:43:15
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Yes or no. This or that. that was That's my fault. I put that in the ether last night when I was texting him. He was like, we do this or that. my God. I was like, so like. I said, it was like this or that, but it's called yes or no. And then I doubled down and said, it's yes or no. He's like, it's really more of a yes or no. both do this or no. three years only three years so we're playing yes or no and yeah I only have a couple so this can be a speedy version I think the two of you should go it because I really think I wrote down two need to remind myself what they were Yeah, I'm trying to remember. I love your ring. Very cute. Thank you. Thank you. Pinky up. Thank you. Very kitschy. I love it. Buffalo exchange.
00:44:11
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Okay. k Yeah. Kyle, do you want to start us off with a first yes or no? Sure. Okay. So yes or no. um Watching scary movies alone. And if you really want to go for it, watching scary movies alone at night specifically.
00:44:27
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um That's a no for me, dog, for sure. Okay. Why? um i don't tend to even watch scary movies to begin with, so I'm probably definitely not doing it alone um because I'm choosing something else.
00:44:44
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Anything else. Honestly, anything else. yeah I'm probably watching. I'll put on C-SPAN. Anything else. don't give a I've done that. I will do like a serial killer but scary movie. I will not do a slasher. And I have done like the Zodiac at night, and that was awful. Like the Zodiac, like the Jake Gyllenhaal one? Yes. I watched that at night, and it was one of the stupidest things I've ever done. That basement scene is very creepy, especially. And I'm sitting there in my room going, by the way, that's when my roommate was not in the house. I was by myself watching this movie at night going, why would you do this to yourself? Yeah.
00:45:18
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And i lost I went and checked that everything was. Ah! Tasha, I mean, seriously? What? Time to take my pills. like you bill No, that was my alarm telling me I have to pay for my car. gotcha Sorry, but yeah, um that was like perfect timing. That's what happened when I was at home. Jump scare. Someone climbed in. I checked out all the locks were closed. Anyway, I would not. I don't recommend. Do you do it? Do you watch it by yourself? Well, I thought of it because I was watching Terrifier 2 last night you die myself. That's torture porn. What the fuck are you doing? Yeah, but you know what? I was what i was scared going into it. I realized I was kind of in the mood for... I'd been kind of like having like a morbid curiosity recently where I was like watching the clips from like really violent movies. So like I was like, maybe I'm in the mood. And so I decided to watch it last night because I was like, i need to make progress on the Terrifier movies anyways because they're such like a phenomenon right now. And... um I'm obsessed with you. And like, I got a deep dive into Janet. I got a deep dive into Brett and I got to check out what the terrifier is doing. but i I love, I love like, uh, like, like that's honestly like my favorite, probably my favorite niche of horror is like, like gore porn. Like I really, I, I have to be in the right mood, okay but I really, was like jerk off. I honestly haven't seen that many of them. i've I've seen the first three. I've seen the first three. I figure you get most of it. But I've seen a lot of like, I've seen a lot of like highly disturbing movies, like the terrifying movies and like Cannibal Holocaust and like Solo. And like I've seen Cannibal Holocaust.
00:46:44
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It's it's really the first found footage. Movie. Because I've Salo and I've seen ah Human Centipede. yeah What is Cannibal Holocaust? Have I heard of it? Does this sound like the voice of someone that's heard of Cannibal Holocaust? Well, I'd just like to double check. What? Thank you. ah Cannibal Holocaust is basically, it's about like ah a professor whose like group of like students like went to like an island off the coast of Peru to like do like a documentary about like the indigenous tribe there and they go missing. And so he goes to try to figure out what happened to them. And he finds like their, he finds certain belongings of theirs, including like tapes. And he's like, like communicating like with the tribe members and whatnot. And, And whatnot. And in the footage, like you see, basically it takes you on kind of the journey of like what happened to this group. And they were very essentially just incredibly disrespectful towards this tribe. And so they get like completely messed up. But there's a lot of really like horrific things that do happen to them, like to other people, like things that they see.
00:47:52
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And the movie is most like famous for like the fact that like the director got like, a lot of like legal got into a lot of legal issues afterwards because there's a lot of very real um like animal cruelty in it that's very much displayed and it's very intense very this is like and it's very pink flamingos core but like oh interesting but like like it's in the same kind of like like iceberg like disturbing movies iceberg i would say lower than pink flamingos because pink flamingos has the like ridiculous and camp aspects going for it that makes it like fun yeah but um cannibal holocaust is it's it's pretty it's been a while since i've seen it like it's not like it's great but it's more just like it's just like messed up
00:48:33
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oh yeah my god so yeah anyways terrify or true though what makes it more digestible in my opinion is that like because as was i was watching it and yes it is a lot the bedroom scene is the most famous scene from that one so i was kind of nervous going into that although i had seen a clip of it on twitter a long time ago so like i kind of knew what i was getting into well what what happens in it but ah ah a girl gets killed in her bedroom and it's but like how to is it does is it the one where he like puts her head up her butt
00:49:01
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it like cuts it off and then swings a back around and puts, is that in that I don't think that's Terrifier. I think that's, I think that's in the movie. That sounds like a kill from, um, in in a violent nature, which is a, yes, yes, yes, yes. That's from that. Which I liked that movie actually. Oh fuck. I liked that movie. That is a really messed up kill.
00:49:16
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Put it on tonight by yourself. Just watch it. Watch a girl. That movie is also very violent. yeah But terrifying. No, in this scene, it's like there's a lot that happens. He like s slashes her eye and then he scalps her. And then like he and then he ah breaks, breaks her arm and rips it off. And then he rips her hand down the middle on the other side. Is it out of love?
00:49:35
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Respect? What's the what's desire? Desire. OK, cool. Not desire for anything other than just inflicting pain. That's literally the whole point. do we get his backstory ever? Yeah. Um, he doesn't really have in the first one. It's like, I think he's just a killer, but then like he kind of, there's like a supernatural element where it's like he dies, but doesn't die at the end. And then the second one just kind of like leverages that. And it's just like, now they're just like, he can kind of come back because they want him to come back. But what makes it more digestible is just, I think the fact that it's like the terrifier is like, so it's just the kills and like everything about it is just so ridiculous. And so over the top that it's kind of like a bit more like it's easier to stomach for me because of that. I'd be like, that's a prop. Cause it feels like more removed from like, I could like see the special effects, sure really great special effects. Love it. I would love to be a kill in a terrifier movie because it's going to be a production.
00:50:28
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Hey, I know you're watching. Everybody that works on the movies, I know you you're big fans ours. You always write in. And whoever it is, Darian, Schmarrion, whoever works there. Hire Kyle. Damian Leone, hire me. I would love to be a kill. I am obsessed with the makeup work. And I know how to have a really bloody, nasty, screamy, loud, painful looking death.
00:50:53
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Oh my god, stop flirting. OK. Hey, okay next what's your yes or no? Well, now I'm like, damn, my top yes or no this week is not going to deliver the same dissertation. Yes, it will. Yes, it will. Come on, come on. I was coming hot off the press of Terrifier. And I love it. That's what I want to hear. I was like, damn, I'm in one of those specialized college classes right now.
00:51:22
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Like the Buffy one. Open the schools! and Open the schools! So mine is ah yes or no glizzies and the term glizzy.
00:51:33
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So I have heard it, but I need you to remind me what it is. So people, certain people refer to a hot dog as a glizzy.
00:51:44
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And like, I'm gonna, you know, suck down these glizzies. I don't think I like it. How are we feeling about that? I thought it was. i think it's funny, I guess. Wasn't it TikTok thing where people like give you ah during a live, they give it to you like as a, like give you money. As like a gift. Yeah, as a gift. And they give you a glizzy. She goes, thank you for my glizzy.
00:52:09
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ah You're welcome.
00:52:15
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You're on that side. I'm just telling you I've heard. I'm just telling you what I've heard. You're on that side of TikTok. Okay, fine. Dasha back for the parking meter. I know for a fact that Danielle watches and listens, so back me up, girl. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. Hunty. I think I would be okay without it.
00:52:37
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I think I'm a no. You're a no? You're a no. I think I'm a no. Okay. Okay. I'm a yes because I love a TikTok person who's just sitting there doing like NPC work. Like, ah I love it. And I'm any way people can make money these days that it doesn't harm me. I'm fine with.
00:52:55
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OK. Yeah. Get your glizzies, girl. I'm going to get your glizzies, girl. I go to AMC. I get a glizzy girl. but I get a diet iced tea and I watch Devil Wears Prada on loop.
00:53:11
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I love going to the movies, blowjobs, museums. And that's why I'm not Miranda. That's why I'm not Miranda. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, next. Okay, yours? um I don't have one. Think of one right now. I don't have one. Improv. Yes, and. Oh, fuck. That's so hard. Okay.
00:53:30
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Look at something here and just make a thing Absolutely terrible. Okay, green juice. Yes. Like spinach juice? ah Kale? Sure. Yeah. I might have green apples. I might have cucumber. I might have... Grass in it.
00:53:46
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Spirugula? Spirulina? Spirugula. Spirugula. That's when you get spirulina and arugula together. Yeah. You've been growing that on your porch, I see. Yeah. Yeah. You like a green. I know you do. You both are healthy. I used to drink a lot of green juices. I don't anymore. i don't as much anymore either, but but I'm still pro. Like if I'm in the mood, I...
00:54:08
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I feel like that would just go right through you. oh well, sometimes. That's what you want. Yeah. Sometimes. Well, if you stay ready. You have to get ready. I take a green juice and I shit my brains out and then I go out. Right. and think i say And then I say, next time we go to the airport. Why do I need to get my shit cleaned out? Girl. Yeah, that's true. Because you're the one plugging in. Exactly. I need everybody else's holes to be ready. You a detox. Yeah. um What is that brand of green juice, like green smoothie juice that is like most known over the decade? Naked. Is it naked? That come in different flavors too? That one that looks like baby food?
00:54:53
Speaker
Yeah, there's like different ones, yeah right? Naked to me is the most like like mainstream. because got But it's got so much sugar in it. That's what I was going to say. There's so much sugar. Oh my God, not the sugar though. Which is I feel like why they're kind of on their way out. I feel like people, naked isn't the rave that it used to be. No, it's because the name is the branding. It's like, oh, naked. Naked, I must feel good. and And I feel like it was the first kind of like mass product of that nature when like that was maybe kind of like the up and coming rave, I guess. I don't know. Yeah. Now we moved on to Huffin, like ginger with cayenne pepper or whatever the hell. And lemon. I went through that phase too. See, I just wait until that's over. I'm letting y'all experiment, enjoy it, you know tell me what's up. I will not be engaging in ginger and cayenne pepper. it's It's good for you like clearing the system if you're feeling sick. So is putting your mouth on a tailpipe of a car. You know what I mean? It's like we could. have oppositeset but ah so mid Opposite effects. it's just you know there's the Mouth on a pipe. my Mouth a pipe. but
00:56:01
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pot full of grits okay wait uh kyle what's your next one what's your second okay okay um christensen arthur yep arthur kyle christensen um the third the third the third sir gerald rupaul um okay uh thirst traps on maine how do we feel I don't know why I'm doing this to you. Why are you like, i get a load of this. Because I know someone who dabbles. What do you feel about it? Okay. um
00:56:37
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Yeah, I've gone through my bouts. So I can't, you know, looking back, like around those years of COVID, the thirst traps on May and I were posting were wild sauce. The one of me in a green jockstrap just like standing next to my plant. Yeah. There was a lot of plant ones. Yeah. Well, and that was the whole, I mean, that was the aesthetic. The plant. Yeah, yeah. Plant daddy. Very Adam. No Eve. No Eve.
00:57:05
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Maybe Steve. This is Adam and Steve. Maybe a loaf of bread. Like when I would go, I would go out to ah hikes with loaves of bread that I baked myself to take shirtless photos with my bread. That was COVID for me. yeah That was top content creation in my book. Yeah.
00:57:22
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I was, I mean, hey, I was getting, i was getting a lot of traction and um I was the fittest i was, I think, in my whole life at the time. probably Maybe that like inspired you to bring the bread. Look at all this. Yeah. Well, as soon as my pics look good any day, I'm suddenly I'm taking photos of them around. Yeah. And they're on main. And they're on main.
00:57:47
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Correct. So that's a yes. So that's a yes. Okay. Okay. For me, it's a no of my own. For other people, absolutely. have said this multiple times. I'm like, I want people to be like, I'm a horny, hot person. Here you go. i hate when people pretend like they're not. Like they do that coy thing where they like photo dump and they pretend like the photo is just like whatever, but it's really them being hot. Like I'm like, just just be honest. You're hot.
00:58:13
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And I want to see it. own it Put it out there. And I'm really into it. And don't do close friends. Because that's not enough exposure. i want everyone to say. Exposure. That's right. And I don't know. I'm just like, I'm into it. Okay.
00:58:26
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Follow up. Yes. um are you Are you guys on like a lot of close friends? Mm-hmm. I feel like I'm on like a decent amount of close friends, but most of the close friends I'm on like aren't. I feel like maybe I used to be on more like close gays, close friends. I'm mostly third-strap oriented. Yeah. Now because like I've like I'm not really i don't know. i'm not I'm not in that market anymore. So like it's what market is that now are more like crash outs or like memes or something like that. The market that market used to be like the.
00:58:59
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The whoredom market Now it's a bit more More demure I'll post newer i'll post ah a thirst trap on Mayan obviously But like And I have recently Done it a couple times But but it's more for me than it is for them I'll do it again But it's more for me than it is yeah for them I guess So I don't know So I'm not seeing that many close friends that are like And we thank you and we It was for you specifically specifically you really And we do appreciate it Thanks Dasha Dasha, Arthur Darian, Tasha Arthur. As long as I 50%. I'm always thankful when people do it. So it's good stuff.
00:59:35
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I like it. Why do you ask? Huh? Why do you ask how many close friends are on? Well, because when I was like sitting with Joe, John and Steven on the cruise one night, they were like kind of over my shoulder and I had pulled up Instagram and it was like green circle, green circle, green circle, green. I i was like, oh, I have like 12 green circles to go through right now. And as I'm clicking them, they're like, oh, my God, like.
01:00:02
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There are people around because it's just front to back, front to back. yeah um And that's what's happening in the photos. ah the human centippiecee The human centipede. The human centipede. Oh, my God. But it in my algorithm, it's like so naturalized now. It's so normal. And like, like, I think that's why I end up also doing it for myself, but also for like, you know,
01:00:33
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but Almost like being inspired in that way. Yeah. My whole news, not newsfeed, but whatever. Explore page. Your C-SPAN. Yeah. My C-SPAN is all of that, too. But also, I think you're on a lot of people's because you do it. It's like almost like they're like, oh, I feel comfortable. I trust you. With you. too You're a safe space. Yeah. yeahs Yeah. Like, oh, I'm not going feel judged. Like, oh And that's real. Yeah. Yeah. That's real. see And that's kind of, i guess, like what I mean too, is like my close friends now is less catered to like guys I like, like followed off of Grindr and is more like people that I'm like yeah my friends and whatnot now. So like if I'm post, if I am posting a thirst shop on my close friends or otherwise, it's more just because like, like I'm like, I like want my friends to like hype me up. Then I am like seeking like sexual validation. need a that.
01:01:19
Speaker
I made a Finsta to post those photos. You need to send me that Finsta because I don't know that I follow it. It I haven't posted it in so long. I was so messy. I would post like like conversations from Hinge. like I would post like... Literally, I would be like, here, like all this stuff that I would not feel comfortable posting on my main, I would post on there. like Some photos are really inappropriate. like I probably should take that down, but whatever. I look good at the time. But I was like...
01:01:42
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Damn, well I had way more fun with Instagram before, but I should take that down, honestly. I'm thinking about it. Or just have fun with Instagram again. Because also at the end of the day, the other thing is like Instagram is like dying.
01:01:57
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That's not what I was going to say, but we could go that route. Damn. Damn. that This is how y'all are breaking the news to me. Girl, that is the clip. That is the the Instagram reel clip.
01:02:12
Speaker
That is so good. Is she on life support? Like, I didn't know about this. No, you know, just. Not both of us just. I was going to say not that serious. We're diagnosing. We're really good doctors. We've been diagnosing it. Absolutely. Yeah, it's dying. That's so good. Right. It's, yeah, it's, it's, ah it's it's cancer. It's terminal, really. Terminal, there we Yeah, yeah, Double homicide. I think, I think in the way how all social media platforms go, it's like they're hot and then they kind of slowly, I mean, TikTok's like two years away from that. It's like, it just always goes like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:02:45
Speaker
Yeah. I feel like, well, I don't know. i don't My perception is skewed because Instagram is really the only one that i use like. Yeah. That's one that ah the only one that I use like regularly and like consistently and like make a point use. yeah And it's because like I use it as like a portfolio. I use it to network. I use it to find gigs. So stuff like that. And it is kind of the most like.
01:03:06
Speaker
yeah amalgamation of like all the platforms in a lot of ways but um but it's not like i feel like it's also just kind of like i don't know like if i take it too seriously then like i also that's also kind of a trap so that's why i'm like you know what if i want to be a little risque on instagram then so what you should be and sex sells sex sells to be a little more risque think everyone needs to be a little bit more risque and that goes to you Thank you. I'm going to start tomorrow. First Traps. No,
Apology Culture Discussion
01:03:34
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tonight. Tonight? Great. Gonna have myself a real good time. Cannibal Holocaust and news. Damn.
01:03:44
Speaker
Oh, damn. Okay. Are there any the other um yes and no's? I have yes or no one um And it is saying sorry when you're not like sorry really at fault. It's just kind of like saying sorry for the for the situation I honestly I I'm a no on that I'm a no on that I if I say sorry I want to make sure I mean it that being said I do think there's something to be said for saying sorry just for because you recognize that like even if you had good intentions or whatever like maybe you hurt the other person and a that warrants an apology but saying sorry i think just because someone wants to hear it or when you don't mean it i don't I I don't that's a no for me okay
01:04:31
Speaker
I don't think, yeah, I mean, i will if I apologize, I want to mean it so I don't just say it. And I oftentimes don't feel like I'm in the wrong, so I don't want to apologize. And you never are. That's how I feel. You never are, Miranda. I'm literally like, I'm not wrong. But then if I think about it enough, I'm like, okay, it's not necessary that I'm wrong. Is that the person's feelings got hurt even outside of what I. Right. My intentions were. Right. So then I will apologize and say sorry. But I say sorry like when people bump into me.
01:05:04
Speaker
So. Yeah. But OK. That's that's where I'm getting at more so is like the public being out in public. Like I will catch myself. Yeah. um Like where when did I just I literally just did this. Oh um last night at the concert I like walked into the bathroom and.
01:05:22
Speaker
I pushed the door open and there was a guy like at like where the paper towels were, which was right by the door. So I was like kind of almost like going to hit him with the store. So was like, oh, my God, sorry. And then literally as I stumbled to the urinal, I like go to open one of the stalls and there was somebody in there. And I was like, oh, sorry, I didn't realize. And I'm like, I'm like. Sorry, sorry. But I'm like, I also could be just someone in there and just, you know, I didn't need to do all that. No, you should have apologized. You almost hit a guy and then you walked in on a guy on a toilet. Yeah, you should apologize. I'm talking like you're standing there, someone runs, body checks you, and then you're like, I'm sorry. Yeah well But I do that too I think like That warranted an apology What you were doing Cause it was like Cause you were a horrible But it was like But it was like It was like The scale of it was Yeah Small So it's like Yeah It doesn't like It doesn't warrant Overthinking it necessarily Just kinda like Move on Start saying My bad My bad My bad bro My bad buddy Need me to suck your cock To make it up to you I Dude my Literally dream scenario Sorry Sorry
01:06:29
Speaker
ah Sorry, I almost checked you. You hard about it? Can I suck your dick to say sorry, man? so yeah and at the In the airplane when they're like, chips or cookies, I'm like, dick. dick You got dick?
01:06:41
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On that chart. Play your platter. Okay, well. Yeah. Yeah.
01:06:48
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oh ah well um yeah I like it. And how about you? To your point. Oh, yes, please. As well. Like, if someone, think, like, I would maybe do the same thing, too, where if someone ran into me, I could see myself saying sorry. Because maybe, like, it's from the perspective, like, oh, maybe, like, I know, maybe I was in the way. I don't know. You're never in the way. You're perfect. I always feel like I'm in the way. Well, that's where, like, then like, being aware of real time.
01:07:18
Speaker
Was it me or was it them? Yeah. Am I in the way? what Or are they a hot mess and they're running down the street knocking people over? you know i yeah I mean, if someone hits me, even if I'm in the way, they could have avoided it.
01:07:34
Speaker
They could have. And that's what I say every time i get into a car accident. So next time, just go, hey! Hey, you could have avoided me! didn't have to do that! I know I've got terrible insurance. You know I'm having a hard day, too.
01:07:49
Speaker
At you could do is apologize. I'm not gonna. Never. i don't apologize. i don't believe in it. um I think that's. I think I don't. I don't.
Kyle Christensen's Creative Ventures
01:08:00
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All righty. OK, everybody. With that said, we are wrapping this episode up of Dom and Dahmer featuring Kyle Christian Anderson's.
01:08:14
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coter The mermaid turns into fondly. For real though, my name is actually Kyle Christensen. Tell them where they can find you. i sure will. Sorry.
01:08:29
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ah My name is Kyle Christensen. Kyle Arthur Christensen, if you nasty. And we are. And just to circle it back to Janet. And you can find me on Instagram or TikTok, if if you nasty, at Kyle Arthur, K-Y-L-E-E-A-R-T-H-U-R-R.
01:08:49
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And um you'll learn all the shenanigans that I'm up to, including this little powwow right here. And you can watch um the Hazlehurst Studios production of Kyle, Profile, yes Interesting Q&A, Interview, Photoshoot Session, Extravaganza, editorial, on my Instagram, on your Instagram, on the Hazlehurst Studios Instagram.
01:09:21
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Check it out. Learn more about the, i was about to say the singer-songwriter. I'm a singer-songwriter, so I sing a lot of songs that I write. Actor, director, screenwriter, I guess singer-songwriter. We're working on it. Creative, um multi-talented. And all around wonderful person. Crab deliverer.
01:09:45
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Kyle. Crab deliverer. I don't think I'm a crab deliverer on Maine.
01:09:53
Speaker
That's for friends. That's for close friends. Got it. Ignore that. It's not for you. It's for the close friends. So we're going to leave that to the minds of the viewers.
01:10:04
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