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Disclosure Team; Christopher Sharp NDAA IAA & New UAP Report
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Introduction to NDAA and UAP Report Delays
00:00:01
Speaker
Welcome back, guys, to another special show here on the Disclosure Team YouTube channel. Today, I'm joined by Christopher Sharp. We are just going to be doing a fairly short show just to talk about the latest news with the National Defence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023. We'll briefly touch upon the delayed UAP report. So, yeah, guys, without further ado, please welcome Christopher Sharp. How are you doing, Chris? Yeah, I'm not too bad, thanks. Please excuse us like coffee on my behalf.
00:00:31
Speaker
No problem at all. That's all good. It's that time of year when we're all getting a little bit under the weather, but we'll carry on either way. So listen, thank you so much for joining me
Senate's Intelligence Act and Whistleblower Provisions
00:00:42
Speaker
here. I just wanted to sort of talk about the latest, as I say, with the NDAA. I think it's best probably first to start back sort of after the congressional hearings that we had, because we started to hear some language coming out fairly quickly after that, sort of in the summertime. So are you able to just bring us up to speed on what that was?
00:01:01
Speaker
Yeah, of course. So what happened was that after the hearings it became clear that briefings were happening behind the scenes with
00:01:16
Speaker
in my opinion, whistleblowers, because what happened in summer was that the Senate released its intelligence authorization act, the draft of it. And that was the one that contained all the provisions for the whistleblowers.
00:01:33
Speaker
So it became abundantly clear, as the source stated to me, that that did not come from a vacuum. There was information provided to the Senate Intelligence Committee. So that's the language that came out. And then after that, you had an explanatory report.
Pentagon's Unmanned Aerial Systems Criticism
00:01:50
Speaker
And that explanatory report was basically stating that there's been an exponential increase in these kinds of objects in terms of trans-medium objects.
00:02:02
Speaker
And they also criticized the Pentagon as well. And that was nothing new really. I think the case in point was the 2019 instance in the Pacific, in that you were told that these were unmanned aerial systems, but there was no information coming at all and provided about the origin.
00:02:25
Speaker
and the people who were kind of controlling these things, who were the controllers, who were the origin. And that was something that I think really got under their feet, really, and they were not very, very happy about it. So, yeah, that was really, really important, I think, that sent an intelligence report was.
00:02:49
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. We started to hear whispers as well in the last six months about crash retrieval programs being talked about behind the scenes. Did you hear anything much about that from sources or what can you say about that?
00:03:03
Speaker
Yeah, they exist. There's historic programs and then there's programs that are currently active right now. That is clearly for me becoming a fact and not speculation.
00:03:19
Speaker
So, and that's something that is kind of made clear in terms of what they're trying to get at within the National Prevental Authorization Act, because to make it clear that the Intelligence Authorization Act is now being coupled with the National Prevental Authorization Act, whereas last year there were two separate things. So yeah, it makes it clear basically that
00:03:42
Speaker
it compels reporting of any programs that have not explicitly been reported to the key congressmen like chairs on the key committees like the intelligence committees and the armed services committees. So what it's basically stating is that
00:04:03
Speaker
If you've got knowledge or if you've been working on these programs, then you can break your non-disclosure agreement, even if you can break an executive order as well.
00:04:19
Speaker
and the Atomic Energy Act and the secrecy kind of like, binded by that, you can break those kind of things to report that knowledge to Arrow.
Reporting Structure and Accountability Changes
00:04:33
Speaker
So that's something the legislation makes clear that you can now report that information and then once Arrow has validated that information then they report it to the Secretary of Defense. They're no longer reporting to Moultrie's office, that's gone which is great news because it's full of
00:04:52
Speaker
Gary Reid allies. So now they're going straight to the deputy secretary of defense and secretary of defense office and reporting to them. So then what happens is that secretary of defense will then have 72 hours to report that information to the relevant committees. So this is really, really big stuff. This is really, really kind of like firm, firm language here. And
00:05:17
Speaker
because it now falls on the Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin, you know, there's more accountability to this now. Yeah, one thing I think we heard when Arrow was first formed, there was another group, the Arrow Exec, which I think is some kind of oversight board. What can you say about that? Because I think Moultrie was even attached to that in some way.
00:05:40
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, that was something that was legislated last year. So that was when the DOD and ODNI came out with Arrow in, well AOIMSG as it was known then in the first place. And yeah, they were really kind of like the controllers of this. And I think that the main guy in this group
00:06:03
Speaker
at the time was Gary Reed which is someone you don't want heading up this kind of like effort really and also it's I think as well you have to make it about to be clear that at that time there was no Curt Patrick, there was no director of the office
00:06:22
Speaker
And so, I mean, I've got limited knowledge in terms of like the ins and outs and workings of that. But I do know that Gary Reed was involved in, he was the last person he wanted involved. But now a lot of the accountability falls on Kirkpatrick.
00:06:42
Speaker
Yeah, and you mentioned him, you know, we know he's been heading the Arrow group, but we also saw earlier in the year job vacancies coming up being advertised for positions within Arrow and
00:06:53
Speaker
I think I read somewhere that they've now been filled, but, you know, let's just touch upon, you know, obviously we would do the UAP report on October 31st and we were all hearing from various sources that it was due and it was coming and then it, then it wasn't. Do you have any latest on that or is it now a case of just sitting and waiting for, for when it just appears?
00:07:13
Speaker
Well, firstly, there was a briefings war on that. So there was the Barnes article in New York Times, people kind of like stating that these things, these things are mostly Chinese drones and stuff. But yeah, I think that story, I mean, just talking to sources.
00:07:29
Speaker
from both sides, let's say, I think that paid off everyone. Yeah, you know, if you don't want this information come out, it's PDF because Congress are unhappy now. And I think it was, I think, in my opinion, it was probably made abundantly clear that there's a variety of explanations, possible explanations for UAP. And they're not all Chinese drones, which I think this article kind of like failed to convey. And I think that really, really need a lot of people off. And then obviously, Congress has got paid off as well now, because it's
00:07:59
Speaker
If you're on the other side and you want more transparency, then that's not good news. And then you had another report from Josh Boswell, my co-writer from The Daily Mail, and just someone from the intelligence community was just stating to him that, look, these are not all Chinese drones. These things are strange.
00:08:18
Speaker
and you know they include like triangles, we've seen orbs in the Middle East from Reaper drones, so like that was making abundantly clear that we're not seeing that. So firstly let's establish it from that base that we know that there is some kind of civil war within the intelligence community and the DOD regarding this.
Reasons Behind UAP Report Delays
00:08:41
Speaker
So now we have a situation where we know that Congress
00:08:47
Speaker
is not happy about this situation. And there's a delay in the report. Now, we know from looking at the last UAP report that there's a lot of consultation and coordination goes into these reports. So what happens is that our own, in this instance, provides the data and allow a system or not to the ODNI.
00:09:17
Speaker
And then it's their job to put together a report based on all this stuff being given by Arrow and they need to coordinate as well with other agents as well to check boxes basically. So that can include the CIA.
00:09:35
Speaker
it could include the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency and all sorts of things basically. So there's a lot that goes on and also during this, yes it is correct, it is correct that Congress has not seen this in terms of it's not been delivered to Congress yet.
00:09:54
Speaker
I want to make that abundantly clear, but also there is something called the, there's like a legislative affairs kind of like armed to the ODNI, which is basically it's liaison office with Congress. So there will be constant back and forth during this process between congressional staffers and the ODNI regarding this report.
00:10:21
Speaker
and that's just to ensure basically that it's meeting the intent of Congress. So there's all these things going on and I think you hear some people say look it's really boring, just bureaucracy is normal, yes that is something and I know who they're having conversations with as well, we all do, but
00:10:44
Speaker
You know, I don't know what I don't know at the end of the day. There may be knowing what I know and what others know about the background of this. I can't say for sure what is causing
00:10:55
Speaker
delay and it could be something like Arrow is basically not essentially meeting the requirements of the intent spelt out in the last National Defense Authorization Act so it could be something down to that we know that Arrow has been very poorly staffed but look this is speculation on my behalf but I think that's what usually happens when you're when there's a big vacuum and I
00:11:18
Speaker
The impression I'm getting, no one has an idea what's going on at the moment. I think that's the only thing I can be quite sure of. But I did think it was going to come out in December. That came from very, very good knowledge. I pass that as my own knowledge, but it wasn't. But obviously that failed as well. And that's just kind of like really spelled out to me that no one knows what is going on.
00:11:43
Speaker
Yeah. And that's the thing, like, you know, it's all always good to have sources who may be sort of on the inside or no certain things, but it does get to a point where nobody seems to know. Like, like you just said, I mean, I had a conversation with someone the other day, close to, to Sean Kirkpatrick. And I think the, the basis of what was said is that it's the sheer scale of the project, you know, it's, it's, there's so much to do. And you, you sort of mentioned there, all the little,
00:12:11
Speaker
bits of communication between different agencies and that to get this thing together. So I think we shouldn't be that surprised that it's delayed. And we've heard a lot of conspiracies about people saying they're just trying to obfuscate the truth. And maybe it is just the fact that it's just a lot of work that needs to be done. And due to the lack of staff, as you say, it could just be that
00:12:33
Speaker
if it's going to be done properly, it's going to take a lot longer than was given. So the one thing I will ask is, are there going to be any ramifications or repercussions for it being delayed and not hitting the original date? No, not that I can see currently. I can see Congress being frustrated because as a politician, when people are airing their frustrations about delay,
00:12:59
Speaker
then that's going to inevitably cause frustration with Congress as well. But in so far as legislation, I mean, it's difficult stating that this one bit of legislation like, you know, Kirkpatrick having to report directly to the Secretary of Defense now, it's difficult saying where that came from. We all know that there's been lots of
00:13:22
Speaker
big issues with that former office that was based in USTINS. So we know that, but it's difficult to say, oh, that was down to this reason or it was down to that reason. But I also know as well that Kirkpatrick may have got his way on some things as well in terms of the finalised legislation. So, I mean, there's no clear sign right now. I can see that there's any
00:13:45
Speaker
ramifications it looks like now we're in a situation where this new finalized language is kind of like really putting putting the pressure on Kirkpatrick and if he doesn't deliver so he's got to deliver like a report for instance which is going to be with the accounting office in previous legislation but now he's going to do it in terms of finding the information from 1945 so I mean if he doesn't kind of like deliver on that I mean he can be squeezed and
00:14:15
Speaker
Yeah, the onus is really on him now. Yeah, absolutely.
Whistleblower Reporting and Transparency
00:14:20
Speaker
Now, one thing I wanted to do is take a look at, well, on Twitter, if people should be aware of Douglas Dean Johnson, who regularly covers this kind of aspect of the subject. And he recently wrote an article which I wanted to share and just discuss a couple of the points that he mentioned. So if I just bring that up on screen and we'll just talk through it a little bit.
00:14:39
Speaker
Here we go. So it is a preliminary look at the UAP related provisions of the final proposed fiscal year 2023 National Defense Authorization Act, HR 7776. And if I just scroll down.
00:14:58
Speaker
He says the house passed bill contains two main UAP related provisions found in three sections of the bill. So the first one we wanted to talk about here was bill section 1673. And I'll just read this first paragraph. It's a secure method for authorized reporting safe harbor or UAP whistleblower provisions.
00:15:18
Speaker
So this section creates a secure method by which current or former government employees or contractors can submit UAP related information to the Pentagon UAP office and through the office reach also the Congressional Armed Services and Intelligence Committees. So that's pretty big, government employees, former and contractors. So does that sort of come into contractors with private organizations? You know, what does that say to you?
00:15:47
Speaker
Yeah it does, that's correct. I think if you're listening to a lot of the the chapter about this thing, it's been with
00:16:01
Speaker
these defense contractors like your lockheads and stuff for a very very long time they get given stuff so okay we're going to give you this you try and work it out it may be that we've got a situation at the moment where they're finding it very very difficult to reverse engineer this technology um but but yeah that that tells me that's explicit now that um
00:16:23
Speaker
that there is involvement with, with government contractors within that. So yeah, I think that that's very, very important. And I think it's something that people, people really, really need to keep an eye on, I think, in terms of that. And the one thing I will say is that when we hear the word whistleblower, and especially associated with the UFO subject is that a lot of people think that
00:16:52
Speaker
If someone blows the whistle, it's going to become public knowledge what they were involved with. Whereas in this instant, this is not going to be public. This is giving them the option, the aim to report behind the scenes, behind closed doors, in closed briefings to the armed services and intelligence committees. This is not suddenly going to blow the subject wide open publicly. And I just wanted to sort of temper expectations with that.
00:17:21
Speaker
Yes, I can see the next big movement in terms of advocacy, let's say within the UFO community is to actually
00:17:33
Speaker
is an effort to galvanise people to pressurise Congress to make as much information public as possible. I mean, in terms of Congress, this is all trying to be more transparent about the way this topic's been treated, because not only being hidden from us, it's also being hidden from Congress as well.
00:17:55
Speaker
I think there will have to be some give in terms of this, in terms of letting some of that information go and declassifying it, which may be down to getting the president involved, for example. But I think we may see that. And I was thinking just the other day that a lot of people say it might not come out the way you think it will. It may not be the president of the United States making a speech or whatever.
00:18:25
Speaker
could do. I mean, when you had the James Webb telescope and its first images being browned, you had a big event with a president showing up to the pictures and stuff like that. So it's hard to imagine that any kind of
00:18:39
Speaker
talk about non-human intelligence may not involve the president getting involved although saying that joe biden does have a lot on his hands at the moment as well but it'd be interesting seeing the way that that might might play out but i think that this is the next big effort trying to get congress to share the information with the public yeah absolutely
00:18:55
Speaker
Now, just going back to the article here, one thing that under the new bill, the office will retain its current name, so we're not going
ARRO's Role and Legislative Support
00:19:01
Speaker
to see another acronym coming in. So Arrow, the All Domain Anomalies Resolution Office, will remain, which is good, because it's a lot more palatable. And it gets to keep its Twitter page. There you go. And let's hope they tweet a little bit more, because they've been a bit quiet on that front. So, yeah, moving down.
00:19:22
Speaker
I don't want to go through it all but I think there were the key. There was a few changes in the language but from the Intelligence Authorization Act before it made its way into the NDAA and I think that's really what covers here. What I'll do as well for anybody watching or listening is in the description on YouTube. I will pop a link to
00:19:40
Speaker
to Douglas Dean Johnson's article that we're looking through because in the article as well is a PDF, a link to a PDF of the 33 pages of provisions that you can read all relating to the UAP subject. Yeah, I think that the main thing is that this legislation compels the DOD intelligence community to fully cooperate and support the activities of Arrow, you know, which does include
00:20:06
Speaker
providing, let's say, you know, people from other offices, or departments like the US Navy, for instance, to be co-located within ARRO, and to share any non-disclosure agreements as well related to UAP to provide scientific and technical support, you know, even capable
00:20:33
Speaker
capabilities to respond to to incidents because that's going to be one of the main things as well that you know you do need corporations of these other kind of um departments and offices once a new event emerges and yeah that that'd be really really important yeah absolutely i mean like we're reading
00:20:51
Speaker
this article and this is just you know the provisions that Douglas Dean Johnson thought were important but you know this like I said there's 33 pages of it so you know if someone really wants to sort of dig in themselves then then you know check out all of all of that pdf
00:21:04
Speaker
But this part here, the general revisions pertaining to the Pentagon UAP office ARRO and its operations, and ARRO conducted historical record reports on government involvement in UAP. So that's huge. And just moving down here as well, I just noticed that what you said, the new bill significantly elevates the status of the ARRO program. So like you said, reporting directly to the Deputy Secretary of Defense and the Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence.
00:21:35
Speaker
Yeah, this is really pushing the conversation forward compared to last year. And I think that in itself is something that we should look at in a positive light. I think so as well. I think it's clear now that the game's kind of up. And I think the information is... I can't really say too much, but I think the information is coming out. And I think that...
Future Predictions and Historical Context of UAPs
00:22:03
Speaker
there's important conversations happening. And yeah, but I think I just want to say I think next year is going to be a really, really big year. And a lot of exciting things happening. So, yeah, it's gonna it's gonna be really exciting, man. And yeah, there will be some stuff that I'm gonna put out as well.
00:22:25
Speaker
about this, which you might be aware of already. It's going to be a great round. 1945 is very, very important because that is the date of the alleged Trinity crash and that was at the Trinity test sites where they were launching the atomic bombs.
00:22:47
Speaker
we know, let's say, that there is some kind of link between atomic bombs going off and the electromagnetic pulse and bringing down these things. So I think that's really important. And then in 1987, which is why that language was there before, in 1947, that's when you had all these new agencies and offices created and stuff. So it's easy to kind of get a paper trail going back to them.
00:23:15
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. And I'll just read this bit out that pertains to the January 1st, 1945 date. It says, the report is to include a compilation and itemization of the key historical record of the involvement of the intelligence community with unidentified anomalous phenomena, including any program or activity that was protected by restricted access and has not been explicitly and clearly reported to Congress.
00:23:40
Speaker
Then successful or unsuccessful efforts to identify and track unidentified anomalous phenomena. And finally, any efforts to obfuscate and manipulate public opinion, hide or otherwise provide incorrect, unclassified or classified information about unidentified anomalous phenomena or related activities. So that's huge. And the one thing as well is that they've obviously changed the name from unidentified aerial phenomena to unidentified anomalous phenomena, which I think is fitting and works better.
00:24:10
Speaker
Vinny, that is so important. That is so important what you just read just there. Yes, firstly, the name change is very, very important because before you had a situation where the airport is saying it's in space. So we don't have to deal with it. And the space force is saying, oh, it's in the air or it's in the ocean. We don't have to deal with it. So actually kind of like taking anything to do with that out of the equation,
00:24:33
Speaker
And there's definitions there anyway inside the language basically just states that we're dealing with trans-medium stuff that can go through space, air and water. So it's there anyway, but it makes it very, very difficult now for the Air Force to turn around and give that excuse. So that's really important, firstly. And the other thing, I think there was some confusion before. Say, oh, no. So that means if I'm in a
00:24:59
Speaker
special access program, I can't come forward and blah, blah, blah, and people interpret that language wrong, but no, no, it's not like that. It's like if you're on a special access program that has not been clearly reported to Congress or compartmentalized access program, then that's when you can come out. I mean, it could even be something whereby
00:25:19
Speaker
that programs communicated with Congress before and say, no, no, we're doing X, Y and Z, nothing to do with UAPs, but they've not made it clear that they are doing something with UAPs. So that would then allow that person to come forward because it's clear that
00:25:35
Speaker
Congress didn't have knowledge about that program. So that's really, really important.
Legislative Progress and Media Criticism
00:25:40
Speaker
And then in terms of the language you were reading as well, that you can't mislead the public and whatnot about the city, that's really, really important. So I mean, I think now you're going to see perhaps a different tone taken from the public affairs office in the Pentagon. Look, when it comes down to Susan Gough, like she's always been really, really good to me.
00:26:02
Speaker
because she's provided me with exclusive information that no one else has got. So for instance, you know, Lou working with Space Force, that was really important. And Sue didn't have to do that. So but I mean, if there are VC allegations against Sue that we're aware of, so it could be that, you know,
00:26:25
Speaker
it could be that they may change their tune on some of these things. It could be that the report as well would be important to the report as well once that legislation comes through. Because once that legislation comes through, let's say that defense officials and intelligence officials do have knowledge now that these programs exist and verify the information, which from my understanding is correct.
00:26:53
Speaker
then to kind of like put out a report and then pretend to some extent you don't know what these are still and still using the Chinese and stuff like that, pretending that aren't truly like strange things flying in our skies, our oceans and over atmosphere, then that would maybe you could potentially argue that that is misleading the public.
00:27:15
Speaker
So I think that's really, really promising as well in terms of transparency, transparency, because Congress will want to live up to that as well. So any comments they make, they'll have to be really careful. A congressman can't just go, oh, these are all Chinese drones. Can't say that if it's not true, because that would be misleading people. So that is really, really important that any new briefings, reports, comments made, so that
00:27:45
Speaker
That's brilliant. Excellent. And like we said, this has passed through the House of Representatives now. So we're waiting for it to go into the Senate. And then if it passes there, then it's just signed into law by the president, if I'm right. And we saw that happen last year. So do you think that's going to be quite a smooth process? Yes, from my understanding, there was some uncertainty in terms of the House, because you've gotten
00:28:14
Speaker
a new leader of the House coming in. He was Republican and he threatened to hold it up. So that was something that was
00:28:23
Speaker
was a threat, let's say. But now you've got a situation where Congress, which is kind of like being the main champion in terms of the armed services and intelligence committees that are passing this through. So hopefully this is going to be a smooth transition. And then by the end, so that should hopefully go through. Oh, gosh, in the next two days because Congress packs up on the 15th. So yeah, hopefully it happens in the next two days or so. And then by the end of the year, it should hopefully
00:28:49
Speaker
be signed by Biden and I doubt he wants to be the first president for 60 odd years, not to pass this legislation, especially at the time we've got global threats rising. So yeah, I think that will go smoothly through and let's see what comes following that.
00:29:06
Speaker
Absolutely. Yes, it'd be interesting to see what comes. I think one thing that I'd like to just touch upon briefly before we end is that I still hear a lot of people saying we want more hearings. We want to hear from more people being subpoenaed to appear in front of Congress.
00:29:24
Speaker
all the names that we know of works for the government or in UFO programs potentially. Do you think that's something that's likely to happen next year? We had it once this year. Do you think we'll see more of it?
00:29:42
Speaker
So I put out a report that it was likely that following the signing of the National Defence Authorization Act that sources are stating that it's kind of likely that we might get hearings immediately after public hearings as well. But I think in terms of the conversations I'm having, I mean the tone seems to have changed. I think people were confident that
00:30:06
Speaker
that may happen. So I'm unsure at this moment if that may happen. I think it's a good idea. I think it's a really, really good idea. I think in terms of a public relations exercise, it would be very good because in my mind, in my mind, you can firstly establish in the public eye that we're not dealing with
00:30:29
Speaker
drones and whatnot because that New York Times article really did muddy the waters. So you establish that first, so you bring out people like Frayver, like Deidre, like Kevin Day perhaps, or anyone like that basically, you just establish the fact that we're not dealing with this stuff. You know, even Ryan Graves would be fantastic. So I think we would do that first and any new witnesses as well that would be able to appear, but mostly we would do people that have been established there in the public eye anyway, at least known to people like us, but not
00:30:57
Speaker
that you know by a mainstream, more mainstream audience and I think it would make sense to do that in January and you would hope that that would happen during a time where
00:31:09
Speaker
you don't have an Amber Heard and Johnny Depp court case hogging the headlines. So you do that and then what you could do is you could then transition it to your Elizondo's in melons at that point in terms of public hearings and then you would allow them to kind of like transition to this into like, yeah, weird stuff is being seen too. Look, there's this that happening as well. There's obfuscation behind the scenes.
00:31:35
Speaker
these alleged retrieval programs which I've got certain do exist so I mean you've got that happening so I mean I'm keeping my I'm keeping my nose close to the crown of this and you know I was the first to report the hearings back in May so I'm hoping to
00:31:54
Speaker
kind of like be correct on this as well but you know either way I view this I come from this at a place in terms of look there's a there's a major major scandal happening like huge beyond all imagination in terms of this UAP stuff and the potential cover-up so I approach the story as a scandal and what you usually do is you talk to the whistleblowers when it comes to this kind of stuff you know you talk to whistleblowers and
00:32:24
Speaker
I get the impression at the moment that let's compare this to Watergate, you know? So you've got a situation where if this is Watergate, you've got the New York Times and defense journalists talking to Nixon.
00:32:40
Speaker
and his staff oh there's no cover-up cool we're going to report that to the we're going to report that to the world now no cover-up nixon says nothing going on here nothing to see no drama end of story you know that that that's that's exactly what it's like with
00:32:58
Speaker
of what's going on with the these reporters and it's awful it really really is awful and um i think the other thing i don't like to criticize journalists but i mean even me being someone who views this as a scandal at least in my stories i also allow susan goth to have her say as well or the pentacom to have their say
00:33:17
Speaker
So I can balance out and say look he said she said whatever, you know, I did that with the US Air Force Story that I recently did with you know people being threatened and stuff in the US Air Force Which by the way did a complete kind of like 360 and how they viewed this at first they were going to work for you AP task force for instance
00:33:34
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And then all of a sudden, they just back down. But that's really, really how I see this, you know, the New York Times reporter Barnes, he could have gone to, he could have gone to Liv, he could have gone to Mellon, just to kind of like say, look, this is what's coming out from my sources. This is what's coming from the Pentagon in terms of goth.
00:33:53
Speaker
what do you say? Like surely you know like liberation time is not holding as like some international treasure you know but still I feel that I should you know for my readers provide two sides where possible it's not always possible I agree but given the resources and the reputation of the New York Times the fact that it couldn't talk to two separate sources and also went against its own practice as well and providing anonymous sources
00:34:21
Speaker
really really harkens that something is going on and look I'm
00:34:25
Speaker
I realize that anonymous sources are really, really important when reporting matters of like national security and stuff. You know, that's really important, but that makes it even more important than New York Times case to speak to someone from the other side to get another steer on it. Um, apologies. I'm really, really passionate about this, Vinny. Um, but yeah, that's, that is how I feel about the story. Um, but yeah.
00:34:55
Speaker
What I can say is I think there's gonna be really, really good stuff coming from both Daily Mail and Liberation Times next year, I think. There's some great stuff coming out and the year's not even over yet, so who knows what else we can see.
00:35:09
Speaker
Absolutely and look forward to seeing what you come out with and I really appreciate you joining me today and we could have sat and gone through all 33 pages but I think we just sort of wanted to touch upon the key points and for anybody who does want to delve deeper like I said the link below you can find Douglas Dean Johnson's article which links to the 33 pages of UAP provisions so please by all means go and dig deep do your own research and make your own mind up how important you think it is but
00:35:37
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Thank you again, Chris. Really appreciate it. Thank you to everyone for watching. We should have some more shows coming out between now and Christmas. So please make sure you like, comment, subscribe and all that good stuff. But for now, everyone, thank you and we'll see you soon. Goodbye. Thank you.