With another set of UFO hearings on the horizon for early September, there are a lot of moving parts as first hand witnesses are said to be ready to testify , Skywatcher goes through some potentially major changes & members of Congress argue online with big UFO names. To discuss this and a whole lot more I am enjoyed by Pavel Ibarra, from the Psicoactivo Podcast


Current State of UFO Hearings
Firsthand Witnesses and Their Impact
Potential Witnesses and Their Credibility
Skywatcher and Government Involvement
New Whistleblower and His Claims


Psicoactivo: https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast

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Breakdown: Chaos, Hearings & New UFO Whistleblowers


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In this episode Will Brown continues to discuss the Nazca mummies and answer your questions!


Listener questions and final reflections

Questions of authenticity, transparency, and peer review

Ancient civilizations, elongated skulls, and cultural practices

UFO sightings, artifacts, and potential hoaxes

Challenges in academic and online discourse


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(Pt.2) The Nazca Mummies: Red Flags & Revelations, (w/Will Brown)

(Part 1 of 2)

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In this episode I take another look at the ongoing Nazca Mummies saga with researcher, author, and filmmaker Will Brown. Will shares his firsthand experiences and insights on the controversial Nazca mummies, weaving together tales of elongated skulls, grave robbers, and potential ancient rituals. But, is there a Non-Human explanation?

Meet researcher and filmmaker Will Brown
The Nazca Mummies: discovery, examination, and controversies
Scientific analysis, anomalies, and red flags
Historical context, petroglyphs, and the Nazca Lines
David Grusch’s influence and credibility in the UFO conversation
Political turmoil, speculation, and community debates
Scientific investigations and future prospects


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The Nazca Mummies: Red Flags & Revelations, (w/Will Brown)

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In this episode, Andy discusses the latest UFO stories including comments from Representative Anna Paulina Luna on the Joe Rogan Podcast, intriguing online exchanges between Luna and Lue Elizondo, and the hot topic of a potential alien object nearing Earth. Also included are updates on Ross Coulthart leaving 'Need to Know', the relevance of the Nazca mummies, and listener questions. 


Luna on Joe Rogan
Key Moments and Claims from the Interview
Listener Reactions and Comments to appearance
Elizondo and Luna online Exchange
Ross Coulthart's Departure from 'Need to Know'
Avi Loeb and the Interstellar Object
Listener Questions and UFO Discussions
Final Thoughts and Announcements

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UFO News Update: Luna on Rogan, Elizondo/SCIF controversy & Loeb on 'Alien' threat

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Retired F-16 pilot Chris Lehto returns to discuss the state of UFO disclosure, the role of whistleblowers, and the growing frustration within the UFO community. We explore the impact of Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony, the decentralization of UFO research, media narratives, and how Chris’s military background shapes his view of the phenomenon.

Skywatcher and UFO Phenomenon
The Impact of Non-Human Intelligence Disclosure
The Role of Governments in Disclosure
Historical Analogies and Secrecy
Pilot Reports and UAP Stigma
The State of UAP Journalism
Facing Ontological Shock
Hypotheses on the Phenomenon and the Universe
Pyramid Discoveries and Advanced Technologies
Final Thoughts


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(Pt.2) The UFO Secrecy Playbook – It’s Been Used Before: Chris Lehto

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Retired F-16 pilot Chris Lehto returns to discuss the state of UFO disclosure, the role of whistleblowers, and the growing frustration within the UFO community. We explore the impact of Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony, the decentralization of UFO research, media narratives, and how Chris’s military background shapes his view of the phenomenon.

Why disclosure feels stuck — and who might be stalling it
Chris Lehto's take on Cmdr. Fravor's testimony
The mental toll of following the UFO topic closely
Are whistleblowers being silenced or ignored?
What decentralised UFO research gets right — and wrong
How media narratives shape public perception of the phenomenon
Is the stigma around pilots reporting UAPs finally shifting?
What disclosure could actually look like — and what it might mean
Chris’s thoughts on ancient tech, pyramids, and the universe itself

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(Pt.1) Secrets, Stigma, and Sightings: Chris Lehto on the UFO Battlefield 

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In this episode, returning guest Karen Alexander, a Crop Circle researcher of over 30 years joins me to look at this years new Circles & get into a bit of the history of the subject:

Karen Alexander’s Background in Crop Circles
What Are Crop Circles Really?
Scientific Investigations & Surprising Findings
Are Crop Circles a Message or a Mystery?
Guidelines for Visiting Crop Circles
Can AI Decode Crop Circle Patterns?
Doug & Dave: Debunkers or Distraction?
Crop Circles, Geometry & Human Consciousness
The Truth Behind the Crabwood Alien Circle
Are Crop Circles Vanishing — and Why?

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Exploring Crop Circles and UFO Phenomena: An Interview with Karen Alexander

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In this episode, I sit down with James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets. We dive deep into the topics of consciousness, psionic phenomena, UFOs, and much more. James shares his personal experiences and thoughts on these subjects as well as his involvement with Sky Watcher.

Whistleblowers and Public Disclosure
Managing UFO Information Like a PR Campaign
David Grusch's Impact and Media Coverage
Challenges and Dangers for Whistleblowers
Citizen Disclosure and Skywatcher's Role
Dr. Beatriz Villaroel and Transient Objects
Listener Questions: Craft, Abilities, and Ethics
Personal Experiences and Family Impact
Ethical Conflicts and Skywatcher's Mission

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From Thought to Reality: Are UAPs Manifesting? w/James Hodgkins

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In this episode, I sit down with James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets. We dive deep into the topics of consciousness, psionic phenomena, UFOs, and much more. James shares his personal experiences and thoughts on these subjects as well as his involvement with Sky Watcher.

👇 Timestamps:
00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction
01:00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction
01:10 Early Psi Experiences & Family UFO Encounters
03:10 Major Contact at 19 & Joining Skywatcher
06:40 Consciousness, Folklore & the Phenomena
15:09 Skywatcher's Journey, Challenges & Transparency
36:47 Psionic Abilities, Inner Voices & Daily Life
48:00 The Nature of UAPs: Craft, Orbs & Thought Forms
01:05:33 Intent, Psychic Phenomena & Manifestation
End of Part 1

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Exploring Psionic Phenomena & UFOs: An In-Depth Conversation with James Hodgkins

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In this fascinating deep dive, I’m joined by Ivan Hannel — best known as the lawyer representing Luis “Lue” Elizondo, former head of AATIP — for a nearly two-hour conversation that explores the legal, political, and human sides of UFO disclosure.

We cover everything from the New York Times article that changed the game, to Ivan’s professional relationship with Elizondo, legal insights into congressional briefings, government secrecy, and… a tease of a potential new whistleblower coming forward.

Ivan's Journey: From Law to UFOs
Meeting Lue Elizondo
The Controversial Congressional Briefing
Mistakes in public
Suspicion Around UAP Disclosure Act
Concerns Over Controlled Disclosure
Legal Perspectives on UFO Evidence
Government Accountability and Ufology

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