** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs **

In this episode, I sit down with James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets. We dive deep into the topics of consciousness, psionic phenomena, UFOs, and much more. James shares his personal experiences and thoughts on these subjects as well as his involvement with Sky Watcher.

👇 Timestamps:
00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction
01:00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction
01:10 Early Psi Experiences & Family UFO Encounters
03:10 Major Contact at 19 & Joining Skywatcher
06:40 Consciousness, Folklore & the Phenomena
15:09 Skywatcher's Journey, Challenges & Transparency
36:47 Psionic Abilities, Inner Voices & Daily Life
48:00 The Nature of UAPs: Craft, Orbs & Thought Forms
01:05:33 Intent, Psychic Phenomena & Manifestation
End of Part 1

🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:
🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join
🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397
🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ
🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast

📲 Connect with the show:
Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast
YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast [http://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]
Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com [http://ThatUFOPodcast.com]

👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!

Thanks for listening,
Andy

🎵 Music Credits:
"Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
"Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL

Exploring Psionic Phenomena & UFOs: An In-Depth Conversation with James Hodgkins

🎙️ Pre-order Andy’s new book Atlas of UFOs now: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs

In this fascinating deep dive, I’m joined by Ivan Hannel — best known as the lawyer representing Luis “Lue” Elizondo, former head of AATIP — for a nearly two-hour conversation that explores the legal, political, and human sides of UFO disclosure.

We cover everything from the New York Times article that changed the game, to Ivan’s professional relationship with Elizondo, legal insights into congressional briefings, government secrecy, and… a tease of a potential new whistleblower coming forward.

Ivan's Journey: From Law to UFOs
Meeting Lue Elizondo
The Controversial Congressional Briefing
Mistakes in public
Suspicion Around UAP Disclosure Act
Concerns Over Controlled Disclosure
Legal Perspectives on UFO Evidence
Government Accountability and Ufology

🔥 Support the show & get bonus content:
🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join
🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397
🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ
🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast

📲 Connect with the show:
Twitter: @UFOUAPAM [https://twitter.com/UFOUAPAM]
Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast
YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast [https://www.youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]
Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com
[https://www.thatufopodcast.com]
👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps!

Thanks for listening,
 Andy

🎵 Music Credits:
"Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK
"Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL



Ivan Hannel on Elizondo, UFO Disclosure – and a New Insider coming forward

** Pre-order Atlas of UFOs: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs **

Another busy week in UFO world, another UFO news round up with a few really interesting moments from Weaponized with Corbell & Knapp, Diana Pasulka smashes an interview out the park &. new evidence coming soon?


Corbell drops locations of UFO interest!
Dustin Slaughter bringing new evidence forward
Diana Pasulka interview with NYT
AARO Tim Phillips brought 'Skeptics' into be briefed
New Under Sec Air Force UFO experiences
Upcoming guests

Tim Phillips - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsKAX6IFORU

Weaponized - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOzth5nQorw

Pasulka - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7n4nctI60c


Get in touch with the show:

📬 https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact

🐦 X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM

📺 YouTube: https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast

📘 Facebook, 📸 Instagram: That UFO Podcast

📧 Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com

🎙️ All podcast links:

https://linktr.ee/ufouapam

https://www.thatufopodcast.com/

Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show.

Enjoy, folks!

– Andy

UFO Black Sites Named, New Evidence Coming Soon & More

** Pre-order Atlas of UFOs: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs **

Carrying on the Breakdown, Dan stayed on with me to answer your questions on some of the news happening, including:

New 'Buga'/'Yumbo' Sphere Controversy
Shades of Disclosure
Community Dynamics and Disinformation
Tic-Tac UFOs and Breakaway Civilizations
Human Technology vs. Alien Craft
Consciousness and Reality
Disclosure and Government Secrecy
Final Thoughts


Check out Dan's work: https://linktr.ee/thezignal


Get in touch with the show:

📬 https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
🐦 X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
📺 YouTube: https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast [https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]
📘 Facebook, 📸 Instagram: That UFO Podcast
📧 Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com


🎙️ All podcast links:

https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
https://www.thatufopodcast.com/


Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show.

Enjoy, folks!

– Andy



Breakdown: 'Sphere' & Loathing, Conciousness & Breakaway Civilisations

There is so much going on in the UFO/UAP world right now. I'm joined by Dan to break down a whole load of news, including:

Delay to hearings

Potential witnesses for upcoming hearings

Garry Nolan's insights on UFOs and scientific skepticism

Electromagnetic signals and UAPs

Historical context and literature

DMT research and other dimensions

Tic-Tac UFOs and breakaway civilizations

Disclosure and government secrecy

Links mentioned on the show:

📝 UAP Petition: https://uapda.org/petition
🎥 James Fox docs: YouTube link
🎙️ Nolan on Peterson: YouTube link
🛸 MUFON Symposium: https://mufonsymposium.com/

Get in touch with the show:
📬 https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
🐦 X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
📺 YouTube: https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast
📘 Facebook, 📸 Instagram: That UFO Podcast
📧 Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com

🎙️ All podcast links:
https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
https://www.thatufopodcast.com/

Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show.

Enjoy, folks!
– Andy



Breakdown: UFO Hearings Delayed – Science, Signals & Secrets (Pt. 1)

Here is your latest news round-up from the last few days in the world of UFOs:

Ross Coulthart clarifies comments

Hearings delayed until September

Pilots of 'crash retrieval vehicles' appearing?

NewsNation recap

Multiple reports drop on UFO sightings

NewsNation recap:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z4a_GK-dkE

Canadian report:
https://science.gc.ca/site/science/en/office-chief-science-advisor/sky-canada-project/management-public-reporting-unidentified-aerial-phenomena-canada#appendix-b

NUFORC report:
https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/2000-ufo-sightings-first-half-2025/

Get in touch with the show:
https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: That UFO Podcast
YouTube: ⁠⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast [http://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]
Email: ⁠⁠UFOUAPAM@gmail.com

All podcast & associated links:
⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/ufouapam
https://www.thatufopodcast.com/

Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show.

Enjoy, folks!

– Andy

UFO Hearings Delayed, Coulthart Follow-Up & Sightings Increase

We continue to look at the news stories that have dominated the headlines in recent weeks but also the first half of 2025, including:


Age of Disclosure: Missed Opportunities?
Skywatcher: Promises and Skepticism
Whistleblowers and Public Perception
AARO Leadership and Future
Observatory's Sky Scans
UFO Data and Public Perception
UK UAP Hearings and Legislation
Closing Thoughts


Check out Dan's work: https://linktr.ee/thezignal


Get in touch with the show:

https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: "That UFO Podcast"
YouTube: ⁠⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast⁠⁠ [https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0]
Email: ⁠⁠UFOUAPAM@gmail.com
[%E2%81%A0%E2%81%A0UFOUAPAM@gmail.com]

All podcast links & associated links:

⁠⁠Linktr.ee/ufouapam [http://Linktr.ee/ufouapam]⁠
https://www.thatufopodcast.com/


Don't forget to subscribe, like and leave a review of the show


Enjoy folks,

Andy



Breakdown: New data, deception & missed opportunities

A bonus episode for you this weekend to look back at my first roundtable conversation from August 2020, but there's a big reason this one is worth checking out. These are three witnesses to the Tic Tac event of November 2004, all from differing expertise and vantage points. Very much worth diving into given the huge talking points Ross Coulthart, Eric Burlison & others have brought up around the origins of the Tic Tac craft. 


Recounting the 2004 Nimitz Encounter  
Personal Experiences and Reactions  
New Revelations and Classified Information  
Speculations on the Origin of UAPs  
Impact on Military and Public Perception  
Certainty of Radar and Visual Sightings  
Radar Capabilities and Debunking Theories  
Underwater Craft 
Data Collection and Chain of Custody  
Future of UAP Disclosure  


Get in touch with the show:

https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: "That UFO Podcast"
YouTube: ⁠⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast [http://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠UFOUAPAM@gmail.com

All podcast links & associated links:

⁠⁠Linktr.ee/ufouapam [http://Linktr.ee/ufouapam]⁠
https://www.thatufopodcast.com/


Don't forget to subscribe, like and leave a review of the show

Enjoy folks,

Andy



Bonus: Tic-Tac witness Roundtable (Kevin Day, Gary Voorhis, PJ Hughes)

* Part 1 of 2 *
** Pre-order Atlas of UFOs: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs **

I am joined by Dan to discuss a range of breaking UFO news, including Ross Coulthart's explosive claim about Tic-Tac technology being developed by Lockheed Martin, updates on the Sky Watcher project, and the latest whistleblowers. We also delve into the implications of recent UFO sightings and tech, a new observatory's potential astronomical revelations, and the debated impact of government legislation on UAP disclosure.

The Tic-Tac Incident
Ross Coulthart's Bold Claims
Debating the Tic-Tac Technology
The Nimitz Encounter Breakdown
Lockheed Martin and Advanced Tech
Community Reactions and Speculations
The Drone Debate
MUFON material analysis coming

Check out Dan's work: https://linktr.ee/thezignal

Get in touch with the show:

https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: "That UFO Podcast"
YouTube: ⁠⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast [http://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠UFOUAPAM@gmail.com


All podcast links & associated links:

⁠⁠Linktr.ee/ufouapam [http://Linktr.ee/ufouapam]⁠
https://www.thatufopodcast.com/


Don't forget to subscribe, like and leave a review of the show

Enjoy folks,

Andy

Breakdown: Tic-Tac, Alien or Human tech?

** Pre-order Atlas of UFOs: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs **

With so much news in the last few days, here is a round-up of whats going on right now with the UFO topic, including:

Ross Coulthart told the Tic-Tac was Lockheed Martin technology
The 2024/25 Drone flap was Chinese/US 
Baltic Sea Anomaly expedition
MUFON promise results of exotic material


Check out Graeme's channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq4XkDeGQCI&list=PLTtqtD1VMqymtHxwLgj_JZNH78gfQI9Bu

Check out Coulthart & Zabel NTK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmxyApOGPCA&t=3212s


Get in touch with the show:

https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact
Twitter: @UFOUAPAM
Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: "That UFO Podcast"
YouTube: ⁠⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast [http://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast]⁠⁠
Email: ⁠⁠UFOUAPAM@gmail.com


All podcast links & associated links:

⁠⁠Linktr.ee/ufouapam [http://Linktr.ee/ufouapam]⁠
https://www.thatufopodcast.com/


Don't forget to subscribe, like and leave a review of the show

Enjoy folks,

Andy

"Tic-Tac UFO was human origin", Exotic material results soon & more

Bringing you up to date news, interviews and guests from around the world of
UFOs, UAP & connected phenomena

That UFO Podcast

A podcast network for creators discussing UFOs, the esoteric, spirituality & related phenomena. Multiple voices, one phenomenon

Anomalous Podcast Network

Andy Mcgrillen's Show

Clips of interviews based on UFOs, aliens, exotic technology & non-human intelligence , government secret, mankind & mankinds

Andy Mcgrillen

Shows