Release 4 of the US government’s UFO files has arrived, bringing 23 videos, three NASA images and 14 documents spanning more than 70 years.

Andy reviews the most interesting footage, including several fast-moving objects and one unusually clear structure, before examining NASA’s STS-80 images and recent comments from NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman, who acknowledged that NASA has captured imagery it still cannot explain.

Also discussed:

Dr. Phil McGraw’s early access to the files and his White House advisory connection
An unknown object tracked near the Pantex nuclear weapons facility in 2015
Military Range Fouler reports from 2019 and 2020
The classified 1949 Los Alamos green fireball conference
Early Project Sign analysis
CIA and Project Blue Book documents
What is genuinely interesting, what may be prosaic and what is simply older material being repackaged

Does Release 4 move the story forward, or are we still waiting for the evidence that changes the conversation?

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UFO Files Release 4: NASA Images, Pantex Incident & Secret Documents

Jason Samosa returns for part two of our huge conversation, as we move deeper into the Collins Elite, religious interpretations of the UFO phenomenon, demonic narratives, alien deception, hybrids, TTSA, and the modern disclosure movement.

We discuss whether some within government and intelligence circles may have viewed the phenomenon through a biblical or occult lens, how that belief system could influence secrecy, and why apocalyptic predictions and “something is coming” narratives can shape the way people behave.

Jason also gives his thoughts on To The Stars Academy, the hybrid narrative, competing factions around disclosure, and whether the battle over UFO transparency is really a battle over who gets to control the story.

A wide-ranging second half covering some of the strangest and most controversial threads in the modern UFO conversation.

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1: Jason Samosa Part 2: The Collins Elite, Hybrids & The Disclosure Control System

Jason Samosa joins me for part one of a huge conversation tracing the UFO topic from the post-war era through Roswell, Cold War secrecy, private industry, religious influence, and the early roots of disclosure resistance.

We discuss claims around Nazi technology, Operation Paperclip, why the post-World War II national security state created the perfect conditions for secrecy, what Roswell may represent in the wider story, and whether UFO secrecy was ever as simple as “the government knows aliens are real.”

Jason also explains why the modern disclosure debate may involve more than classified files and recovered craft, with competing factions, private power, religious framing, and narrative control all playing a role.

Part two continues with a deeper dive into the Collins Elite, demonic interpretations of the phenomenon, hybrids, TTSA, and the modern disclosure movement.

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Jason Samosa Part 1: Nazis, Roswell & The Hidden Roots of UFO Secrecy

Welcome to another, of what we hope will become a regular weekly or bi-weekly catch-up between Andy from That UFO Podcast and Pavel from Psicoactivo.

In this episode, Andy and Pavel break down the latest major claims from Dr. Eric Davis, including his comments on alleged alien species, Skinwalker Ranch, Roswell, cattle mutilations, the hitchhiker effect and what can or cannot be said publicly.

The conversation also digs into the wider state of the UFO topic right now, including Gerb’s questioning, Hal Puthoff, Skywatcher, alleged orbs, counterintelligence concerns, the problem of cult-like belief systems, and why so many people in this space seem to be pulling in different directions.

Dan Cleary from Others From Another Mother also jumps in for part of the discussion, adding his thoughts on skywatches, CE5-style claims, evidence, and where the community should draw the line between open-mindedness and belief.

The show finishes with discussion around Vanguard, Matthew Brown, Dylan Borland, whistleblower support, and what kind of questions the community should be asking next.

A loose, honest and wide-ranging UFO roundtable, with plenty of disagreement, humour and big questions.

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Skinwalker, Skywatcher & The UFO Civil War

Andy is back with a packed UFO news update as Roswell anniversary week collides with new disclosure rumours, congressional pressure and major debate inside the UAP community.

In this episode, Andy looks at the latest claims around a possible July 8th announcement, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments that an announcement is coming soon, David Grusch’s 60-to-90-day window, and the MKUltra hearing.

Also discussed: Ross Coulthart pressing Lue Elizondo over alleged Legacy Program connections, Elizondo’s response on Cuomo, Burchett and Elizondo appearing with Sean Hannity, UAP Gerb questioning Hal Puthoff and Avi Loeb on Fresh Freedom, Eric Burlison’s comments on a confirmed 1952 MIT Lincoln Lab reel-to-reel audio file, and Stephen Greer’s call for a global bypass of the US disclosure process.

Plus, Andy answers listener questions on soft disclosure, crash retrievals, China and Russia’s silence, the Legacy Program, David Grusch, and whether the public is being dragged through another cycle of “soon.”

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Roswell Week, Legacy Program Pressure & The “Something Is Coming” UFO Rumour Cycle

Former United States Marine Michael Herrera joins That UFO Podcast to discuss his alleged 2009 encounter in Indonesia involving a massive advanced craft, armed personnel, and a story that has only become darker and more complex over time.

We get into what he says he saw, why he believes the object looked manufactured rather than traditionally “alien,” what happened afterwards, and how he now connects the incident to UAP secrecy, black programs, psionics, whistleblower protections, Congress, AARO, David Grusch, Steven Greer and the wider disclosure conversation.

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Michael Herrera: The Marine Who Says He Saw a Secret UAP Operation

In this special live discussion, I’m joined by Pavel from the Psicoactivo Podcast to break down one of the biggest flashpoints currently developing in the UAP conversation.

Ross Coulthart and UAP Gerb have both raised serious questions around Lue Elizondo’s alleged past role within the so-called legacy program, his possible involvement in controlled disclosure, and whether he would be the right person to lead any future UAP transparency effort.

We discuss what Ross said, why Gerb’s comments have landed so strongly, the rumoured “UAP czar” role, the divide between controlled disclosure and full transparency, and how David Grusch may have changed the entire direction of the conversation.

We also get into the wider implications for whistleblowers, national security, amnesty, The Age of Disclosure, Jay Stratton’s upcoming book, and whether the UAP community is entering a new and more fractured phase.

This is not about character assassination. It is a conversation about trust, disclosure, secrecy, and who the public should rely on as this topic moves forward.

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The UAP Legacy Program Fallout: Elizondo, Gerb, Coulthart & Controlled Disclosure

Andy joins the Doomer Friday crew for a wide-ranging discussion on the Disclosure Forum, the reaction to the event, the role of new UFO organisations, and whether the public is being prepared for genuine disclosure or a heavily managed version of it.

We get into the tone of the Forum, the awards, the lack of truly new information, and the bigger question of what these events are actually trying to achieve. The conversation also turns to whistleblowers like Matthew Brown and Dylan Borland, possible executive action around protections, the rumours of a UFO “czar”, and whether any future disclosure process will prioritise truth, accountability, or control.

This one goes deep into amnesty, historical crimes, classified reality, national security, the threat narrative, global disclosure, and whether the world would actually change if the truth finally came out.

A huge thanks to the Doomer Friday team for having me back on.

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The Disclosure Forum reaction
Was the event serious enough?
Awards, optics and public trust
Whistleblowers and legal protection
Matthew Brown, Dylan Borland and Vanguard
The possibility of a UFO czar
Controlled disclosure vs full disclosure
Amnesty, accountability and hidden crimes
Would the public care about the cover-up?
Is “reality classified”?
The threat narrative and national security
What disclosure could actually look like
Why the world may not change overnight

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The Disclosure Forum, A UFO Czar & Controlled Disclosure | Doomer Friday

This week’s UAP news is moving fast.

Andy breaks down the newly discussed UAP Science Advisory Council connected to Avi Loeb, the controversial appointment of Michael Shermer, Anna Paulina Luna’s comments on possible new UAP file drops, the upcoming MKUltra hearing, and the Disclosure Foundation Forum in Washington DC.

From Congress and science to intelligence secrecy, whistleblowers, psychology and public trust, the conversation is no longer just about whether UFOs are real. It is about who controls the information, who gets brought into the room, and whether we are seeing real transparency or the next stage of the cover-up.

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UAP Cover-Up: Is Disclosure Entering Phase Two?

Andy is joined by John Priestland and Dr Martin Abbass from Unhidden, a UK-based, medically led organisation looking at one of the most overlooked parts of the UAP conversation: the people.

Their new report, *Preparing for Disclosure*, asks what might happen if society is confronted with information that fundamentally changes our understanding of reality, and whether governments, health systems, doctors, therapists and communities are remotely prepared for the psychological and social impact.

This conversation explores stigma, experiencers, mental health, ontological shock, public health preparedness, the role of clinicians, and why disclosure — if it ever comes — may not only be a political or scientific issue, but a human one.

A different kind of conversation, but an important one.

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