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Joe v Jon v Nuclear 3-Ways
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Today we talk about podcast hosts and news hosts. Where do we get our news and what satire seems closer to real life than parody?
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Okay. Okay. Good morning. Good afternoon.
Introduction and Podcast Format
00:00:03
Speaker
And good evening. Welcome back to the podcast. My name is Adam and Hey, it's a cool 69 degrees outside. I hope that you're feeling nice and sweaty in your home. And, um, just know that I'll be there after dark to give you your nighttime spanking.
00:00:20
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And if you don't know what that means, I'm here with my buddy, Danny Guarantee. He helps me co-host the
Engagement and First Listener Question
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podcast. That's our cue where we take questions from the internet and we answer them as if anybody to gives a shit to hear what we had to say. Right, Danny? Hi, I'm Danny Guarantee. And if you look at this chart behind me, you can see that there's a nice warm front coming in right where you are.
00:00:40
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Oh, yeah. Sorry, Terry. Sorry about that. Hi, Mom. Yeah, you're both of our mom now. Oh, she's my mom and you're my dad. um Yeah, I'm your dad. em um So, yeah you know what? We're going to try to let really hammer through a couple of questions today. ah you know We have a couple of them. a couple from different... I said users from different listeners.
00:01:06
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um And we're just going to try to get through a couple of them today and and maybe see if we can hit that 20-minute mark. What do you say, Danny? I think that's a great idea and something we should definitely do. Let's see if we can make this a quickie. Ready? All right.
00:01:20
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right. What's our first question? I don't know if this person wants to be... ah called out. We didn't ask, so I'm not going to call them out. But no, you know who you are. I know who you are. And we all ah thank you for your service.
00:01:34
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Now this question came in on our news youtube channel. on our youtube Yes, the very first YouTube question has arrived. We have a YouTube now at YouTube slash.
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Preference: Joe Rogan vs. Jon Stewart
00:01:55
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Would you rather listen to Joe Rogan or Jon Stewart for two hours nonstop?
00:02:02
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ah Well, that i mean that's an easy one for me. um Yeah, it's a pretty pretty easy one for me as well. Yeah. So, well, you and I discussed this briefly before we recorded because you wanted to make sure that we were tactful in how we talked about this.
00:02:20
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So... I'm going to let you just say what you want to say first, because I'll probably have more to say about it. Yeah. Okay. So personally, ah because I will not have too much to add, I don't really listen to either of of them.
00:02:35
Speaker
I would listen to Jon Stewart. I'd be more like likely to listen to Jon Stewart first. I did. He strikes me as a great guy. I've seen the videos of him going to bat for like the 9-11 responders who all started getting cancer.
00:02:53
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ah and And he seems like the kind of guy that really stands behind what he talks about. i personally ah don't love the idea of And this is this could be wrong. Even Adam was saying I was wrong before the show.
00:03:12
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And I'm willing to accept that and give it a try. But I always felt like this downplays politics. And I don't think that, especially in today's world, that is something we should be downplaying.
00:03:23
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Uh, but Adam was telling me earlier that these shows actually do a better job than I'm giving them credit for in making sure you get what actually is going on in the news and it's serious, but then they throw in a quip or two just to keep the mood from getting too crazy. Uh, and if that's the case, I'm sorry. I misjudged you, uh, Mr. Stewart, uh, Joe Rogan has a very different Wikipedia going Is that where you're looking at the Wikipedia? I'm looking at the Wikipedia for both of them because I don't follow either of them.
00:03:58
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And ah yeah, he just doesn't seem like my kind of, like you said, there's a lot of like Manosphere stuff and other things that I'm not ah part of.
00:04:10
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I don't think that I would be listening to this much. That being said, i wouldn't change the channel if it were on only because I like to listen to news from both sides. I like to know what's going on on both sides.
00:04:27
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um I've been saying for years, I am not a Republican or a Democrat. I am part of the me party. I just look at everything I can and I pick whatever I like best.
00:04:38
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And I think that's what everybody else should do. And that's all I really have to say on that matter. ah But yeah, I would probably listen to Jon Stewart first. Yeah, um for sure. i love John. He is definitely in very high up on the hierarchy of just like someone who I'd say that I am a fan of.
00:05:00
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Oh, no, I feel a sneeze coming on. It's going to happen. Look in the light. Look at the light. Oh, crap. Tickle, tickle, tickle. Do it again. Tickle, tickle, tickle, tickle.
00:05:11
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OK, I sneezed off, Mike. I didn't want to do that. OK, there you go I got you. um So, yeah, I just like you said, John is somebody who typically will practice what he preaches. he advocates for a lot of people.
00:05:25
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He stood up to Congress to get 9-11 first responders to care health care that they needed when a lot of people were going to vote
Jon Stewart's Advocacy
00:05:32
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against it. He shined a spotlight on it and. They he joined forces with different veterans and stood outside the Capitol and went in and pleaded and gave speeches and worked on this for years to get.
00:05:46
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health this this bill passed to get them the care that they needed because you know a lot of times veterans just kind of get left behind and first responders who just kind of get left behind and just there's a lot of you know there's just a lot of people who get forgotten even though people say like oh thank you for your service right but that's all the thanks we often give them and we enjoy a day off ah you know, in Memorial Day. And then we have our first responders who don't get enough credit that they get, especially during pandemic times and emergencies.
00:06:17
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So I just think he is just an advocate, which is something I am very big into is advocacy. And he is Also his show was great. I think, that I think the daily show is wonderful and I'm so glad that he came out of retirement to host the show once a week, but also he spotlights so many other people by rotating the hosts so that different kinds of people can get their shot at being an anchor and being in the spotlight and trying their own practices at jokes and, and, uh,
00:06:46
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delivering the news and he has a very diverse and interesting cast of people that do that. And a lot of great comedians got their start there. And yeah, I just think he just generally tries to do, he's like up there with Sam Reich for me as like someone who I think is just an inspirational person.
00:07:03
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um Joe Rogan, on the other hand, And I will say with The the Daily Show, like i feel like because the news is so crazy lately that The Daily Show gives me more concrete news than the actual news anymore because everybody else is just fighting each other or they just poke fun at the news. And what I love about This Daily Show is they poke fun at everybody.
00:07:21
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It's not just like we're a liberal show and we attack the the Republicans. It's just like we you know give show you what's going on in the world. And oftentimes when John's on there, he will. give a very impassioned speech, especially if it's something that's important to him.
00:07:33
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But whether it's Democrats, Republicans, if you're doing something stupid, he's
Joe Rogan's Influence
00:07:37
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going to call you out on it. And I just absolutely love that. Um, Joe Rogan, on the other hand, there was a time where I was a fan of his long before he started podcasting. Like I really appreciated his time on, um,
00:07:50
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uh what the fuck was fear factor uh he definitely showed up he there was a reason why he was the host he wasn't afraid to do anything and then he went and he got into like the whole UFC thing and I was like okay cool whatever like I wasn't a huge fan but I appreciated the energy that he brought to it in the spotlight he brought to like really enhance the product um yeah somewhere along the way I don't know when the podcasting happened mean I gotta be honest with you there was an episode I watched yeah only Well, most I shouldn't an episode, but an interview on an episode that I watched during the Democratic primaries. What was it?
00:08:24
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Over the pandemic, was it? I can't remember when there was like 13 Democrats that were trying to win the primary for presidency. And there was a guy named Andrew Yang that was getting ah just shafted left and right.
00:08:36
Speaker
And I got to tell you, at the time, i was part of the Yang gang. I'm not anymore, but- Oh, I remember him. Do you remember Andrew Yang? He was like, make make America think harder. Math was his whole thing. He wanted to bring this thing called the freedom dividend that like would tax billionaires and like heavier companies that aren't paying their share. And they would take that money and distribute it across the country to everybody. like Once a month, you'd get $1,000 to ah stimulate the economy. Yes. um And they all said it was stupid until pandemic times hit and everything. And they implemented something kind of like that for a while.
00:09:07
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And- You know, but they didn't want to listen to him because like, like, ooh, that's crazy. um And, you know, he had some other wacky ideas later, I discovered once all the elections were over that I didn't quite agree with. But I was just like, but I appreciated that he was somebody who at least brought some new radical ideas into the mix because everybody everybody just wants to do the same thing all the time.
00:09:25
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They either want to roll something back or push something forward that was already there and just act like it's progress. And it's not. Yeah. problem I have with all political parties really. And, um, and I wouldn't have known anything about him had it not been for Joe Rogan, giving him a chance to talk on his show in front of a lot of people.
00:09:44
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And I just happened to see like a preview, somebody on my, I think I had Facebook at the time, or I forget what i was, or maybe Twitter, somebody I trusted shared it. And I was like, all right, let me see what this Andrew Yang guy's all about.
00:09:55
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And I really enjoyed what he had to say. And I was thankful for Joe Rogan. He was like, no one else will give you a spotlight. I want to give you some time to talk. And I respected that. at At the time, his show wasn't like all Manosphere-y like it is now.
00:10:07
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But I think he learned somewhere along the way that all these like tough jock alpha quote unquote dudes, bros, like from UFC and everything were really kind of jacking up his viewership. And he just leaned into bringing crazier and crazier people and amplifying crazier and crazier theories.
00:10:25
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And then lately he doesn't seem to take responsibility for some of what's going on because he kind of helped push certain people into power with his influence. And he doesn't seem to understand that he did that, or at least he doesn't seem to want to show any remorse or Give an introspection to like, did I have a hand in this and how can I mitigate it?
00:10:44
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Now, to his credit, lately he has been like, hey, this shit that's going on in the Middle East. Hey, ah this shit that's going on in these speeches, these bills that are being passed. I don't like that.
00:10:56
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Why is the administration doing that? I'm like, good. Keep questioning these things. Maybe you're about to hit like a moment where you're like, I'm learning that maybe what I thought was isn't right or has never been.
00:11:08
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And so. again, would I want to watch it or listen to him for any extended amount of time? No, I catch like 20 second clips on Instagram occasionally to kind of see like him kind of having these light bulb moments, but I don't have any other context to know if I can believe them.
Personal Reflections on Rogan and Stewart
00:11:24
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Uh, you know, but I just don't care to dive too deep into it. I have a lot of other shit to worry about. i don't care that much. Um, uh, at least about what Joe Rogan has to say, but I'm glad that like, it seems like maybe he's waking up a bit, but would i listen to him for two hours on any circumstances?
00:11:40
Speaker
Unless it's like a fear factor marathon. Absolutely not. um John Stewart, on the other hand, he is such a great speaker, an eloquent speaker, an impassioned speaker. ah He's intelligent. Not to say Joe Rogan isn't, but I just think there's a different level of like his emotional capacity to deliver an impassioned speech that I think he's just very interesting, and I could honestly listen to him talk all day. He's just a very interesting person who has a lot of very thoughtful things to say.
00:12:08
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Uh, coming from a Jewish background, he has that, he has that perspective that I don't have. Um, you know, again, his advocacy in the government, um, the way he brings up other people in the business.
00:12:18
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Uh, you know, it's just the kind of person that like i strive to be, i wish I could be just a little bit more like John every day. I just think he's a cool dude. And like, if you don't know much about him, you really should.
00:12:29
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Um, and that's that. So yeah, I would listen John Stewart for two hours straight and I would be happy as of him. I've been reading their Wikipedia's while you were talking. um My vote is Jon Stewart. Holy shit.
00:12:43
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Joe Rogan's Wikipedia is crazy. Now, it's a Wikipedia, obviously. so big you know a thing of salt. Anybody could...
00:12:54
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add or or change it but yeah everything from vaccine misinformation got in trouble for using n-word uh for putting out uh a lot of stereotypes for about jews and stuff a whole lot of very controversial shit that lot of controversial guests who he called transgender people fucking perverts great yeah yeah very nice right this was the big one ah The high school shooting from.
00:13:26
Speaker
Wasn't that him? The Sandy Hook shooter? No, you're thinking of Alex Jones was the dad to it was. It was Alex Jones. Yeah. Alex Jones was the day. Yeah. And that guy's shutting down his podcast anyway. Like now he. Well, yeah, he got it this little thing back and he's losing it anyway. He got sued into oblivion.
00:13:44
Speaker
Yeah. And then he tried to start it back up and he's he's shutting it down again. So. good But yeah yeah, I think I'd listen to Jon Stewart any amount of time over Joe Rogan any amount of time.
00:13:54
Speaker
Yeah. And, you know, we forgot to say it last episode, but, you know, just trying to be a piece of shit this year, you know? Yeah. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. Yes, please. ah For double because we forgot last episode. Just, you know, china when when you think, should I be a piece of shit with Joe Rogan to this? Yeah. Yeah, if Joe Rogan would do it, don't do that. Don't do it.
00:14:15
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Sorry. are joking. Covering my ass. We are just joking. This is not. To be clear. To be clear. It's a joke. This is not, I'm not joking. Don't be a piece of shit this year. um No, I'm not joking about that. Don't be a piece of shit this year.
00:14:30
Speaker
But like, it's not, a lot of times it's not left versus right. It's right versus wrong. And like, you just have to be like, would you say that to the people that are being harmed in this speech or in this show?
00:14:44
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If you feel like it would be awkward to say any of those things around the people who are being targeted, then you know, it's the wrong thing. yeah If you're only comfortable saying something to people who agree with you, it's probably not a good thing to say.
00:14:55
Speaker
Right. like the whole you know We talked last episode a bit about AI and having a yes man. like you just If you're just looking to hang out people who agree with you, you know if you want to be mad, be mad at everything. you know Just don't like you know let your anger be pushed to something productive and not something reductive. Putting other people down is not how you raise yourself up.
00:15:18
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That's just not how you do it. um Anyway, we were trying to do under 20 minutes. Do you want to hit our second question? Because we have another one. Sure. i Thank you ah to our friend, Adrian, who gave us this question. yeah I'm not going to read the whole thing because it is rather long, but I will give you kind of a Cliff Notes version. Okay.
00:15:38
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um And actually, this is perfect because it it really fits in with what we've been talking about so far. ah So this comes from pure pepper 3666 on the nuclear revenge subreddit.
00:15:55
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Oh, he sent us one from Reddit. Yeah. Oh, gotcha. Okay. She cheated on me. So I had a threesome with her former ex-boyfriend and the guy she cheated on me with.
00:16:09
Speaker
So we had a three way with two dudes. two Three dudes, three way. I think so. ah So a few years ago, a their ex-girlfriend cheated on them.
00:16:23
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ah She said she still wanted to be friends, but she lost all feelings and was and was fully in love with this other guy that she cheated on the OP with OP meaning original poster.
00:16:34
Speaker
Right. The person who posted this. So ah because they were kind of heartless about it and basically just not even caring about
Reddit 'Nuclear Revenge' Story
00:16:43
Speaker
OP's feelings, OP decided instead of just letting bygones be bygones, I'm going to literally ah fuck their relationship over.
00:16:52
Speaker
and had a threesome with the girl's ex-boyfriend and the guy she cheated on him with.
00:16:59
Speaker
Oh, wait, she he found one of her exes that's not him and the guy she cheated with. Yes. Boy, that's a that's a lot of legwork. He must have really been interested for a little while. There's a lot of things missing from this. The ex-boyfriend had broken up with her because he came out as gay.
00:17:17
Speaker
ah Okay. So, yeah, you he basically just had a threesome with all of them. And he discovered, how did he discover that the guy she cheated with was also, at in the very least, bi?
00:17:32
Speaker
How did he know that? How did he approach that conversation? I want to know what that conversation looks like. Let me see. Let me save see. Like, hey hey, you know what? I don't know if you know this, but I was dating that girl when you got with her and she just does not seem to care.
00:17:48
Speaker
and the guy's like, oh, you found the boyfriend through Tinder. The new boyfriend that she cheated on him with. Oh, on the Tinder. So he was looking for men to anyway.
00:18:02
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I matched with him, which was quite surprising because I thought he was straight. He didn't know who I was. ah ah She never told him she was in a relationship while she was flirting with him I had a feeling.
00:18:16
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Yep.
00:18:19
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Over the weeks, we learned more and more about each other. And now I had a plan. I suggested we could meet each other at a bar. He agreed. Keep in mind, this is that he is still in a relationship with my ex-girlfriend at this point.
00:18:31
Speaker
Right. We had a great time. One day became many dates. They got along great. Then he found the ex-boyfriend and was able to bring them in as a third. That's nuts. That's great. Is this real? Is this a real thing?
00:18:44
Speaker
that i mean, assuming. So for the sake of the show, I like to assume any post we read is real. I understand that that's not the case. Always, but for the sake of entertainment, I'm going to assume that this is real.
00:18:56
Speaker
Holy fuck. um Wow. I mean, that is a lot of legwork and a lot of just shifts of like ah this guy must be. Well, she he said he was gay because he has to be. I mean, if he's he must be this guy girl. i mean, he has to at least be bi, if not, unless you just closeted and doing things with girls to hide it. But.
00:19:14
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but he's on the app. So, wow. And on Tinder, no less, and not on Grindr, you know, like all the Republican Party is. ah So that is interesting that he hooked ah So that's, I mean. So after the threesome, he told the the new boyfriend that he didn't want to be, that OP didn't want to be a relationship with,
00:19:41
Speaker
Wrecker or didn't want to be a third wheel in this relationship and said, either we have to stop seeing each other to the new boyfriend or you need to break up with the girlfriend.
00:19:52
Speaker
And he broke up with the girlfriend. So the girlfriend. Went to Opie crying about how her new boyfriend broke up with her. And Opie goes, oh, your boyfriend, you mean this guy and shows him, shows her a picture of the three of them.
00:20:11
Speaker
A selfie he took. Wow.
00:20:15
Speaker
That is like some fucking like Herculean level of like revenge. Holy shit. Oh, this is on nuclear revenge. Wow. We. um And then I think he got the girl's mother involved.
00:20:29
Speaker
Yeah, i don't know how much this to believe, but if this is true, that is a lot of legwork. OK, so basically, yeah, she cheated on OP, broke up with him in a very heartless way. So OP got in touch with the new boyfriend and an ex-boyfriend of this girl and had a gay three way with the three of them.
00:20:46
Speaker
Told the new boyfriend that you need to break up with the girlfriend if you want to stay together. And he did. And then when the ex-girlfriend went to OP to cry about it, OP said, oh, you mean this guy that I just had the threesome with?
00:21:02
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And then also apparently got the girl's mom
Debating Revenge Morality
00:21:04
Speaker
involved. Oh, my God. This girl. This is a lot. This girl has a history of dating apparently closeted men or at least by men.
00:21:13
Speaker
I guess. How on earth otherwise? Or that guy just say, all right, penis, we're going to be gay for a little while. You know, I genuinely feel like everybody's a little gay. So, like, well like yeah we've said before, like, everybody's a little gay. Everybody's got a little gay in them.
00:21:27
Speaker
Absolutely. um So that is, I'm starting to think like this woman is just attracted to queer men. Yeah, maybe she likes more effeminate men.
00:21:38
Speaker
weren saying that all gay men are effeminate or whatever, but like, I'm not trying to paint that picture, but chances are, if you like a certain type of guy, there's a higher chance that they're bi or. Yeah, i don't I don't know. But I mean, that's ah that's three strikes right there, lady. I mean. Yeah, that sucks. That's incredible. Wow. We.
00:21:57
Speaker
Um, yeah. So i will say this, um, is it, wait, it was there a question at the end of it or was it just, here's the thing that happened? No, it was just, here's the thing that happened. Okay.
00:22:11
Speaker
So here's to talk about it. Um, even if it's revenge cheating, it's still cheating.
Modern Dating Challenges
00:22:20
Speaker
I'm not a fan of that. I don't think you should partake in wrecking someone else's relationship by,
00:22:27
Speaker
engage by getting them to do things with you without ending things first. um Having said that, totally seems like this gal must have had something coming to her. There's probably a better way to do it, but this is definitely an interesting more interesting story.
00:22:42
Speaker
um I feel like it very much could have also just been like, hey, here's a screenshot of your new boyfriend on Tinder, you know, and here's our messages, um you know, but. it does sound like this woman was playing the field. Like she broke up to give this other dude. And like it's just like, i think it's very strange, but like, I don't care how you feel. I'm breaking up with you for this guy. And then run back to that person and say like, Oh, this guy broke up with me. feel bad for me. And I'm like, that's like,
00:23:08
Speaker
insane to think can do that. That's pretty crazy. What kind of spell do you think you have on this guy that you can just do that? And some people just do that to other people. They're like, well, I'll just go back to you because I don't want to be alone.
00:23:19
Speaker
Like people just don't like to be single for like at all. And they just have backups before well they bring up the other guy. They want all the the benefits of having somebody who will listen to them and all that, but they don't want to have, you know, the commitment.
00:23:34
Speaker
Well, right. It's because, well, it's it's just that they want to have options. And I think yeah that's also what makes dating very difficult now is if you're using apps, because you just have so many options of people to try to connect with that like, oh, I don't want to miss out on this person. Or maybe that, you know. Oh, dude, i hate I hate the idea of dating apps. I'm so glad I don't have to.
00:23:55
Speaker
Yeah. um It's crazy. That is how impersonal it is. oh Oh, yeah. it's it's It's difficult. As a single man, let me tell you, I just don't know. sometimes It's just hard to navigate. so I do not envy you. Yeah. I've met a few people on the apps and had a few relationships that were short.
00:24:13
Speaker
um The ones that lasted the longest were the ones I just kind of met organically. um But yeah, but anyway, but not to say there's anything wrong with apps because, you know, like i said, I had a relationship for about a year or so that I met online. So, I mean, just, but but it's a, lot it's a, it's it's a fucking, it's a work. It's, it's a lot. well Well, the problem I have with it is like, it goes from being genuinely meeting people to throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks. And some people do that. Yeah. I'm not.
00:24:43
Speaker
I'm against that only because it's so soul wrecking for the people involved. Like you hear all the time about people that like, oh, well, you know, I matched with like 100 people and not a single one swiped right or whatever. It's like that's I can understand as somebody going through the job market right now, I can understand how being denied every which way to Sunday really sucks for your your self-esteem.
00:25:09
Speaker
And um on the other side, I don't think it's healthy for people to reduce relationships and stuff down to just a picture and a swipe because it's too easy to just dehumanize it. And and well there are pros and cons to it for sure. Yeah, that's true.
00:25:29
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, there are definitely there's credence to those concerns. i mean, there are good things, too. Like I've met people I probably would not have met. just because like we don't hang out in the same places or way they live a little bit farther away without them. But but they're also, you know, you only get what they want to tell you about. And it is like it is going pretty good if you want like some more casual or like a fuck buddy or something like somewhere. You're just kind of like you're hot.
00:25:55
Speaker
You're hot. Let's do it. Sure. Which is fine. If that's how you want to do it, go for it. Finding friends is harder because I have tried to do that. And regardless of gender, people, like when I'm just trying to meet people just to like hang, it almost always turns into like, oh, I didn't feel a spark. I'm like, I wasn't trying to bring a spark.
Empathy and Toxic Relationships
00:26:14
Speaker
I'm just trying to meet people and maybe some trying to meet people. on Like, I'm not trying to be your romantic partner. I just want to be buddies. And like, even though they're on, like, cause like some apps have like a friend thing and some apps you can put, like, I'm only looking for friends.
00:26:26
Speaker
And so like that way, if they match with you, you go, oh, this person also wants friends, but it's almost never that anymore. It's like, there's always just like a, you know, and like a sexual undertone. Yeah. then I will say too, ladies do have a tough because.
00:26:38
Speaker
Oh yeah, absolutely. they get way more swipes on them. Women typically just get 10 to one. It's funny. I've, I've heard. guys say like, you know, i used to think that, oh, well, you're so lucky you, ah you know, as a hot girl, you get all of these guys.
00:26:57
Speaker
And it must be so nice. And i've I've read stories by guys being like, yeah, so I made a fake profile with a hot girl. And oh my God, I'm so sorry. It's so annoying. yeah It's overwhelming. Yeah, i I could see that. A friend of mine has showed me their profile and she's like, I still have like 80 unread messages and it just feels like an inbox that I can't like. It's hard to have any quality communication because there's just so much input coming in and like I don't know how to interact with it.
00:27:23
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And it just, and a lot of people, even when if I read them, not everybody's very kind. Some people say some very awful things and, you know, they get objectified a lot and it's just, you know, um yeah, I can see how it's tough on that side of things too. So it's just, it is a tricky line to walk, but all that. I don't envy anybody. and Yeah.
00:27:44
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All that, all that to say though, I think in this particular situation, like it's very interesting that this guy happened upon, this new guy on the apps, like he must've hatched his plan already. Like, Oh, I'm going to like get with some dudes and show her or something like, I don't know. Or maybe he's like, Oh, finally I'm free of a girl. I can be with dudes. like, I don't know why you're on the Tinder looking for dudes.
00:28:04
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Um, unless he was just looking for a fix in the first place and hatched a scheme when he saw the guy. But either the way, i mean, it's some hell of vengeance. I'll give you that. But I'm, it sounds like everybody. They do. Yeah. They do preface it by saying they're bisexual.
00:28:18
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Okay, got it. ah Then that makes a lot more sense. But yeah, I'm i'm with you. i don't think two wrongs make a right. I get that what she did is absolutely disgusting.
00:28:29
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Cheating is, in my book, never okay. i don't you know I don't think there's ever really a good excuse for it. I think you should just...
00:28:40
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break up with whoever you're with. I understand if some people can be scared to do that, but I still don't think cheating is the way to go in that situation.
00:28:52
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i don't like this. i I also think, do you think it's too far? Because it is nuclear revenge. don't I think it's too far because you you've not only gotten their back by making the boyfriend cheat on her, but now you've also broken their new relationship, which I get probably feels good. But now you're up to the one plus the ex was just like.
00:29:20
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Salt in the wound. Now you're with the guy, it sounds like, and you got her mom involved. It feels like you basically did everything you could to this girl.
00:29:33
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And while I don't condone what she did, i think it's disgusting. I feel like this went too far. Yeah. I mean, it's ah like, it's hard.
00:29:46
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Again, i often say just cause I get it doesn't mean it's okay. And in this case, I don't know if I totally get it, but like, I'm trying to be empathetic to everybody in this situation. And I'm not saying the girl didn't deserve some sort of penance, but like, I think,
00:30:01
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we don't, if she's having this much, somebody who does that kind of thing where they hop from person to person clearly like has some issues to deal with. um And if they're just like, i'm going to break up with you Like I dated someone who wasn't as toxic, but still was like, they didn't know how to be single for long. So before they would and they were always the one to do the breaking up. And before they did that, they always had someone lined up that they'd wait like a grace period of like a month or two. And then already know that they had a boyfriend ready. That was like, Oh yeah. Whenever you're ready.
00:30:31
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And I didn't realize i was part of that cycle. And I almost broke that cycle by breaking up with her. um But then like I decided to give her a second chance and she used that second chance to find another backup and then break it. So, but like there's, there's a reason for that. Like is somebody who doesn't want to spend a lot of time alone, they have a reason. They don't, they feel insecure to be single or to be alone. I don't know.
00:30:52
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So like, what are you doing all this? Like she clearly already has some issues. I don't think that's going be, do any her any favors so it's gonna make her worse and you started this relationship off from like something toxic so who's to say that this is even gonna be a worthwhile thing for you um you know if all these people decide to get together to do something like the x2 is like yeah i am also bi or gay sure absolutely will too get involved in this three-way it's like you know i'm glad y'all are able to express your gayness together but like again this starts it started off from a toxic thing and almost no relationship starts well that way You know, yeah like it just sounds like you started off on like, you know, the the spark was let's hurt this person, you know. So I don't know. like It's just not a good reason to start a relationship.
00:31:38
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I'm looking at the the comments now. And here's a good one by your avjock. ah saying it was definitely nuclear. So like, you know, that's what this subreddit is all about. So it fits that they went above and beyond. I'll give you that.
00:31:57
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But all parties are the a-hole here. She's garbage. He's garbage. And so are you. The ex is the least to blame, but if he's still around and knows the full story, then he's garbage as well.
00:32:07
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ah You're all world class narcissists. I love a a revenge story as much as the next person, but there's a difference between giving somebody rope to hang themselves and manipulating bad people. I agree with everything they said.
00:32:21
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Right. Well, I think that's what i was trying to get at earlier. Yeah. like There's a way to do it. Everybody here sucks. Right. Like, you know, like let let if you want to give them enough rope to they get themselves in trouble. Sure. But like, yeah, this felt.
00:32:34
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You know, you've tapped into a very dark place and so today and it just yeah, there's nothing good about anything that happened. And that's a lot of fucking effort to just hurt somebody like put that effort into something else. I mean, like I know you're hurt, but Jesus Christ, put that put all that effort into your next relationship. Get back at this girl by finding somebody even better and being happier.
00:32:55
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That's how you
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00:32:56
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get back at them. Absolutely. Maybe just stick to guys. sounds like girls and work on but guys. Yeah. Get finding somebody better. Yeah. Stick to and guys. Yeah. I think that's where I'm at too. I think we are.
00:33:11
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All right. I think we did good. We covered up political podcasters all the way to gay threesomes. I think we covered the game today. Yeah.
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