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Don't Chew Ice
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ya'll i can't remember the full context of this episode, but there's a lot of nerd talk and some general life advice. Also definitely don't chew ice.
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Podcast Setup and Exclusive Content
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kick off on the stream just to make sure everything is cool and kosher. So hello, listeners. We're getting ready to do the streamy part. for hands As you know, I like to give you all a little something extra extra before we record. That way everybody gets a little something different. You know, if you listen here, you hear some stuff that you don't maybe get to hear if you watch the live stream. So I want to make it juicy
Discussion on Black Forest Gummies
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for everybody. And I just want you to know that if you have an Aldi anywhere where you live,
00:00:28
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They sell these giants, like they're called like black forest, juicy gummies or whatever. And they only put like six in a little packet, but they put 38 in a box, 38 packs in a box.
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And they're one of the most delicious, fruity, delightful, sugary little things I've ever had in my fucking life. And I just want you to know that only you get that suggestion on the audio version of this episode.
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I will not be sharing it with the stream. they What were those things called? Oh, man, I should go grab one. They're like these. think it's called Black Forest. I've never heard of these. I can't remember. They sell them at Aldi. Just go find like their gummies.
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um Fuck, no, I feel like I should go grab one, but I already hit the record. No, no, no, because you're not going to show it to the the stream anyway. It's true. But just go if you go to Aldi, they're like they're these Black Forests.
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um
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think it's Black Forest. one of my Yeah, its called here I got a picture. It's called the made with real fruit juice, Black Forest, real juicy, real good. Juicy burst fruit flavored snacks. Snacks. 70 calories.
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Oh, man, they can't be good for you like after you only eat like one or two because got a lot of sugar in them. But my God, there's like six in a pack, which feels like not a lot. But holy shit, they're what gushers should be with how much juice is packed in those fucking things.
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changed my life and then hitch surprised me with a box of them today. And I'm really scared to have. ah So anyway, i just wanted you to know that listeners that that is my recommendation to you.
Guest Introduction and Technical Issues
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That if you, the other people will not get, they will not get. So, you know, take that to the bank, take that to the bank and eat it. um Also, we have Sean on the show. We'll do a proper introduction here in a moment.
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But just want you all hear that. And Danny has a sweet nothing. He wants to whisper to you before we go live on the street. Yeah. You ready for this? Yeah. Nothing.
00:02:26
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He's so sweet, too. Oh, shit. All right, Danny, I think you're ready to ready i can go for it. All righty. That's for you, listeners. Thank you for being here. Thank you for listening. Thank you for everything that you do.
00:02:39
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Giving me and Danny something to look forward to. I appreciate it. so much Tell me when we're live. There's always delay when I Uh-oh, there's no videos. Where's the videos? We're live, but there's no videos.
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Oh, no. Where's videos? Anybody here? Oh, fuck. Nope, that's not a video. and The videos are missing. Where's the ghosts. No one knows we're here.
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What's going on here? What's going on over here? I need my videos. just Hold on, people. Hang on, y'all. We're getting the videos.
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like Somehow I went like Manhattan Southern. Hey, I'm hot and hey, no, we're getting hot and hey, you're.
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ah That's.
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Oh, Daniel, why everything breaking all the time? you can go oh God damn it. just Yeah, you want your layers, Daniel? This doesn't work with layers. It's not an ogre.
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At least they can can at least they can hear us. Hang on. God ignore her behind the look. Listen to the good music. All right. Yeah, i don't put the music back on. We're in it now. This is it.
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No, and don't like that. Why is it? us Did you unlive us?
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Hello? oh I think it's broken.
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I didn't cut it off. No, it's just as it's broke. Oh,
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Sorry, listeners. You know, I know you come here for a quality podcast. And instead, Danny just can't seem to get Streamlabs to work. Streamlabs, why?
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right, I'm going have to restart it. It is ah is frozen solid. Danny, do I need to learn how to do Streamlabs again? Is your computer just not up for the task?
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No, it should be fine. i think i think what happened is... One of the windows that is our camera glitched out and like became super big and now it's breaking everything.
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Which happens a lot. Hey, listeners, I just want you to know that, you know, yes, could we? Could we have worked on this before? Could we have done better? Could we have done better?
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Probably. We apologize. We will do better. or well Or we won't.
Groundhog Troubles and Solutions
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Honestly, probably won't. Or we just won't.
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So, you know, if you want to fast forward about three, four minutes ahead, you might hear a show. um And if you don't, then like, hey, listen. Here, I'll tell you a little story that also probably won't make it under the stream if you want to. There you go.
00:05:47
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Content. um So um I've been at war with a groundhog outside. I think I've mentioned this before. And I tried, like, I fell into desperation, I'm not gonna lie. It's frustrating that I'm a modern man who can't fight an ancient creature. Although he might have the wisdom of his ancestors. I don't know.
00:06:12
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But I've been battling this groundhog for what feels like an eternity. And i tried flooding his home, or at least what I thought his home was the other day. And he disappeared for a long time, and I started to feel really sad that I potentially drowned A groundhog in its home.
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And then yesterday that chunky bitch poked his fucking dopey little head out from under my shed again from a different spot. It turns out he dug two more different tunnels.
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And he has a whole little system of tunnels like the Ninja Turtles under my yard. And I keep finding new holes in my yard. And I think he's doing it to hurt me because I tried to flush him out of his home.
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And I don't know how to get rid of them. And um getting a little I'm getting a little worried because it keeps making new holes under my shed. Oh, either he's going to sink my shed into the earth or the shed is just going to topple over.
00:07:10
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That would really be a real bummer. So if I would be getting rid of ah critters groundhog. I could tell you how my father in law gets rid of them, but I don't think you have the stomach to do it.
00:07:23
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I don't want to kill anything, but also I don't know if it's got kids anywhere. I haven't seen any other ones running around And if you would just like that, we have so much woods around here. Just like go hang out in those woods.
00:07:35
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No, they love undersheds. And so we have a nice big juicy one in our next door neighbor's backyard. Juicy one. a few times. Oh, yeah, he's fat as hell. He's a big boy.
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Wouldn't they be chunky more than juicy? I'm not understanding a juicy knee. they Oh, no, he's got yeah he's got a big ass. He juicy. Oh, no, no we have a ju yeah, but juicy more implies like round, smooth.
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I don't know. He is? Yeah, yeah, I guess he would be more. He's chunky. I believe the kids say these days. I say. All right. i think I think we're good. All right.
00:08:19
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I'm just going to go live. to see if it's refreshed. Just do it. Just go live. We're just jumping right in. yes Just don't it, you know? All right. We're just jumping in. How how are we looking?
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I don't know. What's going on? Hello. there's How are we doing? Yeah. not Could I just. Any signs of life? Could I cut this out? Yeah, I probably could. I'm not gonna. I could, but won't.
00:08:46
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Yeah, why would I? Why would I do that? OK, just got away for a sign of life. People, I really appreciate that you if anybody just lets this play in the background while we're doing this, we we really appreciate it.
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We do. Everybody. It's mighty. Thank you for putting up with us. Yeah, we we really do appreciate it um
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um so yeah it turns out the issue was ah we use stream labs to capture everything and the window my stream labs window looked full screen wasn't full screen and that makes a big difference it does apparently oh As soon as I noticed that, I hit the full screen button and everybody's video snapped back.
00:09:39
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I'll be goddamned. We're back! Well, listen, we're back. We're just going to get into it while we still have internet. So good morning, good afternoon. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, ladies
Soda Addiction and Alternatives
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and gentlemen. Boys and girls, people up, down, all around, and inside and outside the gender binary, my name is Danny Guarantee, and I'm...
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I'm joined today by my friend Adam and I'm not letting him do the intro so that I can steamroll him and tell you all about these really cool Black Forest gummies if you have an Aldi near yeah you. You asked me all.
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I mean if you have an Aldi near me. No! because I don't feel like editing this.
00:10:20
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And when you don't have visuals, audio only is so hard when everyone's talking at the same time. So just instinctively, the producer in me stopped talking. looks Ruined it. We're not going to talk anymore about it. You have to learn all about it yourself.
00:10:36
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Of course, gummies are the LDs. They're really good. They're gushers, but better. Okay, there you go Gushers piss me off because they don't gush as much as you would think they would. The commercials make them seem like they're just explosions of flavor, and they're just simply not.
00:10:50
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They're just not. They're generic. That's pretty good, too. You know what tastes eerily similar to a Nestle's Crunch Bar? What's that? A chocolate covered grasshopper.
00:11:03
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A chocolate covered grasshopper? Never had. Yeah. My cousin had a bag of chocolate bugs and oh he dared me to eat one. I was like, bet.
00:11:15
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I tried to do it quicker than I could think, so I didn't hesitate. And yeah, it tasted like a Nestle's Crunch bar. Oh, yeah. All right. Listen, everybody, we're just going to we're going to get to our questions. We're just going to get to it. But first we have Sean.
00:11:31
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Sean. i I'm not. No one has ever according to my my life. Yeah. According to my audio, you are almost peaking. You are not quiet. I haven't peaked yet.
00:11:41
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I've still got so much left to give. um But anyway, Sean is here from the popular ah production of Gesselheim and formerly Dungeons & Pop. You don't go by that anymore, do you?
00:11:57
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No, no. you eat that that that with that was that That went with... with with ah What's his name? you can't remember his name now. No one knows. No one cares. All we know is your Gesselheim now. Or is it Gesselheim? I always say it wrong.
00:12:10
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i see it I see it both ways. Gesselheim, right? Yeah, i say Jesselheim, but I also ill say Gestelheim usually when we have new people on, I think. Because it's pun.
00:12:22
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Ah, because you have to guess, Solheim, how to pronounce it. um So, hey, listen, we're just going to get into the questions. Sean's here. He's available. We're all available. ah Every single one of us are single men on this podcast.
00:12:37
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Danny, especially, doubly single. um And that we are going to do. What is that on your finger? i don't know. It must be. i think I got some frostbite.
00:12:49
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Oh, that's the ring. I said you're right around my fingers. Yeah. OK. Do you want to pull out the first question, Danny? All right. Hang on I'm going to try and be smooth with it, which can only go well after what just Probably going to up covering Sean's face.
00:13:03
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No, we're not. Ready? Are you ready? Danny is now just going to magically. Well, which which question do you want to do, though? First one about our age? Yeah. okay Let's do that one. I think that one's relatable for almost everyone.
00:13:15
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And ha. Now, it's a delay on my end, so you snapping. wait. Just wait. I guess it'll be good for you. It'll just be. Just wait. It'll show up on the stream. it'll you You'll see it out of the corner of your eye. You'll be like, oh, he's a wizard.
00:13:30
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Bro's a wizard. It's weird watching the stream how your voice still somehow manages to synchronize, even though it's behind. yeah Okay. Danny, do you want to read the question since you have it up?
00:13:43
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Sure. People, so this comes to us from AskReddit. ah Their username is just IVR. IVR, okay.
00:13:55
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Or is that ITVR? Maybe it's ITVR. It's small and I'm blind. So thank you for your question. I think it's a T, ITVR. They want to know, people in your thirty s and 40s What is a minor bad habit from your 20s that you're currently paying for a massive way? ah Sorry, currently paying a massive price for.
00:14:18
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So what did you do in your 20s that didn't seem so bad? But now that you're in your 30s and 40s has. you're You're paying big time for it.
00:14:30
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Mm hmm. I got a couple locked and loaded. Do you guys like have any that just like inspire right away? I do, yeah. Really? yeah Sean, you're our guest. i don't You're a guest, please.
00:14:44
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I drank Mountain Dew. You drank Mountain Dew? drank Mountain Dew. And it got me addicted to exotic flavors. You know what? like Fair enough. What do you mean? No, no. As somebody else who has a soda addiction, i get it.
00:14:59
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Exotic flavors? What do you mean by that? Baja Blast. Code Red. mid Midnight Black, Purple Thunder, the other five Baja Blasts of different... There are all these weird tropical fruits no one else puts... no one else may you have to you have to practically You have to find on the black web, find someone just to have drink mixes that have all these crazy fruit flavors of dragon fruit.
00:15:27
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And I can't remember all the other flavors. Do you have all that? They have like about, they've had over like, I want to say they had at least 50 different flavors since. Dragon fruit is so good. Huh.
00:15:39
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I don't know if I could identify a dragon fruit, but like when I see something that's flavored that I usually get it. Yeah, it's so good. I love dragon fruit. I think there was a blueberry pomegranate flavor at one point. so what is So is it that you are still in your... You're in your what?
00:15:58
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40s now? Yeah. So what is is it that you're still addicted to exotic flavors now? Is that the punishment that became a a thing, and a massive price? Well, I'm i'm type 2 diabetic.
00:16:12
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ah Do you think the Mountain Dew caused it or were you diabetic before? I think it caused it because before i was diabetic, I didn't drink diet. I drank the regular Dew. And even then, even now, like it's something where I've been trying to get off of soda still, but it's still like if it's if it's been a rough day, it's like I want I'm like, I want to, I got a, I want a taste of that that. Oh no. Dragon fruit or whatever, or whatever the I forget what the new Blaha blasts, like the tropical one has different ones or. I'm shocked that there's so many.
00:16:49
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Oh yeah, there's loads. Wow. Wow. the value There's only been one Mountain Dew I didn't like, and you want to know what twitter which one that one is? Diet? No, it's the honey flavor, honey, sweet honey something flavor that they had at KFC.
00:17:06
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That's the crazy thing. They have so many flavors. There are restaurant-specific Mountain Dews. You can only get, like, there's, like, one at a... There's just one at Hmm.
00:17:21
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Um, Taco Bell and one at KFC. Really? yeah. And purple thunder is only at circle K. Danny, I can see you just like, Dixon also called it out in the chat, but just like how i was watching you squirm. ah so Because you also have a soda is issue and you're type 2 diabetes. So my my answer to the question is when I was younger, I really liked soda. I have type 2 diabetes and I'm addicted to soda.
00:17:51
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As you, Sean, was saying that aside from the Mountain Dew specifics, I was like, hey, it's Danny. I started. Yeah, that's why I was like, my God, he stole my answer. It's like Sean's answer is literally the exact same as mine. And yeah, the whole chat noticed. I could just see you just like squirming. I was just like, oh, no, it's not just me. that's incredible way kindred spirits you know you sean yeah i'm in the i'm in like the exact same boat well you found alternatives right well we're we're jumping on the z via train and which is very good but no matter how close something gets to soda it just it's not the same and
00:18:41
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Luckily, I was able to make the jump to diet. And now I'm at the point where diet tastes good and regular soda is too sweet, like too syrupy. I don't like the way it tastes anymore. So that helps a lot.
00:18:52
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Yeah. um But yeah, I mean, it's the same as what Sean said. Like after a hard day or whatever, I'm craving that Diet Coke, man. Oh, man, it gets rough.
00:19:09
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And no ZV is going to do it. I do have one good i have one thing that i have learned to curb it a little bit, at least at work. It's one of the few times they can say, like, I like working at work because they make they have soda, but they also have these flavored waters, like...
00:19:29
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Whereas it's just sparkling water with a flavor and what I'll do is I'll mix a soda with another one. So like there's this one that makes grapefruit sparkling water like with Pepsi or Coke, Diet Coke. So it's even less, it's even less diet. That's good. Yeah.
00:19:45
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I've started um going heavy on ice. So I'll have one cup of soda, but I'll make sure to fill the cup with ice first. So it feels like I have a lot and I have to drink it slowly.
00:19:57
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But it's really only a half a cup of soda, you know, I do that with just water, like with most like if it's like a tea that I got or somebody got me the wrong drink and it's like a sugary drink. I just fill half the cup with water and then yeah, in there. So I dilute it pretty bad.
00:20:14
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It's like half of the drink, half of the water. um Let's see. Also, recently discovered vanilla cola Zevia. The vanilla. oh Yeah, but the black cherry is my favorite. Killer Cola Liquid Death is really good, but expensive.
00:20:28
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Yeah, that's that's Hitch's new favorite, Liquid Death. It's so good. I'm learning Hitch likes colas. Welcome to the club. yes when you come, we'll have soda.
00:20:40
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Dixon said, as a man in his 40s, my video game buying habits, especially after I started working at GameStop, really hurt me in the long run. I spent way too much on games when I could have invested in I'm scared to look at what my steam balance would be.
00:20:58
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I understand.
Impact of Video Game Buying Habits
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I miss physical media, though, but it's the same. I worked at GameStop for a long time, and it was really hard not to essentially shop while I was on the clock. Looking at, like, oh, I get first dibs when a new game comes in, or if I'm going to save a used game that somebody traded in that I've been waiting for for a while.
00:21:20
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like it's just It's hard not to, like, as I'm fixing the the shelves, to maybe tuck something behind something so maybe I can get it later. It was hard. I did that when I worked at Toys R Us. We would hide things in the back room.
00:21:32
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I relate when people would come and ask, like, there's no more copies of this game. Do you have any more in the back room? Nope. No, never. No, no. We don't store things back there. Definitely not. The game I wanted is back there. No. Yeah.
00:21:46
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When you look down at your shirt and tugged on it, I thought you were going to, like, reveal something under your shirt. anyway. yeah it says that was them working at the bookstore i mean how could it not be if you work in a place of things that you like you're like oh my god the new twilight book oh my geez or whatever it is the kids are reading these days it's sad that i've spent more at game stop not buying video games and other stuff you get the other stuff yeah the the tat what's the other stuff adam's gonna adam's gonna go aha yeah oh yeah
00:22:22
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Transformers at GameStop. Oh, yeah, man. Oh, yeah. Oh, transfer. I've never had Transformers in this store when I worked there. I'm not saying you worked in a shitty store.
00:22:34
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But we've never had Transformers. Yeah, they sell figures in all kinds of stuff now. They're all pop culture stuff now. Oh, now. Well, I mean, like in the last, I want to say two, three years.
00:22:45
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I haven't walked into GameStop in a long time. I don't I'm honestly I'm surprised that they're still doing anything because I know they were struggling for a long time. Well, you hear about PlayStation's new directive.
00:22:59
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They're stopping physical games. Yeah. Yeah, that might be the nail in the coffin for that. I'm going to start going. And just picking up as much physical media as I can. There must be ways to download all my Steam games onto a hard drive and save them in a way I can still use them.
00:23:16
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Has to be. Well, Steam, you you should be fine as long as the game doesn't require always online. Yeah, um just I just need to buy a massive hard drive and get them because I paid for them. I should be allowed to have them and I'm going to put every fucking game on it.
00:23:29
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you The really funny thing, though, that you guys haven't seen it, you and Nixon not seeing Transformers, I told you when we met that I thought the Transformer I was fiddling with had to keep you stopping them all. Mine has I don't remember. I'm pretty sure mine have it. Yeah.
00:23:46
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What? That's insane. They have, like, all Transformer toys and stuff. Like, they have all kinds of stuff.
Health Issues from Chewing Ice
00:23:52
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Do you guys remember when McDonald's used to give out those little like shitty little transformer ah toys in their Happy Meals, but they were like McDonald's themed. Someone was was like their old school styrofoam container looking thing, but it was like a turtle thing.
00:24:08
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just saw those at a toy show recently, and I just got hit with a just a blast of nostalgia. Like, holy it fuck. One that's like a pack of fries and shit. You know what I saw a while back that really threw me through a loop was one of those Pokemon plaques that you would have gotten in a Pokeball.
00:24:27
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Yeah. Burger King. I had a Pauline World. I used to force my parents to take me every week because we figured out what day they changed out the toys. And we would go every week.
00:24:38
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to get a ah kid's meal so that I could get my little Pokemon plaque. And I yeah saw one the other day and I was like, God, I wish I still had mine. I got a Polly Whirl. And we actually got them for free because there was such a craze.
00:24:53
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I had convinced my parents to take us to Burger King, even though we always went to McDonald's and they were really suspicious. they're like, why are you guys pushing so hard to go to Burger King? I didn't want to say, oh it's because of the toys, because they would have said no.
00:25:06
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I was just like, oh, you know, because I have a new burger and I want to try or something. And so they took us there and the line was so long because I didn't realize how bad the Pokemon craze was. Oh, yeah. Like they gave out these little Pokemon toys that were like they had like probably 30 individual ones that you could get.
00:25:22
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And i some kid had one at school. it was like a Gengar that his eyes lit up. And i was like oh, fuck, I want something like that. But the the demand for the toys was so great that all of the restaurants were running out. And they just started giving away their collector's items, which are those plaques.
00:25:36
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For free because they were like, we have nothing to give these kids. That's awesome. That's what we got instead was like this Pokeball, which was really nice with a gold plaque. It had like a little gold plaque. I had a Mewtwo on It was awesome.
00:25:48
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Oh, that's so cool. Yeah. What up? Gosh, that was what a time. I unlocked a core memory for Dixie. What a time to be alive. um Wow.
00:25:59
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So Adam. Yeah. What's something you did in your twenty s I chewed ice and my oral hygiene really hates me for it now. It took me a long time to get a lot of the issues I had corrected.
00:26:14
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um I used to chew on ice. And the reason I did it was for my health. I thought chewing on ice was a good thing because I was like, it just feels like I'm snacking, but it's water, so I'm hydrating.
00:26:26
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So I just chewed on, and I would like bite it hard. like Thinking about it now, i'm like how did I just go full thing of ice, suck on it for like two seconds, just like crunch it into pieces? And like I was just like, God, my jaws are like an alligator. I'm so, you know, but I used to just suck on it like a jawbreaker.
00:26:40
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But it like weakened my teeth. And I broke a couple like in my later 20s, just eating something random that had nothing to do with the ice. But I didn't realize i was weakening my enamel and my tooth structure.
00:26:53
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And so one day I was eating a piece of pizza and half my tooth came out with the crust. And I was like, what the fuck? Dude, it was crazy. um And like i was just like, oh, my God, I asked around. I called some friends and my family. I was like, this just happened. And I don't know what.
00:27:07
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And they're like, what are you doing? What have you been eating? You know, what? You know, like, did you get hit? Did you have an injury? Are you grinding your teeth? Like, we went through all this shit. And then someone's like and I remember I didn't think it was the ice at the time.
00:27:19
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Then i went back to doing it because i was like, well, my mouth hurts. isn' So I started putting ice in my mouth. And then I remember this one woman, her name was Brianne. She was a friend of my old roommate. that what wait His sister, excuse me. And she goes, are you showing on ice? You shouldn't do that. That's terrible for your teeth. And i was like, what?
00:27:36
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That's probably what it is. And I was like, I'm sorry. Why is it bad for my teeth? And she was like, yeah, that just like weakens everything in there, man. Like it makes your temperature go down. and Your teeth get brittle. And i was like, I'm sorry. They what?
00:27:47
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And like that happened to Mbeluga too. She was eating a ah ah Jolly Rancher and she's just sitting there like eating it and then suddenly goes. Yeah, it's such a half of her front tooth came out.
00:27:59
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Oh. like I'm so scared of that now because my family already has soft teeth. And so I made it worse. And so like I'm missing like a tooth on either side because like once this one broke, I switched to chewing and eating on the other side. And then I broke that one within like two weeks. And I was like, fuck.
00:28:18
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So like it was rough. It was. Yeah. So I would not recommend if you ever see a child or a teenager or an early 20 something doing that, tell them to fucking quit it. Because, yeah, and I think of you now whenever I drink a drink with ice, you know, like i was saying before and I get a piece, I'm like, don't you? it I just like usually if it's a very small piece of ice, I'll just like those little chips. Yeah. Yeah. I'll swallow it with the rest of the drink. But like I have to fight that urge because I want to chew And I'm like, I said, that's a bad idea. and i believe it Yeah. um Yeah. i think So that was a thing that in my 20s I did that got. I'm like, why the fuck?
00:28:58
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God, Adam, you're so stupid. What else did I do in my 20s? I did that, too. I wasn't a crazy person. Yeah, and I thought it was all the amount juice that caused me to have... I mean, that probably didn't help. I can't imagine soda is good for your teeth. No, it's very acidic.
00:29:16
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um See, I had the opposite. my ah I went to the doctor once and he told me my ah calcium levels were high. But so are my albumin levels.
00:29:28
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I'll be equally high. Yeah, that's what carries the calcium through your body. So when you're you have too much calcium, it's because you can't move it all through your body doing whatever.
00:29:40
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Well, I have a higher albumin level, which means I can move more calcium. And nobody ever confirmed this, but I think that's a large reason of why I have no cavities.
00:29:53
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or anything.
Injuries and Bone Health
00:29:54
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I've never it. Because constantly just like, because it's like super strong. I think it's kind of like the the one robot from iRobot that's like, I have thicker armor, so I can like reach in this thing without breaking. Yeah. I'm like, I think I just have like, I'm big boned.
00:30:10
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I think I just have thicker bones and stuff. Never broke a bone. Neither have I, thankfully. not i'm Not for lack of trying. yeah I am big. but Sean, have you ever broken a bone?
00:30:27
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I have not broken a bone and i have actually gone rolling down a concrete staircase with a wrapped around ah a recliner. Oh, ah you went down a staircase and you wrapped around. Who, who, who? know i retir down i i was carrying a love seat up the stairs. I got to the very top and lost my balance and rolled backwards. And my body was basically, my body was when hit the concrete thing. And I still break a bone. Oh my God.
00:30:56
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And it was like, you got very lucky. Jeez. You just rattled around everything else on your insides. I think, well, actually, wait, I think I actually, I, there's like a, Right here is like a dent or something because I i fell out of a shopping cart.
00:31:10
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I can't remember if I actually broke a bone or... You fell out of the shopping cart, Sean? was eight years old. and so you shouldn't be doing that in your 40s. Oh, when you were eight. Okay. Yeah, because I was trying to get out of the shopping cart and it flipped completely over and I hit first.
00:31:26
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Yeah, the closest I ever got, i tripped and I landed like this and my elbow went out. But it nothing broke. It was just hyper. it Yeah.
00:31:38
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You dislocated it. Wolf. Yeah. Dixon broke their nose when they ran into a wall during gym. And I didn't realize how close to the wall it was. Oh, you broke your nose.
00:31:51
Speaker
So when I was in high school, we had I was in band and we had this thing called it. Well, we called it a Glock, but it wasn't a gun, I promise. which It was like this plastic thing and you'd hit it with a drumstick and make a really loud glock noise like.
00:32:10
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And ah we we would use it to keep time while we're practicing marching and everything. And. My. Classmate had asked for it and they just tossed it to her. This is like. A a small plastic thing, right? It can't weigh more than like.
00:32:29
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a quarter pound or so, and it just hits her perfect in the face and broke her nose. Wonder. It wasn't a hard throw. It wasn't a heavy object. It just happened to hit it right and just smashed her nose in.
00:32:44
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Woof. Right? It's a plastic belt. Yeah. Yeah. Essentially. Insane. Well, ah we know we know what not to do. You know, we learn. We live.
00:32:56
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Careful with your Glocks, kids. Careful with your Glocks. Don't be Glocking, people. Don't don't take your Glock out in public. Yeah, don't don't don't rock out with your Glock out. Oh, so I go with Glock as in, like, Glockenspiel.
00:33:09
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Yes, yes. That's probably where it comes from, not the gun. Would you say Glockenspiel? Yeah, probably cause iphon based on a Glockenspiel, yeah.
00:33:21
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um That would make more sense to me. That makes sense. missing think Is it David Glockenspiel, like a magician? Yes. Yeah. I know, Glockenspiel's a dog. That's what it is.
00:33:38
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Everybody loves Glockenspiel. I'm pretty sure it's a food. It's probably a food.
00:33:48
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I think it's some sort of Pokemon. Glockenspiel. Glockenspiel. Oh, yeah, I can see that. For sure. that's Absolutely. How is there not a Glockenspiel? Yeah, Google's listening right now. Glockenspiel is German for bell play.
00:34:03
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Bell play? Bell play. Oh, so you want to come to my room and Glockenspiel? Oh, yeah yeah. It's just like a xylophone. It's like a pitched percussion instrument consisting of tuned steel or aluminum bars arranged in a piano-style keyboard form. That's what Danny engages in on his anniversary.
00:34:20
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Glock and Shapiro. Sorry, Terry. Thank you for buying your shirt. Um... Also, thank you to to our buddy Dixon for getting some days of the week
Nostalgic Video Games and Their Impact
00:34:30
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shirts.
00:34:30
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um Thank you for sharing on our Discord. They're very vibrant looking. They're even nicer looking than I thought. like i just You never know when you get something and we hadn't gotten a chance to do like test shirts for those yet.
00:34:43
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So they look really nice. um So thank you for sharing a picture of those. So yeah, just as an... as as it is an ah middle of the episode plug. Hey, go to our Etsy store.
00:34:58
Speaker
It's actually on our website now. So if you go is and you click the store part of the page, it should take you there now. It should. i haven't tested it. Cass said she did it. And I believe her.
00:35:09
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um they They look really vibrant. that That yellow really that green too. oo I can't wait to see them on you. I mean, I didn't want that to sound pervy. I can't wait to see them off you. and i want to Yeah, I want i mean, i mean i already saw them off of you. i mean, okay. Well, if it's that kind of stream. i They have to pay extra for that.
00:35:30
Speaker
um We have to go to Only Dance for that one. Yeah, that's behind the paywall. You can't get that away for free on YouTube. um Shall we go on to the next question, Daniel? Sure. hang on. I'm going to do this cool again. Yeah.
00:35:43
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And it just occurred to me as to why it's delayed for us is because we're looking at you on Zencaster and the there's no delay here, but there's a delay when you snap your fingers for us watching it on the stream.
00:35:56
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Although when you do it, They'll see it synchronized with what you say. um But it won't be for me because I've seen you do it seconds before. Apparently it doesn't work with tabs. So I'm not doing it at all.
00:36:09
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i Now this next question I picked specifically because I knew Sean was going to be with us. And I thought it would just be a nice, easy lane to drive down for everybody. Yeah. So I hope that this one's OK for you to answer, Sean. I know it's a bit of a hot button subject, but very controversial. This is going to be i hope you all in the chat buckle in.
00:36:31
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Yeah, because I'm sure that this one is going to turn into like a three hour. the Between Sean and myself, it's going to turn into like a three hour thing. Let's keep it light. Let's keep it fun. Let's not get too serious. The people in chat have already seen it.
00:36:45
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But this question is from OK Middle 84 50 from the Ask Reddit thread. And they ask, what's your most nostalgic video game?
00:36:56
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Now, we all have some opinions and they're all OK, but there's some wrong ones for sure. There are some wrong answers. So.
00:37:09
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Sean, is there a video game that when you think of it, you go, oh, man, like what a game. Oh God, I could just play that right now. Oh my God. That was so fun when I was a kid.
00:37:20
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Like, is there one that just hits you right in the nostalgia feels? Yes. I'm trying to remember which one it is. It's Final Fantasy Tactics.
00:37:32
Speaker
Really? Yeah. Ooh, that's a good one. Why is, why does that one be it? It's, it's, um it, it, it's, it was one of, it was one of the first RPG games I played where it actually felt like,
00:37:54
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I don't want to put it tactical. It's like, um like that was the reason why I originally am when I was working on the Jesselheim game. it I was going with the whole chess board. Yeah. It's got like the little grids.
00:38:09
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Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you have to like move your characters around to get behind everyone and stuff. very It was an interesting way of also introducing mechanics to introduce drama and tension. Because there was like this one fight I remember on it. like you You start out, it's like... a You're in this town, and there's this gadgeteer guy with a gun who's running from the police. And you're like, you're like hey, we need to help him. But but they're so far away that the first couple times I would play through it, I couldn't get there before you he would get killed. And he got the goal of the thing is to save him So like that would be game over, start again.
00:38:49
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and I liked how like it it's it's one of the reasons why i may have a i may i i don't i know D&Ds has some issues, but I'm willing to play it because it's the first tabletop RPG I have with the same feel, where like you can move around. I could see that. Yeah, the little squares, the little grids and stuff.
00:39:11
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Yeah. Tactics and stuff in there. Yeah, i played ah I played a similar game. I think my first introduction to that style of game was... a It was called...
00:39:23
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ah Gemfire. It was an old Super Nintendo game that was like an old kind of medieval looking. Oh, you have dragons or you have wizards and you move like your soldiers, your archers into certain positions and they can attack from whatever.
00:39:37
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um That was my first introduction to that. But the first big one was, have you guys ever heard of a game called Valkyrie Profile? Yes. I need to find a way to play that again because I never got I got i had it on the pe at PlayStation portable and I don't know where that game yeah or the station went.
00:39:53
Speaker
I played one called Valkyrie Profile 2 on PlayStation 2. And then... But the one that I'm thinking of that's more relatable to that is called final it's called Valkyrie Profile Covenant of the Plume. And for some reason, you had like this plume of feather that you could use to make dudes really jacked up and strong, but then they would die right after you used it in battle. So...
00:40:18
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so Yeah, but I agree. I thought I never thought that I would like a game like that, but it is kind of cool to. i don't know, it makes sense how they do it. um Not everybody does a good job of it, though.
00:40:32
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But ah Danny, what was one of yours? So I was going to say one of the great things about doing like these archipelagos, these multi game randomizers that I've been doing lately is that a lot of them work for old games.
00:40:47
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So I've been playing a lot of old games again, and I think. The one that. I've been itching to really play again and constantly always think in the back of my mind is a the perfect game.
00:41:02
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Would have to be Mega Man Legends one. Yes, haven't played that one. i highly recommend it. It's just a good time.
00:41:15
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What's it on? It was a PlayStation one. It was a PlayStation one. OK, yeah. I don't remember any Mega Man's on PlayStation. have played that game so many times. I add it to every archipelago I do so I can play it more.
00:41:31
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It's so good. I had no idea there was one on PlayStation. It is my favorite Mega Man game, bar none. I love Mega Man. There's a couple Mega Man on PlayStation. Yeah, I agree. Because it's is a 3D thing. You kind of walk... and it it is You would love it, Adam, because it's the megaman that's it's the most Adam Mega Man of all time. Yeah, no it's absolutely an Adam Mega Man. In what way?
00:41:58
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He's just like a friendly, chill dude. And the whole game is like PS1 graphics, but they just kind of stuck anime faces on like the models.
00:42:09
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And whoever designed the faces and like drew all the different faces for the expressions did such a wonderful job. It's such a whimsical game. Yeah, because the side missions are always... And the thing is, it actually has like a morality thing where you change in color depending on whether you you help people or you go and you kick this dog or... Oh, interesting. I'm looking at some pictures. It looks like a blocky cloud-striping Minecraft-y looking... It's a 3D open world game for PlayStation 1.
00:42:43
Speaker
And it's so good. The villains are goofy as hell. You would you will love them. I do like the little anime esque, like little cut scenes or like little graphics they they yeah put out and their henchmen are little Lego people.
00:43:00
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That's really funny. Wow, it's such a great game. Two was good. i prefer one, especially one of the things they did in in one that most games don't do. That's great is.
00:43:15
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The dungeons are all underground, right? You are what's called a ah digger. And your job is to go down and find treasure, basically, in these underground dungeons. Well, on the first game, it all takes place on one island.
00:43:29
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And at first, you go through the dungeons like normal. You know you have to traverse the overworld to get to each dungeon. Near the end of the game, you get an item that lets you destroy certain walls in the dungeons.
00:43:41
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And you find out that they're all actually interconnected. And there's like a whole almost bonus dungeon if you actually go through it all. What was this again? Mega Man Legends.
00:43:53
Speaker
Huh. Also known as Mega Man 64. Really? So good. it's It's not a very long game. ah If you know what you're doing, you could probably beat it in like a couple hours, but it is so much fun.
00:44:08
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Wow. I highly recommend it. There are people demanding Mega Man Legends 3 and I am one of them. Yeah, i'm I'm so there for it. I want it so bad. What did 2 platform on?
00:44:21
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I think it was also PlayStation. Yeah. I think it came out soon after 1. And then they came out with, what was it called? The Adventures of Tron Bon, which is actually one of the villains. And she, yeah it's about her because she gets like a crush on Mega Man and everything.
00:44:37
Speaker
It's very cute story. oh It's very funny. My first foray into Mega Man was Mega Man X on Super Nintendo, I think. That's a good start, too. Which is a really hard game, at least for me as a kid. I don't know if I would.
00:44:51
Speaker
I'd probably still struggle now, but I'd probably be able to beat it. But I got pretty far to the point where Mega Man. What's the Mega Man that's like red and a little bit taller than him? Zero. Zero. We're like you play a zero for at some point because.
00:45:05
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Dr. Robot, so probably two, maybe three.
00:45:11
Speaker
Huh? Yeah. And now we're finding my nerd side. Yeah. If you played a zero at all, but like for only a bit, it was either two or three. Huh?
00:45:22
Speaker
Two or three what? Mega Man X, two or three. No, it was make just Mega Man X. It's just what it was called. Well, no, no. But the Mega Man X, you don't need never play a zero in the first Mega Man X yeah one. What?
00:45:36
Speaker
Because he dies in the first one, and he comes back like Jesus. I don't think there was a number on the one I played. i think was just called Mega Man X. Well, and you didn't play a zero, sir. You play as a very... liar.
00:45:48
Speaker
I'm almost positive that you do. No, because that was like the big selling point of two was that you got to play a zero a little bit because everybody loved him. what What do you remember? the do you remember what any of the animals the bosses are? That'll help us. Any of the bosses... a nice penguin.
00:46:04
Speaker
Oh, wait. what i Wait, wait. Maybe, I think I know. i know i' think i Wait, that would have been Super Nintendo. It was a penguin.
00:46:15
Speaker
it was I mean, that is penguin. That was there the first one. That was a penguin that you fight. Didn't the remake for PlayStation Portable also let you play a little bit at zero at one point? I don't know. don't know. never had Portable.
00:46:30
Speaker
We'll to search it. Non-gamer question. Do games only come out on one console? Does the same game ever come out on both PlayStation and Xbox? Yes. They do more so now.
00:46:41
Speaker
They used to be much more exclusive. ah Like Halo was Xbox exclusive. You would almost never get a Halo on the PlayStation. All the Capcom games were pretty much all PlayStation only.
00:46:56
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The original God of War trilogy. Yeah, but nowadays it's a lot. They're a lot looser about that stuff.
00:47:04
Speaker
In X2, you could play Zero for one life. Yep. If Zero died, you had to fight Zero later in the game. In X3, you could fully play as ah Zero. Joe Penguin was x zero very briefly god i can't Zero was in it, but he wasn't playable. Or maybe gives you a helmet. I don't remember what happens. I'm pretty sure you play as him briefly. There was some robot thing you fight, and I kept getting fucked up on it.
00:47:24
Speaker
Doesn't matter. but like mematic x Games come out. Yeah, across multiple, especially since PC gaming really took off like about 15 years or so ago where like people started getting like more affordable builds and stuff.
00:47:39
Speaker
um Yeah. I did read this question a little bit differently, so i um I want to throw my impression that you guys do you guys have. Yeah, yeah. I read this as what video game are you most nostalgic about that when you played it, you felt you were nostalgic like, oh yeah, that's the one I've totally beat. I...
00:47:58
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did this I did a really good job. Or like that kind of thing. What's the game that you is most memorable to you as like, oh yeah, I beat that.
00:48:08
Speaker
Nier Automata. Oh, I fucking love that game. That's such... a When I beat that game, first of all, ah kind of like you said before, Sean, I own that game on every console and and every platform it's been released on.
00:48:25
Speaker
ah Purely because... I just, I want to be able to play it right then and there. I can't be bothered to hunt it down. But when I beat that game, I put the controller down and cried for a little bit. And then I felt so,
00:48:43
Speaker
so much. I just felt so much. There's a lot of v existentialism in that game. Yeah. i To this day, if I hear the final song, I cry. and i just can't.
00:48:55
Speaker
It's one of the roughest opening boss fights, but one of the most epic opening boss fights. The tutorial is like three times harder than the rest of the game. Yeah, it's fucking stupid, but so cool that like I honestly didn't mind having to go back through and watch all my comrades get shot down before I went and fought that giant machine.
00:49:13
Speaker
I still to this day, I talked to my friend and i was like, dude, oh it was such a great game. I loved it so much. And he my friend was like, It was okay. It was only like a couple hours long and like not much happened. I'm like, did you play the same stop after the fun? Like, did you stop when you beat the game?
00:49:31
Speaker
Yeah. I was like, no, no, no, no. no You go back and you keep playing that game. It's like 13 endings. Not all of them have that, like a huge impact, but there's 13 different things. Basically. Yeah. If you play that game until you reach the credits,
00:49:45
Speaker
uh you've only played a third of the game and you have to keep playing that's true you have to at least play it one more time through to get like because you see shit like from they they so what they do is the second run through you play as your partner from the first run through row and he sees different things yeah oh what's really cool but i i think one of my favorite charms about that game Is you you they give you a whole mini game where they want you to survive shooting credits like the credits of the game. This is the part I cry at.
00:50:19
Speaker
So the names of the people that are like, you know, that help make the game, you shoot at them to kill. Like, so you're. So. What is it? You can sacrifice your save file. Yeah. So I'll explain to you why I cry at this part, because it actually has very little to do with the game itself and more like you have to delete the file. So.
00:50:42
Speaker
Just the beauty of that. So what happens is at the very end, you play as this tiny spaceship and you can shoot the credits and it gets progressively harder and harder. It's true. And each time you die.
00:50:55
Speaker
Each time you die, you start seeing messages that say, like, keep going. I believe in you. You can do this. And then you find out that they are written by other players.
00:51:07
Speaker
And you can ask for help at some point. And you might say no a few times and die some more. But eventually you'll say, yes, I want help. And a bunch of other ships will fly in and circle you and protect you. Like of like, fucking shooting shit for you. Yeah.
00:51:23
Speaker
And... It will say so-and-so's data was deleted if their ship gets blown up, and then another ship will come in. And after all of that, when you're finally done with everything, the game will ask you, do you want to help somebody else? Do you want to make your ship available for somebody else to use?
00:51:46
Speaker
But in order to do that, you have to delete your save. this is So all of those people that helped you deleted their save in order to make their ship available to leave you an encouraging message and help you through the end and i'm tearing up just talking about it right now and write something for them to read as well before you i platinumed that game i've eaten every mission every story bit and i have multiple times and every time I delete the save so that I can help someone else. Yeah. It's fucking, and it is, it's beautiful. It's such a heartwarming thing.
00:52:26
Speaker
I cry whenever I think about it because the music, the music for that section has words. And it starts with a single singer just singing like this little sad thing.
00:52:38
Speaker
But it starts building up. And when you finally ask for help, a chorus comes in and they all sing together. Yeah, it's really good. it taste so Danny's making himself cry.
00:52:51
Speaker
It was one of like, that's the part I'm so nostalgic for. it was yeah the most heartwarming and touching thing I've ever been through in my life.
00:53:02
Speaker
To know that these people spent hundreds of hours in this game and deleted it all just to help somebody they don't know. Somebody who should never thank them.
00:53:14
Speaker
Right, because you don't know who they are. does i don't Yeah, it just says like their username when they die. ah you like You can't find them or anything. And and that people have like checked it out and it is real. like They're not just saying, oh yeah, we'll make your ship available. And then they have a bunch of computer generated ones. People have looked into it. It is real. It records you. It sends your ship out. And you delete your data to do it. And if your ship dies, that's it. It's gone. tried.
00:53:41
Speaker
To get to the end without help. And it is so... You can't. you I am convinced you cannot. to I don't know if you can. cause like no I tried to. I couldn't. Show up on screen and you get less and less space.
00:53:53
Speaker
And you only have one little puny laser to like try to make room. And i it's just... it yeah It basically becomes a bullet hell. It's a bullet hell, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And it's very it's very cool. And the whole game is very existential. It's about like your...
00:54:11
Speaker
Uh, you're in this futuristic version of earth that's like been decimated by robots or some sort of alien race of robots. I can't remember what exactly like the, it was. Don't get me started. I can tell you the whole, I know.
00:54:22
Speaker
And so like, you are like these androids that are sent from like the space station to go and investigate and like, take down the the robots are the enemy, but then you start to wreck it because you're also technically robots, but you're sent on behalf of humanity to tackle the situation. And what makes you valuable is like they can make you and as long as certain parts of your processing unit is still intact, they can teleport you to different spaces because there's another one of you in a closet somewhere.
00:54:50
Speaker
Yeah, you're just software inside of a body. But so like, but then you recognize these other robots start to like mimic what they think humanity is and they start to do things that humans do.
00:55:02
Speaker
And like, it makes you question like certain moral things because they're like, these robots aren't actually causing any harm. They're trying to live as a community. It's hard to explain, but like there's a lot of when you start, it and it's very much just like,
00:55:15
Speaker
Robots anime protagonist versus like clunky machines. Yeah. But then as the game goes on, they start learning to talk and your characters are like, should we just mindlessly kill these things? They're starting to speak.
00:55:28
Speaker
Some of them are saying like some of the androids, the the anime people are like, well, they're just saying gibberish, it doesn't matter, you know, whatever. Some other ones are like, no, I'm pretty sure it spoke an actual sentence. When I was a fighting them, they started saying, don't kill scared.
00:55:44
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Yeah. And like, yeah it turns into this whole thing and it, oh my God. It's really, it's pretty powerful fucking game if you give it the time. Um, Yeah, I'm so sorry, Sean. We just kind of... Sorry, we kind of geeked out. This is great. but Like I said, this question is dangerous for me. It's a beautiful game.
00:56:04
Speaker
I feel of bad, though, because mine's going to come from a totally different place. um i I beat the most hated game on Microsoft Windows in all history because it was so horribly programmed and designed that like, and i irony was just what's built. um If anyone and remembers the game, Zombie Ate My Neighbors. Oh my God, yes. Zombie Ate My Neighbors? No, no, no, no. I'm just to say, you did what?
00:56:35
Speaker
If you beat that game, man. oh No, no. I beat worse. It was worse? because this is... um Someone tried to make like a 3D sequel, honorary sequel to it called Monster Madness.
00:56:51
Speaker
Unaware of it. ah Yeah, I don't know that one. It's like a 3D version, but here's the thing about the Windows... It's so bad, I can't remember. I just remember... You used a mouse to to like physically... Everything was ass backwards. You used a mouse to move move your character around and the keyboard to aim. oh i oh God. yeah illness It's like... It's like the southpaw shit.
00:57:20
Speaker
yeah It was so bad, but I played all the way through it to the end and beat I it like $5 like...
00:57:30
Speaker
Not Tower Tree. what's What's the place that went on? Apparently Dixon's played it. Yeah, apparently Dixon knows what he's talking about. Well, the thing is, the PlayStation version, they fixed all the controls.
00:57:44
Speaker
But the original on the Windows, was it was just so... it was That sounds awful. It sounds terrible. trying to imagine that kind of It sounds disgusting. I'm inadvertently opening someone in front of me because I'm trying to think, like, how do I... One of my favorite accomplishments to kind of, you know, when it when it comes to video games is I beat multiple times I've 100% Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask on my phone.
00:58:10
Speaker
Jesus Christ. With touch control. What? What? I've never beaten Majora's Mask. I was too young to appreciate and understand how it's made. dude, that's another one that's way up there for me. I love Majora's Mask.
00:58:25
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Huh. So are you guys answering this question from, like, a challenge standpoint? i'm Memorable. shit It's memorable. it was it Because it was really fun, because it was like it had all these elements of like, almost like... It was like, almost if you took Zombies Ate My Neighbor, then applied bits of... um kids next door where like you were building, you had to get game parts to build different, get game, get new items, new weapons.
00:58:52
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And it had like a lot, there's a, it was a lot to it. It was, it was a lot of, it was really hard to play, but it was like one those things where like it was, so the dialogue was fun. It had some fun scenes. There's one point and you're right you're running, you're running, you're running through a race.
00:59:06
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You're running on like a, through like a racetrack. And it had all the... It was... it was i don't know. It was hard to explain. i shu I enjoyed it even though it was horrible because it was also like... it was I felt... When I saw that the reviews and my initial playman, was like, all right, this is annoying and stuff and horrible, but I kind of like it and I think you guys are overreacting. So I played it all the way through the end. Wow. And it was such a wonderful ending.
00:59:34
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It was just a wonderful ending because it felt like... um There was a lot of stuff to it that was really fun. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, and I'm apparently Dixon knows what it is. I don't. Hey, yeah I've never heard it. You said zombies ate my neighbors. I know that one. I know that one. And if you said you beat that, I don't think i I haven't gotten to play it as an adult, but I remember playing it as a kid and just once the chainsaw guys came out, I remember struggling real hard.
01:00:06
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was Yeah. Ocarina of time on your phone. It was Majora's Mask. Majora's Mask. It's not 100%. This is where I was at the last. I own the game, first of all. So to anybody, you know, with the amuletars and stuff. was going to say Nintendo is going to come get you now cause you shouldn't have on camera. do own the game. i'm ah So I think legally I'm allowed to have that.
01:00:28
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I'm trying think of what mine is because i have like I have games I'm proud of that I beat and games that give me that nostalgia. I will say, when it comes to like JRPGs, my first intro into that was... fun Dixon said it in the chat as well.
01:00:40
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It was Final Fantasy IV, which at the time on Super Nintendo was Final Fantasy II, which is like starring Cecil and Kane and Rosa and all them. um Why do you keep touching your camera lens?
01:00:53
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so It's out of focus. I'm trying to... That's okay. You're just like Bigfoot. it's trying They're trying to censor you. That's all. There I am. ah they ah That was my first entry into that.
01:01:05
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And then I discovered Secret of Mana. And ultimately, what I would say is honestly, the game that I think of the most, if someone says, Adam, what was your game when you were a kid? Even though I played like the old school you know, Donkey Kongs and Mario Brothers and shit like Super Nintendo really felt like that was my era of like games.
01:01:24
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That was like the thing that really locked it in for me that I was going to be a gamer and that that was my favorite thing. It was a game called Chrono Trigger. Dude, I was going to say that Chrono Trigger was the game that just made me realize like, oh, these games can have stories. Yeah. And like I only just played that last year for the first time. It's great. And that that has multiple endings, several endings as well.
01:01:48
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Um, and, uh, I remember just thinking like there's a story and I have so many interesting characters. And when the first time I played it, I didn't know that I could have the vampire on my team.
01:02:02
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So I saw somebody else when I got the internet years later, like had him in their party and like, how the fuck did you do that? I had to go back and play it again to learn how to do that. And it was just don't fight him when he, the frog challenges him to a duel and you say, ah, nevermind. I don't want to.
01:02:16
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Um, that's how you do it. And I'm like, oh It's that easy, but then you can't save Frog at the end. fully. it just Yeah. was Like it's a mixed bag, but he's not gone. He's just different. um But yes. ah But like the time travel aspect of that was really fascinating to me. They did such a great job with that game.
01:02:39
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Like the fact that like you could if you wanted to, you could go fight the final boss early in the game. You just go fucking poof to him. Say, I'm going to go kick his ass now. And if you if you can somehow survive his shit,
01:02:50
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you know But if you do a new game plus, you could just fight him from the very beginning. And it was drawn by Akira Toriyama, so it all looks like Dragon Ball, which is amazing. I went back... so PlayStation one released like a dual combo disc set of Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy four, which I didn't understand at the time why it was called Final Fantasy four and not Final Fantasy two, which is what i knew it as.
01:03:17
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But I was like, well, those are the characters. Those are my guys. Like I know these people, but I didn't realize that in the, what, as I played through Chrono Trigger, what was probably like the 13th time in my life,
01:03:29
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they added those little kind of like Dragon Ball Z looking cut scenes into it. So every so often you'd see like a cool opener or when he sacrifices himself against like the Stop Lavos at that one point. Like they show this whole cool ass little cut scene.
01:03:42
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Like, holy fuck, it looks like i'm watching Dragon Ball right now, but like on a video game. It was just so cool. It's so good. Yeah. um And I remember wanting to go back because as a kid, I didn't understand. I felt too stupid. And in hindsight, it's not that hard to save what's-her-name's mom.
01:04:00
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i You know what? When I played it last year, I didn't save her mom either. I didn't know what to In hindsight, I'm like, yeah. They even teach you the mechanic earlier. teach you the mechanics. I still didn't do it. I was like, why did I not just...
01:04:12
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Put X, A, B, Y and stop the machine. Literally, they tell you exactly to do it. They tell everything. And I was like, don't know what I'm doing. had to watch my mom lose her legs. And I was like, oh, that's why she doesn't have her legs.
01:04:23
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But then like when I went back through and played, I was like, aha, mommy has legs now. And other things are different. My dad's not an alcoholic anymore. know, like it's crazy to see like – all that I don't know. It's a great game. I think even now it holds up.
01:04:37
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You can play it on Steam. It's real cheap. absolutely it does. It absolutely holds The battle system, the active battle system, and the combo moves that you could do together, the cast. like I really fell in love with like being able to name all of my characters, just the weirdest shit.
01:04:50
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And I really felt like Chrono was... You know, me. um And I and and and that was the first time I understood, like, oh, why the main character doesn't talk because they want that to be you and whatever you say and whatever you react is supposed to be. I would say you're more the.
01:05:06
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The princess. Probably. right i Like, like, you had to flock. I forget what her name is, but I'm pretty sure i don't remember name either. Jumping around and being happy at everything. I don't remember.
01:05:20
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um yeah But the trial, too, like, you know, like they track all that shit, like everything you do when you go to trial in the courts in the kingdom. And like they reference all these things you didn't even know were going to be tracked at the time.
01:05:33
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We're like it from the very beginning when you bump into the princess at the fair. If you go pick up her amulet before you check on her, that's used against you. It's held against you. Yeah. It's so fucking smart, dude. It's so smart. There's like somebody's lunch on a table. And if you inspect it, you just take it. And they're like, oh, this motherfucker ate someone's lunch at the fair. Like, I didn't. Oh, damn it.
01:05:54
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okay It's so cool. I don't know. i think Adam is more Kronos because I feel like Adam wouldn't cause himself to cease to exist. he would at least not on purpose anyway.
01:06:06
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I was I was very. to Oh, you're right. It was Laura. Zabby was at the robot X. A. B. Y. was the robot factory. Yeah. green Which is when they teach you that. Yeah. To be a thing.
01:06:16
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Right. You're right. It was Laura. It was. oh Yeah. Left shoulder. A. Right shoulder. A. Yeah. um Which I didn't realize that there were shoulder buttons. And that's why I fucked that one up.
01:06:27
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Yeah, because any other game would have you go to a console and type it in. But this game was like, right no, literally press the buttons on your controller. I didn't. did do it. i did I did not piece that together in that particular moment.
01:06:40
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you know And I think I did the Robot Factory where you did that later. And I was like, oh, my God, that's how I'm that's what the fuck. exit cause it' was like accent It's a high pressure situation, too. Yeah. In the moment, my little kid was like.
01:06:53
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I'm too stupid just like, hey, press the buttons. You literally stuck in a room while the mom is moving down a conveyor belt towards a machine. And you're like, oh, good yeah, because like you go to the because they trick you because there is a console there.
01:07:06
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And when you click on it, it says enter in the code. And I'm like, how? What do you mean? It doesn't give me an option. there's am Is my game broken? I took it out once and I was like, fuck, I turn it off and turn it back on. i was like, maybe my game's broken. Something's missing.
01:07:18
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It stressed me out. Anyway, for the listeners who don't know. love games that do crazy shit like this. just, if you're a gamer, it's, I have similar feelings to that game as Danny has for Nier Automata, but like, not in like, it it was like this big epic, I mean, it's a big epic story, but it wasn't the big epic story that hooked me. It was just like how smart it was and how even my little kid brain could like understand it. and I would say that game does time travel,
01:07:47
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just as well as Majora's Mask. oh And those are the only two games I would say did time travel perfectly right. Yeah, they did a really good job. What's that?
01:07:58
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Majora's, wait, Majora's, wait. Majora's Mask, you used like a flute to like restart the day. Yeah, you have to like reset the three-day cycle. Oh, okay, okay. I was just going to say, because was just thinking, wait, wasn't that Ocarina of Time?
01:08:11
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I mean, Ocarina of Time, it was just two different world states. Like, that's what every game does. I feel like Majora's Mask and Chrono Trigger were the only ones to really use time travel to like, you know, Majora's Mask on a micro scale. You learn everybody's schedule and where you can meet them and when you can talk to them.
01:08:33
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And then Chrono Trigger is more macro where it's like you're visiting the same places millions of years apart. You know, the whole world is open to you.
01:08:44
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And you see like certain kingdoms leave certain kingdoms show up. Some places are still around, but different. oh yeah And there's a lot of things like doing something in the past affects the future version and stuff like that. It's all. Yeah, it's really. Yeah. Like and the moon. Yeah. The moon. and majority Yeah. was awesome When you decide in Chrono Trigger where to go, like it really matters because once you get because at first you get this thing is called the Epoch and it It doesn't fly. It's just like a stationary time machine and it takes you to the same place, but at whatever time period you can go to.
01:09:18
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And so like Danny was saying, you can see what it looked like before your modern world or what it looked like after and like three million AD or whatever the fuck they called it after the apocalypse happened that the the main antagonist starts.
01:09:31
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So you get to see the like what happened after he rained down fire on all of Earth. yeah Imagine if you could time travel and you went to go fight the meteor that killed the dinosaurs. It's like that, right like essentially actually one of the endings.
01:09:44
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It is. yeah Yeah. Yeah. Before it it crashes, then it did you erase all of humanity and they're all dinosaurs? I mean, essentially, yeah, that's what what that's what Lavos is. So they show Lavos coming to Earth like you can actually go to the distant past of like the dinosaurs and see.
01:10:06
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this thing crash into the earth and like, and then it just disappears and it just lives there for like millions until like the modern world where it's just eating and growing and like gestating until it's time to come out of.
01:10:19
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Cause every time you get a game over, it shows him come out of the earth with that. It's a very epic, like, yeah, And just fire this ring. It's so good.
01:10:30
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Ah, it's so great. I would recommend it. If you're a gamer who likes story, who very highly i recommend, if you like choices that matter, but it's not like Ooh, in this moment, make this left trigger, right trigger and see what happens. It's like, it's all moral choices. It's moral choices. And the game actually changes around them.
01:10:47
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And yeah, in a way that and in a way that a lot of game companies say there is do now, this actually did it. Yeah. Dixon says long before Telltale Games and Fallout became famous for it, there was Kroner Trigger. I'm trying to remember because this was like it was Akira Toriyama and I forget which group basically came together and said, how can we make the perfect video game? And that's what they made. And they. ah Yeah. Who published that game? like ah Is it Square? Oh, Square.
01:11:14
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Was it? it no it was. Well, yes, but it was like the actual developers. I'm trying to remember. It was like a specific group. I think it was like the Final Fantasy team.
01:11:26
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Oh, maybe I don't remember. It was like a group of people came together on their own and were like, we're bosses at this. Let's make a fucking cool game.
01:11:37
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And that's what they made. And it was awesome. Oh, man. Yeah. So that game, I feel the same level of just like attachment that you do to near. It's just.
01:11:47
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It really locked in for me. Like I love Final Fantasy four. I love Secret of Mana. But something about Chrono Trigger just like sat with me in a way that nothing else ever has.
01:11:59
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um And I just well all the characters. It's hard to pick a favorite. Long before the Enix was added. So good. I love a good TV show or video game where it's hard to pick a favorite character because like they all bring something to it.
01:12:14
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Right before we started. Mbeluga and I just finished watching Falling Skies. Great show. I highly recommend Falling Skies. Oh,
TV Shows with Rich Characters
01:12:25
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don't know what that is. Alien Invasion done well.
01:12:29
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ah What's his name? Joan... Joan... Of Ark. Yeah, Joan of Ark from The Pit is the main guy, the main character. But they do a very good job of, like, there's a lot of characters in that show, and and very few of them I don't like.
01:12:47
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Ah, and if I do, yeah if I do hate them, I'm kind of supposed to. Right. Like they're good at making you feel that. Yeah. Sean, do you have a TV show? This isn't the question, but do you have a show that you're just like, wow, all these characters are so cool that it's hard to just nail down like a favorite?
01:13:05
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ah Yeah. um Gravity Falls. Now that is one that's on my list to check out. Yeah, I need to check that show out. I've heard really good things about it, though. It is so good. It is like... That's like what Absurdia essentially is, right? like Yeah, Absurdia is like it's like Gravity Falls, um Twin Peaks, that kind of thing.
01:13:25
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What do they call that style of TV show where like the world itself is like a character in... Like in the show, do you know what talking about? Like essentially what Absurdia is based on is like that kind of.
01:13:40
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I don't know if there's a name for that, where like the the world is like a like a character or like but the town change never changes or like or like how courage a cowardly dog always has something crazy happen in nowhere, but yet they come back and the family's back to normal. It's surrealist. There's a word on it.
01:13:59
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It's ah episodic. It's like. It always resets after each episode. Right. Except for a few exceptions. but There's still like story there, but like there's things that just, you know, like Courage's house can get blown up in the last episode, but then it's back to normal in the next. But but like, but they also acknowledge that happened.
01:14:16
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yeah You know, like, but Eustace must have died a dozen times in that show when he still went all the episodes. well i The kind of neat thing about Gravity Falls is it isn't episodic. Like, it's's it's like that it has that same feel of the things matter that you guys mentioned, like from yeah Trigger, but in show form.
01:14:34
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Like, there at one point, they reveal the reason and the reason why and and everyone in town isn't aware of the weird stuff is there's literally a society of people going and mind wiping them.
01:14:45
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And then they go and they deal with and then they because they find out about that the old man McGuckuck, like the crazy man, crazy guy in town. It turns out like he helped one of the he helped one of the spoiler characters look into the craziness and it kind of started to drove him mad. He realized that this crystal could be used to make, you know, make him forget.
01:15:06
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And then he kind of overused it and became old man McGucket. And then the rest of the society has just been continually going around just like mind wiping. As soon as they encounter something weird. And then once they deal with that, then it's Dipper becomes known as, oh, it's that kid who's always fighting the pterodactyls or the gnomes.
01:15:26
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Hmm. Interesting. What it's like an eerie Indiana situation? Yeah. Has any show or video game story happened? show or video game story which which is your favorite like has any show or video game the story really hit you and been like damn that was a good story from beginning to end not near automata i'll tell you what oh god no that game sucks yeah um um i will not say that one it is that one but i'll try and come up with another example
01:16:01
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Like all the way through or just yeah like like has there ever, you know a TV show ah or a book, anything? has Has there been a story that's really stuck with you as like, damn, that was a damn good story. yeah Like there's a book I can say that like.
01:16:18
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Really stuck with me. I think I've mentioned it on the show before, but it's called Lamb. OK, yeah, it's it's written by author Christopher Moore.
01:16:29
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And it is essentially the first 22, 21 years of Jesus Christ's life. But it's a comedy. It's a it's a it's a comedy fiction book, but it's this this guy who did a lot of research like over in Jerusalem and Israel. like he did a lot of traveling to understand all these places where Jesus assumedly visited and and spoke to people and all these things. And he wrote this really funny book about he calls him Josh, like in the book, it's Josh and Biff. So there's a guy who has a much more biblical sounding name, but his nickname is Biff because his mom always hit him. And that's the sound that he made when she hit him.
01:17:09
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So they called him Biff. And so Biff is Josh's best friend who got written out of the Bible for something he did in the climax of the book. So they got the bible completely because they didn't want anybody to know about him because they were so ashamed of him.
01:17:24
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And so he travels the world with Jesus, who's trying to learn who he is and and why he feels like compelled to help people and why he says he's God's son. And they're like, what the fuck are you talking about? You can't talk like that around the around the Romans and things like that.
01:17:39
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And it's a very touching but funny. It's a very funny but touching book. like tos a lot of There's a lot of heart written in it. And so there's times where you're like really giggling at like Jesus. is josh He goes by Josh in the book. And Josh is like,
01:17:52
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Oh, I can never be touched by a woman like I have to remain pure, but I'm curious of what it is. And so like Biff goes and gets like a prostitute to do things to him on the other side of a wall, and he describes it to Josh while it's happening.
01:18:05
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Oh, my God. But then there's so he's like he's like she has me in her mouth and Josh is like in her mouth. Interesting. What does that mean? Yeah. But then like in other things, like he see he heals sick people who are like abandoned and like he stands up against the Romans and like and then they time jump a bit and they visit all the three wise men and he learns about demons and why he can have control over them and compel them to leave people.
01:18:31
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And you learn about Mary the Magdalene and they call her Maggie in the book as if for a nickname. And it's just a very interesting way to learn about that story. But like because like I guess in the real Bible, there's a lot of years from Jesus's life where just kind of starts where he's an adult already.
Book and Game Recommendations
01:18:46
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And like, no one there's like not a history of since when he was born in like the manger. What happened after that? Who was he? And so like this guy was like, I kind of want to write that story and figure out like like who I think he was and what he was doing, but in like a funny way.
01:19:01
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would highly recommend. It's a book I always think of when someone says, oh, what would you recommend of a read for me? I'm like, well, if you don't find it to you blasphemous, I think you would really like this book called Land.
01:19:12
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It is very funny, very charming, very heartfelt, especially the ending, which is what gets Biff written out of the Bible. um And the whole book is written from the perspective of Biff, who gets brought back to life by an angel who is experiencing ah modern earth for the first time. So he's still learning what modern earth is like. He hasn't been on earth in thousands of years.
01:19:36
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And so like he brings Biff back to life. He's like, hey, we're missing like a bunch of years from Jesus's life and we know you were there. So I brought you back to life to write this book. And so he puts him in a hotel room and he guards him because he knows he'll try to escape. And he says, right.
01:19:52
Speaker
And so that's what the book is, is Biff recounting what was missing from the Bible. That's pretty cool. It's very smart and very funny. And every now and then it cuts back to the modern world where Biff is like trying to escape because he doesn't want to do it. He just wants to leave.
01:20:07
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And he gets given what's called the gift of tongues so he can speak to anybody in any language that gets him into some trouble. um It's very funny. And that has really left a mark on me to justify. None of that story was boring. The audio book is just as good.
01:20:21
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Would highly recommend There's a name called, hey, Adam, did you know there's a game called Jesus Christ RPG trilogy? No, I did not. And it does. it Is it one of those? but Oh, my God.
01:20:36
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um Is it is it like a Christian game where it's like, oh, hey, feed these cats? Well, it's like a Jesus RPG right now. Yeah. Or is it actually like trilogy? Is that what I'm thinking of? The trilogy? I would totally play a game starring Jesus Christ where like I get to go heal people and kick Roman's ass. That's what it is.
01:20:54
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I would ask it's what I'm thinking of. That's what it is.
Kamen Rider Gaim's Complex Narrative
01:20:57
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Yeah, that's my calling is to is to kick the ah asses of oppressors and heal people. If I can do that, if Jesus can break his vow of not hurting people and just like start kicking people's asses.
01:21:10
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But Jesus also partied like historically, like he was like, yeah, man, let's get fucked up. I mean, the dude turned water to wine. You don't. You don't not abuse that. I'm sorry. He's like, yeah, let's party. um Anyway, I know I rambled a bit, but I really love it. It's really impactful to me. um um But anyway, yes. How about you, Sean? Any story really stick with you?
01:21:31
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Okay, I'm going to give one, and it's the common writer it's a Rider series, but i knew it i I can name why, and I think Adam will agree to me with hearing this, because it's called Kamen Rider Gaim.
01:21:45
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It's a story that starts out with a bunch of street, street, street. Well, here's the fun part. It starts out with a bunch of sort of not gangs, gangs, street dance dancers.
01:21:57
Speaker
And there's this craze going on of these things called loxies. There's are these locks that, like, if you close them, then you can summon monsters like Pokemon, right? Okay. Okay. that's where this is the story starts this story ends with and then what when it starts there and then these things called uh loxie drivers start coming or she's bouts you can put on you slap one of those seats on it and it turns you into a like a power ranger right and so like these um teams start to get their each get their rider and they start having fights with them
01:22:32
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It ends with the with the two sort of the two most powerful survivors fighting whether the world will be turned into a bunch of monsters by the the fruit that... church like It has a lot of biblical things. The idea is that there's this force called Helheim.
01:22:51
Speaker
that is leaking into reality. And there's these people. And it it's it's kind of like if the idea is like like you knowt the fruit that made people, be made humanity be able to be aware of sin and stuff, right?
01:23:04
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It's the same kind of evolutionary fruit. And the story is about how all the writers they're involved with this, they all have these different methodologies. The main one is this guy named Baron, who is this guy whose father's committed suicide after his his construction business was taken out by big business.
01:23:25
Speaker
And then the main writer is... I can't remember his name, but he's Gaim. The one with Gaim. And he's just this guy who just wants to help people. And it kind it it boils down to where it's it's... The whole story is like... um the world will destroy you unless you take power, right?
01:23:46
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it starts with that where people are trying to convince Gaim like, you need to just accept their losses. Because one of the people are like, okay, we know this is coming. We're trying to find ways for humanity to survive the apocalypse.
01:24:00
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there you ski here were that part I didn't know we were fighting an apocalypse. Well, that's the thing. Cause the forest is the forest. Basically what the idea is the forest is as it's leaking in what are known as lock seeds before they get turned into lock seeds are these fruit that make you want to eat it, but then it turns you, it evolution evolves you into a monster. And that's what they've been fighting the whole time or transformed humans.
01:24:25
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Oh, I like that. So they essentially what the Kamen Riders were fighting were people who were eating this evolutionary fruit and then not knowing that they were people eating evolutionary fruit and were slaying these monsters thinking they were just mindless beasts.
01:24:38
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Yeah. and the And the thing is, the fruit makes it like hypnotic. It makes you want to hate you eat it unless you have unless you're like unless you got really good. Well, there's one person who one person who managed to avoid eating it without having this spout. It's just because he is the most badass, manly, gay, peri marine slash baker in the world.
01:25:02
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Well, let's go. Let's go back a beat because yeah I will be getting real big. So I want to make sure I can follow the timeline here. Yeah. what So you got to the point where they were like trying to figure out how to help humanity survive because this shit is leaking into reality.
01:25:17
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Yeah. This hell high and stuff. And so. The hell high is making the fruit. Yeah, the fruit is from Helheim. It's like the current version of the fruit of Adam, Adam 8.
01:25:29
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Right, the the the apple. Yeah, the apple you had before. The one that we keep eating, that we keep keep we have you can't fully swallow because it's stuck in our throat. Yeah. um so So you keep saying it's evolutionary fruit.
01:25:44
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Is it actually an evolving fruit, meaning like it enhances people, or it's just like a ha-ha-ha, this just an evil fruit, we want you to eat it. It's an evolutionary fruit because like the whole thing, part of this this is being orchestrated by the literal embodiment of Helheim.
01:26:01
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It's where it's it's like survival the and he, the where like it wants to evolve things to make them stronger. It's my understanding. It's been a while since I've seen it. And don't forget the question. What was it about the story that like leaves you feeling like this is a perfect story or the best story? Because the the the embodiment of Helheim was really interested in game because he is he is he pulls a full he pulls a full on Adam. He's like, fuck it. No.
01:26:32
Speaker
I'm going to find a way. I'm going to make us to work together. I'm going a way to make people work together. We need to work together. And he really interests us. The guy's like, and everyone else is telling him, you need to have power to do stuff. The world is breaking. You need to have consequences. keeps saying, no, I i refuse. So the hell heim sold to him and starts boosting him. So like, all right,
01:26:53
Speaker
I'm interested in seeing what happens if you win. Because I want to see... Everyone else is doing what I've seen like 50 billion times. You're the one actually trying to save everyone.
01:27:05
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And he's like, if people are telling you only those in power have the power to so destroy or save, how about then...
01:27:16
Speaker
you need to get the power to destroy the loss that say these people must die. This is this acceptable. It's like, you know, it's, it's, it's kind of like, um like, how do you fight the power that's corrupting everybody? Like that everybody's relying on.
01:27:35
Speaker
Yeah. Both the, like the, both the power of like the people in charge saying like, basically it, it embodies like the kind of hero. I like where that they're like,
01:27:46
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it's something they Gaim continues through this and does everything he can to get people to work together and keeps on going and ends up when he he ends up um the spoilers he ends up winning and then so the whole time is telling him like okay what do you choose to evolve earth to and he's like I don't choose to evolve earth we're going to another planet and we're going to start start our I'm going to start a new species with you Oh, neat. to Because I refuse, refuse to, I refuse, even because at this point, yeah, he, he, yeah, because he had this question and substitute my own answer.
01:28:26
Speaker
Basically, as he's been getting these powers, he and the other guy have basically been turning into the monsters, even though they still have their humanity. Gotcha. And he rejects that. I have to, i have to destroy the world to make, make this new, to make it evolve.
01:28:42
Speaker
Gotcha. So you you you kind of like it because like the main driving character essentially finds a way to work with what would have I guess you could perceive as like the opposing factions like this hell I'm.
01:28:55
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and Yeah, I do whatever. And I'm going to save humanity while also keeping this thing like being like, OK, I'll work with you to make this happen. But also I'm not going to sacrifice humanity to do it.
01:29:07
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Yeah, he like he sticks to his guns, and it has a lot of it has a lot of like it's a lot of questions about morality, but it also has something like, you do not have to even, because the thing is, he finds out when he first got his belt, it was his best friend he killed that went missing, which fucks him up really bad. sure anybody But he still keeps on going forward and trying to say like,
01:29:33
Speaker
I reject, I reject, it's it's almost like, it's like a rejection of everything that's going wrong in the world right now. Sure. Gotcha. Very cool. ah ah What's the word? of ah a paragon of morality. yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Learning to fight fire with fire or without fire. I like those kind of characters too, where they're like, I will find a third option as opposed to like you make it a binary.
01:29:58
Speaker
option And there's all like all these little subplots in it too. like There's this one gu guy in it who's just like a total Starscream. And he ends the series because it's after like all the belts have been gone, game is left, but then this another threat comes back.
01:30:14
Speaker
And so this guy who's just like this, he's just he is a total Starscream. He's like constantly, kind he is not a fighter. He finds out the last belt that they have available. And he's so he begs the guy who is has it let me do this because he found out his best friend that disappeared also got turned into one of these and died. he He basically takes up his friend's belt and form.
01:30:39
Speaker
And actually, he doesn't he mean he doesn't win the fight because it comes down to like... fun You're spoiling too much, dude. Sorry. Spoiling too much. Didn't it tell us all the endings? Sorry. I just like it because there's a lot of stuff on it that it the characters evolve and every so it it feels like a full-on story.
01:30:57
Speaker
That's cool. yeah
Puella Magi Madoka Magica's Dark Turn
01:30:58
Speaker
Gotcha. A lot of interconnected webs. Excellent. Danny, what's yours? Well, but the obvious answer was Nero Automata. And from like a feel-good or existentialism stuff, you know, very cool. The story sticks with you a lot.
01:31:14
Speaker
ah but I'll pick something else. And another thing I really like is to have my mind absolutely fucked with. I like things that leave me sitting there questioning everything from whatever. So in that vein, one of my favorite anime is called Puella Maggie Madica Magica.
01:31:36
Speaker
I don't know if anybody knows of it, but it starts out. It starts out. It's a bunch of like, you know, little magical girls and they're all very cute. And you know, they're all like, yay, let's save the world.
01:31:53
Speaker
And, uh, the story follows this one girl as she learns how to fight these monsters and the monsters and their world is super creepy. The the art style changes to be all weird.
01:32:06
Speaker
And there's one other girl that's, um, kind of against them, very cold, very mean to them and keeps trying to get in their way.
01:32:17
Speaker
And there's this cute little cat that's helping them like, Hey, let's go fight the things with this cute little cat. But there's this one girl getting in our way.
01:32:28
Speaker
And as the show goes on, it gets darker and darker to the point where a lot of trigger warning stuff happens. And at the end, you find out that, um not to get too spoilery, but one of the characters is stuck in like a time loop where all of their friends keep dying over and over again, and they keep trying to save them.
01:32:55
Speaker
And they're only making things worse. And i just I love that the show starts out super cutesy, you know, bunch of little girls doing their magical girl thing. But by the end of it, they've all got trauma. Half of them are dead. And it doesn't shy away from the deaths either. um it' It's just it a complete reversal of the genre.
01:33:20
Speaker
And i I loved it. It was so good. Is it is it a. Is it like psychologically. Like when you say it fucks with your head and shit like is it that's the whole point is it's meant to make like.
01:33:36
Speaker
Yeah. You know, like um the game Doki Doki Literature Club is like to ask if very cutesy on the outside, but then it it kind of gets real dark. Yeah, this would be that as a show. OK, so yeah, not for the light of starts out super nice and pretty and flowery and all that.
01:33:54
Speaker
ah But then each episode, it gets darker and darker to the point where, like, trigger warning characters are wanting to unalive themselves. um You know, they start losing their minds and killing each other. It's it's.
01:34:14
Speaker
When that show ended, i was just my jaw was just hanging open. i was like, that was such a a mind fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Dixon apparently knows everything we're talking about today. I do, too. And I have actually something interesting to tell you, Danny.
01:34:33
Speaker
What's that?
01:34:36
Speaker
Guess who wrote both my story and your story? Really? They were written by the same person? yeah Yeah. In fact, you also covered some of the reasons why I like Kamen Rider Gaim, because it started out, like I said, starts out with street dancing people doing Pokemon, and it ends with the... And it adds some more...
01:34:55
Speaker
like Oh my god, that's so funny. Who wrote it? Don't get back into the story. just Stay focused. I don't know his full name, but I know his nickname is the Euro Butcher because this is the kind of story he writes.
01:35:06
Speaker
Well, now we have to confirm. there's another There's another anime I want to watch, but I can't find it in America right now called Yuki Yuna is a Hero. And it's the same thing. It's another one where it's like, oh, pretty fantastic magical girl, but then they all get their minds fucked and and it's awful.
01:35:24
Speaker
A Jan Yorobuchi. Yeah, I just found it. It says Jan Yorobuchi, the head writer for Kamen Rider Gaim, well known for his dark and tragic storytelling.
01:35:35
Speaker
family ah Fans often refer to him as Yorobutcher. He is also highly celebrated for creating hit the hit anime series, Prella Magi Madoka Magica. That's fucking crazy. That's so
Promotions and Future Streams
01:35:47
Speaker
crazy. Gang, gang, let's let's recap here.
01:35:50
Speaker
So ah earlier in the episode, Shama's like, the thing that fucked me up in my twenty s was my addiction to sodium and I have type two diabetes. And then Danny goes, Hey, I was addicted to sodium. hus and I have type you to i diabetes. on Let me ask you something. Cause you're, you're in your 40s, right?
01:36:13
Speaker
Yeah. Oh my yeah. Yeah. I'm 40. When you were, fuck how old am I now? You're 36. When you were 36. Did you look like me? Are you just me from the future? um i look i I look pretty much the same except I just have more gray hair. You're stuck in the time loop. This is it. Am I the one in the time loop? Oh, fuck.
01:36:35
Speaker
That's insane because like the Mega Man stuff too, the similarities there with y'all like. following over there Why do you think ah I've noticed it? now Why do you think I'm always asking you to come on Chesel High? It's so funny. I was going to say like the shit y'all talked about, that is insane, dude. I was going to say like, yeah there's um there's some time suckery going on here. that mean Oh my God. um So what do you say? Now I know you got good taste.
01:37:02
Speaker
Yeah, let's put shit down. My brain is also... Yeah, this has been in similarities a long episode. Yeah, but that's okay. I knew the second question was going to be trouble, but... we had some tech up and so We had some tech issues in the beginning. um But hey, everybody, Sean, everyone, thanks for being here. Thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. Appreciate you all.
01:37:23
Speaker
We appreciate you all. um Sean, i want to do like a quick 30-second plug for anything? ah Yeah. You can check me out on Chesilheim Productions. It's the only thing I'm on right now. It's a podcast network. A lot of doing ah lot of different things. Our thing is we want to play with everyone. at Adam's been on a few times. Danny still hasn't come on.
01:37:48
Speaker
Yeah. You're also making a game. It's not ready yet, but you're also working on like ah on ah a little tabletop-ish game. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm working on a game that's... Jesselheim's World is... Right now it's D&D, but I'm also making an original game that's sort of powered by the apocalypse mixed with Final Fantasy tactics-y stuff, but less um grids and more range. It's been a long work. like Adam played an earlier version, and I...
01:38:16
Speaker
i'm I need to come back to them when I'm done with the new one because it's something I'm more comfortable running. It's work in progress. You don't want to rush a good thing, but you also just got to keep plugging forward and make some mistakes. so You know, but yeah, so that's just, can you remind me how it's spelled? I believe. That's it, yeah. No, it's G-U-E-S. It's got the word guest in it. G-U-E-S-T-A-L-E-S. Oh, when it's spelled, it's
01:38:56
Speaker
ah find it um Go play Nair Automata. Go watch Raylo Maddo Madica Magica. Play Chrono Trigger. Yeah, play Mega Man. read Play Mega Man Legends.
01:39:08
Speaker
Yeah, play... um Read Sean's book. Yeah, read Sean's What was the name of it again? The book? Wait, what? the The story you you liked.
01:39:19
Speaker
Oh, that was Kamen Rider Dime. G-A-I-M. go Go check that out. Read Lam, if you like funny books. Read Lam, yep. Yeah, it's very Read Stormlight Archives. It didn't bring it up, but I should because it's a great series.
01:39:35
Speaker
Do that too. A fun quick teaser at it. Just look up What is a Gaim? ah There you go. A sincerity of the show. There you go. Look up What is a Gaim? There you go. Danny, you do voice stuff?
01:39:49
Speaker
I do voice stuff. And if you want to hear voice stuff, I have a fiver you can check out if you want me to do your voice stuff. I am also on Instagram where I voice naughty things.
01:40:03
Speaker
I'm also, i think I'm going to start streaming again. So me and my friend, we're going to start streaming our Archipelago runs. So if you want to check that out, I'm probably going to stream it on Danny Guarantee.com.
01:40:18
Speaker
ah So yeah, you can watch me play a bunch of games all randomized together. My friend will also stream his view of it. um But it should be a good time if you want to just come hang out.
01:40:32
Speaker
See Mega Man Legends will be in it so you can see the game. It's true. As will Majora's Mask. ah Oracle of Ages and Seasons for the Game
Community Appreciation and Positivity
01:40:44
Speaker
Boy. Hollow Knight.
01:40:48
Speaker
What else was I planning on playing? I'm going to play a lot of games. So many games. And I believe were' so we were talking about starting it on the 6th, but we will see.
01:40:59
Speaker
Well, who knows when that's going to be? Yeah, could be any time. It could be any time. Yeah, yeah. So go do all the things. Find Danny on the 6th. Even if you can't watch, you know, if I'm doing it on YouTube, it'll have the VOD.
01:41:13
Speaker
Feel free to check that out if you want. Video on demand is what that means. Did you know that? I didn't. Yeah. I just thought it was short for like Vodio. they had Yeah, I never even questioned it. i was like, oh, it's a VOD. It's just called VOD. That's what it's called. It's called a VOD. Like, my name is Dan. I'm sorry. You're right. ah Golden Sun Dark Dawn. Not Dark Dawn.
01:41:33
Speaker
The Lost Age is going to be in it, too. For sure. um And yeah, and hey, shout out to everyone here who hung out in the stream, who listens to the audio, who does both. um Shout out to Terry for buying a shirt.
01:41:47
Speaker
um Thanks, mom and dad. That's a review on the store of Gabe rocking the shirt and he looks incredible in it. But a red shirt that says um I think it just says red shirt. It just says red shirt. Yeah.
01:42:07
Speaker
It's so stupid. That's a great it's a perfect shirt. It's so funny. ah Anyway, ah so yeah, there's that. Dixon just got a bundle of shirts for every work day of the week um and showed us a photo and that's very great. So thank you for your support there.
01:42:24
Speaker
If you go to FundanceLarsNetwork.biz, you can find the store there or you can just go to um ah the show notes because I usually put it in there if you want to find the store. It's on Etsy. um We have a new shirt up there. Dixon just said I'd crack my... Dude, I laugh at the stupidest shit. so like I forget the dumb things that I do and make and then I'm reminded and it's why I personally think I'm the funniest person I know.
01:42:52
Speaker
like I am my own biggest fan when it comes Yeah, I've been there too. I get it. i hate I hate it, but it is who I am. ah It's so funny. no Now he's back. He's breaking again. More people.
01:43:08
Speaker
More people should own these shirts, okay? We have a bucket shirt on the website. There's three colors. It just says bucket on it. People think it's funny. I promise if you wear bucket out, people will ask you questions. It's great. Just bucket. um Yeah, hate to look back and I'm going to go up.
01:43:26
Speaker
I do it a lot at home. Like a lot. of but um I just think I'm so funny. and Adam's one of those guys that'll just be sitting there silently and then suddenly like as he remembers something. Then you have to be like, at what what this time? What happened this time?
01:43:46
Speaker
Yeah. So we have our literally labeled, uh, color shirts. So you can go and find those. If you like pink shirt, it'll say pink shirt. Uh, if you go to the days of the week, we have Sunday through Saturday, baby, go check those out and then, uh, look for some other things. We're thinking about doing a little greeting card. Um,
01:44:02
Speaker
um Yeah, and we really appreciate it And we also we have a Kofi or Kofi, however you pronounce it. Just fun installers is what it's called. um If you can, that's great. We put that money towards helping other creators and network. If you can't, that's also fine. You can just go on there and say hi. Hey, thanks for being here. um but Thank you for listening. Thank you for talking to us. Thank you for everything else. um And um Danny says it's a dream come true to be here. sean was just a little dream come true.
01:44:28
Speaker
um everyone here feels like it's a dream come true, right, Sean? You get it. you get know yeah i always love being on here. It's a cool chat, it cool people, and don't annoy me like the McElroy brothers. oh no No hate for the McElroys here.
01:44:44
Speaker
But no. ah But yeah, we appreciate you coming. We appreciate... The last thing I'll say that like I don't get to say, and that i not that I don't get to, but I probably don't make as much of ah of a...
01:44:57
Speaker
concerted effort to say these days is that like, you know, as the world is on fire, something been really nice to have is like this constant network of people who were like around there ki to talk to, not to, because I'm so hot right now. It's so fucking toasty. Yeah, you are. um It's like 90 degrees in this house and my asshole was literally like,
01:45:18
Speaker
filling up a bucket under my chair. I'm kidding. It's not doing that. um But it's real bad up in here. But anyway, you know, I really appreciate not only just the people who listen and the people who watch and the family members of the people who listen and the people who watch um and who are part of the show, but people who are actually in the network too.
01:45:36
Speaker
All of you guys who are here on the show, Danny, Sean, of course, Dixon and and and Hitch and all of our buddies, Cass, Kimmy and everybody else whose names i just are just not coming my brain right now, but you know I love you.
01:45:47
Speaker
I appreciate that. I will say i tried to start a network at the height of the pandemic and it lasted about a year and it all fell apart because they had too many cooks in the kitchen who had different ideas of what they thought a network should be.
01:46:01
Speaker
ah And now I've had this one for... three, four years now. And it's been fucking awesome. And everybody in here, I still like, and everybody's my friends and I still love them. And I like to see them and I visit them and we talk all the time. And even when there's times that go and like life is getting really difficult or busy and we don't always have time, we always check in anyway. so it's just really nice to have that community that stays.
01:46:24
Speaker
So, you know, thank you for that. So even if this never blows up the way that I hope it does someday, this has been one of the most rewarding things I've ever gotten to have. So thank you to everybody who's in the network. Thank you to people who listen. Thank you to the family members of the people who are in the network.
01:46:38
Speaker
It really means a lot to me. So just thank you for just doing all this shit. You're here. I love being a part of this group. Hell yeah. And like Dixon says, Adam's getting mushy, but we love our mushy Adam.
01:46:50
Speaker
God, I get so, I'm so mushy right now. Cause I'm all wet. We love a good mushy Adam. So wet.
01:46:58
Speaker
It's not a bad thing. More men should express their feelings.
Episode Wrap-Up and Farewells
01:47:01
Speaker
God damn it. Cool guys. Cool guys express their feelings even when they're hot You know, I actually i thought about in all seriousness starting like an alpha male podcast.
01:47:14
Speaker
But with actual real advice. Yeah. Yeah. You know, oh, so you want to get a girl to like you? All right well, first step, she's a human being. You have to treat her like one. Or you know what step one is, guys? Everybody knows.
01:47:30
Speaker
Don't be a piece of shit. Don't be a piece of shit. there's Try not to be a piece of shit this year. And all every Girls will like you. And people will like you. You'll like yourself more. You'll respect yourself more. It's not hard. Don't be a dick has always been the number one rule. Look at this.
01:47:43
Speaker
Nobody on your screen right now is a dick. And we all are hanging out and having fun. Yeah. It's true. So thank you all for being here.
01:47:53
Speaker
Thank you all for listening. Thank you all for watching. Don't be a piece of shit this year. Don't be a dick. And love, peace, and Applebee's for all of you. And we'll see you all next time. So be safe out there, everybody.
01:48:06
Speaker
Bye. Bye. Bye.