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Is Disney Dropping The Ball With ANDOR Season 2?
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Cassian Andor returns in Andor Season 2 alongside Mon Mothma and Director Krennic... but is Disney/Lucasfilm purposely trying to sabotage their return to the silver screen? In this episode of the podcast, we discuss the weird marketing and trailer release of Andor Season 2, as well as react and breakdown the Andor Season 2 Trailer itself!
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Andor Season 2 Marketing Challenges
00:00:00
Speaker
With Andor season two, it seems like they're making some critical mistakes for a show that really struggled with viewership in season one. I mean, think about it this way. It's a month.
00:00:10
Speaker
We're getting a month of Andor and that's it. Exactly. Lucasfilm is willing to sacrifice the impact of their best Star Wars show if it means they get a couple more views.
00:00:26
Speaker
Welcome back to this is the Wayseekers, a podcast for Star Wars fans by Star Wars fans. My name is Austin SWE. I'm joined with my co-host, as always, Scotty Holiday, to be discussing Andor Season 2 because we finally got a trailer which marks the official start of our Andor era.
00:00:45
Speaker
Yeah, ah we're in our Andor era, if you did not know. And y'all know we hear this is the way seekers love Andor. We're super excited for season two It's our favorite Star Wars show.
00:00:57
Speaker
We just ranked it super high in our tier list. So I'm um'm really excited. And we've been waiting for this trailer and it's finally here. Yeah, yeah. The trailer took quite a bit of time, but overall, i'm I'm still super excited for
Release Strategy Concerns
00:01:11
Speaker
the series. I think that season two is going to be just as magical as season one. But Scotty, as excited as I am for season two and as excited as we have been,
00:01:21
Speaker
I'm a little disappointed, I guess, in some of the ways that Lucasfilm is going about releasing the series, marketing the series, promoting the series. It seems like they're making some critical mistakes for a show that really struggled with viewership in season one.
00:01:37
Speaker
We know that the show just didn't have the same success as some of the other shows, even though, like many agree with us, it's the best Star Wars show that Disney has released. And how do we avoid that with season two?
00:01:49
Speaker
We market it differently, but it almost feels like they're making some mistakes that will directly impact and or and make it harder to succeed for season two.
00:02:00
Speaker
And it almost contradicts with how desperate they seem to get those views in season two. So I don't know. I want to talk about it. But how do you feel? Um, it, it definitely feels odd and it's, it's like kind of hard to explain because it feels like with other past seasons of, like final seasons of a show, they've marketed like, this is the final season. It's going to be super big. It's going to be super great. You can't miss it.
00:02:27
Speaker
And this one, they're just like, here's that show y'all really liked. Right. Um, we feel indifferent about it. Let's get it over with, uh, and then move on to what,
00:02:38
Speaker
I know exactly, because what what the fuck comes next? It's so weird the the way that they're going about the show, because, yeah, like you said, the theme here seems to be here you go. Damn, let's get it over with.
00:02:49
Speaker
Because for those who don't know, the show, instead of being released over the span of 12 weeks, because there's 12 episodes, it's being released within the span of four weeks.
00:03:01
Speaker
which means that for four weeks straight, we're going to be getting three episodes of Andor a week. I mean, think about it this way. It's a month. We're getting a month of Andor and that's it.
00:03:12
Speaker
A month of Andor when we could have been getting three months of Andor, three months of discussing this show.
Binge-Watching vs. Weekly Releases
00:03:18
Speaker
And you may be asking yourself, why would these people care? how they're releasing the show. It's not going to impact the quality of it.
00:03:26
Speaker
And while that's true, while and or season two is still going to be just as awesome as it would have been if it was released across 12 weeks, weeks There's something that comes with a weekly TV show and and or season one really showed that because there were so many, there there were so many moments in and or season one that we were able to sit with because we didn't get three episodes all at once. Think of the Narkeena five arc, for example,
00:03:53
Speaker
We got to meet Kino Loy in the first episode and and see and Cassian and or going to prison the day to day life of these prisoners. And then in the next episode, we start to see things crumble and, you know, we we see Kino Loy's mindset crumble with how he sees Narcino five. And, you know, he always was obedient with it. And now he's like, fuck this. We got to get out of here.
00:04:15
Speaker
We got to sit with that moment before the eventual episode three, the big payoff where they escape the prison and everything happens where it all comes to fruition.
00:04:25
Speaker
We got to sit with that that whole arc and those characters, Kino Loy, Cassian, Melshi for three weeks before we got to that big final payoff. And you can't tell me that that didn't impact the enjoyment of the series, the discussions we got to have, the speculation we got to have. I mean, we're on a fucking Star Wars podcast right now.
00:04:47
Speaker
I think we understand the importance of speculating each week, coming up with theories. And with season two, it just doesn't seem like we'll get that because we're going to be having each arc released in the same day. We're getting the beginning, middle and end of each arc. There's not much room for speculation.
00:05:04
Speaker
And when there's a year time jump in between arcs, how much are we really going to be able to speculate? How much are we really going to be able to theorize when all the, you know, arcs are kind of segmented off?
00:05:18
Speaker
I think. No, it does. And I'm almost like, okay, so if they decided we have to do this in three episode arcs, because, you know, in an interview, Diego Luna, in an interview with Rotten Tomatoes, Diego Luna was like, you know, we shot season one, like a movie, and we're doing the same thing for season two.
00:05:37
Speaker
And I think that makes sense, because of like the scale of the show and the story that they're trying to tell. So ah Maybe I could be okay with getting, you know, all three episodes at once per week.
00:05:49
Speaker
If we got like a week or two in between, you know what I mean? Like, so we had time to sit with everything, but like, we've talked about this before. This is honestly the culmination of how the streaming method has ruined TV and
Trailer Criticism and Music Choice
00:06:02
Speaker
movies.
00:06:02
Speaker
um Because I think Disney's like, Oh, we want to give the fans, you know, from the start to the finish, the climax of each arc on a weekly basis, because they don't want to have to wait. So we're going to give it to them all up front.
00:06:15
Speaker
I hate that. You're starting to sound like me, like a millennial that wants to watch weekly television, not this binge bullshit, because like you said, we don't have that time to like get invested in our characters as much and to build up the anticipation for whatever climax is coming with by the third episode.
00:06:34
Speaker
And I don't love that. I mean, right. I'm not going to complain about it from a creator standpoint because nobody wants to listen to us complain about it that way. But it is going to be harder to talk about the show, too. And like you said, even the speculation um within the fandom, the conversations online aren't going to be anywhere near like they were for season one, because, you know, for we have to sit down for basically two or three hours and then we're all going to go to bed.
00:06:59
Speaker
Right. Exactly. It's going to be releasing so late. Yeah, it it feels so weird. And you brought up a great point that it almost seems like they're rewarding those people that need that instant gratification, that they can't sit and watch something without that big climactic moment like the Narkina 5 prison arc the um even with the Aldani arc because everyone complained about those first few episodes but that had a giant payoff visually and emotionally so exactly because yeah people talked about season one being slow that you know it was boring that was a big yeah but I think that you know
00:07:44
Speaker
at the end of the day, so many, but so many of us enjoyed the series for that. And I'm just going to miss that in season two. Same. I I've seen some, you know, arguments like, okay, think about it this way. We're going to be getting a star Wars movie each week. And that's kind of cool. I guess, you know, we're going to be getting like two to three hours.
00:08:03
Speaker
So it's basically like a star Wars movie, but then, you know, my cynical mind is like, well then make four fucking star Wars movies. Don't, Give it to us within these three episodes, you know, make four Star Wars movies.
00:08:16
Speaker
Something to think about that too, is like, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. Like we've complained in the past about them cutting up a movie into, you know, episodic for a series like Obi-Wan Kenobi, for example. Yeah.
00:08:30
Speaker
um But they're not doing that with Andor. They're giving us like the full movie right per week. So it's going to be very interesting, but I think it just depends on if it was shot like a movie so it feels continuous or if it does feel more episodic in the three episodes. Yeah.
00:08:49
Speaker
Yeah, I think something that yeah a good thing here is that each arc has one director. So I bet you yes each episode will feel more connected like a movie rather than three episodes episodic. But, you know, it still would have been nice to have that, you know,
00:09:08
Speaker
that that time to think about things and it just goes into what you said about how it feels like they're almost like let's just get this over with let's just get the show out um and that could be for one reason or another because one because it's you know a huge political statement on the state of our world um yeah revolutions the state of our country specifically america you know well did Disney could be scared of that in this new political climate we have going on.
00:09:39
Speaker
Don't forget about the lesbians. yeah Yeah, there's two lesbian characters. And they're going to be back. They're in D23 footage that was leaked, so there yeah they're in this season.
00:09:50
Speaker
Yeah, and in that D23 footage, they seem to be getting busy. don't know I'd say busy, but definitely there's definitely an intimate like face. like Yeah. yeah yeah so um I'm excited for them to return.
00:10:03
Speaker
But then also, like we talked about, the trailer took forever to come out, where it's like... You would think that they would have been wanting to market this show six months ago to make a big splash so people know that this shit is coming.
00:10:17
Speaker
Instead, this is the second shortest period of time between a trailer releasing and the first episode of the series releasing, which was 57 days. The only one above it in first place is Mando season two, which had like 45 days in between, which was also ridiculous.
00:10:34
Speaker
Yeah. um i don't know why they want such little time to market this show when they've they seen that with disney plus they've been doing that with disney plus at least for the star wars stuff like since they started i've always thought that that was horrible marketing i'm not a marketing genius this one this one's even further this is in second place so think of all those like book of boba fett took forever right yeah and or still did worse yeah do Do you know, because the Acolyte trailer came out pretty far ahead.
00:11:04
Speaker
um From what I recall, do you remember how far ahead it was? I don't remember exactly, but it was it it was very early on I want to say it was like in April or something. Yeah, it was like two, three months before.
00:11:18
Speaker
Regardless, that I thought i was like, oh my god, are they finally going to start giving us time with these trailers to really like sit and ruminate with them theorize and speculate like we've been talking about?
00:11:30
Speaker
I don't know. this This whole trailer was just weird. Yeah. Because, you know, like like we talked about, they seem so desperate to get people to watch. And I almost feel like this trailer, I'm hoping that it's more of a teaser than a trailer and that we're going to get like an actual trailer that shows like story and is more in line with the tone of the actual show.
00:11:53
Speaker
Because this trailer seemed like just a just letting you guys know we have a good show. coming out we have a good show that released before and you guys didn't watch it but we promised that this is the good show i wrote down the line i wrote down the one the first season of andor was hailed by critics and everywhere and it was like that was just felt so weird seeing like shots of the trailer like these beautiful shots and then it's covered with this text from like new york times and it's like What the hell? And it it just feels like an admission that they've released bullshit throughout the years that they're like, we know the shows have been bad, but we promise you, we promise this one is good. Just give it a chance.
00:12:38
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's interesting. And that brings me to the point where I'm like, what the fuck was that music choice? um Yeah, the the revolution starts now. I was like, I heard the guitarist coming and was like, OK, whatever. Like, this is fine. But then like the dad rock vocals came in.
00:12:56
Speaker
And it immediately took me out of it, which is somebody who actually really liked the Huttese cover of Major Tom for Skeleton Crew, which was different and divisive. Right. Like, at least that was in Huttese.
00:13:10
Speaker
This one's just straight up in English. And I'm like, did Tony Gilroy pull this off of his Spotify places? Like, this is the song that I like. Right. i will say, and I, you know, in terms of the feeling of Star Wars, it's quite bullshit. You know, it it's not, it it doesn't even fall in line with the tone that we know from Andor before. Like the trailers for Andor season one were very thematic. We knew from the jump that it was very different from anything we've seen from Star Wars.
00:13:41
Speaker
This is different, but it's like different in the sense that it doesn't feel like Star Wars. Like you said, it's dad rock. The one saving grace. The one saving grace.
Disney's Marketing Strategy
00:13:51
Speaker
The song is called The Revolution Starts Now. It's a song about the revolution starting right fucking now.
00:13:57
Speaker
And yeah, they I'm sure they could have found a better song. But at least at least this is not them just being different for the sake of it and being divisive for the sake of it.
00:14:10
Speaker
It falls in line with the theme. The revolution starts now. The revolution is starting in Andor season two. Literally. If there is one thing the Star Wars fandom agrees on right now, it is that this song in this trailer was a horrible choice.
00:14:23
Speaker
i That's all I see. It's all I've seen online. I don't know anybody that was like, fucking love that song, man. That Andrew trailer was stat. i've seen i've seen I've seen some people um definitely defending it. it's To me, it's not like the worst thing ever because it's the trailer. like if If this was in the show, ah trust me, bestie, I'm on this fucking podcast shitting all over it.
00:14:48
Speaker
TV spot music. This is TV spot music. This is not trailer music. I guess so. But you know our friend Alex at Star Wars Explained brought up a good point that you know They're trying to bring in more people. We're already going to fucking watch Andor season two because we loved Andor season one.
00:15:08
Speaker
And they think people that listen to dad rock are feeling political and want to start the revolution? Well, they might be ah targeting people that don't know that this is a different show. It's different series. It's different from Star Wars. don't have...
00:15:21
Speaker
it's different from star wars you know we don't have dad rock in Star Wars but this this show is bold enough to have it in their trailer I don't know I let me have a fucking thing you know I'm always shitting all over everything Star Wars let me have my bullshit defensive moment I fuck with the song No, no, no, oh I can't.
00:15:44
Speaker
No. My issue is more not not even the song. My issue is more that the trailer gave us nothing. We don't really know anything new. okay Well, here's the thing about that.
00:15:58
Speaker
I hate the Disney marketing of we're going to show you a bunch of scenes from the first three episodes in the trailer because I feel like I'm checking off boxes as I watch the first few episodes and see all the scenes. I'm like, now we're finally at the point of the series where we haven't seen any footage.
00:16:14
Speaker
And I like that this Andor trailer did not give me an idea of necessarily what's going on.
Speculation on Season 2 Plot Arcs
00:16:19
Speaker
because yeah i want to get into the show and i want it to grip me and like i want it to be exciting and emotional and whatnot i don't want to feel like oh there's that shot from the trailer where mon mothma's dancing yeah know what i mean yeah i think the shots in this trailer are going to be spread out more throughout the show because i think what they're doing here is gathering all the the big cgi shots the big action shots you know the really cool shots
00:16:46
Speaker
We know damn well, like 80% of the show is going to be people talking and we're going to be fucking clapping eating match for all of it. But you know, that that doesn't make for a good trailer. so you know, for me, instead of really giving us more information, the trailer kind of confirmed some theories I've already had because we have like a few shots from like that Disney plus 2025 teaser they had and some things we've known from like past interviews and such.
00:17:14
Speaker
something I'm interested to see as a Star Wars Rebels fan. I'm pretty sure we're going to be seeing the Gorman Massacre within him this show. For those who don't know, yeah, I'm not the only one who thinks this. um So for those that don't know, the Gorman Massacre was a protest on the planet Gorman, where the Empire basically killed a bunch of innocent protesters for no reason.
00:17:39
Speaker
And the reason that it's important is because this was the first time that Mon Mothma publicly criticized Emperor Palpatine by blaming him for the deaths of all the civilians.
00:17:52
Speaker
It was seen in Star Wars Rebels. I'm pretty sure that Gorman Massacre originally was from Star Wars Legends, but Star Wars Rebels brought it over. And it's a huge moment for Mon Mothma in her, you know,
00:18:04
Speaker
rebellion career it's basically she takes that first step exactly you know like she's taking the mask off she's going you know full she's coming out of the closet oh you know ah queer icon mon mothma yes So I think that that's going to be seen Andor season two, just because we've seen protests, you know, we see stormtroopers laying out these protesters. We see civilians laying down on the ground in front of a bunch of stormtroopers.
00:18:34
Speaker
I'm pretty sure that it's all within the same sequence where Cassian Andor is in this like rich asshole disguise, you know, at this party Because, you know, you know what I'm talking about? It all takes place like in this court. Yeah, it all seems like it's the same. thing It's been a big struggle trying to like because I'm working on my video review of the trailer and I keep being like, what do I call these scenes that are happening? i'm like the riot, the protest. And it's all in the. Yeah, it's got like the white architecture. it Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:05
Speaker
I originally thought it was Shandrilla, but the more that I've kind of pieced together what I think the arcs are going to entail, I'm like, this isn't going to be on Shandrilla because I feel like we're going to get on Mothma arc and that's going to focus on her on Coruscant and then her her on Shandrilla.
00:19:21
Speaker
So this place does feel like it's going to be its own separate kind of arc. And I think it's all going to lead up to that protest. And It's going to be very interesting to see how it's woven into the actual story of Cassian and or and the rebellion like where it's going to fit in there.
00:19:40
Speaker
And I really hope that we get to see a beautiful monologue by Genevieve O'Reilly in live action. Right. denouncing palpatine because like you said we do get like i would call it highlights of the speech and star wars rubbles but you're not going to have like ah giant intricate monologue in an animated show that's supposed to appeal to all ages right like I want to see Genevieve O'Reilly get her like get her flowers because like we said, this is her big moment where she finally steps into, you know, a public leader of the rebellion opposing Empire.
00:20:16
Speaker
So I really hope that we get that for her. And y'all know I love Mon Mothma. So she deserves all the screen time. Yeah, absolutely. And it seems like this season is going to be a big one for Mon Mothma.
00:20:28
Speaker
We know from season one that she's giving her daughter away, Leda, hopes to get more funding for the rebellion. And it's like this big moment for her because it's it really tests Mon Mothma and what she stands for. yeah.
00:20:44
Speaker
She's not getting more funding for the rebellion. She's only doing it to hide the fact that she's funding. Oh, right. She was. Yeah. To hide. Yeah. And honestly, it sucks because I don't think it's going to work out for her because there's a shot in the trailer where, oh, what's his name? Davos golden, the dad of the son that she's giving her daughter away to in the trend drilling.
00:21:09
Speaker
What do you call it? Tradition. you know to arrange have an arranged marriage yes exactly it seems like he rats her out to none other than director orson krennic because there's a shot of krennic talking to mon mothma and then danvo scolding and it's blurred out and you can't really tell i haven't seen a lot of people talking about it but in later shots you can match up you know, Davos Golden's costume.
00:21:36
Speaker
I'm pretty sure you had told me that you can match up Mon Mothma's earrings. Oh, and those cheekbones. And the cheekbones. And those cheekbones. She is cut. Yes. Like, i was like, that's Genevieve O'Reilly, clearly.
00:21:47
Speaker
And that's definitely Davos Golden. It's interesting that you think that he rats Mon out. Because... in my opinion, like the way I viewed it, because I noticed the same thing when I was going through the trailer.
00:22:00
Speaker
And I kind of thought that it might be a situation where credit comes in and starts researching more into Mon in general and like take special interest in what she is doing.
00:22:12
Speaker
Because we know from when she was working with take home, what she have like 40,000 like credits or something that just like disappeared or something, maybe 400,000. Either way, you know, that's the reason why she takes that step and goes through with the arranged marriage, a tradition that she's so against.
00:22:29
Speaker
right Because she doesn't feel like she has another option. and And so my assumption is that Krennic is slowly catching on to this weird financial stuff going on. And that's why he's questioning both of them, because they're both tied to it.
00:22:43
Speaker
I assume that Davos Golden is like going to be her new person taking care of her finances, essentially, on the outside. Right. That makes sense. ah Yeah, I guess for me, I jump to conclusions because it's like, fuck that guy.
00:22:59
Speaker
you know i don't trust him. He's a thug. Right. But you bring up a great point that like the whole... point of him even being in this story is to cover up for Mon Mothma.
00:23:11
Speaker
and And he gets to marry his son away to a wealthy family of Shandrilla. So he gets higher status from it, too. Right. So, yeah, I guess it is more likely that he's in that moment covering up for Mon Mothma or, like you said, protecting her her banking statements, you know, things like that.
00:23:31
Speaker
Well, one other thing that I also wanted to bring up since we're talking about Krennic is it seems like the ISB is getting a little bit of an upgrade this season. um We know time is going to pass, obviously, so they're going to grow larger because there's more insurgents that they have to deal with.
00:23:47
Speaker
And I'm curious if we're going to actually be moving from the original building that they were in in season one and moving into, ah ah what is it called? The Imperial Inspectorate HQ, which is the original Republic Center for Military Operations where like the clone memorial was. Right.
00:24:06
Speaker
There's also scenes of what looks like training stormtroopers or ISB agents doing some kind of training with stormtroopers. So I'm wondering if they're going to be moving to that building. And the one thing that kind of ties it together that I did not know is that Krennic designed that building.
00:24:22
Speaker
Oh, interesting. I had no idea. i was just trying to look up for my own notes what the building was called. And I'm on Wikipedia. And it says, and it was designed by Orson Krennic. And I was like, oh, no fucking way.
00:24:37
Speaker
Yeah. So I'd love to see that tied in somehow. Yeah, I bet you that's probably from the novel Catalyst, right? I don't remember where it was from, but... Yeah, I'd imagine i'd imagine so.
00:24:49
Speaker
And what's cool about Andor is that you know it's always people always talk about the show that's breaking the the curse of cameos and and big flashy, you know, remember this?
00:25:02
Speaker
Yeah, Easter eggs. Right. But Andor has some deep cut references to things that Rogue One specifically had with its tie in material.
00:25:13
Speaker
And i have no doubt that they're going to continue that with season two. And something like that could very well be kept in line. You know, where, of course, if this was a Dave Filoni show, we'd be talking about how they don't even know let that that happened or that exists or they'd wreck on it um but you're totally right and i didn't even think of it in that sense that sounds like the type of easter egg that tony gilroyd would put into it and it's like oh yeah krennic designed that building perfect and they wouldn't make a big like here's our new fancy isb headquarters designed by orson krennic and here he comes in with his fucking cape and shit
00:25:51
Speaker
Like it would just be, a oh my God, they're literally at that place where the, the Geonosis Memorial was for the clones. But of course it's taken down at this point. um So I, I would really like that. And I, that's one of the things I loved about Andor too, is like, they're still Easter eggs, but they're so they're not played up for like,
00:26:12
Speaker
Ooh, look at this cool thing that you know from this.
Potential Character Cameos and Crossovers
00:26:16
Speaker
Like it's more of just a deep cut or deep cuts or just things that only like super fans are going to notice. Yeah, absolutely.
00:26:24
Speaker
And speaking of Easter eggs, I want to ask you as the resident Knights of the Old Republic, do you think that those grassy fields, do you think that's Dantooine? Yeah.
00:26:35
Speaker
Great question. No. However, however, i do. i do have an idea that we might see Dan to win in this show.
00:26:46
Speaker
So something else in the Rotten Tomatoes interview that Diego Luna did back in August talking about. and or season two said that there's like five main planets and they all kind of have this lived in community feel just like ferric's did in season one so i was trying to figure out what these five planets could be you know we're gonna have coruscant obviously we're gonna have what you think is gorman we're gonna have shandrilla most likely right and then uh yavin so what's our fifth planet And as I'm going through the trailer, I'm trying to figure out where the partisans are, because they clearly have a new base and it's grassy and it looks a little bit like Dakar from The Force Awakens.
00:27:27
Speaker
But I was wondering if that might actually be Dantooine, because in my head, how perfect would it be for Leia to be like other rebels are on Dantooine? Because she knew Gerrera's partisans, who they cut ties with from the rebellion because they were too extreme.
00:27:43
Speaker
And she was kind of selling them out in that moment being like, well, if we're going to take a sacrifice, there's technically rebels on this planet and they have a base last I knew. So I thought that would just be a really fun kind of retcon easter egg in a sense but like you mentioned in general because i love knights the old republic i made a whole lo-fi song about the dantooine background music in the game so i really want to see dantooine at some point plus it's it's the only other planet that has a similar name like to tatooine there's tatooine and dantooine and they talk about dantooine but we never go there right
00:28:21
Speaker
Yeah, I'm glad you brought up that scene in A New Hope with Leia and Tarkin, because that scene been recontextualized a few times where it's like, okay, at one point there was actually a rebel base on Dantooine, and you know it shows the incompetence of the Imperials when Tarkin's like, I forget what he says exactly, but basically that there can't be...
00:28:43
Speaker
a rebel base because there's a way to hide it on that planet one of the ones that i liked i don't know if this was legends canon or like a fanon type thing that tarkin is from dantooine and when leia told him dantooine was the location she knew that tarkin you know that that's his home planet was he gonna blow it up was he gonna you know i always kind of liked that one but you brought up a really good one that i think takes the top spot where it's like You know, what if that is the case where I saw and his partisans are on Dantooine, at least as far as Leia knows and sells them out. I really like that.
00:29:23
Speaker
Dantooine was also so originally going to appear in Rogue One. And they were going to go, them escaping Dantooine. um and love that. There was going to be, or there was a rebel base on Dantooine. And it almost seems like, because I know the shots you're talking about, kind of seems like that's kind of what we're seeing, maybe like an evacuation of, ah you know, Saw and his partisans, because we see the X-Wings that specifically go with his partisans. So...
00:29:49
Speaker
Yeah. And we see that body too. And it's not an Imperial. Like I, yeah, there's some interesting stuff that's going to happen with the partisans and I'm excited that we're going to get more of them.
00:29:59
Speaker
um But one thing i do want to point out mentioning that grassy planet, a lot of people are thinking it's like you thought it's Dan Tweed. I think it's Ganji moon, which is just where um Brasso, Jesse, Bix and Wilman pack. We're all going.
00:30:16
Speaker
once they escape from ferrix there's like a throwaway line about oh you can get as far as ganji moon and you know ill we'll meet up there oh okay so that's where that's what i thought that planet was right and we probably need a new planet because when you were naming off all the the planets i was like oh is there like there's no new planets yeah well and like even when i was thinking of the planets i was like i don't really want to count coruscant because that's kind of like a given we have to go there but bringing in ganji moon we can argue if it's a planet or a moon but like right that's right that's where i think they that's where i think this grassy it almost looks like wheat like just fields of wheat yeah i saw people bringing up maybe lethal as well you know it looks similar but i don't think that lethal you know, let's all is already central to one rebellion story. And there's not much room for like crossover between those two stories, at least at this point in the timeline.
00:31:15
Speaker
Well, I don't see why it'd be lethal. Maybe they're going to bring in Harrison doula. Oh my God. oh my god i've seen people genuinely say this like i've watched some videos about like and or season two speculation and when people sit here and they're like well this character could appear i'm like do you are you watching this fucking show or no like do you do you have like a a weirdest character you think could appear that like would make more sense than just like a oh i'd love to see this person
00:31:49
Speaker
i'm only on the spot I'm only asking because I have one. so if you want me to do mine first, I'll go first. Yeah, do yours first because now I'm on the spot and I know that there's characters that I would like to appear. So this is more of a wild card, ah but Cal Kestis.
00:32:04
Speaker
The reason I say that what the reason that I say it is because one, we know he worked with the partisans between the events of Jedi fallen order and Jedi survivor.
00:32:15
Speaker
And all those hanger shots, like in the Imperial hanger, it looked straight out of the Jedi games. So i was like, if I could see any wild card kind of person appearing in this, this one would make sense to me. That would just be out of left field.
00:32:32
Speaker
ah yeah I don't expect it to happen, but I think there's a possibility of Cal and Cassian have crossed paths at some point. And I like that. I like that. Yeah, I feel like that one is just like two out of left field. I feel like one, if we're if we're talking about like ones that could genuinely happen, but it's also like wildcard.
00:32:56
Speaker
Agent Callis. He's yeah b you know, that's that's who I thought you were going to say. And I do think that he's the most kind of like wild, if especially if we're going to pull from another medium that's not like TV or movies.
00:33:09
Speaker
Yeah, I just hope if they bring him in, he's hot. Yeah. ah But I mean, it makes sense. right He's ISB, but again, I just don't think i just don't think so.
00:33:21
Speaker
Because at the same time, we could sit here and be like, well, yeah, the Ghost Crew does make sense. Maybe we will see Harrison Dula and Kanan Jarrus because they're on Yavin 4. But please don't. Don't forget the whole BS of the fulcrum agents, if that's even really a thing anymore. Right, so we could see Ahsoka. Ahsoka and Kallus.
00:33:41
Speaker
um And they haven't even mentioned Cassian being a fulcrum agent, so I'll be interested to see if it gets a name drop. um But we know that that was with Bail Organa. And we haven't seen none of Bale.
00:33:53
Speaker
so i think Bale Organa is more likely. you know, once we get to the Yavin stuff, it's like I'm pretty sure we're going to start seeing a lot of those characters we saw in Rogue One. And I hope so. Admiral Raddus, Tim and Pamela from Terrace, ah Daddy, Antocmeric, Blue Leader.
00:34:10
Speaker
knew you were going to say that. ah You can't forget him. You can't forget him.
Hopes for Andor Season 2
00:34:15
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But I think overall, Andor Season 2, it looks very promising.
00:34:22
Speaker
Like I said before, I'm sure it's going to fall in line with the quality of Season 1. I just really hope that they're not making choices that go directly against the series because this show has so much going for it. And it just feels like with Andor Season 2 that Lucasfilm is willing to sacrifice the impact of their best Star Wars show if it means they get a couple more views.
00:34:45
Speaker
I don't want that. Yeah. and And at this point, we talked about this prior to recording, but it's like, what's really coming next? We've got visions coming out. And after that, what is it? The movies that are two, three years out. So why are they rushing this?
00:35:02
Speaker
Because afterwards we're going to have nothing. Why would you rush your last like big production? I mean, they literally postponed Skeleton Crew for like two years. Exactly.
00:35:13
Speaker
just to continue to have content kind of drop every few months. And now we're like, we're just going to get it, literally get it hard and fast and then be done. And that doesn't satisfy anybody. Exactly. It sucks.
00:35:25
Speaker
But either way, we'll be discussing all episodes of Andor on This is the Wayseeker starting the Thursday after April 22nd. So it's April 24th. I'm excited for it. But until then, Scotty, why don't you send us out of here?
00:35:40
Speaker
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