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🔥 Andor Season 2 Arc 3 has officially taken us to the darkest place in Star Wars yet — the Ghorman Massacre. In this episode of This Is The Wayseekers, we break down Episodes 7–9: "Messenger," "Who Are You?" and "Welcome to the Rebellion." This arc hits hard, and we’re here to unpack all of it, from gut-wrenching moments to galaxy-shifting decisions.
💥 We dive into the emotional weight of the Ghorman genocide, the brutal tactics of the Empire, and how this arc mirrors real-world history. We also discuss Mon Mothma’s powerful Senate speech, Cassian’s transformation, and the tragic fate of Syril Karn and Dedra Meero.
💬 Expect our full reaction, recap, and breakdown of every key moment — plus all the easter eggs and deep lore connections you might have missed, including ties to Rogue One, Rebels, and even Tales of the Empire/Underworld.
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Introduction and Emotional Responses to Andor
00:00:00
Speaker
I felt like I was being held at gunpoint watching this whole Mormon massacre play out. Like the adrenaline, the anger, the and anger, seeing that dumb ass sniper shoot one of his own so that, you know, a whole riot would start and people start shooting at each other. And you see them literally open fire on innocent civilians, unarmed, that guy that's standing at the top, you know, just protesting. Waving a flag.
00:00:28
Speaker
Waving a flag, shot down. Like, Oh!
00:00:37
Speaker
Welcome back to This is the Wayseekers, a podcast for Star Wars fans by Star Wars fans. This is probably going to be a very mournful episode of This is the Wayseekers, a very sad one with these new episodes of Andor that we're going to discuss.
00:00:52
Speaker
But on the other side of things, we got to see some characters collide that we've been seeing separate apart for all this time. Kind of like us, Scotty. You know, we're coming together now to discuss Andor Season 2, Arc 3.
00:01:04
Speaker
Scotty, how are you feeling this week? I know you're Things are heavy in the room right now, but i hope you're holding strong. Yeah, this was a really powerful episode in so many different ways, in some really positive and uplifting ways, in some really sad, just really sad and tragic
Character Analysis: Dedra, Cyril, and Rebellion Dynamics
00:01:23
Speaker
ways.
00:01:23
Speaker
This episode, or this arc, was a lot. yeah um i definitely teared up multiple times. No surprise there. and to the point where I was like choking up and like trying to hold it back because it was about to get ugly.
00:01:36
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. And i even I even cried. And you know that that's usually not a thing for me. But even in in some of the moments, like seeing um um what's Cyril's mom's name? Edie. Edie.
00:01:50
Speaker
Seeing her reaction to Cyril possibly dying. As far as she knows, we know he's dead. um You think that's what Things like that got me upset and sad. What do you mean that's what it was?
00:02:02
Speaker
She's watching the news thinking about her how her son is dead. I'm so dumb. I was like, she's so full of propaganda. She's crying about the lost Imperial soldiers. no she's crying because she knows Cyril is there.
00:02:16
Speaker
I mean, hello. Well, sorry, girl. But I don't know. i even Even though I didn't like her character and things, it's just like the... the tragedy of it all and I feel that way about so many characters, Dedra, Cyril, characters that are obviously at fault here and and bad characters and and bad people but I can't help but look at them as victims of this entire imperial regime, um the the Empire taking advantage of them and i don't know, maybe call me the friend that's too woke but
00:02:48
Speaker
Deidre, Cyril, they are victims of this entire thing. I mean, we've heard Deidre's backstory now and just the way that the Empire takes advantage of these people um to the point where they're so far gone by the time they both kind of realize that things are way fucked up.
00:03:05
Speaker
It's beyond their control. There's no going back at that point. And that's the tragedy. of it all and that's not even at that point halfway through the damn arc yeah that was that was one thing i wrote down is one they're in too deep that there's no turning back at this point and that's tragic on its own and i'm a little curious if they're going to use dedra as a scapegoat and try to place all this blame on her which sorry girl like you made the decision at the end of the day so you're going to get what's coming for you especially for all the people whose lives were lost under her command
00:03:38
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. Just the amount of fuckery that went on, and it felt so real and so tragic. So I want to get into it. I want to talk about it.
00:03:49
Speaker
I guess let's start with maybe the happier side of things, the way that episode started. To BBY, we find Cassian Andor and Bix both living on Yavin.
00:03:59
Speaker
Did you expect to see Yavin kind of forming already? I kind of assumed to be the last arc. Honestly, not at all. I didn't expect it at all. I didn't expect that we'd be seeing like literal troops like being recruited ah like people that were coming to join the rebellion, which I thought was really cool too.
00:04:15
Speaker
That's how, you know, we get our reunited with Wilman as well. Yeah, 100%. And that was really cool because we talked about last week, would he be staying with Saul's partisans? I hate my words.
00:04:26
Speaker
I hate words because you said he'd be there and I was like, no, I won't. Yeah, exactly. And I wish we got to see that happen, not, you know, off screen, but it's still
Political Parallels and Real-World Reflections
00:04:36
Speaker
interesting. i wonder what happened there if he, you know...
00:04:39
Speaker
Fell out of touch with Saw? Was there some sort such sort of argument? For some reason, I assumed at the start that like Saw was there on Yavin, and then eventually they would be like kicking Saw off of Yavin.
00:04:54
Speaker
But I don't know. Yeah. That obviously wasn't the case, but... And I almost feel like he's, Saw's way too far gone at this point to where they won't even let him come to Yavin if he wanted to.
00:05:05
Speaker
exactly Exactly. I just wonder what happened off screen to where he's now working ah with Luthen instead of Saw. Because Saw even mentioned working with Luthen during his whole crazy speech about like, you're not with Luthen.
00:05:18
Speaker
You're here now. You're here with me. Yeah. Yeah. so
00:05:24
Speaker
It seems like he's been filling Cassian's place while Cassian has been on Yavin and someone's filling in for his spot with Luthan, I guess, now that Bix and Cassian are doing their thing. Yeah, and and that makes sense. And he comes in here with a mission to kill Dedra Miro um for multiple reasons. One, because of what she did on Ferex. Two, because she's kind of learning more about Luthan and Luthan obviously wants her killed. But most importantly for Willman, I think, is that she's the one who killed his dad.
00:05:53
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Well, and and he's been working with the Gorman front too, and he wants to prevent what happened to his home before it happens to the Gormans. And we find out he's got a little girlfriend. So once again, feelings are involved. This boy moves fast.
00:06:05
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He finds a blonde girl wherever he goes. Yeah, well, he's definitely ah Cassian's son. Now that Cassian's kind of taken that role, I don't know what you'd call it if they're like siblings. I look at it as Cassian and Bix are his newfound parents, but I don't know that's the dynamic.
00:06:25
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But what I think is interesting about seeing Yavin form is the way that like we see, like you said, these troops being recruited. They seem almost excited as they're running into to Yavin, just ready for you know to to have hope to to fight for a better galaxy. yeah And then on the contrary, we're seeing Gorman just fall apart, just...
00:06:46
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the empire cracking down on, on these people to the point where Cyril even notices it, notices it before he even talks to Deidre. And, you know, he, she tells him that they need to evacuate, that things are starting to come to fruition here.
00:07:01
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Even Cyril notices just how fucked up things have gotten on Gorman. We see the newscast, you know, they're talking about propaganda ah propaganda. Yes. How the empire has continued to allow them to, you know, have this sort of rebel activity, but,
00:07:16
Speaker
They're all at the end of the day playing into the Empire's hand, which is so tragic because the characters start to notice it. I can't remember the dad's name. I have it written down. Rylance. Rylance. Yes.
00:07:28
Speaker
He literally realizes before it's too late that. ah the the the empire planned this they wanted everything to happen here and it's so sad and and seeing him confront um cyril about everything that scene was great i don't know the actor's name but jesus fucking christ his performance just the like you could feel the panic the the absolute hatred for the man standing in front of him such a good fucking performance Yeah, that was really rough because as he was realizing it was a trap, I feel like we, the audience, were realizing they were setting a trap as well.
00:08:05
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And like I was i wanted to jump through the screen and like shake these people and be like, no, you're literally doing exactly what they want you to do. And it's unfortunate because like if I was on Gorman, I think I would feel the same way. Like I want to stand up and fight for my home that these people are are taking away from me piece by piece. Right.
00:08:25
Speaker
And i think they they have the right to do that. yeah And they weren't necessarily all the people that were there were not going there to shoot up the square and kill Imperials. That was just, you know, the Gorman front that we've seen. They had people from all over the city.
00:08:40
Speaker
And keep in mind that that was just the capital. I can't imagine what the Empire is going to do after they finished what they did and what we saw them do to the rest of the cities in Gorman. Oh, yeah.
00:08:51
Speaker
Like, as as part gas says, there's not going to be much for them to call home after everything said and done, which is just such a scary thought. And just the way that he doesn't even think twice about being like, well, you know, these people are just going to have to be killed and and everyone's going to have to die and there's no home for them.
Character Motivations and Media Manipulation
00:09:11
Speaker
I never even thought that they were going to attempt to find an alternative fuel source. It was like ah if we stumble upon one, maybe, but we found the perfect one and we have all the resources to just take this planet. It's just a matter of when we can do it.
00:09:24
Speaker
yeah and It's just so unfortunate because we all knew what was going to happen. We knew the Gorman massacre was going to be a thing, but like I was nothing could have prepared me to watch it happen. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It actually was like, I felt like I was being held at gunpoint watching like but this whole Mormon massacre play out like the adrenaline, the anger, the fucking anger, seeing that dumbass sniper shoot one of his own.
00:09:50
Speaker
so that you know a whole riot would start and people start shooting at each other and and you see them literally open fire on innocent civilians unarmed obviously you know civilians start firing back but before that even happens it's just unarmed people dying that guy that's standing at the top you know just protesting a flag waving a flag shot down like oh it just is so fucking angry like i was so angry watching it it makes you want to get up and fight i want to throw a fucking brick at a stormtrooper's head right yeah and i think the worst part about it was the empire not only was willing to kill innocent gormans they were willing to kill innocent soldiers under their command because captain what was his name kato
00:10:40
Speaker
literally he if you if you didn't put this together it seems like he picked these groups that were inept and new because they were literally just oh it'll be fine if they die because we don't really need them like they're not trained super well they're like super low level cadets and we saw that and the fear that they had and literally the empire had snipers ready to shoot one of them and of course they knew because they were so inexperienced as their captain or whoever put he was like they're green like are you sure you want them in the riot squad and He's like, yep, send them out in the middle of the crowd.
00:11:12
Speaker
And you dont know, because they're not trained and they haven't been in these experiences before. As soon as something goes bad, they're just going to start shooting. And all I made me think of is cops.
00:11:23
Speaker
Yep. All it made me think of is cops. I was like, oh my God, we have been through this before in our world. There was so much that we had been through. And I'm just like, if you can't be, if you could be empathetic to the Gorman people. Right. Right.
00:11:37
Speaker
You should be able to have empathy for marginalized groups in the real world, because as tragic as this was, the Gormans are made up people. Sure, they represent different groups in our world, but if you can't have that same empathy for them or want to fight for their rights as well, right you need to rethink your life.
00:11:55
Speaker
100%. mean, I think that's why watching those scenes are so hard to watch. It's because you can you can see the parallels between the real world, between what's happening in Palestine, between even some of the riots that have broken out in recent years in America. Just the scary thought of, oh my God, what could happen here? I mean, think back to 2020, the Black Lives Matter protests.
00:12:19
Speaker
That's exactly what it made me think about. Right. Like, remember them bringing out the fucking National Guard for for these protests. And there were so many cases where the police force were, you know, starting riots or or starting, you know, violence. And then in the end, they blame it on the, the you know.
00:12:40
Speaker
protesters saying they're violent and and everything. you know Even some you know people that were clearly on the the right wing or the rightwing side of things you know inciting violence, you know causing some of that destruction, looting and things like that so that it looked like the peaceful protesters were to blame. It's the same exact things we see carried out here.
00:13:02
Speaker
and was just Like I said, that was why it's so hard to watch because you can just draw the parallels to the real world here. I think what what made my adrenaline because at first it was adrenaline for me.
00:13:15
Speaker
But then when I realized not only were were the Imperials like going to start shooting on anyone that they were trapping them in the square two literally kill and genocide them as mon mothma put it it just like made my heart sink and like even watching it i was like i don't even want to watch this that long shot after enza rylan's daughter gets shot on just her like dead face right
Exploring Rebellion: Civilian vs. Military Tactics
00:13:40
Speaker
and we just have to stare at it for that awkwardly long time it's so uncomfortable but i mean this goes back to the first arc with bix's essay like
00:13:50
Speaker
It's so uncomfortable, but we can't ignore it when it's right in front of us. Exactly. Like it forces you to acknowledge what is happening and question why it's happening. Like it makes you question things. And that's what people are so afraid of.
00:14:03
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. And you can put yourself in in the character's shoes here. Like. the think of the the poor character, obviously don't know his name, but he was there hiding behind one of the little wall structures. He had his gun, he calls them bastards. You know, that was someone who was clearly not meant to be fighting someone who clearly was not meant to be there, but he has no choice.
00:14:28
Speaker
Literally me too. But you know, he has no choice and and that's the the tragic part of it all. He has to fight for his home or else he's just going to die without trying and God, it it just felt, you know, so tragic. I mean, we see like someone like Cassie in there or like some of the rebels, you know, like they're more, you know, ready to fight and things like that. So you're less scared for them.
00:14:52
Speaker
Right. But just like seeing civilians that just aren't ready or or just, you know, the the rebel cell was not ready at all for this attack. Even if the empire never planned it, it still probably would have been ah fucking tragedy. They weren't ready for this type of thing. And,
00:15:08
Speaker
The Empire knows that they took advantage of Gorman for that reason. Exactly. And on top of the fact, like, honestly, they did a lot better than I thought they were going to do holding off the Imperials and as many like kills as they got.
00:15:22
Speaker
But when the KX droids came out, it was completely over watching those droids throw people. Oh, my God. Just kicking the barricade. Yeah. I was like, oh, my God.
00:15:34
Speaker
Terrifying. yeah it it felt very real and they did that thing that they did in rogue one where they kept the cameras on the ground so like you see from like an up angle oh yeah just bodies flying in the air and it's just i just um'm i'm getting angry thinking about it just fucking tragedy everywhere.
00:15:55
Speaker
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00:16:09
Speaker
Whether you enjoy the more serious and political nature of Andor or the connections to the larger Star Wars galaxy, we've been covering it all each week on the podcast and you don't want to miss out on our Andor series finale discussion next week.
00:16:21
Speaker
So join the Rebel Alliance and subscribe to This is the Wayseekers on YouTube so you never miss out on what we're covering. Because rebellions are built on community. Well, one thing that I really loved is that, um I guess this was before, but I had to point it out, the bellhop saying to Cassian, rebellions are built on hope, that callback to Rogue One.
00:16:43
Speaker
I love that. And then he ended up sacrificing his life by tossing that grenade. That character, i really liked him. I immediately knew that he was the same bellhop that Cassian met in the previous arc. and yeah And he knew it was Cassian too.
00:16:58
Speaker
And we we know like a little bit of his backstory there with his dad being part of the first Gorman massacre or what do they call it? The Tarkin. Tarkin massacre. The Tarkin massacre. Right, right, right.
00:17:09
Speaker
And, you know, so it it makes sense that that character would be ready to fight against the Empire and just he puts it all on the line for Cassian. He doesn't even know what he's there for or or anything like that. But he knows that it's against the Empire and that they need any chance they can. As he says, rebellions are built on hope.
00:17:28
Speaker
That hope that whatever Cassian is doing here is for the better of this galaxy, for the better of Gorman. And thank God Cassian was there, because if not, it would have been way worse.
00:17:38
Speaker
Yeah, and I also like the idea of thinking of no no active rebellion is like too small. like Yeah, we saw his big, grand active rebellion with the grenade, but even earlier in the episode, just removing Cassian's name from the check-in list, like that little small active rebellion, yeah.
00:17:57
Speaker
It's just really admirable to watch this happen. 100%. And it's exactly what Nemec said in his manifesto. Every single little thing is one more crack in in the Empire. And eventually it's all just going to bust wide open and come rushing out. And that is what we see, obviously, in A New Hope. And I could not help but think during this arc. I'm like...
00:18:21
Speaker
maybe I need to put on a new hope and and remind myself that this all ends in a good thing here with the Death Star exploding because seeing this happen now, all this tragedy and and trauma happening, Jesus Christ. Star Wars has never been darker, i don't think. No, no. And I had to I was actually thinking to myself, probably because we just saw that George Lucas is at the Met Gala, but I was like, I wonder if he ever expected to see the Empire at this level.
00:18:51
Speaker
um We always like he always made it a point to put the politics in Star Wars and show the Empire as a fascist regime. regime But I wonder if he ever thought that we'd actually get to see them like at their height.
00:19:05
Speaker
which is crazy. We're so used to, ooh, Sith evil force lightning. Like, no, this is just murdering innocent people. um Something I want to talk about too, though, is speaking of the Empire, the Empire side, what Dedra was going through this whole time. Because Homegirl was going through it, and so was Cyril, and they had an intense confrontation.
00:19:28
Speaker
that Even before like everything started, and then everything that fell out after. Right. It was intense. And it was, the Cyril was so Cyril in this episode because it's like, didn't sell yes, because you start to root for him here when he starts to realize everything that's gone wrong. He's being used. It's exactly what we said in the last episode of the podcast. Like,
00:19:50
Speaker
first of all, we're very vindicated here. But then the way he takes it out on Dedra, it's so serial where it's like, oh my god, what are you fucking doing?
Complex Character Arcs and Confrontations
00:20:02
Speaker
Strangling her and everything, and obviously fuck Dedra.
00:20:05
Speaker
But it's still just you know seeing seeing a man strangle a woman especially his significant other i mean it is still domestic violence like it's still yeah him abusing her and yeah he may be justified but that's like the complexity of cyril khan is there's just no good or bad with him like it's just just he's just cyril just fucking crazy Well, and the worst part about it, too, is like knowing with dead or even just her trauma back to Ferrix.
00:20:34
Speaker
Oh, yeah. When he starts like assaulting her, she completely shuts down. All her power is gone in that moment. And it's like so scary to see. And once again, that's another real life thing that happens.
00:20:48
Speaker
Mentioning domestic violence like that's literally what it was. It was just so uncomfortable. But that's another thing that we have to confront. It's a thing that's real. Yes, 100%. I mean, think about what's going on in her head when, like you said, the trauma that she experienced on Farrix, the you know trauma she deserved, but trauma nonetheless that she probably has PTSD from.
00:21:08
Speaker
The one man that saved her is now inflicting that same violence on her. Just crazy. And you can almost see Dedra like... realizing as well, like, oh, wow, this is kind of too far. Like, Cyril starts asking these questions, and does she even really know the answer? I mean, she knows, obviously, more than Cyril does about what the mission is, but...
00:21:33
Speaker
I don't even think Deidre knows about the Death Star. Like she doesn't really know the bigger picture at all. It's just at the end of the day, the same thing as Cyril, where the mindset is for the betterment of the empire.
00:21:47
Speaker
The empire is in the right, no matter what. They're very loyal to the empire. And I thought she was going to get out of that at the end and realize like she made a horrible decision, but it seems like she is just like, well, this is my life.
00:22:00
Speaker
Yep. Yeah. A hundred percent. And with Cyril, you almost kind of forget with this season, how violent he actually was and until you see it all oh come right back.
00:22:11
Speaker
You know, i almost forgot that he had that inside him. Cause when I confront Cassian, Him and Kazian's fight, very brutal, very insane. And, you know, it's such a Star Wars thing to do to, like, focus on this big battle or, like, um don't even know if you can call the Gorman Massacre a battle. Let's call it a massacre, a genocide. That's what it was.
00:22:32
Speaker
um but then focusing in on just two characters that are a part of it. Like that intimate fight. Exactly. Empire Strikes Back, seeing the Empire and Rebellion fight, and then focusing in on Luke versus Vader. That's what we see here.
00:22:46
Speaker
These two characters crossing paths that you know we've we followed them separately. We followed Cyril and his obsession with Cassian Andor. And that's why that line of Cassian being like,
00:22:59
Speaker
who are you like you just you feel that within cyril and part of me wonders if when he heard that he realized like his obsession was insane that the empire has caused him to be so obsessive and that's why he lowers his gun like was there a possibility where he was you know going to be like Oh, you're right. You know, fuck this. Let me join the empire or the rebellion, leave the empire, but it's too late. He's dead. His actions, you know, have caused him to be dead at this point. And so there is no future for his character, no matter what.
00:23:35
Speaker
I think in that moment, Cyril does kind of question, like, why am I doing this? Why am I here? He kind of remembers everything that's going on. But like we said, it's too late.
00:23:46
Speaker
He's in too deep. And he's got the gun in his hand. Cassian is defenseless. And honestly, it wasn't even for me like a moment of, oh, I know Cassian survives a rogue one. It was like, oh, my God, remember Cassian survives a rogue one. Like, he's going to be OK.
00:24:00
Speaker
Like having to remind myself because I'm like, he might die in this moment. um but i love that rylan's was the one to get the final blow get his just desserts on cyril
Key Themes: Destiny, Force Mysticism, and Tragedy
00:24:12
Speaker
especially after cyril was shoving that old man up against a concrete wall yeah and he's a he's like a dressmaker he's not a big guy got two fucking twinks fighting each other except one's like 55 and cyril's like maybe 35 um um like girls strong though yes he's a light price lightweight category like but he can beat your fucking ass clearly i was like oh him doing choreo fight choreography him and cassian they they they might as well have went 12 rounds like jesus honestly and they're both kind of lightweights which is right so hilarious because cassian he's toned i feel like he's got a little more muscle but i'm like they're not big guys but they were shoving the fuck out of each other i guess when your adrenaline's running they say you could pick up a car so
00:24:58
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. I really did like their fight, though. It felt very brutal and real. And you know fighting in Star Wars, it's not anything new. But Andor takes things from Star Wars and makes it raw, like you said. like Actually, let's go back to the beginning here because we kind of skipped over this moment of Cassian and the healer where Cassian is pulled by this healer that he basically...
00:25:22
Speaker
has a purpose, that he's a messenger of sorts with a destiny. And that is such an interesting, you know, scene for us as the viewers that know what happens in Rogue One because it kind of like canonizes the, you know, how would you call it? the The way we're watching this, knowing his fate, it like canonizes the fact that, you know, we know, I'm trying so hard to figure out how to word this, like,
00:25:51
Speaker
I feel like it's a it's almost like the Jedi have it a chosen one who's going to bring balance. He's like the Rebellion's chosen one.
00:26:02
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, 100%. But it like what what I'm saying is we, as the viewers, know Cassian's destiny, and it's like kind of canonizing that way of watching it, where it's like or it's like a meta reference, I guess, to the fact that we know Cassian's destiny.
00:26:17
Speaker
Someone being like, you do have a destiny, and you are a messenger, which we know like he is the one that ends up delivering the Death Star plan. So he is essentially a you know messenger, which I thought was so interesting. And Andor never touches on the Force. so Yeah. On it?
00:26:35
Speaker
it on it It's so funny because, you know, I love the fantasy. But watching this lady, I was like, this is kind of goofy. I'm very surprised that Tony Gilroy has this goofy force healer lady in here trying to be like, oh, you're a messenger.
00:26:48
Speaker
It's like if it was very bizarre. And I was curious as to where it was kind of going. Um, but, but I agree. i love the fact that she's like, you're a harbinger. You're going to like bring forth some great thing. Like you're goingnna you're going to, going provide a message and and it's not, if we think about it, like it's not just to someone it's like to the galaxy.
00:27:11
Speaker
Right. The rebellion can succeed. The empire can be stopped. Like, so, I mean, I think she was right. Yeah. Despite what Marva thought she wasn't in the force healers.
00:27:24
Speaker
um And despite Cassian force healer lady was right. Yeah. We have Mon Mothma at home. Yeah. A hundred percent. I thought it was just a really, a really cool way to incorporate the force into this story um because it makes sense that like Cassian is a denier of sorts. And yeah, it's always interesting for us as the viewers to see that because we see Luke versus Vader. We see, you know, Anakin fall to the dark side in this huge, like cosmic feeling way.
00:27:54
Speaker
So it is, it is interesting to see it on a smaller scale in this story. And I really liked the way they incorporated it. It felt very natural and raw. And I couldn't help but think of um my, one of my favorite characters after tales of the empire, Barriss off V, who's now a healer, a force healer, you know,
00:28:13
Speaker
Well, I thought of Ventress in the Bad Batch being a harbinger of some kind of news. So, shout out Tails. She's not a healer, though. She's she's not a healer. but She is not, but, you know, Force users just unlock powers now, so she could be in the future. Who knows if they need her to be. 100%.
00:28:32
Speaker
ah hundred um But yeah, it was also another cool way to kind of highlight Bix's decision or foreshadow Bix's decision in the end. There's kind of a lot of different things in these episodes that lead to Bix's decision, like her conversation with Vel. And then this moment, you know, kind of learning Cassian has a purpose. And I know the healer says to her, maybe you're that purpose that he needs, but it's so clear that she's not, unfortunately. Like that's the tragedy of the whole thing is we know how it ends. We know that the, you know,
00:29:04
Speaker
them living a life together will never happen. And that's tragic. I mean, Bix was his purpose because she had to make, she had to make the decision for them on what was more important in the like current timeframe.
00:29:20
Speaker
So I think she still kind of was the purpose, just not in the way that she may have thought at the time. She definitely had some time to think about it while Cassian was gone. But yeah, but that was like explains it as like,
00:29:33
Speaker
there's a place he needs to be and maybe that place is with you, but like, that's not. But maybe, yeah, that's true. It might be with you, but that doesn't necessarily mean right now.
00:29:45
Speaker
Right, exactly. And that's, that's again, the tragedy of the whole thing. Star Wars in their tragedy in the same week too, because we obviously know that Ventress is, is no longer able to be in contact with Quinlan Vos, her heart's desire. Don't get me started.
00:30:02
Speaker
don't get me started in their forbidden love stories very tragic ah like well yeah let's not forget on top of the gorman massacre yeah we had a lot of love tragedy this week too um yeah the the force lady was kind of odd but i feel like i need to go back and re-watch those parts because i think it took me out a little bit and i was just like what what are we doing why do we have this force lady here Right, exactly. It was bizarre, but maybe we'll see maybe we'll see something else play into that in the finale arc, because i think it'd be nice to see kind of a follow-up of that. Like, maybe Cassian turns around and decides to go to this lady in the future for something before, obviously, Rogue One.
00:30:49
Speaker
I mean, maybe, but I feel like the fulfillment of that scene has already come. By knowing Cassian's fate in the end, she's correct. She's right. And I feel like, at least for me, that's really the only follow-up I need, is that she was correct in the end.
00:31:06
Speaker
I mean, I agree. That's true. I just think it'd be nice to see him be more open to it. True, but he is still skeptical of the whole force thing in Rogue One when he sees Shear at Emwe.
00:31:19
Speaker
Yeah, true. Sorry to kill your hopes and dreams. I've got a new hope. Right, but speaking of killing hopes and dreams, let's get back to the end of this Gorman massacre.
00:31:31
Speaker
That was a dark way to transition and into that. I didn't know I had that in me. but I can't remember. What's Wilman's new girlfriend's name? Do you remember? No, I don't.
00:31:42
Speaker
I'm the name person. I don't know why I asked you. oh i should have that in my notes. But her speech at the end, as she's on the comms, just like calling out for help was so emotional.
00:31:55
Speaker
And i really loved the lines. the Empire built this fire. They made this fire and led us to the slaughter. Now they expect us to die without knowing why. And I think of so many different people who have been killed or slaughtered or genocided or massacred.
00:32:14
Speaker
And they had they didn't even know why. and maybe they weren't even a part of any of the reason the reason, quote unquote, why. they're not killed anyway. and The Gorman people had no control over the fact that they have this valuable rock cow kite in the core of their
Narrative Closure and Character Futures
00:32:30
Speaker
planet. like That they don't even utilize. They just want to make their dresses.
00:32:34
Speaker
Exactly. Or clothes. That's the tragedy of it all. Just the the community vibes of everything that we've been following these last five episodes. And then they were singing the song. And i was like, oh, I can't handle this. And then boom, just pow, pow, pow. Yeah.
00:32:50
Speaker
fuck but i really did like that that you know that scene at the end there with the whole radio station and i was a little worried because obviously at the end of whatever she's saying um there's it blows up you hear it over the yeah intercom and you hear the attack which leads to like a leg injury yeah i was scared that That was it. That's the Wilman's death. And with the way Andor has been going, I was like, we're not going to get an official confirmation that he died. Like that was the confirmation.
00:33:22
Speaker
So and the thing is, you him again clearly there's more to his story, though, because he's not in Rogue One. So that could have been his death. No problem. But he makes it to Yavin.
00:33:33
Speaker
I really thought he was dead. When he said he had to go back for her, I was like, stupid mistake. You're dead. Bye. Right. And is it is, it's tragic, but you know, interesting how even after all this heartbreak he's went through losing his dad, losing his, you know, last girlfriend or, you know, romantic interest and now still going back for her. The trauma, the trauma.
00:33:57
Speaker
He can go back for the last one. Exactly. But it doesn't like all this doesn't change who he is as a person. Like he's still hopeful. He's still, you know, going to go back and and try to save these people instead of, you know, adopting the mindset that Bix has, which I don't think is necessarily like a bad thing. But Bix has that mindset of like,
00:34:17
Speaker
we're probably going to lose everything and we can't control losing everything so you know just like she made the decision in the end to never see cassie and like she's kind of come to terms that that was going to happen i feel like willman still has that like young he's a fighter yes exactly fighter yes exactly It's very interesting seeing the different perspectives of rebellion and rebellious characters.
00:34:41
Speaker
Speaking of after that mission, or even after that mission, Cassian's like, this is it. I'm done. This is my last act for the rebellion. i can't do this anymore.
00:34:52
Speaker
yeah And, I was surprised even going into episode nine that he was still, even after the Gorman massacre, what he survived that so many other people did not, what he saw, the atrocities.
00:35:08
Speaker
He's still like, yep, not for me anymore. Can't do this. I've done enough. Yeah. Like I was ah like, sir, right after episode eight, I wrote in my notes. i was like, this is clearly what's going to push Cassie to be the leader. He needs to be.
00:35:23
Speaker
no And then, And clay Clay even calls that out like, seriously, dude? After everything? like she's Like, everything you've seen, you'd think that you'd be the number one fighter? I'm pretty sure she says something to the effect of like, oh what would you say to the Gorman senator who, like, has to now deal with this?
00:35:40
Speaker
Think about the Gorman people. They don't have a choice. Yeah. And it's interesting that the the thing that really made Cassian the leader he is, is having nothing else but the rebellion.
00:35:52
Speaker
Because once Bix leaves him, that's it. ah Well, yeah he finds a new companion, but we'll get to him later. i he finds a new oh you're talking about k2so yeah but i thought you're talking about jen i was like i don't think that that my name is not my name is not k crystal kyber i do not i'd be very interested to see how jen cassian shipper is interpreting this season of andor they're happy they're loving it they said peace out I've been seeing, I mean, I guess, but at the same time, it kind of, you know, recontextualizes everything to the point where I feel like when we get to Rogue One and Cassian is like lovey-dovey with Jyn, he's probably imagining it's Bix.
00:36:41
Speaker
That's the true love of his life. It's the tragedy of Han and Kira all over again. Very true. Very true. it you know, that it has to end. Yeah. I wonder what going happen is is, you know, is that the end of Bix there? Are we going to see her die? um Because i I almost feel like...
00:37:01
Speaker
cassian because Cassian accepts his death in Rogue One. And the way Andor's been going, I was like, okay, Bix is going to die, and then he's going to kind of find peace in dying by being like, I get to reunite with Bix.
00:37:16
Speaker
But if Bix doesn't die... yeah and it makes it so sad that she's like we'll find each other when this is over yeah and death yeah so but we don't know like is bix going to come back is that the end of her we don't know we really don't surprise bix is in one of the ships in the rise of skywalker ah she's in the quad jumper That's sad, though. I want her to reunite with with Cassian. Well, don't want her to die, but like this This is the complex issues of of knowing the end.
00:37:48
Speaker
And the complexity of Andor's series. Nobody gets to be happy. Yeah, 100%. But I think we should move into the Mon Mothma side of things here with episode
Mon Mothma's Leadership and Rebellion Strategies
00:37:58
Speaker
9. Ooh, like... bo like Very, very intense. And I'm glad that we kind of got to see this final episode um after the whole Gorman massacre because it still felt like a win at the end. You know, Mon Mothma gets to escape and we know that that leads to her leading the rebellion on Yavin.
00:38:18
Speaker
And it wasn't without peril either or like tense moments like I was scared for my girl. Yeah, exactly. And that's what's so great about Andor is even knowing these characters fate.
00:38:30
Speaker
It never takes away the intensity. It never takes away the adrenaline of, oh, my God, like what's going to happen to Mon Mothma here? You know, exactly. Well, and the worst part about it, I know I keep bringing up Mask of Fear in all these episodes, but like.
00:38:45
Speaker
It confirms she takes anxiety medicine and and it confirms that she has like horrible trauma from her first arrest just post like order 66 delegation of 2000. So the thought of this woman putting everything on the line yeah and then having to flee the Capitol and go into hiding in a safe house.
00:39:06
Speaker
Like she doesn't even know where she's going to go. She's just like, hopefully somebody can get me somewhere where I'll be okay. On top of the fact that like, If she gets arrested, she will be tortured again and probably way worse than the first time.
00:39:19
Speaker
And everything is out. Probably killed, too, because you know they're not going to want Mon Mothma out there ever again. They'll kill her after they get all the information they need from her.
00:39:32
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. Everything was on the line. And this happens a few times in this season of Andor where it's like everything that has gotten them to this point could just be null.
00:39:44
Speaker
If it doesn't work out, this one small thing, if they do not get Mon Mothma out of the Senate building, it's all over. It doesn't matter. oh I just hear in my head Luthan's monologue in season one of them just going, everything!
00:40:00
Speaker
And i mean, he that his monologue here has definitely shown, like, when he when he says um he's forced to use the tools of his enemy, the way he kind of has to weaponize Mon's fear of him, like, when Mon Mothma's like, I'm more scared of you than anything, instead of stepping back and being like, oh, I'm scary, he has to be like,
00:40:22
Speaker
The code name is I have friends everywhere. Like he weaponizes her fear against her. And obviously it has to happen. It's like, ah you know, otherwise Mon Waffle would not have listened to him and, and you know, um gone his way. But it's just he's he's forced to use the tools of his enemy.
00:40:43
Speaker
so i want to take it back to the beginning to the conversation between mon and bale prior to like the speech right bale says mon's like we both have to go together i have to say the speech and then we got to go he's like i have to sit here and stall they played the same music behind them that they played from the previous arc when rylands was talking about the tarkin massacre something about that piece makes me emotional.
00:41:10
Speaker
I started crying at Mon and Bale, standing outside, trying to plan like what they're going to do. i I've, I ride hard for this woman. Yeah. I don't know what it is. And I was like, Benjamin Brat is Bail Organa now.
00:41:23
Speaker
And i accept him and I'm really sad that he has to stay. Yeah. But what did you think about Bail having to like stay behind? I mean, obviously we'll see him in a year in Yavin cause it'll be literally in a week, but yeah,
00:41:35
Speaker
I mean, it's something I didn't even really consider. But when you think about his role um in Rogue One and even his role off screen in A New Hope, like he still has to be the the king of Alderaan. Like he still has to, you know, keep up his public image.
00:41:52
Speaker
yeah King consort. King consort of Alderaan. um You know, he still has to keep up this public image of being a senator a senator, an imperial senator. Like Mon Mothma says, like, you'll be a puppet, basically, for the empire going forward if you do this. um Because that's the thing, too, is he was the one that passed the mic to her.
00:42:13
Speaker
So regardless, I'm sure that he is under scrutiny well. I thought about that. And I mean, we even see it play out because they replaced one of his, you know, aides with a freaking ISB person, an ISB agent.
00:42:28
Speaker
Can we talk about that? They were trying to I was like, are they trying to assassinate Mon? Like, right. They were 100 percent. That was stressing me out. And when I saw that lady come on the screen, I was like, I've seen this lady before and I don't like her. Why not?
00:42:41
Speaker
Because in the trailers, there was the shot of her like pointing the gun around. And I was like, I was. And then it clicked in my head. I was like, oh, God, she's going to have the gun. i was surprised that she made a big scene in that moment of right i thought that she was just gonna try to get mon there and then a big fight would break out in the actual gate nine but and you know what not her plan that was supposedly from our good friend lonnie in the isb what was that all about lonnie
00:43:13
Speaker
I didn't even realize that we didn't even see Lonnie. I thought that he was going to, I'm sure in the next arc or something, he'll have a big moment. but But they know, but they said that that lady that was going to kill Mon was like from um Lieutenant Young's council or whatever, something.
00:43:32
Speaker
So Lonnie somehow was involved with her being there, which I thought was a little bizarre. Well, was he involved with her being there or does she just work under him, which like he's still technically an imperial.
00:43:46
Speaker
Okay. Even though he's not a real imperial, he still has people working under
Unresolved Tensions and Real-World Parallels
00:43:51
Speaker
him. Real. I guess that's true or an operative. Maybe that's the word that they use. So yeah. Okay. I'll allow it.
00:43:58
Speaker
Yeah. I doubt that after everything, Lonnie's now betrayed the empire or the rebellion. Yeah. Yeah, especially the way he was cutting up with Deirdre's ex-twink guy last week. They were throwing back shots and shit.
00:44:12
Speaker
They're having a good old time. Speaking of people from the past, we got Justice for Tay, which i felt very ah validated, especially after we brought up last week. We were like, what happened to him? We thought mom was going to say something. She never did.
00:44:25
Speaker
She brought it up this week. But I almost... i am Am I crazy to say or am I um selfish to say it wasn't enough? I mean, obviously we got the confirmation that he died, but I needed i needed her to be upset at Luthen for that.
00:44:43
Speaker
You know what that reminds me of? What? When she smashed that listening device in her office. I was like, I have never seen this woman so angry or violent. Literally, I was like, oh, like the way she bam.
00:44:57
Speaker
i was like, man is pissed. She was pissed. Her adrenaline was pumping and her anxiety. She's probably having an anxiety attack given that speech. But she seems so strong throughout all of it. That speech was powerful. And just I loved seeing the Empire trying to shut it down. And those two um people stopping the guy from shutting it down. And yeah the Empire panicking during her speech.
00:45:21
Speaker
I love it because everything she said 100% accurate. We as the viewer know that. And I hope... that i mean obviously we see the entire senate you know erupt in and just anger but i'm hoping that there was at least a few pods out there that were like she's saying well we're all thinking and i thought to myself i know senator chuchi is somewhere smile in her pod um I think my favorite lines from the speech was the difference between what is said and what is known to be true has become an abyss of all the things at risk.
00:45:57
Speaker
The loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous. The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil. Yeah. Very never. Truer words have not been spoken. I wish we had more people speaking them in our galaxy. Yeah.
00:46:11
Speaker
A hundred percent. A hundred percent. the The courage of actually calling the Gorman massacre a genocide. i mean, it's something that we I don't think has any Democratic um senator or House representative come out and say that the the um conflict in the Middle East, as they like to put it, is actually a genocide of the Palestinian people.
00:46:34
Speaker
i don't think one has. No, but they do love to say that Israel has the right to defend itself. From what? exactly All the people they've killed? Exactly. I saw this hilarious interview, or just a piece of it, where this person was interviewing Tony Gilroy, the writer and creator of Andor, and basically was like, I feel like Mon Mothma is a great parallel Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House.
00:47:00
Speaker
And Tony Gilroy was like, She was absolutely not on my mind when when I was writing Senator Mon Mothma, who actually put shit into action.
00:47:12
Speaker
and puts her life on the line. Yeah. Mon Mothma is stronger than any U.S. senator. I know. I'm like, Genevieve O'Reilly, um i need you to put on one of those dresses and come over to the U.S. and give that speech at a rally, please. Literally.
00:47:29
Speaker
I'll bleed, like, vote Mon Mothma. And I did like that the speech, it was very focused on kind of like what you brought up in those lines there, the death of truth and how, you know, with their...
00:47:43
Speaker
with nobody in the galaxy really knowing the actual truth of what happened. There's so many different stories of what took place on Gorman. There's just chaos. It's just, you know, the death of truth makes it, it all gone. i almost think, but I felt almost thought about the fact that like,
00:48:01
Speaker
What Mon Mothma did, I actually don't think could happen in the U.S. s Because if a senator came and and said to you know the entire House of Representatives in a big speech that everybody in America was watching that the genocide and Gaza is a genocide, it but how much would that actually do? Because I feel like the death of truth is so bad in America that people would just turn around and be like,
00:48:29
Speaker
she's lying okay they do it every they do it every day exactly the news does it every day so the death of truth it's like almost i don't want to say it's at a point of no return in america but it's it's bad it's no but i'd i'd love to see the radical left to be a little more on the radical side yeah that phrase that gets thrown around so much oh my god yeah But Andor has all these connections to real world world politics and parallels that I think are important to talk about. But I want to move into something a little more fun here. Connections to my favorite Star Wars TV show, Star Wars Rebels.
00:49:10
Speaker
Yeah. The way that they interwove the whole season three story with Mon Mothma into this. Yeah. was so good so intricately detailed like oh i loved it so basically they explained that she'd be taken to yavin by gold squad squadron in a way to rewrite the story so that it looked like an organized rebel force actually took mon mothma in so people would be like oh they're organized like they got shit going on here And I loved that because it's just it's just what Tony Groy has been doing this entire time with the canon of Star Wars is just writing it into things.
00:49:50
Speaker
You know, he could have easily been like, eh, what happens? There's not really canon. He could have pulled a Dave Filoni on Dave Filoni and been like. yeah ah you the speech Mon Mothma gave is nowhere near as powerful as the ones that I'm going to write for her but no instead they put more focus on her Imperial Senate speech instead of her more galactic wide speech that we see in Rebels and literally gave an excuse for someone else to be bringing her to Yavin so good so good I love Rebels and you know it is funny though like you have to the you know
00:50:27
Speaker
Season three of Rebels and the third arc of season two of Andor, they go hand in hand. But like one of them has a really graphic genocide going on. And then the other is like, you know, this cartoonish animation flying flying through a nebula. Yeah.
Canon Alignment and Character Transformations
00:50:46
Speaker
flying through a nebula and mon mothma and an astromech have to unhook their ship from another one like it's so funny i was like mon was going through it she even was like got some scissors and cut her hair on the way there she was like i need to change yeah um her assistant um what's his name erskine erskine yeah he has to change into a whole you know rebel get up yeah helmet and all so Something happened off screen there.
00:51:14
Speaker
But I think that because when Mon Mothma like drops the blue, yeah that was a really cool moment of like, okay, she's like going to become the the fully dressed in white Mon Mothma that we've seen so far.
00:51:28
Speaker
You know, very symbolic moment. The blue coat, as we've kind of come to see, that's like her Senate coat. Like not only was she shedding... the coat like but yeah but she was shedding that part of her life she's we know she resigns from the senate like and announces it to the galaxy not like they would have had her back if she wanted to be right but she's like i've resigned and i'm here to let you know i'm gonna uh fight on the front lines like with you i'm stepping out into the galaxy and i love those tie-ins as well just even like the gold squadron name drop i was like oh yeah
00:52:02
Speaker
I could not help but wonder where Perrin fits into this entire equation. Does he know about everything? Did he know beforehand? Did he find out from watching on TV?
00:52:13
Speaker
Like, oh, guess that's the end of her Well, like if Perrin watches the news, sure. But it's the way they made it seem. It seems that Mon stayed in the Senate building or like in her Senate office, like all night.
00:52:27
Speaker
So she never went home. So I don't know what Perrin was doing, but I'd love to love to know what his reaction was. And I'm curious if we're even going to see Mon in this last arc mention anything about her daughter or her husband. Yeah.
00:52:44
Speaker
Because she had no problem ditching them. yeah i think it's just that's it for them yeah i think so too contact and honestly good for her yeah and it works better than her like saying goodbye because like at the end of the day they're probably like the empire is probably immediately going to go to perrin to question oh for sure but he's got so many friends i'm sure he'll be fine Yeah, 100%. And it's way better for him to not know where she went, you know, because they are going to question him, so...
00:53:19
Speaker
Yeah, that's so true. um I'm glad this arc, though, ended on a happy note. Yeah, birth of K2. Yeah, birth of K2SO.
00:53:29
Speaker
I was interested in the way they went about it um with, you know, Sam crashing into the K2 unit. And no, no, Sam, that does not absolve you of your crimes of killing Sinta.
00:53:43
Speaker
and i don't know right just because you saved cassian from getting crushed by a kx droid but yeah and at first i was like why does cassian want that droid then i was like oh it's an experimental like imperial thing like there's probably intel on it that makes sense that he'd want to grab it yeah i was like that's gonna be k2so it's the droid he's grabbing for some random reason Yeah.
00:54:09
Speaker
Well, also, like, I'm sure in his mind, he was like, we'll repurpose it because that is something the rebels do. I mean, think of like, yeah, they have to yeah think of like Sabine's painted TIE fighter that she uses. Like, they got to use the weapons of their enemy, sometimes literally instead of figuratively. Yeah. I was going to say, who knew Luthan Rail was still going strong all those years for the rebellion?
00:54:32
Speaker
You know that scene in the trailer of him like in front of like a coffee pot or something looking all sad and depressed? It's just such like a quick little scene. I'm like, are we going to see him just like alone on Coruscant watching the news now? Because like in this last arc, like what is he going to be doing?
00:54:48
Speaker
Because it doesn't seem like he's going to die either. Because there's another shot in one of the trailers of Clea and Cassian in the safe house apartment on Coruscant. And she's like tearing into him or something. That's true.
00:55:03
Speaker
That's something that I wanted to mention with this arc is this almost felt like the finale of Andor in a way where like... I really don't know what's going to happen with the next arc. Like, I feel like all the things we've been expecting happened in this episode. I mean, the end of Cyril and Dejra's relationship. Obviously, the Gorman massacre took place. They're now on Yavin. Mon's speech.
00:55:27
Speaker
Yeah. Like... The way Andor goes, like, they're not just going to have the next arc be like this overarching of, like, the Rebel Alliance coming together. Like, there's going to still be, like, a core story, like these last arcs have been.
00:55:41
Speaker
But what is that core story going to be? Oh, well, we're going to see K2SO smack that Imperial off that bridge. Oh, yeah. True. So we'll see that. god I was thinking about this while we were getting ready. I was like, what the fuck are they going to talk about? Like, what are we going to do next? Because then i was like, but Clea also has to realize they're building a weapon.
00:56:01
Speaker
Oh, yeah. So so what we're going to find out that the Empire is building some kind of weapon. And we know it's going to lead to Rogue One. Yeah. Like, they've... I remember Tony Gilroy saying before even Season 1 came out that...
00:56:16
Speaker
he knew what the last shot of andor would always be and that you know it's going to be something crazy and oh my god we're already gonna fucking see it next week god how does this show end i know honestly this whole like avalanche of celebration andor tales may the 4th i'm like revenge i'm gonna need a big yeah i'm gonna need vacation Yeah, I think we may need to start discussing a Wayseeker summer break or something. Oh my god, this has been an ah an intense time to be a Star Wars fan. 100%, 100%.
00:56:53
Speaker
ah hundred percent a hundred percent But... Andor has been great. This arc, it's just like I said earlier in the episode, it was just everything that's happened so far coming to fruition. All of season one, all of season two so far. Like I feel like it's we're here now. Like we've arrived at our destination. where One could say we're definitely in our Andor era.
00:57:17
Speaker
Yes, exactly. And I think on that note, Scotty, if we have nothing else to say, why don't you send us out of here until next week, the finale of Andor. Well, make sure you follow us on social media so you don't miss any of our Andor content, especially for the finale.
00:57:33
Speaker
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