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The KEY to GOOD Star Wars (George Lucas Says So)

S2 E11 ยท This is the Wayseekers: A Star Wars Podcast
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The key to Star Wars is very simple... and yet, Disney has failed to make good Star Wars throughout it's various projects. From the Star Wars Sequels, to Obi-Wan Kenobi, The Mandalorian, Ahsoka etc... there have only been a few good projects, and they all have something in common...

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Disney's Struggle with Star Wars Magic

00:00:00
Speaker
As we know Disney has released so many projects since they acquired Lucasfilm over a decade ago and for the most part they've struggled to live up to the quality and the magic that the original Star Wars films were. Yeah it seems like nowadays everything that they put out like it just feels impossible to make a good Star Wars project.
00:00:19
Speaker
Exactly, which it's so weird because it almost feels like the key to making a good Star Wars project is right in front of their faces. It's something that the best Star Wars projects that they've made all have in common. And it's even something that George Lucas himself has laid out for them. Oh, well, then go ahead and lay it on us. Also, Dave, John, if you're listening, you should pay attention.

Podcast Introduction and Humor

00:00:48
Speaker
Welcome back to This is the Way Seekers, a podcast for Star Wars fans by Star Wars fans. My name is Austin SWE. I'm joined with my co-host, as always, Scotty Holiday. But also joining us is R2D2 in a Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs jersey, which can only mean one thing. It's Super Bowl Week, which listen, I know nobody cares about that on this podcast.
00:01:14
Speaker
Scottie, as the resident football fan of This Is The Way seekers, who are you rooting for this year in the Super Bowl? SZA and Kendrick Lamar. Oh, there you go. There you go. Listen, before you all start clicking off, I promise we're not talking about the Super Bowl today. It's funny because every year that the Chiefs go to the Super Bowl and I have this insane excitement and just, you know, as you can see, I have my fucking room decorated. It reminds me of the enjoyment and excitement that I had for Star Wars as a franchise years ago.

Diminished Excitement for Star Wars

00:01:49
Speaker
and how much that's dwindled over the years because of the quality of things, especially with the introduction of Disney Plus and the way the sequel trilogy went. its It's just dwindled my love of Star Wars so much and I find myself looking for that enjoyment and excitement in other things like seeing my Kansas City Chiefs go to the Super Bowl.
00:02:10
Speaker
But I want to have that same excitement again, like when I went to the movie theaters and saw Rogue One and felt like I was at a fucking concert clapping with a bunch of other Star Wars fans as we see this big giant battle of Scarif going on. I miss that so, so, so much, which is why I want to talk about in this episode of the podcast, kind of how the quality has gone with Disney, but also how they can solve this problem. Because I feel like there's a really obvious solution that George Lucas himself has laid out that some of the best Star Wars projects we have all have in common.

Criticism of Rushed Production and Character Development

00:02:47
Speaker
And I want to talk about it today. But first, I think we should talk about the faults of Disney Star Wars.
00:02:53
Speaker
Yeah, and I think one of the biggest ones that I think of when we mentioned the faults is the lack of time. And I don't mean and just I don't mean just like runtime because we all know we've had plenty of episodes where we've all talked about the runtime. It's not our favorite. um But I even mean the time that they put into creating these projects, pre-production, post-production, especially with the special effects and like the VFX artists. I mean, we all saw Skeleton Crew and how amazing it looked.
00:03:23
Speaker
We all saw the Obi-Wan Kenobi series and how that looked. So there's definitely there's definitely things that happen beyond the scenes that we don't know. But one big thing, like I said, is with the VFX stuff, please give people more time. ah Please take more time to put these series together when it comes to writing them.
00:03:41
Speaker
right writers rooms. We've talked about that a lot. We know the Acolyte had one. Yeah, the writing on that still is kind of. So just give these more people, give them time to cook. You know what I mean? Yes, exactly. Exactly. How about more time into the thought behind the series and, you know, before they just go prematurely announce it and then it gets canceled and then they just look ridiculous. Like they never have any Star Wars projects coming out, even though they have an overabundance, probably too many Star Wars projects coming out.
00:04:10
Speaker
It almost feels like they don't because half of their projects still get fucking cancelled somehow. Yeah. And also, like you said, the actual time for production is just insane to me because when The Force Awakens came out and The Last Jedi came out, both movies took three years to make and complete and write and all that.
00:04:28
Speaker
So how is it that something like The Mandalorian Season 2 and The Book of Boba Fett that are four times as long as those movies, why is it that they're being done in one year, their entire production of shooting post-production, writing for their eight hour project?
00:04:47
Speaker
all in one sitting in one year. It's just how how is that even possible? It doesn't make sense, right? No. And the the big thing that always it kind of stresses me out as a fan at this point. And I don't even necessarily like to do this with myself because I know how it goes. You set a date and you say, I'm going to put out like, for example, if we do YouTube, we're going to make this video on this topic and we have to put it out on this date. And, you know, it's smooth sailing and then things happen and then the date's getting closer and closer.
00:05:15
Speaker
And you're like, Oh my God, I'm nowhere near where this needs to be. And then you're making the thumbnail, you know, uh, four i am in the video space about three hours later. Right. So when even with the new movies that they have coming out, like they're setting these dates at 20, what is it 2026, 2027, 2028.
00:05:33
Speaker
whatever they are now because they've already shifted as we've seen. Exactly. It's just like, do we need to set these dates? Because then we as the fans, we're already unfortunately getting used to these projects getting canceled either publicly or privately.
00:05:48
Speaker
And then it's just like, oh, well, that date's coming up and we've seen no trailer. We've heard nothing about this movie, like with the Ray movie, for example, they just it's just got a new writer. Right. like These movies aren't even going to make the dates they originally set. It's like they're shooting themselves in the foot.
00:06:05
Speaker
with these crunching this lack of time. Just give yourself time. That's how you make a good story. Exactly. Because it affects every single department that they have, like you mentioned, the VFX. But another huge part, the writing itself, because I think something else that's been lacking in the modern Disney era of Star Wars is the lack of interesting characters and the lack of character development. Because even when they do introduce an interesting character,
00:06:34
Speaker
We don't really get to see that character go anywhere. There's a few examples that I can think of where there was maybe some good character development. The Mandalorian, for example, with Din Djarin in season one. That is good character development. And it's not just taking a character from one end to the other and not exactly showing how they got to that point. Like Riva from Obi-Wan Kenobi, for example. You can say that over the series she developed, and I would definitely agree with that.
00:07:02
Speaker
but I feel like there's not enough substance to show us why, you know, why did she join Darth Vader and the Inquisitors and what was her motives the entire time. It was very confusing because there just wasn't enough substance put into that story. So then when she is eventually redeemed, it's like, OK, I can see there's something here, but how did we get to this point?
00:07:30
Speaker
Yeah, no, I completely agree. And I think that it's good that we're talking about time and characters back to back because they relate so much to each other because, you know, we see I can see like you just said, I see the point A and the point B. It's how we're getting there. That's not having enough time spent on it. not enough development. And I don't necessarily agree that we don't have interesting characters. I think that they've set up lots of cool archetypes, but we don't get to know anything about them. We don't get to sit with these characters. Right. So then they become uninteresting. I think they have like the skeleton of being a really interesting character, even if it's not visual, even if it's just a plain old human. Like, for example, I loved keeping it with Obi-Wan.
00:08:18
Speaker
I loved Tala Durath played by Indira Varma. Great character. I even felt some um had some emotional moments with her. Right. But. Like she shows up in three episodes and then she's dead. And that's the last the first and the last we've seen of her. And it's just like it leaves us wanting more and it makes those emotional moments not feel as emotional.
00:08:41
Speaker
Right. And we all know the biggest offender of maybe killing off characters too early without letting them develop or do something interesting enough, the acolyte. Yes, it was very shocking to see the murder of Yord and Jackie, but those characters went fucking nowhere after having interesting arcs set up like Yord, for example. I thought that there was like some interesting ties maybe into the type of Jedi that Anakin is, maybe some parallels there. um You know, he was very by the book. I felt like we were really going to see something come of that. And then he's just dead. And I understand that that's part of the shock. But there's just other ways to shock us and and get us more intrigued and involved. It comes down to I want substance over shock. Exactly. And speaking of the acolyte with Jackie,
00:09:40
Speaker
She got some development to her and OSHA kind of started to bond a little bit. We saw parallels between, you know, them both being souls apprentices and things that they may have had in common. And then she gets stabbed three times in the episode after having some killer choreography. But it's just like, girl, where'd you go? like I was just starting to get attached.
00:10:02
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. There's just not enough. And I think another good example to bring up here is Ahsoka in her own series where she has to develop from kind of this these issues that happened off screen in between Rebels and Ahsoka with Sabine and training Sabine as a Jedi and feeling like she's not good enough, like she's going to become Anakin Skywalker, her master.
00:10:30
Speaker
we see this character development with episode five shadow warrior and how she has this like rebirth but there's again just not enough substance to where it's like okay what exactly was her issue and how did she overcome it and how is that leading her life going forward it's just don't it just didn't work out for me don't forget the part where she just we the audience were just informed in this series that she was scared she was going to follow in Anakin's footsteps and then you immediately we have to go to that conflict so you just introduced it and now we're immediately going to deal with it and sometimes that works but for more like philosophical mental traumatic like themes I think you need more time with that plus the fact and I don't want to harp on this but the development that Ahsoka has had as a character up until this point
00:11:20
Speaker
Exactly. And then we're just like, even with the Ahsoka the White thing and her rebirth, baptism, whatever you want to call it, that was also a little bit of the, okay, we knew she was going to become Ahsoka the White and here she is becoming Ahsoka the White, but it's all resolved in like less than 30 minutes. Right. Yeah. And one short ass Disney plus episode that was 25 minutes without credits.

Decline of Fight Choreography

00:11:45
Speaker
Yeah, something that I think is another issue that was one present in Ahsoka, but two very important to you as a prequel kid is the choreography and kind of the downfall of it in the modern era. Oh, tell us about it, Scotty. Oh, my God. OK, I don't hate the sequel trilogy. know I have rewatched it. There are things that I like about it. I definitely think that The Last Jedi is my favorite movie, ah but I think that the choreography and the sequel trilogy is all shit. I know lots of people like to say, oh, it's because they're not. They weren't trained in the temple, blah, blah, blah. Like, but they have the sacred Jedi texts. They had all these things that Luke Skywalker was looking for. Ben was trained in some sort of temple. So why is he sweating his lightsaber like a baseball bat?
00:12:37
Speaker
Right. And then the worst thing about it, too, is, you know, speaking of the prequels, we had the Obi-Wan Kenobi series and people online were literally like, why is Obi-Wan swinging his lightsaber like a baseball bat? And seeing it literally bounce off a stormtroopers. Right. And the fortress inquisitorious. weve We all know the scene that we're talking about. Yes. And it's just like.
00:13:01
Speaker
I don't think it comes down to the actors aren't capable because Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen proved that the actors can become capable exactly of dueling. We saw it when Hayden and Ewan went up against each other at the end of the Obi-Wan Kenobi series.
00:13:17
Speaker
right We saw that there is a good possibility to make good choreography with the acolyte. That was so refreshing. I think that's one of the highlights for the series with me. No, not only did we get a series with more Jedi, but we got killer choreography where lightsabers worked properly. We actually saw the characters seem like they were actually fighting and not just like hitting steps on the floor.
00:13:43
Speaker
And then compare that to the Ahsoka series, where Bailyn gets a pass because he's just like a brute. So the way he moved made sense to me. But when I'm watching Ahsoka, the Ahsoka, I don't know lightsaber forms like that, or else I would point out her lightsaber form.
00:13:59
Speaker
But there's lots of martial arts involved and flips and jumps. And yeah, I know you can do some of that in live action. But when I'm watching Jackie spin around like a windmill with and dual wheeled. And I think to myself, that looks like a soca out of there. They look like fucking a soca. Right. Like I'm watching a scene from the Clone Wars.
00:14:19
Speaker
And then I see Rosario Dawson just like holding her lightsaber like she is literally in A New Hope, Alec Guinness. And I'm just like, oh, girl, there's no wire up your sleeve. You can bang the blades up against each other with some force. I know they want to go for a whole samurai thing, but if I don't see a reverse script from that woman, right? I am going to go insane.
00:14:47
Speaker
Right, yeah it doesn't even feel like Ahsoka and you'd think something like that would be more important to Dave Filoni. Literally. Who's been with the character since like 2003 when they were first coming up with her. Right, exactly. And isn't it his name is Nick Gillard, w right, that did the choreography for the prequels, right?
00:15:07
Speaker
I talked all this shit, I don't know any of these people's names or what their lightsaber forms are, but I'm so sorry. I'm pretty sure his name is Nick Gillard and he's still available to work as a choreographer. I don't see why they didn't get him to come in for like the Obi-Wan Kenobi series, because like you said, we know Ewan and Hayden are very much capable. And I still think even some of the choreography in that show was really bad. I mean, I think of the moments where like Obi-wan's like swinging the lightsaber behind his back and shit and Darth Vader's just in front of them And I'm like what the fuck is going on here the sequel trilogy III disagree with you a little bit just because I think that there are some some you're right right. I'm sorry I'll go back the last Jedi throne rune seen amazing the choreo amazing the rise of Skywalker is the one that's egregious and
00:15:58
Speaker
Yeah. And I mean, the last Jedi one, there's a lot of issues with the throne room fright. The one that I always think of is the Rey and Kylo Ren duel, because yes, it's messy, but kind of that excuse that you brought up before Rey isn't, you know, a trained Jedi. Kylo, you know, he has much more training and I don't think that excuse works for him.
00:16:20
Speaker
But I think he was moving around good, and then the choreography with Rey, she's very much defending herself, blocking herself. I think it looks good, but let me not shit all over the point of talking about the shitty choreography in Star Wars. Well, I'll continue. So even going back to Ahsoka in Shadow Warrior, Hayden's moving in the World Between Worlds. He's doing some stuff. And then Rosario Dawson is just like,
00:16:49
Speaker
hitting his lightsaber every few times to like make it look like she's blocking. And I'm like, this man could literally chop you into pieces right now. Right. And you're like not even really putting up a fight like he's going so easy on you, which was not what they were trying to convey. She's supposed to be fighting for her life because she what does she say? She wants to live who or I choose to live. Oh, Lord. Yeah. have The wonderful dialogue of the Ahsoka series.
00:17:15
Speaker
But I think it's a huge major difference between how they trained Hayden Christensen and the actors in the prequel trilogy. I mean, I'm sure you've seen the behind the scenes documentary of the Phantom Menace and Ewan McGregor, Liam Neeson training with Ray Park, who, mind you, they casted the villain not based on his acting abilities, but based on his stunt performances.
00:17:39
Speaker
Yeah, it's, you know, it it's a night and day difference. You know what I mean? um And I think Star Wars is really known for its fights and how visually pleasing they can be. And I just think that's something that is severely lacking in the Disney era. Yeah. Let's not bring back the phrase, the rematch of the century. Oh, God. Yeah, absolutely not. I'm tired.

Overreliance on Nostalgia vs. Original Storytelling

00:18:02
Speaker
of the nostalgia focused bullshit that Star Wars has become. It's so weird. It started with the Force Awakens where they're like, okay, we have a new Star Wars movie coming out. Let's just reinvent the empire and the rebellion. And now we have the first order and the resistance. They got the same fucking ships. They got the same conflicts going on. The same characters are involved except Luke Skywalker is absent because JJ Abrams didn't know how to write him into the story without overshadowing his precious new characters. Well, don't forget. Don't forget the super weapon, too. Right. got it They got to block the super weapon. The third fucking Death Star. Yeah. And it just started this trend where Star Wars is just nostalgia, nostalgia, nostalgia. I think of the Obi-Wan Kenobi series where the entire fucking show's premise is just like, remember,
00:18:55
Speaker
Even McGregor playing Obi-Wan Kenobi in the 90s when you were a kid. There are at least 2,000s when you were a kid. Like, come on. Like, that is the entire premise of the series. And you only get little glimpses of, like, good ideas there could be. But they're just more focused on the rematch of the century rather than telling a good story about Obi-Wan Kenobi overcoming his depression and the things that he went through in Revenge of the Sith.
00:19:21
Speaker
But, yeah you know, what's the point of that when we can just have a grand old adventure with him following around Princess Leia of all characters? Because, you know, we just need more connections to the original trilogy. But don't forget all the connections, none of the trauma. um Right. Exactly. hey Exactly. Take out the interesting part of like dealing with all the trauma.
00:19:43
Speaker
that they as characters would have. Right. Oh, it's just base level like, oh, well, these characters, you know, got to meet in between the movies. Oh, isn't that so interesting? Look at how we're expanding Star Wars. It's like you're not expanding Star Wars. You're just repackaging the same characters, the same stories.
00:20:03
Speaker
over and over and over again it sucks and don't get me wrong i don't want it to come off at least for me that i don't want to see legacy characters right in shows but i want to see them and kind of like i already mentioned with the sequel trilogy, I want to see them utilized. Yes. um And in a way that makes sense, not just because we can. You know what I mean? Exactly. I 100% agree. And I think that kind of gets into the major point of this episode of the podcast.
00:20:37
Speaker
All these things we talked about, these are criticisms that you usually hear when talking about Star Wars and the strategy seems to just be copy what came before. But the truth of the matter is in order to make a good Star Wars project, you need to do the opposite. You need to be unlike Star Wars and what came before.
00:20:58
Speaker
in what sense? I more just mean that the projects of this new era, the ones that get people talking and the ones that people are interested in what they have to offer, are the ones bringing something new to the table. In fact, I think the two best projects, Skeleton Crew and Andor, at least in my opinion, those are two TV shows that were critiqued during its marketing era for not looking like Star Wars, not being Star Wars enough.
00:21:26
Speaker
before they were released i mean think about it with skeleton crew you have the suburbs you're focusing on kids which you know we usually don't focus on kids in star wars in those trailers it was like okay what the fuck is that this is definitely not star wars but then somehow in the end even though the project was so different and brought in so many things that we don't recognize from the franchise, it was so, so, so Star Wars somehow just in the way that it delivered its messages, in the way that it inspired hope and whimsyness. And it just felt so much like Star Wars. But like I said, it was not like Star Wars.
00:22:08
Speaker
I think it comes down to taking a premise of a show. Exactly. And just putting the Star Wars blanket over it. um And I think that's what a lot of the shows that we like and that we talk about the ones we gravitate towards, that's what they do. And they take the themes of Star Wars versus just saying, look, it's Star Wars, lightsaber, Luke Skywalker. You love this, right? Exactly.
00:22:35
Speaker
And instead, they give us something new and we the themes that are so integral to Star Wars into that project. Right. Absolutely. And like you mentioned before, that's not to say we don't want to see legacy characters again, because there are ways to take characters we know of and characters we've seen before and just make something new out of them. Andor is a great example of that. yeah Andor brought in a much more serious tone to Star Wars than we've seen before. It hyper focused on the political thriller aspect of Star Wars, which isn't something that wasn't in Star Wars before. It just hasn't been at the focus as much as this series was. And then you have characters like Cassian Andor, the titular character who
00:23:25
Speaker
is a character we've obviously seen before in Rogue One, but you know we get to see this new side of him and this new side of his life, Mon Mothma. These characters are not new, but they feel new. You know what I mean? like I yeah feel like I met a new character with Cassie and Andor while still following in line with what I knew from Rogue One, Mon Mothma the same way. We didn't know that she had a family. We didn't know that she you know was literally but is possibly gonna put her daughter on the line to save the rebellion. you know We never got to see those side of things. And it's something so different from Star Wars that it somehow feels so, so, so Star Wars. And Andor was the same way a skeleton crew during the marketing, during the trailers, even during the series release. People were like, it doesn't feel like Star Wars. There's no bricks and screws in Star Wars. I knew that was gonna get brought up at some point.
00:24:19
Speaker
But you you you see the pattern I'm starting to see here where it's like the best projects kind of have these accusations of not being Star Wars enough. And it's something that even George Lucas himself says Star Wars is. It was his biggest criticism of The Force Awakens, which Bob Iger said himself in his autobiography, which, by the way,
00:24:42
Speaker
The shit that Bob Iger admits in his autobiography, I think that that man is an actual Disney villain. um um ah So it makes sense that he's the CEO of Disney. But he says in his book, there's nothing new, George said. In each of the films in the original trilogy, it was important for him to present new worlds, new stories, new characters and new technologies. In this one, he said there wasn't enough visual or technical leaps forward.
00:25:12
Speaker
It's very much anti George Lucas to, you know, make an Obi-Wan Kenobi series and just focus on the fact that you got Ewan McGregor and hated Christensen back. George Lucas wants to see you do something new. And again, falling in line with what we said, George Lucas, he was going to make a sequel trilogy.
00:25:30
Speaker
with Luke, Leia, and Han and all these returning characters but he was going to do something new because that's what George Lucas always did. Disney said they wanted to do something for the fans which sounds all nice and dandy but what they really mean is we're just going to repackage the shit you had before and present it to you as something new. George Lucas still cared about the fans but he understood that His story came first. When the prequels came out, imagine if he never broke the mold of the original trilogy because the prequels are very, very, very, very, very fucking different from the vibe of the original trilogy. And now those things are essential to what Star Wars is. There's so many things from the prequels that people are like, yeah, that is
00:26:13
Speaker
what Star Wars is. That's what I think of when I think of Star Wars. It would have never existed if there was never an opportunity for George Lucas to expand Star Wars in the way that Disney could do if they wanted to.
00:26:26
Speaker
Yeah, well, I think that also echoes back to the issue of they don't take the time to do it. On top of that, we have, like you said, George focused on the story first. And that's kind of what I was just saying about these new Star Wars projects. They have an idea of what they want to tell, and then they either put a Star Wars blanket over it or weave the themes of Star Wars into it. And that's how it becomes becomes quote, you know, Star Wars. Right. Yeah, I 100 percent agree with you. I'm telling you that the key to good Star Wars is bringing something new to the table. I think an interesting case study of this kind of hypothesis we have going on here is the Bad Batch.

Successful Projects: Innovation and Core Themes

00:27:06
Speaker
The Bad Batch started off in season one as an extension of the Clone Wars. It was a cameo of the week type show where every single week it's like, who are we going to see now? Cad Bane and, you know, which clone are we going to see? Is Captain Rex going to be in this episode? It was just still.
00:27:22
Speaker
Don't forget Harrison Dula and Chopper. We've got a little rebels. Exactly. Just the same stuff as we got before. And during that show's run during season one and most of season two, there's a lot of criticism of the show. People are like, what the fuck is this show? Like, it's just a rehash of the Clone Wars. There's no real story here. It's just kind of spectacle over story.
00:27:45
Speaker
But then there was kind of this shift halfway through season two and all of season three, where they started to really focus in on the Bad Batch and how they want to impact the galaxy and focusing on crosshair and Omega and the actual core of what the show is titled after the Bad Batch. Yeah.
00:28:06
Speaker
all of a sudden everyone fucking love that show everyone connected with the show especially during season three i'm pretty sure that there's episodes in there that are some of the highest rated animated episodes in star wars on imdb well you know what's funny with that too is like hearkening back to our conversation last week with the mandalorian Right. the Bad batch did the opposite trajectory of the Mandalorian. Exactly. Whereas, you know, the Mandalorian starts off small and then it expands. And even I said and the universe opened up in season two. It's like the bad batch. The universe is open in season one. It takes all these things we already know about. And then it slowly funnels down and hyper focuses on what, like you said, the core of the story is, which is the bad batch. And we get those character moments. But I think it also
00:28:54
Speaker
I think it worked for the bad batch, clearly, um because they set up the galaxy and then we focus on our characters and how the galaxy is impacting them. Exactly and I'm glad you brought up Mando season one because like you said it kind of followed an opposite structure of what the Bad Batch did where season one was so new and refreshing that it brought in so many new fans. There's literal studies that show that people watched the Mandalorian on Disney Plus and then started watching the other projects or maybe some of the animated projects because they wanted to know more about Mandalorian, Mandalorian culture because
00:29:33
Speaker
They saw this show that was just so new that anybody could watch it even without seeing or watching Star Wars. But would anybody look at you dead in the eye and say that the Mandalorian didn't feel like Star Wars? No. Nobody would ever say that about season one of the show. But it's so different from anything we've got in Star Wars.
00:29:53
Speaker
I think something else to point out in keeping with the Bad Batch and the Mandalorian, obviously in the Bad Batch, it's animation. So it's easier to kind of stick with what George Lucas was saying and give us new visuals, whether it's a new planet, just new places. Like it's easier to do that in animation and the Bad Batch did an amazing job of that. I might even argue that the beginning of the Mandalorian season one to the Mandalorian season three,
00:30:21
Speaker
Definitely a big downgrade in the environments because season one had a lot more visually exciting things. And then we get to season three, which is desert and grassland. yeah and and dull like a torn down dull mandalur um so yeah nothing very interesting there visually how much of mandalur was really there right but i mean they didn't have to make it looking pitch black to where you can't see a single thing that's going on that's true that's true i guess the and the
00:30:52
Speaker
Mandalore is a different topic, though, because Mandalore already was fleshed on animation, so they had cool stuff to go off of, to pull from and expand upon. So Mandalore is a little different, I think.
00:31:06
Speaker
I guess, but they didn't expand it interestingly enough for me. but no well But yeah, to wrap all this in a tight, neat little bow, Star Wars needs to be different. The best projects in the franchise, Skeleton Crew and or the Bad Batch, the Mandalorian season one, are projects that are bringing something new to the table while still speaking the language of Star Wars. And I think that if Disney were to start focusing on more stories like that and hiring more people like John Watts, they will start to see Star Wars rise up so much more in popularity and people will enjoy this franchise so much more than they have been the last decade.
00:31:48
Speaker
I love that. They just need to speak the language of Star Wars. That's such a good way to put it. I'm so mad.

Conclusion and Social Media Reminder

00:31:54
Speaker
I kept saying blanket and you're like, speak the language. Maybe it's because you don't speak the language. That's a motherfucking lie. That is a lie. Well, before we start fighting about it, Scotty, why don't you send us out of here if there's nothing left?
00:32:11
Speaker
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