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What a Mess | Bring Your Mess Home Episode 2 *RE-UPLOAD*
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Introduction and MVF Church Overview
00:00:29
Speaker
right, everyone. Hey, welcome back to our second episode of the Table Talk Recap Podcast. I'm here with Shane Finley. This will be our first episode together. um Just a reminder, if you haven't already, to go ahead and listen to the sermon from this week.
00:00:42
Speaker
It's going to be on the MVF Church Podcast, or you can go on YouTube and type in MVF Church, and it'll come up there. So if you want to watch it in person. um So yeah, Shane, why don't you go ahead and introduce everyone, or introduce yourself to everyone and kind of give us a little background on MVF as a church, you know, and how you guys got it started.
00:00:57
Speaker
Yeah, well, um my name Shane Finley and I'm the pastor of MBF. We started 17 years ago this September um and we are an EFCA church.
00:01:09
Speaker
um But basically we kind of operate as a non-denominational being in Utah where we get people from all walks of life and all spiritual backgrounds. So we focus a lot on the majors and not a lot on the minors. And yeah,
00:01:25
Speaker
We like to say, we planted the church 17 years ago. God's really blessed it. There's a lot growth, especially for Utah. um I have five kids, been married for 35 years, 36 years next week.
00:01:37
Speaker
thirty six years next week um And my five kids range from 31 and married with three kids all the way down to 14 and just starting ninth grade.
00:01:52
Speaker
And so kind of all the stages of life, five grandkids and five kids and a lot of busyness. Awesome. um So cool. So tell me a little bit about this message.
00:02:06
Speaker
So this is, we're in the middle I know it's in the middle of a series, which is not the best place to start a podcast, but I figured it might, you know, might as well just get started with it anyways. um So tell us a bit about the series, what you're doing. And then is there anything from the sermon specifically that you went over that you're like, man, I wish I would have said it differently or anything that you're like, man, I hope if anything they come away with, like if they, if I could pick one thing that they come away with, it would be this thing, this theme. Yeah.
Current Sermon Series: "What a Mess"
00:02:31
Speaker
Okay, yeah, um well, we're in a series called what a mess and we're doing in. ah Conjunction with our mid our summer midweek vbs program where it runs every Wednesday night for 4 weeks.
00:02:48
Speaker
Um, and it's basically what a mess, meaning that we are a mess because we, we have sin and Jesus loves us in the midst of that sin. Um, he shows his grace, um, you know, kind of.
00:02:59
Speaker
Based on the while we are still sinners, Christ died for us. Um. And it's, it's been a good series. I think, you know, um, definitely helps people remind reminds us that.
00:03:14
Speaker
We are all sinners saved by God's grace and we're to have a mindset in the heart of Thanksgiving for what God has done for us. um We're not to you know to judge each other because we're all um in the same boat and um you know and that God loves us in the midst of everything. And so that that's basically what it's been about.
Exploring the Prodigal Son Parable
00:03:37
Speaker
As far as this last week, the the main passage was the prodigal son, the parable the prodigal son in Luke 15, 11 through 32. Um,
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um
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dealing with how the prodigal son, the the the younger son is the son who turns his back on the father and then comes back to him, um kind of representing those of us that have lived the life of sin and then come come to God. And then obviously the father who represents God and his mercy and grace. And then the older son who kind of represents the those that have been involved in their faith and have been walking in faith and kind of the attitude that can we can sometimes get of judgment um rather than grace. And we miss out on the opportunity to kind of have the heart of God for the lost.
00:04:37
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So kind of
Challenges in Sermon Delivery
00:04:38
Speaker
dealing with that. You have to forgive me. I'm kind of hoarse today. um And in 2 Peter 1, 1-4, where Peter, use that to kind of,
00:04:49
Speaker
where peter i use that to kind of bring home the point that the we're all, we all have equal standing in God's eyes and that that's something that we have to, that is really amazing the to think about, you know, because here's Peter,
00:05:10
Speaker
the the apostle who walked on water, who could't could say he was like Jesus' best friend. he preached at Pentecost and yet he addresses the the people in 2 Peter. He says, you know i Peter, a servant and apostle to you who have equal standing with God because of what Jesus did. And just trying to get that idea across it.
00:05:34
Speaker
Can we all have equal standing in God's eyes? So when you ask your question was, was there anything I could, ah I would have said different? And is there anything I want to hit home?
00:05:45
Speaker
Yeah. When it comes to anything I said different every week, there's a thousand things I wish I said different. um Do you struggle with that? is ever Do you second guess yourself a lot with that or do you kind of just let it lie where it lies?
00:05:56
Speaker
I would struggle with that. Well, yeah, I mean, I ah definitely second-guess myself. um And yet, i try and don't want to be so polished that i then I'm not coming off as authentic.
00:06:09
Speaker
So it's a heart it's a hard balance. um You know, because obviously, like today, you could run everything through ChatGPT or whatever and and get everything down exactly. Make this better for me. You know? So...
00:06:22
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you know so So, you know, I always kind of wish like there's things I'm like, oh man, I wish I would have hit that home bed or my biggest concern is sometimes did I say something a little too off the cuff and it it really didn't hit, like maybe it hit people too harsh. I didn't mean to be that harsh or i I didn't cover the whole gamut of it and and there's so many ways to think about you know, that kind of stuff.
00:06:51
Speaker
um But then as far as what I what I really hope people got from it is that part from second Peter that no matter who you are there's no he's a nominal Christian. If you've given your life to Christ, you are ah son or daughter of the king and he he loves it all equally.
00:07:08
Speaker
So. That was a lot. Sorry. Yeah, no, that no, that that was really good. I love that. That was really good. um So yeah, so I just, first of all, that video at the beginning was just hilarious. um that That cracked me up. I had a, I was watching originally, or I was listening originally on the podcast because I wasn't there at church on Sunday and I had to stop it and go to the video because I was like, as soon as that started, I was like, I got to see what this is. That cracked me up. Where did that, was that and just like an old thing? Where did that come from?
00:07:34
Speaker
Yeah, it's a super old, so it's an old, for those who didn't see it, it's an overdubbed um old Jesus movie. So I think the movie is from like the late 60s or something like that. It's super cheesy,
00:07:50
Speaker
um but then they overdubbed in kind of a comedic way. And it's a church called Vintage. I think they're in the Seattle area. Mm-hmm.
00:08:02
Speaker
And they did it. I found that over 20 years ago when I was a youth pastor and I used and there's a series of four of them. And I use all four of them to do a series on our misconceptions about Jesus when I was a youth pastor.
00:08:16
Speaker
And I've literally been waiting, looking for opportunities to use it. So funny. And that was that was the opportunity. It was good. It cracked me up. It was it was funny. Cool. So I wrote some questions down just from the sermon that I had, or at least like thoughts and prompts, I guess, to kind of go through.
Grace Over Merit in Christianity
00:08:31
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um The first was was just, you know, I think you talked about you know you talked about the prodigal son and we went through that. um i kind of want to just jump right into like the older brother. So this is the question I had. So for those of us who've been Christians a long time and fallen and following Jesus,
00:08:45
Speaker
How do we keep our hearts from being bitter towards those that are new believers and not having that older brother syndrome? You know, that that thought of, I've been a Christian for so long, so why don't get i why don't I get more rewards or praise for my obedience?
00:08:57
Speaker
Kind of that like the anger at other people coming into the kingdom. And then, you know, I also noticed the parallel between this parable and the parable of the wages, where kind of the same thing. You have those guys that were working...
00:09:09
Speaker
you know, for the whole day, they get paid the same as the guys that only worked for, you know, the last couple hours a day. And then they come to the, the owner or whatever, the person they're working for and they're upset. And, you know, it's kind of like that same, kind of like that same thing of the older brother. Like, why don't I get more reward for being a better person? How can it be the same as that, you know, the younger brother coming back, he squandered all your wealth. You know, what do we do to not be like the older brother?
00:09:34
Speaker
Yeah, that's, that's a tough question because, um, I mean, really the only in my mind, the only thing that can really keep us from being like that, I believe is seeking to have the heart of Christ.
00:09:49
Speaker
um You know, if I just try to be better at that, um that honestly sometimes just makes me even more bitter because I'm like, I'm working on something and I feel like I'm working on something. So think, I think,
00:10:08
Speaker
You know, as as Christians, yeah it's a natural thing in our culture, not just as Christians, but in our culture to be performance oriented. Right. um And we, we,
00:10:22
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base a lot of what we do on merit. And so it's when we see people come to the church and or or come to faith and they are just automatically accepted. I think there's a part of us that we love that. we we we All want to see it and yet then there's times where we get.
00:10:44
Speaker
Um, like said, judgmental about it and I think the only way to overcome that is to seek to to really just continue to to desire to have the heart of Christ and and not.
00:10:57
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get caught up in ourselves. And remember, it's not about us. It's about what Jesus did. It's about who he is. um And always going and coming back to that, I am saved by grace. there's i'm I am not a a better person. I'm not a good person. um um I'm saved by grace. so That's really good.
00:11:16
Speaker
that's That's perfect. That was a great answer. um That kind of, it's perfect segue into this next question, which is, Why do we have such a not natural obligation to earn our salvation? and And more importantly, why is it so important for a Christian that it's by grace alone and not by our works? Why is that important?
Welcoming Newcomers as Introverts
00:11:34
Speaker
Well, and the natural obligation there, again, I think it just goes to we live in a culture and and just human nature, it's almost impossible to have relationships with people and not base those relationships on their yeah and and I seek to be as Christlike as I can. And I know for me, there, everybody, there becomes a point with everybody where I cut them out.
00:12:00
Speaker
You know, if they're, I can only take so much. I don't care who they are, you know, um at some level, they're someone can abuse me enough where I'm just like, I just, I can't be in relationship with that person.
00:12:14
Speaker
You know, even if I said I love I still would feel that way. So I think, we We have that with our other relationships. And so, and we know that we have those limits. So it's almost impossible for us to see God as not having that limit.
00:12:32
Speaker
the I mean, they the the creator of all things, the King of Kings, ah really i mean lets himself be abused in many ways. We see it all through the Old Testament, right? i mean, he just let people continually abuse these things that even though he called them the holiness, his patience is so enduring. So it's hard for us to imagine that.
00:12:57
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And then, you know, like we we know we have to kind of oh acceptance by friend groups and and and at work and all that kind of stuff. So we we carry that into our faith and into our walk with Christ.
00:13:14
Speaker
um And then your second question is, why is grace so important? Because if if it's not by God's grace alone, then at some level he it's us earning it.
00:13:30
Speaker
And if we can earn it, then what Jesus did on the cross is negated. yeah um You know, if if there is a level where I could earn some of that, then then that means it is possible For someone, you know, someone could lock themselves in a cave yeah and never sin against anyone and and just constantly meditate on your thoughts and get through life and enter and enter salvation.
00:13:56
Speaker
And that would negate what Jesus did. And so. The cross. It, you know, is is what the entire gospel is about, the cross and the resurrection.
00:14:09
Speaker
So yeah without that without it being fully based on grace, it would it would take away from that. Totally. that's ah That's a great answer. That was awesome. um So to pivot a bit, a little bit of a different question.
00:14:22
Speaker
you get You talked at least in the sermon that was posted about how regular attenders should treat visitors and how you know church, you know often you know it is for the for the body, but also it's to bring in new people to the party. You kind of use that language.
00:14:37
Speaker
If you're an introverted person and you're just like terrified of going up and talking to people, um You know, and you know and saying, hey, you know, I'm so and so nice to meet you. That that just like terrifies you.
00:14:47
Speaker
What are some great ways for people to still be inviting people into the party to welcome them to church to get them involved? um You know, I recently just went to like i I think I told you this earlier. I went to Mountain Life Church for the first time in a while, and that was my home church growing up, you know, all throughout my life. And.
00:15:04
Speaker
It was the first time that I had ever gone there because, you know, everyone's new. you know, a lot of people have moved on and it's a different church body for the most part. And I was I went there. I stood in the lobby and I was like, I don't know who to go to talk to. This is terrifying.
00:15:15
Speaker
So just thinking about that perspective from a newcomer coming in, I'm terrified. What does someone who is, you know, you know, introverted, they don't really know how to do that. How do they get involved and still help that person? How do they do that?
00:15:29
Speaker
well Yeah, that and that man, I'm glad you had that experience because I really do think that's something that people that go to church very long, they kind of forget. They forget what it's like to be someone who doesn't know.
00:15:44
Speaker
who doesn't feel at home, you know? um And it's it's scary when you don't feel at home someplace. it's yeah I mean, I'm an extrovert and even I, when I go someplace and I don't know where I'm supposed to go, I don't know who I can talk to. It's weird. I don't know.
00:16:00
Speaker
yeah Yeah, just feel anxious and uncomfortable. So i think it's important to remember but every single time someone walks through your the doors of a church for the first time, they feel that.
00:16:12
Speaker
Now, Imagine how they feel as a as someone who maybe hasn't been to church in a few years or ever, or their last experience at a church growing up or whatever was really negative.
00:16:27
Speaker
you know The parents went through a divorce and the church ostracized them, more or they were a kid that caused trouble and they all they remember is people constantly,
00:16:37
Speaker
ah reprimanding them or whatever it is or they were abused you know i mean there's the whole gamut so i think if church members we have to come to church remembering that we have to i really think that's a really such an important just imagine how that would change the way people viewed christianity if every church in america every single person who was a christ follower went on sunday mornings with that mindset and understood that yeah Now, that said, some practical ways.
00:17:11
Speaker
If you're and the introvert, but I would say, man, it's as the introvert, that they're the ones that should be plugged into the the organized ministries, you know, because.
00:17:23
Speaker
Right. I understand as an introvert, it scares might scare you to death to say, hey, I'm just going to walk up to this random person I don't know and start a conversation. But I can stand there with bulletins and smile and hand them a bulletin.
00:17:38
Speaker
Just say welcome. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. And yeah, even maybe say welcome. Even if you don't say welcome, even just a smile with a bolt and at least, at least you're doing something. I can stand there in the parking lot and smile and point, you know, um and or I can be in the kitchen and making coffee and helping create a more hospitable atmosphere or shoot, I come on Friday or Saturday and wipe clean the windows or something. You know i can do things to create an atmosphere.
00:18:06
Speaker
You know, but then on top of that, if you're at all outgoing. and think you just yeah, it comes down to going up and saying hi. And then, you know, I always try to train our volunteers and leaders on remember Ford.
00:18:19
Speaker
The, the word Ford, when you go up to someone, you say, hi then you say, is this your family? You ask about family. You ask them about, hey, what do you do for living? That's your occupation. And then like, oh man, did did you move to Utah because you like the outdoors? Man, there's so many recreational things to do. You ask them about their recreations. You ask them, you like to ski?
00:18:41
Speaker
And usually if you ask about those three things, the fourth is dreams. I don't really recommend that in your first conversation, but like, hey, what's your goals in life? what you but But if you can remember the F-O-R,
00:18:54
Speaker
family, occupation, and recreation, you can usually get at least a three minute, five minute conversation in with somebody and and show that you care. Yeah, that's that's ah that's actually really cool. and I think I've heard you say that and I couldn't have recalled it on the top of my head.
00:19:10
Speaker
That's really cool. I like that. And at least, you know, they feel like someone took interest in them enough to say something. Yes, that's tough. And I wanted to go back to when I went to Mountain Life, obviously, like I did end up talking to people. It wasn't like they weren't welcoming. It was just weird for me. you know, every day I go to church or every time I go to church.
00:19:27
Speaker
I know everybody because I go to, you know, I've been going to Mountain View for a while. And so it's like, hey, buddy, hey, I know all these people. That was a new experience for me going somewhere and not knowing people. So just wanted to put that little in there. Like it wasn't like I went there and they were really nice there, by the way. So just wanted to throw that in there. I didn't want to cast some shade. And that's the thing is, I mean, even almost all churches honestly are pretty good with it.
00:19:49
Speaker
But all it takes is we miss one person, right? If we don't all have that mindset, we we're missing people. That's true. That's a good point. um So a little bit, this is like a kind of a different question. So we, you know, you talk about the older brother, you bring someone into the kingdom.
00:20:05
Speaker
What is the, what is the tension between, you know, when someone new comes into the kingdom between, you know, they come in and they have some mess in their life.
Balancing Grace and Addressing Sin
00:20:13
Speaker
What is the tension between calling them to a higher standard and saying, hey, this is some sinful behavior that you have. You need to you need to lose this.
00:20:21
Speaker
But also being welcoming as they're new believers into the kingdom of God and not and not just being like you have to change all your behaviors you know instantly. Is that something that the Holy Spirit does or do we have as believers as a church, do we have a role in that? Describe that a little bit.
00:20:35
Speaker
Well, I think we do got to trust the Holy Spirit in that. um You know, obviously the same Holy Spirit that works in me is working in you and is working in the person that has given their life to Christ at whatever level.
00:20:50
Speaker
Now, I also believe the Holy Spirit uses us to do that. i think the Bible is pretty clear on that. So um i think one it starts off with, I think we need to have conversations with each other about where are people are on their walk. you know um We need to know like, hey, am I dealing with a believer or am I just dealing with someone who's going to church?
00:21:13
Speaker
What's the difference? Talk about that difference. What's that difference? Well, you know, I mean, like, for instance, I have a couple friends that I know very personally that go to our church that have not crossed over that line, if you will, of making a decision to say, hey, I'm a follower of Jesus. I want to follow Jesus.
00:21:33
Speaker
theyre They're very interested. They're very focused on morals. they And because of that, they like spending time with believers. um and But they still have there some doubts that have just kept them from making that decision.
00:21:51
Speaker
So I need to have a different view of them and a different conversation with them than I do someone like you who I know has been walking with Christ for many years.
00:22:02
Speaker
yeah um And then the other thing is we have to be kind of patient with each other. that you know Let's just say I'm dealing with, I'm gonna go to the extreme. I'm gonna deal i'm dealing with a guy who is 28 to 30 years old, has lived his life as a womanizer and a drug user, but blah, blah, blah.
00:22:25
Speaker
And he's been a Christian for a year. Well, chances are, i don't know about you, but the Holy Spirit, there's things in my life that I've been Christian for 35 years that I still struggle with.
00:22:38
Speaker
The things he's struggling with, yeah, he might still be Behaving like a womanizer every now and then he might still be doing certain things that, you know, I would look at and go, man, what are you doing?
00:22:50
Speaker
But he's come a long way. I have an ah individual I spend time with and I'm discipling and mentoring right now that. You know, I mean, I would say you don't have a more than a 5 minute conversation with him that he's not dropping an F bomb.
00:23:05
Speaker
um He's still sometimes, you know, we he's definitely smoked. He's doing, you know, he's doing, um he he has some different views that I'd be like, oh, Drake.
00:23:17
Speaker
But he's come a long way in the year that he's known Christ. So you have to kind of have a mindset that, but I'm also not afraid to have those conversations with him. And then the only way that, and in order to have those conversations though,
00:23:33
Speaker
Like, I can't run into him in the church parking lot and have that conversation. Those those kind of conversations have to come out of a spot of love. And yeah for someone to know you love them, you have to invest with them. I heard something today that um I thought I'm going to definitely going to keep.
00:23:51
Speaker
You can pretend to care about someone, but you can't pretend to show up for someone. And there's, a you know, like I can tell you, oh, I care about you, blah, blah, blah.
00:24:02
Speaker
But if I'm never showing up, if I'm never investing in you, it's just words, you know? And unfortunately, I think a lot of times in the church, we we pretend to care. But when you do care, it does make a difference.
00:24:14
Speaker
like Like instantly, like it's very obvious. Yeah. If you show up. Yeah. Yeah. So if we're going to have those conversations, going back to your conversation, you your question, yeah we got to show up for people. And then when we show up for people, we earn the right to partner with the Holy Spirit in their life.
00:24:32
Speaker
Good word. I think in, I think it's young life. I'm pretty sure it's young life. They always say you have to earn the right to be heard. You know, to like, that's like a thing for leaders, like with kids, like you have to earn the right to be heard. Yeah. There's the other one. ah No one knows how much, no one cares how much, you know, until they know how much you care.
00:24:48
Speaker
Oh, sure. Yeah, I've heard that one. yeahs That's good. But yeah, so you're saying like relationship, having that, that allows you to be able to speak into people's lives. And you're right. Like, you know, for some people, it's a long, I mean, for all of us, actually, it's a long, slow thing and transformation.
00:25:01
Speaker
It's that it just it takes a second. It's metamorphosis. That's cool. So kind of you you already touched on this a little bit. So that's like for somebody else. But then like personally, um let me
Rethinking God's Image and Building Conviction
00:25:13
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see here. Let me find my question.
00:25:18
Speaker
So how do we as as Christians develop good convictions from the Holy Spirit? And why does it feel? I think for some Christians, we feel like God is looking at us, like watching us in the sky with hatred, just waiting to get us for every mistake. How how do we develop good convictions?
00:25:33
Speaker
And why do we view God that way? Well, definitely as far as the thinking God's watching you trying to make mistakes. ah catch you doing mistakes. I mean, we all carry baggage of performance mentality.
00:25:48
Speaker
um So we're going to bring that into our view of God sometimes. um But to change that. I really do think it just comes down to wanting to spend time with God wanting to have relationship with God, you know. um i I think of my relationship with my wife and with Tanya and, you know, she doesn't want me to just have a checklist that I say, oh, I do these six things to show I love Tanya.
00:26:19
Speaker
She wants to know that my heart is focused on her. That my heart is seeking And when I'm doing that, um and when i'm when i'm doing that then those other things happen.
00:26:35
Speaker
But I think sometimes as Christians, what happens is we just focus on those things. you know um So you know with the but my wife, it could be take her on a date every other week, um bring her her coffee in the mornings, tell her I love her every once a day and kiss her when I say goodbye. and i have my list and I just check it.
00:26:54
Speaker
Well, that that wouldn't be from my heart. but if i now Now there's nothing wrong with holding myself accountable to make sure I do this. But but But those things should come out of because i have a heart for her.
00:27:05
Speaker
And I think sometimes as Christians, we get, because of that performance mentality, we get caught up in those things rather than just seeking to have that heart for God.
00:27:16
Speaker
And the more we have that heart for God, you know, Jesus talks about, I'm the vine, you are the branches. Abide in me. The more I just seek to be connected to Jesus, the more I'm going to just live out God.
00:27:30
Speaker
yeah the convictions of the holy spirit yeah and he sanctifies you as that happens it goes on but yeah if you just try if you just try to do it from the behavior modification standpoint i think what you're saying is it yeah it's almost it's almost back it's almost backward like i'm gonna i'm gonna make my behaviors look like a good person and i'm gonna be morally good and it's like but hold on like the whole reason why are we doing this it's not just the sake of being moral yeah that's cool and i would say the first 10 years i was a christian Most of my life, most of my behavior was was behavior modification.
00:28:02
Speaker
Yeah. i you know It's nice. It's easy. And you feel good about yourself when you do your quiet times every day and you check your box and you're like I did it. i'm I'm closer to Jesus. And that might not always be the case. You're just checking a box sometimes. yeah Yep.
00:28:17
Speaker
Did you ever get really into that? Like the whole like daily quiet time thing? um Or were you never that person? to With daily quiet time? Yeah. like the I'm going to get up and I'm going to every, like 30 minutes every single day and go through like ah like a reading plan. Were you ever like that? I mean, as a young Christian.
00:28:35
Speaker
Yeah, I had a few years where I was very um dogmatic about that stuff. And I, um and, you know, obviously um I'm very, I think everyone should still spend time daily with God.
00:28:46
Speaker
But I definitely had that like, well, if i don't, I um' feel guilty. I feel shame. And if I do, I feel good about myself. Yeah.
00:28:56
Speaker
But yeah, over the years, I definitely got a little bit more where I'm more just focused on like, do i have a desire to spend time with God? And so so now, even today, i will say,
00:29:10
Speaker
there even when I'm feeling really good about making sure I spend time with God every day, I don't necessarily read my Bible every day. I'll read my Bible maybe three or four days and then one or two days i just go on a long prayer walk.
00:29:22
Speaker
could be in prayer. Or, um you know, I'll, um that's probably the more focused thing, but I every every now and then I'll i'll take my journal And I'll just go and I'll journal for like an hour or I'll try to do something like that more than just like, here's my thing and I did my thing.
00:29:43
Speaker
Yeah. Like I just checked it off and that's all I need to do. I'm done. No relationship. Just make sure I, you know, read, read three verses. Yeah. That's cool. Awesome. Well, that was all my questions. I feel like we, we hit everything really good. Um, how did you feel about this? Just like, it's, it's going to be an interesting rhythm. I think depending on some of the questions I ask, it'll, I'm hoping not to like, I don't want to form it in such a way where it's, I'm always hitting the same things over and over. So if you ever have any ideas of like, Hey, let's talk, let's, let's, let's bend these questions this way. i always want to hear about that. How did you feel about this? Was this good?
00:30:13
Speaker
No, yeah, this was definitely good. Yeah. i And, you know, maybe as we get going on this too, we can even ask other people to send you some questions. yeah Hey, Sunday night, if you have some questions, send them. That'd be cool. That'd be cool. People's perspectives.
00:30:26
Speaker
No, yeah, i don't want to I don't want to be scratching an itch that's not there, if if that makes sense, if that's a good analogy. I don't want to be, you know, like ah some people are like I don't even want to know about this. Why are are they even talking? Yeah.
00:30:37
Speaker
Well, cool. Well, awesome. So I think we'll end the podcast there. So again, this is a Table Talk Recap Podcast. I'm Danny. This is Shane. And yeah, like i said, we're we'll see how this goes. We might make some changes. This is not the set way. We're always going doing things. But for now, i think this is good. So we'll be back next week. And again.
00:30:54
Speaker
We'd love for you guys to join us at MBF Church in Hebrew City, Utah. And if you don't get a chance to join us in person, we'd also love for you guys to listen to the podcast online or watch the video just so you have an idea, um being able to go over the sermon. and That way, this podcast hopefully is beneficial for you.
00:31:08
Speaker
So awesome. um Is there anything else you want to add, Shane, before we close out? No, just looking forward to seeing how this kind of morphs over the over time. No, I'm super excited. Awesome. Sounds good. Thanks. Love you guys. Bye-bye.