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EPISODE 118: SPRING BREAK IS TERRIFYING!
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EPISODE 118: SPRING BREAK IS TERRIFYING!
Spring Break used to seem like a fantastic dream— but now it seems like a total nightmare! From murders to missing persons, from STIs to terrible accidents, this episode might have you planning a staycation.
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Introduction and Show Banter
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Frage the 13th Horror Podcast is a proud independent podcast. To learn more about the show, visit frage13.com.
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Yes, I will always be 22 and a half feet!
Episode 118: Spring Break Mayhem
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Nothing really matters, just keep drinking past that dutching! Maddy, remember when we could do that? Yes. Yes, I do. It's episode 118. Spring break is terrifying!
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00:01:20
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Where are you gonna hide? Nowhere. Because there's no one like you left. What do we want? Justice! When do we want it? Now! Let's go! What are you waiting for, huh? What are you waiting for? I want you to know that the movement we started is only just beginning. Sometimes.
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Miami Beach put to the test. This weekend has really, yes, historically been our toughest weekend.
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After years of spring breakers wreaking havoc on this small island, officials are looking to curb the chaos with arguably the toughest restrictions yet, including DUI checkpoints, $100 parking, bag checks, $500 towing fees, and now all parking garages will be closed to visitors. More than a dozen drones will be patrolling overhead, 140 plus state troopers, and even the Coast Guard deploying to help local police. Miami Beach Commissioner David Suarez says this season is different.
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We're back at it back again. This is Friday, the 13th horror podcast. My name is Andrew and I'm Maddie. And today we are in episode 118. Spring Break is terrifying. And if you've never been to the show before, this is the podcast where we talk all about horror, horror in real life and horror in the movies.
00:02:41
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And today, like I said, we're talking all things party, party, party in spring break. We're going to Fort Lauderdale and we're going to get ourselves a pina colada and we're going to party, party, party. Oh, getting crazy. But before we get into the meat of the show, like we always do, let's take a severe left turn into the certified terrifying corner. Maddie, take it away. Sure. So we just have really just a couple of things for this certified terrifying corner.
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Thank God. It's Easter weekend after all when we're recording this. We don't want to talk about too many terrifying things when our Lord is raised from the dead.
Bridge Collapse Incident and Viral Video
00:03:22
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Okay, here's the big one though. This was crazy. The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore. Who is Francis Scott Key, by the way, Andrew? Do you know?
00:03:46
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I do know
00:03:48
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It's not great. We only get one verse, basically. Anyways, the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore collapsed after a shipping container struck it in the middle of the night. There were people that were confirmed missing. I know that as of today, there were some bodies pulled out of the water finally, which is just really, really sad. That was, you know, look, my brother texted me. He was like, did you see this shit? Oh, my God.
00:04:15
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And I watch the video of this gigantic shipping, you know, container ship, whatever thing, and it just fucking barges right into like the main support for this gigantic ass bridge in Baltimore. And that thing just folds like fucking dominoes, dude. It was crazy wild. Yeah. My one of my worst fears once again confirmed. Yay. I'm afraid of bridges again, everybody. And I don't remember. But when we were in Rhode Island, we had to go across that.
00:04:44
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enormous bridge and I was driving and I couldn't, I couldn't even look. I was just so terrified. I mean, Michael and I are both like, whoa, we look at this. Oh my God.
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Really incredible stuff.
Spring and Personal Endeavors
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Andrew, the only other terrifying thing that I have to tell you is that I am running for delegate for the Democratic National Convention, for Democrats abroad. So you never know, you might see me at the DNC in Chicago in August. So this is just my little call out to everybody to don't be a dummy.
00:05:18
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There's lots of things that we can fight about later, but just please vote for Joe Biden so that democracy as we know it doesn't come to an end. Thank you. Also, if you have a chance to vote in Democrats abroad, if you're a citizen living abroad, you can vote for me and I'll tell you later how you can do that, but we'll see if I win. It's going to be fun.
00:05:36
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Fun, fun, fun for everyone. Just like spring break. Well, maybe not fun for everybody after we go through some things to talk about. You know, I'll tell you over here in Ireland, the spring is finally like here and we're recording this on 30th of March. Tomorrow our clocks finally change forward like the rest of you fucks in America. So it's going to be like bright really early and it's going to stay bright for a long time. So fucking excited.
00:06:06
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I'm very, very happy. Yeah. Yeah. We've been experiencing it already for many weeks now and it's been lovely. Good. So Maddie, when it comes to spring break, what what do you think of when you think of like spring break? What are your personal thoughts about it? Yeah. So like I never really did like a spring break trip ever. So I never went to Florida or like, you know, like the classic places in America that people would go to for spring break never happened for me.
00:06:36
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So like I literally don't have like a real photo in my head like for spring break I always just like went home and like I was just there because I didn't have any money to go anywhere. So like in my head I suppose I really have just like
00:06:52
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the total stereotypical spring break in my head. Like MTV spring break? Yeah. It's like MTV and like fucking like everyone's at a pool and everyone's ripped and everyone's fucking snorting cocaine off of like a t-shirt contest. Yeah. Off of penises and like, you know, drinking as much as they can with, you know, what are those called beer bongs? Yeah. And like, you know, just like basically fucking everyone. That's my idea of spring break, but I never got to experience it.
00:07:18
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Yeah, I remember my junior year of high school. For some reason, our parents let us I think there was like eight of us, if I remember right. We got in two vans and drove all the way down to Fort Lauderdale from from Michigan, which is a very long trip, like 27 hours. And we stayed with one of my friend's uncles in Fort Lauderdale. I mean, we were all like 17. So like there was like nothing we could
00:07:47
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You know, there's nothing we could really do. Right. We just when we went to the beach and like hung out and stuff and, you know, maybe a couple I didn't drink until I was 20. So it and I. And so I think some people maybe snuck some beers from the uncle's fridge or whatever. It was like nothing like what like what the TV tells you. And then when I was in college, I don't necessarily remember if this was a break or not, but I remember it was in the spring.
History and Dangers of Spring Break
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A couple of us went to Vegas
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And that was a pretty debaucherous trip, if I remember right, because surprise, it was, um, it was two gay guys and two straight girls. Like, we went to Vegas and we stayed at the worst hotel. I'm so sorry if anyone is an employee of circus, circus listening to say, was it the Luxor? No. You mean the holiday and the shape, like a pyramid? Right. It's not good.
00:08:42
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Um, no, we say that circus circus, which is cool. Quote unquote, the family friendly casino. So it's like, they have like a circus every day and there's like an arcade for kids. And like, it's very kid focused, even though it's like all adults smoking everywhere. I didn't want to stay out. No circus. No.
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And it was funny, we weren't even like in the main building. We were in like the like you had to go like on a moving sidewalk out the back door to like another building. And, you know, we probably paid like ninety nine dollars a night because we're all broke college kids, so we don't really care. But the only thing I remember about that trip is that we went to what was supposed to be a gay bar and
00:09:24
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The only thing is like all the bartenders and all the staff were straight. And so my two girlfriends were getting like, not too far off of most gay bars, quite frankly. Well, I mean, but the only thing was like, you know, I'm, I'm probably like, what, 22 at the time I've been out for like, I've been out for two years. And like, this is my first experience outside of Grand Rapids, Michigan at a gay bar. You're looking to get some exotic D basically.
00:09:50
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or just like get hit on, I don't know, by someone other than someone I see every other Thursday at my local gay bar. And the only thing that would happen is that because all the bartenders are straight, they were all just buying drinks for my straight girlfriends. And I was like, should I buy drinks for you too? I know. I mean, you were the wing men for the girls at that point. I know. I know. So nothing like what TV shows you, but I did have a little bit of experience with Spring Break. Wow.
00:10:18
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Do you know where Spring Break began? No, but I'm going to guess because I haven't even looked at your notes. Is it like actually really, really old?
00:10:32
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So it starts right around in the 1930s. Oh, OK. All right. So it's still pretty old. Yeah, it starts in the 1930s when the Colgate College spring team, which is a swimming team, began to travel to Fort Lauderdale for training. Colgate boys are hot. Fuck yeah.
00:10:49
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Soon after, swimmers from all over the country started attending competitions all over Florida, and by the 1950s, college students everywhere headed south to spend spring break close to the beach. Then it was really solidified in the 1960s because of the movie Where the Boys Are, which I have never seen.
00:11:12
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I mean, I feel like I've maybe seen some porn with similar names, but not like a non-pornographic movie, though. Yeah, it was a hit book that was transformed into a film sometime around the 1960s. The movie was a huge hit after its release, and then thousands of students visited Fort Lauderdale for spring break, and it became the capital of spring break for years to come.
00:11:37
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Um, I will say that I looked up a statistic spring break is the visitor high season for Florida with an average of 31.2 million visitors, which that, that to me right there is terrifying. Like, look, I think people have heard us talk about Florida more than enough on this show. If they've been listeners for a while, like the, the, the very idea right now of going to Florida for spring break,
00:12:03
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I think I would rather lose a finger. You know what I mean? Like, I would hate it. And can you imagine they've got to jack up those prices for this time of year? You know what I mean? So if I'm being honest, I don't like when I anytime with like a spring break, I don't want to go any of those places. I don't want to be around any of those young people. I don't want to be near them. I don't want to see them. It sounds like a fuck, like truly like like a horror film. It does. Yeah.
00:12:33
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I'd like to go on the off-season, thank you very much. Off-season, yes. When it's cheaper, number one, and also I don't have to deal with any of you. Ugh, gross. All I need is a hot tub and I don't know, something else. That's the thing anymore, too. I don't really need that much to be entertained at this age. I just need a place to relax that is kind of warm. That's really all. Yeah.
00:12:56
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I mean, a beach is a plus, a pool is a plus, and maybe like a nice local restaurant that just kind of serves general fare. That's fantastic. I mean, listen to us. God, we are old now, my Lord. Oh, all right. Maddie, you have some statistics around spring break. Why don't you go ahead and share those with us? Yeah, sure. So, um, I found on a website called inner body.com. Um, what a name for a website. Uh, the most dangerous spring break destinations in the United
00:13:26
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Oh, no. So there's a bunch of different ways that they sort of splice out the data. So I'll just kind of give you a few of those splices. And this was actually from a study that was done. And the key takeaways from the study were these. New Orleans was found to be the second most dangerous spring break destination overall, and the most dangerous in terms of drug overdoses.
00:13:50
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In terms of deaths related to alcohol poisoning, the study determined that Lake Havasu, Arizona was the most dangerous.
00:14:07
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We as like Midwesterner slash East coaster, like this half of the country, we really only think about ourselves and like maybe California. Like you forget about everything else. Like I don't know what it is. It's just just like over there. They probably forget about all of us. Like if you ask someone to point to Illinois on a map, I don't know. They'd be able to find it like like an Oregonian. You know what I mean? My desire to go to Arizona is literally zero. Like I never want to go.
00:14:33
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I've been to Phoenix once and it was just OK. Yeah. Biloxi, Mississippi is the most dangerous destination in terms of catching an STD. What? Yep. Baton Rouge and New Orleans not only ranked first and second for cases of chlamydia, but also ranked second and third for cases of gonorrhea. Outer Banks, North Carolina is the safest popular city for spring break travel by the study's measures.
00:15:04
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So the top 10 most dangerous locations would be these in America now. Baton Rouge, Louisiana, New Orleans, Louisiana. So Louisiana, you're really racking it up there. Biloxi, which I mentioned earlier, Virginia Beach, Virginia, Charleston, South Carolina, which is a lovely place. Charleston is really lovely. I would never want to go there for spring break, but the rest of the year is really gorgeous. Hilton Head Island, Jacksonville, Florida, which I've been to once and would literally
00:15:32
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rather go to jail than ever go back to Miami, Florida have zero interest in going to St. St. Louis, Missouri is on this list, which I know who the who the fuck is going to St. Louis for spring to see that arch baby. I mean, who is who is doing that? I've got it. Can you imagine this? Like, I imagine them like doing shots off of the arch.
00:15:57
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It would be like it'd be like me saying, oh, yeah, spring break. We're going to Indianapolis. Fuck. We're going to Duluth. Yeah. Like, what are you? What the fuck are you talking about? And finally, the 10th most dangerous city in America for spring break is Fort Lauderdale, where Andrew himself spent a lot of time. Now, there are other options here and we were thinking about places that are not so dangerous now. So here are the top 10 places that are the least dangerous for spring break.
00:16:26
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Now, Outer Banks, North Carolina, like I said before, number one, number two, even though it was on the list for what was it for? Where are you for alcohol poisoning? Lake Havasu was actually number two on this list for the safest places to go. Key West, Florida is number three. I love Key West, the only place in Florida I like. Great. South Padre Island in Texas, Boston, Massachusetts. Also a place I don't know why you would want to spend spring break there, but OK.
00:16:56
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A weird spring break choice. Love the city, but a weird spring break choice. Daytona Beach, Florida. Salt Lake City, Utah. Okay. Mormons. This one is this one. I mean, I really do love this city, but why? Why would you spend spring break there? Pittsburgh.
00:17:12
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like oh no no no i mean if you haven't been to pittsburgh pittsburgh is actually really fucking cool i love that city but like where the nerds go for spring break no thank you uh west palm beach florida and finally seattle washington also a place quite frankly i don't want to go for spring break um so interesting stuff there now when it comes to the top places for alcohol poisoning
00:17:36
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I'll run through these really quick. We already know like Havasu, Phoenix, so both Arizona at the top, Sioux Falls, South Dakota, not a surprise. It's a very depressing place. Salt Lake City, Utah, that actually does surprise me. Minneapolis, Minnesota. Yeah, Mormons don't drink, so that's a weird one. It's even hard to like find like real alcohol there. Minneapolis, Minnesota, also kind of surprising.
00:17:58
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Denver, Colorado does not surprise me. Boston, Massachusetts and Atlantic City, New Jersey. Palm Springs, California. San Diego, California. Those last two do not surprise me at all. Okay, now for drug overdoses, Andrew, here they are. New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Nashville, Tennessee.
00:18:19
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Cincinnati, Ohio. Wow. Does not surprise me because Ohio is a cesspit. Myrtle Beach, Charleston, Stamford, Connecticut, which is funny, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Lake Havasu City, and Phoenix. Now, Andrew, what do you think is the top place for STDs?
00:18:39
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Um, didn't you say, didn't you say Biloxi? Biloxi is the most dangerous place in terms of catching an STD. And on this, Oh, I see what this is. This list is saying for places that are not in the South. So now what do you think it is?
00:18:55
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Not in the South. Maybe like Phoenix? It's Los Angeles, California. Wow. Then New York City, then St. Louis again. St. Louis has got a big gonorrhea problem, apparently. Sioux Falls. And then the ones in the South that we already mentioned. So it's really interesting to look at these little dumb top 10 lists and just see where that all falls and see how much they overlap.
00:19:21
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and then to see what young people are choosing to go to. I guess that's changing. I guess people are really going to Pittsburgh and Minneapolis for those spring breaks, but there they are.
00:19:34
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Yeah. And I just want to say, like, we sound like we're bashing a lot of these places. We like a lot of these places. Just it's a weird spring break choice. Yeah. I mean, I mean, like, look, it's it's like, OK, I love Chicago. If you came to Chicago for your spring break, I would be like, why? What are you doing? Are you a fucking idiot? Like, you don't know what the weather's going to be. It might literally snow like eight, eight feet on you. That's where you want to be for spring break. What the fuck?
00:19:57
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Yeah, and I think it's so weird to me. I don't know if you experienced this or not. We're living where you are in your past, but like when I hear like there's a list of like top 10 places for overdosing on drugs, I'm just like.
Unsolved Mysteries of Spring Break
00:20:13
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I'm so far outside of drug culture that it just blows my mind that we would even have a statistic like that. I know we have an issue, but I'm so far removed from it that it's so hard for me to wrap my brain around. I don't know how you feel about that. I would say so for me too. Growing up for us, we just... I think we talked about this on previous episodes. I think even drugs are... We did drugs are terrifying before.
00:20:42
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But like, number one, none of us had money for drugs. Just flat out, we didn't have money. The most money that anyone would have ever had for drugs would have gotten them like ditch weed, basically. So like, my friends were maybe smoking weed. I didn't smoke weed until college.
00:20:57
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And we were focused on smoking cigarettes and drinking as much as we could. And it was cheap beer and it was cheap vodka, tequila, whatever we could get our hands on. But drugs were just not part of the picture, at least for me and my close friends. Now, some of those friends did things. Michael, for example, he'll tell his Spring Break story about getting fucking tripped on acid and going fucking nuts. But by and large, that just didn't really happen for us.
00:21:26
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Yeah, I would agree. And I think, I think it's a, I think it's a Midwestern thing. I think if you're looking at like addictions, like the Midwest has much more of an alcohol problem than a drug problem. Whereas, whereas maybe like somewhere on the East coast might have more of like a cocaine issue or on the West coast, you know, like, I don't know what they do out there. Cause it just seemed to be so fucking happy all the time. Yeah.
00:21:51
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But I think, you know, things have really changed. I mean, like if you think about it, too, like when we were growing up, like there weren't really music festivals that you could write. Right. So the music festivals that were around when we were young were like they were festivals for like older people, like young people were not going to Lollapalooza because it's been around for. I think people forget like it was there before it started in Chicago. It's I think 96. It's been maybe even like 92, I want to say.
00:22:20
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I think it was the resurgence of that Woodstock that kind of made it cool again. I think that festival culture has had a big part to play in how drugs are a part of young people's lives now. And I would say over here,
00:22:39
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I think Europe is way more free with doing some crazy drugs. And those are drugs that if I were a kid, I would have been really scared to do. I would have been scared of them. The first time that I did ecstasy, I thought, I remember taking that pill and I was like, holy shit, what?
00:22:58
Speaker
What did I just do? Holy shit. And the people that were with me were like, okay, it's okay. Calm down. Calm down. You'll be all right. You'll be all right. But my God, anything else other than that? Whoa. No way, dude. I also think that we are a product of a time too. We grew up in the... We literally grew up in the late 80s, early 90s when it
00:23:19
Speaker
It was like say no to drugs, dare, drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs. Like it was, you know what I mean? Like it was crammed into our head that if you take drugs, you will die. I mean, you're, you're absolutely right. Like the whole Nancy Reagan bit, like that really did a number on our heads, you know, in the same way that like thinking about AIDS for our generation is very different than how, you know, young people think of it now. Um, it's just times fucking change.
00:23:45
Speaker
You know, yeah, it's crazy. And like, you know, even now, like when I go to a festival, like, you know, I enjoy my I enjoy my marijuana. I enjoy it quite a bit. And like, that's where I like to go. You know, when I'm like ready to like really escape with a drug of some sort.
00:24:00
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Um, but like the drugs that like super hop you up, like I am just not there, dude. I can't. Yeah, me neither. I, I get too panicky, but that's just me. Um, all right. Do you want to hear some spooky, unsolved spring break mysteries? Yeah. Tell me it answered. Go ahead.
00:24:18
Speaker
All right, I'm going to tell these stories. I tried to do my due diligence and look up and see if any of these have been solved. To my knowledge, they have not. But if I if I didn't see then, sorry. So the first one is about Renny Joes. I did look up on a pronounce his name because I was saying Renny Jose. Sorry, I bad.
00:24:38
Speaker
Rice University student, Renny Joes, wanted to party in the warm weather for spring break, so he and his friends took a trip to the most infamous college party locale, Panama City, Florida. I've never been to Panama City, actually.
00:24:54
Speaker
When they showed up in the beach town on March 1st, 2014, they were ready to have a week's worth of fun. But just a couple of days later, something went horribly wrong. Renny's friends lost track of him, and one night they couldn't find him. I should say this story comes from Lister.com.
00:25:13
Speaker
Hours later, after searching high and low, they reported him missing to the cops. The police began to investigate and started uncovering clues for one. Renny first went missing around seven p.m. on the night of March 3rd. However, his friends didn't report him missing until 11 a.m. the next morning, which I mean, I think is kind of normal because you kind of think like, oh, maybe they met somebody and like maybe they just that went off. That's what I would think. Yeah, you know.
00:25:41
Speaker
When detective asked about the delay, um, Joseph's pals explained that they figured he just simply would show up in the morning and he never did. And so nobody, um, nobody, and nobody has ever seen or heard from him ever again.
00:25:57
Speaker
As cops continued to press, they found that Renny's clothes on the Panama City Beach. That find was a major puzzle too. Cleanup crews had swept up and down that very beach just five hours before the clothes were found.
00:26:12
Speaker
And yet one of the beach cleaners remembered seeing clothes at that location when they did their work. Oh, didn't remember seeing clothes when they did their work there. So the police began to theorize that Renny or someone else dumped his clothes after some some kind of dark mystery.
00:26:28
Speaker
As more friends began to come forward, other stories emerged. One of the friends claimed that Rennie had taken LSD the night before he went missing. While allegedly under the influence of the drug, Rennie supposedly told his friends that he was suicidal. One concerned pal even wondered whether the engineering major drowned in the ocean late at night.
00:26:49
Speaker
Um, Joseph's family says suicide would have been completely out of character for him though. But in the meantime, they just want answers. Rennie's so-called friends left town in droves before the cops could question them all. Oh, you've got to be kidding me.
00:27:05
Speaker
In all the years since many of his pals have lawyered up, and none of them have ever come forward with information, to this day, nobody knows what happened to Renny Joes. They just left. Yeah, they just left. You know, I gotta say, like, even looking back at trying to like put myself in my my young brain or whatever, there is no way I would have ever just left. No way.
00:27:28
Speaker
Not without before talking to the cops. No, no. Honestly, not until we knew what the fuck was going on. There's no way... If it was my friend, are you fucking kidding me? Fuck.
00:27:41
Speaker
Yeah. And this one, like not to, not to put this on the police, but some, a lot of these unsolved mysteries are based on the police. Yeah, sure. It does kind of sound like they got kind of lazy with this one where they were like, well, everyone left, so I don't really know what to do. So, uh, chocolate's not up to missing. You know what I mean? It's awful.
Media Reviews and Recommendations
00:28:00
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I mean, like these are, they're real, even if it is a kid doing something stupid, it's a real person and like they, they, they deserve to be found. They deserve to be found.
00:28:10
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That's sad. That's very sad. The next one is called The Lost Boys of Pickering, Ontario. This one is crazy. So just, I can't even explain. Give it to me now. It's tragic enough when one person disappears into thin air, but what do you do when a group of six vanishes without a trace?
00:28:31
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That's what happened in the city of Pickering, Ontario on the night of March 17, 1995. That evening was hosted what was otherwise a perfectly normal high school party. Students in town were celebrating the start of spring break, so they got together for a big blowout in the eastern suburb of Toronto.
00:28:48
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During the night, a group of boys decided they wanted to leave the party early. So while the rager was still in full swing, the six boys decided to split. They walked away from the group and out into the night. Some said that they had commandeered a motorboat and wanted to take it for a joy ride. Others claim they were simply tired of the party and wanted to go. Whatever their motivation may have been, the boys were never seen again. Hours later,
00:29:15
Speaker
Several of the boys' girlfriends became alarmed when they couldn't reach the young men, so they reported the boys missing. Police in Pickering sent out search parties. Sadly, very few clues were ever recovered. Surveillance video from a doc in town did appear to show at least three of the six boys walking by around 2 a.m. that morning.
00:29:36
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Family members have since positively identified the three they believe were caught on camera, but the clip was grainy and brief and cops didn't know where else to turn. You know, this is something that's very interesting about nowadays where everyone has a ring camera or there's just so much more surveillance and it's all like Crispin and HD and clear. If you think about 1995 and that was not video, nothing like that at all.
00:30:01
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All right, soon it became clear nobody had any answers to the group's disappearance. Even long after, clues cops optimistically hoped could be linked to the case weren't what they seemed. A few years after they vanished, a body washed up on the banks of the Niagara River. The corpse wore red pants that were remarkably similar to the ones worn by one of the boys at the night they vanished.
00:30:25
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Police wondered whether it could be his body. They ordered a DNA testing. Sadly, it came back negative. In the decades since, cops haven't had any other reliable leads on what happened to the six lost boys of Pickering. Oh, wow. God, I just it is so crazy to me that six people could go missing and not one scrap of clue could be recovered.
00:30:50
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Yeah. And then this last one is about Sarah Ann Otten. This one is really sad, so just be prepared. Sarah Ann Otten's murder should have never happened. The college student had been invited to take a spring break trip down to Mexico with friends in March of 1973, but she declined the offer, instead choosing to hang back in her dorm at the University of Iowa to catch up on schoolwork.
00:31:19
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For a few days, it seemed like she'd live on a mundane spring rake on campus, but on March 13th, two other students who had stayed back in the dorm noticed something strange as they walked down the hall. Otten's door was left wide open. The curious college kids walked inside to see what was going on and made a horrific discovery. Sarah Ann's lifeless body was found on the floor.
00:31:41
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She had been strangled to death and covered hastily with a bed sheet. The students called the cops who rushed in and began to investigate. Soon the police had a suspect in their sights. Former University of Iowa football player James Hall.
00:31:57
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Hall was charged with murder, tried and convicted in the case. He was sent to jail and expected to live out his life there. But from the start of his prison sentence, something was wrong. Defense attorneys appealed the verdict and found prosecutors withheld key evidence at Hall's trial. Prosecutors also claimed that during the trial,
00:32:16
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that Hall's fingerprints were found in the scene but never entered them into evidence, into court to prove it. Police detectives also came under fire for lying about how witnesses supposedly picked Hall out of a police lineup even though they hadn't. Those shady courtroom antics prompted the judge to throw out Hall's conviction.
00:32:37
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After a protracted legal battle, Hall was released from jail in 1983. The next year, the in Iowa grand jury declined to re-indite him on murder charge. He walked free and even came away from the situation $60,000 richer. Whoa. After settling a lawsuit from the prosecutor's office. Otten's killer was never brought to justice. Hall's story didn't end there though.
00:33:03
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Less than a decade later in 1993, he was tried and convicted of the 1992 murder of a Cedar Rapids woman and was sentenced to life in prison. So I think we see what happened there. And I think that once again, it shows a major flaw in our in our system that needs to.
00:33:22
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be taken care of because we're letting people go that should have been convicted and you know sadly Sarah will never see the um you know the can well she I mean I evidently you know it took another woman to get killed for him to be convicted but I can only think that
00:33:36
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You know, I think often back to when we talked about colleges and we talked about we talked about how those guys are head up like they're held up to such a like like just they're held up so high that it almost seems like they can get away with anything. In a lot of cases, they do. They do. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Well, Andrew, I don't think either of you are either you or I are going on spring break anytime soon, are we?
00:34:06
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No, we don't have kids and we're not in college. So we'll be safe. That's good. I'm glad for that. Cool. So Andrew, do you think we should move on to our next segment? What do you think? Yeah, I think it's time to say what you've been watching, bitch. Let's all go to the lobby. Let's all go to the lobby. Let's all go to the lobby to get ourselves a treat.
00:34:36
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It's time for what you've been watching, bitch. What you've been watching, you partying bitch. And this is the segment of the show where we talk about all the things that we've been watching, reading, listening to, you name it. But usually it's what we've been watching. Hence the name of the segment, you little bitch. So Andrew is going to tell us the first thing that he's been watching right now.
00:34:57
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Yes, I watched the movie Slay, which is on to be this. Think of if dust till dawn mixed with too long food. Thanks for everything. Julie Newmar. So it's about it's about four drag queens who accidentally book a show at a kind of like rundown, like out of the woods dive bar.
00:35:21
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and they pull up in their RV van and they go in and they're performing and it's like to mixed like okay there's like there's like two people that are like super fans that like traveled and are like oh my god i'm so happy that you are here we never get this kind of thing in our small town and then there's all of course like all the bigots and like the the people that are like not accepting and whatever you know i mean it's like a mix
00:35:43
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And then, um, what happens is that there is a guy who is bit by a vampire who shows up and has been turned into a vampire. And then it's kind of just, it's, it's very the dustal Donny. Like it's like they got a band together to try to defeat the vampires and things happen. Um, this has, uh, the, the most famous
00:36:02
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drag queens that I knew from this were Trinity the Tuck and Heidi and Closet. Okay. It's on 2B. It's not going to blow your socks off. It's like not, you know, that it's a 2B original. So I mean, take that for what it is. Yeah. But I still had fun with it. It's definitely like a fun party movie. And if you're this was like a perfect perfect companion for what we did last night because we watched RuPaul's Drag Race, the newest the newest episode. And then we watched this. So it was kind of just like a drag night, if you will.
00:36:32
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Um, so I had fun with it. If you have to be, it's free with commercials so you can watch slay there. Very cool. Um, so I have, I have one film today and then three sort of classic TV shows that I'm doing a rewatch of. So I'll start with the horror film. Um, and I got to go see late night with the devil at the cinema. Have you seen this yet?
00:36:55
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I want to see this really bad. It's only in limited theaters here, so I haven't had a chance to see it. You should go see it in the cinema. It's it'll be a lot of it's I mean, watch it at home and it'll be equally as good. But like I the night that I went to the lighthouse to see it, I got over there kind of early and I was like, yeah, sure, I'll come come see the show.
00:37:15
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Um, got a ticket and I was like, Oh, Hey, you know, when does the door, when do the doors open? Also like how sold is the show? And she was like, actually it's sold out. Like you got one of the last tickets. So she was like, get here early so you can get a seat. I was like, Oh, holy shit. Oh, you guys don't have a sign seating there yet. No. So the, the cinema did have a sign seat. I actually sent them an email about this a couple of weeks ago. Um, they did have a sign seating.
00:37:39
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And they took it away. And I guess it's because in this particular cinema, they need the flexibility to move the films as they need to, day by day. So they won't be static in the same screen. They might have to move to screen two or screen three or screen one or whatever.
00:38:00
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So that's how it was explained to me. I wish it wasn't so because I really like assigned seating. I like order in my life. It literally has changed the game here in America. Yeah, but whatever. I had it for a minute anyway. So Late Night with the Devil.
00:38:15
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Late Night with the Devil stars David Das Malkien. What a last name he has. David Das Malkien and a bunch of other people, Laura Gordon, Ian Bliss, Faisal Basi, Ingrid Torelli, just a bunch of shit. Directed by Cameron Cairns and Colin Cairns. And this is about, David Das Malkien plays a talk show host, a late night talk show host, kind of like a Johnny Carson, kind of like a Jay Leno. It's in 1977.
00:38:42
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And this live broadcast that they are filming goes horribly wrong. And I won't give everything away. It's just fucking fun. So think WNUF, think Ghostwatch. It's the same kind of style. And it is really, really good. I had a blast watching it.
00:39:04
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Funny the funny thing for me when I was starting to watch the movie like when I'm in the cinema like I promise I don't like do weird things with my phone ever cuz I don't like that but like one like this weird little tradition that I have is as soon as the title comes on the screen I'll snap a really quick photo of it and I posted on Instagram. It's just what I do right so I got a new phone so all my settings had changed and
00:39:26
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Oh, no. So I fucking take that photo and this place is packed with people. What asshole has his flash go off in the cinema? This one right here.
00:39:40
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So I grabbed my phone, I just shoved it down and the guy next to me was laughing. It was pretty funny. But no, I say go to the cinema to see it because I think that horror fans, and those are the people that are going to go see this in the cinema, horror fans will have a great time with this. It's funny, it's spooky, it's a blast. People were laughing their asses off in the cinema. It was just a fun experience. So if you have the chance to see it at the show, go do it.
00:40:06
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I don't know if you saw the marketing, um, that came out about it at the weekend after opening. Um, they, they sent out a press release that said that it made 666,000 and six, you know, $666 at the box office. That's great. I'm like, I know that that's just marketing, but that's pretty funny. It's really good. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was wonderful. I, and I, I, I'm pretty sure you will love this.
00:40:30
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Yeah, I intend to see it, if not on the big screen when it goes to shutter. Yeah, for sure. The next one I have is on Netflix, a new arrival to Netflix. It's called There's Something in the Barn. This is led by Martin Stars. I don't know if you know who that is.
00:40:47
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I don't know. He was on that party down show. He shows up in a lot of things, but he's kind of just like a kind of like a nerdy guy. But the whole movie's present. Like the premise of it is that his family has inherited a house in Sweden. So they are all moving to Sweden. So it's a it's a man and wife and their two kids, a boy and a girl.
00:41:12
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And of course, it comes with like the tropes of like the girl doesn't want to leave her friends and like da da da da da. And they kind of go into it and Sweden is kind of like not as welcoming as they thought it would be because everyone says it's like the happiest place in the world and da da da da. And then what they have there on their property is a barn that they intend to turn into a short term rental. So like an Airbnb situation. But what happens when they start to try to
00:41:40
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renovate it. There may be something else living in the barn that they weren't expecting. It's pretty fun. It plays on some of the folklore of Sweden, which is always fun to see other countries' folklore. I had a lot of fun with it.
00:41:57
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It's really funny and then like it's one of those movies it's really funny but then unexpectedly bloody at certain situations like there's a part where a person gets run over by a snowmobile and gets caught in the tread.
00:42:13
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So if that sounds like something up your alley, I would definitely recommend it. There's something in the barn on Netflix. Lovely. So like I said, my next three are rewatches of TV shows that I am doing right now as we speak. I'm literally I'm actually watching them as I record this. No, not really. You know, what's funny about this is I just read an article about this and I really yeah.
00:42:35
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Um, I read an article that was like, when people are in crisis, they tend to watch things that they already know. So are you okay? Yeah, no, no, I'm good as far as I know. Thank God. Um, but that, that, you know, that doesn't surprise me to be honest at all. I think, you know, you, you look for comfort.
00:42:54
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Yeah. No, honestly, I don't know how I got it in me. I know, actually, I do know how I got it in me. I was looking on the Apple TV store, I don't know, like last week, I think, and they had some TV shows on sale. And one of them was Battlestar Galactica, which I really love, the newer one. And it used to be like 70 bucks on Apple because I mean, it's a lot of episodes.
00:43:21
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And it was like 20 bucks. I was like, oh, you know what? Just buy it. Just get it right now. And then I saw Mad Men. And I was like, oh, okay. I want that too. And then I saw the one I'll talk about right now, Friday Night Lights. And I was like, I absolutely have to have this immediately. And I was like, you know what? Let's just do a rewatch of all three. I'll watch a couple episodes on different nights, whatever. It'll be fun.
00:43:41
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So good to be the coach. Oh, my God. Friday Night Lights. OK, if you've never watched the show before, I'm obsessed with it. It is so, so wonderful. It is a it is a TV show that is based off of a book from what's his name? H.G. Bessinger, I'm pretty sure is the the author of the book. And then a movie, of course, that came out with Billy Bob Thornton and a bunch of other people, Tim McGraw's in it like a bunch of people are fucking in it. And then and then it became a TV show.
00:44:10
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The TV show, I think it was five seasons, I'm fairly sure. And that, of course, is, you know, back when back when TV was like, you know, 20, 20, 20, 20 episodes a season or whatever. So it is a lot of TV here. Really incredible stuff. I just I think that it's a really.
00:44:32
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I think it's a really cool look at America. The reason why I love Martin Scorsese is because I think he makes films that are about America. And I think Friday Night Lights is another little slice of America that might not make sense to a lot of people that don't live there.
00:44:51
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If you grew up in the kind of town that I grew up in, which is also a huge football town, where the high school football team meant everything to everybody, and where Friday nights were spent at Brickie Bowl in Hobart, Indiana, where my brother played football and went to the state championship, and we're like,
00:45:09
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everyone in the town had a great deal of pride about this about this team. It makes a lot of sense to me. Right. And so Friday Night Lights is the story of a town in Texas called Dylan, Dylan, Texas. There is a high school football team called the Dylan Panthers. And the first season is all about Coach Taylor becoming the coach and and his wife, Tammy Taylor, who is just God, I fucking love Tammy Taylor, Connie Britton fucking forever, dude.
00:45:37
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And Kyle Chandler plays Coach Taylor. Zach Guilford is in this, who is a big favorite of our friend Mike Flanagan. So just a really amazing crop of actors in this movie, in this show, went from 2006 to 2011. Every time I watch the show,
00:45:57
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I am like a waterfall of tears. They're like, it sounds like it's just about football. It's about so much more. Of course it is. And like, it's just, I don't know. It's an incredible show. Um, I absolutely love it. I adore it. I'm so glad I'm doing a rewatch of it right now. So Friday night lights, if you've never, ever, ever watched it, you should watch it. And if you haven't watched it in a long time, join me in my rewatch.
00:46:22
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All right. Um, my next one is on peacock for over here in the, in the good old U S of a, I'm not sure if it's on any of your things over there yet. Excuse me. Sorry. Um, this is called apples never fall. Um, this stars Annette Benning, Sam Neil, um, Alison Brie. There's a bunch of people in that's quite a cast. My goodness.
00:46:45
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Uh, and it's the story of, um, it's a story of a family and they're a tennis family. So the, the two parents met playing tennis and they opened up an academy for tennis. And it's just, it takes place in Florida. Like you said, it's kind of a slice of life that if you don't know about it, you don't really understand, but you can get it through this.
00:47:05
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And then one day, the matron of the house and that bedding goes missing. And none of the kids are living at home. They're all like doing their own thing. And the whole rest of the show is just about like, what happened to her? Like, did Sam Neil do something to her? Did one of the kids do something to her? Like,
00:47:24
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They can't really figure it out. And the way that the movie is structured is that every episode starts with a different person in the family. So it's like Patrick's story this time and then like Amy's story the next episode. And they do this thing where they kind of go now and then. And it kind of shows like what happened in the past that could lead to what happened in the now. It's by the same guy that wrote Big Little Lies. So.
00:47:49
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If you like that kind of a mystery, I think you'll really like this. I have two episodes left, so I honestly don't know how it ends quite yet. But I thought I would bring it to the show because it's first of all, because it's on Peacock. And I don't think everyone has access to Peacock and probably don't know about a lot of the shows on there, but they're going to know some pretty good stuff. And, you know, when I'm sorry, but when I say the names, Annette Bening and Sam Neil, your ears should perk up. Yeah, I mean, right there, it's enough, quite frankly.
00:48:18
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And honestly, Alison Brie is turning into one of my favorite actresses of of today. I think the choices that she makes and a lot of the stuff that she's doing is just so good. And she always sticks out for me in a lot of the stuff that she does. So that's Apples Never Fall on Peacock.
00:48:33
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Very cool. My next one is Battlestar Galactica, the reboot of the ancient TV show. This came back to television screens in 2004 and ran through 2009. There are approximately 8,000 episodes in this entire thing. There's so much television. I honestly don't know the entire runtime of the whole show.
00:48:59
Speaker
When you said those dates, now I know why I've never watched this show. This should be right up my alley, but when you say 2004, what did you say? 2009? Yes, I did. That's the college crazy years. So I didn't have any TV. Even for me, I didn't start watching this until much, much later. I didn't start it until
00:49:21
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So one of my best friends, John, he was really into it. I heard about it from him. And then I had another friend, Sydney, who really liked it. And then I was like, oh, I'll just give it a shot. And I think it must have been on something because I didn't have a lot of money then. I probably started watching it in like 2008, I would say maybe 2009, 10, somewhere in there. So it was already over by the time that I watched it. Well, that was DVD culture right there. Bingo. I had to buy the DVD set. And so I don't have the DVDs anymore.
00:49:50
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decided to buy it now, like I said earlier. Battle Strike Alactica is the story of humans and Cylons. Cylons are sort of like cybernetic beings that look like robots, and humans created them. Cylons eventually rebelled and tried to destroy humans. They had a truce, and the Cylons went away, somewhere far away, for many, many years, for 40 years, until one day they come back.
00:50:20
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And that's where Battlestar Galactica begins. And so it becomes this battle, this sort of like second war between the humans and Cylons. The Cylons go fucking ape shit on humanity, destroy a bunch of worlds, just nuke everything. And this is just the story of how it all happens.
00:50:37
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It is an incredible show. It's an incredible show that really delves into so much. It delves into how humans govern themselves. It delves into what power looks like. It delves into sex and gender. It delves into violence. It delves into so many different topics that are just fun to explore in a show like this, to explore in fantasy.
00:51:02
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Edward James Olmos heads up the cast as Captain, as Captain, as Admiral Adama, pardon me. Mary McDonnell is in it as President Roslyn, Jamie Bamber, Trisha Helfer, Katie Sackhoff. This is what I think really made Katie Sackhoff known as Starbuck. Aaron Douglas, a bunch of people are in this fucking show. And it really is wonderful. If you're not into fantasy stuff, if you would never ever like Star Trek,
00:51:31
Speaker
You're not going to like Battlestar Galactica. So like don't watch it. But if you've never watched it before and you're like, yeah, I can dig a little bit of Star Trek in my life. Yes, you're going to dig at a show. I love it. I'm glad I'm watching it again. I think this is actually my third rewatch. I'm really sure. And it is an incredible show once again. I'm into it. Cool. Yeah, that's always that's always one that I've meant to go back and watch. So maybe I'll see what what the availability of it is. Do it.
00:51:58
Speaker
All right, my next one is a movie that I don't think I really heard many people talk about. It's called Dark Harvest. It's on Shutter or AMC Plus, wherever you get your your familiar. I think it was a Shutter original, if I'm thinking right, when I saw the credits and they kind of like, you know, the Shutter logo comes up and whatever. But I don't know if maybe this just came out in a you know what might have happened. This might have come out around Halloween time because it's a very Halloween centric movie.
00:52:27
Speaker
And it maybe just got steamrolled by a bunch of other stuff. You know what I mean? Cause Halloween is like tour central. Sure. Um, so this, this movie is about an isolated town in Illinois. Um, and they, every year a man called Sawtooth Jack comes back from the dead and there is a festival of the high school boys. I think that you have to be senior boy.
00:52:51
Speaker
Um, and they have to go out and kill Sawtooth Jack. This takes place in the sixties, by the way. And whoever kills Sawtooth Jack gets to, uh, they get like a house for their family. They get a car and they get like a money. So it's kind of like,
00:53:08
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Kind of like Hunger Games, like where if you win, you get all this stuff. I mean, but you're also risking your life because Sawtooth Jack is like an otherworldly being with like powers and stuff. So you kind of got to take your chances. And this is this movie is about that festival a year after this boy wins and he he leaves and goes to California, leaving behind his little brother, who is now up for kind of the Sawtooth Jack Festival. And so it's all about
00:53:36
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him trying to not avenge, trying to follow in his brother's footsteps about winning the festival. So this movie was great. It was really unexpected, looked really good, was really good acting. The special effects
00:53:52
Speaker
They're they're good, but there are a couple of times where you see CGI where you're like, come on, but, you know, whatever. It's a low, low budget movie. But I would encourage everyone to go back and check out Dark Harvest on Shutter. Cool. My final one is Mad Men.
00:54:08
Speaker
Another classic show that I am rewatching. Another show that also has about 8,000 episodes to it. The story of Don Draper as an ad man played by Jon Hamm in the era of the Mad Men. Really incredible TV show. Have you watched it?
00:54:31
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I've watched probably i think the first four seasons i've never finished it you should absolutely finish it like that andrew the finale is one of the best things ever filmed it's so good. The final moments of the show which i will not go into if you've never watched it before. Are picture perfect like this absolute perfection i adore the show.
00:54:53
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Mad Men is just a really special, once again, slice of Americana. It looks at the time when my dad would have been started in business. And when I see old photos of my dad in his suit and hanging around a big, huge conference table with a smoke and a drink in his hand, it makes me just wonder what it had to have been like for my dad when he was really starting in business. It's just wild to think about.
00:55:18
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But it's an amazing show it's it's i think it's an american phenomenon i think people really really love the show. And so do i think some of the episodes were were just incredible some of the episodes left me really shaken by the things that that occurred on screen.
00:55:37
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and left me, I don't know, I think the end also left me really inspired. I think at the very end, this show is a show about redemption, it's a show about change, and I think that's really laudable. So I'm not gonna go into it, everyone knows about Mad Men, but there's that. Now Andrew, I do have a bonus for you right now. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, bonus. It's just in. You've heard of the, or you probably listened to the podcast called Spooked.
00:56:04
Speaker
I haven't actually. Oh, really? Oh, I didn't know you don't know about this. No. So Spooked comes from NPR. I forget the name of the host right now for the life of me. I'm sorry, host. But Spooked has been around for a long time. Spooked is a podcast slash NPR radio show out of New York.
00:56:22
Speaker
Um, we're basically like he just has a person on for every episode that tells some sort of spooky story that actually happened to them. That's it. Um, and so, uh, it's, it's, it's been around for many years now. You should definitely go listen, Andrea. You'll, you'll adore this show.
00:56:38
Speaker
But the latest two episodes are really, really good. This is, it's called The Tagalong Part 1 and Part 2. All I'll say is this, it's about a young woman in England, in Hornsey, who meets a friend at school. I'll leave it there. But these two episodes were fucking
00:57:01
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Awesome. So so good. And we don't usually plug podcasts on here. But I will definitely plug plug this one, especially for these two episodes. So if you have not heard the tag along parts one and two, go listen to those wherever you listen to podcasts.
00:57:16
Speaker
Cool. Yeah, I'll check that out. All right. Well, that does it for what you've been watching, bitch. Maddie brought us late night with the devil Friday night lights, Battlestar Galactica and Mad Men. I'm sure you can find all those somewhere. Just just Google it. There's a great app called what is it called? Like listen up or something like that. It's called. Oh, God, we're so bad at this. Watch. Let's watch.
00:57:39
Speaker
Yeah. You just Google it. Whatever. Watcher. It's called. It's like Grindr. It's called Watcher. No, I'm joking. It's not. Um, and Andrew brought a slay. There's something in the barn. Apples never fall and dark harvest. So folks, that is another edition of what you've been watching, bitch. Let's take a quick break here and we'll be right back with our first film of the episode. I still know what you did last summer.
00:58:10
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After what happened last summer,
00:58:22
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Nobody deserves a vacation more than Julie James. We have arrived in paradise. And here, miles from civilization. To a great weekend? Yeah, to a great weekend for me. She's finally gotten away from it all. I should've changed that stupid lock. I should've made Julie the key. If I'd have known for just one second, you'd be back to bother me. Don't do the lyrics. Hold on.
00:58:50
Speaker
You did something to the screen. I said, what are you talking about? But she can never escape her past. It's happening again. What? Because there are some secrets. There was a body in there. Who? I am not going crazy. He's here. Who? Who is here?
00:59:10
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And there are some fears. Hey, Julie, you see any dead bodies out there? Two summers ago, we hit Ben Willis with our car and then we threw his body in the water. Don't you not tell me the whole story. I'm your best friend. That will haunt her forever. I want off this island. That's not possible. It's time.
00:59:46
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Hey Ben, come and get me, I'm right here! I got this. I still know what you did last summer. Get hooked again.
01:00:00
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You better watch it because I still know, I still know what you did in that season that Andrew's going to tell us about right now. Andrew, tell us about it. Someone is dying for a second chance. Ever since killing the fisherman one year ago, Julie James is still haunted by images of him after her.
01:00:21
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When her best friend Carla wins free tickets to the Bahamas, Julie finds a perfect opportunity to finally relax. But someone is waiting for her. Someone who she thought was dead. Someone who is out again for revenge.
01:00:37
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Directed by Danny Cannon, written by Trey Callaway. Production and distribution was handled by Mandalay Bay in Columbia Pictures. Julie is played by Jennifer Love Hewitt. Ray is played by Freddie Prinze Jr. Carla is played by Brandy Norwood.
01:00:57
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Tyrell is played by Mackay Pfeiffer. Ben is played by Muse Watson. Estes is played by Bill Cobbs. Will is played by Matthew Settle. Mr. Brooks is played by Jeffrey Combs. Sorry. Nancy is played by Jennifer Esposito. And Dave is played by John Hawks with a untitled or what do you call it when they're not in the credits, uncredited Titus played by Jack Black.
01:01:24
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Rated R, this comes in at 100 minutes. It was filmed in LA and El Tamarindo, Jalisco, Mexico. The budget was released on November 13th of 1998. $65 million budget brought in $40 million. That's probably why there's not, well, there is an, I always know you did that summer, but it has nothing to do with these people. So don't watch that movie. It's very bad. But Maddie, what is your relationship with, I still know what you did last summer.
01:01:53
Speaker
uh you know i was kind of struggling to remember if i had watched this before and i'm sure that i did um however it's a fairly forgettable sequel if we're being honest um i'm not a huge fan of this movie whereas like the the the the initial in this uh little mini franchise um is one of our favorites you can hear it in our opening uh it's still in there isn't it what are you waiting for
01:02:20
Speaker
No, that was in our original credits. Oh, well, it was in our original credit song or whatever you want to call that our credit opener thing, whatever. So I mean, look, we have a love for the original. I know what you did last summer. I still know what you did last summer is I mean, even just by the title alone, Andrew.
01:02:41
Speaker
it's a little much you know what i mean like i mean like come on dude like enough um and then wait with the third one is what what is it i'll always know what you did last summer yeah yeah and and there's there's a tv show that i saw too correct yeah that one is a complete reboot though like it has nothing to do with any of this i i did see that on on i think it's on amazon prime i watched it i liked it
01:03:03
Speaker
I haven't watched it, and I saw this the same day that I was watching this film for the show, of course, and I was like, oh, maybe I'll come back and watch that. And I might, especially if you say that you liked it. Yeah, it's fun. If you ever watched like the MTV Scream series, it's kind of very much in that kind of echo chamber. All right, I'm into that. So yeah, I mean, like, look, I just don't think it was a movie that needed to be
01:03:26
Speaker
Made in the first place I think it was an attempt at creating a franchise like scream that just didn't work out and I think that you know there's a lot of astute observations on letterbox and reviews about this that like the very premise of the film is off from the very it gives it away nearly immediately
01:03:47
Speaker
Because when I say about that man when what's her face when Carla wins the tickets? Who's this? Don't you just miss Brandi Brandi? She she she's the highlight of the movie. Oh, yeah, and Brandi was always she's just so cute Just such a cute young person and Freddie Prinze jr. By the way, the only reason peak like he
01:04:08
Speaker
When he is walking down that dock with that shirt kind of open, holy fucking instant boner material. I am in love with Freddie Prinze Jr. I'm in love with him now. I was in love with him then. I will be in love with him forever. Anyway, this is like in the first in the first I know he did last summer, he was still kind of like boyish. You know what I mean? He looks like a man. He's a man. He is ready to do things to you, which is good.
01:04:34
Speaker
So anyways, this film's premise is ridiculous. Carla wins these tickets, right? Because she gets a phone call on the landline, which is just funny to see anyway. But a phone call on the landline, it's their favorite radio station, whatever it is. And you're going to win tickets to the Bahamas. All you have to tell us is what is the capital of Brazil?
01:04:55
Speaker
And they're going nuts. Jennifer Love Huge Tits and Carla are going nuts together trying to figure it out. And Julie runs to the kitchen, grabs a bag of Brazilian coffee and throws it to Carla because apparently it says on their Rio de Janeiro, which they think is the capital of Brazil, it's not. The capital of Brazil is Brasilia. That is the capital of Brazil. And you learn this again later in the movie if you didn't know that. But I was watching it and I was like,
01:05:22
Speaker
No, which gives it away right from the beginning. Now, that being said, a bunch of young people going to the cinema to watch this in 1998, they're not gonna know that. None of them know that Brazil is the fucking capital of Brazil, I can guarantee you. In fact, the only place that could maybe name in Brazil would be Rio de Janeiro. Anyways, that just gives it away right from the start. And then moving on from there,
01:05:46
Speaker
I don't know, like everything that happens I just kind of don't care about if I'm being honest. Like when they get to the hotel and when they kind of dig in and any of the sort of like playful antics between Mackay Pfeiffer and Brandy and with what's his name Matthew Settle and Jennifer Love Hewitt, I just sort of don't care. And then Titus is actually kind of fun.
01:06:10
Speaker
I definitely forgot that Jack Black was in this movie, which is the strangest casting of the entire movie. And I can't really remember what Jack Black shit came out around then. For the life of me, I can't remember 1998 very well.
01:06:28
Speaker
But Jack Black just suddenly showing up as this total stoner with dreadlocks trying to sell drugs to everybody is actually kind of hilarious. When he pops up later in the pool, I did start laughing pretty hard. That was actually really funny. He just pops up out of nowhere while they're trying to have a very intimate moment.
01:06:48
Speaker
That part stressed me out because his weed cigarette keeps going in the pool and I'm like, that's done, but they can't use this thing. Also, can we talk about this pool? So like, Mackay Pfeiffer and Brandi are in this like hot tub thing or whatever, right? Which they call a jacuzzi.
01:07:05
Speaker
And it's not bubbling at all. Like it's just, it's just like flat water. So I'm like, it's not a Jacuzzi. It's just, you're just sitting in water. That's all you're doing. But like when, when the camera comes over to that part of it, to the pool, there's all those candles around it. All I could think of was who the fuck lit those candles? Like in the off season. Right. In the off season, a storm is about to come in and like,
01:07:29
Speaker
That no one did that you don't even anyways so yeah i don't know like i think for me watching this for whatever time this is watching it for me it's probably time number two. I think just the fact that the premise was not so great right from the beginning sort of just like rub me very much the wrong way and gave it away like you know it's gonna be wrong almost immediately.
01:07:51
Speaker
There's not enough Freddie Prinze Jr. in this movie. I think John Hawks, I totally forgot he was in this movie. John Hawks as Dave is in it for like a second. John Hawks is a fucking amazing actor. Really, really good. And it was actually pretty cool to see him in this as like very much not John Hawks in his usual shit. So it was interesting to sort of like see like, oh God, when did he really develop into what he really became?
01:08:18
Speaker
So I don't know. Did you notice that he gets like his death is almost exactly the same thing from the first one where they get it through the jaw? Oh, yeah. I didn't think about the death of the movie. It was interesting. So I mean, look, I'm clearly I'm not going to be a fan of the film. Right. And I'm not I'm not going to hammer on about that, I promise. But like it just wasn't my most fun watch if I'm being real with you.
01:08:41
Speaker
It does make me want to go back and watch the original because I haven't watched that in a long time. Andrew reminded me not since we talked about it in 2018 on this show. So I'm looking forward to going back and watching that absolute banger of a classic. But this one, it really just falls flat for me.
01:08:58
Speaker
Yeah, so this one, listen, I'm going to point out a lot of things that are wrong with this movie. I have to do it. It's my job on this podcast. And we get paid a lot of money for this. Oh, yeah, so much. I'm thinking about quitting my job. No, I'm just joking. I'm eating chicken while we're doing this. Go ahead.
01:09:18
Speaker
Um, so on surface level, when I saw this movie in 1998, I thought it was so much fun. Loved it. Like ate it up. Like just because like, I don't know, like back in the late nineties, when all these kind of like late oncoming slashers were coming out, like in, you know, scream urban legend, I know you did last summer, Valentine, all these movies that were coming out, I ate them up with a spoon. Like I couldn't get enough to just give me more, give me more, give me more.
01:09:46
Speaker
And so I still know he did last summer on the surface level. I still have a lot of fun with like, if I just watch it and don't think about things, I think it's really fun. And I think that there's actually like a lot of really like funny, like little like jabs in there that I mean, I don't, I mean, Andrew, I was 16 when this came out. How old were you? Uh, so I would have been 14, 14. So like, of course we loved it.
01:10:09
Speaker
Yeah. But when I start to like just go a little bit below the surface, there's not much sense in this movie. And by below the surface, you mean like one centimeter below the surface. I guess you don't have to go very far. If you just think about how they win the tickets. I'm sorry. What radio station is randomly calling people to. No, no, no. You call the radio station.
01:10:34
Speaker
anyone in the 90s knew how those things worked. So there's that, first of all, the second, like,
01:10:43
Speaker
There's just so many things. So, like, I'll just point out a couple of things. There's a part where Ray has broken out of the hospital because he was in an accident where, you know, Dave gets killed and he sneaks out of the hospital to, like, go, you know, find Julie, go to the Bahamas and get rid of the slicker man. But he has a prescription.
01:11:10
Speaker
You don't like he has prescription pills and I just I'm like that that's not how that works and like There's just so many like little things like that, but I'm like, no, that's not how that works. Tell us more Andrew, please tell us more. Come on.
01:11:26
Speaker
There's like there's certain parts where and I don't know if like I don't know when Ben or I'm sorry when will is doing stuff and when Ben is doing stuff like I don't know like when they kind of trade off on like who's killing who or like there's no way to tell.
01:11:43
Speaker
And I do think that at the beginning, it is a lot of Julie's psychosis, which the movie likes to tell us where she's surprised that she's like, oh, it's one year later. And I'm like, Julie, half your friend group was killed. Of course, you were going to know when it's July 4th. And like, girl, it was a year. I thought it was 10 years ago.
01:12:08
Speaker
Like you went through a fucking massacre. You're going to need a solid 20 years to get out of it, babe. You know what I mean? Not 12 months. And and I listen, I know that I know that this isn't truly a spring break movie, but listen, pickings are slim and this goes off spring break energy. So whatever. Do with it what you will.
01:12:29
Speaker
But then there's parts in it where there's a part where they're checking into their rooms, and Estes is kind of talking with Julie and Will. And Will says to him, he goes, oh, you've obviously been working here a long time. And what does Estes say? Oh, before you were even a glean in your father's eye. So they're giving it away at so many points.
01:12:58
Speaker
We'll talk a little bit more about some of the stuff that happens in the movie, but I have to go to this crazy, weird selling of a twist in this movie because the twist on its own that Will is in on it is actually pretty good. I was surprised when he does the whole, it's not my blood. I remember being like, oh shit.
01:13:20
Speaker
But Ben, Ben, son,
Critique of 'I Still Know What You Did Last Summer'
01:13:22
Speaker
and son. And then they do that shit. Then they do that shit, where he's like, you don't get it, Julie. Will Benson. Ben's son. And I'm like, that's so stupid. Who was the writer, Trey Calloway? Trey Calloway really had to stretch that big old brain to make that one up, didn't he?
01:13:40
Speaker
Yeah. And they also do this thing at the, sorry to keep flipping around, but they also do this thing at the beginning where she has a dream at the beginning and kind of wakes up and screams her, you know, Julie James scream. And then Will goes after her and she's like, I had another, I had a dream. I haven't had one of those in a while. And he's like, Oh, is it the one in the shower? And I'm like, Oh, that's how they're going to explain away the ending of the first one.
01:14:05
Speaker
So there's that. But there's just so many things like, you know, the radio station, you know, they're going in the off season like it's about just like storm. This just happens to be where where Ben Willis magically all of a sudden has a family we didn't know about. And he kills his wife.
01:14:24
Speaker
They don't ever say what happened to the daughter. So I'm wondering if that was something they were going to try to do in the third one, because I know that this was planned to be more movies after this. And I have heard a little bit of rumblings that they might be doing a legacy sequel to where they really like where they bring back Julie James and Ray and kind of like bring back the original cast and do something with that. I don't know what I would watch it. I would watch it to fuck with it. I would fuck with it.
01:14:53
Speaker
You know, like back in the day, like I know you did last summer was my jam. Like I liked it more than scream at one point. Yeah. Oh my God. I can't imagine an Andrew that like this more than scream.
01:15:05
Speaker
Um, oh, I did like, so I do think that this movie, because if you watch, I know you did that summer and we talked about this when we talked about it on the show, it's a sad movie. Like it is a depressing movie. Like no joy is found in that movie. Whereas in this one, they do have a little bit more fun with it. Like, yeah, I like what I like when they're on the plane and, um,
01:15:27
Speaker
Uh, Mackay Fiverr says to like, Oh, some folks can't fly. And then they cut to the boat where Mackay Fiverr is puking and, um, Will's like, Oh, some folks can't sail. And I was like, Oh, that's kind of funny. As ever there, there are always some funny letterbox reviews on here. Do you want to hear a couple of them? Yeah, sure. Here's one. This one comes from, Oh, come on mouse work.
01:15:49
Speaker
Oh, where's it? Where'd it go? Here it is. This one comes from Kammotz. Kammotz gave it half a star and says, this is just Scooby Doo, but complete garbage. There's one here from Lucy who gives it two stars and says, this review may contain spoilers. Jack Black, three question marks.
01:16:08
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Here's one from somebody that we know, Keith Dooley. Keith Dooley says, Keith gave it one star, says, I wasn't a huge fan of the first film, but the sequel makes that movie look like a classic. The suspense is non-existent and the director and writer rely on groan-worthy cliches and stunning predictability as clutches throughout. Here's the funny part. Jennifer Love Hewitt and Freddie Prinze Jr. are atrocious actors that make Brandi and Mackay Pfeiffer look almost Shakespearean.
01:16:39
Speaker
Oh, it's funny. Horror legend, horror legend Jeffrey Combs is sort of better than this. And Jack Black is correct in being embarrassed about his performance here. Yeah, I will say that this was of the era where Jennifer Love Hewitt was trying to become a legitimate recording artist. Oh, my God. I forgot about that. Holy shit. Well, her song plays in the movie. It plays really with you. How do I deal with me? That whole song, you know, it's another one of those movies, too, where I'm like,
01:17:07
Speaker
And back to what Keith was saying about the suspense is non existent. Like the killer, you could have just killed them at any time. Like what is the point of waiting around to kill them? Just get your job done efficiently, quite frankly. Like you're going to kill everyone anyway. Instead, you're making this wait a full, what is this, 100 minutes? I mean, they all could have been killed very easily and they weren't. And that is another plot hole that you're just like, why? What's the fucking point?
01:17:36
Speaker
Um, I just go back to her singing for a moment. Um, it's funny because there's the whole, the name of the song is, um, I think it's called deal with you or deal or something like that. There's, there's a part at the beginning where her and Will are talking and she's like, I just, I just have to deal with it. And I was like, Oh, is that a plug for your song?
01:17:56
Speaker
And then the song plays like 10 minutes later, but it's funny. And then and then they they have to have had to this couldn't have been in the original script to where they make her sing karaoke, because then she gets to show off her singing in the karaoke scene as well. Yeah. And Nancy and Nancy correctly, the bartender correctly points out everyone's a goddamn singer these days. Yeah.
01:18:21
Speaker
I will say Nancy played by Jennifer Esposito. She was the Helen Shivers for me in this movie. Andrew, did you know that Peter Jackson, Peter fucking Jackson was asked to direct this movie?
01:18:37
Speaker
Well, I mean in this time period was he doing Lord of the Rings yet? Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh, he was. Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no. Wait, was he just starting to? Is that it? Maybe? Maybe that's it. Yeah, because his early career is very horror oriented was so it makes sense to me. Um, but it would have been probably a little bit of a better movie. Sorry. Sorry. Probably would have been. Yeah.
01:19:00
Speaker
Um, a couple of other things that I wanted to point out. Um, Oh no, the Lord of Brings was 2001. So it was just after that. Um, I'm sorry. How many times does Carla have to go through glass and like through shelves? Like Jennifer Love Hewitt like gets like dragged at one point while Carla, the, the best friend who the killer is not even really after, if you're being honest, is like tortured throughout the entire
01:19:29
Speaker
her movie only to show up in the last part of the movie limping towards the happy couple because it's been through it through this entire movie. Girl got dragged in this movie. Yeah. Also, the director of the initial film Jim Gillespie spoke out against the sequel that lacked his involvement. And he said, I thought it wasn't the right story. I didn't like the premise. It kind of killed the franchise a little bit. They had a chance to do something a bit different. And for me, it didn't work.
01:19:59
Speaker
Yeah, one other part that I cannot figure out, and maybe you can help me, maybe not, but there's a part, it's the part where Makai Pfeiffer's character, Ray, or not Ray, I'm sorry, Tyrell is killed. They're standing in a kitchen. He is backed up to the stove.
01:20:19
Speaker
And all that's above him is the giant, like, hood. You know what I mean? Like the hood that all the smoke goes out of. Somehow the killer sneaks up behind him and stabs him in the throat, which it's a good gag. It's like a good, like, gag and good, like, jump scare. But like, where did he come from? I guess from the hood. But.
01:20:40
Speaker
How the hell do I get in the exhaust hood? That's what I mean. There's just so many parts of this. Listen, it's going to sound like I hate this movie. I don't hate this movie. I just think it's kind of dumb. Yeah, it's not that I hate it. I just I never want to watch it again. You know, it's funny. The one part that I the part that I did like besides the like it's not my blood is I do like the part where they go in town to the storm shelter and Julie's like, Carla, just hold my hand. Just hold my hand.
01:21:10
Speaker
And Carl's like, I am holding her hand. And Julie's like, no, you're not. And then the lights come on and it's all the dead bodies and she's holding a hand of a dead body. Another part that I was like, Julie, this is why you're just not a very good final girl is where she picks up the gun and she finally shoots Ben and she's like, just fucking die. But she neglects to shoot him in the head ever. So if he was a if he was wearing a bulletproof vest and dead and I'm like, I'm an idiot.
01:21:38
Speaker
Follow the follow the Sydney Prescott way of living and shoot him in the fucking head, you stupid girl. The fucking truth. Oh, my God. Also, the part where fucking where Carla like breaks into her apartment to borrow the skirt at the beginning, I was like, who the fuck would ever do that? That's so that's so well, they live together. They're roommates. Oh, right. Never mind.
01:22:03
Speaker
No, no, no. But what doesn't make sense is that she why shouldn't why wouldn't she turn on any lights if she was going to be home alone? Exactly. It's like, come on. It's just that that whole scene didn't work for me, clearly. Yeah. And then like what's supposed to give? Sorry, I feel like I'm getting really negative on this movie. But the more I think about it, the more silly it is allowed to. We have a podcast.
01:22:24
Speaker
Um, there's a really like suspenseful part where Julie gets, um, locked in a tanning bed, which should be terrifying, but she's only there for like five minutes. My God girls, like just settle down. We'll get you out of there. It's just a zip tie that's holding it on there. Although I do understand that, that, that fear, I've only done tanning beds like three times in my life when I was young and I just couldn't do them because I was terrified that I would get stuck in it somehow.
01:22:54
Speaker
Mm-hmm found destination three did it right there. Yep. There you go
01:22:58
Speaker
All right. Well, I think that we've we've beaten this dead horse. I think it's dead. Stop it. He's dead already. Yes. So here at Frankie, the 13th horror podcast, we create on a seven stripe scale for the seven stripes of the gay old rainbow. Maddie, what do you give? I still know what you did last summer. Surprisingly, I was I gave it a generous four from being honest. And my takeaway here was just why? Thank God for Freddie Prinze Jr.
01:23:26
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Yeah, and I gave it a 4.5. I
Review of 'Club Dread'
01:23:28
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said, I really like the more tongue-in-cheek approach to this sequel, but ultimately the plot is so paper thin and the twist is ruined by the delivery of it. Yeah. Well, that does it for I Still Know What You Did Last Summer. We'll be right back with our next film of the episode, Club Dread. The warped minds behind Super Troopers.
01:23:48
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You can't pull over any farther. You know how fast you're going? 65? 63. Used to be the fuzz. If it's the time, are you ready to party? Now they're catching the buzz. So you came here to escape civilization, and we're going to hold you to it. In this tropical paradise... I'm Lars Branchorst. I'm the new masseur. We swapped out a six-foot Swedish bra for this guy. I'm 6'1".
01:24:16
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Everyone's got to stick together. Oh, dude, check out that. Dude, don't be gay, man. If they don't want to get whacked... What is it? Too waxy?
01:24:32
Speaker
and they're either getting killed. Are you telling me there's some totally deranged dude running around out there? Or getting lucky? Is it too much to ask? Have sex with the guests. There's somewhat more man-looking. There's Putman, the tennis pro. You've got your arms around me, Jenny. I can only assume this means every other man on the island is dead. Juan, the dive master. That is a beautiful name. Pinalope. Lars, the masseur. I can see how tight you are from a mile away. What can I say? Some girls are just tighter than others. Sam, the fun police.
01:25:04
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If you're the killer, that's cool. Just, you know, don't kill me. It could be anyone. If you're dying for a vacation, join the club.
01:25:34
Speaker
We're going on spring break and this time we're going to a little place called Club Dread. Maddie talked to us all about Club Dread. A vacation to die for. When a serial killer interrupts the fun at the swanky Coconut Pete's Coconut Beach Resort, a hedonistic island paradise for swingers, it's up to the club staff to stop the violence.
01:25:57
Speaker
or at least to hide it. Club Dread directed by J. Chandra Sekhar. There we go. The writer was Broken Lizard, which is the comedy group that made this. Production company was Broken Lizard, distributed by Fox Searchlight. Jenny, played by Brittany Daniel. Lars, played by Kevin Heffernan.
01:26:16
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Sam by Eric Stolonsky, it must be. Juan by Steve Lemmy. Putman by Jay Chandrasekhar. Dave by Paul Soter. Pete by Bill Paxton. Rest in peace. We miss you, Bill Paxton.
01:26:32
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Hank by MC Ganey, you by Lindsay Price, Trevor by Greg Sipes, Roy by Michael Weaver, Manny by Nat Faxon, Penelope or Penelope, however you want to pronounce it, by Jordan Ladd, and Dirk played by Sam Levine. And look, there's a lot of other people in this cast.
01:26:52
Speaker
it is a gigantic cast i was not gonna list them all uh rated r it's 103 minutes made in usa and mexico uh released february 27th of 2004 filmed in the exact same fucking spot as our last film
01:27:08
Speaker
El Tamarindo in Jalisco, Mexico. Budget was $8.6 million, brought in $7.6 million. And we did not plan that, folks. We just discovered it as we got on the call. That's just how it goes. I guess we're going to have to go to El Tamarindo now. Andrew, this is a first watch for me. I don't know if it was for you. Tell me all about it.
01:27:27
Speaker
Yeah, no i've seen this before this is this is of a time so if you remember correctly broken lizard is responsible for movies like super troopers beer fest like a lot of those kind of like wacky comedy movie here so my god.
01:27:45
Speaker
And this was kind of their foray into horror, but also like like horror comedy. And so like I remember I remember being really excited for this movie to come out. And at the time, I thought it was pretty funny. I think for me on this watch, I still laughed quite a bit. And I kind of forgot like how gory some parts actually are, which was surprising to me.
01:28:09
Speaker
Um, but then there were like some parts because like comedy in 2004 was still kind of in, um, how do I put it on woke era? Yeah, it was still kind of mean. You know what I mean? Like I was totally mean. Um, so some of the jokes don't necessarily land for like modern ears, but I mean, overall, I love little like stupid movies where like that they know what kind of movie they're making. So they just kind of go for it. And so yeah, fair enough.
01:28:36
Speaker
I kind of appreciate a movie like Club Dread where they kind of just go hog wild and just throw everything in. Some of it sticks, some of it doesn't. And we can talk more about it. But what were your initial thoughts on watching Club Dread? Yeah, I'm sure I must have heard of this before. And I don't know, maybe I even did see it a long time ago. I didn't really remember.
01:28:59
Speaker
But I definitely don't remember it at all. It is a stupid movie. There's no other way to describe this. It's made for people who enjoy watching stupid movies, quite frankly. Like you said, like beer fest and that kind of thing. That's what this is.
01:29:16
Speaker
I kind of forgot that Broken Lizard even existed, to be honest. And I certainly, you know, I really do mean it. I miss Bill Paxton quite a bit. I think he was really just a fantastic actor. And I was remarking to Andrew before we started recording this segment that like Bill Paxton had so much left in him. He really did. And like when he died, how old was he when he died? Do you remember?
01:29:40
Speaker
Um, I think he was in his fifties and that's like scant fifties. I would imagine. I mean, the dude was fucking cool. So like if the, the, the, this was not a movie for me, that that's just it period. But like watching Bill Paxton in this was actually a lot of fun and like watching them have fun in this movie too. Oh, you mean, you mean coconut Pete.
01:30:02
Speaker
Yeah, by blank coconut beans. Even the name is fucking ridiculous. It was funny. It's not my thing, but there's a lot of fun parts to this. It was an enjoyable watch. It's definitely also a watch, if I'm being honest, that you can put on in the background and just
01:30:21
Speaker
Let it go. It's a good party movie, I would say. You know, it's like, let it go. There's some funny parts to it. There's some boobs, whatever. And like, there it is. Yeah. But in general, it is dumb. The plot is ridiculous. You don't even have to really know the plot, quite frankly. And it just kind of plays. And I think that the best parts of this movie are by far
01:30:41
Speaker
the Coconut Pete songs, which are fucking ridiculous, and all the Jimmy Buffett references, which is funny because Broken Lizard did screen this film for Jimmy Buffett personally. And Jimmy Buffett was so amused, this trivia says, that he requested permission to sing some of the songs on his tours.
01:31:04
Speaker
So especially I talked about this before, like I was really into Jimmy Buffett for a minute. It was a weird time in my life. So like watching Coconut Pete do this, I just thought it was hilarious. So like I said, it's really not my kind of movie in general. I would never really seek this one out, but there are some fun parts. I love Bill Paxton and it was generally fun to watch.
01:31:27
Speaker
Yeah, some of my favorite parts with the the coconut peat part is where the drunk girls at the fire fire and she's like, play Margarita. Yeah, he's like, it's what is it? It's Pina Colada Burger or something. Something like that. You mean you mean my hit song, Pina Colada Burger, Pina Colada. And the song that they're singing when they come into that is Pony Tails and Cocktails, which I thought was really funny. And when he when he walks away from the fire and he goes,
01:31:55
Speaker
mother mother fucker son of a son of a bitch like that's some funny shit it really is um at the beginning i thought that there was a really funny part where the you know the one guy gets his head chopped off and the two girls run away and um it's really funny because they both go running and the one girl goes over here and then the other girl goes this way and then they'd split off from each other
01:32:19
Speaker
I actually thought that was really funny. I think that they know what they're doing and you know this by the setup of all the red herrings because upon arriving at the island there's kind of this moment where each character kind of gets like a little bit of a diss and then like the camera slows down and the music gets sinister for a second and you're like maybe that's the inciting incident.
01:32:40
Speaker
and they play that back at the end to where you figure out who the killer is and he says like, do you remember that first day on the dock? Well, that guy said that he didn't have weed, but then I found him in the forest and he did have weed. Oh wait, that's not why I'm doing this. I thought that that was funny. I think the whole penelope thing is really, really funny, but really stupid. It's so dumb that it actually works.
01:33:08
Speaker
I like the set up. Yeah, I like the set up of machete Phil and where they they tell that story. And then that guy, it tuxes. And that boy was me. I like the there's the one funny. I think the one set up of the human Pac-Man kind of thing. I thought that that was really fun. And I was like, oh, that would be kind of fun to actually play. And there's one. Go ahead. Go ahead.
01:33:36
Speaker
Did you have something to say about that? No, no, no, no. Go ahead. There's one character in this name. Her name is YU, which is you in the movie. Yeah. But they play with that so much. And I don't know why. I just thought it was so funny. Did you really? Yeah. But there's like a part where, um, and her in her. It's so funny because for someone who was definitely not a stoner, you love stoner shit.
01:34:00
Speaker
I know. I was thinking about when I was because I was not stoned when I watch it, surprisingly. But I was like, God, this movie actually would be great if I were stoned. It really would have been. Well, no, there's two parts that I thought were really funny where they play on her name. There's a part where they're like, quiet you. And she's like, but that's my name.
01:34:19
Speaker
And then there's another part. There's another part where Juan comes in and he's trying to tell Bill Paxton that who is it that Roy and you are dead? Bill Paxton's like, are you are you are you threatening me? Because he's saying like, you know, I was so dumb, but it was so funny.
01:34:40
Speaker
Um, I think that her death use death is really comical because she tries so hard and she gets in that golf cart and it only goes like five miles an hour. So the killer can just like really just like walk right up next to her.
01:34:59
Speaker
Um, I like the part where they're putting him into the drunk tank because they think that he's, they think that Lars is the killer. And, um, are you, and he goes, are you familiar with the term sitting duck? And one just goes, no, and just closes the door. That's the thing. Like, I mean, even like you recounted some of these moments back, like it's clear how much fucking fun this movie is. It's yeah, it is stupid, but it's fun.
01:35:26
Speaker
Yeah, the other part that I thought was just one more part that I thought was really funny is when Jenny, she's going to go to the pool and she's like at this point, they know that there's a killer on the loose, but there's a bunch of other people at the pool and she's like, hey, are you guys going to be around for a while? And they're like, oh, yeah, we just getting started. And so she like gets in the pool and she dives in and then just right at that moment, some ridiculous guy comes running by naked and he goes, first one that can get me gets free drinks. So they all run away from that was hilarious. That was hilarious.
01:35:54
Speaker
Um, I don't know. There's just so many stupid parts of this movie I could go on and on. Um, there's a couple of Friday, the 13th moments in this movie. Um, first off, the outfit that Stacy wears in the first scenes mirrors, the camp counselor uniforms in the original Friday, the 13th. And then again, uh, in the water when what's his face, what's in the killer? Uh, Sam, right? Sam, like after he's already chopped in half, he comes out of the boat, which was also pretty funny.
01:36:23
Speaker
And then at the very end, did you see that his other house when he gets chopped in half by the rope and everyone's like, yeah, yeah, that was that was pretty funny.
01:36:32
Speaker
Well, and then at the end of the movie, when it does the the end, you see his you see his other half, just the legs swimming towards them. It's like, it's like dumb, just dumb shit. But yeah, so this movie overall, I mean, it's it's just a stupid movie. It's about spring breakers, for God's sakes, and like a camp counselor set up. It's very much playing homage to all the 80s movies.
01:36:58
Speaker
you know, a robust amount of boobs, but also, you know, some butts and some good looking dudes. Like, I mean, this film does what it is supposed to do. It's interesting to look back at even like older reviews of this. Roger Ebert gave us a thumbs up.
01:37:14
Speaker
and two and a half stars. He said, I think I'll give it two and a half stars plus a nudge and a wink as a signal to those who liked Super Troopers and know what they're in for. I gave Super Troopers two and a half stars too, but I'd rather see it again than certain distinguished movies I could mention. Good old Roger Ebert, man. Remember Roger Ebert? Good fucking dude.
01:37:37
Speaker
Um, I should say that this is the, uh, debut of Jordan lad, who is the daughter of Charlie's angel star Cheryl lad. She plays penelope. So I can hold my breath for three minutes and 33 seconds.
01:37:53
Speaker
I love at the end when they're like, all right, Penelope, let's get out of here. And she just kind of gives like a thumbs up. And I do, I do like the idea of like machete Phil and like, where's my penis?
01:38:11
Speaker
And like Naughty Carlos and Naughty Cliff and like all that stuff. It's all it's all like derivative of like those 80s movies that we've watched so many of on the show. So would you watch it again?
01:38:25
Speaker
Yeah, I would. Yeah, I'd have to be in the right mood. You know what I mean? Like you're not going into this. You're not going into this like knowing that you're going to have like a cohesive plot with like intricate characters and like, no, it's not that movie. It's just stupid movie.
01:38:42
Speaker
Completely, I think I would watch it again, but I think I would definitely be stoned for it. Yeah, I'm almost like I'm almost sad that I that I wasn't for this watch because it's the perfect like and I really do mean that it's the perfect movie for it. I think that like there is something to be said about these kind of movies that are completely stupid, but they know exactly what they are. Pardon me. And they're not trying to be something that they're not.
01:39:08
Speaker
And it's it's a great little like fun slasher to watch when you do just want to chill out and not really pay attention to a bunch of shit because you kind of just watch it happen on the screen and laugh a little bit. That's what it is. It is interesting that the director chose to play the most despicable character in the movie. I thought that that was funny because Putman is obviously like the most like
01:39:31
Speaker
Uh, how do you put it? The most like despisable character in the movie because he thinks he's so above it all. But there's a funny running joke with him to where he's trying to get in with Jenny, but she's pretty much like there's a part where where she's it's revealed that she had sex with Juan and Sam and she's going to have sex with Lars because she really likes Lars. And there's this part where Putman is just like, Jesus, Jen, am I the only one
01:39:58
Speaker
I just thought that there's a little bit of a running joke that was kind of funny in that but but yeah overall I think that I don't know how to put this because like this isn't a good movie but it is I don't know I mean look I'm not gonna like I'm not gonna give it a super high score but I'm also not giving it a two you know what I mean like
01:40:19
Speaker
Yeah, it's of an era. If you like those early 2000s like kind of humor, you'll probably like this movie. And like I would say like, I don't know, for the most part, there's nothing like crazy offensive in it. I did notice like a very early 2000s kind of humor is where the two guys are standing at the pool and they're kind of like checking out all the girls and then they get like excited and hug for a moment. And there's like almost like a gay moment and they're like, don't be gay. And I'm like, that is that is that is that
01:40:49
Speaker
This time, so that time when there were so many secret gays everywhere and literally everywhere. And I think that that guy that's in that duo went on to be on Saturday Night Live. So yeah, good for him.
01:41:03
Speaker
But yeah, do we want to go ahead and score this? Anything else that you want to say? I don't. That's really it. And, you know, for me, Andrew, I gave it, you know, I'll give it the same score as you. I'll give it a four and a half. And I just said, look, in general, it's not my kind of movie, but there were a lot of fun parts to it. And once again, rest in peace, Bill Paxton.
01:41:21
Speaker
And I gave it a 4.5 as well.
Podcast Support and Closing Remarks
01:41:23
Speaker
I said, when the jokes land, AKA, Pina Colada Berg, they work. But because of the comedy of the early 2000s, a lot of this is kind of cringy these days. Wasting away again in Pina Colada Berg. So dumb. All right, well, that will do it for our horror in movies. We'll be right back to elect the hottie of the episode. Shante, you stay. Shante, you stay.
01:41:51
Speaker
Shante you stay shante you stay and folks that does it for episode 118 of Friday the 13th horror podcast But before we go we have one final game for you as we always do and this one is an old favorite It's also very easy to play. It's literally just called hottie of the episode Andrew. What are the rules for this again? How does it work?
01:42:13
Speaker
This is where we take a look back at everything we've just talked about and pick the person that we think is the hottest. That's basically it. Who should go first?
01:42:26
Speaker
Um, I, I have two. So, oh, you've got two. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. I can't really, it's hard for me to pick because I give them both. It's fine. And it's funny because they go both two spectrums of my, of my attractive attractability. Okay. Um, my first one is will from, I know what you did last summer. Fair enough. Yes. Matthew settle. I think that he's just adorable in like a, like,
01:42:52
Speaker
doofusy, jockey, like clumsy, floppy-haired way. And then my second one is Juan from Club Dread. And I don't know what it is about that guy, but he's always wearing those little tiny bathing suits and I'm into it. That's so funny. That's so funny.
01:43:09
Speaker
Um, look, it is not hard to guess who I'm going to choose here. It is of course, Freddie Prinze Jr. Um, there's no way I can choose anybody else. I would do anything for Freddie Prinze Jr. Literally anything that he wanted. I love that man. I loved him before. I love him now and I'll love him always.
01:43:26
Speaker
Yeah. You know, as much as we dumped on that movie, you know, a couple minutes ago, I would really think it would be a fun idea if they brought back, you know, Jennifer Love Hewitt and bring him back for now. And did like a parents, I know you did last summer. That would be so much fun. But that's the thing, though, is that.
01:43:43
Speaker
It's not that the franchise shouldn't have gone on, it's that how they chose to do it was fucking stupid. And I think that James Gillespie, the director of the first, was bang on. Like, number one, involve that dude. And number two, what the fuck were you doing?
01:43:59
Speaker
Yeah. Agreed. Well, that will do it for episode one 18. Just a couple of things to leave you with. Um, if you want to support the show, um, monetarily you can do so by becoming a, becoming a patron on patreon, or you can buy merch, um, at frag eight 13.com slash support. We would really appreciate your, your support, um, monetarily just because we don't make any money off this show. So anything that you give us, even if it's just one single dollar helps us keep on keeping up.
01:44:29
Speaker
Yeah, and that's just the thing is we are a proud independent podcast. I truly do mean that word proud. And we're not looking to make a bunch of money off of this, but podcasts do take money to produce. There's a lot of things that you have to rent, a lot of equipment that you have to purchase, and a lot of software pieces that you have to rely on to actually make the show itself.
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01:45:16
Speaker
I very, very, very briefly dated this person for like a week and a half and didn't work out and it didn't work out but mutually. But he listened to a couple of our episodes and he's very, this is not his thing at all.
01:45:34
Speaker
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01:46:02
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01:46:18
Speaker
Yeah, without without interacting with our with our audience, I don't think I would do this. You know what I mean? Yeah. So speaking of patrons, we have two new ones this episode. How cool. Eric Higgins and Robert Fitzgerald, who I believe Robert was an old patron that has come back into the fold. So thank you so much, Robert. Eric and Robert, thank you very much. That's really, really cool of you. Thank you.
01:46:43
Speaker
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01:47:11
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