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Main Pop Girlie Talk
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On this week's episode we take a dive into the current climate of music releases in 2024. From feeling overwhelmed and overstimulated to feeling horny with anticipation, we talk about all the main pop girlies of the moment. We reflect on releases from earlier this year like "Cowboy Carter," current releases like "Brat" and it's anticipated remix album companion, and future releases from Kylie Minogue, Lady Gaga and Katy Perry. We even sprinkle in some love for Janet Jackson and Missy Elliott for good measure.
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Tiredness and Humor with a Jeep
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Speaker
I am so lucky that I even am here right now because I just completely zonked out when I got home. You woke up in your house. You crashed into the building. I crashed. I said, beep, beep, who got the keys to the Jeep? Vroom. Let's ride. Let's ride. Yeah, no, I completely zonked out. I was so tired. I was sleepy little boy. What about super duper fly into Vroom Vroom?
Dream Collaborations: Charlie XCX and Missy Elliott
00:00:26
Speaker
That could be fun. In fact, a Charlie and Missy collaboration would be really fun. Missy Elliott with anybody. Missy Elliott with anybody, but like truly, I feel like as weird and goofy Charlie can be with her sound and her visuals, I feel like Missy. Oh, yeah. the Like it right in. Oh, my God. Put her on the remix album right now. Working it out on the remix.
00:00:55
Speaker
or get out on the remix. Oh my gosh. I hope there's are like a remix album and I hope it's so damn good. I know it's it's happening for sure.
Charlie XCX Remix Album Speculations
00:01:04
Speaker
There's a, there's a, um, a Charlie XCX Twitter account that like, uh, like a fan account that I keeps posting and keeps making, it keeps making it sound like there's something coming this week. And so I don't know what that would be. I know. but Well, also her sign, what did her sign say? It was like, brat isn't dead. BRV next week or something. So something is coming. Something's coming. I don't know. things's coming I don't know if it's going to be the remix album. I don't know if it's going to be a singular remix. I mean, obviously she's been playing the 365 ago remix with shy girl at all of her sets and and whatnot. And that has yet to be released to the public. So maybe it's that. Or maybe she'll tell us the color of her underwear finally.
00:01:50
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maybe Maybe that's the announcement. Oh, my God. be What color do you think her she's wearing today? I'm getting like a purple vibe with like white polka dots. Oh, I think that I'm brainwashed because she recently posted a photo dump and she's wearing pink underwear. So I think that I am saw that. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Did you, this is unrelated, but for some reason it's reminding me of the meme I sent you yesterday. Did you laugh at that meme I sent you where it's, I believe it's, um, Sophie, yeah Rebecca and Sophie. And she's like squinting with her, her lips, like freshly done. And it's like millennia when the bullet grazed Trump. Wait, who?
00:02:34
Speaker
Melania? I forget her name. It's been so long. I don't care. I love, I love. I will only call her Melania now. I just don't care. I mean, no one should care. I mean, unfortunately, we should care a little bit because...
Political Concerns: Trump Again?
00:02:51
Speaker
I care about Miss Coconut Tree. You know, I'm voting for her. Yeah, the same, same. But unfortunately, we we we should definitely care because there's always the possibility that Donald Trump could win again. And that's unfortunate. It's very unfortunate that we live in that reality. Also, hi, everybody. Hi. Hey, hey. How y'all doing? Welcome back to pop theory. We're just
Snapchat Mishaps and Humor
00:03:17
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catching up. Jeff and I are just catching up, having a little catch up session. I feel like I haven't talked to you in a couple of days.
00:03:23
Speaker
It's been, it's been a minute. You know, it's been, um, I mean, we talk and we talk every day through meme through Snapchat. You just recently accidentally posted a story of yourself on Snapchat. god I'm so tired of that happening. Is it my fat fingers? Is it the app? I need to know what's going on. Is it the metaverse is Snapchat in the metaverse? I know. I don't think so. No, no, no, no. When you said metaverse, I was like, I was like thinking Marvel cinematic universe. And I was like, no, but I know what you're talking about. No, no. Zuckerberg Vima. At least I don't think so. I don't think that he brought a Snapchat, but
00:04:01
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Either way, somehow I use Snapchat as a mirror. It's like habit for me to use it as ah a self-facing cam just to check out myself like in different periods of the day to see what's going on. Do I have a booker? Do I have like a straight eyebrow hair? You know, right you got to like check in with yourself. And I was at the pool. I took the ugliest photo of myself possible and somehow it always goes to stories. Yeah. i don't Cause there's one, I don't know if you remember a few years ago, I took one and it was like me. I had had to have like just woke up, like started my work day at like 10 AM. m Um, I had like a backwards head on and like essentially, you know, clothes on and I had the ugliest space I've ever made in my entire life. And somehow that got posted too.
00:04:43
Speaker
I love that. Yeah. You said you said this is a photo for the entire world to see, not just my friends, not my close friends. The entire world gets to see this and we celebrate it the entire woman's world gets to see this. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Woman's world that that exists in the world right now.
Promoting Podcasts: Social Media and Clickbait
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Speaker
You know what? We get we get a lot of we got kind of a lot of commotion on social media with that one post. We got some flack. There was some flack. I guess I would call it flag. It was I would say it's like people who didn't do their due diligence and actually listen to the episode, which is why we even posted that social media clip in the first place. Someone was calling it clickbait and I was like, I mean, I guess it's clickbait, but like it's promoting a podcast just like anyone else posts a clip of the show on social media. Clickbait would be like me and you posing like this, like
00:05:38
Speaker
with with the title, big letters being like, Katy Perry almost dies, question mark, question mark, question mark. That's like that's not what was was happening. That was nothing of the sort. Woman's world best song of the year. ah question mark point Question mark. Yeah. Yeah. Which was none of the sort. we We were just having, it was a clip of a very long conversation about Dr. Luke that you and I had with DJ John Michael, which I thought was a great conversation. I think we i think we covered every bass that we could possibly cover. I think we brought up things that people really aren't talking about and brought them into the light, which I think is important just to know exactly what's happening in the music industry and not just go after Katy Perry.
Katy Perry's Dr. Luke Controversy
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But I will say, I don't i feel like I didn't express this enough. I don't think the song's good. I just want to point that out there. like I'm not listening to it. I don't think it's good. And for all the commotion it has caused, it's like if you're going to work with the doctor, yeah, like
00:06:34
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You know, give us teenage dream part two. Why, why that? Like if you're going to go through all of that, also that was pretty funny, wasn't it? when good So for all the listeners out there who probably have listened to Gwen Stefani's iconic masterpiece of an album, L A M B, one of the best pop albums of all time, in my opinion. isn um There is a song on that album, I believe it's track 10. It's called Serious. And there's a part at the end where she goes, I'm going to call the doctor or I need to call the doctor. And I said, I said, Katy Perry getting together a team for women's world. And that yeah was one of my funniest moments of the year, I think. You got to talk a lot of me when you sent that to me. Thank you for that. I appreciate
Criticism of Katy Perry Beyond Collaboration
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that. You're welcome. you know You know, I saw, I think, peace from TikTok ah about Katy Perry of it all and and her current ah position in the music industry, if you will.
00:07:32
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and the The guy was saying, you know, I am upset that she's working with Dr. Luke, but he was like, beyond that, people right now are obsessed with Katy Perry flopping. ah yeah yes they have been And he pointed that out. He was like, ever since witness, people have been obsessed with pointing out that Katy Perry is flopping. And they do it so much that he's like, it's beyond the Dr. Luke at this point. He was like he basically was saying that like doc using Dr. Luke right now is like kind of a cover up to mask your just obsession with wanting her to fail.
00:08:13
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And i I just thought it was an interesting tick tock. That's but that's exactly some of the the opinion I had expressed in the last episode. Like I couldn't agree more. I feel like we just it was like the Nickelback train of it all. Like let's just hate on this person. We really want to see them fail for not a very good reason. Like you can say maybe she's not like a nice person, whatever. You know, you can say like her interactions with other celebrities or other fans, you know, maybe aren't the best. I don't. really care you know but at the end of the day there's not like an actual valid or good reason or something to back that up like other than you really just want to see her flop was this a British guy he was yeah and I know exactly we're talking about he's very like in my
00:08:57
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And you're in your. Explore page. Yeah. He's in your explore page. She is exploring your page, baby. Yeah. Him and Adam the flop, I think is his name. Adam the flop. I don't know that he recounts pop music. He's you would you would I feel he has some really good takes. I sent you a meme the other day. It was about Jade. Jade's debut. OK. Angel of my dreams. Is he the is he the bald guy with glasses? No, that's Anthony Fintan Fintano. Okay, this is like a this is like a gay guy like kind of Twinkie gay guy
00:09:29
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Okay, gotcha. ah and use it To be fair, you send me a lot. So I'll have to go back through my messages and and see what you're talking about. But yeah, I just thought it was a fascinating TikTok to watch and to listen to. And I ah loved his point about the fact that Katy Perry's name stays in the zeitgeist, because she really hasn't had commercial success in quite some time in the way that at least she used to.
The Absence of New Global Superstars
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And for her to stay in the zeitgeist, regardless, it is pretty is impressive. Yeah, like I was just kind of like I was like she might be flopping and flopping hard, but like she's flopping so hard that it's kind of working in her favor in the sense like she's keeping her name in the conversation.
00:10:21
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You know, just like a theory that I have too is we just don't have any big pop stars anymore like we used to. And so yeah she is kind of from one of the last um influxes of those that had like major success and really was like, I'm a global superstar. Like um we're starting to hopefully see that with Trapple Roan a little bit, but we really haven't had an artist like that in so
Katy Perry's Legacy and Chart Success
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long. And so it's like, I mean, yeah, like her and Lady Gaga are the ones I can remember in recent years. so So that's probably part of it. We just don't have the same kind of pop stars right now that we used to have huge impact. Yeah. Yeah. So whatever like Gaga is doing, whatever Katie's doing, whatever is Beyonce is doing, there's there's a few others. If Rihanna did something right, like people are going to show interest because again, they are the mega super pop stars. Right. And I would put Katy Perry in that.
00:11:14
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i Do I think she's as talented as the girls some of the girls I mentioned? Not necessarily. I think i think i think she's talented, but um I still think like her impact, especially for those couple years, was huge. yeah You can't deny the massive success she had. and That's one of the things where like you know people, we always talk about commercial success. and like Does it matter? like does charts Do charts matter? Do sales matter? like Do all of these things matter? and my own My thing is that it's like it matters to a de degree, and I would say Katy Perry is a great example of it mattering.
00:11:47
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because she didn't just have like a couple big hits quote unquote I think that she has like four or five but diamond singles which means that she has sold an equivalent of 10 million copies or more per song and then she has other songs that like are nearing that mark like it's huge these songs were not just oh it's just a big hit it was like truly a massive success and like one after another, one after another, one after another.
00:12:19
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Absolutely. Especially the Teenage Dream era where it was like but six? Five? She had five number ones from the original pressing of the album. And then like the re-release like the Wide Awake of it all. And then yeahp and then the re-release garnered another number one and then the one that got away I think reached peaked at number three and then Wide Awake peaked at number two. So I mean altogether what is that? Seven singles that what ended in the top three? You just don't see that anymore. No. Sounds like another girl that we know. Janet. Janet. Oh, I know. But you could to talk about her all day. I really have a newfound appreciation for slow love off of Demita Joe.
00:13:00
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It's so good. It's so good and groovy and funky. And I'm like, oh, I really slept on this. This is a good song. Like, it's a really good deep cut from that album. It's a great deep cut. And it's just like that got that Euro dance vibe that, you know, I love. We all know that Zach loves that at this point. um I want to say that that might be a blood shine of on track. Don't quote me on that. Oh. Yeah, so same people who did Britney's toxic. I believe also worked on All Night Don't Stop. So yeah, that team, they just churn out bangers. They do. And we've we've talked about All Night on this podcast so much, but it truly is so underrated and deserved to have its moment in the sun. And we're pissed about it still. We're pissed. And that's a song that so that's a song that should have been number one for like 17 weeks.
00:13:51
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It has the same energy. Does it not have the same energy as like hits from that year? Like, yeah. but i' Sure. Or um what's the other one? Outcast. Hey, yeah. like it It has that same energy of being a massive, successful song. And it's so frustrating that it didn't get that opportunity because of because of a you know crystallized sun pasty over a nipple. Yeah, but it was a nipple ring, actually. Nipple ring. Excuse me. Yeah, but hey, yeah, fuck that. Yeah, I it hurts. It hurts to talk about it hurts to talk about um something that has been on my mind is we are getting lots of news. You and I have talked to a lot about how this year specifically we are just like constantly getting new music releases.
00:14:44
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from everyone. And it's to me, and I think that you and I have both mentioned on this podcast, that like it's starting to get overwhelming. Like it's right nauseating at this point, sometimes in a good way. But we are heading into quarter four of the year. And there are which is wild. And there's still so much new music that is going to be coming our way over the next few months. I mean, we've got the remix project that allegedly Charlie XCX is putting out. We've got basically it's been basically all but confirmed by Kylie herself that she has a new album coming out, Kylie Minogue.
00:15:24
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She just released My, My, My a couple of weeks ago. She's... Flop. Sorry, sorry. Sorry. you could by But she has, and it probably by this point that this episode comes out, Edge of Saturday Night with the Blessed Madonna will be out. Yeah. Can I interject and just say, I'm proud of you for saying Blessed Madonna. Last time I said that on the podcast, when that song was my song, We Don't Talk About Enough, I believe her song Happier. You dragged me for saying blessed. Did I say Blessed? You 100% did. Did I? Rewind, roll the tapes. ah they i'll Find the tapes, find the tapes. Got you on candid camera. That's so funny. Oh my gosh, really? Did I say the Blessed Madonna?
00:16:06
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You sure did. And I could not be more proud. I love it. Yeah, I just woke up too. So I'm just like saying whatever the fuck I want right now. and Hell yeah. Real edgy. Yeah, I'm so fucking edgy. But I guess I bring all of this up because you know as I reflect on the music that's been released this year, there's been a lot of really great releases. But there's also been a lot of just like, for lack of a better word, like forgettable songs. And I'm and I will unfortunately say like My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My My Seriously, she has found a groove. Like she really has found a new thing to reignite her passion. Not that she's ever lost a passion for music, but it's really felt like, wow, okay.
Kylie Minogue's New Music and Expectations
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She's like, I'm entering the next level of my career and I'm giving it all. Yeah, she really hasn't. So on on that hand, I'm really excited. But like, for me, like I just, I just am a little nervous of like,
00:17:17
Speaker
I don't want to say yeah, the quality I don't I feel like the quality is at risk of getting lost a little bit. And one of my favorite things about Kylie Minogue is the quality of her music, right? I will go down saying that she has one of the best discographies and pop music period. That said, I personally love Edge of Saturday Night. I that is what I was looking for. And I was like, this should have been maybe the lead single off this new album. Yeah, I agree. It should have been 100%. Not my oh my. Like my oh my. It's cute. Do you think my oh my will be on the album? Maybe it won't be. Maybe it'll just be kind of like its own thing. Kind of like. Oh, good point. I'm trying to think of other artists who have done that, you know, where it's like not necessarily. See, I'm just wondering. It does not feel like a lead single. It does not feel like my oh my, if it is lead single, does not feel like a lead single.
00:18:11
Speaker
feels like a throwaway song I mean it's the moment I heard it I was like this is not good yeah I so I'm just curious as to what she has up her sleeve because she was on an interview I don't remember what radio show but she was interviewed about like is she releasing a new album and this is where Kylie she basically said something along the lines of like I think that we can all but confirm that this is the start of something new and more to come. And so I so in more or less words, confirming that a new album is on the way, which I was like, OK, cool. But then there's already this new song with the Blessed Madonna. And then I know that she's teased collaborations with Joel Corey. There is apparently, well, I should say the Orville Peck song.
00:19:01
Speaker
Yep, she just released the duet with Orville Peck back in June. um This has not been confirmed, but the streets are saying that there is a collaboration with Madonna in the works, which, I mean, the gays would absolutely eat alive. So it makes me wonder, like, maybe there's a collaboration album in the works, and maybe it's like her version of, like, you know, Tony Bennett's duets, but like really gay and really dance-ified. But, um, I mean, I am. Don't get me your wrong. You know, I love my Kylie. I will gladly take whatever she throws at us and I, you know, can skip my oh my. That's fine. I have it's America. I can do that. Yeah. But I just yeah, I'm just curious as to what's going on. I'm curious as to what is it? What's she cooking? What's she doing? And on top of that, tension has not even been out for a year.
Fast Music Cycles and Quality Concerns
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Speaker
Wow. And I think that we don't give album cycles enough time to really like sink in and let maybe some singles come out of that. Like I was kind of hoping for more attention to some of those songs, you know, and and to move into a new album just feels like rushed because I truly believe tension was such a, you know, toward a force. Like it really was just like a great album, like to put that out there after that long in her career that you know that longevity in her career was just amazing amazing. It was amazing to watch and it ended up being you know just a great album overall. Not every song, but a pretty solid album. so This is a very solid album. Yeah. i love You know what song I love that has stuck with me? It was a standout for me and still has to the test of time is One More Time.
00:20:48
Speaker
One more time is so good. It's so it's everything I want yeah in a song. I love it so much. And I love Tension. Tension's my favorite. Yeah, same, same. Though that album is she just, you know, just did her concert at Hyde Park in in England and she performed one more time. She performed um Things We Do For Love, and it reinvigorated my love for that album because I mean, you know me, I love my like kind of seasons with album. So like for me, it's a very full album.
00:21:21
Speaker
um But it I went back and re-listened to the album and I was like, God, this is so good. And yeah i'm with I'm with you that I have the whole album cycle of it all. I understand in this world of like the digital streaming put things out quickly. I get the the traditional album rollouts no longer kind of make sense, but I'm with you like I wish that I wish that album was really solid and there were like I would definitely say at least four songs that were
00:21:53
Speaker
definitely single worthy that deserved full attention, like single release, giving us music videos, giving us a remix EP, like giving us like performances, like- I TikTok dance, something. Give us, yeah, and a TikTok dance. And- Give us an apple. Give us an apple, which that song is climbing. Glowing up. Climbing right now. I'm burning up baby, I'm burning up.
Creative Overwhelm in Music Industry
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Speaker
I think that you have you know go to go back to the exhaustion part of it, like this reminds me of the Taylor the taylor sort Swift conversation we had when TTVD came out. I do feel like if you don't give your current music time to breathe,
00:22:38
Speaker
and you just start making new music, like, that can be great if you, like, especially, you know, i' I've been listening to the Velvet Rope a lot, right? That's an album where Janet was processing a lot of her emotions yeah and it was going through a really hard time. And because of that, I mean, we got an amazing project. So I think that, I think that can be a beautiful thing, but I also think like, if you, you have this album, it hasn't even been on a year and you've already been putting out singles like randomly here and there, Yeah, I do see the quality potentially suffering and just what I, what I've heard so far. That's kind of what I'm hearing. Like, it's just kind of like generic or not really interesting. And it reminds me of TCVD in that way where it's like, I feel like similar to Taylor. It's like maybe.
00:23:23
Speaker
Again, I'm glad you're riding this high, but like maybe let's sit with a tension album and take a little bit of a break you know to recoup, to decide what your next move is because just going full steam ahead into something isn't always the best thing, I think, for for the project. like Historically, with with music and like to your point, we're kind of like we've reached a point in the year where we're like, wow, we've gotten so much. It's a, it's a lot. It's a lot to take anymore is a little bit worrisome because I could, you know, I mean, I hope it's not a flop, but what I'm hearing so far, I'm like, I don't, I don't love this, you know? Sure. Yeah. I am curious.
Kylie's Album Re-release Speculations
00:24:05
Speaker
I am curious to, i cause i because the word on the street was that there was going to be a ah tension, deluxe, like a re-release, kind of how she's done with her previous albums, like with Disco, she did a like a guest list version. And things of that nature. So that was kind of what I was thinking, and especially like when it was, you know, she tease that she was working on a song with Joel Corey and things like that. I was like, Oh, that seems to line in seems to line in with like the sound of the album and things like that. But, but now it seems like that there's a ah brand new album in the works. And so I'm just very curious as to like, what is that going to be? Is this going to be
00:24:45
Speaker
you know, a collaboration album, is it going to be? And to your question too, like, is My Oh My the lead single? Is Edge of Saturday Night the lead single? like you say These girls are moving on from their lead singles. I mean, talk about Lifetimes, Katy Perry about to come out soon. right She said, oh, I'm moving on from that, real quick.
Public Perception Shift of Katy Perry
00:25:05
Speaker
We're like, women's what? Women's who? We don't know her. We don't. No one cared. if No one cared. no one cared and You know the unfortunate thing is that people, I think, there seemed to be an excitement around Katy Perry's comeback until it was announced that she was working with Dr. Luke again. right Once that was showcased to the world,
00:25:31
Speaker
the public completely turned. And I think that's unfortunate. And again, and you know, as we talked about in our last episode, we don't know why she worked with him again. We have our suspicions, but none of us actually know. And so I would love for her to talk about it someday. I mean, to me, it's obvious like she she wanted to hit that. That's what I think. Because again, if we go back in time, you realize that the last time she worked with him was on prison, which had a phenomenal success for the most part. Right. So.
00:26:03
Speaker
Again, if you're gonna work with the doctor, get that prescription refilled. like Make it worth your while. you know what What are you doing with this song? like And also moving on from it, and i know I know you, correct me if I'm wrong, but you and both DJ said you you like lifetimes or what you've heard of lifetime so far. sir Yeah, i I personally, I've only heard the snippets that are online, but I personally, I mean, it's definitely right in line with the style of music that I love. It's to me, it's kind of like walking on air 2.0 from what it sounds like. um So I'm excited for the release. I know that some people feel differently. Some people are not liking the sound. Some people seem to look, I've seen a mixed review. I've seen a lot of people be like, this is what she should have led with in the beginning.
00:26:50
Speaker
um And then I've seen other people be like, I hate this, but I also think that those people are, because again, I believe that this next single is also produced by Dr. Luke. So, okay so, and and that's the thing too. I like I am genuinely curious as to being like, knowing how the world is these days, like, did her record label intentionally sabotage her? Is she sabotaging herself? Like, like, I'm just I'm curious as to just like, I think that she is smarter than that to work with him again. So that's why I'm just kind of led to believe like, was this her own choice? Or was this her record label being like, if you don't work with him again and give us a hit, we're not putting anything out?
00:27:37
Speaker
think it's I think it's probably a mutual interest in that way. yeah yeah Yeah, I think it's probably a little bit of both for sure because I think that that is what it boils down to though. It's about like, hey, we really need you to produce a hit. You have not been producing hits so for the last, god, almost 10 years, essentially. It's been a while.
Label Pressure on Katy Perry for Hits
00:27:56
Speaker
It's been a long time. So it makes sense to me why they want her to work with the doctor.
00:28:04
Speaker
You keep calling him the doctor. I'm like, oh my God. You keep, if you're going to work with the doctor. It's just funny. I love it. I love it because it, because it's like, I'm giving him a villain energy because I do believe he is a villain. So the doctor, he's the doctor. You know what I mean? It's doctor of pain and suffering lifetimes to me. It sounds like a watered down version of walking on air. So I gotta to be honest with you, or hearing hearing the snippets, I'm like, I'm worried for sure. I'm worried for sure. Cause it's not that it's bad. It's just like generic, like I can find a hundred other dance EDM tracks that sound like that. And honestly, like, um, what's the one when I'm gone? Was that the one she did with like, um, so even like I'm listening to that again recently, like.
00:28:54
Speaker
That sounds better than the snippet I heard of lifetimes. And we forgot all about that song. Yeah. Yeah. so Yeah. We'll find out. I, you know, I will say this too, the snippet of it all right now. it's hererri go get it's get it It's just, again, I think it just adds to the overwhelming sensation of like new music coming out, right? Because basically what's happening now is we are being fed these snippets. They can sometimes be 15 seconds. sometimes A lot of times they're 30 seconds.
00:29:25
Speaker
And with the song lengths these days, that's what one fifth of the song already. So one half one half of the song. So it's like we're like fed all of these snippets. We hear them on everyone's social media for two to three weeks, and then we finally get the song. It just feels anticlimactic. I completely get the reasoning why certain people do it, especially independent artists. It completely makes sense. But on the flip side, regardless if you're an independent artist or not, it does make your fans kind of almost over the song to begin with before it even comes out. Like it just it takes away that magic.
00:30:06
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I completely agree. it's like you know You see that a lot in cinema, too. I love using that word. I feel like pause. Cinema. Yeah. ah you know You see it a lot, though, versus back in the day. like Trailers used to be like an artistic way to kind of showcase you know, what you're getting in a movie without giving anything away. And now you can see trailers, and i one of my biggest gripes in this world in the last 15 years, you can see a trailer, like I just went to the movie to see Twisters. yeah And some of these trailers, I'm like, okay, I don't need to see that. I saw everything that happened. Unless there's some crazy M m Night Shyamalan twist in this movie, I don't need to see it. And it honestly pisses me off. It doesn't make me want to see it.
00:30:49
Speaker
Yeah, I do want to see trap. Speaking of I'm not Shyamalan. I really want to see trap, but okay. I'm night. I'm night. Come on. I'm night. No, but but but yeah, no for real or and or maybe not even a trailer like talk about a crazy press tour. The wicked girls Ariana and Cynthia. I got the Olympics right now. They have been promoting this movie since the beginning of the year and the movie doesn't come out until November. It is wild. I mean, I know it's a massive film, The Wizard of Oz, right? like so It kind of makes sense, but yeah, it it is truly insane. Can you for a second, just before before we move on, you do an impression of Ariana Grande finding out that the witch is green and it makes it makes me laugh just the way you say it and the way you do it. will usually Will you give the audience a little preview? Oh my gosh. Yeah. I don't know if I can do it on the spot. Hold on. Okay. Let me let me try. Let me let me try. You're green. There you go. Great.
00:31:49
Speaker
Do I get an Oscar? You get a Razzie award. Okay. Okay. For showing my raspberry. which is honor Which is honorable. Your raspberry beret. My raspberry beret. Yeah. Honestly, it's so funny to me. is Yeah. You'll agree. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm excited for Wicked. I've never seen it. I've never seen the musical. That would have been funny for Brat. For Brat. yeah Yeah, you're great. Yeah. So maybe that's what she was actually promoting with that. they They were they were like showing a glimpse into the brat world brat summer. But it's yeah, it's just a lot. It's just it's overwhelming. And then it's like just drags out. And then when you finally go listen to the song or see the movie, it just feels oftentimes feels like, okay,
00:32:37
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That's it. right There's just no, I just miss excite. There's ways to excite people without giving things away. can i say though Can I say though too, I think a big part of it, not all of it, but a big part of it is just the world we live in today with the internet and having everything so readily accessible at our fingertips at all times. It does ruin the magic of many things. Yeah, I mean, I completely agree. And you know a lot of people say it's like, oh, it's because of TikTok or it's oh because of Spotify. And it's no, it's exactly what you're talking about. It's all of it. It's everything just being so instant gratification, everything at our fingertips so all the time.
Anticipation for Beyonce's "Cowboy Carter"
00:33:13
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I mean, before even albums come out, you have fans already talking about what ah what's the what's the next album going to be like. you know or It's just kind of like, let's have some. The cowboy Carter effect.
00:33:27
Speaker
right? Yeah, yeah, people already talking about Act Three. I mean, people were talking about Act Three since Renaissance, but still, I mean, and you know what, talking about albums that I don't want to say we forgotten, we did not forget about cowboy Carter, but Giselle certainly feels like she forgot about it.
US Gymnastics Team Olympic Success
00:33:48
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Beyonce forgot about it, except yeah I will say she I like that she pulled out Yaya for the that Olympic yeah ellen for For her to do a video for the Olympics too, I'm like, damn, the Olympics must feel special that you got got Beyonce to do that. yeah And i say i love I love her love for the gymnastics team. Shout out to the gymnastics team, by the way, that the women's won gold and the men won bronze, which I think it's their first time winning a medal in quite some time for the men.
00:34:16
Speaker
Yeah, not for the women. The women always kill it. But yeah for Team USA, for the men, I think it was their first time winning bronze or just meddling in in a while. ah But I loved watching that video. And I love these celebrities supporting these gymnasts. And yeah because listen, I know all the sports are important. All sports matter. You know, like I get it in the Olympics. But I i personally don't care. The only thing I'm watching is gymnastics. And that's the thing that makes me feel the most patriotic. you know for For a week, I'm super patriotic and seeing that Beyonce video, man, it just made me feel things. I loved it. It just me it makes me miss Beyonce seeing her. like know i've search i sir too i I miss I miss her putting out music
Beyonce's Future Projects: Music and Cinema
00:35:07
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videos. I understand that she's working on these films.
00:35:10
Speaker
I understand that we're probably going to get a crazy, huge project with like all three albums intertwined in some sort of cinematic universe, and I'm so excited for it. But fuck, am I right? I'm like waiting. Fuck. It feels like she doesn't care. It feels like she doesn't care, and I just like miss her. like i miss her and no but But no, I'm with you. It was very fun and very exciting to see that. um But that's like the first- This complicated country, did you hear that catch up? Yeah, this complicated country. This beautiful, complicated country. This is the best diplomatic thing you could have said. Yeah. And I mean, she's not wrong.
00:35:49
Speaker
Um, but it just makes me wonder, like, it makes me wonder, like, okay, you said that this is your best body of work that you've ever put out where like, there's been no additional promo except for this video. I'm trying to think if there's been anything else there, there was the pony up remix of Texas hold them, which where is that? And I'm just kind of like, we're, I would love the songs aren't going as viral as. the way that the Renaissance songs did. Like everyone was making up dances on TikTok to Renaissance. There was a little bit of that at the beginning, um I think up leading up to the album. there And Two Hands to Heaven had ah had a moment yeah from Dre, Dre, what's her name? The choreographer. Kelly, our Kelly's ex-wife. Yeah. Wild.
00:36:41
Speaker
Yeah, i just you know i wish that there was I wish we got something. I would love a remix of another song. um I think that they were expecting 2 Most Wanted to be a smash hit. I was! To be honest, I was. Yeah, that that is so wild. that that's That's exactly right. I think they were expecting it to be a hit. And to be honest, it's not it's not even one that I've revisited a lot. I think it's a beautiful duet. I loved it. It was a standout for me the first time I listened to it. But yeah, where is that? Yeah. what if there If there was another single promoted from Kawakarta, what would you want to be promoted? Well, what would I want or what do I think would do well?
00:37:21
Speaker
Mm, both. but Give me one that you would want and then one that you think that would actually do well. One that I would want to be a single, I think, is I'm going to have to say Sweet Honey Bucket is just, I just, I'm i'm still obsessed with it. Like i I love it. Probably Two Hands to Heaven, you know, especially I think, I think Two Hands to Heaven would do really well if this was like, I'm thinking back to like, you know, 2010 when there, there used to be like our hit R and B songs, like you'd like the R and B station would play certain things that were hits, but they weren't necessarily hits on other. Sure. Stations like mainstream stations like 95 five for Detroit, where, where I lived um in that area, but two hands to heaven would have done really well.
00:38:09
Speaker
Like on on a on a radio station like that. And I would love for that to be a single, especially because it had a little bit of virality, you know, behind it. But I'm trying to think of like, what would be commercial, commercially successful off of that album because it's so artistic. Yeah. It's hard to say. I do feel like, yeah, I mean, it it would it makes sense to me what two most wanted should have been hit. You know, or maybe Levi's jeans. I could see that being popular because it's basic as fuck. Oh, okay. I mean, I, I love Levi's. Oh, it's the only song I don't really care for.
00:38:52
Speaker
I like it a lot, but I, you know, there was a lot of love for Bodyguard when the album first came out. Yeah. And I think that that would have been a perfect summer song if they had like released it to radio, maybe give us a remix of something. Bodyguard that at the beginning of summer, that I think that that would have been a really great way to promote the album. It seems like that they were going to try to push that for a second when she had uploaded a video on Instagram, I think of her like that they sidetracked one of her, you know, you know, when she like does all those like photo montages and whatnot. They did that with bodyguard. But yeah, you know, not that you say sweet honeybuckin, though. I mean, Shaboozie has a number one single in the country. and I'm so happy for him.
00:39:35
Speaker
Yeah. And so and I mean, he's on that song. So I'm just curious ah how they would if they were to promote Sweet Honey Buck in to it to be an actual single and they were going to try to push it to radio. That song's five minutes, right? I don't think it it has an opportunity to be commercially successful. It's just too it's too weird of a song. Do you know what I mean? It's a weird song. I love it. It's my favorite. It's my favorite. my I don't know if it's my favorite song of the album, but it's my most played song of the album. you Yeah, no, for sure. i've seen I've seen that as Apple replays. Yeah, it's it's wild. like I played it so much more than I realized, but it's yeah it's truly a weird song.
00:40:15
Speaker
It is a weird song. I, I think that, again, this, I think that like the success and to regenerate interest is to release a remix of something. I just don't know what that would be and what that would be like, because I got a whole point with Yaya. Maybe Yaya would be good too with the Yaya at all. Would be fun. Oh my gosh. Who? Oh my God. Who should, who could she put on Yaya? Someone with a little rock edge. Lady Gaga. Actually, that would be kind of fun. It would be kind of like a throwback to the Joanne AO of it all. Yeah. Actually, now that you say that, like, does does the world want that? I don't know. Do we want that? Of course. Yeah. I think that would make sense.
00:40:59
Speaker
Literally. And then speaking of Gaga, like her debuting those like two quick little snippets in Paris. Yes. So first of all, I love again, this is ah I will say what I love about how quickly the internet moves. People like quickly put those through the like AI filters to filter out the people yelling. Yes. So that we could get at like a clearer ish version of like what was being played. I'm excited. I've never seen a more hardworking twink than that one who filtered out the background voices to give us a shitty, like barely heard through a tunnel snippet of that song, of abracadabra. Abracadabra, abracadabra.
Lady Gaga's Industrial Sound Revival
00:41:45
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I like the way it sounds, I gotta say. i like i like the It's hard, again, it's hard to piece it together. It's really quite impossible. But yeah from what I'm hearing, I'm like, okay, I like the style of this, like whatever's happening here.
00:41:56
Speaker
Yeah, it sounds very industrial. It's it's giving it's for me, it's kind of giving a perfect blend of like the born this way era kind of the darkness of the born this way era with then like the bombasticness of the art pop era. Yeah, I think I agree. Yep. And oh, my gosh, I cannot wait to hear these songs. I hope you don't have to wait long or pop to know. I'm just kidding. Right. Yeah. um I also so there is the abracadabra song. And then there was the other one where she says, like, I'm a notorious being. That one kind of reminded me of Mary Jane Hollands, which I think is one of your personal favorites. Right. I love that song. Yeah. So.
00:42:40
Speaker
Hmm. I'm, I'm so curious, but like I, I Gaga seems excited about her new music, which I'm really excited about. Thank God. I love, by the way, side, side note. I love when lady Gaga sings in French. There's something about it. I love it. It's so good. Like La Vie en Rose from the stars. Warren. I listened to that all the time. Yeah. When Gaga sings in French, the world comes together and everything makes sense. Alright Gaga, we're excited to see what you got up your sleeve. Don't make us wait too long because we're patient little babies. but i love I love the name Abra Kadabra for a song too. i That would be really fun if it was called that. Yeah.
00:43:25
Speaker
because Yeah, because that's what the streets are saying and you know that she, I saw this on Twitter, I don't know if you saw this, ah she posted a video two years ago of her singing Queen Herbie's song, Africa Dabra. So I'm like, oh. Yeah, one doing one of her house labs, like promos. Yeah. cheriio chea a Cheerio. Cheerio.
Underrated Songs: Janet and Jordan Sparks
00:43:46
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Well, on that note, I think it's time for us to talk about a song or two that the world does not talk about enough. Do you have a song that we do not talk about enough? Well, I brought up one. I think it's low love by Janet is one that I brought up earlier. I would definitely include that.
00:44:02
Speaker
But I'm gonna, I'm gonna actually, this is more of a song that I want to appreciate. I don't know if it's not talked about enough because of it's so new, but I have to give it up to Ms. Dominic Dalla. I, Dom Dalla, I really, really like this dance song, his song, Girls, that he just released last month. It's so fun. I'm not familiar. OK. Please, please do me a favor and listen to it. It's fun. I didn't I wasn't gravitated towards it at first. But the more I listen to it, I'm like, this is a little summer bath. This is fun. And it's a great like gym song. I'm sure to like wear out like typically with like the Edm songs that I discover. Yeah. I listen to them for like a hot minute, like a few weeks, especially when I'm like working out or running or whatever.
00:44:53
Speaker
and then they just kind of fall off. I'm assuming that if I if i had to predict, I would say it's probably gonna happen, but right now I'm really loving it. Okay, well, I'm excited to hear. I have not listened to anything of his since Eat Your Man with with Ellie. okay So I'm excited to give it a listen. Give it a listen, it's fun. yeah you know i I think you'll like it. I think you'll like it, yeah. Okay, okay. Mine is gonna be completely out of nowhere, but I literally on my drive home from work today, but it randomly popped into my head.
00:45:26
Speaker
for what reason, I have no idea. But you may or may not remember the iconic singer Jordan Sparks. And I for some reason was thinking about her debut album. And then this song, See My Side, I believe it's called See My Side. It's either See My Side or See Your Side. It is a song that was written by Robin and is on her debut album. Interesting. Yeah, it's a song written by Robin and Klaus Allunde. I think that's how you say Klaus's last name, Allunde. Klaus Allunde, who has been one of Robin's big collaborators since her self-titled album back in 2005.
00:46:08
Speaker
um And it when you hear it, it is very much like you hear it. And once you learn that it's ah like written by Robin, you're like, oh, obviously. and That's all you hear. It's all you hear. In fact, Robin might even still do some background vocals on that song. um But yeah, great little bop-y little tune. It's kind of weird, very bleepy, electronic-y, but also really pretty. It's kind of like, kind of reminds me of an electronic lullaby in a way. Yeah. But that song popped into my head out of nowhere on my drive home today. And I was like, where the hell did that come from? like who who Find me another person who's talking about that song in 2024. Or Jordan Sparks. Or Gina G. I had to bring in up Gina G at least once tonight. Got it. Yeah. yeah quote Your quota.
00:47:03
Speaker
Gotta be my quota, baby. Gotta meet it. So, all right. But you know what? Until next time, you everyone. Have an amazing night. ah Have an amazing and night. Have an amazing night. night. All right. Peace out. Bye.