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The Brat Episode
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On this episode of POP THEORY, DJ John Michael is BACK with a BRATitude to talk all things Charli XCX and her new album "Brat." We do a track-by-track of the deluxe album, talk about dream collaborations and remixes and even discuss some of our favorite lesser known Charli XCX tracks.
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Introduction and Episode Setup
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Speaker
Hello, everybody. Welcome back to Pop Theory. Today we are joined again by DJ John Michael, and it's gonna be a juicy episode today. I mean, feeling a little brat-tastic. I have a little bratitude right now. It's just going to be this for an hour. it's going to Yeah, exactly. i just And I think I might shock you with some takes on brat. I know, I know. So this episode is getting recorded on June 12th. This episode probably won't get released until a couple weeks
Charli XCX's 'Brat' Album Exploration
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from now.
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But ah at this moment in time, we are about, oh, gosh, what is it? Like six days into the release of Charlie XCX's highly anticipated brat. The brat-a-sants. The brat-a-sants. ah we're and we're We're currently at the latitude of Bratitude. The latitude of Bratitude. I am screaming. We're celebrating Bratmas. Right. A few months early. Bratmas in June. Bratmas in June. Bratmas Miracle. um Yeah. Charlie X-Tix released Brat. And um I'm just going to go out and and say it right now. I have been listening to it nonstop since it was released. I love that. Yeah.
00:01:15
Speaker
ah This is going to be excellent. This is going to be excellent. I love that. um like yeah feel like I feel like I have to preface this with, i she's not somebody that I know a ton about. Okay. Yeah. know i've I've been learning more and more as I've been going down the whole brat rabbit hole, yep but i not that I haven't paid attention to her because she's always come out. The rabbit hole? Right. She's always come out with bangers every once in a while where I'm like, oh, work, that's incredible. yeah But as far as like albums, I never really like dove in on that type of level. I am 100% there with you. I have to say, this is the album but from Charlie that opened my personal floodgates to her discography. And I was like, OK, I definitely am now seeing the vision, I think. And I was like, I'm going to now open those doors and explore more. because very much like what you said, I was familiar with a lot of her music, yeah but there's also a lot of music that I was not familiar with or just not really even interested in. right right right For one reason or another, it's not that it's bad or that I didn't even disliked it or disliked Charlie. In fact, I love Charlie. What was the name of the last album? Crash. Crash, crash. i think And you know what? Because I think that was the first time that I actually listened to a full Charlie album. yeah And I liked it. I didn't love it. I liked it. I remember the um lightning was a track that I really loved on that album. But there wasn't anything that I was like, oh, I really have to kind of dig in and and see.
00:02:43
Speaker
Right. Yeah. And I would say like my first, I'm trying to think of like, what was my first song from Charli X6? The one that comes to mind for me that like really made me be like, Oh, I love this song is her song Gone with Christine and the Queen. Oh yeah. From the Charli, I think it was the self titled album from 2019. And that song in particular, I think that was the first Charli X6 single where I was like, Oh no, the slaps. So I don't think I really knew who Charli XCX was so much until I started working at Peloton.
Charli XCX's Musical Journey and Collaborations
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Because I want to say, I think it was Jess King that turned me onto the track, Drop That Kitty. This is like 2015 Charli XCX. I love that. And then after, I don't know if it's before or after. i'm Again, I'm not that super familiar, but I also then I feel like that's the boom clap era. Obviously love that.
00:03:36
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and then i see fancy. Yeah. And then I started like, okay, so I was like, she's going to be around. She's going to stick around this one. I can see that she's she's working at it. But yeah, and I feel like it was just so sort of like in the ether. yeah Yeah. Yeah. And then she like started going down this very experimental route. A lot of people label it hyper pop. She seems to be indifferent about that term. um I think that there's a very specific genre of hyper pop and she does have There's a very big hyper pop act called 100 Gex, and half half of them...
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is on one of the writing credits on this album. I think it's one of the bonus tracks. Oh, okay. It's the song Guess. Oh, interesting. Yeah, so I think it's Dylan Brady from 100 Gex. He's, he that is actual like hyper pop. His music, that's, yeah. Okay, that is fun too. Okay, I love this. Okay, that's fun. I'm excited to go down this brat bit hole, if you will. But um I really appreciate her experimentation. Oh, let me tell you the last year on my Spotify wrapped. Yeah. Tiesto and Charlie XCX. Hot in it. Hot in it. Hot in it. One of the best songs she's ever done as far as I'm concerned. Shake my ass don't stop in it. The video is phenomenal. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. Yeah, she's yeah. So but I have to say this is the first album of hers that I've listened to in full where I felt for me it was completely captured and captivated.
00:05:04
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And it's it's fascinating. And and i don't know I don't know if it's because I always lean towards dance pop and electronic style music. It is. styled music Totally is. it It is. It is. Totally is. um Still waiting for that collaboration with Gina G Charlie. Right. um But that would be wild. Yeah. Yeah. Gina G found, waiting. Wade, she's waiting. She's waiting. um And they can't be that far away from each other. They're both in the UK. Yeah, they're both in the UK. They're probably neighbors. Right, right. Aren't they all? They all live next to each other. Honestly, looking at Charli's discography and knowing her affinity for collaborating with people, I feel like it would be completely on brand for her to collaborate with gene Gina G. Without a doubt.
00:05:49
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I'm going to put that into the universe right now. This is my official campaign for Charli XCX and Gina G to get together, do a collaboration. Maybe, maybe it starts with a sample of ooh ah just a little bit. I was just gonna say that you could really like if she was my she could absolutely turn that into a beyond banger. Oh my God. I'm already getting goosebumps. I was thinking about it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Whoa. We need to slow down. But, um, cause my Gina G spot's about to get hit. Like I. The Gina G spot. The Gina G spot. Gina? Um, but holy shit. Yeah. So, okay. So based on your reaction,
00:06:29
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I'm assuming the album maybe did not grab you the way it grabbed me. I think that there are a lot of, so there's a few songs that really, really stand out. And one of them actually is one of the bonus ones. Okay. but there was probably maybe like three or four songs that I was like, all right, they're okay. yeah It's fine. sure There was one I actually really didn't like. um And I actually think my note says, I don't like this one. I love that. Which again, but very subjective, like I always say.
00:06:59
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It's just an opinion. We all have them. We all have them. And that is A-OK. And that's again, that's the thing with stan culture. People need to start understanding that just because someone doesn't like something doesn't mean that we wish the artist ill will. Right. We're not wishing the songwriters and the producers ill will at all. We are just expressing that not everything. We are not going to love everything. Right. That would be quite. Yeah. Did you see that thing recently where people on TikTok didn't understand that the term stan culture came from Eminem? No, I did not see that. Oh my God, I saw this whole thing where people couldn't believe and they were just like, it's somebody, I think it was because he just released a new song. Yeah. And people were talking about it and a lot of like younger kids, I mean, and why would they know? But they had no idea that it came from the music video for Stan. Wow. And that's where this all came. Right. And I was like, Oh my God, I was like, we've gone that far.
00:07:48
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I feel I feel and then that's that's the thing. It's ah it's just kind of like, you know, I would say like Stan culture is interesting to me because I feel like like you and I we are fans of music. We love the artists. We love the producers, songwriters. We we you know, I think that we absorb music in a different way than most people for sure. Stans seem to do that as well, but there seems to be this hyper fixated idolatry thing happening. It's this parasocial relationship, you know, where it's like, yeah, you you feel like you I don't even know how to describe it where it's like, it's, you're so involved that that you can't see if things are good or bad, you lose the ability to discern like,
00:08:40
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And I can never tell if it's a, if it's a front, if it's like a facade or like a persona that they're putting on on social media for fun, or if they're actually that way. And to me, that's the scary part of it is that because I brought up in a previous episode where there were these two Stan Twitter gays who were, one ended up flying to the other person's house and then they're like, the cops were called. It was this whole thing. Oh my god. It's it's actually quite funny. Like parts of it were documented. Stop. But funny and like funny and a like, I, I feel bad for you and embarrassed for you. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because because one was like Stan Twitter come to my house and the other one actually flew and was like, Nicki Minaj is the queen of rap, fuck Dua Lipa, things like that. Yeah, not Nikki versus Dua. It was so the dumbest thing.
00:09:28
Speaker
It was so weird, but also it just opened my eyes because I was like, it was like when I look at my Instagram account and I'm so reading the comments from people and seeing what people are saying, I was like, these are the types of people that I'm interacting with. Like this is not a normal, mind and I don't want them to know like sit there. I don't know if there's any cognitive, you know, differences or anything like that. I don't want to assume, but it seems that way. I mean, I will say and by the time that this episode comes out, it will already be in the world that ah I did meet a remix for Cher for Song for the Lonely. You sure did. And it is phenomenal. Thank you. I actually just posted about it on Instagram and like my hands are still shaking. I'm like still sweating a little bit. Congratulations. That is you so huge.
00:10:15
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When I was a teenager, not a teenager, like late teen, early 20, I was so incredibly obsessed with her. And this is like, just as like Stan culture was becoming at the, I used to ask guys on first dates, do you like Cher? And if they didn't, I never saw them again. oh And it was it. And I would go out on the date and just enjoy it. And that was it. But in my mind, I'm like, well, this is never going to work. Well, here's the thing. You've got Stan culture and then you have religion. Right. Right. Right. And Cher is religion. Right. But that's also a very, very blurry line. like Right. No, for sure. And in fact, someone brought up on Twitter. I'm going to completely butcher this, but they were basically saying like there should be there. should There probably should be and probably will be a new like psychological term for Stan culture where
00:10:59
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There are specific type of people within Stan culture who truly do put the artists. Everything about that artist comes first. Oh, yeah. And we see that a lot with. Swifties. Oh, yeah, we see that. We see that everybody. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. The Rianni Navy, the Beehive. Yeah. Did you see what Rihanna said at that lot, girl? but Are you talking about her, I'm sorry, re starting restarting? Restarting R9. Restarting R9. Keep it. It's been how many years? Keep it. Right. Right. I'm good. Right. I'm good. I am good. At this point, right I love Rihanna. So much. I love her so much. She is such a solid catalog of music. Beyond.
00:11:49
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I don't know if at this point she can release anything that is going to live up to the hype that has been surrounding this fictitious album for the last at least five years. And I have to be honest, I feel like that that has to be part of what's holding this up. Yeah. Oh, it has to be. Because now we're getting into like Normani cat, you know, territory. is says You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, like where we're just like, it's, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming. Right. Right. Now it's turning into religion because so is Jesus. And we haven't, maybe we'll see Jesus first. Yeah. Right. I think we are. I think we are the second coming. right
00:12:25
Speaker
Like, i it's it's it's wild. And and the thing is, like, I get it. Rihanna has a she her businesses are flourishing. She doesn't need money. She doesn't do anything. She's like, I'm going to make my babies. right I'm going to do my business and live my life. Good for good for you. Right. But I will say, like, at this point, like to tease music when you know your fans want it and then to say that. i was It was just one of those things where I was just kind of like, at this point, i right i it's just stop talking about it. Don't acknowledge it. And that's what I think it is. Yeah. Don't talk about it. Because I feel like if you're just going to, if you're like, OK, my new thing is now I'm going to be in the hair business. yeah Cool. And we'll roll with that for a little bit and see what that's like. but
00:13:10
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Yeah. Don't mention it. Don't mention it. You know because like look Gaga does this and I think she does it well where she's like alright today I'm gonna have my black turtleneck on and I'm gonna be doing house lab stuff and that's gonna be the thing and we're gonna roll that out for a few months and then maybe there'll be a music thing and then maybe there'll be a music but she oh it's always there Rihanna is just sort of like well yeah once upon a time. I mean, I want to say it was 2018 or 2019 where fans that she had posted something in July and it was that clip from Real Housewives where she was like, you guys, she lied. She lied. And she's holding up the papers. Yes. And it was her like referring to like fans being like she lied about release the the album or whatever. Yeah.
00:13:48
Speaker
I mean, she did i like she did lie. She should kind of did. Right. But yeah, I mean, that was like, again, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. It is twenty twenty four. Just to make just be clear and wild. I can't believe the last album we got was anti anti and it was we our president was Barack Obama. Stop. Girl, keep it. Keep it. Keep it. Keep it. We don't need it. Keep it. What what does Rihanna sound like in a post-Trump era? I have no idea. It's insane to think about. like i just Wow. I didn't even think about it that way. That did that is wild. I know. Someone brought that up to me once and I was just like, I wish you didn't say that to me.
00:14:30
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like Now I'm never going to have that out of my brain. I'm so sorry to all the listeners out there. Seriously. I'm just kind of like, and here's the thing too. There's been so many rumors about the Rihanna album or albums. There were, there were, there was allegedly a two-part album. Allegedly there was one that was like pop dance and then one that was ah reggae and But who knows I mean who knows at this point what it was if she even recorded anything Look, it's gonna she's gonna come back with an album and it's just gonna be like nothing but her an ASAP Rocky
00:15:02
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here collaboration album. Right. That's it. Yeah. ASAP. Yeah. Well, as soon as possible, Rocky, as soon as possible. Well, we're going to, I would say let me maybe change the name ASAP because it's a little bit slower than that. soker Yep. Moving at a a glacial pace is being nice. ah um But someone who does not move at a glacial pace is Ms. XCX. There it is. makes axiacc yeah knew we We were going to bring it back. We were going to bring it back. um This album, so for me, I have to say, so ah to go back to Brat, I
00:15:40
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you know, when I first heard Von Dutch, I loved Von Dutch and I thought it was really fun. I thought it was very cunty. I love the music video. um And then she released ah she released club classics and back to back. And now one thing that Charlie, especially more recent Charlie that she's notorious for is the short song of it all. Right. And we all know my feelings at this point about short music. Yeah. And so I was like, I i specifically, I listened to the songs, ah like maybe once or twice. This is also like when car by Cowboy Carter had just been released. oh yeah And so Cowboy Carter really had my heart and soul and in that moment, and so does. But um i I was like, I listened to it, but and I was like, you know what? I don't want to spoil this album experience for myself.
00:16:27
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Because between the teasing of music on on social media and then releasing, you know, half of your songs prior to the album comes out, it does, at least for me, ruin that experience. It kind of, I don't have that climactic excitement, you know? I i still don't know that anybody's really, I think Beyonce but probably has gotten the closest, maybe Taylor now too, but I just don't know that anybody really can pull this off anymore in the digital age or I don't... Pull what off? ah Just the whole like what you're saying, like the buildup and like how albums used to be rolled out and like all of that stuff. Like it's that long lasting excitement we burn through projects so quickly now.
00:17:12
Speaker
It's so quick and quick. Yeah. I mean, to really to quote Beyonce, it's like it's it's you really single and it burns out. It was another single. It burns out. Nobody. And then she says nobody makes albums anymore. Nobody makes albums anymore. no they Nobody. Nobody. Nobody. Nobody. God is real.
00:17:29
Speaker
It's one of my favorite things, that whole documentary. That whole documentary, it really is. Is that the one where the the run the world, a um wrote the dancers are leaving and she's crying? Yes, I think so. Yes. And it's documentaries, I think is life is but a dream. It was like an HBO special. I love. I have it on TV. Yes, I sure do. Why did it make me cry? I know. and She says I was so good. But yeah, so so I'm glad I did that because and then she released 360, which I think is an absolute bop.
00:18:01
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It's the obvious one for sure. Hands down. Hands down. Yeah. And it's an earworm. I remember when 360 first came out, I was like, I was like, oh, this is really cute. And then like it started getting stuck in my head and I was like, wait a minute. And it goes back and it goes back. I was saying to Jeff the other day, I was like, I think Charlie is hell bent on specifically getting me to get into the short song of it all and to get on board. I'm not saying it's completely working, but I will say this album for me there, I would say she's found a way for not all of them, but a lot of them has made it work. I think that part of this does go back to the hyper pop of it all because hyper pop itself as a genre tends to be very short and fast. Yeah. And the influences are all over this album. But I think that so like
00:18:54
Speaker
If you're from the East Coast or you know New York well, you'll understand what I'm saying. But this album and I feel like a lot of her aura and just like how she presents herself, how she markets herself, how she does all this stuff, it gives very sort of Bushwick Brooklyn. It's this sort of like the artsy friend where you've got one that looks like Fuzzy Bear and ones that looks like mixed piggy and one that, you know, like they're all sort of like the Sesame Street of it all. Yeah. It's it's like that sort of cast of characters like you know, the people that she works with are very of that type of environment. And that's not a bad thing by any means. It's a great thing. But it's, I just think that it's her whole presence gives this kind of like, eh, eh. And I think it's also because she's from Essex too, which is, if you know things about London, like it's that sort of like street edge kind of like, I don't even know, maybe street edge is not bad as I'm disappointing all of our UK listeners.
00:19:42
Speaker
Right, yeah. As I'm trying to talk about that. but The tens and tens of you. Right. um Because the only thing I've seen is like Ram Norton. and i Right, yeah, yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I just feel like it's very, very that. So like, I feel like gay bars in Brooklyn are are eating this up like like every weekend. eating it alive yeah and yeah and that's the thing is that you know I'm still diving into my my charlie lore and and you figuring her out as an artist or you know one thing I will say I love watching her interviews yeah and I and I revisited her interview with Zane Lowe for the Crash album and I was fascinated with her
00:20:20
Speaker
Yeah, I love how honest she is. That's it. It's just she says it how it is. She says it how it is. I love that she loves being a pop star and isn't like afraid because so many pop stars these days love to be like, oh, yeah, I listen to like Bob Dylan. No disrespect to Bob Dylan. No. But she loves pop music, dance music, club music, and is unabashedly afraid to talk about it. like I remember in one of her earlier interviews from a few years back on Watch What Happens Live, she was talking about, I Got a Feeling by ah Black Eyed Peas being like one of her favorite songs of all time. and i was like And I was like, And I was like, but I was like, that song gets so much shit, but probably because it's become a wedding song. Without a doubt. And, had you know, was overplayed to death when it was first release. And, you know, to this day, it's become just one of those songs. But I was like, I love that she says shit like this and and isn't afraid to be like, yeah, like, I love this. I know. I just know it's just very like, yes, and very. Yes.
00:21:22
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And. But it is. so that show with yeah and and sit Saying completely not with her chest.
00:21:34
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yeah yeah
00:21:38
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but um should we i mean Should we get into a a little track by track moment? let Let's do it. so i mean We already kind of talked about 360. I think the obvious hit off the album, the obvious most i think I would say probably the most pop song. Oh, for sure. but Produced by Circuit. who Produced by a circuit. Yes. Who just had a run with Mr. Justin Timberlake, which I realized as I was typing these notes, I never listened to that album. Oh, really? me I know why one song that I actually heard that wasn't bad. That was ah my my favorite. drug My favorite drug. That's my I was OK. Get out of my brain. I was not kidding you two nights ago talking about this with Jeff, my favorite drug and fucking up the disco to me are the probably the two best songs in the album.
00:22:20
Speaker
Yeah, I had to I had to work on something because when we did the classes for Peloton, I had to do I worked on somebody's custom mix for something to make sure that ah I don't know, the class went really, really smoothly. And yeah, I that song was in the playlist and I was listening to it as I was but as I was working on it. And I'm like, ah, Yeah, this is pretty good. I actually really kind of like this. Right? You're like, you're like, Brandy, don't listen. Brandy, turn around. buy the room Yeah, exactly. but i But I mean, I, one thing that Justin does really well is a beat switch. Right. And when that beat switched, I was like, okay.
00:22:52
Speaker
yeah it's like I love this. but I let the tiniest slip out of my mouth. Exactly. right Exactly. The tiniest little you better work straight away. All right, bitch. All right. I see you. I see you. Yeah. Also, I had a production note for Fucking Up the Disco where there was like a I'd have to go back. I haven't listened, revisited the song in a couple of months, but There's a part where I was like, they should have done this like choppy vocal effect with like a foot. And I was like, if they had done that, that would have made the song completely top tier for me. But they didn't. So you don't get that top tier. Sorry, Jay. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. We keep getting too real. Actually, I want to see if you know, because this is the one of the things because I was listening just to make sure I had this all fresh in my mind today for the BRAD album. so Oh, yes. Today. I like how she says you go and jump if AG made it. A shout out to Alexander, AG Cook.
00:23:44
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which I think is great who's co-written and produced a lot of this but she keeps saying I'm so Julia yeah Julia Fox that's what I thought I wasn't sure if it was Julia Fox but I figured it was and that see but like you said she knows clearly who she is And she is unabashedly making references because she's like, you know what? It may be niche to other people, but for the girls gays in the days, they are going to know exactly who I'm talking about. They know exactly. And she's making music for us. I mean, she knows her audience and she's like, I'm going to give you. She's literally saying I'm going to give the gays everything they want, the gays, the gays and the ladies. I also want to say, speaking of circuit, my first introduction to circuit was his remix for Kasia's Blow.
00:24:28
Speaker
Yes, that was the first time I remember seeing it. Yeah, his name. That was and i because I think that, you know, and I don't don't know if he still works with Dr. Luke, but at one time and I think brought into the mainstream culture circuit was a protege of Dr. Luke. And and since you brought up Dr. Luke, I just happened to catch a clip of Kelly Clarkson on TikTok talking where she was interviewed about this and how she was saying that there were songs which I'm guessing were either on all I ever wanted or stronger. I don't know because those are the, I feel like the two albums that they work the most on together maybe, but how she was saying that she, she didn't even take writing credit on some songs because she just didn't want to have her name associated with him like that. Right. Yeah. That was for my life would suck without you. Yes. Yes. It was that song. I was like, oh, my girl. I mean, I love Kelly and I love to hear her talk about that type of shit. And I was like, oh, wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I know um it's wild. But yeah, 360 banger Bob. We stand the remix with Robin and Young Young Lean. Yeah. um And I do hear Robin's influence on this album, too, for sure. Yeah, absolutely. There was one of the songs. We'll get to it later on.
00:25:41
Speaker
um where I said it felt like a Robin song. Ooh, I'm curious to know your thoughts. If it's we might have a similar thought on that. I can't wait to to get there. So next we have Club Classics, which is I would say like Jersey Bounce. That's exactly what I wrote. Jersey Club. Yeah. Yeah. um I feel like with her doing like this whole boiler room thing that she had just done, that style of thing like this was this is perfect for that. This is energy. Yes, absolutely. And it's a fun song. Very silly. Doesn't take herself too seriously. I love that. I want to dance with George. I want to dance with Sophie. Girl, I literally that was part of my notes with those lyrics. I literally wrote down I want to dance with AG. I want to dance to Sophie.
00:26:23
Speaker
Yes. yeah Oh, my God. Yeah. All right. And Sophie, we miss. All right. We miss you, Sophie. And yeah, I think it's a very fun song. um Not my favorite song on the album, but it completely fits the theme and the mood of the album. And I think really sets the start. I think 360 introduces you. Yeah. And then Club Classics kind of sets the tone. Yeah, I didn't see the show, unfortunately. I don't know what the set list was, but I feel like if I if i was going to put it, Club Classics would probably be the intro song for me if I was planning her stage show. Oh, sure, sure, sure. Oh, that's right, because she was just in New York. She was just in New York. In Brooklyn. Yeah, a couple of people from my team went, and they had like the best time. i My friend Andrew went, and it looked like an amazing show. Yeah, it looked like it smelled like poppers.
00:27:13
Speaker
It looked exactly like that. It was poppers and everyone, it didn't matter if you were doing them or not. Right, right. You left there smelling like them. but for ah For all the straight people, that's VHS cleaner for you. ah Yeah, exactly, exactly. um So then that brings us to sympathy as a knife. my favorite on the album. Really? I loved this. You know why? Because I felt like, and I actually, a lot of my notes reference certain bits of Gaga. Because I feel like she is 100% a disciple in that way. Oh, for sure. Like there's influences here. Yeah. But the way that the verses are so like, not monotone, but sort of have like a one note-ness to them. And then the chorus, the way that it changes reminds me of the really big shift like in Shiza.
00:28:02
Speaker
Oh, I love that. Yeah. The verses of it, whatever. And then I don't want to be. on that And it like really opens up. I feel like that's what the chorus does here. And it has that sort of tough pop production of that era that I love. I love that. That is that's a really brilliant like reference because I didn't piece that together. But now that you say that, I completely understand what you're saying. yeah And ah yeah, this is ah I think this is a great song. I think the lyrics. So I'm not one to typically listen to lyrics right away. And to actually, I won't even lie. Like sometimes it takes me a minute for me to really understand what artists are saying in the song or what story they're trying to tell. And this one, though, I feel like I kind of gravitated to right away. It's definitely another song about anxiety um and just feeling like
00:28:51
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unsure with with the voices in your head and things of that nature. And so I actually really related a lot to that. I think I've dealt with I think there's a lot of imposter syndrome being kind of as being like a subliminal. Oh, for sure. Message of that song. Yeah. um And that's something that I wrestle with very much both in my personal life and in my professional life. Amen. So so I was just like, so yeah, this one really spoke to me. It was kind of hard to go from this song to the next, though. Yeah, and i and I have a thought about the sequencing of the album, but I might save that for the end. But it does take us into, I might say something stupid, um which is one of the they handful, I think there's only two ballads really on the album. Yeah. This is produced by, how do I say this, Guesselstein? I'm not really, really sure, to be honest. I think it's Guessefelstein. Okay, Guessefelstein. I think. I could be wrong. Don't quote me on that, but he's French, even though it sounds German. Oh, okay. Fooled me. Right. So that's why it's like, I think that there's something weird there too. I'm not really sure, but yeah. so Okay. and I'm familiar with his stuff. And when I listened to this song in the vocal production, it very much sounds like his style to me. Okay. He has another song on here with her as well later on.
00:30:09
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that sounds very much like one of his tracks like the drum beats everything so yeah I really I'm a fan of his so I I'm this was not what I thought I was going to get with him I think the second song that they did together it feels more like what I would expect this was kind of a surprise where I was like oh I kept waiting for it to do something I didn't know because everything else was so high energy. And I was like, all right, maybe this is just a little intro moment. I was going to say I would say I was actually shocked to hear the sound of this song because of the way that she was describing the album as a club song or club album and a rave album. Right. So to hear this like very stripped back ballad, I was like, I was like, oh, like was not expecting this at all. I have to say shockingly. OK, again, a minute and 49 seconds.
00:30:57
Speaker
Mm hmm. Mm hmm. But I have to say, I almost view this song as an interlude. OK. And not. And so and so in my head, because again, if you were under two minutes, you basically, in my personal opinion, and an interlude at this point. Right. Right. But I think, again, going from Sympathy as a Knife into this song, while it feels very like jolting. Yeah. it kind of makes sense because it's kind of like a follow-up to this song about anxiety and a song about, you know, kind of second guessing yourself and feeling you like you don't belong anymore. Oh, you know what? I actually really like that because I hadn't thought that way before. And now I think I might actually have a little bit more context for that when I listen next time.
00:31:40
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Yeah. And so I will say it's not my, not my favorite song on the album by any means, but I have been listening to this album sequentially. I've also skipped around to it. So that's been kind of fun because I, I, again, with Amer or with a cowboy Carter, I feel very guilty. right if I skip around. so i feel like i've i With this one, I feel like it's I can bounce around. but um But I have listened to it sequentially a lot. And I will say that the more times I do that, I was like, this actually makes sense. But I'll get to my comment about sequencing later. then And then that brings us to Talk Talk.
00:32:14
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Four on the floor banger. Four on the floor banger. Is this the one that reminds you of Robin? and ah No, it wasn't the one that I had written down, but I absolutely, now I'm thinking about it back. Yes, absolutely. I could see the influence here too, yeah but it's so good. I love this. I love this one. This would be such a good single. Yes, it would be a really good single. The melody is really good. Yes. Oh, well, I think that we're getting some. I mean, I hope so. I hope she I hope she goes like almost like the Dawn of Chromatica route and just gives us a remix album. Maybe not all those people, but you know. Right. Right. Other people. Right. Exactly. No, I think that she did confirm that there is a remix album. Oh, so so based on the boiler room set.
00:33:00
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There was a lot of remixes of these songs plus other songs used. And then on Las Culturistas, she was saying they were talking about, I think, Mary Crosby or someone on a housewife. But then she said, oh, yeah, on the remix record, it'll just be all her. But the fact that she said on the remix record, right, they got people being like, oh, so she's confirmed this because she's been performing a remix of 365 with Shy Girl. Oh. Yeah. So we know that that's in the works. I believe I there's a there's actually several remixes that have been kind of confirmed. I love sugar. um yeah i do too I love her. She doesn't get I really hope she does something I deal with a record label a lot and they're like the nicest people like Oh, really? Yeah.
00:33:46
Speaker
Someone on my Instagram, because I used to, I had done one of my um obscure pop ah pop songs post to kind of celebrate a bunch of queer artists that ah that I oftentimes don't feel like either get talked about another where they're or they're very indie and like Z machine, Rossi, John Duff, um but I included shy girl in there. And someone commented shy girls, not obscure. And I was like, shot name one straight person who is familiar with Shy Girl. right Please. but like That doesn't live in Brooklyn. Right. like right I need the gays to understand what we mean when we say mainstream. yeah like Mainstream means like Jane in Wyoming knows who this is. Exactly. You know what I mean? like You're hearing this like at CBS.
00:34:34
Speaker
You know what I mean? Like, I don't hear shy girl at Walgreens. I'm not hearing BDE at Walgreens. No, I really wish I was. I do too. I do too. Don't get me wrong. Love, love when I hear Ms. Paula Cole on the radio. I know love i love that too, but there's a room for it all. Right. Right. Right. But Miss Miss Shy Girl, we think that she should be more mainstream. We we wish that people recognized her. I hope that that will happen. Yes. um But let's be real. Yeah. There there has to be ah there has to be levels here. Yeah. You know, because it's also I feel like you start to lose um the specialness of like a community with that artist where it's like like somebody like Charlie, like I think that there are straight people who probably know who she is, but their point of reference if I
00:35:19
Speaker
If I was to explain Charlie to most people, I'd have to be like, oh, she was the girl from fancy. Yes. Yes. You know her from this. And that happened to me at work today. I asked a coworker, I was like, I i was like, have you listened to the new Charlie XCX album? And he was like, I don't really know if I can name a song of hers. Right. And then he referenced fancy and then my other coworker reference boom clap. Right. and And so I was like, good job. 2015, guys. Good job. yeah Good job, you guys. I was like, we're not we're not almost 10 years away from that. Oh, God, that's crazy. Yeah, I know. I know. OK, keep moving. Yeah. Yeah. So next we got Von Dutch, which we already talked about. Love. Love. Are you familiar with Princess Superstar? No. Oh, I feel it. No. No, she um they just did. a Her song was just in that Sulburn movie, too. OK, it's ah perfect. I think it's called Should a Big Hit with that. But it this kind of gives me vibes like that. Like it's very that sort of thing. And I love the whole.
00:36:16
Speaker
I'm your number one. I mean, that that's what really gives it that like, it really does. I was doing so I was doing a treadmill workout earlier today. And when that part came on, I actually I was like, here we go. Yeah, I was like, fuck it up. Fuck it up. um Yeah. And then that brings us to everything is romantic. I do like how it starts off with the strings of chromatica. It just feels like the interludes from chromatica. Yeah, absolutely. This was the song that I wrote. I don't like this one, though. Oh my gosh. I don't know. When it did pick up, it's not bad. It doesn't mean it's bad. It just wasn't for me.
00:36:58
Speaker
It's a weird song. yeah Yeah, it's a weird song. And there is definitely experimentation with the Brazilian funk of it all. um It is kind of all over the place. I completely see it. This seems to be a lot of people's favorites, like at least on oh on Twitter that I've been seeing. Right. um A lot of people love it. But this is also a song. So Jeff, when ah he and I were talking about the album, he was saying he actually wants remixes, front like the Boiler Room set remixes. yeah And i was like I was like, I'm writing this in the history books because Jeff is typically not a remix girl. hey And so I was like, and but he was like, I want the remixes of these songs. well and that's I feel like as much as it may not be something that I listen to, I recognize that something like this would probably pop off in a live show.
00:37:45
Speaker
And I think that that's because as experimental as her music is, I feel like her live shows will also be the same. Yeah. So it's definitely cohesive and I get it. And I totally like, yes, I'm here for it for her. But it's just it's just not something that I would really ever listen to. Just being like casual, yeah casual listening. Yeah, for sure. it's It's definitely a strange structure as well because again, it it starts kind of with that orchestral and then the those drums kick right in. right But they only last for about half the song and then the remainder of the song, it's it's kind of not orchestral, but it's like there's no really beat to it necessarily. So it is a strange song.
00:38:25
Speaker
i I enjoy it, but not one where I'm going out of my way to necessarily revisit when when I'm not listening to the album in sequence. you know right same yeah um But then that brings us to Rewind. Second favorite on the album. Oh my God. I love this. And not coincidentally, also produced by Circuit. circuit knows what he's doing. Yeah. ah The rewind noises that they use throughout, the way that the production, it's excellent. I'm a sucker for a rewind noise. Right. It is excellent. It's so well done. If there's a rewind sound in your song, there is a 90% chance that I will love it, or at least say, I love they did this. Right, right, right, right. No, no, it really is done so well. And it's a really fun, like it's a pop song.
00:39:14
Speaker
Mm hmm. Yeah. And again, a got a song about reflection, ah ah rewinding to simpler times to kind of paraphrase the song, um which I think that a lot of us can relate to. And it and it tell you earlier conversation before we started recording, like you and I were talking about how just time right now, it just feels like everything is so it's moving so fast. There's so many high expectations for everything. It's like work is always crazy. Personal life is crazy. yeah I'm having a hard time for myself personally, like just envisioning the next day, um not because I'm like trying to off myself, but just saying like right but just saying that there's so much going on that like I just feel like I have a very little time to sit down and just reflect and rewind, no if you will. Absolutely. Very well done. Very well done.
00:40:02
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I do a podcast. i don't um Yeah. But um but yeah, I love this song. Yeah, I love this. one I think it's just a great dance. Like the beat is fantastic. For sure. I'm i'm playing in Philadelphia this weekend and I'm going to see. I have to pick and choose because I can't just do all Charlie all night, but yeah I want to see like how they feel about it and where they're at with this whole thing. So there's a couple that I want to try to play. Yeah, yeah absolutely. um And then we get to the second ballad on the album. I think this one is sweet. I like it. I like this too. It sounds like something Rita Ora would sing.
00:40:37
Speaker
Oh my God. And she would probably love that. Right. shoot I think they're friends. yeah I think that. yu Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The song's about Sophie. Did you know that? Oh, I didn't. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. The song's about Sophie. And there's actually a lyric in this song where she talks about how she didn't answer her phone call around Christmas time. And that would have been the last time to have spoken to Sophie before Sophie passed away. And that was really heartbreaking to hear. Yeah. um My friend Andrew also pointed out, he said it sound, he thinks it samples. I was like, I don't think it's a, sample I don't think it's similar enough for it to be a sample, but he said it sounds similar to, um, Oh my gosh. It was, it's the Tuvalu song from the last year. Absolutely is. And I, and because I've been, as I was sitting there, I was trying to think of what song it is because it's,
00:41:29
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There's a few songs that it sounds like, but yes, yes. Yeah. No one dies from love. Yes. What is it? Nobody dies from love. Yeah. Yeah. It's that whole. Yeah, it's that part. Yeah. But I thought this is a really, it's like if Charli XX is going to do a ballad, this is the route. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely this versus the other ballad. But yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. So yeah. Beautiful song. Great gowns. Beautiful.
00:41:56
Speaker
Any chance to say that? Right, yeah. um And then we get to Girl So Confusing, which I love the lure around the rest of the one. Oh, see, I don't know it. Okay, so allegedly, this is about Lorde. Oh, so ah so some people wasn't she at the show? Yes. oh So yeah, which I like I love and also Lorde was like very quick to post about this album. And so what's interesting is that some so fans have been saying this is about Lorde, but other people have been saying it's about Marina and the Diamonds. Oh, very interesting. Very interesting. I don't know enough about Marina to know or or her relationship with Charlie to speak on that at all. But I do know like I was just thinking about the the ah lyric in specific about like, I want you to come to my potty and throw your hands in there. I love that she sings with the British accent. Right. Same. by the way And that's what which feels very Essex to me. Yes. Yes. Yes. But she speaks about, you know, partying and put your hands in the air. And I made me think of that lyric from Lorde, where she's like, I'm tired of people telling me to put my hands in the air. So they're from team. And I'm not a huge Lorde fan, but I remember that lyric specifically because the team came out during the very tail end of that the big EDM era. So and that's so I think Lorde's album is what kind of moved pop music in a new direction of being a little bit more down tempo and stripped back.
00:43:19
Speaker
um So anyway, that's why interesting. Yeah, see, and this was this was the second song that I wrote not my fav on. No, but not my fav. I said, but I do. I think it was in the verses. So like in the verses, I feel like this is the this is the point where I really want. I want to understand what you're saying because that's where the meat of the song is. like The chorus is going to repeat, but the verse is usually different. so like I want to be able to really sink in. there Whatever that synth is that's happening during the verse, it's just it's too much for me. and I'm like, if you just took that out and I could actually hear like what what she was doing a lot more clearly, yeah I think it'd be more on board, but it's something about the production that feels a little distracting for me.
00:43:59
Speaker
Charlie loves to seem to play around with noisy sounds, things that aren't necessarily sonically pleasing to the ear. yes And I would say there's a couple songs on here that do that. And yeah you're right, you're very right with that. um But yeah, I love that it's potentially about Lorde, and I love that Lorde seems to be here for it. That's so funny. I love that. Yeah. yeah um Because like because she's talking about, like that they say that they say that we're alike they say we have the same hair, And, and I'm like, Yeah, yeah, you kind of do. You kind of do seem similar, especially right now with with Charlie's like really long dark hair. Right. Um, but yeah.
00:44:37
Speaker
tv start Maybe she'll say one day, maybe she won't. Who knows? um But then that brings us to Apple. I love this. It's a cute song. It's so like 80's synth poppy. It really is so good. There's a like a so a band that it made me think of. And I can't think of who it is now, of course, that I'm on the spot. But yeah, very 80's synth pop. Yeah, it's ah it's it gives me like I just want to be dumb and hot vibes. I love that. You know that? you like Just like in the sunshine. I want to be dumb and hot. Just dumb and hot. Gee, how does being dumb and hot happen? And this one is co-written by, do you know who Noony Bao is? B-A-O?
00:45:17
Speaker
I've seen the name tossed around on the internet. I'm not familiar, and I know that they've, or she's written songs on other albums, but I'm not super familiar with her. She's done a bunch with Charlie. She did Vroom Vroom. She did Co-wrote Carly Rae's Run Away With Me. We love that. Okay, we love that. Yes, Zed Stay with Alessia Cowera. She co-wrote that. Okay. And also Troye Sivan's dance to this, but she has like a serious amount of writing credits. Wow. Okay. You get you go noony. Noony. I love that section. She's got some like long Swedish name. I think that's like an alias. Cute. I love that. Yeah, for her. I want but i love this i wonder if she's the friend. Does noony have a baby? Oh, I don't know. I don't know much about her.
00:45:57
Speaker
So we'll get to the song later, but there's a song coming up in a couple of tracks that is allegedly. Well, it's not allegedly. She said it's about my friend, songwriting friend who just had a baby. Oh, and so I'm here and lives in Sweden, I think. So i oh that it has to be her. So I'm wondering if it is noony. And now we've got back to back. The second Gisselle Steen song. yep This is the one that i'm I'm here for. I love this one. yeah I love it. I love that like housey beat, but it's just slightly slower than your typical house beat. right That it's very sexy. It's it's it's kind of like industrial and it's like the intro to this song. Sorry, my laptop just went away. The intro to this song is very much like what a lot of his music sounds like.
00:46:45
Speaker
So that's why as soon as it started, I was like, Oh, this is 100% him. 100%. Yeah, it's so fun. And then there's a so part specifically, like, again, I love a lot of the repetitive lyrics and repetitive, like, ah words on the album, I think it really actually adds a lot to this whole dance vibe. um And the part where she's like, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, but that part specifically, I don't know why it just my brain is like oh yes like it just like, Give me more. Also, one of my followers, Tommy, he because I was like telling him about the album, he's a huge Madonna fan. work and And so this is one of the songs that he absolutely loved. work and And I do think that there is a Madonna-esque vibe to it, yeah something about it. yeah Yeah, no, I definitely feel that, for sure.
00:47:33
Speaker
Yeah, but again, this is one of the also the promo tracks that came out before the album was released that I listened to only about once or twice and then purposely stayed away from it until the album was released. Right? Yeah. So and then that comes we come to Mean Girls. I think this is fine. This is it's nice. I i love it. but just I love it. And I especially love the piano part, the piano like breakdown. I really appreciated that. Yes. I ah and maybe I'm just like completely speaking out of nowhere, but.
00:48:09
Speaker
I oftentimes feel like dance pop music gets a a lot of shit for being too electronic, made by a computer. for sure And for me, it feels like maybe it is a commentary on like, oh, you think this is all just like computer sounds, AI, whatever. Like here's an instrumental breakdown, like piano breakdown. Right. him out Right. Right. And it's probably not that. But I just I loved it. I know. And it's so that's always so weird to me because it's just like people are so surprised. Like it's called electronic dance music. Like what do you think is going to happen? But like it doesn't just happen on its own. Like you're right. It's electronic. But it's a keyboard. Yeah. You still have to. You still have to play it. You have to structure program. and like all I can't even imagine what. Yeah. What it goes into it. and You would know.
00:48:58
Speaker
Right. That's what I'm saying. It's a lot. And that's why, and but it's, it's, I just got used to people not, you know, I, why would anybody know? I understand that, but. Yeah. You know what song this reminds me of when those hard synths kind of start at the beginning, it makes me think of sexy bitch by David Guetta. I'm kind of here for that, though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. sure I like what she says. ah She worships Lana Del Rey and her AirPods. I like that line. Yeah. I also like the fingering her Gold Cross. Yes. yeah and i And I was just like, how can I turn that into a meme? And then we come to the song we mentioned earlier, I think about it all the time about her, you know, thinking about should she have a baby? Should she not? She's in that moment of life where she's her friend is, you know, has had a baby and and now knows something that she doesn't.
00:49:40
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Right. My note for this one says, I don't like this one either.
00:49:46
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It's like I said, it's fine. It's just not something I would listen to. Sure. Yeah. Right. Yep. This I would skip. Yeah. And this song is I think it's cute. I have to say it's grown on me more and more with each listen. um And the melody does get stuck in my head quite a lot, especially for a song where that I was like, I don't know if I like this. um To me, the song sounds like frou-frou. Ooh. Yeah, I was like, I was pulling that out of nowhere. I was just like, it to me, this is like I was like, this is from the Garden State soundtrack. Right. Right. um Which I'm kind of here for. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it does have that. It definitely does have that. Yeah. Like just that that like that plinky kind of it's like it's like it's not a ballad, but it's not your typical four on the floor dance track either by any means. um But it's kind of like just I think plinky would be a really good way to describe this plinky.
00:50:40
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Um, and now we come to 365. I'm going to let you take this one first because I felt like I was a little crazy when I was listening to this. Okay, this and you've heard it here first. This may be my song of the year. Oh. I'm just I'm just saying, I'm just saying. No, we need a sound effect when when something like that happens that we can feel. It's like ah we need like a... right okay but you know I love it. You love it. okay I love it. Yeah, I love it. Because it was throwing me off between 360 and 365. Yeah. And I was like, what's happening here? Are these the same songs? Right. Yeah. i Well, that's kind of OK. So this is where 365
00:51:29
Speaker
How do I even describe what I'm trying to say? But what I love about it, one, that she kind of essentially samples herself in her own song. I love that it's a bookend. I love that it starts with 360 and ends with 365. And the reason why I love the bookend of it all is because when I used to DJ, I used to do that a lot. I used to kind of start a lot of my sets with something and kind of do it. To me, it's almost kind of like a, is it reprise or reprise? I think it depends on how fancy you want to be, but either work. I'm feeling fancy, I'll say reprise. But to it's kind of like a reprise in a way, where it's a continuation of 360. I love how one minute in, she said, we're gonna go somewhere. right We're gonna go on a little journey. Let me shift this. Let's shift this a little bit. The way that the song morphs into this just electro dance and ending with,
00:52:28
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i an electro club, I mean, like kind of reminiscent of Satisfaction by Benidomasi. For sure, for sure, yeah. I was stunned when I heard this song. Well, because I mean, if you think about it, somebody who's, I don't know how old she is, but if you it really would make sense that that would also have been a big song for her. She's 31 years old. Yeah. So that makes sense. That adds up. It's to me a brilliant track. And truly, if I'm being completely honest, I think an explosive track like this is what has been missing from the pop music stratosphere for a very long time. Yeah.
00:53:11
Speaker
And that is no shade to anyone. There has been so much fantastic pop dance music that's come out in the last decade. But really, it's really rare when we get a song like this that truly builds and right actually delivers that explosion the way you think and the way you want it to. No, I definitely agree because it's like I feel like we've been stuck in this and it's cute, but we've been stuck in this sort of like Dua Lipa dance the night, me espresso, like this sort of like lounge disco pop, which is great. And I love it. And I'm glad that the girls have beats behind them. And that's totally cool. But it's like, yeah, it's it's giving same.
00:53:52
Speaker
It's giving same. It's giving same. So this song is not giving same at all. Like this is just like, no, we're going to do this. And yeah, listen, F slurs, listen, F slurs. And also I kept laughing with Jeff because I was like, I love that this is like my favorite song on the album. And it's totally about doing cocaine at a party. and Things that you do absolutely do not do. Things that I've never done. I never will do. I'm very straight edge and um i I'm obsessed. i yeah can't I can't wait to see my June replay, Apple replay. Oh my God.
00:54:27
Speaker
it's going to be like You're a faggot. i know Gina G and Charlie XCX. Divas! What world am I living in? Oh my god. These are my pride divas. Main pop girls. Gina G and Charlie XCX. Oh my god. Obsessed. Jennifer Page found shaking. Shook. Jennifer Page being like, how dare you take my crown? She would be a fun interview. She absolutely would. That would be a fun interview. Absolutely. We're just going to keep manifesting all these oh these girls. We're going to get all the girls. We're going to get them. yep We're going to get them. But then, you know, in true bratty fashion, Ms. XCX said, hold on. I will say how she did it with the with the second. What did she say? What's to say on the front of the album?
00:55:17
Speaker
Brett, and it's the same, but there's three more songs, so it's not. My favorite thing ever. I love that. I love that so much. I think that's so great. I love that. Yeah. It's very fun. Very, she said, millennials, this is for you. And I have to say, I'm very glad that she did this. Oh, for sure. And I'll get it to it when when when we get to the last song, but it kind starts off with Hello, Goodbye. This was the one I felt felt like a Robin song. I see that. But it's like, it's one of those Robin collaborations where it's like her and Royk's up. Yes. It feels very like that type of intersection there. Yeah. Because it's like there's no beat in the verse, and then it feels like there's going to be something to the chorus, and then there's nothing again. And then it builds up, and then there's nothing again. And then finally, in the very last bit, the second half, it's just like, OK, now we're going to give you the beats. Now we're going to give it to you. Yeah, here we go. Yeah, I love that. I love it. I love it too. I love this one. I love the synths. I think it's very fun. Yeah. Yeah. And then we have Guess. Third favorite on the album.
00:56:16
Speaker
So good. Oh, my God, I love this. And the reference to Daft Punk. Yes. ah Technologic. Like, oh, but also, do you know Peaches? Yeah, it gives me peaches vibes very much. Love that. Yes, like it's the the it's just I don't know, it's rough, it's gritty, it's rough around the edges and it's just it's cunty and I know I love it. And this is hunt this is the one that has half of 100 get the hyper. OK, OK, there we go. So I definitely feel that influence here for sure. yeah
00:56:51
Speaker
ah but Another one of my favorites. It's so good. And then the album ends with Spring Breakers. This is the one that I felt like I saw the most people talking about online. So she this was one of the boiler room songs that fans instantly were like, I need this song. Right. They're like, I need this song. And then she released the track listing and people and Spring Breakers found dead on the original track listing. And people were thinking because there's a song in Charlie's discography called Taxi that I believe, you know, to from my understanding, Charlie XCX, her third album was supposed to be called XCX World. or That was the rumor. I don't know if that's ever been confirmed. But there was a lot of label politics, blah, bla blah, blah, blah. The album ended up getting a lot of leaks and ended up ultimately getting shelved. And it sounds like that that was a very
00:57:41
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bad time in Charlie's life. um But that ultimately is what led to the Vroom Vroom EP. Got it. um and but i But there's a song on this XCX World album, I think called Taxi, that leaked online that fans were like, release this, release this, and she's still never released this. So I think fans thought that she was the Spring Breakers was going to be the the modern day Taxi. Taxi. Got it. And so so when they saw that it was on the track listing, they were like, wait, what? And then the Monday of the brat release week, she had posted a snippet of Spring Breakers on her social media patterns to say that brat week. And and so then I was like, what is she doing? Like, she's literally dangling this carrot. It's not even on the album. And it's not even on the album.
00:58:31
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But then on Sunday, I saw someone had posted something on Twitter with the album cover. And then I was like, is this AI or is this an edit, like a brat generator type of thing? You know, everyone's doing the memes and stuff right now. So then I went to her TikTok and saw that the mural was painted over and they were starting to put up and I was like, holy shit, please let this be. And so anyway, that was a long story about Spring Breakers. This is my second favorite on the album. And the sample. It's a little sample in there. What's a little sample? A little sample of Britney Spears. Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. Yeah. I was not expecting that. Right. At all. Because I was unfamiliar with the song until I listened to just I think was today. I just finally got the chance to listen to the three. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, wait, wait, hold on. Run that back. I was like, what is that?
00:59:21
Speaker
And I think it's a great reference because in the movie Spring Breakers, isn't there? ah Have you seen Spring Breakers? I think so. There is a reference to Britney Spears every time. I've only seen it once, so I barely remember it. But that's the movie. I think that James Franco and Selena Gomez. Oh, yeah. Yeah. um But yeah so I think that the fact that the song is called Spring Breakers. Right. It's a brilliant reference. It feels like very boom clap Charlie. Yes, like it gives me that kind of vibe. Yeah. And she kind of references it like I give that boom, boom, boom, boom. cla Yes. Like, yes. But this song, I think the beat goes so fucking hard. oh Yeah. And I've been like listening to this almost nonstop with 365. Like those two girls are walking side by side, hand by hand. Yeah, I feel like this might have to be one of the ones I play this weekend. Yeah, it's it just and this song and so this is the song in particular that I'm saying like this is a two minute and 23 second song and it works for me for whatever reason. And maybe because the song is such a slap in your face that it kind of works really well because any longer might feel a little bit too much. True.
01:00:29
Speaker
I don't know, there maybe there's ways to extend it. I mean, I will always, I will always welcome an extension. Right. That way, even that would be fun. Like if she just did gave gave us some of those would be amazing. Yeah. But I want an extended of talk, talk. I mean, maybe that's maybe that would be part of the remix project. Maybe she's doing an and extended version album and then a remix album would be so good. But I do know that there are remixes of Mean Girls, Sympathy as a Knife, um obviously Von Dutch in 360, 365 with Shy Girl. um I believe that there is a remix of Everything is Romantic. So yeah, I i think that we're going to get a remix album. That would be amazing. I think that would be a really amazing too. I think I would. But here's my kind of request. As much as I would love to hear it and hear it now,
01:01:18
Speaker
I also would welcome it maybe in in a couple months time. Right, right. Give it some space. Give it some space and let us let us maybe like, you know, sprinkle remixes of the current singles. Absolutely. You know, absolutely. um I would love I was I was going to say I love the 360 remix with Robin, but I was a little disappointed with the fact that it's the same beat and they just added new verses to it. And it's cute. It's cute. I like it. But I also because because we love Robin so much.
01:01:49
Speaker
let Let's do a full thing with Robin, you know? Because she doesn't give us enough. No. She's another one. When was honey? Oh, my God. 2018. Stop it. Are you serious?
Robin's Birthday Celebration
01:02:01
Speaker
It was the same year as The Star is Born came out. Oh, my God. Robin, what are we doing? Robin. Robin. Wake up. Come on. like Hey, girl. Hey, girl. Wake up. Happy birthday, Robin. Actually, we're recording today. and I think it's her birthday today. Shut up. Oh, my God. Happy birthday. June 12th, I believe, is Robin's birthday. So Robin, we love you. Happy birthday. Absolutely. What sign is she? What is this? Gemini. Gemini. Gemini season. That feels right. Yep. That feels right. That's why I have a kindred connection with her. You should have been Swedish. Well, I am Swedish. Are you? That's my heritage. Shut up. I mean, I'm kind of a mutt, but Swedish is a big part of it. God, me too. I'm like half Italian, half Norwegian and Swedish.
01:02:45
Speaker
I love, I think that mine is I am Polish, Swedish, and then there's like a mix of like French, British, whatever. Broadly Eastern European. Yeah, I'm like, I don't give a fuck about those. I'm like, I want Sweden. right So
Favorite Albums and Music Trends Discussion
01:03:00
Speaker
I can just say that I'm Max Martin's like long lost son. Right, right. Yeah. um So, yeah, i all in all, I i am I'm a officially i what is Charlie called her fans and Angel, I think. And yeah, i I love this album. I am very curious to see how this is going to have replay value with me for the rest of the year. I have to say at this moment in time and maybe it's a little too soon to say this, but this and cowboy Carter, I think are my two favorite albums of the year so far wow for me. Oh, okay yeah. I love that.
01:03:30
Speaker
Yeah, I want to know more about like why did we go from charlie capital XCX to charlie lowercase XCX now. I think that she's just doing it in the stylization of the way the songs are stylized on the album, got it on the tracklist, because she stylized them all in sentences. right So I think that she's just doing that too okay to do that. i I know I saw that people were like saying that on the like what's going on here on the interwebs. And I was kind of like, yeah, I don't think it's anything deeper than that. But yeah, that makes sense. Kind of the way that Jay-Z like took the hyphen out of his name for one of his albums. And everyone was like, everyone he changed his name. He's Jay's now. he He's Jay's. j page it page j Hey Well, mr Mr. John Michael, do do you feel like you have a song that we haven't talked about enough?
01:04:20
Speaker
you know what i should have been more prepared for this let me think um do yours first i'm gonna do mine so this this actually people so again this is kind of depending on where you line up in the charlie xdx world right okay they are going to be your diehard fans are going to be like this is a fan favorite this is talked about all the time then you're going to have people who are like, oh, Charli XCX boom clap, like, like, so this song in particular, it's not on streaming, I would love for her to put it on streaming, but it probably never happened. But this is a collaboration with Sophie. It is a song called Round and Round. And it is an absolute
01:04:57
Speaker
fun hyper pop club smasher, where it's got these really sparkly, like fun poppy verses. But then the
Collaborations and Music Connections
01:05:06
Speaker
after the chorus, she's like, round and round and round and round and round. And then it all of a sudden it goes into this crunchy, hard, dark beat. And then there's just got this really sick like vocal effects like round and round and round and round and round and round. It is, I'll have to send it to you. Please, please, please. It's on YouTube. but um but we would love it officially on streaming so we can give you all of our coins. Work. um Yeah, excellent, excellent song. So I'm actually going to go back to someone that I mentioned earlier, and and this is this may or may not be a very, very basic choice, but because I do really love Rita Ora, and I feel like she is just in general ah someone that we don't talk about enough. We don't. I think she's got a great voice. Yep. um
01:05:49
Speaker
She's just, I don't know, her albums are great. I thought Phoenix was such a good album. And I'm just, I'm a very, very big fan. But she did in 2019, a collab with Tiesto and Jonas Blue Ritual. Oh, that I absolutely love that I was like, oh, this is just going to be huge. And like when you look at the streaming numbers, it's got like four hundred and something million streams on Spotify alone. But oh, wow. No one can tell you anything about it. This song escaped me. I don't know if I've heard this one. I love it. The original one is very, very cute. There's a couple of remixes that I love. I think Benny Benassi actually did a great remix and there's a bunch. yeah I'm actually I'm going to send it to you as well. You know, you're not a Spotify girl.
01:06:30
Speaker
um But yeah, ritual, Rita Ora, I love that. And it's such a good melody and it's just, she sounds great. Oh my God, I love that. And I love, for some reason that makes me think of ah sacrifice by Bebe Rexha and Gorgon City. Work, another one. Yeah, that was a remix. They did a remix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, I love that these girls are like ritual sacrifice. Right. But that's a great remix. Put that on my cul cult playlist. For real? Oh my gosh. Wow. yeah And then do you have a song that is not on streaming that we need to put on streaming? A song that is not on streaming. Yes, I do. Hold on. I keep a list on my phone. Which one can I pull up today?
01:07:11
Speaker
um David Morales' remixes of Selena's I'm Getting Used To You. Do you know those? I don't. Did not know these even existed. Yeah, they were. I want to say they were released on vinyl, I think as a promo. So good. And it would have been like, that's what I felt like we always get chipped when it came to Selena, because like, as the English album was coming, and all of that was sort of happening, I'm like, the remixes would have been so good and just like I said having David Morales in her and I'm like what we could have done oh my god seriously so these exist in the world yeah and were they officially released at one point I'm gonna tell you right now because I think that they were on vinyl only okay I wonder did she re-sing her vocals for it
01:07:58
Speaker
I don't think so. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Let's see. Yeah, they were released on vinyl. Is there a CD single? There is. There was a Maxi single, CD single. Oh my God. yeah
Nostalgia and Rare Music Editions
01:08:10
Speaker
Bring back Maxi singles. Right. Said said no one. said no one ah Said you and I and that's it. Right, right. It's like the album version, the Deaf radio version, Deaf club, Dubba Dub mix, all that stuff. Oh, classic Morales. Speaking of Mr. Morales, I'm very excited for that right now. the I of us die was literally at the airport when I saw it and I like gasped. I'm so excited. So this episode, by the time this episode's out, the the Rainbow 25th anniversary edition will have been released. um But I am so excited. but Let me just tell you, if you do decide to do ah any type of episode about this, if if you and Jeff are going to do it or whatever, I have to be there. Yes, honestly, because ah this album is everything.
01:08:52
Speaker
It's, it really is. It's so good. And I'm also excited to see that there's a so, so deaf remix of how much with Usher. Right. So I'm curious and I'm like, was this, does this mean that the song was originally going to be a single? I feel like probably. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, which really should have been right. ah Hey, after tonight, that's one of my favorite ballads. It's so good. Oh my God. So good. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, gosh. And for my songs that ah should be on streaming, I'm going to go ahead and say I feel like I have not said this yet on the podcast, but ah again, said no one. Only me saying this. um The Thunderpuss Megamix for Shannon.
01:09:36
Speaker
oh They came out in I think 2003 or 2004. It was a mega mix of give me tonight. ah I forget this. Give me tonight. Let the music play. And there was a third song that was smushed sandwich to the middle. um Believe in me. Believe in me, which I don't think was really a hit necessarily for her. But no cause they they were trying to make her do like a new album at that point. And that's why I think the album was the best is yet to come. And it had like, let the music play, give me tonight, like some of the older stuff. And then she was doing new stuff, which is where I think we talked about this, that song intimate. Yeah, i she had done that i sent you yeah that one, I think. Yeah, it's so good. But even like the Thunderpuss Megamix, have you heard that Madonna Megamix is for the greatest hits volume two? Oh, yeah.
01:10:18
Speaker
yeah The club one and the album version one are just phenomenal and I would feel to have those on streaming. I know. I'm very curious if they will put those on streaming. I'm so excited. Yeah, that would be really, really fun because those were promo only yeah ah mixes, especially those, the actual club ones. ah like those were I remember when those like got released I was like fight like stream I was like Napster give me all I remember that all of the the gay club DJs at that time were so excited because what a lot of them did is cut out the part where it goes into deeper and deeper and then they would just make like a full version of that based on it would ah
01:10:53
Speaker
Yes. Oh, my God. And I think someone did that, too, with the music portion. I think so. Yeah. Oh, so a time to be alive. Right. Right. What a time to be alive. Oh, my gosh. All right, everyone. Well,
Conclusion and Farewell
01:11:06
Speaker
thanks for listening to this bratty ass episode. I'm Jennifer Bradiston. Oh my God. i I'm screaming. I'm screaming. Well, as always, always a pleasure to speak with you, and talk with you, all things music. And until next time, everyone have a blessed day, night, evening, morning, whatever. Bye.