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Level Two Diagnostic [SEASON PREMIERE]
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A NEW SEASON means new grades! Bryan and Kristen also announce some free giveaways for the season, look back at what worked and what didn't in season two, add some instant KILLs to the running tally, announce some of the new theme months and answer your listener questions.
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Transcript
Introduction & Season Preview
00:00:04
Speaker
Hi, I'm Brian. Hi, I'm Kristen. Welcome to Trek Mary Kill. We're kicking off our new season as we did last season with a bit of a reset, some housekeeping, and a look ahead slash season preview. I guess also for any new listeners, this might be an opportunity to jump on board and know who we are, what our show is about. Kristen, I hope you had a great summer break though.
Summer Recap & Podcast Direction
00:00:26
Speaker
It was fine. We're back, baby. Yeah.
00:00:33
Speaker
I don't know. It was not, it's, you know, my summer was better than the summer. I was on maternity leave. I'll say that. All right. So if that was the, you're only, you're only 26. So if that was the 26th worst summer of your life, yeah then this was the 25th worst summer of your life or 25. I'm sure I probably had like worse ones when I was a kid, like having to go to summer school every day or something. That's probably worse, right?
00:00:59
Speaker
Yeah, well, I'm fudging the timelines a little bit because I can, because we record these out of order and who knows when we're recording. But, um yeah, when i had we had our honeymoon, we went on a lot of different little trips, so it's it's been a nice break. And ah i'm i'm I'm half recharged, though, because we actually wound up doing quite a lot of episodes last year. Yeah, too many, some would say.
00:01:21
Speaker
You weren't on all of them. I know. Like the fact that you just were like, I'm going to power through and do all these episodes. Like I see the schedule. Yeah. And I'm like, Jesus. And you haven't slowed down. You still do like two or three a week.
00:01:36
Speaker
crazy where there's going to be two episodes this week. Everyone, it's this one. And then we're going to drop a new one, which you'll find out about in a second unless you skipped right ahead.
Star Trek News & Streaming Impact
00:01:44
Speaker
But, you know, we are not a Star Trek news podcast, but let's just cover some things. Nerso gala, Patty Yasutake passed away earlier this month. It was very sad. It was very sad because it's like you don't think about Nerso gala most of the time until you see her. But she was in beef on Netflix, the big Emmy hit from last year. And when she showed up, I'm like, I was very happy to see her there.
00:02:06
Speaker
Uh, and she had been dealing with, uh, I believe she was battling cancer. It's very sad to see that she's passed, uh, Star Trek lower decks canceled its upcoming fifth season will be its last.
00:02:17
Speaker
I'm sure you don't have many feelings about that, Kristen. yeah I mean, I like it. I do, too. And obviously, this is a combination of streaming strategy. um And actually, I think it's really just mainly that, streaming strategy. You don't want these shows to go on for a long time and pay lots of people.
Starfleet Academy & Episode Grading
00:02:35
Speaker
I have some a little bit but some more thoughts about Lower Decks based on something I'm going to type out in a second. But before then, Lower Decks dies so that a new Star Trek show can rise from the ashes. And that is Starfleet Academy.
00:02:47
Speaker
which will begin filming very soon, we're told it will feature Deborah Winger and Paul Giamatti, but also- Oh, what? That's wild. Oh, my breaking news to you. Oh, great. Okay. I knew that show was coming. I did not know who was going to be in it. So me reading the, I did read the rundown yeah prior to recording.
00:03:08
Speaker
If you're new to the show, Kristin sometimes reads the rundown. Yeah, it is a rare occasion when I do that. But I was like, oh, we're recording two episodes. I should probably like read a little bit about them. And I had like five minutes to spare. So that is the first time hearing about this. Yes.
00:03:28
Speaker
ah So Paul Giamatti is a huge Star Trek fan and basically they didn't know that until earlier this year because he was talking about it during the rounds trying to win the Oscar for The Leftovers. Great performance. Paul Giamatti is an amazing actor, not just the movies he's been in. He was in the John Adams miniseries. He was in Billions for Showtime. It's great. Debra Winger, she was in Batman v Superman as much as as much as a phenomenal actor as she is.
00:03:56
Speaker
OK, she was in Batman vs Superman. Star. She's gettable for Star Trek. Also an Academy Award. nominat Yes. Yes. So they've got those two terms of endearment. Yes, which ah I have not seen. Oh, she's really good in it. well I believe it. ah But this show will also feature Robert Picardo as the doctor because he's a hologram. He can be in the. And how are they going to explain the age?
00:04:25
Speaker
I think they're probably going to do some version of like, well, I figured since I'm immortal, I might as well age with some dignity because Robert Picardo doesn't look too hauntingly old. So he should be right. He started out looking 45.
00:04:42
Speaker
Now he looks like his whole life. So. So I don't know, I think they'll just ignore it. That would probably be the smartest thing to do, or hopefully they can make up him enough to look slightly younger. That's possible. Mary Wiseman will be ah Tilly. She'll be an instructor there. And then Tig Notaro of Discovery also. I mean, that's not how I know Tig Notaro, but I know a lot of Star Trek fans. That's how they know.
00:05:05
Speaker
tiarro but she will be on the show as well as Jet Reno. And then a cast of fresh-faced cadets whose names I can't remember right now, and we'll all discover together. And Strange New Worlds is also not only did it wrap its third season earlier in 2024, but it got picked up for a season four. We'll see, folks, if it's gonna actually shoot that season four, because I don't know if you've been paying attention to the other news, but the ownership of Paramount Pictures is up in the air.
00:05:34
Speaker
Yeah. And ah and even with the current ownership, they're like Paramount Plus is on death row. It's not going to survive much longer. So who knows what any of these pickups are like in this. You think like in terms of like. Original content. Exactly. So you don't know if they're going to pull back the green light, because that's happened a lot ah with streamers, if they're going to find a co-licencer to burden share with the cost, you know, Amazon.
00:06:04
Speaker
or Netflix, whatever, and who knows. um Anyway, with all that said, given these the new shows and the season orders, that brings us to 950 episodes of Star Trek. Not including short treks, which In my mind are just webisodes. I mean, they're effectively webisodes or five minute little bites. They are alleged to be canon and at least one of them has a direct tie in for discovery. So I got to sort that out. If you want to email me a complaint, go ahead. I'll give that email in a bit. But I don't see why they have to be considered canon for now.
00:06:41
Speaker
which that would not get to 960. For now, let's just say 950. It's quite a lot of Star Trek. We have graded 161 episodes though, ah or just 17%. So we continue at this rate. Trek Mary Kill will never end. So, uh, I want to use this opportunity for some instant grades. Uh, for example, in the past we've used viewers choice marathons to insta-marry some TOS and TNG g episodes. Unfortunately DS9, Voyager, Enterprise,
00:07:10
Speaker
the newer shows, they weren't popular enough in the zeitgeist to earn viewers choice marathons where fans could vote and the cast would say, the this was ranked the best, you know, viewers called in or messaged us and this is what they chose. There's been nothing like that. So we only have comments from showrunners and maybe actors to really provide instakills. Cause sometimes you can't trust what they say when they love an episode. They're like, that turned out well. And then you watch you're like, are you sure?
00:07:38
Speaker
You might have been going through some stuff there and you're like, how did I make this one? But anyway, ah these are ones that even like at the time were reviled or like there's an episode of Voyager where the there were actors at a convention like just after like before the season had began, but they were doing conventions and like there's an episode coming up. We don't think it shouldn't have even been filmed. They shouldn't even release it. So it's like there are things you could kind of talk about. And again, if you have a complaint, you can email, but I'm just going to list them out here.
00:08:08
Speaker
Star Trek The Next Generation, Aquielle. It's the episode where Geordi falls in love with the woman accused of murder, and it turns out that her dog is a shapeshifter that actually did the murder.
00:08:19
Speaker
Uh, Ron. Yeah. No. Killed. Ron Moore says writing this episode is his biggest regret from working on Star Trek The Next Generation. He, Brandon Braga, and Jerry Taylor broke the story in two days, and I think it shows. It's not a, not a happy episode.
00:08:38
Speaker
bad morphing visual effects that they had farmed out to another effects house just to make the time. and And it was submitted so late that they couldn't actually make any notes to go back and change it. That's how bad the effects house was. There was bad casting, like the there's no chemistry but between LeVar Burton and the woman playing Aquiel Unari. And that's saying something. LeVar Burton had chemistry with me and the sidewalk.
00:09:01
Speaker
yeah You're on the picket line and he was just standing there. So anyway, ah so I would say at at the very least it's a soft kill. Some people like, uh, our former, our previous guest Charisse, she would say it's a hard kill, but, uh, you know, it's a kill nonetheless. Deep Space Nine. I do not remember this episode and I went back and I read about it. I'm like, no, I definitely saw it, but it did not register at all. And it's a, it's called second sight from Deep Space Nine. Cisco falls in love with an energy alien.
00:09:28
Speaker
Okay. So there we go. Is the alien humanoid looking at least? But it's like a being of light at the end. So it's like posing as different people. Voyager, this is the episode that Robert Duncan McNeil was like, they shouldn't have even filmed this one. They shouldn't release this to the public. It's called twisted. I believe it's from the first episode, first season. I was reading some more about Voyager and I'll explain why in a little bit, but, uh, UPN, a new network and that launch with Voyager, they were run by a former executive Fox who helped get Fox off the ground. And her strategy was, well, let's jump the market and not have our fall preview, our fall premiere date.
00:10:07
Speaker
be when all the other networks are doing their fall premieres, we'll get crushed. So to do that, they kind of held they held the last four filmed episodes for Voyager's first season. for this to kick off the second season. That's why it kicks off with them finding Amelia Earhart. That was not supposed to be the season premiere. And this episode twisted, they kind of like buried, they tried to bury in the second season. And like, it wasn't like the second or third, it was like the eighth episode. And Michael Pillar who came back, who had been, who helped get Voyager off the ground, went off to his own show, came back. He was like, that was an episode that I had to then, in subsequent episodes, go and repair the damage it had done.
00:10:47
Speaker
to the characters. That's how bad Twisted is considered. So wow that's an instant kill. I went back and I rewatched some of it just to make sure and I'm sure there's good stuff that I'd be like, no, but I think there's enough to be like, we we don't have to be that fair to it. It's a kill. um And then this one, I kind of been doing this mainly for you.
00:11:08
Speaker
ah start a city rag from season one of Star Trek Picard. It's the episode you that means you stop watching Star Trek Picard because they are dressed up in the party city costume. Yeah, I hated that. So and it's Patrick Stewart doing the bad French accent. Yeah, um it's got seven of nine just shooting a woman like just indiscriminately killing people.
00:11:29
Speaker
It's got the reintroduction of Bruce Maddox from Measure of a Man who's a different actor entirely. It's not Star Trek in any meaningful way and it's not a good episode of Star Trek Picard. We will touch on it when we cover Star Trek Picard in the beginning of 2025 for reasons I'll explain, but we will not dedicate our time doing all the grades for it because it's a kill. So there you go. Okay, I'm fine with that.
00:11:54
Speaker
Now I just want to talk about some other fun stuff, because kills can be unpleasant sometimes. I went to GalaxyCon San Jose it was earlier here in August. I am not a convention goer. I can name two or three conventions
GalaxyCon Highlights & Star Trek Prodigy
00:12:08
Speaker
I've ever been to in my life. The very first convention I ever went to, Kristen, was a Star Trek convention. And Michael do michael Dorn was the special guest. And I asked him a question because I was sitting in the front row in my homemade Star Trek The Next Generation costume. Oh, wow. So I look like a dork and a half. I was also a loving.
00:12:26
Speaker
My dad had named me that costume before he died. So I was wearing it, but it was like embarrassingly homemade. Anyway, and I asked Michael Dorn a very stupid question, which I'm too embarrassed to repeat here, but he very graciously answered and got a laugh out of it. So it was great. So I always appreciated that. I did not go back and see Michael Dorn, who was at galaxy con doing the whole autograph thing. ah But anyway, so that was that. But what I do, um, you're afraid he's going to remember you.
00:12:51
Speaker
No, I knew he wouldn't. I didn't. Well, but I have nothing to say to the actors other than thank you. Yeah. And it's like, I don't want to pay 50 plus dollars for the privilege of saying that. so Oh yeah. Yeah. No, I thought it was like you could that say something to him for free or whatever. Okay. Yeah. I didn't want to, I didn't want to get into that. I didn't know. yeah like I love you guys, but I'm not paying money to be like, thank you for all the work you've done, sir.
00:13:16
Speaker
But I did pay quite a lot of money to sit in on William Shatner doing a live commentary of Star Trek Five. The one Star Trek movie he directed, he's probably never going to talk about the movie again, and he's 92 years old. So i thought I thought we were in once in a lifetime territory. got us Got an answer to the question of what Kirk's pain would have been had Cybok been able to get him to share.
00:13:44
Speaker
and ah And it was a nice moment. Shatner watching it, I think there's probably a version where it's, you know, everyone has their side of the story about what happened. But you can definitely tell like Shatner didn't know what he needed to know while doing it. He didn't know the total power he had. And so that's very clear. But also you can see there's some if you go back and watch Star Trek five, not a not a good movie or not a great movie. There are good things in it, though, that the director had a hand in.
00:14:14
Speaker
visuals and all that stuff. So it's just very interesting to see like, sure, he made one of the less successful popular movies, but it wasn't like it was a complete amateur hour direction. You know what I mean? Yeah. So there that was an interesting thought part of it. One hundred and one year old Ralph Sinensky. We talked about him earlier last year or last season, we were talking about one of his episodes, Bread and Circuses. Remember, he had the whole blog and everything and he writes all of his memories.
00:14:41
Speaker
101 years old. I hope I am of a fraction as clear-minded and can remember the past as well as he has at 101. It was a very cool experience to be there. And then Terry Farrell did a Q and&A and Darren Doctorman, who was one of the co-hosts of the Inglorious Trexperts, who I also met, he did a really good job of guiding that interview in a way that I I appreciate it because I didn't want to hear a big old nerd out on Star Trek. He did like a Marc Maron style where he just asked her about her life. So I got to learn a lot of cool Terry Farrell facts. I had never seen the movie Back to School before. The one with Rodney Dangerfield, the one that ah got her on people's radar and film and TV. She said her first husband married her because she thought she was like that character in the movie. So it was a fun movie. It was fun, fun conversation. Yeah, exactly.
00:15:29
Speaker
I just want to say that that was a lot of fun. Maybe we'll appear at conventions or you know attend more conventions and get the word out. I had some t-shirts and bookmarks. Happy to give them away. ah so We'll see. STLV. I didn't want to go to Las Vegas this year. We'll see about next year. so We'll see about that. yeah ah but Anyway, yes. T-shirts and bookmarks are because I wanted to- I already happen to be in a city that's having a convention. I'll consider it. Yes. Yeah. yeah I mean, San Jose isn't too far. Well, so for me, the reason why I picked that over Vegas is one Vegas was going to be 115 degrees or thereabouts. Yeah. But mainly, actually, I should have said one was it's closer to my family. I have nieces and sisters I'd like to see. And that was just a it it was like a more fulfilling trip, I guess is a better way of saying it because I haven't seen them in a while. And when they're young, they grow so quickly, as you know.
00:16:22
Speaker
um but i am Yes, I'm well aware. So as I said, we've got some t-shirts and bookmarks to give away. If you want a bookmark, just email us and say, hey, send me a bookmark and I will send it to you. Drop it in the mail. But we're also having a couple of other giveaways this year and the form of how that will happen is TBD working on it. but Yeah. so um I guess we can talk about this offline. But um I think what would be nice is if we had, we asked our listeners to give their answer to one of our grades. And if we like it, we will read it on the show and then also send you one of these two gifts as a thank you.
00:17:06
Speaker
Yeah, all right, so the two are Star Trek Discovery's complete series, Blu-ray. And that will come after, we'll decide that once we get done with Discovery's fifth season. That's one of the things that we'll be covering. And also Star Trek Voyager's complete series, because I don't know if you knew this, Kristen, in January, will be the 30th anniversary of that show's debut.
00:17:28
Speaker
That seems like a long time ago. It's an incredibly long. For instance, I was not even born yet. That's right. You wouldn't be born for another five years. um So yes, as I said, Discovery will be one of the shows recovering this year. I'll be joined for those 10 episodes by Cherise from the TNG g podcast. Very cool that she's coming over there ah to help out with that. ah Katie Hampton will be back to grade lower decks for our monthly animated spotlights. And I want to do something special with Star Trek Prodigy.
00:17:58
Speaker
ah because I watched the second season that's now on Netflix. If you haven't started watching it, you can watch both seasons get into it because I gotta be honest, I was watching it and there's something that happens in kind of almost at the midpoint of season two.
00:18:12
Speaker
where I gasped. And I was very upset for a second. I'm like, wait, did they just kill this character? And I was at that point, I'm like, wait a minute. Oh, it turns out I actually kind of care about the show and what's happening. So it's a really it's always been a well made show since season one. But I guess at by this point, in the run, I've become invested enough to be like, hold on, is there are there some episodes we should consider for Mary's because I've giving it a blanket trek because it just seems rude to kill any episode of a kids show. um Especially when that's just like the the floor it's so well made like it just seems like there's too much effort in it to say that yeah you know kill so anyway well well i'll figure it out i haven't figured out what the format of that will take it won't be like a standard episode where we go through all the grades um or like our other animated episodes so anyway
00:19:02
Speaker
But we will still be doing grades for our regular episodes and animated spotlights and themes that we'll be doing this week. No more wild cards, though. Just this year. No more, though. I didn't get to pick anything out of a hat this year.
00:19:15
Speaker
So Discovery's final season mentioned Star Trek Voyager in 30th anniversary, ah but we're gonna kick off our third season with this theme,
Upcoming Themes & Listener Questions
00:19:24
Speaker
Kristen. Star Trek predicts today! And looking at Star Trek episodes that deal with their predictions of modern times. And then we'll also be looking at Star Trek's inner lights. That is episodes that are like Star Trek Next Generation's inner light. Picard lives another life. Surprisingly, there are other episodes across the show that kind of match up with that.
00:19:45
Speaker
And as I mentioned before, 2025 is also the five-year anniversary of Star Trek Picard's debut. And so we're going to go back and revisit that season for the first time since we did the pilot episode. And that's not the only anniversary, or I should say that and Voyager aren't the only two anniversaries. It's also the 20th anniversary of Enterprise going off the air. So we'll be looking at some Enterprise episodes too. A celebration for us all. That's right. And a couple more themes, I guess I'll leave as surprises. Isn't that the one that had such a bad series finale that they like left it off the blue, the DVDs or something. Well, they, they reordered it on Paramount plus. They put the episode with Riker and Troy watching the final episode of enterprise as a holiday program. They, that was originally the finale. These are the voyages and Paramount plus moved it to the third to last.
00:20:40
Speaker
Because the last two that right before that episode was a two parter basically about xenophobic humans being racist towards aliens and in the ends with at us kind of like winning against prejudice and establishing the Federation. It's like a much more hopeful note to go out for enterprise. So in the, in the Paramount streaming, they moved it. It was kind of a cool thing actually. So, um, we will be covering those two episodes in fact, but just want to point that out. Now I like to do these really as like a performance review too. You already said that we did too many episodes, but what, what are the things that you think didn't work or did work about last season that you can remember?
00:21:20
Speaker
I don't know, it feels like I'll blur Brian. OK, so I guess I think we did too many wild cards, obviously. Yeah. um Yeah. Well, I put a I think the thing that worked less well, it's taken me two seasons to realize this. Maybe you knew it all along the most of its time quality grade. I think I think that's one we can retire or at least put on a on leave on the leave of absence for a time. ah Whenever I do the editing or whenever I check the playback stats. ah That's kind of the point in the episode that just devolved into Brian's complaint corner, not like the rest of the episodes. The rest of the hour wouldn't usually have me drop it in some complaints, but that really kind of would stall the momentum. So that's gone. We're not going to do
00:22:11
Speaker
that grade anymore. And to replace it, I think we've come up with three really fun ones to kind of keep the flow and fun of the show going. But before I mention them, I just want to say what else I think we did well is we had a nice panel of guests, and I actually really liked the themes. I thought it was a lot of fun for me connecting episodes. I really liked when we got into strange new worlds, pairing them, even though some of those wound up being paired with wild cards. And whenever Stranger your Worlds comes back, we have a chance to do them again. I think I'm really going to try to tie them to other episodes they remind us of. Because the show's not very shy about, remember? like Tying it to other episodes. It's fun to do that.
00:22:52
Speaker
But anyway, um here are the three new ones. Most cosplayable character or moment. I'm not a big cosplayer, but that is a huge part of Star Trek fandom. Me neither always has been. um And so I think that'll be fun just to think about for even half a second. Would this episode be a fun, hollow novel to play out?
00:23:11
Speaker
So, hol you know or just experience on the holodeck, will that be something you'd want to do? And then shoot to thrill the most exciting image or sequence. So that comes from Jonathan Freaks in a lot of interviews talked about how the new shows versus because he directed a lot of the old ones, the difference is they want it to be like the JJ movies. And Robert Duncan McNeil is actually Tom Paris, who wound up becoming a TV director as well. He was kind of doing them ahead of Jonathan Freaks. And he said the idea is to shoot to thrill.
00:23:42
Speaker
So you're not shooting, you know, kind of like shoot to the edit or something like that. So I wanted to do like, what's the most exciting image or sequence? Because a lot of the time we have said in the past, like this whole sequence is really fun. There's a lot of energy and what's really cool. So it could be these could have some overlap with great scenes, which are not changing.
00:24:01
Speaker
But just if you wanted something very surfacey, this is the opportunity. And I think that'll be fun. So if if you're thinking about it in terms of like, fuck Mary Kill, right? You're like, you know, he dresses great. I don't know. I didn't never thought about fucking him. But sometimes he dresses so great. You know what I mean? Like, there's yeah you can aesthetically change how people perceive you. So I just want to put that in there. Oh, and we're going to stop leaping out the F word.
00:24:25
Speaker
I always thought it was fun. It was kind of like a joke for me, but maybe because we're just the explicit tag and it's the only one we bleep out, then we don't need to do it anymore. And you sometimes miss some anyway. And I sometimes miss some anyway. At first, I was like, maybe he only does it if it's the The to fuck the ah the the verb. Yes. Yeah. What a fucking idiot or something. Yeah. We can also just say it less. Right. All right. And we're going to close our level two diagnostic here with some listener questions, which we did receive.
00:25:04
Speaker
got some through trekmerrykpod at gmail if you have any complaints if you have any pushback on those kills i mentioned uh if you have a issue with previous grades judgments whatever hit us up trekmerrykpod at gmail or you can message us on social media trekmerrykpod so we did get some questions through our twitter account as well but i'm gonna kick it off this comes from dana via email who asked was there a show you didn't like before but do now Leave it to you, Kristen. So I guess like in the in reviewing the shows, kind of giving them close scrutiny kind of thing. Well, I hadn't really watched a ton of the animated series. And I think the ones that we've done, I've been like, this is great. This is so entertaining. Like, even if it wasn't that great of an episode, I've been like, this is very funny to me.
00:25:55
Speaker
I'm with you. That was my answer. But I also kind of have started to appreciate earlier Deep Space Nine more, which Deep Space Nine yeah ended ended as ah when I was a teenager is like, this is my favorite Star Trek. but even i like I always liked that. So I didn't put yeah that one because I had always liked that. It wasn't like, I don't care for this one bit. You know what ill what show i that has kind of ah the opposite. I was completely indifferent to Enterprise because I was not familiar with it.
00:26:26
Speaker
And now I really don't care for it. That's what I've seen. So. That was me with Strange New Worlds. And I think I've given that show as like as long of a rope and as open of a mind as I could. And season two just kept running into like rakes, just stepping on a rake constantly. So I don't know. Would you say some of the swings?
00:26:46
Speaker
Swings and misses. They connected with my brain. That's yeah they like a brain to be good. All right. Jennifer asked us by email, Kirk or for going to the beanbag. That's right. Yeah, that's right. I got hit in the nuts. All right. Jennifer emailed us and asked Kirk or Picard, Cisco or Janeway, then who wins the final showdown? So I guess this is like a March Madness situation on bracket. yeah it But depends on the um situation. It's like, I don't know if I can answer. What do you mean by that?
00:27:18
Speaker
Like in different situations, the captains ah are better at certain things. well Kirk and Picard was like that's how when I arrived on the scene I guess or started getting into Star Trek that was the overarching question that kind of followed it for a couple years and I think I obviously ended it in my teens as like Picard and then as I got older I was like Cisco and then as like my 20s and 30s it's like Kirk and now here in my
00:27:50
Speaker
prefer not to say's. um hu Like if I'm choosing Kirk or Picard, I'm like, I'm going to have to say Kirk, which almost feels like a betrayal. But I think it is shocking that Captain Kirk lived as long as he did, because how he got out of all those pickles it is quite amazing.
00:28:15
Speaker
That's true. i think Well, having sex as ah as a as an arrow in your quiver is like a good. Yeah, I mean, well, yeah, if the situation is how am I going to fuck my way out of this one? It's going to be Kirk all day long. And but the thing is that that Patrick Stewart being such an amazing actor, Picard could have been that way. They just never wrote him that way. Yeah. Because a bunch of nerds are writing it. All right. Cisco or Janeway, though, as much as I love Kate Mulgrew,
00:28:40
Speaker
Yeah, that's the only reason I actually really like Janeway is like I respect and I admire Kate Mulgrew. But it's got to be Cisco. I mean, Cisco's probably as good or better than Kirk in some cases. So then i for me, it goes down to Kirk and Cisco. And I'm like, sorry, Jennifer, I got to I'm with Kristen. It's got a coin toss me on a given day. It could change. So I mean, I really like Cisco. Really? I do, too.
00:29:07
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But i mean I guess what I'm saying is like Kirk is it's weird going to that galaxy con. The original series and now even TNG are like distant memories. Like for a lot of people, Voyager and Deep Space Nine is firmly still middle child, barely known anyway. And Voyager is like the starting point for a lot of people and then the new stuff. And you've even got some enterprise heads in there. It's really strange. Really? Yes, because it's drafting off of Voyager. Oh, OK.
00:29:35
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All right, and then I've got some baseball Twitter mutuals who sent me some questions. ah these These come from Drew Bader, a school teacher in the Bay Area. Thanks for sending us a message. He has three questions. Who are the coolest Star Trek species and why is it the Ferengi? Well, that's kind of like a baiting question. ah By the way, the coolest Ferengi is Quark. And after that, all the rest of them suck. I'm going to give Nog was a child, so I'm going to give him a break.
00:29:59
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And he was fine at the end of the day. He was fine. Yeah. he Okay. So you got cork and not number one and a distant second is Nog and the rest of them are horrible. Yeah. People like Rom, but I i kind of appreciated Rom more than I liked him as a character. Like he was, yeah, he was intentionally ah a caricature. So, but the coolest Star Trek species This is like, as a teenager, I would have said probably the Klingons, but now I'm like, the Vulcans are pretty cool. Yeah, I was going to say the Vulcans are pretty cool. I mean, ah what's the name? I always get it wrong. The one, ah the species that counselor Troy is. The Betazoids. Yeah, the Betazoids. Yeah. I would say like from a cool girl standpoint,
00:30:45
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It's not the Ferengi. I'm going to be real. No, it's not the Ferengi at all. They are not the coolest Star Trek species. Yes, they should have made Cork an ambassador or something for his species because he's the best among them. Vulcans, because they actually do have emotions, is like, oh, so we do have something in common. You just deal with them differently. Yeah. And that's kind of fascinating.
00:31:09
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I think I would get along with a Vulcan very well. I don't like to deal with anyone's fucking drama, okay? Just simply leave that shit at the door, okay? Especially if it's a work situation, like the Vulcan's and gotta be the best coworkers, right? That's true. You don't gotta hear about and nothing about their personal life. Yep. They're there to do a job, and that's it. That's why Seven and Nine's boyfriend should have been a Vulcan.
00:31:32
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Anyway. Yeah, it would've been perfect. Are all different species food replicators able to produce the same foods? I guess theoretically. Yes. But do they know? I mean, imagine how horrible it would be. Also, you want to go eat some Thai curry from a Ferengi replicator? I don't think so. Also, there's just this idea that floats around like the Federation has actually the most advanced technologies in a lot of ways. so They have the food the food replicators, they have the holodecks before anyone else, so it would probably be better. And on Strange New Worlds, um I don't know, I mean, maybe it's been talked about before, but we learned that the Vulcans don't like any kind of seasoning in their food, so you'd think that theirs is calibrated to be quite bland.
00:32:16
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or they wouldn't even need food replicators, it's almost a waste if you only need like three different types of food forms, right, to get through every the meal. ah Why aren't there more baseball episodes is the final question. i'm and there are a lot of base There are a lot of baseball This is the question, why aren't there more sports in Star Trek? Yeah. you know Someone should have been an NFL fan or a football fan and they should have talked about how that's probably basketball or or a basketball. But again, you got nerds, bad men, something right in the show. Yeah. some Well, they have lacrosse. They have water polo. They've had other sports, but they never get spotlighted in a way that's remotely interesting. I think Archer is a big water polo guy. So they'll send him water polo games. But that's like a weird prediction of what will be a popular sport. Water polo, water polo. That's weird. Yeah, that's right. It's not a really spectator sport. So, OK.
00:33:10
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One of the base best baseball Twitter people out there, WeDetective, asks, WeDetective lives, by the way, in the desert and actually farms marijuana. It's great. ah But he asks, Chewbacca is naked, but they never show his dick. What's up with that? um I think this is a good question for a Star Wars podcasts, of which we are not. But I'm going to field a good guess. Not everyone keeps their genitals in the same same place.
00:33:36
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Also, what if it's like it retracts? Yeah. like ah Like a cat penis or something. Also, he's got a lot of fur. That's right. That's right. So maybe it's just very, very small. Yeah. And the final question comes to us via email, and that comes from Akiva G, who wants to know, is Brian as exhausting in person as he sounds on the show?
00:34:01
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Wow. um I know recently don't actually find you exhausting. However, I have never intentionally engaged in conversation with you about the San Francisco Giants. And I suspect that I would find that tedious. I would say 100 percent Akiva that I am as a exhausting in person as I sound on the show, because on the show, i'm mostly talking about Star Trek.
00:34:29
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As opposed to your everyday life. Yes. I bring to bear on Star Trek my and intense devotion to it and that I spent many years doing script development. so it's like it what ah When bells go off of my brain, I can't ignore them on two levels, ah but that does make me exhausting. and I apologize to Akiva and anyone else out there listening.
00:34:52
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Uh, but anyway, but not for this next episode that we've got coming up. It's going to be, we're going to kick off our third season with a Star Trek predicts the present the month.
Next Episode Teaser: 'Past Tense Part One'
00:35:02
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And to do that, we're going to begin with Star Trek deep space nines past tense part one. Did Star Trek accurately predict 2024 all the way back in 1995?
00:35:13
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Just have to find out. We'll have to stay tuned. Hey, and thanks a lot to all the listeners out there for checking us out across two seasons and for submitting your questions for this special episode. That was really nice of you. Check us out on social media at TrekmarryKpod and trekmarrykillpod.com on the web where you can see all of our standings on the newly revamped website. So until moments from now, TMK out. Bye.