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This is 40 with Asia Jolly - A True 50/50
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Another fantastic episode of Bad Movie Debate! Join Asia Jolly and I as we discuss This is 40! A less talked about and less viewed movie from the great Judd Apatow and, arguably, his worst major motion picture. Listen to find out our thoughts!
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Debate Episode Introduction
00:01:38
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So like I said, new debate episode coming at you right now. And we got me, who you know, and Asia. Speak now. Oh my god. Hey. It's me, Asia.
00:01:55
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We got Asia. Asia jelly with us today. Oh my god. Specifically, she specifically told me to let me know when she was allowed to talk. I didn't want to interrupt. I wanted to hear that.
00:02:11
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Yeah. All right. Yeah, my housekeeping. Well, good news. Housekeeping is over and now we're just now we're just hanging out. Now we're just vibing. All right. So we're going to do.
Viewing Habits and Judd Apatow Discussion
00:02:25
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I actually hadn't seen this movie until last night when I was waiting to watch this movie. Yeah, I've never seen this movie. That's insane. You know, no, because we're doing this is 40.
00:02:41
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with Leslie Mann and Judd Apatol, or not Judd Apatol, Paul Rudd, directed by Judd Apatol, written by Judd Apatol. So we're going to do our top five Judd Apatol movies to see where we land in terms of Judd Apatol movies, and then we'll do the quotes and the scores, and then we'll get into talking about it.
00:03:02
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Asia, what are your top five Judd Apatow movies? It's hard to pick five because I went to his little page on IMDB when I was getting the best rating and I was like, shit, he's produced because I was like, you didn't have to write it or direct it. It could just be something he produced because he produced a bunch of stuff. Yeah, he's been like everything it feels like. So exactly. So what do you got?
00:03:24
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I, okay, this is my, this is just five films, no order, like they're not ranked in any way. Maybe I have a number one, I don't know. But okay, so I have Tal Deganites, super bad, forgetting Sarah Marshall. Hold on, wait. Hold on, this is, this is 40 is actually on the list.
00:03:52
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Oh, yes. And then. Wait, is that five? This is 40 Talladega Nights, Superbad, Pineapple Express, and Forgetting Sheriff Marshall. Oh, yeah. You haven't said Pineapple Express yet. Oh, OK. OK, OK. Pineapple Express. Yes. And then Honorable Mention, actually, because it's not a movie, but it's just fire, freaks and geeks.
00:04:13
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Yeah, so I couldn't not say it, you know, it had to be. Absolutely. So I mean, like that's straight up almost exactly my list down to the honorable mention. Like I was also going to honorably mention freaks and geeks because it's just like so good. But it's like technically not. And like all those guys like got their start. They're all there. Yeah. And like Linda Carlini like got her big start there and everything like and she's amazing. They're all amazing in it. Like it's
00:04:41
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Such a good show. Ridiculous, it got canceled, like when it did, to be honest. We all wasn't ready. We all wasn't ready. That's what it was. You're right. If that had come out now with like, like if that cast was coming up now and Judd Apatol made that now, like another that. He would have just been euphoria though. Like, yeah, but like, you know, with that old like, but like better. Probably literally down to his daughter. Down to his daughter.
00:05:08
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It would have been so much better. It would have been so much better. It's fine. It's so much better. Breezy Peaks is better than Euphoria. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. Oh, 100%. 100%. The writing is just immediately better. There is no real writing. Exactly. Anyway. Exactly. Cool. We got that out of the way. So my list, no particular order, is super bad. Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Pineapple Express.
00:05:38
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the 40 year old virgin, and stepbrothers.
00:05:44
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Okay. Okay. Okay. So the number 40 did appear in both of our lists. That's good. Yes. Yeah. So that is like, we had almost the exact same list and you said Teledyga Nights and I said, uh, stepbrothers, which is a Will Ferrell, John C. Riley. We kept the, we kept the same energy vibes, same all the way through. Exactly. So like, we both know what we're talking about when it comes to gender.
00:06:11
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Even down to the honorable mention. That's ridiculous. That's so funny that you said that because I was like, I'm going to say it. I was like, I immediately knew when you were like films, I had a text ready to send you this morning that was like, but what about shows though? Just asking for a friend. I was like, no, I'm going to surprise him with this honorable mention. Yeah. Hell yeah. I was going to surprise you. Here we are.
00:06:33
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I think we're both surprised now, which is perfect. Amazing. All right, so let's get into the reviews
Review of 'This is 40'
00:06:41
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first. So we're doing this as 40, which is on your list, which is always fun. It's on somebody's favorite list. So we got Rotten Tomatoes, critic score is 51, which you can barely get
00:06:56
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You can't get more in the middle than that, except for the user score, which is 50. It's 51. It is like one of the closest sidebite like user and critic scores I've seen on anything I've done on the show. Like that is tight. It's a complex film, a complex piece of cinema. It has the people torn.
00:07:19
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Apparently, and then IMDB, as always, is 6.2. It's always in the sixth. I don't think, I don't know, maybe somebody texts me if I'm wrong or like message me. I think every single episode, every single movie I've done has been between 6.1
00:07:38
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and 6.9, like every single one on IMDB, always in the middle of the road for IMDB, which is weird to me, especially based on some of the shit that I've done on this show. So there's some shit on this show. And then the Metacritic, this one's even weirder, the critic score 59, and then the user score, which is one out of 10, like IMDB is, is 5.9.
00:08:07
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So like the exact same on Metacritic, which is usually a lot harsher. So like that's super weird. So maybe I was wrong. The people aren't conflicted. The people are very sure about this movie because the critics, yeah, everyone has a, they're very down the middle. That's crazy. Cause it's like, it's a solid 10 out of 10 for me. I mean,
00:08:31
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00:08:55
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everybody know all right all right all right so we've got good review good review which is always less fun than the bad review this is good review it's a good good review okay this is from Peter Howell for the Toronto Star he said quote the movie frequently shifts from comic to dramatic and back again true to Apatas whiplash style but also true to life end quote
00:09:25
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It's a pretty good quote. And I hear what they're saying. Because there are moments where it's like, this is funny. And then you're like, holy shit, this is really intense. But then it's like life, you know, so and Avital does that, like, I mean, every, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Superbad, all those movies, like, you see that, like, kind of whiplashy style. This is, it's more dramatic in this movie, I think. That's kind of the point. So yeah, I think Peter's saying.
00:09:49
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movie like imitates life more than like a lot of his other movies so it's like the drama is like more
00:09:56
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you it resonates more because you're like this i've had this conversation with a partner or i've like i felt this way yeah so like what part of pineapple express is unrealistic though like what part you know when you moment in that movie when you phrase it like that i actually can't pinpoint actually it's all realistic you never that's based on a true story like obviously
00:10:20
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That's everyone's fucking extreme. Yeah, everybody's been through that, you know? Like, it's fine. Yes, you're right. I agree with you. You're right. You're right. It is more true. That was a good quote. And in a bad review...
00:10:37
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I love the bad reviews are always so fucking snarky. And I always try to find the snarkiest and like the shortest one. So this is Michael Phillips for Chicago Tribune. He said, quote, more like this is whiny in quote. Oh my gosh. Wow. More like this is whiny. Like, what a bitch quote. Yeah, like, bitch. Like, did you get paid for that, sir?
00:11:07
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely. These come from professional film reviewers for newspapers. I always go for the top critics only, not user opinion. Only people who are getting paid to comment on it. You make up the 51% of the critic score. Those people. I always get quotes from them, good and bad. And they're just always so fucking rude. The mean ones are so funny to me.
00:11:37
Speaker
It's a fun way to vent. Like I guess if I was a movie critic, like, you know, that would be my outlet. Like, you know, like once I always shit, I always shit on them, the critics, but like, I would love to get paid to be a movie critic and do the same thing and be like more like, like, like, like to be paid to be a hater. Like, I mean, as much as I know, like, come on, it's kind of like, you're getting paid to be a hater. Love you can't hate. You can't.
00:12:07
Speaker
Chase that bag. I don't know. Yeah, Chase the bag. Yeah, exactly. See, all right. So we'll both work on, you know, this will blow up and we'll both professionally.
Significance and Critique of 'This is 40'
00:12:17
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Oh, yeah. Exactly.
00:12:22
Speaker
All right, so that's a bad review. So I want to ask, I actually forgot to write down my thing. I'll figure it out on the fly. I'm going to ask you first. So you like this movie. So what's something you didn't like about the movie? And I'll say something I do like about the movie. Like overall, to kind of like balance this out a little bit before we start screaming at each other about our true. No, for sure.
00:12:48
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so i watched it and i go i watched it like a couple days ago just to prep and like halfway through i was like this movie could have been an hour and a half like that is my like there's like a point somewhere in my notes yeah like it's two hours in like 15 minutes two hours and
00:13:08
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two hours even or something like that. And for it to just be a rom-com. Yeah. Yeah. For it to just be a rom, like for the most part, like I would say it falls mostly in that genre of like kind of like a rom-com situation. Yeah. Yeah. I would say maybe like a, like a dramedy, like a dramedy even. Yeah. And it's like, two hours is a lot. When there's, there's a lot of points where I'm like, we could have just edited that out. Like that would have been like a fun, like blooper clip or like a special,
00:13:36
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Some parts you could have told in a shorter way. This part of the narrative could have been shown in a different way. The whole dad storyline, both of the dad storylines, they took up quite a lot of screen time to discuss, only to not really get anywhere.
00:13:58
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So it was like, I feel like they, yeah, like I feel like they put those in because there's like bits in there. You know what I mean? It's like, there's like comedy bits in there. So it's like, oh, we want to have this scene because I have all these funny bits that I want for this scene because you have the scene is going to be 20 minutes long. Yeah. Yeah. You know, right.
00:14:18
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So that's why I think my biggest critique of the movie, right? It's definitely too long. It's definitely too long. I think this is probably one of his longer ones because most of his stuff usually clocks in about 145, I feel like. Yeah, I feel like. Yeah, this is like an extra 15, at least 15 minutes longer than most of his stuff could be wrong.
00:14:38
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I'm just guessing. But at least his other ones don't feel like they're as long as this one. So they might not actually be. But something I did like, though. I mean, I don't... I would say the thing that I like the most is, I mean, I don't... I'm never mad seeing Leslie Mann and Paul Rudd in a movie. You know what I mean? There, yeah. And just like, I mean, there obviously are genuinely funny ass... It's Judd Apatol. Like, come on. Like, it's obviously funny.
00:15:07
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Cracked up, this was my first time watching it, like last night, like, you know, watching it again. So, yeah. Like, hold on, there was, there was something that really fucking hit me that I wrote down that I was like, that's funny as fuck. Like, that's just, like, that just like lost, I like kind of lost my, honestly, it was the whole, um, go for it. I was gonna say what, I wonder what it was. Cause I wrote down two things that I remember like cracking up at. So the one that, um,
00:15:37
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I think it's the one oh it was the the shit with after the mom Leslie Mann yells at the fucking Bieber kid oh
00:16:00
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And then Paul Rudd gets confronted by that kid's mom. Yes. Like that scene slash the scene, which that's, that's Melissa McCarthy, right? Yeah. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Okay. Like her scenes were probably the two funniest ones where she's talking to Paul Rudd and then when they go into the principal's office and she's just like,
00:16:17
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And she just leaves it and she's like, this is why no one fucking likes you with that fucking bullshit haircut. Like, that shit was funny as fuck. That was the part where I was like most genuinely like dying. Yeah, exactly. That was what it was. These two over here looked like a fucking... And like the fact that they didn't even like try to argue back to her, it was just like, yeah. I guess, like, fuck this.
00:16:44
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So just like the fact that like yeah the car or you look like a like these two look like they're in a bank, like a fucking bank commercial right now. Like that had me dying. Like that was probably the funniest thing. So like it is genuinely funny in moments for sure. Which is also crazy because I'm not the biggest Melissa McCarthy fan. She's not bad, but like that was one of the funniest things in the entire fucking thing. Like no doubt in my mind.
00:17:10
Speaker
Well, that was ridiculous. So it is very funny when it needs to be so I like that obviously it's funny and everything but Did we need this movie does this movie work as a two hour and 15 minute long entire narrative Okay, you asked so many questions did we need this movie yes, did it work as two hours and 15 minutes and
00:17:40
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I could see how it could be like a good hour 45 hour 45 pristine movie like I think it added something to one I think it added something to like Judd Apatow's like
00:17:57
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movie repertoire, like it added kind of a, like, again, like that realistic piece where like you get to explore. Also, it doesn't hurt that like, Leslie Mann is his wife and the girls that played his daughters are his real daughters. Like, this was like him getting to like, kind of more so express coming to terms with like himself almost like in where he was at and like real versus like just having an outlet for you and your friends to just like kind of fuck around.
00:18:24
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So like, do I think it like has a place? Yes. Do I think it has like, do I think that hit with people as well as the rest of his films? Probably not, because I think it's like, if you're a fan of his like work, and you're a fan of like his other movies, you'll be a fan of this per se, but it's not something maybe that in a void, you can be like, oh, this is like a top 10 top peak peak movie, because it only really like the first
00:18:51
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Yes. If this was the first way to be like, this is Judd Apatow as a producer. Yeah.
00:18:58
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it would be kind of confusing. Cause the jokes, the people like Jason Siegel's whole character, you're like, who the fuck is this guy? Like character, but you don't realize that like, that's basically Jason Siegel and every Judd Apatow movie, like bodies by Jason. Yeah. But used to be here, but now it's here. Like I did that. I did that. And when he's talking to Megan Fox and she's, she's like,
00:19:28
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Bodies by Jason say that. Bodies by Jason. Bodies by Jason say that. Now just say Jason. Jason, doesn't that feel right? Yeah. And then like, and the dude from the IT crowd is in between them and he's like, what the fuck is going on? And he's just like slaying with Megan Fox. Like he was just like, she is like completely into him. Like, yes. Like that is just like something I feel like it wouldn't if you didn't know,
Family Dynamics and Cultural References
00:19:54
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like,
00:19:54
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If you're just watching it, you're like, that's kind of weird. Like what is that? Like what? Yeah. So that's where I think it fits like in his repertoire. I feel like. Yeah. Oh, I mean, I get that. I get that. And I think that makes sense. I just feel like. I don't know, like it's one of those things where it's like. It's called This is 40. It's about it's about growing up, you know, and like having kids and like getting old or not growing up, but like getting older and like having kids and like.
00:20:24
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marriage and like doing all that and stuff and like it just seems like even though there are very funny moments in it and stuff it just feels like it's a little too niche about like what they're going through in the dramatic parts so it's not like it's not like they're overdramatic about what's happening because there's serious stuff that they're dealing with and stuff but at the same time
00:20:47
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it kind of bothered me that like Paul Rudd's character like he his whole fucking business is about to go under and he just won't fucking talk to his wife about it and I'm like yes there were points you're 40 years old and you won't talk to a fucking wife about this like you won't like you can't talk to your wife about this that drives me crazy
00:21:09
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you've given 80k and your wife doesn't know like the way that i was like i wrote that down and was like this this would be like this would be part of the door like what do you mean you're keeping like 100k almost secrets for me like that's insane yeah like
00:21:26
Speaker
But there are also points where like Leslie Mann, like I even wrote this down where I'm like, girl, like, chill out. Like, take a deep breath. Like, yes. Oh, my God. Please take a deep breath. Like, I was like, I don't want to sound like a pick me, but like some of the stuff, like even the very first scene with the like Viagra and she's like going crazy. And I'm like, personally, I'm like, y'all were having a good time until he accidentally said like, y'all could have you could have you were fine.
00:21:50
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Like, y'all could have just kept having a good time. And then, we find out later, he's actually been taking it for two years. Two years! I'm like, bro, you see? Like, you opened a can of worms. Like, you didn't want to know. Like, I just, there's certain points where I'm like, there's certain niche things about their personalities where I'm like, there's no way. Yes. Like, I don't relate to this because I'm not this kind of person and I've never been with this kind of person, per se. But like, I think overall,
00:22:21
Speaker
Two, it's like the first, like I've watched, I watched this movie when it came out. So I was like 18 when it came out and I watched it and it mainly was for the funny bits and not the real life bits because like I was 18. So like, what did I know about really anything that the movie was talking about other than like the good ones, you know? That came out in 2012, 12 years ago. We were much different people. Yeah. And so like I watched it like a couple of years ago and then I watched it a couple of days ago.
00:22:52
Speaker
And like watching it now, I will say that like it resonates a little bit more like some of the like family dynamics and like navigating your friends and like navigating, like not being like, like, I don't know, like at work, like I'm not necessarily like the youngest, like a girlie on the block anymore. Like there's definitely like, so it's just like, I don't know, like just navigating like certain things that are like, okay, I see like this joke makes more sense to me or this kind of like, right.
00:23:21
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thing but yeah some of the some of the things I was like this is kind of an
00:23:26
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this is a crazy thing to be arguing about. Like, chill. Well, no, dude, what I had written down for her, like when she was like, there's like random moments where she was just driving me crazy and I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? You're getting that mad at him about this? When he's, like at the end of the day, I guess she's taking, she's mad at him because he's not taking a shit. He's just sitting on the toilet to get away from them and stuff. But like the fact that, which is hilarious and like, honestly, like it's like,
00:23:54
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it's like that's kind of like a classic dad bit like watch that shit but also but also in my mind i was like he might just need to take more shits he's 40 you know like maybe he's digitally taking shit she was like it was like 30 minutes yeah yeah he's like i already flushed like i flush as i go and it's like okay so he's lying he is doing that that's fine but like the fact that um the fact that uh she comes in there to be like you missed her do her first flip on the trampoline and she's like
00:24:23
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I don't know, like how old do you say that? It's like at least eight or nine. Like, like she's like eight or nine, maybe even 10. There's something she's like, she's like yelling at him for not for missing the first flip on the trampoline. And it's like, are you fucking kidding me? Exactly. It wasn't her first word. It wasn't her first title. It was a flip on the trampoline that she can do a thousand times. Exactly.
00:24:48
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Exactly. That's exactly what he said. He was like, cool. Like I'll see her when she does it again. She can do it now. Like, like it's better the next time she does it. Cause she can do it. So many, so many things that she was just getting so mad at him about that. I was like, are you kidding me right now? But then again, you know, I mean, to argue, you know, play devil's advocate for myself, it's like,
00:25:16
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We're seeing them, we're seeing like them not actually talking and arguing about what they're supposed to be arguing about, the actual issues. And there's not any reason to get mad at each other and stuff. And like, maybe that's part of it. You know, like maybe that's kind of the point is like they actually finally have their big fight and they actually talk about what they want to talk about, which is like, all right, like sure, I get that. But at the same time, at the same time, it's like,
00:25:42
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Oh, you're really just picking fights about anything. Like even seeing where they're like, she's like, we're going to do this, we're going to do that. And they like start to have a fight as they're like going over the list of how they're going to do better. Yeah, you better. He's like, okay. He's like, and then you're not going to do that thing you do. Like, she's like, I don't do that. And I will continue not to do that. Like, like whatever specifically it is, I don't remember. But like,
00:26:08
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I don't know. She just takes some random fights. Yes. But that is that's my biggest like hot take, I think, is that I don't necessarily like her as the like lead.
00:26:20
Speaker
Person as like the like the lead lady. I think it's her I think it's I don't think it's Leslie man I think it's the character. I didn't like the character. Yes. Yes, exactly Leslie man Leslie man in my opinion was like with was great as she always is when she's on on the screen but like
00:26:41
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he, she like that character had some odd choices and stuff that I was like, yeah, what's going on? Like, I don't know. But you know, that's what could have been because she's perfect. Like he is very much like, he lied about 80k.
00:26:59
Speaker
he's obsessed with that random band man when he when she said like why don't you just find like a 15 year old like a hot 15 year old and make them a star and so we can eat like we have bills to pay like i understand this is your passion project but like can we balance this out with like fuck that dude yeah like yeah i don't know i just also like oh just the fact that um
00:27:24
Speaker
And the fact that he was going to sell the fucking house. Like he was like talking about selling the house with like his financial advisor and like getting offers on the house. And she had no idea. Not a single clue. Like that's the thing. Like, sir, like, you know what? Yes. For like every little like nitpicky fight that like, what's her name, Debbie? I think that's the character's name. Like that's her name. One of the pick like Paul Rudd's character was like actually causing like things that would know we're like actually going to fight about this. Like,
00:27:52
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She's telling him not to eat a cupcake. He's like, the house is for sale. Don't tell my wife. Like, what?
00:28:01
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Yeah. I will say, though, also, him eating that cupcake out of the sink at the beginning almost made me turn the entire movie off and say, I'm not watching you guys. I closed my eyes. I was so fucking disgusting. I wasn't ready for it. I was like, I watched it. I was like, maybe he won't do it. Maybe this is him trying to be better already? Nope. Horrible. Absolutely. All she's doing is all she does is sneak sigs. I'd rather have somebody sneak sigs behind my back than eat cupcakes out of a fucking sink. That has, like, shit in it.
00:28:30
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I did make a note that the most relatable point in the movie was her, like, sneaking sigs. Like, every time she needed to sneak a sig, I was like, I feel that 100% at this point in my life. It definitely crossed my mind. But it definitely, I didn't write it down, but I swear to God, it crossed my mind when I was like, oh, she's sneak sigs. Asia can relate to that. Like, I wrote it down. I was like,
00:28:56
Speaker
A scene I couldn't relate to. Like... I thought of a... I thought of a... I want to get in trouble with this. I thought of you and Savannah. Stop. Stop. Take out. Edit it. Edit that out. Edit it out. Hey, just edit out. Cut that out. Cut that out. It's okay. It's okay. Savannah, if you hear this, text me. Fuck you. And I'll know you listen. That way I know you listen. I'll tell.
00:29:23
Speaker
Also Kyle could, Kyle might just listen and tell her, hey Tex, Jacob, fuck you. Either way, that's fine. Either way, we'll know, we'll know. Either way, we'll know, which I'll be totally happy about. That's funny as fuck. Yeah, I did low-key think about you and that, I was like, she stinks things. Asia loves her. Asia loves this girl. Yeah, that's what made me rally behind her. That's what made me rally behind her.
00:29:49
Speaker
Yeah, even when she was doing her bullshit. Also, can we just talk about like, so this came out. So I wasn't a lost fan. Like I never watched Lost. Did it end in 2012? No, no, no, no. So that's part of the joke. That's part of the joke. So like Lost ended when probably like we were like in seventh or eighth grade. So like 2007, 2008.
00:30:11
Speaker
Like it was a big deal when we were kids. So that's why it's like her parents are just like, Oh, I know. Yeah. It was a huge deal. Yeah. It ended in 2012. I just looked at that. It ended in 2012. It was 2004 to 2010.
00:30:27
Speaker
Oh, okay. Is when it finally is how long it was. Yeah. Okay. So she's not that behind because I thought it was like part of the couple of years of like, yeah. Cause there's a point where she's like, they're all dead. They're all whatever. And her dad's like, and Paul, it's like, I don't give a fuck about that. Like, yeah, he's like, I don't care. Like years ago, like, can you wrap this up? Like,
00:30:50
Speaker
Yeah, cry cry tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, so like she sees two years behind on what was one of the biggest TV phenomena Yeah of the time so I was two years behind so I never I never watched it. I heard it was great. I just thought that was like yeah, I heard it was a weird but like I just thought it was like a weird thing of like I
00:31:09
Speaker
was like, why is she so obsessed with fucking Lost of all TV shows? Like I don't, I don't know. I get that they were like, I don't know. They, I obviously like, they were trying to incorporate like the kids are like daughter who's going through puberty is like on her phone too much and on her iPad too much and like won't hang out with the family and like yada yada yada and all that kind of bullshit and stuff like that. But why was it Lost? Like is that the bit that she's so obsessed with like this like show? Like is it just that simple?
00:31:38
Speaker
I don't know if the bit was like, cause she's a teenage girl. So it's like being obsessed with something like that. Like it's, whether it's a boy band or like a this or that, like it's like loss was like her thing and like she made it where it was like, why doesn't everyone get that this is so important? Like it's not even that it was important to me, it was important. Like, and so like, I think that was just kind of trying to show like,
00:32:01
Speaker
the 13 year old girl kind of vibes coming off of that character. A very much like, this is the most important thing to me now and you're not, you don't care. So like I'm upset. Yeah.
00:32:13
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I don't know like I don't know if that's how I tried to like rap like no I mean like that makes sense I was just like I just like every time she was like obsessively talking about lost I was just like why lost that like why is that her obsession? But like I like fixated on that but that makes sense Sorry, there's a point there where she's like
00:32:34
Speaker
I, or no, Paul Rudd is like his character and they're in the car and they're talking about how many episodes she's watched. And he's like, I don't know if you can watch a hundred episodes in five weeks. And I was like, you a hundred percent watch.
00:32:50
Speaker
personally attacked. She was watching it in the car while they were driving somewhere. Yeah, I don't even want shows like that like in the car like why but like you can do that. Yeah, I was pretty normal pace to binge watch something like not even binge watching and that's just casually watching something over a long period like Michael and Amelia.
00:33:10
Speaker
Like Michael Nomino, they've been rewatching Game of Thrones. We've kind of talked about it and like our football league has come up and like they, I want to say like three weeks ago, they were on like season two and like yesterday they sent like a message or like a Snapchat to like our our football league.
00:33:33
Speaker
And they were like in the background you could see they were in the last season like yeah, it's been like three weeks like seasons of the show in like a few weeks. I was like, what are you talking about? A hundred shows a hundred shows episodes in five weeks. I'm like, have you ever like literally three times that much?
00:33:53
Speaker
I literally wrote like have you ever like like a girly after a breakup binging Grey's Anatomy like you can easily binge that like there's like a thousand episodes are you kidding me there's that in two weeks easy no problem it is like I have probably watched the entirety of community
00:34:09
Speaker
Yeah. I watched it one time back to back. As soon as the last episode ended, I restarted it again because I was just in like a loop of like almost wanting to watch Community as like a decompressing thing. For a while, I probably watched those two seasons back to back and like
00:34:27
Speaker
the entire series back to back, probably in like two and a half weeks at most. Easy. Like that's the thing. I was like, it just. Anytime I was at home and it was like I was just chilling or like I was like making food, like after work.
00:34:40
Speaker
like before work like anytime anytime I had free time when I was at home that's what was on the TV I crushed it like so he's completely wrong about that flew my mind I was like you have no concept well talk to his wife about the serious issues they have and he doesn't think people can watch that much TV yeah but he listens to this fucking old music which is fine
00:35:03
Speaker
but he's obsessed with it and won't let the new music in. Come on, bro. No, no. Like you have some very, uh, he wouldn't even care about the beef going on right now. Like he wouldn't even fucking care.
00:35:18
Speaker
we can't get into it because this isn't a music. Yeah, it's unfortunately, but like, she's she's wild. And I love in keeping up with it. I will say just shout out shout out Kung Fu Kenny. That's all say my man.
00:35:36
Speaker
Yes, like honestly, just Google it. Just Google it. It's a lot to unpack. It's a lot. It's a lot to unpack. Go down the rabbit hole. It's, it's wild and everything. Kendrick Lamar is just the best ever. Like he's just insane. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if Drake will recover, but we'll see. Yeah. I know you're a big, I know you're a Drake fan. I know you're a Drake fan.
00:36:07
Speaker
You can't tell me Kung Fu Candy's not how you're just like killing it. It's been a rough weekend. It's been a rough weekend. It's been a rough weekend. If the sleepless nights were ahead, I'll say that. I'll say that as I was good for my boy. Oh yeah, I'm sure. Like, you should be. Like, he's not doing good. But regardless, yeah, like, just like, the fact he won't fucking like pay attention to any new music and stuff and like,
00:36:29
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. You're like, okay, but also, like, you can't...
00:36:34
Speaker
But again, part of it is the immaturity of them and stuff. They fight over their difference in music and stuff and everything. It feels like she's coming from a place of you should listen to new music so your business can do better and stuff. And he's coming from a place of
00:36:52
Speaker
But no, I don't want to. Also, I'm secretly selling the fucking house because the business is going back because I won't listen to what you say. And I won't talk to you about it and take your advice and stuff. For a movie called This Is 40, I just felt like they were both very immature. That's true. Because by 40, I don't want to be having those arguments where I'm finding out key critical things about our finances. Yeah. Because don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong.
00:37:23
Speaker
I wouldn't consider myself the most mature 29-year-old in the world in a lot of ways, but I feel like when it comes to stuff like that, like, you know, like, I'm very immature in a lot of ways for sure, but like, that's some real shit. Like, you gotta talk about that shit.
00:37:41
Speaker
like you in the relationship where it's like, oh, like, you know, I would just learning how to communicate. It's like, no, like, all are like, like, y'all have like, two kids, like two, like, yeah, and one. Yeah. Y'all have been married for a bit. Like y'all should not be. You should know how to communicate those kind of things, which are like, I'm selling the house. We're bankrupt.
00:38:05
Speaker
I bet. Um, technical difficulties. It's raining as fuck here in Chattanooga. Um, so the internet kind of crapped out, but that's fine. We're all good. Uh, what were we talking about? Exactly. Okay. Um, we were talking about binge watch TV maybe, but then maybe we'd moved on from that combo. No, I think we were talking about, um, Oh my God. What's it fucking called? Uh, we're talking about him.
00:38:36
Speaker
being immature, bad with music, or like not wanting to listen to music. I think we're talking about like, how like, immature he is. Yeah, as a, yeah. It's just in general. Yeah, kind of thing. But regardless, we can move on from that. I think I pretty much made my point. I did have one more thing that just kind of like, confused me and maybe felt like a little too niche to
00:39:04
Speaker
his life, like Judd Apatol's life. Does he have like siblings who are like 24, like almost like 30 years younger than him? I don't know because both of them had, like both of their dads had like new families basically. So like, I don't know. Yeah, exactly. If that is like that bothered the fuck out of me. I want to look it up. Like I have absolutely no clue.
00:39:33
Speaker
Yeah, live investigate like blood like live investigate that because like that just really bothered me I was like so his dad has a set of triplets that are like six years old so he's about to be 40 and like he is 40 and
00:39:53
Speaker
there's three like six year olds that like his youngest daughter. Like where did they come from? Why? No, they're, they are younger. There's so much younger than his youngest. Where did they come from? How come he's so broke, but he has these three triplets. I had so many questions about that. So they did. There was like a one off joke about like when the first kid shows up that it's like, um,
00:40:21
Speaker
He says he, like the kid says he came from a test tube, like he was like a test tube baby. But then like they accidentally, but they somehow had triplets from like an IVF thing. You're more likely to have multiples.
00:40:40
Speaker
Yeah, so they probably tried for it's like that's the joke now I get yeah, it's like I get that but like I'm also like the fuck but that's why he gives him so much money too is cuz he's like Yeah, he fucking gets to take care of and I can't work because of my blood pressure and like that's his joke is like Oh, I can't ever take care of the kids or work or anything because of my blood pressure pressure like blah blah blah and then like and then uh Debbie Leslie man's dad like
00:41:08
Speaker
He like left them when she was eight and then married someone else. And then had a kid, had kids against, cause they're like, cause like those kids are like, which is like a little less weird, I guess. Cause I mean, they're still like only like fucking 16, 18, 20 years old. They're still like so far off. Like, I don't know. It's super weird. Cause like if she's 40, like she's turning 40 in this movie,
00:41:36
Speaker
So like birthday is the same fucking week. Like she, he left when she was eight. So like, that's what 32 years in between, like, and then he met someone, waited 10 years and then had kids again, like, and then never reached out and contacted his other kids when he, well, I guess he does talk to her enough. Like they had that. Yeah.
00:42:03
Speaker
But like, it's weird that I don't I don't know. I feel like I needed more. Either they needed to tell me more about it or they needed to like not tell me anything. Yeah, for sure. Well, like, and that's one of the things that's like super weird about the entire thing is like because they're like, oh, yeah, like because they're like when they're yelling at each other, when they're yelling at each other later about it, like when they have the big family fight like at the birthday thing.
00:42:33
Speaker
Like he says that they saw each other the other day and then Paul Rudd's dad is like, and wouldn't you see her before that? And he was like, Oh, it's been about seven years. So like, they like hardly ever see each other and stuff. And like, I mean, he is a being like good to the grandkids and stuff. Like by the end of it, but like, it's just a weird thing. And that's not his dynamic.
00:43:00
Speaker
No, like he doesn't have, he has siblings, but they're like, he has an older brother and a younger sister and they're like, like normally spaced. So like within like five years of each other. So it's like, I don't know where that dynamic came from. I don't know if it was just to add some like complexity, comedic relief type situations. Just a little bit of like absurdity to their situation.
00:43:28
Speaker
like to overdramaticize the shit they have to go through and stuff. I don't know. I just thought it was kind of fucking weird. I don't understand this part of it. And I didn't really
00:43:44
Speaker
Like I didn't think it added anything except for it's like, well, this is why his dad needs money. Like honestly, at the end of the day, like his dad just hits him up for money all the time. Cause he would have been believable to me if there were no kids at all, even around like before, like I just assumed he was just giving his dad money because like, that's what like, I thought that was like part of the, sorry. Like I thought that was part of the, like the thing too, which is like being 40 is like being in that kind of in between where you're like, I'm taking care of my parents, but I'm also.
00:44:11
Speaker
taking care of my kids. So it's like, yeah, maybe that's what it is. Like maybe that's what they're trying to show where it's like, you're like the ultimate caretaker at that point in your life because you have to do it. Yeah. Both. I don't know if you do both ends of the spectrum kind of thing. Like, yeah, but like, I don't know. It was just like,
00:44:29
Speaker
I don't know, it was just weird. And like, again, maybe it's just an over dramatization to like, prove like, hit that point a little bit harder. And it's like, okay, like, I get that, I guess. But like, it just kind of felt like I didn't think it added anything. And you could have just been like, yeah, his dad kind of sucks. And then like, her dad like, like, is a piece of shit, like, without those characters. Exactly. And then like,
00:44:54
Speaker
And again, it would have cut some time because they did scenes longer for the bits and stuff like that. So I feel like that's part of my big issue with it is we have so much complexity for the sake of complexity, and it ended up making the movie longer, which it did not need to be. So I feel like that's why I was like, I want to bring that up because it's like,
00:45:15
Speaker
the fuck. So this is kind of not relevant overall to the whole plot, but also is, but I also really want to talk about it because I think it is a kind of funny like side quest.
Subplots and Character Interactions
00:45:29
Speaker
The whole like Megan Fox and the, and then like Jodi, like the two people who work at Debbie's store and like who stole the 12K and shit.
00:45:41
Speaker
That shit was hilarious to me. It's so fucking funny. Because Jodi is 100% not who you expect Jodi to be when she gets introduced to the character. And then you see her for the first time and you're like, this is Jodi?
00:46:02
Speaker
This is Jodie. Yeah, this is Jodie. Like that's the that's the actual movie. Yeah. Like that's like the gas right there. Like her just like once when she finally confronts her when Debbie finally confronts Jodie and Jodie is just like, Oh my god, I'll give Jodie is like
00:46:27
Speaker
Kai is a kite on Oxy. It's singing and it's all fucked up, demonic voice at her under her breath and shit. What are you doing? And then also, they're like, whatever Megan Fox's character's name is, they're like, she's like, is that your new Acura? Is that your new Acura? And she's like, yeah, it's cool. It's not a Porsche, though.
00:46:53
Speaker
Where'd you get those fancy clothes and stuff? So like, it's obviously her and like, it turns out she's a prostitute on the side. I'm an escort, but like, I only do it like four to eight times. I only do it 60 to 70 times a year. Exactly. Like, are you kidding me? Like, I feel like that didn't hit as hard as it did back in like 2012 because like,
00:47:22
Speaker
lots of people are like only fans people and like things. Yeah, exactly. Like, yeah, like that probably is how she got report like, okay, like, for me to win Leslie, man, Debbie like her, like she's just like,
00:47:37
Speaker
Oh, okay. So it's got to be Jodi and just like fully supports her and is like, is like, all right, like that makes sense. I gotta go confront Jodi. I'm like, all right, good looking out, you know, questions. Like, I feel like that was like, hell yeah. She didn't like, she like, like the fact that she didn't like judge her for it or anything. She was just like,
00:47:56
Speaker
Okay, so you didn't still 12k for me it was this other girl I gotta go talk to her about like Yeah, I was like cool that's that's that's actually pretty fucking cool like in pattern of her So something that's not cool and modern that happens in the movie and seemed totally unnecessary and so out of left field When the daughter they come back so They go have their little trip
00:48:25
Speaker
the two of them and, uh, Leslie Mann and Paul Rudd, where they eat the cookie and like they do all that stuff and they have a great time, which I love that whole thing. That shit was funny. And like, that was just like, like, like that's dope. That was just a great scene overall. Um, like great montage and everything. But, um, then they come back and the youngest daughter has an ear infection. So they take her, they go to the,
00:48:48
Speaker
eastern medicine doctor and it's an indian guy and paul runs making fun of him for his like accent and shit and like making fun of like eastern medicine and stuff like to his face and shit and it's just like okay like this is so out of place like it just seems so out of place like it's like why is this
00:49:10
Speaker
Like, why do we need this whole scene? The only time it comes back is when Debbie finds out that she's somehow pregnant, even though she's 40, is her gynecologist, like, says, like, something must have worked with the Eastern medicine stuff that you're doing, and, like, so, you know, your vagina, like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and, like, you're pregnant, like, and, like, and stuff like that. Like, it's just like, what? Like, I don't know.
00:49:42
Speaker
I'm dying because I, this, sorry, this, what you just said reminded me of something that I really liked about this movie, which is that it highlighted, it highlighted like aging, like what aging looks like for women, but also for men. Right. Because like there were certain things where I was like, okay, like that's interesting. Like, I guess I never really like thought about that as something that happens with age, you know? And the same thing, like you were like describing,
00:50:12
Speaker
Leslie Man's issues through this was very funny. I understood exactly what was happening, which was that she had a fibroid. The fibroid shrunk, and so the fibroid was taking up space. It was a whole thing, and so it was just really...
00:50:35
Speaker
So then our body just turned on and she was Gucci swag after pregnant. So it's fine. I mean, that's, that's exactly what he said to my ears. Like, he was like,
00:50:49
Speaker
Yeah, that's cool. Like, he's like, that's crazy how it happened. Just turned it off and turned it back on. And we're back. Yeah, like, because you did this Eastern medicine stuff. And like, yeah, it was just like, I don't know. It was just like, like, that's the only time it ever came back up. And it's like, okay, so she's into Eastern medicine. And he doesn't believe in Eastern medicine. Does that mean we need to make fun of this? This man's accent? It does not. And it seems very out of character for Paul Rudd as a person.
00:51:19
Speaker
Yeah, for that to be a approved joke for him. Please someone let me know if Paul Rudd actually sucks. No. Because I need to know. Because if something's happened and I missed it, I need to know. But he's cool.
00:51:35
Speaker
Like, he's a good guy. Like, I like him. Like, he's a he's a funny good guy. Might be a vampire because he hasn't aged in like 30 years. But he played this is 40. What is that? It's a 12 years ago. He's playing a 40 year old and he looks the exact same if not younger. And he looked the exact same when he was in parks and rec. And he was even younger when that happened. Like, it's ridiculous. Like, so
00:52:02
Speaker
I don't know, so let me know if he sucks anybody out there, but I hope not. Yeah, I don't know. I just like... Let's see. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like just like... Oh, I have this written down. So you know when...
00:52:31
Speaker
Paul Rudd's trying to see what's going on with his asshole. He's using the phone and the mirror and stuff. Okay, the fact that she wouldn't look, it was disgusted by it. I was like, what? Are you kidding me? Yes, that was another thing where I was like, girlie, this is your husband. I don't know. What? Was he not there when you gave actual birth? He said, I watched you give birth twice. Just look at my butthole.
00:52:57
Speaker
And she didn't ask her to feel or touch or smell or nothing. It was a simple glance acknowledge, let me know what's going on. Didn't even ask her to take a picture. Because he was trying to take a picture. Didn't even ask her to take a picture. He just said, can you double the curve? What does this look like? That it's not anything we need to be alarmed about. And she had to be like, I know what it looks like. I know what one should look like.
00:53:22
Speaker
Can you tell me if it looks weird? And she goes up and immediately goes, that's a hemorrhoid, and then walks away. And it's like, bitch, that wasn't hard. That's what he needed you to do. And he could have, you could have done that five minutes ago.
00:53:35
Speaker
I was just like, I literally wrote down, she won't look at his butthole question mark. That's fucked up. That's crazy. That's definitely something like if that's what you husband or wife to like look at a spot on your body, then like, who are you asking? Like, you know, what are we doing here? Where are you getting that confirmation? So yeah.
00:54:02
Speaker
this is clearly not working like if you will like check that out for me like yeah I'm confused yeah I definitely noted that I didn't write it down but I definitely remember being like okay yeah like it's it's it was just a weird thing it was just one of those weird things for her character that I was like this character like she kind of sucks like she's not wrong about a lot but like but a lot of the serious stuff but like
00:54:24
Speaker
Come on, man. Yeah, that's why I was like, sometimes I'm like, this is not, that's not that crazy. Like there's a lot of stuff you could be mad about with him. And this shouldn't be one of them. But yeah. Yeah, I think that the only time besides the end of the movie, when everything is like, okay, and they like, you know, they're all good and stuff, the all I just love that the only time that they immediately without question agreed with each other is when they were in the
00:54:52
Speaker
When they were in the the meeting with the principal and most McCarthy they just instinctually were like Like that on the same page and then like you see them walk out and they're standing far apart and
00:55:04
Speaker
and they get into their separate cars and they don't like acknowledge or touch or hug or like kiss or anything and just like go and it's just like you know obviously that's like a whole moment of like like there's still something there they're obviously still on each other's side at the end of the day when other people are attacking them but like they're attacking each other in their relationship
00:55:23
Speaker
And I thought that scene is very, very funny in the principal's office. The most I laughed during the whole thing, for sure. It was just one after another, just funny as fuck. But then you have that, that's the whiplash thing from that good review, that good quote I had. But then it's like, that's a very poignant visual storytelling thing that worked really well. And yeah, the whole movie works like that. But at the end of the day, I just feel like,
00:55:53
Speaker
I feel like that moment did it the best, you know what I mean? I know that there's a lot of technical difficulties. Again, we're back on it. My fault, not the weathers. It's fine. But yeah, I felt like there was a lot of super poignant moments.
00:56:13
Speaker
that maybe I missed because I haven't seen it except for the once but like that one really hit and I thought it really worked the principal like that funny scene and then they leave and they're not they're still but then they immediately go to not talking to each other yada yada and like all that stuff but like
00:56:32
Speaker
I just feel like I missed some stuff, but- There is one moment that I think, the moment that got me the most was when she's talking to her youngest daughter after her youngest daughter is like, I don't like when you fight, or whatever she said, basically. And she's like, what do you wanna be when you grow up? And like- Oh my God, yeah. And all of those things. And I just thought that was really sweet, cause I'm like in that moment, that's actually her talking to her daughter, you know what I mean?
00:57:02
Speaker
It felt like that was like a real moment. That shit was super fucked because she says like, what does she say? She's like, do you want to have kids? And she's like, yeah, but just one so that they don't fight with each other. And it's like, oh, they're fucking these kids up right now. That sucks. And her just like, because it's like kids are like brutally honest. So it's just like, you know, like,
00:57:27
Speaker
She's not sugarcoating it. She's not, like, you know exactly how you're impacting her in that moment. And so, I don't know, that was a really, like, real moment to me in the movie. Yeah. Oh, 100%. There's definitely, like, the, like, the drama versus comedy and stuff. Like, there's really good moments of both for sure. But, like, I don't know. At the end of the day, I just still don't love this movie. And, like, maybe it's, like, I don't think it's, like,
00:57:58
Speaker
I don't think it's just me being like, I want this Judd Apatow movie to be funnier and more like, like ridiculous and over the top like Pineapple Express or Superbad or Forgetting Sarah Marshall and stuff like that. Like, you know, like I like all those movies because like,
00:58:20
Speaker
Like all the ones I listed of Judd Avatar is like, I can relate to super bad. I can relate to forgetting Sarah Marshall. Like I can relate to all of the freaks and geeks. Like I can relate to that. I've been through that. You know what I mean? Like maybe not 40 year old virgin. Maybe not Alan. But like, you know, and I don't have a stepbrother, I guess, but like, we're not tough guys. Jesus Christ. I was like, do you have something to share on the part?
00:58:54
Speaker
don't put it out to the but uh um like yeah I don't know like I feel like this is like a very niche movie about like this certain age in your life and like I may like it more you know as I get closer to that age and stuff but like I don't know at the same time like
00:59:12
Speaker
At the same time, I felt like some of the pacing was a little weird with how long it is. Like it's a little too long. And we talked about like, why it's a little too long, rehash it and everything. So, but like, I agree with you though, you know, like that it has its place. And like, there's a reason why he made this movie. And like, why people are so I like it or I don't.
00:59:36
Speaker
You know what I mean? It's very 50-50 down the middle on all the reviews, all the scores and everything. It's literally averaged out to probably 50 percent. Exactly. I feel like if I had watched this when I was younger, I would have been like, yeah, there's parts that are super funny and I wouldn't have even thought about the dramatic parts.
01:00:06
Speaker
I don't know.
Conclusion: 'This is 40' in Apatow's Work
01:00:07
Speaker
I don't think I can say this is a good movie though, personally. That is insane. That is insane. I don't know if I can concede on it. And I know you're not going to concede on it. You have very good reasons not to. I made some very good points.
01:00:25
Speaker
I think we're gonna have to take it to the audience and let people vote on it. And I swear to God, if that comes back 50-50, I'm gonna fucking riot. Like, I kinda wanna experiment. It's very fitting. Exactly. Like, I kinda wanna, like, see what happens. If we don't, if we're 50-50, see what, like, when I post, like, the poll, um, like, see if it comes back 50-50. Cause, like, I like, let's put it this way.
01:00:55
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I don't think it's a bad movie, but it's definitely my least favorite Judd Apatow project I've ever seen. Okay. We should have done, instead of top five, bottom five.
01:01:22
Speaker
All right, what's your bottom five? Give me, give me, give me a couple of bottom ones. I'm not ready. I think, oh, hot take, Anchorman is in one of, Anchorman is on there. Okay, no, Anchorman is just a fucking gas dude. We're not ready, it's okay. I honestly, I do, I like dislike that movie with like a passion, but that's a different, that's a different topic for a different day, so. I guess so, yeah, Jesus.
01:01:49
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Let me see. Let me slow down. Okay. He's like, let's see. Scroll down. Maybe 40 year old virgin. Just because I was like, I'm not, I'm not a big Steve Carell fan, which like, again, I don't know if I should be saying that live into the public, but I'm just not a huge fan of him. And so I think that's where that stems from. Not the movie itself, just him. So like, but here's the thing, like kicking and screaming with Will Ferrell.
01:02:20
Speaker
with the little, like, soccer kids. Was that Dodgeball? No, that, I'm literally thinking of the movie Dodgeball. Anyway. Sorry. That's okay. The name Kicking and Screaming. Yeah, sorry. In that hole, that was really Dodgeball.
01:02:35
Speaker
But uh, an Italianite knocked up is fucking amazing. Never seen that movie. You've never seen it. Which is crazy because is this is 40 is like a sequel spin off from that movie. Yeah. Like Leslie Mann is in that one. She's, she's, uh, Catherine Heigl is like best friend and that one and stuff. I've never seen it beyond like
01:02:59
Speaker
Do you have to see that movie? It's so fucking good. And then, do you ever see Walk Hard, the Dewey Cox story? No, I didn't. I do know. It's so fucking funny. It is so good. It is so fucking good. OK, here's one, Drillbit Taylor. I've never. Producer on that one. It's OK. The problem with the problem with that is a PG-13 movie.
01:03:28
Speaker
Oh, I don't watch this. Yeah, exactly. So it's like, it is what it is. Same with year one, PG-13, not his best work. I'm pretty sure year one is like his lowest rated film. Yeah, out of the ones next to it, it's a 4.9 on IMDB, which could get shocking. I'm pretty sure it's like, it's like the lowest. And that's about to start the movie with like, oh my God, Michael, Sarah and Jack Black.
01:03:58
Speaker
Yeah, it's like, okay, yes. I'm surprised that they're not as rated as high rated higher. Just which is just crazy. Because it's like Jack Black. The Jack Black movie with Joe Dappin like that's a that's bad. Somehow. I feel like they could have salvaged that and made that into something. So Oh, did you ever watch? I have another honorable mention. Did you ever watch Love on Netflix?
01:04:23
Speaker
with Gillian Jacobs, Britta from- Yeah, no, I never watched that. And Paul Rust. Oh, dude, it is so fucking good. It is so, so, so fucking good. When I was doing research earlier, I saw that that was one of the shows that he has produced, correct? Is that a show? He was executive producer on it. Yeah, yeah. But I didn't do any research into what that show was.
01:04:53
Speaker
It is so fucking good. What? Give me like a quick synopsis. So I'll let's see. Let me go back to. And. Oh, hold on. I'll read you the log line as it's called. Mm hmm. Oh, my God. Oh. Wait, there it is. OK, so it is
01:05:22
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see, this is a weird logline, a program, a TV show that follows a couple who must navigate the exhilarations and humiliations of intimacy, commitment, and other things they were hoping to avoid. So it's basically like Gillian Jacobs and Paul Wester in two completely different places in their lives because they like
01:05:45
Speaker
There's two completely different people, but they both just got out of really long-term relationships for different reasons. And then they just meet cute, meet, and then they start hanging out, and it follows them trying to be a couple, basically, and stuff. But it's super, super cool, because it's like, I don't know, it feels like it's like,
01:06:14
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when I remember it's been I've only seen it once like the entire way through because I like watch the first season it's got two or three seasons I think I watched it all just as it came out and I haven't gone back to it but it's like they like they're two completely different people they have a meet cute they start hanging out they start dating kind of like weird stuff and they like it's kind of interesting because like she is very much like
01:06:41
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not wanting to be in a relationship like hates the thought of it doesn't want to deal with it yada yada yada all that bullshit and then he's like really sad wants to be in a relationship again and like and like as they like get deeper into the relationship they kind of like divert really kind of like to swap
01:07:04
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Yeah, like that like she gets more into it as he gets less interested in stuff and like just like the dynamic between them and like but it's also it's John Appetal executive produced so it's like it's very funny and it's like drama honestly it's like it's kind of like this is 40 like it's a dramedy like it's a bomb dramedy and stuff I think you would really like it um you should watch that point is I still think this is 40 is one of the
01:07:30
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bottom of the barrel overall of his R-rated stuff. I'm not, you're one in drill, but Taylor don't count because they're PG-13. Like they just don't, they genuinely don't count. Okay. To be fair, yes. Because ultimately, I mean, this is 40 wasn't even my first choice for this movie. I wouldn't be pineapple express. And of course it's too highly. Are you kidding me? I see, I watched that movie like,
01:07:59
Speaker
When it came out, I got a DVD copy of it. I watched that movie probably like... I was thinking only to say why it's a bad movie. Oh, okay. Well, I could do that. I was like, I can't talk shit about it. I was going to call it a sword. That's right, because I've seen that movie one sentence. It wasn't long ago. It was there real quick. What is it? Why is it a bad movie? It wasn't long ago.
01:08:29
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I think we're gonna leave this one up to the audience to decide I swear to God if they say it's if they comes back 5050 I'm gonna fucking lose my goddamn yeah like I want to be so yeah all right well we'll see about that I'll post that um
01:08:58
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on insta
01:09:10
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Not on TikTok, because I got kicked off of TikTok when I tried to make a TikTok. I literally made a TikTok and like, scrolled and didn't make anything for like, two weeks and just like, looked at some stuff and stuff. And then they like, perma-banned me for violating things. What did you violate? Nothing. They wouldn't tell me. They were just like, you violated the policy. What was the video you posted? I didn't post the video. That's what I'm saying. I hadn't even posted anything. Oh, sorry. I thought you said you did post, say. No, I hadn't posted anything. I just looked at shit.
01:09:38
Speaker
but it doesn't matter because the government's banning TikTok, so it doesn't even fucking matter. So I'll be on Instagram, which is an American company, so it'll never go away. So it'll be fine. So I'll be over on Insta at Badminton Bay all over, all over the case. Yeah, I'll post a poll about this, maybe, because we need to know if it's good or not, and I don't think we're going to come to an agreement on it. And I'm also just kind of curious to see
01:10:08
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you know, if it's 50-50 or not. I'm just curious about that. Well, thanks for being here and chatting. It was a good time. Sorry about the technical difficulties on my end. It's all right. We did it all together. Yeah, we all right.
01:10:28
Speaker
Is there anything you want to plug? Google the beef, the Kendrick beef, Google that. I would probably plug the Kendrick Lamar Drake beef of 2024. You should definitely be looking into that. You should know about that. You should be talking about it with your friends. Prayers that everything is just rumors and that everyone is happy, healthy, and loved.
01:10:53
Speaker
So that's it. Thanks, Jacob, for having me. This is my first time on a podcast, so. Oh, yeah. Pretty fun, right? Yeah. I've had a great time, so. Yeah. Hell, yeah. All right. Well, that's about it. Awesome. Awesome. I'm excited to see what the world thinks about This Is 40. We shall see.