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TV Series: Severance with Kyle Lane Pt. 2
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Kyle is in studio! Hear Kyle and I rave about the season finale of the best show to grace our screen in years! We talk theories, we talk who deserves awards and much more!
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Breaking News: 'Bad Movies of Age' Phenomenon
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We interrupt your regularly scheduled programming to bring you some breaking news. There's been reports all over the area of something crazy going on. Something big. People's homes, their minds even, are being taken over by something called... What is it they're calling it? They're calling it Bad Movies of Age.
Recap of 'Bad Movie Debate' Season Finale
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What up, nerds? It's me, Jacob Badd for Bad Movie Debate here to do a season finale recap part two severance episode. And we always have our boy Kyle Lane here, but he's actually here in person, in studio. In the flesh. In the flesh this time. In my outie form. In his outie form, yes.
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Yeah, every episode that we've ever seen with Kyle is his innie. His innie watches all the TV. His outie... doesn't so we're getting outie kyle who had to watch all the 20 episodes now yeah 20 this past week before he came down here because he had no idea what was going on so it's all fresh it's all super fresh um and everything so thank you for making the the journey down yeah um uh coincidentally so you could bring some journey together pokemon cards for justin too so it was a dual trip yeah all kinds of stuff happy to be here love the studio yeah the my as neil said my huge studio yeah yeah all the pas around um
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Can we fly in a beer? Thank you. um but It's not cold enough. Talk. Thank you. thank Perfect. um Okay, so How do you want to do this? Do we
Structuring the Recap and Episode Importance
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want to go like each episode at a time? Or do we want to go into the like the most batshit stuff?
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And kind of work our way back? Or just reference... like Because I'm open for anything. yeah Because, I mean... The back half of this season was fucking nuts. Yeah. And I'll die on the hill that that episode all about Cobell was not a filler episode. No. That shit was crazy and important. No. Super important. So we can go anywhere and I'm ready to go. I think we just hit on the main feats maybe.
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Try to keep it in order but hit on the main feats.
Cobell's Invention of Severance: Origins and Impact
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So number one. just jump right into it cobell invented severance right it was her brainchild it was her idea they took it from her they implemented it they made it their thing and that's fucking nuts yeah the thing i was confused about was she was ah child like she was like miss law she was like like yeah she yeah she was oh yeah she was like in the like yeah ether factory so my question is what were they doing before Because she invented severance, but obviously she didn't invent it as, like, a little child. Yeah, exactly. So it seems like so it seems like she came from, like, a real shitty place, to be completely frank. Horrible parents. Worked as a fucking, like, child, like, ah like literally, like,
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ah Child labor. Yeah, child labor, like, in an ether factory, which her and her boy, you know, whip up whip up a little hit real quick when she comes back to visit. Yeah. um Which was wild, to be honest. Yeah, it took me a while to, like, realize what it was, because I'm like, is this, like, some...
Show's Timeline: Old Meets New Technologies
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sci-fi as the drug that they're using like um that was very interesting that was yeah that was wild to know that because it's like it's such a like you know as we said last episode like near future sci-fi kind of a thing but like the technology obviously like the idea of like having being severed like the chip and everything and all the different things it can do is insane yeah But she literally worked at an ether factory. Right. Like, that's why I'm kind of confused. Like, what fucking year is I know. Because it's like an ether factory and there were children working there. Right. That was like, I don't think people, like, is ether even a thing anymore? Do people even use it for anything? Children sure as fuck don't work anymore, like, in factories. That's like way old. Super illegal.
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Yeah. Yeah. But then they have smartphones and shit. So it's like how I don't know. And she's like, not she's not that old. Like she has gray hair, but like, that's just like, that's for a step. Maybe like 60s or something. Maybe at at most, like a very healthy, but even that. Yeah. Yeah. Which is crazy. Cause you work in an ether factory, you know? So like, and apparently they would just huff that shit whenever they felt like, yeah um,
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Wild.
Cobell's Rise and Influence in Lumen
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um But yeah, so it' so she was working there, and then she but seems like she got like the same like fellowship that Miss Wong is doing. right and like So she was able to get into I mean, obviously, Cobella is smart as fuck. like She's a very intelligent person. like There's no doubt about it. So it's like, yeah, it makes sense. She got...
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into that fellowship, was able to, like, rise above, like, like where she came from and everything. um But... And then she just invented Severus. Yeah. What does that even mean? It makes sense to, like, the past when she's, like, freaking out about being fired and everything like that. Like, kind of feels like Oh, she just doesn't like losing this power that she has, but it turns out that it's like, actually, she just got massively screwed over throughout her whole life um within Severance, or within
Character Depth: Cobell Beyond Antagonist
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Lumen, rather. um No, for sure. So that was interesting to see, and it kind of gave like more of a human side to Kobel. Yeah, it added a lot of depth to her, because... She was just like evil before that. Yeah, she was just like, sucked. yeah And it's like, no, she didn't suck. She was a devout, like, cure person. Right.
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because she invented everything. Like, they're like, the most important thing that they were using to, like, change the world, and she's just... I mean, it makes sense why she's, like, in charge of the severed floor and stuff, because she invented it, so she... Even though she probably doesn't, like, make it or work on it, like, in the advancements and stuff, but, like, doesn't she say in an episode, like, about, like, the Glasgow Protocol?
Family Dynamics: Cobell and the Higher-ups
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Like, she came up with all these ideas for, like, these protocols and stuff. Well, and she knew...
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We thought before that she knew because she knew the doctor. I can't remember her name. The one that was on the outside reintegrating everyone. She knew that reintegration was possible. Yeah, yeah. Which at that point you kind of just thought like, oh, because of all these other people or whatever. But it's like something actually because she's like, yeah it's possible. Yeah, exactly. She knows for a fact it's possible. Which leads me to believe that the higher-ups may not even know that she invented it. I mean, I'm sure like... See, okay, that's what I was thinking because ah I've seen a lot of people talk about like Helena...
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being like, oh, don't, like, overstate your importance or your contributions and stuff. Like, you're not that big of a deal here. And it's like, so do you not know? Because at the time, we didn't know.
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And it was like, wow, it was just a bitchy comment. And now it's like, oh, you may just genuinely not know that, like, your family here, like Like, the whole... Eagans did not do this themselves. I mean, like, the only person who would know based on, like, age would be the Egan guy. But and he would be only, what, like, 20 years max older than her? Yeah, exactly. he's Unless he's, like, 150 or something. I mean, he he is not well. No. You know, and he used that weird phrase at the beginning of the season.
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man. And stuff. So, like, he could be... And again, he could you know he could have all of the other ones in him and stuff because of the chips and stuff. yeah wish I wish we had gotten more Natalie so i we could have gotten more of my whole thing. I'm like, she's
Humorous Theory: Is Rickon a Goat?
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the board because they're all in there. kind of dropped off they shift after... After her last talk with Milchak, she just kind of disappeared. Right. Which I thought was kind of weird. But whatever. I'm sure she'll come back in a big way. um Because like in the mural...
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You know, like every person that Mark had ever interacted with was all is in there yeah and stuff, including the weird woes hollow pointing. Oh, didn't. Because there was three her because there was three different.
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um Helena's like helis on there. There was Helier. There was Helena and then another like a third one. So it's like every single which is all that's all fucking weird. Yeah. um um Oh, quick digression.
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So first episode. yeah i saw some but I saw like one or two people kind of talking about this. When Mark runs to Wellness and it's not there, the fucking weird guy. Oh yeah, the demon in the background? Nothing. Because what this one person pointed out is it's the... It's the...
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The same actor who's credited as playing ah the, like, weird Mark mark pointing in Woe's Hollow. Like, yeah, he's credited as that guy and that guy. That is... Apparently. So strange. didn't confirm. Yeah, we never got an answer on it. No, he literally just never... The only thing that came up is, like, okay, that's supposed to be the same guy, but, like... yeah Why is he just walking around? well Like, what does that fucking mean? Like, surely it was on purpose. It had to have been on purpose. They wouldn't have just left some... don't make mistakes like that in a show like this. No. No, that's this well written, this well produced. It's fucking Apple. So the production value is insane.
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People are obsessed with it. They're doing pop-ups. which are all over the world, which are insane and so good. yeah, like
Production Details: Cold Harbor References
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yeah they they're not going to be like, oh, shit, a fucking PA was in the background and like linger on it. and like notice it inside. Don't worry, we'll just keep it in. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We'll make them ask questions. Honestly, I could see ah the like head writer and Ben Stiller just being like, you know what?
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let's Let's freak them out. let's let Let's let them all buck wild. And I had just seen a video where they were interviewing um the actor who plays Rickon. Yes. Because one of my favorite new theories.
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Have you heard about it? That Rickon's a goat? Yeah. That's, like, my favorite thing. Okay, the only thing that I saw one after the the incredible Gemma backstory episode. Yes. First of all, apparently that was a directorial debut for that director. Oh, really? Like, she's been in the industry, you know, and stuff. like and But this was her first, like, i like directing Right. like thing like absolutely insane that was debatably the best episode of like the whole series it's ah my favorite episode of the entire series i think it's one of the best episodes that we've gotten of television in years if not the past decade it's like it's top 10 if not top five for the past 10 years um
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But somebody was after that episode, somebody when they're having, when they have the flashback where Rick and Devin are over she's like, Oh yeah. Like I'm trying to like climb up this stuff and he's just like prancing up the side like a fucking goat. They need the salt.
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ah People were like going off. Like that was one of the things somebody brought up and I was like, okay. Well, so in the interview I was watching, he was talking about how after season one aired, um,
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The directors and everyone were like, all right, we have to be incredibly intentional about what what we put into this because so many people are making these theories. People are going fucking wild. Which is funny that they accidentally did something that builds on to the goat theory. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So it's like, oh, was is that an accident? Yeah.
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But all that being said, like they definitely intended to have that person in the background. Oh, absolutely. They absolutely did. Because
Actors' Theories on Show Complexity
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I just saw something, an interview with, uh, Gemma, uh, uh, where she was talking about apparently on the, um, the, uh, crib that they're like trying to build and stuff yeah like, and like on the box, like somebody noticed when Mark was like moving it, they literally like freeze framed it, zoomed in really, really hard. And it says cold Harbor on the box.
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Um, Like, it's like like, as if it were like, it's like this model is called cold Harbor, like this model crib from this company. And it's just like, yeah, it makes so much sense. But it's like, cause she was like, she was like, it's crazy that people were like pausing and zooming and like trying to make, make it out. every stream that julia been na And she confirmed though, like, like more or less like, yes, that it does say cold Harbor on the box.
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And it's just like, so with so much intention that dude had to have been there for some reason. Yeah. Still no idea. No idea. One thing that we did get some bit of an answer on, which I had seen like and we had talked about last time, the goats.
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Yes. So there's some kind of sacrificial thing going on there? Is that all they're for? I was talking to a co-worker yesterday about it, and it was like, it seems like that can't be the entire thing.
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But in season one, when Helly and Mark come across that guy with the baby goats, and he's like, it's not time. They're not ready. They're not... and he's like emotional about he's like really freaking out and it's like at the time it's like okay but like we've see like um as again brianna tarth like don't remember the character's name exactly but brianna tarth um who we do see brianna tarth in this in that season finale when she's beating the shit out of drummond oh yeah there is i saw tiktok that was very funny she was like we all know who this is she this like that a still frame behind her she was like this woman right here this brianna tarth yeah We all know who this is right here. She's reintegrating. Yeah, exactly. it are And I was like, yeah, what a badass. Which I thought was funny. yeah um
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It seems like they're literally just for that weird ritual thing. Well, so it goes into my new theory on the show, which I can save for later or I can say it now.
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Save it. Okay. Save it. We'll save it. Gotta make sure people listen. But yeah, I mean, that was like super interesting. um And I was, I think Savannah might've been in the room she's like, not the goat. Yeah, exactly. I know they put it in the little thing and stuff. And it was so cute when she's like, has it in the thing and like, you know, it's a goat. Like, like I can only act so well, you know what I mean? Like, and it like kind of like jumps up and it's like trying to get her attention while he's like, they're like doing this back and forth, like ritualistic conversation. And it's just like,
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Hey, what's up? Come on, mom. And it was like, was like oh my god, they're going to fucking kill this goat. And it's being so
Burt and Irv's Emotional Relationship
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extra cute right now. yeah like ah They probably waited. They were like, let it get cute. They definitely picked the cutest goat they had, for sure. He was the most adorable goat.
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um I really just don't... I just feel like it can't just be that. Having a whole department that is so intensely taking care of them yeah and stuff. A homie is just full-blown dressed up like them. Right.
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I'll say my comments on that, but... Okay, okay, okay. I don't want to... i There is all that Rick and stuff with him being a goat, though, and it is kind of wild because... It crazy. Because, like, there's goats all over his house and stuff. Well, and then when he's reading the book, he's doing that... i can't remember what the word is, but...
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He's enunciating his words like a goat. Yeah, he does. that Like, he talks like that. Which he said in that interview, he they were trying to workshop a way to make him sound like his voice was going out. Because that was, like, his whole thing. He was freaking out. His voice was going out and stuff like that. Yeah. So that's why that happened.
00:14:46
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Right, yeah. Like, his voice is going away. His voice is going away. it made him sound like a goat. Yeah. and like He can't break the end. Yeah, he's a goat. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. I saw... a a clip that show after midnight, it had, uh, him and Devin, uh, both of their actors were on and I saw just one clip of it. is He was like something where it was like, it was like a bit they do on there where it's like,
00:15:13
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say something normal and then there's like an anxiety cam that you say how you really feel and it was like i love all of your uh severance uh severance theories and stuff and he turns to that when it's like looks different and stuff and he's like and he's like he's like you think you're freaking out i'm freaking out i have but he's like i are have an idea what's going on i have no more than all of you and i still have to figure out what's going on and i have my own theories but i'm not allowed to talk about them yeah and like he's like because then it It'll be confirmed. People will freak out, but I could be wrong. i like People will zoom in on their facial movements. Exactly. like You went on this. like it was It was very funny. and I was like, oh, yeah. I guess like they really the actors probably don't know like right a lot of stuff until they...
00:15:56
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Get the script. Yeah. And like, you know, cause I'm, I'm positive the way that the show is structured and the storytelling is just so well done that there's no way that, uh, Ben Stiller and the head writer, I'm sorry, i can't remember your name. Um, I'm sure they, they know where it's going and how everything ends and stuff, but they're like, but it's good to like couch that.
00:16:16
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No, for sure. Like the actors. Well, it reminds me of like, I remember that viral clip that was like, um, the Game of Thrones cast like reading the script of the finale. or Oh, yeah. it's like They didn't know about it. Yeah, the table reading. They're reading the cast, staff yeah. And they're all like... Mm-hmm. Yeah. like Or that one of... a Shit sucks. I think it's the series when he just gets ah when he just gets like wiped out. like That scene where he like throws his glasses down and is just like rubbing his head and stuff. And like everybody's just kind of looking at him like... like o Sorry, buddy. This is like...
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Like, yeah, he could die and it would work, but like, this is kind of a really shitty way to do it. Like, to be honest. i was like, I thought I was going to be the king of the North. um Oh God. Okay. So Rickon's a goat confirmed confirmed. Oh, was speaking of Rickon real quick.
00:17:08
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Uh, where the fuck has been? no idea. like last, like, two or three episodes. Well, the last thing from my recollection was him talking about how he's gonna write this book. Yeah, he,
Rickon's Absence: Significance and Theories
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that's the last last time last time we see Natalie, too. It's them two talking about, like, um, or no, like, well, that's the last time we see Natalie is when she... First is over at their house and being like, oh, yeah, like the innies really responded to it. We want to write want you to like pay you a bunch of money to write one that's like even more specific to Lumen and like being an innie and stuff because it really like opened a lot of their eyes and they're really passionate about it.
00:17:42
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And he's like, yeah, it's a great idea. And then Natalie's gone. and But then we see the last time we see Rick in, which is like the next episode or two. He's a like reading a bit of it to Devin. And she's like, it just kind of seems like you're really just saying the opposite of everything else you said.
00:17:59
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And he's like, well, this is what they want. And like, like maybe this is a better way of saying one. And like they're like kind of like arguing about it. but She's like kind of not vibing on it. And then he's just gone. that's it And he's just fucking gone, dude.
00:18:10
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New theory, he was the goat that they were going to kill. Yeah, dude. That's why he was there, dude. That's why he had so much personality. Yeah, yeah. um I don't know. i just I've also been seeing that Rickon is Drummond's brother.
00:18:24
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Rickon is Drummond's brother. Because they look pretty similar. do have some similarities. Yeah, I can see that. His evil twin. Yeah, like his evil twin. Or like his like less... Like his like...
00:18:37
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outie, like, just to put it in terms of the show, like, Drummond's, like, obviously they're two different people, but, like, he's, like, the in-y version of like, these two brothers, because he's the one that's, like, always there working inside stuff, and then Rickon goes out into the world and it's like a seemingly has nothing affiliated with it but he's actually secretly like yeah implementing these ideas and stuff like i don't know could be something there i just want to know where the fuck my man rickin was i know i saw a few people talking about that funny he's so fucking funny i saw a few people being like being like don't give a shit about this i don't give a shit about that yeah yeah yeah where the fuck is rickin because like That's super fucking weird that he's just gone out. you know I mean, they kind of did the same thing with Cobell, but she came back eventually. She came back, had a whole episode, huge lore drop, like massive lore.
00:19:30
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I don't know. It's insane. Well, and going back to when she finds the blueprints or whatever that she wrote, the whole time I was watching it, I'm like, This bitch is going to take it and throw it in the fire. Like, quick get away from the fire. And then, of course, she tries it. And I'm like, I swear, if this goes in the fire, I'm going to lose my mind. i was...
00:19:51
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screaming yeah at the tv dude like why would you give this to your fucking crazy aunt who is like all about kira more than you ever could be right next to just an open flame just a fucking fireplace and stuff she's just like oh yeah this really fucking interesting yeah oopsies like like come on girl yeah Thankfully, she saved it.
00:20:13
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And I'm curious to see where that goes in season three, which I did see ah big, like, cast interview thing where um ah Ben Stiller confirmed it shouldn't take three years for season three to come out. Thank fucking God. It'll take, like, two years and 360 days. Exactly. But, hey, not three years. yeah So we'll take it. yeah um Yeah. It's just, like, I don't know.
Audience Theories vs. Show Events
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Like, that stuff with Cobell really... Like, I don't know. It's not that... it Like, it added a lot of depth to her in a way that I didn't think we were going to get. For sure. You know, from that character.
00:20:49
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um Which I love. You know, I think it was a good call and I think it works really well. Yeah. But um it was just... i i i think after the I forget which episode it was after. Maybe it it might have been the Gemma episode.
00:21:05
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I was like, I think I messaged you and Cam in our Waffle Party group message and was like, I'm just going to stop trying to guess anything about this show because I'm just never going to get it right. Yeah. like Just never going to get it right. Which I started to realize as the season went on that...
00:21:22
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I was getting a little bit of what I'd like to call the Game of Thrones effect. Yeah. To where, like... I think Game of Thrones, obviously. we're This is turning into a Game of Thrones episode. Game of Thrones, obviously, like ended not how people wanted. No, including the cast. And gets notoriously totally dunked on for being so bad. Yes.
00:21:40
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I kind of have a theory that, you know, maybe it it It wasn't the best ending, but it wasn't the worst. But the reason why everyone says it's the worst is because there were so many good theories on where it should go. Right.
00:21:53
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So when the show actually ended and didn't live up to those theories, right it got an even worse thing. It's hard to... like theorize so hard and like you know like you know do what we do. Look at like Reddit and TikTok. It's fine. I'm going to do it, obviously. but like It's hard when you're like looking at all that stuff and like people are like coming up with really compelling things and like it doesn't happen.
00:22:17
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and It's like A huge bummer. I will say, though, I think that the reason Game of Thrones didn't land is because it wasn't that bad things happened. It's that they weren't... It wasn't well done and fleshed out enough. Yeah, they weren't ready it. Because they rushed it. The guy, the D&D, as they're now, you know, like the showrunners, like, they rushed because they just wanted to be done with it so they could move on to their fucking Star Wars trilogy they got signed up. And then fucking lost because they...
00:22:47
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HBO is like all the money and all the time in the world. We'll do two more seasons, and full 10 episodes. And they're like, no, we can wrap it up in seven episodes. Yeah. Like Danny going mad, totally love.
00:22:59
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Would have been awesome. But it was like, felt way too rushed. It felt it was 30 minutes long. Yeah, it like 30 minutes. And now she's just completely insane. And it's like, but if you look back, you can see she does some pretty fucked up stuff. Yeah. But like the actual choice to become...
00:23:13
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Like the mad queen needs to not be a day, yeah you know, like in stuff like that. So, and I don't think they'll do that with this. No, I don't think they, I don't think any show can ever do that again. Ridiculed as much as I love this show.
00:23:28
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They got to finish it out this next season. You think three and done? I think three and done just because you run the risk of... I was originally thinking that this was season. You thought this might have been the end. And I was starting to get worried because I'm like, you got a lot to wrap up. You got a lot to wrap But I think one season is enough to wrap everything up. Yeah.
00:23:48
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ah They could. They very easily could. yeah um Again, as someone who has officially decided to stop planning for what's going to happen and expecting stuff.
00:24:00
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I'm still going to read people's theories and like watch people's theories and stuff. But um I'm like, I'm just not going to get attached to any anymore and stuff. I feel like you could wrap all of it up, but there's, there's a way we get at least two more seasons out of it. And I think it would be, and I don't think it would like i could fall flat or like be like,
00:24:21
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like drag on too long. Like maybe a season of answers and then a season of them using those answers to like fight Lumen and like destroy Lumen or something along those lines. yeah. But like, i mean, you don't want to do, you don't want to do like in ah and my favorite sitcom community, but there's a whole episode where they, it's very funny, they, ah what is it?
Narrative Risks: Comparing to 'Community'
00:24:46
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Repilot is what it's called. Yeah.
00:24:49
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Where they kind of like they like come back and like kind of start over. Right. And stuff. And ah the entire it's funny when community does it because they know they're doing it's a very self-aware show. And like Abed, the one who's like knows they're in a show kind of a character.
00:25:05
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uses Scrubs as an example. He was like, last year's reasons of Scrubs, dude. Zach Braff's only in it for the first two episodes and like they repilot and stuff and it's just not as good and they're like watching an episode at the end of that episode where they talk.
00:25:17
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he's like, see? He's like, see? And they're like, yeah, like, this ain't good. So like there is, like, I wouldn't want them to like repilot, you know what I mean? Like, I think it's like we have our story, like taking down Lumen is the story, yeah you know?
00:25:30
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And so like if they can successfully do that, uh in like one season that's fine you know what i mean but like i'd love two so two more seasons because i feel like there's a lot of like uh things you could still explore like um i don't know like just i love heli so much and i hate helena yeah so much and i'm like we get two more seasons of that dynamic for sure and then like well then it's the whole thing about like is Is she pregnant?
00:26:01
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Is that the plan? Yeah. You know, because with the title sequence, with the little baby Kier crawling across, right like, is that the fucking plan? To get him to finish Cold Harbor, which is, um you know, which we'll talk a little bit more about what, called like, the most important thing they've ever been able to do, like, their biggest thing that they're, like, most excited to change the world with and stuff. He does that, so he's the one that deserves the honor of of, like, impregnating, like, making the next Egan that they can yeah put, like, all you know, maybe all of the consciousness of all the other past Land the finished consciousness. And, like, yeah, like like like like, he obviously, like, I don't know, it seemed...
00:26:50
Speaker
Like, I don't think it was just Helena was like, I'm get it before Heli does, because they obviously hate each other. yeah I think there's some nefarious shit behind it as well. For sure.
00:27:01
Speaker
And stuff. And so, like, that's a whole fucking thing. Yeah. um I don't know. Well, and... Well, I have a theory on that as well, but I'll save it. I'll save it towards the end because it is relevant to the final.
00:27:16
Speaker
Your final magnum opus. Yeah. Well, and the magnum opus, but yeah, the final scene was brutal. God, the final scene was very rough. You did just remind me, though, that was the other part of the goat theory. was that when they show his name, the actor's name, on the screen in the intro credits, a human turns into a goat. Yes, that's right. I'm like, come on, guys. It was like, come on. Come the fuck on. You've got to stop.
00:27:42
Speaker
That's so right. Yes, that's right. That's right. yeah But also, speaking of theories, um I feel like it does need addressing the fact that I gave my magnum opus theory of... uh, food scarcity. And then the next episode, the next fucking episode is just full of food. Mark eats so much Chinese food. There's the, uh, the melon party. It's just a whole feast. It's just like, Oh my gosh. That Irv dinner. I was watching that like, come on,
00:28:11
Speaker
But again, we were talking, we were like, no, no, no, no. But like, but like maybe we're coping. Yeah. It was definitely heavy copium, but it was like, maybe like, you know, their real, their house looks nicer than all the other houses. They're super rich. They can afford to do it. Cause you know, they're hard in the paint and lumen and stuff. So they're super wealthy. And then like, yeah, Mark was like splurging. Helena showed up at this like,
00:28:33
Speaker
like seemingly like no-name little chinese restaurant and stuff and she's obviously rich why would she go there because she went up and she was like and she was like i'm gonna fucking see yeah mark's like cool like which was very fucking awesome yeah um love that from mark um but yeah so i don't know jury's still out on the food thing and yeah that yeah my It could be. All I know is that this is the worst show of all time if it's not Food Scared. I just don't know how I'm going to fucking drag this show through the mud if this theory is not correct. It's going to be ass. Just like Game of Thrones was. Exactly like Game of Thrones. Exactly.
00:29:12
Speaker
um Oh my god. ah But let's let let we should talk.
00:29:19
Speaker
i so I'm still not convinced about Burt, dude. He did a very nice thing. He got Irv out of there. Yeah. Put him on a train, got him out of there. you know Seemingly might you know mail him all of his shit or whatever, but he was like, you and Radar need to fucking get.
00:29:36
Speaker
Well, and my big question of him is, is is that even his Audi? Or is he just like full blown? There's no any and no out. yeah Exactly. Well, that's the thing, dude. Cause like, it's awesome. Like cute edits that were like, you know, like love transcends severance and stuff. Like no matter what he's like, there was always a vibe with Jim and Mark and stuff. And then Bert, um, Bert, once, uh, Irv showed up to his house and stuff, he was like, he like sought him out and
Burt's True Intentions: Sincerity or Deception?
00:30:05
Speaker
everything. And then he like sends him on his way. He's like, you gotta get the fuck out of here. I got Bob buy you a ticket.
00:30:10
Speaker
go yeah just get so like you know i think there is something to that and i think that like that might be like part of the crux of the show which by the last uh last episode last scene was very very frustrating um ah which we'll get to but um i just think bert i don't know i was very much like we hate bert right like all my me and my homies hate bert yeah but No, last time we see him in Irv, he's being very, very sweet and like sends him on his merry little way. Well, and I saw a post that almost brought me to tears talking about their little moment in the um inside of the severed floor when they're in the garden and they're like wanting to kiss and he's like, I'm not ready yet. But then when he's leaving on the train, he's like, I'm ready. yes
00:30:58
Speaker
And he's not. And it's just, oh, man. Yeah, exactly. That's why it's like, like I don't want Bert. Like, I want... I don't want him to be evil, but I just can't trust him. Yeah. I just can't trust him, dude.
00:31:09
Speaker
He's literally sitting in front of a fireplace talking about heaven and hell. Well, and he's clearly like the guy who takes, takes the trash out. Yeah, exactly, dude. Like a whole fucking thing. Um,
00:31:22
Speaker
Speaking of sitting in front of a fireplace, I did think that was an interesting place for when they go to the birthing cabins. So yeah Mark and Mark S. can have a conversation. a cool scene. Which was in so fucking cool.
00:31:34
Speaker
The coolest way they could have done that. Yeah. um Just like filmmaking wise, like so fucking awesome. um Their whole back and forth. ah But ah Mark S. is anyone. He's like for when he starts to get mad and like get like...
00:31:50
Speaker
start yelling at, uh, Audi Mark. Um, he's like sitting in front of the fireplace. Like Bert was, right. He's like, fuck you. Fuck her. Fuck everybody. don't give a shit. yeah Like you're going fucking kill me. Well, it makes sense because like Audi Mark was kind of treating him like a, like a newborn baby almost. yeah Like the way he was talking to him was very like infantile. And yeah, but I mean, but I did see some people say, and I think I agree, like kind of think going back and like thinking about it.
00:32:19
Speaker
Um, Andy Mark was kind was kind of acting like a baby and stuff. The way he storms out to with Cobell, like, and stuff, it has a very, like like, I hate you, like, slam the door, like, energy to it. Like, rebellious teenager, yeah. Yeah, like, there's there's a little bit of that energy, because, I mean, like, obviously he's going to be super curious that they're talking and stuff, have a bunch of questions about, like, everything and stuff, you know, like, like you know, like a toddler, why, why, why, like, what, what, was like, sure, and stuff, but, like, once he starts to get mad, there is, like, a little bit of, like, a teenage angst,
00:32:50
Speaker
kind of a yeah energy to it and stuff which i don't think is like wrong of him no but i think it's something worth like noting and yeah because like but he does the thing man outie mark he mispronounces uh i know he calls her uh helene or something come on man how do you mess that up like come on dude and that's what and you just get so which again very teenage teenage like her name talking about girl dude Like, what the fuck, dude? Like, yeah. It's Leviosa. Exactly. Very, very like, okay, pronunciation yeah like is going to ruin this entire plan. But I i do understand it because it it kind of ah went to show, like, it kind of proved to any mark that, like,
00:33:33
Speaker
they the outies and the other people don't really view them as like having any yeah would human emotions or feelings or stuff like they're just like not even people basically so i think was kind of like the whole point of this season pretty much yeah i think probably the show is just showing yeah well that's what i was just kind of like i was kind of bummed in that scene because i got that feeling from audi mark 2 yeah that like he was like Yeah, like, you know, like, you're not, you know, like, like your life doesn't really matter. Like, and stuff, like, and you need to help me save Gemma because that's what matters and all this any stuff is irrelevant.
00:34:11
Speaker
And stuff, like... And then lying to him, too, about... Yeah. How we're going to live this perfect world outside where we both share the time. and <unk>ll be Totally fine. It's... yeah She's gotten better at it.
00:34:23
Speaker
Yeah. that She's gotten better, you know, apparently. So, like, I i don't know. I mean, having Cobell to help with the reintegration, like, you know, maybe it could really work and it yeah could be a thing.
00:34:37
Speaker
but But that's the thing. There's no way that... ah any mark could be with heli like that's there's just no way i mean unless well now because jim's in the picture now i was gonna say apparently helena's like all about outing mark yeah she's all about mark regardless yeah one way or another dude she's into him um yeah i don't what was that what was that thing i think ah you or cam said it was like that message like like a like a meme where was like, it was like, I think I'm going to like off myself or whatever. And it was like, Oh no, wait, let me hit first. that yeah
00:35:16
Speaker
That's, uh, helly saying that to Mark, Helena saying that to Mark, like, wait, let me hit first. Cause like, she's like, I don't give shit. Like saying that to any Mark, kind of they that was fucking hilarious and very accurate. Um, and, uh, that whole dynamic is just so strange. It's so fucking weird, dude. yeah It's so fucking weird. I just don't, I don't know. Um,
00:35:38
Speaker
Trying to think of anything else that's like, before we get into wild speculation about the future yeah and stuff. Because I mean, like, I feel like, ah oh, Milch, Milch, dude.
00:35:51
Speaker
Fucking, what is it? Devour, ah devour feculence? Is that what it is? Yeah. yeah So good. It means eat shit. yep. I mean, he murdered it this season. He was, and he's, we're dead. God, if he doesn't get award for this. He's going to be, like, the next... I don't know. The first name that comes to mind is, like, Pedro Pascal to where he just blows up. He's so talented. And, like, I saw another thing talking about how the dance party in season one was just all, like...
00:36:22
Speaker
yeah it really just said like it said just like defiant jazz dance party like that was the only direction and stuff and he was just like right he just fucking throws down dude and every everybody else does exactly what they need to do in that moment too like right like any mark dancing so weird irv just kind of nodding his head and snapping his fingers yeah obviously dylan's got a whole thing where he's pissed he's not doing anything like it was oh that scene's so perfect well and um when ah mark finishes cold harbor it's that whole him bringing out the statue and everything like that was just so funny oh yeah perfect and then all the yeah the fucking uh marching band arch man like thing was so fucking cool um
00:37:09
Speaker
and uh and something interesting i saw tiktok on tiktok i'm sorry i don't remember who it was uh but she was like she was like that's like like a like a historical black college like b hbcu kind of like marching band vibe when it was the same colors as his high school marching band yeah which exactly yeah which is awesome yeah but like it was like him like the way he was like you know like leading it and everything. Like, like, like that she's like, that is the same energy that like comes from that and stuff. And it's like, so like, and she was like talking about it, like in terms of the show, like it's like, so he's like, he's bringing in like, cause like, as far as we know, he's not severed, you know, like, and like, he's just,
00:37:49
Speaker
grew up and then got a job there and like just did a good job and everything so like it adds to the whole thing of like oh don't use so many big words and stuff and like that whole thing where it's like well he's being allowed to do a little bit of his culture in there and stuff and like and so on the one hand it's like it's like that's cool but also like i get why they like you know we're like okay this is the time we have a distraction we can go like to enact our plan and stuff and lock him in the fucking bathroom yeah and stuff um and everything but i thought that was a cool thing that that uh that person on tiktok was talking about and and everything i was like that's cool uh because like yeah because he fucking kills it in that scene dude it's so fucking good
00:38:28
Speaker
Even the little stand-up routine with the statue. So perfect. What's interesting about that, too, somebody pointed out that I like didn't really think about but totally makes sense.
00:38:39
Speaker
when they um When they're doing like the ah marching band thing and they like flip up the like boards and it has Mark's face on it. yeah like That's a like bird's eye view like straight down shot.
00:38:52
Speaker
No one can see that. They they broke the fourth wall. Oh. Because, like, nobody there would have been able to see that. Yeah. Because those ceilings are so low. And so, like, that was for us. That solely for yeah. Which really it's a really weird place to break the fourth wall. You know what I mean? like like I don't think they like speculated on it too much. or if they did, I don't remember exactly what they like what it meant and stuff, but that's a really weird time. This is how we're going to break the fourth wall.
00:39:21
Speaker
Very quick and subtle, because like there's literally it's really impossible for anybody in that room to see that. right Unless there's like a camera on the ceiling, which I mean, there could be cameras everywhere,
Marching Band Scene: Breaking the Fourth Wall?
00:39:31
Speaker
obviously. yeah and it was like That's like a like to show how good that department is doing you know because they're they're a whole department that's like meant to do this like kind of a thing and stuff like so it could be that it could be as simple as that but it still breaks the fourth wall on the way i don't know it's fucking weird the show's fucking wild it's pretty wild um there's definitely a lot of things like that that's just and i think that's partially why so many people have theories is because there's so many things that's like but why yeah so many subtle things like i literally like i don't like how the fuck did i not
00:40:04
Speaker
catch that yeah like i'm just amazed by how fucking dope the whole scene was i didn't like be like wait stop thing right like theorize you know um but and then i think only the last thing that i want to talk about before we get to your couple of theory things um and the last scene uh dylan oh First of all, to transition from Milchak to Dylan, when he gets in the thing, and he's like, here you go, here's the thing, and he just turns them, because it's bad
Dylan's Defiance and Family Issues
00:40:40
Speaker
news. The second I saw that, immediately tried to go on my phone to pull up the thing and screen record it to make a GIF, because I'm like, this is the perfect GIF. It's so good. It's so good. But Apple has this thing built into where you can't screen record it. Yeah, a lot of things do that. Should have thought about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:40:57
Speaker
Luckily, someone else made it. i don't know how, but... um Bless him. My God. I mean, the memes from that... but My favorite is the doctor. His x-ray is totally safe. Running out of the room. It's so funny. because like It makes sense it because like the last time Milchak directly gave Dylan bad news...
00:41:16
Speaker
defiant jazz he attacks him you know like it's up so he's like he's probably just like i gotta get the fuck out of this room yeah and i can't go get ready for that's what i was thinking i was like he's so amped he's got he's got so many things going on but also yeah it's like it's like combination but it's just it's just so funny to watch yeah he's just like here you go fucking pulse quick turn run that's so funny but yeah that's all to say uh the bad news is that's uh dylan's uh uh Audi being like, no, you're not quitting. Yeah. Like, we're not quitting. Because after, um with Gretchen, which, when he's like begging for his little ring, which is so cute, but he's like, GRETCHEN! Yeah. but Well, and he kind of, if I recall, put it in a way that's like, listen, like, If you really do want to, yeah you can. But I think writing that letter helped like show like we're kind of the same dude here. yeah like Because like the wording and like all the fucks in it and everything like that yeah was so...
00:42:14
Speaker
um like any any him um but that i mean his whole when when she left and it's just brutal it's so brutal they pulled on the heartstrings like a ton oh yeah dude there was a lot more as we got like deeper into these characters and finally got to like know that not only know the outies better which like We got to know the Audis better, which we didn't get to know any except for Mark in the first season, really.
00:42:41
Speaker
um We got a lot more Audis from all of them and like what they're like and stuff, but like the Innies are going through so much this season, um which, of course, makes total sense and like is exactly what should happen in terms of the storytelling, I think, and everything, but...
00:42:58
Speaker
Yeah, Dylan, dude. it just like But then he comes back from that news, and, like, Helly is in the middle of, like, trying to, like, keep him locked up, and then he just comes rushing in with the fucking vending machine. yeah And he's like, let's fucking go. He's like, yeah, fuck this place, fuck everything. Yeah. like ah and then that all red color because the alarm's going wrong he's like fuck you mr milch i mean just incredible which he said last that last uh season finale too yeah like yeah so now he's gotten to be like fuck you yeah i think i remember texting you guys in the chat saying like i think everyone in the show is like reaching their boiling point and this finale is gonna be crazy yeah And I think that's kind of showing it, the whole like pushing and just being so... Everyone was just so angry in that last bit.
00:43:43
Speaker
So good. It was so good. I just like... I don't know. What do we think about... um when mark is finishing cold harbor before the dope band comes out and milkshake does his fucking thing and earns like a fifth award that he deserves that actor deserves um what do we think like they're mark and heli's like conversation they're like a little back and forth while he's like kind of finish finishing up and she's like i'm her
00:44:15
Speaker
Like, when he's like, I need to do this thing to save Gemma, and, like, this is the plan, but also I don't want to not exist anymore. I want to be with you.
00:44:26
Speaker
Like, I want to live with you and stuff. I don't forget. I forget exactly what he says, how he phrases it, but, like, and she says, like, I'm her to him, and he kind of, like, yeah finishes the file and stuff. And, like, I've seen some people being, like, that's...
00:44:42
Speaker
Helena andna yeah saying that, but I've also seen, and I think, I don't know, because it's like, it also could be that, um, that's, uh, her saying like, like Heli saying, I'm,
00:44:58
Speaker
i'm all like i am jimma i am to yeah audi mark so like you need you should do this kind of a thing right like like it could be like a motivational thing because like i'm pretty sure like like that's kind of the end of the conversation he finishes the file then yeah shit pops off and stuff so i'm i um yeah i i don't know about that but i i do feel like that last convo helped make his decision in the end yeah yeah Just because it really solidified, like, pushed forward the feeling of, like, this is not fair. Like,
Mark's Decision-Making and Cold Harbor
00:45:30
Speaker
we are own people. Mm-hmm.
00:45:34
Speaker
So, yeah, I mean, that that whole final bit in the hallway was just, like, it borderline painful to watch. It was excruciating to watch. Yeah.
00:45:45
Speaker
Because, like, okay, let's let's... I want to go back and kind of go through this series of events until we get to the final thing. We're going to talk about when the dude erupts in blood. Exactly. That's where we' we're going to start. so market mark Any Mark is trying to get into the exports hall and stuff.
00:46:07
Speaker
Drummond comes out. They fucking start fighting. Fucking Brianna Tarth comes in with the fucking one-shot gun thing that they were going use to kill the goat. Everything's good. She leaves with the goat. She's happy. He's got the thing.
00:46:20
Speaker
And then they're going down the elevator. Yeah. i have not...
00:46:27
Speaker
I don't know if there's a term for it, like, gasp screamed. Yeah. Because it was like, screamed, because I was like, holy shit, this happening, and gasped like a pure, like, clutching my pearls, like, right like moment, like, when he goes, he's got his name, he's like, here's what's gonna happen, and then he starts to change, and during that he tenses up, just pops him. Blast this dude. And it was the, one of the most, like,
00:46:54
Speaker
realistic someone just got shot in the neck yeah like the blood just like been pouring out so well done in terms of that as a horror fan like lots of gory things and this things that i like to watch and stuff this was wild maybe because it was so out of place for a show like this i don't know but like it just hit so well in a way that i was i was like i didn't even think it like i was like yeah i was like i was like It happened, and I was like, of course he would. Of course this would happen. Yeah, well, and I was so locked in, i didn't even think about the fact that he would switch in the elevator. i didn't either. I didn't either. I didn't think, I wasn't thinking about anything. was just like, okay, the plan's working. Like, he's got him. Let's do this. He's gonna be able to be like, yeah, like, no, we if somebody tries to stop him and stuff, I was like, okay, let's go, let's go, let's go get Jimma. And then the fucking ding.
00:47:43
Speaker
then just. Yeah. Crazy. So, wow. And then when he just, like, he falls over and then he just, like... The door closing and opening. Yeah. So, which is very good for them when they can get out and stuff.
00:47:57
Speaker
But, um, so he goes and he finds Gemma in Cold Harbor. Mm-hmm. So I wasn't... We weren't... We, like, the collective we, we weren't wrong...
00:48:11
Speaker
Where it was like, to see if we can erase intense trauma. Yeah. It wasn't... Because the whole fucking... The mislead, the misdirect with the would you rather drown or suffocate. Right. And stuff. But it was... Bill... Disassemble...
00:48:27
Speaker
the fucking crib that you never got to build because you had a miscarriage she's like okay yeah it was in and does it like when it was like we did it this is what cold harbors are about we can remove people's trauma with severance when i think it was also to like show fully that integration is like a full split, which is another reason why I think they had Gemma working as like the, like closely with Mark in season one was to kind of like, Oh yeah.
00:49:01
Speaker
Test that a little bit leading up, but they needed like ah a real trauma that would bring those memories back. Yeah. Well, that's why they, um, that's why they had, um, what's it called? They had a co-bell, uh, so intensely watching his wellness session yeah and the candle,
00:49:18
Speaker
Yeah. Like the Kate with the candle. like It's like it's like her candle or a candle that she like made or one of the mayors and like they lit that there and stuff. And she's like intensely watching like the fuck is happening. Like what's good. are there Is one of them going to go to like and he's and he's being reminded about what his Audi is like. Right.
00:49:36
Speaker
So it's like it's a whole fucking thing. And it's like, yeah, OK, then because she's going dentist. She's going to the dentist in one of them. She's doing something she fucking hates, which is writing the cards and stuff with her off hand yeah and everything. So like it's painful and like it sucks. Like, and she hates doing it and stuff. So they're like slowly building. So like that being what Cold Harbor is, is,
00:49:58
Speaker
crazy and why it's why they picked jimma why they got her like because obviously the the fertility clinic lumen just sent the little yeah water drop blood drop whatever you want to call it like symbol is there it's obviously a lumen thing um they sent her those cards remember those cards in season one with the guy doing the like Tai Chi type thing. and so Yeah. She gets that. They like send those out to people and like she was responsive to it because she was struggling with her trauma. Obviously that clinic would know that she had a miscarriage. Yeah. It's a fertility clinic and stuff. So like they're like cool. This is. So now the question. My biggest question is like so how did she get.
00:50:39
Speaker
trapped in there for the past two years yeah while they worked on this like did they purposely fake the thing did they have a guy on the inside like kidnapper or yeah it's like it's like it seems like willingly it seems like it's either she it was willing or they created a scenario yeah and stuff but it's hard to think that they created it it's weird because mark was we know that mark was there when the car crash happened right we know that he
Gemma's Involvement in Cold Harbor
00:51:04
Speaker
came and like saw the bodies Well, i because I remember there was a theory that I had seen a dude talk about where he's like, I think Mark was drunk. And I saw that. and was the one that Yeah. Because he was drinking so much. drinking so Yeah, he was drinking and driving. And that's what caused. And instead of like stopping drinking, he spiraled even further into it and stuff. So like, so which implies that. So. That means we know that he was there in some fashion when the car would happen.
00:51:30
Speaker
And obviously he's like, oh, I identified her completely burnt body. Come on, bro. Come on. Come on. Come on. We've been trying that since the fucking 1700s, bro. Like, come on. You can't confirm that shit. And, oh, they also have...
00:51:42
Speaker
All this dental stuff. All the dental stuff, they could switch dental records, pay somebody off. Easy. So that's one of my biggest questions is like, how did she get there? Right. And stuff. But I was kind of thinking maybe they promised her something in the fertility center.
00:51:56
Speaker
Because like, I do think that she was there willingly because... Mm-hmm. And maybe it's because she's there for so long. She's relatively calm when she's in the thing. And it's kind of like, oh, I get to i get to see Mark soon or like I get to leave soon. like it yeah It sounds like she went in there thinking that something was going to happen as long as she did these trials. I feel like the only thing it could have been was if she successfully if she does this and goes through this. Yeah.
00:52:21
Speaker
you know We know now that they were going kill her. yeah Once they got it done, they were just going Because they can't really... It seems like it was like, we'll be we'll help you have a baby. We'll get you a baby. Pure you and Mark baby. It's my biggest question. is we So we know that the goal is to like remove these traumas.
00:52:40
Speaker
But... like then what if they were just gonna kill her it's like can they extract something in her brain to where then they can do that to anyone and they just won't have drama or like what's they know what's the purpose so here's a big part of it um so that means so they had her And they had Mark working on her because the scary numbers he would have been able to see better than anybody.
00:53:10
Speaker
Right. Because they were so close, obviously. Yeah. It's like, because, uh, Just real quick. the Did you see all the thirst traps from the Gemma episode of the... Alright, now turn around and bend over when he was going to give her the shot. Oh, yeah. like yeah like These stitches where women were just like... like like like Just like like being gagged by it.
00:53:34
Speaker
So funny. And hey, I'm right there with you. That was mean Young Mark, like when they like first meet, when they're donating blood, was like... Who? Yeah. Who is this man?
00:53:47
Speaker
Nuts. So smooth with her, too. so So, also, did you see that LA Times photo shoot? Uh-uh. So, I think it was LA Times photo shoot. It's Adam Scott, Britt Lower, and... it's a it's adam scott britt lower and lichen lichen whatever her name is jimma hellion uh uh mark mark um just we'll look at it after ultimate threesome um um it's if you're not by you might be by the time you're done take a look it's uh it's insane um it's and they're all just so gorgeous literally like oh and then of course you've you've heard the the song right the song
00:54:27
Speaker
mark is hot heli's hot jim is hot dylan's hot herb is hot they're all so hot yeah that one tiktok i mean there's literally i would say everyone but um god why am i blanking on his name Drummond. Drummond. Yeah. um Yeah. I mean, they're kind of all hot. Everybody is extremely attractive except for maybe Drummond. No offense. I saw a post that was hot take.
00:54:55
Speaker
Cobill's pretty hot. And someone was like, you mean this like sex icon from the 80s? Oh, wow.
Digression: Patricia Arquette's Appeal
00:55:02
Speaker
Patricia Arquette is hot. Hot take. Water is wet.
00:55:06
Speaker
yeah Hear me out. Patricia Arquette is hot. Yeah. Wow. The comments were just dogging on this dude. Like, come on, brother. That's insane. Yeah. yeah That's insane.
00:55:18
Speaker
Very far digression. Yeah. I'm trying to circle back to. Sorry, I was thinking about how hot they are. I forgot.
00:55:29
Speaker
um's not that It's not just about that here. We're talking about important things. um They're going to kill her. Mark was working on her. Because he would know her best and stuff. And it seems like they'll be able to like emulate that kind of thing. like Once they know that it can be done, they can do it to anybody with enough time.
00:55:49
Speaker
right So who the fuck or what the fuck... What are the other ones working on? They've got to be working on other people. They have to be on other people. So I did see something that was um talking about how there was three total doors down there of like where she comes out to go to whatever room she's working on. Yeah, she has like her little home. yeah You talk about Gemma, right? Yeah, Gemma. She has like her little like where she stays. Yeah, when she comes out of that door, there's two other doors. Yeah.
00:56:17
Speaker
by and Which would kind of make sense that. That like. Helly's not really working on anyone. Yeah. She's not doing shit. She's kind of just a plant. Yeah. Like. And if The other two. She's working on something super unimportant. But they're like. Right. Maybe she'll make some progress on this. That's fine. Yeah.
00:56:31
Speaker
Or just pick up where Petey left off. Right. And liket matter if it happens. Yeah. But the other two could be working on someone else. Yeah, but like, but like so, but there, it was all, it's always been, you know, Cold Harbor, like, Mark S is so close, like, and stuff, like like, are they working on the same thing, and
Cold Harbor's Purpose: Ethical Implications
00:56:46
Speaker
Mark's just like, but, this well no, see, I was gonna say, I was gonna say, like, but Mark S is the closest, because he's the best refiner, but...
00:56:54
Speaker
seems like dylan's the best dylan was definitely season one like yeah he got he got the waffle party twice yeah like you know and no else has done that you know like no one's like achieved like their numbers so well so like dylan's the best one so like what is it about so many is it because is it because it's jimma Yeah, well, so the rest of them could just be environment setters for Mark's Annie.
00:57:18
Speaker
Yeah. So that he's not just, like, going insane. it's just one person just doing one thing. Like, yeah, you get some, like, a little bit of, like, an office, like, space. Yeah. Like, an office environment and kind of a thing. It could be. Yeah. It could be. And they're just, like, it's Lumen, so they have all the money in the world, so they can just, like, they can pay all of these people well enough to, like, keep coming back. Right. You know? Like...
00:57:39
Speaker
I don't know. I think it's wild. Yeah. um I think it's time. So then they, so Mark shows up. She's like, I don't know about this dude. And he's like, please just come out, come out here.
00:57:51
Speaker
Just come out of the hallway. They, they, he's covered in blood. Yeah. They just hardcore make out. And I was fine with that. Yeah. Because I was so happy to see them. Yeah. See each other and make. i mean, that was incredible. When she like walks out the door and turns back, it's incredible. But so I do think him being covered in blood is super important because it's like he broke, he broke the, the sever severness, what they were trying to avoid.
00:58:18
Speaker
And he did it while like, being the most terrifying random stranger yeah like ever come up to you ever. like Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Right. Like she she was able to, again, love could transcend. Right. Like, like you can get rid of people's trauma, but love, you might not be able to, no matter what kind of a thing, which,
00:58:36
Speaker
That is kind of the whole point of this show. This might be the best show that's ever been made because that's so fucking beautiful. I think that's a great point. He's covered in blood. Complete stranger to her in this moment. She's never seen another human being at this point because she's just severed for the first time. At this point, she walks in alone. She hears the thing and she's like, okay.
00:59:01
Speaker
He's here to hurt you. He's here to hurt you. Look at him. Like, ugh, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. And she still willingly goes with them. Right. Like, no problem. Yeah. So beautiful, so amazing. And then, but it is funny when they, like, they you know, they run away and, like, they get to the elevator, push Drummond's fucking dead body of the way. yeah And there's hardcore making down the elevator again, and then ding!
00:59:23
Speaker
Now they're both, now it's Miss Casey and Mark. Which again, I know was not even putting two and two together that that was going to happen. know I completely forgot too. was like, they've done it and was like, there's so many more steps. than Yeah. I was like, they're out. they're like, they're kind of like, and she goes again, acting is insane. She goes, she goes straight.
00:59:43
Speaker
what's happening marcus like just full jimma or full miss casey again and he's but he's like he's like okay like he has the kind of process he's like this is my audi's wife so that's why we're making it okay he's like okay trust me we gotta to go he's like he's like kind of like because he's probably also like i mean you know there's no way marcus wasn't like damn miss casey fine yeah like you know like i actually yeah like but um so So, yeah, they they run around. They do their thing. They run. They get to the fucking hallway, the door, the staircase, the fucking staircase. Anybody who doesn't know what's happening right now, Justin and Austin in there hanging out, if they hear me say the staircase and us freaking out, they're go to be like
01:00:24
Speaker
What the fuck does that even mean? What's wrong with the story? What does that even mean? Is it bad? Is it good? Well, here's the answer. We don't fucking know. Yeah. Because she gets out and she's like, Mark, come on, come on. And then who fucking comes around the corner at that exact moment but fucking helly?
01:00:40
Speaker
we Okay, so it was confirmed that Helly by the actress. She said it was definitely Helly. She did a Q&A after the finale, but I was so sold on it being Hellenna. That look on her face when Mark's turn back is turned and she looks at Jimma begging him to come.
01:01:02
Speaker
That was a fucking, as Irv would say, cruel fucking Helena. And the fact that she didn't even say anything of like, are you sure? I know. I just chills thinking about that scene. She is also deserving. yeah Every single person deserves an award, but like her and Milchak specifically. Yeah. To be honest.
01:01:21
Speaker
And that's what I was thinking was like, she didn't even say like, are you sure? Like, what are we going to do with with her? Nope. Like, it was just like, you know is the love taken over? It's gotta be what it is. know. It's just like, like,
01:01:34
Speaker
Mark S.' 's love for Helly took over in that moment. And, like, it was greater, youre like, not greater, but just, like, the, like... well I guess, like, was greater than his, uh, Mark Scott's love for Gemma, because he's the one in control in that moment. And he's not, he's like, yeah, he's not, he's started the reintegration process, but, like, you know, they only did, like, a couple sessions. Like, him and Gabi were only able to do, like, like two or three, maybe, tops. Yeah. Before they were like, he might die, gotta stop. That kind of thing.
01:02:07
Speaker
So, I don't know. I just, like...
Helly's Identity: Helena's Influence?
01:02:10
Speaker
Well, and so that was one of... I did not know that she... Yeah....had that Q&A and it's confirmed that don't know this direct quote, Because I'm like...
01:02:21
Speaker
I'm like, okay, that's just straight up bullshit. Yeah. Because, like, that, I watched that scene, like, three, I rewinded it, like, three or four times just to look at her face so I could be like, that fucking Helena bitch. Yeah. I was can i was so convinced. I know that's her. I know it's her. Which I saw another theory that was talking about how when the red lights go on.
01:02:45
Speaker
um she immediately goes back to helena because obviously like if some shit was going down you would want like an upper level to be in it ceo to be aware and be able to make the right decisions for the company and which had me pretty sold but then i was thinking like well you you know she was fighting with milchik and like helping stop that yeah but Maybe she just had to go along with it. Maybe she was just going along to get along in that moment and stuff. Yeah. Dude, I don't fucking know.
01:03:13
Speaker
That is really blowing my mind because I had a long conversation. was talking to co-worker about it yesterday. We had a long conversation about that fucking smirk. Yeah. She and both were like, there's no fucking way, dude. There's no fucking way because Helly was never cruel. i know it's i mean it's it was such a setup to where it it just felt like that had to have been what it is but i think that goes back to their final conversation right is that kind of made the decision for them both of what they were gonna yeah exactly god which uh the one of the big theories i saw not to get too deep into theories but no we will that was the true test of cold harbor
01:03:53
Speaker
He didn't choose Gemma, and he chose Helly. He chose Helly instead. Wait. Which is kind of like a reversal, so guess. So wasn't just working on her, but himself? Yeah, and it kind of goes back to the whole idea of like how Helly or Helena, I can't remember who it was at the time, was saying, like...
01:04:13
Speaker
this is all part of the plan. Like everything we do, they know we're doing and they want us to do this and stuff like that. think that was Helena playing Heli. Right. That's one the first... That would make sense. I think that's before... That could just be wrong. I think that's like the first or second episode. Yeah. So... Yeah, I think it's after the Keanu Reeves stop motion. Yeah. That's... Yeah, because they're like, oh, we're different people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:04:36
Speaker
yeah Yeah. So that was Heli. Yeah. Or Helena, rather, who said that. Which she could just be saying that to...
01:04:43
Speaker
getting their heads or yeah something so dude fuck dude i that i mean that is interesting like okay like there's an emergency going on like she pops out of it yeah like kind of a thing but like but if if that's what brit lower said yeah i don't i'll have to look at the quote later um or maybe in the script that's what it said yeah or maybe it's just like how rick insane he's not a goat they have to say this to keep those exactly dude i don't know it seems weird that that one thing would be 100% confirmed. Yeah. like Well, and it does seem weird that you would destroy a theory in an interview. like Immediately. That seems like something they would say, like, you know, I can't really speak on that.
01:05:27
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. you like let let people That way people will talk about it. Because surely there's... interesting See, I don't know. See, you know, no, conspiracy theory hat. Yeah. Bullshit, dude. That was fucking... I mean, I believe it. Unless a little bit of a Helena is, like...
01:05:41
Speaker
like Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. What if... I'm following.
01:05:53
Speaker
Helly has been alive long enough for... a bit of helena's true nature start coming out similar to mark similar to mark and mark reintegrating yes like yeah like i don't think she's reintegrating but like i mean it happened with irv as well yeah and he wasn't reintegrating he wasn't reintegrating as far as we know yeah like so like what if there was a little bit of like a little bit of like the truth like you're
01:06:24
Speaker
not to say actual self but but a little bit of that cruelness yeah like that maybe creeping that's slipping in yeah and it is helly but maybe she's gonna start kind of not being the helly we all know yeah i like that because she was like because that smirk is fucking yeah bitch i got your man is cruel it's the only word you can use it's so cruel okay I'll leave that as my headcanon for it for now. I like that.
01:06:52
Speaker
It's a, it's a Helly, a Hellena slipping in a little bit because a Hellena one or a Helly one in this moment and stuff like, I don't know. It just all, so, and then they run down the hallway to a beautiful music and they do like old school thing where they freeze frame and zoom in real nice and hard.
01:07:14
Speaker
That's a classic old school filmmaking thing that i'm so happy to see somebody do again well in such a good way too oh a beautiful moment to do it too the music playing everything is so perfect about it so i think it's time now it's finally time yeah what are your what's your big theory and your like your other like sidewinder so my other sidewinder was the um Was the whole, the hallway was the true cold
Mark's Reintegration: Abrupt Halt
01:07:42
Speaker
Harbor.
01:07:42
Speaker
Okay. Kind of test. Right. But yeah. What will Mark S choose in this? Yeah. Knowing what he knows, like they know he knows when they knew he was so with sorry, I got to hit this as well.
01:07:56
Speaker
ah The thing that aggravated me the most about that final scene was the fact that like the reintegration that kept happening with Mark just kind of like stopped happening. It did.
01:08:07
Speaker
Like, I'm like, you'd think that kick in a little bit, but. Yeah, you'd think there'd be, yeah, there'd be like those weird like flashes of like this moment, this moment. Like, I'm outside, I'm inside, like back and forth. Yeah. Yeah, those did kind of just like stop. They kind of stopped. It could have been like because they'd only done a few sessions. Right. it kind of wore off and it's like you have to like. Yeah, no, that's very true. Keep doing them. Well, and he stopped taking whatever taking. mean, he stopped taking his weird little shots and stuff. So like maybe. That's probably. That might be part of it. I don't know. Just devil's advocate.
Is Lumen a Cult?
01:08:36
Speaker
Okay, so the main thing I'm thinking right now, and this is kind of to take away some of the craziness of the theories to avoid the Game of Thrones effect, but
01:08:49
Speaker
my theory is that Lumen is just kind of...
01:08:55
Speaker
Like, what's the word I want to use? um Kind of just a cult and doesn't really have a greater purpose past that. Yeah.
01:09:05
Speaker
Like, they're trying to do all of these things, and we think, oh, this is going to like change the world, or like they're going to do something with this. But kind of where I'm at right now is that they're just like...
01:09:18
Speaker
a cult yeah fucking around. yeah And that's like, there's no real, like, they're trying to breed out this, like, fear, but there's no real, like, practical use. They're just kind of, like, messing around trying to make, like, the perfect person for their cult. I think, to kind of, like, piggyback off that, I think they, like we talked about last episode, it's, Lumen is,
01:09:42
Speaker
hyper like organized religion vibe right like there's no doubt about that right like and as we go deeper into it it's getting away because it starts off and it seems like it's like hella pro like union and like workforce versus the corporate like overlord kind of a vibe and there is that still but
Lumen's Dystopian Theocracy
01:10:00
Speaker
it's getting way more into like religious stuff yeah like like just the themes and how everything is playing out i think That Cold Harbor will change the world because they'll be able to erase people's trauma thanks to Kier.
01:10:18
Speaker
And so, like, I feel like it's like, oh, hey, we figured out how to get rid of people's trauma um through Gemma and Mark. Right. Kill Gemma. We know how to do it. We know we can do that.
01:10:29
Speaker
Now we can do that. And, oh, you want to have your trauma eradicated from your brain? Cool. Yeah. fine print on page 200 of the terms and conditions you sign.
01:10:42
Speaker
It also says, also you will, you will be like implant, like your chip will implant you with a full devotion to cure and that way. Right. So they can change the world and make a perfect.
01:10:53
Speaker
There's no more trauma. Yeah. dystopian like uh theocracy it's like star wars clones or something like that like they can make a ah devoted theocracy to cure because there's no more pain or trauma in the world and everybody is fuck and and that's like they only have to do that to everybody who's alive Right now. because then when Because then once everybody's already done that, then that's how they're raised.
01:11:18
Speaker
That's how the world works. So it will change the world forever. And then you don't even need to get severed yeah ever again. so Which works hand in hand. I completely agree with that. It's like they're a crazy fucking cult.
01:11:33
Speaker
But they have a, they want to take over the world mentality. Because it's just This is what all organized religions want to do. Right. Fucking at me. There's just, it's there's so many weird things within the show that's like, it it really seems, and I think it's true, that there's only like four people working there.
Lumen's Mysterious Employee Count
01:11:51
Speaker
Right.
01:11:51
Speaker
ah Yeah, okay, so we got... And that kind of goes with the whole crazy cult thing where like they're not really doing anything. got Drummond, gone. So he's gone. One of the like few people. yeah got ah We'll start at the bottom. We got Drummond, dead.
01:12:04
Speaker
Natalie, seemingly very important. The old security guy Old security guy, dead, gone. um We've got Milchak. Cobell, not there anymore. So, like, yeah check.
01:12:14
Speaker
Miss Wong, she's getting shipped off. Yeah. Fellowship. Which is crazy. She may or may not get back. And stuff. She used to bring her bed, though. Yeah. Which, oh oh, real quick, real quick. yeah That was something about the Rickon works for Lumen thing.
01:12:27
Speaker
he said so He says something about, like, having to, like, move his bed. Yeah. As a child. Yeah. and stuff And how he has like three or four beds or whatever. Like he yeah says something about like, oh, must be like, he makes some weird comment like offhand and stuff, but then like tying it back. So Rick, it's still out on you, but he you fucking goat, yeah not the goat, but, but a goat, I mean, kind of the goat, but yeah, but neither here or there.
01:12:51
Speaker
Um, so you got Miss Wong's gone. Milchick's still there. Natalie's still there. As far as we know, um, Helena, obviously, And her dad. Yeah. And that's it.
01:13:02
Speaker
That's literally the only people that we know who actively still work for Lumen. Yeah. Like, I guess the bodyguard too, that was their bodyguard. Yeah. Like, I mean, there's obviously like, A bunch of, like, no-name underlings and, like, goons and stuff.
01:13:17
Speaker
um But, like, as far as, like... And then and then the board, quote-unquote... Don't exist. Yeah, bullshit, dude. That's Natalie's fucking role, dude. Well, and there's so many instances... I'll die on that hill.
01:13:31
Speaker
The very end, the whole... Like, I was kind of disappointed until I started to think about this. I was like, can't they just, like, shut him off externally? Yeah. Like, from the outside. But it may just seriously be a thing to where the only way you control anything in regards to this is in that control room that they have.
01:13:48
Speaker
Like, it's a super small, just, like, everyone who's involved is fully bought in. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And was yeah apparently it's very easy to move that control room because yeah that's where they put the, like they like, family center and stuff. Because, like, when they first...
01:14:07
Speaker
excuse me When Dylan first shows up to it, he's like, he was like like this is the control. why And he's like, no, this is the family center. like There's your Audi's wife, like your wife like in there. Go hang out. So like it's very easy. like It's a very small room.
01:14:21
Speaker
There's not a lot of working parts to it. Technically, well, they thought they needed two people to work it, but Dylan proved that wrong, which was as hell. He's not even tall. His wingspan's probably not even that. That's what I'm saying, dude. He works so hard. It was so good.
01:14:35
Speaker
But yeah, so. It seems like it does take a lot of like processing power. Like, okay. So to put it in a way, like, so when we went to the moon, the root, the computer that we use to help us go to the moon in 69.
01:14:54
Speaker
Nice. Was hell. Yeah. An entire room. Right.
Severance Tech: Historical Comparisons
01:14:58
Speaker
Our phones have more computing power than that room did yeah at the time. Yeah. So could it... Could be, like, a couple things here that we can think about.
01:15:09
Speaker
Like, is... Do they need... Because of the way Severance works, it's obviously an insane technology. Do you need that much room to be have the computing power to turn... the Oh, yeah. Like, turn on the Glasgow Protocol, the overtime contingency?
01:15:28
Speaker
Like, or did they... need that much room, and now going forward, now they don't. Now you just need a computer. Yeah. You know what i mean? Now maybe like... maybe they've like like It's like been able to like like ah shrink it the like shrink it down how much like computing power you need. or like you can like There's like a... you know Because the whole thing with like the computers from the moon landing and our computers now is like it's because they didn't have like microchips and stuff. Maybe they have like a microchip that can handle it. Which advanced super quick. And we still don't know how long it was in between. No, yeah, exactly. yeah So yeah it could be...
01:16:06
Speaker
It could be that because, wait, no, we do know how long it's been because they said it was months, but like, was literally a weekend. Yeah, you're right. And they moved the entire thing. So maybe they were like... um again, it could be, it could be that they just moved the room somewhere and they still need that much. Or maybe they were like, actually like we're getting very, we can knock that out. And like, we're getting a thing where it's like, you can have a tablet or like a computer. Yeah. And like, you can like, like me, like Milchak's a computer. Can he could do it from his computer in his office now?
01:16:35
Speaker
Yeah. know Like kind of a thing. Cause they were able to advance it. Well, and you know, it is interesting how all of their like computers, like even Milchak's computer was like old ancient, ancient looking. Yeah. It's interesting. Yeah.
01:16:45
Speaker
I did see, speaking of the computers, and an interview with Britt Lauer. um They apparently shot when she's trying to turn on the computer in the first episode of this season, when she's like being Kalina.
01:17:01
Speaker
So if they shot it multiple times where she just automatically turns it on and then they should and where she's like trying to find it and stuff and uh they ended up going with the like the like she's kind of struggling it kind of gives a hint yeah exactly they decided they decided like like yeah we'll leave it in there's enough like we have room to like give some like let's see if people will notice kind of yeah yeah um yeah man i I don't really know what else to say. i don't have any fucking clue where this possibly is going to go from here. We're going to have to pick up What do they do? We're going have to pick up them running down the hallway still. Yeah. Like, we're going to have to pick up there. Well, just, where do you where do you go from there? And where do you go from there?
01:17:40
Speaker
No fucking clue. No idea no fucking clue do people come milk check comes in because he's out yeah but he's also surrounded by dylan and all the marching band people who they were able to flip to the union to speak like and stuff so like are they just gonna like keep him there and stuff is he able to get out like this are all the alarms going off so like everybody involved fucking um the um the top Egan, like he's sitting there watching that shit happen with Gemma. And he's like, fuck, fuck. Yeah. He's freaking out, which was great. I saw an edit. That was, uh, someone made it to where he was playing a super Mario computer and like it's hit by like a monster. So that's fucking amazing. yeah Um, Oh my God.
01:18:26
Speaker
What? Okay, that scene when... hope you're going to bring up... That scene when he comes in to talk to... Helly. The egg? No, not the Oh my god. That was super fuck fucking gross. It made me feel so icky. I like softballed eggs, too. Yeah, like that was disgusting. You should have eaten it raw. Oh god. No, no, no. More important. Yeah. When um she's trying to memorize the... Right. And he comes in.
01:18:53
Speaker
What was that? the moment he comes in and switches her to helena because obviously he'd have that power yeah obviously he'd be able to do that it like he would if anybody's gonna have the fucking special phone that you could do that with it's gonna be that fucking guy for his daughter and then she's and then from that moment on she's ah helena playing heli again Again, completely disregarding what she said in that interview. I'm just completely ignoring that. To honest. That's interesting.
01:19:32
Speaker
Because that could play into the whole thing. I really understand what that scene's for except for that. Yeah. i mean, I was confused. Because he comes in and she's like, I'm going to kill this motherfucker. yeah And like he obviously walks away. Right. so I mean, that could go back to the whole um how they're trying to test any mark to say...
01:19:52
Speaker
Sure. no to Gemma. Sure. Is that her coming to the hallway is like, yeah, this is part of it. Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. Again, just interesting literally just off the dome. Well, and why she would help keep Milchak is because she's like, we got to do this test and this, and yeah being like yeah like like being like i have to help keep this and like he needs to get jim out yeah so that we can do this so we can watch mark s go that's interesting bye bitch and then that smirk makes sense it all comes back to that smirk i know so wild um we'll have to look i hope i was right about that that interview but i'm positive i saw something where she did an interview and she like was like no that's helly yeah yeah but again as far as she knows yeah true
01:20:37
Speaker
True. and stiller I didn't even think about that. How they definitely don't know. ben Stiller and the showrunners are lumen. Yeah. And we're all in ease. Just trying to figure out what's happening. Yeah, exactly. Including the actors yeah in the show.
Episode Closure and New Beginnings
01:20:51
Speaker
Um, i I think that's it. I think that's all I got. You got anything else? No. I mean, I'm sure we missed something because there was just so much. Oh, we missed so much for sure. But no, I mean, it's ah so good. It's so good. I will say like after the episode ended, I was a little bit disappointed, but the more and more thought about it, I'm like, this this is the way. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah. i see what they need You said you were like kind of like you were like ah kind of bummed, but whatever. And I watched it and I was like, I get what you're saying. Well, I'm just fiending for answers. Yeah. i think And at the end I was like, feel like we got nothing. Exactly. We got we got so many answers.
01:21:30
Speaker
It's like it's like we closed. a ton of doors yeah but opened more. Yeah. And that's, it's not unsaid. We closed doors we didn't know we had. Yeah, exactly. Like Cobell and everything like that. Yeah, exactly. We closed so many doors It opens so many more, so it's, like, satisfying, but also, like, goddammit. Yeah.
01:21:52
Speaker
Exactly. Well, hell yeah. Thanks for making it down. Absolutely. It was pleasure. For a person one. Thanks for having me. Very fun. Very
Show Recommendations: Hulu Original and Yellow Jackets
01:22:00
Speaker
good. Lots of... God, I think I'm just going to do a full rewatch. Full rewatch, yeah. In the next few weeks. Span it out over... Three years. Two years and 60 days. Yeah, hopefully not that long, but... Yeah. But yeah, um...
01:22:15
Speaker
uh well yeah uh that's it uh seems like we're wrapped up here uh you know follow on insta and tiktok all that good stuff um uh any uh any uh shout outs any plugs um i do want to plug a tv show me and savannah just watched in like two days okay hulu original Which is shocking to me because they don't really make too much. haven't seen lot of their TV shows, but their movies, they'll do horror movies. Right. Most those are pretty mid. Yeah, I've seen couple of those, I think. But whatever. Paradise.
01:22:50
Speaker
Okay. the like ufo-y kind of one sort of some kind of weird like government secret kind of yeah it gives me uh vibes of silo okay um the apple tv show yeah um to where it is i mean a little bit of a spoiler but you find out in episode one that's um yeah an event happens in the real world, like a nuclear, like a Holocaust event. Not Holocaust. Nuclear Holocaust. yeah Nuclear wipeout kind of thing. yeah um
01:23:21
Speaker
To where part of the government had been working on building a self-sustaining city underground. Nice. And they go under there. And that's all i'll say about it because there's there's a lot of spoilers. So many twists and turns. Nice, yeah. I keep seeing ads for it and I kept being like...
01:23:40
Speaker
yeah it would it be like hulu original and i'm like i't know yeah that's what all that's only thing has been pushing me off on it Yeah, and the show kind of follows a Security guard for the president. Yeah, also living down. Yeah, that I can't remember the actor's name so good and so is the president good and the president too Yeah, um oh yeah, and he gets murdered and they gotta like solve the murder and stuff like that, but it's cool it was really enjoyable um yeah i'll need to check that out watch too quick watch too and already renewed it got renewed for a second season in like three episodes like instantly yeah fuck yeah dude uh that sounds awesome yeah i'll need to i'll need to check that out because i have been curious about it but like it's the thing it's like i've seen a lot of ads for it but not a lot of people talking about it no so yeah now me neither i had no idea what it was okay yeah um yeah no i'll definitely check that out then
01:24:29
Speaker
ah My plug, also a TV show. um If you're looking to fill the void, ah there is still ah at least i think three ah least three or four episodes left of Yellow Jackets Season 3. Yellow Jackets is really fucking good.
01:24:45
Speaker
Have you seen any Yellow Jackets? You know, it's funny. I watched Season 1 and then I... It's not that I lost interest. I just didn't think about watching the rest of it. And i think at the I think season one was weird... Season one was on Netflix.
01:24:59
Speaker
No, I think was... season one. think season one was on MGM or some weird app. Oh, really? Or maybe at least when it was first me now maybe yeah because i so it's on it's on paramount plus because it's a showtime show so if you have paramount plus that's where you can watch all of it season only is on netflix so i went to watch season one i finally was like okay i'll bite the bullet fucking two days later i watched all of season one it was so i enjoyed season one but and then um i was like oh fuck like what and I was like, oh, it's on Paramount+. And I was like, okay, cool. So I just watched the second season there.
01:25:32
Speaker
I will say, second season, I really enjoyed it. I understand why people are like, it's a bit of a snob. People don't. Without spoiling anything, there's a, like... behind the scenes reason why that one kind of sluts and stuff, but it'd be a huge spoiler to tell you, like, like well, this is why, i could like, kind of a thing, so... Yeah. um ah But season three, back back back to form, baby.
01:25:58
Speaker
Oh, yeah, it's getting real fucking weird. yeah. It's getting real fucking weird in the best possible way. Yeah, I'll have to give that a rewatch. Oh, I love it. I love it. So ah so you've seen season one. Season one, yeah. So you know that, like, yeah... Not spoiler, because it's literally the first scene. So they crash and they are stranded and they have to eat people to survive. And all I'll say is, without putting too fine a point on it, they don't just...
01:26:26
Speaker
They do a lot of different things they just did not need to do to survive. Okay. Like, they're getting into some, like, oh, so this is why you guys came back and never talked about what happened out there. Never talked to each other. And why you're all freaking out that you're getting blackmailed now. Okay.
01:26:43
Speaker
Yeah. There's some fucking wild shit we're learning right now. Yeah, it's it's fucking awesome. Yeah, I'll definitely have to rewatch season one because it's been so long. Yeah, would. Yeah, i I definitely would rewatch one and then like two and then three. Yeah, we'll be done in just a few weeks and stuff. But it's super fucking good ah and like completely different than Severance. But like yeah but another like genuinely good, like like like a good like...
01:27:10
Speaker
mystery thriller with a splash of cannibalism like kind of a thing. Like, so if you like those kinds of things, like one unique, but good. Not many shows. oh it's very unique. Yeah. It's very unique. The way it's playing out, I would say.
01:27:21
Speaker
Cause it's also like a big thing is, uh, last thing I'll say, then we'll wrap up. Um, is, uh,
01:27:28
Speaker
There's still to this day a huge debate on if it's if it's paranormal or not. Okay. People don't know. like i like that. I could go either way. I'm like, I could go either way. If it is, great. If it's not, great. yeah It will work either way. yeah um Kind of the thing.
01:27:45
Speaker
so um So yeah, watch a Paradise on Hulu. nice on Watch ah Yellow Jackets on um on a Paramount Plus to get all three seasons.
01:27:56
Speaker
um And you know anything else you can while we wait. two years and 360 days ah for Severance Season 3, which is going to be the next best season of television. like Because this one right now is at number one for me in recent history.
01:28:14
Speaker
Yeah, it's insane. All right. Well, I think that's it. Yeah. Hell yeah. See y'all later.