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The Secret Life of Walter Mitty with Nick Offenbach - Red Car or Blue Car
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Nick is back to talk about Ben Stiller's 2013 The Secret Life of Walter Mitty! There's some good and bad in this one, and it's pretty hard to nail down exactly where it should land on a 1 out of 10. The soundtrack? Good. The message? Good. The plot? Meh. The daydream sequences? Meh. Tune in for more!
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Breaking News and Show Introduction
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um We interrupt your regularly scheduled programming to bring you some breaking news. There's been reports all over the area of something crazy going on, something big. People's homes, their minds even, are being taken over by something called... What is it they're calling it? They're calling it Bad Movie of Age!
00:00:19
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What up, nerds? It's me, Jacob Bad with Bad Movie Debate, and we were where were we'rere we're here to do a ah debate episode. um We got Nick. We got Nick Offenbach. We think it's gonna be more of a discussion. It's more of a discussion, but...
00:00:34
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It's called Bad Movie Debate. And I'm not rebranding now. It's going to be a bad movie discussion today. Yeah, more so. More so than that. Because we never are hard in cut on the movies we've done. Never usually have. Because we did the Dragon one, we were just like, that sucked. Yeah, that one was tough. That was a bad one. I had a lot of fun finding shit to talk about the core though when we did that one. That was a lot of fun. You were a disgrace. It was a great movie. It was so easy. It is an easy one. There's literally a shot where Aaron Eckhart, like they're all going like, whoa, this way. And he misses the cue and he just goes and turns away the wrong way. And it's in the movie. They use that cut. They use that take. It's good. There needs to be a phrase for movies that aren't good but are enjoyable to watch.
00:01:16
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Yeah, it's probably like a German word for it. They have words for every little thing. out My internet's being weird. You probably wouldn't be able to find it. It's the dark edges. I know. It's okay, it's fine.
Top Five Remake Movies
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So we're doing The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, the 2013 Ben Stiller one, right? When did the first one come out?
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I wish I could look it up. The 50s or 60s, and it was a little bit different of a plot. It wasn't exactly yeah the same kind of a story, but he about a guy who daydreams a lot in like fantastical ways about how his life is kind of mid, and then he does A, B, C, X, Y, Z until it's not. yeah So basic theme, basically, and then he just they just changed some stuff. but um Yeah, 40s or 50s or something. I don't know. I can't look. I usually would check. We don't have a Jamie to look it up for us, unfortunately. Austin! Her phone's not working either. So in honor of that, or because of that, we're doing, yeah, fucking check the koozies, bro. The koozies are sweet. You had to keep that. You were like, I don't want to be on video. And I was about to be like, well, then you don't get a koozie, dude. That's weird.
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it's fine um the government already has your face it's fine that's true um they have all of our faces uh we're doing our top five remake movies right yeah and do you have your five ready yes i didn't know this was a remake you walked in and went oh yeah because i looked it up the other day and i was like hey uh the first thing i saw is this is a remake let's do remake movies and you came in as I was setting up and you were like, I gotta find my movies. Did you find them? Hell yeah.
Merits of Remakes: Scarface and Others
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And I won't count Dune one and two as two different movies, but that's probably top of the list on my remakes. Hell yeah. Cause the other ones are unwatchable.
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literally okay um are we am i going all at once and oh yeah all are we alternating nah okay all you uh and then scarface which i know always forget that yeah um i also did not know that it departed was a remake i didn't either have that one's on my list i so yeah what internal affairs is what it was uh some uh an asian movie because i was looking into it i was like damn that's literally yeah that's ah that's it that is a remake like there is no way it's not a remake uh and then 310 uva oh yeah well what's his name the one christian bale yeah good that's a good movie i haven't seen it really 11 i feel like it's a cop out but i mean that one's on my list too so it is what it is i feel like there'd be some overlap
00:03:46
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I mean, there's not a lot of great remakes out there. Usually the original ones are better. And I need to watch Scarface again. The Al Pacino? Yeah. It's been a really long time for me, too. Like forever. Because my mom wouldn't let me watch R-rated movies until I was 17. Yeah. Like the government tells you to. Yeah, exactly. And so when I turned 17, I was like, I'm watching every R-rated
Personal Experiences with R-rated Movies
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movie in the house. There's nothing you can do. And so that was the last time I saw Scarface and then American Psycho.
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I don't remember any of them. I don't remember either of them. I haven't seen American Psycho in a while either. It's good, but it's like... I know, mostly through... I'm like, oh, I remember that, but I think I just remember it from memes. It's a very meme-able movie, yeah especially now. Like the business card thing. The thing is so dude. I've just seen it with like cat pictures. yeah It's so good it's good. It's somehow a very meme-able movie, which is hilarious. um Pretty solid list. Again, some overlap. ah The Departed. Yeah, I put that on there. ah they Had no idea until the other night. um Ocean's Eleven.
00:04:49
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yeah Yeah, like I knew that one. This the Clooney pit one is just so so good good. It's so good. um And now this is where we deviate. So Nightmare Alley. never even heard it So there's one from the 40s, which is really good. And then Guillermo del Toro just did one with ah Bradley Cooper and a good number of other people like a horror thing.
00:05:13
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No, it's not a horror movie.
Evolving Appreciation for Pan's Labyrinth
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It's a, it's a, so the original one is like a straight up. There's like three people you mentioned. I'm like, I'll watch it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it is. It's like the original one is like a straight up classic black and white, like noir crime movie, yeah like and stuff. um stuff about the circus and stuff and like uh like freak shows and everything and like all that kind of stuff it's it's pretty wild honestly for the time it came out um and the camera just remade it like three or four years ago now it's bradley cooper and uh kate blunt uh kate blunch at
00:05:48
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You know what, Toro, he did Sicario, right? No, he was in Sicario, right? Who was the guy? Maybe? No, they andicio delta that's Benicio Benicio del Toro. No, Game of the World, Toro did Pan's Labyrinth and all those movies. Pan's Labyrinth. Fuck. The movie is so good. Whenever a foreign movie like episode comes up, that's on my list. That one in Sea of God. Yes, exactly. Yeah, man, I watched Pan's Labyrinth not too long ago.
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No, like three or four years ago. Yeah. And it was the same timeframe. It was like, oh, you can't watch already movies till you're 17. I watched that one and I was like, that was a boring movie. Yeah. And then I watched it again. I was just like. This is so good. Oh, my God. oh good Oh, my God. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That movie is so fucking good. ah Yeah. Nightmare Alley. It's really good. The first one is so the original one is about crime. I would say this one is about sin.
00:06:41
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okay which is which is the distinction. Both are good, but they're telling they're telling almost the exact same story verbatim, except for the ends. yeah um But the way it's like presented is like, this one's this was just about breaking the law, and this one's like, are you gonna go to hell? A morality. Yeah, kind more more ah more of a moral story. It's really good, I think you might like it.
The Secret Life of Walter Mitty: Themes and Reception
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And then I got the thing.
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Thanks so fucking good first ones great. I have the laser disc of it I don't think it's not you can't see it, but the laser disc of it up on the wall ah the original one the thing from another world ah Is that and za Castle? It is. Nice. Yeah, right? He gave it to Austin and I for our wedding. Nice. And stuff, which is, yeah, it's awesome. I told him, I was like, hey, peep the show. It's in there. And he was like, no fucking way. He was super jazzed. And then Nosferatu, the new one that just came out. I was like, there's no fucking way I can't push this thing out. It's so fucking good. Every iteration of Nosferatu is incredible. It's so fucking good. I haven't seen it. i ill I don't know if you'll love it.
00:07:47
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I think you'll like it, but I don't think, I don't think you'll hate it. I don't, I have no clue. Honestly, most of the time I watch a movie, I have no idea if I'll like it or hate it. yeah yeah like um Even while actively watching it. Cause every reason i like that movie sucked.
00:08:02
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And the next day, I'm like, you know, that's actually pretty good. Like you just said, with Pan's Labyrinth, you were like... Yeah, but that was like, I was 17 for being like 30. Yeah, and it was in Spanish most of the time. Yeah, and it was like, you need to come on. Yeah, it took me a while to be like, no. See, guys, it's still great though. That's been consistently great. That one's always been good. That's good. There's no doubt about that. Yeah, that one's... Yeah. God.
00:08:22
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yeah Just let me know when you watch nots brought to you I'll stop talking about all I really did a whole 30 minute review episode I don't need to go into it. I don't need to go into it find that on on all the places um So for this one secret life of Walter Minnie 2013 the Ben Stiller one who directed it men story Yeah, he directed and stars in it. Some other guy adapted it wrote it whatever um So rotten tomatoes score 52 from the critics right down the middle audience 71 But IMDB rated it pretty well. It's 7.3, which is yeah one of, if not the highest ah scores for IMDB for any movie I've done on the show. Yeah, i which I was interested. I was shocked by that. Because what's the Daniel Radcliffe one where he's the Nazi?
00:09:02
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Oh, Imperium? Yeah. Oh god, what a movie. Cause I got like a 6.8 or something. Yeah, which is insane. And we watched it and we were like, that was a pretty damn good movie. Yeah, we're like, that movie is amazing. But he's still just like always Harry Potter. He can't break it. I think he breaks it in that one. Kind of. It's pretty wild. It's pretty wild, but it's still just like damn, Harry Potter infiltrated the Nazis. It is also very funny being like, Yo, low key man. I'm just like, yeah, yeah. Like Elijah Wood, I feel like kind of broke out of Frodo. He did a little bit better of a job. Robert Pattinson broke out of Edward Easy. Yeah, I forget that he is Edward because those movies are forgettable. Yeah, I mean, they are, but like they're period. It's just the stuff he's done since it's like he's doing some Buckwatch. He was Cedric Diggory. Yeah, which one is that one? My boy.
00:09:48
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Yeah, he'll never he'll never lose that he's more Cedric Diggory than he is Edward I agree in my opinion um and the Metacritic 54 for their critics and users 7.7 Which is insanely high for them too. I feel yeah, I noticed was like looking when I was looking up this movie to do it again. It was Very much like critics were like Yeah, mid. And people were like, yeah, that's all right. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of how I felt about it overall. But I think this I think that will lead interestingly into how we just we discussed this, though. Fair. I have a really good. My bad quote is really interesting, too. I will do the good quote first and I'll tell you.
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I have two bad quotes, I guess. So the good quote from the critic reviews, Ollie Richards for Empire Magazine said, quote, as a director, this feels like Stiller's moment. Mitty is a film that bravely rejects cynicism. In many ways, it's the new Forrest Gump. Go with it, and it is, in all senses, wonderful. End quote. That's a good review. Yeah, this guy said this is the new Forrest Gump movie. that's he like And like I'm like, that's intense. yeah This guy fucking loved this movie. I mean.
00:10:59
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I disagree with that. I disagree with that, too. It's not long enough. It's not fucking Forrest Gump. No, it's not Forrest Gump. You know what I mean? That's the craziest part. The rest of his thing, I'm like, OK, yeah, just go with it. It is what it is. And it's OK. It's the new Forrest Gump. It's kind of bold. So the first bad quote, I didn't write who wrote it, because it was just, I usually try to go for the shortest, meanest ones, because I just think they're funny. This one was a little more poignant. The anonymous user. Yeah, exactly. It was for RogerEbert.com, if that tells you anything.
00:11:31
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even though I read it a lot, but um they li I don't know what the guy's name was, but it says, I hate, hate, hated this movie was the entire was like quote on Rotten Tomatoes. And I was like, okay, let's take a chill pill. yeah Not to like jump the gun on this. And I don't want to like ruin the argument of whatever the statement on this is because it's one of those movies that I can see.
00:11:58
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why someone would hate it. Yes. Um, I totally get why someone would be like fuck this yeah and like I again I don't want to like jump to the the gun at the end of the the argument here because I was plenty of talked about yeah I want to argue that it's a good movie but it is so much easier to poke holes in than it is to defend in my opinion because there are some holes and like if we're going to argue this movie based on like the standard of like
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my favorite thing to make fun of like Susan Cain like we're going to argue do this on the like oh well the the this is this and there's the continuity here and here um like it's pretty easy to poke holes in it yeah But the overall plot and filmmaking and stuff like that. Yeah, but the overall like vibe of the movie and the message of the movie. Yeah. I'm like, this is great. I like the message a lot. Yeah, and I like the vibe of the movie. It's very airy. Yeah. um It's whimsical. It is whimsical. I think it's got a pretty good lesson on it. But like I just like this is the one because Antene loved it.
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Oh wow. Yeah, she loved it. She was like, I love that movie. Okay. Um, but the thing that drove me absolutely insane is the end. And again, I am arguing for this movie.
Critique of Walter Mitty's Daydreams
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Yeah. I think I'll be poking holes. Because like, this is the one that drove me crazy. It's cause you're at the very end, which I don't know if we should argue from beginning or the end. I don't know. Oh, it doesn't really matter. Okay. The very end he's like,
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I'm hiking through like the Himalayas. He's going on this like epic giant journey and you'll find Sean Penn, which I think is really funny. That is Sean Penn Yeah, it's fucking Sean Penn. His name is Sean in the movie too. I know it's great. A plus. Kind of wild. um And just Sean Penn. It's very Sean Penn. Yeah, it's hilarious. It's Sean Penn. I don't have a phone. It's very funny. Oh, is he in Ukraine again?
00:13:59
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like I mean Lily has to go like give cake to warlords. It's great um again awesome, um but he goes through all this like giant dragons like I'm Photographing snow leopards. Mm-hmm. It's a moment, and they he's like oh, it's a molecule to myself, and then they like look over and like 300 yards They're playing soccer. Yeah, even it's like Yeah, it's ridiculous. They're so close. It takes them probably two minutes to get down and go play soccer with these people. I was expecting at least there to be a monastery, like a Himalayan. I don't know if monastery is the right word. But something like that. But it's just a big plateau where they're playing soccer. Yeah. And they're supposed to be just over there on the mountain, and they're really hard to find in photographs. Yeah, exactly.
00:14:49
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Casually walking around. I really like when that happened. I was like, that's stupid. That is stupid I wrote that down too and I was like and also it was like he's not gonna take a picture of the snow leopard so he can just have this moment What a fucking douchebag like what is so pretentious. I understand it though It's so pretentious. I don't care. Your job is to be a photographer. Take a, take a fucking, take a couple quick shots and then sit in the moment and enjoy it and be like, Oh, I could have gotten a better picture if I kept taking photos. There's your moment. Just take a fucking photo. I kind of like it. I hate it. i like that like More importantly, more importantly, but the fact that they were just like right there next to a soccer field, yeah play soccer yelling, there's like a snow, like, no, that's, Well, that's gonna be not anywhere fucking around there. Yeah, that was ridiculous. That that was the one that I was like actually just like Okay, like come on. Yeah um ah Real quick. So the actual bad quote and I think you'll like oh, we didn't even get passed back Well that I went to the oh you're good I will have the like the one from Roger Deaver calm that was like I hate hate hate hated this man. Yeah, but this one
00:15:54
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I think you'll I wanted to use this one because I think it's kind of describes what we're already talking about. It's um from this is a I'm going to butcher this name. I'm sorry. Bill G. Ibarri Ibarri for New York magazine slash Vulture. It says quote.
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Exquisitely produced immaculately immaculately acted and thoroughly Uninvolving the secret life of Walter Mitty is a perfect nothing of a movie hmm like And the way I take that is like it's like it's looks great. It feels great It's fine, but there's just not a lot really going on That like like it's not and it's it's uninvolved like I think there's not like I don't know like Like I kind of get what he's saying. I disagree with him. You disagree? just I don't think there's not a lot going on. A perfect nothing of a movie, because like I was like, I'm watching this movie, I'm engaged, but by the time it ended, I was like, okay. Like, you know, like I got the message. I think it was a decent message. It was a good message. So what is your interpretation of the message?
00:17:02
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Well, it's about, I mean, like, well, again, cut to the end. You got Adam Scott, ah the douchebag guy with the beard, who's like, um, he's like, Oh, get me, you know, negative number, number 25 and stuff. And then he's like, he finally gets it. And he like, I didn't think the wall thing was funny. The what? and He's like, it's in the wallet. Oh, he's like just what's your problem? okay That pissed me off, honestly, but we'll, we'll get to that.
Interpreting Walter Mitty's Message
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Um,
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it says like they're like okay so like for the last issue the cover is it's gonna be the end of life yeah and stuff and so like the whole message is like is like about like it's not the end like you know what i mean it's all about like life and like doing stuff with your life because like walter all the e harmony stuff ah which i think it's hilarious that it was pat nozwalt who was his guy i do love pat nozwalt and he's like i do actually yeah it's like I thought that was hilarious. I love Patton Oswalt, so that made me very happy. That was the funniest part of the movie in my life. I thought that was great. Yeah, like their whole little, like they just have lunch real quick and stuff was great. Just how they tied him back into it. Yeah, exactly. They, because the whole time I was like the, just to digress for a second, I was like, I was like, this E-Harmony thing is fucking stupid. Yeah. Cause I had never seen this movie. And I was like, this is stupid. Like, why does he keep calling this fucking guy like this? But then they tie it back in and that way. And I was like, it's Patton Oswalt. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. I get it. But like,
00:18:23
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But yeah, so like Adam Scott's character is like, Oh yeah, like I'm going to like, like this is the cover. It's, it's black and white. And it says the end of life is the last physical issue. And that's what the cover is going to be. And it's all like about like the message is just like about living life and stuff. Like he never had anything to write in his eharmony thing because he never done anything. And then he he goes and does something and he finds purpose in life and like what adventure yeah means to life and how it makes a fulfilling life and it gives you confidence and stuff and like the end of life, and it's like, no, like here's what the actual photo is, it's him making like looking at photos outside of the time life. like mag like So were you? I get about, it's like live life to the fullest and stuff. And I got that, but like that's all I took it. I think it's some of that.
00:19:09
Speaker
Okay, well, what did you think it was? Cause I was like, cause I was just like, yeah, okay. Like I've seen this movie before. Like I've gotten that message before. I think I'm on par with what you're saying. I agree with it, but almost like in the same vein, but like I'm a little bit too like.
00:19:23
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Like we're going the same direction, but I'm just like over here. Yeah, there's a little bit of a dovetail. Yeah, um but not necessarily. I was like the so he's he's the whole time. He's in this like boring job. He's doing okay. No, his job's rad as fuck. Whatever. He doesn't like his job. Okay. Well, he he doesn't dislike his job, but he's boring. It's one day. It's same day to day. It's boring. Day to day. He's doing the same thing. Sure.
00:19:46
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blah, blah, blah, he's doing this, it's how it's this, big companies coming to take over, yada, yada, yada. And the whole time he's having these visions, these daydreams, which I thought the daydreams were like a little out of hand at the beginning. I wrote down like in the first like 20 or so minutes, there's like three really intense daydreams sequences. And I was like, so are we just going to keep doing this the entire time? I was like, this is too much. Like the one where he's got like the water skis and the concrete and it turned into like the Avengers thing. I was like, okay. Yeah, with the stretch Armstrong toy and stuff like that. Yeah, that's where I was like, all right, we got we got pace ourselves on these little bit. Yeah, he hasn't done anything. And then he's constantly have these daydreams of like what he wishes he was. Right. And then girl shows up, blah, blah, blah. And then he's just like, OK, well, like I'm just going to go find Sean Penn.
00:20:38
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Yeah, she's like, just go look for him. In Greenland. Like, jokingly, go to Greenland. And then he goes to Greenland. And he starts just, like, doing things. Yeah. And I think it's a lot, there's kind of a message of, like, just start doing what you want to be. Yeah. I mean, yeah, there is that. Not that, like, life is boring. It's more of this, like, OK, well, like, you have all these visions of what you want to be. Just start doing it. Yeah, just go it now. Yeah, because they find him and his sister and his mom find his travel journal his dad gave him it's completely empty because he never went and stuff like yeah I think that's definitely a part of what the message is um for sure like I feel like it's like I don't know I was just kind of like
00:21:23
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I don't know. I get that, but like playing devil's advocate here as the person who who's taking the negative. It's a bad movie side of the argument. Like, so all it took was like a girl to be remotely interested in him and tell him like, Hey, go do that thing. And then he goes and does it finally and stuff like that's kind of, I feel like you him you get what I'm saying. I'm not saying like that was what the point was. This guy is on e-harmony.
00:21:49
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Yeah. He's trying to meet someone. He's clearly older in life. Yeah. We'll say what, how old do you think he probably is in that movie? He's been working for 16 years is what they said. Yeah. So let's say he's. And to get a job at like, like like magazine. So we'll say he's 40. Yeah. 40's ish. Yeah. So like, if you get,
00:22:10
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a girl and no one's ever looked at you and you're forty years old and this girl is like hey you should do something and you're into her yeah you might actually jump out of a helicopter yeah which is crazy so i can't believe he actually did that like so i don't think it's that far fetch No it's not, but like I just like- I've done some dumb shit in the past, like- Yeah, yeah, we all have. That's a whole different podcast. Because of a girl's like looking at me. Yeah, that's a whole different podcast.
Symbolism in Walter Mitty: Beard Growth
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But you see what I'm saying, so I don't think it's that far a fetch for him to be like, okay, well I'm just gonna go to Greenland. Sure, yeah, but like, I mean he has the resources I guess to do it and stuff like at the same time, cause like- Ghost never done it, so he needs that push. So go and- Yeah, the army guys, like you haven't done anything with your life.
00:22:51
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i seen like but's like i So okay, so yeah, I guess there are there are two people kind of in his pokecon at him in his head poking him to like go finally Take care of his old mom. His sister King's like kind of a nag Yeah, I like been the provider. I love Catherine Holland. She's always such a play the same character. She always plays She played kind of a different character. She's always still kind of the same. She's always so good as like a supporting Character and she steals just like a supporting like
00:23:22
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I don't know. Just like airhead and a lot of the comedy stuff. Yeah. Her and stepbrothers. Come on. I watched her speak with Adam Scott. Yeah. She's Adam Scott's. Oh yeah. brother And she's like, and she wants to don't see Riley. She's like, she's like, do me now. oh yeah ah Yeah. Yeah, she always plays that character. Because I watched the Christmas movie that she was in, and I was just like, you're the same character. Oh, what Christmas movie? I can't remember. Was it the Bad Moms Christmas? Yeah, I think it was. OK, yeah, because i was like I was like, I know she's in that. I've never seen it. I hated it. i Yeah, it doesn't seem like something that the two of us, it's called Bad Moms Christmas. There's just us two. I was like, I hate this. Nanteen's like, it's not for you. it's like That's fair, are you? Which is fair. Regardless, ah I love Catherine Hahn.
00:24:06
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i yeah I don't know, but I thought it was funny that she was. I will say I do think it's good that I like that she was there, but she didn't she wasn't there too much yeah and stuff because and that wasn't the point it wasn't like this isn't a this was a movie that.
00:24:25
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this is a like this is a dramaomet both yeah this is a dramedy This is a drama that had some comedy, not a comedy movie. There some funny moments. like again All the E-Harmony stuff we were talking about, Patton Oswalt, that shit was hilarious. That shit was she so good. I genuinely laughed at Patton Oswalt being on the phone with him being like,
00:24:45
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Like, come on, bro. Like, can't fill out this shit, dude? Like, what are we doing here? Like, come on, bro. You're not gonna get any winks this way, bro. You get any winks from into Phoenix. No, exactly. Like, yo, oh, you went to Phoenix? Fucking cool. Like, that all was hilarious to me. Like, honestly. So, again, there's some comedy, but it's mostly about, like, a yes is from an old man coming, ah like, a midlife crisis coming of age, like, kind of story. And I feel that, but...
00:25:13
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i don't know I just like I do resonate with that bad quote a little bit about how it's like a perfect nothing movie yeah where it's like I get what you're trying to say I vibe with it hard it's a good lesson to learn But i can't i like I was engaged the whole time and I'm gonna go on record and I'm gonna look straight into camera right now. I have watched a lot of these movies and looked at my phone through these movies before I do an episode because they're that bad or they're that boring or whatever. You watched this one. This one I never looked at my phone. I was focused because it kept me interested. But by the end of it, I was like, okay, sure. yeah and i don't i mean like i don't I don't think I wasted my time.
00:25:58
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Yeah. And I agree with that. That's why it's an interesting one to debate. Yeah. That's why I don't think it's, I don't think it's a clear, like there are elements of the movie that are bad. Yes. Like I said, I can't stand the soccer thing.
00:26:12
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Yeah. Genuinely absurd. I honestly hadn't thought about that until you brought it. Yeah, it makes me so mad. Yeah. um I was focused on the state picture. Yeah. See bro. Like I get it. But continue. I am. I was hoping that we this is kind of different. and The soccer soccer really was like thing where I was like, and damn it. Well, I can't be here anymore. Yeah, that's how they have it. We're done. Fuck you. Shomping hard to argue.
00:26:41
Speaker
but yeah it's true it's like i feel like
00:26:47
Speaker
The movie's kind of like a giant plate of spaghetti and that's it. It's all carbs. Okay. I don't feel like there's any like protein to the situation. Yeah. Like there's nothing that light meat sauce, spaghetti, i meat sauce, just Alfredo. Like I don't know. Like where are the Fredo spaghetti? Yeah. I don't see the no protein. Damn. Interesting. That's kind of how I view it. It's like it was delicious. It's kind of blowing my mind. Yeah. It's like it was delicious. yeah I enjoyed it.
00:27:18
Speaker
And then like two hours later, I'm like kind of hungry so a Perfect nothing movie kind of but I think you said you didn't like that guy's boat No, i' because I don't think there's nothing into it because I think that if you're looking at something out of it. Mwah. Yeah dishes, but then you're like kind hungry but Kind of need to hit that ice cream in the freezer kind of it's there but then I think it's also like you gotta look deeper like some other movies is like in your face and I will see the protein. OK, so that that that i'm I'm glad you said that because like. I think you have to kind of think about this one. They towed the line in this one of like, you have to think about it slash you slash it's in your face like.
00:28:05
Speaker
in such a weird way in my opinion so like i guess what i'm saying is like so going back to the adam scott's character um care member's name but doesn't matter um he's douchebag he does look really bad with appeared honestly yeah like like like and they make fun of it in that one well he makes fun of it but quick quick sidebar quick sidebar um the fact that ah Walter Mitty is clean shaven and then by the end of the movie he has a beard too yeah and all the douchebags who were like successful and loved their lives had beard and stuff I was like okay all right like okay let's fucking call like that was kind of like a like again that that was like part of the like perfect perfect nothing like like all well again I kind of ties into my my point like like
00:28:55
Speaker
towing the line of like, you gotta think about it a little bit, but you don't like the beard thing, it's like, okay, come on. The end of life post, like this is what the cover's gonna be, and he comes in and he's like, no, I found it, and it's like, and like here it is, like, blah, and he's like, oh, I haven't looked at it, and then like him and the girl are walking at the end, and it's him like working on the thing, working on like photos in front of the Time Life building, like, oh, to the people who,
00:29:23
Speaker
Worked so hard for the people that made it happen or something something along those lines like I was like Like those two things are kind of really in your like like the beard and the and so way what's what's the thing with the beard? um i'm missing so in So with the beard it was like literally So Walter Mitty is completely un is completely like until he is right on the mountains, du razor shaved. Yeah, razor shaved completely clean. It wasn't as bald as your head. Yeah, it wasn't though like it wasn't that the entire time. I don't know why I'm like really fixated on the AMC gift card. that Hey, AMC, sponsor me, dude, like fucking sponsor for me. I literally am an A-list member and go to AMC exclusives. You're also a shareholder.
00:30:06
Speaker
I also am a shareholder I actually that is I can prove that if somebody wants me to prove it um anyway ah ah the beard thing right yeah like so okay my thing about the beard thing is because it wasn't like he just suddenly had a beard at the end no because the entire time he's gone it was see no exactly exactly exactly He hated Adam Scott and his cronies and stuff, but they had full beautiful beards minus Adam Scott. He does kind of look weird with the beard. It's the only movie I've ever seen. It's the only time I've ever seen. It's like started down here.
00:30:45
Speaker
Yeah, I mean as a man with a beautiful beard like started here it like never Yeah, it was just like a chin strap It's just like for me as someone who loves Adam Scott in the scene most if not all of the stuff he's been in This is the only time time I've ever seen him with a beard. I always like so tell me he's a piece of shit okay okay so it's he starts clean shaven and then he goes on his journey and he it's slowly growing out because he doesn't have time to shave because he's so busy yeah and stuff like that and um it's like it's like
00:31:20
Speaker
They're growing beards, Adam Scott and company. They are growing beards and they're nice and trim and like proper fucking like even barbershop like, you know, like beauty shop, like crisp and clean and like as beautiful as they can be. Right.
00:31:36
Speaker
His is grown and scraggly and because he doesn't have time to shave. He's not even hard as a beard. It's like I understand stubble. OK, so it's but like he's growing into his beard. He had you he had such a boring life. He had time to meticulously clean shave his face every fucking day. So he never had any stubble because that's what he was going for, because he was a I don't know why, but like I'm just gonna put it this way. he had He lived a boring life so he didn't have any facial hair, so he was a clean shaven man, which is boring, I guess. like
00:32:14
Speaker
But he's growing his unkempt facial hair and scrubble and stuff. So it's like he is growing a beard and becoming a confident, like, I know who I am. I can do anything I want to man, but it's not well groomed. It's just growing. And he's like, he's like, and I'll cut it when I want to. I'm too busy doing cool shit. Those guys, they wake up every morning and like, step, step, step, step, step, cut, cut, cut.
00:32:41
Speaker
And they're like I'm a confident man. I'm an adult man. I can grow a beard like you know what I mean like it's like that I felt like that was a thing a part of this movie like a subtle what was supposed to be like a subtle thing of like He's clean-shaven now by the end. He's growing some scruff. He's growing since you're gonna have easily he had a decent amount of facial hair. Yes Like he's like I lean into that more than stuff more than is anticipated. I think you're going like English teacher method. Probably. Yeah. But like, I mean, if you, I think in film, nothing is everything is there for a reason. Yes. That lady that taught us in, um, I don't remember her name because I blocked her out, but she's not wrong about that. Like nice person terrible. I did not appreciate that class. Did not love her. Did she give me a C because I didn't like the movie she recommended.
00:33:35
Speaker
yeah Oh, that was like the one that pissed me off. I remember I was- What movie did she recommend? Uh, like something Window. It wasn't Rear Window. No. Um, it was like our foreign film. And it was- I don't remember what your- Oh no, it was Cachรฉ. Yeah, it was. It was Cachรฉ, and there was like something with somebody saw something in a window. Yeah, and I remember it was like something involved. I remember her, she said, because you were like, I played tennis, like, and she got strangers on a train for the American film. Yeah. And that movie slaps. I remember it. Oh, so good. It's cop.
00:34:06
Speaker
But you know, I was literally like, I remember I was like, this is what happened. I didn't really like the movie. This is why I didn't like the movie. And it was like a decent paper. She gave me a C and I was like, why did I get a C on this? She was like, it's a good movie.
00:34:23
Speaker
I was like, but I didn't like it. Yeah. But you're allowed to like, there's literally people getting, somebody got paid from rogeriebrood.com to say, I hate, hate, hate did this movie. Which is like, so you can't give me a seat. I don't like my opinion. Like it was the paper bed. Oh, I feel you. I feel you. She, uh, I, uh, did. Oh dude. What was her name? No we're not goodnna teacher.
00:34:43
Speaker
We're not gonna say it. We can't say it. Do you remember her name? No, I don't. You know what I'm talking about. No, I know what you're talking about. Fuck that bitch. Fuck that bitch for sure. Oh my god, that was awful. But the film teacher, she...
00:35:01
Speaker
And for my paper, I had to write, it was for Close to Count as the Third Kind, which I loved. It was a great movie. And I wrote a paper and stuff and I pointed out a scene. I was like, oh, in this scene, the way the camera shot is and it's juxtaposed, what he's doing and what's on the TV screen behind him in the background and what's going on in the foreground, and she gave me points off. I got an A on that paper.
00:35:24
Speaker
but I could've gotten 100% on that paper, an A+, instead of an A, ah but like her note was like was like, didn't cite your source for this, and I like went to her and I was like, How am I supposed to cite my fucking brain? You're like, yeah, this is, I am the source. That was like, I was like, I was like, I didn't think you had to cite, like, like, I didn't have to put that comma 20, 20, whatever fucking year it was. I was like, and she was like, Oh, okay. And then never changed the grade. I was like, I was like, I still have an A I'm fine, but I was like, I would just want to let you know.
00:35:58
Speaker
I didn't look that up. the sea I thought that you, I was like, are you kidding? I was like, you really have that little faith in your students? Uh, I was looking too deep into the beard thing in your, in your opinion. I don't think the beard thing means that much. It just felt intentional.
00:36:19
Speaker
It just felt intentional to me as again, as someone that was laser focused watching. He put, I guess you're right, because I've never seen, I guess when you put that guy in the beard. Mm-hmm. Maybe. and Well, it's like Adam Scott and his two cronies. Big ol' full beards.
00:36:39
Speaker
and they're like talking to Major Tom throwing shit at him and stuff like all that like you know like they're like bullying him and stuff and he's like now I can be confident in myself I'm learning to be confident in myself and what does he do he goes in he goes fuck you here's negative 25 running I'm out I haven't even looked at it I'm out i always got a girl what's up baby let's hold hands as you walk down the street yeah that's That's where I come from with the beard thing. And for me, I was like, okay. like that i It felt kind of silly to me as someone who like started noticing like he's in Greenland, the beard is showing. He's in Iceland, it's getting bigger, and by the end, it's very noticeable. like it just like It was something I like tagged on to. And so if you look for it, you can be like, his beard progression is noticeable and seems significant.
00:37:36
Speaker
Is my point. I still think it is. It might not be, but like... It's fine. Again, it feels like it. That did not cross my mind during it. Because Patton Oswalt's very comfortable on himself and he doesn't have a beard. Not everybody needs that kind of confidence. I don't think Ben Stiller does either. No Walter Mitty does. That's what I was gonna say. That's what you say. Ben Stiller's fine. Ben Stiller's doing great. Watch Severance on Apple TV, dude. It's the best, dude.
00:38:06
Speaker
It's so good, you have to watch the show, we'll talk about it after. You have to watch it, it's so good. I'll give you my, pass I'll give you my password. Fuck you Apple, I'll share my password with you. Fucking watch it, it's so good, you're gonna love it. the And Adam Scott's in it without a beard, so it's great. good He won't be a douche. Oh, he's lovely.
00:38:27
Speaker
I don't think that much about the beard, but anyways. What else do you got? What else you got?
The Impact of Soundtrack in Film
00:38:33
Speaker
We also have, I don't know, ah I think, The soundtrack's fucking great. Okay. The soundtrack is awesome. It is... like... I was thinking about this on the way here because I didn't want to talk about it, but we're going to talk about it. Did you ever see A Walk in the Woods? About the book, what's his name? Bill Bryson? No. Okay, don't.
00:38:58
Speaker
ah With a it's a Robert Redford and that guy who's in a lot of movies as like not the main character But like is a good actor. Yeah. Yeah i never saw Or read the book For some reason doesn't he quit the AT. Yeah. Okay old people love that movie. I Walk in the woods old people love it. They love it oh, dude. They love it. They all love it like interesting cuz the first okay, so it's like I I walk in the woods, we're not talking about a walk in the woods, but it's like. No, no, no, no, no, it's all relative, dude. It kind of is. This is a stream of consciousness conversation about, about. I'm trying not to get too far in this, but like, I remember like after I finished the AT as family members, they were like, we got a walk wash in the woods. Like it's hilarious. You'll love it. I was like, okay. I read the book or I read half the book in, in viral science class or whatever. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I should probably read that book. Jones. Yeah.
00:39:52
Speaker
and i like we were watching it and i was just like
00:39:59
Speaker
This sucks. And like, they loved it. But the whole time it's kind of like that Lord Huron soundtrack. And it's like, oh, we're on an adventure, we're whimsical, blah, blah, blah. An AT movie with Lord Huron, that's pretty dope. It kind of like made the Lord Huron, kind of like the AT thing. But it's an awful movie. Yeah, it's bad.
00:40:27
Speaker
But then we were talking about like so Lord Heron was on the radio at like work and so someone was like, it makes me think of a walk in the woods. And I was like, this is a terrible movie. And then like the two old people that are like, that is a great movie. Robert Redford is hilarious. I only know old people that like that movie. I mean, yeah, Robert Redford's great, but going back to it and Lord Heron is also he's he's fine. um I feel like the soundtrack for Walter Mitty is like the whimsical adventure a nostalgic soundtrack that like the Lord Huron soundtrack wished it was.
00:41:07
Speaker
Oh, so you think the Walter Mitty soundtrack did better? Oh, way better than that one. Yeah, like Lord Heron is like fine, but it's it's bullshit. i This one, this soundtrack definitely added to, in my opinion, like the, like... Oh, like we're just going for it. Yeah. And the, they it also had like all the songs of like nostalgic value. Sure. Like any of those songs was like,
00:41:33
Speaker
And I do like music like like I do like songs that are I'm just like they kind of have like nostalgic air to them. Of course. Yeah. um But this was like I felt like well done. yeah Yeah. I mean like well like.
00:41:48
Speaker
I mean, there's literally an entire one of his daydreams is, uh, Kristen Wiig, Cheryl singing, doing karaoke of, uh, yeah. Space oddity. Yeah. yeah Like fucking gravity. Well, that part was, was kind of whatever, but the song, like I literally was listening to that on the way from work today to come here to do this. Cause I'm like, it's fucking David Bowie, bro. Well, like the arcade fire is a great addition into it. There's another one that's in there. Um,
00:42:17
Speaker
You know my opinions on Arcade Fire. Dude, separate the artist from the music. That is the song, that song that they picked is the right song for this movie. Yes. I'm not going to disagree with that. I feel like the soundtrack just nailed. Yeah. Justin was talking about the LA. Justin was talking about the LA. Justin was talking about the LA. Justin was talking about the LA. Justin was talking about the LA. Justin was talking about a the LA. Justin was great thing talking about to do when we were in Joshua. Like, yeah, he wasn't wrong about that. Yeah, I get that. I feel like the soundtrack for what the movie was trying to portray nailed it. Yeah, I think the soundtrack definitely elevated it to. For me, they like. Like if the soundtrack was bad, this would not.
00:43:07
Speaker
This movie would not hit. Yeah. I agree. I you know. Yeah. But again, like, but, but again, devil's advocate. Going back to that quote, a perfect nothing movie. It's like the soundtrack's good. Like everything's working, but like like a perfect nothing movie is like, it's I mean, yeah, it's cop out of a phrase. because like You can say that over a term. Oh, how was hanging out with Jacob? It was a perfect nothing of a hangout.
00:43:34
Speaker
Yeah, but you could be like, wow, that must have been a great hangout. Yeah, those are important. ah Exactly. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I get what you're saying. I understand now that you've refrated, like you put it in a different context. I feel like it's, I understand. I feel like it's a cop out of like, I just, I don't know. Oh, I liked it, but it was kind of cheesy. So I don't really want to say that I liked it because there's other things you can put holes in. I can't find the perfect way to Put it cuz like I mean you've even admitted. I thought the the flashbacks were cheesy but I think there's flashbacks the daydreams daydreams were Ridiculous yeah like not like but again that was part of the point and I get that they were like in my opinion with it you either have to have it be
00:44:18
Speaker
Mm hmm. Many. Mm hmm. But short. Yes. Real quick. Yeah. And this was like. Mm hmm. They were all like medium long. They were the one the Avengers one was way too long. Way too long. And so was the mountain one. And the mountain was was way too long. Yeah. But the the one with the the first one. The first one was fine when he saves the dog. And it's like, oh, it's her dog and stuff. I was like, what else is she? It's funny. Kristen Wiig.
00:44:47
Speaker
Yeah, we want ah multiple years on SNL. Okay. First of all, you're right but then she's in a, yeah okay. Hard sidebar, but like, I love this movie so much. Have you seen masterminds? No. With, uh, Zach Galifianakis and Wiig and, uh, uh, not, uh, yeah. Owen Wilson. Wow. That guy.
00:45:08
Speaker
Yeah. I know Owen Wilson. It's like the most famous person out of all that. I was saying Owen Wilson to make sure that I had the right guy in my, like I said, the right guy. And then Jason Zdegas. Have you seen that movie? I want to say I think I had that movie.
00:45:23
Speaker
is fucking awesome. It's about the guy who ah steals from the, uh, it's not Loomin, Loomis, Loomis, the people who like come to your, yeah come to your work and like just say yeah the cash and stuff. And he like, they're like, yeah, steal like $20,000 and he still is like a million dollars and stuff like, and everything. It's based on a true story. That movie fucking rocks. And she's great in that movie. I feel like I have seen that, but I can't remember anything about it. So I effectively haven't seen it. re, rewatch it. I rewatched it like honestly like last year for some reason. I think Austin was out of town. I was like, so you know what? I'm a fucking watch masterminds. Like why not? And I was like, this movie is a gym. It's not good, but it is exactly what you need. like Nothing of a movie. Yeah. So is that a bad movie though? Whoa. Holy shit. That's the thing. It's like, I don't disagree with what he's saying about it. I'm in a corner, but I don't know if that means it's a bad movie. No, I didn't say. Yeah, like, again, I don't know. I don't know what it is. I did genuinely come out like, again, I know I'm so like the whole point of this podcast is like, I'm supposed to take a position. You're like, I'm going to defend it. And I'm like, okay, so I'll attack it and stuff. But like, I genuinely would say like that movie discussion tonight. I know. But like, but like that's the whole point. Yeah, I get it. Like, I genuinely did come out of it being like,
00:46:51
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. I get it. Like, and like, and for me, it was like, it wasn't bad. It was interesting enough to like, keep me focused on like some other fucking dog shit I've had to watch for the show. But I just like, didn't, I immediately stopped thinking about it. yeah Immediately stopped caring. Like, if someone was like,
00:47:20
Speaker
Like I like what'd you do last night? I wouldn't be like did I watch to see your life walls ready? Yeah, it was so good with my wife. Yeah as She loved it. I thought it was all right. Like yeah, I was like I watched a movie and like whatever yeah, exactly it wasn't like it like I don't expect every movie to be like life-changing yeah anything but like like I just was like I i would you wish and I think people should watch it, yes. i think it's a good message I think people should watch anything we talk about on this movie.
00:47:52
Speaker
that i will not watch now Everybody should watch Rain of Fire. I wish I didn't. Yeah, it was not good. I watched first half of that and then turned it off and then we ended up watching that.
00:48:06
Speaker
you're like That was so funny that you were like, I guess we could do this. That was funny as fuck mistake. We were, we were very bored, but regardless, I just feel like everybody should watch this movie because they get their message across.
00:48:22
Speaker
I think it's a good message. And it's a good message. And it's an important message. yeah And people should live by that message, I
Perfect Nothing Movies: Entertainment vs. Depth
00:48:28
Speaker
think. People should just start. yeah people Just start. Just do it. Start doing what you want to do. Just do it. Whatever the idea of who you think you want to be, start doing the things that that person would do. Exactly. But I just like, I literally have only ever thought about it.
00:48:49
Speaker
for the today, I watched it. Soundtracks really good though. Monday night, did not think about it at all on Tuesday. Yeah, it doesn't stick with you. And then thought about it today.
00:49:01
Speaker
as I was listening to space oddity on the way home to do this podcast. I mean, all the way to the studio, the 10 foot studio that Neil was telling talking us about. Hey, get off your phone, PA. We're gonna have to talk. Um, but like, you know what I mean? Like, and I feel like even really bad movies and really good movies I like think about and I'm like, man, God, what a fucking,
00:49:27
Speaker
Piece of shit movie or I'm like damn that movie was dope like it like i I like it like comes up like you know what I mean like this one I was just I'm just like completely neutral on And so for me, I feel like it's like that's not good. I love bad movies. I love that. that's a thing I spent two hours saying it's completely neutral. It doesn't mean it's a bad movie. I see as a passing grade. i I understand. But like I spent two hours today at work talking to my coworker about a absolute dog shit fucking horror movie. My sister and I watched in like middle school. Yeah.
00:50:03
Speaker
because it just came up in conversation and I was like, oh man, that movie was crazy. I'm gonna tell you all about it. And I like told her all about this fucking movie for like two hours. And she like watched the trailer and she was like, what the fuck is this? This is insane. This is horrible. You like bad movies. Yeah. But I love bad movies. That's what I'm saying. Like this movie was like, if someone was like, have you seen the secret life of Walter Middie? I'd be like, yeah, the soundtrack is good. You should watch it. I guess I would be like, yeah, it's worth watching.
00:50:30
Speaker
Yeah, but like if they asked me anything more about it, I'd be like, ah just watch it. Like, you know, but just because you don't want to talk about it nonstop doesn't mean it's a bad movie. No, no, no. But like for me, like, that's like, you know me, I like to talk. I literally made a podcast. as I like to talk like I. So it it feels like this movie is the perfect movie for this podcast.
00:50:52
Speaker
if it was called bad movie discussion. I mean, even though like, even sure, but like it is one of those movies where it's like, I don't necessarily think it's a like, I'm not like, this is a great movie. Yeah. But I'm not like, it's bad awful movie. It's not rain of fire. I mean, yeah, it's not rain of fire. It's not rain of fire. It's not citizen Kane. Am I right? That's better than citizen Kane. All right. We're going to, we are going to do an episode. Dude, can we do Citizen Kane on bad movie debate? We can do it on a bad movie discussion. I will tear that thing up. Okay, so we'll talk about this later. I'm gonna be so pissed so I watch it again and I'm like, dude, that movie's so fucking good. Just like with Pan's Labyrinth. You're like, holy fuck! It's great. Oh, I am locked and loaded on that one. So you just let me fucking know. I've got a million things I can talk shit about that. Oh, re-watch it. Because you're gonna be like, well, it's the first time it would ever happen. Like, who cares? You have no idea. You have no idea the shit I have packed. Probably we'll get schooled. We'll get there. It'll be a while since Nick's currently on so we gotta spread out the the guest but we'll get there. But like I don't know I just feel like I guess I guess at the end of the day what I'm trying to say. Do you actually think it's bad though? No but I don't think it's good. And I'm with you on that. And I hate that.
00:52:11
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like it's ah it's a it's which makes me want to go like it's 49% instead of like true 50 Like we're looking at like and we're looking at a hundred percent like I Watched it and I was like it's 50% I think the scores are honestly a very accurate depiction of the movie I mean like yeah look at it on like a movie critic. level I'm shocked. It's a 7.3 on IMDB I thought this would be a 5.0 right in the middle. I thought an IMDb, it'd be more like a 6.1. People loved it. In my opinion, that means people watched it who were boring as fuck and don't have anything to put in their E-harmony. I don't know. It's the perfect.
00:52:55
Speaker
It's exactly what the what the reviews are. like If you're looking at it on the aspect of like, okay, like let's take a look and let's not think of it as a movie as entertainment, we're gonna be like, this is odd. yeah um Then like yes, it's gonna get bad reviews. like The the like overdone like daydreams, the plots, it's not really continuity. The soccer thing really. ruined the whole thing for me like honestly was so you were all in and then almost damn near the end of the movie you lost it yeah i really did lose it like i really liked the uh the longboard down the thing okay i'm not gonna lie i lowkey looked up like i was like you could go really fast buy a longboard really fast oh and also like i like him to buy a longboard kick flip on a longboard
00:53:43
Speaker
No, that that seems super hard. But as someone who doesn't know anything about it, I was like, that seems weird. yeah the um I'm sure someone can do a kickflip on a longboard. The longboard that was specifically in that movie, yes, maybe you do kickflip on it, but not a scenario. It's my longboard. And I used to skateboard. um dad Don't get it twisted. I thought the funniest thing was when she was on the phone and he's like, oh, dude, can I see your skateboard? That was awesome that was he but like that was something that was like kind of frustrating for me I was like so he Genuinely is like that's real that's happening. That's not daydream Yeah, because we're seeing it from in a third party perspective like she's in the foreground He's in the background yeah doing all this cool shit, and she's missing it and and stuff like and so like that's like as the viewer you're like oh wow like he is actually he's good with her daughter earlier her son whatever and i'm like that annoyed me because i'm like why isn't that on your e harmony bro that you can skateboard that you can like that you use 40 years old you put in your e harmony or a skateboarder at 40
00:54:52
Speaker
no dude yeah I'm not a skateboarder but like used to be into the scene he used to have a mohawk na yeah I'd leave that out too I don't know it just it bothered me being like being like it just bothered me being like this guy has skills besides his fucking job Not really I Don't know. I don't know do a cake flip is not a dateable. He didn't do a cake flip. He did so much more You know a bunch of other crazies just I do not know the names of those I could not I really could not stand out as be on a skateboard for more than 10 seconds before I fell off
00:55:26
Speaker
So I don't know. But yeah, and i would say it's one of those things where it's like, okay, you're looking at it as like this artistic, you know, Citizen Kane bullshit. sure You're like, yeah, this movie sucks. If you're looking at it just on like an entertainment value, I want to watch a heartfelt, like dreamy movie that like kind of gives you that wanderlust vibe. That's the exact movie to watch. Sure.
00:55:45
Speaker
But I don't know. I just don't know. I don't know. I think it's a fine movie. A perfect nothing movie. It depends on what you are. I think it also depends on the mood and what you're going into watching, trying to watch a movie.
Symbolism and Connections in Walter Mitty
00:55:58
Speaker
Just a perfectly fine mood.
00:56:01
Speaker
I was excited to watch this cause I knew like you and like, I knew you like cause you had seen this before. Yeah. Forever ago. And I remember you were like, you were like, yeah, it was a good movie. And then Justin literally on Sunday, the day before I watched it, I mean, yeah, but he was like, Oh, I love that soundtrack dude. That may be like slaps cause the soundtrack is so good and stuff, which he's right. It does. But I don't know. I was, ah I wouldn't say again, it's, it's so hard to put into words. I give it a 6.7.
00:56:30
Speaker
I'd give it, I'd give it a 5.0. So right in the middle. It's not good, it's not bad. Just a movie. It's just a perfect nothing movie. you can like Yeah, it is a kind of solid description. Some of my favorite movies are .2 out of 10 because they're just so bad. they're You can like laugh at them with a bunch of people, like get some drinks and like be like... maybe I'd rather watch a nothing movie than a genuinely bad movie though. it's ah ah Again, it depends on the context. that's ah I guess that's the preference.
00:57:06
Speaker
like i like do i want to watch like i know i don't know like okay so the movie i was talking to my coworker about today it's called drive-thru it's this horrible horror movie uh... and stuff like do i want to watch that by myself now it would be so fucking dumb the bat the villain but you can watch this one by yourself and get a great experience exactly that's what i'm saying like like out about movie i want to watch that one with fucking drive-thru with the the killer slasher masked killer is horny. The clown is the name of this fucking killer. Do I want to watch that movie by myself? No, you want to watch that with a group of people because it's absolutely insane. It's so ridiculous. And all you want to do is just crack jokes with your friends while you watch it.
00:57:51
Speaker
and stuff like but that's a but I love those kind of movies but like this movie I watched by myself and I was like it's fine I don't i i don't know how to put it I don't know what to say I do have one thing I want to say though real quick get to it that's completely off base of what we were talking about and we're gonna talk about the matrix a little bit okay but it's relevant to this maybe I promise yeah so when he gets to Greenland.
00:58:23
Speaker
Walter Minnie as soon as he gets there He goes to the red and the blue car the red and the blue car. Ah He took the red pill. He took the red pill. That's great. He chooses. I literally was like I was like, is this the matrix right now? And I was like, I was like, let me double check and like I googled and it was like, okay Yeah, the red pill is the one that like wakes him up and like tells him what's going on I was like, I was like, I don't want to get it twisted Blue pill is the one that makes you go like back sleep, and you just don't even know what's that He was like Keanu Reeves could have been like no I'm good and like well like he takes the red car cuz I was like cuz looking at those cars those little Fiat's I was like the blue one looks nicer He should take that one and then he takes the red one and I was like wait red and blue he takes the red Hold on hold on I looked at it. I was like there's no fucking way. That's not that's intentional What happens after he gets that car he starts fucking living his goddamn life. That's good like
00:59:20
Speaker
And that was dope, but I still think it's a 5.0.
00:59:28
Speaker
Isn't that crazy? There was a definitely intentional matrix decision in that. He was like, oh, do you have any cars left? And he was like, yeah, I've got blue and red. And he was like, I'll take the red. That's good. It's pretty wild.
00:59:45
Speaker
I like that. Isn't that wild? Yeah, we should end there. That's solid. That's really solid. we should i I'm curious to see what people think. I am very curious to see what people think. I don't think I can get past the 5.0. I don't think it's, I don't think out of 10, I'm at like, yeah, like a six and a half. Yeah. i I really hope when I put the, like the ah the poll up on instagram like that it's just straight 50 50 that would make me very happy because like that's what this movie is it's just a straight 50 50
01:00:21
Speaker
I don't know it depends on how you feel about it the red and blue is hilarious. It is hilarious really good. I was like that's a good. I was like I can't not mention that because never I like I like I again engaged in the movie I paused it googled looked it up. Do you want the one on it went on an entire like rabbit hole of the matrix like and stuff and it was like okay you took the red pill.
01:00:46
Speaker
Whoa. Came back to the movie and then, but by the end of it was like, okay, instead of being like, instead of the end of the matrix where you're like, yeah, this is amazing. You know? So it is what it is. Um, I don't know. So what? 6.4, five, it's worth watching. There's no doubt about that. Um, I think you get out of it. What you want. Like you said, like context is important.
01:01:12
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's a good like winter time. I feel like I'm stuck in a rut. I wanna watch it feel good. Yeah. um Travel movie. Yeah, if you wanna see beautiful locations in a movie, this is the movie, for sure. like It's beautiful the entire time, but like... Ew, it's just hilarious that it's Sean Penn. I was cracking up when I was like, that's fucking Sean Penn! When he's like... when he's like Oh, I'm trying to find Sean and he's on the fucking plane strapped in to the top of that plane to go shoot the volcano eruption. But you didn't know it was Sean Penn until the very... You didn't know it was Sean Penn, but the fact that you know the fact that you were like, the guy he's looking for is on this shitty little plane driving towards a volcano and he's just like standing on top, strapped in by his feet take to take photos. I was like,
01:02:08
Speaker
All right. I don't know. That was another one of those like, all right. But but then he won't take a fucking picture of a fucking snow leopard. But he'll do that. yeah Oh, that wasn't a good enough moment for you, bro. It's fine. It's fine.
Final Reflections and Audience Engagement
01:02:22
Speaker
I don't know. let Let me know what you think. Is it good or bad? I don't know. I'm gonna go with this. Nick gave the thumbs up. I'm gonna go with two thumbs up.
01:02:33
Speaker
it's like a was in spanish a csc like yeah it's not you see it's not bueno it's not mal it's a csc uh... yeah let me know put that shit up on uh... insta follow on insta and tiktok is apparently that's not gone whatever youtube uh... at bad movie debate all lowercase abby bad movie debate pod on tiktok uh... yeah that's pretty much it just uh...
01:03:02
Speaker
Well, I don't know. i I just follow me on there. Like, thanks for watching. like Thanks for the beer. I don't know. Oh, yeah. Of course, dry January. It's a damp January now.