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Red One with Neal McIntyre - An Avengers' Christmas
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Yeah yeah yeah, we're all over and done with Christmas because it's January, but we had to do this one! Watch/listen to Neal and I debate Red One! An Amazon produced movie that very much feels like it. A lot of money for a mid result. It is fun though. Tune in for our full thoughts!
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Introduction and Mock News
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um We interrupt your regularly scheduled programming to bring you some breaking news. There's been reports all over the area of something crazy going on, something big. People's homes, their minds even, are being taken over by something called... What is it they're calling it? They're calling it Bad Movie of Age!
Introduction of Guests and Studio Banter
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What up, nerds? It's Jacob Babb with Bad Movie Debate. We're here for another debate episode, a Christmassy one. We're a little late on Christmas. It's fine. It's fine. Still early January. It'll be fine. And this will be a fun one to talk about. Today, I have with me Neil. Say, what up? Hello. Thank you for having me.
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Not what up. I love the space. Oh, what's up? Hello. Gave you specific instructions. Oh, sorry. It's fine. What's up? There we go. Perfect. I'm already winning. yeah I'm already in your head. It's a good space to be in. This is, it's nice in here.
Debate on Amazon's 'Red One' and Chris Evans
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You can't tell from home, but we're in about a 20 foot, 20 foot studio. Yeah. The studio's huge, right? Jacob rinse out.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I do that well. These are all real books. all These are these are all real books. I can't say that. Yeah. The 20 foot space is pretty incredible. um Huge vaulted ceilings. Yeah. The the acoustics in here are insane. I had to tamper them down a bit and stuff. But OK, yeah. So we're going to do a regular debate. We're going to do Red One, the new Amazon Christmas classic. I'm here to pitch another Amazon movie. Well, the first one was Apple. Oh, it was Apple. It's a Chris Evans movie though. That's what it is. I'm here for my Chris Evans quota. I almost did for, as we're about to do the top five, I almost was like, maybe we should do top five Chris Evans movies, because this is the second one one that we've done. I i almost, I thought about it, but. Did you have some already in mind? Yeah. Making like some kind of like graph of like, cause in this movie, he's such a, he's such a dirtbag. He's like the biggest piece of shit. ah He's been I think yeah, any but I mean still he's still a good person in the end, but like Some of the stuff he said they go through a lot larry is yeah but They go through a lot for him to be a good person and he's called himself a degenerate Yeah, point he is he's a deejin making like a chart of like because in the other movie He's just like such a like a
Captain America and Recent Film Highlights
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simp. He's a he's a he's like a preppy like a simpleton Oh, yeah, he's like, you know every meaning of the word
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On which side does his character fall? Because Captain America is kind of like in the middle. He's like we're talking about D and&D a little bit. He's ah he's lawful. Good. Yeah, I would say. Yeah. Captain America. Yeah. Like he's always like this is the law until, well, until, you know, to the detriment until until they're not. But it's true. We're not talking about all the Marvel movies right now.
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He's very loose with his moral code sometimes. It happens when he becomes the no man or whatever. When he comes out of the shadows and he has that beard and everybody gasps. That's true. Because he looked gorgeous. Bearded cap was a game changer. Bearded cap was amazing. I think everybody was shocked. That's true. In that one. He's a US agent. I think he kind of has a beard now too. Yeah. Yeah, US agent. He's got to have.
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man. It's a part of it. I'm excited for that. I like I like him. I think he's a good character. I think it'll be interesting to see with the was it the Thunderbolts? Yes. Yeah. I'm excited for that. That'd be good. Florence Pugh leading the team. Love her. Yes. no oh Anything with her. I'll watch. Did you go see Oppenheimer IMAX? Oh yeah.
00:03:17
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Fucking awesome. Fucking great movie. 40 foot tall, horns pew. Yeah, pretty great. Couple scenes, although you also got the Killian scene where he's like in with his his cross. That was a lot. That was a lot. he it was i It was it was it was.
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It was a very rollercoaster scene. in see Emotionally. and i no i that was a way I was sitting there in the uncomfortable IMAX seat. I was like, we got God on this one. because It's just conversation. We got God. Yeah, it really is. um But it was fine. I mean, explosion was cool. Yeah. Well, it's sweet. IMAX wise, but and yeah. like All of that boiler yeah you didn't know They set off a few he didn't get there in time to stop them yeah damn that's too that's fuck thelarious ah but Much like Oppenheimer red one I think will go down as a movie of all time really as far as it existed it exists but it's very fun It happened. I think
Christmas Action Movies and Classics Discussion
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it's good. I'm here to argue. It's good
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um so the planes but It's worth seeing more. So what I recommend can I argue that I mean, yeah, I mean that makes first Christmas movie goes it's very Christmas Yeah, I will say I will put a disclaimer out I did already do a quick review on social media that said I enjoyed it So yes, so I will disclaimer for that but nobody come yelling at me like like i said I didn't watch that. I'll pretend like i did that's fine. I didn't know his thoughts coming in Fair enough. um So what what did we get? We went with ah Christmas action thrillers as our top five. You want to go through your top five? ah You immediately texted me one. You're like, so like this one? And I was like, yeah. Dyerd is number one. yeah So that's obviously everyone's favorite yeah action Christmas movie. It's the classic. Takes place during Christmas. I will say this one, it's still about the spirit of Christmas. This one is arguably more about Christmas. we but
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You know, if you start talking about Christmas movies like... Is Die Hard About Christmas? I don't know. It was released in July. But the whole soundtrack is Christmas songs. Exactly. It's pretty hard and they're not to say it's a Christmas movie. They're pushing it. It's like, it's there. It's right there. But July, anyways.
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Okay, so I'm actually gonna put my first one is the Grinch because the Grinch Christmas II It's kind of a slapstick. Are you doing the Jim Carrey? Yeah. yeah jim a snapcha comedy Yeah There's action in i know there's action scene yeah action climax where he's trying to stop ya The sled. Yeah. Yeah. And it's much more intense and thrilling than like the original ah animated one and everything. So I'd argue that. Yeah. I'd say live action Grinch. Great Christmas would be about Christmas about Christmas. Of course. They live in a paradise also. Yeah. war
'Home Alone' and Action Comedy Genre
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Yeah. so Sounds incredible. Yeah. They live in a snowflake. The worst day was two hours long. Yeah, it was the Grinch being a dick for a little bit. And then in the end, he's on their side. He's like, you know what? Yeah, all right. And they're like, great. And now he's their enforcer, basically, because he's so strong. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Do you want to go back and forth? No, no, no, no. You give me the whole list, your whole list. Home Alone, again, it's an action comedy with a kid in it. Spoiler alert, that's on that's on my list, because i was goingnna I was ready to argue, like, it's action. It's action. It's action. Absolutely. yeah Well, the the whole thing is,
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There's not much like story. No, it's mostly about he sort fighting for his life. And it's mostly about them getting. guy And then kind of fighting for their life. Oh, they're 100 percent fine. We're talking about it a few weeks ago. ah Brett was talking about. ah The have you seen the ah youtube video where somebody like it's like home alone with blood and stuff somebody like edits where all the blood and Yeah, and it's just his brain just explodes. Yeah, it's that's what would happen. and They see steps through a nail, right? Is that that one? Yeah, that's he steps through a nail. I as a kid I remember being like that was envisioning that and I hated that that's like one of the most horrifying things in the entire movie So yeah, that's an action movie Yeah yeah
Critique of 'Jingle All the Way' and Commercialization
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Fuck that they kept coming back for more and they did they just could would not stop which is but homer have known about home question but even vision yeah how far we um i put Okay Jingle all the way nice. That's a great nice very funny. Mm-hmm Maybe not ahead of its time, but like it holds up. It's very satirical. Yeah, I would say it holds up. still you know We have Sinbad as a mailman and stuff, which was hilarious. but then So ah Savannah, like Savannah Lane, Kyle's wife, ah we did a Christmas episode. She was like one of the first Christmas episodes, and we did that movie. but And um I'm bringing it up again because it's still just so crazy. he makes Sinbad, as a mailman, makes a Unabomber joke.
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And I looked it up and talked about it in this episode. The Unabomber, when this movie came out, was still at large and they made a Unabomber. He was like, I got a package. It's bob like talking about like and mentions the Unabomber to get out of that once like when he's getting confronted by the cops or whatever. out there Yeah, whatever he says, he does some shit. And it's just like I was like, this is insane.
'The Santa Clause' and Christmas Technology
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Like this man is still at large. This isn't like we tell the cops, he's like, get back, get back. There's a bomb in this. And then it's insane. He walks away and it it actually blows up.
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Yeah, it's insane. ah So just had to mention that. But you can go all the way. Very obviously, I'm sure you're a comedy about Christmas. And Arnold being a great dad, always being the best dad. um And then I had I didn't know exactly which one to pin it down to. But i think you got to shout out the Santa Claus movies.
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the uh tim allen yes oh yeah because when he's up in the north pole that's also very similar to how like their north pole looks in this room yeah which i love the the christmas technology yeah the christmasology the christmas aesthetic of just like you know Although they had little children pretending to be like 100 year old elves. Yeah, which again is fine. This movie uses like gremlins like weird. Yeah, you use gremlins and goblin giant trolls and shit like. Yeah. All right. The talking polar bear is
Critique of 'Red One' and Dwayne Johnson's Performance
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amazing. ah I'll argue that all day. the Garcia yeah Garcia that polar bear giant polar bear talking named Garcia. The whole incredible.
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The whole world they set up with red wine is just so awesome. yeah So I guess, I don't know. do we Did we just start on that? Did you want to tell me your movies? Oh yeah, I'll tell you mine. I'll give the Rotten Tomatoes scores and all that.
Exploration of 'Batman Returns' as a Christmas Movie
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And then, as always, the ah good quote, bad quote from the reviews, which is one of my favorite things in the entire world. yes So we've got, for me,
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die hard obviously well ground right here's one here's one's gonna throw you for a loop batman returns okay you know i'd kind of thought about that because they are set i would say it's christmas literally set in christmas time that's like part of the whole point that's why the penguins doing what he's doing like he does it specifically that time of the year for a reason well because he's a penguin it's gotta be cold it's gotta be cold yeah exactly and it's like but then they add like all the like Like he does like all the like Christmas present type stuff. You know what I mean? Like as like a part of his like lunatic lunatic, like like and but like zany kind of like. Here's my crazy. You got to love a showman. Yeah, showman is a showman. He is. He's going to make a deal about it. I do. I need to watch the new penguin ah show.
Audience vs Critics: 'Red One' Reception
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Yeah. Dude, the show is. I heard it was incredible. Really good. But also Batman two has been moved to twenty twenty seven. OK.
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and a buddy at work was like, yeah, probably cause the penguin show was so good. And they were like, fuck, we got to bring him back. So we got to rewrite everything that we've been working on. And I think that makes sense, but I'll watch. So the Batman, like the Batman. Yeah, like a bat and sin, as it were. Something and in the way. Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:22
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um So then I got Home Alone, as I said, I would. um And then I got a couple that are a little more. They're not a little more. They're 100 percent more horror than action. But Krampus, just to the one with Adam Scott. And so good. Way better than it had any reason to be yeah um for a Christmas horror movie with like a heavy supernatural element. Absolutely loved it. And then Black Christmas, the original Black Christmas. I've not seen Black That's like a serial killer like comes in like just kills a bunch of co-eds like on Christmas and stuff. It's cream classic. Yeah. Very like, yes. He wear a costume. <unk> It's been a while. No, I don't. I may be in one scene. It's been a while since I've seen it, but it's like just a guy. Did Tyler Perry not do a black Christmas? No. A very media Christmas.
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yes So, you know, arguably. it um So we got ah so the Rotten Tomatoes score on this 31 for the critics. See, harsh. I think that's pretty harsh. It's pretty harsh. Audience, though, 90. The popcorn meter, it's like certified popcorn meter, ah which is who are they were crazy. The reviewers names and email addresses. we'll get to get ah I am DB 6.4, which right down the middle, which every movie always is. Yeah, six point four makes more sense. I wonder who is it people that went to the theater to see it or people who watched at home? Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, like I rewatched it last night at home and it was less enjoyable at home.
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already have seen, yeah I would say, you know, seeing it, obviously a theater
Humorous Critique of Film Reviews
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experience is the best. And I watched this maybe three times in the past like a few days. Wow. Yeah. ah That's pretty funny. I'm glad it was an hour and a half. I'll say that because we watching Ghosted twice or two and a half times. i Yeah. Skip through. It was it's easy to skip. There's a lot going on. I did that one was ah an action thriller in the sense that it never slowed down. It didn't take any breaths, which this movie did. So that arguably makes it a little bit better for sure. The Metacritic, the critics score thirty four. The user score of five point six. Pretty, pretty even. Pretty, pretty standard. I think it's rock fatigue. Yeah, it could be because the thing is, he was actually pretty good in this. I know. Which is he actually like felt like a character. He tried about the rock. Yeah, I felt like he actually tried in this one.
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which is not something this movie is I mean I get I wish I had gone through and read why some of these people oh yeah ill hear your good quote bad quote all right good quote um this comes from Amy Nicholson for the Washington Post quote this a good question know just get break awesome we love her so smart um ah So this is quote the looseness feels refreshing a nod to the kind of giddy sloppy 1980s flick this wants to be a Child pleaser that will live on forever in a back bedroom while the grown-ups do their boring adult chitchat on the living room couch end quote right So she's like a perfect thing to put on for the kids. Yeah, well Like while all the cousins are over
'Red One' and Audience Expectations vs Reality
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yeah for Christmas and you guys can go yeah watch NPR and go watch npr Talk about scream at each other about politics or whatever and they're just having a great time watching this movie be a serious Christmas movie So this one the bad quotes are always so fun ah Zachary Lee for Roger Roger Ebert comm Quote it's all gaudy wrapping with no substance end quote
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My favorite ones are always the ones that are just one sentence. What? All gaudy rap. It's just all gaudy rapping. It just looks real pretty. You thought of that before you went in. You didn't even, you posted that before you watched the movie. yeah What did that even mean? Yeah, what does that even mean? Red One was not wrapped as a fancy movie. They should. It's snowmen fighting on a beach in the trailer. In, in, uh, Bora Bora. Yeah. Where it's real hot it cro and they're not melting. Yeah. It's, it's a whole, it's a whole thing. Um, so.
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So again, as always, the bad quotes are my favorite because they're always so harsh. you I forget who I was talking to about
Discussion on 'Dune Part 2' and Sci-Fi Appeal
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maybe Amelia on her episode where it's like the bad ones are always so fun because it's like, who hurt you? Like what? Why are you so upset? Like you went to a Chris Evans Rock movie about Santa and kidnapped and you came out appalled, offended. Yeah, it's not. Yeah.
00:15:51
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Exactly, dude. Wasn't Dune 2, dude. It was bullshit, dude. That is a sick movie. Dune Part 2 is fucking incredible. it's definitely It's definitely up there. I've watched that one many times since it came out. I recently was able to get a hold of a 4K copy, so now I'm going to do a 4K back-to-back watch sometime in the near future. because ah it's ah It made me appreciate the first one more, actually. oh yeah Made it less boring.
00:16:12
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That's what I told everybody. I was like, like Nick and Aunty, Aunty hates sci-fi. She just hates it. Like she doesn't even like Interstellar. Yeah, she doesn't even like it, which is insane. There's a lot going on in that movie. I could see you wouldn't like it. Just for her. It's it's just sci-fi in general, just not her thing. She just like can't get into it. But Nick forced her to watch Dune and then they went and saw Dune part two. And she was like, that shit was not bad, actually. So there you go.
00:16:36
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That's just a good argument for that. Approved, not bad. Approved, not bad by Antene who ate sci-fi.
Importance of Watching Sequels Back-to-Back
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So if you were debating on if you should watch Dune, you should. Yes, not bad. By someone who doesn't like him. Yeah. I thought it was good. I try to tell people. I fucking tell everybody. Because people are like, I found the first one boring. I was like, yeah, but honestly, you don't even need that much of the information of the first one. Yeah. Just watch the second one.
00:16:58
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Yeah, it's way. It's very interesting. Yeah. I mean, it pick up you and it's entertaining. Yeah, it picks up at a really good point, too. Yeah. All the like early stuff's done. But like I said, it does make me appreciate the first one more. Yeah, I went back and I was able to watch it. I in my opinion, I think now that both parts are out, the only way to watch it is to do a Lord of the Rings kind of a thing and just watch both back to back. And you'll be like, yeah, this one.
00:17:21
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four and a half hour long movie is incredible. Yeah, because that's how Lord of the Rings is. It's like that 12 hour movie is amazing. We watch all three extended watch just the first one. But you've got to watch the third one. If you watch homes deep out, exactly. Are you kidding? I'm going to stop here. You're going to stop there. No, you're not. No, of course you're not. Also, Harry Potter, Deathly Hallows, part one and two.
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Yeah, you have to watch those. That's one back to back. Yeah, that's just one. Maybe you're just watching the
The Rock's Superhero Abilities in 'Red One'
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first half of that. You are a psycho. You're an absolute lo thing. No, 100 percent. i How you're like, I'm a little more one. Fuck it. You know, it's over. It's over to just just. cut out of same maybe just watch you've been war without end game Oh my god, at least you gotta watch Thanos get his head caught for the beginning then you could maybe end in game I guess that's pretty cool. Yeah, you could just fix it all they fix it all Don't watch the rest. You don't have to watch the other two hours and 15 minutes that would did have the gyms on them and they fixed it and and they fixed it No problem matter
00:18:17
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Like, yeah what are those scenes about ah when Chris Evans, when Captain America is all old? Doesn't matter. Yeah, that's post-credits scene, dude. It's just an old man sitting on a bench. Everything's fine. And you think this is unrelated. The Rock is a superhero in this movie. He is. He legitimately is. is made is a and this movie du Oh my god, that's so fucking funny they' still using
AI in Movies and Amazon's Scriptwriting
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AI to write their movie scripts and assemble the cast I think so by Amazon so yes when I went to go watch this when I went to go watch this movie on Amazon last night I was scrolling for it ah thinking it would still be near the top but they're like Christmas is over get it off the front so I was scrolling and it literally said like like
00:18:56
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try an AI based search based on other things you've watched and I was like okay and then I was like was like nope not gonna do that and just went and searched for red one and was like so yeah AI helped write this movie there's no doubt in my mind uh to like like let's say quote unquote clean it up like some like it felt very similar to ghosted yeah which also every role maybe if you hit it's like a minimum number of lines they had to make you a face someone has
Supporting Characters and Miscasting in 'Red One'
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seen before Yeah, if it's like oh you've hit and you've been on screen for 15 seconds, and you've spoken twice we have to make you You know the waitress from always sunny. You're now the wife. Yeah, exactly you know exactly which is love love seeing and them get roles. Yeah, but it's just Ghost is the same way any random one-off. care Oh my god that like that entire sequence of the different the different ah
00:19:45
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Their pocket is coming. I think their pockets are just so deep, they're like, who cares? This fucking Amazon, yeah. Dwayne, allegedly, Dwayne the Elf Johnson in this one. Dwayne the Elf Johnson. Was given 50 million, paid 50 million dollars. Yeah, oh yeah, the budget for this was 250 million dollars. A lot of the reviews we're talking about, like, were like, how the fuck did this movie cost 250 million dollars and be this trash? Is basically what a lot of the bad reviews were. This guy's gotta be siphoning some of this off.
00:20:09
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to himself or oh a hundred say he's pocketing anything went down like i guess did you say he is his fuck money doesn't matter yeah but exactly the rock but chris dwayne dwayne the l ah johnson right amazing um what's what's a a What's one thing, is one thing I like to do too. So you're saying it's good, I'm saying it's bad. That's our stance. I'm saying it's worth watching. You're saying it's worth watching, I'm saying it's not.
Character Arcs and Redemption in 'Red One'
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um What is something you- That's a tougher argument, we'll do good. It's fair. Yeah, we'll do good. what um What's something you didn't like outright? Because I have something I do like outright about this movie, something I was surprised by. Didn't like.
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um
00:20:55
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Because honestly, the movie's so quick. yeah it's not stretch not to like other than like It could be literally anything. predictable yeah predictable kind of oh ah Well, no, that's just super nitpicky, I guess. Hey, it can be nitpicky. I thought the guy, the beef stew that came up at the beginning was funny. The beef stew is funny. But then he started doing like a Tim Robinson impression. He was. Yeah. Did you notice that? Yeah, he went. He slipped into his whole thing. I was like, slip straight into a I think you should leave. Yeah, absolutely. Which was.
00:21:29
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Really fucking weird. It was yeah funny. I think they probably thought they'd get Tim Robinson to do it. That might have been the idea. And he was like, no, because that dude kind of looked like him and like he did the boys. Honestly, that's exactly what happened. No, you're 100 percent right. He was supposed to. They wanted him for this role. I assumed. Why would he say no? Yeah, why would he say no? It's an Amazon movie. We'll pay him a bunch of money. He's super big. We'll steal. We'll steal him for from Netflix real quick and stuff like he can do that. I said yes, but I mean, he's probably just busy. and so Yeah, just probably like crazy or just straight up was like, no, I don't want to do that. Yeah, no, I'm yeah like, I don't want to play that annoying as fuck
Magical Elements and Christmas Lore in 'Red One'
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character. True. Which was cast into like. Yeah. He feels like a guy that's going to do just his own stuff. His whole career. Well, he's in something coming out on HBO.
00:22:13
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which looks really good yeah with ah paul rudd i yeah i have no idea if he's writing it or anything i think he's i don't know if he's writing it but i probably it's like a serious hand in it kind of a serious role they're good at doing those like borderline serious well that's the thing too i feel like he'll he's probably oh yeah that's true i think he probably You know, probably a lot of a improv coming from him that's making it into it, not to the level of like Ryan Reynolds in ah like that pool where it's like he gets a writing credit because they he improv so much that got it like and stuff. But like he's probably improving a lot of his lines in that. I'm happy for him. I'm it looks good. I'm all for it. yeah He's a funeral home.
00:22:50
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something So you don't like that Tim Robinson
Santa Claus Portrayal and JK Simmons
00:23:09
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as kind of guy. That's just something that kind of threw you off. That's so nitpicky. Yeah. Oh, it's fine, dude. No. The beef like stew I thought was kind of funny. The beef stew part. Like what he was doing is he was going to put on this shirt and say beef stew. Like the whole bit. And that is the whole like they're saying the 80s, 90s like Christmas movie thing. Oh, it's like just little one off jokes. Just shove in the movie full of jokes. I like that. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. A lot of comedies don't do that anymore. No. It's just constantly trying to make you laugh at something. That's something. Yeah. And I think. I think that works.
00:23:36
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Yeah, maybe that's but there is a bit of no, I don't know. See, the thing I was going to say, it might take itself too seriously, but that's what makes it even better is the fact that the rocks entire personality and like identity is Christmas. Yeah. And the naughty he is Chris. He's so obsessed with it. So he does a job of this playing like, yeah, this guy. Yeah. He's point where I don't think they took a character and forced the rock into it. No, he was really good for who he is. I think he Callum drift. Yeah, I feel like he did a really good job. It's shocking how good like that's what part of like what that one of the things I do like ah is like I think the rock, which we haven't seen in a while, actually play not just himself, but actually playing
Playful Take on Holiday Myths in 'Red One'
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a character like they got a big strong dude like the rock to play this, which makes sense. Very funny. But he's actually good. Like he's actually like some of the shit he says is hilarious, too. Like and he because he's good at comedy like delivery in certain situations. yeah he he nodd later on he knocks out one of henchmen and he says good tidings like yeah that's great that's 80 schlock like yeah like he's just given the rock face the whole time yeah he's got the the one eyebrow up yeah like pretty much the entire movie you do that really well something like that thank god I got video now see my something like that but then I also liked how um
00:24:58
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other uh like it wasn't just about santa and christmas like crampus is in there the christmas witch is in there from like nordic countries and stuff like yeah putting all those in there in the narrative i was like that's pretty cool it was totally unexpected i was like okay i was like who the fuck is going to be stealing santa i was like obviously that's the whole point of the movie like you go in knowing that he's going to be stolen his god-like powers Yeah ceiling is like god-like powers for even nefarious purposes and stuff and I was just like I was like, holy shit Yeah, I like the I can't remember the name. I don't think I wrote it down the The name of like the organization like when Chris Evans first shows up They have the the headless horseman and then stuff that Lucy Lou Mora. Yeah, it's It's like mythological organization for retaining some shit like that. But I was like, I was like, honestly, you could make a whole franchise. Yeah,
Fantastical Elements and Christmas Legends
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absolutely. Lucy Lou plays that character so well. Lucy Lou could come in and just do. I just wrote Lucy Lou as a professional. Yeah, she's because she fucking kills it. Yeah, she was amazing.
00:26:10
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that she's on on that shit and I'm like if you could just get her do one day of filming to do all those parts when they have to talk to her she has to like yell at whoever it's like don't get the rock back obviously that he's a Christmas guy and stuff then you can do like so you can do so many different ah holidays where it like based in this world and like that would like be pretty they have to go like yeah like like one's like a like so this is like a a kidnapped movie like a kidnapping thing you could do some kind of like like a heist or like somebody you have to pull off some kind of heist to save a holiday for some or some shit like that that would be awesome I'd watch those they gotta bring back Jack O'Malley
00:26:46
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god He's a piece of shit. i did write Adult him is an out, I said i wrote down a Jack O'Malley is a little piece of shit trying to ruin Christmas for the other kids. Way too smart for his own good. And then I, and then i ah adult him is also a total piece of shit. He's such a piece of shit until the very end. we can talk all right if we're just goingnna get rid of the stuff we didn't like Oh no, now we're just talking.
00:27:12
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Horrible father. The worst father I think I have ever seen in a major production in a very long time. Like literally when he drops him off and the mom's like, Hey, can you, he's like, we hung out. Yeah. We talked in the car ride. Yeah, we the literally he shows up hungover shit yess like yeah, he goes I gotta to get something in my belly Yeah, it's like you want to churro and he's like give me two churros.
Chris Evans' Character Transformation
00:27:35
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I don't want so I did one one I know yeah, he's like oh I have to do this ah um' I get I understand the part where he's like he's like oh i got in trouble for like changing my absences and stuff and he's like telling him how he's got to be more careful while accessing mainframes and leave no trace and stuff like okay that's fine i get it come back parent but then he's like but then he's like yeah i have to go do this slash stupid pageant thing yeah i guess and and he's like he's like oh that sucks good luck with that bye like like not realizing like his wife has to call him and be like or his ex-wife has to call him and be like
00:28:09
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Obviously he was inviting you to that. And once you there, you piece of shit. And he's like, fuck you talking about? He should have said that. He's like, no, that sucks. Yeah, no I don't want to go. at Like, you know, and in true movie fashion, it was the one time where he's literally unable to go anywhere because he's. Oh, yeah, he's in Germany. germany He's in Germany, leaving ah Bavaria, like leaving the whole Krampus scene, which is pretty wild. supposed to be there yeah that was yeah i didn't understand i'll say like the whole snow globe thing was just obviously very cheap like greela greela the villain good name apparently he's an Icelandic yeah i looked into her a little
Plot Twists and Unique Christmas Genre
00:28:47
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bit more because i didn't know i known for stealing children yeah possibly to eat them possibly eat them very Krampusy too cra like that's why they dated for a while according to this movie
00:28:56
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uh but it's just very basic yeah also kind of Thanos yeah this is secretly an Avengers movie yeah it's somehow made a Christmas Avengers movie this is it yeah and because the Rock is Ant-Man so let's talk about that let's talk about that Rock has Ant-Man powers yeah so is this tiny version his true self and the big version is like the power you know the other way i don't know because living up there there's a christmas village at the north pole yeah with uh all like him but also there's a bit bit where he's like he uh chris evan says something about how like
00:29:35
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Oh, are you like an elf or like, ah're like, is he says something along the lines of that where he's like asking him what he and he's like, it's like, do I look like a human to you? yeah Do I look human? Do I look human? That was a very classic rock. Yeah, exactly. But then he also when he's talking to Santa, ah played by the incredible JK Simmons, Jack JK Simmons, which.
00:29:55
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maybe a little too jacked very jacked very jacked and uh yeah but i digress look out for your heart jk don't do steroids yeah exactly we need we
Immortal Characters and Film's Universe
00:30:05
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need you we need you we can't have the old men that are left to be in movies we're dwindling down Yeah, we're we're losing every every year. We can't lose you now. You have too much too much to do. There's not that many alpha grandpas left. Exactly. A lot of lovable teddy bear grandpa. Yes. We need the. Yeah. Mean old man. Yeah. And we need him to be Clint Eastwood. He's next to go. Jimmy Carter was and then Clint will be soon after we'll be soon. Yeah, it's inevitable, which sucks. But we also we we need fucking JK for a fucking Spider-Man dude. Yeah. He's the only one who can play fucking J.J. James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James James I James was like how old is Santa?
00:31:15
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Millions, thousands of years old, not millions, I guess. Thousands and thousands. Thousands of years old. Has to be thousands and thousands. Because obviously he's not human. The lore they've built up is hilarious. Yeah. Because it doesn't make any sense. There's like trolls. the I don't weird monsters carrying around. I don't understand.
Worldbuilding and Mythical Elements in 'Red One'
00:31:32
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I tried to look that up. I looked up like Christmas trolls and Christmas. And now when you look that up, you just get a bunch of AI images. on Yeah. where's What the hell?
00:31:40
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Yeah, but. um I was trying to figure out like white legend that was from that. Yeah. Big rock gnomes or golems or whatever they would carry around presence. But that being said, give me more of that. Yeah. Give me I need to know why. Who are they? Where do they come from? What is the thing? Never seen an elf like that. No. Yeah. It was it was weird with the weird like their ears or whatever. likes Yeah. It's just ah guy a very, very like Star Wars. The look at the guys. I guess they're just trying to be a.
00:32:10
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Marvel. They're just trying to get. Yeah, they're just trying to shoehorn in any element of a franchise. like Maybe they are planning on franchising this with the whole Mora thing. Red one. Yeah. Red two. Red three. Red four. So red. So furious. Something like that. Yeah, exactly. The rocks already there. That's true. It's perfect. Callum in.
00:32:33
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was calum and jack uh yeah jack jack o'mally the wolf the wolf total scumbag total scumbag he's such a piece of every chance he got too early on to be a scumbag he just took it oh well i just love to that gets better off without me yeah he's probably like a hundred percent a hundred percent here i mean yeah you know it's obviously like a it's a self-deprecating thing from him it's like but i don't think there's Like that's a self-deprecating thing, but I don't think it's self-awareness. I think it's just, oh and he just sucks. Yeah. You know know, he had to go through a lot to change so i don't and it actually get the Christmas cheer in him. The no dad thing. What do you mean? So they say is no dad. They're like, Oh, you found that out. You found Santa's not real. How come you can't find your dad? Oh yeah. Well, you find your own dad. Like later on, I thought it would like tie back in at some point that he didn't have a dad.
00:33:24
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were like he was always good at searching for people because he's trying to find his dad and they just never talk and he never finds him and he's and he is a piece of shit at the very end when the rock or sorry calum drift looks at jack o'mallie and he sees him as a kid yeah i thought he was going to be like Oh, shit, I know where your dad is. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, we could like. Over Vietnam. Yeah, whatever happened. No, no, no. He just he's like. And then Santa's like, are you are you seeing it
Jack O'Malley's Redemption Arc
00:33:54
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again? It's like, wait, so if you love Christmas, you see everyone as children. Well, if you're like some kind of magical elf train and stuff, it feels like he was there kind of like psychic vampiring a little bit. Oh, 100 percent spirit of Christmas. Oh, 100%. There's definitely psychic vampire energy throughout this entire thing. And that's not even that's not even the Christmas witch. Like, that's true. Yeah, she does. But like, it's not just her, which is weird, I think. Oh, wait. Yeah. So she's Thanos. She's 100% Thanos. So he's I don't know if he's Ant-Man. if that's actually his true form or not. Because he gets toys and then he can do his little thing and he says something like it brings it to reality or it makes it real.
00:34:44
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it's like okay so which version of you is real because you're like six five and huge but then when you're fighting the the nick crawls henchmen you like shrink down shrink down and do antman shit and that's just really weird saying like her i don't know and he and he's an elf kind of something there's again again I don't iron this out don't understand too I hope to be just a really deep dive into
Christmas Spirit and Character Impact
00:35:10
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the last 10,000 years of Santa Claus yeah I mean I need a lot more what they've been up to or 2000 years I don't know how far back it goes yeah the monsters Krampus was great yeah that was that actually looked really good and that was like mostly costuming and stuff because there's a Tons of CGI throughout this entire movie to the point where it is kind of nauseating, but that whole thing was pretty was pretty Practical costuming and like all that kind of stuff Which was cool, and I think the guy who whoever it is that played Krampus was funny and did a good job So I like that i played torment dry in Spain in Game of Thrones. Oh, I mean that that makes Kristoff I couldn't pronounce his last name. I wrote it down. It's like huge big big It might be easy to say, it's like HIV, IJ, something like that. its awesome like find Christoph. and Yeah, I'm pretty sure. That's pretty dope. Christopher, whatever. Whatever his name is. Tormund Giants. You did a good job. job That was one of the highlights to me. That was a highlight. Because that's when like the movie could have gone many different directions once they're at the low point.
00:36:10
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yeah the emotional low, and they go to see Krampus, and he's just over the top. He's living with, that's on my other page. Also, I gotta to say, my notes are my urgent now, I had no paper, and the urgent now is when I got bit by a brown recluse a couple months ago, so adult insect bites. So that's all
Humorous Critiques and Entertainment Value
00:36:34
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I had for paper, and I spilled coffee on it apparently at some point.
00:36:38
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That's hilarious. I was going to say ah elf, which stands for enforcement, logistics and fortification. Yeah, which they really they forced that really forced health in there. Yeah. What does he say? Like he had some other one like. Oh, yeah, there was another code ah something something about being strong, you know. Yeah. He's got to talk about how strong he is. It's the rock. It's it's it's probably in like the do I look human? Yeah. That was a WWE shout out. Yeah, exactly. Do I look human to you? but ah Nothing about cooking though. Shockingly. Cal's entire world is built around the naughty and nice list. ah He is possibly stunted. like You might be a little bit emotionally you know stunted from the fact that I can't understand like a gray area doesn't seem. Yeah, he's like he's very naughty. li Yeah, he's very he's very black and white and like he really sees because like when we first meet him ah actual Santa is at the mall ah with beef the beef stew scene and stuff like and he's seeing he's seeing like people steal stuff. He's seeing people like get into physical altercations because it's Christmas time that one woman screaming on the phone like about essential oils not just going to murder someone because they're out and stuff and he's just like these people are all absolute trash and it's like
00:37:56
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It's like, okay, sometimes people have bad days. Yeah. We don't live with all of our meals paid for. Yeah. And our housing paid for. And we're also
Logistics and Character Interactions
00:38:04
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not a mortal. Yeah, exactly. That was the thing I did. Okay. That was more not a complaint of movie, but with what they were writing where he's like, yeah, he's like, I've really, these people don't understand. It's like, yeah, we don't live hundreds of years. Yeah, exactly. Have the perspective you do to like. Exactly. Yeah, it's like it's literally like a potentially immortal being. Yeah. Trying to. So what was he going to do? What was he going to do? I had that retired a what? Yeah. What do you mean you're retiring? Well, it's like, well, he also says, like, you can't leave. Like, is he retiring or he's like, he's like, it's time for a change. Like, is he going to go to a different wing of the more a thing because he's can't get over how the adults in the world are the human adults or pieces of shit because because they're all on the naughty list. things like I can't deal with this. So now I'm going to be in the like the Sleepy Hollow Department and deal with that. Like we keep the head here in the body. Yeah, they keep them separated. Yeah, that was pretty funny. Again, they did such a good job. That's why I want more of that. I want more of the fucking more stuff. I love that. Like the Mission Impossible level control room. Exactly. Just to find Santa was just to find fucking also like he has a deal with the US military.
00:39:13
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Oh yeah, yeah. i they they The jets fly them out and stuff. Like, all right, see you all next year and stuff. Like, how dope would that be if you were in the military air force and you got assigned, like you made it all the way through, you got all the clearances and they were like, all right, watch on scene like like, oh, you thinking about quitting?
00:39:30
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Guess what? You can you
Magical Realism and Christmas Narrative
00:39:32
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can stay here forever he says like until you're ready to retire. You can be one of the guys who helps make sure he gets where he needs to go when he's flying over the United States. I would stay in the Air Force if that was an actual option. like you abandoned me of the worst ah What's that? when he's The presents. That is so dumb. It's so wild. It's so wild. It's good, but I think that's to make it like still about Christmas. Yeah. And that's for the kids. That's for the kids. That's for the kids. Yeah, exactly. But it looks so silly. It looks so goofy. He's flipping things like.
00:40:09
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get doing his little pitter patter and stuff because he's because he shrinks too and stuff because he's got the technology and stuff like it doesn't explain at all how he's able to do a billion houses or whatever he says no it's literally like yeah like three billion homes or whatever or something like that and like that's just an absurd he like he does like two in like five minutes Yeah, it's like what like like so he's like carefully doing each one I felt like all the elves would be helping and like yeah i did I do think the little system they had to like fly him the new pods of presence Yeah, that makes sense and like that's kind of cool. Who else did the shrinking also? I think it's just was that the Santa Claus. Yeah. Yeah they took a lot they did i mean it really did Yeah, they so lot I do want to say so Amazon made this movie, right?
00:40:54
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allegedly
Plot Devices and Character Contributions
00:40:55
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allegedly they definitely definitely watched on amazon yeah yeah so amazon made this movie did you find it interesting that part of uh cow's whole anti christmas like he like he's going anti-christmas and stuff uh there's a bit of like you know the over-commercialization of it like not the spirit of christmas and stuff is a part of why he's angry with like the adults who are on the naughty list because they're pieces of shit because they're and stuff like that but then we go to santa's workshop and there's the original little one and stuff and his tiny little sled and stuff which is cute you know and spoiler alert that's where he's been high that's where gill has been giilla ah guilla krillilla quiullarela grele has been doing is been keeping him and doing her plan and stuff like and under the which is at a lot.
00:41:54
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Yeah, also true. So all of a sudden turning on this. Yeah. Good. the know and It's working. We still that' we got time. We got time. We'll talk. um But um the point I'm trying to make is like it's just interesting that like he's bitching about that when they're at the mall. They get there and it's like, wow, look at the Amazon factory level of work.
World Setting and Christmas Themes
00:42:17
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But but but.
00:42:19
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notice how happy everybody is and how much they love being there they're sincela but are they yes i' saying like are they where else tearing like it's like they're because are they volunteering or are they are they getting some kind of a stipend because there's a whole village which appears to be like have little shops and like you can go get food and stuff it's like is it just like a The Christmas Village is wild when he escapes or not. Yeah, like when he runs up the roof, he does. That's that's the superhero thing. That's the superhero thing. and when He's taking. Oh, and then that's from the they steal from Avatar Last Airbender when he goes down the chute and stuff. That's in fucking the crampus tail Yeah, which is so gross, which is very gross. So creepy. Yeah, they did a good job with this with the Krampus for sure. But yeah, I just say I was like, interesting Amazon pushing a ah factory. Look at all these happy factory workers. Yeah, I was like, that's interesting. There's like you see the elves like peeing into bottles. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like, where are those scenes? I know they're there. strike I know they strike out front. getting
00:43:21
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Oh, you're good. They're hosing them down. the shit like That's what I'm saying. I was like, I was like, he's literally green these people or know the iceman they do freeze good they would they'd be good strike busters yeah strike they were like it's just like, I just did find that funny on this second watch. Like I didn't like, you know, looking for like the bad and stuff. I was
Character Motivations and Thematic Development
00:43:42
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like, interesting. He's bitching. ah He's kind of bitching about the over-commercialization of Christmas and not like how it's like not the Christmas spirit anymore. And then we go to an Amazon factory level operation that is Santa and everybody's so happy to be there and working so diligently because the big day is coming and stuff. But I get it. Like I just think it's interesting to work all year. No, that's I'm saying their entire psyche is like their entire world. I'm going to knock these over. The entire world is based around Christmas. I mean, yeah, homes whole brain.
00:44:14
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is wrapped around the idea of the naughty the nice list. I assume the elves have just been indoctrinated like everyone else. Exactly. Also, where else are they going to go? They're going to leave. well Same with him. Like what the fuck is he going to do? he think like There's not like a hunt. The team is going to hunt you down. Garcia is going to come get you back.
00:44:29
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yeah garia's gonna get chance yeah love it garcia love garcia that's a company main right there a company he's not gonna he's not goingnna rock the boat yeah or like He likes where he's at his he's in a good position. Yeah, he's like he's like the second command of the security it's like seals he wants Oh, yeah, whatever he wants, probably. But I just like I just I just don't know that funny. I just want to know. They got to think they hate commercialization. And then the Santa's workshop leads to every single toy store in the world. True. So it's like, well, that's how you that's how they put you have a portal through. It's like you just should have to go to a back closet and like the real thing of Christmas buying
Comedic Approach and Narrative Impact
00:45:10
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Hot Wheels. back It's like, what do you mean? Yeah. And Lego sets and all that shit. He's very the whole naughty master.
00:45:17
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yeah well like the message was like i was like we're already contradicting the message you're trying to establish with like uh the the rock uh like his character and like his whole thing and he's like i love this place like and he's like reminiscing about he's like and stuff like that like for him to rethink about it true she was also like anyone i find to be naughty She said people that were bugged. Yeah, if you're late to anything, anything for any reason. Yeah, she like he's very black and white, but she is like pure black and white about it. Yeah, very basic evil and stuff, which I think I think Kiernan Shipka did a great job like in the role and stuff, but like just the character, the writing of the character. And I guess those are her children, they said. Yeah. The shape shifting snow things. Yeah, they're all like everybody who works under her children in some way or their children, their children. She's stolen in the past and made a mortal or fucking now a big gremlin monster. And they're all like all their faces are messed up. Oh, yeah, that's true. Well, that's because that's what Krampus was like. He's like, he's like, yeah, like he's like, I loved her back then when she was rocking that look like now, not so much like, which is
00:46:23
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guys Two big natural
Character Dynamics and Humor
00:46:24
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tails it's what Again ah trying to 80s like any random joke inappropriate or not they can get in there I don't know. Where, where'd we, so movie starts. We're at the mall. He gets back. He wants to retire saying it's like, no, what are you going to do? He's like, well, they, they should actually, what's your job? What are you going to go do now? He fast and furious. Is it? He says one last ride and then they shake and audit and stuff. The classic moment, very predictable, very predictable. I'll give it that. I mean, 31% predictable, maybe.
00:46:58
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Maybe. So after that, this is why I had to turn around and go back to get the notes, because yeah I knew I wouldn't remember everything about what even happened. Oh, they go get the hunter. Yes, that was good. Chris, I will say Chris Evans character might be my favorite in the movie. Yeah, although he's a dirtbag.
00:47:14
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He's a huge piece of shit. His reaction to everything is actually how a human being would react to this shit. It's a genuine piece of shit, but like a genuine human. Right. Not the degenerate stuff. Nobody would be that bad of a dad. No. But to be specific, when they're on the beach with Nick Kroll, he gets possessed by Grilla, and you're like, rah, rah, rah, rah. And everyone's like, what the hell was that?
Audience Engagement through Humor
00:47:36
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And they're trying to move on. He's like, no, what the hell was that? No, no, no, no, no, no. Explain that shit. Yeah, that was very funny. I love that movie. Yeah.
00:47:44
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What I like that once he gets thrown into a world of magic. He's just like he's obviously he's forced to go along with the ride and stuff, but like his genuine shock and horror at the things that are happening just genuine or just like real moments of, you know, when someone when the villain gets shot and made monologue, it's like I'm not we're not doing that. Oh, yeah, it's like that. It's nice. Oh, yeah, I like it too. Even when they're like every movie to do it. But yeah, I like it even too when sometimes they're like,
00:48:14
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You think I'm gonna monologue my plan to you right now? No, absolutely not. kill Like, go kill him. And then some and then other Dozak's Mahina comes in and like saves the day and stuff. I like that. It's like, yeah, this isn't it's not James Bond. It's not Sean Connery, James Bond. Gonna give him just enough time to save, to get saved and shit. The whole time James is looking at his watch, waiting for something to happen. Exactly. like Why are you stalling? It's like, are you busy? like like like You have somewhere to be, you're tied up. Yeah, exactly.
Visual Storytelling and Narrative Experience
00:48:41
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Oh my God. That shit's crazy, too.
00:48:43
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Bad CG in this movie at times, though. It's pretty bad. You know, you got Got to call it like it is. This is part of it. It just makes the screen. I guess we're just so used to seeing how to just makes the screen just look like blurry almost. Yeah. A jumble of colors. Again, that's what I was saying. Like it's it's it can be nauseating like with like so much like that. So like so.
00:49:08
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going back to like the Avengers or something. yeah Like obviously there's a timeline like in the timeline before Infinity War and stuff where the Hulk is he banner is just banner Hulk like he's always in Hulk form and stuff. But like they try to ease up on some of the CGI because you're constantly seeing him like that. So it kind of balances in a way. and But this movie there's like ah it's just so much and it's all a bunch of different stuff oh yes to the point where it's like Flashbang flashbang flashbang flashbang of like would the real set even have been oh It would have been it would have been nearly impossible to pageant to do it.
Pacing and Character Arcs
00:49:47
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Yeah, like Yeah, but again like like Jack says like Jack says nobody wants us like that sounds that sucks No one's we didn't need that scene that one quick scene where he's on that when he's FaceTiming him and stuff. That's all we needed to see that shit like
00:50:04
Speaker
the the snow globe to dylan the sun to capture him in it um i also for i love that they have to do rnd they're like trying to figure out how the snow globes are in real time yeah they're like i would have waited to spring the plan maybe a little bit but Yeah, well they just do like the test one with that one like piece of shit with the parking tickets and shit okay we need like two are we're doing a couple more trials for launch this but Nope they did it one the one guy who got a ticket like in the Porsche and stuff and That was it. and it wass like Okay. It works like great. There's no way it's not gonna not work now like which was
00:50:39
Speaker
actually pretty funny. So I sent it to Dylan and at first I was like why is she sending it to Dylan other than just to be mean to Jack O'Malley. But then Dylan answers he's like I'm here at the stupid pageant sucks. I'm like oh okay she's a shitty kid I guess. And then when I rewatched I was like oh I guess he did cut the tires of that guy. because Yeah he slashed the tires and like did all the like technically broke into the school's mainframe to like do stuff so again that's be late that good Yeah, class so didn't chat up some girl records. Yeah yeah who Who hasn't who hasn't thought about doing
00:51:17
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Who hasn't definitely done that?
Character Development and Plot Twists
00:51:19
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Disclaimer, I have not done that. Who didn't change the seven? It's high school. They're gonna come back and get you. Yeah, right. They're gonna take back your diploma. I'm pretty sure one time I tried to change my grades. I'll say on the record. i think like Yeah, on the record. I'm pretty sure I had a 72. I think I tried to change it to a 92. Hell yeah. How'd it go?
00:51:38
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knowing me probably didn't work probably got caught or she or maybe not because it was one that when they had like the sheets oh yeah so i think i just tried to like do a loop it might it might have happened it might work yeah it's one of those things where i'm out here now and it just doesn't matter it just doesn't matter i did have a teacher one time who uh senior year was just like asking people what they needed to like get Past a certain like oh, yeah, and he's like what do you need? What do you need is like the last half of senior year? Yeah English class. Yeah, like like hey you guys can read cool ah yeah guys You know what to pick up on like basic metaphor fail you already had to write the paper from ac t so like yeah at that point
00:52:21
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think they so yeah like I think you've got below a certain grade. He might have been helping you, but like, yeah, I got six or whatever. Yeah. Get on it. I didn't have to anyways. Why did we get on that? Oh, stupid teenage. Stupid teenage. shit Yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah, that's why that's why she sends it to him, but also to.
00:52:40
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At this point, she knows that Jack is like a
Role of Humor in Narrative Cohesion
00:52:42
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part of it. And she's like, it's like, well, he's a piece of shit father, but he probably still cares about it. He she cares. He cares about his son enough to not want him trapped in a snow globe forever, probably. So that's good. Kudos to him on that. Good thing he did. That was the first turning point of him showing not to be a piece. Yeah, that's when he was like, I he's like, I don't give a shit about anything. I'm going in the snow globe so I can go where she is in a boxing match on a boxing match. Every gambler knows you don't. 25 K. He makes it and he makes it on the way to pay off his other. He's like on a job to pay off his other guy owes also money to. Yeah. Hey, you know, well, hey, well, I'm at it. Let me add to the debt. He's like, yeah, you know, it's fine. I'm going to get it back. I'm doing a job right now. I'll pay you back also 25 K on that guy. And he's like, OK, whatever you fucking more like basically is what he says. I also. That opening scene, it was kind of like his like first
00:53:35
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like the the job he does which turns out to be to like locate santa um when he breaks so he breaks into like a geological study that's study that's like tracking like seismic yeah things and stuff and first of all Just so on the nose, Lily steals candy from a baby as he's leaving. We already watched him do it so easy as if it was stealing candy from a baby, but then he actually does it.
Plot Devices and Film Structure
00:54:02
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He could have returned that pass to that lady. He could have returned that pass, throws in the garbage piece of shit. He throws the fire extinguisher. He hides the fire extinguisher and stuff and lets the dogs go loose. That's all not necessary. They're already distracted by the fire. It's very naughty. That's level four. That's right. He's a level four. He's an L4, dude. But also, I have an issue with that scene because you're telling me. All it takes is to get into one of those highly regulated scientific kind of buildings that has a security guard with a metal detector through. You're telling me so many cameras. You're saying you tell me there's not a single camera in there. He literally is one.
00:54:48
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walks in obviously picks something up and like plugs in his own like piece of tech so we can like break into and stuff and nobody's gonna be like hey who the fuck is that guy fake like hey wait somebody just walked into like used her badge to come in oh and the fact like they just get into the yeah well like it's like she's like we she was outside during the fire during this time what the fun Yoga outside
Setting and Thematic Elements
00:55:11
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her job. Yeah, like on a break i get and fucking like is one of those places the last like as like the government building yeah like I was just like it was like not a single camera everything else I could get behind like yeah, he throws the thing away He's a piece of shit like right yeah, he lets the dogs loose like some incredible technology in the rest of the movie too Yeah, I mean that's true. But the fact that he like there's
00:55:32
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I mean like you think they'd have camp they would have in like or facial recognition at this point in a building like that that's just goingnna ruin movies i mean too Obviously, but like I mean obviously there's a disbelief and stuff but like that is unbelievable I have cameras in this room right now. Come on. I'm looking at two cameras right now. Right now. like And this government building doesn't have any, and someone wasn't watching it going, who's that? people they were probably Well, I think the idea is the fire was distracting everybody. Yeah. But that dude in the building would have had no idea of fire was happening.
00:56:04
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Exactly or would have been up in sun or we'd been like floors. Yeah it like looking at a bunch of screens of cameras and going oh people oh people are probably watching the outside camera People are handling the people are handling the fire sweet great awesome. I'm gonna go back to monitoring the rest of this building as fireight i better a Lockdown Yeah, I should maybe. Yeah, maybe there's something happened. Yeah, like maybe oh, someone could probably easily sneak in here right now.
Narrative Development and Storytelling Techniques
00:56:26
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Like that. Sometimes you got to get it picky, nitpicky like decision of disbelief and all that. Like, sure. But I was like, that's a little like really just like add again. It's not it's not a long movie ad. Like he has all this crazy tech and stuff. I have like one thing of him like messing with the cameras, even if it's kind of ridiculous. Like he just like somehow gets true, turns him off real quick. He like walks. True. He like walks. He likes to be really good. He steals a cane from an old man on the way in and stuff. And he, as he walked by, just pops the cameras and turns them around. Yeah. Just like unplugs a camera in the hallway. It's like, okay. So he is thinking about the cameras. We can move on. Yes. 10 seconds, 10, 10 more seconds to the movie to add that research facility.
00:57:08
Speaker
Well, the thing is, why i even have the that much like like having a card, having a having a guy outside with and the metal detector and stuff? You just said you could set the research at like a college. Yeah. And just be like this college. Exactly. Do it. Discovered some seismic activity. Yeah, like they're they're doing it and stuff. It'd be a lot. Yeah, exactly. school Yeah, exactly. Or they don't necessarily like it could just be you could walk in. But he like, yeah, he just strolls into a government building where no, everyone's on lunch break.
00:57:35
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Yeah, everybody is. I think if you look closely, when he comes into the he like goes into the door to get to the hallway and stuff, there's somebody walking behind him and in the background just like in a lab coat, just like du to just like walks right by thats true some of those big buildings. You don't know who's in it. I mean, that's
Character Interactions and Comedic Timing
00:57:50
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true. Again, you got to trust again. she Just trust the badge, I guess.
00:57:53
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The one that he is in his hand and is also of a woman. A blonde woman. I do wonder if those badges even like if they're just to scan with and they're probably just looking at your face. Yeah, a lot of it. If you match this. Yeah, they're like, OK, yeah, sure. I don't know. Again, nitpicky, but did kind of drive me crazy on the on the second watch at the first watch. I didn't think twice about it. I was just like, OK, he's going to break in like this. Like it was pretty over the top. how evil He was.
00:58:17
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Yeah, again, in they pick the the the the like right on the nose like he actually steals candy from letting no stone turn Yeah, like the degenerate dad. Yeah, which again like shitty to his son. Yeah, we're alcoholic Just the whole night hates Christmas hates Christmas. It's just people it's just people obviously just just strangers for their reason Mean to strangers mean to his child his ex-wife like everybody this research absolutely the sanctity of Scientific research that's not cool. That's fucked up using it for nefarious reasons. That's also fucked up to Icelandic witches it's not yeah cool just forget just to Just to lose it all so I wonder if this world exists like Marvel where it's like people know superheroes exist in the Marvel Universe like I guess just the military because they escort him out it's insane but like I wonder but alright if Santa's real headless horseman's real cramp is
Fantasy Elements and Humor Balance
00:59:10
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I'm just saying, is the world of Red Two gonna be like, do the people of the world know that they live in this magical world? This is not Earth as we know it. This is a fantasy world. Yeah, this is like an urban fantasy world. But modern. Yeah. Fantasies actually came to modern time. Yeah. What would it be like? Hell no. Easter Bunny's real. Horrifying. So I'm saying. The Easter Bunny would be so scary. Tooth fairy. gigantic eggs. Tooth fairy. How fucking scary is that? Oh my gosh. Coming to get your teeth. A fairy coming to get children's teeth and leaving like a dollar.
00:59:40
Speaker
That's fuckin' weird. yeah That's fuckin' weird. I hope they don't know. So if you say Greala's name, she's supposed to be able to hear you? Yeah. We've said it a lot. We've said it a lot of times. She's about to bust through the window. Let's get through, alright, the best stuff.
00:59:55
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the best stuff all right i have to argue for why this movie is worth watching uh crampus crampus so they get to crampus and they're playing crampish slop yeah and crampish slop is the official game of crampish nut and i love that all the villains he's with it's like the chronicles of narnia villains yeah that's a very conical of narnia yeah like the chronicles narnia which is also i guess is pulling from Probably similar ancient
Character Roles and Narrative Impact
01:00:25
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stories. I don't know. Yeah, yeah it's like Lewis was a British hardcore Christian, but brought in fantastical stuff in there. So probably like like traditional European, well there lot like traditional Christian stuff. Oh, yeah. A lot of the the monsters in this are not Christian, but like folklore.
01:00:42
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Yeah, yeah, it's very. Yeah, the folklore is abound. Yeah. Yeah. Which is awesome. It was funny how the monsters were very much like chronicles. and Yeah, they were very good as land to show up. Where's the what's the Thomas? Mr. Thomas Thomas Thomas. They say um yeah when he slaps him. Yeah, I laughed very hard. Yeah. when The slapping all the slapping was very he crampish slaps that guy. And he just I love a good bit of over the top slapstick. Yeah. Slapstick.
01:01:12
Speaker
It was good. It was a little again kind of predictable where he could like gets the thing and he puts it on his yeah sla Yeah, it's like obviously he was gonna be able to like pickpocket that yeah, they let him get out of it. Yeah know and they let him go Which you know, he'd let him go yeah he let him go. he's like, ah, fuck it He's fine. But also maybe he got to me because he does come back later and help save the day.
Humor and Plot Resolution
01:01:32
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So I'm saying yeah yeah he Everybody everybody except for Grilla Changed their mind about Christmas. Yeah I will say, that's the last good part of the movie. So that's where, if if you were to come in and like argue it's not that good, after that point, it just it becomes you know the snow globes, trapping people. I mean, again, I thought that was a good touch until I was watching, I was trying to find the five movies. yeah I was looking at some Santa Claus scenes. yeah You got a whole the gotta hold the snow globe, yeah be like, I don't wanna be Santa, take your power.
01:02:09
Speaker
And so anyways, before that, I did think it was funny. I agree. I had like one dump truck full of snow gloves. I'm going to get millions of people. Exactly. A thousand. snow glo Yeah, just one of those giant like, oh my gosh, like commercial dumpsters. Yeah. And like, there's not a million of those. I mean, maybe she was going to get a traction. Yeah, she's going to tap into Santa's like calling refill. mesa thing and There you go. He'll take care of it. You ball bitch. Help me make these. Also with the snow globes though, all Jack had to do was apologize to his son and be like, I love
Narrative Closure and Storytelling Critique
01:02:45
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you. And they both popped out. Okay. So it's like, so it wasn't that hard to get out of it anyway. She really didn't miss something about that. I think it's literally, he just like talks to his son, tells him he loves him, says he'll be around more and like, yeah, Santa's real and Christmas is real and this is amazing. And Christmas spirit's real. And then they just both shatter and then go back to full size. They're like, we did it. And it's like, movie it is a Christmas movie, but it's also like Grilla again. One test drive. gorilla knowrelarela ah One test drive. Okay, it's working. It's fine. And no, like we might got to make sure it's airtight. Like it's not like, no matter how good you all of a sudden change, like is this like, okay, so now there's just
01:03:27
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Billions of people that just all pop out and we're like, well, they all end up at back at the warehouse too So you could send in like a SEAL team member? Yeah, like have him like lied it I didn't take that naughty list touches it gets in there. I did take it and now he's out And he's like in there. Yeah, I'm just like mos and death good three red three. Yeah, we'll save that for three. Yeah Because two we've already established needs more lore. We can explain some lore start at the beginning Yeah, I want to I want like yeah, to I want red 2 to be the like Simarillion of yes this world I need I need to know I'm curious enough I'm curious enough to want to know more of like all that lore and like Yeah, like what are the other North Pole monsters? Where do these people live? Yeah? how old are they are they two and they not that have been Found their way to the North Pole are they elves again?
01:04:21
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The elves working for elf the elf department. I had another one. Oh, here we go. ah The Rock Callum Callum, the elf Johnson.
01:04:33
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He was like, it's this is the naughtiest things I've ever been. Yeah, I have my I don't think so. You're a real naughty if it's just a numbers thing. Sure. Sure. Now, the percentage wise yeah percentage wise, like.
01:04:47
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you You know what y'all were doing back then. yeah You know, we know we made those laws. You know what y'all were doing. You know what you did every day. and Every day you were doing it. Mm hmm. Shame. Shame, james shame, shame, shame. This is not the naughtiest time. Now not even being like meaning being late.
01:05:05
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People didn't have to be anywhere on time back in the day. Yeah, it gives a shit. You show up. We show objective. Yeah, exactly. when this When the sun is here, we hope they come over. Yeah, that's the idea. It's like, well, you know, sorry, I will. Sorry. my My horse died. I had to walk the last for five miles. My seven children fell in a hole. Yeah. We had to try and save. We only got one out, but, you know, that's good. Yeah. you Try to save and be like.
01:05:29
Speaker
what fucking have three yeah exactly yeah fuck it like yeah exactly they'll be fine what' you talking about anyway It's a very good point I did not consider did not consider that Yeah, pre percentage-wise.
Humor on Historical Figures and Punctuality
01:05:43
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He's ah way off yeah which is way off this king is con. I'm just saying yeah ah real naughty boy That's a real thing his band was <unk> yeah No, I think he probably showed up on time though. So, okay. more more The red movie. I just need more, me more more of these red ones. Yeah. Two's go back a thousand years. Please. I want to see the falling out of Krampus. Yeah. What happened with them? There's a story. That's cool.
01:06:08
Speaker
all we know is they tried to make the naughty list be more punishing yeah which is all like kind of plays into like all the old timey tales yeah yeah yeah cut your tongue out yeah all real nasty shit toes off with hot prongs yeah real nasty shit yeah and he was like nah we're done here santa was like fuck that fuck you i want to be loved so okay great well he started working out i need him to play master roshi Yes. Oh my God. That would be incredible. Because that's what all I could see when he stood up and greeted us there. Oh yeah. I was about to just command man. That would have been amazing.
Casting The Rock as Master Roshi
01:06:41
Speaker
That would have been incredible. Honestly, it would have been like, it would have been incredible, but it's like, all right, what are we even doing at this point, buddy? Hey, whatever. I'm here for it. I think he dressed up as Master Ocean when you're for Halloween.
01:06:53
Speaker
I think. Or something. You know, I'm maybe. Or am I just imagining this? It's very easy to see an edit. It may be. He didn't play him in an actual movie. He made one live action dragon. No, that was a while ago. and That was like a pretty. Didn't they get an actual Asian man to play Master Roshi? I believe so. Yeah.
01:07:11
Speaker
Don't know if I've seen that but I feel like I would have definitely known if he did you know I mean yeah, but I also can picture it so clearly in my head that it's like I swear It's like a false memory. I'm like I'm like yeah, that's definitely No, maybe it's one of those Mandela effects things like he definitely did like no there's no evidence of it and I think he went, it must've been Halloween or something. It must've been Halloween or something. Either way, that needs to happen. That does need to happen.
Aging Actors and Fitness
01:07:40
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That would be amazing. That's all I can imagine when he's just... Yeah, when he's just fucking so jagged again. We need angry grandpa. He's got us. Be careful. Be careful, Jake. Survive forever. Yeah, put the weights down. Put the roars down. The HCH.
01:07:54
Speaker
No way. It's fine. You don't need it. You're Jack. I mean, he's probably on that clean stuff. They're like, Hugh Jackman's been on some kind of something forever now. Yeah. He's still going. Yeah. That's true. They get the best of the best. They get the best of the best. They can afford it. They're not getting a trash bag. of Yeah, they're not getting a sketchy. A bunch of ah definitely not used needles. Yeah, I've heard some bad stories about.
01:08:14
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google internet steroids oh that cause an issue yeah yeah color me surprise i would who would have thought it um I don't
Critique of Action-Centric Movies
01:08:26
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know man. You got you got anything else? I think We've made its a lot movie it's a short movie not much we've talked about a lot though so a lot that's not it's okay It's worth watching it's just there's not that much it's not action. Yeah movie a lot of its action is Yeah. Unlike the other one had a lot of characterish development. Mm hmm. Yeah. I just want to make sure I don't have any. Oh, the elf light repair. That was a funny last second scene. Oh, yeah. he Steps on the line. and He like comes out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was good. Oh.
01:08:57
Speaker
No, never mind. Totally unreal. That was a jingle all the way when I mentioned that. Oh, yeah. Jake Lloyd. Oh, yeah. Anakin Skywalker. Oh, yeah. I just wrote that down as well. I didn't mention that earlier. Oh, we love that. Yeah. do this right now No, we love that. Oh, Grealist kids are shapeshifters. Why not? Just write that down. yeah yeah Why not? Yeah. no I mean, she's a shapeshifter. So I guess it's i inherited or something. Is it Krampus? You fucking show up and immediately just like got hit and he's like, just like the old days. Yeah, and he was he was super into his kinky dude, which is not shocking. I don't think so. Where is Jack's dad again? Why was the point why that whole thing that whole thing? He's he's really he's really find anybody in the world, but not his own father. And it's fucking say that that like tell us like he tried to and ah he was dead or like he reached out and they were like and he was like, fuck you. I don't care about you anything.
01:09:51
Speaker
Cause it was such a big thing at the very beginning. Like just nothing. they meant nothing Absolutely nothing. Yeah. That was a ah the inside. I love just the insane mission possible control room. Yeah. I love that. Okay. There is getting more of it. There's one thing more, ah the more shit mythological outreach. The way there was one while you're doing that, there's one scene I need to pull up because this is so funny and it won't, it won't.
01:10:17
Speaker
work once I can like show you. Was I supposed to stay inside of the white square the whole time also? I did not. Oh, you're good. I stayed on the screen. That's all that matters. Or more mythological oversight and restoration authority. Of course. Amazing.
01:10:40
Speaker
was I think the clandestine multilateral military organization. if You can be read one 26 minutes 40 seconds in. Anyways, he just comes in. The rock comes in and Lucy Lou's like, what happened? Cow. And he just slammed that chair. He just he just but he breaks it. You see the wheels. just i don't know just so fucking mad they I mean hey it's that's what that's what happens on a one last ride kind of a mission that of course is gonna go wrong like it was it's so funny It's very funny. I swear it hadn't been a joke on the set or something just like had to be I just like broke this chair they like
01:11:20
Speaker
like no or like one of those like happy accident and kind of things where it's like he slams it down and it just shatters, but everybody keeps rolling and like keep going. bounce off Yeah, it's so fun. It's very funny. I love the rock. He's he's literally a superhero. The snowmobile thing. He does a ah we didn't talk enough about that. He does a. wo but but like Well, he does the powers. ray Yeah, the shrink ray, the ant man technology. And but like he does a fuck it. He pops a wheelie.
01:11:47
Speaker
and Cuts and laer cuts the glacier. Yeah cause like He's a fucking superhero and like yeah yeah he's not human like like Hundreds of years old like I don't understand why he was being so coy about they're closer to mythological gods. Yeah Oh, yeah, they're anything.
Comparing Characters to Ancient Gods
01:12:03
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There's demi gods at least like Santa might be a god he like a Zeus almost Yeah, like it's like a Zeus type. Cramp is kind of like was it Hades? is the opposite Yeah, Hades. Yeah. But still but and a brother and everything. Yeah. But then ah and like Grilla obviously is a god. And then but then like, yeah, like. Fucking a cow is a demi. I just want more. There's one more. Yeah. Let's let's expand this lore. i mean more Jack O'Malley does not need to come back. No, I'm fine. The wolf is fine. Again, my whole thing. My but he was funny. My whole vision with the he would he did great. He's less funny if he.
01:12:37
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the whatever holiday system and stuff. And like she's the one being world like, you need to fucking fix this shit. And like, like, and they literally just like come in. Yeah. Easter bunny goes missing or some shit like or they have to like somebody's trying to. I don't know. Again, we talked about the tooth fairy. So for some reason, somebody's trying to steal all the tooth fairies, teeth, all the money that she's collected or like all the money. So she can't. So she can't give it out like and stuff. And like that would ruin like some important part of the world for some reason. like for some fucking reason and like she has to go in and like get somebody you know you get an everyday man team up like like get somebody else that she has to keep finding you fucking Paul Rudd in there dudes we can make it Paul Rudd in there You'd be really good because you would do the same good like what the fuck is that like kind of shit? So I don't know it could happen. I'm here for it. I think they should. I think they should lose department more just like a more based one. You have to make it about Christmas. You have a little cameo, but they're off doing their own thing. Yeah, they could like come in there like they could like do like advice. They're going to Hawaii. Yeah. During that time, it's like.
01:14:03
Speaker
because it's oh we can't disturb Santa he's on vacation we gotta finish this problem without bothering him exactly there you go there you go are easy let's cast it who would be so you got Lucy Lou I'm thinking Paul Rudd Paul Rudd everyday man Paul Rudd's the older everyday man and then one it's got to be one of his kids gets drawn into it yeah something something with one of his kids older kid kind of yeah yeah yeah I gotta I gotta have like a teenager yes I'm like in some way um honestly a Dave Bautista for like the rock yeah and i that'd be really good another big guy much cheaper not fifty million dollars and not fifty fucking million dollars was two hundred and fifty million dollar fucking bank cannot believe that yeah it's insane and it's insane um i think you like a dave putista type him and paul rudd probably have good energy
01:14:48
Speaker
I think so. Do, a again, some tooth fairy shit. they ah Lucy Lou's like, we had a similar situation a few years ago. I'm going to connect you to this guy. And then there's another team. And then the ah Dwayne and then the cows there and like just gives them some quick advice on like a video call just to have a cameo to shout out and stuff.
01:15:07
Speaker
They'd be at the beach we with the Nick right this mission should we write this movie to Amazon? Yeah? They'll just be like we have 16 of them written do like a little literally We're good for the next 20 years doesn't matter we could do a bunch of different casts I do I'm curious if they are casting these themselves or if there's some kind of like if it's one person casting these movies they're doing a very good they're doing a very good job whoever is in charge of casting i hope it is one person but yeah it usually it's or a team is fine but i just mean like if it's yeah well there's usually like a casting credit like and stuff there's like a casting like union like uh and stuff you know like the screenwriters guild like there's a guild for casting and stuff like who's in who's in the
01:15:46
Speaker
who's in the like the top position so they get the credit and stuff but they probably have people it's their department it's it's like they're they're the head of the department so they get the credit and stuff because you know like the cinematographer it's like yeah there's a cinematographer then there's like director two and assistant directors and all that stuff they're all part of the cinematography team and stuff like that so um whoever whoever's in charge of it did a really good job the casting was in special never anyone unknown really that's just no like this movie maybe I looked up Dylan even yeah was like what this kid been in just other
01:16:31
Speaker
I want her because she's been in a couple tiny little things and no one really knows who she is i miss Let's do let's do that and then John Boyega and stuff Oscar Isaac, you know, he'd been around had had and stuff already and so like we'll throw him into lot of stuff And he's just fucking amazing and so I'm glad he's ah in a bunch of stuff like Moon Knight Also, I think maybe would have
01:17:00
Speaker
Part parts of me thinks if it was cut like a movie.
Marvel's Eternals and Format Challenges
01:17:03
Speaker
Yeah. Instead of a show. Mm hmm. And then also Eternals. Yeah. So that that should have been a show. Not a movie. Yeah. As a movie, we watched it like in two parts. It was like a snow day or something. Watch. Yeah. Watch an hour and a half of it. So long. So long. Eight lunch or whatever came back. Watch the other hour and a half. Very enjoyable. I hated it. I can't imagine sitting through the whole thing. Oh, yeah. In a theater. is I think that's what I did. Yeah, I couldn't imagine we were like pausing it like not because it's set up like like a show. Yeah, like each. Mm hmm. There's lots of it. Yeah, each eternal. I don't know. They just got they're finally going to address the big hand. Yeah, I know. I literally haven't mentioned that which.
01:17:47
Speaker
Whatever, it's fine. It's fine. I'm gonna go on record and say, I already, like I said, I already did a quick review thing on my socials. You did? ah Yes, Neil. Wow. um I enjoyed this movie. I thought it was a very fun, dumb Christmas watch. Again, don't think about it too much and you'll have a good time. Christmas day watch. yeah Like when you watch just have movies on. Yeah, exactly. and like you Lily, you could pop in at any moment and be like, yeah, okay.
01:18:18
Speaker
and probably be like okay like oh they're with Krampus now like it's not as like i was surprised that it was there uh seeing it in theaters but like i feel like if you just came in and out and you're like what's happening now it's like oh they had to meet up with Krampus you'd be like oh okay that makes sense like because it's it's just dumb it's a dumb fun christmas it is i really i i enjoy it it's a fun watch i'll probably watch it most years on christmas Yeah, I mean, I will definitely probably watch it again next year yeah and stuff because I watched it last night and I was like, you know, I saw it a few weeks, like a month ago in theaters and stuff. And that was a fantastic watch in theaters. But like last night, I was like kind of drifting in and out, paying attention. But I also was like still enjoyable. You know, like I could like I looked at my phone for like 20 minutes and then like looked back and was like, oh, we're at the snowman scene fight. So when you see like the other Christmas movies, we're looking up the other ones. It's like this falls in line with that. Yeah, if it's not much worse than than some of these. No, I mean, like you could ghosted straight up that I thought I forgot that I had to look up what it was called. Yeah. What did we talk? Yeah. What do we even talk about? but Yeah, that one was wild. But ah this one. Yeah. A one watcher, maybe once a year watcher. Yeah. Once you watch it once. Yeah. Watch it. It's not so offensive that you'll even remember. Yeah. You watched it. But it's no. Yeah. It's pretty funny. Hour and a half again. Like is a good is a good length. Yeah. And it's really not because I'm intro and.
01:19:37
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Yeah, it's ah it's a great. It's a it's it's a genuine popcorn
Perfect Popcorn Flicks
01:19:41
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flick. I understand why 90 percent of the audience is like, yeah, it's great. Like totally totally rocked it. Like loved it kind of thing. Maybe the rock and Chris Evans fatigue wasn't where it was. That's better. Yeah, that's good. but Also, no one by Amazon could pay the rock $50 million, $50 million dollars dollars to actually try. But he did try. He did give us a $50 million performance. Yeah, he's $50 million dollars performance. I don't think Bezos. I guess.
01:20:07
Speaker
No, I think he's like it's fine. It's like fuck it. Yeah here. Here's a check He's like, can I see the rock at the red carpet and where my cowboy hat next? Exactly. You know, then it's worth it. Hold on, but you make sure to give me a couple Give me a couple apple boxes to stand on. Nobody shoot below Leave me the rocks trailer afterwards. I will smell it goes in there yes ah Some weird way to Make me make me a costume like his in my size I want one
01:20:39
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ah so i oh yeah he's not even bold Actually, Bayless can grow hair. He's like, no, I can't. I'm bald like the rock. Yeah, that's that. Yeah. Fun fact. If you didn't know to the dungeon with that, way you didn't know he can grow hair. He just refuses to. He's just like, fuck that shit. That's really fucking funny from here down. Exactly. Just the head is bald. No, he gets a he know, you know, he gets that shit waxed and shaved and shit man. He's been a naughty boy since he love for dude He's level four. This is a level four. He's a fucking level four l4. It's so funny watching him with those His girlfriends and stuff. I don't know if they're married now, but just so funny discuss. I'm just gonna be a billionaire
01:21:21
Speaker
I'm just I'm just gonna be ridiculous. I'm gonna be I want to be Batman. He wants to be Batman. Yeah, he wants to be Bruce Wayne and and more power to i mean now fuck that guy now Yeah, i'll say on record yeah that guy like i give us some of the money back jeff de come on man please we need some it's fine um yeah closing remarks that's it yeah that's really it yeah good movie it's worth a watch Good debate good debate we did well say i did With this was almost passion of the Christ. Yeah, we did almost do fashion the Christ yeah felt bad you ah were you a guy started watching it i was like am i going to judge this yeah and not make it sound bad Yeah, you texted me and you're like you're like, yeah, we're just gonna need to do red one. I is i can't like my jesus like my own like feels weird oh it It's just it is weird that this the second one called resurrection is just so funny
01:22:11
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It is very, what's it gonna be about? I guess the time in between. It's just so franchise-y. Like the way it's like, it's the passion of Chris. It sounds like, I'm pretty sure Underworld did a resurrection. Yeah, oh yeah. There's a Halloween, Michael Myers resurrection.
Humor on Passion of the Christ Sequel
01:22:25
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Like there's, like it's just so,
01:22:28
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Jesus write what Michael Myers ass no doubt about it my i do that when Jesus verse the horror movies and he just beats them all you have to write I don't know if that's blasphemous sorry but that was that was be if we again how you gonna judge how you go if it definitely feels weird to try to well is also if that's someone's favorite movie Yeah, we were at the golf course today and we were like about to tee off. And yeah, someone else asked how good that course was. It's not that good of course, but we were next to some strangers who were about to go. And I just didn't say anything because I was like, I was about to be like, it's kind of shitty. I didn't want it to be their favorite course. Right. Yeah. I get what you say. They might be the one they play on the weekend. It's kind of a passion of Christ. Yeah. That's someone's favorite movie and you're just dumping on it.
01:23:13
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I mean, shit, that's what this whole podcast is about. Yeah, but that one, though, like that was different. Yeah, you know, no one's. I will happily shit on national treasure and like brights tail. Like cult classics. Yes. Like when I put out a night's tale episode, Nick texted me and said, how fucking dare you? Like he was like super. He was like, are you joking? And I was like, yeah, I guess. No perfect movie to put be on this because like it has it's yeah I mean yeah much like ghosted much like this um I think 31 is way harsh 90 is probably 31 is way ho over yeah I would say a comfortable rating would be somewhere more like I'd give it a solid like 62 okay yeah something like that somewhere in the 60s the best you could give probably not probably not 65
01:24:03
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you know there's some good 65s out there that should be good movies yeah exactly so 65 is like you would watch it with someone and not yeah i would watch this with whoever if you had a problem with this oh yeah awesome i went and saw it and we both were like great popcorn flake it was fun it was a fun little thing to just go just to go watch like on a random like night we felt that off or whatever in theaters it was worth it i would say um i don't know that would have Nothing's bad. It was so long. I don't know. I heard stuck in there kind of help. I heard from some people quote ah dog shit. Oh, I wouldn't say dog shit. Too many characters. Yeah. A mini a mini review here. Too many characters. Yeah. ah And not as good as the first one made me appreciate the first one more. Yeah. I've heard how long that it is. Yeah. I was just it's very pays attention. Yeah. And that one doesn't. Yeah. That's unfortunate. I'll see you at some point.
01:24:54
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Also, almost hit him with the curveball of doing draft day as the movie today. Oh, my God. i've ever seen But I don't think I am reserving draft day to all future. All right. When the draft comes up, hopefully the Titans have the number two. Right. Yeah. number one pick Yeah. Go to it. I want to do draft day in preparation for that. That sounds good movie. We'll see how we. We'll see how it goes. Yeah, we'll see. All right, cool. We'll do. ah So yeah, next time you're on, we'll do draft day. We'll do it closer to the NFL draft. Yeah, that would be that would be rad. Maybe we'll get a couple of times fans. Yeah, well that would be good, too. Yeah. good horse movie yeah but The worst sports movie, those atrocious sports movies.
01:25:35
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this goofiest but like renowned word like for instance written I'm not getting it's a like but like Rudy frin is oh yeah folks so so silly happy so lame yeah yeah one scenes cold yeah everything else's kid who sucks at football gets his hand held the entire That's literally well exactly
Critique of 'Rudy' and Inspirational Value
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what that movie is. And the one scene is like, wow, OK. yeah There's somebody who's not making the team because Rudy's fucking spot. Yeah, it's insane. It's free insane. ah Shit, they're playing right now. Notre Dame right now. Yeah, that game got postponed to a Thursday. Oh, that's right. You were talking about that. Yeah. ah To today was the score gives the score real quick. Wow. They're winning just like I thought they were. Rudy hasn't started yet. OK.
01:26:40
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Let's see ah follow on tick-tock until it's gone later this month. Maybe question mark who knows ah We'll find out it youtube short Yeah, YouTube shorts will be on YouTube. I'm on Instagram Bad movie debate bad me debate pod. You'll find it. It's not that hard um Yeah, that's it. Thank you so much for being here, man. I appreciate I was glad you I was glad you were able to come into town yeah do that was awesome time cool he yeah that yeah sounds good than setting up It's a lot more fun too. Yeah. Yeah yeah again oh He's got so many useless people behind camera, just not doing anything. This guy's been on his phone the whole time. Yeah, dude. I'm gonna have to talk to that PA later. Wait, my latte's still yet to be delivered? Yeah, I've been itching for a damn latte this entire time, but... Zero, zero. Zero, zero. There you go. Good luck, Notre Dame. Rudy. Rudy, fuck you.