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Final Destination 5
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Join Nicholas and Mercedes as they discuss the penultimate film in their current season, Final Destination 5! This is their bloodiest, most violent episode yet, and it's not because of the movie! They continue on, in their most divided season yet!
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Transcript
Episode Introduction and Film Focus
00:01:11
Speaker
What's up everybody? We're Morbid Curiosities, your favorite horror movie podcast, and we're back with another episode. I'm one of your hosts, Nicholas Ewers, and with me is the lightweight champion of the world, the morbid mistress of mayhem herself.
00:01:24
Speaker
Mercedes Martinez. How are you doing tonight, Nicholas? I'm doing pretty good. You know, the pressure feels on right now. those listeners aren't going to hear any of that, but I like flubbed the intro a bunch today and I'm not even too confident in the intro. I'm going to be turning into these people.
00:01:43
Speaker
It's okay. They don't need to know that. They just know that we push out these really cool intros. So it's okay. It's okay. This is a full disclosure podcast. i'm I'm like an open book to our listeners.
00:01:58
Speaker
I just can't help myself. I mean, that's a good thing. But then you try to like throw me under the bus, throw me to the wolves out there. like We can't always be an open book to every book.
00:02:13
Speaker
Yeah, I have occasionally, you know, put put you out there, probably made you a little uncomfortable, and I apologize for that. No, it's not good.
00:02:24
Speaker
But that's in the past, man. This is a new episode, you know, for any new listeners. We're covering Final Destination 5. Don't go back and listen to our old episodes to check and see if I've put Mercedes business out there or not.
00:02:40
Speaker
But... ah Listen to them for the fun movie talk, though. That's what it's all about. That's what we're here for. Right, Mercedes? Can we agree on that? We'll agree on that because I have nothing clever to say back to that. Anything witty just flew out the window. so Bravo to you on that. yeah Everyone, just just stay tuned to what we got going on today for nick's favorite movie, Final Destination 5.
00:03:08
Speaker
My favorite movie? Have I said that on the podcast before? Yes, multiple times. You have given this movie praise and I have no fucking idea why.
Debating Final Destination 5
00:03:18
Speaker
Oh, wow.
00:03:19
Speaker
Rightfully so, too. Man, this is the most torn this is the most torn season I think we've had so far. So you i mean so spoilers ahead for Final Destination 5.
00:03:32
Speaker
So you don't like this this one, I'm guessing? God, I fucking hate it. like I thought I did not like Final Destination 4. Also, guys, I'm sorry if I sound horrible. i got sick once again. my immune system has just been trashed this year.
00:03:50
Speaker
But yeah, I really thought I didn't like Final Destination 4. i like final destination four i'm I don't know which one I hate more, that one or this one. or or yeah What is it? The Final Destination?
00:04:06
Speaker
That one was horrific to watch. This one, it was just overreaching. like I could see some of the scenes where they were trying to like poke at legit fears, like you know when people go to the eye doctor or even crossing a bridge. It yeah People have those fears. like I even get a little apprehensive going over fear bridges.
00:04:32
Speaker
but With these, it just seems like we were just at a point where it's like, what the fuck are we doing? like These deaths are so ridiculous.
00:04:44
Speaker
It made the movie tank so bad. Okay, I'm gonna, this is gonna be a fun episode, I can feel it, it's in the air right now. Yeah.
00:04:55
Speaker
but To that I have to say, Final Destination 5, more like Final Destination three and a half star movie, am I right?
00:05:06
Speaker
Yes, definitely, definitely right. I would even say two and a half stars. I feel like, yeah, two and a half stars or two stars sounds about like where you're sitting. and Three and a half stars, ah ah maybe even like four. I don't know. i i don't want to spoil my ranking, but this one I think is going to be higher up there for me on the Final Destination list.
00:05:27
Speaker
Aside from the Final Destination, which was the previous entry, the fourth one, I feel like these movies have been getting better as they've been coming out.
00:05:38
Speaker
right I had a blast with this one. I saw it a couple months ago with my girlfriend, and I remember like thinking, like oh my god, like the kills in this one are super clever. like that I was like really wrapped into this one, and then like I had said before in previous episodes, we watched these movies in reverse order, so then we watched The Final Destination next, and i was like, oh shit, this movie has some lows, but Luckily, that's like as low as they get and we're past that.
00:06:11
Speaker
Like I said, we're not living in the past anymore. but But this one, i just thought was the strongest so far. Maybe not in the character department.
00:06:22
Speaker
A lot of the characters are just like archetypes. I feel like they do subvert some of the archetypes a little bit. I just think, for the most part, all of the like death sequences in this movie are...
00:06:36
Speaker
the most well thought out and most well executed the tension that I felt throughout all of them was great watching it a couple months ago and watching it for this podcast I both times I felt tense and then when the actual violence would kick in I was squirming in my seat and felt really uncomfortable and uh So I found this one to be pretty effective like throughout.
00:07:05
Speaker
We'll get more into the characters and what I thought about them, but when it comes to the kill department and what this franchise does, this one works the most for me. I found this one to be the most thrilling and pulse-pounding.
00:07:19
Speaker
Damn, did we watch the same movie? Because they do not
Personal Fears and Film Parallels
00:07:24
Speaker
agree with any of that. Oh my God. so We are going to be battling it out in this one and I am for it because...
00:07:35
Speaker
Yeah, there were just like so many things I felt went wrong in here. And to me right now, it's pretty tied with the final destination. So yeah, I'll get more into it yeah I'll get more into it like as we go through. Spoilers ahead, guys, for Final Destination 5.
00:07:58
Speaker
Start us off, Nick, on your great love for this film because I did not expect that. Love is a strong word, but I do quite enjoy this one.
00:08:10
Speaker
I will say, like, this whole season is just completely backwards from what I thought it was going to be. I don't know if I've said this on another episode, but...
00:08:21
Speaker
Going into this, I was like, okay, this is the season for Mercedes, I think. like She's really going to love these movies. I think these movies are her jam. I'm not too sure.
00:08:32
Speaker
And I'm just going to try not to be too critical of them. And it's totally the opposite. I'm trying not to overpraise because I understand these are kind of on the trashier side of horror and they're not really that scary to begin with.
00:08:49
Speaker
But, yeah, I didn't think you would dislike most of them, and I would be having the time of my life going through each one. You know, it's funny because there are quite a few people that I have talked to who they're like, oh, I haven't seen all the Final Destination movies, or I don't really care for them.
00:09:10
Speaker
But I was defending them like, oh, yeah, you know, one and three are great or like you know blah blah blah even like two and that was also before i had re-watched them for the podcast and now that i have done that man i feel like eating my words on this franchise because you lied to the people I guess I did. I'm so sorry to anyone who I have misled on this.
00:09:37
Speaker
I will. I have learned my lesson going forward. Guys, if you hear any weird sound effects in the background, that's Evie, our mascot. She is tearing apart her tiny rope here and wreaking havoc everywhere as usual. But yeah, she's not a fan of these films either.
00:09:57
Speaker
Evie, the the subtle hero of our podcast. I know. She's the reason everyone comes here. So do you think you're just not going to recommend these movies to people? Like if they ask you, they're like, hey, Mercedes, the morbid mistress of mayhem, you run a horror podcast.
00:10:14
Speaker
What do you think about the final destinations? Are you going to say, nope, they all suck, except I guess we have to see what you think about Bloodlines. But, you know, I'm going to say watch one, watch three, watch Bloodlines. Don't waste your time on the other ones.
00:10:32
Speaker
And then I'll be right there in the background to be like, and also watch Final Destination 2 and 5. I'm who dead in this scenario. I'm haunting you guys. You're deaf in here.
00:10:46
Speaker
I am Yeah, death got me. I didn't have a premonition and I wasn't so lucky. But yeah, this is just, you know, aside from Scream, maybe Scream will be the outlier.
00:10:58
Speaker
But the fifth entry into these horror movies, into these horror series, Seed of Chucky and Final Destination 5, that's where we really end up torn. I guess maybe Scream 5, maybe I was more negative on that one than you were.
00:11:11
Speaker
I'm not
Gymnastics Scene Analysis
00:11:12
Speaker
too sure. I don't remember. but i think so Without further ado, going start off with the opening credits. Right when I put this one on, I was like, these opening credits so refreshing after just how bad the Final Destination was.
00:11:27
Speaker
Final Destination 4, if you're unfamiliar But just the opening credits alone were better than anything that movie had to offer. And I was so happy to be watching just stuff fly through glass and wonder, how did they film this?
00:11:45
Speaker
It was just exciting in and of itself. But then, so basically, like... Without dicking around even more. We're on a break. No. It's basically this company is going on a retreat.
00:11:57
Speaker
We get introduced to our main characters, Sam and Molly. They're having some relationship trouble. Peter, he's their boss, but he's not the head honcho. Their other head honcho is Dennis.
00:12:09
Speaker
I forgot the actor's name, but he's one of the anchormen, the titular anchorman. He's also in the movie The Comebacks and a lot of other comedies. Then there's this guy, Nathan. He's in charge of the warehouse. And this girl, Olivia, she's just pretty much there to be hot, I think. And I was totally cool with it.
00:12:29
Speaker
She worked for me as a character. you know Of course she did. She was totally flushed out as a character.
00:12:40
Speaker
fully realized and then an intern I think her name is Candace I'm not too sure she doesn't s stick around that long so we don't have to really bother getting too comfortable with her name They all end up on basically a bus that's going over a bridge. And right then and there, I was like bought in. I was like, okay, unlike the other one, which took place at like a NASCAR event in like Indianapolis or wherever the fuck, this is believable. I mean, ah ah we live in an area where there's plenty of bridges. i go over the Joliet Bridge, and I'm like, when is this thing going to collapse and fall into...
00:13:18
Speaker
whatever is below it some sea monster is gonna eat it or us or whatever yeah so immediately i'm tense i mean did you find the bridge tense the bridge being under construction they're just being fucking hole without uh like a net or something to make sure these employees don't fall through Yeah, so for the opening scene, i was thinking, okay, you know, that's a good fear to play off of.
00:13:50
Speaker
We live near Chicago, there's so many bridges out there. and i I remember just specifically like side tangent randomly.
00:14:02
Speaker
I developed the fear early on of bridges because my dad would take me, my mom, my older siblings to go bike riding downtown. Like we would go bike riding all the way down to Navy Pier.
00:14:15
Speaker
So we would have to cross a few bridges. And every time we did, i would look down and like all the little holes and I'm like, fuck, this thing could fall like and I could just fall in this water and die.
00:14:28
Speaker
But also i was freaked out so much because there were always a million and one spiders in like the railings there too.
00:14:42
Speaker
So I'm trying to focus on riding just like to make sure my path is straight and not fucking fall into traffic because of these spiders and then not focus on falling in the water because I thought we were all going to die And anytime now I even approach a bridge, I have that same exact mentality. And then you feel like the bridge shake.
00:15:07
Speaker
I am not for that. So seeing this, i was like, all right, I can buy into it. You gave me a bit of an anxiety attack telling that story. I was just imagining myself in your shoes. I was like, nope, I will not do what you're describing right now.
00:15:22
Speaker
It was bad, and we would do that quite frequently. so Because I am so afraid of spiders, that was my main focus. Like, oh my God, look at how big those are. like I don't want to touch it.
00:15:34
Speaker
And not really thinking, like, your dumb ass probably going to fall over and get hit by a million cars. And i'm over here worried about falling in the water and then some spiders. So seeing this, where they have that random hole in the road It's like, what the fuck?
00:15:53
Speaker
That wouldn't happen. at least I don't think it would happen. And i don't know, though, because the way they were like kind of giving off these characters, seeing all the signs, like, oh, feeling uneasy.
00:16:09
Speaker
It didn't feel as how they did before in the other, well, the first three movies. Like, I don't know. It could be the lighting that they used for filming.
00:16:20
Speaker
But in this one, everything just looked like same lighting and everything. There was not really an uneasy feel. So that part didn't convince me. But yeah, I was a little anxious to see how this bridge scene was going to collapse.
00:16:36
Speaker
Yeah, the lighting, the look to this movie, it's very crisp. It's got a very digital look. It almost looks like how Netflix designs their movies and TV shows. They design it so it'll look good playing on like your phone or the shittiest screen you could watch it on. so And this almost has that look where you'll be able to watch it on like a shitty, tiny, cracked phone screen or something and be able to tell what's happening.
00:17:06
Speaker
the looks of... I mean, none of these movies really have that much of a visual identity, so the look of this one doesn't bother me too much. In regard to the bridge sequence
Character Dynamics Discussion
00:17:18
Speaker
itself, I don't know if they actually cut out squares like that on the bridge. I feel like that has to actually be something, because, I mean, I've seen those metal plates on roads, so maybe there is something to that, but the whole bridge collapsing, coming apart...
00:17:34
Speaker
itself I know I said this on the last episode that like going bigger is kind of the wrong instinct. And I think this movie has examples of both when of both how going bigger can work and going smaller can work. like I think all of the action and craziness from the bridge sequence... like is pretty thrilling like the olivia when she falls into the water and the car like lands on her i was trying to put myself in her shoes i was like i'd probably die i don't know like if i'd be like up and swimming i like that sucks and people like being impaled i mean the 3d element totally doesn't work but i really enjoyed
00:18:23
Speaker
how like big and chaotic it felt like a disaster movie in a way I like the this franchise doesn't always go I guess an airplane crash is a disaster I promise I'm go stop talking in a second but I'm excited to get into the small the smaller deaths too but like going big for this scene like really worked for me but like the disaster element like did you not enjoy that I mean, i thought I would enjoy it more.
00:18:53
Speaker
And I guess maybe it could just be because when I was going into this film, I'm like, okay, this film is probably going to suck. And just seeing the initial death with intern Candace, she fell off the bridge and then onto like the pole of the little sailboat.
00:19:14
Speaker
It's like, all right, we're in one of those films again. That's great. And then I was just trying to like clock each other death in here. you know, the guy who was always on his phone or just trying to hit on like all these women, he was still on the bus. and when the bus is like falling in the water,
00:19:39
Speaker
That whole scene, he like fell, I think, on the windshield and then died upon impact of hitting the water. That was even stupid. Yeah, so it's like, okay, i I don't anticipate seeing anything else that might redeem it itself here.
00:19:55
Speaker
That part, and it's not as good as the sequence in the movie I'm about to mention, so I'm not trying to offend myself. But it reminded me a bit of Jurassic Park 2.
00:20:07
Speaker
two and because of The Lost World, I'm a sucker for a bus falling and someone being in in a bus or a train or something. Like Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1 has an awesome train sequence. I'll have to send you, Mercedes. But it's like ah ah anything with like a bus or a trailer because of The Lost World, it kind of works for me. But it reminded me of that a little bit.
00:20:32
Speaker
You know, that's a good reference point because I didn't even think of that. And that is the only reason why i will watch Jurassic Park The Lost World because that scene when I saw it on TV, I think that was the part that i ah ah initially saw for that movie I was playing and it freaked me the fuck out. I was just like, that's where my anxiety was on a thousand and I could actually believe that scene. This one,
00:21:03
Speaker
this one Nope. This scene was pretty over the top, but I found it, I mean, especially in the shadow of the the final destination, this intro worked for me. But I mean, I'd say this is like in the top two of the series for me. Maybe like in Bloodlines, after we rank the movies, we can maybe rank like premonitions, which we think are the best.
00:21:29
Speaker
But this and number two are my two favorite premonitions so far. Now that we're going to rank Premonitions 2, I'm… Damn, that just opened up a whole new window for me. Okay, cool. I'm excited for that. Yeah, I feel like that'll really give us a chance to maybe be like have more freedom with our official ranking of the series because that's what's tossing me up. I'm like, I want to put this here, but this one's intro is so good. But if we rank the Premonition separately from and then have our own series ranking, I think that would make everything a whole lot easier.
00:22:07
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. I'm all for it. Yeah, but so basically, unless you wanted to do you want to go over any more of the bridge kills or you cool with hopping forward in the movie?
00:22:17
Speaker
Let's hop forward. This movie is... Let's hop forward. Let me not trash the movie yet. I think we'll fly through it. I mean, we're going to... Another case of this movie doing something the best so far in the series. I think this has the best use of Tony Todd. He
Tony Todd's Mysterious Role
00:22:33
Speaker
pops up in the next scene. He's at the funeral.
00:22:36
Speaker
He's kind of all over this movie. You agree? You think it's the best use of him? Yeah, because you get to see him more and he actually has a more lines in here. So...
00:22:51
Speaker
I was all for that. You know like can't ever really get enough of Tony Todd. But i think it was... just interesting to have him not necessarily speak in riddles in here compared to how he always does yeah he actually this is something that confused me like so towards the end when um um the character there sam goes up to him and is just like oh why are you following me and they see he's the coroner and he starts talking to them. he
00:23:26
Speaker
He says, you know, they all weren't supposed to live. They were supposed to die. So the people that did die in place of them, they technically got their lives and their years to live. And it's like, but wait a minute, you know, those people technically weren't meant to die.
00:23:47
Speaker
So if they were meant to die based death's design, does that mean those people that died in place of these people were meant to die in freak accidents like these people are?
00:24:00
Speaker
If any of that makes sense, it confused me. no I know what you mean. I got hung up on that line too. And i i thought exactly I thought he was saying exactly what you're saying.
00:24:14
Speaker
But like later in the movie, like within the context of everything, I was like, oh, is he was he telling them in order to get out of Death's design, you have to kill somebody and then you take their place and get their remaining years.
00:24:31
Speaker
I feel like maybe he was saying that and I just interpreted it wrong. But I think that was him trying to convey the information so that Peter would get it. You have to kill somebody, which also sets up the later scene of Nathan accidentally killing the his co-worker.
00:24:51
Speaker
do you Do you know what I mean? I can kind of understand that. I'm trying to i'm sure to relate it back to you know part two where he's saying you know new life can defeat death or whatever, so that had Kimberly kill herself and then you know that essentially just like wipe the slate clean with everything.
00:25:16
Speaker
I don't know. It still confuses me. Yeah, also, how does Tony Todd know that you have to kill... If you kill somebody, you take their place and you get their remaining years.
00:25:30
Speaker
I kind of have a little bit of a ah ah theory on that, which I think I'm just going to say for the Bloodlines episode because I have a whole idea for what I think Final Destination 7 is.
00:25:44
Speaker
Could be. And I hope I remember to bring up what's in my head right now, but I don't want to like spoil bloodlines and go down a whole bloodline spoiler just yet since we're so early in the movie.
00:25:56
Speaker
No, that's cool. And I feel like I'm going to go on so many side tangents and I'm sorry. But it's because just how Tony Todd appears in all of the majority of all these films and he just has something to say, but he has a little bit more of a part to play in this one.
00:26:15
Speaker
I just started remembering movie Tales from the Hood. Have you seen Tales from the Hood? i have not. Oh my God, we are going to have to cover that for this So it's kind of, yeah, it's like an anthology.
00:26:28
Speaker
And, you know, the beginning, like spoilers free, you know, these three guys, that they are trying to, you know, and conduct a drug deal at a funeral home.
00:26:39
Speaker
And Clarence Williams III, he plays plays um the mortician there. And he is so fucking creepy throughout the entire film like just him smiling is fucking oh my god just like
LASIK Scene Horror
00:26:59
Speaker
hard to watch once he appears on screen and he just talks them through each and every story based on all the deceased victims he has in the funeral home.
00:27:15
Speaker
But i don't know. I was kind of getting a little bit of that vibe from Tony Todd in this one, probably because I just watched Tales from the Hood the other night. But yeah, it's kind of the same thing. Definitely you should check it out.
00:27:28
Speaker
I will definitely check it out, especially with Halloween coming up. I'm ready to get into just like a watch horror movies every day kind of mindset. And I've been trying to check out new horror movies while I've been doing that. So especially if you give me a reminder, I'll put that one on the list.
00:27:48
Speaker
Maybe while listening to this, that'll be a good reminder too. Dope, dope. But yeah, i we already said this. I think this is, yeah, the best use of Tony Todd. And we'll get into him more throughout the rest of this episode and the next one.
00:28:02
Speaker
But then we're on to the gymnastics scene where it's fucking... What's it called? Peter and the intern that he's hooking up with. And ah ah this is what...
00:28:12
Speaker
I was going to say where I mean like the movie going smaller really works. It's just like focusing on a screw this whole time and like a little bit of water that's trickling because we all know death loves water. There's a couple fucking ways he uses a cup of water or water and like water trickling somewhere.
00:28:35
Speaker
Yeah, I love the focus on the screw and just wondering what's going to happen. I was, again, tense the whole time. Gymnastics is just inherently scary to me. The idea of, like, you land wrong and you fucked up your leg and this chick ends up getting, like,
00:28:52
Speaker
folded the in a way she shouldn't get folded and split in the half and it's all disgusting just because a different gymnastic ah ah different gymnast lands on the screw and throws everything off I mean I thought the sequence was great it was a favorite of mine and in the franchise I'd say it was absolutely horrifying and tense You know, when the scene was building up, I didn't know how I was going to feel about it. So, you know, thinking, okay, you know, we're going to be following some gymnasts that can obviously make some people cringe because like I never really paid attention to, you know, that sport before.
00:29:34
Speaker
But, yeah, once they were focusing – you know, like their hands, their feet, just like even hearing the impact of them just like landing whatever move they were trying to hit.
00:29:47
Speaker
I was getting a little anxious. And then, yeah, that one singular screw that's coming loose. It's like, fuck, what's going to happen? And then, yeah, with the water just like dripping down, you would think one of these scenes would have someone like choke on water you know how when you drink something and like yeah down like the wrong pipe yeah just for like a second though or like they really drag it out and you're like oh my god is this how he's gonna die
00:30:19
Speaker
I know, right? Something basic like that. but yeah so Seeing her, I actually felt a little bad. you know She was nervous. She's kind of freaking out. and you know Her boss, whatever, who I didn't like, honestly. I thought he was a dick trying to just say, like oh you know we have to you know be professional, but you know you can still come to my room so we can hook up later.
00:30:44
Speaker
She wasn't fazed by it. At least when they went to like the you know a funeral service that they had for everyone who had passed away, like he was like you know showing that they were together. He had like his armor on her.
00:31:01
Speaker
So that kind of redeemed himself for me. But... Here, you know he's trying to just tell her, like you know it'll be okay, you know blah, blah, blah. and I felt bad for him because he's seeing her you know do her thing. He's happy. He's proud.
00:31:18
Speaker
and Then she just fucking yeah folds like a pretzel. Her bones are sticking out. like I had to look away at that little part because once I saw that bone protrude from her leg, and no, no, no. We don't fuck with stuff like that here.
00:31:34
Speaker
Yeah, you can under you can understand a little bit like why Peter would lose his mind by the end of this thing. i mean, he does go way off the deep end to the point where I'm like, dude, you're way too comfortable. You've turned into a full-on slasher villain. You're holding a knife, chasing a woman. It's kind of funny.
00:31:57
Speaker
I wonder if that's kind of like a, a little joke or a nod towards the fact that this is a series without a slasher mascot or slasher villain that you can see.
00:32:10
Speaker
They for a second create like a slasher villain in Peter. But yeah, that that's such a horrible thing to, to have to witness.
00:32:22
Speaker
But I think that that's kind of why this movie is a bit stronger for me, too. Even though the characters aren't quite as good or developed, I guess I'd say, as the two leads in number three...
00:32:37
Speaker
They make you care about the characters. Not all of them are so unlikable like in the last movie. This one only has like maybe one unlikable guy. like The actor who plays Dennis, when he showed up, I was like, oh, this guy's going to be an asshole.
00:32:54
Speaker
And even he was pretty likable. They're like boss's boss. Yeah. Olivia, when I saw like stereotypical hot girl, I was like, oh, she's going to be unlikable. But I think she's pretty likable, too. She just has a weird beef with Candace because for some reason, some women just like to hate each other, it seems.
00:33:13
Speaker
Yeah. you know but i got an example of that in real life today and i was like man some women just hate they like to tear down other women and i don't get it please elaborate that i need to i need to know this now Okay, I guess I could say it. So there was an ad that had Jennifer Lawrence on it, and somebody... I was with a couple women, and like someone who I was with was like, Jennifer Lawrence, who does she think she is?
00:33:47
Speaker
Going away for so long and coming back like we're supposed to care. It's like... Damn, she won an Oscar and decided to take a break. What is that vicious? like Why do you just want to tear her down? What did she do?
00:34:00
Speaker
Just being a successful woman, i was like, where did that hate come from? It seemed like you just wanted to tear her down, you know? You know, I won't lie. i have fallen victim in that category too.
00:34:16
Speaker
And funnier thing is that I saw a meme like a long ass time ago and it was like, you know, women hate on each other for no reason. Like there's, and then it just cuts to like this girl talking to someone else. Like, look at this bitch eating
Societal Pressures and Criticism
00:34:34
Speaker
chips. Like she owns the place in here. And I'm like, why is that so valid?
00:34:40
Speaker
Yeah, I actually had this conversation with my girlfriend, and I won't ah speak for her, but she pointed to the patriarchy as the reason for that.
00:34:52
Speaker
But yeah, I don't know. It's just something that I noticed a couple times. Like, Celine Song, that's a new, like, female director. And her past two movies, Past Lives and The Materialist, movies that, like, I've loved.
00:35:05
Speaker
I've noticed, like, women particularly have been super vicious and, like, have been specifically going for Celine Song as a person and as a writer.
00:35:17
Speaker
And I was just like, where is this viciousness coming from? Shouldn't you want to like raise her up? She's like, oh there's not that many female filmmakers. Shouldn't we want more female filmmakers?
00:35:31
Speaker
It's because women are mean. That's why. I know maybe it's the, you know, I feel like I'm sounding like such an asshole right now. And it just, I know that guys have it in them too, but yeah, it's just something I've kind of noticed where I'm like, why are we tearing down these women? Like, aren't there other people we can be tearing down who are much worse, who have done worse things?
00:35:56
Speaker
Yeah, and even I've seen this on TV a lot, and like I do think it's true too, where if you have guys like playing jokes on each other on each other or talking shit to each other, like they can keep it just playful, and they be they can be perfectly fine after. But if women do it, they start taking it personally after a while, and that is also very true.
00:36:22
Speaker
And, you know, I'd be lying if I didn't... I take things pretty personally, too. So I'm in that boat. Same. Just to maybe level the playing field a little bit. But anyway, so speaking of terrible people, the there's a character. i don't know what his name is. I just have him as asshole, unbearable guy in my notes.
00:36:47
Speaker
But he's like the womanizing guy. he goes in He like is going through the desks of, I think, some of the deceased like co-workers, and he takes a massage coupon from one of their desks and goes to get a massage and is just being awful to these women at this place. and then he gets Have you had acupuncture, actually?
00:37:11
Speaker
i have, actually. like Not too long ago. It's not that bad, right? I haven't had it done, but it's not painful, right? It's not really painful. i obviously was nervous because I was like, damn, that's going to be a bunch of needles like in my body.
00:37:31
Speaker
But you know the woman who did it, she was explaining it all. And when she would puncture my skin, she did it super quick. It just felt...
00:37:42
Speaker
strange after because she put like, a red led lamp on me and left me there for like, maybe I'd say like 10, 15 minutes. and she's like, just relax. And at first I freaked out because i had to call her back. The lamp was like burning my legs.
00:38:03
Speaker
And cause that was where I was focusing on cause I was dealing with some knee pain and you know, she, she just adjusted it for me. But, After ah ah few moments, I just felt like my body just kind of like sinking into the bed. I'm like, is this normal? Is this how I'm supposed to feel?
00:38:21
Speaker
So it's an interesting experience. I would go back for it because I felt like pretty limber after. But yeah, it's not as painful as I anticipated.
00:38:32
Speaker
I think I'm eventually going to have acupuncture done. It seems and interesting enough. But I mean, I talked about this on a couple other episodes. These movies haven't really made me afraid of doing any of the things that cause the death in these situations.
00:38:52
Speaker
And but this one does make me a bit afraid of everything. Like the bridge thing is pretty terrifying. I do think that I'm going to think about this movie the more i every time I go over a bridge, um bridge, um the gymnastics thing.
00:39:08
Speaker
i already had a fear, but I'm just going to be thinking about it even more every time I watch the gymnastics thing. And God, it just, I mean, I'm never going to trust a massage table that seems rickety.
00:39:22
Speaker
Like if it seems slightly rickety, I'm going to be like, all right, do you have tools? I will tighten this thing up if need be, because I'm not going to risk falling on my face, especially getting acupuncture. But Without giving this guy too much lip service, I'd love to see him go. Love to see the Buddha fall on his face. I mean, what did you think of the racist womanizer?
00:39:46
Speaker
He was... Oh, my God. I was just waiting for him to die Like, even for him to have the nerve to be talking on the phone to a girl he was, like, just flirting with and then hanging up with her to flirt with the receptionist and then, you know, just assume that she was going to be doing a service on him and then be such an asshole to the actual service provider provider um who was doing, what is it called when they break all, oh, break all the bones, crack all your bones?
00:40:23
Speaker
What is that called? Chiropractor? Yeah, that. She's doing all that to him and I'm like, oh my God, is that how he's going to die? Like she's just going to like break his spine or something? I was waiting for yeah that to be how he met his demise. But yeah, for him to just like,
00:40:41
Speaker
fall over onto all those needles. i didn't want to look at that part, but it was just like, okay, seriously, come on now. that's That's a little overstretching there. and Then, yeah, once the Buddha fell on him, I'm like, ah well, you deserved it, but that was kind of a ah ah lame kill in my eyes.
00:41:01
Speaker
I did like the Fake out a little bit when he falls off the table and it's like, okay, did the needles go through him and kill him? Did he die in that impact somehow?
00:41:12
Speaker
And there's a camera. It's like a zoom on him. And then he like wakes up almost played as like a little bit of a jump. And I had a thought in that moment. I was like, this is at the very least a really competently directed movie. the, the guy knew where to put the camera and he put it in kind of interesting places, I guess.
00:41:35
Speaker
But, uh, Yeah, I was just waiting for this guy to die. it It was pretty hard to watch him pull the needle out of his chest where his heart would be. I was like, God, did that puncture your heart? Leave it in, dude, or take it out. I don't know what to do.
00:41:50
Speaker
why Why are you asking me? I'm not a doctor. You're supposed to leave them in until you can get actual medical attention. Oh, man. It was so well done.
00:42:04
Speaker
Also, the fire going in the background. i don't know. I'm glad this guy didn't get any kind of a happy ending. just It was really bothering me the whole time he was at that front desk and he was just like...
00:42:18
Speaker
being like i want someone with a happy ending and all that and then the lady was walking in front of him and he's like i'll walk a little slower or whatever i don't remember what he said but i was just like oh my god like guys this is too much you can make an unlikable character but you're putting a bit a little bit too much paprika on the sandwich to steal a term from a different podcast I like that. It's just too much.
00:42:44
Speaker
Yeah, that's credit to Blank Check Podcast. They came up with that one. I knew it. and yeah I knew I'm going to have use that now. But yeah, because while he's following the receptionist and he's like, you know, just like cat calling her, essentially, another woman walks by and then he like full on puts his attention on this girl. And it's like, dude,
00:43:08
Speaker
Chill the fuck out. We know like your main goal is to get your wiener wet right now. But like, come on, relax. You know, just get ready to die. he has energy of someone who's never actually gotten laid before.
00:43:23
Speaker
i like That thought just came into my mind. I was like, is this guy a virgin, actually? I mean, that spa scene is somewhat reminiscent of like the 40-year-old virgin spa scene. Maybe, i guess. you know Who knows?
00:43:39
Speaker
Maybe this movie is paying homages. The Lost World, Jurassic Park, 40-year-old virgin. Two iconic movies, maybe. Maybe. Maybe.
00:43:50
Speaker
But yeah, I don't remember where I was going with that. Anyway, on to the next one. Did you have anything else to say ah ah about that guy? No, I'm glad he's dead. Yeah, same here. Good riddance.
00:44:04
Speaker
And um I like that we haven't even named him as far as I know. I think his name was...
00:44:12
Speaker
Maybe I'll bleep that. I don't know. Yeah, just bleep it. No one needs to know. He he wasn't memorable. But so then the next scene is their Tony Todd interaction. we already talked about that one.
00:44:27
Speaker
It is weird that he does know that. I don't know if I said this already. that and ipo So I apologize if I did. But it is weird that he already knows that if you take somebody's life, you get their extra time. It's like, how do you know that? Have you taken somebody's life before Tony Todd?
00:44:48
Speaker
Where are you getting your information from? one thing... one thing I did really enjoy about this movie too. There's no point where anybody looks up flight one 80 and any past events. And right there's a reason for that, but I noticed that at one point. And then also, no, these characters are talking about Paris a lot for some reason. and I don't know that that means anything, but they keep talking about going to Paris.
00:45:19
Speaker
and know if you caught that, the 700 times. Yes, was like, what is with Paris in these films? like Me personally, I would not want to go, oh, that's a lie. You got the catacombs out there.
00:45:33
Speaker
But they were really like talking about that through these films, so it's like, damn, okay. and i didn't I didn't really realize why.
00:45:44
Speaker
Until they finally showed why. And i was like, oh, okay. That makes sense now. i didn't either. I had heard. so we're already in the spoilers. i won't give away the full ending. But I had heard that this movie was a prequel.
00:45:59
Speaker
and Not this one. I heard one of them was a prequel. And I was like, all right, which one? And then when I was watching
The Prequel Revelation
00:46:05
Speaker
this for the first time, I was like, oh, okay, this is the one. And then re-watching it for the podcast, I thought, like, they do say Paris a shitload in this movie. It's, like, kind of obvious. Like, they're dangling it right in front of your face, much like... another movie we covered on this podcast that I was about to spoil, but I won't just in case people haven't seen it.
00:46:32
Speaker
But that might be a hint. yeah, so... Basically, that takes us to Olivia's death with the LASIK procedure.
00:46:43
Speaker
This, I might actually not get LASIK after watching this. This was absolutely horrifying. And I mean, it's not even the laser that kills her. They just torture her for nothing.
00:46:55
Speaker
Offer her to fall out a window. I felt so bad. i was like, Olivia, you were the best we ever had. You and me. You know, you're quote unquote baby fat.
00:47:08
Speaker
I hated to see her go. I thought she was the hero of this. I thought it was going to be a real Sigourney Weaver in Aliens where everybody dies except for her. And I suppose for a fucking over 30, 40 year old movie.
00:47:25
Speaker
However old alien is. I thought, you know, Olivia, but we were going be riding with her to the end and she was going to survive and be the one of two survivors in the franchise. And it was going to be, everything was going to looking up Olivia, but no, she fell out of a easily breakable window.
00:47:42
Speaker
Yeah, that whole setup, I was like, damn, we're going to focus on eyeballs here. Like, okay, that is a legitimate fear. Like my siblings, other people I know, they were always freaked out when, you know, I would put my contacts in or I would suggest for them to get contacts. And they're like, no, because and don't want to touch my eye. Like I'm ah i'm afraid to do that, you know, whatever.
00:48:06
Speaker
Some of them have been able to conquer that fear. and like even I've been trying to look up like eye procedures because I'm tired of wearing my contacts and my glasses.
00:48:18
Speaker
So yeah, watching that, I'm like, crap, what are we going to see here? So just that tool alone to keep her eyelids open.
00:48:29
Speaker
And then you see her eye tearing up and it's just like moving around. oh That made me freak out so bad. This was i know I said earlier, like I had to pull away or look away for some of the scenes. But like this one, i did not watch. I was just like looking at it from my peripheral because I couldn't handle that.
00:48:53
Speaker
so i look back and it was at the point where like the laser was like just on her hand or on her face i'm like fuck man this bitch is gonna die from getting blinded by this damn laser and then yeah she fucking just falls out a window oh my god she had it rough i'm not gonna lie she had it rough Yeah, that... The iShit was so hard to watch. I was actually... on my lunch break at work was watching a recap video in my car while I was eating a sandwich. And when the iStuff...
00:49:27
Speaker
A lot of the stuff I was like, oh, this one's harder to watch while eating. And then when the LASIK stuff started happening, I was like, I'm not going to watch this while I'm eating right now.
00:49:38
Speaker
Smart man. Yeah, I turned it off. It was very upsetting and gross. The idea of a laser going into the eye that you can't stop. And her eye was being pried open.
00:49:50
Speaker
it felt very ah clockwork orange to me. this scene is also another example of water using electricity and uh also this doctor just so irresponsible like leaving her hooked up to that machine and then walking out of the room right that was trash Yeah, this guy should be but should lose his license and be sued for malpractice, if possible.
00:50:19
Speaker
And the final nail to the coffin, the little button the scene ends is Olivia's good eye pops out of her skull. And after she like falls out the window onto a car, the eye rolls towards the screen. I think there this one must have had a 3D gimmick, but it luckily doesn't water like ruin all of the kills like the last one did.
00:50:45
Speaker
but The eye rolls towards the screen and then a car runs over it. i was like, oh, that's gross. They always got to show a car running over someone or something. Yeah, that eye was, the eye stuff is just a lot. But yeah, this scene is memorably disgusting and it sucked that it happened to someone as wonderful and perfect as Olivia was.
00:51:08
Speaker
She had like four lines in here. And those lines were masterful. she She should have gotten nominated and for an Oscar and won like Alec Baldwin and Glen Gary, Glen Ross. I think that's the movie where he delivers that iconic monologue.
00:51:29
Speaker
I could be wrong, listeners. Don't at me. Never write into me. I won't respond.
00:51:39
Speaker
Damn. So if they want to get to know you, you won't respond to them? Wow. All right, guys, you finally heard him. You heard the truth here. You're always throwing me under the bus. Now it's your turn.
00:51:51
Speaker
No, don't. If you correct me, i won't respond. ah It's all good. We're here for fun, guys. We're here for fun. I'll feel embarrassed and I'll probably mention it on the podcast and tell everybody I was wrong and try to make a correction immediately. It's okay. We'll both cry in our own corners when they correct us because it's bound to happen.
00:52:15
Speaker
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00:52:28
Speaker
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00:52:41
Speaker
Someone like just telepathically put it in your head. So that is why. Yeah. But so, ah ah so far in the movie where I'm sitting at right now, at least from reading my notes is that every death sequence is like top tier for the franchise. I think so far, like,
00:53:02
Speaker
This is cooking with gas right now. I'm smelling bacon, and it's smelling good. I'm liking what this Final Destination's cooking. It's something with bacon, apparently.
00:53:14
Speaker
I mean, you hate these death sequences. You're going to tell me these are bad. What's going on? I mean, some of them. Did you watch on a bad or something?
00:53:27
Speaker
I mean, I did watch it while I was sick, so that could also be why. and i Good point. Also, I'm just ready for fucking Bloodlines again. i just want to revisit that so damn bad I should have saw it twice when I was in theaters, but I only saw it once.
00:53:45
Speaker
But yeah, the concept of some of these kill scenes in here are okay. and The bridge, yes. The eyeball scene, yes.
00:53:55
Speaker
Everything else... Doesn't work. Like it's not to the point where I'm getting paranoid about that. Like at least with the first one, the second one, I'm walking around after watching it and feeling pretty paranoid about every single thing I do or whatever I touch, whatever.
00:54:14
Speaker
You're looking at water differently. You're like, that water's exact moving so slow towards something. i don't know what. like like That water is too clear. Exactly. so yeah This one doesn't work. It doesn't have that scare tactic that all the other ones had. so i mean If you want to give this movie all the praise in the world, by all means, do whatever floats your little boat, Nick. I wonder how other people really feel about this one. I don't know.
00:54:45
Speaker
But yeah, I'm riding riding high. ah The next couple of deaths, like the movie ah ah starts to peter out a little bit.
00:54:55
Speaker
We got a Nathan accidentally killing this guy named Roy, I think. They get an argument about Nathan cutting Roy's hours and Nathan's like, everybody's hours got cut. There's an investigation or whatever going on. And a hook drops.
00:55:12
Speaker
I mean, Nathan is trying to save Roy, but apparently he killed Roy. But a hook drops, knocks out like a part of the platform that they're on. Roy falls to his death, holding the hook. And the hook, like he lands to where the hook stabs up through the bottom of his jaw, through his head.
00:55:32
Speaker
It's a pretty fucked up way to go. It sounds awful. ah Just imagining that. that I feel like you would feel it going through your jaw before you died. It's pretty horrific, but you don't really see it happen, though. You see the aftermath.
00:55:49
Speaker
But this is the first real playing with the format that the movie does. Nathan essentially kills him. Peter's like, did you kill him? Did you? but Like, Peter's already a fucking psycho at this point. It's like, Peter, what is happening to you right now? Like...
00:56:05
Speaker
go see a therapist, but at least he's being affected by the deaths, unlike most of the other movies, if not all of the other movies except for three. But yeah, then roy or Nathan basically has the rest of Roy's lifespan.
00:56:21
Speaker
I think it's an okay concept. I don't love it. I don't really need it in the movie, but it
Concluding Thoughts on Final Fates
00:56:28
Speaker
makes for a funny bit at the end that we'll get into That one, no, it just also didn't work for me. like Seeing the aftermath of it, I was like, oh, shit. you know It went through like his jaw. It's basically coming out of his mouth. Okay.
00:56:46
Speaker
The stupid witch saw movie was it when the guy was like lying that he was in a jigsaw trap and claimed that he had to like put hooks in his chest or something to climb up and...
00:57:01
Speaker
you know release himself I don't remember which one that was but i don't either but I know it sounds familiar I've seen almost all of the Saw movies but I can't place which one that was yeah that one I can't remember but even though knowing that guy was lying that he was in that trap knowing he was going to have to do some type of trap like that at the end that freaked me out more than this kill in here That makes me kind of want to but see the Saw sequence that you're talking about and see how I feel about that. But I would imagine that the Saw, that sequence in Saw was probably way more visually interesting. I think Saw is known for... I'd say Saw probably has more visually interesting kills all around in their series than the Final Destination series, especially considering...
00:57:55
Speaker
There's one entry in this series with just like mostly, if not all, stinkers when it comes to the the kills they have to offer. But yeah, that kill was...
00:58:08
Speaker
Okay, kind of just fine. More so upsetting, if anything. And then Dennis gets a wrench or something to the head. They're all like, who's next? Who's next?
00:58:18
Speaker
And there's a fucking like belt sander or something going off, and it shoots a wrench yeah through Dennis' head. And it's like, he was next. Oh, my God. And then we're down to, yeah, but just the final three, Peter, Sam, and Molly, I think.
00:58:36
Speaker
Yeah. So when, you know, Sam and Molly, they're trying to, you know, rekindle their relationship and he wants her to go with him to Paris when he takes his internship.
00:58:49
Speaker
You're like, OK, well, you know, you're getting like their little like cute moment, whatever. But then Peter comes in and this part, I thought it was copying part three a little too much where Ian was going after Wendy and just like saying like, hey, you know, how do we start this shit off? Like, and then realizing he causes her death and he's doing it out of revenge for his girlfriend who got killed and he blamed Wendy for that.
00:59:21
Speaker
So now with this, Peter's just like questioning them and saying like, you know, we don't deserve to die Like all these people don't deserve to die. Candace didn't deserve to die. But Molly, why do you deserve to live? I'm like, oh, my God, here we go.
00:59:38
Speaker
And then, yeah, is trying to like come out and kill her. Like, I get it, dude. You're crushed by your girl not being alive anymore. But what the fuck are you doing here?
00:59:50
Speaker
So a couple things you mentioned. I actually didn't pick up that it was doing the same thing that they did in three. That's a good point. I feel like this executes it a bit better. i like Peter more than I liked Ian, and I liked the gymnastics girl more than I liked Aaron, I feel like. I think those were their names, Ian and Aaron.
01:00:10
Speaker
but MCR in misery business, yeah. Yes, MCR and Misery Business, of course. I i like Peter and the intern girl, gymnastics girl, a bit more than those two characters.
01:00:28
Speaker
And then you had mentioned them rekindling their love. I find it kind of cute that the reason they're going through a rough patch is because she wants him to live out his dreams as a chef in Paris. It's like, oh, I thought you guys were going through like turmoil. Like maybe like somebody cheated.
01:00:49
Speaker
It's like, that's so fixable. Like just have a conversation. And i mean, they do. And it's, it's pretty nice. I'd say. okay So what comes next?
01:01:01
Speaker
No, he's Peter's chasing Molly around in the kitchen, and there's like that whole kitchen scene where he's even trying to... like I think he tried to shoot at Sam or something. Sam fell, and like a knife was spinning and fell, but it didn't even fall on him. It just like barely missed him.
01:01:22
Speaker
and Peter just walks past like, I guess it's not your time to die, or whatever he says. The part... One thing I didn't pick up on actually was the fact that Molly didn't die in the opening. And I was kind of confused. I was like, wait, why won't Peter kill Sam, but he'll kill Molly. And then he was like, death doesn't want you. Death wants Sam. And i was like, I just completely missed that. She died in the intro. I mean was that made obvious? Did you notice that she didn't die in the intro? Yeah.
01:01:53
Speaker
I did because once they showed Sam dying, I was like, oh, well, they all didn't die. That girl didn't die. So I wonder if that's going to play like a key element later on in the film. Yeah,
01:02:08
Speaker
yeah i I picked up on it, but I don't like how they tried to execute like Peter trying to kill her off because of that whole thing. Yeah, Peter turns into a full-on psycho. It's like weird that he's like, I can kill somebody that I know, but he can't kill like a homeless person or something.
01:02:28
Speaker
And he ends up killing Courtney B. Vance, his detective character. at one point and then i was like okay good you can stop this and then he's like you witnessed me kill a federal agent it's like okay dude come on i'm sure like you're gonna have way more on your hands when you kill them maybe i don't know it's just it seems messy quit while you're a ahead dude but he decides to double down he's like i'm gonna kill everybody i'm a murderer now i'm a villain and
01:02:59
Speaker
i While I didn't fully love it, i do feel like it's a stronger ending than some of these Final Destination movies that have had. I think it's stronger than the first one, the like chaos of the first one. and I think it's a bit stronger.
01:03:16
Speaker
like i mean aaron or Ian doesn't really do anything like memorable. We've talked about that in Final Destination 3, but... He doesn't really get a serviceable ending and Peter at least gets moments that are something, I guess.
01:03:35
Speaker
Yeah, with Peter, i I will give him credit. like At least you see him down spiraling. and He probably feels a lot of guilt too just because, like damn, you know like I was keeping our relationship hidden and now she now she's dead. so Feeling all of that guilt and then just like questioning what the fuck is going on with everything else right now And why is it that this guy's girl gets to live what mine's didn't?
01:04:07
Speaker
Yeah, he is a better character than ian but I don't know. I still like Ian and Aaron. No, I get you. And it's not even more so... Well, maybe he is a better character than Ian. I don't know. My girlfriend kept calling him Dave Franco the whole time were watching him. my God, right? Yeah, so maybe he has that going for him too. It's like he looks like a charismatic actor, even though...
01:04:31
Speaker
I must say, I think I'm out on the Dave Franco train. I saw that movie together, and I know people love that movie, but God, that movie did not work for me at all. People are like, it's so gross. I was like, no, it's not that gross. And I'm just... Dave Franco was like sweaty, and i was just like, I don't know. I'm not...
01:04:52
Speaker
Loving it. Alison Brie, too, from Scream 4, I think it was. Yeah, Scream 4 was in it. And yeah, I didn't like that movie that much.
01:05:04
Speaker
So far I guess that was my together corner. But yeah, so I think I'm a little out on Dave Franco. and But yeah, he did have Franco vibes.
01:05:14
Speaker
My girlfriend kept being like, he's one of the Francos. Which of the three Francos is he? And I was like, I think there's only two Francos. No, literally. ah ah Literally, because I was watching this. I'm like, that straight up looks like fucking Dave Franco. So yeah, no, I agree with her 100% on that. Yeah. he So yeah, he's got that going for him.
01:05:36
Speaker
Whereas Ian looks like My Chemical Romance. Yeah, Sam eventually, he ends up killing Peter. i don't even remember how he kills Peter. Do you? i know there was like a gun that was boiling, but no, that shoots and doesn't kill anybody.
01:05:51
Speaker
Yeah, i I can't even remember how that ended up happening. um Well, the gun, I know how that, but like I don't remember how Peter dies. Yeah, so somehow Sam kills Peter.
01:06:04
Speaker
Sorry to the listeners. I mean, you guys have seen it. You know how it happened. Or maybe you all forgot. Maybe we've all collectively forgotten how Sam kills Peter, and that's the great mystery of this world is...
01:06:16
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How did Sam kill Peter in Final Destination 5? We'll be asking ourselves that for the next several years, I'm pretty sure. Probably while we rethink and reflect on Child's Play 3.
01:06:29
Speaker
Or not Child's Play 3, Seed of Chucky, sorry. Yeah, I was about to say, i feel like we try not to think about Child's Prayer. Yeah, yeah. I don't know why I said Child's Prayer 3. I mean, we did commit to Seed of Chucky ah having an annual Seed of Chucky episode.
01:06:45
Speaker
Wait, what? When did we agree? I'm pretty sure we did on the episode. We signed a blood oath, blood contract. It was like the Losers Club and the Andy Muschietti It movie. Yeah.
01:06:58
Speaker
um can't see this, but I just gave it Nick like a horrendous look. like We did not agree to that. I think we did. We should have a live event where Seed of Chucky rehashed and we get the listeners, the attendees in on the debate.
01:07:19
Speaker
Okay, if we can get ah pool of people to actually like want that I'll be open to considering it. So we'll see. We'll see if we get like the audience for it.
01:07:32
Speaker
Yeah, it would be in the Chicagoland area. So our Chicago listeners, you know, follow us on Instagram at morbid underscore curiosities underscore pod. And let us know if that's something you'd be interested in attending. And, you know, maybe we'll try to get it set up some type of seat of Chucky.
01:07:49
Speaker
live event we'll do it every year it'll be seatd of chuck e fast and seat and we'll just talk about seat of chucky we'll get live entertainment it'll all be dedicated to seat of chucky dude that's actually okay let me not let me not get excited for that now anyway back to this seat of seat of chucky
01:08:15
Speaker
We're bringing it back. Next week on the podcast, we'll be discussing Seed of Chucky again. but yeah, so anyway, not to keep dragging this out.
01:08:26
Speaker
Two weeks later passes. There's another time jump. This franchise just fucking loves time jumps. You know, it can't just be the next day or whatever. It's always a couple of weeks and they're like, we're in the clear.
01:08:38
Speaker
Death took a vacation or something. But so then they, you know, Sam is off on his way to Paris. He's on a plane. And you're like, ooh, like he's in the clear. He made it like he's one of the only other people to get out. Right. I mean, that's what you were thinking. Nothing suspicious. And then the movie just ends here. Right. I didn't keep going. I turned it off after that. was like, he seems safe to me.
01:09:05
Speaker
I was about to turn it off. They're on the plane and basically you see the events of the first Final Destination movie start to play out.
01:09:16
Speaker
And then it's revealed that it's been a prequel the whole time. That's why nobody bothered looking up Flight 180 this whole time. What did you think about that reveal? Did it work for you at all?
01:09:27
Speaker
I thought i was mixed about it because I was like, I didn't know that this was supposed to be a prequel. So i was like, oh, well, no wonder why no one started talking about the 180 shit like or made all those connections with this because they were on the same plane. That was kind of cool how they, you know, mesh that all together. i don't know. Just seeing the difference in film quality, I was like, damn.
01:09:54
Speaker
that's so noticeable to the point where it was bad yeah the movies definitely have uh completely different visual styles mean they were made by different uh filmmakers but i i i enjoyed the tie and i enjoyed the wraparound and it kind of keeps the trend going as we'll see without giving away the next one plays with like the idea of, okay, these don't have to be a linear narrative. We can play with time and the order of events.
01:10:28
Speaker
And I kind of ah ah appreciated that. Then... Right after, so I mean, this is like, you don't really see many horror, or many franchises in general where your lead gets burnt alive at the very end of it.
01:10:45
Speaker
I thought that was pretty fucking wild, but then it cuts to Nathan, alive and well, he made it out, he's at like memorial get-together for Roy, the employee who died, and someone comes up to him and is like,
01:11:01
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yeah, man, don't worry about killing him. He had like ah ah tumor in his head. He only, he was going to die any day now. And then Nathan's like, oh, any day now. And one of the jet engines falls from the ceiling of the bar and lands and crushes him. And that's the note we go out on. And I thought that was pretty entertaining. like, okay, like,
01:11:23
Speaker
yeah Actually, now that I say that, might take that back. I kind of wish somebody would make it out. It's like, does everybody have to die? like Nobody can escape death? I know that's the point, but it's like, come on. we just He couldn't get away. He couldn't give anybody a victory here.
01:11:42
Speaker
No, these movies are supposed to make you feel like fuck. Everything is hopeless at this point. Other movies do that a bit better, though. like These movies aren't that bleak.
01:11:54
Speaker
They're kind of like silly, and then they just end on like a bummer note, even though the it's supposed to be comical. But I was just like, come on, I wanted somebody to finally make it out. The movie doesn't really give you that.
01:12:06
Speaker
These movies don't give you that, really. I feel like that works in its favor because if someone makes it out, I feel like there's going to be like all the little theories. OK, well, why did they make it out and how are they going to die? You know, because everyone who seemed to have made it out at one point did die at some point except Kimberly. So and the the cop that she was with, too.
01:12:31
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, they don't even mention what happened to the cop. So he could have somehow not made it out of death script. These movies just don't let you get the satisfaction or any catharsis or release. It just, I don't know.
01:12:46
Speaker
I've actually, I wonder how these ones would have played in theaters. Bloodlines is the only one I've actually gotten the fortune of watching in theaters. it played really well for an audience. Did you, this one came out in 2011. Did you see it in theaters?
01:12:59
Speaker
Mm-mm. I think and for the podcast was for or the first time that I watched this one. It is pretty crazy that there was a 14-year gap between Final Destination 5 and Final Destination Bloodlines.
01:13:15
Speaker
Yeah. But I don't think we're going to see that big of a gap between six and seven because Bloodlines made all the money. i mean, horror in general has done really good this year.
01:13:26
Speaker
ah ah Bloodlines was successful, I think, 28 years. It at least broke even. i i think it's going to work out well for those. I think after the second one comes out, they're going to green light the third.
01:13:38
Speaker
Weapons way overperformed. I thought Freaky or Friday was going to beat out that one on my summer movie wager and Weapons cracked the top 10 of the summer. ah ah Megan, I can't really speak to that, but it's been a good ah ah good year for horror.
01:13:53
Speaker
Any final thoughts on Final Destination 5? Final Destination 5, more like Final Destination 5 of 5 Masterpiece. Oh my god.
01:14:07
Speaker
It's not a masterpiece. And when I'm singing these movies praises, it's I'm comparing them to like the movies within the franchise. i mean if i'm going to talk about like If I were to rank the horror franchises, Final Destination would be pretty low on the list.
01:14:25
Speaker
But talking about them within you know the context of each other, I'm having a lot of fun. And yeah, I thought this one was great in comparison to like everything we've gotten so far. I feel like aside from the fourth entry in this franchise, think It's been an upward climb.
01:14:44
Speaker
And i mean, we're going to see how we feel about Bloodlines. If you've been listening to this podcast past episodes, you already know our thoughts on Bloodlines since we've seen that one in theaters and reported it back to you after we saw it.
01:14:59
Speaker
But yeah, I enjoyed this one. I've ah ah had way more fun in this season than I expected to. And we were talking about it a bit off mic. I'm so excited for Bloodlines. I think that episode is,
01:15:13
Speaker
I mean, we won't plan to go longer on that one, but I feel like there's going to be a lot to really get into and ah ah gush over in that movie.
01:15:24
Speaker
But you got any final thoughts on the whole shindig that was Final Destination 5? FD5, as we say in the text threads?
01:15:36
Speaker
I'm just glad that i don't have to watch it again or revisit part four ever again. and yeah I'm super hyped to cover Bloodlines. haven't watched it since I watched it in theaters. So I'm excited to just revisit that and you know, dissect it more for here. And yeah, everyone just stay tuned for that.
01:16:00
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We've been Morbid Curiosities. Let's fucking go.
01:16:22
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Okay, ready. All right.
01:16:28
Speaker
I should really just write down this intro. so I know. On a napkin or something.
01:16:38
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Then when we're all famous, we can frame it like this was our original intro.