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Legally Blonde

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Okay, so it's not reeeallyy a romcom, but Emme & Katie do still have fun talking about it! Other topics include: Hair, TRL, Legally Blonde The Musical, Moonie the Chihuahua, The Real World, Boxed Chocolates, and a solid 5 minutes on Costco. 

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Segues and Humorous References

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I say, Katie, you can't, you can't do a segue if it's not a record, then it doesn't count. It doesn't count as a segue. I can do a segue anytime I damn please. You know what I love? Every time I think of segue now, I think of Arrested Development because they purposefully put, ah to was it Tobias? No, not Tobias. Job, they put Job on a segue and he would enter on a segue every time there was a segue. And it's just like comedy brilliance, man. That's extraordinary. And do you know the guy who invented the segue drove off a cliff and one and died, right? Really? Yeah. I remember someone in my middle schools
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Dad was on the team that invented the segue. Oh. Yeah. And I remember that being a big deal.
00:00:53
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So speaking of segues, we're going to segue right into. Is that my Oh my gosh. We got, be prepared for for that. Oh my god. Oh my god, you guys.
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It's surprisingly loud in the earbuds. Well, I'm also screaming singing into the mic. So um true that that ah that's how you do legally blonde the musical, which we're not talking about but goal but we are talking about the movie. And what show is this? Yeah, we got all the cross talk done before we hit record. I know, right? This is going to be a nice and snippy episode. Anyways, what do you think about the chicken and the egg? Which one came first? um I was trying to think of a really mundane thing that I could say, but to make a joke, and and I'm tired.
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I think you're doing great. Thank you. Oh my gosh, thank you. So anyways, this is, that's right guys, you guessed it.

Introduction to 'Go Get Your Girl' Podcast

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This is Go Get Your Girl, the podcast where Evan, Katie go to law school, even though the society is against them because they're too pretty and they're too personable and people don't think they're smart. And neither of us are blonde.
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Oh my god. You've been sort of blonde. I have. Have you been full blonde? I have. I went full blonde several times actually. I went full blonde in high school when I was 16, 17. I went full blonde when I was in college. I did it twice in college. um And then, ah and I was full blonde when I met Charlie. And actually I was a brunette and then I dyed my hair blonde and then I went back to a brunette. So he saw me all the way there. And then I did strawberry blonde last summer in my sort of soul quest to find myself ahhu through my hair.
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Did you find yourself?

Hair Color Experiences

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I did. I went back to the hair color. I've been dyeing it for the past like six years. Yeah. Yeah. I have never bleached my hair. I have. oh Yeah, when I was in, I did i did i did some pink for a while yeah when I was in high school, but it was like over and was like over the top of dark hair. So it was like hard to see. Yeah. You know, looks really good. oh Amazing. and And you know, I've died i've dyed my hair. um red and various faulla various different um variations on i'm the the brown, yeah my hair my very dark brown hair naturally. But no, I've never bleached my hair because I'm worried I'll lose my curls if I do. Oh, see, I didn't even think about that. I just thought um at the time, oh, who is it? Shauna something. Travis Barker had a reality show with his then wife.
00:03:59
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And I thought, and her name was Shauna, and I thought she was so cool looking. And I wanted to look like her. And so I bleached my hair. And um she was like my vibe for a hot second, which was like 2000 years. Shauna Mokler. Yeah, Shauna Mokler. Shauna Mokler. I mean, she looks like a blonde lady. Yup. Yup. She looks like a blonde lady. I thought she was so cool looking with her rock and roll. I thought it was such like a cool dichomy dichotomy. Is that the right word?
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ah like um being super like rock and roll and punk looking, but like having like blonde body hair. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, her hair is dyed. You can see her her brown roots in this fit photo, yeah. Yeah, and so I wanted like honey blonde hair with dark eyebrows and, yeah, sort of like that

Influences and Style Choices

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Marilyn Monroe does punk. ah I was going to say Courtney Love, but sure. Yeah. mary yeah I guess Courtney Love would be the closest thing. But like I was friends with a lot of people that were convinced that she killed Kurt Cobain. So I went through ah another period where did laugh term she did not ah go get your girl here, believes women, supports Courtney Love, support especially the band Hole. Yep. Go get your girl loves Hole and holes. Let's call it the band Hole.
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It's the band hole. It's the movie holes. Yes. Go get your girl loves holes and holes. There's the TikTok clip. Five minutes in. Yep. There we go. um But yeah, ah I get your fear.

Personal Hair Plans and Maintenance

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It did not kill my curls. But who knows? My hair could be way more curly had I never dyed my hair. That's true. yeah i am yeah I need to get my hair cut. I've been but talking about on this podcast for weeks about needing to get my hair cut.
00:06:01
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i I'm finally gonna do it, hopefully. And then I'm gonna talk to her. Maybe I'll, ah at the very least I might bleach my hair and do red just to get it to be a little bit lighter. Like a lighter red, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. So we'll see. Are you wanting- I don't think I'm gonna go blonde. Not anytime soon. I mean, you could do strawberry blonde or you could do highlights. Yeah, that's true. um Going bond is expensive. That's the thing is that like when I was in high school and in college, I did it the cheapest way possible. I did highlights once in high school where I didn't have to pay for it. So I didn't realize at the time how expensive it is.
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and then um And then whenever I was like angsty enough to like go full bleach, I thought it was way more punk rock to go and get bleach from Hot Topic. And oh, hey there. That's what Caitlin does. Caitlin, my partner's hair is is very pink. Very pinky. It looks fabulous. It does. It looks great. And she bleaches it herself. And I mean i help. Um, and we, we've always done it at home, but I don't think because of like the danger of the curl thing, I i would don't think I would do that. I think I would have to get it done in a salon. Oh, for sure. And like I, last year when I was going through my hair journey, I was doing it as well. And it's just, it's so expensive and it's yeah so tedious and I love it at first. And then I remember how much work and effort it takes to like, keep it blonde and how annoyed do you get when your roots come in. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And my hair grows so fast too. Yeah.
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Yeah, so that's the thing is that like you need like like highlights would be good because those you can have for like a while. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. Highlight. Stay tuned here on Go Get Your Girl for Katie's hair updates. Katie's hair updates. I almost said Katie's hairy updates. And I was like, that's not right. Because Katie and Harry. One of the one of the least hairy people you'll meet. Katie's hair. See, now I want to just say it.
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it's hard to it's It's hard to sing with a word that ends in a line.

Deep Dive into 'Legally Blonde'

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Hair! Hair! There is a famous musical called Hair, all about hair. But then then they go, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair. Hair, famously actually featured in today's movie, Legally Blonde. That's right, we're talking Legally Blonde. Give us some stats, Katie. Legally Blonde, I do not have my notebook. ah
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Because my dear friend is going, went through a breakup a couple weeks ago and she had never seen this movie and I was like, and she needed some cheering up and I'm like, we're watching Legally Blonde. And so we watched Legally Blonde. And I mentioned that to you and I think that's what put the idea in your head to do this. It is, it is, it is exactly what put the idea. So I did not watch it again because I watched it like, 14 days ago. Yeah. Still fresh in your mind. Yeah. ah Legally Blonde is directed by, oh, first of all, it Legally Blonde is from 2001. Oh my God, 2001. I know. I would have guessed like 2004. No. Well, because they're they're the class of 2004. Oh, that's right. They are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But she's a, but it's her first year in law school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Robert Lukatic, Robert Lukatic,
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who has also, who also, oh, he directed episodes of Schmigadoon. Love that. um A lot of TV, he directed Win a Date with Tadd Hamilton. Oh, really? Which yeah is a garbage movie that we will talk about on this podcast at some point. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen that since like, what was that made in 2002? 2004. 2004, yeah. It is the most like, in cell like this little shit thinks he deserves this girl like fuck Topher graces character in win a date with Tom Hamilton like fuck that guy. Yeah, and also is Topher grace problematic? Did Topher grace do some questionable things? I know Topher grace had some questionable friends.
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Uh, oh, wait, who were his questionable friends? Oh, you're talking, you mean, um, the, the guy from that 70s show who? Nope. I remember seeing something on, um, cause Topher Grace. Oh, no, wait, I'm thinking of Tobey Maguire. thinking of toby maguire i know yeah You're talking about the pussy posse Emma. Yeah, the pussy posse. Which in the 90s was Leonardo DiCaprio and Tobey Maguire and somebody else and they called themselves the pussy posse and they were trolling LA for
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So disgusting. Pussy, I guess. Yeah, I guess. But like one of them, what documentary? I saw some sort of documentary or some sort of behind the scenes thing that was like about a serial date rapist or a guy who cried on 14-year-old girls. And the pussy posse was at the party. It was at one of this party. Yeah, that makes sense. As far as I know, ah Danny Masterson is the um sex offender from that 70s show that I was trying to think I think that Topher Grayson, he were probably friends when they were on the show, but I don't think that he has been canceled. No, not Topher. I was thinking of Tobey Maguire. Yes, yes.
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yeah So Legally Blonde, directed by Robert luke luke katic Lucatic, who directed Winner Date with Chad Hamilton. He directed Monster in Law um and Mostly TV Now. His first short film is called Tiziana Buberini. I'm sorry, what? Yep. And that's what they have to direct this feminist film? That's right. I'm just learning about this now. It's a short from 1997. Tiziana works at a suburban supermarket and is ridiculed by her fellow checkout girls by her slightly her suit upper lip. She finds new confidence and acceptance when she discovers a hair removal treatment. But where did her boobs come into play? I think that's just her name. I hate that. Yeah, I also hate that. um What the fuck?
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Also, if you want upper lip hair, you have upper lip hair. Yeah, Tiana. um However, the movie was, of course, written by um the ah the power screenwriting couple of Karen McCullough and Kirsten Smith. yeah who also wrote 10 Things I Hate About You, The House Bunny, The Ugly Truth, we don't talk about that one. um And um she's the man, Ella Enchanted, um those ladies. Josie and the Pussycats I think is on there.
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No, no, Josie and the Pussycats is the um is the couple who did. um It wasn't. Oh, the producer produced Josie and the Pussycats, Mark Platt. Mark Platt is the producer of this film, and he also produced Josie and the Pussycats. because um the first of several Emma's fun Emma's fun facts. On her first day of law school, because spoiler alert, Elle gets into law school, Elle comments that whoever said orange is the new pink is seriously disturbed.
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That line specifically is a reference to Josie and the Pussycats because in Josie and justing the Pussycats, if you've seen that classic, the teenagers are brainwashed to think that Orange is the new pink. Oh, that's right. That's right. I love Josie and the Pussycats. I do too. You know who doesn't like Josie and the Pussycats? Who it fell completely flat on and did not get at all. chuck Charlie. Charlie. Because he wasn't in America during the TRL era. He seriously, we watched Josie and the Bussycats and then we and that was like years ago and he was like, that's fine. And um everyone that hears that goes, whoa, whoa, what? And our friend Nick was the first one to be like, oh, yeah, because you you had like top of the pops and like other nonsense things.
00:14:19
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And that's in deck instead of Carson and Bailey. Yeah, exactly. But like we had seen it, and there's a huge yeah TRL storyline in Josie and the Bussycats. And then we go to a birthday party a few months ago. And we're talking I'm talking about how when I lived in Connecticut, when we would go to New York, it was during TRL. And so like that's how I would always know what Times Square was, was it was yeah TRL land. And so I'd always like look out for like the crowd of people and stuff. and And Charlie goes, what's TRL? I was like, are you doing the pussycats? This is like when I hang out with my 24 year old friend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's TRL? Well, you see back before YouTube, but you'd have to go on the television and go to a station called MTV and wait for a show to come on called TRL where they would play all the popular music videos. Yeah.
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And not even the whole videos. They would play like a minute and a half of them. It made me so mad. So mad. If it was like the first time they showed the video, they'd show the whole thing. Yeah. But then like, also like how many times do we need to see um Break Stuff by Limp Biscuit video? Yeah, for driving me crazy. For driving me crazy. Yeah, we don't need to see the video literally every day. but like at the same time at number one yeah around that same time lucky by Britney Spears was my favorite song and I was so upset when they wouldn't play the whole video of like you cut it off because it is a story it is cinematic story lucky okay she's the lucky star
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I know the song. It's just not one of her better known hits. so it really relate I related to it. You were deep. Yeah. Yeah. I felt I was like, in the back of my mind, I was like, one day that's going to be about me. And it was. And it is. It was. And here's the thing. Britney Spears is a time traveler and she wrote the song Lucky About My Life. So um there you have it. Breaking news from Go Get Your Girl.
00:16:30
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um So Legally Blonde. So we open up on be a beautiful sort of montage of, do they call it, I know they filmed it at Caltech, but is it called, is it Caltech or is it California University? I don't know. I don't know if they specifically say which which one it is. I don't think that, does Caltech have like a big sorority culture? Well, some of the frat boys featured in the opening of this movie, another one of Emma's Fun Facts, Emma's Fun Facts, were actual Caltech students that didn't realize this woman was happening. Okay, so I guess they do. I mean, I think of Caltech as like a serious university, so maybe that's- Maybe it is now that Elle Woods went there. Maybe, yeah. For her undergrad. Famous alumna Elle Woods.
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Um, but it opens up with, um, what is it? Haiku? What's her name? The singer of Sun's Up. It's a little after 12. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a perfect day. Yeah. Perfect day. The theme song to this movie. Yeah. Exactly. And we are following around a greeting card that's being signed by everyone in the Delta New Sorority. Hoku. Hoku. Hi, Koo.
00:17:54
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That feels offensive. Cut that out. okay um Although I think at the time when this came out, I thought Hoku's name was Haiku and I thought it was the same thing. Fair enough. Well, you're making it we did more difficult for me to cut it out now. Yeah. Anyways, so um so it opens up on this wonderful perfect day sort of montage. And I wrote best opening ever. and because it is all full of happiness and sunshine and wonderment and you're at the Delta New Sorority House and you find out that Elle Woods, our lovely protagonist, played by Reese Witherspoon, is getting ready because tonight is the night. to- Tonight is the night when Warner, Huntington III, is going to propose to her. So she's got to get ready. She's got to go get a new dress. They didn't have the iconic line from the musical, which was very disappointing.
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but which came first, the chicken or the egg. um The... Oh my god, you guys? No, in the musical, they added this whole bit about this because they she goes to go find the perfect dress and there's a salesperson. This is the first sort of insight into how the public doesn't treat her like she is an intelligent woman. They treat her like she's she's an idiot because of the way that she looks. oh yeah yeah yeah yeah And so the salesperson comes up to her or she says something about how how great is it when you've got a blonde with daddy's black card? And yeah she takes the sales hack off of a dress.
00:19:32
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and tries to pawn it off on Elle like it is brand new from this season um to sell her at full price. And in the musical, they did this line almost word for word, but then they added in the iconic, oh my God, Elle, the manager comes in and goes, oh my God, Elle, I'm so sorry, Courtney, take your break. um And then was immortalized on the internet by that adorable middle school that did their production of Legally Bond. Oh, yeah, I remember seeing that, yeah. You know, I almost directed Legally Bond. Did you really? yeah I have never seen it. Now, um yeah, I got an offer to to go to Montana to direct a college production of Legally Bond, but
00:20:21
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I could not afford to do it. yeah The amount of money that they could pay me was not worth me having to leave Chicago and go out there and be there for like eight weeks to direct a college production of a a musical and stuff. yeah And although I really wanted to do it, yeah I had to turn it down. It's such a fun show. I think the musical is such a great example of how to do cinema to musical yes like how to transfer that. Because it retains the gem and the happiness and the core story that of Leakly Blonde. And also Leakly Blonde is such a great movie to put to it because it has musical moments in it. They call that like ah the movie Sings. Yeah, exactly. It's something that is you you can watch a movie that has no musical elements to it, but it still has this kind of
00:21:15
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vibe to it, and it sings. like It could it can so easily be turned into a musical. But I'm a cheerleader, does the same thing, which i maybe came out the same year. yeah um And I've always wanted, but I'm a cheerleader to get turned into a musical. And apparently somebody did it in London, but it was unsuccessful. Well, it's because you haven't written it yet, Katie. I know. I know. I should totally do it. Somebody give me the rights to, but I'm a cheerleader. I want to make it into a musical. You heard it here first, guys. If you are the rights holder to But I'm a Cheerleader or is your name Natasha Lyonne, just give us an email. Give us a shout at gogetyourgirlatgmail.com. Natasha Lyonne, Melanie Leninsky, or um what's her name from? Claire Duval. Claire Duval. Just ah give us an email. She has the email.
00:21:59
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Ignore all the thirsting about boys I do on this podcast. I'm totally a lesbian if it means I get to make the, but I'm a cheerleader musical. I'm gay for you. I'm gay for you, Natasha Leon, Cleo Duval, and Melanie Leninsky. I think it's just Linsky, isn't it? Is it not Leninsky? I think it's Melanie Linsky. I think I'm i'm confusing. Oh my God, boys. Hold on, I gotta disrupt some rowdy boys. her rowdy sons. It's just Melanie Linsky, yeah. Oh, I'm confusing it with Monica Lewinsky. You are, yes. I'm putting the two together. Yeah, both queens, honestly. Both queens, both queens. That is your great grandmother's painting. Get off of that. I need people to know that I am a working mother. Yeah, two rowdy boys. Two rowdy boys who won't stop fighting. And one of them won't stop humping the other one. It's very problematic.
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Now I feel like I have to make sure everyone knows that they're cats.
00:23:07
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They won't stop sniffing each other, but it's the whole thing. Yeah, yep, yep, yeah. But yeah, so tonight is the night that Elle is pretty sure that Warner is gonna propose. Warner invites her to a fancy smancy restaurant in LA. She wears a beautiful dress, they order champagne, they sit and he wants to talk about their relationship. And it all feels like proposal until he says, I think we should break up. And she's like, well, what? And I don't blame her because I think that is the worst way for someone to break up with someone. um Yeah, at a fancy restaurant, like. At a fancy restaurant with champagne.
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yeah um ah like Building up this night, like there's like no evidence of him like being nervous or anything, even the way that he delivers like the whole talk beforehand and like the talk about his future. It's sounding like a proposal. So ah I don't play now. No, not at all. Yeah, and then so Ella's distraught. She goes back to this royalty. She's upset. She has this wonderful moment that my friend Robert and I um we from my sophomore year in college until I moved away would have a tradition every Valentine's Day where we reenacted this movie and we would buy two hearts filled of
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chocolate each and we put on the notebook which isn't what she's watching but um I don't think it had been released yet it hadn't even been made it wasn't even it hadn't occurred to anybody that the notebook was a thing yet um but we would put on the notebook and we'd have one heart filled with chocolate for eating and one heart filled with chocolate for throwing and the first time that we did it my roommate came back to my dorm and she goes oh my god it smells awful in here what is happening so we had like the curtains drawn we were both like laid out on couches just like covered in chocolate um it was a great time it was a great time why did it smell bad uh because i don't know we were in college it smelled like bo okay it smelled like rotten chocolate okay
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um But yeah, and she throws, so she she's taking bites out of all of the chocolates, to which we did not do. We ate all the chocolates. And then- Oh, you see, i'm not i know I won't eat a chocolate without knowing what's in it. like You gotta figure out what's in it. like What if it's gross? What if it's like- There are no gross chocolates. Oh my God, there are so many gross chocolates. What is your least favorite? Oh, gosh, I don't know. I don't like the strawberry cream. I don't like the, I don't like like if it's got like a walnut or something. Like a- Yeah, I'm not a big nut and chocolate fan. No, me neither. I don't like an almond in there. I don't want that. No, you don't like almonds. I like almonds just plain. I don't want them mixed into my chocolate. That feels like a trick. No, it's full of coconut. I don't want that either. Oh, I love the coconut ones. The coconut ones are great. I like,
00:26:19
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sometimes i like the cherries jubilee ones and sometimes i don't because i like a cherry if if it's done wrong it'll explode in your mouth and it'll be a weird sensation and i don't like that yeah you gotta be ready for it yeah exactly i don't want to feel like i'm eating a pimple oh god well no
00:26:42
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I mean, I just have to let the listeners know. um But yeah, so she is distraught. So her friends are like, well, let's go get Manny's and Petty's. And while she is getting ah waiting to get her Manny's and Petty's, Elle opens the Bible Cosmopolitan magazine, which there are so many product placements in

Elle Woods' Journey and Growth

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this fucking movie. Oh, yeah, for sure. and is filled even within the first like two seconds we've got like herbal essences, um I think candy shoes, um Gucci, like there's so many product ways. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. And like we should say that he breaks up with her because she's not serious enough for him. Yeah.
00:27:25
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He tells her he needs a Jackie and she's a Maryland. Yeah, he you need if if he wants to be a senator by the time that he's 30, he needs to marry a Jackie and not a guy sucks. This guy sucks. Super hard. He is he is played by. um Oh, God, what's his name? i mean Matthew, never seen something or other. Yeah, no, he's a lark from the vampire diaries. Wait, what? Matthew Davis is his name. matt Matthew Davis is his name, yes. he is And he is the beloved character of Alaric from the Vampire Diaries, yes. This is why I need to go back into the Vampire Diaries. Did you not get that far?
00:28:05
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No, I like I need to I need to go back and be serious. You really don't. You really nobody needs to watch the vampire. I need to get serious, Katie, about that. I watched the vampire diaries because it was 2010 or whenever it came out and I watched it again because I have nostalgia for it. But it's not a necessity for anyone. um He was also in the holiday classic that I'm sure that we'll cover, Christmas Wishes and Mistletoe Kisses. Oh, God. It is a Hallmark made for TV movie. It has the two leads, him and a chick in a red turtleneck, um ah behind a wreath and the plot. It's a Candace Cameron beret.
00:28:56
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No, it's not. um But the plot line can be summarized in one sentence, which is, an interior designer is hired to decorate a lavish mansion over the Christmas season. And I bet they kiss at the end right before the movie goes to credits. Yeah.
00:29:18
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um Just not enough. It's not enough. It's not enough. It's right before the credits. No, we need them. i mean They need to kiss at least in the first act, the second act, and then fuck in the third. At least. I mean, I would prefer if they fuck in the first act. Intermission fuck. Yeah. um So yeah, so she opens Cosmo, she sees that Warner's brother had just gotten engaged to another um law student at Harvard Law. Warner is a legacy. purple um Body shaving. Body shaving, yeah. Yeah, this poor woman. Yeah. um But Elle.
00:30:02
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realizes that if she wants to be serious, she has to go to law school, just like Warner. And so she's got to get into Harvard Law, which is where Warner is going, to get Warner back. And everyone around her is like, I'm sorry, what? What's your backup plan? And she's like, don't even. Yeah, absolutely. Like her parents and everything. But her sorority sisters have her back no matter what. Every step of the way. They tutor her. Women support women in this movie. Yes. they her friends are 100% behind her getting engaged. when they break but when When he breaks up with her, they're 100% behind her. And when she decides she's going to go to law school, 110% behind her. 110% behind her. And it's just it's so refreshing to see female friendship played in such a great way. um And it's also what makes this movie a feminist icon.
00:30:56
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The movie itself is a feminist icon. It is. And this movie is 23 years old. And the movies didn't treat women this way did it in 2001, really. I know it seems like that's that that that's late in the cycle of of movies about women. But it's crazy. Like, if you try to watch, I mean, we'll do it ourselves. Like, rom-coms from the 90s and stuff don't yeah it's There's so many, if the the woman is the protagonist, there's so many women in competition with each other for men. yeah they're They're constantly, everything is about the the man. There's so little.
00:31:40
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um support and community and this has so much of that. It's so refreshing. It's so much. Even the main female antagonist is set up to be sort of like the women competing against Warner because she ends up, spoiler alert, she gets into Harvard Law and she sees Warner in classt or she sees warner um And she um talks to him afterwards and, or after seeing him for the first time, and she learns that over the summer he got engaged to his prep school sweetheart, his high school sweetheart, which is, ah oh my God, what's her name? The great Selma Blair. Selma Blair playing bibian Vivian. Vivian. And it's at first, they're sort of built up to be in competition over Warner.
00:32:30
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and The whole thing is that Vivian at every single turn is trying to like not let Elle into their study group, invite her to a party, um but like tell her it's a costume party when it's not a costume party, so everyone will make fun of her. um Make sure that she gets kicked out of class for not doing the reading not never defending her never being at her back until The like last third of this movie in which that flips and it's so refreshing to see that because she suddenly she sees that
00:33:06
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men treat women shittily because she gets treated shittily. And Warner's a terrible dude. And because he like the whole like alibi conversation where he's like, don't just give up the alibi who cares about this client, like care about your career. And Vivian is like, what? And and she. that Yeah, the the magic of of L is that L is kind to everyone, no matter what. And, you know, the somewhat Blair character has this, this competition kind of bred into her because of who she is and where she's from and what her family is probably like. Yeah. Which she, I will let the listeners know she is from Connecticut. ah Vivian is from Connecticut. Yes. Yes. I noticed that. um And
00:33:59
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it is it is such a it it It works in this movie because it's such a trope because we've seen this kind of evil you know female character in so many other movies who gets, her car back gets gets knocked into a um a truck full of manure and it goes all over her and that's the last you see of her in most movies. What movie is that? I don't know, but I'm just thinking of, Our movie, we're putting it in. No, no, but like the the the the bitchy, yeah you know, competition woman. Yeah. but who She gets her comeuppance. Because she's a bitch. Yeah, and and and she's like very prim and proper and yeah upper class and stuff. So something like like something bad has to happen to her physically, right? Like she gets covered in mud or or something like that. Yeah, like in Cinderella story. Yes, sure, yes, exactly.
00:34:53
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um But in this, it's instead, she but she becomes her best friend. like That's the narration at the end. They're best friends. And that's so sweet. um And she wins her over because that is the thing about Elle, despite being A, rich, let's face it, yeah and and B, looking the way that she does and acting the way that she does and seeming very superficial, she is an extremely warm, kind person who helps everyone that she meets. Right? Everyone. Yeah. And it doesn't matter if they're uggos or not. Yeah. She helps, like, even an awkwardly, socially awkwardly classmates of hers. Doesn't matter if they're future famous horror director Oz Perkins. Is that who that is? Yeah. So the homunculus, what is his name?
00:35:52
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Oh my god. The weirdo who is in there their law group, the weird nerd. Yeah, he's like socially awkward. Dorky David is the character's name. Who is played by Oz Perkins, who is, I believe he's Anthony Perkins' son or grandson? Um, but yeah, he is a horror or auteur now. He did, um, the black coats daughter. I'm the pretty thing that lives in the house and his new movie called long legs, which looks absolutely terrifying and is not out yet, but everyone who's seen it at like festivals and stuff says it's amazing. And I can't wait. Oh, oh, oh, I'm so excited. Um, who's in long legs? Uh, Micah Monroe. Is that how you say that name?
00:36:41
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um She was in, it follows. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Long Lake, it's also, um who's the the the guy? It's Nicholas Cage, yeah. Oh, shit, yay, I have seen worms about that. um Amazing. I did not know that he was a horror director, but he is socially awkward and is just trying to ask out this girl because he thinks she's pretty. And instead, her and her friend are horrible to him. Absolutely awful and insult him just like,
00:37:20
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Just terrible, just like, why, why? What do you get out of that, dude? Like, you could just say, no, sorry, I'm not interested and walk away. You don't just say, no, I wouldn't go out with someone like you. I mean, can't why would I go out with you? Oh my God, you're so ugly and awkward and dirt like, who gets anything out of that? Except for tearing this guy down. Mean Harvard girls. yeah Mean Harvard girls. eggs Exactly. But anyways, so we do get the best video essay of all time. Yes. In the days of the Handycam, Elle creates a video essay yeah about why they should let her into Harvard, in addition to getting a great score on her LSAT. It's one already yeah it's one beneath a perfect score. Yeah. And already having like,
00:38:17
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you know, great academics and everything. She yeah um yeah creates this video where it's like ah it's like a um it's like a real world audition tape. That's what it is. exact so It's a real world audition tape, which for those of you who don't remember, the real world was a television show on MTV where it was like a reality show, but the but basically the only thing was They put these people in a house together. that's That's it. Well, they put them in a house together and then they had to have a job. So they all had to go to work and they all had to go to this like job that they gave them, which was like at a club or it was like at a restaurant or it was like they all had to like go to work and then also live together. I mean, because the work they I think they learned in the early seasons, the work was boring. let's just get them as much alcohol and get them as drunk as possible. Big time. Yeah. Yeah. And they would always pick like, you know, a racist yeah and like a gay guy and like a ah ah a vegetarian and a hunter. You know, they intentionally put like these people who would yeah clash against each other. Exactly. Because it would make great television.
00:39:35
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yeah and Yeah, some of these people are the worst people in the entire world who, and then they become famous and then they would get like a spin-off show or something, yeah. Except i not a good time I could not name you one single person who is still famous today that was on the real world. Still famous? No, probably not. Yeah, yeah. I mean, America's next top model, several, but ah the real world? No. Well, that's an actual job and a skill set that you have to have.
00:40:07
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But ah the real world? No, no. But yeah, so so she does her video essay, and then there's a really interesting scene with all of the Harvard Law Admissions Committee, which is a bunch of old white dudes, of course. And they're watching her video. Accurate, probably. like Probably still accurate. um and they're all like what is happening and one guy's like well you said that we should diversify and i was like oh no he yeah i'm pretty sure that's not what he meant uh and and she gets in to law school um
00:40:57
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So she gets to Harvard Law, and everyone is like, whoa, who is this material girl, Malibu Barbie, who looks cute? What, like it's hard? What, like it's hard? Who matches her outfit for every single occasion, which relatable. ah And she also also I do find it hard to believe that she wouldn't have done any of the reading ah for the first day of school. Yeah, because she's so prepared. I guess the idea is that, you know, it's it's still grad school. So in grad school, you are you get like read half half this book before class, you know, read this entire book before the next class, that kind of thing. Whereas in undergrad,
00:41:41
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You don't really do anything until you get to your first class and then they tell you what you're going to do. yeah Um, so I guess that's the only like thing why she wouldn't know that, but it does seem like as prepared as she is, like, this is something she would have started to take a little bit more seriously. But I, the other, I, but all the, on the other hand, like, has everything been easy for her in the past? Probably. Probably. Like it says that, you know, well, she has a 4.0, but says, yeah, but her, Her major is diing fashion merchandising, which, again, doesn't I'm sure is hard. Yeah. I don't know how a fashion merchandise. That seems like that would involve like economics. Exactly. I was going to say it involves economics and because you have to do trend predictions and yeah you know stuff like that.
00:42:31
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um But yeah yeah, I also just because she goes through her like welcome packet and I feel like the welcome packet would have the reading in it or the assignments. She goes through it. She knows there's not a social calendar. So like she's looked through the packet thoroughly. Why didn't she do? But like I get it. I think the fact is like things have been easy and like In the past, if one of her classes said that you had to do the reading, you didn't really have to do the reading sort of situation. Because she goes to her first class, which is taught by the fabulous actress. Holland Taylor. Holland Taylor. Love Holland Taylor. Partners with Sarah Paulson. I'm obsessed with them. I ship them. You don't have to ship them. They're together. They're in a ship. I know.
00:43:24
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i They're co-captains of a ship. Wait, are if they're already together, then it's no longer a ship? It's it's a it's a ship. It's a relationship, yeah. I mean, yes, I guess you can ship people who are already in a relationship, yeah. I think ship is over. i I think they're still saying ship. I think they're saying ship. I don't know. If you or anyone you know is a member of Gen Z, let us know. Go get your girl pod at gmail dot.com. I'm gonna get text messages about this. Yes. Hopefully not from Charlie because he is not a member of Gen Z. No, he's not. um So she goes to her first class taught by Holland Taylor and Holland Taylor's made out to be that sort of like, she has to be a tough teacher and a tough lawyer because she's a woman, because she became a woman in the time when it was laughable that women could be lawyers. And she, everyone's had a teacher like her where she's just like,
00:44:24
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just goes out of her way to make you feel stupid. And she calls on Elle, and Elle hadn't done the reading. Everybody has a laptop, except for Elle, who's got her little heart-shaped notebook. And so then Holland Taylor kicks her out of the class for not being prepared. And she is upset. She runs to, she's like mumbling to herself, and she has our meet cute! and have a dad and have a dad and have a dad with Emmett the wonderful Luke Wilson and I will say I could have sworn and maybe I'm wrong but like part of me I don't know why maybe it was just in my imagination that Luke Wilson
00:45:12
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At the end of this movie, when they do the shot back to him during the graduation speech, for some reason I thought that he was blonde in that. What? I don't know why. That he dyed his hair? Cause he has that whole scene. They just replaced him with Owen Wilson and nobody noticed. I could have sworn. And then rewatching this, I was like, Oh no, that's not, that didn't happen. Cause he has that line earlier where he was just like, what'd you think I'd look like as a blonde? And so I thought that like, because they're doing all the cutesy, like where are they now things. That would have been cute. That would have been cute. yeah Um, but they didn't do that. He found the only flaw in this movie. Exactly. They should have died Owen Wilson's hair for the final scene.
00:45:57
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Um, it's not the only flaw in this movie. There's some uncomfortable stuff. Oh, yeah. two thousand one Yeah. A lot. of tell There's a lot to be said that this movie was before it's time, but also a lot to be said that this was very much of its time. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. um So then that's where we find out that um Warner is engaged to Vivian and Elle gets so upset. So she goes to cheer herself up in the only way she knows how by getting her nails done. And that's where we meet Jennifer Coolidge. The wonderful, fabulous Jennifer Coolidge. There's so many gay icons in this movie. This movie is a gay icon, just like,
00:46:44
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roster. It's fabulous. um You know, with the exception of they put in a lot of gay stereotypes in the film. Sure. sure Yeah. But I mean, Holland Taylor, Victor Garber, Jennifer Coolidge, Selma Blair, Reese Witherspoon, like all of these people. Yeah. Bruiser. Bruiser the dog.
00:47:07
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I love that we both said that at the same time. Yeah. But I mean, let's be real. Bruiser is a gay icon. Bruiser, as we can see, I have this theory that there should be that there is a movie within a movie in Legally Blonde, which is Bruiser discovering that he is gay. And oh, that does happen in the second movie, doesn't it? Oh, you know what? I've only seen the second movie one time. I'm pretty sure it happens in the second movie that he comes out as gay, but like you can see him watching the Taco Bell dog and he is in love. He is in love with the Taco Bell Chihuahua. Yeah, that's true. um But yeah, I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly, I mean, I've only ever seen the second one once too. It's not good, y'all. It's not good. And Charlie got really excited when he saw at the end, he goes, oh, L Legally Blonde 2, red, white,
00:48:02
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blue or whatever it's called. And I go don't just don't I don't want to talk about it. but Um, I mean, they still say they're making a third one. They're making what's a prequel. why there um I didn't think they had announced that, yeah. Reese Witherspoon just announced like a month ago that they're doing Elle, which is gonna be a TV series. Oh, oh, okay. Yeah, well, they're actually making a Legally Blonde 3, like with Jennifer Coolidge and Reese Witherspoon, yeah. Wow. Written by Dan Gore and Mindy Kaling. Oh. And Karen McCullough andris and Kristen Smith. Dan Gore, of course, created Brooklyn Nine-Nine.
00:48:53
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Oh, maybe it'll actually be good. I don't know. I don't it i don't like Mindy Kaling. I mean, I ebb and flow with it. I'll tell you someone that's not gonna be legally blonde three.
00:49:07
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Here's Emma's sad facts. Emma's sad facts. Oh, no.
00:49:16
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Bruiser will not be in it. Well, yeah. It's been 23 years. And Chihuahuas live a long time, but they don't live that long. I can tell you exactly what happened to Mooney, the Chihuahua who played Bruiser. He died on March 10, 2016, at the age of 18. That's pretty good. That's what happens when you get super famous and rich, and then you just live off of all that fancy ass Dogs shit. I don't know. That's right. That's been Emma Sad Fox, Emma Sad Fox. You know, if we had a little bit of production value, we could have just slowed that down. But I like that you went ahead and did it yourself with your voice, so we don't have to. And went into the minor key. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone knows minor key is sad.
00:50:12
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um
00:50:14
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I also like how you judged Mooney for his Hollywood lifestyle. He died at 18. He probably would have lived a lot longer if he hadn't been doing all that coke. I know, right? All of that cocaine and bitchifying. I was going to say womanizing, and then I was like, what's the dog equivalent? Bitchifying? It's not bitchifying. I'll tell you that.
00:50:43
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cruising for bitches. Yeah. See, that's, yeah, that that doesn't work. No, it doesn't. I don't know what what else would a Hollywood dog do in their retirement? Fill a swimming pool up with um tennis balls. Yeah, that sounds nice. That's very wholesome. Right, go to Costco and get all of the $5 rotisserie chickens and eat them all in a day. Oh my god, a bunch of Costco for the first time the other day? For the very first time? Yeah, I don't have a comm. I'm not a Costco person. I don't have five kids. Why would I have a Costco membership? Because it is so convenient to never have to leave your house for toilet paper. Oh, so listen, I know. And that's exactly what I'm about to get to. Yes.
00:51:29
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we um Caitlin's brother was in town, and he is a Costco dad. He's obsessed with Costco. You literally cannot have a conversation with this man for more than five minutes before he mentions Costco. Matthew, I love you, but it's true.
00:51:43
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And so they're all staying late. So a lot of family was in town this past week, and they were all staying at an Airbnb together. And so we all went to Costco. Caitlin had to work that day, but I went with them to Costco. And it is, I'm like the millionth person to have this take on a podcast,

Humorous Insights and Personal Stories

00:52:02
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I'm sure. But Costco's crazy, y'all. Oh, it's crazy. It's so crazy. I just went to Costco today. Yeah. um And I bought a 30 pack of toilet paper, which I will keep you updated audience. But this was last Sunday that we bought it. And I regret to inform you that we have used six rolls of toilet paper in seven days. How my. Listen, Caitlin does not listen to this podcast. And I don't want to.
00:52:37
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I don't want to complain or be mean to her because she's a perfect angel and she's never done anything wrong in her entire life. But she uses so much toilet paper. It's insane how much toilet paper she uses. I think she she rolls it around her hand. No, that's bad. I know. I mean, between the laundry thing and the toilet paper thing, she's killing the environment. The laundry thing was in the green room. It would be cool. Oh, sorry.
00:53:09
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Caitlin as well as this podcast. No, she does not. And if you and listen to this podcast that are friends with Caitlin, be cool. Be cool, guys. Be cool. But also maybe introduce her to some um um environment-friendly alternatives. So here's the thing. I made the outlandish prediction that this pack of 30 rolls of toilet paper, which by the way was $19.99, which is mind blowing. Because usually we have to go to Walgreens in a panic because we're out of toilet paper, and the walk we can walk to the Walgreens. And it's like $13 for like seven rolls of toilet paper. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Oh, I know.
00:53:46
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So I bought this pack of 30 year olds, and jokingly said, maybe this will last us a month. But it seems like we're on track for it to last about a month. Jesus Christ. Because we just used the sixth roll today, this morning. yeah You guys need to get a Costco membership. Well, that's the thing. like And I told her, like listen, it's $60 a month for a Costco membership. If we only bought toilet paper there, I think it would be worth it. I think it would be, and like not only that, but you can get a dollar hot dog. Oh, wait, you don't eat hot dogs. You can get. I eat veggie hot dogs. They don't have veggie hot dogs. It makes me sad. I don't you know. I don't eat beef hot dogs. But every time we go, Charlie gets a hot dog. It's not a dollar hot dog. It's a dollar for a hot dog and a drink. Yeah. Yeah. Their rotisserie chickens are $5. Yeah. $5. Yeah. It's cruel though.
00:54:45
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Yeah, I went to the earlier today and I got a pack of 250 melatonin pills, a five pack of toothpaste, a giant like almost but like gallon little thing of hummus, a gallon thing of pita chips, and some Girl Scout cookie bites. And I spent only $70. Yeah, that's crazy. Um, we definitely, we should do that because it's, um, the thing about like buying in bulk, cause like Kaitlyn comes from a big family and so they're used to buying in bulk and have all of this stuff, but it's just the two of us and we just don't use it that much. But there are certain things that you can buy in bulk and there's things that you shouldn't buy in bulk. Cause she wasn't there. I sent a text message like, Hey, is there anything you want? And she goes, potato salad. And the smallest thing of potato salad they had was five pounds.
00:55:42
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Yeah, you don't need five pounds of potato salad. No, we did not. And it goes bad. Yeah, it goes bad very fast because it's all eggs and man. Yeah, that's why you get frozen stuff. We get a bunch of like we will get like our ground turkey and we'll get like the um like the whole chickens because they come in a pack of two for like fifteen dollars. Maybe I think even less than that, maybe thirteen dollars. And we freeze them. And then anytime that we're just like, well, what should we have for dinner this week? Well, we've got a two pound thing of ground turkey in the freezer. There you go. Well, Matthew was talking up the pimento cheese and we went to the beach with them last year. He had brought this huge Costco thing of pimento cheese. And I don't know if I've talked about it on this podcast before, but pimento cheese is one of my favorite things in the world. Yep. Yep. Yep.
00:56:27
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And so we searched all over. But this Costco in Chicago did not have pimento cheese. So I don't know. Maybe it's a southern thing. I'll take a look next time I have a Costco. Next time you're at your Connecticut Costco, let me know if they have pimento cheese. I go probably once a week. It's the best. Because it's 10 minutes away from my house, maybe 11 or 12. It's also half an hour from us. Oh, yeah. It's also the cheapest place in Connecticut to get liquor. and wine, the cheapest ways. Anyways, so we get a lot of iconic scenes in this movie. Um, oh, so Elle's start has her big like character change. But she overhears Vivian talking about a party. And she runs out into the hallway and she goes, Oh my god, somebody's actually throwing a party.
00:57:18
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And Vivian, she's expecting, because she sees that it's Vivian, she's expecting not to get invited, but Vivian invites her and she goes, oh, but it's a costume party. And so of course, Elle shows up as the, I was about to say the Pillsbury Doughboy. Definitely not that. The Playboy Bunny, a Playboy Bunny. yeah bright pink playboy buddy. And everybody makes fun of her. And Warner we tells her... Which she completely lets roll off of her. Yeah, she's totally cool with it. She is keeping her cool and like being a boss bitch until Warner straight up tells her that she's not smart. Yeah.
00:57:59
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And so then she's like, well, you know what? Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck all of you. I'm going to show you. And so then she storms off. She goes to the Harvard bookstore, to which I said, they sell MacBooks at the Harvard bookstore. Yeah, probably. Yeah, that that's what Charlie said. Charlie was just like in 2001, probably. like And she buys herself a laptop. She sees Emmet there and she goes, don't talk to me. And um then she starts to really study and like really, you know, crack down on being a serious law student.
00:58:35
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And so she starts doing really great. She starts speaking up in class. She starts really excelling because Elle Woods, at the end of the day, is a smart as hell woman. She is so smart. She is capable. And she's not going to let people tell her what to do. And we get some little side story about Jennifer Coolidge and how she wants to get her dog back from her ex. And they get the dog back. And also, she's in love with the UPS guy. ah Oh, that's not important. um it's it's a It's a solid B-plot, yeah. Yeah. It's a C-plot, because the B-plot is the trial. Exactly. And in the C-plot, we get the bend and snap scene, which is if it has a high return rate of getting asked out by a boy if you bend and snap, which in my experience,
00:59:30
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which
00:59:33
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yeah It's a deranged thing to do in real life. But in the height and reality of this, which is one of those examples of this this movie singing, like yeah that is a dance sequence that is not set to music. And yeah the I mean, they do play music eventually. But in the movie, like you're watching this, like oh, this is a dance number. you know Yeah, exactly. And they're just doing the Ben and Snap. And you get the first of many negative gay stereotypes when a ah man who's a colorist at the salon comes out and he goes, Oh my God, the Ben and Snap works every time.
01:00:10
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ah Yeah. Anyways, so there's also a militant lesbian in the oh yeah class also. Forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah, and she's really mean to Elle, like really aggressively mean to Elle. I'm just like, Jesus Christ, girl. But like, hey, you know, it's just because everyone's expecting Elle to be the worst to them. So they're just trying to step up and be mean first before they can get a chance only to realize that Elle is one of the nicest, kindest people of all time and that you should not read a book by its cover.
01:00:47
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yeah And you should be nicer to beautiful people. That's the exactly.
01:00:55
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Be nicer to beautiful people.

Elle Woods' Triumphs in Court

01:00:59
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But yeah then we get our B-plot, which is her professor, played by Victor Garber, is hiring some first-year interns because his caseload is so high. And there was a big murder trial, like celebrity murder trial, that he has been hired for. And he needs first-year interns. With Yep, with Ali Larter as Brooke Windham. And. Can you say a model and an exercise teacher? Yeah, that is like she said that back when they sold like DVDs of exercise. Yeah, exactly. And she can make you lose three pounds in a class, which is impossible and very dangerous if it were possible. Yeah. um And so Elle puts in her resume for it where you get the iconic line of um
01:01:54
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this is what is this it's pink oh it's my resume and it's scented and um then you know she gets to be an intern and she just to shine by being an intern, by like reading the room and reading seeing the things that all the nerds, the legal nerds aren't seeing. People skills, with soft skills, as they call them. And as theater majors, things that you and I were probably told would help us get jobs. But in my case, has not been true. Has not been true. so
01:02:27
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um ah So the people who are we, I mean, we get like our main group end up being the interns on the on the case. it yeah her and Warner and Vivian and the militant lesbian who I don't remember her name. And um wilson Luke Wilson, who is not a student but is a um ah first year lawyer associate with, he's a young lawyer who worked for Victor Barber, yeah. He like just graduated. Yeah.
01:03:00
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um And this is his first like legal job, the first firm that he's worked for. ah And yeah, so the the um trial goes on. It looks like that they're losing because Brooke won't give them an alibi. She won't tell them where she was at the time that her husband was being shot. and El goes to the jail to get the alibi. She eventually gets it, but she cannot tell anyone because she has her Delta Nu. Yep, her Delta Nail. Delta Nail, Delta, I loved this musical. I was so obsessed with it in college. um Her Delta Nail, ah Sisterhood,
01:03:46
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She cannot break that bond. They were in the same sorority, yeah. Yes. They were in the same sorority, not the same pledge class, but they are still sisters through a common bond. We're in the same school, right? in bond At the same school. Yeah, yeah. And she took her class in LA when she was first starting out. And Brooke remembers her she had because Elle has the best high kick she has ever seen.
01:04:09
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um And so she gets the alibi, which you find out was Brooke was getting liposuction at the time of the murder. And she can't let anyone know because if that gets out, then it will ruin her reputation as a healthcare room. To which Charlie said, why can't she just say tell the lawyers that she was undergoing a medical procedure and leave it at that? And I was like, that's an excellent question, Charles. because the prosecution would would would have to learn to get the facts in Discovery and they would leak it. Oh, yeah, that's true. There's too many loose ends because it's such a high profile case. It's what you learn from watching Seven Seasons of the Good Wife and Five Seasons of the Good Fight. It's it's been basically almost like you've been to law school. It's just that it's exactly the same thing, yeah. Oh my gosh, Kitty, are you a lawyer? Yeah.
01:05:04
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with Professor Juliana Margulies and Josh Charles, Christine Baranski, Archie Punjabi. Oh my God, that's amazing. If I'm ever in trouble, I will say, you can contact my lawyer, Katie Coleman. And you'll totally answer the call. Of course I will. Yeah. And you'll come in in a pencil skirt and like high stilettos and a briefcase and be like,
01:05:31
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for a habeas corpus. And he'll be like, get out of the courtroom.
01:05:39
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Oh, man. And then I go away from murder. But similar thing happens in this movie in that, well, first, Elle Woods, she yeah steps up to the plate and she, you know, proves that the cabana boy is actually gay and another terrible gay stereotype because he knows. It's funny, though. Shoes. Yeah. I'm going to give it a pass. Yeah. And between her and Emmett, they really, ah they they really get him down. I love the whole conversation. Because he tells her she's wearing last year's Prada shoes. yeah and she And she's like, Oh my God, he's gay because he knows my shoes are from last year. and She goes, Warner, what shoes are these? Because black ones.
01:06:25
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and um And so then she tells, and then Emmett is the one person to believe her and he goes up and he questions um the pool boy and by like giving him, you know, classic lawyer technique where he gives them a bunch of questions and then peppers in and your boyfriend's name is so that he's not thinking about lying. And he his boyfriend has a stupid name. It's like Bob? I think it's Frank. Oh, it's Frank? I thought it was Frank. I thought it was Bob. Maybe. I don't remember. I thought it was Frank. It doesn't matter. But then he says, no, no, I don't have one. And then he's just a friend. The boyfriend stands up and the court really goes, you bitch.
01:07:10
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And so it is then apparent to everyone that the cabana boy is gay and could not be having an affair with Brooke Windham. And then she goes back and she gets you know a pat on the back from Victor Garber, who then asks her about her future, asks her about what she wants to do when she graduates or what what she wants to do in the summer, where she wants to be an associate at. and then hits on her and touches her leg in a sexy manner. To which, oh no, plot twist, Vivian accidentally sees from the doorway. Vivian had had become like softened toward Elle and they hadn't become friends, but she had certainly, like because of the way that Vivian had been treated and Elle had talked to her about it and they've had like so like a nice conversation and stuff, had become, started to soften to her.
01:07:59
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Yeah, but this rehardens her. And then she says a degrading um slut shaming comment to Elle. Well, she believes that Elle got this job because she slept with him, I guess like that seems to be the instead of like, she doesn't think the best of of someone like she jumps to the bad conclusion. Like, obviously, if you or I or anybody saw our friend you know being treated that way by somebody, my first thought, of course, would be this man is sexually harassing her. Yeah, and if she had waited in that doorway a second later, she would have heard Elle tell him off. Yeah, exactly. And then she would have gotten the full load on the story. But Vivian is what we like to call in the rom-com community a negative Nancy.
01:08:45
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Well, and then also Elle decides that she's quitting and moving back to California. Because she's traumatized. Yeah. Because she's fought so hard to be herself and be a lawyer at the same time. but at the end of the day, just everyone still think doesn't take her seriously. Yeah. It makes her think that the only reason she did get this internship is because he wanted to sleep with her. and The only reason she got into Harvard is because she's hot, you know? Yeah. And of course, again, the only person that believes her, Emmett. Yeah. It's amazing how quickly being sexually harassed can make you feel like none of your accomplishments are
01:09:27
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worthwhile. Yeah, everything is invalid. Exactly. Yeah. And it just turns everything to shit. And L has to go back to California. And so she's saying goodbye to Jennifer Coolidge. and you know rightfully so crying because they become best friends. And as she's saying this, oh my gosh, Holland Taylor goes to the same salon and she overheard the entire conversation about how Victor Garber hit on Elle and traumatized Elle and Elle has quit everything and is going back to California because of it.
01:10:03
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So she turns around in a dramatic fashion and she goes, if you let something like that asshole change your mind, you're not the one I thought you were. And then without paying, she leaves the salon.
01:10:19
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I clocked that immediately. I think Holly Taylor gives the manicure ladies legal help and in exchange gets free manicures. Well, she was getting her hair done. Or she was getting, she gets a ah free, you know, touch up on her color or something because of it. I don't know. It's community aid.
01:10:40
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Women helping Women helping women. How dare you judge her? ah Sorry. So sorry, Helen Taylor. And that is the kick in the pants that Elle needs to go back and work some magic. We don't see the behind the scenes of how this all comes together. Well, and then also, Luke Wilson tells Allie Larter and- Yes. Selma Blair what happened and Selma Blair- Yeah. to her credit immediately feels like shit. And so like, oh my God, I have to apologize to her. I can't believe I jumped to conclusions and stuff. Yeah, so exactly. And it's just really great you know because like on this podcast, we believe women. Yeah. And so yeah, so then we get this dramatic sort of, we jumped from that scene to,
01:11:31
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our final court scene, which is Ali Larter comes in and she goes up to Victor Garber and he's just like, what are you smiling about? And she goes, oh, you just wait and see. ah Get up, you're fired. And so he's like, wait what? And then Elle has her dramatic entry where she's wearing her beautiful pink suit, skirt, dress ensemble with weird, awkward guy behind her holding a Harvard law law to her Oz Perkins. Yes. Because they just knew that Victor Garber was going to question this. um Because in ah certain cases, law students can act as representation. And but it does have to be under the supervisation of a licensed
01:12:22
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um, lawyer, which Emmett is like, yeah, that'll be me. Victor Garber's fired! And so then Elle, go work your magic. And Elle, rightfully so, is very nervous because she doesn't know. So she starts just giving vocabulary lessons and... She's questioning, um, Ali Larter's stepdaughter, the daughter of the man who died, uh, who is Linda Cardellini. Linda Cardellini. In a an atrocious wig. Terrible. horrible but that's part of it right yeah um oh the character's name is chutney chutney i knew it was something stupid yeah un this is my son ranch dressing and my daughter chutney this is uh chutney chutney can you go go get the horses get the horses with the stables um
01:13:17
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And so her whole line of questioning is, what were you doing when your father's being shot? You were in the shower. And so because she's nervous, she just keeps repeating this. And so everyone's just like, yeah, we get it. She was in the shower. But then Linda Cardellini lets a little fun fact go that sort of lights up a light bulb behind Al's head. She goes, well, what were you doing in that day? And she was like, I don't know. I got up. I worked out. I got a latte, got a perm, came home and took a shower. And then Elle's just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. ay You can't take a shower for 24 to 48 hours after you get a perm. Which is one of those things that, like,
01:13:59
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everybody knows that, right? I actually learned that from this movie. I also learned that endorphins are the chemicals that make you happy. Oh really, here's the thing, I guess because my mom used to get perms a lot, yeah and i or maybe I did learn it from this movie, I don't know, but it's one of the, this thing of the scene is so famous that it's like ingrained into the culture in a way, because now it seems almost silly yeah that she would admit that she got a perm and immediately took a shower so quickly after, but I guess it's framed in one of those like women's knowledge versus men's knowledge kind of thing.
01:14:35
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Because that's supposed to be how it how it works, right? Yeah. And Elle, you know, she even quotes. She's like, anyone that's a good Cosmo girl would know any Cosmo girl would know. Yeah. Yeah. But you can't take a shower. Even in 2001, who's getting perms? Perms are sketch and 80s and before thing like. Goodness. Absolutely. I remember getting that. My mom was getting that into the 21st century, but she's not a Cosmo girl. Let's be real. My family has natural girls. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, I've certainly never had or needed a perm, and I don't think I know anybody who's ever had a perm except for my mom. I know people that have threatened to get perms, and I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No.
01:15:24
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Yeah, that's a serious. That's not like bangs. Getting a perm is something you need to dive in front of your friend. Yeah. Don't do that. If you want curly hair, just get out some curlers. Yeah. You don't want this. It's a hassle. um But yeah, so anyway, so Elle catches Chutney in her lie, and Chutney admits that she's the one that shot her dad, and it was by accident because she thought it was Brooke that was walking through the door. And Elle wins the case! And then we get our final scene, which is... um
01:16:01
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you know, ah the graduation in 2004 of Harvard Law School and Elle is giving the commencement speech and it is a beautiful speech and then we get an update and we're like where everyone is. Sorry, I'm just realizing I don't think Emma and Elle kiss in this movie. No way. Well, here's the thing. It's not really a rom-com. No, I thought it was way more. And then I rewatched it and I was like, oh yeah, I fucking love this movie. It's i mean it's ah it's an absolute delight. It's a 21st century masterpiece. It's a classic. It's a classic. It's a TNT is the new classics.
01:16:40
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yeah um the
01:16:45
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But the romance is is ah is a The D plot, maybe? Yeah, the D plot. It's way more built up in the musical, because you know of course you've got to have that in musical. like they They put Emmett in to way more scenes and yeah really make their relationship um more of the B plot. I need to see the musical. I've never seen it. I've only heard it, yeah. So great. ah So so good. They have they've recorded Laura Bell Bundy MTV did a recording of the stage production. Oh, i know that yeah yeah.

Musicals and Fashion Discussion

01:17:16
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Yeah. Yeah. So really, you have no excuse because that's how I saw it. I should watch it. Yeah. Oh, have you not seen it live? No. Yeah. No, when I was really obsessed with it, I was at school in East Texas where in the early to mid 2000s and I would watch bootlegs of musicals on YouTube.
01:17:35
Speaker
Oh, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the Batboy people, the Batboy. Yeah. And I love Batboy. I have seen Batboy. Batboy's great. Yeah, Batboy's great. Fleekabooan, also great. Charlie's Corner, it was good. Uh-huh. That's it. We wanted to see the sequel, so we must have liked it. He really likes it. I was at a friend's son's first birthday a few years ago and down in Texas. And so Charlie had the house all to himself. And he texted me and he goes, I just saw the most amazing documentary about female empowerment and a woman entering the law legal force. And and I am moved. And I was just like, put what? What movie? What did you watch? Weirdo. And he was legally blonde. That was the first time he'd seen it. That's the first time he's seen it. And he he was like, it is fantastic.
01:18:36
Speaker
I definitely saw this movie in theaters. um I would have been early high school. fool um Yeah. Loved it from the beginning. Seen it a million times. Owned it on DVD. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. um What do you feel is your white sweater for this movie? Oh my God. I know, because you know, Elle has, I can give you some stats on the fashion in this movie. Oh yeah. Which is absolutely nuts. It is 75% of the IMDB Trivia. I'm sure. Yeah. I don't wear a lot of pink. It's not that I don't look good in pink and it's certainly not that I don't like pink, but it's just, you know, I, um, I have red undertones and red hair. So it's not, it's a lot of red.
01:19:23
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It's not quite my, I mean, I look good in green, for example. It's not really my, um my thing. I mean, she looks amazing in everything. I'm trying to, um I'm just looking at some images here. Oh, the, oh my God, yes. When she's, I think it's when she, when she goes to court and she's got the, um ah the, like, jacket and the blouse with the big red brooch. Yes! The little pilgrim chic outfit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Loved that outfit. Yeah. Loved that outfit. um I think that my my white sweater, surprisingly, actually, isn't going to be an outfit that El wears in the film. um My white sweater is every single time that you see Bruiser in a matching outfit, including graduation. Yeah.
01:20:11
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ah Bruiser is also um a fashion queen in this. Bruiser brings it. And Bruiser looks good. R.I.P. R.I.P. Bruiser. The last gay icon in this movie. The last gay icon. Happy Pride. Happy Pride, Bruiser. this This episode I think airs in August, but you know. We're recording it. Actually, the weekend before Pride. We didn't watch a gay rom-com for Pride. We're so bad at the recording sticks in advance kind of thing we're on. Right. We'll be so bad. Yeah, because we're going to start having to do Halloween ones. Yeah. Spooky ones. Yeah.
01:21:05
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Oh, man.

Podcast Closing and Future Plans

01:21:07
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Speaking of movies, what movie are we doing next week? Oh, shit. Should we do Mamma Mia? Let's do Mamma Mia. Let's fucking do Mamma Mia. I'm so excited. All right. We decided that in the exact second that it finally let me switch accounts. We're doing Mamma Mia. Mamma Mia is a rom-com, and a rom-com, and a rom-com. Yes, it is. It's a Mamma Mia. Yeah. So there we go. And a musical. Is this the first musical we've done? oh This is the first musical that we've done. Yeah. Holy shit. All right. Mama Mia it is. Mama Mia. ah Shall we outro? Yeah, um we should outro now that I can open this in a normal way. I was going to say this also means we're going to get another week of Emma just singing the songs. Yep, that's fine.
01:22:03
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You want to start? Sure. Thank you for listening to Go Get Your Girl. If you like us, tell your friends and please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It helps out a lot and we would really appreciate it. Thanks to Andrew Milliken and Nick Spioboda for our theme music and Elena Henderson for our artwork. You can follow us on Instagram at gogetyourgirlpod or email us at gogetyourgirlpod at female.com. You can follow me on social media at Emily M. Pizza and me at Katie of the Lake. Until next time, we're just two girls standing in front of the internet asking it in it to love to love us. Good night. Good night.
01:22:47
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oh my god oh my god you guys asked i i wouldnna guys tune it and oh you guys so go ahead to we have some wired headphones around here somewhere oh my god this is happening Our own homecoming king and queen. Oh my god, you guys. Oh my god!
01:23:25
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jesus This dress has to seal the deal. Make a grown man squeal. But it can't come right out and say bride. Can't look like I'm waiting. Or like I'm asking for it. I've got to leave Warner his pride.
01:23:53
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This is, um, you're lucky that I didn't turn it into cat lyrics because a lot of the time I'll just change a song like meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow
01:24:14
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We could probably wrap this up in like 20 minutes and that way you don't don't worry about it. Yeah. Okay. Well, so if there's echoes, I guess we'll try to take them out in post. I don't know how that works. Yeah. You know, we'll make it try and sound as good as possible, but it is what it is. Sorry, listeners. I mean, I don't think you need to apologize because I think I made it up to them for singing Oh My God You Guys for the past like three minutes. You're welcome. I'm gonna cut that out for sure.