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Bull Durham
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Katie made Emma watch Bull Durham, but she's being very gracious about it.Join them as they talk about Covid, baseball, Aliens, having sex in a tub, memories of our childhood! And also there's a major announcement!
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Charlie's COVID Quarantine
00:00:00
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Well, Charlie still has COVID. Oh, dear. Yeah. He's still in the guest room. He like half serious, half jokingly was like giving me a hard time about quarantining him in the guest bedroom. And so on our group texts with like Madison and Nick and and all those people, um he was like, Emma's kicked me out. i'm I'm just a poor sickly boy. And everyone was like, well, Charlie, you have COVID.
00:00:30
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Yeah, yeah. you You don't get to choose which bed do you sleep in. You go to guest bedroom and you stay there. How is he feeling? He's feeling much better today. but The past couple days have been, you know, he's been sort of like up and down.
Emma's Immunity Insights
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But ah but hey, i don't I'm negative. So I'm pretty happy. Yeah.
00:00:59
Speaker
I got to be into this. We love to be COVID negative. Yeah, my friend, my friend Cassie has it and her husband Luke has managed to avoid getting it. So that's awesome. It's a weird virus. It's that time of year. I have managed to I have not had it in two years. I got it twice in 2022. And that's all so for a second there, I thought you're gonna say that you never got it. And I was like,
00:01:24
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That can't be right. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I got it twice. Yeah, Caitlin and I both got it twice. Yeah. Yeah. I've gotten it three times. Oh, gosh. Wow. Well, I also live with like patient zero, who gets it at every turn. This is the second time he's gotten it like from England um and come home with it, right? Exactly. This is the sixth time he's gotten it. yeah Oh, my God. Sixth time.
00:01:51
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Oh my god, that's so bad. It's not good. I feel like I should deliver him to, um you know, the center, the CDC, and be like, maybe test his blood and see what's going on here. Because
Charlie’s Unusual Health History
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boy is a magnet for COVID.
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I'm trying not to laugh because it's like not funny, but also like. Oh, it's fun. At this point, like he's fine. I mean, you know what this the long term effects on his brain are going to be. Yeah, exactly. but friday But other than that, you know, like he's fine. He had um he had the chicken pox seven times. So the chicken pox seven times. I don't know what's going on with this boy's immune system. I didn't think you were allowed to have chicken pox more than once. I didn't think that that's what I thought. That's what I thought. Shit. Seven times. I've never had the chicken pox. Oh, you should get boosters for shingles. Well, I'm not quite that old, um but
00:02:54
Speaker
Well, that's adult chickenpox. I did. I know. I know. I know. I mean, younger people can get shingles. But the shingles vaccine is like supposed to get it when you're 65, I think. Oh. I don't know. I know. I know. I know. I could be wrong about that also. But I did get the chickenpox vaccine when I was like 17 or something. So I think. Oh, that's good. I think I should be good. Yeah. Yeah. I want
Vaccine Conversations
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all the vaccines. Yeah. Give me all the vaccines. I haven't got the HPV vaccine. I should probably get that.
00:03:23
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Yeah, I started that. And then you have to like go back so many times. And I kept forgetting. So then they'd be like, well, now we got to start over, Emma.
00:03:35
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um That sounds like me. Yeah. I think I was like, I think i like it was one of those things where the doctor like told my mom that I should get the HPV vaccine. And then she yeah got like offended about it or something. And then we never did it. I get that.
00:03:53
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I get that. Um, yeah. Yeah. Uh, I, I just, yeah. Yeah. But get, get all those vaccines. Can't wait for the monkey pox vaccine. Oh God, I know. Yeah.
Alien TV Show Tropes
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that unsolved case files was like aliens. This is aliens. And I'm like, stop making this about aliens. This is the X-Files? Yeah. Right? Even the X-Files, it wasn't aliens 80% of the time. Right? They had eight episodes that came out this year. And I want to say six of them are about aliens. Maybe even seven. You said William Shatner, like 100 years old. Is he?
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yeah He's so old. Well, I switched to the William Shatner one because the William Shatner one, I was like, well, surely it's not gonna be aliens. and But it's, for some reason, it ties back into aliens. They love aliens. Like, I was just like, oh, well, this is all about satanic possession, like is demonic possessions. He's 93 years old. ahs He's 93? Yeah, yeah. Bro, it's still working. um Crazy.
00:05:33
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It couldn't be me. like I mean, he's sitting on ah in front of a green screen going, demonic possessions. Something that we've only seen in movies. It was aliens. It was aliens. Well, the episode that I was like, I turned it off, I got over, it was like the, ah it was, I think, all the theories on how the world's going to end. And somehow they tied aliens into it. And I was like, come on.
00:06:02
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The apocalypse? Surely we will be ah the author and finisher of our own demise, right? Exactly. How's it aliens? The human race will live forever or die by suicide, so.
00:06:20
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Right? God. That's what Abraham Lincoln said. And I was so excited about this one episode about like mysterious blobs falling from the sky, or like mysterious blobs.
00:06:33
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Aliens! It was all about aliens! You're falling from the sky, like, I would assume would probably be aliens. I just wanted to hear about some weird science shit. Yeah. But instead they were like, hmm, aliens. I mean, I guess that's how they, um, that's how they, like, have to end these things. They can't think of anything, right? They're like, well, I don't know what it could've been. Aliens. Gotta be aliens, yeah. Gotta be aliens. Aliens did it. Aliens did it.
Emma's Film Critique: Bull Durham
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aliens famously featured in today's film. Which I guess Emma didn't like the cinematic masterpiece that is bull Durham, one of the most beloved films of all time. Is it? Is it Katie? Is it definitely? Yeah, yeah, it really is. Uh huh. Cool. Well, I guess they must like baseball.
00:07:33
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I don't particularly like baseball. Here's the difference. I don't have anything against baseball, and it seems like maybe you do, because I got texts from Emma's like, there's so much baseball in this movie. Lillian, do you like League of Their Own? I love a League of Their Own. I love a League of Their Own. There's a lot of baseball in that movie. What about Field of Dreams? Oh, see, I'd never seen Field of Dreams, but Charlie definitely quoted it as soon as he saw Kevin Costner. There's a, cool.
00:07:59
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there's a lot of There's a lot of baseball in in both of those movies, yeah. Um, I have a thing where like, I like, I like sports movies. Like I don't like sports, but there's something, I don't know if I've talked about this in the podcast before, but there's something about a sports movie, like, especially like miracle or, um, or bull Durham or, um, what's another one? Um, cool runnings, the mighty ducks. Um, I think it's because there's like an explicit conflict. There's, there's allowed to be like.
00:08:33
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um You know good guys and bad guys, right? There's like this struggle here, but it's it's nonviolent and Nobody's a cop and nobody is the military um and I appreciate that um because you get to have like that traditional like good versus evil kind of struggle, but um but you don't have to have any of those like complicating factors. And this is not something I thought about consciously, but it's something I thought, why do I like sports movies? Because I don't give a shit about sports. And it's something that I've applied to that you know from the future. so
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But like, the difference I feel between every movie that you have named, except for Bull Durham, with the exception of Bull Durham, is that all of those movies made it fun.
Deep Dive: Bull Durham's Focus Issues
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Like League of their own. I'm having a whale of a time. Like, um boy, oh boy, is it a hoot and a half with these ladies playing baseball? Well, I mean, obviously, that's better because it's women. I'll give you that. Yeah, yeah. Um, but also, like, there is a mission, a through line of, like, the main story is on the team.
00:09:45
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like Oh, that's true, yeah. and is The B-plot is the sister conflict. Yeah, this movie is not about the team light yeah and having to do well or something. um Friday Night Lights is the other big example. And then the the TV show, specifically Friday Night Lights is fucking masterpiece. But I fucking love Friday Night Lights so much. I know you do.
00:10:07
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The um Yes, this is not at all about like, this team is, you know, struggling to achieve a goal. And then like, exactly, the like the movie ends before their season even ends. Like, it's not yeah at all.
Podcast Feature: Go Get Your Girl
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um Like, you know, I don't know. well po Oh, what what show is this? Who are we? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's right, guys. Yeah. ah You guessed it. This is Go Get Your Girl, the podcast where Emma and Katie debate over how much baseball should be in a movie. And I'm Emma.
00:10:37
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and I'm Katie. And I made Emma watch a movie she didn't lie. It's fair. I made us both watch a terrible film last week. So I feel like we're even I feel like boulder is better than ah jazz Ramsey a canine mystery on every metric. However, see, Charlie couldn't tell by the end of it. Charlie was like, I can't tell if boulder is better or jazz Ramsey is better. Charlie didn't like boulder.
00:11:07
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Charlie did not like Bull Durham either. That's insane to me. It's I assumed you must have been some kind of outlier. um Charlie and I both were like ah crazy to me. I don't understand. It's sexy. There is a sexy scene. One sexy. There are so many sexy scenes. Name one other than the sex scene.
00:11:33
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Any scene that Kevin Costner is in. I knew you were going to say that. He's so hot in this movie. Do you disagree with that? Do you not find him attractive? He is. I do find him attractive. I do think he's hot. It also doesn't help that I think that Tim Robbins is a fucking idiot. And he's a goofball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's a goofball. He's too young in this movie. Like Tim Robbins. Yeah. I know he's like 30 years old, which is crazy because he's supposed to be like 22 or something. Yeah.
00:12:03
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But he looks like he's 17. He doesn't look like he's 30. And Tim, and and hair and and it is the hair. And um and his face. you know He's just yeah got a goofy looking face. And Kevin Costner is only 33, but I think he's supposed to be like 40 something. yeah Yeah. Yeah. Like Susan Sarandon. Susan Sarandon's 42 in this movie.
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Yeah, that track. Okay, I have a lot of questions about this. And she's hot as hell too. She is very, very beautiful and she wears really cool clothes. So I- The first outfit with the skirt and the sweater off the shoulder. Yeah, I did love that. It was really cute.
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um
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This is Bo Durham from 1988. written and directed by Ron Shelton, who has pretty much only done sports movies. like he was a He was a professional minor league baseball player um and ended up making movies. And most of his movies are about sports. He wrote and directed White Men Can't Jump and ah Tin Cup, which I haven't seen, but is also is Kevin Costner and Rene Russo, and I hear is also very hot. um And lots of lots of other sports things.
00:13:18
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yeah well like my first note is Susan Sarandon who does a lot of voiceover in this about baseball to sort of like just speed us along in terms of what's going on with the baseball um she loves baseball she loves baseball and as do many people i yeah whatever and you know if we had a lot of listeners i think people some of them might be angry with your I mean, fair. I'm just not a sports person, guys. And I apologize. I'm not a sports person either. I'm not a sports person either. We're the wrong people to be talking about this movie, honestly, probably. Yeah. Or the right people because we are um objective. That's true. That's true. One of us more objective than the other. Apparently so. um But my first note is baseball. Then Susan Sarandon is making baseball sound more interesting than it is.
00:14:13
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And then my third note is, is she a hooker for baseball players? This was all in the first dialogue. No, she's not. She's just an independent woman who likes to have sex with baseball players.
00:14:28
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And you don't find out what her job is until like three quarter of the way through the movie. For the longest time, I turned to Charlie. I was like, what do you do? Right? What does she do for money? Which is what the audience is thinking. Yeah. Yeah. Because she's just going to baseball games, sitting at baseball games.
00:14:46
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Hooking up with baseball players. Um, so yes, I have um I have listened to the audio commentary of this not recently so I could be getting some of this wrong but I listened to the audio when I bought it it came out in the Criterion Collection like five years ago and I watched the audio commentary of it then we're listening to it I guess and They the director and so it's it's him and ah the director Ron Shelton and Kevin Costner and Susan Sarandon I think Tim Robbins maybe not there because they were broken up at that time. I matter. This is where yeah Tim Robbins and Soon's trying to met on this movie and they dated for 20 years. Jesus. And never got married.
00:15:22
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Um, but yeah, and they talk about a lot of scenes that were kind of more about her character got cut out of the movie. um I know that there's a whole scene. There's a scene where she's wearing a veil, like a black veil at a baseball game. And it's because one of the other characters died. The, yeah, the old guy, the like clown guy who's in like the beginning who she's dies.
00:15:46
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Yeah, he dies in a car wreck in a deleted scene of the movie and they felt like it was weird. So they cut that out. And there's a whole thing. I don't remember this, obviously, but like about why she loves baseball. And I think it had something to do with her father and like specific baseball player because there's that that shrine in her apartment yeah to that baseball player who I don't know. But he's I think he's a real baseball player.
00:16:08
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yeah Um, so it's all there's a lot more of that like explained in the original script that i all got cut out of the movie Which of course like we can't judge a movie based on scenes that got cut out, but they're they're white there was a little bit more to it. Yeah, I feel like I maybe would have enjoyed the movie a little bit more. Because the way that I left this movie at the end of the movie, I just felt gross. I was like, this is some sports nerds fan fiction. And I can't about just a hot lady who just is sexy as hell and hooks up with baseball players and then helps them get to the major leagues. Like it just
00:16:48
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I felt nothing. And every single scene was with Susan Sarandon, I wanted more from her character, I wanted to know more why she was doing what she was
Susan Sarandon's Role Analysis
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doing. But ah the only thing that the movie was giving me was that she was horny for baseball players.
00:17:04
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Well, I think that she thinks like it's kind of like like when Kevin Costner says like we do the same thing like he's brought in to this guy has like a lot of talent, but he's rough around the edges and yeah he needs to be like he needs to learn control. And so I think Susan Sarandon has kind of assigned herself this job of doing the same thing for these these young men.
00:17:26
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like romantically like emotionally like she reads them poetry and like she's because they're all like the thing is like she picks these these dumb ass boys right that she's 20 years older than I mean I know Tim Robbins is older than that but like he's supposed to be like I think 22 years old yeah um and I think that there's like I think there's something to that not necessarily in like uh um ah realism way but in like ah this is this is a character that I that I buy and maybe that's a southern thing I don't know um yeah the other thing about this movie you know is that i it's set and shot in the town I was born in Durham North Carolina so there's probably a lot of that involved in why I love this movie too yeah I get that I completely get that yeah because it's like watching home it's like going home
00:18:17
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Yeah, it is. And Durham was a wildly different place. Like I've been to that bar, um Mitch's Tavern, where they have the glass door from the movie. Like they've got it in the bar and they've got like, you know, the pictures and everything. Like, yeah, that's like, which is in Raleigh. It's not in Durham, which is wild because that means it's like 30 minutes away. Absolute minimum from the ballpark. So yeah. um But yeah, it's like a whole thing. And like the um you know I've been to Durham Bulls games. like It's a very much um nostalgic thing for me. So there is that. And there's like you know streets and stuff that I recognize. um But Durham is so different now from from the 1980s. It's like a completely different place. Durham is very much like
00:19:06
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a cool indie music kind of um has ah has a whole like downtown scene and everything. and it's It's basically unrecognizable. Durham is very cool now. It was not cool when I was like a baby living there. I sort of remember because so i we lived in Raleigh. I was born in Durham, but I lived in Raleigh and my sisters and my grandparents all lived in Durham.
00:19:31
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And um i we would go back there a lot, but I don't really remember physically living there, just barely, because I was like four when we left and moved to Tennessee. but um But yeah, I definitely spent tons of time there um as a kid all the way into, you know, not so much recently, but before I moved to Chicago, I definitely would have grown a lot. yeah Oh, well, it's a little slow story. But now I'm going to make you feel bad about not liking this movie. No, I still don't feel bad. I get why you like it. I mean, like, it was never a question that the fact that, like, you have ah sort of a sentimental reason for loving this because it is like your hometown.
00:20:08
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But ah I mean, the same thing would happen if they made like a sports movie about like Bluff. um Sometimes I feel that way about Home Alone because I it was shot in Winnetka and I lived there till I was two. But like Home Alone is way better. Hey, I love Home Alone. Don't get me wrong. Home Alone is great. Yeah.
00:20:33
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Um, but yeah, I just, it was just the whole thing that like the story wasn't focused enough. It was too like shifty focus, but like not, it never didn't get like deep enough for me. It wasn't about the ROM and it wasn't about the sports, but yet it was about the ROM and it was about the sports.
00:21:01
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Yeah, and it's a weird choice for this podcast for sure because it's a it's an odd kind of rom-com. I mean, it's hard to say like, I guess I think it I think it is a rom-com. I think that's probably the genre it fits the best into. I would classify it as a rom-com because it's primarily about a relationship the climax resolves with the relationship the sports like we said is not it's Like the the games and who wins is not important. Like it is about these three characters. Um, it is definitely a like character piece, but it is, it's a, it's a weird, like it's a hangout of a movie. Um, which is, it's, it's, it's the plot is kind of secondary, which is, yeah I mean, that's a Katie Coleman thing. I mean, that's, that's what I write. It is like,
00:21:49
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It's just about like setting and mood and these these characters and them kind of like bouncing off each other in in different ways. um and and i yeah I find it very warm and um and comforting and um it's a hard thing to describe because, yeah, if you go through the plot beats, it doesn't seem like something that that works. Yeah. Well, and some might say when when you're Emma and you're watching it, it doesn't work.
00:22:26
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But you know, that's that's why we love art. That's why we love cinema. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Everybody is entitled to their own um you know views and of what's good and what's bad. And like we were discussing before we pressed record, ah two famous movies that Emma loves that you do not.
00:22:47
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That's true. That's true. The one thing about this movie is that nobody mansplains baseball to the woman character in this movie, which no, I mean, I know it sounds like I'm making fun of La La Land, but like it's true. Like a lot of times in these sports movies, there's like the woman character and somebody had like the man has to come in and be like, okay, so here's this and this is what this happens. Like she knows more about as as much about baseball as they do, which I yeah appreciate. Yeah.
00:23:13
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Yeah, that, I mean, that was good. It was just the fact that they talked about it so much. But like, they talked about baseball. They talked about baseball, but like, it also didn't matter. Because like, I think if they had talked about baseball, and it then like, you know, there's was an endgame to it. The endgame is him getting his him getting like control of himself, like of of, you know, Tim Robbins character, like growing not only as a baseball player, but as a person for sure.
00:23:42
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I didn't really see that arc. You didn't see the arc? I mean, come on, he's, he's throwing, he's, he's hitting people with the ball at the beginning. And then she makes him wear her garters. Yeah. Like he's in his head, right? Like, I mean, it's so much Kevin Costner. Like the, but the movie is, is, is both of the, both these characters are like two in their head, two interior and having to like learn how to, to,
00:24:12
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to let go and embrace like chaos a little bit, I think. Yeah. So tell us some plot points, Katie. Okay, so Bull Durham is set in Durham, North Carolina. um And which is, I mean, gosh, I don't know, let's see. Durham population,
00:24:37
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2024. In 2024, Durham is half a million people.
Understanding Minor League Baseball
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um And in 1988, it was 175,000 people. So that's quite a big difference. um yeah it's ah Yeah, it really has become a lot bigger. um The research triangle population is i let's see over two million people so Raleigh Durham Chapel Hill which is like they're all it's basically one city they're all about like 15 to 20 minutes drive maybe 30 minutes from Raleigh to Durham um around each other but they all sore almost touch
00:25:20
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Um, and many, many people like live in Raleigh, work in Durham, that sort of thing. yeah Um, it's, uh, so like, it is like a city, um, much less so in the eighties, I guess, but there it's a minor league baseball team and it is not even a triple A minor league baseball team. So I did look this up last night. So.
00:25:42
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They're in the Carolina league, which at that point is a single, so the Durham Bulls in reality are a triple A minor league baseball team. They might not have been in the eighties, but they are now. A triple A minor league baseball team is basically they're all gonna go to the majors or they're people who were in the majors who have gotten older and have come down or have gotten in trouble for one reason or another and have come down to the minors. Minor league baseball is- Like the Chicago dogs. If you say so, yes. Is that the minor league baseball team? I don't know.
00:26:12
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Again, I looked this up last night. This is the limit of my baseball knowledge. Go on. A single A minor league baseball team. Again, minor league baseball is professional baseball. They're all getting paid. Yes. In single A, they're probably not getting paid very much.
00:26:30
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um And maybe some of these guys have jobs in the fall, maybe not. But um in AAA minor league baseball team, like that's their job. They're professional ballplayers, just like major league baseball players. It's just not nearly as much money. Yeah. But single A, it's much it's much less likely that they're going to go to to the major leagues. Maybe they'll go to a AAA team after that, and then they'll go to the major leagues. But him, like,
00:26:56
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going up ah to the show, as they call it in the movie, is kind of the the overarching plot of the movie. So he's this kid, um Tim Robbins, and we kind of we really start with him. like We're at the ballpark. Susan Sranin is narrating about baseball, and she's like, it's poetry, which is like kind of a whole thing. like There's very much like baseball and poetry and like the- Sex. Well, no. Yeah, sure. But I mean, like baseball in general, like there's the Ken Burns baseball documentary, um where there's a lot of like, I'm never watching that. i I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. But the um I have watched the Ken Burns Civil War documentary, which I love.
00:27:40
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um It's there's a lot there's a lot of people who love baseball, like love it for I think it's exceptionalism in other sports. Like it's nonviolent. It's much slower than most other professional sports. So there's kind of like, it's kind of a hangout vibe. It's like this movie a bit, you know, like there's, it's, people describe baseball as poetry, which I would, someone who loves baseball would have to probably explain that a little bit better, but it's, there's, there's a beauty to the game of baseball that I think
00:28:17
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people who love baseball don't find in football or hockey or basketball or something like that. And sometimes the way that it's shot, I can feel that I guess is what I'm trying to say. okay um More so in something like the television version of A League of Their Own, which I think is much better than the movie um or um or Field of Dreams or something like that, where it's much more about kind of like,
00:28:43
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the magic of these dudes going to do this silly thing. um it's ah yeah It's very much a dudes rock movie. If you subscribe to that ah yeah theory, the theory that dudes may in fact rock. Dudes rock. So yeah, the plot is um Tim Robbins, who with the unlikely name of Ebby Calvin Lelouch. Lelouch.
00:29:13
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who eventually comes up with a nickname, Nuke Lelouch, is a pitcher for, and he's just this is his professional debut. So he played in leagues that where you don't get paid, and now he's getting paid to play baseball. um He can throw the ball really fast, but he has no control. So he's throwing it into the stands. He's hitting the the bull mascot, whose name is Will E. Bull, I need to point out, which is not mentioned in the movie. That is not mentioned in the movie. It is not.
00:29:41
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um
00:29:43
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Like his first name is Wool, and his middle name is E. His middle initial is E, and then his last name is Bull. He's Woolie Bull. I used to have a little stuffed animal of him at one point. I think it's at my parents' house. And so Kevin Costner, is who is hot as hell in this movie, yeah I need to point out. I don't know if I have found yes yes absolutely i don't know if i find him attractive in any other movie aside from this. Seriously?
00:30:13
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I mean, like, what what else would it be? Waterworld? No, thank you. Yes, Waterworld. Waterworld? No! He's walking around in merman suit. He's got fucking gills. Yeah, he looks ridiculous. He's got the like... see I feel like he has dreadlocks in that movie. I could be remembering it wrong. No, no. He just has like luscious blonde hair.
00:30:41
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What else has he been in? That was some Angel movie. Oh yeah. There's an Angel movie? I think he was in a movie where there was an Angel in there. I don't know, maybe. um I'm not really up on the the films of Kevin Costner. I've never seen The Postman. Neither have I.
00:31:02
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That feels in the way. Kaitlyn loves Waterworld. She made us watch Waterworld not too long ago. I also love Waterworld. movie is interminable. It's not good, but boy oh boy, is it a fun romp. Is it fun? Is it a fun romp? Most of that movie is him is him being horrible to two women on a boat. Do you remember that? Yeah, but then they make out.
00:31:29
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ah Why? I don't know. He like pushes them. I think he pushes both of them overboard at one point. He does because he's building character. He's building character because they're two women who don't know how to handle the world. Really? Okay. And they need a man to like push them around a man. They just they need a mermaid.
00:31:57
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They don't need a man. It's just a byproduct of their situation. Okay, okay, sure. Um,
Discussing Costner and Sarandon
00:32:08
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ah this podcast is not about Waterworld.
00:32:13
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ah but
00:32:16
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He's in the Untouchables. I don't think I find him attractive in the Untouchables. and that's that He's even younger in the Untouchables. That was before Boulder. Oh, i I don't think I've even ever seen The Untouchables. I think every time I think of Kevin Costner, I think of Waterworld. Yeah, you gotta see The Untouchables. It's shot in Chicago. it's it's It rules. Oh, shit is, isn't it? The whole climax at Union Station. It's so good, yeah. Oh, shit, yeah. I got i gotta put that on my list. um Sean Connery's The Chicago Way, you know? They put ah we they put one of ours in the hospital. We put one of theirs in the morgue. Come on.
00:32:53
Speaker
movie rules. Chicago, baby. Yeah. Um, this is also not a podcast about the untu- Brian De Palma's film The Untouchables. But is about Bull Durham. So Kevin Costner is brought in who's like supposed to be like this kind of washed up guy who was in the majors for like, a like 21 days, I think he says, and then has been sent back to the minors because he's just not good enough.
00:33:19
Speaker
And he is also, he's playing older and Tim Robbins is playing younger. So I think Tim Robbins, like they keep calling him old man. I think he's supposed to be maybe like 40 or maybe 35 or 36. Like I know like in baseball, like once you're in your 30s, you're old, but I think he's supposed to be more like Susan Sarandon's age. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Because she's 10 years older than both of them. ah she Yeah.
00:33:45
Speaker
The, um which is wild because like, what was she in before this? Like, what was she in between Rocky Horror and this? Because, I mean. I was gonna say Rocky Horror. Yeah, but like, that wasn't a hit. Like, she wasn't, she didn't become famous in Rocky Horror. Like, Rocky Horror is a cult movie, yeah. ah Let's see. When you look up that, and i'll and I'll talk for a little bit. Okay. So, he's brought in to help this kid, like, reign it in. And Susan Sarandon is this character who, her name is I've already forgotten her last name. Her name is Annie and she is a local. She goes to all the games. She writes little notes, uh, that she sends to the players like, Hey, like you're moving your hips wrong. Like, Hey, watch your back or something. And she's always right. Like she is this kind of baseball, um, expert who every season she picks a player and she says they're usually stupid and don't know how to, they don't know how to play and they don't know how to fuck yeah and
00:34:44
Speaker
she by teaching them how to fuck they become better players and then they and she makes she reads them poetry and she like tries to give them an education um and by so doing so they become a better player and then they go off to the majors that's her that's her like little story that she's given herself um and she's a college professor which is why she has so much free time in the summer So we don't find that out. We don't find that out for a long time. Also, Susan Sarandon between Rocky Horror and this, Witches of Eastwick. She's in the Witches of Eastwick? Yes, she's in the Witches of Eastwick. Oh, Michelle Pfeiffer. Michelle Pfeiffer, Cher and Susan Sarandon. That's who they are. Yeah. Yeah. I also didn't know Witches of Eastwick was before this. I thought Witches of Eastwick was like 89. No, it's 87.
00:35:38
Speaker
Oh, okay. There you go. There you go. Um, which is V-Swick. Uh, good ass movie. Yeah. Love witches V-Swick. I've actually never seen it. Oh, it's good. It's good. I need to put it on my list. It's spooky season film. It is. Yeah. Definitely not a rom-com. Nope. About witches. Yeah. And the devil. Love it. And definitely not aliens.
00:36:06
Speaker
probably not aliens. Yeah. ah Yeah, so that's basically the plot of the movie like Kevin Costner and Tim Robbins butt-hagged because she is attracted to to Kevin Costner and she invites them both to her house and she's like, Listen, I'm gonna fuck one of you for the season. But other than that, it's monogamous. So yeah, who's it gonna be? And Kevin Costner is like, No, we don't do that. I don't do that. Like, I'm not if if we're gonna fuck, we're gonna have like a relationship. And he has this long monologue about like slow, wet, deep kisses that last for three days, which is pretty good. i mean that That monologue was pretty sexy. Yeah, like it's a famous it's a famous line. Yeah. Um, and so she starts fucking Tim Robbins character and gives him a nickname new.
00:36:51
Speaker
And at the same time, Kevin Costner is trying to teach him how to be a better baseball player, um and how to do interviews, and like how to not sound like an idiot, and yeah um that sort of thing. So that the kind of go the it follows the course of the the baseball season, sort of, because it ends. They don't like win the championship or whatever, which is what you would expect from a sports movie.
00:37:17
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Right? We don't know anything really about this team with the exception of like three players, maybe four. And, um you know, we don't know who their rivals are. We don't know anything where they are in in the season or. Yeah, it's kind of bad. It's kind of bad grounded. Yeah. um It's it's about like the first half of the baseball season, I guess, because baseball seasons are also very long. It's like.
00:37:45
Speaker
A hundred and some games, which is insane to me. Too many games. That's too many games.
00:37:52
Speaker
But um yeah, and then like he gets better and Kevin Costner and like Susan Sarandon kind of like realized that they like want to have like a real relationship with each other. um And Tim Robbins gets drafted up to the major leagues. And so he's gonna, at first he's like, well, I can, I'll come back, you know, well, and then she's like, no, that's not gonna happen. And he kind of has the maturity at that point to understand like, okay, like,
00:38:22
Speaker
you you can have like something real with him, whereas this was just, you know, I was a project for you. And so he goes onto the major leagues and Kevin Costner immediately gets fired from the baseball team. Yep, immediately. And then it has like the shortest third rom-com act of all time. It's so fast, I got whiplash. Yeah, which is weird because like the movie is not long, but the the way that the ending kind of stretches,
00:38:53
Speaker
The ending kind of stretches out because he comes back, they play house for a few days. Like there's this, frankly, pretty hot sex scene, like multiple sex scenes, multiple sex scenes, pretty hot, with the exception. Charlie and I could not get over the fact.
00:39:09
Speaker
that they um turn after they eat ice cream and the weenies and then they just start doing it on the kitchen table they knock over milk they knock over cereal they make a huge ass mess and um it's just all over the floor and then they just leave it there for a couple days that kitchen smells so bad and probably so many bugs there's half a gallon of milk on the floor yeah yeah and they don't do anything about it Yeah, I don't know. Is it supposed to be the next day or is it supposed to be like? It felt like it was like two days. Regardless, that milk was on the floor for too long. That's not what you want. You don't want the milk on the floor for like a minute, honestly. Exactly. It would take two seconds for Kevin Costner to be like, let me move this bottle of milk and this food. They're too passionate. like
00:40:05
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You can be passionate and be like, let me move the breakable things out of the way instead of throwing your bowl into the sink and breaking it. Yeah, I don't know. That was pretty hot, actually. The bowl of the sink is hot. The milk? No, I'm not into the milk. Yeah, yeah I'm not into the milk. That cat is going to drink that milk. It's going to get sick. Exactly. There's going to be cat diarrhea. Yeah, it's going to be a whole thing. And you guys did this to yourself. Yeah.
00:40:34
Speaker
I thought you were gonna say fucking in the tub, which is like a whole other, like, situation. Whoa! I mean, Charlie couldn't cover the fact that the water level was too high. I think they gotta put the candles out, yeah. There was like, the water level in that tub is too high! They're gonna get water all over the floor! They're gonna make such a mess! Then he must have been flabbergasted by the next scene, or they knocked the milk over. Oh wow, it was just building up!
00:41:01
Speaker
yeah um I don't know yet there's like a I mean I have I have I have had sex in a in a body of water before yes but like there's a it's not like it's not it's not easy like it's not like super fun there's like a friction lubrication situation happening with when you're underwater like also it has it depends on the size of the tub like yeah yeah which must have been huge Oh, yeah, to fit two people to like, I mean, Susan Sarandon's tiny, I think, but yeah, like, I love a good tub. I love a good soap. um And even my last at our last condo was the biggest tub I've ever had. And even that wasn't big enough for two people.
00:41:47
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, for real. Like it's always like, I'll like, we'll take a bath together and then like you take a bath together and it's like. It's super awkward and you're like teeny tiny and you're only like, only your knees are in the water and then you just are both there with your bits hanging out in a not sexy way. Exactly. Yes. Yes. I mean, maybe, maybe if we were five three, Emma, but neither of us are five three. That's not possible, right? Yeah. Neither of us. Not possible. We need a pool.
00:42:17
Speaker
Yeah. yeah i It looks hot, though. It does look hot. And um she has some she has some great outfits. She's got some like, I don't know, it was the 80s. So I guess there's this kind of like throwback fifties kind of thing. That's where I got confused, Katie.
00:42:36
Speaker
At one point I texted you and I was like, oh, I didn't realize this what didn't take place in the 80s. And it was because she picks him up. She picks up Tim Robbins from the first like tour that they do of games. And she's got a 1950s car. And I was like, wait a minute. And then I saw another 1950s car driving by there. And then ah i then I was like looking at her outfit. And all the every single song is like classic jukebox 1950s music.
00:43:04
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And so I was like, wait, has this movie been taking place in the 50s this entire time? I can see that. I can see that at least at first. um But then you were like, JK, I just saw a Motley Crue t shirt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then I was like, no, no, we're we're in the 80s. So I was like, I don't think it takes place in the 50s. But much like there's a 2000s resurgence now, much like there was an 80s resurgence in the 2000s, there was a 50s resurgence in the 80s.
00:43:34
Speaker
Yeah. Um, so yeah, and she's like that that skirt especially is very like it's not quite a poodle skirt, but it's close. Yeah, she's got a petticoat under there. Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's so cute. I love that outfit. Um, she wears a lot of off the shoulder stuff. um yeah She looks great. Yeah, her her house is really cool too. Like there's so much like, like as she talks about how she's like she's tried all these different religions and the only religion that she's ever like, um attached herself to is baseball. So there's all this like, baseball.
00:44:04
Speaker
stuff in this, in our house. Yeah,
Bull Durham's Costume and Scene Critique
00:44:06
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her accent is a little much. Um, baseball. One thing I will give Andy, oh, I would need to, oh, corrections. Um, in a segment, in a segment that we will call, um, actually, I don't know if you want to do a song. Um, actually, we'll work on that. In the episode on Four Weddings and a funeral, I repeatedly ah mentioned that Andy McDowell is in Happiest Season, which she is not. That is, of course, Mary Steenburgen, the great Mary Steenburgen. Steenburgen? I don't know. but um I got my curly-haired 60-year-old women confused. I'm so sorry. It will happen again.
00:44:49
Speaker
Mary steam version is a much better actor than Andy McDowell. um So I apologize to you. I apologize to Ted Danson. And anyone else affiliated with you?
00:45:04
Speaker
I'm not gonna lie when you said that, when we were recording that episode, I was like, was she in that? I guess I just am not remembering it correctly. Okay. You need to call me when on my bullshit when I say stupid shit more. like I'm a middle child and a Libra. yeah I am here for compromise.
00:45:29
Speaker
um And I talk faster than I think so that's gonna be Yeah, that's true actually as as the constant text messages you receive on Mondays will tell you I I say many things that are not cracked on this podcast and oh and love Has to do with my husband And this is a this is ah not a research podcast and we're gonna say things wrong and sometimes I If we think about it in time, we'll have our corrections segment, um, actually. Corrections corner. I'm working on it. What we called it, what we called it, um, actually. Um, actually, no, it's a process.
00:46:11
Speaker
Yeah, that's a process. um Yeah, so um they have a lot of sex, and then he leaves because he isn't finished with baseball yet, and he goes to Asheville, which looks like they, it looks like they filmed that in Asheville. I'm not sure, but I mean, it's not, it's a few hours away from Raleigh Durham, so I guess maybe they did, which is very close to where I i actually did grow up in Tennessee. um It's like 45 minutes away from Johnson City, Tennessee, where I'm from.
00:46:39
Speaker
I spent a lot more time in Asheville than Raleigh Durham as a conscious person, at least. As a conscious person. Well, you know what I mean. As a kid, you don't remember. Years zero to four. There's not that many memories. They don't remember anything. Yeah. I remember our house. I remember the house we lived in in Raleigh. I remember the layout of it and stuff. I remember building a snowman. I remember having a birthday party there and stuff. Do you remember like being four or three? Um, I think my, I remember my earliest memory is of my dad and my sister playing fetch with her dog at the time. I think I was like, we were living in Wanaka, so I was like around two years old. Um, but I mean, that's, that is just a fluke. It could also have been a dream. Uh,
00:47:32
Speaker
yeah like i stay with these things Yeah, exactly. Like I remember I remember the house. I don't remember what it looked like on the inside, but I remember what it looked like on the outside. And I remember um I have like some memories of that, but yeah, not a lot. I think like then my next earliest memory is like age five. Yeah, yeah. I remember living in Memphis,
00:48:01
Speaker
a lot I remember a lot of living in Memphis when ah who we where we moved after Raleigh. So from four to six. I remember a lot of stuff from there. um We moved around so much when I was a kid that it's very easy for me to like slot in these things. So if like I remember that, we were in Raleigh, so I must have been this old. And if we were in Memphis, I must have been this old. And if we were in this place, yeah. So it's... ah Yeah. So this movie ends. He leaves to go to Asheville to get his, to to break the league record, which nobody even cares about the minor league, a home run record, which he breaks, but but nobody knows, but Susan Sarandon and him, and then quits and then comes back. And that is the whole third act where they get together. He leaves and comes back in the course of about a minute and a half at home.
00:48:50
Speaker
Although the real third act is I mean the real third act is him going to the majors in the conflict and him being jealous of it and then getting into the fight in the pool hall and all that kind of stuff like that's the real third act of this movie because it's like I'm sure somebody in some screenwriting class has taken this screenplay and broken it down into how it works functionally like on like mapping it out with like screenplay terms and everything but like that's not what we do in this podcast. No, no, we're not that analytical.
00:49:17
Speaker
But in terms of the rom-com thing, like, he's just sitting on her porch and she's ah happy to see him. The end. Like, yeah we're out. End of movie. and An hour and 45 minutes. Yeah. Right. My final note that I wrote, which is about Tim Robbins, and is this guy looks like Dewey Cox. He does look like Dewey Cox. He looks like Dewey Cox. Yeah, he's got that kind of like, he's got the kind of like,
00:49:44
Speaker
question yeah oh um at one point I then started sketching out um Christmas ornaments that I'm gonna make uh-huh that's nice and then I drew my cat aww except it looks like a dead rabbit well from a distance I does look like a dead rabbit Jesus from a distance I thought it from a distance I thought it was titties so I get
00:50:11
Speaker
But I am I maybe I'm just used to what Caitlin sketches like any time like oh my god, of course she does Yeah titties and dicks um We used to play we we played like um it's not Dungeons and Dragons but it was like Dungeons and Dragons is called Pathfinder we played that for a while with some of our friends for and Caitlin and I Neither one were were very into it. Like I have a whole thing, but I'm just dragons not neither here nor there. I looked over to Caitlin, sitting next to me, she was like drawing on her little thing instead of paying attention, and it was always titties.
00:50:49
Speaker
So many breasts that she drew in the margins of her page or whatever. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Because there's so many different kinds of titties. That's true, that's true, yeah. Speaking of titties, another thing that bothered me about this movie, um one of the first things that we see of Tim Robbins is Tim Robbins and this little blonde chick who's- Millie. Susan Sarandon's psychic, hooking up. And Millie comes into the shot and her bra isn't doing anything. It is not even, ah there's no point of it.
00:51:25
Speaker
Well, she doesn't have any titties, Emma. like But like you could see under boob. like it You would think at least like it would be like supporting the boobs, but it's like just just a piece of cloth and it like stalks at her nipples. and you're Well, what is the name of sir I think perhaps that she had had some you know movement.
00:51:46
Speaker
had perhaps written up a little bit that the fabric is too loose. It's too loose. It's not doing anything. It's it's pointless. Just go without a bra if you're gonna go without a bra. Like it was just very it was bothering me for a good 10 minutes a costume thing like they didn't want her to be topless and that scene where she has to talk to somebody probably so yeah basically topless
00:52:12
Speaker
um I did not notice that, I'm sorry to say. Yeah, sorry. Well, the next time you watch it, look at that bra situation because it is absurd. I was disappointed there is zero hog in this movie. I really thought there was going to be a hog. Like there's even a locker room scene, but they've all got their towels on. Yeah, sure. Yeah, we see, we see Tim Robbins butt. Yeah, that's the first thing we see of him, honestly. ruing but Yeah. Yeah. Thrusting butt.
00:52:40
Speaker
um But yeah, there's no nudity in this movie, right? Like it's rated R and they say fuck a lot, but there's no yeah, there's no nudity There's just a lot of see-through talks and but there's a lot of like Implied like there's a lot. I think I think we get some side boob from Susan Yeah, yeah, exactly. I mean whenever they do the like let's have sex on the kitchen table and ruin your kitchen um They're both wearing robes And to the point where- She's wearing his shirt, right? She's wearing a men's dress shirt. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's doing the classic. And she's also got her feet spread four feet apart, which love the confidence of that lady. Get it. Live your life. She's sitting on the counter. He's sitting at the kitchen table, and she's got a leg on the back of his chair and a leg on the table, and she's just giving him the spread eagle.
00:53:32
Speaker
Oh yeah, the spread eagle, the OBGYN shot. Yeah. I almost called it that. That's better. It's very confident. We love that. Yeah. Yeah. We love a confident vagina. Be confident with your vagina, ladies. Just, hey, let it do its thing.
00:53:55
Speaker
And that's where we'll end it. Yep. Yeah. ah yeah ah As I've probably made it very clear, um both myself and Charlie. know Yeah. ah I mean, both myself and Charlie were just not fans of this film, I hate to say. Very disappointing. And ah yeah, that's pretty much it. i've I've said my piece on it. I've said my piece.
00:54:27
Speaker
um I fund actually actually have a bunch of starred things I wanted to say, sorry. um So she likes to play Edith Piaf when um she has men over ah for culture, I guess. And when Tim Robbins gets there at the end, he's banging on the doors. I know you're there, I hear that crazy Mexican singer. Oh yeah, funny I got that too.
00:54:48
Speaker
Um, when Millie is getting married, uh, near the end of the movie, she, who, you know, she slept with a bunch of people, she asked Susan Saranda and she goes, do you think it's okay that I'm wearing white? Susan Saranda says, honey, we all deserve to wear white, which is so true. That's very sweet.
00:55:03
Speaker
um when When Kevin Costner gets thrown out of the game intentionally for calling the um the umpire a cocksucker, Susan Sarandon and Millie, it's the same scene. she's getting She's trying on her wedding dress, so they're not at the game. They're listening to it on a badass radio. Did you notice the boot box that she has?
00:55:23
Speaker
It rules, it's like i hot pink with turquoise buttons and stuff and like accents around the speaker. It's like so 80s, would kill for that. I actually saw, this this is actually like they Igloo, the the ah the company that makes like coolers and stuff. They sell one that looks so much like that. It's gotta be like based on you know a model from the 80s or whatever. It's pink and it's green and it's got a boombox built into it.
00:55:52
Speaker
Um, and I, I almost bought, it was like $250. Oh, that's way too much. Yeah. A boombox. Um, the, the announcer on the radio says, and Kevin Costner just called an umpire a name that they don't like to be called. And Millie goes, he must've called him a cocksucker. And Susan Serena goes, he's so romantic.
00:56:16
Speaker
Oh boy. um they yeah When Kevin Costner first meet first meets Susan Sarandon, and this made me think of Charlie, um she asks him to dance, and he goes, I don't dance. And she goes, how embarrassing.
00:56:32
Speaker
yeah Right, Charles? Yeah, that's all that's that's all the things I wanted to say. Amazing. Amazing. All right. So beautiful as we or you you do it. You do it, yeah.
00:56:46
Speaker
Oh yeah, so as we have announced previously, starting next week, ah Go Get Your Ghoul is gonna do a little something different.
Podcast Shift: Horror Movie Season
00:56:55
Speaker
We're gonna do something a little spooky.
00:57:01
Speaker
ooh That's right, it's gonna be Go Get Your Ghoul. ah where for the entirety of spooky season, Emma and Katie will be watching a horror movies instead of rom coms. So it's a little bit of a left turn. But we will still incorporate all of our favorite things. You know, if there's a fuck word, there will be a Charlie's corner. um If there's a go get your girl speech, you know, because a lot of horror movies have a lot of the same tropes as rom coms. Yeah. So um go get your girl speech. Yeah.
00:57:34
Speaker
Exactly. Go get your ghouls speech. yeah The bloody sweater instead of the white sweater. Yeah, exactly. What do you think the bloody sweater is? So join us for the spooky season. um We're gonna kick it off with my pick, which I'm gonna start us off strong with my all time favorite horror movie, Scream. Hell yeah. Yeah. Great choice.
00:57:59
Speaker
Thank you, thank you. I have to start off with a solid tried and true. Tried is going to get so annoyed that we're going to have to watch Scream for the umpteenth time. Oh, yeah. No, and we watch we watch Scream like every year. Yeah. Yeah, yeah it's a classic. It's a freaking classic.
00:58:14
Speaker
Um, also Charlie doesn't understand, uh, what go get your Google is. And so he keeps suggesting like rom-com spooky rom-coms instead of yeah like horror movies. So he's constantly like, could you, could you say that? Like, could you do vamps? Could you do the movie vamps? Cause that's like spooky and like, rot they're like on the search for love.
00:58:38
Speaker
Could you do that? I I haven't seen that either. And I was like, Charlie, let's not go get your ghoul. It's just horror movies. I think we're not going to. Charles. Stop. Get with the program, Charles. Come on. Get with the program. Anyways, thank you for listening to Go Get Your Girl. If you like us, tell your friends and please rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It helps out a lot and we would really appreciate it.
00:59:05
Speaker
Thanks to Andrew Milliken and mix the voter for our theme music and Elena Henderson for our artwork. You can follow us on Instagram at go get your girl pod or email us at go get your girl pod at gmail dot.com. You can follow me on social media at Emily and pizza and me at Katie of the lake. Until next time, we're just two girls standing in front of the internet asking it to love us. Love us. Good night.