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Go Get Your GHOUL presents: Scream
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Happy spooky season friends! This week begins the spooky scary mini series Go Get Your Ghoul! Join Emma and Katie as they kick things off with a bang! Or shall we say a STAB! That's right- they're talking about the 1996 Wes Craven Hit Scream!
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Hypothetical Murder Scenarios
00:00:22
Speaker
terrifying me through my bedroom door. We had a real good scream that I was going to use as the beginning of the episode, but we weren't recording. So, you know. Yeah. of thing it Exactly. Right. But it's just for us. Just for us.
00:00:39
Speaker
That's true, yeah. And then a bit of a talk about whether or not Charlie would murder you or not. Yes, exactly, and how he would murder me, which he doesn't have the back to be able to physically chop me up, so it would be prison. Right. Yeah, everybody's got to know. That's true, yeah. I feel like Caitlin, if she were going to murder me, it would be physical. It would be like she would strangle me to death, yeah. Yeah.
00:01:09
Speaker
one lat One pun, too many, and that would be and she would snap, yeah. And that would be her downfall. That would be her downfall. She wouldn't get away with it. No, she she doesn't have the chill to get away with it, yeah. She'd be too excited. I don't know if you can hear her, but she's literally just in the other room doing yoga, guy and she goes, I don't know, I get away with a lot. I get that. So anyway. Yeah.
Podcast Introduction & Theme Shift
00:01:36
Speaker
with talk of murders and screams and and that sort of thing. um you Oh, that you do the intro to the episode, don't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. um That's right, guys. um You guessed it. This is the podcast where Emma and Katie talk about um how they just aren't ready to lose their virginity, but then they are ready to lose their virginity.
00:01:59
Speaker
Um, yeah, I'm going down that road. Uh, and also their mom was murdered and they, uh, accused a guy, but then there's someone going around killing all their friends. So like, what's going on? That's right. This is go get your Google.
00:02:18
Speaker
hi emma And I'm Katie. Um, yeah. And we are of course talking about, uh, so yeah, so it's the month of October, go get your girl has become go get your Google. And instead of rom-coms, we'll be talking about horror movies. And for our first episode of Go Get Your Girl, we are talking about the 1996 horror comedy-ish masterpiece Scream. Yeah. Directed by Wes Craven and written by Kevin Williamson.
Wes Craven's Impact on Horror
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Wes Craven, of course, directed Friday the 13th.
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Speaker
ah other movies. Other movies. I thought I could just do this. I could do this on the top of my head. the People Under the Stairs, um which is great. He directed he directed the other Scream movies, of course. He did not know. The Last House on the Left, that was like ah the early one that he did. He also has directed some um Uh, some, some weird ones. He directed music of the heart with Meryl Streep. Um, but, um, yeah, primarily known for the Nightmare on Elm Street series. Um, and he, uh, and horror movies like, uh, oh, here we go. Yeah. Shocker, uh, the serpent and the rainbow. Um, the, uh, the hills have eyes. Yeah. but Yeah.
00:03:42
Speaker
oh And um Kevin Williamson, this was his first produced screenplay. He was 29 years old when he sold this screenplay. And for him he went on to create the television show, Dawson's Creek. And he wrote, I Know What You Did Last Summer and teaching Mrs. Tingle and a bunch of like, and the faculty and a bunch of teen harmonies. And then he also created the Vampire Diaries, which we've, I think discussed extensively on the show. What? He created the Vampire Diaries? Yeah, yeah.
00:04:13
Speaker
What did Dawson's Creek do at all? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was trying to think, I was like, what was it that I watched recently where they did like a jump a Dawson's Creek jump scare? And it was Urban Legends. And because, um what's his name? Joshua Jackson, who gets in the car. Yeah, Pacey Jackson. yeah Yep, yep, Pacey. He gets in the car, and then he turns on the radio, edits the theme song, and he goes, oh, absolutely not.
00:04:41
Speaker
And it's like, that's ah, ha ha ha ha ha ha so funny. We all know where you're from. And then he gets killed. Yeah. And then he gets killed like right away. It was very sad because I love that man. a Yeah. Oh, my God. I love Joshua Jackson. Yeah. Yeah.
Revitalizing Horror with 'Scream'
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Speaker
He is. ah um Yeah. Kevin Williamson is kind of responsible for creating the the horror boom in the late 90s with this movie, like horror movies had kind of gotten a little less popular West Craven's career was starting to to like stagnate and especially like the teen horror movie, like it was huge business in the eighties and in the nineties it kind of died out for a while until, until scream. And this screenplay was kind of a play on the horror tropes of like Halloween and Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street and about, it was, it was very self-aware, which we will get into.
00:05:37
Speaker
And very, very refreshing. And a lot of this movie was not expected to be a big hit, and it was an absolutely massive hit, especially for its budget and started a a rest restarted a genre, which honestly is still kind of going strong today. I mean, horror is still one of the most profitable movies you can make.
00:05:57
Speaker
Yeah, it's great. And also started a franchise, its own franchise, which I- Very lucrative. Yeah. Long running franchise. Yeah.
Ranking the 'Scream' Series
00:06:06
Speaker
Oh yeah. It's my favorite horror franchise, I think. and Just because of its self-awareness and then also, and just its tongue in cheekness. And it's just not afraid to like, be dumb. And- Rank the screen movies for us, Emma.
00:06:22
Speaker
Okay, rank them. Well, obviously, scream one is my is the OG. I love scream. Obviously. Yeah, obviously. Um, I kind of really enjoy scream five, where we bring it back. So that's, that's gonna be my number two. um My number three, scream five. Yep. Yep. The second reboot. I
00:06:46
Speaker
With the exception of or poor, Courtney Cox's bangs, Scream 3 is gonna be my number three. um Oh, interesting, okay. Yep, then Scream 2. That gets ranked really low because of ah they kill off my favorite character in that one. um And then- What's his name? um Oh, god. Randy. Yeah, Randy. They kill off Randy. And also, they just don't know how college theater works, and it gets really annoying. I just like, she's like rehearsing in full costume and makeup, and like with lights and sound, and like, it just like gets very, very annoying. They have a very long tech process, like they... Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like her professor is a British actor, and just like, I just, I can't,
00:07:40
Speaker
I forgot about that aspect of it, yeah about the the college theater stuff in Scream 2. Oh, it's very, very heavy on the college theater stuff. and it's like And also the film department gets its own lecture hall. like they just they don't Have they been to a college and seen how arts are funded? Because it's not like that. They're in Southern California, you gotta remember.
00:08:01
Speaker
Oh, that's true. That's true. We're not talking about Scream 2. Continue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're not talking about Scream 2. And then I enjoy Scream 4, which is the first reboot. um So I'm going to put that in number five. And then um Scream 6 is the latest one, right? That one I'm going to... Yeah.
00:08:25
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Ghostface takes Manhattan. um I'm gonna rank that, because that's the one that I've seen the least. I've only seen that once. So um ah
Overview of 'Scream' and Sydney's Story
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yeah, I'm gonna rank that as six. Yeah. Sure. That's my hard ranking. I'm a little different from you. I would go ah scream one, scream two, scream five, scream four, scream six, scream three. Oh, you really don't like three?
00:08:55
Speaker
really don't like three. Yeah. Parker Posey. Yeah. Parker Posey. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. The movie thing is dumb and like, I don't know. I just, yeah. I've definitely seen Scream 3 the least often. And it's the one that like Kevin Williamson didn't write. I mean, he didn't write five or six either, but he wrote one, two, and four. Yeah. And I feel like you can tell the difference. Like I feel like Scream 3 is a, it was a It was, I don't know, it feels like more like ah like, okay, now we're just doing a horror franchise instead of where we're doing something interesting with all of these things, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that, I get that. um i I think also I forgot, because like obviously me watching this reignited my, or started my annual viewing of the franchise. I've made it to three. I i have to continue with the rest of them. um ah But,
00:09:53
Speaker
Two actually might get bumped up. I think I remember who the killer is in three. Oh, it's her half brother. That's the only one killer instead of two, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's her half brother.
00:10:06
Speaker
that she didn't know existed, who's the producer on the movie, or he's the director. Yeah. Sorry, spoilers for Scream 3. Spoilers for the entire Scream franchise, yeah. Yeah, for the
Exploring Horror Tropes in 'Scream'
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entire screen franchise um i Scream Scream 2 is actually gonna get bumped up for me because I just remembered that they brought a joke over from Scream 1 to Scream 2, and watching it back to back, it's hilarious.
00:10:33
Speaker
Um, which is how someone asks her, uh, asks, um, what's her name? Oh my God. Oh my God. Sydney Prescott. Someone asks Sydney Prescott if, and when they make a movie of this like situation who would play her and she goes, probably knowing my luck, it'd be Tori Spelling. And then they cut two clips from the movie in the second movie and it's Tori Spelling playing her.
00:11:03
Speaker
Yeah, that's cute. It's great. It's really cute. It's really good. um Yeah, it's this this movie is just it's gold. It's it's great. It's funny. It's scary. It's all the things I actually was telling Charlie I have a theory ah that I'm going to try and push for.
00:11:24
Speaker
in the screen franchise. would you I just think that it is, and I know that the murder is different in every single screen movie. But in some way, I feel like Ghostface is in love with Sidney Prescott. And this is just a long rom-com. Just a long rom-com. Just a really long rom-com.
00:11:48
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Yeah, yeah, I mean, like it is there is there is definitely that there is that like the obsession, the at least until Sydney Prescott does not appear in movies. Yeah, it's the first one she's not in. She's in five. Yeah, she comes back briefly in five. um She's at the hospital.
00:12:06
Speaker
oh yeah um And So it is it is like the obsession thing is all about. So because she's so central to all of this. And the plot of this movie is so complicated. um We're going to have to break this down. But yeah yeah yeah, definitely that. I mean, it's the same thing with like Michael Myers and Laurie Strode. Right. Like there is yeah this obsession that that has to be at least some kind of love. Right. Like Yeah, love and the fine line murder are there's a fine line. Yeah, I think he does a really good job of of walking that line between like it never really becomes parody. It's more yeah it's tongue in cheek and it's self-aware, but it's never really it's not making fun of horror movies because it's still it's it's utilizing the tropes while commenting on them at the same time. And it somehow doesn't it doesn't feel it doesn't feel like above it. And it doesn't feel like it's so
00:13:04
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It's mocking it, but it feels like it's embracing it and having fun with it at the same time, yeah.
Sydney Prescott's Intricate Narrative
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Speaker
Yeah, which is great. And it's what makes this movie a freaking classic. You'll laugh and cry. that yeah A lot of movies that came after were not able to follow that line as well. Mm-hmm, yeah. Yeah, they tried. Last number is not nearly the movie that this is, even though it's written by the same person.
00:13:28
Speaker
Yeah, and but like they also took the, I have a whole opinion because I love Lois Duncan, who is the author of the book, I Know What You Did Last Summer. And I was obsessed with her horror books as tea as a tween, um because they're sort of like horror books for teens. ah And I- She was pre R.L. Stein, Christopher Pike, yeah.
00:13:53
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was obsessed with her books. And they just, they did not do the OG source material justice. And they changed much crap. She wrote Killing Mr. Griffin, which became teaching Mrs. Tingle. She wrote, I know what you did last summer. She wrote Hotel for Dogs, which is terrifying, obviously. She wrote Hotel for Dogs. Apparently, that's just what popped up in the whole video. Also, her daughter got a winner. I didn't know Hotel for Dogs was based on a book.
00:14:21
Speaker
Yeah. In real life, her daughter was murdered. Oh, yeah. She has a book called Who Killed My Daughter? Fuck. Yeah. It was a whole thing. But my personal favorite that she wrote was Gallows Hill, which is about some teens that live in Salem and all of a sudden the same mass hysteria. Salem with Charles starts happening in modern day. It's great.
00:14:49
Speaker
Sure. Yes. But I digress. They never for they never caught who killed her daughter. Her daughter was murdered by an unknown friend, she says. Yeah, it's a whole thing. You can listen to many a true crime podcast about it. OK. Yeah, if you want to. But anyway, so scream. So so let's walk through the plot, Katie. Oh, God, this is going to take an hour. OK. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Like like Halloween.
00:15:18
Speaker
started the slasher franchise, right? Like Halloween, it said on Halloween, there's a mass a guy in a mask who murders babysitters. And for some reason, he has a hard time murdering Jamie Lee Curtis, and then That's it. That becomes his whole thing. yeah But there's no reason for it. There's no plot. Like you don't find out who I mean, if some of this in the sequels, they like make him her brother or whatever. And then they undo that. It it gets complicated. very But in the original the original Halloween movie, it's like, no, he's just some guy. She's just some girl. And he is like he's just a boy. He's just a girl. Can we make it and make it more obvious? Yeah.
00:16:03
Speaker
Um, was a pauseuse you know, she did Bella. Yeah. Uh, we don't know. We don't know much about Michael. meer I mean, he killed his family and that's, that's it. Yeah. So I guess that's pretty punk. Yeah. Kill, kill your family. That's pretty punk rock. Jesus. Nope. Don't kill your family. Please don't yeah don't kill your family. Don't go get your girl does not support murder.
00:16:31
Speaker
Um, uh, yeah, or like, and you know, Friday the 13th, there's like a little bit more, like there's a story, like, you know, his mom, like the, the boy was was drowned in the lake while count counselors were having sex. And so the mom goes crazy and starts murdering.
00:16:48
Speaker
They're the kids of the camp who are having sex. And then her son comes back from the dead. And and then he's the murderer. Yeah, and then it goes off the rails in the sequels, as as do many of thing many other things. like You know, Nightmare on Elm Street, a guy is ah murdered by a bunch of teenagers um in the in the past. The teenagers grow up.
00:17:15
Speaker
He invades the dreams of their children to kill them, to pay them back. Still relatively simple, this despite being magic. But the plot of Scream bit more nuanced. It really is. Okay, so we've got Sydney Prescott. Her mother, her mother, Maureen, is murdered.
00:17:45
Speaker
by an unknown person a year before the movie starts. Yes. she Well, we we think we know who it is. Cotton Weary yeah is Leah's driver. What the fuck name is that? But OK. Yeah. he's in He's in like two scenes of this movie. um He's barely in it. Is the person who she thinks did it um yeah because she was having an affair with him Yep. And apparently she had a lot of affairs. Yes, her mom was a big old slut. Big old slut. Well, you know. Slut and trap. Okay. So that all happens before. So she's kind of traumatized. Yes. um Because of this trauma, she doesn't want to lose her virginity to her yeah boyfriend.
00:18:34
Speaker
Yeah, and he doesn't understand. He's like, why are you still so hung up on the fact that your mom died? And she's like, well, my mom died. Yeah. Well, she was she also she was raped and murdered. I guess we should if that's an important part of it. Yeah. um ah Skeet Ulrich, who plays Billy Loomis, who, um despite being a terrible person in this movie, is ah super hot.
00:19:00
Speaker
super hot, super hot. However, um you know, I think it's go get your girl canon that the listeners actually, I don't know if I've brought up my weird sort of obsession with um his bestie. Oh my God, what's his name? Matthew Lillard.
00:19:20
Speaker
with Matthew Lillard, my strange sort of attraction to Matthew Lillard. Okay, yeah, I mean, I see that. like he's he He seems like ah like a like a cool guy, at least, in interviews and stuff. He seems like a sweet weirdo. I love him. um He is, of course, shaggy um in all the Scooby-Doo movies since like, 2009 or something. like He's just kind of embraced that.
00:19:46
Speaker
Yeah, he's great. He also loves being a part of this franchise. He'll go to like horror cons, consistently. ah Yeah, but yeah. Yeah. And he just... I'm surprised they haven't brought him back. I mean, I know he gets murdered in the first movie, but like, yeah. Hilariously, he gets murdered. It's my favorite tale. It is really good. Yeah.
00:20:09
Speaker
Yeah. um Caitlin and I say we're getting woozy all the time. to another Yeah. My mom's going to be so mad. Mom's going to be so mad. ah Yeah, we're getting way ahead of ourselves. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So Billy wants to have sex with Sydney, and she has trauma about that, and so is is is afraid to lose her virginity. Yes. And he is a giant.
00:20:35
Speaker
uh crybaby about it and that's what kind of starts the whole movie really. That's that is what starts the whole movie the fact that he wants to get laid and he doesn't understand the fact that Sydney's mom died is Sydney's not over her mom dying. Yeah which is I mean which is is so like real for yeah teenagers and specifically like shitty misogynist teenage boys um yeah so it's So it's kind of perfect um because that is like what we're dealing with here. um So Sydney has a dad and um some friends yeah and is in high school, but that's not actually where the movie starts. The movie starts with Drew Barrymore. Yeah.
00:21:23
Speaker
Which is this famous beginning, obviously, yeah um kind of an homage to Psycho. Psycho, obviously, you know goes half the movie with you thinking that Janet Leigh is the protagonist before they kill her, which yeah you know shocked everyone. and like but became it's it's i mean it's It's insane that he was able to do that, to pull that off. um And so Scream kind of does the same thing because the trailers were pretty much just scenes from that opening scene. So I think when people saw this, much I of course was too young to see this in theaters. I'm assuming you didn't see it in theaters when you were... now
00:22:01
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No, but I remember, I remember when it came out because everyone in, it was like, I was in middle school or elementary school and somebody, somebody's like a cis brother let them, took them or like let them see it. And they were like talking about it. And it was like, you know, so and so got to see like this horror movie. And they were talking about how Drew Barrymer's outsides were outside her body.
00:22:29
Speaker
Her insides were on her outside. Yeah, her insides were outside her body. Yeah. Yeah. um Yeah. So yeah. So I think people going to see this movie thought that Drew Barrymore was the protagonist. I mean, she was the most famous person in this movie. um And Courtney Cox was on Friends. So it's kind of hard to say. But those those two, especially, yeah, um were the the biggest stars. And it seemed like it was Drew Barrymore was the protagonist. And then they kill her in the first scene. Yeah.
00:22:57
Speaker
um In kind of this, I mean, it's very famous, even if you haven't seen this movie, I'm sure, you know, she gets the phone call, the the voice talks to her, asks her horror trivia questions, which she gets wrong.
Meta-Commentary on Horror Films
00:23:08
Speaker
So her boyfriend gets murdered in front of her. And then she gets chased down and in in a really upsetting scene, like her parents parents are there and they're just out of reach and she can't like get to them in time. And she gets hung from a tree and disemboweled. Yeah. Yeah. And they hear it happen on the phone.
00:23:27
Speaker
Yeah, back during land the time of Landlines and she was on the phone with the killer. Yeah, the the phone is like one of the primary things in this movie, um in the in the series really. I mean, I guess until until the the second reboot, I mean, I'm trying to remember. I've only seen Scream 5 and Scream 6 once. Yeah. he I don't remember. There's not a lot of phone stuff in those movies, is there?
00:23:51
Speaker
There is a little bit, um but they do comment on, yeah. yeah ah they They comment on it. Like I remember i Jenna Ortega getting the phone call and um her going off on being, cause her whole character is that she loves horror movies. And so she sort of like schools this the ghost face on the trivia. And then she talks about how she likes, you know,
00:24:19
Speaker
um horror movies that are sort of metaphoric like It Follows and The Babadook. Right, right, right. um Yeah, because I mean, the the series is about horror movies. I mean, it is a it's in it's about the tropes of horror movies. It's about what horror movies mean to people and what they and and the difference between horror movies in real life. And the original title of this movie was Scary Movie.
00:24:43
Speaker
Yeah. Which I think is probably a better title. Of course, then the parody of this movie immediately stole it out from under it. So... So good! It's kind of forever associated with that series, which is a whole other thing we could get into. Yeah. I love that series so much. But it's just because they do a lot of, oh, they just do, they do like screen, like direct copies of what's in the movie, but you just give Anna Faris those lines and it's hilarious. Yeah. Yeah. It's, I've seen the first three. I have not seen the last four scary movie sequels.
00:25:20
Speaker
Yeah, I think I've just seen the first three. Because after the second one, ah Scary Movie 3 is where it goes off the rails. Oh, for sure, for sure. And then like they were coming out every year, and it was always like different movies that they were kind of parodying, and there were diminishing returns on those. And then like yeah and then the Wayans brothers weren't involved anymore, and like the Zucker brothers came in, and it was weird. There was a dec decline in quality, for sure. Yeah.
00:25:48
Speaker
um But the first three Wayans Brothers
Character Dynamics and Impact
00:25:50
Speaker
scream ah scary movie um movies are are close to my heart. I was in. Yeah, I love. yeah I mean, I was in high school when those movies were coming out. Yeah. Yeah. So, so great. ah But this movie. So, yes, so Drew Barrymore is killed and everyone at school is like, oh, my God, what Casey, whatever her name was, is yeah. Casey, but murdered. Casey, backcker horribly. Yeah. Casey Becker.
00:26:19
Speaker
and um And so then there's all this talk. And so here's the like the group of friends is we've got Nev Campbell as Sydney Prescott. we have, I actually brought up Wikipedia because I'm going to forget these people's names. Oh, yeah. um Rose McGowan is Tatum Riley, which is her best friend, um who is um not a virgin. And there's that's the kind of um like the then like the virgin horror dynamic kind of thing is something that's that's that's brought up in the movie. And like, yeah, something that
00:26:51
Speaker
is is true in all horror movies. I mean, harm and the movie Cabin in the Woods, of course, you know kind of nails this down into specific, kind we've got these things have, have they they repeat over and over again and the characters have to fall into these archetypes, even if they aren't actually members of those archetypes. yeah um We've got Matthew Lillard as Stu, which is Tatum's boyfriend who's a doofus.
00:27:18
Speaker
I love him. He's he's kind of he's not a jock, right? Like he's just kind of an idiot. No, he's just kind of an idiot. He's just sort of like that dude, bro, whose parents are always out of town and you just go to a party house. Yeah, he's he's like a he's not a nerd and he's not a jack, but he's something in between. Yeah. Yeah. You've got Skeet Ulrich as Billy Loomis, who is the hot. I assume he's probably on like the football team or something. Yeah.
00:27:47
Speaker
Yeah, he's the hot, poor guy. Yeah, yeah. Or maybe, yeah, maybe he's just like an outcast. Maybe he's like James Dean, you know, that's his thing. Exactly. Even with the, like, the the white t-shirt and the hair and everything. He's, they're doing that. So hot. No, we've got, then he gets arrested.
00:28:04
Speaker
Right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And and he's but he's the fall guy. Right. And then Randy Meeks, who's Jamie Kennedy, who is the nerd horror film obsessed like he's the one who's like, OK, so here we're in a horror movie and here's what we have to do, which is yeah the thing that Scream did that nobody had ever really done before.
00:28:22
Speaker
Yeah. i'm In a big movie. And then we've got some, and then there's some adults, uh, Courtney Cox as Gail Weathers, the bitch, um, journalist who's there to like profit on all of the murder yeah and David our cat as Dewey, the, the goofy, uh, sheriff's deputy. Dewey. Um, and then Henry Winkler is the, uh, principal of the school.
00:28:47
Speaker
Yeah. and um And, you know, just you think that maybe it'll stop with um Casey Becker, but it does not stop with Casey Becker. More murder and call or will first calls start happening coming in to Sydney Prescott. And she's she's so she's the first one to get a call after after the the opening scene. Yes. Yeah. um Because she takes a long nap.
00:29:15
Speaker
And then she ah she is attempted murdered, so she gets the cops involved, which of course, you know. He shows up at her house, right? Uh, Dewey. That's the first thing that happens. No, no, no. The, uh, oh, ghost space yeah. Ghostface shows up at her house. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and I don't think he's necessarily trying. He's necessarily trying to kill her yet. Like yeah I think he's fucking with her. Yeah. Yeah. He's just trying to scare her. Um, and then the bit where she has that, she has the bedroom door that opens and the closet door that's next to the bedroom door.
00:29:50
Speaker
and they open the way of where they wedge against each other, which is so like a detail in this movie that has always stayed in my mind. um I think it's such like a and ah perfect little little tiny thing to put in a movie, like such a specific kind of little thing to put in a movie. And like sometimes we'll we'll be at like, you know, like a friend's house or like an Airbnb or something. And like, I've seen that before where it's like, oh, it's like screen.
00:30:17
Speaker
It's like scream. The closet wedges against the door. You can get away from the murderer. Yeah, so he gets away and then she immediately runs into her boyfriend. Yeah. Who drops a cell phone, which in 1996. What's a bit of a big deal? Yeah. On its own. Like if you had a cell phone, you were a drug dealer or a ghost face. Like a ghost face. Yeah, and especially poor hot guy. Why does poor hot guy? It's true.
00:30:48
Speaker
Yeah. Like that seems a bit much. Yeah. Yeah. And so he's immediately arrested. Yep, yep, and nobody's surprised. And Sydney goes to stay with Tatum and Dewey. And Tatum and Dewey. Dewey, the sheriff, is Tatum's brother. Yeah. Yes, and still lives at home. And how old is he? Is he supposed to be maybe 25 or something? Yeah, early 20s, mid 20s. Yeah.
00:31:22
Speaker
something like that. But, um, there Tatum and Dewey's mom is a fucking idiot and comes in and goes, Hey, Sydney, there's someone on the phone for you doesn't find out who it is. Um, just, you know, after it talked like this on the phone right yeah but like she could have been like oh yes who's this and you know proper phone etiquette would have saved this bit proper phone etiquette i mean the other thing is it could have been either one of them and they could have just not turned the voice modulator on when they talked to tatum's mom well yeah but like imagine yeah but she could have asked who it was that's true that's true yeah she should have asked who it was
00:32:06
Speaker
Yeah. And then she could be like, hey, your boyfriend's on the phone or hey, you know, and then. And that's when her daughter gets killed. She deserves it. Exactly. Goodness. Gracious. Oh, what did I say? Minus 10 points for fat shaming the average weight camera guy. Oh, yeah. There's some fat shaming. Yeah. Well, I mean, she's supposed to be a horrible person. So that's part of it, I think. But yeah, for real. Yeah. Yeah.
00:32:32
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um So yeah, Gail Weathers, ah who is like a, not quite papa like a paparazzi, but for
Gail Weathers' Character Analysis
00:32:40
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crime. you know yeah were there There were these TV shows, there were these really like crappy TV shows in the 90s, like a hard copy and stuff where it was, they would come on at like, you know, 7 p.m. or something before prime time started on like, um on the net where they were like syndicated shows and it was like these really exploitative,
00:33:03
Speaker
investigative journalist stuff where it's like, they go into the town and and interview all these people about murders and stuff. And it's really like, these these have become podcasts now. Yeah, I was gonna say, they were true crime podcasts before true crime podcasts. Yeah, yeah. And like, but true crime podcasts, at least a lot of them have like an air of, they're a little bit more reputable than these shows. yeah Like these shows are so trashy. um And that's who she's supposed to be.
00:33:31
Speaker
Yeah. um And immediately on the scene and bothering everyone and everyone hates her. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone already hates her because she did a piece on Sydney Prescott's mom and she named Sydney Prescott's mom and basically insinuated that Cotton didn't do it. And she's like, she believes that Cotton didn't do it, which she is right. He didn't, but yep.
00:33:56
Speaker
he's ah She's a bitch about it, yeah. She is kind of a bitch about it. And that's sort of like a through line throughout the franchise is that Gail, like then she writes a book about the scream murders and then the book becomes a movie. And then, you know, it just sort of like escalates and it's constantly like, how can Gail Weathers profit off of trauma? But there's a bit of redemption to her as well. like Yeah.
00:34:21
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She's a complex character for sure. She is. Because she ends up falling in love with Dewey and like, Corny Cox and David Arquette met on the side of this movie and were married for many years. Yeah. And were apparently like best friends still, which is sweet. I like that. That is very sweet. Yeah. They've got, um, I know at least one kid together, maybe two. I think so. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.
00:34:44
Speaker
Um, but yeah, uh, and she looks like a little mini Courtney Cox. It's very, very cute.
Climactic Moments at Stu's Party
00:34:49
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Um, but yeah, so she, Sydney is staying with Tatum and Dewey and the killer calls her at the house and then she's like, what the fuck? Um, and then well then now we know it's not Billy because Billy's in prison. Exactly. Uh, it was the whole idea was to prove that it wasn't Billy. Um,
00:35:12
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to just discuss her more. Because, spoiler alert, it is Billy. Yes, exactly. It is Billy. It's both Billy and Stu, but Billy is the mastermind, for sure. Yeah. Stu is just along for the bunsies. Yeah. But yeah.
00:35:31
Speaker
So then the high school goes on like lockdown and they cancel classes and everyone's real excited about that. And that of course, because who wouldn't? And Stu's initial response is, well, obviously I'm throwing the party. So he... Yeah, right. Yeah. The principal gets killed, but the kids don't know it yet. Yeah, yeah the kids don't know it yet. Henry Winkler gets killed in this in the empty school. Yeah, that's what actually happened.
00:36:00
Speaker
Yeah. um Well, the almost empty school because we have, ah is it a Wes Craven jump scare? Yeah. Yeah. It's Wes Craven playing Freddie the janitor in the sweater and everything. So it's a cute little cameo. It's a very, very cute cameo. ah And he's he looks so lost. He's like, whoa.
00:36:20
Speaker
ah But yeah, so henry right Henry Winkler then gets murdered and the kids are like, let's go party like it's 1996. So they go to Stu's house, who's thrown a big old bash. And for some reason, Dewey just drops off his sister and potential murder victim, Sydney Prescott, at this underage drinking party ah and then does not go inside with them. He just is like, okay, bye. and i'm like He's not very responsible, Dewey. He's very not responsible. It's just like there's so many dumb mistakes made. so And it's all it's all Dewey's family.
00:37:09
Speaker
They are all responsible. That's true. Um, and this is where, um, Jamie Campbell, um, Randy is kind of like trying to explain to everybody, like what, what, what happens? Like, okay. So this is a horror movie. We're in a horror movie. They're watching a horror movie. They're watching Halloween, I think. ah Yeah. they watching hall And he's like explaining the rules. And this is yeah where we, this is another famous scene where he's like, these are the rules of a horror movie, you know?
00:37:37
Speaker
What are the rules of the horror movie, Emma? Do you? You cannot have sex, otherwise you're dead. You cannot say, I'll be right back, otherwise you're dead. You can't do drugs or drink or do anything that would be classified as immoral, otherwise you're dead. And that's pretty much it that I can remember. Yeah, I think there's something else, but I can't remember it either. I should have written them down. Oh, the killer always comes back.
00:38:07
Speaker
That's right. Yeah. The killer always comes back for one last year. Yeah. Yeah. Of course happens. Yes. And at the party, honestly, the party is like, that's the climax of the movie. Like yeah the, the, the second and third act basically all take place at this party. Um, we get there like, Oh man. Yeah. On time code. Like we get to the party, like less than an hour. Yeah. And like more than half the movie is at this party.
00:38:37
Speaker
Yeah. So um Tatum, Rose McGowan, bla goes to the garage to get some beer from the yeah garage fridge. The family had a garage fridge. And they were fancy. And yeah.
00:38:53
Speaker
And um the killer is in the garage, obviously. Yes. And well, I mean, Billy gets released from prison. I guess we should mention that that happened. Oh, yeah. And has this very awkward run in with Sydney at school. Yeah. And she's like, oh, you're you're not the killer. But I thought maybe you were the killer. And he's like, yeah why won't you fuck me?
00:39:15
Speaker
That's the exact monologue where he literally spells out the fact that he doesn't understand that her mom being dead is the reason that he's not getting laid. And she famously says, which is repeated in the scary movie, well, I'm sorry if my past trauma is being like your problem or something along those lines. And she runs away weirdly. Yeah. Now I'm picturing Anna Faris running away. I know!
00:39:44
Speaker
And so good. Yeah, so at the part Tatum, um she gets that she has like a face off with the the the killer and then she tries to climb through the doggy door of the garage and he opens the garage door and she gets her
Final Showdown and Killer's Motives
00:40:01
Speaker
back broken. Yeah. The garage that she can't fit through a doggy door because she's small, but she's not that small. She's not that small. So dumb move, Tatum.
00:40:11
Speaker
Yeah. And you also get the famous TikTok clip of, oh, you want to play a psycho killer? Can I be the poor, innocent victim? Oh, oh, yeah. And they do that in Scary Movie, too, like Anne's degree, too. Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah. She's he's mocking him at first because she thinks it's, you know, Randy or somebody yeah fucking with her. Yeah. Exactly. um But then he actually kills her. Yeah. And then ah somehow Sydney and Billy make up and then she has sex with him. yeah And then, you know,
00:40:53
Speaker
The rules are gone. She is now ah up for the slaughter. yeah And ah immediately after having sex with Billy, Billy then gets, quote unquote, murdered. I'm gonna use quotes, air quotes, because he doesn't actually have that. In front of her. So more trauma, for Cindy Prescott.
00:41:18
Speaker
yeah And this entire time, ah Gail Wetters and her not obese camera guy have set up a hidden camera inside so that they can watch this teen party happening. And Gail is also having a little mini date with Dewey. That is all also happening at the same time.
00:41:43
Speaker
yeah anyway then Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then at some point, most everybody leaves. Well, they find out the principal's dead. So everyone goes to see his body hanging from the tree, which is fucking dark. Right. They're like, Oh, cool. Yeah. Um, like a meal.
00:42:06
Speaker
I did not like the principal of my high school, but I'm pretty sure if he was dead, I wouldn't like rush to go see his corpse. That's a little extreme. It's a little dark. ah That works for like, you know, the callousness of youth that, you know, where we're we're dealing in here.
00:42:24
Speaker
Yeah. um And then things start to happen. What happens to Randy again? Like, I mean, these we we recording dates, I watched this movie like over a week ago and I don't know. That's OK. So Randy is luckily I know this movie and backwards and forwards. Randy is maybe like ten times, but still. Yeah.
00:42:45
Speaker
Randy refuses to go see their dead principal, like, you know, right a civilized human and is just drunk watching Halloween and screaming at the TV. And um then the killer comes in and the hidden cam is behind the TV, but there's like a delay. There's a 30 second delay from what's happening live to um what they're seeing in the news.
00:43:12
Speaker
van. And so they can see the killer sort of sneaking up on Randy. Randy gets stabbed. um And we assume that he is dead.
00:43:25
Speaker
And then the, somehow Gail crashes her car. The killer goes and kills the camera guy. right yeah It's like a whole thing. And everybody dies in this movie also, right? Yeah, everybody dies. Except for Randy and yeah Sydney and Dewey and Gail.
00:43:49
Speaker
Yes. um But yeah, we- So Randy gets stabbed and survives, right? like He's he' in the ambulance at the end. Is that how it is? Yeah. Same thing with Dewey. Dewey gets- Exactly. um Yeah. Well, because um he comes back, he has like a little jump scare and saves Sydney in like a final- Dewey does. Dewey and Randy.
00:44:12
Speaker
Oh, right, right, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. um That's how we find out that Randy is still alive. And ah then the killers ah have their final sort of monologues about they monologue it out for Sydney and reveal themselves. You think it's you think it's Stu and he because he starts like.
00:44:36
Speaker
like revealing it like he starts. Yeah. And um then you find out that Billy's still alive and it was faked and it's fake blood and stuff. So yeah. And they reveal their whole plan, which is so complicated. So complicated. Like he killed her mom. Yeah, because she was sleeping with his dad. Yeah, yeah.
00:45:03
Speaker
Yeah, there's a yeah, there's a whole thing with her mom, like her mom was apparently like sleeping with a bunch of people. And Nick just was causing problems. Oh, right. And her dad disappears. yeah Her dad was supposed to go on a business trip, but it but they can't he never checked into the hotel. So he's disappeared and we assume he's dead, but they've got him at this house all tied up. Yeah, because they're going to they're going to make him the fall guy. Yes, right. Yes, they're going to they're going to pin it on him. and um He the plan and then they have this, you know, this whole monologue bit where the two of them are trying to explain everything. And the idea is that he's going to Billy's going to stab Stu and Stu is going to stab Billy. So they both so they both survive with wounds, but the the murders get pinned on her dad. I mean. But.
00:45:57
Speaker
Billy changes the plan and stabs to ah too many times, yeah which is where, of course, you get the, I don't know, man, I'm getting wo skin woozy.
00:46:08
Speaker
So, so good. Yeah. So he dies and, oh, and Gail gets there. There's no, there's, it's, there's a lot that happened. There's a lot that happens. And it gets stabbed as well. Yep.
00:46:25
Speaker
but he survives and everybody gets stabbed, which is why the movie within a movie is called stab. That's true. Yeah. The movie they make based on Gail's book and scream two and three is called the stab, the stab franchise. yeah The stab franchise. So good. So good. So that's pretty much the movie.
00:46:49
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, Sydney eventually gets, ah Billy Gale shoots him um and then he comes back for, like they think he's dead and then he jumps back up and Sydney shoots him in the head and says, ah what does she say? Not um not in my movie.
00:47:12
Speaker
Not in my movie, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, not in my movie. ah And then we get the Peaky Blinders theme song, which then continues throughout the franchise.
Cultural Impact of 'Scream'
00:47:22
Speaker
The Peaky... Oh, Red Right Hand is the song? theme song. They played that at the beginning of the movie too. um Yeah, Nick Cave, Red Right Hand, great, great song. Using the X-Files too, yeah. Oh, well, it's the Peaky Blinders theme song. Oh, it's in Peaky Blinders, yeah.
00:47:42
Speaker
But sex and her mom dying are not related. Oh, that's one of the notes that I got. Sex and her mom dying are not related. LOL. And to the end of many horror movies, this woman is ah horribly traumatized for the rest of her life by the events. Yep.
00:48:03
Speaker
yep these three days or whatever, how much time passes in this maze. Right? Like it's, it really only takes place over three days. ah And yeah, and it ends with Gail getting the scoop on the, said yeah, she got what she wanted. She almost died, but she got what she wanted.
00:48:27
Speaker
And she saved Sydney and she, you know, has um has developed a relationship with Dewey and has softened a bit and has you know, it proves that she actually cares about these people more than just her story. So it's, yeah, her character is a little bit deeper than, then you know, evil reporter lady. Yeah. Yeah. And she like definitely, yeah, her character grows and she has a really good, like sort of development arc. All throughout. I thought they were going to kill her in six. I was really, I was really excited they killed her. yeah Well, cause they kill off Dewey in five.
00:49:07
Speaker
I know that fucking sucks. I hate that shit. I hated that. I hated that. No, but like you also needed to because it was a rule of the franchise. It's the whole thing. Like he's supposed to be the guy who gets horribly wounded in every movie and somehow survives. That's the Dewey way. Yeah.
00:49:26
Speaker
god And then things start going crazy because they kill off Randy in the second one. And then, but then they they have to have some tongue in cheek, like tie back to Randy. So then his sister is a PA on a movie. And then- He has a video that he recorded for them, yeah. yeah Yep. Yep. And then i her kids become involved in five and six and it's like a whole thing.
00:49:57
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, ah the OG, also I forgot that Stu, as he's dying, Sydney's asking like, well what are you gonna, what are you gonna tell people when they find out that you're the murderer? And um he says, oh he succumbed to peer pressure.
00:50:17
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And like, there's also this like, I think Stu is probably like in love with Billy. Yeah. you get oh I mean, can absolutely I think it's definitely like intention because Kevin Williamson, the screenwriter is gay. um And so I think it's hard not to assume that that's intentional. yeah And the only reason it wasn't spelled out was because it was 1996 and they figured a movie for teenagers probably wouldn't wouldn't appreciate that as as much, but I think it's definitely subtext um that there that these two guys, if not necessarily had like, ah there wasn't anything spoken, but I definitely think at least on Stu's part that he was probably at least a little bit in love with with Billy. Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, why else would you kill?
00:51:08
Speaker
Why else would you kill if you weren't in love with your best friend? Exactly, exactly. So in a way, it really is rom com. Yeah, between Stu and Billy. Between Stu and Billy, and they love each other. And they're just, you know, trying to make it and in in the 1996 world. Yeah, it's hard to be a gay teen in 1996.
00:51:34
Speaker
right? It's hard. It's hard. I also caught on this viewing. um Sydney has an Indigo Girls poster in her room. And I was like, hu yeah I wonder if that was intentional. Huh, I mean, they were pretty popular. It's hard to say like that was like, um I don't know, I think a lot of women in general, like little affair kind of thing, you know? Yeah. You didn't have to be a lesbian. You didn't have to be a lesbian to like, indigo girls. Yeah. Um, but, uh, but yeah, I would scream is great. I love this movie. but I mean, the, the costume design also is fantastic. Like the ghost face look. I mean, that was like a Halloween costume when, when I was a kid, like, yeah
00:52:25
Speaker
scary like if it's yeah especially if it's dark like somebody wearing that mask like it is it is it's spooky like it'll make you jump for sure but like what obviously this is like a costume that they bought at a store because there's like a mask involved that is the idea in the movie in the movie the idea is that this is a it's like a the ghost face mask is kind of a thing that we can get at a Halloween store. Yeah. Yeah. and Of course it's true in real life. like Oh, for sure. Yeah. Thanks to this movie. Because of the movie. Yeah. but um But yeah, it's supposed to be just like a, like a nondescript kind of like, I mean, the Michael Myers mask thing is a, um,
00:53:11
Speaker
Well, that's a- In reality, it was a Captain Kirk mask that they dyed- Yeah, I was gonna say it's William Shatner. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, also there is an excellent question that is asked, trivia question of horror movies, and I got it right, where they asked the specificity of who the killer in Friday the 13th is.
00:53:39
Speaker
And she gets wrong. Yeah, she gets wrong. And ah correct. In the first movie, it was not Michael Myers. It was Michael Myers' mom. Michael Myers doesn't come to the second one and he doesn't get his mask until the third one. Jason Voorhees. Oh, sorry. Jason Voorhees. Damn it, Emma. Get it together. Now your boyfriend's getting murdered. Ah! Goodness gracious.
00:54:04
Speaker
Right. Sorry. Damn it. Sorry, Charlie. Oh, my God. I just scared myself because I looked through my creepy bedroom door. Well, and I'm like redoing a lining in one of my like fall spring jackets. And so it's on a mannequin. I turn around and I just saw this jacket on a mannequin. And yes, you know, like no mannequins in my house. Like you've got those dressmakers dummies and they are so fuck and scary. but i Have I talked about this podcast before? My grandmother's rabbit.
00:54:33
Speaker
No, I don't think you've mentioned that at all. There's this weird southern thing that apparently people did where you would get a vacuum cleaner cover where it was this like a stuffed rabbit with like a long dress, like an anthropomorphic, like like standing on two legs kind of rabbit. It didn't have legs or anything. It was like half of that, but like six feet tall, maybe five, five and a half feet tall. was like a rabbi It was like a rabbit wearing this like prairie dress and it had like a thing, it was like stuffed and it had like a thing, like ah a hole inside of it that you were supposed to slip over a vacuum cleaner
00:55:13
Speaker
What the dress would dress would go to the floor and cover the bottom of the vacuum cleaner and it would look like a six foot tall rabbit stuffed rabbit basically standing on its high legs if it's on the vacuum cleaner. And it would be like at the end of the dark hall in the shadows of my grandmother's house. but It scared the shit out of me a million times. Like coming out of the bathroom at night and turning and you just see this figure.
00:55:41
Speaker
Terrified. I remember describing that to someone. I'm like, you know those rabbits people used to put on vacuum cleaner? And not one single person has ever gone, oh yeah, that was a normal thing.
Personal Scary Experiences & Reflections
00:55:51
Speaker
No, it's not a normal thing. Who would do that? It's completely insane. um Joanne Dennis, I don't know why.
00:55:58
Speaker
Did she just make, did she make this? Like you could buy this at a store? No, I think maybe she got it at like a flea market or like a craft fair or something where somebody that she knew made it. Or maybe somebody at her church made it or something, but it was terrifying. The rabbit also had like long ears that hung down. What? It was food. No, thank you. It was very food. And you think my mannequins are scary.
00:56:25
Speaker
Again, I wouldn't have the rabbit vacuum in my house. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I would have spooked easily at night. I'm afraid of mirrors. We've definitely talked about that on the top. We've talked about mirrors. Oh, sorry. I was up late last night watching The Perfect Couple because I had to finish it and find out who the murderer was. What's The Perfect Couple? Oh, it's The Murder Mystery that's on Netflix with Nicole Kimman.
00:56:55
Speaker
Oh, okay. And, actually ties into this, Liev Schreiber. Oh, yeah. I like Liev Schreiber. He's a good actor. It's great. It's really good. The opening has gone viral, which I am very much appreciating because the song is constantly stuck in my head. Because they do this big flash mob dance at the beginning. And you're like, why? What? But then by the end... Was it set in 2010?
00:57:21
Speaker
No, it's set now. um But like by the end of the series, you're like, you know the dance and you're obsessed with it. Okay. What's the song? It's a new Meghan Trainor song called Criminal. Oh, okay. Yeah. I generally don't like her, but you know, I'm going to withhold judgment. Well, if you go on TikTok, you can learn the dance. No, thank you. There's a lot of this. And then there's your finger guns.
00:57:50
Speaker
Oh, but i'm sures I know. Right. I know. And then there's like some of this. It's great. It's really good. Yeah. ah Yeah. And apparently everyone was really upset about having to learn the stance. Um, but then they all look great doing it. Yeah. I mean, then that's, and that's something that people remember about the show. Yeah. Yeah. I think I've seen the, uh, I think I've seen the ads for it on like MTP or something. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's really good. I think it's, it's definitely worth a watch.
00:58:18
Speaker
Caitlin and I have officially started Spooktober. We have been trying to watch horror movies. I know it's only September, but we've been trying to watch horror movies every every day. but um But then she got sick, and so we didn't for a while. But we're back on it. Back on it. We saw Beatle's Beetlejuice in the theater. Is it good? ah That's on? it Yeah. It is good. Yeah. Oh, good. I would say.
00:58:41
Speaker
It is surprisingly good. It is maybe the best of these like legacy sequel things we've seen or at least the least annoying, you know? yeah yeah yeah alien rom Alien Romulus I also think is pretty good but had some really grown worthy um like callbacks to the old movies and stuff and yeah this movie mostly avoids that. I think it actually is pretty, it's pretty cute. And it's, yeah it's funny. Yeah, it's cute. Yeah. Oh, good. It's playing at our favorite movie theater where it's just us and the same old, four old ladies, uh, on Sunday, when we go on Sunday afternoons. Um, so it's, it's definitely on our list of things to go see, uh, relatively soon. Yeah. Um,
00:59:30
Speaker
Oh, what was I gonna say? Oh, Charlie and I watched a very scary movie last night. um it was it It was terrifying, but also I highly recommend it. and Have you watched Civil War?
00:59:44
Speaker
No, no, I have not. I am I got mad at the the director of that movie before it came out. oh you yeah I wasn't going to watch it out of spite. Yeah. Why would he do and one thing? he's I mean, he's British. It's Alex Garland who made X Machina and yeah. yeah um And Annihilation and yeah. Twenty eight days later and I generally like him. But he was like, yeah, there's basically um he is talking about politics in America. And like, first of all, you're British.
01:00:12
Speaker
And secondly, he's like, there's basically no difference between between right and left wing and like conservatives and liberals in in America or in England. like None of it really matters. And I'm like, dude, you clearly have never had anything to lose and do not have to have a... right Your opinion is irrelevant and fuck you and fuck your movie. And then they used a bunch of AI in the poster. They used AI art in the posters. oh yeah Turned against it for ideological reasons, but people have said it's good.
01:00:41
Speaker
It's really good. It's really good. um As we were starting it, because we initially wanted to watch Maxine, because we thought it was streaming on HBO, but not until October. on Got to pay $14 for it. I haven't watched it either. No. No. I'm going to wait till it's streaming. i um And so we ended up watching it. And as the movie starts, Charlie goes,
01:01:05
Speaker
I wonder why there aren't more movies about ah why America is terrible, how America is terrible, like or how Americans suck. Some might say many movies are about how America is terrible. I think Scream is a movie about how America is terrible. Exactly. I mean, would that happen in England?
01:01:28
Speaker
I mean, yes, yes, it would. Yeah. um Yeah. Because sorry, Charlie, as terrible as America is, England is worse. Yeah, colonization. But yes, you are.
01:01:44
Speaker
here Starmer is a piece of shit.
01:01:49
Speaker
I mean, I'm sure. Yeah, you're definitely getting some text messages from Charlie. I'm happy to debate the differences between American and and English politics. Yeah. ah But instead of doing that,
01:02:04
Speaker
It's my pick for movie triple week two. And you mentioned like two months ago that you had never seen this movie. So we will be watching The Exorcist. Oh, I'm so excited. I thought you were gonna say Fright Night and I was gonna break your little heart and say, no, sorry. I watched that the other day actually.
01:02:25
Speaker
Oh yeah, did you like it? I did, I need to rewatch it. I think that I made a mistake by watching it by myself. Oh sure, yeah. It's campy, it's fun. Yeah, it's very campy. It seems like the type of movie that would be like way more fun with someone else to laugh with. With people and like maybe a little high and stuff. The remake is good too. The remake is written by Marty Noxon who was a Buffy writer and she wrote Sharp Objects, the HBO miniseries, which is really good.
01:02:55
Speaker
And it's got David Tennant in it, right? It's David Tennant and, um oh God, it's um um Colin Farrell and Tony Collette. It's so good, yeah. Yeah, and the guy who died. Yeah. Yenton. Anton Yelkin, yeah. Yeah. Very sad. Yeah, very sad. But I'm excited to see The Exorcist. Yeah, it's um it's ah upsetting. I'm very excited.
01:03:25
Speaker
And you were raised Catholic, right? Yep. So it probably will have a little bit more resonance for you than me, for example, because I feel a lot of that is very like Catholic. Yeah. Which doesn't spook or scare me because I don't believe in any of that stuff. And but like, you know, it's still it's still very disturbing. It's a very, very disturbing movie. Yeah. I was on a screen, but it's really good.
01:03:52
Speaker
I'm going to try my best with each of these movies to spin it into how it could be a rom-com. This one's going to be hard, I think. Are you sure? I don't know. Maybe between the priests. Yeah. maybe between out Well, that might seem too obvious.
01:04:10
Speaker
Okay. All right. I believe in you. You're going to be able to find a way. not Yeah. Yeah. Uh, do you ever do this thing where you watch, um, well actually probably not because you just explained that like you weren't raised Catholic. like Sometimes when I watch exorcism things, I then get really paranoid that I'm going to get possessed.
01:04:29
Speaker
So then i ah then I have to like walk around with a cross um on my neck for a good, solid few days. really? Like sometimes, yeah. Possessions are my mirrors. Yeah, exactly. I'm worried that I'm going to get possessed. and um And then I get super paranoid about how people would see the cross and see, this is how America sucks. And we'll initially ah immediately think that I am a religious fanatic, which I am not oh sure that I take the cross off. um This is just like so
01:05:02
Speaker
Side story, um, Charlie and I had a very millennial evening on Friday and we went with a friend of mine from work, Miranda and her fiance Wayne. And we went to the local pub, the Jamison, where a Warped Tour cover band called the Warped Tour was playing. Okay. All right. And, uh, it was so much fun, but, uh, it was a lot of screaming and dancing and dumping up and down and ah and But they were singing American Idiot and they these guys seemed really cool, they seemed really chill and they dedicated it because the Jameson is in between a cigar store and a gun store and they're like, this it song is dedicated to the gun store. yeah yeah dedicated to the gun store next door and they changed the lyrics um one of the lyrics to don't want to be a part of the MAGA agenda to which i then wooed i wooed that because i was like yeah fuck Trump because it's the it's because it's the f slur in the song also yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the first time they said don't say it don't sing it people still sing it
01:06:15
Speaker
ah And then they they did the the MAGA agenda. Don't want to be hard on the MAGA agenda. And I wooed it. And then I got immediately paranoid that people would think that I wooed MAGA and would think that I was a Trump supporter. And so then I think.
01:06:33
Speaker
You can be like, I think you read the room a little bit, you know, like, yeah like yeah I like, okay. I immediately felt the immediate urge to stop the show and clarify that I was wooing.
01:06:48
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excuse me hello I just want to know want everyone to know, everyone needs to know that the wooing that was just done. It was about me.
01:06:59
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and This is about me. We all know. ah It was about me. I mean, I was like right in in front of the stage. I could have just stepped up and been like, um excuse me. I need to- And immediately tackled by security. Yeah. Yes. ah it It was great. There was like, there was a mosh pit. um you They basically have like a set list of 120 songs and they give you a QR code and you get to vote on what songs they play.
01:07:27
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Oh, okay. That's cute. Yeah, that's cute. Yeah, it was really cute. It was a lot of fun. Which tour is coming back next year? you Did you hear see this? I've heard. How is this different from the Vegas festival? When we were young, I don't know. I mean, I think it's a tour, like it's going to tour. Oh. Well, then I might have to go. and I might. Yeah. This is just what somebody at work told me. I haven't looked up. I haven't done any of my own research on this.
01:07:54
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And apparently Lincoln Park also got a new singer. There's a lot in emo news. That's right. This is emo news, emo news, emo news. Is Lincoln Park emo? I don't know if I would call Lincoln Park emo. Are you lumping new metal into emo now?
01:08:11
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Yeah, you're gonna get some text messages from Charles. ah ah like ah Actually, yeah, and you bet your bottom dollar listeners Charlie complained the entire time how there was not a single Enter Shikari song on the this from Pennsylvania on their set list. He was like, I noticed there was no Enter Shikari.
01:08:35
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I was like, that's because nobody knows what that is. And even Wayne, less this my friend's fiance, Charlie was like, he said that. And both Miranda and Wayne were like, I'm sorry, what? Who? What are you talking about? Yeah, nobody knows. All right. Should we outro? Yeah, let's outro. So that was a little side story. No, no, of course.
01:09:02
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01:09:31
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