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Dirty Dancing
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Another stone cold classic, Emma & Katie discuss this romantic masterpiece and also: peeing and pooping, Queen Elizabeth, the music of the year 2000, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, issues in women's health, how Charlie should dance with Emma more, and hey, is Johnny castle a time traveler?? #romcomprom
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Hump Day & College Nostalgia
00:00:00
Speaker
Here we go. Little hump day episode. Don't call it that. A hump day? Every, I mean, we almost always record on Wednesdays. So every episode is a hump day episode. I just like remembering that I used to celebrate a holiday called hump day. And by holiday, I mean, it was just the fact that it was Wednesday and it wasn't any, it was less sad to drink on a Wednesday than it was on a Tuesday. Is it? In college. I mean, I was drinking last night, so.
00:00:37
Speaker
it's It's different now that school days are different because you don't have school days. I do not have school days. Yeah, but you know,
00:01:11
Speaker
It made it all the hornier.
Edibles & Movie Experiences
00:01:14
Speaker
I was so excited by the time we got to the end of this movie. That helps most movies, honestly. like ah Absolutely. Especially anything that's got that has any amount of camp or or like cultural enjoyment that's outside of specifically the movie, I would say. I agree with that. I agree. um i I've watched a fair amount of some of our movies by taking one of my little baby edibles.
00:01:49
Speaker
i am The most disappointed is that I did not watch Mamma Mia on an edible. Yeah, yeah, I almost I almost never do honestly, I don't think because I um I probably won't take notes and I'll probably fall asleep if I take an edible before We watch one of these babies my little baby ones that are like baby My little baby edibles made for babies remember that one time and I was telling you how much THC was in it and you're like and Caitlin was like wait, oh That's so low
00:02:22
Speaker
Yeah, I mean like i I am a lightweight. I take like five um and that will, the rest of the night, like I am gone on five milligrams. Kaylin takes 10 regularly. well um Yeah. That's grownups. Yeah. She's a grownup as far as that goes. Yeah. I take five and I don't interact with anyone that isn't Charlie. And I just watch a movie and then I read and I go to bed.
00:02:47
Speaker
Yeah. And that's, that is my ideal edible experience. I mean, it's different when you're out in public. Like if you're out in public, it's, it's oof, like yeah one time Caitlin and I went to see this play and we were, we both took, we took edibles beforehand. We had, didn didn't realize how strong they were going to be. And I don't remember anything about this play, but at the intermission, the, some of the cast members that we knew came to talk to us and we were like,
00:03:11
Speaker
I can't talk to you. No, it was after the show. During intermission, we went to the bar and the bartender was talking to us and like we were looking at them and he was like, I can't read. like I don't know know what's happening. I don't know what he's saying. And then after the show, everybody came up and talked to us and we had nothing to say. Because you don't want to say, like I'm sorry, I got really high to come see your play. I am so high. yeah um We didn't mean to be that high, but it was... um It was an accident.
Social Anxiety & Public Restrooms
00:03:41
Speaker
It was, yeah, and it was like a campy, like, drag. It was a Charles Bush play. Oh, okay. So there was, you know, it seemed appropriate to get maybe a little high, but not as high as we got. And then we went to Cheesy's afterward. And the guy at the counter was like, I can tell you're having some fun. Like, oh, no. You know, you are very well there. Being in public is hard when you're that high. It's hard, yeah. Everybody's looking at you. Yeah.
00:04:08
Speaker
Yeah, I don't like to do it. um i yeah I get very... um my anxiety goes out the roof and I constantly think that everyone believes that I'm high and knows that I'm high and then I have to pee all the time because that's the only way that I know that I won't pee myself because in my mind that's the number one priority that I have is that I'm gonna pee myself. Interesting. interesting I've never done it. I've never done it. I don't know where this sensation came from. I just become highly
00:04:41
Speaker
aware of my bladder yeah and then am super anxious because you know that thing when you're having a conversation with someone that like you want to impress or that like you really admire and at least for me who someone with high functioning anxiety you start going through the rolodex of like what are the worst case scenario things that i could do right now i could vomit on this person i could fart i could pee myself i could shit myself i could pass out no i don't think about that at all i'm so sorry that you do i have a very vivid memory of getting notes for um the the show uh birdland and when i was having my put in and i
00:05:29
Speaker
I'm still very admiring of the director of that show, and I think that he's an absolute but fantastic director, and I really wanted to be his best friend. And the entire time- Now that I get, that I get, yeah. Yeah. But the entire time he was giving me notes, I was like, what if I just vomited right here and now? Oh my God, dude. So but like so much so that you weren't listening, or like- To where half my brain is listening and half my brain is going through the scenario, if I were to puke right now, what would I do?
00:05:59
Speaker
Okay. All right. Well, that doesn't sound that debilitating, honestly. Like it could be worse. It could be where you can't talk to people because you're obsessed with doing something wrong, but no. And anti-anxiety medication has certainly helped for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:13
Speaker
but ah But yeah, ah I guess all of my my walls come down when THC is involved and I go out into public. Cause I don't have that problem when I'm at home sitting on my couch and I'm comfortable and I'm safe and I'm in my little bubble. But when I go out and like I'm around people, I'm like, oh my God, I'm going to pee myself.
00:06:35
Speaker
I mean like, i As someone who um has to pee a lot, um I do get the ah the anxiety. of be I do have to scope out like what the the bathroom situation is. I can't be somewhere that's not going to have a bathroom because I'm going to have to pee. I have to pee about every 90 minutes, like sometimes less depending on how much. I drink a lot of water.
00:07:00
Speaker
Um So I do understand that much but it's more yeah because oh my god I driving back from columbus I barely made it like because Once you get to a certain point when you're driving into chicago, like you can't stop. There's nowhere to stop There's nowhere to stop because you're in bumper to bumper traffic. And if you get up, yeah, exactly yeah on and And then and then like you're in chicago So like I can't even go in like somewhere random because they're not going to the bathroom Yeah, um, all right. Anyway, so I yeah, I literally ran inside the house If I had had to park further away, I wouldn't have made it. Let's just say that. Man, I think everywhere should have an accessible bathroom with a door, with a door. With a door that locks, honestly. With a door that locks with no gaps and um like a nice little secluded place. I don't like, I've never liked the idea of someone here. I can't believe we're getting into this. I don't like the idea of people being able to hear me pee.
00:07:59
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, now I get it. I get very nervous and I get pee shy, as I'm sure many people do. yeah um Because I am also afraid going, I am also going through all of the like worst case scenarios. What could happen? I'm like, okay, what if I don't pee? Well, they think that I'm faking it. What if I fart? What if I shift? Well, for sure. Well, that's the thing. like I mean, and you never know when a pee is going to turn into a poop. like and Exactly. Exactly. At any point. If you're with a friend and you go to the bathroom together, there's like, that's like
00:08:31
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. It's why um all the girls in middle school would always go to the bathroom together. And I remember being like, I don't have to go and stand in the corner.
00:08:45
Speaker
But also I have IBS. It's fair. And I'm lactose intolerant. So like, the struggle is real, man. The struggle is real.
Oversharing & Societal Openness
00:08:58
Speaker
Wow, we just went right into pee-pee-poo-poo talk, like right off the bat. Well, you know, sometimes you really just have to bear your soul. Anyways, so that's a long-winded way of saying that's right, guys. To chronic over-sharers, start a podcast.
00:09:15
Speaker
But that's the thing I've sort of learned in my 30s that I really wish that I'd embraced in my teens and in my 20s is that if you're just honest about everything, you're going to find out that everybody else around you doesn't know either feels the same way you do or someone in that group feels the same way you do. Or, um you know, it's just it's going to make you feel a lot better just being honest and like talking about shit that you is like taboo and like nobody wants to talk about.
00:09:43
Speaker
I mean, for sure. I think that's true. And like, how cool would you have been if you had that much self awareness as a teenager, like you would have been the coolest person in the world. Exactly. The thing is, like, I also think that culture has changed a lot around that kind of thing. And this is for the good. I'm saying like, this is definitely better now. But like, yeah, we were so sexually repressed in the even in the early 2000s and stuff like when we were growing up pressed. And that's what I'm saying. So not even not even getting into like bodily functions and stuff. Yeah.
00:10:13
Speaker
It's it's like like farting and peeing and and and and that and we don't you didn't talk about that, at least not when I grew up. Same. Same. yeah You just didn't talk about that. And it made for a lot of really painful middle school and high school digestive years years of holding in a fart for 10 plus hours. Yeah. And everyone was doing that though. That's the thing. Everyone was doing it. But if we just talked about it and been cool about it. Yeah. um When i was in I was in, I was in a dance class once in college and um we were doing stretches and this girl like just let out this huge fart.
00:10:54
Speaker
And she was just like, no big deal. She was like, oh, sorry. And she was so cool about it. And I'm like, if that had happened, I would have killed myself.
00:11:06
Speaker
I would have died. I would have died of shame. But that's the thing is that everybody does it. And we were so repressed. Our poor millennial brains were so repressed into thinking that you're the only one that does this and it's gross. So hide everything about that. Everyone else is cool and you're terrible. What's wrong with you? Nobody else shits.
00:11:33
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yeah But like, when you think about it, even Queen Elizabeth had to take a dump every day. Oh, yeah. That's just biology. That's that I'm more interested in why that's your go to. Because I'm you can't think of anyone that's like more, um,
00:11:53
Speaker
Like, I don't wanna say saint-like, cause not saint-like, but like almost- Certainly not. No, no, no, no, but like almost like the idea of something that's so like- Classy, I suppose. Classy. Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. She was classy, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The idea of classiness, because I mean, we don't have a replacement. Name one replacement. What?
00:12:19
Speaker
Name a replacement classy lady. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Audrey Hepburn took a dump. That's right. That's good. Yeah. I i prefer Audrey Hepburn to Queen Elizabeth. Yeah. In many ways. Queen Elizabeth could not have done Roman holiday. Audrey Hepburn could have had a bunch of corgis or whatever fucking accomplishment Queen Elizabeth actually had. But Queen Elizabeth could could could have never been in Roman holiday or charade.
00:12:49
Speaker
or breakfast at Tiffany's, or wait until dark. Right? Or the, oh my god, what's it called? The blank hour, oh my god, where she plays the teacher. The children's hour. The children's hour, yeah. Such a great play, such a great play. The lesbian movie. Yeah, lesbian movie. Even though they're like, no. Elizabeth Windsor Mountbatten could have never.
00:13:16
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Little bit.
00:13:19
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I still love that little bit. I don't recognize the British monarchy on this podcast.
Dirty Dancing: Themes & Characters
00:13:26
Speaker
The British monarchy famously featured in today's film. That's right, guys. You guessed it. unless You know, class struggles definitely i do. Very true. Class struggles absolutely do. um And you guys guessed it. This is Go Get Your Girl. It's the podcast where Emma and Katie go to grown up fancy rich summer camp. And see a sexy dancing guy who's kind of an asshole, but then we have to help because we have money and he doesn't and his friend gets knocked up and we are a good person. And then we've learned to dance and learn to be ourselves and learn a lot about ourselves. Yeah. does say yeah That's right. We're talking about dirty dancing.
00:14:10
Speaker
crowdsource abortions says, yeah go get your girl. Yeah. Yes. Crowdsource abortions, ideally free abortions. Well, sure. Yeah. But in the, in the hellscape that we're living in. Yeah. Crowdfund abortions. I mean, I, which is what happens in this movie. Yes. Jerry Orbach pays for an abortion. Yes. um Unknowingly. Unwillingly. In fact, also unknowingly and unwillingly. Yes.
00:14:39
Speaker
But he he he has a positive character arc. He does have a positive, I'm so happy. I had not, so what's, jumping right into it, Katie, what is your history with Dirty Dancing? Okay, well, we're doing, did we say who we are? ah No, I'm Emma. I'm Katie, it doesn't matter.
00:14:58
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ah
00:15:01
Speaker
We're talking with dirty dancing um not a rom-com again ah but romantic and has some comedy in it, but not much. I feel like it does have several, I mean, but I wouldn't classify it as a drama.
00:15:21
Speaker
I mean, I guess so. It's not a tragedy. It's not like a Nicholas Sparks novel or something where somebody has to die, but yeah um it has a positive ending. So yes, in the Shakespeare definition, it is a comedy because it ends happily.
00:15:35
Speaker
I'm so glad we got there. That opens us up for so many more movies we can put in here. um Because Legally Bond was a comedy, but not romantic. And this movie is romantic, but not really a comedy. Yes, but in the Shakespeare definition of a comedy, if it ends in happiness and or marriage, yeah comedy.
00:15:57
Speaker
And there's dancing and songs, just like in Shakespeare comedies. This is Dirty Dancing from 1987. Stone Cold Classic. um I can't imagine someone who hasn't seen this movie, honestly, and as as an adult, at least, if you haven't seen Dirty Dancing. like I think even the are the the kids are still watching Dirty Dancing, right?
00:16:19
Speaker
I hope so. has Is Jin Z Dirty Dancing pilled? Are they Johnny Castle pilled? This movie is timeless. It is honestly timeless. It's a period piece, which helps. If it was set in the 80s, if it was very 80s, it would probably not have held up as well. Very true. I did say to Charlie, once this movie started, I was like, you know, if they made Dirty Dancing today, it would be set in 2000. 2000?
00:16:47
Speaker
Yeah, or yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because it's what, 63 and 87, yeah. It'd be sitting near 2000. I mean, that's the thing, like, 2000 was just not as iconic as 1963. I mean, what would they be doing, like pop star dances? They'd be dancing to the worst music in the world. Like, come on. It would be like a TRL, like, dance. Yeah. It's like Genie in a Bottle and that shit.
00:17:13
Speaker
Goodness gracious. I'm gonna do Billboard Hot 100, the year 2000.
00:17:23
Speaker
um Let's see, Thunderpuss 2000. I don't know what that is. ah Hot 100 singles. All right, Breathe by Faith Hill was number one at the a year end of 2000.
00:17:39
Speaker
Okay, okay. I think it ended up being a 2000 equivalent to I've Had the Time of My Life. However, oh. Well, The I've Had the Time of My Life was a 1987 song, which is weird. We'll get into that. Yeah, we'll get into that. But then we have Smooth by Santana featuring Rob Thomas, one of the worst songs ever to play on the radio. But boy, oh boy, do I remember that music video. Well, of course. It was everywhere. Maria Maria by Santana, featuring the product G&B, which I I didn't know that's who that was. I thought it was Wyclef and Maria Maria, that must be another one. I Wanna Know by Joe, which yeah I don't know what that, I would have to hear it. yeah Everything You Want by Vertical Horizon, Say My Name by Destiny's Child. That's the first like great song on that list, I would say. um I Knew I Loved You by Savage Garden.
00:18:30
Speaker
Amazed by Lone Star Bent by Matchbox 20. Which one is Bent? I don't, Bent? Yeah. Like the song? Yeah, the song Bent by Matchbox 20. I don't know that one. Like, i'd I'd know it if I heard it. Yeah, I'm sure. I would have to hear it. I know Unwell and, you know, that's because that's that album. It's the second album. Bent. I don't know what Bent is. All right. I don't know Match 2-0. Yeah, right. Matchbox 2-0. Yeah.
00:19:02
Speaker
Although to be fair, Matchbox 20 right here, it's listed as Matchbox 20, not the numbers. They spell out the word 20, maybe to combat British people from pronouncing it wrong. There you go, there you go. That's what I believe at least. And then in the next 10, you've got ah Pink, Madonna, Another Destiny's Child, oh Try Again by Aaliyah, great song, Jumpin' Jumpin' by Destiny's Child, fuckin' crazy. So yeah, there' there there's some good songs in there, but a lot of garbage.
00:19:30
Speaker
Yeah, not a lot of like um classics like um ah Hungry Eyes. Also an 80's song. Really? God damn it, Emma. So that's funny. One of my notes was that like when they transition from the 60s music to the 80s music, it's very jarring. So like, oh like I mean, Hungry Eyes is non-diegetic. So Hungry Eyes is soundtrack music where it's a it's ah um a ma over a montage. but um But the idea that the band actually plays, I've had the time of my life. Oh, and and of course, the Patrick Swayze song.
00:20:03
Speaker
She's like the wind, which is another-diegetic track, which is over a montage. But the but the it's implied that the band is playing live. I've had the time of my life, which is crazy. It's kind of like in Back to the Future, where Marty starts playing the guitar solo and he's like, that may be a little advanced for you, but your kids are going to love it. um It's like, wow, this song sounds like it's from 25 years in the future. Who's playing the synths in this band and the Catskills? Where did the synths come from? No, it's on a record. He brings a record in, he runs in, he puts the record on. oh Well, I mean, they they the band starts playing along, though, at least because when the trumpet part plays, that guy is playing the trumpet in the background. Yeah. So maybe it's a combo between the two. The synths are recorded.
00:20:49
Speaker
This isn't self-recorded. So that opens up the question, Katie. Do we believe that Johnny, Patrick Swayze's character, is a time-traveling dancer? I hope so. Yes. He time travels. From 1987. Yeah. Because he leaves and he comes back. So we have to believe that he leaves to go to 1987 and then he comes back to 1962. With the record. With the record.
00:21:14
Speaker
yeah You heard it, you're first. He's a time traveling um ah musician. He only cares about bringing music and dance into the 60s. Like the Kennedy assassination is a few months away and he doesn't care about that.
Historical Context & Character Backgrounds
00:21:29
Speaker
No, he focuses all of his energy on the Catskills. Yeah, which I mean like a noble pursuit. It does seem fun. Like, yeah, i I love summer camp so much. I would love to go to summer camp as an adult.
00:21:45
Speaker
Me too. like That was my first vote. I want to go to a bridge summer camp. So the whole like Catskill thing, it's bit basically it's called the Borscht belt for people who don't know um in from like the 20s up until it was kind of dying around because they mentioned it in the 60s. Like it's kind of becoming less popular by the by the 70s. It was mostly gone. It was these Jewish um resorts that were all over the Catskill Mountains in New York and Pennsylvania.
00:22:13
Speaker
and there were there were tons of them and all of these affluent, we should say, Jewish families ah traveled there and stayed there for weeks and weeks and months even sometimes. I mean like in Marvelous Mrs. Maisel they go for the whole summer basically, right? Yeah, yeah. And a lot of comedians and magicians and musicians and dancers and everything would do these tours and make a ton of money and a lot of really famous comedians especially started on that circuit like yeah Mel Brooks, Carl Reiner, Jerry Lewis, Estelle Getty, Phyllis Diller, Rodney Dangerfield, all of those people were what they called borscht belt comedians, meaning that they started touring in those areas and that's how they kind of started to become popular. um And we should also mention that they were they were created by ah Jewish communities because a lot of resorts wouldn't allow Jewish people to stay there. So. so Yeah.
00:23:05
Speaker
But I just, I want to go stay at their, their resorts. Their resorts look fun. Well, yeah. Yeah. I don't know if they excluded Gentiles. Yeah. I don't think they.
00:23:16
Speaker
i don't matt i don't think john I don't think Castle is a Jewish name. I don't think Johnny Castle is Jewish, necessarily, so you can at least get a job there. He was supposed to be, here's the first of Emma's Fun Emma's Fun Facts. Johnny Castle, Patrick Swayze's character in Dirty Dancing, was originally written to be um an Italian immigrant, sort of New York Italian coded character. But then they cast- Johnny Castleani. Yeah, exactly. But then they cast Patrick Swayze and they had to change everything.
00:23:46
Speaker
about it. Yeah, well, I mean like you should, as you should. As you should. When Swayze he comes in the room, you can bend the script to his will. You can put the song he wrote into the movie. Yeah. Which I have a fun fact that I don't know yeah i don't know if this is IMDB. Yeah, cool. Katie's fun facts, Katie's fun facts. It's just a little different. isn it Yeah. yeah um i But I want to know if that's this the last time I had a fun fact, if that's the same notes that you used. Probably not. Yeah, I have no idea.
00:24:14
Speaker
Um, so during the outsiders, which was Patrick Swayze's like first big movie and a lot of other people like Rob Lowe, Tom Cruise, Patrick Swayze, some other people, they were all in that movie together. Uh, Francis Ford Coppola is the outsiders. And, um, I read Rob Lowe's autobiography and he's talking about making the outsiders and he says they're in a hotel room and Patrick Swayze comes in with a guitar and he's like, I wrote the song. Do you want to hear it? And he plays them. She's like the wind.
00:24:42
Speaker
And he had tried to get like a record deal. He had tried, he had like submitted it a bunch of places. He had tried to get it in another movie. I don't know. I don't think it would have been appropriate for the outsiders, but there's another movie. I think that, that he said that he had tried to get it in. And finally years later he got it in Dirty Dancing and it became a hit.
00:25:01
Speaker
Yeah, way to go Patrick Swayze. That just goes to show don't quit on your dreams kids. Keep pushing for that a song that you annoyingly made all of your dude friends listen to. I mean, they're like, they're like kids, you know, yeah I just imagine him being the guy that won't stop playing Wonderwall at a party. But except it's his own song. Yeah.
00:25:27
Speaker
Which Kaitlyn, I should say, loves. She's like the wind. She puts it on playlists all the time. Like half as a joke, I would say. Yeah, half genuinely. I mean, it can get stuck in your head. like Oh, yeah. But it's very, it's it's so earnest and silly. like it's Yeah.
00:25:45
Speaker
It's very 80s. Yeah, I love it. I love it. Um, shall we get into the plot?
Pop Culture Impact & Personal Memories
00:25:50
Speaker
Yeah, we haven't talked about that at all. No, not at all. Just a lot of fun things about the movie. Well, it's such an iconic part of like pop culture and our lexicon. You know, like it's it's such a part of a pop culture, that there are so many fun facts and there is such like a history everyone wants to know about how this movie was made, what was going on behind the scenes, so many things were inspired by it. It inspired a movie that's not good that I thought was good for the longest time and I own on DVD. Which is? Dirty Dancing Havana Nights. That's what I thought you were gonna say, yeah.
00:26:29
Speaker
I have never seen Dirty Dancing Havana Nights. Maybe we'll do it for the pod. I don't know about that. Caitlin said it's awful when I asked her about it. It's so bad. It's like Patrick Swayzey shows up and he looks like he's 75. I can't remember if he, I cannot remember. I just remember it's Romola Gary and, um oh God, what's his name? They're both like Oscar nominees or Oscar winners. Yeah. And um in the other guys in Star Wars now,
00:27:02
Speaker
Diego Luna. Diego Luna. And Cela Wardard, yeah. Yeah, I just remember thinking it was the sexiest thing I'd ever seen. And I was like, I have to own this on DVD. I don't know who ramola remote Romola, Garai. Romola Gary. I don't know who that is. She is an amazing British actress. Yeah, she she is an amazing British actress.
00:27:33
Speaker
And yeah, Diego Luna has been in lots of stuff, yeah, but he is in ah he's in a Star War that everyone says I should watch, but I'm not going to. He's a Star War. I'm not going to watch it. Well, maybe after we watch Dirty Dancing Havana Nights, you will change your mind. No, I'm not. I'm not going to watch Andor. That's what it's called. Oh my God. Sorry. Diego Luna's so hot. My brother-in-law. Yeah, and I can just watch E2 Mama 10BN.
00:27:58
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. um And then watch a not historically accurate depiction of the Cuban Revolution. In Havana Nights? Yes. Oh, okay. Oh boy, anyways. So it's the prequel to Dirty Dancing then? Dirty Dancing, Havana Nights.
00:28:23
Speaker
Um, yeah. So the Hausmann family, uh, which is Jerry Orbach, uh, legend of stage and screen. and amazing Um, RIP. Yep. Um, Kelly Bishop, Emily Gilmore herself as the mom. mean Yeah. Uh, Tony winner for a chorus line before this. Yep. And, um, some lady, uh, who plays her sister, Lisa and Jennifer gray as, uh, Francis baby Hausmann. Yep.
00:28:54
Speaker
In a role so good and iconic, she didn't have to do anything ever since, basically. Well, it was the beginning and the end of her career. Yes. Well, I think she famously got a nose job and then people couldn't recognize her, right? That's what happened. Yeah, so she would never get hired. Yeah, yeah. Which is insane because she's Joel Gray's daughter. Yeah, yeah.
00:29:16
Speaker
Joel Grey, of course, Academy Award-winning actor from Cabaret and Tony Award-winning. I wonder if he has an Emmy or a Grammy. He's still alive, I think. Joel Grey, yeah, he just got a lifetime achievement from the Tonys. Yeah, he's been in tons of stuff. He's 92 years old, wow. Bless him. Also in a couple of episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, which is...
00:29:46
Speaker
Joel Grey, isn't it? Wait, who's Joel Grey? He owns a shop that sells like magic items, I think, and then it turns out he's a demon and he gets killed. He's evil, but you don't know he's evil first. I think he's in like two or three episodes, yeah.
00:30:04
Speaker
Okay, I've been like on this lifetime quest to get Charlie to watch Buffy the vampire Slayer my cousin and I have both drunkenly attempted and he's lasted two episodes and fallen asleep and Then we have to start all over again, and it's just like I know he's gonna love it He knows he's gonna love it. He just refuses to make the fucking commitment. It's a character flaw Charlie He's He's gonna love it. We all know it. Same with Veronica Mars. he doesn't watch veronica mars either He refuses to make the commitment any time I bring it up. And then, you know how many times I said we should watch the boys? And then he was like, nah, I don't know. No. And then his friends suggest it. And all of a sudden he's all about the boys. and That's the worst. I hate that. Yeah.
00:30:55
Speaker
Toxic masculinity. No, his friends are nice. His friends are very lovely. Well, I mean, I was, it's the same thing happened with Caitlin and Akatar. Like I was trying to get her to read Akatar and her sister started reading it and then she started reading it. I'm like, oh really? So. Oh really? So now you're in Akatar. You won't do it for me. And now she's on all of Throne of Glass, which I have not read. They're okay. Yeah. So Dirty Dancing.
Dirty Dancing's Dance & Love Story
00:31:21
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Dirty Dancing.
00:31:23
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um So we're 30 minutes in and they've arrived at the camp, which is the first. um And it's this really nice. It's like there's little cabins and stuff. And it is it's very much like, I guess it's a resort, but it's got such summer camp vibes. So I keep thinking of it as a camp. Yeah, it's a summer camp. Cause there's like activities every day. There's swimming, there's contests, there's talent shows, there's dancing lessons. It's grown up summer camp, which I would love to go to.
00:31:52
Speaker
yeah And I would, i but I would not have wanted to go with my parents when I was 19 years old, um which is how old she's supposed to be in 1963. And it, oh, this movie is written and directed by people, which I forgot to say. The movie is directed by Emil Ardolino,
00:32:13
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emile ardulino who seemed to be primarily like a dance director. He directed mostly like um live performances of dance and ballet and stuff. He also directed Sister Act.
00:32:25
Speaker
oh yeah um And the Gypsy TV movie with Bette Midler from the 90s. And then died of AIDS, sadly. i'm rolling out the head yeah And then it's written by Eleanor Bergstein.
00:32:43
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estein um who basically only wrote this. She has two other movies which have incredibly forgetful titles that no one has ever heard of called It's My Turn and Let It Be Me, um which appear to be like romantic dramas also that are yeah um very under seen. But yeah this is her, this basically this was her whole deal. This was, I mean, again, like if you write dirty dancing, you don't really have to do anything. um and And also Francis baby, what's her last name? Jennifer Grey's character. Popsnan is a semi autobiographical based on that. Oh, very much so. Yeah, I'd imagine. Yeah. So it's kind of hard to go from, Oh, well here, let me just put myself into this story to I got to make up all new characters.
00:33:37
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Yeah. That's so much work. It is. I mean, I find it much easier to write um new characters instead of trying to write autobiographically. But I mean, everybody's different. So who knows? Exactly. Everybody's different. So then get to this place. so Oh, go ahead. Oh, you forgot one important element. One very, very important element. Choreographed by Kenny Ortega. The amazing, fantastic Kenny Ortega.
00:34:02
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um famously also choreographed and direct directed Directed newsies, yeah. He directed newsies. Yeah, and Hocus And Hocus Pocus. And a bunch of other amazing things. But a huge big big choreographer in the 90s, especially. ah very Very famous director and choreographer. Yeah, so they get there and they are planning on staying three weeks, I think is how long would they say.
00:34:31
Speaker
So it's not very long, really. oh um And there's dancing lessons and Jennifer Gray, like it's, it's just honestly like at that Merengue class they're in, that would be me. That is very much like and all the dance classes I took in college. That is what I looked like in dance class. Yeah. One, two. I needed a Johnny Castle to teach me how to, um move my hips, I guess. Yeah. Johnny Castle moving hips since 1987. Yeah. And so there's, and so there's like a, there's a, there's a a divide of the camp workers. There's the people who are like Ivy league little shits who are working there for the summer, who are waiters and work with the entertainment stuff and
00:35:23
Speaker
do that kind of stuff. And then the entertainment people, the the dance instructors and the, um i get I don't know, like the other people are ah blue collar. I imagine like all the like classes and stuff, like anything like archery or tennis. Yeah, swimming and yeah swimming like they hire people that are qualified but are like blue collar. Yeah, yeah.
00:35:49
Speaker
And so those kind of there's kind of like this tension between those two groups of workers at the camp. And it's very like segregated. It seems like they don't really hang out with each other. And and the rich the the the Ivy League people are terrible. Yeah, they're dicks who don't know how to put on a condom. Yeah, which are personified by ah Bobby, who bo isn't his name Bobby?
00:36:11
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Yeah, Robbie, Robbie, Robbie, Robbie, who is the wait a waiter and a real piece of shit. He tries to give baby an Ayn Rand. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like the fountain head.
00:36:26
Speaker
got some Some people count and some people don't when he's talking about ah the woman that he got pregnant and won't pay for her abortion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then he gives her the book and he's like, yeah, make sure that I get it back because I've got notes in the margins. Yeah.
00:36:43
Speaker
which I would have taken it and thrown it in the lake or something. like i would exactly But she just pour pi pours a pitcher of water down his pants, which is also good. Yeah, awesome, very positive. um ah Also, it should be said, he is the um ivy league his Ivy League is he's at in Yale Medical School. Yeah, where you work. Where I work. Go Bulldogs.
00:37:07
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i he
00:37:12
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I wonder if I can get a T-shirt that says, did not educate the guy from Dirty Dancing. I bet they make that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Just like, it had nothing to do with that abortion, with that um that IVF podcast. Oh, right, that's right. Yeah, I forgot about that. Yeah. Also, so yeah, so there there's kind of two, plot the A-plot is the romance between ah baby whose name is baby we should say maybe and it's like it's they everybody calls her baby which is a metaphor obviously this is a coming-of-age movie and it's about you know it's set in 1963 right before the Kennedy assassination which is also pretty subtle
00:37:59
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um yeah but
00:38:05
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it's ah It's mostly about it's it's about her falling in love with Johnny Castle, the dance instructor played by Patrick Swayze. And also the kind of relationship change that you have with your parents when they realize that you're an adult. yeah That's the main plot. And the B-plot is this this woman, the ah the female main dance instructor, Penny, at the at the camp gets pregnant and has an abortion.
00:38:31
Speaker
which botched abortion, ah but yeah a botched abortion, which they all help her recover from. um And it's about like, and they they I think she does say at the beginning, like, that she's going to go into the Peace Corps, and she is, you know, a caring, and um you know, progressive politics person. yeah And so We should say that nobody ever mentions the word abortion in the movie. That's true. but It's always just hinted at. They always just say doctor appointment. Yeah. But they do preference preface the doctor appointment by saying, well, she got knocked up. They do. Yeah. I mean, they, they lead you there. you Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:10
Speaker
You can't miss what's happening in the movie, but they don't actually say the word. um We should say that abortion was illegal in New York in 1963. It became legal in New York in 1970. So this is a back alley abortion that they are paying some random man who's passing through um to give her because they don't have access to good medical care. ae Much like yeah many people in this country are back in the same boat today.
00:39:39
Speaker
Yeah, and if you ever need to, if you ever find yourself questioning, you know, whether or not um that it should be just a fundamental human right to have for women to have access to their bodies, you should listen to the part of the movie where what's his name? Patrick Swayze's cousin is describing how he could hear Penny screaming and she was conscious the entire time during this botched abortion. And it was on a fold out table with a dirty knife.
00:40:09
Speaker
Yeah. Oh boy. That was rough to get through. Yeah. And it's, you know, which is, which is a surprising, I mean, like, and ah I mean, it's, it's hard to separate because like everybody knows this movie and everybody knows this is in this movie, but like to be maybe the number one movie in 1988, I don't know, but a huge hit of 1988 was still a fairly conservative time. And to have like,
00:40:35
Speaker
ah an extremely pro-abortion subplot in that movie, Be Such a Head Across America, was still probably a big deal and during that time, much less the 60s, the time it depicts.
00:40:47
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right um So Patrick Swayze and the actress who plays Penny, whose name I didn't write down, are BFFs, which is adorable. and um They dance together all the time because they're both really good dancers, but they're not in a relationship, even though some people think that they are. Yeah, because they've got amazing chemistry. Yeah, and um again, like a man who has a platonic female best friend is a green flag. Yeah, yeah. Big green flag. He can have a non-sexual relationship with a woman. Cheers for him. But because they are close and because they are dancing together and because he tells him
00:41:29
Speaker
Um Because he lies on the sword that is yeah, he does he does someone's got um so So yeah, so baby gets her dad to give her $250 so she can pay and he doesn't she says he can't tell them what it's for And he doesn't ask because he trusts her And she gives him the money, he gives her the money and she gives the money to Penny so that she can get this abortion. Now, because she's going to miss a dance at another resort, she has to fill in for her. So Patrick Swayze has to teach her how to dance and then they spend a lot of time together and then they follow up. And there's a lot of really cute, great montages of her learning how to dance. Oh my God, yes. So many great montages. Just, yeah.
00:42:16
Speaker
Yeah, and with like with like 60 songs and like you know, there's the the classic lift thing where like they're in the in the lake and she he's like lifting her straight up and she's doing the like thing which I don't know I'm sure many of us have fantasized about and I can't imagine that I could ever do that in real life. I mean, I can't i mean like that. Well, like, right. And look at Jennifer Greg going. I mean, it is to be said, there's a famous story of um Emma Stone talking about her experience shooting crazy, stupid love when they do the lift because they reenact it. Yeah, they reenact the lift. They had to get a body double because Emma Stone couldn't do it because she had some sort of trauma and she would like spider monkey herself onto um
00:43:06
Speaker
and oh my god what's is You have to trust that person so much. Cause you're doing a running leap. Yeah. And then you have to hold your, Oh my God, it's terrifying, but it looks really fucking good when, when it's nailed. It looks amazing. Yeah. and like It is it just crazy because I don't think they liked each other either. No, I was looking into that because charlie Charlie was like, I can't wait to listen to the podcast to find out all the drama that happened behind the scenes. Because I remember ages ago, we had watched um the ah there's a Netflix docu-series on like, um how different movies got made and stuff. And they did Dirty Dancing as one of the episodes. And
00:43:48
Speaker
it wasn't that they didn't like each other it was that on their previous movie they had a lot of tension they they did not like each other and so then they started out they were in a movie together before were um i don't could not tell you what it was about but they hated each other on the Red Dawn. Oh, Red Dawn is like a communist invasion movie. god Yeah, it's very silly. Sorry, go ahead. they They hated each other on that movie. And then apparently their chemistry read was just like so fucking amazing that they got cast off of that. And then um they started the movie, things started off fine. But then they started butting heads throughout and it would it would end up to where they were literally having screaming fights before each take.
00:44:35
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to where the director had to take them aside and force them both to watch their chemistry read and be like, get this back in your brain because this is your job. And you know you you need you were able to do this once. I know you can do it again. You just need to get over your shit. um And so they did. Which doesn't read in the movie. I mean, like it does not. This movie is horny as hell. It really is.
00:45:03
Speaker
And one thing that this movie does is like it does like remind you of how sexual the 60s were and how sexual like all decades were, honestly. like like They were doing this shit. And it's like Babylon with ah the 30s. People were always fucking and doing drugs and and dirty dancing. People were always fucking. In private, at least. you know like They didn't talk about it like they do now. But it's so yeah, so what happens is like she kind of she starts hanging out with them because she carries a watermelon. Yeah. It's her meet cute with Johnny Castle as she goes, I carried a watermelon. yeah Which also was fucking huge. Charlie thought it was a marrow. I don't know what a marrow is. I think it's like a cucumber. I don't know. Some British thing.
00:45:59
Speaker
it's the but This man is carrying three of the biggest watermelons I've ever seen. like We got a watermelon last week, which was like the size of a basketball, and I struggled so much to carry it up the steps. I can't imagine carrying three watermelons three times that size. Right?
00:46:17
Speaker
um Anyway, this is before we genetically changed watermelons, I guess. Watermelon is the size of like, I don't know, a German Shepherd. Three of today's watermelons if you were to like mush them together and make one giant long poop sized watermelon. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:46:41
Speaker
a Yeah, so yeah she starts hanging out with them and that's how she finds out that ah that penny gets pregnant and so she gets the money from her dad to pay for it and gets botched and then she has to call her dad who's a doctor to come help her like I imagine stitch like a bleed or something we don't really know what happened exactly but but he he does it yes and then but he and he says who's responsible for this girl and Patrick Swayze and says I am, which yeah can be taken in a bunch of different ways. I mean, he is claiming is taking responsibility for her as a person because she's his best friend. He means, of course, who got her pregnant. And Patrick Swayze is also not wanting to implicate the actual person who got her pregnant, the shitty Robbie, who is also like flirting and and and dating his other daughter, yeah baby sister Lisa. Yeah. Which
00:47:34
Speaker
Why not? I mean, he's being noble, I guess. Yeah, but I think also at the time, there's the question of if they are found out, then he doesn't want somebody else to lose their job along with Penny. If Penny's getting fired, he's going to get fired too. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. I think Robbie deserves to lose his job. Maybe it'll teach him a lesson. Oh, Robbie absolutely does. But he can't let Penny down. He needs He's willing to like, he's so protective of her. yeah She's like his little sister. Yeah. That's what I heard. They've been friends since they were kids with the with the other guy whose name I can't remember. His cousin. Yeah, his cousin, but I can't remember his name. Yeah. i loves to He's his cousin. Yeah, yeah. im Richard Castle. He grew up to be a detective.
00:48:23
Speaker
ah or not a detective rather, mystery writer so master writer who then becomes a private investigator. Who then becomes a detective the husband.
00:48:38
Speaker
Yeah, sure. Yeah. One of my notes here is dancing is the most romantic thing ever. I mean, yeah, I wish I was better at it. um It is. um So she goes in there and they're all like, they're playing um Do You Love Me, the like 60s song, which like kind of kind of corny like Do You Love Me Now That I Can Dance and absolutely humping each other all over the... Everyone is humping each other. yeah
00:49:09
Speaker
it's ah It's pretty hot. Oh, which brings me to another one of Emma's fun Emma's fun facts. While they were filming those scenes, um they all of the extra dancers were instructed and the rule on set was that they could dry hump and like like dance hump all day long and on camera, but no one was allowed to do it.
00:49:36
Speaker
so that they kept the sexual tension. Oh, I'm sure they didn't. I'm sure that totally happened. I'm sure nobody fucks during the making of this tune. IMDB said that nobody fucks while making Dirty Dancing. I'm gonna do what's called calling shenanigans on that. I think that is categorically untrue, just because like the number of, I mean, I've never, I've
Filming Locations & Cultural Tourism
00:49:58
Speaker
been on a couple of film sets in my life, never like a long-term shoot like this,
00:50:03
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Based on the number of of of plays that I've been involved in or in, like people are fucking on that. They're definitely fucking, if you're all on location, in a- In a secluded resort in the middle of nowhere in Virginia.
00:50:22
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Living together for months and dancing, humping each other all day. Yeah, there's no way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:33
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um speaking of which i have another katie spun fact this movie was shot katie spun fact sorry this movie was shot not far from where katelyn is from really yeah uh in virginia and it's like a big tourist like thing like they sell like dirty dancing merchandise and stuff i think katelyn went one time but it's out near um uh it's out near smith mountain lake which is a place that um is very is nearby it's like near christiansburg Virginia. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I would see, I was reading that they have like Dirty Dancing themed weekends and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think she's told me about that. Which of course you would. I mean, I definitely want to go to one of those. Dirty Dancing theme weekend? Do you think Charlie would but dance with me? Well, I should hope so. Should we, should we do a live broadcast of Dirty Dancing Havana Nights from the Dirty Dancing theme?
00:51:31
Speaker
weekend well Lord knows we can't do it in Cuba um yes but only if we can dress up as baby and then dress Charlie up as Johnny Castle and yeah and then he'll be the most grumpy sad non-dancing Johnny Castle of all time does Charlie not like to dance He does at weddings with me, and anytime he dances with me at weddings, like it makes me so happy. yeah It just brings me so much joy, and it's just um so much so that what i at his brother's wedding, I had one a little bit too much to drink, and I turned to him and I go, will you dance with me? And he said, no, you're drunk. And I said, why won't you dance with me? um No, it it makes me drunk. I've been on both ends of that conversation before. yeah Yep, yep.
00:52:26
Speaker
He doesn't do it at every wedding and only at weddings. I mean, we have yet to be at a funeral where slow dancing is involved. That's true. and Unlikely. What about at the blink 182 concert you're going to later? I don't think there's going to be any ah dancing involved in that. It's just going to be i standing there doing like with his finger like that. Really? Yes. Oh, wow. The dad dance. Wow.
00:52:55
Speaker
All right, I wanna see a video of that later then. um the um Yeah, I do. i have I have a complicated relationship with dancing. I do like to dance, but I am uncoordinated just in general. So I always get self-conscious. Like I'm worried people are like watching me and making fun of me and stuff. So I- I know, I know, I know. So usually if I have like a couple of glasses of wine, I'll dance, but it's- Yeah.
00:53:26
Speaker
but it could It is the sexiest thing to me when when someone asks you
Personal Dance Anecdotes
00:53:31
Speaker
to dance. And maybe it comes from being in ballroom.
00:53:37
Speaker
This is a little um look behind Emma's brain ah chemistry as to why Emma is so obsessed with dancing and slow dancing. Because when I was in ballroom class, and um when I was 10 and 11, because everyone took- Did you do cotillion?
00:53:57
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I didn't do cotillion because this was in New Canaan, this was in Connecticut and and so they didn't have cotillion or maybe we weren't rich enough for cotillion. Cotillion is like a southern thing. It's a southern thing. My brother did cotillion because when he was like 11 we were in Houston.
00:54:14
Speaker
um so he did cotillion i did ballroom class and it was taught at the middle school and um everyone did it everyone in my at my school did it and the requirement was that you had to dress in like a dress and like heels and little white gloves and um The guys had to be in suits. We're like 11 years old. And um I was a little a little chubby, round-faced Emma, and who just desperately, I'm a Libra and I desperately have always been a romantic. And I have so many memories of being on the back wall and not being asked to dance.
00:55:00
Speaker
oh Um, that now it's sort of like in my brain of like, I feel so lucky when I, oh my God, I'm going to cry. emma I feel so lucky whenever I get asked to dance. And then I feel so hurt when Charlie says no, he doesn't want to dance with me. Um, but, um, you're talking about slow dancing.
00:55:22
Speaker
yes well like and you know i learned to foxtrot and i learned the jitterbug and i learned all of those things and i was able to help teach charlie for our first dance well i'm gonna help of another friend um but yeah it sort of ingrained in my brain of like i just feel very lucky and blessed when i get asked to uh to to couple dance yeah yeah Um, I also took ballroom dancing classes and I think, I think it was also middle school. I, um, was very nervous and did not like it. Um, and also like awkward, like I would describe my general, I mean, I'm a tall, long-limbed person and, um, like a baby deer kind of situation. Yeah.
00:56:11
Speaker
I think I've said this before, but you know, me and my both my sisters were all like six feet tall, and my dad wanted us to play basketball so badly, but all of us are so uncoordinated.
00:56:22
Speaker
If I attempt to run, I'm gonna trip over my own legs. I mean, that's the sad reality of being tall though, isn't it? Is that it is like a baby giraffe sort of situation. Yes, yes. You just don't know. There's so many limbs. You don't know what to do with them.
00:56:39
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. nots um I mean, like let's not even get heels involved. I know. I mean, if someone who's 5'2 and heels falls, they only have like, what, 5'6, 5'6 to fall? If someone like us falls, that's over six feet. That's like two stories. No. No, it's not.
00:57:09
Speaker
I don't know what kind of hobbit house has three foot ceilings, but. Someone could die. But I know what you mean. Yes, yes. I mean, I haven't like, I've never fallen on my ass like dancing before. I've not ever done that. But again, it's mostly like it's in my head. Yeah, totally in my head. i like But I do, especially at weddings.
00:57:32
Speaker
And again, like slow dancing, you can't screw up. So like at weddings and stuff where you play slow, like I'll always slow dance for sure. Yeah. Oh, like sure I mean, I was afraid to dance at like my prom and stuff. And like, Katie, we should throw a go get your girl prom and then we can fix all of our past dancing traumas. We should once we get people listening to this podcast, we should totally do that.
00:57:57
Speaker
That's what our big launch is gonna be, our hard launch. It'll be a go-get-your-girl rom-com prom. Oh my God, like a 13 going on 30? Oh. Yes, rom-com prom. Rom Rom-com prom. And we'll rent out the Drake or whatever we can afford. Yes, that or something we can afford. That's what it'll be. It'll be the world famous Drake Hotel in Chicago or a place that we can afford. Whatever we can afford.
00:58:31
Speaker
Amazing. And it's going to be great. And we're going to fix all of our past traumas. Yeah, that sounds great. Like five year goal, rom-com-prom. Five year goal, rom-com-prom. Rom-com-prom. Yeah, so then, so she dances at the other club and then um they kind of like- But she does do the lift. They don't do the lift. She can't do it. She instead does like a weird thumb, she like freaks out right before and then she has a weird thumb dance. The lift is a metaphor for her trusting. Has not done a weird thumb dance instead of something they're supposed to do. All the time, yeah all the time.
00:59:09
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um But that's fine, she still did a good job and nobody like noticed really.
Class Dynamics & Relationship Tensions
00:59:14
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And um and then then she starts to get closer with Johnny, even though her dad is super mad because she thinks that he thinks that he you know knocked this girl up, which like is such a not a good expression, but that's what they say in the movie. yeah um I do appreciate the fact that they don't, that they give Jerry Orbach a like reasonable reason to hate Johnny, which is a misunderstanding and a miscommunication. Oh, for sure, yeah. Misunderstanding, misunderstanding, misunderstanding. I'll alert. um There it was.
00:59:46
Speaker
There it is. And, and not just he doesn't like Johnny because he's four, because Jerry Orbach is so lovely and wonderful. And he's El Gallo from the Fantasticks. And I love him. And whom year and um law and order. Yeah. And many, many other things. He is. um Yeah. And that's the thing. Like he is he's, they are written to be like,
01:00:15
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good parents, both of them. yeah um Although he is, you know, older and has some things to learn about his daughters, especially. Yes. um Because like they they do, they they have such a close relationship and she is like, and she tells him, she's like, yeah, so you know, I lied to you, but you lied to me too, because you taught me this worldview that isn't real. And you sheltered me so much that I didn't understand how these class systems work and where I am in that class system and how people are going to view me without um without knowing me and how other people are other people are not treated the same way that we're treated because of yeah the money that we have and the um the race that we are. yeah so it's
01:01:00
Speaker
it's It's kind of complicated, honestly, in ah in a good way. um And so, yes, they sleep together, ah her and Johnny. Sexiest sex scene of all time, baby. Yeah, it's really good. Oh, it's so good.
01:01:15
Speaker
ah um and like a feel like And they have like a relationship that starts at the at the camp, and and they're goingnna um do he's do a new dance at ah the end of the of the camp.
01:01:29
Speaker
And so he has to decide whether he's going to do some stupid thing that the son of the guy who owns the camp wants him to do, or if he's going to do something original. And she's giving him shit for that. And he's like, you know, you don't take a chance either. You don't talk to your dad. You don't know, honest with your dad. And then they both do that. And it's nice.
01:01:47
Speaker
Yeah, and it's nice. Oh, oh, Jerry Urbach discovers on his own that Robbie is the one responsible for knocking up Penny and not paying for her abortion, even though he's in Yale Medical School, gonna be a doctor. And also he's been courting his other daughter. And that was like a whole bit of tension is that there's one scene that um that Baby and Johnny are, they like duck behind this, this bridge because they see her dad and her sister and Robbie. And as they're coming out, Jorba puts his arm around Robbie and like calls him son and like is very like nice to him and welcoming and just like sweet. And her sister is being obnoxious and being like, tell me about politics, blah, blah, blah.
01:02:40
Speaker
ah Um, trying to be like a favorite. Her sister's so stupid. Her sister's so fucking stupid. It is so funny. It's so funny. The hula song? Oh my god. Yes, it's so bad. It's so funny. Um, but you know, she is the comedy that makes this rom-com.
01:03:00
Speaker
And she tells Jennifer Grish, she's like, I'm going to sleep with him. And she's like, I wish you wouldn't do that. Like, I can't tell you why, but don't sleep with Robbie constantly. She is well, she gives her several warnings about Robbie. She's like, don't, don't, don't Robbie, don't Robbie, don't Robbie and her sister and like after you would think after the first date that her sister and Robbie go on because you just see the tail end of it where she her sister's walking away upset putting her sweater back on. You're led to believe that Robbie has gone too far in like a make out session. yeah And wouldn't take no for an answer. And didn't go all the way but like definitely went further
01:03:44
Speaker
and like there were several no's involved before he stopped. And that's why she's storming away. Why does she continue to see him? because that's what happens in those kind of relationships, especially in this, I mean, today still, but especially in the sixties where, you know, some of these, these women are, are under educated about like even how sex works, um yeah much less like, you know, have self esteem or the ability to, you know, tell somebody what they want or or who they are. Um,
01:04:20
Speaker
that that happened to so many people where, yeah, first date, um he tries to push things too far and she says no and she gets mad, but then by the next date, like it's become... Normalized. Normalized, yeah, yeah.
Societal Pressures & Misunderstandings
01:04:35
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Yeah. And then you get pregnant and married and you're miserable for 15 years until you get a divorce. And then you hate each other, or you don't get a divorce and you die hating each other. Yeah, that too. Yeah, yeah.
01:04:49
Speaker
so many such cases yeah yeah um but before the big dance number at the end we do have sort of the thing that happens that is what gets robbie fired which is there is this like i would call it an f plot
01:05:07
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of of the is the wife of um not the owner but like this other guy. It's an older couple who have have been coming there for a while I think is who they are. the I don't remember what their last name is but somebody's somebody wallet is missing and other yeah lots of people's wallets have been missing and somebody is stealing their wallet so of course The main suspect is the poor people, right? The main suspect is Johnny. And Jennifer Gray has to tell her dad, like, no, it wasn't him because I was at his cabin all night. So he couldn't have done that. We were fucking.
01:05:42
Speaker
But I think, well, you're led to believe that the blame is placed on him because sexy lady who is wife of someone else on his hands sees Jennifer Grey leaving Johnny's cabin. And she had hit on Johnny earlier and Johnny turned her down. yeah So she had to settle for like creepy Robbie. And um as she's leaving the cabin, she sees it. And so to get back at Jennifer Grey and Johnny, she she's the one that places the blame.
01:06:10
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and yeah places that idea into people's heads. Also, when Lisa goes to see Robbie, to like give him her flower. Yeah, she sees him like fucking that woman like the wife of the yeah. Yep, yep, yep. And that's how she finds out about Robbie. And then I don't know, does she tell her dad like Jerry Orbach just kind of puts it together on his own. I mean, he is a a great detective, as we know later. Yes, a law and order. Well, because Robby tells him, flat out tells him, he, Robby is under the impression because it, through the grapevine, it has been told that Jerry Orbach had to fix this botched abortion and that baby had to get Jerry Orbach. Oh, I think I missed something. I may have looked at my phone for a second and missed this. Sorry.
01:07:00
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Robbie makes this declaration right before the big dance. And as Durobot goes to give him money for to help with medical school, like a big old check, and he goes, thanks, thanks, Mr. Houseman.
01:07:14
Speaker
Thanks, Mr. Houseman. Oh, also, thanks for that whole help with that penny situation. You know, and he starts going off on that. And then he clocks your box like frozen face and he goes, Oh, I thought baby told you, you know, and says some more inappropriate shit about knocking up a chick and not feeling responsible to which you're a buck.
01:07:36
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wonderfully so takes back the check and basically in a bunch of other words tells Rob to go fuck himself. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Iconic Dance Finale
01:07:47
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So that's what happened. And then we get our big dance.
01:07:51
Speaker
Yeah, so, ah but either way, Johnny's fired. um yeah And he said, as they told him if he doesn't make a scene, he'll get his summer bonus still. And so he's leaving and baby is miserable at, and she's in the corner yeah andy the corner of the, um of the the place there with her mom and her dad and her sister, who her mom also like, Kelly Bish was barely in this movie. I know.
01:08:18
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she She's though. She's great, but like she she's such a 1960s, whatever you say, honey. like yeah she's After he gets home from like helping Penny, she's like, everything okay? He's like, go back to bed. She's like, okay. Okay. And then she's golfing. She's like, I just don't understand why the falls won't go in.
01:08:37
Speaker
Yeah, but then like she gets like she gets a moment too because when when Johnny Castle like Runs in to the to the the play that they're singing the worst song in the world. It's like the camp thing where they're all like Yeah,
01:08:57
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um he comes in and I was like, okay cut this shit I'm gonna do a dance and I guess he gives them a record and then Jerry Orbach is like well I won't stand for this and Kelly bitches like sit down, honey and Yeah. So she does finally like. Queen. um Put her foot down there and and then he he gets ah Jennifer Grey up there and they do ah they do a big dance and everybody joins in and it's. Have the time of my life.
01:09:26
Speaker
which won the Oscar for best song as a classic song. there's There's not a lot of lyrics in the song. It's basically just that over and over. But it's a vibe and everybody loves it. And um they they dance and they do the big lift. And in the end, get out. You don't need to ask any questions. How this relationship gonna work out? Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. You're in the parking lot.
01:09:54
Speaker
with a smile on your face. Don't ask questions. Don't think about how. She going to college? Is she going to stay? with doesn Are they ever going to see each other again?
01:10:11
Speaker
I don't know. No, doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah. Um, but sort of that's that's the one thing that I really did appreciate about this film was that they there is that scene as Johnny is leaving where they don't try to pretend that their relationship is anything more than what it actually is. Um, like, they're just like, well, I guess I'll see you when I see ya. Yeah, I mean, they don't like I don't even I don't think she tells him she loves him or anything. No, like, they don't say I love you. Yeah.
01:10:40
Speaker
But they do it through dance, Katie. Well, of course. say You can say many things through dance that you can't say through words. Yeah. She says that she trusts him by doing the lift. Here's a fun Charlie's Corner. A few things Charlie misunderstood about the movie. Have you seen the movie before? No, this is his first time. Wow.
01:11:01
Speaker
Several of these movies, that's that's one of the reasons why Charlie's Corner is always so fun. I mean, yet Dirty Dancing is like the ultimate chick flick though. Dirty Dancing is like such a like cliche, your boyfriend broke up with you, you get a pint of Ben & Jerry's and watch Dirty Dancing with Big Fuzzy Socks movie. Fucking love Dirty Dancing. And it's criminally under seen by men in general, I think. Yes. I mean, if more men saw Dirty Dancing, maybe we would have more opportunities to dance.
01:11:31
Speaker
Yeah, I was gonna say less war, but that too, yeah. More dance, less war. Hell yeah. um But so Charlie at first was like,
01:11:47
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he He knows the the you know the line, nobody puts baby in the corner. And so the entire movie, he's waiting for that one line. And when the line comes, he he goes, oh, well, that's not what I thought it was gonna be. And I was like, what do you mean that's not what you thought it was gonna be?
01:12:03
Speaker
And he's like interrupting this amazing dance scene. I'm just like, stop talking. This is amazing. um But I do also need to know this. um He thought the way he first words it is he's just like, I thought that she was going to be like physically backed into a corner and like have to fight her way out of a corner. And I was like, what? A lot of fighting in this movie. What?
01:12:30
Speaker
No. The Patrick Swayze does punch Robbie in the face, which is cathartic. That's true, which is great. um And then later he rephrases after the movie's finished, he goes, okay, I said that wrong. Not physically put in a corner, but I thought baby was gonna be in a situation that he felt cornered. And I was like, that's a better way of saying that because yeah what what movie were you watching where you thought baby would have to fight her way out of a corner?
01:12:59
Speaker
What goes on? in that boy's brain. He also was very upset because it was not historically accurate. Because as he will learn from this podcast, at the time he only knew one song was not from the 60s. And he was very offended. Oh, okay. Well.
01:13:19
Speaker
um Yeah, there's three two of them are are soundtrack songs, but one of them is played in the movie, which is confusing when you think about it, but yes also, who cares? Who cares? They're great songs. Who cares? They're great. I did want to shout out um the song. Oh, what's it called? It's called Love is Strange by Mickey and Sylvia, which is, like for my money, the most iconic scene in this whole movie. Oh, baby.
01:13:47
Speaker
yeah yeah yeah yeah where they're where they're lip-syncing like when you call your love a boy how do you call him like that is what lives in my brain when i think of this movie that is the that's the scene that that comes to mind like yeah them like playing with each other and like it's just that's so It's so sweet and so romantic. It's so sweet and so swoon-worthy. And I love the fact that Patrick Swayze brings it back during the finale because he starts lip-syncing to I've Had the Time of My Life. Because that's their thing. That's their thing. But that's also what people do when they're dancing. If you're dancing with somebody and you're locking eyes with them, and especially if you're in a relationship with them or in love with them, you sing the song to each other. I always have at least.
01:14:34
Speaker
well good for you i'll tell you someone who who has not done that and his name rhymes with marley oh god secret vendetta that are the secret it sounds like you need a gay best friend am i to dance with you right i need to report ever it for your julia roberts at my best friend's wedding
01:15:01
Speaker
I secretly am planting all of these clues to Charlie in this podcast so that he will know what Emma thinks is romantic. It's very subtle. um It's so subtle. The clues that you're planting aren't outright declarations and complaints at all. They're not. They're on the level of Taylor Swift Easter eggs. You can do some math for this.
01:15:29
Speaker
um Yeah, it's ah it's a great movie. um it's so It's so fun. it's so It's so romantic. It's definitely something ah you can watch after a breakup with ice cream and and big fuzzy socks. Oh, for sure. Or I was actually saying this movie is a lot of things. So it's it's you know a breakup movie. it is a I'm in a new relationship. I'm getting movie. It is a summer movie. It is a Father's Day movie. Yeah, yeah. It's a National Dance Day movie.
01:15:59
Speaker
National Dance Day. When is National Dance Day? There's got to be a National Dance Day, right? There's a National Everything Day. There's a National Ice Cream Day. It's International Boxen Day or something today, I'm sure. National Dance Day. Here we go. National Dance Day is Saturday, September 21st, 2024. Oh, the 21st of September. National Dance Day. So it's not happened yet.
01:16:27
Speaker
So you heard it here first, guys. you go listen Go watch Dirty Dancing on National Dance Day. um Any other thoughts, feelings, and opinions on Dirty Dancing? No, I think that's it, yeah. Yeah, same. So what are we doing next week, Katie?
01:16:44
Speaker
Next week, we are going to be doing a movie which um is called What If, but was actually called The F Word, and then they made them change the title after it had already been released, I think, in some markets.
Movie Title Changes & Admiration for Daniel Radcliffe
01:16:58
Speaker
Because there's posters and everything. The posters all say the F Word, but they changed it to What If, which is a dumbass title, yeah um with Daniel Radcliffe and Zoe Kazan. I fucking love Daniel Radcliffe so much. I'm so excited. And I realize we just did a Daniel Radcliffe movie, but this is different.
01:17:13
Speaker
This is different. This is Daniel Radcliffe, not as the villain. Yeah, this is sweetheart Daniel Radcliffe. I'm not a weird little freak, Daniel Radcliffe. Very distinct difference. Yeah. Amazing. I'm so excited. Yay.
Podcast Promotion & Credits
01:17:26
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