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The Lost City (of D)
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It's Rom Com Adventure time! Join Emma and Katie as they dive into the Sandy Bullock/Channing Tatum/ Daniel Radcliffe masterpiece that is the Lost City (of D). Tune in as they chat the Lost City of Z, Romancing the Stone and of course their favorite: Romance Novels!!
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Car Troubles and New Beginnings
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um i mean it's
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You were about to tell me a story and Reasonable go car, seems like a good car. Yep. We got a great deal on her in 2021 when rates were real low. and She did us well, but she was 10 years old, and 10 years is a long time for a Hyundai.
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And so she constantly, we had to take her in. And she was at the point in her life where she basically needed a lot of cosmetic surgery. Well, not cosmetic surgery, but a lot of- Same girl. Yeah. Yeah, right. She needed a lot of replacements. And it got to be expensive. And our warranty expired. And so we took her in thinking that it was going to be this one problem that was like a really cheap fix, or least like a couple hundred bucks. That's not necessarily cheap. but It's cheap in terms of car of car yeah and ter in terms of car stuff. It was her transmission that was shot. And they're like, Yeah, you're gonna need a new one. And there's only one car in the US right now that we could get a transmission for this car for. And that's going to be $8,000. We're like, do what?
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I mean, a transmission is like the whole car. I mean, that happened to my last car too. It's sort of doing that thing where it wouldn't go out of second gear. So I'd be on the interstate going like 35 miles an hour in second gear with the flashers flashing. Like just apologizing to people as they go super- I'm so sorry! Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's how it felt, like it felt because especially like everything in Connecticut is on hills, and she didn't like to go up hills. And so it felt like I was literally willing her on the highway to like go to the speed limit. And it was stressful. It was stressful. And so finally, because we went to Mystic on a day trip.
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ah few weeks ago and that's when I was just like this is really stressful and I have like a gig coming me up and in in the winter where I'm gonna have to drive like an hour for rehearsals and for the gig you got it you got a gig oh yeah I got a gig um so for if you're in Connecticut you should book your tickets because it sells out really fast it's the um Essex steam train polar express um a It's an old school train and it's a little experience and we create our own characters and it's going to be a lot of fun.
Celebrity Train Rentals and Car Naming
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um and it Yeah, it sells out like within two hours. It's like the most popular Christmas activity in Connecticut. Apparently one year, two years ago, Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds rented out an entire car for them and their friends and their kids. So do that again Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds and choose my car.
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So you can become friends with Blake Lively. no Exactly. And then be like, sup, girl. um You know, I feel like we've got a lot of similar interests, right? um We should just hang out with all of your friends. Who are your best friends? Yeah. um And she'll go, oh, I don't know. I think they're busy. I think they're on tour. And I'll be like, that's fine. We can go there. We can go to tour. To tour? um Do you need a plus? Your plan of getting tickets to Aeris tour? to befriend Blake Lively. I feel like there's got to be an easier way. I don't know. That seems like my direct path line to Harris tickets. Live your dream. Yeah, live the dream. But yeah, so the transition was shot. And so Charlie and I were like, we have to get a new car.
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So we went car shopping all in the third. We did it all in one day. It took literally all day. And we went to a few dealerships. um we got And we ended up with a Toyota Corolla. Brand new, 2024. She's got all the bells and whistles, which is nice. She is a dream to drive. I'm so glad that we got her because and now my 30-minute commutes don't feel like forever because I am riding in the lap of luxury. it going faster than 35 miles an hour? Because I'm going faster than 35 miles per hour. And she's got all the safety features. So like if I start to like go outside the lines, she'll jerk me back into the middle of the lane. And I'm like, oh my god, thanks. I've named her Kylie.
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Um, I, for a few reasons, I don't know if Charlie's completely on board with the name, uh, but I sort of weaseled my way into that one because our niece, we were talking to our niece who is my best friend and I love her so much. She's 10. Her name is, um, Rosalie and she's the best. And Rosalie, we asked her, Rosalie, what should we name the car? And she goes, well, what does Auntie Emma want to call it? And I went, Auntie Emma wants to name it Kylie.
Naming Origins and Movie Recommendations
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And she goes, then Kylie, it's Kylie. I was like, yeah, girl. It's women supporting women. Yeah, women supporting women. Kylie after Kylie Minogue, after Kylie Jenner. That's what you would think. After Kylie Minogue, I feel would be not Kylie Jenner. Absolutely not Kylie Jenner. Well, I wouldn't think it would be Kylie Jenner. It's Kylie because she's a lady. But I wanted to name her after our friend, Kyle.
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Because she feels like a Kyle. Sure. But like I need an E at the end like Betty or so like Kylie. So it's really after our friend Kyle. Shout out to Kyle. Do you ever feel listening to it you ever call Kyle, Kylie? No, but I will now. Yeah. I'm going to call next time. He doesn't like that. That's sexist. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That's sexist. And he should be canceled. No, you're not canceled, Kyle. Please don't uninvite me from your wedding.
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He's probably not listening to this. Right. I texted his fiance, who's a friend of mine. And I was just like, um we just got a new car. And I want to name it Kyle. And Charlie says no. And so her response was Boo Charles. So I went and I doubled down. Why doesn't Charles like it? Exactly. He was like, well, we were saving that for our next pet. And I was just like, I don't know. This car feels like a car. Because you do your pets after your male friends, to be fair. Not just our male friends after Charlie's friends.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, is Kyle ah um an alum of the of British High School? Yeah, of King Edwards. Yeah. He's a King Edward. Kyle doesn't sound like... Kyle doesn't sound like a British. Right? Kyle. Kyle. She's very American. Yeah. Yeah. Kyle. Kyle. They keep saying it. Uh-huh. Makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. It is like the most American name. He was born in South Africa. that Okay. Is that more of a South African name? I don't know. i only I had a friend in high school who was from South Africa, and his name was Carl. South Africa. South Africa. South Africa. That sounds like New Zealand, an Australian. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, we watched the most stressful Australian thriller the other night. If you want to watch a horror movie, that you will feel a lot of feelings and stress throughout the 90 minutes.
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as I do many times. Yeah. I mean, like, I guess it's good. It's hard for me to call it good because it does involve a lot of like really dark things. It's a very dark film. um And I find it weird being like, yeah, it was so good and as I watched people. I get that. Yeah, for sure. It's called The
80s Horror Nostalgia and Movie Games
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Killing Ground. It's from 2016. And it's about a couple that goes on a camping trip and stuff happens. Sure, as it does. You've been watching a lot of harm movies recently. I've noticed on your letterboxed, you're having a real summer spooks, yeah.
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Mostly because Madison ruined summer movie watching for me. Now, anytime it gets hot, I have the urge to watch a terrible 80s slasher. Okay, yeah. Because of our summer spooks nights. And we've been working our way through the Friday the 13th. We watched Friday the 13th part three, which I don't know if you've seen that one. It was filmed for 3D audiences. 3D, yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I am. There's a solid 20 seconds of yo-yoing.
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i have not I don't think I've seen that one specifically. i have not seen i'm I'm a little under watched on the Friday of the 13th. I've seen all of the Nightmare on Elm Streets. But um I have watched the four hour documentary um Crystal Lake Memories, I think is what it's called, which is like where they go through all of it and they talk to a bunch of the actors and stuff. it's there's There's one on Nightmare on Elm Street, which is which is better, a better documentary just because it's a better movie series, I think. Yeah. And there's there's more like more like better interviews and stuff in that one. That's called Never Sleep Again, which is great, which I would definitely recommend if you want to watch a four and a half hour documentary about um the Nightmare on Elm Street movies. I mean, I just like do.
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Yeah, Crystal Lake Memories, is all i've watched all I've also watched that, so i've I've seen a lot of the stuff from from all of the the Jason movies, even if I haven't seen all of them. um Yeah, I should watch that. I've seen the first two several times, and I don't know if I've seen any of the other Friday the 13th movies. I'm kind of excited for whenever things start getting off the rails. They started getting off the rails but with three. So three is where you get in the lore of Jason's costume. Like this is where Jason's costume is solidified with the hockey mask. Right. Because he doesn't have the hockey mask in one or two. He doesn't have that. In one he's not even in it. Yeah. And in the second one he has a bag over his head. Exactly. The third one is where he gets the hockey mask and not until halfway through the movie. Not until he tells someone who was wearing the hockey mask.
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The third one also, they
Rom-Com Comparisons and Shared Experiences
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take lots of moments for the 3D effects, which is just so fun. There's barely a plot to it. Very 80s. Barely a plot. And you get just a random motorcycle gang. Isn't it just a random motorcycle? And by a motorcycle gang, I mean three people. mostly two of them being people of color because it was the eighties. And um yeah, they get killed real fast. I would imagine. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they shouldn't have had sex. That's that's the rule in those movies, right? If you have sex, I think that it was just because they were in a motorcycle gang like they were. They're also threatening the camp then.
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With a loud motorcycle. i among them I know, right? And the they come back to like get revenge on them because this nerd guy runs over their motorcycle because they were like rude to him. I don't know. It's very confusing. There's no plot. There's a lot of 3D shots. Yeah. I imagine most of it is about um the nudity and the violence. Yeah. But there's only two nipples. We only got two nipple counts. Oh wow, yeah. Studio listeners, I don't know if we've actually mentioned this on the show before or not. We have a running ah running bit when we watch horror movies, especially from the 80s. There's a there a nipple count. So we used to all, yeah like a bunch of us, like maybe 10 or 11 people at the most some of those times. At our friend Madison's house watching horror movies in the summer and we would make bets on how many nipples we thought would show up in the movie.
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um And so one dedicated friend would ah keep track of the nipples ah in her notebook as we went. And whoever got closest won. Didn't win anything, just just the prize. Nothing. Just the pride of being the nipple counter. Yeah. um You shouldn't have that for things among friends. It was for good fun, and it was a way for us to interact with the film. I like to wager for a kiss on the mouth. That's my favorite. Yeah, that's true. I mean, should we have something for rom-coms? Since we watched so many of them. Things that we're counting. There's very few nipples in rom-coms. I mean, sometimes. I don't think it should be a nipple. I think out of all of the episodes, I think we've only seen nipples or or women's nipples. Because we are. We're talking about women's nipples, obviously. Because men's nipples are all over the place. Yeah.
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Sexism. Exactly. Well, also, we're talking about 80s slasher movies generally, which have a lot of know our eighty s nudity. calm in Our 80s rom-com Wild Thing had probably the most nipples. Something wild. Yeah, something wild, sorry. something something I forgot about that, actually. I mean, yeah. um Anyone but you and Something Wild, I think, are the only ones that have nudity in them. Yeah,
Podcast Feature: 'Go Get Your Girl'
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because I need anyone but you also has hog, which is like worth a dozen aggressive hog. Yeah, very aggressive hog. We did not need the hog. They could have cut a hog out. And again, when we we say hog, we mean a close up of a man's pee hole. Full frontal pee hole is what we're talking about. Yes. Thank you for being scientific. You're re throw.
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Anyways, Urethra is famously featured in today's film. um That's right, guys. You guessed it. This is Go Get Your Girl, the podcast where Emma and Katie write a romance novel and then are slightly annoyed with their cover model. But like, maybe they get kidnapped and he comes to our rescue even though he's a himbo. That's right. We're talking about the Lost City. I'm Emma. And I'm Katie.
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And to my undying annoyance, this movie was called The lot Velocity of D, to the point where they made posters that said The Velocity of D, and it got changed at the absolute last minute. um Why? Obviously, there's a very famous book and movie called The Velocity of Z, or The Velocity of Zed, if you're British and wrong, um about which is nonfiction is a true story about this archeological mission to find this lost city. And I believe it's in South America. I'm going to be honest. I haven't read or seen it, um but I hear it's very good. Brad Pitt in that movie. I don't know. It's a Sons of Anarchy boy, isn't it? Oh, Charles. He's Brad Pitt. Charlie Hunnam is in it.
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And it stars Charlie Hunnam, Robert Pattinson, Sienna Miller, and Tom Holland. Oh, so Brad Pitt's not in it. Tom Holland plays Charlie Hunnam's son? Wait, what? That can't be right. Maybe it's maybe it's later. Maybe it's like, maybe it's it's years later he played. I don't know. Again, I haven't seen as it or read it. Yeah, but I know that it's the book is considered very good and the movie is considered very good, but it was not very successful anyway. So that's a pun on the last city of Z. um But of course, the D stands for dick, dick. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah,
Movie Comparisons: 'The Lost City' vs. 'Romancing the Stone'
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2022, the last city of D, which was.
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We're just gonna call it that. Yeah, which was directed by the Knee brothers, Aaron and Adam Knee, who made a movie called The Band of Robbers, which apparently is good, but I haven't seen, it's a comedy. Haven't seen it. And written by them and Dana Fox, who wrote How to Be Single, and Oren Visiel, who wrote Mortal Kombat and Escape Room. Huh, that's an interesting choice. a rom-com writer and a horror movie slash action movie writer wrote this together, which is it is an action rom-com. Yeah. In the tradition of romancing the stone. It's very explicitly a riff on romancing the stone. Yeah, which when I was a kid, my parents loved romancing the stone and they make references to it all the time. And it was like one of those movies that was like, you'll watch this movie when you're older because it's rated R, I think. And
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You know, but we love this movie because it came out in like the 80s or what it came out before it came out before I was born, I think. And but they were book in the 90s. As you've said, as you said in the last episode, yeah, which doesn't make any sense to me because didn't make any sense to me French about it. Yeah. Um, but, uh, which is Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner and Danny DeVito. And it was a huge hit as Robert Zemeckis movie, um, who made back to the future and the polar express and a bunch of, uh, terrible movies, honestly, uh, pretty much since the eighties. I think all of Robert Zemeckis movies is pretty bad. I like back to the future. I like who framed Roger Rabbit.
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And, but i we I rewatched Romancing the Stone a couple of years ago. Cause I had seen, I saw it in high school probably and like rented it. And I think, you know, my parents wanted me to watch it or something. And I remember liking it, but I watched it recently and it is pretty boring ah for me. And like, again I love rom coms, but it's like, Caitlin and I were watching it and Caitlin's like, it's like watching your parents like make out. And I think that's part of it. It was very like, It's so specific to its time. And so, and they're, I don't know, like, I got, Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner were sex symbols at the time, but I don't see or get it um as much as I appreciated the voice woman. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know. um I just, yeah, it's- You didn't even know them as older?
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Yeah, maybe that's it. I don't know. There's just something weird about it. But that scene, there's a scene in this movie where theyre where they dance um outside the inn, like outside and the band is playing. That's and ah an exact echo of romancing the stone. It's pretty much this the same scene um within dancing together in a moment of peace after like a big action set piece. Yeah. But it was a hugely popular movie and every and lots of people love it. And this movie is very, intentionally kind of a throwback to Romancing with Stone because that movie is about a romance book author who get is like in over her head and gets like you know swept along this adventure, although she's a little bit more capable than Sandra Bullock is in this movie.
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I mean, to be fair, Sandra Bullock was in a sparkly jumpsuit and heels for most of the movie. Well, I guess she's a she's a little less reluctant than Sandy Bullock is in this movie. i guess Oh, okay. I was gonna say things are hard when you're in a sparkle jumpsuit. That's on loan. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that she's trying not to screw up and like exactly the the highest heels like she oh like ah the highest heels. I do appreciate that they make reference to it because a lot of movies will do that and just not make reference to it at all. Oh, for sure. Jurassic World or whatever. when Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bryce Dallas Howard is wearing the Louboutins throughout the whole thing. Yeah. It's just like you would put sneakers on, right? If you were running away from dinosaurs. Or barefoot. Running away from dinosaurs. like You should take the shoes off. like If you're going to take the shoes off to walk from the-
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to walk from the Uber to your apartment, you can take him off to run from a dinosaur.
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um I did really love that scene where Alan comes to rescue her. And he's just like, I brought you some boots because i I knew that you wouldn't want to be in heels all day. And he can hands her the boots and she goes, well, these aren't really they're like a chunky heel boot. yeah These aren't really that practical either. Yeah. But they are better than the broken pumps at that point that she has. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And they go better with her second outfit, in my opinion. Yeah. OK. Yeah. Let's back up. ah What is this movie about? This movie is about a romance author who is sort of like a recluse. You find out that her husband has died about a year ago, I want to say.
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ah who was and um who was an anthropologist yeah and studied ancient people. He was like a serious academic and she started out as a serious academic and then transitioned into writing romance novels, yeah. Exactly. And so she is about to release her next novel, which in her mind is gonna be the last one of this series. And we actually, we open on like a trick opening, which is a, what would you call it? It's a- It's a- It's a construction in her head. Depiction. It's in media- Yeah, construct- It's in media res. She's writing the last chapter. Like there's- Yeah.
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Yeah, there's there's an action scene and it's very Indiana Jones. Like she and Channing Tatum are, you know, held hostage by a villain and in a pit with snakes outside of a temple. And then she's like delete, delete, delete, delete. Yeah, and she's like, how as a writer, I can tell you is exactly how I write. I just imagine myself and Channing Tatum yeah
Casting Insights and Character Discussions
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and and whatever we're having. But I mean, like, I guess that there is a certain level. I mean, I read a lot of romance novels and a lot of romance novels are what the um they're they're self and a lot of them are self insert like a lot of them are
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this is This is me. this This character is based on me. And I've never really written that way, but a lot of people, especially I think in the romance ah genre, do. And that is very specifically why this what she does. like The character is an avatar for herself. yeah Exactly. And so she is finishing up her final novel. She's about to do a book release and a um launch a book tour. And then we get to right before her very her book launch, where we meet her book agent or her manager, um or both.
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um I think she's her, I think Divine Joy Randolph. That's not how it's pronounced. I remember from the Oscars that her name is pronounced differently than the way it spelled, but I don't remember. I'm sorry. um This is something we could have prepared for. It would have been so easy to look this up. I know. Divine? Yes. who Who just won the Oscar for the Holdovers. She's fantastic. She's been in a lot of stuff. And I wish I knew how to pronounce her name correctly. She's so funny in this movie. She's great, yeah. um But she's been in, she's in lots of stuff. She's, um she was in the television version of High Fidelity actually, which.
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we talked about in a recent episode of this. Yeah, yeah. And she's not only murders in the building and a bunch of other stuff. And she's fantastic. I believe she is her. I think she's her agent, because she's like, I lost, I can't lose a writer, you know? Yeah, yeah. Because she's handling her on this book drawer. Yeah, her and her social media assistant who loves to hashtag found Mendez in every single day, which is to be fantastic. Patty Harrison, who should be in everything. I love her so much. She got
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She got banned from Twitter, which was a dark day. No, she's on. um She's most people would probably know her from um I Think You Should Leave, ah where she's very funny. She's the tables girl. um but She's also in a very good movie, which we might want. Yes, yes, I can't stand bald boys that made me think that I'm back in the pants, which I say constantly. um Anytime a bald man like slides into my DMs, I just respond with that gif, I can't stand bald boys, and it works 100% of the time. Then they just just disappear. They disappear.
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Um, but she's also in a very great movie, which I love very much, which is in the genre I call platonic comedies called Together Together with Ed Helms that I think we should do on this podcast eventually, because it does kind of have a romantic comedy structure, although it is explicitly non romantic, but it's great. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I feel like we've done lesser rom-com movies. I mean, Legally Blonde, I don't think we could, I mean, while it does have rom and com, it is not a traditional rom-com. Yeah. Yeah. We can do whatever we want, Emma. We can just watch the girl father on here if we wanted to. And we can phrase it like it was a rom-com, baby. That's called analyzing cinema.
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What's the meat cute in The Godfather? I don't know. I've actually never seen The Godfather. Oh, it's good. It's good movie. I think I'm hesitant because it's another one of those film bro movies. And I'm just like, you know what? I was thinking about this because I was thinking about Donnie Darko the other day because somebody posted like one of the like an along clip along clip from Donnie Darko. um Because I was thinking as we talk about these like boy movies a lot like the movies that some boy showed you in a college dorm.
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like Boondock Saints and Donnie Darko and um Pulp Fiction. The Godfather is another one of those. We could do like a series on like dude movies. I think that would that would be fun. Oh, yeah. That would be really fun. Dude bros. Yeah. Dude bro movies. And um female representation in the dude bro movies. Here's a spoiler. It's not great.
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Generally no. Yeah. Generally no, sometimes yes. I mean, but a lot of times no. Yeah. Diane Keating is very good in The Godfather. Oh yeah. Helena Bonham Carter, great in Fight Club. Oh yeah, hell yeah. Yeah. And a role model. I wanted to be Darla. Yeah, I wanted to be Darla so bad. But she's not a real woman. And she's also not, she's a terrible person and is not a role model. um Well, High School Emma wanted to be Darla. I totally get that. That total that totally tracks for High School Emo Emma. High School Emo Emma was like, yes,
Romance Novel Cover Evolution
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Darla. Anyway, so The Lost City. So we've got Loretta. She's our author. She's doing this book release. And this is where we get Bowen! Bowen!
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My love, I love him. Bo and Yang, but famous podcaster and comedian. Come on our podcast, Bo and. He is the moderator for her book event and so, so funny. And as a special guest, um they introduce The Real Dash, which is his real name is Alan, which is Channing Tatum, who is the book model for all of Loretta's see like romance, this romance series. His character's name is Dash. And so he wears a wig and everyone addresses him as Dash. But his real name is Alan. And this was kind of a thing, especially in the 80s and 90s, where these publishers would hire like a specific model to do all of the book covers for their for their imprints. all different authors not necessarily like playing one character in a series like this is but like Fabio is the most famous of these. Yeah, that's kind of how he became famous for being the cover model for romance novels. Yeah, before I hit him in the face on a roller coaster. Charles hu
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Yeah, because Charlie was like, I don't understand why, why, why Alan is like the cover model. Why, why is that the character plot? Like, why? And I was like, well, because Fabio, and then he was like, what? And then I had to explain Fabio. He didn't know who Fabio was. Um, I don't think he knew what Fabio did to get famous. Okay, okay, fair enough. Yeah, he just knew. Um, yeah. They don't really do that anymore. I mean, all the romance novels that I read generally have illustrations on the cover. The photographs on book covers has kind of fallen out of favor in general. Like I could not tell you the last book I even saw that had a photograph as a, ah but a little life, a little life by Hanya Inagihara has a photo for the cover the cover. And let me tell you, that is not a romance novel.
00:29:48
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And it's a deeply upsetting novel that I wouldn't recommend to anybody, but I'm glad I read it. you know It's like, what if this person had a horrible life? ah The end. But it's really beautifully written. Super. Yeah. Well, Katie Bookwrecks. Yeah, I actually i read an article that was, and by read an article, I sort of skimmed it.
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and which was about the evolution of romance novel covers, which is from the like Fabio. Yeah, the like be interested in not reading but skimming that yeah. Yeah, it it was very interesting. And I think that um I totally get as to why you get, you know, a more youthful demographic when you don't have what it doesn't look like a romance novel that your mom would jerk off to. ah it like you're gonna get people buying a book yeah if they think it's just gonna be like a fun comedy and then they get wrapped into some spice and then they're like, oh my God, is this my life now?
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Yeah, and there's also, it's easier to like kind of put your own thoughts because I mean, as as I'm a very visual reader and a very visual
Plot Deep Dive: 'The Lost City' Adventure
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thinker as well, like there's the whole thing where people say like, I can't picture things in my head and I don't understand that at all. um part of me thinks that they're lying. ah Because I do like I create a movie in my head when I read something. And it's easier to like create your own kind of thing. If there's not, if there's a cover model, if there's a photo on the front, like you're hardwired to imagine that person. Like, or if you've seen the movie first before you read the book, it's hard to get the cast out of your head yeah and imagine, you know, the cute boy that you saw um on the bus and instead of the cover model, you know? Exactly. Yeah. No, totally. Or your husband or whatever. I don't know.
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yeah Well, I don't know what what what you're doing. I mean, I'm definitely putting Charlie in all of those situations.
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Oh, my God. I just imagine. I just imagine Charlie with wings. Right. Charlie with wings would be like. Oh, God. Let's like he wouldn't be able to fly with those because he'd be like, oh, no, I can't fly with this wing. It's injured.
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I love my husband very much. ah
00:32:32
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He'd be like, oh, no, no, I'm just gonna walk. He'd be very clumsy if he had a third dimension to navigate, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Bless. I love this script. And I think that the casting is so great in this, because a lot of these like small bit roles I mean, I guess what I'm getting at is I fucking think Daniel Radcliffe has really nailed this whole being a child actor into being an adult actor thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:33:06
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he's i mean he can he's just he has more he know He doesn't have to worry about money for the rest of his life. And so and he doesn't have to worry about continuing to be a celebrity. like like Some people get into that trap of like, well, I have to i have to stay famous. I have to stay relevant. yeah And whether he wants to or not, he is. like He'll always be Harry Potter, unfortunately. um So he gets to have fun with it. And he gets to take weird roles that a normal agent would probably be trying to talk him out of. But he gets to be, you know, a dead body that farts all the time in Swiss Army Man, or he gets to be this weird little succession gremlin um in this movie. So Harry Potter. hi Yeah.
00:33:58
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is something is is something he's both trying to distance himself with and and all but also like not apologizing for, I think. Yeah. um Which good for him. He seems like a good dude and he is like very critical of J.K. Rowling's horrible political beliefs. Yeah. Love that for him. And honestly, the whole cast of that of those movies. And it seems like a good good a good guy. um I love I love being Radcliffe. Yeah. ah He is the villain in this movie. He is. Mm hmm. He is Kieran Culkin from Succession, basically. Yeah. um Yeah. His name is Abigail Fairfax. The joke is that all the boys in his family have women's names.
00:34:41
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yep Abigail and his sister, his brothers, Vivian and and Helen or something. I don't remember. They name they name two others, but they all have women's names. Yeah. My favorite moment is that whenever he introduces himself as Abigail Fairfax, um he immediately jumps to defend it. And ah ah Sandra Bullock is like, oh, no, that's not what I'm hung up about. What I'm hung up about is, aren't you supposed to be like a billionaire? Yeah. So his older brother inherited the family's media empire when their dad died, and he's sore about it.
00:35:20
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and, oh, his younger brother, sorry, his younger brother inherited younger the media empire and he didn't. So he's sore about it and now he has to have his own thing, which is yeah pretending to be Indiana Jones. um He wants to, he's interested in archeology and anthropology and wants to um find this thing called the crown of fire, which is this legendary lost artifact off this, in this island in the middle of the Atlantic. So he wants to hire her because she did some academic writing. Her husband was an expert, but her husband died. And so she's the next best thing because she did worked on some academic writing on it many years ago. And she has incorporated a lot of it into her fiction. And he knows that she can read these um ancient petroglyphs.
00:36:12
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um That are on this island that where he's trying to make this discovery and so he offers her Come to this island and do this and I'll pay you whatever you want. She says no, so he kidnaps her yeah you know, standard. Yeah, like you do like billionaires do because no one can say no to them. um And they don't and they aren't held to the burden of law as the Supreme Court recently decided. um You can't prosecute people if they're if they're famous or or rich or president enough. Yeah. But this is not a podcast.
00:36:50
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No, this is it. I mean, but that's just a human fact.
00:36:56
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Correct, yes, that no one is above the law. I wish that were a human fact. Unfortunately, it's not. I do too. I do too. And if they do get if they do get if if and if a billionaire who's done a bunch of horrible things, let's be honest, they've all done a bunch of horrible things. If a billionaire who's done a bunch of horrible things is made to face their crimes, they ah mysteriously kill themselves slash are murdered in prison. Listeners, this is the part of the podcast where my computer overheated because I was in a room that was 94 degrees and I thought I was too good for an AC unit during heat wave. So I had to quickly start to the bedroom where it was not 94 degrees. Now back to your regular programming.
00:37:40
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We've taken an adventure into the bedroom, much like Sandra Bullock in this movie, takes an adventure to an island in the in the Atlantic against her will. Yes. So she gets, Dana Radcliffe ties her up and says, you need to translate this document. And she is still, we should say, in her sparkly jumpsuit and heels from the- Yes. From the- From the book launch. From the press tour appearance. Yeah, the book launch. Yeah. Oh, and we should say that at the press tour, she makes a quick decision to announce that she is going to kill off Dash
00:38:19
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right and end the series of books, which is news to everybody. And everyone's not that excited about it. Yes, yes. No one likes that. Yeah. At least of which being Channing Tatum's character who she gets into an argument with and she storms away and then she disappears. So Channing Tatum has a vested interest in finding her because it's heavily implied that he's got a big crush on her. He's got a big crush. Big Himbo has a big crush on Sandy. which is nice because she's 20 years older than him. And usually that kind of age dynamic in a movie like this is reversed, so. Exactly. Good for her. And I will say, so this is the first of Emma's Fun Facts. Emma's Fun Facts. um So, Channing Tatum's role was originally supposed to be, it was supposed to be um Ryan Reynolds was supposed to be in the role of Alan, but they could not get a hold of him in time, so.
00:39:16
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They couldn't get ahold of him in time. That's what IMDb Trivia said. I don't know how much they it just, it actually just said that they couldn't get ahold of him. and And I'm like, they couldn't get ahold of, they got like two other cast members of, the yeah, exactly. It's scheduling conflicts. They could get ahold of him. There were two other cast members from the proposal. Exactly. What? yeah whatever. But yeah, it was supposed to be Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, um I like this better. Probably. Yeah, I do too. um lying Ryan Reynolds is is... I'm a little tired of Ryan Reynolds. No offense, Blake. If you're listening to this, you should still be friends with Emma. Still be friends with me. Still be friends with me. Best friends. Emma will never speak to me again, if that's what you want. I'll probably have had enough to your husband.
00:40:08
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Goodness. Yeah, so he and um Divine Joy Randolph, I feel bad. i let Let me just, let me take a quick second and just look up how to say. I was going to say we got back because that's her character's name. Her name.
00:40:30
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Davine, it's Davine. Okay, that's it. Davine Joy Randolph and Patty Harrison and Channing Tatum try to notify the authorities. um The cops are completely useless just like real life. um they can't so But Channing Tatum knows a guy from one of his yoga classes or something.
Treasure Discovery and Conflict Resolution
00:40:53
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Meditation meditation meditation or retreat. who's like a guy who does this, who's like a fixer. He's like an action movie star. And he's like, I'll call that guy. His name is Jack Trainer. And we don't know if he's Jack Trainer, Trainer being the last name or Trainer being that's his occupation. And that's just what he is in Alan's phone. Correct, yes. So they hire him, who is, of course, played by Brad Pitt. Of course.
00:41:22
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to to go extract her. And so they track her using her smartwatch to this island. Channing Tatum goes with him. He tells him to stay in the car. Channing Tatum does not stay in the car because he wants to rescue her. He wants to be the one who's like, he's trying to make a gesture, but he's kind of dumb, but sweet. He's a, he's a himbo. He's your classic himbo. Yeah. yeah um Sweet golden retriever um kind of dumb boy. Yeah. yeah And all he wants is to be the one to say to Sandra Bullock, you're safe now. Shh. Shh.
00:42:02
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We're just so fucking condescending, but it's sweet. It's sweet in context of this. It's very sweet. Well, regardless, Brad Pitt's safe. Don't ever such a woman, honestly. But in this case, it's OK. Never. Yeah. Because it's meant in good faith. Yes. um ah So Brad Pitt goes and absolutely decimates ah the private security that Dana Radcliffe has hired, rescues Sandra Bullock very easily, gets her back to the car, chanting Tatum, um bumbling along with him. They get back to the car and Brad Pitt gets shot in the head immediately. Yeah.
00:42:43
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Well, he immediately takes Channing Tatum's line, cuz there's chemistry building between Brad Pitt and Sandra Bullock. And cuz she's causing it like, oh my God, who are you? And he goes, you're safe now. And Channing Tatum's like, that's my line. And then Brad Pitt out of nowhere gets shot in the head. And then Channing Tatum and Sandra Bullock are on their own. And hilarity ensues. Yeah, and then it's ah it's a chase through the jungle with front with Daniel Radcliffe because Sandra Bullock takes the parchment that Daniel Radcliffe gave her to translate because now she's on the case. Even though she says she doesn't care privately, she wants to figure out this mystery because apparently there's a secret grave site somewhere on this island that has the um that has the remains of the ah the king
00:43:37
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and Queen with this artifact, the Crown of Fire. And she wants to find it because it's kind of been her, it was it was her husband's life work. It was her, it was her, you know, obsession when she was younger. And she wanted, but she doesn't want to interact with to have it. So they're chasing after her to try to get this parchment back. um And also the volcano on the island is going to erupt soon and destroy everything. So there's a what we call in the screenwriting game, a ticking clock.
00:44:11
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yeah
00:44:14
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Yes. And then they there's there's island hijinks, you know? yeah um they go They go into um ah the wire ah water, which gives Channing Tatum eczema and also um lots of leeches. Of course he has to get naked so they can get the leeches off of him. He has to take his pants off and we see butt. Full Full butt. And, you know, I was gonna say side hog, but not, I mean, like, the the the muscles, the V muscles. What's that called? Oh, um, cum gutters?
00:44:59
Speaker
Jesus Christ. um I never heard that, but that is not what I thought you were going to say. Have you never heard of that term? ah No, I know. It shocked me the first time that I heard it, which yeah apparently was on Rick and Morty, but I constantly tell Charlie that it's right. And he said, yeah yeahs like yeah, I did not say that I did not come up with that. It's from Rick and Morty. um I don't think it's from Rick and Morty because I haven't watched Rick and Morty, but I have heard it. um I've also heard Vagina Bones as another name. Vagina Bones. No, I like cum gutters. Yeah. Well, we all everyone knows what we're talking about. Yep. This is an explicit podcast, we should say. ah The E is definitely on our podcast rating.
00:45:47
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Yeah, um Emma's niece, don't listen to this one. Don't listen to this.
00:45:56
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um Yeah, so then they have to and they then and then we get a bunch of like romance tropes. You know, there's only one hammock for proximity. They have to conserve um body heat and all of that. they um It's ah it's it's lovely. And they grow closer. And she kind of like he gets humanized for for her because she just kind of finds him annoying and trivial. But he he and he doesn't really I guess they do save each other at a couple of moments throughout this. But like he is never put in a position where he is saving her, which is the how you can tell this movie is made in 2022 and not 1985 or whenever Romancing the Stone came out.
00:46:46
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He constantly is trying, but he's constantly trying to save her and it doesn't ever really work out because she ends up saving him or or saving the both of them on multiple occasions. um That's about it. They kill some people. Yeah, by accident. There's a really great bit. I mean, it's kind of like Rachel McAdams in Game Night. Like, oh no, he died. Yeah. Where they they kill these people, and they they kind of have a few moments of like reckoning with it. And they're like, maybe they're OK. Maybe they're not. And also, maybe that first one the first one was on us. But the second guy, I mean, that would have happened if we were here or if we weren't here. Yeah, yeah.
00:47:31
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Yeah, um but they were trying to kill them, so it's okay. Yeah, and then you find out you find out at the end that this hidden tomb, this hidden tomb to this king and queen at the greatest treasure is not, the head the crown is not gold, it's not jewels, it is ah love, it was made of love and that's why it's the greatest treasure.
Sequel Speculations and Narrative Tension
00:47:56
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ah It's made out of seashells and he spent all this time collecting all of these rare red seashells to prove His love for her that he would go through all of this this effort to to make this headdress for her and that's the crown of fire the red shells in her headdress and He died and she laid down in his tomb and and like killed herself because she didn't want to stop holding him which yeah is ah deeply romantic and And Daniel Radcliffe is having none of that. We should also say that one ah like one of the most harrowing things in film happens before this, where she has to crawl through this tiny tunnel. Did you get claustrophobic? I got claustrophobic. Oh my god, of course, of course.
00:48:42
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Like, real The Descent vibes. I don't know if you've seen this, but there so there was a true story, and like, this comes, it shows up on Twitter all the time. It's this image of this man who was um exploring some cave, and he took a wrong turn, and he got into this area where he was past his shins in this, nope like, face down, and he got stuck, and they he died because they couldn't, like, rescuers were there, and they just couldn't get him out. Yeah. um And I think about it all the time. yeah I don't fuck with caves. No, don't fuck with caves. Like, it's terrible. um But what's crazy is that Sandra Bullock, five, three, 100 pounds, maybe gets like shoulders that are 11 inches wide. I don't know how yeah how big she is, but she's a small person. She's small. Riggles her way through this tunnel.
00:49:36
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And then Jane O'Rourke was like, all right, Channing Tatum, you go in after her. Like there's no fucking way Channing Tatum. How did Channing Tatum get through there? If she was struggling to get through there, Channing Tatum would be dead. He wouldn't even get in the first bit of it. Yeah, that was a little bit of a plot hole. Yeah. And they just cut around it. It doesn't show him go through or anything. He just comes out the other side. And then Daniel Radcliffe, who's a tiny person, I believe that he could get through it. Yeah, I believe that he would be in there. But the henchmen, that was when. Oh, actually, Sandra, Sandra Bullock's 5'7". Oh, really?
00:50:10
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Yeah, so she's taller than Daniel Franklin. Yeah, I mean, it's not hard to do. Yeah, but she's slight and smaller than Channing Tatum, which is important. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Channing Tatum is the one that we are baffled at got through that cave. Like it was the cave scene and then it was there was another one that I felt Oh, and when they get locked because they Dana Radcliffe locks them in the tomb right before the volcano is about to erupt to get away um and and sort of like burying them alive. That also gave me claustrophobia. And I was like, Jesus fucking Christ, they're going to be in there until ah they run out of air. And that's terrifying. welllthough The lava would have killed them before that, probably.
00:50:57
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but they'll be burned alive. So it's not a great way to die either way. No, locked in a tomb and burned alive is not a great way to die. um I don't think there's any great ways to die. People are like, it's like going to sleep. Locked in a tomb, burned alive. Nobody on the other side can tell you otherwise. So how do you know? So Daniel Radcliffe, all of the guys who were with him have died except for one at this point. And this guy hates Daniel Radcliffe so much. Yeah.
00:51:29
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And he he saves them at the end. He drops. Because he's from the island. Yeah. right Yeah. It's his home that. Yeah. And Dana Radcliffe just wants to buy it and ruin it and just like steal from it. And so finally at the end, he drops in a crowbar into the tomb as Loretta and Alan are being entombed alive and runs off with Dana Radcliffe's boat and being like, you took from the island. Now the island is going to take from you. Yeah. And i I was only slightly disappointed because when you say crown of fire and you watch this movie, like I immediately think like Daniel Radcliffe is going to get his head caught on fire. Like he's going to have molten gold poured on his head like the guy from Game of Thrones. But sadly, he survives this film, um possibly in case there's a sequel. I'm not sure.
00:52:23
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I don't know if I'd want there to be a sequel because it was so good how it ended and it just sort of like nice little close that book. Yeah. There is a sequel to romancing the stone called jewel of the Nile, which I remember when I was in college, there was a, um, in my film studies class, we read an essay talking about the, why the sequel jewel of the Nile doesn't work. Um, and it's a, it's a famous example of like, you can't, you can't make a sequel without another internal conflict because of exactly you have to have more conflict.
00:52:55
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Yeah, because they're together at the beginning of it. So there has to be some kind of thing that they're working with internally as opposed to just externally, because an external conflict without an without an internal conflict isn't compelling enough for for a movie. Yeah, that's I think one of the reasons why we eventually like in ACOTAR, Sarah De Mas just sort of like flips characters POVs because you run out of things that Reese and oh yeah spoilers for ACOTAR. If you have not read ACOTAR, go do it now. It's great. ah Pause it, pause this, read yeah five books and then come back to us.
00:53:34
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Yeah, then come back to us. And it's because she runs out of things for Farah and Reese to do and like there's only so much war that they can get past. It's also why, you know, it's why it gets so annoying in like the second and third of those series of after you get the couple together. Then what next? Then you have to do some kind of bullshit where he becomes like a completely different person when she's married and becomes this huge asshole that lies to her. Apparently. Exactly. Apparently. Get it together, Sarah. Oh.
00:54:14
Speaker
Oh wait, does that happen in that too? From Blood and Ash, you end it with a big betrayal. And then the second book is more of them getting together. like most I thought you were talking about pregnancy. i'm on the I started the third one and I started reading something else in the Blood and Ash series. So I'm i'm only like 50 pages into the third one. The blood and ash and then serpent and the wings of night are very similar in that like the first book you get all the tension and that you can tell that they love each other and they fall for each other. But then there's a big buck and betrayal at the end of book one that then starts the whole shit over again because the female protagonist is like, well, you lied to me, so you suck. Which fair, but sometimes you just want them to get together and be happy.
00:55:00
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Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, like, that's what the I mean, that's the fantasy. That's what these books are about. It's about like, you know, the H.E.A. as they say. H.E.A. What is H.E.A.? Happy Ever After. Oh, oh, I like that. The H.E.A. Yeah. If you read, if you if you go on and read like um synopses of of romance novels there, they'll usually say, you know, features in H.E.A., features innate because they because you don't wanna read normal people by mistake.
Genre Expectations and Happy Endings
00:55:33
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you know like if you're If you're expecting that, you don't wanna read the notebook. yeah Where things get real depressing and then you finish the book and you're like, oh my God, what is life? Yeah, and that's the difference between a literary fiction that concerns itself primarily with interpersonal relationships versus a romance novel or a rom-com. And that's why we love rom-coms.
00:55:57
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And not that we don't like normal people. Yeah, exactly. I loved normal people. It just made me really sad. And the notebook. It just made me really sad. Yeah, and that's fine. It's good to feel sad sometimes. But sometimes that's not what you want when you're watching or reading something. And um yeah, you deserve you deserve to know, I think, what you're getting into genre-wise. Totally. I agree. um What was your relationship with The Lost City? When did you first see it? um I saw when it came out. I was super excited. um i had I had been reading about it, um like you know new any any new rom-com, especially something that's going to be released theatrical theatrically. I was super excited about it. Like right now, have you seen the trailer for Fly Me to the Moon?
00:56:50
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I've seen bits, I'm pretty excited about it. I know that there's been, we've been sort of bombarded with rom-coms, because there's Fly Me to the Moon, there's the Nicole Kidman Zac Efron one that apparently I've heard isn't very great. We have to do that. Oh really? Yeah, but that was my friend Robert's review, and that's going to be a new corner called Robert, Robert Mazza Gives a Review. And his review was, he didn't like it. Oh, well, he didn't like anyone but you and he was right about that. So yeah, he said anyone but you is anything but good. Love you, Robert. be um Yeah, I am and I liked it. Like, I think it wasn't, you know, it's not
00:57:31
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Perfect. um I think it would be up a full half a star if it was called Velocity of D. I'm not going to go over that, ever. Absolutely. No. But it's it's cute. it was It was cute. It was fun. The action rom-com genre is not my favorite, but this was yeah it was fun. I liked it. And this worked. I think that because of all the comedy bits in it and then like you know obviously the fact that it's surrounded by a romance novelist, um I felt like maybe there could have been, I mean, they utilize the tropes, but there could have been maybe more sort of hinting at her books or referencing to her books throughout the movie is the one thing I thought that it lacked. Because they don't really do that except for the beginning and the end, which is like a nice sort of um bookend to it. But like maybe while they were in the jungle, I mean, the most she does is she constantly yells at Channing Tatum that he's not Dash. And I think that there could have been
00:58:30
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other ways that they could have utilized how Shantae thought he was Dash. Like, you know, they could have had him try to do a very Dash-ism. um
00:58:42
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Oh, well, Charlie and I saw this when it came out as well. um We actually both really enjoyed it the second time around ah because the first time around we watched it. we I think it was, we had, we're like doing a Saturday night wine and cocktails with movie. And this was the second movie of the night. So we weren't really paying and that much attention to it. um So we thought it was fine, but um it's such a great fun rom-com. Yeah. Charlie's Corner is pretty solid. He thought it was quite enjoyable. Quite enjoyable. That's what I was waiting for. I was waiting for the enjoyable. The quite enjoyable. im Yeah, a White Sweater for me is probably Daniel Radcliffe. Daniel Radcliffe, 1,000% Daniel Radcliffe. He steals every scene in this movie, either Daniel Radcliffe or Brad Pitt, or the combination of the two.
00:59:39
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yeah yeah And Brad Pitt, I think, did this as a favor to Sandra Bullock because she was in Bullet Train for him, I think. Yeah. Bullet Train, which is a terrible movie that I would not recommend. But this is a great movie. Also, at the end, there's a um there's like a ah they play Lotto's ah Big Dick Energy, but it's censored. much like Much like the Lost City of D, the D in Big Dick Energy is censored at the end of this movie because they're cowards. Well, Bo and Yang makes a reference to it, though, at the beginning, whenever they're like... Well, her book is called The Lost City of D. Yeah, it's called The Lost City of D. Yeah. And they make an entire... They have an entire conversation at the book launch about it. And there's a joke where Terry Tatum thinks that it means destiny, and Bo and Yang's like, well, it means dick, obviously.
01:00:35
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Yeah, yeah. It's great. It's great. And then Sandra Bullock has some kind of academic answer, which is, I'm i'm sure, what velocity of Z is is a reference to. like they They called it that because they couldn't pronounce the you know native word for for that city. and Everybody dies in that movie, also. um So that's another reason why I haven't. It's about a bunch of people who went missing and would never recovered. So it's kind of like one of those things where it's like, am I in the mood for that? you know That's why I haven't watched it. Spoilers for that, I guess. and And yeah, that's about all I got. Yeah, me too.
Podcast Closure and Host Remarks
01:01:08
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Me too. What are we watching next time, Emma? um I was looking up some summer rom-coms. And I don't know why, but every time I think of summer, I think of this one rom-com. It is a classic. It is an early 2000s classic. um How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days. Hell yeah. But yeah, we haven't done a classic classic in a minute. So we're going to do How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days.
01:01:30
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