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How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days
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Emma and Katie discuss the now-classic 2004 romcom and also: tornadoes, diamond cartels, Kathryn Hahn, the films of Ron Howard, romance audio books and much more.
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Celebrating One Year of Podcasting
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Oh obviously, and then we'll be on our one year anniversary of doing this show. I know! Oh my god, what are we going to do for our one year anniversary? La La Land? Get some more viewers, listeners, hopefully. By doing La La Land? You can pick it on any one of your parents. I just don't want you to get mad at me when we record the episode.
00:00:28
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I would never. And by you, I mean both you, Emma, and also you, the listener.
Charlie's Angry Texts and Podcast Singing
00:00:35
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I thought you were also going to say Charlie, because I understand that he sent you some angry text messages today. He was upset I didn't know spandau ballet off the top of my head.
00:00:46
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Yeah, I listened to that moment happen live um whenever in the wedding singer episode when you're like, and then that he's playing, he's singing the song true by whoever sings true. And then I can hear Charlie in his office going, what? Oh my God. What are they bigger in England or something? Like most people don't know that. That is a one-hit there one hit wonder, Charles. I'm sorry.
00:01:15
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at least in America. He's got like a bunch of their vinyls. I don't know why he's such a big fan. But I thought that was quite humorous. I definitely couldn't name another spandau ballet song. Neither could I. Um, let's see, if you Google them, it comes up with true muscle bound through the barricades only when you leave gold to cuddle. I've never heard of any of these songs. Yeah. Also, I couldn't sing you true off the top of my head.
00:01:43
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Oh, I mean, I could that's the um um ah Oh, yeah. Okay. by but ah ah um Amazing. I'm gonna cut that out. Never. not cut out ever I won't cut you. I won't cut out you singing on the podcast, but I'm gonna cut me out singing on the podcast.
00:02:03
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I was going to say I very much appreciated that two minutes of me just singing to myself at the end of Legally Blonde. A little bonus. Yeah. A little bonus. This new outro is going to be just Emma singing while Katie's trying to find headphones. These musical theater songs, yeah. Right. Oh my god. Oh my god, you guys. Not again. You can never escape it, Katie.
00:02:32
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I'm sure well will at one some point we will cover another another mom con that has been made into a musical. So oh your opportunity there. They're they it's like every musical nowadays. The entirety of Broadway is like the notebook water for elephants.
00:02:50
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Both notable non rom-coms, but yes. Mulan Rouge. Mulan Rouge is funnier than the notebook, but still kind of a bummer. But again,
Musicals and Movie Adaptations
00:03:04
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we can cover whatever we want on this show. Exactly. I was thinking like how could we, because I want to do the notebook at some point. How explain how can we spin it? Like what funny moments are in the notebook?
00:03:19
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That's a tough one. That's a a tough one. Is it every time every bit of banter when they're when they're like flirting? Yeah, there's got there's there's some lightness, you know, in the past. Yeah, right. Right. Yeah.
00:03:36
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Yeah, it's not all sad. It's not. It's a very I mean, that's a great movie. It's a it's a very um fantastic movie.
Spoilers and Recent Media
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But it's yeah, but it's not in a sweet way. You know, yes. sir Because they maybe we spoilers for the notebook.
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ah
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Watch out listeners if you haven't watched the notebook. the notebook, notably not what we're covering today. You know, that did happen to me, though. um So I'm listening to this notebook happen to you. No, no, no, no. Yes, I'm a time traveler. Um, no, but like spoilers for I like for a second got offended that there were spoilers in ah for a movie that I've never seen that's been out since like the 80s.
00:04:21
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I was listening to this fantastic book called The September House, which is this horror book about this woman who, her and her has been moved into a haunted house, and she has never been able to afford a house or ever have a house, so she refuses to move. And so she just deals with a ghost. And I'm like, yes.
00:04:39
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This is what I want. would yeah Exactly. This is what I want. I want a ah ah horror comedy about a ah well really what i want is um horror comedy about a millennial who buys the last house available that they can afford and is house poor and it's like super fucking haunted and you can't move because you just you got to deal with it.
Weather, Twister, and Personal Movie Preferences
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um But she's talking about like her and her husband, they go on one of their first dates to see the exorcist and they they're talking about it and they spoil the end of the exorcist. And I'm like, mother. You haven't seen the exorcist? No.
00:05:17
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I mean, that's from the 70s. I know. And I was like slightly mad for a second. I was like, Emma, you've had so long. You've had your entire life to watch The Exorcist. You should watch it. It's good. We watched it not too long ago at ah at one of our weekly movie nights and it totally holds up. Like it's really. Oh, really? Oh, good. It's been on my list, but it's definitely it's a um I feel like it's like a a rainy September watch, you know?
00:05:46
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Yeah, yeah. Like end of September, early October. It's a bummer. Like it's a hard watch. Like it's not like a fun movie. Yeah, but like the vibes, you know, like the vibes, like the vibes are there. I absolutely know what you mean, of course, yeah. I watch movies by vibes. I watch movies that I watch every year at certain times. Yeah.
00:06:08
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because I just, I need like the right weather and I need like the right atmosphere. I need like a pumpkin candle. I don't want it to be too close to Halloween because there's like other more Halloween movies. And this just feels general fall. I want to be under orange, like twinkle lights that I put up for Halloween decorations. Again, not too close to Halloween because I will start in September.
00:06:32
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I mean yes, spooky season starts on September 1st and lasts until Thanksgiving. um That's how it goes. Try explaining that to Charles. Our friend Madison on July 5th every year posts, Halloween season has begun. I mean, she's not wrong.
00:06:52
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I don't know if the listeners can hear that, but it is raining once again in Chicago. It's been raining every day for a week. and We've had horrible thunderstorms and tornadoes. I heard about that. Are you guys doing okay? ah Yeah, we're fine. I mean, like we had the terrifying moment of our phones screaming at us last night with the tornado warnings like but the alert comes through. Yeah. But yeah, it was fine. I mean, it was it rained hard, but it wasn't We weren't, we, it wasn't scary where we were at least. I know they touched down and like hit a couple of places, mostly out of the suburbs. Yeah. and But yeah, it was crazy. It was definitely, yeah, two days in a row, tornado warnings. Yeah. Jesus Christ, Midwest. You know what's funny? I just watched Twister. So that feels tough.
00:07:37
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yeah We watched, obviously, because we're gonna watch Twisters starring my boyfriend. Exactly. Coming out
Introducing the Podcast and Personal Reflections
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next week. Yeah, yes same, same time. Oh my God, I have to stop Pauling. I was at a bar the other day and I was talking to a friend of mine who doesn't like watch a lot of movies or no actors and stuff. And I was like, I know my boyfriend is in the sequel and it's coming out. And he was like, your boyfriend is in the sequel?
00:08:03
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No, Angel. No. Oh, I wish. Yeah. No, it's like how you it's like how your girlfriend is Chapel Rhone. He was like, oh, okay, I get it now. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, everyone's girlfriend is Chapel Rhone. Yeah, exactly. um Because she is your dream girl's dream girl. Exactly. Anyways, Chapel Rhone and Glenn Powell famously featured in today's film,
00:08:31
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That's right, guys. This is Go Get Your Girl, the podcast where Emma and Katie both come up with plans to manipulate other innocent human beings, only to find out that that other innocent human being is also manipulating them, and then they fall in love. That's right. It's Go Get Your Girl, and I'm Emma. And I'm Katie. And we're talking about- Emma, Emma, you are blowing out the mic.
00:09:01
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Oh, sorry. Look at your waveform compared to mine at the bottom of the screen. I was I was listening to the an episode, our latest episode of the podcast yes ah yesterday of Legally Blonde and the entire time I'm listening to it, I'm just going, who let this annoying theater girl have a podcast?
00:09:24
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Talking about myself, obviously. Yeah, i both of us. Yeah. I do tend to duck your audio when I edit the episodes. I bring you down like about eight decibels. I mean, that's fair. That's fair. You can you can talk to Charlie about that. um He constantly shushes me. Well, he shouldn't shush you. That's rude. Yeah, I would never. Sexist. That's i hate women.
00:09:53
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Jesus. I'm gonna get a text message about that. I know. Charles Blunt does not hate women.
00:10:01
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He's just British. He likes things quiet. Exactly. And he doesn't understand why my mom and I have to be at the same volume when we're on the phone. There was one time that he told me- It's his fault for marrying a loud American. Yeah, exactly. He should have known. He should have known.
00:10:18
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Anyways, so how to lose a guy in 10 days, not 10 things I hate about you. Correct, which I'm glad you didn't watch by mistake, especially considering this was your choice and not mine. It was my choice. Well, I had a panic that you watched the wrong movie. Like, I was just like... Oh, no, no, no.
00:10:34
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Yeah, I was so worried that I had told you 10 things I hate about you, but like said it with knowing that what I meant and then i that conversation and then we would end up today, which is why last night I was just like, Charlie and I watched how to lose a guy in 10 days. It's great, right?
00:10:54
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really it It didn't strike me as odd that you texted that to me. You did, yeah. Also, also Charlie and I watched How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days tonight and I forgot how funny it is. It's so good, I can't wait to talk about it.
00:11:08
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Yes. Did you realize that was a stealth? Did I pick the right, did I say the right name of the movie? Well, no, I was just gonna say. It was very smooth. Thank you so much. I was just gonna say, Charlie and I watched, I was gonna say that regardless, but I was just gonna say, Charlie and I watched the movie tonight. And then I was like, no, I need to make sure that we're on the same page about the movie. So I
Analyzing Rom-Com Elements
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texted out. I mean, I didn't.
00:11:31
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I didn't say anything about it. I just said, it's so good. I didn't say like, so good you're right. That is the film that we're we're talking about. What? I thought you meant 10 things ahead about you. Yeah. yeah Anyway, yes. How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, directed by Donald Petrie. and This is the second film that we've covered by him. I don't remember if if we've covered two films by the same director yet on this movie, on this podcast before. But Donald Petrie, of course, directed Mystic Pizza. That was his first film. He also directed Miss Congeniality, which we will definitely cover on this podcast.
00:12:09
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Absolutely. Grumpy old men, which that might be a rom com. That could be a rom com. We might be able to do that. I haven't seen that movie since I was a child. I don't remember. I feel like Jack Lemmon gets together with Sophia Loren in that movie. I think it's a rom com. I confuse that with the other old people movie. You'll have to be more specific.
00:12:34
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You know the one word that's like, it's like name something weird, like cocoon. Oh yeah. Very different. Cocoon is about aliens that make old people younger. And grumpy old man is a rom com set in Alaska. Jack limit and Walter map out. I know nothing about it either film.
00:12:53
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You know who loves Cocoon? Caitlin. Seriously? Yeah. So Caitlin was like, you know what movie I love? Cocoon. we It was back in the early days of when we started doing our movie, our weekly movie night with Cassie and Luke. And she was like, I want to watch Cocoon and Cocoon is not streaming anywhere.
00:13:10
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Um, there's some kind of weird rights issue, I believe with it. Um, because it was like a big move is a big hit. Like, you know, it won Oscars and stuff. Um, Oscars. Yeah. Uh, Donna Michi, who was like a who a famous actor from the 30s and 40s and stuff. He was, you know, in his 80s when he made that movie, he won Best Supporting Actor for Cocoon. Yeah.
00:13:33
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It was one of those things where like he should have he you know he should have won when he was young. and yeah now yeah He's in a great rom-com or a screwball we will watch one day called Midnight. um That's gonna be on my list one day. Don Ameche's super hot in the movie Midnight. ah Less hot when he's 87 years old, only one best supporting actor, but still kinda hot. Oh, okay. Yeah, thanks, get it. But yeah, so we so um we did end up watching, like two years later, we did end up finally watching Cocoon, and it was fine.
00:14:02
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Oh, okay. You're just fine. It was fine. It was a movie that Caitlin watched a lot when she was a kid and she's so like, she was into it, but, and we all watched it and we're like, yeah, that was fine. I don't think Ron Howard's made any good movies. Think maybe. Ron Howard. Apollo 13 is a good movie. That's a Ron Howard movie I like. I was gonna say, he also did the Grinch.
00:14:30
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ah Yeah, a terrible movie. It's not terrible. What is the ugliest movies ever put to film? Uh, I'm sorry, but the whos are adorable. The whos are terrifying. And despite Christine Baranski, who is my godmother, obviously, as everyone knows, obviously, um as um Betty Whovier. I can't believe I pulled that out.
00:15:00
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Um, who's extremely cunty in that movie. ah Every everything else in that movie is a ah horror for the eyes.
00:15:13
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You're definitely getting a hateful text from Charles now. That's his no Charles likes the cringe. Oh god, I'm sorry. maybe Yeah, it's like it's Bad, bad movie. he He could quote that movie beginning to end. but Interesting. And he does. Sorry, Charles.
00:15:35
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I don't lose a guy in 10 days is direct from 2003 is directed by Donald Petrie who grumpy old man is how we got to ah the Grinch and then written by, ah so it was written by a team of Christine, Kristen Beckley and Brian Regan, not the comedian Brian Regan, but a different Brian Regan um who only wrote two movies. They wrote 102 Dalmatians and they wrote this.
00:16:01
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yeah and and a hundred and one Not Not 101 nominations. 102. The Glenn Close live action sequel. What about 103? I think that was straight to video and I think that Glenn Close declined to reprise her role in that one.
00:16:16
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And no, they don't have a credit for that or the first one, just 102 Dalmatians. And then someone named Burr Steers, who wrote It Be Goes Down ah and Pride and Prejudice and Zombies. So nobody in this, none of the writers in this have many credits at all. So and then it's based on a book also.
00:16:37
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ah Well, yeah, um it was based on a book, ah the first of Emma's Fun Facts, Emma's Fun Facts. um It was based on a book, but the book is just, it's similar to how, um how to know that he's not you and mean girls are based on books. It's based on like a sort of faux kid book. It's a picture book of like how to lose a guy in 10 days. It's like a cute car like like go with the fuck to sleep like a children's book that's actually for adults. Okay, yeah exactly. Yeah, it's like you're not very long. Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:14
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Wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't it be great if you wrote like a 15 page book that took, I don't know, 20 minutes to write, and then it got optioned for a movie and you got like, yeah I don't know, half a million dollars for it. I'm just guessing. That'd be pretty nice. And then probably royalties, because it was the early 2000s. So she's probably getting something on the back end. Yeah, I mean, they I think that the the WGA has lost a lot of those fights since then. But yeah, probably in 2003, I bet they did. yeah in 2003. Yeah. And yeah, I definitely know what the back end and points are. Anyways.
00:17:51
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ah So how did there's a guy in 10 days starring um classic rom com couple, Kate Hudson and Matthew McConaughey? The ah the second lady and second man of rom coms. From the rom com Mount Rushmore of Tom Hanks, Meg Ryan, Matthew McConaughey and Kate Hudson. Yep, yep. But it does have America's best friend, Kevin Hahn in it, who looks the exact same.
00:18:26
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She does. Catherine Hahn, incredible in this movie, very funny and yeah deranged. um it's It's so easy to forget that Catherine Hahn had such a long career of mostly thankless roles. Like Catherine Hahn is the best friend in several different rom-coms. This is the only one where she like gets to do anything that I remember at least. um yeah she's um but she's she yeah she's She's funny in this movie. She's great.
00:18:51
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and Yeah, a lot of, a lot of um Thomas Lennon is in this movie, B.B. Newworth, yeah um Adam Goldberg. um There's lots of people. Yeah, the the model Shalom Harlow. um Yeah, it's Michael Michelle. Another. Yeah. Yeah, it's this this cast from the early 2000s is stacked.
00:19:15
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I mean, it's a big budget rom com. It was yeah it was I mean, this was like, that I don't know, it's hard to say because some people say the golden age of the rom com is the 90s. But I think the golden age of the rom com would be the screwball era just because that's like first, you know, and it's also like the golden age of Hollywood. So like if we call the 90s the silver age of the rom com, I think this is the bronze age of the rom com. This is this is when things there were still hits, but things were definitely starting to to fall apart. um Would you call it the Renaissance of the rom com the Ramasants? Yeah, yeah. For I mean, like, it wasn't that far apart. I mean, because if the if if when Harry met Sally to you've got mail is the is that golden slash silver age of the rom com. I mean, this is only four years later. But there is, you know, there's a difference. It's a different like,
00:20:05
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yeah It's a passing of the torch, I suppose, yeah to McConaughey and Kate Hudson, who did three rom-coms together. I'm pretty sure it's just two, but because it was so iconic, it's just everyone's just memory that they're like the vice president of rom-coms.
00:20:22
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Yeah, you're right. I'm so sorry as a couple. No, that's totally fine. It's totally fine. You know, I'm always Matthew, but Matthew McConaughey had several and she had several with with other people. yeah Oh, for sure. Yeah, they were both in a gajillion rom coms. Yeah, um it actually is surprising that they weren't more rom coms because their chemistry is really fun.
00:20:41
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Oh my god, they're so like, it's so good. It's so good. I feel like with any lesser actors, it would have felt kind of hateful towards women.
00:20:52
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possiblyly yeah So many moments. It's just like Kate Hudson just like owns it and Matthew McConaughey makes it just like humorous. um <unk>s It's so funny, because like,
00:21:04
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Every time I watch this movie, i'm expected it to I'm expecting it to not hold up and expecting to find little things. And there are there is some meanness in it, there's so especially like when they're trying to pick out girls for him to... yeah There's a little bit of like body shaming and stuff in that. but There's a lot of body shaming in this. Yeah. Most of the movie, though, I think it kind of adds up. like All of that kind of misogyny and stuff, it's it's too ah it's to a point. I mean, the whole thing. So like let's get this out of the way. So she is a magazine um writer, as are all women in prom comms. Yep, classic.
00:21:44
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Um, and she writes, she writes like a how to for, um, what is the fake magazine? advocas She's not Cosmo. Definitely not Cosmo. Yeah, it's, um, yeah. And she wants to write what sounds like extremely pedestrian, boring are um articles about politics and religion and things that she claims to care about.
00:22:13
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by But we get no evidence of. But we get no evidence of. Yeah, it's how what the the little bit that's shown on the screen of her article about Tajikistan reads like a 10th grade. Yeah, um it like It felt very much like in Clueless when Cher is giving the speech on the Haitians and she yeah keeps calling them the Hadians. Yes. um That is what that is the visualization of this article. Yes. And also, it's not like Cosmopolitan and Vogue and stuff don't do serious reporting because they yeah absolutely do. Absolutely. And so she wants to write stuff like that. and But instead, she works at
00:22:53
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composure and B.B. Neworth, who's her editor, tells her that she has to write about shoes or cosmetic surgery or men or etc, etc. And so she comes up with a plan based on her friend Catherine Hahn. So Catherine Hahn recently got broken up with by her boyfriend of 10 days, I think they said. like It was less, it was a week.
00:23:16
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It was a week. Yeah, she'd been dating this guy for a week. And she made all of these mistakes. And she came on too strong and was clingy, which same. And Catherine Han, I believe is a cancer in this film. 100% And she made all that she made all this, she told him she loved him the first time they had said. And she cried. And not like cute, like one single tear, like she like soft cried. Yes, yes, which I have never done. But again, I understand where she's coming from, just saying.
00:23:50
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um and And, and she's telling her like, you know, this, like, you can't do that, you know, like, Uh, you're going on too strong. Well, and Catherine Han says, you know, you could get away with all of this because you're so much prettier than I am. And Kate Hudson's like, no, that's, that's crazy. First of all, like, no yeah and, which like in a different movie would not have been like explicitly negated, I think, especially at this time. I think there was a lot more of that in the, in the water at the time.
00:24:24
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And so but even though it's the interesting thing, yeah, the interesting thing is because like I i clocked that too, like, um, it would have been leaned into so hard in any other movie at this time. up But like, it's the sheer fact that Catherine Hahn She is the exact there's a scene where they're all walking up to this employee meeting for the magazine for composure and they're standing her and Kate Hudson and then their other friend and They're all within like the same size or two of each other. They're all the same size It's only because Katherine Hahn has this like broad angular face That Hollywood felt like they could get away with casting her as the best friend the fat best friend when she's a size two and
00:25:10
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Which is absurd. yeah sorry I just need to get that out there. No, totally. And I don't think that in this movie, she is the fat best friend. I don't think that they treat her that way. No, but she constantly says that about her. She does. She does. Yes. um Which, again, guilty.
00:25:26
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ah so She ah She says um No, if I did this it would be exactly the same thing like no I'm not hot enough to to prevent a guy from reacting this way if I did these these insane things that you did Yeah, and so part of the the reason that she takes this job. The reason that she does this is not only for Financial gain. It's not only for her career. It's also to prove to her best friend that
00:25:58
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that it's that that that these things are things that would work on anybody. yeah So there is kind of, there is a personal reason why she is writing this article. It is not just a career move, which I did, I rely. I really, I don't think I really like internalize that previously. And I noticed that this time, which I appreciate. Yeah, it gives it a whole other like level and it makes her more likable.
00:26:24
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yeah you know versus like if it was just for a financial gain, it was just to like better her career. like It's so easy to be like, meh. Yeah, exactly. However, they did not feel the need to do that with Matthew McConaughey. Well, no.
00:26:44
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They just knew the audience would be on his side no matter what because of that six pack. Coincidentally, across town, Matthew McConaughey. ah Who is an ad man like the the ad man? ah mag girl rom-com pairing is one for the ages like that's That's just how you started these things like on a script level like oh, he's an advertising and she writes for magazine, right? Well, obviously Yeah, what are the choices that you're like? Well, we don't actually have to see them work Exactly. Yes, they never have to go to the office. They go on dates every night every night
00:27:25
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Um, so coincidentally, he is trying to, he works in advertising and he's trying to get a diamond contract with what is not De Beers, the notoriously evil South African diamond cartel, but a fake French diamond cartel, which I don't remember the name of. I think it's called De Niers. It's something very similar. yes Yeah. It's like De Niers. Yeah. Um, and, uh, yeah.
00:27:54
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So in order to do that, he has... he has he He gets into a competition with the lesbians at the ad cant um yeah ah company who want to pitch the diamond company and he convinces their boss that he can sell anything yeah um that he because they think he's too much of a bro to sell diamonds, that he's not refined. And he thinks that he he says that he's such a good salesman, he can do anything and they're like, okay,
00:28:25
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So if you can sell anything, you can sell yourself, you can fall in love with any girl, you can get any girl to fall in love with you in 10 days by the time of this big diamond gala, right, which happens to be 10 days away. And he's like, absolutely. And the the ad company lesbians, who coincidentally met Andy Kate Hudson's character at the magazine earlier that day and know what she's writing Pick her out in order to screw Matthew McConaughey and say okay So get that girl to fall in love with you and bring her to this dish mirrors party
00:29:05
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and 10 days and if she's in love with you, you can pitch the diamond company and and their boss agrees to this bet. Yeah, their boss who's characterizing everything. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah yeah And he's he's gonna be the judge. He's gonna talk to this girl at the gala to determine whether or not she actually is in love with Matthew McConaughey. Exactly. Yeah. um And so the bet is on and then they have a meet cute, which is
00:29:36
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just them saying single sent words sentences to each other. Um, but it's just, you know, they're, they're both, they're both, they're both lying to each other, right? They're both, yeah it's like, what if two people were trying, we're trying to get the other one to fall in love with him and yeah it's very quick and and to the point because why else wouldn't it be?
Romantic Climax and Misunderstandings
00:29:56
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They're both super hot people and they start dating and So Kate Hudson's plan is to be normal for one day to get him on the hook and then flip the switch and do all of the insane things that she says women.
00:30:15
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do, quote unquote, that women that get that get men to leave them. And that's that's I mean, that's problematic, obvious. Yeah. But I mean, some of them are such basic things that like have been sort of repeated throughout time of like, don't call too frequently or try not to be too clingy.
00:30:35
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but that's I mean, men can do that too. like That's not solely in the realm of women. Yeah, this movie is very gendered. This movie is very 90s comedy. Men are like this and women are like this.
00:30:48
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um hello man yeah
00:30:52
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Totally. um Yeah, and then they're off to the races. I will say I thought it was very funny that for their first date, they go to Carmine's and have lobster. like a straight up lobster dinner for the first date with bibs. That seems a bit extreme. I mean, I think he's like throwing money around. I think that's the intention of that. kind of He's it trying to like, did I mean, she but she I mean, he and then she does the same thing. Like, it's insane. Okay, the thing is, like, this movie is very funny. um so Funny. One of the funniest ah rom coms from this era, at least it's
00:31:33
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Consistently hilarious. She's so funny in this movie. She's so good deranged. ah and Continually does insane things to try to get this man to break up with her and she doesn't understand why he won't and he Needs this woman to be in love with him and doesn't understand why she's behaving in this manner Yeah, why she all of a sudden she's like this whole other different person and he keeps bringing it up He's like, where's the cool calm sexy Andy that I met or like I don't have room for all your Personalities like these are things that he just like he
00:32:10
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views at her. And you're just like, well, okay, great. But I mean, it's it's hard. I mean, which is sexist, obviously, but it's tempered by the fact that she's acting like an insane person. Ah, yeah, I know. Which here is another Emma's fun fact Emma's fun fact. Um,
00:32:29
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The scene when Kate Hudson comes in and it's boys' night and they're all playing poker at his apartment and she crashes poker night. And she comes in with a dog and sandwiches and snacks and like, you know, gets them all to stop smoking their cigars, which they love, stop eating the pizza that they love, and then ah starts screaming at Matthew McConaughey about how he let their love fern die. That whole scene,
00:32:58
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Kate Hudson improvised. Really? Yes. like That's pretty good. Right? But you killed our love furnace. Yes.
00:33:10
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You killed our love bird. There's so much improvisation from Kate Hudson in this movie. Like that scene she improvised. um That's most of my fun facts is that was improvised. That was improvised. um She sounds like that script didn't need three people to write it then.
00:33:29
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and Exactly. um She improvised like making out with Matthew McConaughey's face what when she introduces a new dog, like just kissing him all over in front of his friends. That was a Kate Hudson move. um Kate Hudson improvised lines when they were watching Sleepless in Seattle in the movie theater, and she keeps talking through the movie so that the person behind them will get mad.
00:33:52
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And she so she come she says I've always wanted a man like Tom Hanks and you can't watch Meg Ryan for two hours and not be thinking about another girl Okay, Hudson originals. Yeah So that yeah, so the plot is they they go on a date every night and she does something insane every night basically except for like a couple of of um a couple of exceptions, um that she takes him to a four movie ah ra ah chick flick marathon, um which gets him punched in the face because she's like, my boyfriend will beat you up to this guy who's telling her to shut up in the movie theater. Yep. um She goes to his apartment and puts like
00:34:41
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all these stuffed animals on the bed. She puts a pink toilet bowl cover on the toilet. She puts a bunch of like tampons and vagisil in his bathroom cabinet.
00:34:53
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Also, Charlie pointed out he he was laughing so hard whenever Matthew McConaughey opened the medicine cabinet. Because there's not just tampons and like vagicil and other stuff. But like she put in some like some pregnancy tests are in there. And some other like insane female things. Yeah, yeah. um Which It has been less than a week. um She tells him she loves him. She tells she's calling him her her boyfriend. Yeah, she gets the super to give him a key her key to his apartment. She buys him a dog. Yep. She names his penis Princess Sophia to which he's very offended. Yeah, which is misogyny. Obviously. it' like Obviously, I wrote penises can absolutely be named Princess Sophia. Of course.
00:35:44
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Matthew McConaughey. The only normal thing she does in this movie. ah
00:35:53
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The Knicks play like art is like the third character in this movie. Yes, it is. And they keep going. They go to this Knicks game and she makes him go get soda for her. Like right when she knows that there's going to be like this big, like, um, this shoot. I don't know. Let's play some basketball. It's right at the end of the game. It's right at the end of the end of the game. yeah So he misses the end of the game because he has to go get her soda and then he gets her quote unquote the wrong soda because she didn't specify she wanted diet. and He should have known. He should.
00:36:25
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known And then for like the next Knicks game, he makes her this like huge rack of lamb with like a cherry glaze. And she she does what Emma and Katie really understand and sympathize with, starts crying immediately and singing Mary Had a Little Lamb. Yeah.
00:36:46
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But here's the thing, say she's not she's not a vegetarian because earlier that day she's eating a burger and complaining that the bacon is not on it. The thing is that they are compatible and she's pretending to be a person who's not. She she loves the Knicks, she's obsessed with the with basketball and she knows all the players and and how they and and what their strengths and weaknesses are. she When she takes them to that vegetarian restaurant, she sneaks into the kitchen to watch the game with the the the the cooks on the line. yeah Um, so she is like, she's, she's making all this stuff up. So it's not like they're not actually compatible. She's just fucking with him throughout the entire movie. Yeah. Um, then we get to our climax, which is where he invites her to a weekend at his parents in Long Island.
00:37:37
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At Staten Island sorry Staten Island Staten Island not Long Island It's sort of a Hail Mary because it comes after she tries her final insane attempt by being insane in front of all of his friends at the poker game and like storming out. She thinks that she's broken up with him. She thinks that this has worked. And then he's like, his two coworkers are like, you can't lose this account, man. We really want to be a part of this diamond campaign. Go get your girl. Yeah.
00:38:09
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um Thomas Lennon ah goes, um every time my wife wants to divorce me, I tell i i tell her about a marriage, I talk her into going to marriage counseling, that'll last you four days at least. And then the other guy goes, his wife hates him. Cracked me up.
00:38:30
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Oh man, like couples therapy, couples therapy. So then they go to yeah couples therapy um with Catherine Hahn pretending to be the therapist.
00:38:41
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ah huh and And that's when he's he um sort of brings up that they should spend the weekend with his parents. um And so they go and she meets his family and she really likes everyone. And she starts to really sort of get shit yeah She acts normal. Yeah. yeah and she And that's when she falls for him when she meets his yeah parents. because And it doesn't actually say she doesn't have a family, but it is heavily implied yeah because like the way that she reacts to his mother like welcoming her and everything, um I think we we get that sense. I don't know if there was anything cut about her family, but there's no mention of her family at all in the movie. so
00:39:22
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Well, and then she has that sort of breakdown in in the bathroom um before they do it. And she's like crying. And that's when she like admits like the way that his mom hugged her, the way that sort of like just being around the family, it's just sort of like, makes it really emotional. It's all in sort of undertones. Yeah, yeah. And then they have sex at his parents house. Yeah, which I'm like, that's a choice.
00:39:47
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I mean, sometimes the mood strikes you. They don't appear to be home. It's hard to say because they went on a motorcycle drive and she he taught her how to to um to drive his motorcycle, which would work on me.
00:40:01
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and they get back to his parents' house and have shower sex at his parents' house, which is double trouble, really. Like, very adventuresome for for the first time. Yeah. Boy oh boy, are you risking a lot of things there, especially because that house is stacked with people. Like, you've got so many people in that house. True, yeah. It's implied that that is a very full house. Yeah, Uncle Arthur's there. Yep, and he's farting all over the place. Charlie kept losing it any time Uncle Arthur was on screen.
00:40:35
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Really? He thought it was so funny. That's sweet. It's very sweet. It's very sweet. ah I did write for whenever the very first Knicks game I wrote, let's play some basketball. Yeah. Yeah, the Knicks in the and NBA Finals is a through line of this of this movie. And Do we find out if they win or not? I think it's no, because it's- We don't find out. It's still in the future, yeah. Yeah, because they're supposed to go- Dangling thread. Yeah, they were supposed to go to the last game together. Yeah. But then we get to the big gala, which is at day 10. So they get back from his parents' house after having sex for the first time. She's acted normal. She's falling for him. He, you know,
00:41:29
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yeah It's implied that he's also falling for her because she's now. Oh, totally. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. She's now acting normal. They really get on and um he goes to pick her up and we get our iconic, iconic yellow dress.
00:41:47
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Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. The the whitest sweater that's ever sweated. Oh, Kate Hudson Hudson's yellow dress at the backless yellow dress at the diamond gala. Yeah. The back goes almost to her butt crack. Like if she were to bend down, you'd see crack. yeah There is no way but she doesn't bra. Yeah, she doesn't. There's no she's not wear underwear. There's no underwear in there.
00:42:14
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ah It is an underwear free, undergarments free gown. Yeah. And it's gorgeous. It's absolutely wonderful. She looks amazing. Extremely iconic ah rom-com um dress in yeah in all of rom-coms, yes. Yes.
00:42:31
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Yellow dress, yellow dress. So yeah, we get to the gala, and of course, we have to have our conundrum, we have to have our misunderstanding, we have to like throw some more wrenches into this fire. Well, it's not a misunderstanding, it's an understanding. Oh yeah, so it's the opposite. An understanding.
00:42:51
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Oh i right, I forgot we had a misunderstanding jingle. Misunderstanding, misunderstanding, misunderstanding alert. So I guess it's understanding, understanding, understanding. I just start, I'm sounding like Sondheim more and more at the end. Sondheim, that's exactly what I thought, yeah. Thanks to Steven Sondheim for writing the misunderstanding slash understanding alert jingle. Yep, yep. Props, props to ah to Stevie. RIP.
00:43:16
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But ah so we get there and of course, B.D. Newworth is there because as we learned earlier in the movie, the ad agency is doing a major diamond campaign that's going to be in composure magazine. yeah So that is how we all tie together and you get um the lesbians like throw in some like trying to shake things up because they still really want this diamond account. So they tell the two best friends of Matthew McConaughey a dufaces the We've got some we've got the lesbians. We've got the doofuses. Yeah. Yes. And the doofuses believe the lesbians that Andy knows and he is aware of the bet. And so they're just like and so they go up to Andy and they go just please can you like not not tell
00:44:06
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Yeah, they ruin it. Yeah, that you know, just like pretend like you don't know. And so she's starting to understand at the same time you get Phoebe Newark, who cluelessly is walking along with Matthew McConaughey flirting with him. And then ah him, he makes a gesture of like, excuse me, I've got a girl to yellow dress to go see. She goes, Oh, that's my how to girl. And then she just starts word vomiting about the article and realizes at the very end of her word vomit that she's talking to the subject of said article. Yeah. And she goes, oh. So they both find out at the same time, which is ah it's neat. That's that's an that's a neat. I mean, like an orderly way to to to do that. Writing wise and neat. And it's also neat.
00:44:56
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ah
00:45:02
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You need him both ways. Yes. Marvin Hamlish is there. ah Why? Pulitzer Prize and EGOT winner Marvin Hamlish, R.I.P., is part of the musical entertainment at the Diamond Gala. Not just part, he is the musical entertainment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're like, maybe he'll play some classic songs for us. Nope. Instead.
00:45:29
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Kate Hudson in the first actual act of insanity that she does in the movie that's not yeah intended intentional um steals the microphone and forces Matthew McConaughey says that he he's going to sing for everyone. Then he doubles back on her and says it's a duet. And then they scream saying you're so vain at one another.
00:45:54
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ruining the gala, forcing Marvin Hamlisch to play. He goes, that's not one of my songs. And he goes, you can do it, Marty. Or Marvin or whatever his name is. Yeah. The the only person that's enjoying this is Mrs. Deneers. Which is the only person that matters. Luckily.
00:46:10
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Yeah, exactly. It's the only person that matters because Mrs. Deneers, she controls Mr. Deneers who controls the diamond wealth of this diamond industry. And she is horny as fuck for Matthew McConaughey. Which I mean, understandable. Yeah, let's be real. Yeah, absolutely.
00:46:34
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Um, yeah, they sing. Yeah, they sing. You're so vain. She gets upset. She storms out. She's still got the diamond necklace on. Yeah. Yeah. And so security has to run after her, which is great because at that moment, Charlie yells, what about the necklace? Have you not seen this movie?
00:46:51
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This is the first time Charlie's watch has ever seen it. So wow it was really given Charles a rom-com education. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, luckily, I will spoil Charlie's corner right now. He did not compare this to the decoy bride. Thank thank God. Yeah.
00:47:09
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he He really enjoyed it. He really, really enjoyed it. he I think he even used two reales in his wow yeah really, really enjoyable. That's strong praise from Charles Blunt. And it is. like just movie This movie's great. It's super charming.
00:47:27
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It's very funny. um It's sweet. Their chemistry is great. It seems like they, you know, really like working with each other. You get so many rom com tropes in this and some of them are like repeated tropes from previous rom coms. Others. I feel like, you know, it feels like it's created. I couldn't name them.
00:47:49
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but it feels like it came from this movie because this movie gave so much to the rom-com genre um but you get you know they say the name of the movie in the movie you get the classic rom-com jobs you you get some basketball sure it's it i mean like this is the second sports related rom-com that uh that we've watched after um uh said it out. Oh, I was going to say. Oh, John Tucker must die. Yeah. John Tucker must die is basketball. John Tucker must die. There was basketball. Um, uh, the Melissa Joan Hart one, there was basketball. Oh wow. Yeah. You're right. The high school ones are going to have sports in them usually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, we got basketball. We got, um,
00:48:42
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We got the air running to the airplane scene. We got a run literally running to the airport, literal airport scene. So um she runs out with the with the diamond necklace. He talks to her. She's so mad at him, which is kind of crazy that they're mad at each other because like um to both of them that you were doing the same thing like yeah But they just liked because you end receiving it. Oh, exactly. Yeah. And a lot of rom coms, only one person is deceiving the other one. And it's usually the man. Yeah. So this is it's a it's a little different in the facts that they are that they're both pulling something on the other. So they're a little bit more on equal footing.
00:49:20
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Um, she writes the article, uh, you know, she, she, he's, he's like, well, you good. You lost me, which, you know, classic. It's like the title. Um, and he leaves. She's got the comeback. She's got the comeback line. She's got the comeback line, which is so great. She go, he says, um, well, you've lost me. And she goes, funny thing is you can't lose something you never had. Yeah. Boom, baby. Yeah.
00:49:48
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And because here's the thing, she is also our protagonist, like, yeah and most rom coms, we either follow the one character or the other. um And I think that in some rom coms, it's kind of like it's it's really kind of split when Harry Met Sally is pretty split between the two of them. I think it's probably Harry's movie, if you had to pick one.
00:50:11
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um This one is, I think it's it's split toward her. Like we know, even though we meet his family, I think we know more about her and it's kind of centered on her. Yeah. She goes, she they go home, she writes the article. Bebe Neworth was like, well, that's not what I expected, but you can write about whatever you can write about whatever you want. She's like, oh, thank God. She's like, as long as it's about shoes or laser therapy or et cetera. And she's like, you know what? I quit.
00:50:39
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And then we see Matthew McConaughey and he's on set at the diamond thing, so he they both got what they wanted. yeah um The diamond campaign he comes up with is Frost Yourself, which is so bad.
00:50:57
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And the commercial is so fucking bad. It is so bad. It look does look a little bit like a diamond commercial. I mean, some of those diamond commercials, especially from the 90s, are absurd.
00:51:10
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But I mean, like, it looks like a diamond commercial for like a local jewelers, not like a diamond conglomerate. Yeah. Do you remember those De Beers commercials where it was just, it was like shadows with the diamonds on them? yeah Yeah. With a diamond on them. Oh my yeah God. Yeah. They're tacky. um They're bad people. Yeah. Child slavers. Every kiss begins with K.
00:51:37
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I would like to point out that I am i not calling Kay Jewelers child slavers. They are a jewelry company who I'm sure has also done some bad things, but the- Probably, but we don't know. Diamond Cartel allegedly uses child slavery um to mine diamonds, allegedly don't sue us. How was that? That was great, that was great. Thanks, thanks. Perfectly neutral.
00:52:06
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Oh, wait, sorry, you're the lawyer here. Oh, that's right.
00:52:13
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I got my law degree at the Good Wife University.
00:52:19
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um So Matthew McConaughey is on set. And then one of the doofuses is like, you need to read this article. And he's like, I'm not gonna read it. And he's like, No, seriously, read it. And then we skim over it. And we see from the poll quotes and everything. She's like, but I really like a screwed up because I fell for this guy. And no matter what I did, he was still like, etc, etc, etc. And I'm leaving the magazine. yeah And so he Oh, and and so here's the thing, like she gives him the go get your girl speech, which does which is a little unusual, but it does show up in rom coms kind of frequently the the essay or the voicemail or the thing that
00:53:01
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um that convinces the person that we have to be together, like I have to run and get you right now. The Go Get Your Girl speech can come from a third source. In this case, it's her own writing herself.
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00:53:15
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Which is very similar to Never Been Kissed. Exactly, yeah. It's the the work that she was doing ends up being the Go Get Your Girl speech. And um so he runs to her office with the love fern.
00:53:29
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and finds her friends, including Catherine Hawn. He's like, you're not a therapist. You owe me 300 bucks. um And they're like, she's on her way to the airport. She's looking for a job, and she's going to go job interview in DC. And so he gets on his motorcycle and chases down the cab and on a bridge, which I guess is the Queensborough Bridge. I would have to i would have to look at it again if she's going to LaGuardia. laguardia Yeah, but it's hard to say. um And they pull over on the side of the bridge the bridge during construction. And they have this, they have the conversation where they, so there's a callback to them playing bullshit, the card game or BS, as you know my family called it, um where she's like, no, I don't i don't care. And I'm going, you know he's like, you're running away. She's like, I'm not running away from anything. And he's like, bullshit.
00:54:25
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um And she's like, and then they make out. The end. yeah Again, would work on me. However, some of his speech I didn't like, I will say um some of his... It's still pretty cocky.
00:54:44
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Yeah, there were several times that I was just like, oh, bro, get over yourself. but you It's the McConaughey of it all. Yeah, exactly. and Like, it was specifically the line of like, um, why are you going to Washington? Where are you going? She's going, I'm going to Washington, DC. I have a job interview. And he goes, Where are you going? Why? And she goes, I can't write what I want here. They it's there that I can write what I want, what I'm interested in. And he goes, No, no, no, you're not listening to me.
00:55:14
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where are you going? And it's just sort of like him calling her want to go on this job interview bullshit. And maybe she did actually part of her wanted to go on this job interview. I mean, here's the thing, like, I know, no, we don't because I can't imagine she's going to get a job at like the Washington Post or something. I just don't i don't see that based on what we know of her and of her writing. mate It's hard to say. It's always hard to depict something that's supposed to... It's hard to depict
00:55:48
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art, especially in a movie that's supposed to be good. You know, like we talked about this in the idea of you, where like, usually if like a character is an artist or a writer or something or a filmmaker, it's hard, like, and you see an example of their work, it's so hard for a movie to get right, like this is supposed to be really good.
00:56:08
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So in the in the in the idea of you, it's it's they they do a really good job because they have those paintings and the paintings are gorgeous. um Yeah. And but in this, we don't see her writing really. And we don't we we see like a few paragraphs of it. And it is. Yeah, it it is not convinced us that she is a thoughtful political writer that is going to be able to to to do that. So but I don't think the movie knows that. And I but I think that the idea of going to Washington, D.C. to to be a journalist and you can't be a journalist in New York, which is a much bigger city. yeah like There's plenty of journal, it in 2003 at least, yeah magazines are king baby, like you can write for anybody. Printed media is on the rise. Yeah, that star is never gonna fall.
00:57:00
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right This movie did, oh, sorry. But he's so douchey, it doesn't, like, yeah's that's not him that's not what, that's not how it it reads in the movie at all, yeah. Yeah, yeah. There were moments in this movie, like, with Andy's storyline, and obviously rewatching it now from, um if you remember, back around 2016, 2017, you know, when America was in a hellscape, and a different- It's no different from right now. i Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:31
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but when hard to imagine what that must have been like. So hard to imagine. ah How do I put my brain back there? When Teen Vogue started doing political pieces, and like they were one of the like legit pete like neutral, honest, fact-checked political pieces that you could find was coming from Teen Vogue. And I remember being so shocked, like, what the hell? And part of me, as I was watching it now, it's like, this is what would happen if Andy was given, I mean, if she was as talented, was given the ability, is that pipeline, is that she's the girl who started doing political articles for Teen Vogue.
00:58:10
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Yeah, I mean, and and but here's the thing, but like regular Vogue does that and regular Cosmo does that. I mean, not always, but they I mean, Vogue more than Cosmo, for sure. But Vogue definitely has serious journalism in it. um And, you know, Teen Vogue is for children. um So I think that's that's that's why it was ah that's why it was a little bit more surprising to see that when that happened. But yeah, absolutely did. And it was good.
00:58:33
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Yeah, it was good writing. It was great articles. and But yeah, totally. It's hard not to think about about that. Yeah. Yeah. Um, anyway, so that's how to lose a guy in 10 days. i I mean, it's pretty, pretty classic rom com, formulaic, funny, well made money well spent. Go watch it.
00:59:03
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Yeah, it's it's ah it's a banger. um It's definitely in the in the pantheon of the rom-com classics, for sure. Absolutely. um What movie are we doing next week, Katie? Oh, hold on. I wanted i wanted to see if there was anything. Oh, um he he chases her down to the airport ah with the the gin blossoms playing, which is an odd choice. This song was a decade old when the movie came out. So I don't know where that came from. But I mean, it's a good song. Follow you down. If someone played Firework. Yeah, it would be a weird choice.
00:59:39
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They play firework all summer at work, and it's weird every time you hear it. It's like, why was this song a hit exactly? um Because it is catchy as hell. Because baby, you're a firework. Do you ever feel like a plastic bag? Constantly.
01:00:00
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sheet I would like to point out a couple of other insane things that she did. she um she photoshopped pictures of them together to make fake images of their children and a family album to give to him to see this is what our children would look like one day. Here they are in Switzerland. Yep. And not only that, but like she consulted his mom on it and his mom was totally cool.
01:00:29
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Yeah, yeah, his mom. His mom was down to clown with the Photoshop. Well, I mean, and like, he's a player who never dates anybody for long. And this, this is like the first girlfriend that they'd ever met of his. So I imagine his mom was like, excited that he was seeing somebody. Yeah. The, um the four movies that are playing at the, slight the quote, chick flick marathon are Sleepless in Seattle, Fried Green Tomatoes, Mystic Pizza, and When Harry Met Sally.
01:00:57
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So you're two for four so far. Two for four. I'm covering the movies at the Chick-Flick Festival. It's like, we haven't done Sleepless in Seattle? No, we haven't. No, we haven't. We have not done Sleepless in Seattle. We totally can. And we can talk about how Meg Ryan is legitimately insane in that movie. And you should run away from her because that is stalking behavior. Run away from Megs. Yes.
01:01:23
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Uh, yeah, I think that's about all I've got, yeah. I mean, no matter what you name a man's penis, asking in a baby voice if he wants to come out to play is terrifying. I mean, how do you ask your penide you party with to come out and play? Not like that.
01:01:48
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Whether his name is Princess Sophia or Kroll, the the the warrior king, you don't say that's Kroll, the warrior young king will not come out and play.
01:02:01
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buts That's terrifying. I will say, I will say, have you read Tessa Bailey's Runaway Girl or Getaway Girl? No. And here's the thing, I'm going to cut this out. But like, you know, in an episode like four or five episodes ago, when we were talking about romance, what and i said bay I said there's this author who writes a book every month and I can't stand her. It's Tessa Bailey. Yeah. I thought you loved it happened one summer. No.
01:02:27
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Oh, I read that because I thought you said that it was great. I think that I said I bought it and hadn't read it. Maybe I told you because no, I didn't even finish that book. Yeah. Oh, I read it. And then I i read the sequel. And then Oh, and did you like it? I mean, they're fun. And romcomy and super fucking horny. Yeah, the the the sex scenes are good. But the books are kind of uninteresting, I think. Yeah.
01:02:54
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I mean, the set the sequels, it would happen one summer. It's about her sister. It's about her sister and it's actually really good. It's actually really emotional. If you say so. I got a, um yeah, because i I tried to read that and I tried to read another one and I didn't finish any of them. And then I got one of the crip like christmas what of Christmas books, which is about songwriters. And it's like they're trying to write like songs together because they worked together in a band years ago or something. It's like a second chance. It doesn't matter.
01:03:21
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yeah Um, it was so fucking boring. And it's like, I have, I have a soft spot in my heart for songwriting. It's one of the reasons why I think it's like Sing Street is one of my favorite movies. Like when they like start writing a song together in Sing Street, or once, or or begin again, any of that guy's movies. yes like That is exactly what writing a song is like. That is so true, put on film, and it makes me cry. When those kids are writing songs together in Sing Street, I cry every fucking time. Because like i've you know I was in bands in high school, I was in bands in college, I you know have written musicals with people, and like collaborating and writing a song is very, very important to me, and that movie does it so fucking well.
01:03:59
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Yeah. Um, I imagine the Tessa Bailey book did not do it well. No, it did not. No, not there's also, oh my God, there's another one. There's this, um, what is her name? What is her name? I don't remember her name, but the, uh, the name of the book is Delilah Green doesn't care. And then it's a lesbian rom-com. Um, it's really good. And there's a sequel. There's three of them. I don't know. There's two sequels, which are all set in the same, you know, small town with related characters.
01:04:27
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and um And they're all lesbian rom-coms. They're very cute. The second one is... doesn't matter. They're all somebody doesn't do something. That's the the title convention. Yeah, the third one is about an actor. And it is set in a um ah production of I think it's much to do about nothing. And ah that that this mother they're putting up with a small town and she's but she's trying to go to New York to get cast in like bigger roles and stuff. And this movie, this movie, this book so fundamentally misunderstands how theater works.
01:05:02
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It's in it's embarrassing. It's so hard to read. But I mean, like, that's a it's a niche thing that like you and I happen to know about and would upset us reading it. But most people would not know. Most people would not understand that getting cast at the Delacorte Theatre in a Shakespeare in the Park production. She. So.
01:05:27
Speaker
What happens is like this whole thing, like this director who she worked with a long time ago comes up and is like, I want to cast you, a completely unknown actor, as the lead role in Shakespeare in the Park, in New York, i like the Public Theater, Delacorte Theater, Shakespeare in the Park, in this this summer. Rehearsals start absurdly late. You can get there, like and I want, hold on, I want you to help me cast the rest of it.
01:05:53
Speaker
ah to What? that's an HR violation. And also like they cast famous people in the Shakespeare in the Park shows. like That's how you get butts in seats. Yeah, I saw Jonathan Groff do ah hair in Shakespeare in the Park. Oh, so jealous. It was good. Oh, yeah, I bet. And then like the way that the rehearsal is running that is also hilariously off. like The director is like the person does not know what a director does in a stage production does not know how rehearsal for a the and like seemingly did no research. So yeah, um yeah. Other than that, like it's still cute. And I see'll I'll read her next book, which is a new series that she's starting. But like, she just didn't do any research on on how theater works. And it's very funny.
01:06:44
Speaker
Well, I was gonna say in Getaway Girl, um because I listen to these on ah books on tape. That makes me feel old. um i I'm cutting all of this out, Emma. You can say whatever you want. I listen to them on tape and at like 1.15 speed. And um it's also the only way I can handle those Katie Roberts books.
01:07:06
Speaker
And then you slow it down for the sex scenes or no? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but like there's so much like baby talk and like dirty talk and like it was so cringy because you have to like hear the like the ah voice actors do the like, Oh, it's so bad.
01:07:26
Speaker
Oh God, no, I can't. That's why, oh God, a shiver went down my spine. That's why I can't do the audio books of that stuff. Like, Caitlin's sister like listens to almost everything. Like she listened to all the Akatar books, audio, like, and i i'm I'm not comfortable enough with my sexuality to do that, I guess is the answer. Like, I don't want to hear somebody do it. What? Like there are moments somewhere where I'm just like,
01:07:55
Speaker
and like not even like in a like a hot way it's just sort of like like I just I also have this thing like I don't like it when grown men call women baby or um baby like ah maybe it's because my my granddad used to call me baby girl so I like have it as like that's a grandpa thing For sure, for sure. But like while they're doing it so many times, it happened when somebody was just like, oh, yeah, you like that baby girl, you like that baby. And I'm like, oh, no. Yeah. That's uncomfy. Yeah. Maybe I will keep this in.
01:08:35
Speaker
I don't know. It's cute. Do you want do you want me to cut it? If you want me to cut it out, I'll cut it out. No, no, no. It's cute. It's cute. OK. OK. I'll cut the name out. I'll cut the name of the author out. Yeah, yeah because we don't need to be sued. Well, I mean, no, we're allowed to have an opinion about the author. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Yeah, we absolutely are. You hear that testimony?
Episode Conclusion and Next Film Announcement
01:08:58
Speaker
We can't say we can't say that De Beers are like objectively like used child slaves. That would be they that could they could potentially sue us for
01:09:10
Speaker
<unk>er libel I think it's libel, because this is like, because recorded audio. Yeah, so true. Yeah, doesn't matter. Anyway, so what movie are we doing next week, Katie? Um, I have no idea. Um, let's do let's do an old one. Let's do Oh my gosh, let's do four weddings and a funeral.
01:09:36
Speaker
Yeah, a classic. Another classic. Another classic. Amazing. Beautiful. Thank you for listening to Go Get Your Girl. If you like us, tell your friends and please rate interview us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It helps out a lot and we would really appreciate it. Thanks to Andrew Milken and Nyx Fabota for our theme music and Elena Henderson for our artwork. You can follow us on Instagram at gogetyourgirlpod.com. You can follow us on Instagram at go get your girl pod or email us at go get your girl pod at gmail.com. You can follow me on social media at Emily and pizza and me at Katie of the lake until next time. We're just two girls standing in front of the internet asking it to love us. to Love us. Good night. Good night.