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Ep. 213 – The UnitedHealthcare (p)0rn Parody Starring Splooge McCuck
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This week we’re hanging out and discussing some the holidays, some big personal developments, and the ongoing insanity that is our news cycle. This is a bit of a “relaxed fit” episode, but it was fun to catch up after a week off. Enjoy the show and have a happy new year!
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Banter and Beginnings
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Speaker
That's crazy to me when people accidentally have children. I've been so good at not accidentally having kids my whole life You've been pretty good at it too Casey, I'm proud of you Yeah, we know what we're doing yeah Abstinence ah We just do hand stuff
00:00:39
Speaker
Hey, everybody, we are back with another episode of Growing Up Christian. I'm Sam. I'm Casey. And we took last week off. We took Christmas week off Christmas on a Thursday. We weren't going to try to get shit out. Actually, we were going to try to get shit out, but we had to reschedule with some really fun friends ah that I'm working on getting back on for after the holidays because the holidays are a terrible time to try to.
00:01:02
Speaker
schedule things with people but uh we decided that we weren't gonna go out of our way to try to put something out we took the week off and maybe that's only our second time taking a week off in four fucking years of this thing dude i think it might be yeah maybe once or twice so pretty wild uh so you're welcome for four years of unrelenting unasked for content Yeah, this is our we just said our four year anniversary.
Podcasting Journey and Community Reflection
00:01:33
Speaker
I know I was thinking it doesn't. It's weird that ah that felt weird. ah It's I think of even it made me think a little bit about how much I feel like I've changed over four years from when we started this to now.
00:01:48
Speaker
Yeah, it it's ah I don't know. I guess I don't really know what to say about it. It's just it's it's weird that we've been doing these conversations with various people for four years. And I still it's weird that I've i've liked doing anything this long. I feel like I don't like doing things for more than a regular amount. of Like it once it becomes like a regular part of my life, ah as fun as it is at the start, sometimes regularly scheduled things become a huge inconvenience, ah but this has not. I still truly enjoy it, which is why we're still doing it because it's it's not the money that's ah bringing us back in. There's no money in involved. It's been very fun. I feel like the people that we've met through the podcast have
00:02:41
Speaker
I don't know, it's just crazy. Like some of the conversations we've got to have and some of the friends we've made along the way, you know, both people who are guests and then people like, um, you know, we got like such a good group of people in the discord now that are really fun to talk to and stuff and have a lot of interesting things that come
Podcast Reach vs. Church Influence
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Speaker
up. Um, I think we, I i don't know the official numbers, but I think we had at this point, we've got over half a million.
00:03:08
Speaker
downloads over that time period, which is just crazy to think about. I know. It's weird that more people have listened to this and like any church I ever, and like listen to any pastor of any church I ever attended. Like you think of pastors speaking to like a couple hundred people, a few hundred, 400, 500 people a week. You're like, that's crazy.
00:03:29
Speaker
And you're like, we actually we we just don't see the people that we're speaking to. But it's it's funny to think that, you know, we've we've had more reach than most of the churches we've been a part of in our in our lives. I think that's weird. It's gratifying. It is. And if we feel like we're doing like listen to ever. What? So there's plenty of people i've I've sat through that I hope no one has to ever listen to. I know.
Empathy and Personal Reflections
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Speaker
I just found out that my ah the pastor of my church, my my formative years church, is I think he has Alzheimer's or... uh dementia but he's not apparently he doesn't know who anybody is anymore and stuff like that and i was like oof no i don't think he was a good guy but i was like oh at least there's still some spark left in me of being like a good person because i go ah i felt sad when i received that information and i think a lot of people in our shoes are like you you got what was coming. like you know people don't People don't have a lot of patience or sympathy for ah pastors with bad ideas anymore. ah So I felt like I reconnected with my humanity for a moment when I felt a bit of sadness over that. You're a great fella. Yeah, I try.
00:04:47
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I guess so.
Santa Fe Impressions and Encounters
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Speaker
i i had an excel so over the Over the past weekend, we went to New Mexico for a couple of days just to kind of get out. There's been a bunch of stuff going on at work, so I was just like, I just want to get out of here for a couple of days and just be somewhere else.
00:05:05
Speaker
You're like, it's the holidays. Family's like, let's do stuff. And you're like, we're going to go to the middle of nowhere in New Mexico. We left the day after Christmas. We did the Christmas thing. But so we we went and stayed in Santa Fe.
00:05:21
Speaker
which is Santa Fe is a hilarious place. It's capital New Mexico, obviously. New Mexico is a very poor state, you know? And ah I don't know where it ranks on the list, but it's it's a pretty poor state. There's not a ton of economic activity there. It's awesome. Like it's super cool. In fact, I've kind of decided that that New Mexico is basically Southwest Virginia. It's the same sort of situation where it's like South,
00:05:51
Speaker
South of West Virginia or Southwest of Virginia? Both. It's like, it's like West Virginia in the Southwest space. Okay. Very similar, where it's like a beautiful landscape, amazing things to see there, towns and stuff. Yeah, not so great. But Santa Fe is the kind of towns you drive through and you go, what do people do here?
00:06:16
Speaker
Like, I remember driving through some like, when I was going to North Carolina, I mentioned driving through some towns in Virginia to like avoid traffic on the major highway and you're like, this is this town is seven, seven streets, I think. And don't know what there is to do here, but people live here and there seems like there might even be a school.
00:06:38
Speaker
It's yeah, it's just you imagine that like the only jobs in the area are still like breaking rocks with a pickaxe. Yeah, a coal mine. I was like, it does it have coal mine? Is this a mining town? I don't know what a mining town really looks like, but ah based on everything I've seen in movies, this certainly feels like one. Yeah, like a motorized cart would destroy 400 jobs.
00:07:01
Speaker
yeah A would take half that, you know. But like new Santa Fe is like kind of like a nicer town. And it's historical. You know, there's a lot of cool buildings and stuff there. and But it is it is populated by yuppie boomers. And they're all in there like like Yellowstone, ah turquoise, jewelry, mom cosplay. Oh, yeah. Like it's that's what it is.
00:07:35
Speaker
And it's hilarious, dude. Everybody looks like Larry and Larry or Lloyd and Harry on Dumb and Dumber when they're in Aspen. They're like parading around in the big cowboy hat, like the 10 gallon hats and stuff. And ah we so we' we're like walking around and we're just kind of people watching, which is super fun. And ah I saw it just the most amazing gay couple I've i've ever seen.
00:08:02
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they They were fascinating to me. I was like, I just want to know these guys. like Two old, the two old guys. I mean, they're like sixties at least, right? One's black and one's white.
00:08:17
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and they are in full-scale like like cowboy outfits. I mean, floor-length leather duster, hat, handkerchiefs. it's I mean, they seem to look like some sort of like cowboy stage show or something, and they're like walking around downtown window shopping together with coffee in their hands. But meanwhile, it look like it's straight off of, like I don't know, ah ah like a dude ranch or something.
00:08:46
Speaker
And I was like, it was gay or broke back mountain. Yeah, it was it was it was perfection, really. It was everything that I like perfectly gay. They were Santa Fe in a nutshell. And I love them. I wish I could have talked to them because they were so cool. ah You should have invited them on the podcast.
00:09:08
Speaker
It would have been hilarious. That's why we need cards. That's why we need cards. In situations like that, like, I don't know you. I don't know your background. None of that matters. I need to talk to you. You need to know, how did you get here? Yeah. And where did these clothes come from?
Homelessness and Societal Complexities
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yeah it's It's the journey that we're interested in. so ah But talking about like being a scumbag of a person, you you are a person that has like a lot of empathy. I think that is like you in a nutshell. If I had to think of like who's the most empathetic people in my life, it's probably Sam, unless we're talking about the military.
00:09:48
Speaker
yeah yeah You have a ton of empathy for everyone except for soldiers and cops. ah yeah yeah And even still, there's ah that that only goes so far. Conceptually, sure. ah But when I meet individual people and know their stories, and ah that can change things quickly. and so i i don't know you know Occasionally, we've talked about like homelessness and homeless people and stuff. and You are a lot more like you're you're a lot more empathetic than I feel. like I feel very inconvenienced by them a lot of times.
00:10:28
Speaker
And it's, I think like what I've been trying to think about is how homelessness is broken down in a few days. Like there's, there's the broad category and then there's groups like family homelessness I know is up tremendously over the past like year and stuff, which is horrible. Right. The homeless that I interact with are like.
00:10:48
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Like whacked out junkies at quick trip yeah like they have they have a hard time being housed in a good economy is what you're saying. Yeah like the people of the street for sure. like There's a certain degree of homeless like there's a lot of homelessness that's dependent on ah on the economy.
00:11:08
Speaker
And then there's a ah level of homelessness that is like you burned all of your bridges so many times ah and you are unable to maintain gainful employment due to probably addiction issues. like It doesn't matter like how cheap rent is, you're probably still going to be homeless, kind of homeless. Yeah, it's ah it's ah it's a lifestyle you're kind of accustomed to.
00:11:31
Speaker
So day day two in Santa Fe, I wake up. I've talked about it before. It's a lame subject, but I get migraines, you know, and when I get them, Mommy, my head hurts. yeah I feel lame every time I talk about it, which is way too often. and But like, I just if I get one, I just throw up all day. Like that's what I do. It's not even so much that I have like a really bad splitting headache. I just throw up.
00:12:01
Speaker
all day so i wake up on the second day on saturday and we were planning on like going up to this area to look for you know minerals and stuff and uh i had a headache took some medicine i thought this is going to go away i'm not going to let this ruin the day like let's go so we take off driving And the you know the place we're going is like an hour and a half away. So it's a drive. And I'm i'm like nodding off and stuff. So then April has to drive. And ah we get to like this first little like town. It's like on the north end of Albuquerque, which is where we were going to turn to go north.
00:12:40
Speaker
And, uh, I'm just feeling terrible, you know? So we pull into this gas station and I'm like, like looking around and everywhere that we went there, it's, you know, like you go certain places and all of the bathrooms are locked. Like you have to go get a code or a key and it sucks. It's really annoying.
00:13:01
Speaker
And I feel like I feel like I'm going to throw up and I'm like, i I can't go in. I don't know if I can make it to the bathroom in there. Like, I don't know if it's going to be locked or somebody's in there. I'm just, I'm going to pull back here in this like secluded area behind this gas station where there's nobody there. And um mean I'm going to, I'm going to throw up all over the ground.
00:13:24
Speaker
So I pull off I pull over there I kind of look around i I get out of the truck and I'm just like hurling my guts out like one hand on my truck and just like but just like puking all over the ground one hand on your truck the other hand on your truck nuts it's comforting they feel cool on your skin you know Just for the porcelain I'm like just Spitting and hacking and whatnot and I'm like trying to wipe my face off as if I hear like Hey, sir. Hey, sir. It was the gay couple wasn't yeah They're like damn dude, this guy knows how to deep-throat a cock. I would have knows it's crazy, dude They're like we need to hang out with this guy
00:14:12
Speaker
This guy comes up, he's like, sir, sir. And I'm like spitting and he's, he's clearly like saw me throwing up all over as he's walking up. And I'm like, yeah, what? Yeah. And he's like, you feeling okay? I'm like, no, I'm just, just a little sick. It's all right. Obviously not. I have rabies. He goes, man, you feeling bad, huh? I'm like.
00:14:36
Speaker
Yes. Thank you. Thanks. Appreciate it. He goes, you from, you from Oklahoma? And I'm like, no, I'm from Kansas. And he's like, Oh, you like the chiefs? No, like what are we doing here? And I'm like, it's not like, I'm just like standing in a pile of throw up on the side of, in this parking lot. And I'm like, no, I don't, I don't follow. He goes, what about the Cowboys? I'm like, dude.
00:15:02
Speaker
No, I'm good. i Thank you. Thank you. And I'm like trying to get in my truck and like wiping my face and stuff. And he's like, Hey, oh, and then he starts going off on like, New Mexico and how you got to get accustomed to it. And, you know, he's like, laughing at the altitude attitudeitude is why I'm vomiting. What does this guy want? And finally, he's like, Hey, uh, can you can you give me some help here? And I'm like,
00:15:31
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. And so I start like pulling out my wallet and he's like, oh, thank you. God bless you, man. God bless you, man. God bless you. Hey, which way are you driving? And I'm like, no, absolutely not.
00:15:44
Speaker
And I'm like trying to get money out of my wallet and stuff. And he's like, I need to go this way. Can you take me this way? I've got to go to this thing. And I'm like, dude, I just want to get out of the interaction so bad. And I'm like, I'm like, just like, take the take the money and go like, why are you trying to talk? Like, have a conversation with me right now. And that's why I think homeless people should be ground into burger meat. He probably wasn't even homeless. I don't the what it take you like okay so I mean i I walked around Boston plenty of times in my life and you can't do that without walking by people who are begging for money I can't go to Worcester I can't stop at most intersections in Worcester without having panhandlers knock on my window it's very uncomfortable I don't carry cash really ever um there was a time in my life where I would be like I just ah if I have it I'll just give it to him like
00:16:44
Speaker
You know, I'll just, whatever, whatever they do with it, that's on them, not on me. I'm just doing what I can. I don't have those sentiments anymore. ah They're a little more nuanced, but I don't necessarily not believe in helping people, but panhandling is ah is frustrating. ah Cities constantly have the conversation about banning it, making it illegal.
00:17:06
Speaker
and that like I like the idea that people can't beg for money on an intersection while you're just trying to hit wait for that green light. and like it's not There's also problems with, you know, there's ah there's a segment of pain handlers that literally just do it because it actually does pay pretty good. um Yeah, like we have some of those in Wichita. Yeah, like you could actually get by panhandling and like just drifting. um So like people who are just drifters, sometimes there's like dirty hipsters that just panhandle and they're drifters.
00:17:38
Speaker
um So the actual like clean cut people that like they're never in an area where like ah a person that didn't have transportation and stuff would be like they're always like up in the like yuppie shopping district, you know where it's just Target and TJ Maxx and stuff and they the sometimes they'll bring their kids out there and it's like come I know I don't actually see that a lot like in like in the in the Worcester area like live in Worcester really specifically because Worcester area can be also very suburban but in Worcester it's um It's a sir. You just know which streets have the pain handler
00:18:17
Speaker
um and whatever you don't you could just look forward and not do anything it's fine but like it's always uncomfortable to a degree but then in cities talk about banning it and I go well I hate that idea because now it's illegal and the cops show up and arrest you for being poor and homeless like that pisses me off too um there's no good solution and there's no way to know that what you're doing matters and there's no way to fix it. It's something you just have to accept as a society that this is something that exists alongside you. yeah And you either give or you don't. ah and we it's like yeah we just have to It's funny how like the amount of length some people will go through to reduce discomfort, they're like, I have to do an errand through the city once a month and they made me feel weird, so maybe we should put them in prison. As opposed to like, maybe we should put them in strikes.
00:19:13
Speaker
ah that ah corner yeah I know it's crazy as opposed to like how about I just deal with this uncomfortable thing in like I can just deal with like what what what what is it that's going on where if I drive by a pain handler because I don't have two dollars in my wallet where I'm like I don't know. ah Maybe I should have like taken one of them to the bank like no dude. I remember in Virginia when I was living there. This is my most Christian. This is my most Jesus like the most ah if someone slaps you on the right cheek to turn to them the left
00:19:49
Speaker
era of my life where a woman I picked a woman up who was like desperately trying to get somewhere and do some shit didn't have money this or that so I went to the bank I took out like 20 bucks which was a lot for me back then I made $5.55 an hour and you know I wasn't doing great ah but I was like yeah sure I'll do this I bring the lady to where she wants to go and then I got in my head I'm like whatever that she told me a big-ass story And, uh, so the next couple of days I drove by where like she had me drop her off and I'm literally, I just drive by and I see her chilling with her, like, other friends. I'm like, that's the lady. That's the one I helped out. And then after like a few days, I'm like, I'm starting to believe nothing she told me was true. She lied to me about everything.
00:20:39
Speaker
Like that would be so hard for me to do. How do you just lie to people like that and take their money? And then I realized that that's actually America. That's, that is capitalism. That is America. That is everything that we want this country to be. Uh, and I actually, that's what I learned to appreciate her, her actual traditional conservative values.
00:20:59
Speaker
Yeah, so you just take that energy and channel it into selling a powder that makes you lose weight. Yeah. you know No, and listening to her man, she would actually like she would kill in MLM.
Financial Frustrations and Family Updates
00:21:13
Speaker
ah they She just needs to find the right like place, you know.
00:21:17
Speaker
I like the guys so like the retail area panhandlers here. like i've I've gotten pinched a couple of times by them, but there's one guy in particular that I like ah yelled at.
00:21:30
Speaker
He cornered me in my truck one day when I was talking to my grandma on the phone. It's like the twice a year that I talked to my grandma. and ah he he's This guy, he's like a middle-aged guy. He's in an area where there's no... It's like in a Buffalo Wild Wings parking lot. There's nothing around there. There's no reason why a person should be there if they're not... you know like It's not where a homeless person would be. and In a Buffalo Wild Wings parking lot, it feels like the perfect place, actually. okay Well, maybe.
00:22:01
Speaker
But he gave me like he's, you know, the the type of person who like they're telling you ah up a big story and they fill it with like unnecessarily minute details to like, lend it legitimacy.
00:22:17
Speaker
Yeah, you know, and he's like, I got, you know, I hate to bother you, but I got my car, my car is broken down. It's at such and such Hyundai dealer over here. And I'm waiting for them, but they're supposed to get it back to me today. But ah it's, you know, X number of dollars for the parts and it's X number of dollars for the labor and this and that and the other. it like got to the cent too Yeah, and I'm like, it's 742 35. You're like, I know I'm being lied to.
00:22:45
Speaker
It's like I'm on the phone and I'm just trying to like, okay, okay. Yeah. Okay. What, what do you, you know, and he's like, I just, you know, if anything you can spare, anything you can spare and stuff. And I like, so I pull out my wallet. It's like that situation where you go to reach for some money and all you have is a 20 and you're like, ah.
00:23:03
Speaker
Okay, here you go. So he leaves, no big deal, done, whatever. So like four months later, I'm i'm in town with April, we like got some Jimmy John's or something and we're like sitting in the car eating it and the same guy comes up to the window.
00:23:19
Speaker
And it's in a different place, but like same sort of thing like retail area and a girl down the window and he's like, I'm sorry to bother you, sir. I'm sorry to bother you, sir. But my my car is broken down. It's at touching such and such Hyundai dealership. i I'm just trying to get out of here. They're supposed to get it back. I mean, same story word for word, you know, and I'm like,
00:23:38
Speaker
and Right in the middle of it, I was like, time out. You told me this exact same story like four months ago, dude. He's like... He just runs so fucking fast. Dude, he just immediately gets hostile. He's like, I've never seen you before. I never told you that. You're a liar. Dude, I actually respect the shit out of this guy. You know why? Because what he's doing is 10 times harder than telemarketing and pays twice as much.
00:24:06
Speaker
good It's it's true. I so I'm um I'm I'm gonna be I'm trying to sell my house about to put my house on the market ah make some big moves and If I was trying to connect this and I did lose my train of thought and I'm really bothered by oh telemarketing so I did the pre-approval right, you know, you gotta to get pre-approved for a a mortgage or whatever the fuck so uh i did the pre-approval process the next day i my phone rang every five minutes every five minutes because my whole all my shit went into the fucking ether and everybody who works in this business of like selling predatory mortgage loans and interest rates yeah called me
00:24:53
Speaker
I was like, I woke up and I had like seven missed calls. And then I would like go to my phone. I'm like, five missed calls. And finally I start answering them, hostilely. I'm like, like, Hey, this is, how is this is Samuel. my Nobody calls me that. But yeah. And they're like, yeah, you applied for a mortgage. Like, who are you? And then they tell me, I go, I applied with such and such.
00:25:18
Speaker
You are not them, are you? And they go, no, no, we're we're not affiliated with them. I was like, then why are you calling me? Like, well, because you apply. I'm like, I applied with them, not you. I literally applied last night for pre-approval. I don't even have it yet. I'm not even pre-approved yet. And I've received 17 phone calls asking me the exact same thing. Whatever the fuck list my name is on, take me up. Do not call list the shit out of me, please.
00:25:48
Speaker
and they're like one the first woman I talked to when I was like I've gotten I've received 30 phone calls asking me the same question and she goes oh geez you get it you get it and you'll probably lose your job for showing empathy like that but you're like ma'am look I know this isn't your fault but I just need you to know how much I hate you. I hate you individually. You as a person. I know you're just trying to pay your bills and I don't care. No, because I've done that. I've done that job. Look, this isn't you. You're just sitting there with a headset on like I used to when I wanted to blow my brains out.
00:26:28
Speaker
Like you just really make them sad about it. And then I, but I was like, but I do it listening to that and then hearing your story about the guy just knocking on windows. That's the same exact shit. It's yeah just as predatory. It's arguably less.
00:26:46
Speaker
damaging to people's financial income, ah financial situations. Like that guy is less damaging than the people who are legally authorized to do what they're doing. And we go, that person makes me uncomfortable. And then we get a phone call. We're like, hello. Hi. Yes, I applied for a mortgage. Like, what are we doing? That's wild. Every day we careen a little closer to the abyss. We do. ah Unless you needed to continue your story, I have an announcement.
00:27:15
Speaker
and the along the lines of moving. um No, no, I'm good. New Mexico, awesome. ah Towns, not so much. Santa Fe, ah pretty lame except for the gay cowboys. Oh yeah, that's all we need to know. ah I'm selling my house or working on it. God, it's so hard moving. I hate moving. I wanted to die in this home.
00:27:41
Speaker
You want to give out your address in case they want to see the listing? I could give out. yeah You could look for it. Well, it hits the market. just you know I've given enough clues along the way where you can just jump on Zillow and probably find it. ah Recognize it by the ah the red room of pain in the ah in the in the basement.
00:28:01
Speaker
Well, you can recognize it because I have a neighbor who's completely psychotic. And if you're within a one mile radius of this place, you can hear him screaming out his windows at three zero in the morning. You can hear him in the, in the digital tour. i do yeah I have a neighbor who's in full-blown psychosis at this point and I do worry that ah when I start showing my house it'll be one of the days where he's screaming shirtless in the middle of the winter on his front lawn into the void.
00:28:31
Speaker
ah I've told Casey a lot of stories about this guy that I haven't been super comfortable getting into on the podcast, but it's been a two year nightmare. And he is at least 40 to 50% of the reason why I want to move. ah The other part of that is ah I'm having another kid.
00:28:52
Speaker
What? yeah ah Yeah. Yeah. Have another baby, baby. Wow. Congratulations. Yeah. I know you don't mean that because you hate children and you think it's crazy that anybody has them. I like children more than homeless children. I appreciate the way that you've practiced saying normal human things to people. And that alone shows that you care. And I love that. I am a salesman, so.
00:29:18
Speaker
And I have a new nephew. Hey, so you get it. Yes, I get it. Yeah. So I have another kid. My neighbor's very challenging to live near. i ah My house is small. When I bought it, it's basically a 1200 square foot raised ranch. When my foster son moved in, I finished the basement and put a room down there for him so he could stay with us comfortably because when he first moved in I my son and my daughter shared a room and I moved him into my son's room it was so cramped ah we finished the basement and that really helped but the space we have isn't really very usable I have a very small like you walk into my houses living room kitchen dining room no walls very small
00:30:03
Speaker
um bedrooms off the dining room side my bedrooms off the kitchen side it is it just everything feels cramped i have no room for anything i don't have enough room for people's shoes or their coats i don't i can't fit anything anywhere and it drives me insane um And now with having another kid on the way, I'm like, I can't, I can't cran cram more stuff in here. I know my foster son won't be living with us forever because he's 21 now. He's in doing really well in college and shit. So like he'll move out eventually, but ah the, the.
00:30:38
Speaker
The basement bedroom isn't exactly like, I don't know, but my kids could fight over that when they get older, like the oldest would probably get it first. um But there's some other, I don't know, whatever there's the the space I have isn't really conducive to, ah you know, having four kids live in the house at the same time. um And there's no time limit on when my foster son can move out. And I know that a lot of people stay with their families for a long time because this economy is bullshit and they can't actually afford to move out. So yeah, he's 21. But I mean, my siblings lived with my parents since they were almost 30. So I'm not I'm not holding my breath. And I'm just accepting that I might be housing adult humans for a while.
00:31:24
Speaker
um So yeah, we're moving. And that's that's ah that's my big announcement. it's I hate it so much. Moving sucks, dude. I look at all the shit I have. I look at all the empty beer cans around me that I have to pick up. Do you know how mad I am about that?
00:31:42
Speaker
If only you could see his feet in my word. He can't. I can't. You can't. I have to like wade through empty beer cans. So we're going to stay in the area. ah Another part of this is so my wife's grandparents are in their 90s. Her grandfather has dementia. They're not doing very well.
00:32:05
Speaker
um but Jill's uncle and aunt. So there's Jill's grandparents' situation is that ah they when years ago, built a Jill's family lives on the same road. It's like uncle, parents, aunt and uncle, grandparents. And they had an old farmhouse. It was all of Jill's grandparents' land. And as the kids got older, they just parceled some off to give to the kids so they could build houses. So her family lives on the same street.
00:32:33
Speaker
Her grandparents' house was wicked fucking old. um They had to keep going upstairs to go to bed, but downstairs to go to the bathroom because they had no upstairs bathroom. One of those like just old ass farm homes. So um Jill's aunt and uncle, what they did was they built a new house, ah was a ranch behind their house. And then they we they they demolished the old house.
00:32:57
Speaker
um And then they moved Jill's grandparents into that. So Jill's uncle lives in Hawaii, her aunt lives in Texas. So when they come to visit, they stay there. um And then when her grandparents pass, ah that will be their home to have to visit the area because they visit a lot.
00:33:16
Speaker
um Her uncle's retired, her aunt just retired. like They go back and forth. ah So that that will be their place when they pass. But so her her uncle's been here for a couple months um and he's going back to Hawaii.
00:33:30
Speaker
And our grandparents are just struggling. Our grandfather doesn't remember things a lot. ah So we're looking to just sell our house and we're actually going to stay with them for a little while while we look for another house um just to like, you know, make sure that they're okay. We're more like a human life alert. Like there's no, I'm not, we're not toileting old people or anything like that. We're just kind of,
00:33:55
Speaker
We're just kind of like sentient life alert is all and another thing about you You never miss an opportunity to put another thing on your plate. I don't thank you Because you know what I noticed about myself is how much I just like I think I'm I think I'm starting to realize I might disassociate a little bit Because not all Jill goes, we should, and what ah what about, cause we were going to stick, my parents at offered first. ah My dad smokes inside though. And I was like, I'm not living in a home where someone smokes inside. Cause I hate smelling like an ashtray all day.
00:34:30
Speaker
So I told my mom that that's fine. Whatever. I don't care if my dad smokes. sight My mom actually can't smell anything. She has no sense of smell. She hasn't since I was a kid. ah So like that's why her and my dad have not got divorced is that she can't smell how horrible her home smells.
00:34:46
Speaker
And she knows it does because people will say it, but she doesn't smell it. So she's like, it's fine. Um, I mentioned it and she was like, I'll mention it to dad. Uh, maybe we'll stay with them. And then, but that's inconvenient because they're like 23 minutes away from where my kids go to school. So I would have to bring my kids to school and then drive another 23 minutes to work. So I'm looking at like a 45 minute commute every day. Not ideal.
00:35:10
Speaker
but i've done it and i can do things like that fairly easily like i said i disassociate apparently and but then my wife's parents offered but then the whole thing with jill's grandmother really kind of freaking out about being on their own jill's like what if we just stayed with them i was like that sounds terrible and she was like i think it'd be really nice and i was like okay
00:35:35
Speaker
You know what you need? The next thing, you need to foster a dog that bites. No, I already own a dog that bites, and we're about to spend $3,000 on how to fix this fuck. That's why we might not move in. You're dragging on life support.
Dog Behavior Challenges
00:35:50
Speaker
Which we rehomed. I might be rehoming a dog now, dude. So my dog bit my dad.
00:35:56
Speaker
Uh, my dog has behavioral, he's got fear based aggression. Uh, and it's gotten worse over the years. So we're actually meeting with somebody who trains, uh, basically trains police dogs and shit like that. Like works with a ah and works with aggressive dogs for a living. Uh, we're having a console with him next week. Is this the dog you don't like?
00:36:19
Speaker
Yeah and i realize that i don't hate him because when we we went to my vet because we had a meeting with my vet the other day because we want to be able to help chills grandparents and i was like i don't feel safe bringing this dog into their house though like i just don't know if it's a good idea he's great a great family dog he just chills the kids sit on him they pet him they slay like he's super good he's got this over protectionist nature and is always afraid that anything coming towards their house is there to kill somebody that like he gets aggressive
00:36:56
Speaker
And that's why he bit my dad. Like he knows my dad. My dad just came in. We've talked about this with people. Like you can't just walk into my home unannounced. Um, and he forgot. We knew my parents were coming over, but I didn't know they pulled in and came up to step. So my dad just opens the door and goes, hello. And my dog runs up and.
00:37:14
Speaker
bit him in the arm, like broke skin. And as soon as my dog realized it, he pulled back and then felt like grabbed a toy and was like happy to see him like he just lives in this zone of like someone's always trying to kill me. Or they love me so much that I need to be on top of them. And it's very frustrating. But it's not a good dog to move into an old person's home. Probably not. It's not a good dog.
00:37:41
Speaker
to have period they don't he he doesn't warm up to small children the least on the least scary people on earth kids who are seven years old are like he's like they're here to kill me like no dude they're scared of you and he's like I don't think so and so we just barks and loses his mind so where we're literally looking right now into like what to do because having a baby he's he's actually gotten weirder since my wife got pregnant and as soon as I got as soon as she told me that we're pregnant I was like I think Albus knows that was my first thought like he's been weird for the past week and a half and like doing bizarre things like jumping on her bed but then when I get in jumps off but then tries to get back in and then like and then when we put him out he just cries and cries and cries and pause at the door like he's getting weird about trying to be near Jill all the time and I'm like that motherfucker knew he definitely knows like and he's been so weird since then and our vet was like it's very normal for dogs to pick up on that like that's that it's very probable that that's what is going on and that's increasing his protectivist nature um but we're looking into it I've
00:38:57
Speaker
I hate spending money. I've always been adamant that it's not worth spending a lot of money on. And then we, when we were having the, I mean, the converse, it's to the point where the conversation of like, like behavioral euthanasia came up. Like, is this, is this the kind of dog that should, should stay alive kind of thing? You can't have him around a kid if he's gonna, you know, if he might, if he might bite him or something like that. Even in general, like,
00:39:25
Speaker
any unpredictability with a dog and a baby, which are way more fragile than like a nine year old, you know, like, yeah. If a dog, if a, if an 80 pound dog steps on your baby by accident, your baby's dead. And that's the like the scariest idea ever.
00:39:41
Speaker
So we're like 80 pounds. Yeah, he's 82 pounds dude. Fucking big boy. So we're, we're running the game right now, exhausting all of our income that we don't have because we're trying to buy a new home that's going to cost more than the one we have.
00:39:57
Speaker
That's not going to probably even be as nice and I'm going to have to pay to fucking fix it because Massachusetts sucks. And I'm also now looking, at now I'm like, you know, booking consults with behavioral specialists for fucking dogs and shit. And I'm like, aren't you going to, aren't you going to buy a house there on the family cul-de-sac?
00:40:15
Speaker
Actually, that has come up. ah But party pad again, Massachusetts is annoying. So there's a bunch of land behind my father in laws that we could build on. But you would legally have to build a road to get to it. And we're in the conversation about whether or not you would have to pave that road or you could do a dirt road.
00:40:35
Speaker
um but the problem also is building is gonna take so long like building is not a ah quick thing and I don't want to be living with anybody other than my family when I have a baby I'm not trying to fucking yeah do that again I've done that twice dude I'm too old I'm fucking too old for this shit now I just, I want to be in my space, have a kid and then have like, and I don't want to be in other people's space when that happens and then have to move after that happens. I hate that. I've done that. Um, and, and we talked about building, we can actually build behind Jill's grandparents without having to build a road because they have enough frontage. Um, but.
00:41:24
Speaker
where we would have to build, you would have to clear a bunch of land. And then by the time you're done with site work, you're already sunk in like $60,000 just to clear everything out. Like nothing, this is like one of the most expensive areas to live. ah And it's just, I think I would, there's a good chance I would accidentally become house poor if we tried to build. And I don't, like I'm not, I'm not up for that. So just like the idea of having like that, you know,
00:41:54
Speaker
Like making that a private family drive, which is, you know, it's a bunch of, uh, in, in family party pads. You should call it Nara Lago.
00:42:05
Speaker
yeah My, like my in-laws have a pool. They have a gorgeous backyard. Like I would love to build behind them. It would be amazing. It would be like summers would fucking rule with my wife and I both teaching shit, like having the summers off with the kids. You just walk out your front door and walk 100 feet, jump in the pool. Like, yeah, dude, I would love that. Cool. I just I don't. ah we're We're going to find out what it would cost to to put a road in. ah We my father-in-law's friends with the the inspector of the town, so like
00:42:41
Speaker
They text, like they go to church together and shit. so like he can just like He'll just come out as a favor and be like, yeah, you can or can't do this, like easy to figure out. ah So we're gonna figure it out. If it became reasonable, ah we would we'd consider doing it as inconvenient as building would be right now. i mean Because obviously the upside of building is you get everything you want.
00:43:06
Speaker
I I'd be willing to pay a little bit more knowing that, like, I checked every fucking box on my list because that's what's annoying about buying a house is someone's making a sacrifice on something they want. Yeah. If even if it's small or sucks, though, even if it's small, like, like we're looking at a house right now and at the setup has incredible potential. um It's like a great spot, great location, great house. And then you go, yeah, but there's fucking wallpaper in every room.
00:43:36
Speaker
So now I have to like move in and just steam a bunch of wallpaper and then repaint the whole fucking thing. Like that is annoying, but it's probably worth saving $80,000, you know? Yeah. Yeah, very true.
00:43:51
Speaker
I mean, what's another project for you? Why not? Another thing on your plate. i should What I should really be doing is hold putting a baby in the carrier, putting a mask over the baby, and then myself.
Life Changes and Humor
00:44:04
Speaker
Actually, according to airplane rules, I should put it on myself first. And then painting with a baby on my chest. I mean, ah I'll just do it all. Yeah. Yeah. And you can shower at the YMCA while you guys redo your bathroom. Yeah.
00:44:19
Speaker
Exactly. Just look at old man boners every day. Which obviously is a classic pastime for us. That comes up plenty of times. so So yeah, big I mean, major life moves for me. Having a baby, trying to move. My neighbor's killing me, essentially, emotionally and psychologically. But on the plus side, ah my town just redid all their water lines and we got like 40% more water pressure. ah So now my bidet feels like I'm pressure washing my asshole and it is nice. Borderline hurts. eight Yeah. Dude, if you turn it up all the way, you can feel it giving you like,
00:44:56
Speaker
You can feel it splitting the skin a little bit. You're like, I should i should rail i should roll this back a little bit. You don't need you don't need full blast anymore. It's nice. It's a clean it's clean, dude. every the The little cloth that I use when I'm done, dude, to come it's clean every time. So there are little wins in life happening too. It's not all bad.
00:45:18
Speaker
and One of those little wins is having a baby. We did want one. This wasn't like an oops. My wife and I are adults who know how to use protection when we want to. That's crazy to me when people accidentally have children. I've been so good at not accidentally having kids my whole life. You've been pretty good at it too, Casey. I'm proud of you. Yeah, we know what we're doing. yeah Abstinence.
00:45:43
Speaker
yeah ah We just do hand stuff. Just like in, just like in college, you know, we just, just, just put on a loose pair of jeans and just, you know, Robin tells you something you did not own in college. Let's be real. That's true. Very true. Not a lot of flex room in there. Not in those girls jeans. Tough to, tough to move in in the back of a truck. Girls jeans had the little zippers too. Like why are these even here?
00:46:15
Speaker
I never had girls jeans, but I just, I barely missed that segment of like seeing kids. Me too. And I had a pair of boys jeans that I think might've been accidentally put in the boys section. Cause I wore them and I bought them. I was like, these are perfect. But they were mistaken for girls jeans a few times. And I think maybe I actually bought girls jeans.
00:46:40
Speaker
ah So, did you happen to see any of the news today? I saw that a Tesla truck was blown up in front of a Trump hotel in Las Vegas. That was some of the news I saw. Yeah, so. this So, legit I think it might be some sort of terrorist attack.
00:47:04
Speaker
Yes. Which they also think the the the guy in New Orleans was too. Did you hear about that? What happened in New Orleans? A guy yesterday drove his truck ah into- Not a Cybertron. No, an old F-150.
00:47:25
Speaker
Drove his truck through a big group of pedestrians and then got out in full military gear and opened fire. And he has an ISIS flag hanging on the back of his truck. damn And they don't think that he acted alone. They said that there was like four men and one woman who helped place the explosives, apparently.
00:47:45
Speaker
And then there'd be immediate fire, but there was also explosives. Apparently so. I don't know if the explosives actually went off because I think most of the the deaths and injuries were from the vehicle hitting people. that is that is Those are high casualty events. When somebody drives a vehicle through a crowd of people, it's just that's the worst type of ah situation, I feel. Yeah, we haven't seen that since, ah was ah one with a black was it a Black Lives Matter protest?
00:48:15
Speaker
Where the dude did that? Uh, there's been a few. There was, uh, after the, well, after the, uh, Kenosha, Wisconsin shooting the whole, what's his face? Um, yes. Yeah. So there was a guy, I don't know if he was even like explicitly political, politically motivated, but he was like a black guy and he drove his vehicle through a crowd and killed a bunch of people. I think he was just a nut, but.
00:48:44
Speaker
Yeah, then there was that guy in Charlottesville. That Charlottesville was what I was thinking of. Thinking of, right? There was a really bad one in Spain or something like that, or France, I forget where. Well, let's let America, so who cares, right? Let's not get carried away caring about places that aren't here. But yeah, so that the one in New Orleans, I think, is a terrorist attack. um I guess we'll see. i mean it's Seems like i struck one weirder problems now than like the United States. But who knows? yeah the The weird thing about the cyber truck one is there was like fireworks and gasoline in the back of the truck that they think were tied to a some sort of like trigger system. But someone in the car in the video. Yeah, it's nuts. It was someone in the car died, though. So it's kind of like a suicide bombing, which I think is strange. He drove like right up.
00:49:40
Speaker
right up to the glass on the yeah door in blue and it i guess a bunch of people were injured but as far as seven injured only one that died but he's the only one that died yeah andd they're like yeah we think it's probably this given you know tesla trucks ah Cyber truck hotel our yeah, you're like yeah, of course wait. What are we doing? Of course he making a point? ah I do hate I do oh my god I I still don't know where I stand fully at this point when it comes to like a Nonviolent ethic, but I can say that I hate this shit because
00:50:20
Speaker
Anytime anything like this happens, it really like especially against a more fascist leaning type, ah it never ends well for the people who are trying to make the statement.
Political Violence and Global Instability
00:50:35
Speaker
right It always makes things worse.
00:50:38
Speaker
It's like when the, you know, Bonhoeffer tried to assassinate Hitler or participate in that scheme and it failed and he like doubled down on being a the world's biggest monster. Like that shit always happens. When you do stuff like this, and no one, no one that you hate is ever like, you know what? I see how angry they were.
00:50:59
Speaker
I get why they did it and I should probably roll it back a bit. They go, no, this means war motherfucker. That's the mentality. All you do is perpetuate that idea. Yeah. And it's getting old like the assassination attempts on Trump, you know, like all this shit's getting old and it's only going to make things worse and empower the things that these people Well, I don't know who did them, but you can assume a little bit. Uh, maybe there's a slight exception to the Luigi guy. I don't know. Maybe we can make a slight exception for him because he really united
00:51:35
Speaker
republicans and democrats for a moment and i thought that would not expect the reaction yeah that was special kind of funny like when you're when my dad and me are like you know i get it i'm like okay this guy he he transcended political boundaries in a way that was kind of interesting and worth talking about but like uh these like ah assassination attempts or terrorist attacks for the purpose of uh for like for political purposes which is what terrorism is right politically motivated um it's always it's it
00:52:15
Speaker
It never makes people think. It never makes people take a step back and go, hmm, maybe they have a point. It makes them double down and be worse all the time. Yeah, it's I don't know. It's a weird subject because it's like it.
00:52:33
Speaker
It works for some things. like i mean it works if If the toll is high enough, then public opinion can shift against whatever's going on. you know like Public opinion shifted against the Iraq war because of the insurgency and how how awful it was and stuff. you know and It started to feel tedious that we weren't actually accomplishing anything good.
00:52:56
Speaker
the The American people lost faith in the war that they had been sold. yeah what they got But they were motivated in response to the terrorist attacks. though right like Without those terrorist attacks, theyre probably without 9-11, there probably would have wouldn't have been anything like what we saw as a response. like That just gave them a window of opportunity. It was definitely the justification. The most recent example, I guess, that I can think of is you know, the Hamas attack on October 7th of last year. Yes. Yes. That's a weird one because it's like, you know, you you when you when you look at the political situation there and the way in which that they were gradually like gradually like Israel was making all these diplomatic in loads with these other Arab countries, which were, you know, always been, you know, at least in in at least to some extent were were
00:53:52
Speaker
you know, backing Palestine and stuff like that. And like, I think those guys saw, you know, the the normalization of relations with Saudi Arabia and stuff is like, we're just going to be snuffed out in silence and no one's going to hear about it. Like, they're just going to take this place. So, you know, they they they committed a horrible atrocity terrorist attack. But like, I think that's the problem is that, you know, if you're one of those types of people, like there's a The people who pay for your political statement are never, it's always innocent people that pay. Absolutely. Cause like when they can't reach you, they take it out on the general population, you know? And I, I don't know what, I don't, I honestly, dude, I don't know what's going on. I, there's been so much weird like political violence over the past like six, eight months here. Yeah, it's nuts.
00:54:52
Speaker
It's driven, it's driven these weird coalitions of people, like, you know, that, the you know, tech oligarchs uniting with Trump to, you know, help him win the election and stuff like that. Like, it's just, the situation has gotten so weird. It's hard to say what it looks like in another three months, much less, you know, three years.
00:55:14
Speaker
Yeah, it's wild because at the end of the day, all are we can only like for the most part, we can just vote and then be like, but we we know democracy is stupid because a when you look at most people and how and why they vote,
00:55:30
Speaker
like you go this is you don't even know what you're talking about like you you don't even know like okay uh i'm gonna give the like the flash in the pan version of what i told casey before we recorded but i've mentioned my neighbor i've been reluctant to talk about it because he is a very problematic person over the span of a couple of years. He got an injury at work. He was, he stays home. Uh, he he's on disability. He can't go back to work. His wife left him. And then ah but eventually his two children moved out because they couldn't deal with him anymore. He's ah an alcoholic and yeah dabbles in pill addiction. And I hear him.
00:56:14
Speaker
constantly screaming all the time. He's also a Puerto Rican man, ah which is notable. ah Now, I guess Puerto Ricans can't be deported. So that's helpful to be conservative in Puerto Rican, I guess. But ah because Puerto Rico's, I mean, whatever, they could do anything. They could change the rules, I guess, if they want to. But right now, Puerto Ricans are safe.
00:56:38
Speaker
um He came screaming at my house at me. He screams into the void a lot just out his window. He opens his window and screams ah into the void and talks about me and my family and my other neighbor and his family and the other neighbors and their families. And then when you try to confront him, he like closes his window and goes back inside. ah But the other day it got so bad that I ah because he came over to my house and was like yelling at my foster son that I i went and ah exchanged some very serious words with him. I said a lot of things that I've never said to another adult human in my life. ah And one of the things that he starts going off on while I was
00:57:22
Speaker
talking with him it was he goes like he he this dude I he was like conflating God he recently during his like wild addiction challenges has become a man of God Which means nothing. It's like, I found God. I'm good. I'm God. He reminds me of Mike's servant, dude. Oh, yeah. Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ! He reminds me of Mike's servant a lot in the way he just says Jesus' name all the time, but I'm like,
00:57:55
Speaker
One of the things I was screaming at about, I was like, shut the bitch. Would fucking Jesus hang out his window screaming racial and homophobic slurs into the void? No, you don't know Jesus at all. You don't know God. You don't know Christ. You don't know shit. Shut the fuck up. Leave me alone. Don't talk to my family. Don't talk to my fucking kids. Don't talk fucking talk at all. Just shut up. i don't No one should have to hear that. No one should have to hear you screaming all day.
00:58:21
Speaker
Waking me up at seven o'clock in the morning waking me up at two in the morning Just screaming out your window in a drunken pilled up rage So anyway, I'm over giving him the business for the first time in the seven years that I've lived in this fucking house um And he is like He starts being like I tell him I'm going to move. I was like, I've been trying to come over for the past few weeks and tell you that I'm going to move, that I'm going to list my house. And he cries and like falls on the ground and puts his head on my knees. That's how way over the top this guy is. You're abandoning me. You're leaving me. And I'm like, look at you, dude. I like this. Yes.
00:59:01
Speaker
like I have other reasons but what you're doing right like this is a very good reason to not stay in a neighborhood you are a unsafe unhinged human and I was like but then he he to bring this full circle he goes this is God's timing God's doing this this is what God wants for you because God appointed Donald Trump and you're gonna get a better interest rate and you're gonna get lower taxes and he turns into one of those tick tock preachers about what he's, I'm like, no, dude, this is the worst. I'm scared to sell and buy right now because a couple of things could happen. One, you don't know what a tariff is. And if we put 20% tariffs on Canada for lumber imports, that's going to skyrocket building. And you know, that's going to do the housing market. That's going to turn up the housing market. And that's going to make my interest rate
00:59:54
Speaker
I have a two eight interest rate, dude. I read a finance during COVID to eight never going to happen again, probably in the history of this country. unless another pandemic comes through and really helps me out. But where I mean, I'm looking at in the fives or sixes now, like that's going to increase how much I pay a lot. Like he's just blind, dude. He's just one of those like I see through his window because he has all of his blinds open constantly and never stops having his TV on. I look and he just has Newsmax playing 24 seven. And I'm like, yeah, they're going to tell they're telling you all the shit that
01:00:32
Speaker
like that, but like, like I might sell my house and have my equity be worth shit if I don't buy soon enough. That or this it could go the other way, too. It could. The housing market could drop based on certain economical shifts like all that. It's all unpredictable. All I know is my neighbor like bowing before me and crying about how like this is all God ordained because Trump's going to make my life better. I want to kick him in the fucking teeth. Like, bitch, this is that has nothing to do with it.
01:01:02
Speaker
Yeah, it's just everybody projecting these like messianic ideas onto just scumbag politicians and con men. All of them, you know, like, i I don't know, you know, like, I know so many people who are like big Trump supporters and stuff, and they write, they go off on all the things that he's going to do and stuff. And I i like I've told several of them, you know, because I'm like, yeah, I'm not a big Trump guy. And they're like, dude,
01:01:32
Speaker
Look, I hope he is all the things that you think he is. okay I hope that he's going to fix this and fix that and all this stuff. like i really We might not agree on the terms and the ideas and stuff. I hope all that good stuff happened. Here's what I suspect. He's not going to do any of that stuff.
01:01:49
Speaker
yeah Like this is like the first cracks are already starting to show like with the whole like, uh, you know, him feuding with like Elon Musk and Vivek, which was and highly predicted like seven weeks ago. yeah This is the whole thing. It's like, yeah, tech billionaires and, and all these like rich lunatics that profit off of cheap labor do not want immigration reform. They don't want that. And those are all the people that funded his campaign and stuff like You can like it, you can hate it, but like, I doubt, I doubt he is going to go against all of these people that have pushed him to this point, you know, with just mass injections of cash.
01:02:32
Speaker
to do something that you want. Like it's it's probably not going to happen. There'll be some like, you know, largely ceremonial, ridiculous reforms that they pass that really don't do a whole lot of anything. And then ah life will continue. I mean, that's probably what's, that's what I think is probably going to happen. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. But I think that's what's going to happen. And it's like just this,
01:02:56
Speaker
I think problems are so big at this point yeah that like the only comforting thing is to place like just supreme importance on these like singular figures that are going to swoop in and fix everything and like it's not going to happen. Dude, even like no I know like a lot of people listen to the show probably disagree with me on on like the Ukraine war.
01:03:20
Speaker
I mean, i i I think it should end ASAP. And that's one of the things that he's talked about a lot. I have zero faith in his willingness or ability to do that.
01:03:34
Speaker
Right. I mean, maybe they'll like threaten to cut off weapons and stuff like that to them. There will be a big debate. It'll be every news channel all talking about it for months and months and months. But at the end of the day, the checks are going to get cut because everything in this country comes down to money. And that's where the money is at. There's too many people that profiteer off of that crap.
01:03:53
Speaker
Like whether Ukraine is going to win or lose. I mean, it's pretty clear at this point. They're going to like secede a bunch of territory to Russia. I mean, it's just what it is. They're getting their butts kicked and you can't blame. They've done really well for themselves. Like they've put up a huge fight, but like they don't seem willing to and draft a bunch of 18 year olds into their military to die in a trench. Good for them.
01:04:15
Speaker
Good, good, nobody should support that item. Dude, if we don't draft all of our, if we don't if we don't ruin an entire generation of people, we're gonna lose the Kursk region. You know who thinks that? Lindsey Graham, because guess who writes his campaign check? Screw these people, okay? But do I think that Trump is gonna go in there and fix that because Joe Blow down the street and in El Dorado, Kansas, like wants him to not spend money on Ukraine?
01:04:43
Speaker
No, I don't think he's going to do that. and Like all the bluster and stuff aside, it's not going to happen. Things are going to largely continue as they have, but I don't know. I just, dude, it feels like such a weird place that we're in and like, there's so much crap going on.
01:05:02
Speaker
I mean, just nobody talking about Syria at all. And then all of a sudden their government falls in a weekend. which Very interesting timing, doesn't don't you think? like that that All that would just come to a head after like 10 years, all in one shot right before Trump takes office. It's almost like people are trying to finish up some things before they leave. you know Right. Did they have the power to do that all along? I don't know. I don't know what's going on I know that the guy that the freaking Al Qaeda guy that they're gonna put in charge of the country right now Who's talking about not letting people vote in democratic elections for like four years is not a good choice No matter whether he puts on a blazer or not
01:05:42
Speaker
Dude, this stuff is so stupid. i'm Ah, man, I'm so tired of all this garbage. like Just this stupid discourse around like very serious topics, things that like you know we can argue back and forth about trans bathrooms and stuff like that. But like people are dying every day in these conflicts. i mean Israel just took a whole bunch of land from Syria with like no yeah almost criticism whatsoever. Turkey's getting ready to do the same thing. Which they've received none of anyway.
01:06:11
Speaker
ah yeah i mean it's just like um just the and the And the level of discourse is so low and stupid around all of this stuff that it's just mine. I mean, just over the holidays, I was listening to a conversation. I'm going to do my best to leave particular names and familial affiliations out of it. But it was like one person goes,
01:06:34
Speaker
Well, Trump, ah Trump, he, he, he's the kind of guy who does the thing he's got. he He does the thing he says he's going to do. And that's why I like Trump. And I go, done and then he said, hes and then another family member goes, Oh really? How'd that work out for the border? He never built the wall. He only talked about building the wall.
01:06:55
Speaker
And he said he was going to get Mexico to pay for it. And instead of engaging with the fact that he didn't do the thing he said he was going to do, which was build the wall, he goes, well, he did. He did get Mexico. He didn't get. Yeah, I mean, they didn't pay cash, but he got the Mexican president to send Mexican troops to secure the border. And I go, ah my first thought was, where did you even hear that? Because I don't know anything about a lot of things. And I know that that didn't happen.
01:07:24
Speaker
I know that Mexico didn't send their entire military to secure the border on our behalf so we could put up some I-beams and not finish a wall. That's not what happened.
01:07:36
Speaker
But that's what happens when you only listen to Newsmax. Because Newsmax doesn't have the lu they don't have ah no they have the luxury of not actually having to report the truth. Because Newsmax is even in a better space than Fox. Fox News owes it at some level to be truthful about what's specifically happening regardless of how they feel about it.
01:08:01
Speaker
It's still a mainstream institution in so in most ways. Yeah. And like they have editorial commentators like that can say whatever they want. you know Like Sean Hannity can say whatever he wants because it's editorial, it's not news. And so they get away with it. But they're news segments, I will hand it to Fox News for the most part.
01:08:24
Speaker
ah They have had some litigation over it, but for the most part, they present information that happened and then they just put a spin on it. Whatever. I'm not going to complain about that because we're all looking for that to some degree. um I don't love it. I think they're disingenuous.
01:08:42
Speaker
But there's some boundaries though. There are some boundaries. thank At least there's some boundaries. But Newsmax doesn't have it. They're literally entirely built on being an editorial platform. They do not have to represent news accurately. They do not have to tell you true things. They can tell you whatever they want and they can say, well, that's just my opinion. and they And there is no actual FCC recourse. There's no recourse in any way, shape or form. They are there it's it's there there are no guardrails on what a station like Newsmax can say and that is why the hard right has been like this is the only station saying the truth like okay that's obviously means it's the only people saying what you want to hear
01:09:26
Speaker
We know that we don't need to go down memory lane here, but it's just, and look, let's be fair if I'm going to do my best to be fair and balanced like my favorite news station. John Stewart has gotten away with this too. John Stewart has had litigation come his way.
01:09:47
Speaker
frivolous I would think I believe in Jon Stewart I don't agree with Jon Stewart everything I think he's more Democrat than like leftist but I love Jon Stewart I think he's one of the most integrous people on the planet I think he tells you what he thinks and explains why and if you don't agree with him that's fine but I think Jon Stewart is easily one of the best communicators about what's going on politically I think he's doing A fantastic job with all of his outlets. um I think he asked great and probing questions. I think he can go toe to toe with any politician without batting an eyelash. I love this man even when I don't agree with him on something. And even he has used during the Daily Show, people would try to give him shit for saying some things. He goes, we're a comedy show. We're editorial.
01:10:35
Speaker
It's not our job to present the news so if we got that wrong then don't come at me this is comedy and so people can use that for both sides I i believe John Stewart is a as a very genuine human.
01:10:48
Speaker
um And I think probably just, you know, has good he's got good lawyers like everybody else. But ah I don't believe that anyone behind Newsmax is a decent human. I don't think there's any I don't think anyone's an honest actor on that side of things. Which which one is like crazier Newsmax or One America? I don't. What is One America? I don't even know another one of those like whack job news channels like super conservative. I think One America might be more fringe than Newsmax maybe.
01:11:18
Speaker
It's got to be, because I don't know it. And that's actually that actually makes me feel good. I mean, one America sounds more unhinged um just by the title alone. But the fact that no one in my family has told me about it makes me feel like maybe there's still some hope left. It's not bit shoot. I mean, there's no bit shoot. It's no bit shoot.
01:11:43
Speaker
Yeah, I.
01:11:47
Speaker
Oh, man. Is the drone thing still happening? Which one? The like all the drones oh over New Jersey host. Yeah. Is that still going on? I don't know. I think everyone got real excited for a minute because they finally thought maybe New Jersey was going to get wiped off the map and then it didn't happen. So we had to pretend to be like worried. Oh, if they were coming for New Jersey, who are they coming for?
01:12:14
Speaker
That was a weird deal. That's the thing. It's like, I know your wife is from New Jersey. I didn't mean to. Yeah, my interest is there. Yeah, but their mistake.
01:12:26
Speaker
Did you happen to see the ah the whole debacle around CNN's new that news story where they were the the anchor supposedly like her and some escorts found ah a prison like a forgotten prisoner prisoner in ah Syrian jail?
01:12:44
Speaker
No. so they were like live on this They were doing this like live feeder and basically like walking through this Syrian prison from the Ashad regime and like looking at all these cells and stuff. and There's like one cell that's blocked that's locked and they're like, it's the only one that's locked. i mean it's what's What's going on here? it's you know so They're like, we had to turn the camera off while the guards shot the lock off the door. and Shot the lock off the door. Hang on. What? So they go in there and there's like, it's just like an empty cell and there's like a ah lump, like a blanket on the floor. And they're like. With like a fully gaped Julian Assange underneath it.
01:13:28
Speaker
basically like like is there a Is there someone in there? Is there someone in there? And nobody responds, and nobody responds, and they're like, I can't tell if it's just a blanket. of it when it Well, I pull it back and there's a guy in there. It's like three raccoons under a trench coat. More or less, the guy's like... He's like he told us that he had been in the prison for months, that he hadn't had any food or water in four days and this and that and the other. And this guy's like coming out of the the the prison cell and they're all like, oh, my God, this is amazing. And he's like looking up at the sky and like, you know, praising God and stuff like that. And he's like perfectly clean, freshly shaved, like clean clothes. no everything about it and everybody was like this is really weird this guy hasn't had any he's been tortured for four months and he hasn't had any water in four days and like he looks like this and it was like this big debacle and then finally they admitted that it was like stage
01:14:28
Speaker
That's like worse than being a crisis actor. That's like, yeah dude, you're not even SAG certified at that point. that is Not only was it just staged, but doing a little background work on the guy. This guy was involved in like torturing civilian prisoners and stuff. He was in prison because he got caught like shaking people down for bribes by the regime and they put him in the jail like four months ago. It's the funniest thing.
01:14:57
Speaker
And they're just like the way he's like holding on to the, the, the anchor lady's hand. He's like, she's like, you're fine. You're okay. You're okay. You're safe now. You're safe now. Yes. Here's this take, just look, look, there's the sun. You haven't seen the sun in so long. There's the sky. It's beautiful. That's crazy.
01:15:16
Speaker
So yeah, I don't know what's going to happen over the next few months here. Uh, but I'm much more concerned about like the middle East erupting into more chaos or getting into some sort of direct altercation with Russia or something like that. More concerned about that stuff than like, are we going to, is Trump going to put an 80% tariff on all imports? or we going to Are we going to annex Canada as the 51st state? Oh my god. That whole thing is hilarious. it's Dude, the guy just generates clickbait. That's what he does. And like the the the media is like so hungry for it. They just love it. They're like, he said that he's going to demand they give back the Panama Canal. And it's like, oh my god. This is so stupid. He's dumb. Who knows?
01:16:09
Speaker
Dude, we're in for a wild fucking ride. That's all we know. It's gonna be it's goingnna just be unhinged chaos for four years. If a guy's saying stuff, everybody having a huge reaction, and then be like, I don't even think you could do that. It's not even in the Constitution. And then it it's gonna, nothing's probably gonna happen. He might make some little weird moves on some shit. Things will not be, I truly don't think things are gonna be awesome. I think the chaos that'll ensue from him being present is gonna be problematic enough.
01:16:38
Speaker
I know I'm going to be taxed more. I'm not happy about that. um i Other than that, I don't know how I'll be impacted. As you know we've talked about plenty of times, like based on where you are socioeconomically, you're less likely to really receive an impact. Talking to my brothers, one of which is on disability, he's worried.
01:17:02
Speaker
um about you know what changes could come to that. ah this ah Both of my siblings have chronic ah health conditions um that they're worried about. like But we live in Massachusetts, so they don't really need the federal government to take care of them. They do have Massachusetts does a pretty good job of that outside of the federal government. We have MassHealth. We have more social safety nets. So they're okay, but not unconcerned. ah But yeah, I don't know. It's going to be tumultuous. It's going to be a weird four years.
01:17:38
Speaker
um i i have a ah ah full When you work in a school, you have what they call PD days, which is just like It's called professional development. You occasionally, ah couple times three or four times a year, they don't have school for the kids and you just go and listen to eight hours of people telling you stuff that is meaningless. That doesn't matter. That supposedly makes you better professionally.
01:18:06
Speaker
um in my next ones on January 6th. Ooh, nice. So I just, you know, that date's stuck in my mind. I thought about being like, when that when that when it came out, oh, we have our full PD day on January 6th, I really wanted to be like, I'm not, oh, I'm actually not around. I put in, I put in for the for a personal day a while ago, I'm going to be in the Capitol.
01:18:36
Speaker
Yeah, that would be hilarious. Or show up in a Gadsen flag and insist that they do a pledge of allegiance before they start the class. Dude, god du my lie school does every- schools do that. Still the pledge of allegiance and I hate it every day. I hear it.
01:18:51
Speaker
I go, okay, time to do the Pledge of Allegiance. I go, this is horseshit. This is how, like, what are we doing? I pledge allegiance to the, no, I pledge allegiance to nothing. Fuck you. That's how I feel all the time.
Cringe Content and Internet Personalities
01:19:05
Speaker
I pledge allegiance, you haven't pledged allegiance, the flag, the people who represent it, they haven't pledged allegiance to shit. They just fucking show up and,
01:19:14
Speaker
Deregulate their ability to ah do stock buybacks and do insider trading. Yeah, fuck you dude, so my distraction lately is I You know firsthand, like I love like cringe content. Yeah, you do. it's It's my favorite thing. It's the only thing that gets you hard anymore. I'm sorry. I just like gobble these people up. like Every chance I get, I find one I've like followed. I've just been like going down this rabbit hole of like ah
01:19:50
Speaker
like quote unquote documentaries on YouTube about like internet, like infamous internet people. And some of them I'd heard of, some of them I haven't, but like. Let's fuck with Faith, one of them. Oh, he's like, one of these days. One of these days, the accusations are coming. That's our first official mention of that page. We'll just leave it there and maybe dip in a little bit later. I will say this and that's all I'll say.
01:20:18
Speaker
fuck The accusations are coming. Mark my words. Sooner or later, someone's going to blow a whistle. I feel i feel it in my bones. i I feel more confident in that than anything else that I believe in. I feel legally protected to make a to to make ah some sort of civil suit against him just for his Instagram posts. I think I would be in good shape.
01:20:48
Speaker
Oh, so much. So much to say. So we need to just get him on the podcast. I wonder if he would be have fun. Do you think he can have fun with us or do you think he would hate us? I maybe he made me.
01:21:03
Speaker
i We've toyed with this. and This is the wrong time to really go down that path. We've just talked about, we've had our personal exchanges about our thoughts on this account. ah Feel free to look it up if you want. I'm not even going to say it again, so just rewind if you can.
01:21:22
Speaker
But we've talked for so long about bringing it up and I just dropped it. And now I'm going to stick with it for just one more second. ah It's it's just I mean, it's maybe the opposite of what we're about on every front. It's the it's the epitome of things that we've griped about since the start of this thing. ah All in the name of doing something that makes you feel good about yourself. That man, fuck off.
01:21:52
Speaker
Anyway, sorry, dude. I didn't mean to go there. I don't know what I i don't know what i was thinking. Well, so cringe accounts. Carry on. One of the people that I've found recently that I've been following is ah this guy, his screen name on on like his handle on TikTok is Babylon. And he's a frumpy looking dude. It's usually just a straight on shot of his face.
01:22:21
Speaker
And he's straight on shot. That's actually impressive because usually it's like a 90 degree angle but below. Just looking up at the double chin. This guy is straight alpha. He looks directly down into your eyes like Andrew Tate style. Yes, absolutely. I did the right time this time, too. Well, Jesse, your friend, Jesse, but what? Let's clear the air on that one. I said the wrong tape. Do you ever text me about that?
01:22:51
Speaker
You're like Jesse's listening to our episode where I mentioned something about Andrew. I think I said Michael Tate Yeah, they're easily confusable So this guy looks like he looks probably at the camera he's probably not in great shape and he has long Very like black hair. It's kind of stringy. He's got that like died naturally black Like it could be dyed black. he's He's kind of pale, always looks like he skipped a day shaving. um And he's he's got that like head shop, guitar center sort of look to him. You know, long black kind of string stringly hair and stuff. He ah and he all he talks about is like how he's an alpha.
01:23:47
Speaker
and how other men are betas and like tells, he gives relationship advice. And it's it's like so clearly like a, like he's like an autistic man or something. And he has the funniest takes. Like they're so ridiculous that they make me laugh. He goes, he was listening to one of the, he goes, so the other day I was just minding my own business. And I saw a couple come out of the airport and the man was carrying two bags and the female didn't have any bags. Men, if you carry both bags and your female doesn't carry a bag, you are not dating material. You are her monkey slave. Like and everything that he talks about is that you got to look this guy up. It's so funny to me. He goes,
01:24:47
Speaker
If a girl told me that she was having lunch with her ex-boyfriend, I would tell her to pack her bags. He's just like, this guy that you look at him, you're like, this guy didn't that he didn't have a girlfriend. Like, there's no way that this guy has a girlfriend.
01:25:04
Speaker
absolutely no way. But it's it's so funny to watch somebody who does not fit the bill at all just assume the persona like one of these cut and paste internet personas. Like Yeah, like it's weird when you see someone who isn't heavily into MMA claiming to be an alpha.
01:25:22
Speaker
yeah or or make like straight up m MMA content. Like they give you advice on what move you should do if you're in a street altercation and they're just like a slug of a human being.
01:25:38
Speaker
It's my favorite. Oh man, it makes me laugh so much. But if you ah if you want to burn some time and some brain cells, ah there's a channel I've been following. Both of which Case is a huge fan of. it Kiwi tapes on YouTube. Kiwi tapes. Just look up Kiwi tapes and click on any video, just any old one. And and like chances are, it's like a dopey white dude that got started on TikTok doing like silly dances and stuff. And then, oh, turns out he's a pedophile.
01:26:10
Speaker
He's gonna he's gonna reach out and just say thanks for the plug ah Dude the Babylon guy ends every video like he after giving like just completely insane advice He just he ends every video by looking at the camera and going you're welcome It's it's like strong a strong man for Jesus strong men for Jesus, what's that? ah Oh, yes. Okay. So he's a little different because he makes cringe content, but I genuinely like kind of love that guy. Okay. So he's a little different. He is into it. Very funny. He's into it. And there's a lot of, okay. The Christian side of things gets weird.
01:26:54
Speaker
um I'll even say that given my recent experience with my neighbor, the first thing I thought of following that experience was Richie the barber. um Yeah, not just Richie the barber. Actually, it's Pastor Richie the barber now on Instagram, which I just love the low bar for calling yourself a pastor. Did he finish Seminary Diddy? I think didy did he finished Seminary Diddy. I wonder. I wonder.
01:27:25
Speaker
That Diddy Seminary you mean?
01:27:30
Speaker
i i It made me wonder and made me think that like maybe maybe it's not a full-blown grift like I thought. like After my recent altercation with my neighbor and him going all God on me,
01:27:48
Speaker
I'm like, no, I think this is ah i think this is also and not to take away from genuine people who I think are doing great work in the world that have a different perspective on the yeah on the the universe and all that's happening.
Religious Encounters and Authenticity
01:28:05
Speaker
ah but yeah what When I look at these people, I'm like, there's a level of psychosis involved with their love and belief in God. Like it's an extenuation of themselves. And it made me just listening to my neighbor genuinely. He's like literally snot coming out of his nose. He's crying on the floor talking about this shit.
01:28:25
Speaker
And I'm like, this is nonsense, dude. like i This is insanity. Listening to what you're saying makes no fucking sense. And it made me go, if he had access to social media and knew how to use it, like I think he genuinely believes this.
01:28:42
Speaker
I don't I think he's lied to himself to the point where he genuinely believes these lies I think it's his way of managing his mental breakdown like I need to I need to find a way to make sense of this and I'm gonna deflect I'm gonna say that oh I don't care about this or that all I care about is God and God's working through me and it's like yeah but you're not doing anything dude You're just being a bad neighbor. like yeah All I've learned about you is that God is a bad neighbor. that If God is anywhere in you, then God sucks at being a neighbor. We speak in the truth and love yeah in love. ah and In And speaking the truth in love requires using the F word and the N word out your window at high volumes at eight in the morning. but
01:29:33
Speaker
Uh, and not fuck. Let's, I think we all know the real F word isn't fuck anymore. Okay. Let's just be clear. We're talking about slurs now. This is the real sharp F word. yeah The one that makes you go, Jesus Christ.
01:29:49
Speaker
or But yeah. And so then I think of like these Instagram bastards, it's like. Am I am I selling them short by thinking that they're smart enough to just be like grifting? Like is it just or have they really fought? There are some Catherine. Catherine Crick is a grifter beginning and arbors a grifter to I mean, I think he's just a total comeback. Mike Servin, Mike Servin, I think is genuine. Yeah, I'd give him that, yeah. And i and Mike Servin and Richie the Barber are boys now. There's some lore there. I think there is like a ah perversion of motive in that, you know, when you're in that space that like it really blurs the line between like belief and grift.
01:30:38
Speaker
Because yeah you have to sell it all the time, you know, and like, I think some of these people are psychopaths that I mean, they, they'll whatever they say they believe. I mean, does it doesn't mean anything to them. It's but I think they might actually convince themselves to a degree that they really like like It's getting into patterns almost. It's just patterns. They're they're simple people without real thoughts. It's kind of a deal with patterns. With psychopaths though is that like belief is not really a word that that applies to them really. like They believe whatever's convenient, whatever they need to in order to like further their goals.
01:31:17
Speaker
you know Like in a I mean, so like when when you when you look at like, ah you know, some of these CEOs and stuff like that, like, I bet you that I'll bet you that United Healthcare care series CEO, like there wasn't, he he wasn't deep down concerned that like what he had helped create was was bad and was hurting people. Like the weight of those people, of like all the people who died because of their lack of coverage or, so you know, so drown in debt because of like misclaimed- It's mob shit. Like- It just becomes mob shit, dude.
01:31:55
Speaker
They don't care. I mean, that's the ultimate thing is like they care about getting where they want to go and and acquiring the things that they want. And everything else is like secondary to that. That's why there's no inner conflict over whether or not like.
01:32:11
Speaker
don't do i Am I really like preaching the gospel in a way that's accurate? No, it's like, no, I'm making a TikTok. And so like i'm goingnna I'm gonna swear up and down with 100% certainty that like Jesus is in this like AI image of a bowl of cereal.
01:32:28
Speaker
yeah
01:32:30
Speaker
But the the the mob shit thing I feel like it's so funny now when we're like when you know like the the I think most people have a pretty good grasp or understanding of the history of the mob right like the idea the mob basically was born out of oppression.
01:32:48
Speaker
um It was they they were kind of like relegated to the outskirts of society because no one liked the Italian immigrants and shit like that. The mob starts. They end up gaining control. They do it nefariously. Like the cops end up being like, actually, what they're doing is way better than what we got going on. We'll buy in. We'll do this. like It's all like protectionist. It all was born out of like what I mean.
01:33:16
Speaker
community organizing. But so the idea of like, you know, you think of the United health care CEO, like the the words that are so infamously correlated to the mob is like, it's not personal. It's just business. Right. And now that's the world we live in. We live in that world with like, when you when you have for profit health care.
01:33:38
Speaker
and you put Anything, any any basic human right that you turn into a for-profit is like, well, look, it's not personal. it is We're running a business here. What do you want? And you go, yeah, the problem is that shouldn't be a business. ah Whether or not someone comes and sets your convenience store on fire because you didn't pay your dues to an organization that's not doing anything to protect you, like that's not business.
01:34:00
Speaker
That's extortion, and which I guess is business in, you know, 2000, whatever America, but it is interesting to see, to see our legalized forms of business really go full
Healthcare System Critique
01:34:15
Speaker
mob.
01:34:15
Speaker
It's just, um they just they they truly have the protection of the government. They have the protection of the police. They can do whatever they want. They can deny your claim. There are no repercussions for these people. And what? An investigation of some sort? Like from what? From what government agency? One that Trump dismantled maybe. There was the Consumer Protection Bureau. That's gone.
01:34:39
Speaker
uh maybe back a little bit definitely not going to stay like there's nothing that the government is going to do to protect us from these organizations that pay their fucking campaign bills we're done for dude and then you go like but for me i this is where my huge conflict comes in and i'm i'm not saying this facetiously uh genuinely conflicted i've been a strong proponent for non-violent action Uh, for all of my life, that's not all of it. You know, when I was a teenager, I was, I bought into the turn, the middle East into a glass parking lot, writer, Rick. But as a, as a thinking person as 19, 20, 21 becoming an adult, I drifted into this idea.
01:35:24
Speaker
that nonviolence is the is the best way to manage and deal with these problems based on you know the repercussions and results of both nonviolent and violent revolutions. You see these things. I've already talked about how trying to assassinate a potential presidential nominee is only going to increase their chances of winning. like ah A lot of times, violence is counterintuitive. It's just a base human reaction, and it's counterintuitive to a movement.
01:35:52
Speaker
but the shit that has me like i questioning a lot is uh and you can take it too far certainly probably I should say but like with the Luigi shit in the United Health it's like dude what are you supposed to do?
01:36:08
Speaker
What are you supposed to do when you can't vote for anyone who will protect you? you can't you can't is there are there is nothing There is nothing we can do to fix this unless you make these people scared. And um i don't I don't want to believe in a world that is solved by assassination. I think that only ends up in a terrible place.
01:36:35
Speaker
but maybe a couple every here and there doesn't cause a huge problem. i think it's going to be interesting to see like there was almost no talk of healthcare care this election cycle. I mean, it's not like the Democrats ran on any sort of platform to help the situation. There's like an occasional like nod towards like, we need to make prescription drugs cheaper, which is, it's says it nothing like get out of here, you know? and And it's crazy because that's been a part of political campaigns in our lifetime. Like that was a major part of like Obama's run and stuff like that. But
01:37:14
Speaker
I think what the, what the Luigi things showing is like, there is a bipartisan sense of resentment towards the healthcare care industry. That is like palpable. I mean, there is nobody there's, I haven't talked to a single person, conservative liberal, whatever that we're like, it's just really sad. It's just really sad what they did. You know, like nobody cares that this guy's dead. Everybody hates the health of your industry.
01:37:43
Speaker
It used to be like back during the Obama years and stuff like, I mean, I was, but you know, definitely more of a like, talk radio conservative at the time, you know, was right. Still in the church and stuff. And like, the arguments about healthcare care were You know liberal left-leaning people arguing that like, you know, we should have a better health care system That's available to everybody that doesn't have pre-existing conditions and stuff like that, right? Versus conservatives who are like we have the best health care system in the world I mean, you know don't interrupt our health. We provide the best care. We have the best drugs. We develop the most this we do the Nobody's making that argument anymore
01:38:25
Speaker
Like, no, they're, you're right. They're not, it's not there. And so like, I think what this is showing is that like, everyone hates this and the pain level is getting high enough to where people are going to demand something out of them. You know, somebody is going to take that and run with it. I think Bernie's doing it right now. He's, he's got a lot of like public momentum right now, just talking about it.
01:38:48
Speaker
Other politicians in the next election cycle are going to pick up on that, run on it in the midterms. like There's going to be way more talk about it because of what happened here and just what it unearthed about like American sentiment towards the healthcare industry. Nobody's defending what we have anymore. so it It used to be that people would be like, yeah the complaint I heard 15 years ago,
01:39:15
Speaker
16, 17 years ago was like, Oh, what do you want to do socialize? you You go to Canada, you wait nine months to see a specialist, which also, by the way, I was friends with Canadians. And that was never true. That was never true. But that's what I would say. Yeah, they would say you would wait nine months to see a specialist. I had Canadian friends who were like, No,
01:39:39
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And they weren't unreal. They were like, yeah, it's a little bit longer than America. You know, it might take you a month. But even now, dude, look at now. Like, if you want to see a specialist, you're about nine months out in the United States. It's not good.
01:39:56
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like seeing a specialist for anything you want oh you want mental health care you're on a year-long laden list bitch like dude there is nothing good right now about the healthcare whatever was good 15 years ago what when it came to promptness is no longer true yeah you like like just being at the doctor's with my wife trying to get an appointment with the OBGYN she wanted no availability nothing like it we it was so annoying to try to figure this shit out and then you have to go all right we're gonna make all of our appointments for the rest of the year like dude
01:40:35
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whenever we were told about like, oh, you're gonna wait, not no. you have If you try to get in with any specialist in the United States, you're gonna be waiting a while unless they think that like maybe your case is serious enough where they might be able to write a paper about it and get more funding. But like it's just not good and it's not the doctor's fault. And for a while it was like, we have the best doctors. Why? Because we're willing to pay them. That was a badge of honor.
01:41:02
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15 years ago you go to europe you don't make that much you they come here cuz the best doctors in the world come here and they make a ton of money and that was like a big everyone bragged about that and now you go Oh yeah, but I don't even have good enough health insurance to go see the best doctors anymore. And that doctor's not taking new patients. well and it's like i That's like saying like, you want defense cuts? You want to take food out of the troops mouths? It's like, no. I want to cut funding to all these stupid defense contractors that that soak up our our every every bit of economic output that we have and give us nothing in return.
01:41:41
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That's what I want to cut defense funding for it's like you want to you know our doctors are good because they make a lot of money It's like Fine, that's fine. okay yeah Nobody's talking about doctor's pay here. We're talking about this horrible middleman scumbag industry that you've created, these insurance companies that offer nothing. They offer nothing and all they do is you've let them co-write legislation that forces all of us to to pay half of our paychecks to them.
01:42:13
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yeah for literally nothing. All because we're so afraid of cancer. You can tell me to walk it off. yeah know Maybe you should get a little more sun.
01:42:24
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yeah Dude, I was driving through this like horrible town. it This whole is exactly the kind of town we were talking about earlier in the middle, like like in central Kansas, where it like literally, like I don't know what people do for a living there, but I think it might be like carrying open buckets of oil to the pipeline.
01:42:43
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and like I was driving through this comfy town and there's like ah somebody had like a sign in their front yard that says honk if socialism sucks.
01:42:54
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yeah I almost turned around and take a picture of it and I Dude, that's not nearly as good as the one I have in my yard, which is crank your hog if socialism sucks.
01:43:09
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That one rips, dude. The amount of buy the amount people who drive by my house and just start cranking it, dude, it's safe. We should try to get like a meme, you know, Harambe thing going for this like healthcare care CEO, like dongs out for, you know, Bertrand Lewis or whatever his name was.
01:43:29
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Oh my God. Well. This is both on final ah final announcement. I meant to make this at the top, but you might have noticed the absence of our friend Jeremiah lately. Well, Jeremiah has been cucked by his organization. I don't know how else to say it. ah He know is ah it's it's become.
01:43:56
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We've never talked about where he works and we won't, um but it's for a place that might not appreciate some of the conversations that ah we have here. and some of the takes that we have, despite him being a very reasonable man and being an exemplary ah person, i exemplary what? What's the word I'm looking for? ah Stand up person from his community. I don't know. yeah Stalwart citizen. Yeah, stalwart. He's doing the thing. he's ah He's quelling our crazy. I think he does a great job and I'm going to miss having him around because
01:44:34
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You know, Casey that come from different standpoints. I think he bridges the gap sometimes. I think he does a great job being like, you know, really fleshing out what we're trying to get at ah him and I have a great ah tit for tat rivalry going where we try to hurt each other's feelings. And I'm going to miss that. I feel like I was winning. I feel like I made him my bitch a couple of times, honestly. And that's just a bummer that I can't keep doing that for everybody.
01:45:02
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um But yeah, I don't know we might we're we're trying we're working on him. I I mean we threatened to blackmail him and put all of where his business out there and ah You know send every episode he's been on to his organization, but I don't know it didn't work I think it maybe just put a riff to our friendship more. He was like, oh you guys aren't very good friends i Blackmail turns out isn't a great way to to to keep things going the way you want. ah So I don't know. We're just trying to ah you know see see what's next. ah We're trying to see if he'll he'll return here and there. but
01:45:40
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ah Given an updated, ah I don't know, what's the but a employee handbook policy ah of the company that he works for. Yeah, it's just a like it's a liability to him. Yeah, it's concerning for him. And that's fair. I get it. You know, it's concerning for me too, because if this does get out with my full name and where I work, I will lose my job. So shut the fuck up, everybody.
01:46:06
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But yeah, that's why that's why he hasn't been on recently.
Podcast Reflection and Gratitude
01:46:09
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we We love Jeremiah. He's so much fun. And we were very ah sad that he that he had to step back, but we we wish him well. We do. And we wanted to mention it because we didn't want to just let it disappear and everyone be like, oh, I guess they're not friends anymore. I guess it's things got weird. Maybe Sam and him really started to hate each other.
01:46:34
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um I mean, Jeremiah's love for cars annoys the shit out of me. He's pretty basic when it comes to cars. I think he's kind of a basic bitch. He just talks about him with such a fucking hard on all the time. It's annoying. But, you know, that's one of the, that's just one little thing about him. Now you're just taking shots that he can't respond to. And when I say little, I mean very little. When he gets hard for cars, it is not big.
01:47:00
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But i do I do love him despite the size of him. And i i do wish ah I do wish I could say this to him in person. And I'm sad that he's just going to have to listen to it. and you know I'm hoping that maybe his desire to defend himself and stand his ground like a good libertarian. I think he's a libertarian. I don't know. Oh, boy. I think it might bring him back. He's going to be seething.
01:47:29
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I think oh is that this is just you trying to bait him back and defend himself look all right one last episode boys I'm gonna set the record straight that's what I'm hoping for but yeah hopefully his internship at info wars goes well and you know We wish you all the best. Oh my God. Love you, Jeremiah. ah Speaking of which, um i okay i once in a while I think about like okay what would my stage name be if I was an adult film star. she got my My new favorite, Splooge McCuck. Splooge McCuck.
01:48:21
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That's so sick, dude. I don't know when you thought of that. I'm sure it was somewhere between mile markers in the middle of nowhere, New Mexico. A hundred percent. You thought about diving into a pile of cash, then diving into a pile of cum. Dude, that will be the UnitedHealthcare CEO, porn parody, starring Splooge McCuck.
01:48:47
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guys Oh, my word. Anyways, happy new year, everybody. We hope ah we hope it goes well for all of you. We hope this is the best year of your life. And then it's all downhill from here. OK. And we we wish you no nuclear war and ah total health care coverage. That's what we that's what we that's our wish for you on this ah New Year's Day.
01:49:17
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And if you do have a bunker, despite our well wishes, if it becomes necessary, feel free to hit us up on Instagram. I mean, I have soon to be too improve six people in my family ah that would need shelter. Casey only has two, some dogs and shit, but like, what's the unnecessary they are? I think in the survival situation, though, I'm willing to be the first one to suggest human meat.
01:49:44
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over dog meat? Yeah. You yeah eat you can eat my dogs, but I'll help you kill somebody and eat them. You would eat your wife before you ate your dogs.
01:49:55
Speaker
I'll meet somebody else's wife. but Yeah, you will. All right. Well, yeah, if you have a bunker, just hit us up. We don't know where things are going. I think we'll be okay, but I'd like a backup plan. Otherwise, ah happy new year. ah It's nice to do. I feel so dumb and weird when we skip a week. I do truly, despite four years of of trying to figure out where we're going with this. I fucking still love this, dude. Every time people ask me about it, they're like, oh, how's it going? I'm like, it's great. I still love it. And they're like, okay. like I don't know what else you want from me. i like It's just so fun. I think it's so fun to have this relationship, ah maintain this relationship with Casey. I love the people we've met along the way. We have some
01:50:48
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great episodes coming up in January with people who have become our friends through this. I could have been happier for how this has turned out. I'm glad we're celebrating four years of having a cool thing going on here. And I'm very, very thankful for everyone who has listened. Yep. Ditto. Thanks for listening and happy 2025 to everybody.