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Understanding Your Genetic Gym Code - a conversation with Tony Tripp Parks
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Tony ‘Tripp ‘ Parks is a Genetic-Based Programme Director, the author of Health Profiling, and at the time of recording the CEO of Ascend Performance Training in Denver Colorado USA.
Tripp is also the founder of Through Fire Wellness Solutions.
In this episode of the Abeceder podcast Fit For My Age Tripp explains to host Michael Millward the origins of the Comprehensive Wellness Profile that he developed to explain how our genetic make-up influences and impacts our health, well-being and fitness.
Using straight-forward examples Tripp explains why some people can build muscular physiques whilst other people can spend more time in the gym but never see a change.
This genetic foundation of our health and fitness explains Tripp is the reason why we should never compare ourselves to others in the gym or at the doctor’s surgery.
Genetics are says Tripp the reason why every health and fitness plan should be as unique as the person who will follow the plan.
Michael and Tripp explore various issues around health and fitness management and how what we mean by being fit and body image has changed over the last 100 years.
Find out more about Michael Millward and Tony ‘Tripp’ Parks at Abeceder.co.uk.
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Introduction to Podcast and Host
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Made on Zencastr. Hello and welcome to Fit for My Age, the health and well-being podcast from Abysida. I'm your host, Michael Millward, Managing Director of Abysida.
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Purpose of Fit for My Age Podcast
00:01:11
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Very importantly, on Fit For My Age, we won't be telling you what to think, but we do hope to make you think. Today, my guest, who I met on Matchmaker.fm, is Tripp Parks.
Meet Tripp Parks and Ascend Performance Training
00:01:25
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Tripp is one of the owners of a gym in Denver, Colorado, the Mile High City, which is called Ascend Performance Training. It's a sort of localized name, but we'll find out a little bit more about why it's called Ascend Performance Training.
00:01:41
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One of the I should point out is that if you can hear anybody playing any music or ah music, which sounds if they're rehearsing, they are, they are rehearsing. it's pet It's members of the team at Ascend Performance Training in Denver rehearsing so that they can go off and play some concerts in retirement homes, which I think is brilliant.
00:02:01
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But they're very busy rehearsing another part of the gym. And hopefully we won't pick up any sound that affect your enjoyment of my conversation with Tripp. who I am now going to say hello to Hello, Tripp.
00:02:14
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Hey, how's it going? Thank you so much for having me on. I'm really, really very well. Thank you very much. I did a personal best in the gym this morning. So I am very, very pleased with myself.
00:02:25
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Thank you. Nice. What'd you do? um I am just, I have just started a new program and um Tuesday is bench press day, chest day, upper body day.
00:02:37
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And um last week I was struggling to do 60 kg on the, on the bench press. And this week I did 65. Nice, man. That's awesome.
00:02:50
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I know. Isn't it just, I'm really chuffed. That's awesome. It really sort of like um highlights that progress is there to be had. if you If you want to make the progress, you can. You just have to put the effort in in many ways.
00:03:07
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But of the things I haven't told people so far is that although you run a gym in Denver, Colorado, you're also the creator of something which is very interesting, which is called the Complete Wellness Profile.
00:03:20
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which we're going to find out more about. But before we do, could you please give us a little potted history of Trip Parks?
Journey into Genetics and Football
00:03:29
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Yeah, sure. um Trip, I'm 32 years old. i grew up in Northern Virginia.
00:03:34
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um My fitness story started when I was 12 years old. My brother is 18 years older than me. We had nothing in common besides going besides fitness, so he dragged my butt to the gym. I fell in love with it. I started writing workouts at 15. I started doing full programs in college. I was the unofficial health chair for my fraternity, Sigma Pi.
00:03:54
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During college, I started working for my brother in supplementation. After college, I got a degree in communications at Radford University. I went to work for him for a few months. We got into genetics so a little bit.
00:04:06
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When you say you went to work for your brother for a few months and then you got into genetics, was that sort of like a clash of the genetics? you brother Brothers working together? I've got two of them. Well, as you know, being a fellow brother, it's butt heads a lot.
00:04:22
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We do, we do. We can get away with it as well, I think. And that's that's kind of what happened too, is you know he had one direction he wanted to go with his company and I wanted to go a different direction.
00:04:33
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i understood that understanding what's going on in our body at that time is like 2016 was huge. And even at that time with as little as genetics were being used and the tests that were out there, they're still extremely usable. So i ended up leaving his company and started my own company called the Protein Bar in Northern Virginia, where I sold supplementation, genetic testing.
00:04:52
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And I had a shake shop in the back, which was the worst idea ever because food and safety is terrible.
00:04:59
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This is true. But, you know, yeah yeah i call that the most expensive lesson I've ever learned. But I was getting in genetics and those kind of things. it was It was kind of hard for people to understand what you could do with genetics, the you know, the abilities. So was kind of hard for me. So I started going to professional football tryouts to try to get the, Hey, listen, you're almost there to make it into American football.
00:05:21
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Why don't we get you genetically tested? Those kinds of things. And I was already on my genetic program for about a year at that point. And the second professional tryout I went to was the rival professional football league. Um, actually got drafted.
00:05:33
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Cool. Congratulations. Thank you. It was a huge surprise to me. But it was a lifelong dream of mine to play um American football, especially at the professional level. And I put all that genetics and supplementation aside. closed protein bar, did that for a season. At
Creation and Philosophy of Ascend Performance Training
00:05:49
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26 years old, I got beat up pretty bad.
00:05:51
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But I did that first season, then I went back to work for my brother a little while, we butted heads again. um i ended up in Denver during COVID. And during COVID, about 2022, my mom had a stroke turned dementia and I had to fly home to go take care of her, um stay with her for about six months. And this is where Ascend really started.
00:06:09
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I was taking her to doctor's appointments and you know therapy, all these different things. And I realized that there were so many other people out there that are having similar issues, cardiovascular disease, cancer, metabolic disease.
00:06:21
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And most of these are preventable if we just take care of ourselves. So was my goal taking care of my mom know to figure out what the nucleus of this problem was and and try to figure out how I i could prevent you know someone else from having to change their parents' diapers like I have.
00:06:35
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That took me down a road of getting certified in genetic based program design, nutrition, strength and conditioning, personal training, elite trainer, certified health and conditioning coach, anything I can get my hands on to try to figure out what the problem was.
00:06:48
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And what I found was the biggest problem is that we are using a fishnet approach. ah You know, hey, listen, everyone do a calorie deficit, do keto, do this and that. It's that we need to look at this problem individualistically. And and that's where health profiling came about.
00:07:02
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was writing a book and I didn't really know how it all fit together. And I realized that there's all these different pieces of wellness that we leave aside. How's your sleep? How's your hormones? What about your blood work? What about your stress? And all these all these are factors into our overall health being.
00:07:16
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So I ended up moving back to Denver for a job. I met my now business partner. We hated corporate wellness. And we decided to start our own business. And we called it Ascend Performance Training because we believe that there is not a pinnacle yet reached for health and wellness. We're still in this idea of something happens to us and then we take care of it instead of what we're doing as preventive care.
00:07:35
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So we came up with we we came up a use a usable ah ah usable ah form for health profiling where we take genetic tests, blood work, biomechanical assessment, and medical history, and we jumble it all together.
00:07:51
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Cross reference each of those information and come up with an individualized program called the comprehensive wellness profile where we tell you exactly how i need to work out how you need to work out, how you need to eat, stressors, sleep, nutrition, cardiovascular disease, cancer risk, metabolic risk, ancestry, just the whole shebang because we realize that there's all these different pieces that people aren't putting together.
00:08:11
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I know this long winded, I'm sorry. No, no, no, no. It's very interesting because if understand you correctly, when you ended up being drafted onto the professional football team, American football, part of the process for that was in a genetic was a genetic assessment.
00:08:29
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um Actually, no. Before but I got into genetics before that and was working for my brother, he was getting into science based supplementation. And genetics were genetics were kind of on the tip of that iceberg of understanding genetics affect how we take supplementation.
00:08:44
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So what I was doing was I was going to different American football professional tryouts and trying to sell this genetic genetic test to them, but ended up getting drafted. So I put all that to the side at that point.
00:08:56
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Right, okay. But if i understand you correctly, the genetics would determine whether you would be ah great football player or a great baseball player or a great swimmer in exactly the same way as the genetics would help to identify what health risks you have stored in your body and then what you can do to avoid triggering those health risks.
00:09:24
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And that's going to help us to even with, let's say, youth sports, we're able to see the potential injury risk. there's a There's a genetic allele or indicator called COLA15, I believe, that has a direct correlation with tendinopathy, Achilles ruptures, ACL ruptures, shoulder separation.
00:09:43
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And if we understand that, then we can create a prehab program for these kids instead of them ever having to rehab. an awful lot of health care and i'm aware that you're in denver colorado which is right in the middle of the united states i think and i'm in the united kingdom where we have the national health service and you have a completely different way of funding health care in the united states but In both countries, our healthcare is very often focused on you have symptoms, we are going to do this to relieve the symptoms.
00:10:18
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What you are advocating within Ascend Performance Training
Debunking Standardized Health Advice
00:10:22
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and with your complete comprehensive wellness profile is that we can prevent health issues arising if we understand more about how our bodies work, operate, and the risks that we have stored up inside our bodies.
00:10:41
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Absolutely. And I use i use the like the metaphor, you know, your car, right? And there's there's two things. I was just going to come up with a ah car-related metaphor, you know, but please, you you go first.
00:10:54
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well there's there's I love that, man. I i knew i knew I liked you.
00:10:59
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It's genetic.
00:11:03
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That was good That was good, man. um But yeah, so there's for for me, there's two different aspects of the car, right? The first one is, it's kind of obvious, is maintenance. If we don't take care of our car, it falls apart.
00:11:14
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And the same goes for our bodies and ourselves. If we don't take care of our bodies, they're going to fall apart. And it's happening more and more. As well as, there's another metaphor for that. It's, you know, imagine removing all the GPSs out of your vehicles nowadays.
00:11:29
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i Everyone would be perpetually lost, right? yeah So for for me, this is the this is this is the next evolution in what health is. And and what what I mean is health 1.0 was us understanding that God or gods do not create disease as bacteria.
00:11:44
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and and and and those kind of things, right? our so Our second phase or health 2.0 was us understanding that that sanitation was really big. And that's the late 1800s, early nineteen hundreds Hey, listen, everything's got to be clean, got to stay sanitary, all those kind of things.
00:11:59
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And then um the next stage, health 3.0, which we're trying we're kind of getting into right now, is preventive cares. How do we prevent things before they happen? How do we take care of ourselves now?
00:12:10
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Right. Because typically, you you know, think about a lot of people, the reason they don't do health or wellness is, oh, it's so expensive, this and that. Well, you know, it's not if something's going to happen, it's when. And when it does happen, it's going to be way more expensive than someone spending $25 a month on a gym membership and getting a personal trainer.
00:12:25
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So for us, it's it's and it's really about understanding that perspective change. Yes. Yeah. the The motoring metaphor, the cars is a really appropriate one. Because listening to you, I was thinking like,
00:12:38
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know, my body is like the fanciest sports car. I'm i'm British, so i'm going to say an Aston Martin, a Jaguar, that sort of thing, right? They're finely tuned engineering, know, and just like my body.
00:12:53
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And if I treat the car engine correctly, it will sail through its annual MOT, which is a test that we have for every car over three years old in the UK.
00:13:04
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It will sail through. But if I let the oil level drop if i don't replace a windscreen wiper if i if i don't care about the car it's not going to pass when i come to sell it i won't make as much money money out of it because it's not in as good condition as it could be and it's the same type of thing with our bodies is like we have to understand the potential of our bodies i understand that the jaguar the aston martin the bentley are designed for a particular thing and
00:13:38
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because of our individual genetics, each one of us, is designed for a different type of thing, like you said, the different types of sports. And ah to be cold-hearted about it in some ways, our genetics will determine the conditions that our bodies might develop and might kill us.
00:13:58
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But if we understand that and we take the right make the right decisions, we can either prevent that happening or we can delay it happening.
00:14:12
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Exactly. And, you know, it it also for me, this, this idea, this preventive care, this understanding of individualization, as well as standardization, right? I mean, health is not standardized. If you go to, you know, five different personal trainers or five different nutritionists, you're gonna get five different answers on how to get healthy.
00:14:28
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Right. I mean, that's that's that's just that's just that's just the case. So for us, its again, understanding that we're all individuals and we have different issues, our bodies are going to be different, our blood levels, those kind of things. Everything's going to be different for certain things. And once we understand that, then we can really target what that person is going through instead of throwing everybody into a fishnet. Hey, listen, this is how this is how you be healthy.
00:14:49
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Well, for some of us, that's not the case. ah Take take an allele. It's RS one, two, six, seven, eight, nine, one, nine. It's basically a fat-burning variant that's missing that's missing in a lot of northern European white women.
00:15:01
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In this fat-burning gene, you could do seven hours worth of cardio and not burn the same amount of fat as someone who does have that fat-burning gene. But what does that what does that mean for back in our ancestors, especially northern Europe, is they needed that fat to survive the harsh winters.
00:15:16
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right So that person might get their blood work back. Hey, your triglycerides look good. Your A1C looks good. They might look a little overweight. So, you know, what what does what does health mean at that point? What is health, right? Is it our body shape? Is it blood work?
00:15:29
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We're trying to define that by standardizing by standardizing the energy industry.
00:15:34
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Yes, and standardizing, like say, because everybody is different, doesn't work. When you know you mentioned that you can visit five different personal trainers and each one of them will give you a different definition of how to be healthy, I'm reminded that as an HR professional, I've employed trainers in my team, business trainers, and what they wanted to do was when analyzing training needs, they would always find that there was a need for the course that they really enjoyed running.
00:16:06
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Right. and They like delivering that training course. So there would always be a need to deliver that training course. And when you mention about you visit five personal trainers and each one will give you a different definition, I'm thinking, well, yeah, they're going to give me the definition or the the the program that I need to do that they're going to suggest is going to be the one that will use the equipment that they've got.
00:16:29
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that we'll have, you know we have a pool, so you need to swim. We have a trampoline, you should try trampolining. Regardless of whether it's right for me or not, what we're talking about is this understanding where we are, where we could go, and then being able to ask more intelligent questions or be able to ask more informed questions of the people that we are going to be working with as personal trainers.
00:16:57
Speaker
ah Exactly. yeah Exactly. What this process is going to do for us in the health and wellness industry, it doesn't matter if you're a personal trainer, PT, nutritionist, supplementation supplementation expert, it's going to help you get get get get your clients to where they want to faster as well as more effectively.
00:17:14
Speaker
you know so so so So for us, with these fad diets, workouts, and supplements, all these things, it's creating frustration and anxiety. you know, depression and a lot of these people's like, well, this is working for this person. Why isn't it working for me?
00:17:28
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And that's, that's creating a hell loop. It's like, all I get motivated. I do 21 days of keto and then I didn't see any results. So I quit and I'm going to double down on, you know, me being, you know, my bad activity instead of us being like, listen, there there's 20 different aspects of this comprehensive wellness profile, sleep, health, whatever.
00:17:44
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If we're just doing 5% on each board, that's an a hundred percent increase all across the board. yes So for us, again, it's just looking at, it's looking at health at a different aspect and different perspective because we haven't been looking at it in a healthy way, you know especially, especially here in America.
00:17:58
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think it's
Genetic Testing for Personalized Health
00:17:59
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probably all over the world, but because I think we all chase that ideal. There is a, um, there is a norm or, um, the marketing machine the fashion industry, the,
00:18:13
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but but all sorts of industries tell us that men look like this and women look like so this and if you look back over time you can see that the eye the shape of the ideal man has changed over time and those time periods can be fairly short if you go to the 70s and look at what pop stars rock stars like you had people like David Bowie the thin white juke type of image so very lean um almost skinny you then move forward and you go to the rock singers now have to have broad shoulders big pecs tight abs all this sort of stuff a much more defined muscular shape is the perceived of what is ideal what is desirable what is
00:19:01
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you know, what we're supposed to be like. And yet what we're supposed to be like is what we are supposed to be like. There is an element within this is like, yeah, I understand.
00:19:12
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Go through the complete comprehensive wellness profile, understand my body a lot more, understand what it is that it will be capable of doing when I go to the gym.
00:19:23
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ignoring what other people are capable of. But like you say, there's still a bit of work in there, isn't there? A bit of psychological work to get people to really understand that my definition of best is going to be completely different to what the marketing machine and what somebody else in the gym might be able to achieve.
00:19:43
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Exactly. And that's it's such a hard thing to do is change people's perspectives and perception of what that is because we've been brainwashed for so long. It's like, hey, it's calories in, calories out.
00:19:53
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We're going to demonize fat. We're going to demonize carbs. It's like it's not about demonizing anything. It's about understanding what works best for us. Some of us, a low carb diet works best. Some of us, a low fat diet works best.
00:20:04
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You know, again, it's just about understanding us at a deeper level. Yes. And being able to apply that to make it to make it effective because people are frustrated. Yeah. You know, and there's something's got to give. Yeah. When we say the you know the comprehensive wellness profile will help people with all of these things.
00:20:20
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Is there a shortcoming in it? what's what's the What's the thing about the comprehensive wellness profile that you are working on improving at the moment? The biggest thing is that we're getting data so fast.
00:20:32
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Right. So even the the tests that we use, we partnered up with GenePlanet. They're in the UK as well. I've been in the UK and Europe as well. um is that the they do something called whole genome sequencing, which means we only know about 4% of the entire human genome as we know it right now. And even with that 4%, we can do a lot with it.
00:20:52
Speaker
But as we're going along, as we're learning these these new genomes, let's say the Mayo Clinic here in America discovers a new allele and how it reacts with certain genome types or what makes us us, is they update the genetic profile for you, which other companies don't do.
00:21:06
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So that our issue is that there's so much information coming in that we need to get this to a digital platform like an app where we can use AI and other things to integrate things faster. So for us, it's it's just information is happening so fast and this and preventive care is happening so fast.
00:21:21
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it's It's hard to put everything we want to in this profile. I know, but what you're saying is like, there's just this, the basic flow of information, the way in which the science is developing at the moment means that you have an immense amount of data, which you data processing is the challenge at the moment.
00:21:40
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But as an individual, you can still provide people with a very comprehensive wellness profile, which takes into account all of their, well, we've already told you, but all of their history, the way their body works, how their body's made, and actually create program for them, which will help them to achieve the optimum level of personal health and well-being and fitness.
00:22:07
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And a really good example that too is one of, one of our, one of our alleles or tests for the genetics is understanding your metabolism for certain vitamins and minerals, right? So like ah you hear this all the time online, make sure you're taking your vitamin D, your vitamin K, take this and that. And well, for some of us, we might not need that.
00:22:25
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yes Right? Some of us metabolize things a lot different. And I'm seeing a lot, especially in white people is a lower metabolism for vitamin D. So what I do is I take the blood work, Hey,
00:22:36
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yeah Let's get your blood work done. What's your vitamin D at? And if someone is taking vitamin D already and their blood's not optimal, you're going to have to probably take more because you don't metabolize it right. as As well as where where should you be getting your vitamin D from? If you've got a high ah high propensity for sunspots, melanoma, basal cells, skin cancer, you probably shouldn't be getting a majority your vitamin D from the sun. yes So it's it's it's understanding how we metabolize things, how how our body utilizes things, um as well as so as what what is the source, right? What is the source that we need to get it from? Because we might be putting ourselves in risk. Yes, I can appreciate that.
00:23:11
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Like you say, there's lots and lots of data. It is changing all of the time. And yeah yet the benefits from having something like a comprehensive wellness profile done can be huge.
Accessing Ascend Services
00:23:23
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You are in Denver, though. Beautiful city, I'm sure. Never been. But I remember it from the ah the dynasty, or you say dynasty type of programs, right?
00:23:34
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But imagine that there's somebody who isn't in Denver. ah How can they can it contact you? How can they participate in the type of things that you're doing? So we provide online services as well as in-person.
00:23:50
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um Virtual is a lot it quite a bit different, but we can still facilitate for anybody that's interested in coming out. You can find us at ascendperformancetraining.com. You can email me at tripascendpt at gmail.com.
00:24:03
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um as well as we have a podcast that we put out. It's been a little hit or miss here the past few months because it's been so busy, but we have Health or High Water where we try to have some people come and talk about genetics and oxygen intake, PT, pelvic floor, those kind of things. Or you can just stop in and and and and Denver if you're in the area. It's 1472 Jersey Street here in Denver. Love to see you.
00:24:27
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But yeah, there there's there's kind quite a few places yeah i'll and social media too, Send Performance Training, but we're all over the We'll put some links in the description to all of those.
Episode Conclusion and Resources
00:24:35
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It certainly has been a very interesting trip.
00:24:38
Speaker
um Thank you very much. Really enjoyed it. I've learned a lot. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. It's been a pleasure. Thank you. I am Michael Millward, the Managing Director of Abbasida. And in this episode of Fit for My Age, I have been having a conversation with Tripp Parks, who runs Ascend Performance Training in Denver, Colorado, USA, and is the creator of the the Comprehensive Wellness Profile.
00:25:05
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You can find out more about both of us at abasida.co.uk. There is a link in the description. I must remember to thank the team at matchmaker.fm for introducing me to Tripp.
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All that remains for me to say is until the next episode of Fit For My Age, thank you for listening and goodbye.