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Wildcard Wednesday - The Roll Call: a mental health show
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Hello everyone! Tonight all four amazing Wildcard hosts will be in the house and will be bring you all a mental health discussion! What's the topic? Well, tune and find out!!!!
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Introduction to Mental Health and Addiction
00:00:31
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Well, that intro wasn't as tight as I wanted, but welcome to another Wednesday night of wildcard-ness. Ha! No wildcard Wednesday, guys. How's everybody doing?
00:00:43
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How's everybody doing? Michael, Whitney, Glick, how are y'all doing? Wonderful. Wonderful, wonderful. i So this is, ah this is a course, wildcard Wednesday, so what flavor or treat are you getting today?
00:01:00
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Mental health. It's going to be mostly around um addiction, though. We're going to kind of do a little roll call. got the hosts up here, um and we're going to talk about addiction. I think we all have have have some experiences with it, um and we're going to go around discuss different topics topics of of of addiction. But before we do that, I do want to read off ah the official definition.
00:01:29
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So that way we're all kind of working on the same same um sound same foundation. I also want to point out that none of us are professionals. So whatever we say, please fact check us. Go to your actual health care providers.
00:01:42
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It's important. Mental health is very, very
Understanding Addiction: Definitions and Brain Chemistry
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important. Anyway, without further ado, addiction is ah in psychology is defined as a state of psychological and or physical dependences on substances like drugs or alcohol or behaviors such as gambling.
00:01:58
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It involves using a substance or engaging in a behavior that provides a compelling incentive to repeat the activity despite negative consequences. Addiction is often characterized by tolerance, withdrawal, and loss of control over the substance or behavior.
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It is recognized as a chronic medical disease that involves complex interactions among brain circuits, genetics, the environments, environment and the individual life experiences.
00:02:28
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So, that is that That is the textbook psychological definition of addiction, which is kind of what we're going be working with tonight.
00:02:38
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Michael, you had said you were looking into the brain chemistry. Yes. what What addiction does is it triggers dopamine centers, like the the active ingredient and whatever you're addicted to what action you're addicted to.
00:02:54
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In the example of gambling, just for instance, ah you You gamble and and you get that dopamine hit, and you want to do it again and again and again and again. You take intravenous drugs, you get that dopamine hit, you want to do it again and again and again.
00:03:06
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um in clinical clinical studies, right, they took rats. One bar was one color, it had their food pellets in it. One bar was a different color, it had like a direct, and not an injection, but a direct like infusion of opiate.
00:03:24
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They would starve to death. because they just sat there drooling, smashing the opiate bar over and over and over again. They didn't even care about food anymore. They were so dopamine blasted.
00:03:37
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yeah So yeah, addiction can be very self-destructive,
Personality, Dependency, and Societal Acceptance
00:03:40
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obviously. Well, we're not rats. my We really can't compare the brains to rats, really. Sure we can. Rats are smarter than us, if you ask me.
00:03:50
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i think I think basically what that is, that experiment, I mean, don't i mean, We're being compared to rats in the and in in in the vein of the dopamine release, that the dopamine hit. dopamine Yeah.
00:04:04
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I mean, rats rats use dopamine just like we do. Well, it's just like when I took human anatomy, I dissected the cat because they're like, that's whatever, back to brains.
00:04:17
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ands I find it interesting you dissected it. But yes, back to my head. Through continued use and or through continued behavior, your brain rewires itself right to to increase the wanting of that thing or drug or substance or whatever and in order or to ah billie maximize the dopamine hit.
00:04:42
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It makes you want to crave it on purpose, so it gets that dopamine crash. So from what I understand with the dopamine, is that your body gets dependent on we produce dopamine um naturally it is our it it's how when we fill it feel pleasure we like that right we absolutely love feeling pleasure and we find things pleasurable like playing video games and stuff but when it comes to addiction or gambling or or something like that but when you're doing an excess of
00:05:16
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your are brain is trained to only release dopamine when those when when when you're doing those things and when those things aren't available you're not getting that dopamine yet without that comes things like withdrawal like your depression um is uh or because that starts messing with i remember you're starting yeah nothing there so it's like it comes out badly chemical mix in your brain, the cocktail in your brain is so very finicky.
00:05:50
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You take one thing off a little bit, it tweaks other things off a little bit, and now you've got a haywire brain. You've got to retrain your brain to normal again. Which I can create arguments and things like you're not thinking straight, you make snap decisions or what, you know, but if you wake up after... i'm thinking more of like the alcohol or drugs thing.
00:06:13
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It's like when you come out of it, you realize like, no, that's not really what I fucking wanted. You know? And you kind of come out of it.
00:06:26
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You know, when you're sober off the drug, you realize that's not what you wanted? Yeah. Yeah. Regret comes with drug use.
00:06:38
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Right. Or addiction in general. Right. yeah Because, I mean... Yeah, why are you quiet? Why are you muted, dude? Oh, he's muted.
00:06:51
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Oh, okay. okay You haven't been saying shit, though. What are you doing, bro? I think he was sharing he was sharing out the... Oh, no, I was not sharing it. No, i was I was just listening. cool I want to make one thing abundantly clear before we really get into the meat of this.
00:07:07
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This is a show for the network about addiction. This is not some trap to get me here for my intervention. No, it really is. only serious No pretty excited, guys.
00:07:21
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no interventions now i you know i mean so interventions that I don't want to go into like how to help addiction just yet, but I do i would like to cover different types of addictions.
00:07:38
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I fucking think. Probably the most common addiction that people deal with, and we all have it. Right here. show i Caffeine.
00:07:50
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slash wow i was to say, that bottle is sugar and caffeine. Sugar is an addiction that a lot of us, that the majority of us have just based on...
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syrup yep exactly because it's our processed food diets that we eat you know we we don't have like have you ever like eaten a processed food diet for a while you're like you know i need to eat healthy you try to switch right away to like eating healthy foods yeah oh it's hard it is absolutely your your your body goes through withdrawals because yeah i literally by my friend's mom she had a surgery ah the but gastric bypass or whatever and so she had to quit all of that and she was like super addicted to it and now she can't fucking eat any of it like she'll look through things just so she can't have it because it is an addiction it really is that's not every addiction with the with the physical aspect right right
00:08:52
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And when I quit drinking Coca-Cola, when I quit Coke, drinking Coca-Cola, people thought, oh, man, did you have headaches? Did you have headaches? It didn't bother me. But I didn't switch completely.
00:09:05
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switched off the caffeine, but not the sugar so much because i was I went to tea, which is a lot less caffeine than a soda. A lot less. but i That sugar.
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But a lot less than
00:09:22
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It's interesting. i know this is I know we're going over like what helps. or We're not really going over what helps just yet, but you brought up tea.
Habits vs. Addictions and Gender Differences
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I think tea helps. Tea does help. It does. For sure. with different types and Different types of tea.
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and I love me some hot tea. Maybe that's the British in me. That's how it's going. You
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were going to go in.
00:09:51
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So Jersey brought up some some um different types of addictions. ah Caffeine, sugar, nicotine, gambling, sexual, different types of substances. Food, shopping, gambling, internet porn, or internet and porn, so many to mention.
00:10:08
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Yeah. So oftentimes, i and i'll I'll do this, I'll be like, oh, I don't have an addiction. It's a habit. like I have an addiction in nicotine. I haven't used nicotine in a long time.
00:10:22
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It's been over a year. but are not Close to a year. I had those pouches for a little bit. but and ah Nicotine is like my hugest addiction. I do have an issue with alcohol that I have to keep at bay. um I don't live a sober life per se. but i tried to What's it called? um Self-medicate?
00:10:46
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No, not self-medicate. Like when you're like, instead of like restricting your use of alcohol, you just, you sit, you use it safely. You know, you're, you're in recovery. I mean, I mean, I quit for a while.
00:10:58
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oh shoot. I forgot what the hell it's called. There's a, there's a name for the concept. Anyway, it'll come to me. No, I forgot what it is, but, um, um,
00:11:14
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Now, a lot of people will look at me and think that weed is my addiction. Weed, I will honestly say, is a habit. I will say is a habit. like I use it daily.
00:11:25
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But it's not an addiction. um Only because I don't use it. i don't use weed to escape reality. escape in reality Yeah, right, exactly. because I feel the same way. of course ah addictions yeah Addiction is not necessarily about escaping reality.
00:11:47
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Caffeine doesn't help me escape reality. I know I'm addicted to caffeine. No, I was... if for For me, my like my addiction is usually related to escaping. Well, there's also, I feel like, different types of ways that you can say what addiction is.
00:12:04
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Escaping reality or like, you know, different types of things, like getting off, like porn, you know, or, you know, all those different things. There's different types of... I don't think porn is an addiction.
00:12:17
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I think there's still some... I think there's a debate on that. I do. What's that? um What did you say you do? ah Exactly, Joseph.
00:12:30
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No, I'm just kidding. I need caffeine. I believe that... No, I got all the caffeine... I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, yeah I was reading the comment.
00:12:41
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I believe that when you need it. Yeah.
00:12:47
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I don't even know if it's that a need. No, i I kind of get that because like, I'm just going to say here. I did in high school do oxycodones for a little bit.
00:13:00
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to help with my sciatica and shit, but then I felt myself becoming like more dependent on it, and I was like, nah, fuck that. And I got rid of them, flushed them all down. I've got an addictive personality.
00:13:14
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I like to feel good. I've avoided meds and stuff like that for that purpose. that' Right, that's why i got rid of them. I like to like things too much already. Yeah, I was like, I'll stick to the plants.
00:13:27
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but That's an interesting point.
00:13:32
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What? Oh, what Michael is saying that that he knows he has an addictive personality.
Societal Influences and Personal Triggers
00:13:37
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Right. you know so So he knows to stay away from certain things. and i i And something I pretty much told my counselor last year is like that's kind of why I do stick to weed. I haven't i haven't touched other other things because I'm yeah afraid yeah I will like it too much.
00:13:55
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That's why I said I stick to the plants usually. And then some of the
00:14:03
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The dirty water. but think she's she's interchanging chemical dependency, physical dependency. Kind of the same thing. It's a chemical that makes you physically dependent upon it. Like the withdrawals from alcohol, the withdrawals from ah cocaine, withdrawals from your hardcore opiates, things like that.
00:14:21
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You get physically sick when you don't have it in you. Right. That's the withdrawals, yeah. And they they can be pretty fucking bad. I've had to deal with not me personally, but like other people, like seizures, and them not even like fucking remembering, being terrified that they're about to fucking die. like My uncle died from asphyxiation.
00:14:45
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You know what I mean? He was addicted to alcohol. and like ye Then having them find them him like on the floor, you know that shit's serious. i have and I have a friend, oh she passed and
00:15:05
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2016 2017 from a pill overdose and she was it's up yeah it's it's very scary um i just thinking about the people she loved like she had she she she had a kid that was just rough yeah this girl I just went to a fundraiser the other day it was she's dying from liver failure
00:15:37
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and because of drinking. So yeah, that's a whole fucking thing. Shit's rough.
00:15:48
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Yes. Oh, drinking.
00:15:52
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Sorry. I'm sorry. think No, you're good. Personality, in my opinion, can definitely contribute. i per I think when it comes to personality, I think, or personal, I think, well, I think I don't think you're too far off when you say personality though. I think that, that, that would maybe come into the lived experiences, upbringing, genetics and stuff like that. Because addiction, I mean, somebody just doesn't wake up one day and like, Oh, I'm an at addict.
00:16:21
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It's this, it's, it's this thing that over time happens to a person. And for different, like who you're around as well, like that influence you too. Sometimes it's depending on who you are.
00:16:35
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Everybody's different. Peer pressure or whatever. I get it. Yeah. Fitting in. Right. Fitting in. Trapped into that because they want to be cool or whatever.
00:16:49
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Over time. It's not something that happens overnight. Some people say that. Sometimes it is over time. europe Yeah.
00:17:00
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It definitely can happen immediately if you're doing like hard shit. For sure. I realized the first time I had a drinking problem was when I was stationed Alaska at the time.
00:17:12
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And that was like the thing to do during the winter was to drink and don't die. Those are your two options. probably in smoke cigarettes. yeah i but So I drank a lot.
00:17:28
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and know And I yeah went TDY to PSAB or Saudi Arabia. And it was there's no alcohol. And for two weeks, it was my first experience. I never had DTs, the drunken tremors.
00:17:41
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That shit was real. Yeah. Yeah, I've had that before. I definitely have that before. Some of the withdrawals from different drugs to me, knowing about the withdrawals have scared me from wanting to use those. Yeah.
00:18:01
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More so than the effects of the
Impact on Relationships and Recovery Journey
00:18:05
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drug. I guess you could say. Right. So like Michael was saying, like becoming aware of those types of things made him not want to do that stuff anymore. As much like, yeah, having mental awareness.
00:18:17
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Yeah. Yeah. That's about addiction. But the shit can fucking suck. You got that addiction. You are no longer really, I hate to use the word responsible, but it is. You kind of are no longer responsible for yourself.
00:18:31
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You trade everything for that addiction to feed that addiction. I mean, addiction addiction is a monster. It's a personal demon. But it doesn't, like, drugs don't destroy a life.
00:18:43
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They destroy lives. it's it's a It's a crash that leaves a week. Yes, for sure. and And it's, like, just, it is a demon. But also, like, just going back to the mental health thing. Like, it brings their brain into, like, a state that they don't know what the fuck they're doing.
00:19:01
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you know, they start stealing shit or, you know, like taking advantage of weed. Right. Yeah. And that's why I know I'm not addicted to weed.
00:19:13
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Like, if I'm out of weed and I'm broke, well, then guess I'm just waiting until I get paid before buy any more weed. I mean, I've, I pretty much set up to where I don't have to, but I've been in that situation. It's like, well, I guess I'm just waiting.
00:19:27
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guess I'll just wait till I get there. Yeah. Yeah. And even alcohol. alcohol fact not But hold on. for Okay. As a stoner, I will say the fact that you have to think that like of the time that you need to re-up, that is kind of an addiction.
00:19:47
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i don't think so. I think it's just it's planning ahead. I mean, like I said, I don't i don't use it. I use it for...
00:19:55
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I use it for medicinal use. That's just like if you're on any other medicine through the pharmacy, you're going to have your medicines on hand.
00:20:10
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I take Prilosec every day so I don't get heartburn. That doesn't make me addicted to Prilosec. It makes me addicted to not wanting heartburn.
00:20:19
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It's a medicine. It's a medicinal thing, right? That's different. we like what do you have mean like For me, weed is food.
00:20:27
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Knowing my mind and how I normally think is the reason I've never tried anything. Drugs. Weed is fine, but other stuff never tried. Now, Trench, I know you drink.
00:20:40
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That is a drug. Ethanol is a drug. It is a drug. It's an addiction. I'm not saying she's addicted al alcohol. I'm just saying alcohol is a drug.
00:20:53
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Technically, yeah. I know a few people who like to... I want to say something about microdosing shrooms real quick. lord i tried I tried to, to...
00:21:08
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but i just have the saying and then i just add me You need to go full force or not at all.
00:21:19
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That's what she said. Sorry, I had a weird experience with... all the way don't do it at Can I bring up the difference between like mental health shit with but between men and women?
00:21:35
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Sure. I'll allow it. Because I want to know your guys' stance on your stuff as well, because men's health is very important to me as well. i was great But still, I want to... Women are more likely to be diagnosed with depression, anxiety, and PTSD, while men are more likely to struggle with stuff substance abuse and are at higher risk of suicide completion.
00:22:04
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Mm-hmm. So like, it's like 40% of brain receptors are like higher in women because of their hormones and everything.
00:22:18
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And men have less, but that doesn't mean like, I'm not trying to like compare, make one better than the other by any means. I'm just like, there are comparisons and like, there are differences between how like women react to things and how men react to things.
00:22:35
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um so yeah so like with addiction like they're i don't know i feel like it's different
Mental Health Statistics and Spiritual Balance
00:22:48
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biggest distance between our brains work the biggest difference between men's mental health and women's mental health is the fact for so many years men have been told that we were not allowed to have feelings and have emotions. So the substance of this into play. No, agree. That's why I wanted to hear that. Because our anxiety and our depression was not validated. It was not valid because we are men and we're not supposed to feel that way.
00:23:10
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So we bury our emotions in alcohol and drugs. And that's wrong to be taught. Those are women's problems, son. Get yourself together. Shut the up, Sasha. I was raised like that.
00:23:22
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No, I get it. I get it, though. I'm 100% on that side with you, for sure. But where we where we are today, compared to 10, 15 years ago, you look at the statistics and the growing rate percentage rise for men being diagnosed with depression and anxiety is becoming is catching up with the with the female women's rate as well. because i believe it, but I... And people are talking more about it and and and trying to erase that stigma for men's mental health.
00:23:54
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The therapy of period has had a stigma to it. Don't you agree? Yeah. So I think that's... Yeah, no, I agree 100%. I mean, even even in some some geographical sections of this country, we still have that same mindset of you're a man,
00:24:09
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You're not allowed to feel this way. Suck it up, buttercup. That's where the substance abuse numbers are much higher in men than women. Also, suicide rates are so much higher because you reach that breaking point.
00:24:26
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and and and Whether it be the alcohol or drug of choice, it's no longer... it's no longer helping you numb the pain or numb whatever's going on and and and your final escape is to unalive yourself. So that's an unfortunate difference and downside.
00:24:44
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I mean, between men and women, because we all suffer from mental health at the end of the day. We all have issues when it comes to, it comes to our mental health, men, women, children, dogs, whatever the case may be. I was just trying to say it was different. I wasn't trying to like,
00:25:00
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make women, feminist shit. I was just saying. like there i don't think it was going down that road at all. Okay. I think I just answered your question. Physiology.
00:25:12
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Yeah. It's just ah genetic. And it's not even just even a female male thing. It's just everybody is fucking different in general. Genetics. right Yeah, genetics. Yeah, they come in a role because like you can get like bipolar disorder from but or family member or something, you know?
00:25:31
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It just runs in the genes. Michael gives me force. What a cry. I don't even want to talk you now what that is. Are you guys familiar ah you guys familiar with Carl? Yeah.
00:25:46
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He was safe contemporary with Freud. Yeah. yeah Are you familiar with his his philosophies? Well, i was trying to stay away from that word, but his outlook on or his perspective on addiction. You're going to break it down for us.
00:26:05
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I am. Just say it already. Spit it out. But first, I'm going to... You're also addicted to philosophy. i am.
00:26:16
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But this is i this this is part of the spiritual side. And first of all, again, i don't like that word spiritual, so I thought about it today. and I was like, you know...
00:26:28
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ah To me, it's about homeostasis or an equilibrium between your mind and your physical. And I think the emergent property of balance is the spiritual.
00:26:38
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So anyway, that's the way I'm looking at it. So I'm going to use spiritual in that aspect. But Carl, you look at addiction as not so much about the substance, but something subconsciously missing in your life.
00:26:53
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And not knowing what it is. And you filling that hole. With a behavior. and addictive Behavior or substance. Or etc.
00:27:04
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That is an interesting way of thinking of it. Yeah. and it's In some aspects. It kind of makes sense. But this is. i guess. is that's it's like It depends on each person. on what they think A search for comfort.
00:27:22
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Yes. A comfort or something that was missing in your life. like I think my addiction. Is the is my like I, a chunk of my, my, a huge chunk of my childhood, I didn't feel safe.
00:27:35
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And so there's that hole of never feeling safe um is, is like the the hole that I have. And for me to fill that hole when I don't, when I'm in a position where I don't feel safe and when I say, and when I mean safe, I mean safe with people um like emotionally on on an emotional level, like,
00:27:56
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I worked through with explosives. Trust me. My physical safety is not usually a concern of mine, but my emotional state hit always has been. And when I don't have that, and I feel like that huge chunk of my life I haven't. There's one reason why I fill it up with whiskey.
00:28:11
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It's an empty glass. but yeah like what What Jersey just said, it may start that way. ah that that It's true because like yeah everybody is different sometimes.
00:28:24
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fall into the hole and get lost. um yeah Some get out. Or they stay. Some people are just stagnant and they can actually live their life when being addicted to this stuff.
Rock Bottom, Support Systems, and Recovery
00:28:39
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That's called a functioning addict. Yeah, functioning addict. Thank you for the word. I was thinking. Many years ago, I was. Addiction does not equate rock bottom.
00:28:52
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There are a lot of people who do some hard stuff, but they make their life work. Well, it doesn't always make it good you, though. But eventually, certain things will take over the point where you cannot have a normal life anymore. Right. Certain things are powerful.
00:29:05
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Willpower won't get you so far. I'm sorry i cut you off, Blake. No, no, you're good. I was a functioning alcoholic for many years. I went to work. I did everything I needed to do. And I'm...
00:29:19
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drank my face off. If I was awake, you better believe I was drinking. I was a heavy equipment operator and a damn good one and a damn good heavy equipment operator. But I usually had a cooler pool of beer and a bottle of Jack Daniels sat me up with me at all times. you i and what doing thanks every day Yes.
00:29:35
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that what Is that what makes you in an attic is if you're hiding it? everybody That's, I think, I think that's part of it, that's a that's ah that's a sign that a person is an addict, but I don't think that's addiction itself.
00:29:53
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I think ah one of the biggest ones, yeah one of the biggest ah markers, and I know I know i i did i went through this for a long time, is denial. like once Once you're an alcoholic, you're always an alcoholic.
00:30:08
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Oh, yeah. No, I'm not. When you're re-arrasing your Tuesday to get that thing, you have to have. that's That's when you know you have an addiction. When you're rearranging a Tuesday to make sure you get what you want, what you need.
00:30:23
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Like, I was getting in the habit and of drinking online and it was it was becoming it was becoming a scheduled thing. So it was starting to take over.
00:30:34
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It was taking over. It was, oh, I need to go booze because I'm doing a string. Well, you work at one, but like, You ever look up the time when the liquor store would open?
00:30:47
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No. Years ago. I drink like one night a week, maybe more. i mean, I've cut back on my drinking a lot. I might have the occasional beer here and there.
00:30:59
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Or beers. Or beers here and there, but I typically only a drink on Saturday nights. I live in a tourist town.
00:31:08
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i was going to read this comment real quick. The temptation will always be around, but once an alcoholic, you can stop and no longer be an alcoholic. i See, that's thing. If the temptation is still there, if it's always still there, you're still an alcoholic, you're just you're in recovery.
00:31:25
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You're just always in recovery. Even if the temptation is not there anymore, you really truly just don't want it. if you If you happen to take that one more drink, that could be you know your next step right back down the old path.
00:31:37
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Yes, it's a label and whatever, but it's what it is. Don't do anything that revolves around bars. like Don't go play pool anymore because the pool's at bars. Don't do this anymore.
00:31:48
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You can only hang out at the barbershop so long until eventually you're going to get a haircut. It's whatever you're comfortable with, honestly. I'm hanging out with a friend that is sober and I've been drinking around them. and like It be and just depends on what who that person is and what they're comfortable with.
00:32:07
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yeah two this is why yeah This is why I say me personally I'm not an alcoholic anymore because when you're an alcoholic you crave it. You have no control. You can't control yourself. You have to have it.
00:32:19
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i think that's not that's um and That's not true. sort That's not true though. When somebody but somebody's in recovery. What is the definition of alcoholism? but is the definition of alcoholism give it to us To crave it not be able to control it.
00:32:35
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Oh yeah. That's what an alcoholism or an alcoholic is considered. If you crave you can't control that desire to want to drink, that's what it's considered to be an alcoholic or have alcoholism.
00:32:46
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But but get into the thing, when when you quote unquote move past the stage of drinking all the time, you're in recovery, you're still an alcoholic. You're just in recovery. you're you're You're regaining control.
00:33:00
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I mean, you're still an alcoholic. I mean, it's,
00:33:05
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alcohol disorder it's got a new name it's not just alcoholism alcoholism anymore it's alcohol use disorder is a chronic relapsing brain disease characterized by an impaired ability to stop or control alcohol consumption, as Glick was saying, despite adverse social, occupational, or health consequences.
00:33:25
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It's a spectrum disorder ranging from mild to severe, and it comes to what some might call alcohol abuse, alcohol dependence, or simply alcoholism. yeah It can lead to lasting changes in the brain, increasing vulnerability to relapse.
00:33:40
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All right. Like, cause my dad, he ah he was an alcoholic, but he quit for my older brother and I, and he hasn't had the urge to drink in, I'm not gonna say how many years, 31 years. um Three hours. so what your so So I kind of get what they're saying about how like, you're not really an alcoholic anymore.
00:34:06
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And it's not really even recovering at that point because he hasn't drank for 31 fucking years. So, and I mean, I'm sure he had the urge in the beginning for sure. Especially with my ass.
00:34:29
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now brittanney said some earlier she ah she brought up labor as something else carl jung mentioned when he was talking about addiction and I want to bring labels into it.
00:34:41
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Um, and you and Michael, you brought up the word rock bottom. It's not good to look at, at an addiction as, as, um, as somebody's like epitome of themselves.
00:34:54
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It's sure. We all, we all fell, but that does, that doesn't mean it doesn't mean the person isn't, um, isn' it where Yeah, I mean, there you can... you can ah Again, this is all about recovery and stuff.
00:35:07
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You can rebuild yourself. You can um you can you you know leave that rock bottom. so its I don't like people to think that if somebody's an addict, that they're for POS. They're not.
00:35:20
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They're just a human being ah going through some shit and they everybody's redeemable. Right, yeah. To a point...
00:35:30
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But that's outside of the addiction thing. We're not talking addiction at that point. But when it comes to addiction, I think everybody's redeemed. Well, that's why people are like... As I was parsing terms at this point, I'm sure, but I feel that once you've made that...
00:35:46
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like You get to the point where you are and addict, like a hardcore alcoholic. like For some of those folks, you have to hit rock bottom to realize just how bad it was. Because you're just your life on the outside looking in half the time of your own life.
00:36:02
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Yeah, yeah i don't want to i don't want to like say yeah or you I don't want to say they're not hitting rock bottom. I just want to, like, rock bottom isn't, I don't want to, I'm just saying being at rock bottom I don't think is a pejorative.
00:36:15
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I got you. But you're also saying the person isn't their disease or their, their you know, their addiction.
Long-term Effects and Personal Redemption
00:36:22
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But at the same time, I personally think that if if you're at that point in addiction, you're not that person anymore anyway.
00:36:31
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I know that is you. It's like yeah your your addiction You're not the person I knew and loved. You're a new person now. That alcohol has completely changed and and and altered.
00:36:42
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to where that is something that makes it's the most important thing in your life. You know what I mean? And to choose that you love that loving situations and, and care. And you know, the interactions we used to have the other, because you'd rather drink instead.
00:36:56
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That is another completely different. It's a different human being. and They're not a kid or whatever, but they're not my friend anymore. They're not who I was, who I knew. They've become something new. with something else alcohol Again, they're just a passenger, and the and the addiction's got the keys to the bus.
00:37:13
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Yeah. For sure. I agree. I know I went through, when I went through my VA stuff last year, there was a guy in there that had, and I forgot the actual technical terms, so some you might want to look this up.
00:37:26
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If I fit anybody, I'm sorry, but wet brain. He's drank so much that cognitively, like, he has, like, dementia. And, like he like, his body's broken down. He walks around a walker, clostomy bag, all sorts of shit. because And when I was talking to him. It messes up the neural. neal Yeah.
00:37:50
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ah He would have his. he He still had, like, a chunk of, like, clarity. But it fucked with his head hard when it come to, like, Like normal routine things. like you know Like sticking your key in the door.
00:38:02
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Like you forget how to do stupid shit. like It's weird. But anyway, he he told me, he's like, man, the only reason why I'm not drinking now is because I, by court order, cannot leave this facility.
00:38:14
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Or he would go drink and probably die. And some people have that mental capacity to like realize. like and So I know when Jersey says sometimes rock bottom isn't enough,
00:38:26
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that's not Yeah, you're right. It isn't. No. Well, my friend... and and That's what it is. Thank you. Liver failure. Vascular dementia. Vascular dementia by alcohol.
00:38:41
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jersey, I like having you around. You got some medical knowledge. i appreciate i I was just about to say, I appreciate it. I was chit-chatting with Jerzy earlier today, and she she informed me what she but she does. and it's um jason I love that, babe.
00:38:58
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I love Jerzy. She's awesome. Jerzy's awesome.
00:39:04
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The person not distinct. Let's not go crazy.
00:39:10
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Excuse me? for me What did you just say? He said... the The person, not the state. We were saying Jersey's cool. I've never been to Jersey.
00:39:23
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You don't have to pay to get in, but you've got to pay to get out. you Shut up, Baltimore. You're from Maryland. Shut up. We have no room to talk about.
00:39:34
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Shut up. Whatever, man. We've covered a few a bit of a gamut of addictions and such. Yeah. What's our way out of this? What's our way out? ah The in-stream button. Oh, you mean out out of addiction. I'm sorry. yeah Fuck you, Josh. Just hit the red button. That's the way out.
00:39:58
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I think ah so, like, ways to help yeah i wanted to bring up battle all your addiction. What's your step, Rob? Because I know I feel like there's a definite step one, an absolute, absolute step one.
00:40:14
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Acknowledgement. Stop doing what you want. You have to want it. Right. Sure. Well, acknowledgement, having to want it. Interventions, in my opinion, probably don't work as often as you'd like simply because they're forced on that person a surprise scenario.
00:40:33
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And that person has to choose for themselves to want that. Yeah. no matter No matter what you say about how hurtful it is, they're sitting there thinking, how long is this going to take so do a score? Right. Brittany and I was actually talking about this, and we brought up the idea of intervention.
00:40:48
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And i think I think her and I had a similar agreement about talking about it, like in this kind of forum for people to hear, i think does more than a forced intervention. Absolutely.
00:41:02
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All right. Like if it's like a room full of fucking people or some shit. Like I would be like, not fuck all y'all, I'm getting out of here. I'm done. yeah d ah De-stigmatizing.
00:41:15
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De-stigmatizing addiction I think is is is what I'm trying to say. it's and Addiction is sucks. It's embarrassing almost in a way, you know?
00:41:26
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But if we de-stigmatize it, hopefully people won't be embarrassed. And they'll be able to like acknowledged and be more aware and you know get the help that you need i just feel like this i think because i come from a christian family background and my grandfather was a pastor that i feel like when i did have my issues and everything yeah i would not want that what so fucking ever so yeah no interventions this kind of is better well there's no family immune to it that's the point
00:42:00
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and No particular upbringing is immune to it. I know Amish people who have gone through. story two I'm not playing hardcore needle drug rehab.
00:42:10
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Really? Really? Or really real. on Wow. Wow. It's legit. It's real. Yeah. It can get into any any crack in your community.
00:42:24
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It will find it. No pun intended. It will find its way in. Yeah. You're not wrong, but damn, I didn't even think about the Amish people doing it. That's crazy.
00:42:35
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I got a lot of them around me. In 12 and a half years of driving Amish, I've learned a lot about the Amish community. The number one thing is this. They're just like any other cross-section of society. 80% of them are just regular old folks like you and me.
00:42:48
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10% are super extra good. 10% are super extra shitty. What is that thing that they have?
00:42:57
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Where they go out? What? Core strength. The honest workout. It's all about that core strength. No, like when I go in there.
00:43:09
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Rumspringa. Thank you. Thank you. That's what I was thinking of. There's not just rumspringa that does it. I mean, just because you're rumspringa doesn't mean, ooh, finally I can stick an eel in my arm. That's not the case. Well, that's usually probably when they do it.
00:43:25
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Well, I know. pull up to the gas station down here and they have their horse and buggy.
00:43:33
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Yeah. There's fucking horseshit everywhere. That is i nuts. I don't want to go down Amish top. It can get into any. Oh, yeah. It can sneak into anywhere. point i'm trying Like you said.
00:43:47
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yeah I'll pull the story up for you just for fun later. But in ah it was in the mid-90s, a great big Amish party got busted, and they had cocaine and all sorts of things that you would not expect from Amish kids an Amish party.
00:44:01
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We'll have to talk about the Amish at the time because they're a cool group of people. But want to ask Glick something. Glick, you had mentioned earlier that you've struggled with alcohol alcoholism. What things have you done to help recover and to combat that addiction?
00:44:20
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Besides, told me to stop. although Although for some people, that's all it might take. What's that? again so For some people, that's all it might take is simply get a DUI and like, oh, I don't want to ever go through that court shit again. I'm never drinking. Well, yeah. know and i and when yeah and i had that I didn't even have a drinking problem. Anybody who's never gotten a DUI,
00:44:43
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anybody who's never gotten a dui If you ever get one, when you get done with their DUI class, you're going feel like you're about 10 seconds away from her and her granny to go get high off something and steal some babies to get drunk because they really...
00:44:57
Speaker
put you through the ringer and make you feel like a real piece of fucking shit in those classes.
Managing Addiction: Strategies and Discipline
00:45:01
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um But yeah, that DUI had nothing to do with the drinking problem. that That wasn't my point. I wasn't saying the was a problem.
00:45:10
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was a problem i was saying for some people, DUI would make them stay off the boot. yeah But my point was, what steps have you taken to combat?
00:45:22
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Because you said earlier that you that you were an alcoholic. Yeah, i think i think i'm I think I'm a little bit different than other than a lot of people just because same thing with smoking cigarettes.
00:45:33
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I mean, I still have my vape and everything, but um i just I just woke up one morning and it was like a switch hit. and And I realized that that whatever you want to call it, that I had lost all control and I needed to regain control.
00:45:48
Speaker
And i said i did i've never I've never stopped drinking. and That's the thing. like i you know I drink regardless. But I started started to slowly, well, not even started to. I just stopped drinking.
00:46:01
Speaker
And then I got regulated it more. I drank more in moderation. And you know I still have my times where I like to get fucked up and drink a lot of beer. But it is what it is. I'm in 100% complete control. And I think that was the biggest thing before was I just lost control.
00:46:16
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Did you have any like activities or something that you did or hobbies that you would get into? they like No, I just quit. No, I just quit.
00:46:28
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Like I said, I know and i know and i know what not everybody can do that. I know people... I just quit and I started going to the gym more and refocused on... That's a hobby right there. That right there. that's like It was more of a refocusing.
00:46:44
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and was more of a refocusing um yeah like i so exactly i got i got I got control back and then it was like I got the gym I got a new baby like yeah just put my energy put my energy somewhere else and that's ultimately what you can do but i wasn't like it wasn't like it wasn't like I went to classes or anything like that I just quit drinking it was like I it now like got i didn't think I got cancer out of him I know I did i did I'm going to leave it at that I'm i'm proud
00:47:15
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I know, I know, well, one, Brittany won't shut the fuck up and let anybody talk, but I also know with Blaze, if you don't give him the right answer that he wants, he's not going to let stop, but I also know if I dance around the- Not the right answer.
00:47:25
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and no that's not- Yeah, You don't want to say something about Matt's button to fuck up, motherfucker. You're addicted to talking.
00:47:37
Speaker
How many times have you guys asked me why I'm- Okay, Brittany. I know Brittany's got some... I know she's chomping at the bit. what are some what What are some ways that but you've that you've done to help recover?
00:47:52
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Well, asked a people that are sober as well, but like different things like drawing, coloring, because I'm an artist. I got this adult coloring book.
00:48:07
Speaker
Adult coloring books does not make you an artist. I'm sorry. I know it's funny, but it gets it gets me, and hey, look at that shit, fuck you. I'm good, but it inspires me also.
00:48:20
Speaker
So that's what inspires me to draw other shit, so fuck you. Um, you can do acupuncture, meditating, grounding, yoga, exercise, like Glick said, going to the gym, um,
00:48:37
Speaker
And then, like, friends and family support always is nice if you have them there. That's a huge one. Yeah, that's a big one. if you have the fucking support around you, that's big. Because if you're all alone dwelling in it, like, it is hard to even get a hobby or something like that.
00:48:57
Speaker
Because you're just, like, stuck. And then with the alcohol thing, it makes you depressed. It's a depressant. So... like you're You get stuck in that. so It makes it hard to fucking even get out of bed. I've been there.
00:49:13
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sucks. It's part of the different aspect. Right. so It's definitely a serious thing. um ah Those are some of the things that I know that you could do.
00:49:28
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but just depends. just like Find a hobby and help you. these These are all things that not only help with addiction, but just your mental health in general. In general, right. Yeah, in general. Mental health in general.
00:49:42
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For sure, you're right. Actually, you know, I don't want to sit here and say, well, if you just always keep your mental health in check, you'll never go into addiction. But I'm not to say something so naive.
00:49:54
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But yeah preventive preventive maintenance does help. It's not 100%, but it does help. I mean, that's a good point, Glenn. Yeah.
00:50:07
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This is all things that I do just for my mental health in general. Yeah. And like if you like get anxiety, you know, like box breathing, you know, where you like breathing exercises, even.
00:50:21
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Meditation. matt That's what I said. Masturbation. Masturbation even does fucking help. Having sex. Seriously, masturbation is good for your mental health.
00:50:33
Speaker
It is. It helps me sleep sometimes. It's also good for for ah people but with testicles to help prevent prostate cancer. Yep.
00:50:44
Speaker
True. Well, I mean, yeah, you can't hold all that shit in. Nope. Sometimes you gotta empty the pipes. We have blue ovaries too, man.
00:50:56
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Michael, you have brought up gambling addiction. Do you know anybody have it, or is that, like, your thing? it's It's my newest.
00:51:07
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i've I've been avoiding the gambling for quite a while now, as far as I'm concerned. not going to talk about it either. I know. Yeah. I counted with more thousands than wanted with it last year the at the casino.
00:51:22
Speaker
Besides going down the actual, you know, you your struggles with it, like, you know, I don't know much about gambling addiction as I mean, when it comes to like chemical depend dependency, I understand that more than like, I'll tell you the most interesting gambling to me is this not something that ever interests me at all.
00:51:44
Speaker
And for a lot of people, that's the case. It was like that for me for a long time, then actually hitting a couple of big ones made me want to play more to do it again. But here's the most interesting thing about gambling addiction.
00:51:58
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For a gambling addict, you would think that the big dopamine hit is when you hit for a big, big win. No, for a gambling at addict, the dopamine hit is when they lose.
00:52:10
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How messed up is that counterintuitivity? Because they're searching for serotonin.
00:52:18
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Yeah, the dopamine hit comes on the losses, not on the wins. I find that very, very intriguing. really You think maybe it's anticipation to pull that lever again, to speak? I can't explain it. I just know that I pulled it again on blind stupidity and hope.
00:52:33
Speaker
It's like, okay, it hasn't worked out the last $400, but this last 50 is going to turn it all around or hit big instead of just leaving with money. get what I call getting the fever and just want to play more and play more and play more. All this machine's done.
00:52:49
Speaker
We'll go to a different machine. All that machine sucks. Go to a different machine. Next thing you know, fuck, I'm broke.
00:52:55
Speaker
that' sit it's it's it's It boils down to that loss of control, that craving. You need it. You want it. I don't know. I had i a family member you that was that had a yeah ah huge gambling issue and was and was left for dead in in an alley in Atlantic City.
00:53:12
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Still alive. I don't know how, but still alive. but yeah Because they they they could not i mean they but not beat that addiction until it was literally beat out of them.
00:53:23
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ah think This is why I'm not married. Let's just say that. I'll keep it sweet and simple. This is why I'm not married. It's because of gambling addiction. Okay. Random.
00:53:34
Speaker
Okay. You brought up Atlantic City. I've been down there, man. What's this E-break? Watch this, guys. usually sleep Sorry. sorry Atlantic City is sensitive.
00:53:50
Speaker
I wasn't going to bring it up, but Change her. Tea break, Britney. Alcohol for me. fucking broke me. My impetus was my second DUI.
00:54:02
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I crashed pretty bad. Completely blacked out when it was happening. And I woke up to the authorities tapping on the one window that wasn't shattered. Busted my knees up real bad.
00:54:14
Speaker
Affected the way walked for quite a while. I'm still not right in my knees. I mean, this that was a big wake-up call. And I quit cold turkey for several years. i do drink again but i mean if i'm driving i'm not drinking at all or i'm very very careful about but how long i'm there what i drink and when i leave there will not be a third i will not crash again for that reason this is true too i've i've witnessed this man buy a six pack and not drink a single one if i were to buy a 12 he actually did tell me that in january it's gonna at least 10 of them unless i've had company are still there on christmas day i just i don't have that once in a while i do want to drink but here's my thing if i want to drink it's to get drunk not just to be social yeah and i will get drunk but it's not like i let it
00:55:08
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affect my decision making to the point where, okay, I'm super drunk, but fuck it. I'll just drive
Alcohol Addiction and Recovery Journeys
00:55:12
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this one time. No, I will drive zero times. I'll stay or I'll sleep in the car or whatever. I will do anything but drive if I've been drinking heavy.
00:55:21
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I know better. For sure. Period. Fair. ish yeah that night that That night we did the 100 shot challenge. I'd quit drinking for several hours before I left.
00:55:33
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And most of it had exited my body anyway. And I made sure to eat and I was rehydrated. I had my Gatorade and I was drinking water as well. hey didn't drink that much anyways.
00:55:46
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I was more tired. you know i and Michael brought this up earlier in the show about how addiction affects not just the person addicted, but everybody around you. goes are actually Our actions don't happen in a vacuum.
00:56:02
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like They impact people around us. like like The world is ah over to not an Overton window, a Venn diagram. That's a good thing because I know fetal alcohol syndrome is a thing and So I, um, every time I see, cause I work in a liquor store.
00:56:22
Speaker
I see a lot of, I see addicts daily. And, um, that's a, that's always a big one. It breaks my heart when a pregnant woman who walks in and buys a bottle of booze.
00:56:34
Speaker
I'm not saying it's always for her, but I know sometimes it is. And I can't say no. I have to still say a glass of wine. Okay. ah They are allowed a glass of wine a day. Okay.
00:56:48
Speaker
Brittany Smokers absolutely drank a lot when she was pregnant with Brittany. I don't even have kids. I don't fucking know. Speaking of what, the thing that keeps me still drinking and the reason why I can't permanently put it down is I enjoy exploring the different types of beer.
00:57:10
Speaker
ah Huge craft beers. and Lately, I've been exploring Cabernet Sauvignon. Cabis. ca Cabernet Sauvignon. ah wine. I never really drank cabbies, but somebody suggested it. I tried it, and I've been kind of going through the wine shelf at work buying random bottles.
00:57:31
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and This week alone, I've had three bottles of wine. not proud of it. But life pray yeah yeah but it's it's like I'll get it out of my system, and now it's like I won't drink for a while.
00:57:46
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Or I'll probably I have a beer or something next week. haven't had anything to drink since Saturday. Good. Not bad for an alcoholic.
00:57:58
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I... I don't know. I'm drinking a lot of water and a lot of tea.
00:58:10
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At my liquor store, we have a pregnant woman who's still coming drunk and buying more. but Sorry, sorry. Yeah, that's that's an unfortunate thing. Oh, she was...
00:58:24
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Well, I was... How how much how long did you y'all want to go tonight? I've got one more point I'd like to make, and I'm good. Okay, cool. and Go ahead. A lot of times in recovery, they'll say, change your playground and change your playmates.
00:58:40
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Yes. When I quit cold turkey... I didn't want to quit playing pool and stuff. That's what all my friends did. That's what I love to do. I still went to the bar three, four nights a week to play pool leagues and didn't have a single drop of alcohol.
00:58:55
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well but yeah fire But like Luke said, it's just willpower. I have willpower like his, only way better. mine Mine is superior to his. That's all. I think, and don't I don't think it's, much keep thinking that.
00:59:09
Speaker
I beat you everything we do. I am your daddy. Look at me. I'm your daddy. I did a good job not making jokes tonight. A very serious topic, and I'm glad we we did this.
Preventive Measures and Community Support
00:59:21
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We should do this more often. and In all honesty, it's it's about regaining, it with any addiction, whether it be gambling or substance abuse or drugs or... Porn masturbation video games. I had a friend of mine who lost his entire family because he was literally addicted to playing video games yeah we did His wife left him his kids wanted nothing to do with them like he wound up back home and that's all that's literally all he did
00:59:54
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and i I don't know. He was part of that circle. having ami in front of them Yeah, it was a part of that circle that got Ixnayed when I started closing my circle in.
01:00:04
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um But ah it's it's all about regaining that control. And if you have control, like you said, Michael, you could go and still be in pool league and not want to drink. I can go see a band play at a bar and drink Pepsi all night and have just as much fun as I could drinking.
01:00:23
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There's some shows, drink on Saturday nights when we do shows, but when I started doing this, like Blaze said, he drank when he was every show we Every show I did, I drank.
01:00:36
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And then I got to the point where I was I can't drink like this every fucking night. This is insane. So then I started limiting myself, and I would drink specific nights, and now it's just down to Saturday nights. And even then, then there's been a few Saturdays where I haven't drank.
01:00:51
Speaker
Recently, where I haven't drank. I'm glad you realized that. That's awesome. It's just about control. Angel says, remember everybody, next month starts the cold months, which most people are depressed and maybe so another closer to Thanksgiving and Christmas to help let people know others still care.
01:01:10
Speaker
I got my vitamin D supplement badly. Seasonal affective disorder. Sad. and i have I get, matter of fact, I have my VA appointment.
01:01:23
Speaker
in September on the 9th. And I, during these months coming up, I always get prescribed a vitamin D supplement because I, because I don't, because I can't, because the sun's gone lot and it that affects me. That's why I spend a lot of my time out in the woods, out in the sun. Because if I don't have that, I do, I get, I get real depressed.
01:01:47
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You're a soldier. Yeah. What's that? You're a soldier. You're traveler. I'm um a feral fucking human being. I'm nomadic. I am. I am ah dig it.
01:02:03
Speaker
Me too. That's why we're sterner buddies.
01:02:08
Speaker
Definitely good. Definitely good, Angel. Definitely good. it for yourself, not because of us. Do it for yourself. How do you guys feel about tolerance breaks? Or like a dry week or two? like I do it for weed occasionally. I'll take a week off. Yeah.
01:02:21
Speaker
yeah but Just to tell myself I am in control. Booze, I know a lot of people do that too. like I know a lot of people in the alcohol industry because they drink a lot. like work I feel like it's easier to do it much love and trying easier to do it with weed it every week. drink Saturdays.
01:02:43
Speaker
umm sorry i actually ruy but that ah do it every week yeah bri ah joke on saturdays And then I'm dry the rest of the week. You said it's easier do with... You said it's easier to do with weed outside of alcohol. When it's an addiction...
01:03:03
Speaker
Well, I mean to help prevent... I'm not calling you in an addict, so... I wasn't saying I'd love to see you give up weed for a week. One whole No weed. I'm already a bitch. like You want to bring on the real bitch? Like...
01:03:19
Speaker
pat ladies and gentlemen, addiction, ladies and gentlemen, add it. Make excuses for it. Why do you do Because you annoy the fuck out of me. I still have my nicotine because if I didn't, I would kill somebody. But I know that I gave up nicotine for several years and I never murdered anybody.
01:03:39
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I just made excuses. Now I just have it because um I enjoy it. so he ran he ran out He ran out of excuses. But on that note, does anybody have any final points? Don't do crack.
01:03:53
Speaker
Yes. Don't do crack. If you do do crack. want your friendly neighborhood?
01:04:01
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The D.A.R.E. program is was was a crock of shit. I do want to say. Sorry. it I want to give a shout out.
01:04:12
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Go ahead, Michael.
Podcast Success and Closing Remarks
01:04:13
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Tune in tomorrow morning. Yes. Tomorrow morning, chronic complications. Contemplations with Michael and i and Apparently, I guess that's a very, very funny name. Very funny name.
01:04:24
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Contemplations. It makes sense for what we do on Thursday. I was commenting on the show you were one day. um The host really thought that was a funny name.
01:04:35
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I laughed. don't think you understood that. I would like to give him back doing charity work for the special needs. Mike, that's that's that's nice of you. So and it ah if you guys like us, um oh yeah I know what I'm trying to do.
01:04:54
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I wanted to give a shout out to a lot. We got a bunch of new followers on Facebook. Thanks for all the love. know Michael's out there hustling for us. um Thank you so much. i know you' forgot a couple more Plus please like us, share us.
01:05:07
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one hundred and thirty one new subscribers so please like us share it Share and subscribe. shares I'm so tired.
01:05:18
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And subscribe. subscribe yes Share, like, and
01:05:26
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subscribe. I wasn't going to do that one today. 141 new subscribers on Facebook this week.
01:05:38
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now quick ah Real quick shout out to the not one show, but the network. We have, for six weeks consecutively, six weeks in a row, we have remained in the top 10.
01:05:51
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like for top podcasts in all of Ohio. And I would like to say, all you Buckeye podcasts, all you Ohio State Buckeye podcasts, some of these podcasts hosted by former NFL players and former Ohio State players, you can suck my dick and eat my asshole because the Nonsensical Network is coming for that top spot.
01:06:11
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and More important than that, thank you to all the listeners. and so No, thank you. It's awesome. That's awesome. Get us to number one because we are one of the only non-related Buckeye podcasts in this list. There's like one other podcast that's not Buckeye football related that's in the top 10 outside of us.
01:06:34
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So Buckeye football is obviously oversaturated and completely unnecessary in Ohio. i Thank you guys in Ohio for opening your your horizons and expanding your minds and listening to something other than the mindless Ohio State Buckeye that's out there.
01:06:52
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As much as you want to talk about Go Bucs. And on that note, good night, and we'll see y'all later. but Hail to the victors.
01:07:12
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