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Speaker: Goddamn this computer. What's going on guys? Happy Tuesday. Give me one second. I'm going to go ahead and run through my spiel and then I'm going to play a music and then we're going to bring J up. But no, I'm not. I'm just kidding. I'm going to play music.
Speaker: It's one of those Tuesdays guys. I'm ready to scream. I'm not even kidding. I'm a villain. I'm a villain. Lurkin' in the dead of night Somethin' in my head ain't right Check on an idiot bed tonight For a villain, I'm a villain Evil to my wicked bones Tortured in my twisted soul My heart is just a big black hole I'm a villain Couple xanis, mix the purse, was makin' it work The way my mind, I find my medicine, was makin' it worse The way I think it runs, I play's my same, it's a curse I just killed this beat, I'm raised, I bring in the hearse
Speaker: I'm gonna tell you
Speaker: I told you that my twisted soul My heart is just a big black hole I'm a villain Another evil creed for a rad villain I keep my word when I come up and corrupt visions Now your victim's a fuck Mr. Don't give a fuck syndrome I'm just being honest why I tried to beat a buck with him It's not logic, fuck a fuck or go and make a million Where these posters fake it make it kinda seem chameleon Where you blending with these weird times while I go and make a living while I twist these phases when I went from that killer to civilian from the days of getting bullied I said it's not for villains turn the copers kill into a fucking sick tradition break these bars down like a sick concussion I got behind it when you see that devil like it
Speaker: keep the the gamble, lay the chips, then now you play casinos I'm across the line just to get a few latinos Way up, fill a taco while I make these
Speaker: While your girl comes in and hits the Dino Faster hits the Tito I'm so crazy, speed around and run around we go I'm a villain, I'm a villain Lurking in the dead of night Something in my head ain't right Check out an idiot billet tonight I'm a villain, I'm villain Eagles in my wicked bones Tortured in my twisted soul My heart is just a big black hole I'm a villain
Speaker: And then I'm going to add just one last thing, which is, I'm a villain.
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Speaker: I'll get more into that later on tonight. But that jam right there, man, that's become one of my new favorite joints. I've been listening to that shit like crazy the last few weeks since my boy introduced me to this young man coming up to hang out with us.
Speaker: Man, I don't even know how to describe him as an artist. He's He's just J-Devil, man. He just does what he does. And there he is. What's going on, brother? How's it going, man? Great to be here.
Speaker: Appreciate you stopping by. Shout out to James Luker. ah He did introduce us to each other a few weeks back when James was on here hanging out with me. ah mutual sample Yeah, that's that's he's like a little brother to me, man. So shout out to James Luker.
Speaker: What up, Chad? We see you guys over there shatting away already. shout out to What up, King Razor?
Speaker: What up, King? ah Again, appreciate you coming on, bro. Taking a little bit of time out of your out of your schedule, out of your your your life. It seems like you've been a little busy lately, man. yeah yeah You had a ah show not too long ago. You're working on new music. You're doing a little bit of this. doing a little bit of that.
Speaker: Sounds like ah you sound like me. Always got your hands in something to keep busy. Always. It's how you don't go crazy.
Speaker: So <unk> I'll say this right off the rip. When James started telling me about you and you came up, was like, hell yeah, cool-ass fucking kid, man. And I say kid because I'm old and I have no idea how old you are.
Speaker: So ah let me go check out his music. And I was just like, not typically in my wheelhouse. It's got that ICP juggalo vibe to it little bit.
Speaker: Yeah. But then I got to listen, listen to more and listen to more. I'm like, God damn, if this kid hasn't grown on me and and in his music, like it hits and it and it puts you in a, puts you in like a, like a, some of it makes you want to fight. So it just, just is like right place, right time, right music at the end of the day.
Speaker: Has that always been your style or did you, are you still trying to find your, your niche? So to say, so, uh, It's not necessarily style I'm searching for. It's really, I just make what I feel.
Speaker: um i started making music at a very young age, about 13 years old. And I used it as a coping mechanism. So I started making music when when my twin brother committed suicide. And I went to many group therapies, outpatients, inpatients, just trying to figure out how to get through everything and a when like i would go through a group therapy. It was actually an art therapy when I finally realized what I was doing, is but it was like painting and drawing and I just was not into it. So I just put my earbuds in. I'm just like sitting here listening to my music and the counselor comes over and says, so you enjoying a therapy? I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. i'm not trying to be rude. She's like, no, no, no, no. You're doing your thing. like,
Speaker: like i looked at her confused and she was like music is therapy yeah and it like clicked i'm like huh and then i started just making things that i wanted to because i always wrote like just notes of stuff in my uh little uh It's not necessarily like a composite book.
Speaker: It's a composite notebook. And, you know, obviously I wasn't as good as I am now, but. I mean, we all start somewhere. I mean, yeah go go back and listen to the very first podcast I did compared to what we're doing nowadays. And you're going to go, oof, why'd this guy keep going? Hello, is anybody there?
Speaker: Rock Lee, what's going on, brother? ah appreciate you. Best podcast on the planet. What's Mike? ah Yeah, man. No, it really is. And that's, I think a lot of people, you know, music is their therapy, whether you're listening to it, you're writing it, you're, you're, you're creating it, whatever it is.
Speaker: It's absolutely not what Lord knows. Well, I mean, just, just, you know, I've been going through some personal shit, you know, the last few weeks. and and And again, I'm the type of guy that I like to go for drives and I'll tell you you know, my drives,
Speaker: And in one of two ways, you know, it is what it is. But I was listening to some of your music kind of cranked up, just hitting the back roads and letting it go, man. And and that's that's the that's the great thing about music, man. It it fits every mood, no matter what, in almost every situation in life.
Speaker: Music saved my life. And I can truly say that from by my heart. I've literally turned down like possible like relationships because a we get into an argument because they don't want they like all right we can hang out but I don't want talk about music but what do you want talk about then? and then i One of them even got to the point where i was like well music saved my life what have you done for me?
Speaker: Yeah right. What have you done for me lately? Hey, it'd be like that sometimes. It really does.
Speaker: No, man. um
Speaker: What pushed you towards the style of music in the genre? that youre is it is Were you inspired by artists that you grew up listening to or anything like that? um When I was growing up, I listened to like a mix of things.
Speaker: Me and my brother listened to a lot of Green Day, Linkin Park, 50 Cent. Honestly, at first, I actually didn't like Eminem at all.
Speaker: ah He actually pissed me off. and It wasn't his fault. is because so My brother, way he died, he hung himself in the bottom of the top bunk with a belt. And on the song My Name Is, he said, and well, at age 12, I felt like someone else because I hung my original self from Top Bunk with a belt.
Speaker: and And I just literally threw my MP3 player across the fucking room and broke it. Ah, yeah. Damn. and then But then, i obviously, common and sense, I'm like, well, he doesn't obviously know who I am. like yeah Yeah, it's not like he was directly at you. Yeah. Right. But I was feeling some sort of way because I was just, you know, 13, 14 years old, just not knowing how to even deal with daily life. Yeah, right. I mean, shit.
Speaker: 13, 14 years old, I was, shit, I was still figuring out a lot, let alone trying to process, you know, a sibling, let alone ah a twin, you know, and suicide and unaliving oneself. Sorry, YouTube, don't so yell at me.
Speaker: yeah know But ah yeah, trying to process that and deal with that with everything else that, you know, we're as as, you know, the hormones and ah puberty and teenage years and everything is is already hitting us. And now that's,
Speaker: let's go ahead and put this on top of you and see how, but, you know, I mean, it's, it's, it's, they say that, you know, and and not to make light of the situation or anything like that, but you know, they, they, they say that things that happen to us in life and that everything happens for a reason. It, it makes us who we are today.
Speaker: What's up, Mikey? So, yeah yeah, tragedy, tragedy, uh, becomes triumph at the end of the day. And I know, uh,
Speaker: I know I live for the both of us now. Whenever I do my music, i almost feel like when I make something beautiful that touches me, that's my brother doing it with me. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, man. That's awesome. I didn't expect this.
Speaker: I did not expect this with that when when we when we sent this interview. I didn't think you were going come bang right up the gate and there you go. Yeah, here's a little food for just what you're going to Just like I told Mother Clark, shout out the Old Mississippi Soundhouse, which is the logo right here. They actually helped me become the artist that I am now.
Speaker: And they gave me my gateway into the scene because I was actually the main actor in Colt Montgomery's music video, Lost Soul. And in that video, I play as an American soldier, and the song is about...
Speaker: veterans coming home from war and not being able to find themselves. And I was at my brother's grave yeah while im in this uniform for the scene. And I start actually crying and because I wish he was here to see all this.
Speaker: And Modder puts the camera down and says, hey man, we don't we don't have to put this in the video, man. like I'm sure Colt would understand. I'm like, the world deserves authenticity.
Speaker: ahead and put it in Yeah, man, that's real. it's It's real. It's authentic. It's raw. it's it's It's genuine at the end of the day. and and And I think that's one of the cool things about your music is that when you listen to it, it's all those things wrapped up into one.
Speaker: So, I mean, why not? Why not have that in a music video? You know? Yeah, it's it might be something hard to go back and and watch and see, but it adds so much so much to that video without necessarily knowing the backstory behind it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker: ah Speaking of your music and being real and raw, I know we were talking a little bit, and you said you wanted to go back through and redo some stuff. Is it just because you're not happy with the way it came out? Maybe you want to put it a little bit.
Speaker: It's kind of like... a I didn't really know like how to you know project the sound I wanted to at first. I got out the best I could. But now that I know what I am now, i can show the rebirth of me and to show the improvement. Like, hey this is how I did it, but this is how I can do it now.
Speaker: Yeah. So that growth. That growth and stuff. Yeah. It's like a watch this. That'd be like ah like ah like a cool-ass remix album. you You put the original stuff, like a side, you know, again, I'm old, so, you know, we we had side A, side B when I grew up. even i' like ah Side A would be the original, side B would be the new and improved, you know, J-Devil, so to say, the new and improved sound.
Speaker: Donald Dyer, oorah, brother. that'd be That'd be a a cool thing to, as a fan, as a fan of music, to to see that, not only to listen to, but to witness through our own years, that growth and and whatnot.
Speaker: Yeah. I don't know if you could ah see the, my Facebook comments. I'm not sure, but ah yeah, Donald here, he's actually given me some guidance too recently. And he's actually got a lot of experience in music scene. He's worked with kid rock and a bunch of other cool artists. Yeah. And yeah,
Speaker: and And i I feel like he's going to be a big help down this long road that I got. So, and I appreciate you a lot, Donald.
Speaker: We're mixing old with the new version. Hell yeah. Even, even, yeah, man, you know, in and then that's it. That's another key point that I'm, I'm learning ah in this with interviewing musicians and also being in our own spectrum of the entertainment side of things here on the network, man, surrounding yourself with the right people.
Speaker: is important for success at the end of the day. Absolutely. And it sounds like you it sounds like you know you're starting to get those people in your corner and and have those people to to back you up and assist you and give you advice and push you in the right direction.
Speaker: ah You feel like that you know from where you began to where you are now? Yeah, absolutely. You know, I was actually told this in high school, you know, you're only as good as people you surround yourself with. If you surround yourself with five bums, you're going to eventually become the sixth.
Speaker: If you surround yourself with five millionaires, you're eventually going to become the sixth or at least a hundred thousands, hopefully. That's my problem. I need to find some millionaire friends. Right. Same.
Speaker: Jeff Bezos, Elon, hit me up. Millionaires, billionaires, if you got your ears on and you want to be friends, I'm pretty fucking cool. Plus, if you need security, security as well.
Speaker: He's got to be a great, great friend. check look Look, he's got the beard of life attack. Come on now. yeah Look, he's got the belts to prove it. Yeah, I'm the goddamn champ.
Speaker: Fuck you, Joe Rogan.
Speaker: Shit, I'll be friends with Joe Rogan at this point. Hell yeah. Yeah, man. Absolutely. Mental and emotional support is key in PTSD recovery. Absolutely, Donald. I i got to agree with you 100%.
Speaker: um
Speaker: and And sometimes you find that through music and and and and what it sounds like. And I'll go ahead and ask you this. When you when you when you write, there's a lot of your writing come from, you know, the healing or personal experience or or anything like that or.
Speaker: a lot of it, yeah, like lately, they're not posted on anything, but except for a couple like there's like video visuals of them, like Amazing Grace, my apology.
Speaker: um Before I started doing this all publicly, i i lived a whole totally different life. I had everything that I thought I ever wanted. i had a three- bedroom house. I had top few cars, you know never had less than 7K in my bank account.
Speaker: I had a girlfriend and her two daughters and I loved them very much. And things just kind of just collapsed from under me. and
Speaker: I still miss them to this day. And I never got to tell the kids bye. And that's what Amazing Grace was. And I even contacted their father, even though me and him didn't see eye to eye, and asked for his permission.
Speaker: And he said, yeah.
Speaker: And those songs are just about me trying to find closure with it, which I'm still struggling with. but But I know... ah Things happen for a reason.
Speaker: Oh, 100%. You got me over here with goosebumps, man. he You're hitting my feels, man.
Speaker: um Yeah, man. i Yeah. You know, it's funny how funny how life will throw us curveballs. and And, you know, I hate to sound cliche and anything like that, but I think think Rocky said it best, man. It's it's not that's not how many times you get knocked down. It's how many times you get back up.
Speaker: I can't believe you just said that. That's literally my number one favorite quote in the whole world. There's even an Instagram video on my Instagram where it quotes that. Yeah. You know, it's about how hard you can hit. It's about how hard you can get hit moving forward.
Speaker: Yeah. You know, exactly, man. And, and, and, and, you know, Some people are just built different and they can, they can take the punches all day long and guy gives his hard battles to his strongest soldiers. Yeah.
Speaker: I didn't sign up for this fucking battle. God damn it. Here we are, man. You know, you know, and sometimes it feels like the hits just keep coming and the hits keep coming, but and that's because, you know, some of us are stronger than others and and others can't, can't handle it. So,
Speaker: know maybe maybe we're we're tasked to where carry those burdens for others so they don't have to they don't have to go through it you know but uh taking one for the team kind of yeah and and you know and turning that pain into um something that others can can you know relate to or or learn from or even go down their own journey of healing i mean even something as simple as what we do here.
Speaker: You know, we create escape for people for but just a couple hours a night or a few hours, you know, a week or whatever, so they can forget about the bullshit. And that's, you know, that's the great thing about people who write about tragedy and and going through shit and dealing with shit and musicians, in my opinion, as as a music fan.
Speaker: ah I like when artists can put their heart on their sleeves and put it to pen to paper. It seems like you do a lot of ah lot of that. Yeah. And like i can show this actually. this is no one actually gets to see this.
Speaker: ah They're not going to be in deeply. You'll see the extent of how often I do this. So this is my little notepad. Each one is like ah chapter book of clear except I can get this thing there we go yeah great where's Justin my name Justin okay
Speaker: nice each one's a different song Jesus Christ dude that is a lot Yeah, each one's either a different song, a different verse, a different cypher.
Speaker: ah ah just want to say yeah yet another exclusive on Glick's House of Music. I get them all, bitches.
Speaker: Yes, sir. So do you do you ever dabble into the world of ah of like freestyle or anything like that? Have you ever just like sat down at the at the laptop and we was just like, fuck it, I got this beat I've been playing with and I don't know what I want to do with it?
Speaker: And then you just sit down and do a little freestyle. Yeah, actually, I, uh, my first experience publicly was I was battle rap. Oh, nice. Hell yeah.
Speaker: Yeah. Um, uh, I stopped battling though. Cause, uh, I started, us it started getting unsafe. The last battle i did, like an actual ah competition battle, I had a gun pulled on me. So, I mean, I considered it a w Damn, you that mad? That's how I it.
Speaker: Yeah. Donaldson, can you share your current video of Ghost? Unfortunately, I cannot. Yeah, and um unfortunately, yeah, there's there's something that can, not share, something that cannot do to contractual agreements.
Speaker: that's That's going to be coming out here before long, correct? Can you... can you Talk about when it'll be released or anything like that? Yeah, it's going to be probably January 1st is when my project is going to be done. But mean, I'll release some things here and there.
Speaker: Shut up, J. Devin. I got to grab the dryer. That's it. That's it right here. Shut up, Devin. yeah We try to I'll tiptoe around on what I can and can't get out of artists sometimes. Sometimes I get way more than I should.
Speaker: ah we had a lot when I first started doing this. What am I early on interviews? I had a kid on here. He's super famous on TikTok. They're a ah on a honing.
Speaker: I am and his dad and his mom and his and his wife. They're super famous on TikTok. And he decided to get into the world of music. And I had him on here. and And he was like, well, i don't know if I could.
Speaker: but ah And he was like beating around the bush about everything. And his wife was in the chat and she was just spilling all the fucking tea. And he was like, well, ah guess we're going to talk about it.
Speaker: Yeah, actually, I have a manager. I'm trying to see if I can get him to come up. TJ? Yeah. Yeah, good dude. I actually got talked to for for but a little bit a while back. when we The first time we had the the interview set up.
Speaker: ah Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Like I said, i've been I've been jamming out to... Hey, TJ, can you come on this interview with me? Villain like crazy lately, Donald. oh i know so because I wanted to introduce you.
Speaker: Nice. yeah ah Yeah, I can get you link. Are you already on the... and Yeah, we're live right now. We're live right now, buddy.
Speaker: All right. i was I got to yeah usually usually when I do the show, i I just pick out the music. But I got the rare and chance tonight to have Jay back there with me backstage as I was downloading the music and got his input on the on the couple songs that I should play tonight. And you know he he picked one that I was already hovering and hovering on. and Well, both of them I was already planning on playing.
Speaker: So it worked out it worked out perfectly. We didn't even mean to be, but we were on the same wavelength. as far as what music put up on the show tonight. The man that's about to come on here ah changed my life, man. He's given me opportunities that I would never have dreamed of.
Speaker: you know One being Jesse Howard is one of my heroes, and I got to share the stage with that man.
Speaker: Nice. And TJ did it out of the kindness of his heart. you know I never went looking for management. you know I never begged or anything. He chose to do it out of the kindness of his heart because he saw something in me and that meant a lot to me.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. This is absolutely. Yeah, man. And again, it's funny how people organically show up in your life. Right around that time that you know you kind of kind of need them to.
Speaker: Speaking of you know getting to share the stage and stuff, is there is there anybody out there that, I don't know, if do you write solo by yourself or do you you ever write with people or anything like that? Nope. I actually take very, very, very huge pride in writing my own lyrics.
Speaker: Nice. I've had people offer. i I kindly decline. I'm like, it's a pride thing. Yeah.
Speaker: And, you know, as I said, I started in Battle Rabbit and Battle Rabbit, that was a diss. Hey, Precision here, he actually did a ah review of one of my open verses I jumped on with Jam Wayne.
Speaker: Hell yeah. yeah
Speaker: Excuse me. I do know Wayne. I don't know him, but I know his music. Yeah. There's another guy I've reached out to. so man Some people blow up fast, man. You got you gotta you got to really try to get in there quick on some artists, man, because some people, it's like, man, I've been talking to Zay. I was talking about Zay.
Speaker: He was on last week. you know He's like, I've been doing this thing, doing this thing. I'm still grinding. I'm not giving up. you know But I know my day's going to come. And then there's others. It's like they just pop onto TikTok or Instagram or something out of nowhere and just completely fucking blow up.
Speaker: Yeah. So sometimes you ah you got to be you got to be quick trying to get guests. And I always tell guests, if you know anybody that you want to send this way, feel free to slide them my way. I have an open door. Everybody and anybody is welcome.
Speaker: We got TJ jumping in backstage. There you What up, TJ? What's going on, everybody? you all hear me okay? Yep. Gotcha. Gotcha. good I just want to jump on here real quick with y'all ah meet everybody. and I'm fixing that to drive home. It's nice to put a face with a name or a face with a voice. we did We did get to chat on the phone for a little while, a couple weeks back.
Speaker: Yes, sir, Mr. Blake. How you doing? Doing good, man. Doing good. How you doing? I'm doing good. What y'all got going on?
Speaker: I was going mention your Jam Wayne track. What up, J.P. Fresh? I see a lot of people in here that I know.
Speaker: So I got you here, TJ. and and And right before you came up, Jay was talking about how you you just kind of organically came into came into play.
Speaker: Can I get your side? Like, how'd that work out for you with becoming Jay's manager? were Were you looking for new talent or anything like that? Or was it just like right place, right person, right timing, just kind of happened?
Speaker: Well, no, not really. I would i wasn't looking actually. ah I've never really been interested in managing an artist just because, you know, a lot of these artists being a promoter for so many years, I've come to know and, and like and I've built friendships and relationships with these with these guys and gals out here.
Speaker: And managing someone, I've seen it go south a lot of the times between the artist and the manager. And ah i see I see a lot of arrogance out there, if I'm being real, with a lot of artists that want to do things their way. They don't want to listen to what you have to say.
Speaker: And so it takes a lot for someone that that's never really just managed an artist to manage an artist because they don't... Sorry about that.
Speaker: No, you're good. Because I just don't want to put myself in a situation where I mess up a friendship or a business relationship with anybody. And the artist...
Speaker: don't just represent their self. They represent the person that's managing them and vice versa. the The manager represents their brand also. When you get those variables mixing together, it can be a it can very well be a disaster at times. you know One person can make one person's brand look bad or vice versa or both.
Speaker: So I never really wanted to manage anybody because of that. But I guess the the temperature was just right, man. I got on on a live one day and I see see this kid who's trying to be an artist and get his music out there. And hes trying he seemed genuine. He seemed like he was a good kid. And then I see people attacking him and calling him things that he's not. I think when I met him, someone was calling him a pedophile.
Speaker: And I did my research on the situation and realized that it was just someone running their mouth. So I started defending him. And I got tired of people that were seasoned in the game, taking advantage of him and trying to keep him down and hold him down by talking shit about him. So I kind of took on the big brother role right there. It was like ah ah natural instinct for me.
Speaker: I was like, hold up. If y'all gonna fuck with him, y'all need to go through me first. don't talk shit about him or you're going have a problem with me type thing. And then I kind of looked at his music and he he's got talent.
Speaker: He's got a lot of talent. He's very lyrical. He just needs to be pushed in the right direction. So from there, I decided, hey, you know what? I'm going to be this kid's manager and I'm going to kind of cover him from all the bullshit and try to guide him in the right direction.
Speaker: So that's how that came to be. Does it almost seem, and and and and you being a promoter and and and whatnot, now starting to slide into the managerial role, role and and and and and as an outsider, me being an outsider and a fan of music, it seems like in some genres of music, you have guys that have been around for a little while, and they do want to hold down these younger artists. They're almost gatekeepers.
Speaker: in a way. you know They want to take advantage and they want to hold down these younger artists, whether it's jealousy or whatever. do you do you Do you see that? Do you agree with that? Or is it am I just way off base with that?
Speaker: No, and I wouldn't call it. I don't know. um I know a lot of artists out here are much as much as they're trying to solidify their place in it.
Speaker: Like at the end of the day, this this genre and this business is so oversaturated with artists that it has become a competition. Like everybody's fighting for a spot because the spots have pretty much filled up in this thing and is overflowing with artists of doing the same music, saying the same things.
Speaker: and everything else so now it becomes a competition because what do you have when you have when you have multiples of things and you're trying to consolidate it down you're throwing others the other shit away you know what i'm saying you're throwing away duplicates and everything else so that they're they're afraid that they're going to be that duplicate that gets thrown away so they're kind of fighting for their self it's the best way i could put it as far as the way i see it now there are artists out here that will take taking advantage of people they think it's a rich get rich quick scheme or they think that they have to be paid right now and not pay their dues and you know i get it it's all about the hustle to them but it's so much more than that man and I'm trying to but like I said it's kind of trial by fire for me also being a manager to him we're kind of learning together
Speaker: Yeah, no, I, and I've talked to other artists and and and and to kind of piggyback off what you said about the get rich quick schemes and, are get you know, type deal.
Speaker: There's artists out there and a lot of the artists that have come through doors here on on the House of Music, so to say, they do it for the love of the art.
Speaker: They're, you know, like they obviously the ultimate goal is, is, is success, whether, you know, one, one way or another, but and you know, their, their main focus is what they do, the music they make, they want to make sure it's good. They want to make sure it's quality.
Speaker: And it's, it's also really weird to me how like different genres of music, um, create their or treat their peers because i have had a lot of country artists come through here.
Speaker: ah And in the country world, it seems like they're pretty big family. You you get your your bad apples, but you're going to have that regardless anywhere you are or anywhere you go.
Speaker: You're going to have your bad apples. But for the most part in the country world and even the rock world, they seem like they they really look out for one another and they, they, they, they push each other and, you know, I'm talking to a lot of artists down in Nashville and they're like, Oh, I mean, I've filled in for so-and-so's band because they didn't have a singer or so-and-so's guitar player came and helped me because my guitar player broke his hand, you know, at work or whatever.
Speaker: But then you have other genres that are just like, who can I step on to get a little bit further ahead? and And unfortunately it's usually the little guy who's actually out there,
Speaker: in my opinion, putting the best quality and, and, and actual really good music out there. Not just trying to create a, I say this a lot, and yeah chi because like a TikTok trend. you know That's because a lot of them feel threatened by someone who puts out good content.
Speaker: They feel threatened and they, ah they have to do away with them as soon as possible because they feel like they're going to be overshadowed by someone who's doing better than them. Uh, but that that's a big part ah of the problem in this genre, man. A lot of people, when you say gatekeeping, i don't see it as gatekeeping. I see it as survival of the fittest.
Speaker: You know, and and people click up out here and and they use those clicks to push other people out. But what people don't understand, this is why I don't believe in gatekeeping. and There's over 8 billion people in the world, right?
Speaker: Yeah, right. like Not everybody is over there in that and in that one group of people. So if you're being gatekept, it's because you're gatekeeping yourself. You're keeping yourself in a box because there's plenty of of platforms. There's plenty of demographics and fan bases that you can target that's not there.
Speaker: Fan base. yeah you know so 100 that i believe in gatekeeping i believe in people gatekeep their self because they're too hung up on trying to be a part of a of a crowd
Speaker: no absolutely i mean you know unfortunately in in the entertainment world you're gonna have you know you you look at the country circle and or the rock circle or or your guys' is genre or rap or hip hop or any of that, you're going to have so many people trying to do the same thing.
Speaker: They're not trying to do the same thing. Being a promoter for so many years, i have connections in different genres, like so many different genres, especially in the rap. like when I say genres, I mean sub genres, your country rap, your trap rap, your, your horror core, or, you know, ah i think I've even discovered somebody here not long ago. I told them I felt like they were hippie rap and I ain't never heard of no hippie rap. situation You know, so that might be a new subpar jo sub genre coming out. You know, you never know, but yeah, you never know.
Speaker: Peace, love you. Right? yeah You ultimately you just try to find your your your little your little spot. and And, you know, it's the same thing with podcasting. I mean, I tell the guys all the time, just be ourselves. Just be yourself. Be genuine. Do what we do.
Speaker: And people are going to love us. They're going hate us They're going to find us. They're not going to find us. Whatever it is. You know, but we don't need to pretend to be somebody else that or something or somebody that we're not. Let's just do our thing. Correct. You know?
Speaker: Yeah. I try to set myself apart as a music show because, yeah, it's an interview, but I also like to hang out with the artists. I also like to get to know the artists and who they are and have some laughs. and and and you know I've been very fortunate and very blessed that a lot of friendships have come come out of it. I'm grateful for that thankful for that because they're like, ah hey, Glick, I got this new song.
Speaker: you want to I'm like, I'm already on top of it. I've already got it downloaded and I'm to play the hell out of it across the network. yeah You know what I mean? Are you aware of the show that I'm having November 8th?
Speaker: I am not. Go ahead and promote it. let me Let us know. Let everybody know. I was going ask if you wanted to come out. I've already got there there's one media social media group that's coming out to do interviews with the artist education connection connection.
Speaker: from Missouri. okay I'd like to invite you if you wanted to come out, you're more welcome. I'm having a show for my little brother with several palsy. He's in a nursing home. I'm going bring him out. Everybody, you know, he's stay's very well known. I have him on lives all the time.
Speaker: He's in a wheelchair and we got a show out here in Pulaski, Tennessee. My flyer is on my page, on J Devil's page and and everything. But if you'd like to come out and interview artists, you know, you're more welcome to on that day.
Speaker: Let me let me look at schedule wise and finances. And if I got my kids, that's going to most important thing. If I got my kids. But yeah, man, that would be that would be amazing to come down and and and meet everybody. why I like doing things like that, especially to network for artists to create a networking opportunity for other artists.
Speaker: um that nobody paid for a slot. Nobody's paying, you know, I think if the fans want to get in or whatever, they pay $20 at the door or $30 for a couple.
Speaker: And whatever comes in at the door will go towards my little brother to get him Christmas or winter clothes and stuff that he needs. Hell yeah. And, ah man, it Big Smough's going to be there meet and greeting with everybody that pays to get in You know, free meet and greet.
Speaker: to hang out with but Big Smough. I also got several other artists who are planning on coming. They're trying to move dates around that I can't announce. Just kind let it be a surprise if they do show up.
Speaker: But some bigger artists, when I say that, they're they're kind of Smough's level. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Yeah, I'll 100%. And send me that flyer over and we'll throw it up on our social as well. We can pin it on our social. views in that so is sir Yeah, we can 100% throw that up on our social.
Speaker: We can actually get it up on onto StreamYard as well and share it out. Just blow it up onto the screen during our shows and, and, and shout it out. Absolutely. And, uh, like I said, I'll check my, all my things and, uh, I thank you for the invite. I would love to come down and, uh, you know, do some, uh, prerecorded interviews or hangouts or, or whatever.
Speaker: Blazing Blasphemer said, what sub genre would you consider yourself if you were to put a label on it? If you're talking about J devil, I would probably say J-Devil is more hardcore oh type, genre.
Speaker: ah Me, I don't have a genre. I'm not an artist. I've done some songs with some of the country rappers. I've done a song with Mark Cotic. ah This is a hobby. I'm not an artist. I'm not putting...
Speaker: nothing into myself. Like everything I do is usually into everybody else, all the artists and, you know, creating opportunities for them and helping them grow as artists. So that's my job in this, in this business. It's been my job for years and I love doing it and that's what I'm doing.
Speaker: It's not about me whenever I, Whenever I'm in this business and I conduct my my business with people, it's never for myself. It's always for the artists and for the fans, you know, the community.
Speaker: So. Oh, yeah. yeah
Speaker: god i've got that I got that flyer. We can get that. shared out yeah this as well i like the I like the championship belt there on the front of that. Can I bring mine with me? yeah Absolutely, man. That belt actually belongs to my brother.
Speaker: That is my brother's belt. If you zoom in on it, the nameplate says Big Bad Bubba on it. Big Bad Bubba. Hell yeah, that's awesome. I took a picture of that belt. guy that helped me with the flyer, he he put that on there for me.
Speaker: Hell yeah, that's awesome. is that is is your Is your brother a wrestling fan? or ah he's ah he's visit' that He's been a wrestling fan his whole life. Me and him both. you know yeah okay you know we always watch always watch wrestling with him. His favorite wrestler Undertaker.
Speaker: Nice. thats Daphne McCool. Jeff McCool from... ah
Speaker: my mind just went blank. But Jeff McCool and Daphne McCool... a
Speaker: The Undertaker's wife is Jeff McCool's sister. And he's an artist in in country rap. Daphne's gonna send Bubba's belt off to The Undertaker and have him sign it.
Speaker: Nice. That's awesome. that That would be really cool. There there is a horrorcore artist that one day I hope to collab with, and that's Skits Craven.
Speaker: One day. We're going to be presenting my brother with an award, too, at the show on stage. A friend of mine got in one of those glass. What's James Luker?
Speaker: Looks like a little spade-type award, and it's going to have promoter of the year with his name on it. Nice. he'll feel like he's a part of what I'm doing.
Speaker: Hell, yeah. That's awesome, man. Hey, James, what's going little bro? ah Yeah, if I can get down there, I'll absolutely. cause these Actually, these are for the Saturday night show that I do, whichever side it is. These are custom-made championship belts that have the the show logo and and everything on them.
Speaker: And they've got my name and stuff. And then I've got a smoking skull belt as well. So I'll bring at least bring one of them down if I can get down there. I'm a huge wrestling fan, so I had to have a custom-made championship belt to represent the show. Oh, my God.
Speaker: But that's awesome, man. That's a really cool event. I like that. I like ah like what you do for your little brother, man. and that That speaks volumes, you know, who you are as a person and and and and a big brother. I mean, I'm a big brother. I got i got four sisters.
Speaker: Four and a half sisters. I got four and a half sisters. There is a story about my little brother, man. So me and my brother have the same dad, different mothers.
Speaker: His mother was full-blooded Hawaiian. Her name was Rose. And my dad used to keep in touch with him. That's how i always kept up with him where he was at. it ah and two thousand In 2004, my dad passed away and i kind of lost contact with my brother.
Speaker: And for 13 years, I looked for him. And I can't tell you the countless dollars I spent going from state to state, going to old addresses that I looked up from him and everything. And 2017, the mother of my children found my stepmother and I got in touch in that town. i was told that he was on hospice and I'm freaking out. And so I call Brunswick.
Speaker: Oh, we lost him. It's all right. He'll bounce back. Yeah, might have disconnected. So Blaze asked, guy he said, you guys are the strange music area. yeah Any potential collabs there in the future for you but you that you can speak I have talked to Stevie Stone before, but that was a while back.
Speaker: But we didn't go into much detail on any ideas.
Speaker: So anyway, I found my brother in 2017, went and surprised in two thousand And in 2018, his mother found out she had pancreatic cancer. e And we filed for guardianship for me so I could get guardianship of him so he wouldn't become a ward of the state in the event that she passed away.
Speaker: and I waited months for a court date. I finally got a court date and they granted me guardianship. And three days later, she passed away. So it all happened really, really fast where I had to bring him to Tennessee from Brunswick, Georgia, get his Medicare, Medicaid, and SSI set up in Tennessee. and You know, the houses up here aren't really handicap accessible where I was living. So, and it's hard for me to lift him. he's He weighs as much as I do.
Speaker: ah lot either he's ah He's at the nursing home, but I go get him from time to time and take him riding on back roads, listening to music or I'll get him out. Like I'm doing this show for him. I'm get him out of there for the evening and give him a good evening.
Speaker: Hell yeah, man. That's awesome.
Speaker: TJ, seem like good good guy, says my boy Robert Platinum. and I try to be. but And yes, Robert Platinum, I've absolutely knocked people out for my sisters. before I've done worse than knock people out for my sisters.
Speaker: ah Yeah. So everybody always asks me why was always hot-hitting, why I always fight and resort to fighting a lot. I grew up fighting.
Speaker: My little sister had AML leukemia. She passed away in St. Jude. So when she was on her chemo and she was bald and people stare at her or talk about her or they make fun of my little brother and call him retarded and all that stuff.
Speaker: I was always fighting as a kid, man, growing up. That's all I did was fight. Like that day. That is the one thing about me. Like it was never a malicious thing. It was always in defense, but I got damn good at it.
Speaker: there That is on my team. being Back then growing up, there was a lot of motherfuckers. It wasn't like today where people are like, that's politically incorrect. You can't say that word. And no, they they were fucking harsh with that shit. And they would really talk shit about people like my brother or my sister. and I was always in the, into some bullshit. i was always in trouble.
Speaker: Yeah, no, I did say that's, you know, I just, I was, I had four sisters growing up and you know, it's just a, an automatic role as a big brother. And, um, I know we, we, uh, we had some special kids that went to our school and was always just in general on anti-bully. I mean, I got bullied when I was younger. um just because of where I lived and what I look like.
Speaker: and I learned one day that I'm the biggest guy in the schoolyard, so I can crack some heads. And then when I when i moved in with my old man and, you know, we had some kids with special needs and even some friends of mine that were bullied, and I'm just like, nah, this ain't, this isn't how we do things around here.
Speaker: Not as long as I'm wandering around like a big Sasquatch, you know, just lumbering around. Right. It kind of became a necessity, not a want, but a necessity to learn to throw hands and be very good at what I did.
Speaker: Well, yeah. Well, see, I was good that was the complete opposite. I was the smallest guy on on the schoolyard. You know what I mean? Like up until about my late 30s, I never weighed over 160 Like I was
Speaker: But I learned how to get get my strength up and use my speed and agility and stuff. And then I just started, once I got older, I kind of blew up from there.
Speaker: I'm a fat motherfucker. I was like 14 years old and six foot tall and 200 pounds. so yeah Yeah, that wasn't me.
Speaker: What's going on, Miss Kristen? I'm about yeah I'm like six two six three right now. six two I think 6'2-ish. About 280, 290. I'm just a big boy. Everybody here on the network calls me a Squatch.
Speaker: so I'm okay with it. No, man. so Back to J-Double, we're working on some things. he He's kind of recreating his sound, his his brand.
Speaker: He's revamping it right now. We're in the process of redoing a lot of things and getting him prepared, you know, to go full force next year. And i think I think that's the best if he'll ever listen to me when I when i tell him what not to do and it's hard to ask people to do it.
Speaker: You know, I tell him all kinds of things and he just don't want to listen. He thinks he knows better.
Speaker: That's it. that's you Jay, how old are you, man? If you don't mind me asking. twenty nine 29. Yeah. yeah That's it. That's it. Yeah. i remember being in my, uh,
Speaker: late teens, t twentyies and I knew everything, and I could take on the world. Nobody tell me nothing. and Nobody tell me nothing.
Speaker: I ain't listening to No, man. But you I think Jay has spoke very highly of you. he He respects you. He respects what you bring to the table. and and you know And I think yeah i think you know just from talking to you and talking to Jay a little bit behind the scenes and and even the little bit that we've talked about tonight, you know he's he's eager. And Jay, I think, I mean, you can tell me if I'm wrong, but you seem like you're eager and you're ready to turn the page and and take on this next chapter and and and be better as an artist and and grow and learn.
Speaker: I'm always hungry. Yeah, he's got to learn that eager is good over eager is bad. And there's a very fine line between that. You know, you don't want to jump into something too quick. And that so he's got to learn his patience.
Speaker: Patience is key when you're trying to build your brand and you're trying to do it the right way. patience Patience is the virtue, Jay. And I'm still trying to learn that. but somebody I'm a very patient man.
Speaker: Sometimes. like ah the chat I can tell him, okay, J-Devil, so we're not going to anything for the rest of it. And this is that an actual conversation we've had.
Speaker: All right, Devin, we're not doing anything else this year. You can come down for the show and perform Bubba's show. But as far as making music and all that, like I don't want you do anything the rest of this year right now.
Speaker: I want you to save your money up. That way you can get the right the the proper equipment for good sound quality. i want i want you to, you know, your research, ah kind of read up on things and and tighten yourself up before you even step back in the in a studio or record yourself.
Speaker: And the very next day he's sending me a song. Look at this song I just recorded. Like, come on, bro. All right. aye He has done that, but i love I love it. I love the, he's wanting to take initiative and do things and and i respect that.
Speaker: You know what I'm saying?
Speaker: He's just got to trust in himself and trust in me if that partnership's gonna work, you know? Yeah, he's got to, Jay, and I can tell just from talking to you, you're very passionate.
Speaker: And you showed me, you know, you showed me here youre your notebook and and your notes and stuff like that. You know, you got your brain is constantly, we were talking a little bit back behind the scenes and you know, ah you were like, dude, look, you're pretty creative. and My brain's the same way. I'm always, what can I do better? What can I do next? You know, it's just, through you know, I got my notebook, an actual notebook because I'm old that I jot down notes all the time. You know, like I said, I tease Blaze all the time. If if I die before him, it's it's his job to burn this notebook. <unk>s something There's nothing bad in it, but it's going to make me look like a goddamn crazy person. You'll probably see blue lights flashing in my face right now.
Speaker: ah you're Making music it keeps me out of the dark place. i was on my way home and I fucked up and went down the wrong road where they're having an affair. So I'm kind of stuck in traffic right this second.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah, Jay, I feel that, man. Listening to music keeps me out dark places. Doing this keeps me out of dark places, to be honest with you. Doing this is this is my this is my happy place. This is kind of where I can come and and I can...
Speaker: do what i you know Do what I love, and i feel that, man. I really do. like Keeping your keeping it away from them and bad thoughts in them and bad feelings at the end of the day. Yeah.
Speaker: We've been wrestling with them for many, many years, man. um I got them under somewhat control, but every once in a while they get a little extra feisty. so I feel that, man. I really do.
Speaker: What... what As far as, you know, getting on stage and performing, what is your stage presence like? Are you are you a performer? Are you more of a, I'm just going to get up here and sing my songs and Robert Platinum.
Speaker: I'd say I'm definitely. a devil How's that going for you? What what do you do on that? Like, I'd be interested in hearing your answer on that one. Honestly, it's a. ah It is kind of a difficult question for me because i don't look at it as me putting on an actor performing. it's It's like me like putting a point across in a way. But I do i do struggle like making eye contact interacting still because when I'm on stage, like i don't it's almost like I don't see the people almost. You got to go into your own zone. You're and in your in you're in your own world.
Speaker: yeah So then you better sort of what that's part of what we're working on, the shows that I had him on. and And he has come a long way in like four shows.
Speaker: um I've gotten, I think four shows, four or five shows since I've been with him. And from the very first show, I started preaching stage presence because he kind of backs away from the crowd and he's made, he's made actually some good strides towards that.
Speaker: He did the Outlaw Nation show in Cookville and did really good. Yeah, I said, I drove six hours. Let me hear some noise, Cookville.
Speaker: but told him, you know, I told him if he wants to capture a crowd, he's going to have to be in their face. And an artist that I can use for a good example would be Richie Valor.
Speaker: Richie Valor, when he performs, if they're not up that stage, he jumps off the stage. So we were in Ohio, Oxford, Ohio outside. People are sitting at picnic tables and they're not standing at the stage. So Richie Valor jumps off stage and he jumps on the fucking picnic tables with the people sitting at it.
Speaker: And he's right there at them, you know, and with his performance. And I said, you you've got to capture the crowd. You've got to connect with them. whether it's to make eye contact or something, you have to make them want to hear what you have to say.
Speaker: Or it's gonna go in one ear and out the other, you know, and it's gonna be kind of a blah performance. You know what I mean? Well, I mean, if you look back at music history, some of the greats, David Lee Roth, Dee Snider of Puss and Sister, um Kiss. i don't even like Kiss.
Speaker: But Jesus Christ, if you go to a Kiss show, you're locked from Jump Street because it is a theatrical performance. you know Stevie Nicks or Cher or any of these you know know these artists.
Speaker: And some people aren't meant for stage presence and that's fine. That doesn't mean you can't be an artist. So there's artists out here that feel more comfortable behind the scenes, just on their tracks it would no wouldnt not with no live performance.
Speaker: Mm-hmm.
Speaker: How they want to connect with you personally face the thanks
Speaker: no and when people got to ah the people next they get beloved
Speaker: ready caught don with your lyrics ah were writing yeah how they want to connect with you personally nice If you don't have that same energy, it's going to show every time with no stage presence.
Speaker: You know what I mean? No, 100%. And that's something that, um you know, I've talked to artists about on here, and it's kind of where I was going down that road is, you know, one of the things about going to a live show is that live energy. If y'all are still on here when I get...
Speaker: If y'all is going here when I get home, I'll jump back on here. Yeah, you're good, man. I'm going to jump off here and drive real quick. I'm going to go through some bad spots. But thanks for having me on in case I don't make it back. and Y'all go follow J-Devil on his platforms and show him some love.
Speaker: Thanks, TJ. but better Yeah, Linktree slash official underscore J-Devil. Got all the all the good stuff there for you guys. Um...
Speaker: No, Jay, that's why was asking you that question because, you know, wouldn't it's one thing to hear the music, whether you listen on Spotify or YouTube or wherever you listen to your music at. But when you go see the artist, and and and I use this example all the time.
Speaker: ah Way back in the day, I think it was Family Values Tour. First time I ever seen Stained. I love Stained. Oh, that's a great band. Deal with it if you don't like Stained and and judge me if you will. But I love Stained.
Speaker: first time I went and seen a man the entire time Aaron Lewis was like this and he was singing all of his songs and he didn't really do anything and it was just like wow that's kind of a fucking letdown you know and it wasn't that I stopped liking him or anything it was just like god what a huge letdown you know and then about five years or so back I I I was at Louder Than Life out in Kentucky, and they were there. And I was like, oh, great. Oh, great.
Speaker: Staying again. And it was like complete 180, man. Aaron Lewis was running around the stage. But you also got to dive into a little bit of his world when he but he did his country album. And you realized that he was miserable back then because the record labels and his management made him do things and be a certain person that he wasn't. So he was mentally, he was fucked.
Speaker: and i was And then looking back on it, it was like, wow, that makes a lot of sense. I was older, and I understood more, and I'm like, wow. And then you see them, you know, 20-some-odd years later, and Louder Than Life, and it was it it was an amazing set, man. They were fucking awesome.
Speaker: So when you go see ah when you go see an artist live, you want to have that experience. Like, you want to be drawn to them as with their stage presence. That's why I ask, you know, because that's one of the cool things about new artists it is – and And why I love this show is because sometimes I get I'm kind of here around the beginning when you guys are just starting and we and and and we get and I get to watch in my my audience, our audience hopefully becomes your audience becomes your fans and they get to take this journey with you.
Speaker: So, you know, like like TJ was saying. You know, three or four shows ago, we got to see one version of Jay, but yeah next year. we're going to see a totally different one because you're going to probably be more it is that what it is like are you not quite comfortable on stage are you not quite comfortable in front of an audience yet or it's like it's like i have no problem getting in front of ten thousand five people to ten thousand people it's just like it's it's the connection it's just ah hard to hold on to as far as like the presence part because i'm so focused on the emotion in the music
Speaker: And that's one advantage I do have, though, is I was signed to a record label at one point. I was signed to Icon Records. And it is a totally different world, and it's not what I thought either. like like We actually had label meetings where we would go out to a park or a gym, and we would do cardio.
Speaker: And that would prepare us for performing. so so we wouldn't get winded we do stair drills and stuff like that and then uh we'd have due dates for everybody like look i have my screensaver on my phone was literally a calendar for the whole month and each day had a plan for it oh wow like that that's how it was and we'd have zoom calls like once a week like it's literally a job at a label Yeah, it sounds like it. Like, Jesus Christ, man.
Speaker: I just want to make music and sing. larry Yeah, that's what I thought it was going to be. well but Don't you have people that can do all this other bullshit for me? Yeah, and I was supposed to be on a nationwide tour called the Icon Promo Tour, but we I decided not to take it that far because the I just seen immediately the investment was wrong.
Speaker: Yeah, have you... have you
Speaker: since Since going independent is there Are you happier Being an independent artist? Absolutely As opposed to I hear that all the time man It seems like that's where it is More freedom in this Yeah right i li the The first song they released Which is not even out anymore I made them take it down we Was a song called My Ever After And I had a plan Where each song was already made but just had to record them And it was in an order to tell a story.
Speaker: And my after was going to be towards the end of that story. And that was the first one they released. Oh, Jesus. Totally did the opposite of what I said. Oh, yeah. there was There was a method to your madness. And they're just like, and fuck it. We're doing it this way.
Speaker: Yeah. And I'm like, no. but I said, take it down or i'll I'll trash talk the song. Okay.
Speaker: but I'll set up my own song, motherfucker. I swear. I will, too. Especially when it's not when you're doing it out of my vision. but like yeah That's literally what you call that ah exploiting.
Speaker: My art is to save lives, to prevent what happened to my brother from someone else. It's not for your gain. And that's how I looked at
Speaker: Uh, yeah, no, that's, that's the thing. I mean, and, and, and, you know, this is, this is your, and this is your art, you know, um, you can't tell somebody
Speaker: how to do what you're doing. You know, it's, it's kind of like, uh, somebody telling homeboy that painted the Mona Lisa, like, yo, make her smile, bro. yeah swear yeah Like, no, because then she's not, this we don't have this iconic a masterpiece. Mother making his dad. Yeah, you know, or or are they go the Sistine Chapel, you know you know, like, go do it this way. No, bro, like, I know what I'm doing.
Speaker: I'm the artist, you know, I'm the guy who's writing these songs, you know, you're the guy who's performing these songs, you're recording them, you know how you want them to go. Like, don't come in here, you know, this is not your circus and it's not your monkey. So I'm going to need you to calm down, you know. I got my monkeys in line.
Speaker: And I had to start a couple platforms completely over and because of them. Because my manager at the time, her name was Drea. She was she was also a former...
Speaker: Hip hop artist, female hip hop artist in St. Louis. And she's done songs like Lil Baby. She knows Lil Boozy. Her cousin is Head Crack from the Ricky Smiley Morning Show. like Oh, shit. ah but And actually Head Crack actually commented on one of my videos on my YouTube channel. If you look up a Word from the Devil Freestyle, he actually said dope.
Speaker: He sent me a voice message on Instagram saying how much he liked it. Hell yeah, man. That's what's up. That's what's up. And she just completely screwed me over like big time. Oh, wow. yeah Every promise you made was not true.
Speaker: and i man i i don't I don't understand the mindset of people when when they do that and and in life, when they you know they they they make you all these grand promises and then and and they they say they're going to do all these things for you.
Speaker: what do What do you gain from that? like What do you gain from doing that to somebody? Same thing with the Coast to Coast contest. Me and two local artists around here named Jay Grip and Teddy XD, they're like Jay Gribb, does like he's like a college house party rapper.
Speaker: And Teddy doesn't want any regulation. He doesn't want to do shows. He doesn't want to do He just does it to do it. And every time he does get on the mic, it's all off the dome.
Speaker: And we made this song called Mosh Pit. and it was a huge banger and coast to coast not only told me I was accepted to coast coast but kept calling my phone and then I finally answered and I'm like What's up?
Speaker: And they're like, oh, we love this song and we'd like you guys to come out. We guarantee. All right. So we'll bring you into the St. Louis contest. You guys will automatically win whatever and we'll fly out to Florida. But that's when you have to really compete.
Speaker: So they're pretty much setting up these artists for failure. They're paying their way to get on the stage in St. Louis in hopes that their dream is going to come true. Nah, I told him to get bent.
Speaker: will never work with that company ever.
Speaker: Yeah, man. i it And it boils down to you got to do what's best for you. I mean, you are a you and your music, you're a brand. You know, whether you're performing or or making music or just walking down the street, you're representing your brand.
Speaker: You know, you as a person and you got to do you got to take the right moves for you. That's going to, you know, expand your brand, grow you. as an artist, as an individual, and, you know, and, and, and open the door to collaborations with the right people at the end of the day, as you grow as an artist and as you get better and everything else, uh, want everybody to Yeah, man. That's that, that that's ah that's, that's, that's the sayings that I, that I, that I stand by is if I'm eating steak, my boys are eating steak or my people are eating steak. Like if you're at my table, we're all eating.
Speaker: Um, we're all eating the same thing. I'm not going to eat. I'm not going to sit over here and have me a big old ribeye while, while you're munching down a butter and cracker sandwich.
Speaker: but Like get this man a steak. God damn it. T-bone or sirloin. Yeah. TJ made a good point. Has to be marketable. Yes. Marketing.
Speaker: It's very, and very important because you have to make yourself relatable. Yes. People don't relate. going to care. Yeah, it'd be marketable. Yeah, man
Speaker: man. And that's that's a big thing in today's world. Like we were talking behind the scenes you know about algorithms and and and falling right into the right algorithm algorithms when you're doing shorts and reels and and stuff like that.
Speaker: um And yeah it you seem to be a little bit more well-versed in it than I am. I look at social media and as a... They did a study on it. there's only There's only two things that a viewer decides whenever you put out a reel.
Speaker: They'll come across your wheel reel and they'll ask themselves, okay, what is this? And the second thing will be, do I scroll or stay? Mm-hmm. Yeah, exactly. and And, you know, for me, and and and I think there's a lot of people out there, and I know I've interviewed a lot of people, or let me rephrase that, because this is an interview, I don't do interviews, I do hangouts.
Speaker: I've hung out with a lot of artists that feel the same way. And social media is a, it's it's ah it's a necessary evil. You know, you you you have, if you're going to be in the entertainment world, you have to use it to your advantage.
Speaker: yeah ah Because it's only going to help you grow. It's only going to make you more marketable. Make you, you know, put your, like, I got to put my stupid face in front of you motherfuckers every chance I get.
Speaker: ah Fuck the fact that I'm doing like 16 hours of podcasting or more a week. You know what I mean? and um win an now Music is easy for us now. Like imagine back in the day when they didn't have social media, like Elvis Presley, the Beatles, like, uh,
Speaker: Sticks. yeah Rolling stones all and holying Stones. They had RCA records. They had CDs, vinyls, and yeah they had the radio. like That was what they had.
Speaker: so They had to be that good.
Speaker: They had to work twice as hard as we do now. Yeah. No doubt. yeah it's It's easy. And that's why I was saying about some artists. They just want that next viral trend, that next that next viral song. you know What can I do?
Speaker: But at the end of the day, there's no substance. nobody's Yeah, you're you've gone viral on on on TikTok or Instagram or Facebook. But then when they go to your to your music, there's no substance there.
Speaker: And it's so – I hate that we live in a world where bots are a thing. I hate bots so much. Oh, my God, dude. Every other fucking account is a goddamn bot.
Speaker: And they're getting better. Like, they're getting better and better every day so to really kind of – you've got to really be able to sniff them out. Otherwise – That's why i had to start over two social media accounts is because the record label – bought bots to follow one of my old accounts and ruin my monetization possibilities. So I had to completely start over, but
Speaker: but you got do what got to do. And I want to be organic at all times. Well, yeah. And that, and that's, that's the other thing, man, these, these, these artists, or like you said, a label who, who, who, um,
Speaker: buys bots to make but you're not doing anything because yeah they look your number your numbers look good but there's no engagement there there's there's no exactly yeah you're not getting comments you're not getting likes you're you're you're not getting you're really not getting views at the end of the day because you know there's thanks dude appreciate it um well there There's, again, no substance.
Speaker: There's no substance. and And, you know, we've had people, you know, I've had a lot of people go, oh, Glick, you know, you guys... you guys aren't really got a lot of followers or this, that, or the other thing.
Speaker: I understand that, but they're 100% organic and they're 100% real. And those, you could have 30 real followers as opposed to 30,000 fake followers. And those 30 real followers will count way more than those 30,000 fake ones.
Speaker: Yeah. Because they're, they're, they're engaging. They're, they're, they're, you know, they're liking your shit. They're commenting on your shit. They're partaking in the lives. They're, they're, They're doing all the things that you need. So I'd rather have my, you know, 20, absolutely 100% real authentic followers, real fucking people are over 20,000 bots, you know, that are just literally just kind of sitting there in the, in the internet world, just cluttered in space at the end of the day. And with that being said, shout out chat, because it weren't for you guys, we, we wouldn't be here.
Speaker: No, 100%, man. oh since you've had to restart, you said you've had to restart a couple of times. For you personally, that, you know, we're talking about it. I don't mind doing the uphill grind, but for you personally, what do you, you know, sad yeah fortunately we haven't had to start over, but having to start over a couple of times now, how do you personally feel about that? I mean, is it, is it, is it frustrating, and aggravating, just like, like, God damn, man, I really put it all this, all this work in. And yeah, you know, like, how's that, you know, leave your kind of feeling him at the end of the day.
Speaker: yeah It is heartbreaking at first But then you gotta look at it like okay well this is happening for a reason So this has got to be some sort of test Well guess what i'm gonna eat that shit Hell yeah And that's one thing I learned in the Marine Corps Is always get up Earn never given oh yeah that's right you're about it man I forgot you Yeah I remember we brief we briefly touched on that Yeah Yeah I served in the Marine Corps Thanks.
Speaker: Hell yeah. ra I was waiting for it. i how it's good You guys can't help yourselves. The yellow crayons are my favorite.
Speaker: um Okay, fair enough. we got we got We got our boy Sarge, Sarge Modog. he he's ah He's a fellow Marine. He shares his favorite of purple and he shares his purple crowns with me all the time.
Speaker: I've become a fan of the purple crowns. Barney, Grimace, all of the celebs. Yeah, man. That's what's up. that's what's so you gotta yeah you know with Like you said, you know you were you were at welcome You were in the in the Marine Corps.
Speaker: being an artist and and whatnot, how much of that background and being in the military do you do you bring to this new venture in life that you're doing?
Speaker: Honestly, the ah strength to keep going forward and not give up on my craft comes from the Marine Corps because you can only go so low until the only way you can go is up.
Speaker: he does He displays his Marine Corps values every day in that business by having integrity, doing the right thing when nobody else is looking type thing.
Speaker: um <unk>all Y'all were talking about how he feels about having to start over and, you know, what he didn't say that then I know he he knows because we've had this discussion is just he's not really starting over.
Speaker: Oh, we were talking about the record label starting over. Well, no. no I'm talking about, like, every time you have to delete your catalog or start all over and and make new – You're, you're and even, even with the record label after, after the record life, after the record label is not starting over because in essence, in the big picture of that would be, you've learned from it and you've grown.
Speaker: So you never really stop and have to start over. You're still moving forward. You're just growing in that process and it's all a process.
Speaker: right? Like everything you've done, you don't erase that. It's not like it, you can't say it never happened because it did. You have, you have a catalog that was nothing but, uh, excuse me.
Speaker: There was nothing but YouTube beats. Those songs, still happened even though you delete that catalog and you delete them beats and you go and you buy you some beats and do the songs appropriately to where you're actually making money off of those beats those youtube beat songs they happen and you learn from it that's what i love you're not you're not starting over you're learning
Speaker: fuck no one yeah No, no, If you're married to a woman and that, and that marriage fails and and you get a divorce and you go through life and you meet another woman, you're not starting over. You learn not what, what not to do in a marriage and what to do in a marriage for your next marriage. You're it's called growth.
Speaker: It's called learning and growth period. Some people, it takes four, or five, six, seven marriages to learn that. Yes, absolutely. but And it may take four or five different albums of you recording and deleting it. and You know, if you want to get the perfect song, sometimes that one song you record and delete and record and delete and record and delete and mix and master, mix and master six, seven different times before you get the sound that you want.
Speaker: The song Murderer I recorded 16 times. So... yeah Are you going to say you started over every single time? No. You're just bettering the situation you're already in. You're already you're bettering your craft.
Speaker: Your craft has been started. You've been in your craft.
Speaker: So to start over, I wouldn't call it that. Like shedding skin almost. Like a...
Speaker: Absolutely. Yeah, a rebirth. Or rising from the ashes like the phoenix.
Speaker: You know, TJ brought up the beats. um for For you, Jay, do you do you make your own? Do you come up with your own music? Or...
Speaker: How do you grow me? Well, you get plenty of time to learn. so Yeah, i would I used to find them off YouTube, and I got comfortable with two companies that made beets. One was a producer named Freak Von Workum, and the other one was Tuna Beets.
Speaker: And I was really comfortable using some of their stuff. ah but like you said, like i wasn't getting the full potential of like what I deserved as far as what I would make my craft.
Speaker: So one thing and that I am learning now is meeting these producers and buying beats from where I have 100% rights to all of them. So they're my songs. Nice.
Speaker: Who taught you that, J-Dev? That man out there.
Speaker: Yeah. You know, we we've, in the short time we've been together as far as manager and client, We've had people try to hate on the situation and try to come between and say negative things. And man, all in all, and J-Devil can tell you, I want what's best for him.
Speaker: It's not about me. i don't make it about me. I'm not trying to make it about me. It's about him. It's about molding him into a professional. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: Yes, please. Hit that wave button. Smash that subscribe. I'm his biggest critic at at the moment because I can be an asshole to him and I tell him how it is.
Speaker: He sends me a song and I tell him, dude, that's fucking trash. Don't ever do that again. What is wrong with me? I'm harsh on him at times. I love that though. You you you gotta have people in your corner that's gonna be 100% honest with you. You know, I... i I shout out my guy, you know, Blaze all the time. Blaze and I have a relationship, a friendship that came out of nowhere.
Speaker: we We became very close very fast. And one thing about the two of us is we are always 100% brutally honest with each other. No matter, and we you know, you don't want to hear what I'm about to say.
Speaker: But I'm going to say it anyways, because you know I'm right, and you know you need to hear it. ah and and And we do, Blaze and I, we we've bounced a lot of yeah you know, ah one of us will get an idea, sounds great in our head, sometimes once we put it out there in the atmosphere, it's like, you know, maybe not. Or it's like, yeah, man, absolutely, let's run with it. And, you know, sometimes we're wrong, sometimes we're right. And, you know, best thing to do is, to hey, live and learn at the end of the day.
Speaker: But it's good to have that person. That's, you know, yeah, you're going to go, God, are you being a fucking dick? Why are you busting my balls right now? But if you sit down and think about it or you you give it a day or two to so soak in, you're going to go, yeah, you know what? He's right.
Speaker: He's right. But and if you told me everything was failure when it wasn't, you'd he'd just be setting me up for failure. Yeah, exactly. yeah
Speaker: But I'll tell you what, man, I don't know. I don't know for you if it's the same way, Jay. I am my own worst critic. I am my own worst enemy. I had to stop listening back to replays of shows. I used to listen to every show. It's not that I don't like them.
Speaker: I love that sound of my own voice, obviously. That's why I do podcasting. But no, but i would, I would listen to the replays and then I would sit there and I would catch every little mistake or every little thing.
Speaker: And then I would come back to do a show and all that shit was in my head and I couldn't focus. um And the next show is even worse. And it was just like, God damn it. I got to stop listening and to these replays because I'm kicking my own ass over here over stuff that I don't need to kick my ass over. Do you ever find yourself in that ah situation if you when you listen to playbacks or anything like that?
Speaker: Yeah, and sometimes it'll almost be the opposite. It'll not be from like overconfidence, but it'll be from ignorance of knowledge. like ah I'll think, okay, I got this, but I'm missing X, Y, and Z, but I thought I had the whole puzzle when the whole other side of it was over there.
Speaker: yeah know You can be downright arrogant as fuck at times, and we've told you that. so I know. I know. i know I know nothing and about having ego or being arrogant.
Speaker: I am the most humble podcast host you will ever meet in your entire life. I would never go make custom-made championship belts and call myself the champ. Hey, that's what's beautiful about hip-hop, though.
Speaker: Every rapper wants to be the best rapper. Yeah. You've got to have... i think I think to be in the entertainment world, you've got to have a little bit of arrogance about your confidence, maybe a little overconfidence. You've got to have just a little bit of it to succeed. You definitely have to have confidence. And you have to have a ah sense of self-preservation come on two to survive in this game.
Speaker: I've noticed a lot of artists are mistaken to be
Speaker: What's word I'm looking for? Narcissist.
Speaker: And it's not narcissism. What it is, is it's self-preservation. It's you have to worry about what you have going on or you'll never make it. if If you're an artist and you're trying to make it for yourself, you're never going to make it worried about everybody else in the game.
Speaker: Now, are there narcissists out here? Absolutely. fucking lo oh Absolutely. I see a lot of people who are not narcissists that get mistaken to be narcissists. And it's in they're not by a long shot. I've seen them help people on their time, you know, on their dollar. And narcissists don't do that.
Speaker: You know, so... that's and and and that's That's the other thing. you know You brought up the fact that there's 8 billion people um this on on this planet, whatever the number may be. Right. 8 billion. yeah In the in the in the and the entertainment spectrum, in the entertainment world, the internal the internet is is massive. There's room for everybody.
Speaker: you know I preach this a lot. like We don't have to shit on somebody or try to hold somebody down, there's plenty of room for everybody, you know, as a, you know, whether it be musicians or podcasters or comedians or actors or whatever.
Speaker: Unfortunately, it's going to happen in a perfect world. It would be amazing if we could all get along and we can all, we can all help each other. But, there are those of us that are out there that want to build a community. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker: Well, like there's there's another artist that I'm starting to work with and I haven't gotten in full, full fledged managing him yet. Uh, But there's an artist that's been in touch with me, asked me to work with him and give him a shot. And his name's Lil Crest Fallen.
Speaker: That's his artist name. Okay. Brayden Butler. And but what what did we say his his subgenre was? Emo rap. Emo rap.
Speaker: You know. So I would not put him on a show with Outlaw Nation. or would put him ah on on a show at the Redneck Rave or somewhere like that, you know, with country rappers. His demographic would be more of St. Louis, Missouri, where they have the Juggalos, or in Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker: Memphis, Tennessee has a good fan base for that type of rap. You know, the home the home of 3-6 Mafia, obviously, that that's a good demographic and a good...
Speaker: market for him. So it's really all about getting in where you, where you fit in. and and building your own fan base.
Speaker: I see a lot of these artists out here just coattail riding like, oh, I see this is working for this artist, and he's got all these fans, but if his fans see me with him, then they'll be my fans too, and it don't work like that because that now you're shortchanging the fans because you're making them think that you are the same person that the the guy they're they're really there to see.
Speaker: yeah And you're not the same person. You're a different type of person. You're a different type of music. And you're not being honest with yourself, much less the fans when you do that.
Speaker: So if you go out here and you target your own fan base and you find an an area that listens to emo rap or you find an area that listens to just country rap or trap rap or ah you know heavy metal rap, whatever it may be, you're going to you're going to prosper quicker and you're going to prosper more genuinely than you would if you were riding someone's coattail. Because these fans aren't stupid. They'll figure it out in time.
Speaker: And all they're going to is turn against you. Yeah, it's it's it's one thing. but You know, there's some people in our viewing audience that found that lesson out the hard way. I know y'all still watching. How y'all doing?
Speaker: but ah but But no, that's what I mean. there's There's a huge difference in coattail riding and building a community and and getting the right eyes and ears on on people.
Speaker: Jay, for you and where you're located at and you're your geographical region. um And what in what you do, is there is there a big fan base or a following for your sound?
Speaker: have you have you Have you found out yet? Figured it out yet? Yeah, where I live, there's there's a whole music community. like like i can I know 30 artists I can call right now. yeah yeah we're not we're not We're not talking about artists. We're talking about a market for your your genre. For for your sound. Oh, yeah. that Oh, yeah. know are there Are there people out there, fans in your area, if you were to do a show and they know your they know your music?
Speaker: Yeah. I actually just did one in February. It was a horrorcore Valentine's Day show called Love You to Death. And I got to be the same poetry there. And what what would you say the crowd was?
Speaker: Juggalo, mainly. like how How big was the crowd? About 350, 400.
Speaker: Nice. You see what I'm saying? so if If that's where your fans are, you would be a fool to go to Georgia with someone like Bez Belie.
Speaker: Right. They get on a show down there. Yeah. Eddie Robinson, the drummer of Outlaw Nation, sat down with... I remember him.
Speaker: with J Devil at the Outlaw Nation show cook well last month and August 23rd and was talking to him and he's from that area and he knows the business really well and gave him some pointers.
Speaker: oh i guess I guess what I could say, my personal experience, I live in Tennessee in a little town called Lawrenceburg. Mm-hmm.
Speaker: And it's a county over from Pulaski, Tennessee. And if anybody knows what Pulaski, Tennessee is in their history book, it's where the KKK originated.
Speaker: It's where Nathan Bedford Forrest is from. me and... me and My better half, we decided, you know, they weren't allowing rap shows here.
Speaker: I think somebody tried to bring Young Buck one time before we started doing shows out here, and the the police and fire marshal shut the show down, wouldn't let them have it.
Speaker: They found whatever, so I brought Lil White out here. And we we started targeting certain audiences, right, to bring the crowd out and show that we can have shows out here without having violence because rap has a bad reputation.
Speaker: nationwide like Let's say say it for what it is. ah when When you tell people who aren't familiar with the genre, oh, I'm having a rap show, the first thing they think is there's going to be shootings and drug deals and and everything else and fights and everything.
Speaker: So we we went out there and strategically had a show to where the fire marshal couldn't fuck with us. We had security on deck. So the police, you know, were happy. They didn't have to really do much to anything.
Speaker: And from there, we just started building a market out here in the middle of Pulaski, Tennessee for rap shows. yes Now i'm bringing now i've I've done brought to this little Bible Belt town, home of the Ku Klux Klan at one point.
Speaker: We've had ah
Speaker: Seed of six three Six, the kids from from Three Six Mafia. We've had a Little White. We've had Big Smough. We've had Haystack. We've had a Mark Coddick.
Speaker: oh now we've we've got this show that we're going. like We've had Up Church Redneck. We've had Up Church Redneck out here before. um but Jackie 2 Chainz, Jelly and Struggle,
Speaker: ah a bunch of different shows out here, and not once has our shows ever been shut down, and now there's a market here for it. So now the underground has a market in these two. We built we we we made built a fan base for the underground rap scene.
Speaker: Just off of our our work ethic alone. Yeah. So there's always somewhere. I didn't have to go to Nashville where they were already already doing shows or to Memphis where they were already doing shows.
Speaker: I picked a little spot, no name town. in America and started having shows and built a market from the ground up to help these artists.
Speaker: And artists can do the same thing. That's my example. Artists can pick a demographic of people and build their own fan base from the ground up.
Speaker: Yeah. and Yeah. Yeah. 100%. You know, in, in, in, um, yeah one one hundred percent
Speaker: you know in in in My area, it's it's it's funny when you see because where I'm at in Ohio, you get a lot of country and rock bands that come through here.
Speaker: But it's wild when you see somebody outside of those two genres come through, um like even my my town ah where I'm at, and they'll pack a bar out.
Speaker: And it's like, I didn't see that coming because, you know, they may be like... a I don't want to say you know, like your guys' genre or like they might and might be just something like random weird off the wall. Like, ah oh, God, I had a band on here not too long ago. They were like hippie pop punk type music.
Speaker: And there there was the there was a band like them that was at a local bar and the fucking place was packed. And it's just like, I wouldn't have thought that that fan base would be here, but sure as shit.
Speaker: It's fucking here. yeah All different. That's one thing I've learned. I moved around a lot as a kid. And what I learned from that but by being in so many different areas is I learned a lot of different walks of life. I've been around all kinds of different walks of life.
Speaker: And that's what I learned. You could be even here, here in this little Bible Belt town. It's known for having all these racists and rednecks and country people and everything else.
Speaker: But there's a demographic for rap. You know, like, just because someone one doesn't see that walk of life around their area doesn't mean they're not there.
Speaker: You can go to Memphis, Tennessee, and you think, oh, well, it's just blues and rap. But you would be surprised at how many country motherfuckers come out of the woodwork for a Luke Bryan show.
Speaker: u You know what I'm saying? So... Yeah.
Speaker: And the same for Chicago. Like, you see all these cities that you think is just rap-oriented rock-oriented and stuff like that. And then all of a sudden, you see all these motherfuckers cowboy hats a cowboy boots coming out to the fucking bar and packing that motherfucker out for...
Speaker: a country singer, you know, and you'd be like, oh, well, I didn't know we had that demographic here. And yeah, man, you'd be surprised. Motherfuckers stay at home because they feel like there's nothing there for them because people don't take a chance.
Speaker: and Yeah, I was going to say i think I see out there to bring something like that for them. I think I think it's a build a whole different respect for you. And I think that's the other thing. I mean, you know, the venues or the bars and stuff like that, some of them, you want to bet?
Speaker: i you I'll see you in the morning. um yeah yeah They don't want to come out of their comfort zone. They know what they know what packs you know what what what fills what fills the the bar and stuff like that But, you know, there's one place right up right up the road for me that I love the place. It's really cool little spot, and it's a great little fun bar.
Speaker: and Not little, but and they got a great stage area, and they bring acts of all kinds in, man. They have no, they're not like, we're going to go country and rock, and that's all you're going to get from us. They bring all kinds of different acts in and and stuff like that, and and you never know what you're going to get. you You know, you might walk in there on a Friday night, and like I said, you you might have a an all-male share cover band in there, but the fucking place is packed.
Speaker: Because they're taking chances, and they're showing that other side of other artists and stuff. So, you know, I like that a lot. True story. As a promoter, when I first started promoting, that's what made me I love all music. I listen to Christian music. I listen to rap, rock, country, jazz, R&B.
Speaker: why um I even listen to classical music from time to time. like I appreciate all music. And... no what made me so adamant about being a promoter in the underground rap scene was I go in these bars out here in my local area and they always have Southern rock bands or they always have country bands or, or heavy metal bands or bluegrass bands, you know, and nobody ever brings that genre of music to the their, to their venue.
Speaker: So, I reach out when I'm out in public. I read the room. ah read the people I'm around.
Speaker: ah listen to what they're saying, you know, and I've heard people, man, they always have these bands and they always have this kind of music. Why don't they ever have a rap show? You know, and and there's a whole.
Speaker: like swathful of people in this town that feel left out in their town because nobody ever does anything projected to them.
Speaker: You know what i mean? Or targeting them to help them or give them something fun to do. And so I started doing that and I've never had, knock on wood, I've never had a show down here where I haven't had less than 200 people in in a little venue.
Speaker: Nice. You know, when Up Church first started, i brought him out here for a Halloween show. People didn't even know he was a rapper. They thought he was a comedian because of Lil' Larry on YouTube.
Speaker: And in a little venue with like 186 people capacity, I had over 300 people in this venue thinking they were going to a comedy show.
Speaker: And he comes out with, I stay in the sticks with the hicks and the firearms just going crazy. And the crowd goes nuts. They're like, well, how'd you meet how did you fit that many people in the venue?
Speaker: That's my secret. But I'll i'll i'll give you all some game. You have a capacity limit in a venue, especially in a bar.
Speaker: You make it no smoking, so they have to go outside to smoke cigarettes. As long as you have people walking in and out in and out, there's no way that a fire marshal can keep the fucking count of the people.
Speaker: I used to bounce in clubs and bars and concert venues and security. and That was one of our tricks. None of my indoor shows have I ever allowed smoking inside because as long as you're going in and out, capacity is out the window.
Speaker: Game. game
Speaker: Yep. no by that that the avenue that was ah That was a lesson i learned a long time ago. was you know you'd give us we we were We were given the door clicker and the manager said, once you hit this number, don't touch it again because they have to go outside to smoke.
Speaker: There's no way you can tell who's who. You can't remember. yeah Yeah, exactly. I mean you know i've worked at some clubs down on campus.
Speaker: And I'm in Ohio. Ohio State ah is is the end-all be-all in Ohio. I don't understand it, but no ah ah it is what it is.
Speaker: And I've worked at bars and clubs on campus, and knew goddamn well that Max Capast was 300, 400 people, and we had every bit of 800-plus people in this motherfucker.
Speaker: But, hey, they're like, as long as they're coming and going, nobody knows. I'm like, how about it, man? Whatever, man. I'm just a guy. I'm just a guy to keep the peace and make sure, ah you know, I check IDs, you know, whatever. Outside of that, ain't my business. Not my circus, not my monkeys. I'm cool, bro. As long as they going to get my ass in trouble.
Speaker: So I want to get ready to start wrapping this up. But before I do, I do want to play one more song here. I'm going to play. ah
Speaker: Jay, again, like I said, kind of helped me out and just made my choice easier because I was already already thinking these two songs. But the second one, Jay, you want to give us a little behind the scenes? I know we we we were talking a little bit about it, but I was going to play Psycho.
Speaker: And i know you got I know you got a guy in here with you. You want to give us a little info on the song? So that song actually has a bigger story than most of my songs do because that was the first time i ever wanted to like expand to let others into my craft.
Speaker: So I put an open first challenge on Snapchat and some people sent me some stuff and this dude named David, goes by Zanny Bodeur.
Speaker: zany bour Nailed it And what was crazy is there there was an account that messaged me, Joseph Utzler, and he goes by Shaggy2Dope.
Speaker: He actually messaged me interested in it, and I thought it was a fake account, and it happened to not be a fake account. But ah I told him no that because but the first challenge And then i was invited to open for ICP up in St. Peter's, Missouri.
Speaker: And again, not thinking it's real, thinking it's fake. So I didn't show up. So he decided to FaceTime while was at my friend's ex house. So he was kind of pissed off because I just didn't show. But I was honest with him and he was understanding eventually.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, if you you again, you've got to be careful. You've got to protect yourself if you don't know if it's real not. I was like, he's being scammed. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: um So we're going to play this last song. We're going to come back and kind of wrap things up right wrap things up with Jay and TJ here and get the flock out of here because, as I said earlier, it's a school night and I've got to get up early.
Speaker: Big bad bumper bash, November 8th.
Speaker: Yes. We'll pop that when we come back too, TJ. I'm going to get this song in real quick. that We'll be right back, guys.
Speaker: Freak, are you kidding me? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Fire Style.
Speaker: I'm psycho and might go fucking loco any second I'm a psycho. Pick up in this trade jacket prescription, out some fucking nuts, they can't even name the condition.
Speaker: Wasn't me, I swear, but I couldn't give a description, but they had no patience.
Speaker: You get it strong, just rip it Push it in again, another goddamn murder conviction I just played what's in my head, it was a fantasy fiction It's exactly what's predicted, this by how's you been evicted You're gonna feel it's too, even if you came to resist it Welcome to my murder show, it's a psycho exhibit Only show a fuck of me will only get you a ticket I'm a chaser guy, I just been pushed to my limit If you start with riding now, come get made in a minute Tell I'm coming, crush your heads like I'm juicing a lemon And keep fucking riding, see the shit say
Speaker: If you're coming my way I'm a psycho and might go fucking local any
Speaker: I don't think you understand that I really got problems. Fuck a schizophrenic genius. Do my best to solve the main ones. I'm on the process.
Speaker: Murderous monsters as I stand.
Speaker: I'm psycho and I might go fucking local
Speaker: I'ma take the mic, go and catch a half, I'll make you drop it Put a stick in like college, you see this how I say cops It is this time showing up and I pull a recordist Rip the jeans of a target Rip the stage on Phoenix and Soilet Call me Raviton man, I'm coming to harvest It was poor little Christmas Eve for humans for harvest
Speaker: Came and dropped the party, now I'm facing the tarts. Want to reach the phone for it up and like you pitchers to farts. When it comes to being the limit to my vicious feeling. I'm a dog in this game, you fucking asses been bitten.
Speaker: Ain't even cool, cat pussy fucking asses are hitting. Gave you all these warning signs, maybe you shouldn't. Just listen, keep on getting burned. And stay the fuck out of my kitchen. The way I'm cooking up these bars, you need to pull me up.
Speaker: It's nice to meet you. My name is J-Devil.
Speaker: Hell yeah. ah Psycho by that man right there beside One and only J-Devil. Guys, check him out. Linktree slash official underscore J-Devil.
Speaker: If you can't find him, follow us on social media because you know what? I made it real easy for you guys to all find him. I tagged him in everything. YouTube, Facebook, Instagram.
Speaker: He's all there.
Speaker: So check it out. him some love. TJ, before we get out of here, you got anything you want to add? Any any ah any last words, final thoughts? Okay.
Speaker: Yeah, I want to thank thank you for having us on, man, and having J-Devil up and inviting me up to be a part of and thank the chat for listening.
Speaker: Anybody who watches it, you know, go show him some love and show him some support. At the end of the day, all the all these artists, man, are chasing their dreams, and the only way those dreams come true is if the fans support them, you know, so...
Speaker: always promote promote promote share that music the best promotion is word of mouth me absolutely absolutely Jay you want to throw anything out there before we ah before we roll out for the night yeah for all the people out there that don't believe themselves and have the same dream but too scared to chase it just do it only live once Don't ever give up.
Speaker: Amen to that. Guys, I want to say thank you very much for coming on here, man. You know, this the show has become very special to me, this particular show on the network, because of my love of music and being able to introduce so many amazing, talented artists.
Speaker: Jay's in that list to our our fans, our audience, our crowd and and and whatnot. Don't forget, November 8th, the Big Bad Bubba Bash.
Speaker: where But was it Pulaski, Tennessee? Pulaski, Tennessee at Barb's play in Rose Hill. Barb's play. Yep, there you go. ah Bring your own chair because it's outside. We're going to have fire pit.
Speaker: It's going to be nuts. Yeah. it's gonna Jay's going to be there. Several other performers are going to be there. I may travel my big ass down there. i will see I'm going to kidnap Glick. There you go. A very kidnappable. Just put free beer on the side of the car and I'll get in like a jackass.
Speaker: but and And thank you guys, as always, for hanging out and listening. Tune in tomorrow night. Myself, Michael, and Brittany will be back doing Wild Card Wednesday. I believe Michael's hosting that one.
Speaker: We're going to be talking our favorite sitcoms. So tune in for Wild Card Wednesday. think Wally's back on Thursday. I'm not quite sure what's going on with Wally's World, but I think he's back on Thursday.
Speaker: Friday night. Nonsense and Chill, hosted by Blaze and Michael. It is Stoner Trivia Night. So we are doing trivia. It's the end of the month. As always, anybody and everybody is welcome to join into the trivia.
Speaker: But let me call out this warning. I'm going to be there, and I am the reigning, dominating champion. Can't be stopped. Can't be beat.
Speaker: And trivia. ah Movie trivia. Saturday. Movie trivia? Yeah, movie trivia. Friday night. Friday night, and they're doing all stoner movies. ah Friday night, I'll be at that River Rat Festival.
Speaker: oh but We're going to have to set up a time where I can challenge you. Because I'm a pretty big movie buff. Every, every, ah every, the it the last Friday of every month, Blaze does movie trivia.
Speaker: And every month is a different theme. This month happens to be stoner trivia. So I'm excited. As always, I'll be there popping in, making my monthly guest appearance on Nonsense and Chill.
Speaker: And then Saturday, make sure you get. October will be what? Spooky trivia or spooky movies? What is he doing? I think he's doing that. Blaze, you got your ears on. Are you still out there, brother?
Speaker: I think he's doing the Halloween franchise for October. that Yeah. Which is awesome. I think that's what he's doing. I could be 100% wrong.
Speaker: And he'll tell me if I'm wrong. um And then, of course, Saturday night, you guys know the drill. Nonsensical nonsense. ah That's our baby. That's our cornerstone right here. It's six hours of absolute anarchy and craziness. We open the doors. We invite everybody and anybody to come out and hang out with us. Get in the panel. Shoot the shit. It's uncensored. It's real. It's raw.
Speaker: And then for all you football fans out there, tune in Sunday. 1230-ish, 1 o'clock-ish, myself, Rick, and sometimes Derek Wayne Douglas, former guest on this here show turned co-host on Unnecessary Roughness, where we talk all things college football, NFL, and a little fantasy football. I'm there for that.
Speaker: Oh, I'm there, yeah, for sure. Yeah, we we that's ah that's we we were going to do a sports show, and we we learned that... uh, not everybody knows enough about, I'm, I'm the exception. i know a little bit about everything, uh, because I'm a nerd and I love sports, but, uh, we, we, we learned that, uh,
Speaker: some people don't pay much attention to other sports. So we were like, you know what? We're going to take a break for the summer and we're going to kick this bad boy back off when football season swings back around. So we're back. We're doing, and and we decided to do a little bit earlier start this year. That way we can dabble into and made a reminder on but on a messenger Sunday where you got live so that I know y'all are doing Cause I'd love to be a part of that. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
Speaker: I'm on sports. Yeah. Yeah, we we talk a lot of craziness. It gets a little animated in there, you know. um And then Monday, monday I believe Wally. Again, I believe Wally's What are your football teams, college and pro? College, I am a Michigan fan, a lifelong Michigan fan.
Speaker: And same with my pro team, Wally. going make fun of me, and that's okay because I make fun of myself. I'm a Cleveland Browns fan. I'm a diehard Cleveland Browns fan. All right, who's your guys' teams? I'm going to have fun with you.
Speaker: I'm a Tigers fan and a Vols fan. though Ah, nice. Hell yeah, man. Let's go Vols. And a Grizzlies fan and Memphis Tigers. Yes. but What did you say, Jake?
Speaker: What's your teams? Mizzou and the Tennessee Chiefs.
Speaker: Oh, Jesus Christ, there's always one. There's always a homo. but well Well, ah Derek Wayne, who who does the show with us, he's a Titans fan.
Speaker: So, you know, we have fun. love my Titans, man. Yeah, we we have fun with it. we i mean We make fun of our own teams. Rick is a Buffalo Bills fan. Not much to make fun of in Buffalo because outside of not being able to beat Patrick Mahomes in the goddamn playoffs, Buffalo is pretty goddamn good.
Speaker: When you say in Michigan, is that the Wolverines or the Spartans? Oh, yeah, it's Wolverines. Not little brother. Not little brother. Not little brother. yeah I'm a bad guy, too.
Speaker: but I'm born and raised in Oklahoma. I like the Spartans. ah You know, I'm from Memphis. My kids went to White Station High School, and they're the Spartans, same logo and everything. So whenever whenever the two Michigans play each other, i tend to go for the little brother.
Speaker: yeah little brother little brother i was in military school and i was part of team five bone crushers which ended up turning into team five spartans
Speaker: yeah being born and raised you know watching all queens unless it's alabama or georgia or amen to that fuck alabama absolutely 100 but man and it tennessee Tennessee's been one of those underdog teams that I've liked for years in college football. I called the governor's office. There was a situation down here, and I called the governor's office in Alabama to find out, you know, what their laws down there were about a certain thing.
Speaker: And they winded up telling me, they volunteered this information, that in the state of Alabama, it is legal to marry your first cousin. Wow.
Speaker: You can tell. Look at the people in Alabama. that is ah That is an actual law in Alabama that you can marry your first cousin. And I just, I'm good on that. du that i got That and the age of 16, they consider the age of 16 age of consent, no matter how old you are.
Speaker: That's gross. senior that's what made That's what caused me to call the governor's office because there was a 16-year-old girl and a 62-year-old man together, and they got married wow in Alabama.
Speaker: like Why is reverse cowgirl... I don't support the state of Alabama. not Sports, none of that. i got an Alabama joke. Why is reverse cowgirl illegal in Alabama?
Speaker: Because it's illegal to turn your back on family.
Speaker: Yeah, no. ah Yeah, we we we do. We have a lot of fun talking sports on Sunday. So, yeah, check out everybody out there. Check out the rest of the shows. I'll be back. I think I'll be back next week. I don't know if I'll have a guest or not, but I'm going to try to do something next Tuesday even without a guest.
Speaker: Maybe we'll play some music or something. I'll i'll get my old DJ. DJing skills out and do a little little music for you guys or something. We'll see what happens. JTJ, thank you guys again. Really appreciate you guys coming up. had a Great time hanging out with you guys. been a privilege. We appreciate say you. and so that yeah Be easy. I'll talk to you tomorrow.
Speaker: Call me anytime, brother. Absolutely, brother. i appreciate it man. Have a great night, guys. Hit these buttons. and
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