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Introduction: Transition to Linguistics
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up. Oh, and welcome to an impromptu Thursday night. It's not race cars and trucks and lizards and
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i left the overlay ah oh and welcome to an impromptu thursday night it's not race cars and trucks and lizards and rabbit babies it's uh it's it's baked banters with with me and my lovely co-host britney britney how you doing i am doing okay as much as i can be she's like we need to start getting ready and i hit the go live button he just like hit it he hit it right away i did
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Cheers, Jersey. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Jersey, what's up, girl?
Diving into Linguistics: Enthusiasm and Apprehension
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We Brittany and I decided to go ahead and just like shoot the shit about linguistics because why the fuck not?
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I swear, when you brought this topic to my doorstep, I'm like, I got excited, but I'm nervous too because this Linguistics is like one of those like big brain fucking... Oh, for sure.
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it's absolutelyly It's definitely a fucking complex, broad-spectrum type thing, for sure. Brittany was due diligent, and she took notes, and i I'm unprepared, as usual.
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I'm still kind of unprepared, too, so this is like... this is I can't listen to the sterners talk about smart shit type of thing.
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Basically. Yes. Yes. This is sort of a, this is what Michael and I do in the morning contemplations, which I hating. um I'm not going to lie. i I don't have to take too much notes on linguistics. Linguistics is like one of those things. It's always been in like a peripheral as because it,
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it's ah it's It's a tool that is applied in philosophy and supplied
Influence of Noam Chomsky
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in psychology. It's applied in a lot of different areas. And um so linguistics is something that's kind of always been kind of there for me.
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um My my um resource when it comes to linguistics, and he is like the the foundational tool marker when it comes to linguistics in the modern era and that's gnome chomsky so i'm chomsky yeah yeah i'm sure you probably came across that name while you were going through some yeah i was doing my research i have heard of non-travelsy before but honestly um yeah some of that stuff is out of my room
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if if there's any If there's anybody out there in the audience that's like fucking punk rock, like real punk rock, you're probably familiar with M. Tromsky. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, he's very... Yes.
Fundamentals of Linguistics
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Well, so I will go into it and say the definition um linguistics. Yeah. is the scientific the scientific study of language and its structure, including the study of morphology, syntax, and phonetics, and semantics.
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that is impact And ah there should be pragmatics too. Pragmatics as well, yeah. That's what I wanted to say. yeah um So if people don't know what those things mean,
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Look it fuck up. I don't know. I thought you had a quick definition of them all. No, I do you have the definitions of each one. I just wanted to be a dick.
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She's like, you only get part information. done Go look up there. Go do your research. Do your own research.
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i I gave you the definition. Now
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now I do have definitions of the branches different linguistic type stuff, but we can get into that. We just started. so We did.
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yeah this isn't This definitely is not a subject that we're going to cover in completeness. Yeah. This isn't super serial.
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Yeah, we're not super serial right now. Absolutely not. No. Fuck no. It is an interesting topic. um It's a hard topic talk about. It's not languages. Everybody speaks, right?
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Huh? Everybody speaks, right? and like Everybody speaks, but right linguistics is the study or the science of language language is one thing that us that really separates us from the rest of the animal animal kingdom when it comes to us humans it's like part of our brain structure if you leave yeah if you leave us in a room by ourselves like from the
Language Development and Human Evolution
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birth to whenever we're gonna come up with our own language in our head right we're gonna have we're gonna it might not be like
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the normal vernaculars or lexicons that we're used to today that you look up in a dictionary. but But we're programmed to pick. Yeah. the Or the bricktionary.
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Or the glicktionary. yeah um But What is the word? Language is normal... what is the word language is as normal Us learning a language and communicating with each other is just as natural and normal as growing and learning to walk and run.
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It's part of our our our evolutionary makeup is the whole... and Exactly. so greater middle of atlan Kind of like a simplistic form. um This is why Gnome Tromsky is a huge, huge but huge Huge. i don't I think he's retired now, but he used to be a professor at MIT.
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You guys know what MIT is. Is that Maryland Institute of Technology? Yeah. Yes, actually. Yeah.
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You know what? you probably You probably, I wonder if you've ever ran into Noam Chomsky and probably just didn't realize
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and right headphones left You're muted. You muted yourself. both that's only so My bad.
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You're good. ah here But if I ran into him, oh my god, I probably didn't even fucking know it. That would have been so cool.
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The thing I would pick his brain about, oh my god. I want to get into... i don't want to get into all the subcategories.
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Okay, that's fine.
Semantics vs. Pragmatics
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But i do want to highlight I do want to start off by highlighting two specific ones and because I feel more comfortable talking about these ones.
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Semantics and pragmatics.
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Okay. i i'm gonna this is this is ah This is a Wikipedia thing that I'm going to read, so... Oh, Wikipedia. Semantics and pragmatics are branches of linguistics concerned with meaning.
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These subfields have traditionally been divided according to aspects of meaning. Semantics refers to the grammatical and lexical meaning, while pragmatics is concerned with the meaning in context.
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but Within linguistics, the subfield of formal semantics studies the detonation or the ah detonation diettro ah The denotations of sentences and how they are compromised or composed.
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The meanings of their constituent expression. It's how it's processed. Yes. Or proceeded. Descriptive is and grammar is how to do it. And prescriptive it is how you ought to do it.
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Yes. Prescriptive is how you ought to do descriptive. descript ah Words in general are descriptive. We do have prescriptive conventionalities around words.
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ah You and i no no two people speak the exact same language. Correct. We all have our own language. But and kind we're but culturally, we overlap enough to where the majority of our language is is is understandable between both.
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and Grammar is the assembly of words, phrases. When we get into grammar, talk more about syntax. so Yeah, that's more grammar. I am a grammar person.
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um You know I'm going to so So that also includes in the the fucking linguistic type thing. It's so complex. It's insane.
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yeah I want to give it an example. I'm going to try to give an example of semantics versus matt um i cant it up pragmatics. So let's say I say it's cool outside.
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Well, if you take that so you take if you take that like semantically you know by the death by the book definition of those words, then you're going to probably think that it's probably about 65 degrees out, 60 degrees outside. It's not the feeling. Temperature is a cool feeling.
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However, if you know me and my vernacular and how I use the word cool, I wouldn't typically like pragmatics. I wouldn't mean, oh, it's cool outside. It's it's it's cool as in it's rad. It's dope. It's yeah. Yeah. It's like, it's sad, dude.
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it's No, I get what you're saying. And that's that's totally how i go about it, too. Because, ah well, obviously, this is why i have a show together.
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Starner talk, man, is so different. See,
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that's also a thing of linguistics, though.
Dialect Diversity
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It's like... Everybody has different, like even dialects, you know, like ah Hispanic people speak Spanish and they won't understand the other Spanish person because they're from another another country just because the dialect is different.
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So it's just like languages are so interesting. It's crazy. But yeah, stoner talk, that's what we got.
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ah want to i'm trying to think i'm trying to I'm trying to find the right category to talk about because when we're talking when we're comparing languages, especially when we're comparing against different cultures,
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you and I are stoners. and so There's certain words within the stoner subculture that we would use that on outside that subculture, that word wouldn't mean anything other than you know, more of a semantic, uh, like concentrate, like, Hey, you do concentrates.
Subcultures and Unique Words
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If I asked somebody that's never done weed before, smoked weed or know what a concentrate is, they like I don't know what you're talking about. right It's just, but they understand what concentrate means. You know, uh, you focus in your thinking or you're, you're, you're concentrating, uh, a chemical down by removing other chemicals around you. Yeah.
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Yeah, that's more of I love how you put it down into like stoner vibes. Like this is how... If you're a five-year-old, this is how you can explain.
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Oh no. Oh no. No, I got you. But no, if anybody doesn't know...
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He's got you. Yes, I'm clearly not.
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I tried. she She took notes. I want to hear some more of your notes. This is why I didn't take notes. I've been listening to Noam Chomsky. and and So i sent I sent Brittany a โ I just want to โ sorry, I'm walking over here.
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There you go. I sent a video to her of a professor โ Or doctor. i don't Don't watch it. i praise you. Don't watch it. It's 50 minutes long. It's Steve Pinker. It is pretty dry, but he is a pretty dry guy. but he It's very informative.
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He's a psychologist. Fair. Fair. there um i am you know some of it was interesting.
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Like, with the descriptive and the prescriptive, like, shit. Like, there was some of it to it. But I just, like, I was about to fall asleep when I was watching. ah I like how he how he said that language is a window into the mind.
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I do like that. And I knew that's why you sent it to me. Because you are very mindful person. and try that. So, what is... So what is your perception on his, um you know, his perception?
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The biggest thing I wanted to point out from that video, even though it was like 50 minutes long, and I'm just going to like summarize. He's a psychologist. Linguistics is a specific study of science studied by a linguist, like like a linguist, like Noam Chomsky. I keep bringing him up because it's only one off the top of my head that I know.
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He's the most famous one. But linguistics can be applied to psychology. Right. Because it allows ah allows the psychologist to understand the mind of the of their of their subject or the person they're working with.
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Well, and like the vibrations of what you hear and everything, that is what got me like really, I kind of, I dig that shit.
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and Okay. That's my science talk. I'd be that shit. Oh, God. are You're not going to bring up the penal gland. Well, yeah. like Just like the the vibrations and everything that you hear is what creates the language. And that's what makes you learn it.
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Also, with linguistics, I do want to fucking bring up sign language for people that
Sign Language and Its Importance
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can't hear. That's a good one. i Every time I see sign language on TV because i have I'm hard of hearing and I absolutely have family that are deaf and have been deaf.
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So like sign language is also another big thing in linguistics. And I feel like everybody needs to fucking learn it. Even just the fucking ABCs, seriously. and I'm a big advocate on that for sure.
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I have to admit that I have been lazy at that. I don't know American Signs. I know there's. and so um But I'm glad you brought that up because I never really thought about linguistics in that that vein.
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of sign language, but it is another language. It absolutely is. It's another language. It's like, think of like if you're in a apocalyptic state, like there are going to be deaf people out there and you have to be able to, well, I mean, it shouldn't even come to that point to go to an apocalyptic point to have to learn sign language. but I just think like you're trying to save the humanity just because they're deaf doesn't mean they're not worth saving.
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So it should be good to be able to communicate with those type of people, and know? Oh, no, I agree. i don't think so. i don't have to know sign language in order to communicate with somebody that doesn't, that can't speak, that has to sign.
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And I say that, and I say that because we as humans, can interact on a fundamental level. I hate to say this, but pointing and grunting. I know that sounds, I know that sounds,
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ah of um what's that word i'm looking for? Very ignorant. Yeah, I mean, it sounds like I'm coming off as like reductionist. But It's true though Because you can You can come Because I have a lot of deaf friends That have been born deaf That will You know they can understand And they read lips And stuff like that Thank you Fuck you Even as child When we're starting to form our language And sounds
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as a child when we're starting to form our language and our sounds um Language, i don't so I don't want to confuse. There is typology, but I want to go into language. i want to like For this conversational purpose, I want to exclude typing and writing language.
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Typing and is is because that's artificial compared that's artificial in linguistics because that's ah that's a taught thing. Language in its essence is something that we grow into.
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It's growth thing. And so people that have that were born deaf. So what Jersey said, you can also write it. Yeah, I get that You can also write it.
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But that's almost like an insult to the deaf people sometimes just because like, oh, I have to write it. Like you don't know anything. It's I don't know. It's a deaf community type of thing.
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And I don't speak for them, but no, some of them I have had. I don't want to say that completely for the deaf community, by the way. I've heard people say that.
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I know what you're talking about. I've noticed that coming from people. I find that way. I hate.
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This has nothing to do with linguistics. However, it does have have something to do with language Language is linguistics. And people's people learning new languages.
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ah Me as a as a sighted person, um I don't read Braille. I don't know slang language. I don't know any other language English.
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um I know a little bit of Latin because I did take Latin in high school, but not enough to really. It's not something I exercise with. There's really a lot of Latin.
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It's helped me when I'm reading words I'm not familiar with. and i It helps me with root words. Root words it helps with. And that's a part of linguistics too.
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That's part of historical linguistics. I could see that. yeah ah but um um So when I meet somebody that speaks a different language and they also are learning to speak English, I understand that They're doing more than I am when it comes to trying to communicate with me.
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So I try to be as respectful as possible. I think that's the same way when it comes to somebody that that you need that uses uses Braille and will also take the time to learn to read lips and write and stuff like that for us.
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But when we don't do it for them, i can kind of see how it's insulting to them. I completely understand that because I see that when it comes to immigrants, when you know They're told, you better learn English, but us English speakers won't even meet them halfway and learn some of their
Linguistics for Survival?
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yeah I see where that ends up. Oh, for sure. and I'm just going to come out and say it. My dad he married a woman from Ecuador years ago, and he still doesn't know like half a lick of fucking Spanish. um how ah yeah it's just like It's almost insulting at that point.
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yeah But I feel like important, though. When it goes back to the apocalyptic shit, I feel like it's important to learn that shit.
00:23:08
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Language is another one of those things I've noticed. And I've caught you and I doing it. And I catch this with a lot of people. Not just you, but you and I talk a lot, so i i it stands out.
Miscommunication and Interpretation
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past conversations. What? You and me? We talk past each other. No, no, no. We talk past each other. Like, you'll say something and I'll say something.
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what i What my meaning is is different from the meaning you but you g delete or that you got from what I said. Does that make sense? Okay, continue. What are you saying? Oh, nothing nothing and nothing specific. I'm just saying, I'm trying to point out how our languages are different even though we're using the exact same words.
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Oh, true, true. Yeah, yeah. You're not right. Like the context or the the pragmatic meaning is is lost on the other person because of our separation for whatever reason, regional.
00:24:08
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is a lot of communications happens online nowadays, and I notice because I is i do a lot of it. Like I engage a lot. I notice a lot of the conversations I have, a lot of the breakdowns and understanding between me and my interlocutor is because we're talking past each other.
00:24:27
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The definitions I'm, I'm reading when I read his words or their words might not be the definitions they're using when they write those words. Yeah.
00:24:38
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Yeah. And it's also delayed.
00:24:43
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Well, yeah, there's the delayed part of it. Yeah. Especially because that if it's not in person, it's not going to be transferred the same way.
00:24:58
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One thing i don't think linguistics brings up too often is body language.
Body Language in Communication
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Or am I wrong about that? No. Well, I don't know.
00:25:13
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I don't know if that has to do with linguistics. No, it doesn't, but it really bugs me that it... Because I think part of human communication is our body language, the way we move and flexion or tones.
00:25:28
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um If this isn't the most obvious fucking bullshit ever. What?
00:25:39
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You're killing me, Smalls. What did I miss? Nothing. Anyways. So one of the ones that I liked. I
00:25:53
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already did it. That headphone dropped again. My ear holes are too small. um oh Oh.
00:26:06
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One thing I did want to ask you that I wrote down. What are some languages that you would like to learn? oh Huh. i good Give me two.
00:26:18
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Two? Or give me your your Mount Rushmore of languages. But I'll probably never get around to them because I just... That's not that important to me in life, but French, German, and Spanish, and Portuguese.
00:26:36
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No, because Portuguese and Spanish are pretty close. Okay. That's why I constructed too, because a lot of languages are very similar. Yeah.
00:26:48
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Yeah. And that's another part of linguistics is that, yeah, there's, there's root languages, Latin being one of them. Yeah. There's, there's non-romantic languages and there's romantic languages. There's dramatic languages just because like, like there's Germany and there's the German language, but dramatic language goes outside that border. It's like a regional open and there's like a lot of like overlap of the same kind of words what they mean so gonna say for i was gonna say English just to be stupid but well which English oh oh
00:27:38
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British, let's go. I like to talk like this a lot. Do you like when I talk like this? but so I have a question for you.
00:27:51
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This is something I don't do. and
00:27:55
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the when When engaging in communication with a baby, like you got you go over friend's house and you got that newborn baby, do you sit there and do baby talk? You already fucking know I do.
00:28:09
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And then I'll talk like this in a British accent. so In a baby British The doesn't bother me. accent, I think, is fine. Yeah, I don't i do it.
00:28:20
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I sent you a fucking video. and i don't go I don't do baby talk with babies. I talk to them like I'm talking to any other people. I can't fucking help it. Well, okay.
00:28:32
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It's not every baby. It's with certain babies. Like when it's my loves, my friends, my best friends and family's babies, then I'll be like, do, do, do, do. No, well, actually not always because some of them are ugly.
00:28:48
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Don't tell my cousins I said, never mind. Hashtag don't tell my cousins because they're watching.
00:28:59
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Guess which one it is because there's so fucking many. They'll know which ones they are.
00:29:08
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they don't, then, that's so i know I don't talk to babies like that. I talk to them like they're a human being. Yes, I don't expect them to answer back like they understand.
00:29:20
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I just sometimes It's just like if they're cute Then they're cute and I'll be like Fuck you Fuck you smart i want kids I want kids to grow and be smart So I don't go goo goo goo Yeah yeah Yeah so like yeah yeah What's up, Wally?
00:29:42
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My friend's kid is like three now, I think. And he goes around he'll be like, fuck.
00:29:52
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And it's so funny. But she makes like, they make sure that they don't go around saying that in public and, like, you know, like, cursing in front of children. How do you feel about that?
00:30:09
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Okay. um I was trying to think, how does this fit it and into linguistics? but i think It does kind of. I think in a syntax kind of way when you're coming and when you're talking about rules,
00:30:22
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um i me, when it comes to quote-unquote cuss words, I don't believe cuss words are cuss words. I think it's about... I think it's about the context behind the words being used.
00:30:34
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Not the actual word. Because I can say, fuck you, and we're joking, and it's funny. Or I can say, fuck you. There's that context. But the word fuck itself isn't is it the problem with me.
00:30:50
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It's how it's being used. That's for any word, any goddamn word. and yeah I love how you said goddamn. Actually, right now, Chris, from one to one to ten, I'm at a zero. I'm not stoned right now.
00:31:06
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I know, weird. I ran about it. It's going to bug me. And I'll have to talk about it later with that conversation about, like,
00:31:19
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Yeah. Anyways. But curse words talking about like, and it ultimately is up to the parent and how they raise them.
00:31:31
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Whatever. But like when I bring in like the church and stuff like that, it doesn't stay in the Bible. You can't say fuck. Okay. I'm to say fuck every time.
00:31:43
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I don't want to bring this. I don't want to go down like, I'm sorry. No, you're fine. It was me that did it this time. No, no, but no, no, no, you're not, because language is also, it's it's a social thing, and it does reflect our, yes, there's some, yeah, yeah, like our cultural experiences, religion included. It reflects other things, and it affects other things, yes.
00:32:15
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controlling our language is a way to control us again this is something else how it's used this is something gnome chompson goes into when talking about uh um manufactured consent one of the ways that we one way manufacture consent is manufactured is our language is controlled by exactly by rules Some arbitrary, some not. I'm not saying all rules are bad. I'm just saying not all rules are... A lot of them are made from the
00:32:48
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from the... From other linguistical cultures. yeah oh Tune in next Thursday when Michael and I talk about... No, next Thursday when Michael and I talk about Puritan realism.
00:33:02
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Oh, Jesus. I'm not going to be a part of that. Religion is going to come up in that conversation. It's it's not going to be pretty. yeah Maybe I should be a part of that just because, you know, that one time at church camp.
00:33:20
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I'd tell you what. The last time I enjoyed going to church was in basic training because it was the only time i could get away from having to do stupid chores and take a nap.
00:33:32
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Oh, that's sad. You know, I... and
00:33:37
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I need to be careful the way I say this, I think. um So the Pentecostal church, I definitely had a hard time dealing with.
00:33:51
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The non-dominational church was a little bit easier
00:33:58
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easier. What's non-denominational? Oh, non-denominational. Okay, yeah. i'm um i I didn't hear the non part. Okay. I'm not saying names.
00:34:09
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That's just like ah that's a... you tear Where you have no denomination. Yeah, no, I know, but there's like another name for Euteritarian. Euteritism, whatever. Yeah, I feel like... Something like that. Euteritarian.
00:34:25
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Euteritarian. I'm totally fucking... I think I'm confusing with utilitarian. but I know that's not who would. That sounds like a word I know.
00:34:36
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Let's go smoke a bowl. no
00:34:41
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It's a Bible-based. What church isn't a Utility. It it is
00:34:56
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um we're doing great. The non-denominational church also does go by the Bible. But the Bible doesn't say don't say fuck.
00:35:08
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So I'm going to say fuck. i I just don't look at the Bible as a book for me to take care of. you know Yeah, I know. I wasn't going go that far. But I actually didn't know where I was going with that.
00:35:30
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like I said, this... Linguistics is such a broad, broad topic. But, I'm glad that we at least scratched the surface on it.
00:35:44
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It's very intricate and complex. of Jersey. When people, like, and I know we do this on this network. We've done it a few times. I know I do. when We make up words.
00:35:57
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Like, that is part of linguistics. That's part of, like, the evolution of our lexicon. Like it's okay to do that. It's fun. Like this is why i joke and say words are fun because they are, like they're not, they're not rigid.
00:36:12
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Is there some rules you kind of have to like, the only rules you really have to like conscript to are the ones that allow us to be able to share communication.
Evolution and Creation of Language
00:36:26
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Cause you don't want to like,
00:36:27
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totally make your i mean you could you could totally make your own language and totally isolate your yourself from everybody else from ever understanding you and only using that language but you really want to.
00:36:39
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brittinary. sna Can I bring up one more thing? but embrace You brought that up. um The computation...
00:36:53
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The computation... Whatever. Computationally. Go ahead. Competentious, whatever. Words are hard.
00:37:05
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Pig Latin is a good example of another language. As funny as that sounds...
00:37:12
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my pig latin is a good example of of a of a of of ah of another language as funny as that that sounds It is another
00:37:29
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language. Can somebody refresh my memory on how Pig Latin works? works is it It's not the same. but This is the way I learned it. You drop the first letter.
00:37:44
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You move the first letter to the end and you add an If it was Pig, it would be IgPay. like if it was p it would be ig pay Yes, yes. So, okay, that's that's the way i learned it. How are you doing? I don't know.
00:38:03
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I don't know. I'm not doing it the right way. My cousins and I did it a different way. don't know if she's being sarcastic or not.
00:38:13
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i don't know if she's being sarcastic or
00:38:18
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I'm serious. Wait, who? Her? Oh, you did it.
00:38:24
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Because I'm sitting here and I'm like, what are you talking about, Jersey? That is not what I heard Yeah, no, I did that like so bad. Oh, okay. oh here Whoa. Cheers. My tongue moves. That's what it is. yes But no the copy to to tail ah computational um computational fucking magic of fucking shit is interdisciplinary
00:38:58
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We can do it. Interdis... No, we can't. Combines computer science with... oh yeah Are you talking about typology?
00:39:13
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Kind of. It's the natural language process. The NLP shit. I just can't run my to read my own language. Oh, natural. Intradisciplinary. Intradisciplinary.
00:39:27
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field you're going you're going into like the sub sub categories aren't you we're do that let's not do that let's let's stick no let's stick like for tonight let's stick with the main ones like we'll like syntax and morphology semantics and chromatics that was interesting it is it is it's just it's anyways i don't even know what you're talking about
00:39:58
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so Don't do that. We going in and deep, folks? Yeah, Jersey. You're not wrong. Tell us something else. Misfits and Maven.
00:40:10
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Not the greatest Pinot Noir. Oh, my Lanta. Oh, my Lanta. I'm going in deep.
00:40:22
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What's your favorite of color?
00:40:26
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That's very... Right now,
00:40:32
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Thanks, Addy. Okay. What's your favorite three bands right now? Because it changes for me every day. Right now, I actually, so I don't like going bands, but just musical acts. like yeah i've been I've been listening to Echo lately because somebody turned me on to them.
00:40:52
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Amigo the Devil, I've been kind of going back into that lately. And then Cottonmouth Kings. Cottonmouth Kings is just always right there in the back. Cottonmouth motherfucking Kings. Yeah, boy. I'm a very eclectic fucking music listener.
00:41:04
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Well, you have to be, especially when you're choosing music on an island for a day. Well, shit, if you look at music in itself, like each genre has its own sort of linguistics, its own sort of words, especially hip hop.
00:41:20
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Yeah, ah here well, the thing with that video that you sent me with the, like, vibrations of people hearing and, like, the languages and hypography and shit like that.
00:41:36
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I don't know how much longer I can talk about this shit. You want to take a break? Yeah, I got a pedal. I got to be so mad. All right, guys.
00:41:48
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We're going to take a quick... quick break and we'll be back. Let's go with, uh, what is this? I'm trying to find something. I, I, it's been a while since I've been in the studio. Here we go.
00:42:32
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I'm blowing the smoke
00:43:13
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Oh, dear darling, we'll find you still soaring in from the old growth trees. Looking like Spanish moss in the good old Southern breeze.
00:44:35
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You don't want to honey
00:45:05
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Oh, dear darling, you'll find yourself swinging from the open-growth trees Looking like Spanish knots in the good old Southern breeze
00:45:37
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Oh, you're nothing but scum and your planet woke up wild and eight sticks, oh, you're gonna be done You put up a fight, you raised the trump of your life
00:46:14
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I had something had some I was going to say. That was Wearing Gator by Callie and the Boone Rally.
00:46:26
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I think saw you dance in the background. I know I was dancing a in the background. love that song. That song is so good. It is. i was jamming for sure.
00:46:41
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Linguistics. That's what we're talking about. my. Why did we do this? like apparently Apparently, you had a a wild hair up your ass. You're like, let's talk linguistics. and i'm like um so I find that very interesting, especially with like when i worked with that guy.
00:47:04
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at a place that I will not say. yeah good um he was in the Air Force and he was very deep into the linguistic stuff. and Later on in his career, like years, years later, had to like take a lie detector test.
00:47:26
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And come to find out, like, he had weed in the system. And so, like, they gave him an, what is it?
00:47:37
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Discharge? Honorable? Yeah, just honorable discharge. Oh, that's good. He got an honorable. Yeah, he got an honorable at least. But, yeah, like, he spoke Farsi and all that stuff like that.
00:47:50
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Like, it was crazy. Would... would would you think he'd be up for coming up on an episode and talk talking um linguistics i like I would like to have an actual because here's the
Linguistics in Technology
00:48:02
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thing i maybe i haven't talked in years but maybe Brady and I are definitely not experts in linguistics I shit but but I think it's a subject that people should be more aware of um It's an understanding lingu- or having a familiarization meization of linguistics.
00:48:24
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Yeah. It just grows your brain. Just like having an understanding of I mean, it helps me when my cunt-ass fucking dad's wife speaks Spanish.
00:48:38
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And she doesn't understand. She doesn't know that I know Spanish. I'll say this live. They're not watching this. i don't give fuck.
00:48:50
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So there are โ There are pluses to knowing. I going to say there's tools. There's tools out there. Okay, and this is this is something linguistics is actually โ there is a branch of linguistics that overlaps with technology, AI, computers, and all that when it comes to programming, instructing all these technology things, what to do, and all that shit.
00:49:16
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There's a Bluetooth device out there. can hook up to your phone and shit and it'd be like a translator. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it took a somebody in linguistics and in in an education in linguistics and computers to to bring something like that. To make So linguistics is like one of those disciplines that can be applied in different fields.
00:49:40
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I think it's very important. That's true. that's true It could be applied in a lot of different things for sure. Psychology. We brought up philosophy.
00:49:52
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Technology is another one. um Business. When you're like, when you're in the business world and you're doing business negotiations, you're talking to like people in other countries and stuff and other business owners. owners is If they're from different parts of the world and country and their dialects different, their words mean different.
00:50:11
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So you're probably as a good business person is going to learn a little bit. about the language that you're dealing with. So you understand better. because that' you know So you would have probably somebody on the payroll that understands linguistics or you know business slash linguistics. Like, it's just... yeah Like I was saying with the dialect earlier, like Spanish, there's many different types of whatever shits, dialects.
00:50:44
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the i have I have my own... and It's been pointed out to me by people smarter than me that I have my... I specifically have my own dialect.
00:50:56
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like It's not something you can like, oh, you're from this part of the world. No, I'm just like, where are you from? like yeah I mean, people know I'm a Kentucky one. You got the Blazonary.
00:51:07
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No, just got my own fucking... Yeah, the Blazonary. No, i just... It's my own dialect. Like, Well, because oh you were also an army brat or whatever. Because our language our language is, although it's natural for us to develop a language, the language we end up speaking is, of course, nurtured by our peers, families, and all that shit, um and where you're from. And because I was an army brat, I moved around a lot.
00:51:40
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I had a lot of interaction with people all over the country. A lot of army brats or a lot of military brats have very unspecific dialects.
00:51:50
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Best way I can put it. Makes sense. You know what it is. I just made up my own because I'm fucking weird. all that Best way to do it.
00:52:05
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Stay weird, folks. Stay weird.
00:52:09
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I mean, I have traveled. Don't get me wrong. I have been around the world. I've seen some things and I know some things. sort of. But yeah. Not like this bro. yeah Look at Robert Platinum spelling it right. Let's go. dude?
00:52:33
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He spelled it right. That makes me so happy. You have no idea.
00:52:40
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All you bitches be fucking spelling it wrong.
00:52:45
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Sometimes I'll spell it wrong just to be a dick. I know. Actually, every time I type it out, I double check. I have friends. I have i have another friend. that Her name is Brittany.
00:52:57
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I haven't talked to her in a long time. She's Oregon. I know this has nothing to do with linguistics. I jumped on IG today. and A friend of mine in Oregon, she's been kind of like kind of like absent of social media.
00:53:11
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I pop on IG. It's like, she's in a like She broke her back on a trampoline. I'm like, what the fuck? Oh, dang. Damn. That sucks.
00:53:22
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I love trampolines. Don't break your back on I should have put it on you. You didn't use the cheat? You didn't use the child safety devices? but and now I guess we're done talking about linguistics.
00:53:36
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Yeah. I think we should have started it. It's okay. I'm just glad to get the idea out there so people can go look at it up themselves. because i did I did have more. but um but What do you have?
00:53:51
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Let's do it. I don't know. This is just banter anyways. Whatever.
00:53:59
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so The most one was like dialect. That was the biggest one that I have because of my dad's cunt ass wife. Because her Spanish is different from other Spanish. Sorry.
00:54:13
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I don't mean to say that. and I don't give shit, actually. um Yeah. So like her... Like, so I don't understand all Spanish when people are speaking, but like, I understand hers more because I've gotten to like to learn it, like really learn it.
00:54:32
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Specifically from her? Yeah. Well, no, her and her family. Well, yeah. From Ecuador. Yeah. Yeah. they're But their Spanish is goingnna be different from Spanish from, let's say... From, like, Mexico or... Or even Spain itself. Costa Rica or whatever, yeah. Like, look at look at like look at ah look at English.
00:54:54
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Look at English from its origin over in Europe. And you look at English there and English here in America and just how diverse English itself is within just America.
00:55:07
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And you go England and it's different accents. Irish, England, even like... Or Puerto Rico. Even, yeah. ah Spanish is, yeah.
00:55:19
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It's insane, like, just how diverse it is. And like, people try to get... Oh, never mind. I'm not going to bring that up. No, no, you're fine you're fine. Like, somebody from Tequila, Mexico compared to Mexico City, Mexico...
00:55:36
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like, they're going to be able to talk to, like, their dialect's different. They have, like, different Spanish, but they're more closely language-related to have a better communication experience, let's say, than I somebody from Mexico City.
00:55:56
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But on the flip side, I can have a conversation with somebody from down the road that speaks fucking hillbilly, and your headphone just fell out again. I swear to God, your ear is spitting it out. I did. It's like your ear just like, fuck you.
00:56:13
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There goes the other one.
00:56:24
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They suck big bit holes, butthole, bit hole, whatever.
00:56:33
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Robert, there's a guy on YouTube that will listen to the oldest recorded audios that he can find. And there's one from like the late.
00:56:46
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It was a woman. was like great god it know was it was a woman. It was recorded in the early nineteen hundreds but she recorded it when she was in her 90s and she was explaining her experience to the eighteen It's amazing.
00:57:04
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And yeah, her dialect, the way she talked was completely different than what we would talk now. I think this woman's literally from the same area I'm from. like It's that fucking just different.
00:57:18
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You're absolutely right, Robert. It is different.
Personal Linguistic Heritage
00:57:23
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I remember reading like my grandpa's old diary or journal. It was so freaking interesting. Just like The southern accent. although i could just I could hear the southern accent in his writing.
00:57:38
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It's like reading books. you read Mark Twain, you hear that southern twain. you read mark twain <unk>in you hear that southernwain Right.
00:57:50
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That Alabama was coming in.
00:57:57
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I got you. Yeah. ah It's still interesting, though, and I really think, i think my dad threw all that shit away, and I'm... What, your Huckleberry fan? Mm-hmm.
00:58:12
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yeah all my grandpa's stuff because he was a bit of a hoarder but he had a lot of like notes and stuff and like like it's like you could hear his accent and just stuff and i loved loved all that i ah i don't talk to old people like i used to probably still need to i'm i'm a bit stubborn i think i i know it all and i don't but uh i remember talking to my great-grandmother When I was young, and it was not a pleasant experience.
00:58:46
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Yeah, no, they're not all nice. No, no. But I feel like that's part of the charm, you know? e No, not Grandma going. No. Yeah, you can't handle it.
00:59:03
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I can handle it. I can't. Sometimes will just be like, nah, I'm just kidding. get them Get that fucking powder out.
00:59:14
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Let's go. It's like you keep talking to him, I'm going fucking throw a fucking stick in the spokes of your wheelchair. i Dude, I felt so bad the other day. i didn't really do that to anyone, but I believe in Walmart.
00:59:29
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And this old guy, luckily his wife was there and he had help. he had help But i'm i walk I'm trying to leave the store, and this old man is in one of those Walmart electric shopping carts.
00:59:44
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the why And it battled right there at the door. felt so heartbroken. I was like, oh, my God. feel good. Some people need those things.
00:59:57
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some people deserve some people need those things I didn't mean to say it he was a nice guy, he wasn't being a dick or anything um I didn't If you know what I'm saying, I didn't mean to say it
01:00:19
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want to thank all y'all for being here too you
01:00:26
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My family used to say that she got her meanness from her Native American side.
01:00:33
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Well, understandable, then. I'd be mean, too. Fuck yeah, me too.
01:00:42
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I don't think meanness comes from any specific ethnicity. I think it's just a human trait. And honestly, the most nicest people I've ever met have been Native American, so I don't see that.
01:00:59
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Robert Plattner. Woo woo.
01:01:05
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Scoot, scoot. Scoot, scoot. My butt is just a little bit. little white better next time.
01:01:17
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You know that's a joke. Yeah, it is a joke. i I am very clean.
01:01:25
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It may not look like it, but
01:01:28
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I don't give fuck. Honestly, what am I saying anymore? I don't know. it just went off the rails.
01:01:38
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Languages. English is hard. Oh, shit. We we made it an hour. We're good. Oh, wait. Hold on.
01:01:55
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did we go this whole time without fucking saying that? I don't understand why none of these banners are hashtags. Michael, you fucking goddamn Gen Xer.
01:02:07
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Yeah, you fucking bitch. You suck ass. you Gen Xers and hashtags are like oil and water. I fucking suck at Little ass fucking bitch. can You can go sniff a butt.
01:02:24
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I get to wear all my expensive colognes. Man. That's not... God damn it. No. he's says fuck He's just fucking with us at that point. It's a little linguistics game right there. A little rhetorical joke.
01:02:43
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who You got her good, though. If you don't... oh ah
01:02:56
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He's the one that fucks with me the most.
01:03:04
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I can hear for it, bro. she knows him personally. It's where, bitch.
01:03:17
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but He knows it is. He knows it is. That's the joke. I know, but I don't like it.
01:03:26
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Why does it make me cringe so much? Because you you are too hung up on the semantics and not the pragmatics. Okay. to Let's go back to linguistics.
01:03:41
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Exactly. What's wrong with wearing cologne? love it.
01:03:49
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ah love it i love it. I love it because i mean it it's it's the reaction from Brittany that I absolutely fucking treasure at the moment. yeah Right now, I just want to say, no soup for you.
01:04:05
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o well i can make my own soup. little la you It's the soup, Nazi. I know, I know, I know, I know. it Fucking grammar, Nazi.
01:04:17
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I know. What is wrong with me? You syntax lore. I guess so. It's something in my skull. That's the linguistics joke right there.
01:04:34
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We've been talking about it all night. yes All night. Well, actually, I don't know.
01:04:45
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What about Tourette's? That's a no that's not linguistics. Do you want to talk about Tourette's? One night. We can do it another time. But it's been fucking with me. If you couldn't tell i am When I was stationed in South... It's actually my last duty station. It in South Dakota.
01:05:03
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Ellsworth Air Force Base.
01:05:08
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I was... I told you all before. My IQ is lower than my credit score. And even that's too good. I love that. like That's funny.
01:05:20
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That's a good one. I'll fuck with people and be like, oh, fridge temp IQ, huh? Oh, so.
01:05:31
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Yes, I love that. I was stationed with this cat. and This cat. His name is good at the moment. But he was he was he was a peer. In other words, he was a staff sergeant just like I was at the time.
01:05:46
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yeah He wasn't a staff sergeant as long, but he had he he was he had it rough. um He had Tourette's. His wasn't vocal. His was physical tics.
01:06:00
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um And I and him and I had a discussion one time and he kind of like laid it out on me that That, the anxiety of that and the disrespect he would get from his airmen because they saw that as quote unquote weakness piled on to his um
01:06:29
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problem of being a functioning person. Yeah, because once you start thinking about your text, and now that I'm thinking about it, honestly... Yeah, that's yeah I'm sorry. If you want me stop, I'll stop.
01:06:43
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No, it's fine. and okay I don't mind talking about it because people need to fucking know about it. Yeah, anyway, it opened my eyes to what he was going through. There was moments i I had to explain to even my ear, and was like, respect this fucking rancor. Get the fuck out. I was just like...
01:07:02
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It's just you can't do that to someone. It just sucks because my Tourette's was part of the reason why i couldn't join the military. His... I don't know. See, his wasn't his... I don't know. I haven't talked to this guy in a long... I don't know his security or the gra the different... I don't know about the whole Tourette's thing.
01:07:27
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And I'm sure like the rules have changed over the years. Well, this, yeah, I mean, i don't know. This was, maybe his type of trust wasn't that, or he got it while he was in. i don't know the whole story. I just knew it was something that was a hurdle.
01:07:41
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It was an obstacle in his Air Force career. And I thought it was, ah I thought it was, it was already an obstacle because he had to deal with it. I think it was more of an obstacle that he couldn't deal with because of other stupid people that should be dicks about Well sometimes it can be other people Being tics about it Depending on it But they don't understand it they use it as Yeah That's why I try not to tell people about it if Because Mine isn't as noticeable sometimes Because I say Fuck ass shit balls All the time anyways And those are like some of my tic words So it's like
01:08:25
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Maybe I say those words just because they are my tech world, too. i don't i don't know how I don't know how the psychology of Tourette's works.
Tourette's Syndrome and Communication
01:08:35
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And that is actually a conversation I would like to have with you, but offline, offline.
01:08:40
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Yeah, yeah, okay. but um yeah But then, like, people, I...
01:08:47
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end up telling them about it. then they're like, oh, okay, I see it now. And I'm like, oh, fuck. They think it's just who I am
01:09:01
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Wait, what? I was reading this. That's a funny one. Why is sergeant spelled like that and instead of sergeant? I'm not going lie. Sergeant is one of those words there for a little bit of my life. I had always double check make sure I was spelling right.
01:09:14
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So there for a little bit, I would just write Sarge. S-A-R-G-E because that's acceptable. What's that? My brain hurts.
01:09:28
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Your brain hurts.
01:09:32
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I think it is time to go ahead and close this out tonight. What do you think? I'm done. You're done. Stick a fork in her. She's done. I want to thank Brittany for bringing this topic up tonight. This was a, this is a challenging one to talk about.
01:09:47
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ah I don't, I personally, and this is from my perspective, has nothing to do with anybody but me. I don't feel like I did the topic just enough because I'm not nowhere expert enough on linguistics.
01:10:02
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I only know the people to go to. Yeah. I'm sorry to bring up something so smart. No, no, no, no. I'm glad you did. We're two potheads. No, I think just exposing people to to ideas is is a good thing in its own.
01:10:21
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As long as we declare that we don't know what we're talking about. Right.
Encouragement to Explore Linguistics
01:10:27
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But exchanging ideas of it is definitely a good thing.
01:10:34
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I agree. Thank you. Brittany, do you have anything else you'd like to tell the audience before we get Get the fuck out of here. Bye, Felicia. Bye, Felicia.
01:10:45
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Speaking of Felicia. No, just kidding. That's a good stoner flick. Catch us tomorrow night on Nonsense and Chill when Michael and I and Brittany is going to join us.
01:10:56
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We're going talking stoner flicks. and And then we're going do a little mini deep dive in today's 20 years speech. If you guys could like, share, subscribe, and be there, you can see this arm wave thing.
01:11:12
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Yeah. Mandy, I like that education is always a good thing, even if it comes from an odd places. Oh, I love that. oh I fucking love that. think it's a fucking star. Thank you. I dig that.
01:11:25
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right know yeah And there's nothing more odd than Britney. In a pretty way.
01:11:35
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I want to sell everybody. Thank you. Good night. We'll see you next time.
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