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PGW 45: TUBI OR NOT TUBI (TUBI PART TWO)
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The boys are back trolling the depths of the Tubi library
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Waco Adventures & Reflections
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Our friend RJ, also a listener of this podcast, the last time he was in Waco, he begged me to go to Scruff's.
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Hell no.
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Before that, we were at Buckle, not the store in the mall, but the bar.
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Already bad enough.
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Yeah.
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And he already in a bad place.
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And he said, dude, I don't know why you're why you're not here like three nights a week.
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And I had to tell him I'm older than everyone in here except one of the three bartenders.
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Yeah.
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I want to go home, put on reading glasses and read about fucking trains.
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And all these people just want to do is like pop perks.
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So I'm turning 30 this month and I like had a realization of my old man habits because Saturday morning, like my Saturday morning was I woke up.
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I went for a walk.
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I turned on MSNBC and did the New York Times crossword.
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Yo, that's sick.
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But it was a fucking awesome morning.
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Yeah, that sounds amazing.
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Are you kidding me?
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The last time I went to Scruff's, and it might have been the only time I've ever been to Scruff's, I went with a couple friends, and there was nobody there because it was not like Baylor season.
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It was like in the summer.
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It was not Baylor season.
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And we walk in.
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There's barely anyone there, but there is a DJ on the dance floor.
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Oh, yeah.
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Bumpin'.
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He was playing like some weird shit that we didn't know.
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And so like one of the people went up to the bartender or the DJ was like, hey, can you play this song?
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Like, like we request a song and he's like, no, I have a set list going right now.
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And he came back to the table and we were like, so did you request a song?
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He goes, no, he has a set list going or something.
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I was like, dude, there's nobody on the fucking dance floor.
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You don't have a set list going.
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You're just like playing music for yourself.
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And he's probably playing each song front to back, right?
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Yeah.
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No, he's not even doing cool DJ shit.
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Yeah.
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Can I tell my two scraps experiences?
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I've only been twice.
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The first one, I don't think she'll mind me telling this story, was also in the summertime.
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And my best friend Addison, who Joe knows, Addison Petillo.
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Yeah.
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She was in G Troop.
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I don't think y'all ever overlap, but you...
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Yeah, I know of her.
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Yes.
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So my best friend, she we went together.
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We were both like in Waco for the summer and she was living at my house, like in one of my roommates rooms while they were out because she had given up release.
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This is all backstory.
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Basically, there's nobody there and she got roofied.
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Oh my God.
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With like nobody there.
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Like had like three sips of like a vodka soda and was like falling over.
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Like it was really bad.
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So I had to like walk her home.
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What a good advertisement for Scruffy Murphy.
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I know, right?
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God bless the place.
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But after...
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that experience I only went one other time and it was senior week like the week so I graduated a semester late the week that all my friends were graduating who were my age um like we went the night before graduation and I already felt really old being there I was like it's too loud can we go outside like can I smoke a cigarette in peace please and uh
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I watched a 65-year-old shirtless man, a white man, sing Purple Rain.
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And I was like, no, I'm out of here.
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And I just left.
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Could have been worse.
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Me and my friend walked to the dancing bear and, you know, pretended we were adults.
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The dancing bear.
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But, yeah.
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Ryan McNamara and I cried in the dancing bear one time.
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That's beautiful.
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Hey, I've had some deep-ass conversation with the Dancing Bears, so I don't blame you.
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Yeah.
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Speaking of Dancing Bears.
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Nice!
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Great segue!
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Look at you.
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The internet's only... I'm sorry, the internet's only and foremost to be cast.
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That's right.
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I am your host, Red Rankin, and I am joined by my three beautiful, strong sons.
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The most beautiful of them all, Zach.
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We gotta give it up.
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We gotta give it up for the man.
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You're so beautiful.
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Gotta let my hair down for that one.
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Oh yeah, baby.
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Oh man, he just pulled out the ponytail and I got a shove.
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He took his glasses off and let his hair down and we all got boners.
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Yeah.
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My cunning, wise, and beautiful, strong son, Joe.
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I am very cunning.
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People have said that about me before.
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I'm always cunning around.
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What's Joe doing?
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Oh, he's over there cunning.
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I don't know if these people are using this word right.
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I don't think so.
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And my bravest and strongest son, Austin.
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He's so brave.
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I try.
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Strong, I don't know.
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Braver than the damn troops, if I do say so myself.
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Hey, you.
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I'm coming out swinging.
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Fuck the troops.
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Your arm's looking like the new New York Yankees barrel bats.
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Yeah, there you go.
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The torpedo bats.
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Fuck the torpedo bats.
Podcast Introductions & Baseball Discussions
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It's kind of a wild development.
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Are the Dodgers and the Braves playing right now?
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Because I think this would be really excellent podcasting.
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Folks, as of this recording, the Atlanta Braves have still not won a baseball game in the big 2025.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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We have a day off.
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We have our home opener being 0-7 against the Miami Marlins.
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Oh, damn.
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That sounds bad.
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I mean, the Astros are 3-3.
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We beat the Twins today, but the Giants fucking crushed us, and then we got the Padres next week.
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The Giants might be really good, and the Padres are good, man.
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Padres are good.
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Yeah, they're 7-0, I think.
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Padre means father in Spanish.
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Yeah, you know why they're called that?
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No.
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Because of religious organizations within San Diego, and like...
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what's the word like not monasteries um like missions oh yeah and the padres of these missions and they have these like friars come like that's one of the best parts of baseball is how much actual friars fuck with the padres oh yeah dude every time i hear the word san diego i literally cannot keep my brain from going san diego
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I believe in Spanish it means a whale's vagina.
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It is true.
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It is true.
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This week we are back with another 2B episode.
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2B part 2B.
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2B continued.
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2B or not.
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It's forever 2B continued with us.
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At this point we definitely need some of that 2B Super Bowl money.
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Let's get those skin cowboy hats going on.
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Oh, the way this one is set up is a little bit different.
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We didn't draft films.
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We're not going to talk about 12 movies this week.
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We're going to talk about maybe a mistake that we can.
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That was that was one that you look at the runtime afterward.
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You're like, it was good podcasting, but
Movie Selection & 'Lawnmower Man' Analysis
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good God.
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Yeah.
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Did we talk for a long time?
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Why did we do that for ourselves or to others?
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So the way that we set this one up is we did a random number generator to decide who would handle assigning a movie to another person.
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Specifically, we did that just so that we could have a little bit of fun with it.
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And also overlap, yeah.
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Yeah, and so that there was some overlap.
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So if you assigned a film, you had to watch that film.
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So we kind of got to go through when everyone's going to talk about two movies and either pitch or condemn those films to their fellow podcasters and
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I think it's important to note, too, I think this is true, but every single movie was a first watch for all of us.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Pat just jumped out from behind my computer and got caught on the mic cord.
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Oh, Jesus.
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So fucking stupid.
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This is podcasting, guys.
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This is podcasting.
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The funny thing about all of this is that there's only four movies, and three of them are horror movies, and the other one has a name straight out of a spaghetti western.
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Yep.
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Which is basically the bulk of what's on Tubi.
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Yeah.
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Or like movies that are like The Grinch That Stole Bitches, which one of us should have watched.
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Yeah.
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I bet we all will next week catch us talking about The Grinch That Stole Bitches.
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The films are as followed.
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Burnt Offerings from 1976, which I selected for Zach and myself to watch.
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The Ballad of Gregorio Cortez from 1982.
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Zach and Austin watched that one together.
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Zach assigned it.
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A Blade in the Dark, which is a Giallo film from 1983.
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Austin picked that for himself and Joseph.
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And Joe and I, we went to cyberspace, baby.
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And we watched 1992's Lawnmower Man.
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Which I'm really excited to talk about One of The fucking Waco dude David Koresh's favorite movies Whoa Wait what Alright we're just gonna go We're just gonna go with chronological order We have to start with Lawnmower man Let's back up First of all the Waco guys Is that in reference to his placement Or the show Waco
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No, like I'm saying David Koresh, the cult leader, loved the movie Lawnmower Man.
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I understand.
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I'm asking I'm asking about the identification of him as the Waco guy.
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Like, you know, like the Waco cult.
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Every red blooded American knows that shit actually went down in Texas.
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You're casting aspersions that are not well earned.
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Yeah, but the show is called Waco.
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That was my question.
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You weren't fucking listening to my question.
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I'm listening to reference to the television show or his location while on this planet.
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When I feel a hint of criticism in a question, my brain shuts down and I can't.
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I wasn't criticizing.
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I wanted to get to the heart of something.
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And you wouldn't run with it.
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You wanted to get back to the heart of worship, dude.
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Please!
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Take us back to the heart of worship.
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The Internet's only Christian podcast.
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I will say that I heard this information secondhand with no primary sources for my good buddy Ian.
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That's for me.
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Yeah, that lawnmower man was a David Koresh favorite and that he did make people in the inner circle watch the movie lawnmower man.
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I want receipts on this.
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I love it.
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Hold on.
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I'm going to look it up.
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No, it's 100% true.
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You don't need to look it up.
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No, let's just, let's just, let's just, yeah, we're blanket stating that it's true.
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Sorry.
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I was sorry to keep us off.
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Paddington Gone Wild is a no sources podcast.
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It either came to us in a dream or is given to us in a prophecy.
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Yeah.
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And you know what?
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Those are facts and facts don't care about your feelings.
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Yeah.
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You know?
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It's so true, brother.
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You fucking libs.
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Go vote that one away.
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Oh, God.
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So anyways, Horror Man is the story of a guy who basically decides that he can cure autism with VR headsets.
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Essentially.
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Essentially.
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Is this a Stephen King thing?
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No.
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Okay, it is not really.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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There are very, very, from what I understand, and a lot of IMDb trivia reading, there are one or two plot lines that are vaguely similar to the Stephen King short story.
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Okay.
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And it takes the title.
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And it just takes the title.
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There was, in fact, a lengthy lawsuit.
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I believe $100,000 paid out to Mr. King, which is hilarious because this is the early 1990s.
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He like farts and $100,000 comes out.
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Well, that also probably paid for about four days worth of cocaine.
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I was going to say, was this during the coke years?
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I think he got clean early 90s, so it's around that time.
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Okay, so he's probably pissed off from the withdrawals.
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Yeah, just really angry.
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And then there's that when he got hit by the bus and he was on pain meds forever and he wrote Dreamcatcher.
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He says he doesn't remember writing it.
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It's the first one since he got sober.
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There's an incredible Family Guy bit where Brian talks about how he hit a writer in Maine.
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And then it does the cutaway and Brian hits this guy and he gets out and he goes, oh my god, are you Stephen King?
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And he goes, no, I'm Dean Kuntz.
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And then he's back in the truck and runs him over again.
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That's a good bit.
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When Family Guy hits, it hits.
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Yeah, it does.
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When it hits, it hits.
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So Lawnmower Man is essentially that.
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Pierce Brosnan plays a scientist.
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With the cuntiest little earring you've ever seen.
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The cuntiest little earring.
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He is chain-smoking Marlboros throughout this movie.
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Is it cuntier than Kyle MacLachlan's earring in Blue Velvet?
Critiques of 'Blade in the Dark' and Other Films
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Oh, that is... I would say, okay, listen, Kyle McLaughlin is prettier, but Pierce Brosnan in this movie is serving.
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Very cut.
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I respect that.
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Okay, Joe, I'm glad we're on the same page with that one.
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Yeah.
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So he works for some giant weird corporation that's very shady.
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Yeah, just sort of like a 90s unnamed corporation.
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Like just the kind of the ones that were evil generally, not really having a plan or anything, but they were just doing evil experiments.
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Pretty much.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So what they have to do is he has been running and conducting these experiments of monkeys of which he gives them an injection.
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And then they wear these VR headsets for like four to five hours at a time.
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And they saw it make amazing leaps and bounds.
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And I will say that the injections, Mr. Rogan, I have to apologize.
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You were right.
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The injections are nootropics.
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They do cure alpha brain shit.
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And they make monkeys very smart.
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Okay.
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There's a monkey that uses an AR-15 in the first four minutes of this movie.
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It's fucking sick.
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It's not as cool as the Planet of the Apes one, but the technology wasn't there.
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If they remade this movie today, it would not get made, but also it would look cooler.
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Would it not get made because of the drugs and, you know, the... No, I think because the plot of the movie is that Pierce Brosnan is looking out his window and the guy who mows his lawn is clearly mentally handicapped and he's like...
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Perhaps I could fix him with my drugs and VR headset.
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And turns out, he does.
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He does.
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Yeah.
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He gives him these drugs and these VR headsets, and motherfucker, he has become like God.
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So it's like...
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Does he then become like evil or something?
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It's complicated.
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Okay.
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So he does become God in the cyberverse.
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Yeah.
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He becomes, as he puts it, cyber Christ.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Thank you, Joe.
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Who plays that guy?
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Some guy.
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It's just like a no-name.
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It's very sexy.
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I'm on it.
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It is... One of the craziest things about this movie that I love so much is it has... It is trying to be everything all at once.
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It's trying to be, like... Not everywhere, though?
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Not everywhere, just everything.
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It's set in one town.
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It is Jeff Fahey.
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Yeah.
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He was pretty good in the movie.
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I know that, man.
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But basically... He was on Lost, okay.
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He plays...
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This guy, and he lives in a hut behind a church.
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And the father of the church basically beats him.
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And also molests him.
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And also molests him.
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Damn.
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And he's doing it to get him to be closer to Christ or something.
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And so he...
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develops this like weird complex with Christianity.
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Uh, and so then when he becomes cyber Christ, it comes full circle.
00:16:03
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Um, this movie, I will say needed to either be 20 minutes shorter or three hours longer.
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Hmm.
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Hmm.
00:16:12
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I will say I, I immensely enjoyed it, but it also was not good.
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I did too.
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I'll be honest, I think it's genuinely good.
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Oh, okay.
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I think the core tenet of the plot being that you can fix autism through vaccines and VR.
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is, you know, hilarious.
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Okay, I'll say that the script is bad, but the actual filmmaking here is pretty nice.
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Like, there's some really interesting effects for the 90s that looked pretty groundbreaking.
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Also, some that looked genuinely garbage.
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But also, I will say that the garbage CGI kind of makes the aesthetic of the movie work.
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I agree.
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It sort of looks like Nubby's Number Factory a little bit.
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Dude, I was literally about to say it's Nubby's Coded.
00:17:02
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I think the question we're all wondering though is what does Jerry Seinfeld think about Lawnmower Man?
00:17:10
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I like it when he had the brain of a 12-year-old!
00:17:15
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But then he grows up and gets real smart That's not Jerry What the fuck am I doing?
00:17:19
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The first one was good It's real smart What are you wicked smart?
00:17:27
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Yeah he shows up to the science lab And like holds up a page of the bible And is like how do you like them apples?
00:17:34
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Well I got a number
00:17:36
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How do you like them?
00:17:37
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Well, I got baptized.
00:17:39
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That's how I get in.
00:17:40
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If I want to do a Boston accent, I go, well, I got a number.
00:17:43
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I got a number.
00:17:44
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I got a number.
00:17:45
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Who's got we taking?
00:17:46
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Who's got we taking?
00:17:47
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Nomi's Nomba Factory.
00:17:49
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Nomi's Nomba Factory.
00:17:52
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I got to go down to the factory.
00:17:53
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Nubby's number factory.
00:17:55
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I got to make some noise in big numbers.
00:17:56
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You went Midwest.
00:17:57
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That was Chicago.
00:17:58
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That's what I default to when I'm just wanting to do a voice.
00:18:01
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Sorry.
00:18:02
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The crazy thing about it is when we talk about becoming CyberChrist...
00:18:08
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No, it's okay.
00:18:09
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I love just a little bit in the bathroom.
00:18:11
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I'm just working on it.
00:18:13
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It sounds like it's a good thing.
00:18:15
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That felt like Julianne Moore on 30 Rock.
00:18:18
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It was like, I gotta go down to the factory, Jack.
00:18:22
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That's pretty good.
00:18:23
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That fucking insane Boston accent she does.
00:18:25
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It's great.
00:18:26
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I love Julianne more so much.
00:18:29
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She's very nice in the Jurassic Park sequel.
00:18:32
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Yeah, she is.
00:18:33
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She's very nice.
00:18:35
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We made the joke about Jerry Seinfeld and about this young man being 12.
00:18:40
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But as he is getting smarter, he also becomes the object of affection for a very rich widow in the town.
00:18:49
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Yeah.
00:18:50
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She is definitely for the first like eight times she has sex with this young man like he is a victim.
00:18:56
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Yeah.
00:18:56
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No, really.
00:18:57
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She's definitely sexually assaulting him for the first few times.
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And then and then he kind of.
00:19:04
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I'm going to find a nicer way to say it, but yes, so he does take her to the facility and puts her in the VR headset that's like making his brain better, and he injects her with some nootropics, but then he pushes the simulation too far, and then she becomes mentally handicapped.
00:19:21
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Oh.
00:19:22
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Yeah.
00:19:23
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I thought you were going to say that when he became Cybercrust, he got really good at munching box.
00:19:27
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No, he is good at sex.
00:19:29
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That's like a tenet of the movies that she's like, wow, you're so good.
00:19:31
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He's really good at sex.
00:19:33
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Like, unbelievably good at sex.
00:19:35
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Before or after?
00:19:36
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Both.
00:19:37
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Both.
00:19:37
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It's like that bit in The Good Place where, what is her name?
00:19:43
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One of the characters who has sex with Jason, and she's like, he's so good at sex because he has nothing going on in his head.
00:19:50
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Yeah, he has no hang-ups.
00:19:52
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He's just a vessel.
00:19:53
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And she was like, it makes him amazing.
00:19:55
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And that's what I think both.
00:19:57
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Young lawnmower man before he becomes Cyber
Horror Film Comparisons & Potential Remakes
00:20:00
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Christ.
00:20:01
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But yeah, he becomes Cyber Christ.
00:20:04
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He lights the priest on fire with his mind.
00:20:07
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With Cyber Fire, by the way, I will say.
00:20:08
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With Cyber Fire, yes, I forgot about that being Cyber Fire.
00:20:11
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And then he telekinetically chases...
00:20:17
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Basically, he kills everyone in town that bullied him or that bullied someone that he cared about.
00:20:22
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Cool.
00:20:23
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And so he telekinetically controls a lawnmower and makes it chase a dude down, and he kills a dude with the lawnmower flying at him.
00:20:32
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Sick.
00:20:33
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No, it's pretty cool.
00:20:34
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I'm going to be completely honest.
00:20:36
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I had no clue that Lawnmower Man would be about like pseudo Catholic church sex abuse allegories and flowers for Aldrin on.
00:20:43
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Yeah.
00:20:44
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So that's the main problem with the script is that it is like eight things.
00:20:49
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There's a whole narrative with the family next door to Pierce Brosnan's family where the dad is abusive to the wife and the son and they barely touch on it.
00:20:58
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It's just like a detail.
00:20:59
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This little scene will tell you everything that I think is wrong with the script in one motion.
00:21:05
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At the end of the movie, Pierce Brosnan is re-infiltrating the facility because Cyber Christ has locked it down with his mind.
00:21:13
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And he's in the computer.
00:21:14
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He's like trying to get out.
00:21:15
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As a Cyber Christ would do.
00:21:17
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Yeah.
00:21:17
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So he locks it down and he's got to get back in.
00:21:20
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Pierce Brosnan...
00:21:23
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Cyber Christ kills all the guards with a swarm of cyber bees.
00:21:28
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Yes.
00:21:29
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And Pierce Brosnan is going to sneak back in.
00:21:31
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He grabs an AK-47 from one of the guards.
00:21:34
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He grabs it.
00:21:36
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Goes inside the building with the gun out, like looking around like he's ready to use it.
00:21:42
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He then sets the gun down and never thinks about it again.
00:21:46
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Hmm.
00:21:47
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They just do an anti-Chekhov's gun because I think the writers forgot about it.
00:21:53
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Yeah, just got left.
00:21:55
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He walks past the hallway where he set the gun down and it's gone.
00:21:59
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Yeah, that just didn't make it.
00:22:03
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And then CyberChrist says that within a day he will inhabit every bit of technology on the planet Earth and he would make every phone ring at once.
00:22:14
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Yeah.
00:22:15
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And then he does.
00:22:16
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And you're like, okay.
00:22:18
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And then there is, if you're wondering, there is a sequel.
00:22:21
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Yes.
00:22:22
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Wow.
00:22:22
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That is also on Tubi.
00:22:24
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Oh, good to know.
00:22:25
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Which I don't think I'm going to be able to get through.
00:22:28
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I will do it.
00:22:30
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You can get through a lot of shit, Joe.
00:22:31
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Have some confidence in yourself.
00:22:33
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The shit that you watch, I'm like, you can get through anything.
00:22:35
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The film, the sequel is called Lawnmower Man 2 Beyond Cyberspace.
00:22:41
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Beautiful.
00:22:42
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Jeff Fahey is not returning, and neither did Pierce.
00:22:46
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:22:48
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It's like the second movie in the John Carpenter Vampires series, only the first of which is... There's a second movie in that series?
00:22:58
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Yeah.
00:22:59
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It's like Robert Patrick or something.
00:23:01
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It's like the From Dusk Till Dawn sequels, too.
00:23:03
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It's like, you're not going to get Clooney back.
00:23:05
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I really liked that first one.
00:23:07
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Metascore, 29.
00:23:09
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IMDb score, 2.6 out of 10.
00:23:11
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My rating?
00:23:12
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That's the second one.
00:23:13
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Two thumbs way up.
00:23:14
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Two thumbs away up for Joe.
00:23:16
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It is so fun.
00:23:17
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You literally cannot predict how much comes next.
00:23:22
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29% is not a good place to be.
00:23:23
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You want to tank that a little bit further down or bring it in?
00:23:27
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Yeah, it's a bad middle.
00:23:30
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I like a good 4%er on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:23:33
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My go-to rating for a movie that I know is going to be good is like 70% to 80% on Rotten Tomatoes.
00:23:41
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Whenever a movie is immediately 100%, I'm like, this is a mid-movie.
00:23:46
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I know that this movie is going to be mid.
00:23:47
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There's no controversy.
00:23:49
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Unless it's Top Gun Maverick.
00:23:51
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Well, yes.
00:23:52
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The exception that proves the rule.
00:23:53
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Unless it is a movie I like.
00:23:55
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Yeah, exactly.
00:23:56
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Unless... It's something that EWU advocates for.
Cultural Observations & Humor
00:24:00
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If the general consensus is that the movie that I like is good, then the general consensus is correct.
00:24:05
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If the general consensus with the movie that I like is that it's bad, it's wrong.
00:24:09
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Yeah, I hear that.
00:24:10
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Who's that Joe Priest today?
00:24:12
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Yeah, come on.
00:24:13
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He's cooking.
00:24:13
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He's on a soapbox.
00:24:14
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He cooks.
00:24:15
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And I said, unto the Lord.
00:24:18
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He sautรฉing and flambรฉing these bars.
00:24:21
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In the book of Rotten Tomatoes, a movie that hath 75% or higher, but less than 95% doth be a banger.
00:24:35
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Oh, my God.
00:24:36
Speaker
What's our next movie?
00:24:37
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What are we talking about next?
00:24:38
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You know, we started with Lawnmower, man.
00:24:40
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You guys are going to go... Yeah, let's go chronological.
00:24:41
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Okay.
00:24:42
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The next one will be A Blade in the Dark for you and Joseph, Austin.
00:24:47
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So my thoughts on picking this... First of all, my apologies.
00:24:53
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So let's just go out right and say that this movie was really bad.
00:24:57
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This movie sucks.
00:24:58
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Duck piss.
00:25:01
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I fell asleep.
00:25:03
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I fell asleep three different times.
00:25:05
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It's so bad.
00:25:07
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And I was like, okay, it's a, it's a job.
00:25:10
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Okay.
00:25:10
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It's a 1983 Jalo movie as Red set up top.
00:25:14
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Um,
00:25:15
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Sorry, I'm kind of lost now.
00:25:18
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And it's directed by Lamberto Bava, who's the son of Mario Bava, who directed Blood and Black Lace and a bunch of great movies.
00:25:24
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And also, Lamberto Bava directed a good movie, and it's called Demons.
00:25:28
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Yeah.
00:25:28
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That's a good movie.
00:25:29
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I haven't seen.
00:25:30
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So, you know, this guy comes from Pedigree, and I was like, okay.
00:25:34
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And I was like, you know, it's 80s, but, you know, so it's not like, I would prefer like the 60s, 70s, but I had heard it mentioned on an episode of The Big Picture.
00:25:43
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So I was like, okay, let's try this.
00:25:45
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And I turn it on and I'm immediately like, yo, kind of fuck this movie.
00:25:50
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So basically the setup is, it's about a film composer who's working on scoring a horror movie.
00:25:58
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And then he's like staying at this like amazing villa.
00:26:01
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And then basically everybody who comes and visits him starts dying.
00:26:05
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Yeah.
00:26:05
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Very violent.
00:26:06
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That pitch doesn't suck.
00:26:08
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No.
00:26:08
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The idea of the movie is incredible.
00:26:11
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The reason why it sucked so much is because it's all wasted potential.
00:26:14
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It's all, I completely agree.
00:26:17
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There's the performances, it's that like 80 shallow thing where all the actors are talking in different languages and they're just dubbing over them in Italian, which like fine, but it's already distracting.
00:26:26
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Cause like I'm reading subtitles and then I'm kind of looking up and seeing their mouths not be doing what it sounds like.
00:26:31
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And I'm like, okay.
00:26:32
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This is a convention I understand.
00:26:34
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It's just... It's like three layers of bad.
00:26:36
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It's bad.
00:26:36
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It's bad.
00:26:37
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And then the acting within that doesn't sell a goddamn thing, which, again, not that I have the highest expectations, but there's nothing to hold on to.
00:26:45
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There's not even any big characters.
00:26:49
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It's all very muted and boring.
00:26:52
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And basically, we learn that the... Can I spoil?
00:26:57
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Yeah.
00:26:58
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Because there's really nothing going on in this movie except people dying.
00:27:01
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If this movie sucks duck piss, I'm not watching it, man.
00:27:04
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It is not worth watching at all.
00:27:05
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At all.
00:27:06
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And so what we end up learning is that the owner of this villa where the composer is staying is...
00:27:14
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um he's the killer but shocker shocker right but he's dressing up like a 12 year old girl to do all the murders because he has this trauma from when he was a kid and he like got made fun of they call they people were yelling like are you a little girl you're some kind of little girl and so he has this like trauma from being bullied as a kid which is dumb as shit and um then he is like his killing he's like
00:27:40
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putting on like the clothes of a 12 year old girl and then killing people to prove like, I'm not this.
00:27:45
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Like, it's like the psychological break that's happening.
00:27:47
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The script is missing some, what I'll call cohesion.
00:27:50
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Yeah.
00:27:52
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No cohesion.
00:27:54
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The scenes are barely held together.
00:27:57
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The dialogue is bad.
00:27:58
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The kills aren't even good.
00:28:01
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Yeah.
00:28:03
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And it just stuff happens and you're like, huh?
00:28:06
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Okay.
00:28:08
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What's happening?
00:28:10
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Yeah.
00:28:10
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And that's the whole movie.
00:28:11
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And then at the end, you're like, okay, it's over.
00:28:14
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Yeah.
00:28:15
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So, like, the way that all gets... It's so convoluted at the end, too.
00:28:20
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Which, again, like, I don't know what I expected, but it's worse than... Yeah, but convoluted giallo is, like, normal, but... Exactly.
00:28:27
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It has to be fun convoluted.
00:28:29
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Exactly.
00:28:29
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It sounds like Lorenzo Bava.
00:28:34
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What's his name?
00:28:35
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Lamberto.
00:28:36
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Yeah, Lamberto.
00:28:36
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Lamberto Bava.
00:28:37
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It sounds like he watched Dressed to Kill, and he was like, yeah, but what if I made the Italian version of Dressed to Kill?
00:28:42
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It kind of does feel like that, except it's not sexy at all.
00:28:46
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Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.
00:28:48
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So I guess anti-Italian, because Italians are sexy.
00:28:50
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I was going to say, Italians... Yeah, but the other thing is, for a movie about a film composer, the music sucks.
00:28:57
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It sucks.
00:28:57
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It's like...
00:28:59
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D tier John Carpenter music.
00:29:01
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It's awful.
00:29:03
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It's awful.
00:29:04
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And especially we're going to get to the movie that Zach and I watched.
00:29:06
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That movie has banger music.
00:29:08
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So I was in a really good movie music headspace and then it just bummed me out.
00:29:13
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Also, this is a very small part of the movie, but I'm always a stickler.
00:29:17
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If you're going to be playing piano in a movie, at least look like you know what you're doing.
00:29:21
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This guy was just doing this and moving his arms around.
00:29:23
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And I was like, the fuck is this fucker's problem?
00:29:27
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So that was a whole thing.
00:29:29
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So the way that it gets tied back into the plot of him being a film composer...
00:29:33
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is the woman who wrote the movie that he's scoring.
00:29:37
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I barely caught this at the end of the movie.
00:29:38
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It's so convoluted.
00:29:40
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But she was somehow friendly with the guy who owned the house when he was cross-dressing.
00:29:49
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So she only she thought that he was a woman and and that person had told this film writer the story of her childhood in this bullying.
00:29:59
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So then she wrote the movie because the scene that we keep seeing him score is that scene.
00:30:04
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So it's all this like connectivity.
00:30:06
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But like, again, it doesn't make any fucking sense.
00:30:08
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There was no indication.
00:30:09
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So cool.
00:30:10
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Yeah.
00:30:10
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It's again, there's good ideas.
00:30:12
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It's all wasted, like Joe said.
00:30:14
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It's just bad direction and bad screenwriting.
00:30:19
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There's nothing really else to say.
00:30:20
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The ideas are all there.
00:30:21
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It's just put together.
00:30:23
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It kind of feels like they took a jigsaw puzzle, took out a bunch of pieces, and then just shoved it all together and poured glue on it.
00:30:30
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yeah yeah it feels i can say my curiosity has been quelled i mean i don't think it's worth watching but there's some interesting stuff the kills are just bad too like the first two kills are are with like a really skinny box cutter which i'm like cool but like there's literally like a two and a half minute scene of a girl standing behind a fence yeah just trying to
00:30:53
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He's just trying to poke her through the fence.
00:30:54
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And she's just like, no, no, don't do it.
00:30:57
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Don't do it.
00:30:58
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And it's just like, and it's very obviously, you know, a phallic symbol.
00:31:04
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I was going to say, can you show us how they stab one more time?
00:31:07
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Literally, it's like this, you know, it's Joe and I look like we're doing something else.
00:31:13
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But it's,
00:31:14
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Like, it's just really poorly put together.
00:31:17
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It could be so good.
00:31:18
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Joe just busted.
00:31:20
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He arrived?
00:31:24
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Yeah, he arrived.
00:31:25
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I'm here!
00:31:26
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I was hopeful for it, but it's not a successor.
00:31:29
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No, I was really trying to give it the benefit of the doubt the whole time.
00:31:33
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And I was just like, this fucking sucks so much.
00:31:36
Speaker
And I'm glad you didn't like it because I didn't want to be mean.
00:31:38
Speaker
But this is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
00:31:40
Speaker
I had no connection to either of these movies.
00:31:42
Speaker
This movie was absolutely god awful.
00:31:43
Speaker
I hated it.
00:31:44
Speaker
This is the thing with Tubi.
00:31:46
Speaker
You're going to gamble, and sometimes you're going to come up a seven, a crown, and a cherry.
00:31:52
Speaker
Yeah, you're right.
00:31:53
Speaker
That's right.
00:31:54
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But I'm happy to have the seven.
00:31:56
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And then sometimes you hit a lawnmower, man, and that's a three-line jackpot.
00:32:00
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Right there, baby.
00:32:02
Speaker
Come on.
00:32:02
Speaker
I agree.
00:32:03
Speaker
What's our next movie sequentially?
00:32:06
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Hold on, Red's coughing.
00:32:08
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Sorry.
00:32:11
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Okay.
00:32:14
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Okay.
00:32:14
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All right.
00:32:16
Speaker
Brian, what's the next movie on the list?
00:32:18
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Stewie.
00:32:19
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Stewie.
00:32:27
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The next one is from 1982, The Ballad of Gregorio Cortez.
00:32:33
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Hell yeah, bro.
00:32:33
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That sounds delightful, Stuart.
00:32:37
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You just called him Stuart.
00:32:39
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Zach, get us into it.
00:32:40
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So, Ballad of Gregorio Cortez.
00:32:43
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I chose this movie because...
00:32:45
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I know Austin and I both care about like Texas heritage to an extent.
00:32:53
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And Eddie James almost rules.
00:32:55
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And I saw that he was the lead of like this badass, very Texan Western movie about like,
00:33:04
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uh police wrongings um i was like this looks like something i want to watch i think austin would join too what i didn't realize and i regretted before i watched it was like i think i just chose like a genuinely really good movie for something that we kind of do as a bit yeah which was incidental but like that that suspicion was confirmed very quickly because like yeah
00:33:27
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The movie basically opens with the most beautiful cinematography of this dude riding a horse in the middle of Texas.
00:33:35
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As far as movies on location in Texas shot gorgeously and scored beautifully, I don't know if there's one that does it better that I've seen.
00:33:46
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Did you see the composer credit?
00:33:50
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Was it Morricone?
00:33:51
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Yeah.
00:33:51
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No, Edward James Olmos wrote all the music himself.
00:33:54
Speaker
Whoa, that's really cool.
00:33:56
Speaker
Yeah, he's got the composer credit, which is so fucking dope.
00:33:58
Speaker
Adding this to the damn watch list, you already sold me.
00:34:01
Speaker
Yeah, it's like a very exciting sort of tech-based, it's very Carpenter 80s.
00:34:07
Speaker
Yeah, it is.
00:34:08
Speaker
But it's so like,
00:34:10
Speaker
propulsive and awesome.
00:34:11
Speaker
The music is so cool.
00:34:12
Speaker
Every once in a while, these synth swells come in that are objectively out of place, but they work so well.
00:34:19
Speaker
Once you get past it initially, every time it comes back, you get so amped up.
00:34:24
Speaker
Speaking of Edward James Almos, this is a complete...
00:34:27
Speaker
off-topic discussion.
00:34:28
Speaker
But did you guys ever see the Portlandia episode where Fred and Carrie get addicted to Battlestar Galactica and the show is over and they can't figure out how to get another episode.
00:34:39
Speaker
They need more.
00:34:40
Speaker
And so they find Edward James Olmos
00:34:45
Speaker
And then they're like, we're going to do a reboot.
00:34:47
Speaker
We're going to do a read-through of a new episode.
00:34:50
Speaker
And he's like, okay, sure.
00:34:51
Speaker
And then they find the writer's name in the phone book, and he lives in Portland.
00:34:58
Speaker
They're like, oh, my God.
00:34:59
Speaker
And they go, and it's not him.
00:35:00
Speaker
It's just a dude with his name.
00:35:02
Speaker
But then he's like, sure, I'll write an episode.
00:35:04
Speaker
And so the end of the sketch is them reading through this random guy's retelling of the opening of Battlestar Galactica.
00:35:11
Speaker
Sorry, I just came to my head.
00:35:15
Speaker
Speaking of Edward James, he is phenomenal in this movie.
00:35:19
Speaker
Hell yeah.
00:35:20
Speaker
In my opinion.
00:35:21
Speaker
There's a few moments where it kind of goes over because he's playing a... We can talk about the plot in a minute, but he's playing a very dour character.
00:35:29
Speaker
The plot's nothing to spoil or anything because the synopsis is kind of the movie, but its execution is what makes it great.
00:35:35
Speaker
It's your classic runaway from the law movie.
00:35:39
Speaker
Dude is wrongfully accused.
00:35:42
Speaker
and starts going on the run.
00:35:44
Speaker
The Texas Rangers are tracking him down.
00:35:48
Speaker
One of my favorite parts of this movie is like,
00:35:52
Speaker
the detail in which he moves through specific locations and encounters specific types of people.
00:35:57
Speaker
Like he goes up north so that he can go west and goes through, which would be a specific part of Austin.
00:36:04
Speaker
That would be very like Swedish and German.
00:36:06
Speaker
And he meets like a farmer that is a background there.
00:36:10
Speaker
And it's those little details that like put the movie up an extra tier for me.
00:36:14
Speaker
But at the core of it, you have almost just delivering a killer performance.
00:36:19
Speaker
You also have like,
00:36:21
Speaker
a very young Bruce McGill playing a San Antonio express news reporter.
00:36:25
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:26
Speaker
Oh yeah.
00:36:27
Speaker
Unrecognizable.
00:36:28
Speaker
It's very strange to see him that young, like baby face McGill.
00:36:31
Speaker
You also have in this movie, uh, Brian James, who was in blade runner.
00:36:36
Speaker
Um,
00:36:37
Speaker
James Gammon, the manager from Major League, plays the sheriff and is fantastic.
00:36:42
Speaker
My favorite thing about the movie is the humanity given to these Texas Rangers who are essentially the bad guys.
00:36:51
Speaker
They are not just shoehorned into a bad guy role.
00:36:56
Speaker
They are all given a lot of depth and time to explore that depth, which I guess could be an argument for why are we not spending more time with the hero of the story?
00:37:04
Speaker
But the consequence of that is like the hero is...
00:37:10
Speaker
the hero's on the run for most of the movie.
00:37:12
Speaker
There's nothing cinematic about that.
00:37:14
Speaker
There's a whole side plot with one of the Rangers trying to reckon the choices he made at the onset of almost his character fleeing and whether or not he was protecting a human being or leaving his team out to dry.
00:37:29
Speaker
Yeah, he runs and gets another guy and is like, we have to get help.
00:37:31
Speaker
And the guy's like, we have to help him.
00:37:33
Speaker
Yeah, this juxtaposition of duty versus justice I think drives the movie in a big way.
00:37:38
Speaker
And who's what's I'm trying to find the actor's name who plays Barry Corbin plays his lawyer who is in no country, very small part in no country.
00:37:48
Speaker
But he's fantastic to as almost as look.
00:37:52
Speaker
It's just a really great cast of guys.
00:37:54
Speaker
Really thought you said Billy Corgan for a second.
00:37:56
Speaker
Billy Corgan.
00:37:57
Speaker
That would be fascinating.
00:38:01
Speaker
This movie, just a fun little fact about it that I found because I was looking for the movie on IMDb.
00:38:07
Speaker
This movie originally aired on American Playhouse TV.
00:38:10
Speaker
Damn it, you stole my fact, Austin.
00:38:13
Speaker
Oh yeah, I didn't get a theatrical.
00:38:14
Speaker
Well, I did a lot of research.
00:38:17
Speaker
So it originally in 1982.
00:38:18
Speaker
And like, if you look at it on IMDb, it's only available as an episode of American Playhouse.
00:38:23
Speaker
Like it's not, you can't really see like a full description of it, but it's now on the criteria in the criterion collection.
00:38:29
Speaker
there's a disc yeah I was gonna say the moment I knew I like picked a movie that didn't fit what we were doing very well is when it had a Criterion release five out of five stars and 100% on Rotten Tomatoes oh shit yeah yeah
00:38:45
Speaker
But it's like, you know, you're one of my only like mutuals on Letterboxd who've seen it because I don't think it's like well-written, but it's a great Texas movie.
00:38:54
Speaker
It's a great movie about a period in Texas history and like the changes that this man was able to make throughout his life.
00:39:01
Speaker
I also don't think it's not for a TV movie.
00:39:04
Speaker
It's not too short, but it also doesn't drag on.
00:39:06
Speaker
Yeah.
00:39:07
Speaker
It feels, it feels correct.
00:39:09
Speaker
I don't think that picking a really good movie is against the spirit of the Tubi episodes.
00:39:13
Speaker
Cause I think that's the thing with Tubi is like, yeah, like, you know, you get, you get a blade at dark and you're like, this fucking sucks.
00:39:21
Speaker
And then you queue up the ballad of Gregorio Cortez and you're like, wait, holy shit.
00:39:25
Speaker
Yeah, I completely has nobody fucking seen this.
00:39:28
Speaker
Yeah, but when we were planning this, we were like, let's all get fucking freaky with this.
00:39:33
Speaker
That's not what happened here.
00:39:35
Speaker
But it is it is something terrifically like you didn't pick a normie thing.
00:39:38
Speaker
Like it's it's terrifically underseen.
00:39:40
Speaker
Yeah, very odd to see it.
00:39:42
Speaker
Yeah, I just kept thinking that that's the name of the dad in Spy Kids.
00:39:47
Speaker
Gregorio Cortez.
00:39:48
Speaker
Yeah, that's right.
00:39:50
Speaker
I mean, I wonder why.
00:39:53
Speaker
Spike kids.
00:39:54
Speaker
Spike kids.
00:39:55
Speaker
It reminds me of another Portlandia, but I have Portlandia on the brain right now, but I've been saying, I'm just a little guy.
00:40:03
Speaker
All the time.
00:40:04
Speaker
You know why I can fit in there?
00:40:06
Speaker
I'm just a little guy.
00:40:08
Speaker
The guy who made this movie, Robert M. Young, he's got a bunch of credits but nothing that's well seen.
00:40:18
Speaker
I don't know what became of him.
00:40:20
Speaker
He's a fucking bitch loser.
00:40:21
Speaker
There's something he shot that really stood out to me.
00:40:24
Speaker
Oh, is he a cinematographer on something?
00:40:28
Speaker
Hold on.
00:40:30
Speaker
Oh, that's interesting.
00:40:31
Speaker
He's going to come up in my high and low later for something.
00:40:34
Speaker
Wow.
00:40:36
Speaker
A little tease for you there.
00:40:39
Speaker
I got to see what I was thinking before.
00:40:40
Speaker
Tim Allen, home improvement noise.
00:40:43
Speaker
Oh, Austin, I know what I was going to bring up.
00:40:47
Speaker
Didn't you just recently watch a Michael Romer movie?
00:40:51
Speaker
That's the one we're going to talk about in my high and low.
00:40:53
Speaker
Yeah, he shot Michael Romer's first two movies.
00:40:57
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:58
Speaker
That's what it was.
00:41:01
Speaker
I can't wait to tell you all about that.
00:41:02
Speaker
Romer did...
00:41:05
Speaker
My mods.
00:41:05
Speaker
Is that the one?
00:41:06
Speaker
No, that's Eric Romare.
00:41:08
Speaker
So Eric Romare is a Frenchman.
00:41:11
Speaker
Michael Romer was a German Jew, German Jew filmmaker who came to America at the beginning.
00:41:18
Speaker
He's still alive.
00:41:19
Speaker
He's 94.
00:41:21
Speaker
We came to America with his family when he was very young, fleeing the Nazis.
00:41:25
Speaker
And I was going to say, is this like.
00:41:26
Speaker
Holocaust stuff.
00:41:27
Speaker
Yeah, he became, but he was a film professor at Yale for forever and taught a lot of great filmmakers, but he made a few movies.
00:41:34
Speaker
We'll talk about him later.
00:41:35
Speaker
There are, there's, he has another Criterion, not, he doesn't have a Criterion release, but it's on the Criterion channel.
00:41:43
Speaker
Robert M. Young does?
00:41:44
Speaker
That I really want to watch called Alambrista.
00:41:46
Speaker
Okay.
00:41:48
Speaker
it's about immigration and working in the united states as a non-citizen interesting that sounds awesome really looks well but his most lauded movie is one called short eyes um about sounds a young man charged with molestation going into the new york prison system jesus interesting i'm sorry i made a joke yeah but it looks yeah red don't you feel bad now
00:42:11
Speaker
See, it's fascinating to me.
00:42:13
Speaker
Robert M. Young was from New York City.
00:42:14
Speaker
How does a guy from New York City get in the heart of Texas like that?
00:42:18
Speaker
Good for him.
00:42:19
Speaker
Yeah, man.
00:42:20
Speaker
I think he comes from a Latino background.
00:42:25
Speaker
Oh, that's cool.
00:42:27
Speaker
But yes, I'm definitely curious about looking into Robert M. Young more because he definitely got a style and he's good at filmmaking that like
00:42:37
Speaker
is fun, but also has some layers of depth that aren't super on the nose.
00:42:42
Speaker
Hell yeah.
00:42:43
Speaker
You've sold me.
00:42:44
Speaker
Good.
00:42:46
Speaker
It's the goal.
00:42:47
Speaker
Good.
00:42:47
Speaker
Buy, buy, buy.
00:42:48
Speaker
Who's that guy?
00:42:51
Speaker
Huh?
00:42:52
Speaker
Mad Money?
00:42:53
Speaker
Is that what that show's called?
00:42:54
Speaker
Jim Cramer?
00:42:55
Speaker
Sure, I don't know.
00:42:56
Speaker
I don't give a shit.
00:42:58
Speaker
What's his name?
00:42:59
Speaker
Fox Business?
00:43:00
Speaker
Yeah, okay, yeah.
00:43:02
Speaker
He's on Fox Business, right?
00:43:04
Speaker
I heard an advertisement.
00:43:06
Speaker
C-SPAN.
00:43:07
Speaker
So my car, when I turn it on and I haven't plugged my phone into the Apple Play yet or the CarPlay, whatever, the Sirius XM ad is playing where it's like, check out all the cool channels that you could have.
00:43:18
Speaker
And today I got served one that was like...
00:43:22
Speaker
It was like a conservative news channel.
00:43:24
Speaker
It was like, hey, I'm I'm Megan Kelly.
00:43:28
Speaker
Come and listen to my show.
00:43:29
Speaker
And I was like, and I just it felt like a personal attack.
00:43:32
Speaker
I guess I get that bitch off my fucking radio.
00:43:35
Speaker
And then it was like, I don't know.
00:43:36
Speaker
There was just like a few.
00:43:37
Speaker
It was like was Megan Kelly the one who said recently, like, who cares if Donald Trump got handsy with a lady?
00:43:43
Speaker
Something like that.
00:43:44
Speaker
Is that the other one?
00:43:46
Speaker
I will say she's an unfortunate wood for me, but have some.
00:43:53
Speaker
I'll give her some unfortunate wood.
00:43:55
Speaker
Hey, that's the only place the brain goes.
00:43:58
Speaker
Matt and I watched that movie Bombshell where the lady that plays her
00:44:03
Speaker
charlie starin charlie starin yeah we watched it and i remember going man it sucks that that happened to her but she's a fucking bitch huh speaking of charlie's her cameo in the studio was wonderful yeah it's just like one line to watch yeah it was very good oh the other thing speaking of one line the fun the weirdest thing about baladon gregorio cortez is ned beatty shows up for like two lines
00:44:27
Speaker
Let's fucking go.
00:44:29
Speaker
Not in a major part.
00:44:30
Speaker
He's just part of a riot group that's trying to get Gregorio Cortez lynched towards the end.
00:44:38
Speaker
It's so weird.
00:44:39
Speaker
Six years after Network, after he gets an Oscar nomination, he's just in this... He was just walking by the set one day and he's like, hey, can I... Fucking weird.
00:44:49
Speaker
Can I get in on this?
00:44:51
Speaker
I like that.
00:44:51
Speaker
Yes.
00:44:52
Speaker
You guys got movies?
00:44:53
Speaker
You guys doing movies in here?
00:44:56
Speaker
Oh...
00:44:57
Speaker
They're doing movies over there.
00:44:58
Speaker
I've seen one of these cameras before.
00:45:02
Speaker
So is this one of those things where you call action and we do a scene with a script?
00:45:10
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:11
Speaker
Crazy, right?
00:45:13
Speaker
Weird New Yorker who doesn't understand movies but understands lighting.
00:45:16
Speaker
What do you mean?
00:45:17
Speaker
How many best boy key grips you got going around?
00:45:19
Speaker
Is this you guys doing a three-point setup or what?
00:45:23
Speaker
You guys got gaffers?
00:45:25
Speaker
You got union guys here?
00:45:26
Speaker
That's a real interesting key light you got there.
00:45:29
Speaker
Yeah, he only knows about movies because he's like a union head.
00:45:33
Speaker
He's like, I've never seen a film.
00:45:36
Speaker
Oh, you guys shooting in 16 millimeter?
00:45:39
Speaker
What is this, some kind of movie?
00:45:40
Speaker
I feel like there's a lot of set guys that don't give a shit about movies.
00:45:44
Speaker
No, that's like, dude, that's set guys.
00:45:46
Speaker
I know so many who are that way.
00:45:47
Speaker
Yeah.
00:45:49
Speaker
I like, I know my...
00:45:52
Speaker
A very close friend of my family after he had been a firefighter and EMT and had done a lot of really incredible stuff with his life.
00:46:00
Speaker
He was kind of reaching like he could retire early, but he had gotten a job basically just being the EMT on duty on film sets in the Atlanta metropolitan area.
00:46:11
Speaker
Oh, cool.
00:46:12
Speaker
Or rather the greater Atlanta area.
00:46:14
Speaker
And he would talk a lot about like...
00:46:18
Speaker
There would be guys who were like ball knowers.
00:46:21
Speaker
They loved it.
00:46:23
Speaker
They loved the craft.
00:46:25
Speaker
These guys all loved ball knowers about the craft.
00:46:27
Speaker
But you talk to guys who really knew their stuff and loved movies.
00:46:32
Speaker
And then so many guys who were like, I'm good at what I do.
00:46:34
Speaker
I do not care about the thing.
00:46:39
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:39
Speaker
Yeah.
00:46:40
Speaker
There's a, there's a really funny story that Conan told in his podcast about one of his, one of the guys in his crew when he first got there, like after he took over for Letterman, the guy told him like he worked on the Ed Sullivan show and he's like, Whoa, were you there when the Beatles came?
00:46:55
Speaker
And he goes, yeah, those fuckers made me stay late.
00:46:58
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:02
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:47:04
Speaker
I was dying laughing at the circle jerk Rashomon tweet.
00:47:08
Speaker
What?
00:47:09
Speaker
I know Red's seen it, but there's a tweet.
00:47:11
Speaker
Wait, let me pull it up and read it.
00:47:14
Speaker
It's better if you read it word for word, because I think it's worded perfectly.
00:47:19
Speaker
It is a quote tweet of the Variety article, like of the first photos of Dickinson, Kyogen, uh...
00:47:28
Speaker
oh yeah the beatles the beatles the uh uh dickinson is in there yeah dickinson is gonna be uh and mescal right dickinson's john mescal is paul uh yeah joseph quinn is um george george and yeah joan's gonna play every time i see every time i see pictures of this movie or the cast or like any news about it i'm just like i
00:47:54
Speaker
dude i you're you're making my give a fuck levels go so far down like i saw someone say i like all those guys though is it barry keoghan as ringo star and the person's quotes he was sure what the fuck i guess why not who cares dickinson and mescal are good casting though there's there's someone i agree mad that they casted an asian to play a beetle because they couldn't understand what the fuck barry kegan's vibe was
00:48:22
Speaker
This is a tweet.
00:48:23
Speaker
Okay, read the tweet.
00:48:24
Speaker
The circle jerk scene appears in all four Beatles movies, but the length slash girth changed Rashomon style.
00:48:33
Speaker
It's all about perspective.
00:48:35
Speaker
It's all about perspective.
00:48:38
Speaker
I am just excited to hear people try to hear a lot of those guys who have very, very, very distinct accents from their own parts of England and Ireland.
00:48:48
Speaker
But to do a Liverpudlian accent, I'm worried.
00:48:51
Speaker
I got a Liverpudlian accent for your right ear.
00:48:53
Speaker
I do think Liverpool is one of the easier UK accents.
00:48:57
Speaker
It's very distinct.
00:48:58
Speaker
I'm the Beatles.
00:49:00
Speaker
from Liverpool I'm Paul my name's Paul McCartney I died a long time ago the funniest thing is if you want to do a Liverpool accent you just copy a Beatle and if you want to do a Manchester accent you just copy a Gallagher brother yep that's exactly right I I hope at one point in the movie they say uh George Harrison's famous line which was uh George which of the uh
00:49:23
Speaker
which are the Liverpool football clubs do you support being Liverpool and Everton?
00:49:29
Speaker
And he was like, I support the other one, which is really funny.
00:49:33
Speaker
That's like a Bob Dylan ass response.
00:49:34
Speaker
It is.
00:49:36
Speaker
Be whatever they don't want me to be.
00:49:38
Speaker
All right, Rick.
00:49:39
Speaker
I hope Eric Clapton's in there somewhere.
00:49:41
Speaker
Oh, Jesus.
00:49:41
Speaker
Yeah, I hope they do.
00:49:43
Speaker
But they use real Eric Clapton.
00:49:45
Speaker
They don't use pattern actor.
00:49:45
Speaker
They use real Eric Clapton, and then you get You Look Wonderful Tonight, which I think is a fucking banger of a tune.
00:49:51
Speaker
I think that they should do a Tarantino-style revisionist history where one of the Beatles shoots Eric Clapton in the face with a gun.
00:49:58
Speaker
That sounds fun.
00:50:00
Speaker
A Cliff Booth-esque moment.
00:50:03
Speaker
And then they catch his son as he falls out of the window.
00:50:07
Speaker
They say, fuck that song.
00:50:12
Speaker
Phoebe Bridgers was right.
00:50:13
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:14
Speaker
No, it's actually Phoebe Bridgers.
00:50:15
Speaker
She comes back in time to save his son.
00:50:18
Speaker
I'm the first white man who said that in two years who meant that earnestly.
00:50:24
Speaker
There was another commentary where it was like, honestly, the choice to portray Yoko Ono with Awkwafina is so inspired.
00:50:31
Speaker
What the fuck is you talking about, Jon?
00:50:35
Speaker
Jon Lennon, what is you talking about?
00:50:37
Speaker
Crazy.
00:50:39
Speaker
Listen, who should they cast as Yoko?
00:50:44
Speaker
I'm going to refrain.
00:50:46
Speaker
I cannot give casting choices without sounding like I'm just naming Asian ladies.
00:50:55
Speaker
There's no way any of us come out of this without unscathed.
00:50:58
Speaker
I think we should call this one off.
00:51:00
Speaker
Well, after watching the studio, I have Greta Lee on the brain.
00:51:04
Speaker
I think she could be interesting.
00:51:06
Speaker
No.
00:51:07
Speaker
Name three other Asian ladies, Austin.
00:51:09
Speaker
Let's just see what happens.
00:51:11
Speaker
Asian ladies.
00:51:15
Speaker
I took one of them.
00:51:16
Speaker
Stephanie Shue.
00:51:17
Speaker
Let's cast the guy that plays Guy Talk.
00:51:21
Speaker
Love him.
00:51:22
Speaker
What about Rose?
00:51:23
Speaker
What about our girl?
00:51:26
Speaker
Actually, who are they casting?
00:51:27
Speaker
We're talking about White Lotus.
00:51:29
Speaker
Get on the fucking board or get out.
00:51:31
Speaker
Lisa.
00:51:32
Speaker
Oh my God, Lisa, hi.
00:51:34
Speaker
Adam says that every time Lisa comes up.
00:51:38
Speaker
She is so cute.
00:51:40
Speaker
I love her.
00:51:41
Speaker
You know what?
00:51:41
Speaker
I actually have a good casting for Yoko Ono.
00:51:44
Speaker
Kelly Marie Tran, the girl from Star Wars.
00:51:47
Speaker
Aw, from Star Wars.
00:51:49
Speaker
I like her a lot.
00:51:50
Speaker
Yeah, and she got, her and Boyega got fucked by Star Wars fans.
00:51:53
Speaker
They got railroaded, dude.
00:51:54
Speaker
Yeah, they did.
00:51:56
Speaker
Fuck those people, man.
00:51:57
Speaker
They got fucking railroaded.
00:51:58
Speaker
Put them in a Clint picture.
00:52:00
Speaker
We need to get Boyega in something really good fast.
00:52:03
Speaker
He's so talented.
00:52:05
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:06
Speaker
Something.
00:52:07
Speaker
I mean, how many more are we getting?
00:52:09
Speaker
This is the real question.
00:52:10
Speaker
I hope we'll have three coming next year.
00:52:12
Speaker
I would love to have Jerry on three.
00:52:15
Speaker
Again, Rashomon style, it's J.K.
00:52:16
Speaker
Simmons' perspective from Jerry on number two.
00:52:19
Speaker
But then they replaced Nicholas Holt with John Boyega for no discernible reason.
00:52:23
Speaker
I liked Jerry on number three, Tokyo Drift, personally.
00:52:27
Speaker
It is good.
00:52:28
Speaker
I would like to.
00:52:28
Speaker
And then Juror number four, two Juror, two Furious.
00:52:31
Speaker
Yeah, but no, it's Juror.
00:52:33
Speaker
It's Juror and four.
00:52:35
Speaker
Juror number three, Tokyo Drift.
00:52:37
Speaker
Yeah, rural Juror.
00:52:38
Speaker
Juror number three, Tokyo Drift, has to star Clint in like a 2002 Honda.
00:52:45
Speaker
We have to be accurate to the tradition.
00:52:48
Speaker
One of the jurors is the initial D-car.
00:52:49
Speaker
Hector's running Honda Civic's with spoon engines.
00:52:52
Speaker
Yeah, there's just like a car that's in the juror stand that when a new piece of evidence is put forward, it honks.
00:52:58
Speaker
It's a Corolla 86 with the pop-up headlights.
00:53:02
Speaker
It does the Christine shot where something happens.
00:53:05
Speaker
In a flashback, something happens and then the car headlights come up like in Christine.
00:53:10
Speaker
And the case is a GSX on trial for pedophilia.
00:53:15
Speaker
John Boyega was good in They Cloned Tyrone.
00:53:18
Speaker
He was great in that movie, but that's like a low-key Netflix original.
00:53:21
Speaker
I want to see him in a major motion picture.
00:53:23
Speaker
I want to see him in a DCOM.
00:53:25
Speaker
I want to see him on the big screen.
00:53:27
Speaker
Put him in a porno!
00:53:31
Speaker
Put them in a Daily Wire original.
00:53:34
Speaker
Yeah, put them in Lady Ballers 2.
00:53:38
Speaker
Put them in a New Yorker short film that no one ever watches.
00:53:43
Speaker
Put them in a variety actors on actors.
00:53:47
Speaker
But it's two of him.
00:53:48
Speaker
He's doing it with himself.
00:53:49
Speaker
Put him in a Jubilee video.
00:53:52
Speaker
Put him in 15 liberals.
00:53:55
Speaker
Put him in 15 Star Wars fans.
00:53:57
Speaker
Destroy one black guy.
00:54:03
Speaker
Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:54:03
Speaker
What movie did you guys watch?
00:54:05
Speaker
Zach and Red?
00:54:07
Speaker
We watched Burnt Offerings.
00:54:09
Speaker
It's from the mid-1970s.
00:54:13
Speaker
I'll be honest, the entire reason that we watched this is because...
00:54:16
Speaker
Many, many, probably like two years ago, Alex Ross Perry went on The Big Picture to talk about horror movies, and he referenced Burnt Offerings, and he, or I think it was a horror draft, actually, so it would have been three years ago.
00:54:28
Speaker
But he referenced it as like a movie he really loved.
00:54:32
Speaker
And I like that guy's movies.
00:54:35
Speaker
He's got good taste.
00:54:38
Speaker
This is not a movie I really loved.
00:54:40
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:41
Speaker
No, it's not.
00:54:42
Speaker
There's great stuff in it, but at least the first half is like kind of like watching paint dry.
00:54:49
Speaker
Yeah, you unpack a little bit, Red, and I'll jump in.
00:54:53
Speaker
Yeah, it is...
00:54:57
Speaker
honestly, I texted Zach about this and I said eerily similar to The Shining.
00:55:02
Speaker
It came out four years prior and I think technically prior to when King wrote the book or rather the book was published.
00:55:09
Speaker
But a family is moving into this house that they are going to be renting for the summer and then with the hopes to eventually buy it.
00:55:19
Speaker
And, you know, they're like kind of down on their luck.
00:55:21
Speaker
They don't have a ton of money.
00:55:23
Speaker
The dad who is...
00:55:28
Speaker
Oliver Reed.
00:55:29
Speaker
Oliver Reed.
00:55:29
Speaker
I almost said Oliver Peck.
00:55:31
Speaker
Oliver Peck is not a person.
00:55:32
Speaker
I was thinking horrible Peck.
00:55:34
Speaker
Oliver Reed is the dad and he's a writer.
00:55:37
Speaker
Oliver Peck's the tattoo artist in Dallas.
00:55:40
Speaker
Hell yeah.
00:55:41
Speaker
Well done.
00:55:42
Speaker
So Oliver Reed is a writer who it's kind of implied used to like a bit of a tipple.
00:55:50
Speaker
He is angry with everyone and his wife.
00:55:54
Speaker
He likes to get violent with his child.
00:55:56
Speaker
His wife, who is played by Karen Black, and it's one of her weaker performances.
00:56:01
Speaker
Yeah, she's not great in the movie.
00:56:02
Speaker
He might actually be the weakest link of this film.
00:56:05
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:07
Speaker
I mean, it is like to the T, what if The Shining, but like Heat of the Summer...
00:56:14
Speaker
And it's really slow.
00:56:19
Speaker
And like what Zach was saying, there's awesome bits.
00:56:21
Speaker
There's a particular sequence in the pool with Oliver Reed and his son.
00:56:24
Speaker
Yeah, they do some cool shit with a pool, practically.
00:56:27
Speaker
That's my favorite part of the movie by a country-ass smile.
00:56:31
Speaker
Really, really fucking cool stuff there.
00:56:35
Speaker
There is an entire plot line.
00:56:38
Speaker
Sorry, I should have mentioned this at the beginning.
00:56:39
Speaker
The people that they're renting the house from are a brother and a sister.
00:56:43
Speaker
They mention that their father has died and that their mother lives in the upstairs room.
00:56:49
Speaker
and that they just need to feed her three meals a day, just leave them at the door, and it's kind of set up like Psycho in that way.
00:56:59
Speaker
That's a classic horror movie set up.
00:57:01
Speaker
And it's... It's very much like Psycho in that regard.
00:57:08
Speaker
It started in a place with setting up that... Or rather, I'm sorry, it ended kind of in a place of Karen Black is...
00:57:15
Speaker
really attached to this woman and what's happened and yada, yada, yada.
00:57:18
Speaker
And I just felt like for everything that was really fucking sick is there were, there were not nearly enough, like really cool payoffs.
00:57:27
Speaker
I do think like the final shot is pretty rad.
00:57:30
Speaker
Okay.
00:57:31
Speaker
Yeah, there's some cool... Yeah, the final shot's very rad.
00:57:34
Speaker
There's, like... But the thing about this movie, there's great actors in it.
00:57:38
Speaker
Like, there's a really... One of the more fun parts of the movie is the aunt that comes and lives with them is played by Bette Davis, and she's just having fun, dude.
00:57:47
Speaker
Yeah, love her.
00:57:47
Speaker
Like, she's just making weird choices.
00:57:50
Speaker
You got Burgess Meredith in this movie.
00:57:52
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:57:53
Speaker
Love it.
00:57:53
Speaker
Playing the... One of the people who lives at this house full-time, technically.
00:57:58
Speaker
Okay.
00:57:59
Speaker
He's like, does he work on the property?
00:58:01
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:02
Speaker
Okay.
00:58:02
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:03
Speaker
And the thing is, in a world where we're just assaulted by remake IP culture, this is actually, I think, something that could...
00:58:14
Speaker
actually thrive with a remake um because the concepts are all there it's enough different than psycho and the shining um and you could take all the great beats from the movie and get rid of all the garbage and there's yeah i think that there could be a really fun movie with the exact same concept yeah i i'm not disinterested you know it sounds interesting i don't regret watching i don't feel like it was a waste of time it um it just it
00:58:44
Speaker
it made me think of a bunch of other movies that came before and after it that I liked more.
00:58:49
Speaker
Or even movies like a similar movie that I watched was...
00:58:53
Speaker
The Others, which is that Nicole Kidman movie from 2001.
00:58:59
Speaker
And there was a lot that felt similar to that, but the Kidman performance is much stronger than the Karen Black performance in this movie.
00:59:07
Speaker
It's just like... Oliver Reed's performance is pretty good.
00:59:12
Speaker
I think he's very good.
00:59:14
Speaker
There's a part in the storyline with how he treats his son that was probably the most compelling part of the movie.
00:59:21
Speaker
Okay.
00:59:22
Speaker
Very shining.
00:59:24
Speaker
Yeah.
00:59:24
Speaker
You know, the sun relationship.
00:59:26
Speaker
I just watched Oliver Reed in Cronenberg's The Brood, which I haven't finished yet, but I was very much enjoying it.
00:59:33
Speaker
I was kind of watching it in bed the other night.
00:59:35
Speaker
And he plays like a...
00:59:37
Speaker
sort of uh kook cult leader doctor guy um in that um who's like basically holding the mother of his child hostage um and won't let her you know won't let her husband see her and all this stuff um and then starts to go south with the daughter but oliver reed is very good and charming and was probably you know 90 whiskey at that point but
01:00:01
Speaker
Famous one who liked to pull the cork.
01:00:06
Speaker
He died filming Gladiator.
01:00:08
Speaker
Yeah, I remember hearing that.
01:00:11
Speaker
Yeah, and a lot of that stuff they did in CG.
01:00:15
Speaker
A lot of his performance, which is kind of unbelievable when you watch the movie now.
01:00:20
Speaker
For 99?
01:00:21
Speaker
Yeah, or 2001.
01:00:22
Speaker
Especially when they failed to do it a few years ago.
01:00:25
Speaker
Oh, he died in 99.
01:00:26
Speaker
You're right, you're right.
01:00:27
Speaker
He died well.
01:00:28
Speaker
Sorry, Joe, what were you saying?
01:00:29
Speaker
I was just saying, it's crazy to think that they did that all with CGI back then when Star Wars couldn't do it convincingly like a few years ago.
01:00:37
Speaker
Yeah.
01:00:38
Speaker
Yeah.
01:00:39
Speaker
And Alien Romulus had a tough time with it.
01:00:42
Speaker
I heard that they fixed that one on the DVD release.
01:00:44
Speaker
Oh, interesting.
01:00:45
Speaker
I would like to buy that movie.
01:00:46
Speaker
I'd like to have that movie.
01:00:47
Speaker
Yeah, I want to give it another shot.
01:00:49
Speaker
I mean, I liked it fine, but I'm interested to see how they fix the CGI.
01:00:55
Speaker
The Corridor Crew did a breakdown of the CGI on the video, and they had a really good take on it where the technicalities of the CGI are in a lot of ways flawlessly executed.
01:01:08
Speaker
It's the positioning and more of the...
01:01:12
Speaker
More of the direction where it falls flat and creates the uncanny valley type deal.
01:01:16
Speaker
So they said that they had to fit, like, I think, what I remember is I read, it was either a tweet or it's like an article or something.
01:01:23
Speaker
Austin's wrapped right now.
01:01:25
Speaker
Sorry, I'm just looking for my water bottle.
01:01:27
Speaker
But it was about how, like, it was Fede Alvarez talking about how the CGI for his character specifically was really rushed, and they had to get it out fast.
01:01:38
Speaker
And so they were saying that on the 4K release that they were, they went back in and retouched it up.
01:01:44
Speaker
So I'm wondering how much they can actually fix versus how much of it was just the fault of shot choice or whatever.
01:01:49
Speaker
If I recall correctly, that choice was almost because they used too many methods.
01:01:56
Speaker
Like they created... Oh, interesting.
01:01:58
Speaker
They created an exact replica robot puppet, but then also did the like...
01:02:05
Speaker
the face swap technology.
01:02:07
Speaker
And so they just doubled down on weird ways that were unnecessary and not, not really like for the sake of the best artistic choice.
01:02:17
Speaker
Whatever happened to tennis balls?
01:02:19
Speaker
I would be so down to just a robot.
01:02:21
Speaker
Just do a mocap, dude.
01:02:22
Speaker
If you're going to try to do a face mop.
01:02:24
Speaker
Go all in one way or the other.
01:02:26
Speaker
Just build a real robot and shoot him in the goddamn head.
01:02:29
Speaker
Well, it's like the baby Yoda thing.
01:02:30
Speaker
It's like the puppet is better.
01:02:33
Speaker
The puppet is infinitely better.
01:02:34
Speaker
Same with real Yoda.
01:02:38
Speaker
Especially with this character because it literally is a fucking robot.
01:02:42
Speaker
Exactly.
01:02:43
Speaker
Let him be a robot.
01:02:44
Speaker
Yeah, you dumb motherfuckers.
01:02:47
Speaker
Yeah, be a robot.
01:02:49
Speaker
I would love it if that was a cut that you could get on the 4K.
01:02:53
Speaker
Give me the robot cut.
01:02:54
Speaker
Release, robot cut.
01:02:57
Speaker
No CGI and burnt offerings.
01:02:59
Speaker
Give me uncut robots.
01:03:03
Speaker
I want my robot uncircumcised.
01:03:08
Speaker
You got it, President Kennedy.
01:03:12
Speaker
My robot should never get married in a cemetery.
01:03:17
Speaker
Only in the Irish Catholic Church.
01:03:18
Speaker
Ask not how your robot can fuck for you.
01:03:22
Speaker
Ask how you can fuck for your robot.
01:03:27
Speaker
Joe, can you do a bender impression?
01:03:28
Speaker
Fuck.
01:03:33
Speaker
I honestly don't know if I can do a bender.
01:03:36
Speaker
John DiMaggio is really... I might be able to pull out a Zoidberg.
01:03:44
Speaker
He goes, there's one scene that I always think of where he's like, fuck, I'm not going to be able to pull it off, but the line is he goes, and maybe for Zoidberg, perhaps treats?
01:04:01
Speaker
That sounded almost more like Billy Crystal.
01:04:03
Speaker
Yeah.
01:04:05
Speaker
Treats?
01:04:06
Speaker
Sort of Swedish shit.
01:04:07
Speaker
Perhaps treats for Zoidberg?
01:04:09
Speaker
Yeah.
01:04:10
Speaker
I like that Futurama got away with just having the crustacean race just be Jewish.
01:04:17
Speaker
Yeah.
01:04:18
Speaker
Like, they have Zoidberg's uncle who was just, like, a Jewish silent film director.
01:04:22
Speaker
Nice.
01:04:24
Speaker
I mean, his name is Zoidberg.
01:04:26
Speaker
Yeah, I mean... It kind of tells you where you're going here.
01:04:30
Speaker
It would have been fun if it was Zoidstein.
01:04:33
Speaker
Yeah.
01:04:34
Speaker
I love that Bender impression turned into Jewish space politics.
01:04:38
Speaker
Yeah.
01:04:40
Speaker
What can I say?
01:04:40
Speaker
They're a space Palestine?
01:04:43
Speaker
It's always funny.
01:04:44
Speaker
This is going to sound bad, I think.
01:04:45
Speaker
But it's always funny when you're like, yeah, this alien race is akin to this sort of people group in the world.
01:04:53
Speaker
Like in Men in Black, there's like... Like the Gungans?
01:04:56
Speaker
Yeah, like, well, there's... The Gungans are pretty bad.
01:04:59
Speaker
That's pretty heinous.
01:05:01
Speaker
Yeah, well, George Lucas is not the person to do that.
01:05:03
Speaker
Yeah, and just like Watto, the Jewish slave owner from the first movie.
01:05:06
Speaker
I mean, must be to mention J.K.
01:05:08
Speaker
Rowling and the Gawlins.
01:05:11
Speaker
Yeah, that's pretty bad.
01:05:13
Speaker
That's pretty bad.
01:05:14
Speaker
There's bad news.
01:05:15
Speaker
I just think it's like when it's done, executed well, it's fun.
01:05:18
Speaker
Yeah, sure.
01:05:19
Speaker
Like, it's a good time when that can kind of be executed.
01:05:23
Speaker
Like the Asian aliens from The Phantom Menace.
01:05:26
Speaker
I'll be honest.
01:05:28
Speaker
I'm doing an impression of the aliens from Star Wars.
01:05:30
Speaker
It's okay if I do it.
01:05:43
Speaker
I was about to say I'm really surprised you didn't do it.
01:05:46
Speaker
And then I was going to say I was proud of you for not doing it.
01:05:48
Speaker
That is a J. Donnie on our ship.
01:05:50
Speaker
That was really good.
01:05:53
Speaker
I've seen that movie a lot of times.
01:05:54
Speaker
Same, buddy.
01:05:55
Speaker
Same.
01:05:55
Speaker
That's why I can judge it.
01:05:58
Speaker
And then Qui-Gon goes, Navgas.
01:06:02
Speaker
It was a good Neeson.
01:06:04
Speaker
I really, I'll say, watching the Naked Gun trailer today did not inspire hope for me much.
01:06:11
Speaker
However much I might argue with the opposite, but it did really make me want to go back and re-watch the first Taken.
01:06:17
Speaker
I really liked the dead dad's joke.
01:06:19
Speaker
I think the dead dad jokes in the trailer was really fucking funny.
01:06:22
Speaker
I liked the one shot of his leg up where his undies looked comically small, and it looked like he kind of was popping a nut.
01:06:30
Speaker
Yeah.
01:06:31
Speaker
I think we should pop more nuts in some famous, famous giant hog.
01:06:34
Speaker
However, Liam Neeson, famous pants, pisser Liam.
01:06:37
Speaker
Some, some woman that he had slept with called it an Evian bottle.
01:06:41
Speaker
Holy shit.
01:06:44
Speaker
Liam, come on the podcast.
01:06:46
Speaker
We got to hear about this.
01:06:47
Speaker
We got to see.
01:06:48
Speaker
You know what?
01:06:48
Speaker
He's ugly cranking.
01:06:50
Speaker
Yeah.
01:06:51
Speaker
Crank.
01:06:52
Speaker
You're a crank.
01:06:53
Speaker
Nice.
01:06:53
Speaker
We're at the same page.
01:07:00
Speaker
Liam Neeson, Willem Dafoe in a movie where they intertwine penises like a Twizzler.
01:07:06
Speaker
Like a medicular person.
01:07:08
Speaker
Yeah.
01:07:09
Speaker
Oh, God.
01:07:10
Speaker
The prank, I will say, one of my favorite, speaking of this, one of my favorite Eric Andre pranks is where it's him and, God, I forgot the other guy.
01:07:18
Speaker
It's the bad trick movie.
01:07:19
Speaker
Hannibal Buress.
01:07:20
Speaker
No, it's... Bad trip?
01:07:23
Speaker
Tiffany Haddish.
01:07:24
Speaker
No, it's a guy.
01:07:25
Speaker
Hold on, I'm looking it up.
01:07:28
Speaker
Well, regardless, it's him and this other guy, and they both wake up on a golf course with their dicks in a Chinese finger trap, and they keep walking up to golfers and being like, you gotta help us, man, you gotta help us.
01:07:43
Speaker
Lil Rel.
01:07:44
Speaker
Yes.
01:07:44
Speaker
Oh, it was?
01:07:46
Speaker
Yeah, I think so.
01:07:47
Speaker
I actually think so.
01:07:48
Speaker
I could be wrong.
01:07:49
Speaker
I don't want to be wrong, Lil Rel.
01:07:50
Speaker
This is twice this episode.
01:07:51
Speaker
Hold on.
01:07:55
Speaker
This one is a fact I think you need to look up.
01:07:57
Speaker
Yeah, I would like to be correct.
01:07:59
Speaker
I just am trying to go through every person I know who is associated with Eric Andre.
01:08:02
Speaker
Yeah, Lil Rel Howard.
01:08:03
Speaker
How are you?
01:08:05
Speaker
Nice!
01:08:05
Speaker
He plays Bud Malone.
01:08:06
Speaker
But yeah, no, they have prosthetic dicks on too, so they pull apart and stretch them really far.
01:08:13
Speaker
It's really funny.
01:08:15
Speaker
That's a good bit.
01:08:16
Speaker
Like Michael Jordan's arm in Space Jam.
01:08:18
Speaker
Yeah.
01:08:19
Speaker
Like Michael Jordan's penis in Space Jam.
01:08:21
Speaker
Dude, one of the things I will say... Remember the scene where he fucks bugs?
01:08:24
Speaker
People are talking
01:08:26
Speaker
I will say, so this Fantastic Four movie that's coming out, no Fantastic Four movie has or will ever have the balls to talk about how Reed Richards, canonically, is too much dick game for Mrs. Fantastic.
01:08:40
Speaker
He literally can't handle it.
01:08:43
Speaker
He is so good at fucking because he's made of rubber that there's a comic panel where she's like, we have to take a break, Reed.
01:08:50
Speaker
I can't go anymore.
01:08:53
Speaker
Jeez.
01:08:53
Speaker
I would pay to see that movie with the mess of Cropi and Pedro Pascal.
01:08:57
Speaker
Come on.
01:08:58
Speaker
Nobody has the balls.
01:08:59
Speaker
Yeah, that would be fantastic.
01:09:01
Speaker
Do you guys think Pedro Pascal's got a hog on him?
01:09:04
Speaker
I kind of think he's got a little wee-wee.
01:09:06
Speaker
No, he's probably kind of average.
01:09:08
Speaker
I was going to say, I think he has an average.
01:09:10
Speaker
He's growing.
01:09:10
Speaker
I think he's growing.
01:09:12
Speaker
This is a hot take.
01:09:14
Speaker
I think that Glenn Powell probably has a small penis.
01:09:17
Speaker
Interesting.
01:09:17
Speaker
He's so tall.
01:09:18
Speaker
I think average.
01:09:20
Speaker
I think it is small in perspective of how tall he is.
01:09:26
Speaker
I think proportionally he has a small dick.
01:09:29
Speaker
It's like that episode of New Girl where Alan Richson plays a guy with a micropenis.
01:09:32
Speaker
Yes.
01:09:35
Speaker
But he's done a lot of roids now, so I do think he might actually have a pretty small dick.
01:09:39
Speaker
He might.
01:09:40
Speaker
But Glenn Powell, the thing is, now he's super thin because of Running Man, so it looks bigger.
01:09:44
Speaker
Yep.
01:09:46
Speaker
It's proportionally bigger.
01:09:47
Speaker
Exactly.
01:09:48
Speaker
I heard a take the other day that I kind of think I might be on board with.
01:09:51
Speaker
I think he might be because he's he's from the South.
01:09:54
Speaker
He's a Texas boy.
01:09:55
Speaker
There is a I would say a 60 percent chance he's Cary Grant style gay.
01:10:01
Speaker
Oh, interesting.
01:10:02
Speaker
Like he would just slang that thing to whoever.
01:10:06
Speaker
Glenn Powell?
01:10:07
Speaker
Yeah, I think he's like a Marlon Brando type of dude.
01:10:09
Speaker
Have you heard Lamorne Morris talking about every time they go on vacation, he doesn't get to hang out with Glenn Powell because he's off fucking a dozen girls?
01:10:18
Speaker
I had not heard that.
01:10:21
Speaker
It sounds like someone who is pretending not to be gay would also say that he's off fucking girls.
01:10:26
Speaker
No, he's talking about watching this shit happen on a boat.
01:10:30
Speaker
That's so fucking cool.
01:10:32
Speaker
What was I going to say?
01:10:34
Speaker
Oh, well, now apparently he's bedding down with one Sidney Sweeney.
01:10:38
Speaker
With Ms.
01:10:39
Speaker
Sweeney?
01:10:40
Speaker
God bless.
01:10:41
Speaker
I hope.
01:10:42
Speaker
There was a huge story about her.
01:10:44
Speaker
She's super friendly with his niece and nephew.
01:10:47
Speaker
They bonded on the Anyone But You set.
01:10:49
Speaker
And then they reunited at Glenn's sister's wedding.
01:10:53
Speaker
Jesus plus one to his sister's wedding.
01:10:55
Speaker
I will say, as much as I love them, I love those two together.
01:11:00
Speaker
If we reanimated Hitler and showed him Glenn Powell and Sidney Sweeney fucking, he would be like, thank God someone finally gets it.
01:11:12
Speaker
Yeah, but they're not thinking that.
01:11:14
Speaker
No, obviously, they're not Nazis, but I'm just saying Hitler would love them together.
01:11:18
Speaker
Yeah.
01:11:21
Speaker
Joe, your brain is such a thing of beauty.
01:11:23
Speaker
I love it so much.
01:11:24
Speaker
That might be a clip we have to put somewhere on the internet, and it's either going to make us a lot of money because people will flock to us or we will get canceled.
01:11:34
Speaker
Yeah.
New Movie Reviews & Celebrity Impressions
01:11:35
Speaker
But you saying Hitler would love to see Sidney Sweeney and Glenn Powell together is something.
01:11:42
Speaker
Speaking of Hitler, do you all think there's a moment in the new Steve Coogan Penguin movie where they learn about tariffs?
01:11:53
Speaker
No, that trailer is so funny to me.
01:11:59
Speaker
It's like that trailer and the trailer for The Ballad of Wallace Island, which I've seen 100 times.
01:12:04
Speaker
I've heard it's fun.
01:12:05
Speaker
I've heard it's okay.
01:12:06
Speaker
But it's that Carey Mulligan joint, Red.
01:12:08
Speaker
You're looking at me confused.
01:12:10
Speaker
No, sorry.
01:12:11
Speaker
I was not familiar with a penguin film.
01:12:15
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
01:12:16
Speaker
Is it called The Penguin Lesson?
01:12:17
Speaker
Is that what it's called?
01:12:19
Speaker
What the fuck?
01:12:20
Speaker
It's really about a teacher who has a penguin that follows him around.
01:12:23
Speaker
30 Rock joke.
01:12:24
Speaker
Yeah, it looks like I would rather watch The Rural Juror.
01:12:30
Speaker
If you told me Jenna Maroney plays the female lead in that movie, I would believe you.
01:12:35
Speaker
Guys, what happened to Jonathan Pryce?
01:12:37
Speaker
Motherfucker got nominated for an Oscar and then kind of just... He just wants to leave money.
01:12:42
Speaker
I think the worst part about the Penguin movie starring Steve Coogan is that it's a straight movie.
01:12:48
Speaker
It's not a comedy.
01:12:49
Speaker
It's like a drama.
01:12:52
Speaker
It's like a feel-good drama.
01:12:54
Speaker
There's a movie coming out with Bill Murray and a dog or something.
01:12:57
Speaker
Oh, yeah, with that.
01:12:58
Speaker
It's like him and Naomi Watts and a great Dane.
01:13:01
Speaker
I love Naomi Watts.
01:13:02
Speaker
It's not Marmaduke.
01:13:05
Speaker
We love Naomi Watts, don't we, folks?
01:13:07
Speaker
We love Marmaduke, folks, don't we?
01:13:10
Speaker
As soon as Joe said the word Hitler, I was like, how close are we getting to Trump?
01:13:13
Speaker
When's it coming?
01:13:14
Speaker
Well, Trump's already at Hitler or so.
01:13:17
Speaker
I've learned recently that to complete the Trump impression, you can't not do the breath sucking.
01:13:22
Speaker
That's a really big part of it.
01:13:24
Speaker
You gotta go, and the dancing is obviously really important.
01:13:28
Speaker
But it's like, Marmaduke, everyone's talking about Clifford.
01:13:34
Speaker
Clifford the Big Red Dog.
01:13:37
Speaker
But I like Marmaduke.
01:13:39
Speaker
He's a much better dog.
01:13:41
Speaker
He's a much better dog.
01:13:42
Speaker
He's a much better dog.
01:13:44
Speaker
I just think the breath sucking is very important.
01:13:46
Speaker
Is it not?
01:13:47
Speaker
I know it's Naomi Watts because she keeps doing press runs.
01:13:49
Speaker
I think it's called The Friend or The Pal or some shit like that.
01:13:52
Speaker
It's called The Friend.
01:13:53
Speaker
It was also the Bill Murray, Pete Davidson movie.
01:13:55
Speaker
Yeah, Riff Raff, which looks fairly bad.
01:13:58
Speaker
I just want to blow up and act like I don't know nobody.
01:14:04
Speaker
It did make Bill Murray go on Hot Ones and Pete Davidson came out on his last dab and did it with him, which was very sweet.
01:14:10
Speaker
Cute.
01:14:10
Speaker
I like that.
01:14:11
Speaker
Yo, quickly, before we get to highs and lows, I know me and Zach did.
01:14:15
Speaker
Has anybody else watched Everybody's Live from last night?
01:14:17
Speaker
Nuh-uh.
01:14:18
Speaker
No, I'm not caught up at all.
01:14:19
Speaker
I only saw the first episode.
01:14:21
Speaker
Just watch last night first.
01:14:22
Speaker
It's an absolute masterpiece.
01:14:25
Speaker
It is a fascinating...
01:14:27
Speaker
Social experiment.
01:14:29
Speaker
Yeah.
01:14:30
Speaker
It's incredible.
01:14:31
Speaker
Only John Mulaney could make a talk show that Zach describes as a social experiment.
01:14:35
Speaker
It is a social experiment.
01:14:36
Speaker
It's not a talk show.
01:14:38
Speaker
Yeah.
01:14:38
Speaker
He doesn't ask.
01:14:40
Speaker
There's nothing formatted about it.
01:14:42
Speaker
What kind of car do you drive?
01:14:43
Speaker
Yeah, that's his only question.
01:14:44
Speaker
Like I said, I'm fully convinced his monologue was like a meta take on the Cory Booker speech.
01:14:52
Speaker
It was never referenced again, and I think you're right.
01:14:54
Speaker
They should let Adrian Brody do a 24-hour Oscar speech next year.
01:14:57
Speaker
Basically, his whole opening monologue, which was like six minutes long.
01:15:04
Speaker
No, it was ten minutes.
01:15:05
Speaker
It was ten minutes.
01:15:06
Speaker
Thank God.
01:15:06
Speaker
It was about a bit that he had tried to plan with the band Bone Thugs-In-Harmony.
John Mulaney's Show & Comedic Highlights
01:15:13
Speaker
Oh, I saw part of this.
01:15:14
Speaker
Yeah.
01:15:15
Speaker
And so and basically like this whole saga he went on with trying to book them on the show and then like finding out the person he was in touch with was not their manager.
01:15:24
Speaker
He talks to the camera about this for 10 minutes.
01:15:27
Speaker
10 solid minutes in the place where this bit was supposed to have been.
01:15:32
Speaker
He just tells this.
01:15:33
Speaker
They were like, we're not going to be able to get him.
01:15:35
Speaker
And he's like, OK, I'll just tell the story to fill the time.
01:15:38
Speaker
Yeah, and it works so well.
01:15:40
Speaker
It's fantastic.
01:15:41
Speaker
Amazing.
01:15:42
Speaker
And again.
01:15:44
Speaker
Then he ends the show with Vivaldi.
01:15:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's like a new music work show that's playing Vivaldi.
01:15:50
Speaker
And then having John Waters sat next to Stavros Halkius and them just nerding out about the city of Baltimore is fucking incredible.
01:15:59
Speaker
It's like the best thing I've seen this year.
01:16:01
Speaker
It's kind of crazy.
01:16:03
Speaker
Yeah, Wanda Sykes is like, the fuck are you guys talking about?
01:16:06
Speaker
Yeah.
01:16:07
Speaker
I do want to say this because it's a part of my history.
01:16:12
Speaker
How the fuck did Stavros come out of Cometown the cleanest?
01:16:17
Speaker
It's crazy.
01:16:19
Speaker
How was he the one that came out and was like, okay, I'm going to be on TV and no one's going to dig up anything about me?
01:16:25
Speaker
Because all of his dirt is just him being a horny fat guy.
01:16:29
Speaker
Yeah.
01:16:29
Speaker
I guess.
01:16:30
Speaker
Yeah.
01:16:31
Speaker
No, no, he's with them in the podcast doing the racist shit that everyone else would cancel the other two for.
01:16:39
Speaker
Yeah, but he's mostly just giggling.
01:16:41
Speaker
Yeah, and now he's like openly liberal and out here.
01:16:44
Speaker
Well, the thing is, is that all of them are.
01:16:45
Speaker
They just think it's funny to not be.
01:16:48
Speaker
Yeah, which relatable, but...
01:16:51
Speaker
I think he's just the most charming of them.
01:16:54
Speaker
Yeah, I was going to say in reality, it's really probably just because he's the least self-serious.
Podcast Evolution & Paul Schrader's Online Presence
01:16:58
Speaker
We are 46 episodes into this show, and this is the first time that Joe has given a heated defense over the members of Cumbtown.
01:17:08
Speaker
Very surprising it took 46 episodes.
01:17:11
Speaker
Listen, the phase of my life when I was listening to Cumbtown, I was a worse person than I am today.
01:17:17
Speaker
But I do think that they have all evolved in quite a nice way.
01:17:22
Speaker
And Stavi has, you know, a fantastic podcast.
01:17:25
Speaker
I think several of the Adam Friedland show interviews are some of my favorite interviews of all time.
01:17:29
Speaker
You like the Schrader one?
01:17:31
Speaker
The Schrader one was great.
01:17:32
Speaker
It's very funny.
01:17:33
Speaker
He asks Schrader if Jesus was gay.
01:17:36
Speaker
And Schrader's like, probably, I don't know.
01:17:37
Speaker
Yeah.
01:17:39
Speaker
No, it's probably, I don't know.
01:17:41
Speaker
Yeah, I was about to say, Schrader and RFK Jr. having an awful voice-off.
01:17:47
Speaker
Yeah.
01:17:48
Speaker
Did we do a Paul Schrader's Facebook page episode?
01:17:51
Speaker
Oh, that's a great idea.
01:17:55
Speaker
You know what?
01:17:57
Speaker
I'm just going to read the first three posts on his page.
01:18:00
Speaker
His last one was about AI.
01:18:01
Speaker
I remember seeing it.
01:18:03
Speaker
Let's try to find the differences between Nick Nolte and Paul Schrader's voices.
01:18:06
Speaker
Okay?
01:18:07
Speaker
So, Paul Schrader is like, no, that's like Yoda.
01:18:12
Speaker
Sorry.
01:18:13
Speaker
Paul Schrader directing be like, don't.
01:18:17
Speaker
I can't do it.
01:18:19
Speaker
Fuck, why can't I do Yoda?
01:18:22
Speaker
I was homeschooled.
01:18:24
Speaker
Go to your mark, she said.
01:18:25
Speaker
Mark Simpson.
01:18:28
Speaker
I've got three bangers for Pauly.
01:18:32
Speaker
Please.
01:18:33
Speaker
I'm going to start actually the furthest away.
01:18:36
Speaker
This is two days ago.
01:18:37
Speaker
Okay.
01:18:38
Speaker
All caps.
01:18:39
Speaker
AI has crossed the visual threshold.
01:18:41
Speaker
Back to normal capitalization.
01:18:43
Speaker
After location scouting in Kansas City, Missouri, my assistant Josh made this request of chat GPT.
01:18:50
Speaker
The image in question.
01:18:52
Speaker
A screenshot from an iPhone of the ChatGPT app.
01:18:55
Speaker
Can you please do photorealistic image imagining present-day film director Paul Schrader and his assistant, a young thin man in his early 30s with dark long hair, glasses, and prominent arm tattoos, enjoying the notable landmarks of Missouri.
01:19:10
Speaker
And this is the photo.
01:19:13
Speaker
I don't know if you guys can see it.
01:19:14
Speaker
I'll turn my brightness down.
01:19:15
Speaker
Let me see if that helps.
01:19:15
Speaker
Fantastic.
01:19:22
Speaker
I mean, it looks like Paul Schrader.
01:19:23
Speaker
It does.
01:19:23
Speaker
It does.
01:19:24
Speaker
Here's the next one.
01:19:26
Speaker
These boys are really going to like this one.
01:19:28
Speaker
All caps.
01:19:29
Speaker
REACHER.
01:19:30
Speaker
Back to standard capitalization.
01:19:32
Speaker
I'm a fan.
01:19:33
Speaker
I'm a fan on the Lee Child's Reacher books because I like the main character and the rhythm of 80% talk, 20% explosive action.
01:19:42
Speaker
The movies got it wrong by casting Tom Cruise as the 240-pound slab of beef Jack Reacher is.
01:19:50
Speaker
At least Amazon Prime corrected that by casting Alan Richson.
01:19:53
Speaker
But as the seasons go on, I've noticed a perceptible shift in the Amazon series.
01:19:57
Speaker
The finale to season three was 20% talk and 80% explosive action.
01:20:02
Speaker
That's not even true.
01:20:05
Speaker
You can't argue with Schrader.
01:20:06
Speaker
He might have fallen asleep.
01:20:09
Speaker
The finale is where you finally get the big guy fight.
01:20:13
Speaker
I love that.
01:20:15
Speaker
His most recent one, yesterday.
01:20:18
Speaker
All capitalization.
01:20:19
Speaker
Saving Private Ryan.
01:20:21
Speaker
Okay.
01:20:21
Speaker
Back to normal capitalization.
01:20:24
Speaker
25 years, period.
01:20:25
Speaker
Just rewatched, period.
01:20:27
Speaker
It has stood the test of time, period.
01:20:29
Speaker
I think it's Steven's best, period.
01:20:31
Speaker
Oh, thanks, bro.
01:20:33
Speaker
That's an interesting perspective.
01:20:34
Speaker
I'm glad to know what his favorite Spielberg is.
01:20:37
Speaker
Or the one he thinks is best, I suppose.
01:20:40
Speaker
It's always an interesting litmus test.
01:20:42
Speaker
It's like, where do you go with Spielberg?
01:20:44
Speaker
You know?
01:20:44
Speaker
It's always fascinating.
01:20:46
Speaker
BFG.
01:20:47
Speaker
Ready Player One?
01:20:50
Speaker
The Terminal.
01:20:51
Speaker
I'm a Terminal guy.
01:20:52
Speaker
I'm not a Ready Player One guy.
01:20:53
Speaker
I think that movie kind of stinks.
01:20:54
Speaker
I have a terminal illness.
01:20:57
Speaker
I love terminal.
01:20:57
Speaker
It kind of sucks dog piss.
01:20:59
Speaker
I'm sorry.
01:20:59
Speaker
I'm more of a defender of Ready Player One just from its airplane movie-ness.
01:21:04
Speaker
It keeps me entertained.
01:21:05
Speaker
I still haven't seen it.
01:21:06
Speaker
I read the book.
01:21:07
Speaker
I like the book.
01:21:08
Speaker
It sucks dog piss, too.
01:21:09
Speaker
Yeah.
01:21:10
Speaker
I haven't seen the BFG.
01:21:12
Speaker
They do have a Gundam fighting Godzilla in this movie, and that was kind of cool.
01:21:16
Speaker
They made the Iron Giant fight, and he is not a weapon.
01:21:19
Speaker
No guns.
01:21:19
Speaker
Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
01:21:21
Speaker
I will come to the defense of that point.
01:21:23
Speaker
This movie is about stupid fucking gamers are in this universe, and 100% a stupid fucking gamer in an online VR game would be like, oh, I love the Iron Giant, and then make it his skin in a battle game.
Modern Critiques & Absurd Suggestions
01:21:37
Speaker
Steven Spielberg should understand the intention of Brad Bird and honor it I'm gonna write a was it the Atlantic or the New Yorker piece where they talked about Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross and they were like it's kind of troubling that Kieran Culkin uses the F slur and he uses the R slur and it's like dog I don't think anyone wants Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross to be woked up well also I don't think
01:22:07
Speaker
These people realize that Glen Gary Glen Ross is a work of fiction about people that don't exist.
01:22:14
Speaker
They suck.
01:22:14
Speaker
And they suck.
01:22:15
Speaker
They suck.
01:22:16
Speaker
They are horrible people.
01:22:17
Speaker
What about if we change it to Glen Harry Glen Penis?
01:22:20
Speaker
There we go.
01:22:21
Speaker
Now that, I'd buy a ticket to.
01:22:24
Speaker
My friends saw the production.
01:22:25
Speaker
It was still in previews, but they saw it.
01:22:26
Speaker
And they said they cut the play way down.
01:22:29
Speaker
And the first act is just a Ricky Roma monologue.
01:22:34
Speaker
And I was like, that's a dumb choice.
01:22:37
Speaker
Like, who wants less David Mamet dialogue?
01:22:40
Speaker
What are you talking about?
01:22:41
Speaker
Glenn woke, Glenn pro-mount, pronouns.
01:22:44
Speaker
Pro-mounds.
01:22:44
Speaker
Glenn woke, Glenn pro-mounds.
01:22:47
Speaker
Yeah, there you go.
01:22:50
Speaker
i mean there's literally one of my favorite moments in that movie the glenn gary gillemars movie is when towards the end uh rome is getting onto williamson he's like i'm gonna have your job you idiot you stupid fucking cunt you idiot it's so good but like you can't say that shit you know and that's that's like no people are saying 10 degrees people are saying cunts more often now than they have ever said it but not like that
01:23:15
Speaker
Yeah, you can serve cunt with that amount of vitriol.
01:23:19
Speaker
Yeah, you can't call somebody.
01:23:20
Speaker
I feel like I heard someone say cunt as an insult on TV like the other day.
01:23:24
Speaker
What kind of TV are you watching, young man?
01:23:27
Speaker
It would make sense on like Gemstones.
01:23:28
Speaker
I was going to say, I think it was Gemstones.
01:23:30
Speaker
Yeah.
01:23:31
Speaker
I'll admit my go-to road rage.
01:23:34
Speaker
I don't know what to call it.
01:23:36
Speaker
It's just a silly cunt.
01:23:38
Speaker
Yeah.
01:23:39
Speaker
You're right, silly cunt.
01:23:40
Speaker
Yeah, you're right.
01:23:41
Speaker
No, mine is you dumb fucking cunt.
01:23:45
Speaker
You idiot.
01:23:46
Speaker
You idiot.
01:23:47
Speaker
That's the thing, too, is he's like, he's spitting in Kevin Spacey's face as he says it, too.
01:23:52
Speaker
And he should do it.
01:23:53
Speaker
And he should be.
01:23:54
Speaker
Yes.
01:23:54
Speaker
He should be.
01:23:56
Speaker
Yes.
01:23:57
Speaker
hell yeah is making a statement right now and we're anti kevin spacey we know we've worked with him in the past yeah it was a mistake deleted those episodes it was a mistake obviously we are trying to rectify we've reached out to all the victims don't don't say uh anything with the word the prefix wrecked in it in front of kevin spacey
01:24:19
Speaker
We are trying to get Guy Pearce in the podcast.
01:24:24
Speaker
We have since canceled the George Bush episode that we had coming.
01:24:29
Speaker
We knew him from his golf and his paintings.
01:24:31
Speaker
We did not know he did all those old times.
01:24:32
Speaker
We only wanted to talk paintings, and then people started saying things about Iraq, and we were like, what?
01:24:38
Speaker
This is a pro-Palestine podcast.
01:24:39
Speaker
I don't know what happened.
01:24:40
Speaker
Come on.
01:24:41
Speaker
Who's to say?
01:24:42
Speaker
Truly.
01:24:42
Speaker
Truly.
01:24:43
Speaker
We found Saddam, actually, and he's going to be on next week.
01:24:49
Speaker
Talk about a guy on the right side of history.
01:24:50
Speaker
It's Saddam and Jimmy Hoffa.
01:24:56
Speaker
It's Saddam and Jimmy Hoffa.
01:24:59
Speaker
Saddam at Benny Hanna and Toby Hanna.
01:25:03
Speaker
We found Saddam.
01:25:05
Speaker
He was at a Benny Hanna.
01:25:07
Speaker
He was with Gerard Butler.
01:25:08
Speaker
He was with Gerard Butler at Benny Hanna.
01:25:13
Speaker
Toby Hanna, man.
01:25:14
Speaker
What a place.
01:25:17
Speaker
Toby Hanna.
01:25:18
Speaker
I just lost.
01:25:21
Speaker
Zach and I kept trying to lob it up to you, Joe.
01:25:24
Speaker
We were trying so hard to get you to bite.
01:25:27
Speaker
Toby Hanna.
01:25:31
Speaker
Banger.
01:25:32
Speaker
I'm a superhero, but I only kill teachers.
01:25:38
Speaker
What a great film.
01:25:39
Speaker
The Bukkake with Benghazi.
01:25:42
Speaker
I do a Bukkake all over Benghazi, all over the Illuminati.
01:25:48
Speaker
The part where Conor O'Malley spits a freestyle for his ex-wife is maybe one of my favorite parts of the movie.
01:25:53
Speaker
He's like, fine dimes, fine dimes, go to fine dives.
01:26:00
Speaker
Oh, God.
01:26:01
Speaker
You know that movie is effective because you're retelling it and I'm crying laughing.
01:26:05
Speaker
Yeah.
01:26:07
Speaker
Joseph, how many times now?
01:26:09
Speaker
I think I'm at six.
01:26:10
Speaker
Fantastic.
01:26:12
Speaker
I should fire it up again.
01:26:13
Speaker
I might re-watch it again tonight now.
01:26:19
Speaker
Joe Hayes, this only says you've logged it three times.
01:26:25
Speaker
He's not re-logging every time.
01:26:26
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At a certain point, I'm not re-logging it.
01:26:28
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I was about to say I've watched Hot Rod probably three times this year and not logged in a single one of those times.
01:26:36
Speaker
I get it.
01:26:37
Speaker
You don't want that repetition on the record.
01:26:39
Speaker
I'm sorry, not Austin.
01:26:40
Speaker
Zach's most recent review of Rap World is just 1206 a.n.
01:26:43
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I'm not an order.
01:26:45
Speaker
I don't even do that.
01:26:46
Speaker
Damn it.
01:26:58
Speaker
I need some mystic sauce in my life.
01:27:03
Speaker
You get me a McFish?
01:27:08
Speaker
You all ready for highs and
Highs and Lows: Recent Media Critiques
01:27:10
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lows?
01:27:10
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Oh, the Akira Kurosawa high and low.
01:27:13
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This is everyone's favorite part of the show because we get to celebrate and deride some media that we have consumed in the last week.
01:27:20
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And in fact, it is going to be the last week.
01:27:22
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It has been seven days since we last recorded.
01:27:24
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We're back at it, baby.
01:27:27
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Is anyone feeling spicy?
01:27:28
Speaker
Anyone want to go first?
01:27:29
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Yeah, I got a low that's going to piss everybody off.
01:27:32
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Oh, you go.
01:27:33
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I'm ready for that.
01:27:33
Speaker
Mine might too, actually.
01:27:35
Speaker
I fucking hated the monkey.
01:27:39
Speaker
Everyone else on this podcast liked this fucking stupid bitch movie.
01:27:44
Speaker
I would like you to unpack that a little bit more.
01:27:46
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Yeah, let's talk about it.
01:27:47
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Okay, first of all, every single kill thought it was way cooler than it was.
01:27:53
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Okay.
01:27:54
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A lot of them were pretty cool, though.
01:27:57
Speaker
Almost none of them were that cool considering the movies that it's like ripping off.
01:28:01
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Dude, a girl jumps in a pool and explodes.
01:28:04
Speaker
Explodes?
01:28:04
Speaker
Yeah, but they don't even take time to... And her leg flies off.
01:28:07
Speaker
There's no... It's shot so boring.
01:28:10
Speaker
It's not fun to watch.
01:28:12
Speaker
Every single kill is a cool idea that sucks to watch.
01:28:16
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I disagree.
01:28:17
Speaker
I liked them.
01:28:17
Speaker
It's like Osgood Perkins is like... When Adam Scott gets shot with the thing.
01:28:22
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Yeah, but he goes, perhaps it's a Dutch angle.
01:28:26
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I'm going to be honest.
01:28:27
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It worked, man.
01:28:28
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I don't know.
01:28:28
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I liked it.
01:28:28
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I was kind of like, I don't know.
01:28:31
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It started and I was like, eh.
01:28:40
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Adam Scott's cool, I guess.
01:28:43
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I like the... I don't know.
01:28:45
Speaker
It's fine.
01:28:47
Speaker
And then as soon as they get to the fucking scene where they're at the funeral for the babysitter and the priest comes out and is like, oh, fuck.
01:28:56
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I was like...
01:28:57
Speaker
What does Osgood Perkins know how church works?
01:29:03
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There's no, but there's no suspension of disbelief.
01:29:06
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Like I just like, what the fuck?
01:29:08
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They're at a fucking funeral.
01:29:09
Speaker
Why is the priest high as shit?
01:29:12
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It's a joke.
01:29:13
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It's not a funny joke.
01:29:19
Speaker
I didn't think that I didn't think that any of the funeral jokes worked, but I just decided to go against It's good because we need to yell at each other more we don't have we have a lack of conflict here, but also The plot is so fucking stupid.
01:29:35
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It's it's
01:29:37
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It's a Stephen King plot.
01:29:39
Speaker
What do you want?
01:29:40
Speaker
That's how his short stories are.
01:29:42
Speaker
Exactly.
01:29:43
Speaker
And you do what Lawnmower Man and The Shining do, where you take the parts that are cool and you get rid of all the chaff.
01:29:50
Speaker
You didn't like when she skydives at the end and falls in the window?
01:29:56
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No, because there's nothing about that that was interesting.
01:30:00
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I need you to tell me what the cool parts in the story of the monkey are.
01:30:07
Speaker
Yeah, what should he have kept?
01:30:10
Speaker
Okay, killer monkey that makes Final Destination kills happen is a great idea.
01:30:17
Speaker
Everything else about the plot sucked donkey dick.
01:30:22
Speaker
Who that they're the fucking like the whole bit of like the monkey.
01:30:28
Speaker
It's just like life.
01:30:30
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You can't choose who dies.
01:30:32
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I don't give a fucking shit about that.
01:30:34
Speaker
The idea of Oz Perkins making a funny parody movie in honor of his dad through the plot that he added in there did nothing for you because it did nothing emotionally worked about it.
01:30:47
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Their mom was so... Every single character in the movie I could not give less of a fuck about.
01:30:54
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There's no characterization.
01:30:55
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I mean, same.
01:30:56
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Yeah, but like... I'll tell you what I like about the movie.
01:31:01
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I like how funny he finds death.
01:31:05
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Yes.
01:31:05
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Like I like his sensibility around his sense of humor around death.
01:31:10
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Like I find that very refreshing.
01:31:12
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Now I agree with you.
01:31:14
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It could be done better.
01:31:15
Speaker
Like people have done similar things better in the past.
01:31:17
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I'm not going to argue that point, but sitting in a theater, just watching this sort of parade of kills, um,
01:31:24
Speaker
that I agree with you doesn't hold together super well.
01:31:26
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I was just very entertained.
01:31:27
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Like, I just had a good time.
01:31:28
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I laughed a lot.
01:31:29
Speaker
I guess maybe I should have saw it in the theater.
01:31:31
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I don't know if it would change your perspective.
01:31:33
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I'm just telling you where I come from.
01:31:37
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I wasn't entertained for a single moment.
01:31:39
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I was bored for the whole... And I'm thinking, like, if you want to watch a gonzo parade of kills...
01:31:46
Speaker
Throw on like fucking pieces, like so throw on something fucking weird, you know, like something that's funny because the like the people behind it are like, I don't know, can can tell a joke in a way that's discernible as a joke.
01:32:02
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Osgood Perkins, I think, has the sense of humor of like a cardboard box.
01:32:07
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Okay, here's the question that actually matters to me.
01:32:09
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I disagree.
01:32:10
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Because I actually don't like the reasons why you don't like it, but it's not like a movie I thought was a masterpiece and wanted to defend tooth and nail.
01:32:18
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But the question I do think is an important one is, do you think this is the correct directional departure from Longlegs for him?
01:32:27
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I think that it should have been.
01:32:29
Speaker
I was so ready to like it.
01:32:32
Speaker
It's the same thing with Long Legs.
01:32:34
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I went into both of these movies going, I think I'm going to fucking love this.
01:32:39
Speaker
And then I came out going, I think this guy might be a fucking dumbass.
01:32:44
Speaker
He's just like, he's like soapy cilantro to you.
01:32:47
Speaker
It's like, you can't, which like we all have those people, but he's like soapy titties to me.
01:32:53
Speaker
I actually think those people deserve the death penalty, but I think that Oz Perkins, here's what, here's what I'll say.
01:33:00
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I think they should keep letting him make movies, but that one of the executives at neon should delete final draft off of his computer.
01:33:10
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Okay, you don't like his writing.
01:33:11
Speaker
I think he might be the worst working writer right now.
01:33:15
Speaker
Okay.
01:33:16
Speaker
I don't think he's a particularly great writer at all.
01:33:19
Speaker
I genuinely think the two things, like the things that make long legs not work and the things that make the monkey not work is the same thing.
01:33:27
Speaker
It's the fucking dog-ass script written by a guy who heard a funny joke and thought...
01:33:35
Speaker
Hmm.
01:33:36
Speaker
Comedy is an interesting thing.
01:33:38
Speaker
You are.
01:33:39
Speaker
You do know that Gil Keenan and Jason Reitman are working right now, right?
01:33:42
Speaker
Like, yeah, there's some other bad writers.
01:33:45
Speaker
Jason Reitman wrote fucking Saturday night.
01:33:48
Speaker
And I and I think that movie is good.
01:33:51
Speaker
Saturday night is people soy jacking at the screen being like, oh my god, dude!
01:33:55
Speaker
I would have rather had that.
01:33:57
Speaker
I would have rather had someone soy jacking about fucking nostalgic ass slasher movie kills more than this fucking dog ass.
01:34:06
Speaker
Reitman's the most derivative shit writer.
01:34:08
Speaker
So is Osgood Perkins!
01:34:10
Speaker
I'm not arguing that.
01:34:12
Speaker
I didn't say anything about what Osgood Perkins is.
01:34:14
Speaker
I'm just like, Reitman's been doing that for 20 years.
01:34:17
Speaker
His only good movies are ones that he didn't write.
01:34:22
Speaker
where the lady jumped in the pool and exploded I so ejected the best kill in this movie was a off like a barely seen gag from far away where a school bus of children is mowed in half by a passing semi truck yeah I thought everything cool that happens in this movie is not the part that they highlighted okay
01:34:47
Speaker
Fair enough.
01:34:48
Speaker
I'm kind of a mosaic.
01:34:49
Speaker
I don't really care to argue it more.
01:34:50
Speaker
Hold on.
01:34:50
Speaker
This is my last thing, I will say.
01:34:52
Speaker
And I'll move on to my high.
01:34:54
Speaker
The reason why this movie doesn't work...
01:34:57
Speaker
is the same reason why Final Destination as, like, the good Final Destinations.
01:35:02
Speaker
There's some shitty ones of those.
01:35:04
Speaker
But the reason why Final Destination works and why this one doesn't is because the goofy-ass kills in Final Destination, they take so long and have so many bait-and-switches where you're like, oh, is that going to be the thing that kills them?
01:35:16
Speaker
Like, you're just waiting.
01:35:17
Speaker
Because this is a movie that is formulated around these kills.
01:35:21
Speaker
Like that's the whole movie basically.
01:35:22
Speaker
The plot doesn't hold together or whatever.
01:35:24
Speaker
It's like, okay, it's getting from kill to kill in the most efficient way possible and that's fine.
01:35:29
Speaker
But in Final Destination, they play with that and they take fucking forever and like snake you along this course.
01:35:36
Speaker
And then by the time they get to the kill, you're like, I did not think that that was how it was going to fucking go down.
01:35:41
Speaker
Every single time a kill happens in this movie, I was like, okay, the pool is going to get electrocuted and she's going to dive in.
01:35:47
Speaker
Great.
01:35:48
Speaker
But then it's fun.
01:35:49
Speaker
You don't know she's going to explode.
01:35:51
Speaker
Yeah, he sets up the dominoes to fall down.
01:35:54
Speaker
Okay, yeah.
01:35:56
Speaker
I'm just going to watch Looney Tunes.
01:35:57
Speaker
Okay.
01:35:58
Speaker
Yeah.
01:35:58
Speaker
I love Looney Tunes.
01:35:59
Speaker
Great.
01:36:00
Speaker
Looney Tunes.
01:36:01
Speaker
Both can be good.
01:36:02
Speaker
One can be better than the other.
Indie Cinema & Unique Storytelling
01:36:04
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My high of the week was Harmony Corrine's feature.
01:36:09
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This is my second Harmony Corrine movie, but this one is not controversial.
01:36:14
Speaker
This one is universally beloved.
01:36:15
Speaker
It's his 1999 Dogma 95 film called Julian Donkey Boy.
01:36:22
Speaker
It truly is one of the most heartbreaking pieces of indie cinema I've ever seen in my life.
01:36:28
Speaker
It is so intimately constructed.
01:36:32
Speaker
The performances are all so gentle.
01:36:37
Speaker
Everyone in this movie is...
01:36:40
Speaker
is giving performances that I think some actors would only ever hope to achieve.
01:36:46
Speaker
It's got Chloe Sevigny, Werner Herzog.
01:36:49
Speaker
The dude who plays Spud in Trainspotting plays Julian.
01:36:54
Speaker
And he plays this guy who has schizoaffective disorder.
01:36:57
Speaker
And it's one of the most, like, it's a portrayal of a schizophrenic person that doesn't paint them as someone to be feared.
01:37:07
Speaker
And it's just someone who has, you know, a hard life because of something that they couldn't control.
01:37:13
Speaker
And it's really beautiful.
01:37:15
Speaker
And it's really interesting to think that Harmony Corrine came from this and Gummo, which both feel like Malick-y in a way, but it's like Malick was raised in a trailer park and the people that he would... And the things that he was wrestling with weren't God, but were poverty.
01:37:31
Speaker
And then to go from that into like aggro drift and baby invasion...
01:37:37
Speaker
It's crazy.
01:37:37
Speaker
You can tell they're cut from the same cloth, but this movie, I think that you all would love this movie.
01:37:43
Speaker
And it's on Criterion right now with their Dogma 95 retrospective, which also Thomas Vinterberg's The Celebration is on there.
01:37:53
Speaker
And if you haven't seen that one, that is a must watch.
01:37:56
Speaker
Okay.
01:37:57
Speaker
Love it.
01:37:58
Speaker
Zach.
01:38:00
Speaker
Yes, sir.
01:38:01
Speaker
Well, I rewatched all three Rush Hour movies this week.
01:38:06
Speaker
So that's probably my... I had fun, but objectively, those are the worst movies I've seen as a reason.
01:38:13
Speaker
Specifically, the second one.
01:38:16
Speaker
The third one came out the same year as Ocean's Eleven and just has some fun casino stuff, coincidentally.
01:38:25
Speaker
Have you seen the Rush Hour 2 blooper where someone falls out of a window and he goes, he's not going to be in Rush Hour 3.
01:38:31
Speaker
No, I haven't.
01:38:34
Speaker
I love the bloopers where Tucker just cannot stop calling Jackie Chan Jackie in the scene.
01:38:39
Speaker
Yeah, it's really cool.
01:38:41
Speaker
Yeah.
01:38:43
Speaker
It's why like 90% of everybody's Chris Tucker impression is just him saying Jackie.
01:38:50
Speaker
I don't know if I had, I don't think I have honorable mentions this week, but my high is Luca Guadagnino's Queer.
01:38:59
Speaker
Yes.
01:39:00
Speaker
Fuck yeah.
01:39:02
Speaker
So good.
01:39:03
Speaker
The first act is exactly what you expected the movie to be.
01:39:08
Speaker
And then it does other things.
01:39:10
Speaker
And I'll leave it at that.
01:39:11
Speaker
I would love to talk more about this movie, but I need people to watch it.
01:39:16
Speaker
Daniel Craig in this movie is so fucking good.
01:39:19
Speaker
Yeah.
01:39:20
Speaker
Genuinely.
01:39:21
Speaker
Incredible performance.
01:39:22
Speaker
Andrew Starkey.
01:39:25
Speaker
this will only like mean something to like the four of us but andrew starkey's character and this looks so much like jd beard he does so much that like subtle swoleness you know that sort of country boy thing jd beard could rock a fucking like 1940s ass swimsuit
01:39:47
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
01:39:48
Speaker
That's right.
01:39:49
Speaker
I think if I were to choose any place I could live in time and location, it's 1950s Mexico City.
01:39:56
Speaker
Really easy access to opioids.
01:39:59
Speaker
Yeah, exactly.
01:40:01
Speaker
That's the only reason.
01:40:05
Speaker
But yeah, I guess a couple more things I'll say about Queer.
01:40:08
Speaker
It's... I mean, first of all, it's a Reznor-Ross score, but the other things they do with music are carrying.
01:40:17
Speaker
Like, Reznor and Ross are great, but honestly, the other music choices are dope.
01:40:21
Speaker
The needle drops in this movie is incredible.
01:40:22
Speaker
You go from like a Nirvana needle drop to La Maliguin.
01:40:29
Speaker
I forget exactly the title, but it's like a classic Mexican corrido.
01:40:34
Speaker
It's just faintly playing in the background.
01:40:37
Speaker
It's not even fully into the speakers.
01:40:40
Speaker
But yeah, stylistically really cool.
01:40:43
Speaker
It's got that fucking New Order needle drop.
01:40:45
Speaker
Yeah.
01:40:47
Speaker
Super well shot, well thought out, very fucking weird.
01:40:51
Speaker
It's super surreal.
01:40:53
Speaker
Yeah.
01:40:53
Speaker
It's very strange.
01:40:55
Speaker
It's the same surrealness that he was using in Challengers, but instead of it being hype, it's really trippy.
01:41:02
Speaker
It's got a lot more in common with his Suspiria remake than I would expect.
01:41:07
Speaker
It has the most in common with Suspiria.
01:41:09
Speaker
Yeah.
01:41:10
Speaker
Yeah.
01:41:12
Speaker
Absolutely.
01:41:13
Speaker
Let's go red.
01:41:16
Speaker
Okay.
Horror Movies & Performance Highlights
01:41:19
Speaker
My low is all of politics right now.
01:41:26
Speaker
Also, I work in the apparel industry.
01:41:29
Speaker
and Austin works in the coffee industry.
01:41:32
Speaker
Tariffs, not good.
01:41:34
Speaker
Not good.
01:41:35
Speaker
Not good for me.
01:41:36
Speaker
I think he's going to push you out going back, but I think so too.
01:41:38
Speaker
It's too late actually.
01:41:40
Speaker
It doesn't matter.
01:41:42
Speaker
The stocks are... We could go into a bleak, very serious conversation, but it is too late.
01:41:48
Speaker
Damn.
01:41:48
Speaker
We're fucked.
01:41:49
Speaker
Good times.
01:41:50
Speaker
We've been fucked since Jump Street, man.
01:41:54
Speaker
Hell yeah.
01:41:55
Speaker
Hell yeah.
01:41:56
Speaker
If I was going to do something that I watched...
01:42:01
Speaker
I would say my low is probably House of a Thousand Corpses.
01:42:04
Speaker
Okay.
01:42:05
Speaker
I'm a zombie guy.
01:42:07
Speaker
I really like Rob Zombie, but I found it to be... It really got there for me in the final third.
01:42:16
Speaker
And I thought what they were doing in the very beginning was interesting.
01:42:19
Speaker
But like for a movie that's like 85 minutes or whatever it is, 89 minutes, there was a part in the middle where it felt like it dragged just because it felt like the plot didn't do anything for me.
01:42:32
Speaker
Have you seen The Devil's Rejects yet?
01:42:34
Speaker
No.
01:42:35
Speaker
I think that if you really liked the last third of House of a Thousand Corpses, Devil's Rejects is like he made it for you.
01:42:42
Speaker
Hell yeah.
01:42:44
Speaker
Yeah, I'd agree with that.
01:42:47
Speaker
I'm going to do an honorable mention.
01:42:49
Speaker
Hiya, the television show.
01:42:50
Speaker
We're finally catching up on Severance.
01:42:52
Speaker
We finished season one, and that shit fucking ripped.
01:42:57
Speaker
Another honorable mention in terms of a film, and I guess technically a television show.
01:43:02
Speaker
I watched Mobile Suit Gundam 1.
01:43:03
Speaker
Yeah.
01:43:04
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
01:43:05
Speaker
Which fucking rips.
01:43:06
Speaker
I'm getting into Gundam.
01:43:08
Speaker
it fucking rips.
01:43:09
Speaker
Welcome to the team, brother.
01:43:10
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
01:43:11
Speaker
Big, big fuck robot fight.
01:43:14
Speaker
Big robot, big robot symbolism for penis puberty fight.
01:43:20
Speaker
Yeah.
01:43:21
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
01:43:22
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
01:43:24
Speaker
Sounds great to these four people and probably no one else on planet Earth.
01:43:27
Speaker
Big robot penis fight.
01:43:28
Speaker
Do not underestimate the weeb wave.
01:43:30
Speaker
You're right.
01:43:30
Speaker
You're right.
01:43:32
Speaker
My actual high, though, is the, no, I'm just kidding.
01:43:37
Speaker
It's Candyman.
01:43:39
Speaker
I really liked Candyman, dude.
01:43:41
Speaker
I think, honestly, there were moments in there where I was like, oh, this is a full-blown masterpiece.
01:43:49
Speaker
I've only seen the remake, dude.
01:43:51
Speaker
I need to watch the original.
01:43:52
Speaker
The original is quite good.
01:43:54
Speaker
I was really blown away.
01:43:56
Speaker
I think the direction is excellent.
01:43:58
Speaker
The Clyde Barker script is very good.
01:44:00
Speaker
Tony Todd, man.
01:44:03
Speaker
He's a great writer.
01:44:05
Speaker
Tony Todd is...
01:44:06
Speaker
like jumps off the screen, literally speaking.
01:44:09
Speaker
I mean, he is the villain of this horror movie, but he gives a really excellent performance.
01:44:17
Speaker
Madsen, I think, is like top fucking notch in this movie.
01:44:21
Speaker
She's fantastic.
01:44:23
Speaker
The way that it sets her up and what she wants to do and the amount of commentary on
01:44:31
Speaker
mostly like actual politics and the commentary on gentrification, on the way that most major American cities are extremely segregated.
01:44:44
Speaker
I think even that there is some real sexual politics and sexual identity politics in here.
01:44:50
Speaker
This movie, honestly, Candyman, the original is a masterclass in how to do a political horror movie without it being a horror movie that deals with trauma without being one of the stupid horror movies that deals with trauma.
01:45:03
Speaker
Yeah, it's not overwrought, whereas the remake is overwrought.
01:45:07
Speaker
They take it, in my opinion, they took that in some strange directions.
01:45:11
Speaker
Whereas like the original is like,
01:45:13
Speaker
here it is.
01:45:13
Speaker
Well, it's like that same tweet of like the old James Bond is like, um, hello, Mr. Bond.
01:45:18
Speaker
My name is Rebecca ass.
01:45:20
Speaker
And the new James Bond is like, you have to confront your childhood trauma with your mother.
01:45:24
Speaker
And like old, like old political horror movies were like, yeah.
01:45:27
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So there's this urban legend that, that deals with a lot of the poverty, but really he's just a fucking scary guy.
01:45:33
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Yeah.
01:45:34
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Yeah.
01:45:34
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It's also Mr. Wayne candy man is the scariest guy I've ever seen in my life.
01:45:41
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Uh, keep going rad.
01:45:42
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Sorry.
01:45:45
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That's it.
01:45:47
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Okay.
01:45:48
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I like that bit that you're doing.
01:45:49
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I like that.
01:45:50
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Okay.
01:45:51
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I stole that from you.
01:45:52
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Really?
01:45:54
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That's why he likes it.
01:45:56
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One time on the pod, I was like, all right, Joe, I want to hear from you.
01:45:59
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And you went, okay.
01:46:02
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And it made me laugh so hard.
01:46:05
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You laughed really hard.
01:46:06
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I remember.
01:46:06
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Oh, I'm glad that it had an effect on you.
01:46:09
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Thank you.
01:46:11
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Okay, my low is Blade in the Dark, which you talked about.
01:46:14
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Don't need to talk about it further.
01:46:15
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Yeah, it sucks.
01:46:16
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It sucks.
01:46:16
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It's absolute dog-ass.
01:46:19
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So we're going to get into this now.
01:46:21
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My honorable mention low is queer, which I didn't hate.
01:46:26
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I didn't even really dislike it.
01:46:31
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I loved the first act.
01:46:32
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I was very drawn in by the first act.
01:46:34
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I do agree with you all that Craig is fantastic and Starkey.
01:46:36
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They're both good.
01:46:37
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And Schwartzman just having the most fun of all time.
01:46:42
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I just wasn't as compelled by the second act into the third act.
01:46:47
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Sure.
01:46:48
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Just a lot of him in withdrawals.
01:46:52
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trying to get that ayahuasca.
01:46:55
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And it just felt a little drawn out for me.
01:46:58
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It does become a little bit brutalist.
01:47:02
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It's a little samey.
01:47:03
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It's a lot of the same.
01:47:05
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And, you know, again, I respected it.
01:47:09
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I was compelled by it.
01:47:10
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The ending didn't quite get there for me.
01:47:14
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But it just wasn't, it's not my speed of Luca, I guess, is the best way to put it.
01:47:17
Speaker
I was going to say, you also didn't like his Suspiria remake.
01:47:20
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I don't like it.
01:47:20
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Clarissa loves it.
01:47:21
Speaker
I don't either.
01:47:22
Speaker
It's a Clarissa's favorite movie.
01:47:24
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It's one of her favorites.
01:47:24
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She loves it.
01:47:25
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But I don't love it particularly, but I've seen it a lot.
01:47:28
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I think I've gone on record here saying I hated it.
01:47:31
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Yeah.
01:47:33
Speaker
So some honorable mention high rewatches.
01:47:36
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I'll just list these.
01:47:36
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We don't need to talk about them.
01:47:38
Speaker
Collateral.
01:47:40
Speaker
Fuck yeah.
01:47:40
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Fablemans.
01:47:41
Speaker
Fuck yeah.
01:47:41
Speaker
Point Break.
01:47:42
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And The Town.
01:47:43
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I rewatched all those movies this week.
01:47:45
Speaker
Point break into the town.
01:47:46
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That's, that's a great day.
01:47:49
Speaker
I will say I was very moved by Affleck's performance in the town this time.
01:47:52
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That's all I'll say about it.
01:47:53
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But I, I, I, he's quite good.
01:47:55
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I love everybody in that movie.
01:47:56
Speaker
I think it's perfectly cast, uh, up to Jon Hamm being the, um,
01:48:01
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this sort of stiff shirt um my actual high for the week is a movie called vengeance is mine directed by Michael Romer um interesting connectivity to a movie we already talked about this movie premiered in 1984 on American Playhouse TV the same as the Ballad of Gregorio Cortez just two years later
01:48:20
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It was filmed for theatrical release under a different title called Haunted and aired on American Playhouse and then got a re-release theatrically in 2022.
01:48:31
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It was kind of reclaimed by, I don't remember the company that did it.
01:48:36
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It might have been Criterion.
01:48:37
Speaker
I don't think it has a disc, but I watched it on the Criterion channel.
01:48:39
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And there's a bunch of great reviews of it from that re-release.
01:48:44
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Wesley Morris wrote one in the Times.
01:48:46
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It's very, very good.
01:48:47
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But I just want to read a quick snippet of Adam Naiman's review on Letterboxd that I thought really got to the heart of the movie.
01:48:54
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He commits bravely and correctly to the idea that real drama doesn't have to apologize for its own contrivance, and also that certain pathologies in combination can incite genuine and borderline screwball emotional chaos, especially when one party has internalized and stewed over the other possibility that she really is crazy.
01:49:13
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Um, it's, so it's basically about a woman who was adopted, has always felt this sense of, um, being separate from her family and had a very tough relationship with her adoptive mother.
01:49:23
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She comes home because her mother, adopted mother is sick, um, and they have a tough relationship.
01:49:27
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And then when she comes home, she meets this other family and sort of takes up with them.
01:49:32
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And the mother of this family, there's a young daughter.
01:49:34
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We learned that our main character had gave her own daughter up for abortion or not for abortion for adoption.
01:49:40
Speaker
Sorry.
01:49:40
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
01:49:41
Speaker
terrible, gave her own daughter up for adoption when she was very young.
01:49:46
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And so she gets in with this family.
01:49:48
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There's this young daughter, father, mother.
01:49:50
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The mother is very mentally ill, but we don't learn that initially.
01:49:53
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She becomes friends with them.
01:49:54
Speaker
And then we learn this.
01:49:55
Speaker
There's all this kind of trauma passing down to the child.
01:49:58
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And it's a story about generational trauma.
01:50:01
Speaker
It's quite bleak, but also very engaging while being very small and very...
01:50:09
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written beautifully directed uh especially on a budget that i'm sure this movie i was very low the star is brooke adams from days of heaven and uh invasion of the body invasion of the body snatchers the coffin remake which is fantastic and i've always really liked her i haven't seen her in much but um she is phenomenal in this movie um kind of toying with trauma and beauty it's very like
01:50:32
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neo-realist sort of stuff um just really boots on the ground like this is this is real life yeah yeah and it doesn't shy away from really really difficult conversations um i really i really loved it i watched it on criterion channel um it's a very confusing title then because there's also a shohei and memora movie
01:50:52
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from the 70s that's like an action movie called vengeance is mine um which is a better fit for that title um but it really great really maybe haunted was probably the better title probably so but it also came up because robert m young didn't write this movie the guy who made ballad of gregory cortez but he wrote romer's two prior movies
01:51:10
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Interesting.
01:51:11
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And Romer, I was just reading a lot about him after watching this movie.
01:51:14
Speaker
Really interesting filmmaker.
01:51:15
Speaker
I'm going to watch his other movies.
01:51:16
Speaker
So was American Playhouse just like pumping out bangers?
01:51:19
Speaker
I guess so.
01:51:20
Speaker
Yeah, man.
01:51:21
Speaker
That's what I want to look into.
01:51:22
Speaker
Maybe we do an American Playhouse episode.
01:51:24
Speaker
That sounds like it would actually be really fun because you guys have told me about two movies that premiered on American Playhouse that were bangers.
01:51:31
Speaker
It's fascinating.
01:51:32
Speaker
I was watching it and I was like, I had seen, I think like around the time that it got the re-release, like stuff on Letterboxd about it.
01:51:38
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Cause a lot of people that I followed had seen it, but I was like, this movie should be talked about a lot.
01:51:44
Speaker
Like it's really phenomenal.
01:51:46
Speaker
This makes me interested in something like, it might be cool to do a new version of this because of the way that the streamers work now where, um,
01:51:55
Speaker
like stranger things has hour and a half hour and 45, two hour long episodes.
01:51:59
Speaker
Yeah.
01:51:59
Speaker
Like why?
01:52:00
Speaker
Like I know small acts did this where it was like a season of movies, but like that's, that seems like it would be a really good idea.
01:52:08
Speaker
It's just to like have these small things like have really low budget dramas, uh,
01:52:14
Speaker
but like movies with directors not made for a TV, you know, like, I feel like that would be a really interesting, can you imagine what a, what a director that's actually interested in making movies with substance could do with the budget for one episode of stranger things?
01:52:30
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That's what I'm saying.
01:52:31
Speaker
Like David Lowry.
01:52:33
Speaker
Yeah, exactly.
01:52:35
Speaker
He would be like the perfect director for something like that.
01:52:37
Speaker
Cause he would just make something off.
01:52:39
Speaker
He would make a fucking banger for like $5 million.
01:52:41
Speaker
Yeah.
01:52:41
Speaker
Or Pete's Dragon.
01:52:42
Speaker
Like that story about they've made the first Star Trek.
01:52:45
Speaker
I like Pete's Dragon.
01:52:45
Speaker
I say it.
01:52:46
Speaker
It's nice.
01:52:46
Speaker
Pete's dragging these nuts across your forehead.
01:52:49
Speaker
Oh, fuck!
01:52:50
Speaker
It's like that story about the first Star Trek movie where it cost like $45 million and they blew all this money.
01:52:56
Speaker
It's Star Trek, the motion picture I'm talking about, the original.
01:52:59
Speaker
And Robert Wise made it.
01:53:00
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It was like this old Hollywood hand.
01:53:01
Speaker
And they got this guy to come in on the second one on Wrath of Khan.
01:53:05
Speaker
And they were like, can you make a movie for $9 million?
01:53:08
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They wanted to scale the budget down a ton.
01:53:10
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And he was like, I can make four movies for that.
01:53:12
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And he was like, I'll just make a smaller movie.
01:53:14
Speaker
That's how I feel.
01:53:15
Speaker
Like anytime someone's like, you know, the budget for this was only $10 million.
01:53:19
Speaker
It's like, if you gave me $100 and a bag of chips, I think I could make a movie.
01:53:24
Speaker
Yeah.
01:53:25
Speaker
I have food and I have money.
01:53:27
Speaker
I'm ready.
01:53:29
Speaker
I'm browsing through some American Playhouse episodes and right off the bat you've got one about Sam Houston in the Republic of Texas.
01:53:42
Speaker
You have Christopher Walken as a shy hardware employee in a Kurt Vonnegut story.
01:53:47
Speaker
What the fuck?
01:53:49
Speaker
A Nicholas Nickleby Charles Dickens movie.
01:53:52
Speaker
Nice.
01:53:53
Speaker
You've got...
01:53:55
Speaker
a movie about and i quote colored girls considered suicide okay yeah for colored girls who committed suicide but uh it was based on a play there's a matt dylan football movie what the hell sick we we're doing a okay that's i bet a lot of these are on tubi as well
01:54:17
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Yeah, it looks like 2B and Amazon for most of them.
01:54:19
Speaker
There's an Oppenheimer double parter.
01:54:21
Speaker
No, there's an Oppenheimer five parter.
01:54:24
Speaker
Five parter, you're right.
01:54:25
Speaker
Holy shit.
01:54:26
Speaker
Six.
01:54:27
Speaker
Seven.
01:54:28
Speaker
Just watch me like fucking watch this movie and be like, Christopher Nolan shit the bed.
01:54:34
Speaker
This is what it should have been.
01:54:35
Speaker
It's a seven part Oppenheimer.
01:54:36
Speaker
The Vonnegut one with Christopher Walken was directed by Jonathan Demme.
01:54:41
Speaker
What the fuck?
01:54:43
Speaker
That's crazy.
01:54:45
Speaker
Was this like pre-Roger Corman got a hold of him?
01:54:47
Speaker
Or is this post?
01:54:49
Speaker
This is 82.
01:54:50
Speaker
Okay, so it's post.
01:54:50
Speaker
Yeah, around that mix before he started getting theatrical features.
01:54:54
Speaker
Hold on.
01:54:55
Speaker
There's a... Wait a second.
01:54:58
Speaker
This is good podcasting, by the way.
01:55:00
Speaker
There's a Larry Fishburne movie, too.
01:55:02
Speaker
Oh, sick.
01:55:04
Speaker
This is dope.
01:55:05
Speaker
I'm going to spend some time looking at this stuff tonight.
01:55:08
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely.
01:55:11
Speaker
They also have True West, the same Shepard play.
01:55:15
Speaker
Rothko conspiracy.
01:55:16
Speaker
With the original cast.
01:55:17
Speaker
Malkovich.
01:55:20
Speaker
Holy fuck.
01:55:22
Speaker
This is crazy.
01:55:23
Speaker
I didn't even know this existed.
01:55:26
Speaker
Listen to this description.
01:55:28
Speaker
A slave switches her light-skinned baby with her master's baby.
01:55:32
Speaker
Whoa.
01:55:35
Speaker
So American Playhouse was just fucking cooking and no one told me about it?
01:55:39
Speaker
They were just talking about bangers, man.
01:55:40
Speaker
I don't know.
01:55:41
Speaker
This is crazy.
01:55:42
Speaker
Bill Duke directed a film called The Killing Floor.
01:55:44
Speaker
Love that.
01:55:45
Speaker
During World War I, a poor black southerner travels north of Chicago to get to work in the city slaughterhouses where he becomes embroiled in the organized labor movement.
01:55:53
Speaker
Holy shit.
01:55:54
Speaker
It was really socially conscious is what I'm gathering.
01:55:57
Speaker
Yeah, clearly.
01:56:00
Speaker
They made a Philip Roth adaptation of his movie The Ghost Rider.
01:56:04
Speaker
They adapted Eugenio Neal's Huey.
01:56:07
Speaker
Oh, cool.
01:56:07
Speaker
With Jason Robards.
01:56:09
Speaker
Oh, my heart and my soul.
01:56:12
Speaker
I love Jack Dodson.
01:56:13
Speaker
Jesus, dude.
01:56:15
Speaker
Hell yeah.
01:56:16
Speaker
Shout out PBS.
01:56:17
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
01:56:18
Speaker
Oh, Andy's seeing Donnie Darko at the Metrograph right now.
01:56:21
Speaker
Is Richard Kelly there?
01:56:24
Speaker
Probably not.
01:56:25
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But Joe, if he was, I know you would want a message.
01:56:27
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So I can make that happen.
01:56:30
Speaker
Um,
01:56:31
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Yeah, tell Richard Kelly I want to give him a hug.
01:56:35
Speaker
Tell Richard Kelly he's your favorite filmmaker of all time.
01:56:38
Speaker
He's up there.
01:56:38
Speaker
I think it's the longest we've ripped after highs and lows.
01:56:43
Speaker
Yeah, we've been well.
01:56:45
Speaker
And on that, listeners, thank you.
01:56:48
Speaker
Yeah, love you guys.
01:56:49
Speaker
Next week's episode is a musical.
01:56:51
Speaker
I was like, Red's not interested in wrapping this up.
01:56:53
Speaker
I'm going to get the ball rolling.
01:56:55
Speaker
I was deep in the playhouse, man.
01:56:57
Speaker
You're deep in the playhouse archives.
01:56:59
Speaker
I love it.
01:57:00
Speaker
That's another euphemism we could use instead of ants marching.
01:57:02
Speaker
I'm deep in the playhouse.
01:57:03
Speaker
Deep in the playhouse archives.
01:57:05
Speaker
Whoa!
01:57:06
Speaker
He wakes up in the morning.
01:57:09
Speaker
Don't fight up there.
01:57:13
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Bye, too.
01:57:14
Speaker
All right.
01:57:15
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Love you guys.
01:57:15
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Bye.
01:57:15
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Bye.