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PGW 33: RomComulus and Remus (feat. Producer Maddy)
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The fellas wanted to get a little romantic and a little silly and thanks to the incredible influence of Producer Maddy, they get to celebrate the beauty of Romantic Comedies.
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Introduction and Playful Banter
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Welcome to Paddington Gone Wild, the internet's only romance podcast that is also a comedy.
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I am one of your hosts, Red Rankin, joined as always by my co-hosts, the only man I've ever seen rock a sweater with the same sort of swag as Billy Crystal.
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That's Austin Ingalls.
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Oh, thank you.
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That's very sweet.
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He's quite good.
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That's high praise.
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That's very high praise, and I appreciate it.
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You ever seen Austin wear a sweater?
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I'm telling you.
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He looks good in a sweater.
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He got that shit on.
Welcome Maddie Hayes
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The man who just had sex and he's about to have nachos.
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That's Joe Hayes.
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Don't fuck this up for me.
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I just had sex.
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I'm about to eat nachos.
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And the man who was paid to fall in love and turns out he was already there.
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That's Zach.
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Hello.
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I love you, Zach.
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And if it's quite all right, I need you, Zach.
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Extending it into two syllables is wild.
Diversity in Rom-Com Discussions
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We're also joined by the queen of the rom-com, producer Maddie Hayes, back on the show.
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Hello.
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Hi, Maddie.
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How are you?
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I'm swell.
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How are you?
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Doing great.
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Glad you're here.
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Glad to be here.
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Glad to see everybody, honestly.
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It's been... I know it's only like a week since we last recorded, but it's just nice to see.
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It would be crazy if we didn't have some chromosomal variety on the rom-com episode.
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Yeah.
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It's true.
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That would be so funny.
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If it was just four straight white men being like, you know what I fucking love is Dora Efron.
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No.
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If there's any podcast to do it, it's us.
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I feel like there's a certain... Son of a bitch, my stupid fucking camera.
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This is bullshit, man.
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Joe, don't you dare cut that out.
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I will.
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Oh, that was good.
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Zach can use that one for the TikTok.
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That's got to stay.
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I actually feel like there's a certain subject of women on the internet that if they heard a podcast of four guys going, ah, Nora Ephron.
Humorous Technical Glitch
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Oh, the way she writes falling in love is just simply wonderful.
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I feel like there's a group of women on Twitter that would enjoy that.
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Do not get hopes up like that, you motherfuckers.
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There's also a group of dudes on the internet who would try to find us and shoot us.
Critique of Faith-Based Mental Health Practices
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Those guys are out there, too.
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They're going to do that anyway.
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That's also true.
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But you have said a lot of pro Mel Gibson stuff on this pod.
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That's true.
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You might be backing their good graces.
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I'm an enigma.
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No one can kind of tamp me down.
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I'm not a shot of espresso.
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I hope your fucking camera falls down again and call yourself an enigma.
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Good Lord.
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That's what he gets for using such fancy equipment for a podcast.
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Damn, get his ass She said Joe bougie ass Hayes That's what she said Maddie the other day texted me just verbatim I think I have expensive taste Just apropos of nothing Yeah, and I was like Maddie, I fucking know, me too Having expensive taste is cool, we just can't afford it Yeah, exactly
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Living outside your means
Youth Group Stories and Romantic Pressure
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is fun.
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Expensive taste, but it's so endearing when we get the almost weekly Friday evening photos of Joe and Maddie having a beverage at a pseudo-chain restaurant.
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It's the most Oklahoma thing I've ever seen.
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The Midwest middle-class dream is just having margaritas on a Friday night at Chewy's.
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Yeah, 100%.
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It's very true.
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Dude, I haven't had Chewy's in a...
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Minute.
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I like it.
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Hey, Red, Easter's coming up in five or six months.
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You want to come up to Waco and do Easter together?
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I am not opposed.
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You guys can watch The Passion of the Christ.
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I've never seen it.
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It's not great.
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I've never seen it.
Favorite Rom-Com Actors
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That was the second R-rated movie I ever saw.
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I had a professor in college who told me about... Because I was writing this paper that was an analytical takedown of faith-based movies.
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He was like, if you want an interesting article to read, you should read this article.
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I forgot what it was called.
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I don't know, it was called Come Lord Jesus.
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Oh, more Jesus.
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No, spelled with a U. Whoa.
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And it's an article that's basically about how Mel Gibson shot the Passion of the Christ, specifically the crucifixion scene, exactly like you would shoot pornography.
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It's shot exactly the same.
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And there's even a shot where Jesus is stabbed in the side and blood sprays over Mary Magdalene's face.
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And the author of the article compares that to a religious cum shot.
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that is also just come shot good band name red i'm surprised that wasn't required material for youth with a mission you'd be real dude i that's all the ywam baddies out there i know shout out all the ywam baddies i sincerely hope that you leave that you get help please please seek um mental health yeah honestly if i can say anything and i know i will have some disagreements from maybe some other folks
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don't seek faith-based professional mental health expertise.
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Seek like regular mental health expertise.
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Faith-based mental health expertise.
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A lot of them don't have licenses.
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They're just like, it doesn't require certification.
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It's actually, if you have a coming from somebody who is in grad school to become a mental health professional, you have a license.
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You're actually required to take your values out of your practice.
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Yeah.
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Oh, sweetie, are you feeling blue?
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Have you prayed about it?
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Well, we got that message every week at youth group growing up.
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Oh, same.
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But if I wanted to talk to my grandma about prayer, I'd go to her gravesite.
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Can we talk for like two minutes about how many groups are?
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No, I mean, it's cult tactics, baby.
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Speaking of rom-coms, do you guys know how Joe and I met?
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In youth group?
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In youth group.
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Hell yeah.
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Youth group Valentine's dance.
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And Nell walked up to me and bowed and said, why do I do this dance?
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And I curtsied and said, of course you may.
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And then we two-stepped.
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amazing to the Darius Rucker version of wagon wheel beautiful hootie himself I I will say I think a youth group Valentine's dance might be the horniest place on earth oh the hormones are right it's wild real
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yeah you're flirting is hilarious a friend of mine red knows him but like i remember we we were at like a skating rink function and he walks up to this girl and like the line that he could pull out from wherever it was just like do i know you from somewhere
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It's like an Alec Baldwin character.
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Well, at our youth group, the line was always like, God told me I was going to marry you.
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Here's the fucking, here's the bullshit.
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This is why youth group dating is so fucking awful.
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It's because every year they do like a sex youth group sex talk and they like split the guys and the girls up.
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And the message to the guys is, Hey guys, just going to let you know if you are alone with a girl,
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you're probably going to have sex.
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You're going to sin, dude.
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That's pretty sick to me, honestly.
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If you're alone with a girl, you will have sex with her and you will ruin her for her entire life.
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Hey kids, this Friday night, y'all should all come here and we're going to lock the doors.
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And we're going to play mixed gender sardines.
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Oh, Jesus Christ, man.
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All of the classrooms will be unlocked and you will have unrestricted access to everything.
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At our youth group, we didn't just do a lock-in.
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We did 24-hour worship night.
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Yeah, it was praying the whole time.
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We were all sat in the middle and prayed and worshiped.
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so embarrassing joe do you remember this when we were like trying to like pray out demons from people yeah we're trying to pray the demons out of that one kid who was doing it for attention deprivation and y'all were like i was like do you have any tylenol and you and your friend were like i'm so sorry pray for your headache yeah
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Yo, that's hilarious.
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No, we were fully indoctrinated.
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That should have been in your wedding vows.
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Yeah.
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Always pray for your headaches.
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We were still... Anyways.
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At our wedding, people from that church were there.
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And honestly, if I could do it again, uninvited.
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Well, hey.
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You're all bitches.
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And by the way, I know you still watch my Instagram story.
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Fucking unfollow me.
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Yeah.
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Get fucked, nerds.
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Get lost, bitch.
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I was thinking about this might get us into a conversation.
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And we're talking about weddings.
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What do y'all think of vis-a-vis only having a best man and maid of honor versus having a full wedding party?
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Sure.
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I think it's cool.
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Way less complicated.
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100%.
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Are you saying that because of the movie What If?
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I'm saying it because of when Harry met Sally at Jess and what's?
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Marie.
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Marie.
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Jess and Marie's wedding.
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Speaking of, one of my new favorite lines from the movie is if it weren't for Harry and Sally, we would not be together.
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If either of us found either of them remotely attractive, we would not be together.
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It's perfect.
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So we've danced around it.
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We've talked about this being the rom-com episode.
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And I kind of prepped, or rather tried to prep Maddie a little bit on this.
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But Maddie was the person who pitched the idea of doing a PGW rom-com episode.
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This has been something I think we've kind of been dancing around since Dudes Rock Month.
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So we are almost four months late.
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Her ultimate goal is to do a Chicks Rock episode soon.
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I think a Chicks Rock episode would be awesome.
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Because Rom-coms are cool and Ocean's 8 sucks.
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I think Greta Gerwig's Little Women is a Chicks Rock flick.
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Sure.
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Legally Blonde.
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Chicks Rock.
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Is Kill Bill a Chicks Rock?
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Yeah, Kill Bill's up.
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Maddie hasn't seen Kill Bill, so if we do a Chicks Rock, I will be having her watch Kill Bill.
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Maddie, Princess Diaries 1 or 2, what's your fave?
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So actually, the proper way to watch Princess Diaries is to watch both of them back to back.
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Yeah.
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So you want the whole saga.
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I thought you were saying, currently, like both films are at the same time.
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I wouldn't put it back.
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It's no different.
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Guys, I didn't know.
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It was one movie, and they had to split it up for the studio distribution.
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Yeah.
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Speaking of that movie, I didn't realize that when Julie Andrews sings in the second movie, that that's the first time she sang in a movie since like she had like a surgery or an accident or something.
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I did not know that.
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There was a bunch of like Disney Channel featurettes about that movie.
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I probably like it's a Disney movie, but also because Raven Simone was one of the stars.
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And so they did all this stuff.
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And I remember hearing that watching it because my sister was obsessed with that movie, which meant I was obsessed with that movie.
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Yeah.
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She had like vocal polyps or something.
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Like she had like a major surgery.
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She doesn't sing anymore.
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Like she did that duo with Raven though, in that movie.
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And it's fire.
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She sang at the Oscars probably eight or nine years ago.
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And that was like a big freaking deal.
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Queen.
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I love Princess Diaries so much.
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This is so off topic.
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It's not that off topic, but it popped in my head.
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I know I was not the only one here who it was like appointment television for the premiere of High School Musical 2.
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Oh, of course.
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I went to a party.
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I went to a party.
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I went to a party.
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Yeah.
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Maddie and I just missed the list that year at the top of the list.
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Physical media king.
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DVD of High School Musical 2.
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DVD of High School Musical 2.
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Yeah, 100%.
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Maddie and I went to Utah with her family, and we stopped by the East High School and took a picture.
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Oh, nice.
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In the movie, it takes place in Albuquerque, but it's all shot in Salt Lake.
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It's all shot in Utah.
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I literally went to the midnight premiere of High School Musical 3.
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Amazing.
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My dad was like, I'll take you and your sister.
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And we went and took some friends.
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It was fucking incredible.
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Sounds wonderful.
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I don't have much mental recollection of the third one.
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Oh, the third one's good.
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It was in theater.
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Never seen.
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Yeah.
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Oh, you should hop on Disney Plus and check that Betty out.
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I couldn't remember.
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They had a budget on that one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and they didn't use it very wisely.
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They didn't.
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It's not the best movie.
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It's not the best movie of the trilogy, but it's really fun to watch them with good cameras.
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I gotta say two is the best, but that's, I don't know.
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Two probably the best.
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Two has bed on it, so you can't be better.
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I mean, and it has a fucking, is that I Don't Dance?
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Yeah, I Don't Dance.
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I Don't Dance is one of my favorite.
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It's incredible.
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The most homoerotic act in Disney's history.
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I mean, but then also status quo is one of my favorite musical theater songs of all time.
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Thanks.
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It's quite good.
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So I'm going to brag for a second.
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And I was in competition dance when I was younger and I danced with a guy that was in those movies.
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Wow.
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He's in status quo.
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He's in like at the nerdy table.
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And he has like a bigger dance role in the second one, especially in.
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the first song where it's like what time is it hey growing up disney channel original movies man they there were some absolute hitters smart house smart house it's not disney but in the same zeitgeist i remember in high school i saw pitch perfect twice before it came out in theaters and that was like
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Kind of cool.
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Maddie rewatches Pitch Perfect maybe once or twice a year.
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We watch it anytime my siblings are all together.
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So I joined choir my senior year because I broke my back junior year.
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And so like sports were off the table for sure.
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So I was like, naturally I'll join choir.
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And that resulted in seeing Pitch Perfect twice before official release.
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That's amazing.
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Tyler Aspen in Pitch Perfect...
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if you know me and you're listening to this no you don't was my sexual awakening oh okay adam divine skyler astin did it for you yes yes i do think it was the performing singing choir aspect of it all she's got a thing for quirky white boys the very the very end of that movie the last two songs like the treble makers and the um bard and bellas the whole last sequence is
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May I say pitch perfect?
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I'm telling you, the last time we watched pitch perfect and it was in the audition scene and there's that moment where Skylar Aston is singing Since You've Been Gone and he goes, oh, Jesus, that's high.
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Maddie shuddered.
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I'm not kidding.
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All right.
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You know what, folks?
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I'm just going to go ahead and declare it.
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That's great.
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Before the year is up, before 2024 closes, there will be a DCOM episode of PGW.
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Oh, hell yeah.
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Let's go, baby.
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That's a great idea.
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Top tens?
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We could do a PGW top five.
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Yeah.
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I think we figure out and work on... I think it'd be a really fun excuse to bring in a bunch of former guests.
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Oh, yeah.
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Bring in some new folks.
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Just bringing people to talk in for...
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Andy could do 40 minutes on Johnny Tsunami.
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What a great movie.
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Johnny Tsunami rips.
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Rips.
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And what about Johnny Capahala?
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Back on board, bitch.
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Back on board.
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That's quite good.
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All the ones that got sequels are really interesting.
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Because there wasn't that many.
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I liked Cadet Kelly, but I won't disclose.
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I'm a double team.
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Basketball goes hard.
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Yeah, Luck of the Irish.
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Luck of the Irish is a great one.
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It's got Timothy Omenson from... How do you pronounce his name?
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From Psych?
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He's fucking great.
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Omenson, yeah.
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He plays the Irish guy, right?
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Yeah, the leprechaun.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Leprechaun.
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Luck of the Irish is the basketball sisters or the double teamed?
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No, double teamed is the basketball sisters.
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But there's basketball and Luck of the Irish too.
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Double teamed or luck of the Irish camera, which one has truly some of the worst sports I've ever seen on screen.
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Oh, a hundred percent.
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It's both bad.
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The best part of luck of the Irish though, is like, uh, they're going to like play basketball.
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And then the Irish guy's like, let's go to my sports.
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I was Scottish, but whatever.
00:16:36
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And he like claps his hands and they're in like medieval Ireland, like throwing javelins and shit.
00:16:42
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It's fucking awesome.
00:16:44
Speaker
It's so dope.
00:16:45
Speaker
Yeah, it's so sick.
00:16:46
Speaker
Anyways, this is a rom-com episode, and I kind of tried to prepare Maddie.
00:16:52
Speaker
So, Maddie, why rom-coms?
00:16:53
Speaker
What do you love about rom-coms?
00:16:54
Speaker
What do you seek out about rom-coms?
00:16:57
Speaker
Did you just want to pitch this episode because you wanted an excuse to come back?
00:17:00
Speaker
Or why are we doing a rom-coms episode?
00:17:03
Speaker
I think...
00:17:05
Speaker
Paddington Gone Wild talks about a lot of the same kinds of movies a lot of the time.
00:17:11
Speaker
Fair.
00:17:13
Speaker
We are an echo chamber.
00:17:15
Speaker
We're four guys who mostly agree about everything.
00:17:21
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I think Maddie's just a girl standing in front of four dudes asking them to take their heads out of their asses.
00:17:27
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That's a good point.
00:17:30
Speaker
That was a good line.
00:17:33
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But yeah, I love...
00:17:35
Speaker
I love a good rom-com.
00:17:39
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I just think romance is fun.
00:17:43
Speaker
It's nice.
00:17:44
Speaker
You're right.
00:17:45
Speaker
Rattle off a few favorites for us.
00:17:47
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Yeah.
00:17:47
Speaker
And then I have a follow-up.
00:17:48
Speaker
Which, by the way, are Red,
00:17:53
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So we are going to talk about, and we're going to go in order of how they are released.
00:17:56
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So we're going to start with When Harry Met Sally, directed by Rob Reiner.
00:18:01
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We're then going to go 10 Things I Hate About You and then Notting Hill, both released in 1999.
00:18:05
Speaker
10 Things I Hate About You.
00:18:08
Speaker
You were released.
00:18:12
Speaker
Notting Hill in May of that year.
00:18:14
Speaker
And then we're going to follow up with What If, which is from, I think, like 2014 or 2012.
00:18:18
Speaker
The most modern movie.
00:18:19
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2013, I think.
00:18:21
Speaker
Okay, so right in the middle.
00:18:21
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But yeah, Canadian rom-com starring a Brit.
00:18:25
Speaker
Yeah, very odd.
00:18:26
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Yeah, Toronto based, which I like.
00:18:30
Speaker
I like my base in Toronto as well.
00:18:32
Speaker
But like Rafe Spall is playing another Brit playing like another Brit, but playing a factual white guy.
00:18:39
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Yeah.
00:18:39
Speaker
Yeah.
00:18:40
Speaker
Very well.
00:18:40
Speaker
It's like what Canada is, though.
00:18:45
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You're not wrong.
00:18:46
Speaker
You know, whites can play whites.
00:18:47
Speaker
It's all good.
00:18:48
Speaker
So, Maddie, what are some other favorites besides the four?
00:18:51
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Besides the four.
00:18:53
Speaker
Oh, my goodness.
00:18:55
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I have so many.
00:18:57
Speaker
Can I ask a follow up that might inspire?
00:18:59
Speaker
Yeah.
00:19:00
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Do you have like favorite rom-com people like, you know, Meg Rung and Tom Hanks, like Julia Roberts, you know, is there like a person that stands out in your mind or is it kind of story?
00:19:10
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Yes.
00:19:11
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Sandra Bullock.
00:19:12
Speaker
Love.
00:19:12
Speaker
Okay.
00:19:13
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Great.
00:19:13
Speaker
Pull.
00:19:13
Speaker
Yeah.
00:19:14
Speaker
Great.
00:19:15
Speaker
Okay.
00:19:15
Speaker
Jennifer Aniston has actually like a few really love.
00:19:19
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Yes, for sure.
00:19:20
Speaker
I saw Along Came Polly for the first time recently and I was like, yeah, she's very funny.
00:19:28
Speaker
Okay.
00:19:30
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Patrick Dempsey, but he's only in one.
00:19:32
Speaker
That's one of my favorite rom-coms.
00:19:34
Speaker
Can't Buy Me Love.
00:19:35
Speaker
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:19:36
Speaker
But he's in 27 Dresses, right?
00:19:39
Speaker
Huh?
00:19:40
Speaker
No, you're thinking of... The Wedding Planner, right?
00:19:43
Speaker
No, no, no, no.
00:19:46
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It's Maid of Honor is the one with Dempsey.
00:19:49
Speaker
Maid of Honor.
00:19:50
Speaker
M-A-D-E.
00:19:51
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27 Dresses.
00:19:52
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Yeah, 27 Dresses is Marsden.
00:19:55
Speaker
Oh, what a guy.
00:19:57
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Yeah.
00:19:59
Speaker
They do.
00:19:59
Speaker
They do.
00:19:59
Speaker
Benny and the Jets in the bar.
00:20:01
Speaker
Yes.
00:20:03
Speaker
And Dimsy.
00:20:04
Speaker
It's a different Grey's Anatomy character in 27 Dresses.
00:20:06
Speaker
It's the woman.
00:20:09
Speaker
Catherine.
00:20:10
Speaker
Catherine Heigl.
00:20:11
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She's like Izzy or something on Grey's Anatomy.
00:20:14
Speaker
Catherine Heigl is also in Knocked Up.
00:20:17
Speaker
yes yes yes and also apparently a very bad person oh well oh really do okay fan of knocked up though can i tell a very brief story about catherine yeah what what the fuck else is this podcast for except for getting distracted by brief stories so we have i have a catherine heigl story as well that i just we've danced around all sorts of catherine heigl stories except for one film that she is in called the ugly truth sorry oh yeah with jerry butler yeah
00:20:43
Speaker
Gerard, if you will, where Gerard Butler plays a misogynistic.
00:20:46
Speaker
He's got a heart over his junk, right?
00:20:47
Speaker
Yes.
00:20:48
Speaker
On the poster.
00:20:48
Speaker
He plays a misogynistic TV show host, basically running a show that's similar like The Man Show.
00:20:54
Speaker
And Heigl is either a producer or she's a journalist.
00:20:59
Speaker
I believe she's a producer who's come to clean the show up, make it a little more woke.
00:21:04
Speaker
and um and i will i will tell you this now friends romans countrymen that was the film that was playing when red rankin lost his virginity oh beautiful we love to see it was the one and now whenever he's got a better he feels confused yeah
00:21:24
Speaker
That's fair.
00:21:25
Speaker
I watched Dead of Thieves and I'm just like, yeah.
00:21:27
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You're like, whoa, buddy.
00:21:30
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My Katherine Heigl story is when I was like 13, I was like texting with this girl and she was like, she was like, people tell me I look like Katherine Heigl.
00:21:38
Speaker
Like she said, that's me.
00:21:39
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And I was like, who's that?
00:21:40
Speaker
So on our family desktop computer, I Googled Katherine Heigl just to see.
00:21:43
Speaker
And I like clicked on images, went to look at it, whatever.
00:21:46
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Not even really honestly noticing that there was like pictures of her in lingerie.
00:21:51
Speaker
Oh, nice.
00:21:51
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Like they came up immediately.
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And I was just like, okay, now I know who that is.
00:21:55
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And I like left the computer.
00:21:56
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And later on my dad is like, Austin, can I talk to you about what you were looking at on the computer today?
00:22:02
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And I was like, yeah, what's up?
00:22:03
Speaker
And he was like, why are you looking at like pictures of girls in their underwear?
00:22:07
Speaker
And I was like, what?
00:22:09
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I was like, I was like, I was just, I looked up to this person was because my friend said,
00:22:13
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No, dad.
00:22:14
Speaker
That's what the JCPenney's catalog is for.
00:22:16
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Well, 100%.
00:22:18
Speaker
100%.
00:22:18
Speaker
But I was just like, oh, no, that wasn't even what that was.
00:22:21
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And he did not believe me.
00:22:23
Speaker
And if I brought it up to him today, he'd probably still not believe me.
00:22:27
Speaker
No, because if you were just Googling Katherine Heigl as an actress, that would be gay.
00:22:32
Speaker
And that is unacceptable.
00:22:33
Speaker
Well, that's also true.
00:22:35
Speaker
It's like, you know, it's like Googling Selena.
00:22:37
Speaker
If you were 13, you're not Googling just Catherine Heigl.
00:22:40
Speaker
It's.
00:22:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:22:41
Speaker
Boobies.
00:22:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:22:42
Speaker
I go booby.
00:22:43
Speaker
Catherine Heigl naked.
00:22:43
Speaker
Catherine.
00:22:44
Speaker
Of course.
00:22:45
Speaker
Catherine Heigl.
00:22:45
Speaker
Which I would never have done on the family computer.
00:22:49
Speaker
Yeah, that's strictly an iPod touch search.
00:22:53
Speaker
100%.
00:22:53
Speaker
I just Googled Fergie nudes.
00:22:58
Speaker
Oh.
00:23:00
Speaker
The London Bridge music video did a lot for me.
00:23:02
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:23:03
Speaker
And then you forget the video of her pissing her pants on stage, and you were like, no, I didn't want that.
00:23:07
Speaker
Yeah, then you saw her sing the national anthem at the NBA All-Star Game, and you were like, I'm going to kill myself.
00:23:14
Speaker
Oh, gosh.
00:23:15
Speaker
So when Harry Met Sally, huh?
00:23:16
Speaker
Sorry.
00:23:16
Speaker
Yeah.
00:23:17
Speaker
Harry Met Sally.
00:23:19
Speaker
From the 1980s, directed by Rob Reiner, written by the one of my redibles, Nora Ephron.
00:23:26
Speaker
And this truly like.
00:23:28
Speaker
We are just going to go in chronological order because I think it's the easiest, but this might be the movie that I I have thought about the most as.
00:23:36
Speaker
A perfect romcom.
00:23:38
Speaker
Yeah, it's the gold standard.
00:23:40
Speaker
If you are making a rom-com, you have to measure it to when Harry met Sally because there's nothing else to compare it to.
00:23:47
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Yeah, it revitalized the sort of 40s, 50s, will they, won't they, and placed it into a modern context.
00:23:54
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And that was just like, holy fuck, you can do this and be so clever and write like Preston Sturgis.
00:24:00
Speaker
I think that's the kicker of this movie is, I don't know, probably not spoiler alert because I'm not going to say which way they went, but it does not matter by the end of the movie if they end up together or not because of how it's crafted along the way, in my opinion.
00:24:15
Speaker
It reminds me of something that like I was watching it this time thinking this was the first steps that bring us to before sunrise.
00:24:24
Speaker
Like a movie of two people slowly falling in love with each other through conversations.
00:24:30
Speaker
Like the trilogy?
00:24:32
Speaker
Just I mean, just the first movie really.
00:24:34
Speaker
But yeah, the trilogy as well.
00:24:36
Speaker
Well, there's something about to like Nora Ephron.
00:24:39
Speaker
The thing to me that she does the best is her endings because they never feel like fully complete.
00:24:46
Speaker
There's always like a tinge of disappointment or sadness, like Sleepless in Seattle.
00:24:51
Speaker
And you've got me all the same thing.
00:24:52
Speaker
It's like,
00:24:53
Speaker
You've Got Mail is very much the same thing where it's like, I really wanted to hate you.
00:24:57
Speaker
Like, I really don't want to love you.
00:24:59
Speaker
And she's so good at that feeling.
00:25:01
Speaker
Well, I mean, yeah, just her saying, like Meg Ryan at the end just saying, like, I hate you.
00:25:07
Speaker
I really hate you.
00:25:08
Speaker
But you can tell just from context, from the way it's shot, from Meg Ryan's performance, that I hate you means I love you.
00:25:15
Speaker
And I just think that, like...
00:25:17
Speaker
that's like the punchline that's that's the thing she's setting up for the whole movie like what if like i'm picturing myself or picturing nora evron asking yourself what if at what if this movie is a lead up to having someone say i hate you but it means i love you yeah i want to i want to say to queen rather say something quickly and then i do want to throw to maddie and kind of have maddie explain what it is she's drawn to about this movie specifically but um
00:25:45
Speaker
I truly just think that this movie might be the greatest written 95 minutes of any cinema.
00:25:51
Speaker
Yeah.
00:25:51
Speaker
In terms of... It's up there.
00:25:53
Speaker
I said this in the group chat.
00:25:54
Speaker
It is airtight.
00:25:56
Speaker
Every single line is like...
00:26:00
Speaker
It reminds me of when we were talking about found footage movies and Joe referenced that there are moments in found footage movies where it's like, well, this was like the not improv line.
00:26:10
Speaker
This is the line that had to be written.
00:26:13
Speaker
Every line of a Nora Ephron film feels written.
00:26:16
Speaker
And that's not a bad thing.
00:26:18
Speaker
In a great way.
00:26:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:19
Speaker
But it feels so, I mean, air-tight.
00:26:24
Speaker
There is not room for stipulation.
00:26:26
Speaker
There's not room for criticism because it flows so perfectly and everything that you think like, oh, it'd be really funny if someone made a joke about this.
00:26:36
Speaker
It's like, it's said.
00:26:37
Speaker
And every moment is beat for beat so ideal.
00:26:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:26:43
Speaker
And like even thinking the first scene once they leave Chicago and they go to the diner.
00:26:49
Speaker
And like every moment going from like.
00:26:52
Speaker
Oh, you haven't had enough good sex.
00:26:53
Speaker
It's like, well, I happen to have had some good sex.
00:26:56
Speaker
And it's like, oh, yeah, with who?
00:26:58
Speaker
Shell.
00:26:59
Speaker
And then the whole like, oh, Sheldon, ride me, Sheldon.
00:27:03
Speaker
Like he can do your taxes for you, but he's not going to fuck you.
00:27:06
Speaker
Nobody's moaning out the name Sheldon.
00:27:08
Speaker
Yeah, it's just like perfect.
00:27:12
Speaker
I'm going to cut that.
00:27:13
Speaker
I think it's okay.
00:27:16
Speaker
I know what they call the Big Bang Theory, right?
00:27:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:27:19
Speaker
Oh, God.
00:27:20
Speaker
That show's fucking horny.
00:27:22
Speaker
Sorry.
00:27:22
Speaker
The Big Bang Theory is a very horny show.
00:27:25
Speaker
Back on regular discussion.
00:27:29
Speaker
I do think perhaps the greatest line reading in the history of any rom-com
00:27:35
Speaker
is when you want to spend the rest of your life with someone, don't you want the rest of your life to start right now?
00:27:39
Speaker
Oh, come on.
00:27:41
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:27:43
Speaker
I showed when Harry met Sally to a couple people this past week, and there was a point at which somebody looked over, and like three of us were just in tears.
00:27:53
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:27:54
Speaker
I cried at the end today.
00:27:55
Speaker
I look away when it's 71 degrees outside.
00:27:57
Speaker
You know, you're cold when it's 71 degrees outside.
00:27:59
Speaker
I love how picky you are.
00:28:00
Speaker
It's just perfect.
00:28:01
Speaker
Takes you a half an hour to order a salad.
00:28:04
Speaker
So good.
00:28:05
Speaker
So Maddie, when you think about When Harry Met Sally, what draws you to it?
00:28:10
Speaker
What are the moments that you love the most?
00:28:12
Speaker
I had never seen it before.
00:28:14
Speaker
Wow.
00:28:14
Speaker
Oh, shit.
00:28:15
Speaker
Amazing.
00:28:16
Speaker
This was a first for me.
00:28:19
Speaker
Somehow along the way, most of Meg Ryan, Nora Ephron movies were just not like... Sleepless in Seattle.
00:28:27
Speaker
What's the word people... Like blind spot?
00:28:29
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:28:30
Speaker
Sure.
00:28:30
Speaker
Blind spots for me.
00:28:32
Speaker
So this was the first time I watched it.
00:28:33
Speaker
Wow.
00:28:35
Speaker
And like, I get it.
00:28:37
Speaker
Like for a long time, I thought it was kind of like how...
00:28:42
Speaker
Like a lot of normal people.
00:28:44
Speaker
This is, I don't want to offend anybody.
00:28:47
Speaker
This is a safe space.
00:28:48
Speaker
How a lot of normal people say that The Office is their favorite show.
00:28:52
Speaker
Sure.
00:28:53
Speaker
Like a lot of normal people just said when Harry met Sally is their favorite rom-com.
00:28:59
Speaker
But no, I get it.
00:29:00
Speaker
Totally.
00:29:02
Speaker
It's the same with The Office.
00:29:04
Speaker
It's like, yeah, everyone says that.
00:29:06
Speaker
It's pretty good.
00:29:08
Speaker
It's super good.
00:29:09
Speaker
It's just that also really annoying people also like it.
00:29:12
Speaker
Yeah.
00:29:12
Speaker
Which is true of When Harry Met Sally too, I'm sure.
00:29:15
Speaker
But I think my favorite, I had three favorite like
00:29:20
Speaker
scenes or shots from the whole movie.
00:29:22
Speaker
But my number one favorite one, which I tried not to talk to Joe about it too much after we watched it because I don't know.
00:29:29
Speaker
You wanted to save it.
00:29:31
Speaker
You save it for the pod.
00:29:32
Speaker
Save it for the pod.
00:29:33
Speaker
You're learning.
00:29:33
Speaker
I'm learning.
00:29:36
Speaker
was the shot from outside the Chinese restaurant when they're ordering.
00:29:41
Speaker
And you can tell that she's ordering something very specific without hearing her words.
00:29:48
Speaker
Yeah.
00:29:48
Speaker
And then the waiter looks at Billy Crystal and Billy Crystal just shrugs.
00:29:52
Speaker
The direction is so insane.
00:29:54
Speaker
Like the blocking of not being able to hear what she's saying, but knowing exactly what's happening.
00:30:00
Speaker
That's incredible.
00:30:02
Speaker
Billy Crystal is so good in this movie.
00:30:04
Speaker
The way that kind of stuff happens in this movie where the audience is kind of sharing a thought of like, yeah, this chick is kind of high maintenance, right?
00:30:14
Speaker
And then also just like him clearly being infatuated with her and so captivated and interested by this person who's so different than him.
00:30:24
Speaker
Everyone in this movie is on 10.
00:30:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:28
Speaker
Can I share my favorite Harry line?
00:30:32
Speaker
It's when they're like on a walk and he says, had my dream again where I'm making love and the Olympic judges are watching.
00:30:38
Speaker
I nailed the compulsory.
00:30:39
Speaker
So this is it.
00:30:39
Speaker
The finals.
00:30:40
Speaker
I got a 9.8 from the Canadians, a perfect 10 from the Americans.
00:30:43
Speaker
And my mother disguised as an East German judge gave me a 5.6.
00:30:46
Speaker
Must have been the dismount.
00:30:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's like that's perfect.
00:30:50
Speaker
Yeah, it's so genuinely like I compare all joke writing to 30 Rock It's a 30 Rock level joke Oh, 1000% It's a rural juror level joke It's something that Tracy would say Yeah, 100%
00:31:05
Speaker
It is almost because I want to bring a little bit of pushback on some stuff because I think we all, for the most part, love these movies as we're going to talk about them.
00:31:15
Speaker
But there were some moments that felt, and I'm not nagging at it because I love it, but almost felt forced and performative because it's like so clearly trying to put a joke in there that like, oh, sure.
00:31:29
Speaker
There's just a couple moments in particular, and I don't mind, you know,
00:31:34
Speaker
written line that's a banger feeling written but there's some stuff where you're almost like oh he's out of breath trying to fit this in like it was almost noticeable a few times but sure i also that's a minor gripe i chalk that up to billy crystal being a comedian first actor second yeah i think that's right it's a hundred percent it i think it's that like oh i'm sorry go ahead maddie well joe and i were talking about in saturday night how billy crystal was portrayed in saturday night
00:32:03
Speaker
And how it was such an accurate representation of Holy Crystal in that movie.
00:32:08
Speaker
It does feel like clips of stand-up bits from him sometimes in this movie.
00:32:14
Speaker
There's one joke.
00:32:14
Speaker
I don't mind that.
00:32:15
Speaker
And I cannot remember what the joke is.
00:32:17
Speaker
But there's one joke where I literally went, hmm, that's a Seinfeld joke.
00:32:21
Speaker
No, it was about food.
00:32:22
Speaker
It was about – it reminded me of the airline food.
00:32:26
Speaker
They're walking through the park.
00:32:27
Speaker
Yeah, I remember the setup, but I don't remember like the, I don't know, whatever.
00:32:32
Speaker
What's the deal with homeless people?
00:32:35
Speaker
The first like, that to me is I think it's just chalking it up to like, if I imagine that Billy Crystal is Harry Burns, it's like that guy is always trying to get the joke off.
00:32:46
Speaker
Oh, 100%.
00:32:47
Speaker
Like he is.
00:32:49
Speaker
Who are you pointing at, Matty?
00:32:49
Speaker
Who are you pointing at?
00:32:52
Speaker
All of us who just talk over each other for hours on end.
00:32:55
Speaker
But thinking about like the Casablanca thing.
00:32:57
Speaker
Yeah.
00:32:58
Speaker
Oh, it's so good.
00:32:59
Speaker
He's like, it's a constant recurring bit for him.
00:33:01
Speaker
It's something that he constantly wants to harken back to.
00:33:04
Speaker
And it's always this reference of what do you mean?
00:33:08
Speaker
You're not going to go with both.
00:33:09
Speaker
Like, what do you mean?
00:33:10
Speaker
Come on.
00:33:11
Speaker
Also, I love that nobody in this particular movie has seen a movie that came out after 1955.
00:33:17
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:19
Speaker
All of their references are like 40s movies.
00:33:21
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And I'm like, that's so inaccurate, but I love it.
00:33:25
Speaker
Speaking of the Casablanca shit, one of my favorite bits that they do in this movie is when she tells him, you said men and women can't be friends.
00:33:33
Speaker
And he goes, I would never say that.
00:33:35
Speaker
And then you're like, okay, so he just gaslit her just a little bit.
00:33:38
Speaker
But then later in the movie- He immediately is like, okay, I said it.
00:33:41
Speaker
But no, but then later in the movie, when he says, I can't believe that you would get on the plane instead of staying with Bogart.
00:33:47
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And she goes, I don't, I would never say that.
00:33:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:33:49
Speaker
It's like, oh, they are perfect for each other.
00:33:52
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Yeah, they got it.
00:33:52
Speaker
They got it.
00:33:53
Speaker
They're just so sweet too.
00:33:55
Speaker
Like, it's just like, like I will always love, like, I don't know.
00:34:01
Speaker
It's not, it's not quite enemies to lovers, but it basically is.
00:34:05
Speaker
And it's just such a fun trope every time.
00:34:07
Speaker
And also, yeah,
00:34:10
Speaker
For it to work, you need airtight dialogue.
00:34:13
Speaker
I was going to say for it to work, you need Carrie Fisher in the middle.
00:34:17
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It helps.
00:34:18
Speaker
That's the glue right there.
00:34:19
Speaker
Carrie is next level.
00:34:22
Speaker
The other one of my favorite scenes in this movie is right after they have sex and they both call their friends.
00:34:28
Speaker
That's actually my favorite scene.
00:34:30
Speaker
All of his split screening is phenomenal.
00:34:32
Speaker
So good.
00:34:33
Speaker
We should say this movie was shot by Barry Sonnenfeld.
00:34:35
Speaker
Yeah, shout out to the goat.
00:34:36
Speaker
Incredibly well shot.
00:34:39
Speaker
The other, speaking of the side characters, when Maddie and I were watching it, we were both dying at the double date scene where they're like, like trying to get them with each other.
00:34:51
Speaker
But instead, the two side characters fall in love like we knew was going to happen.
00:34:55
Speaker
But like her saying like that quote, he goes, oh, I wrote that.
00:35:02
Speaker
Nobody's ever quoted me to me before.
00:35:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:05
Speaker
I think it's the most like Nora Ephron shit in the world of Nora being a writer, married to a writer, director.
00:35:13
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Everyone she talks to is writers or actors is that it's like, of course, to Nora, like a great compliment is someone quoting you to you.
00:35:23
Speaker
The other thing about this movie that I wanted to talk about was The Fits.
00:35:28
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:35:28
Speaker
Thank you, Maddie.
00:35:30
Speaker
Literally was going to be my next transition.
00:35:31
Speaker
Thank you.
00:35:32
Speaker
It felt like every single time there was a new shot, I was like, that's a Vogue cover.
00:35:36
Speaker
That's a Vogue cover.
00:35:39
Speaker
I mean, for real, it was like look after look after look.
00:35:43
Speaker
And also, somehow, in every Nora Ephron movie,
00:35:47
Speaker
No matter where, like they were in like, in like the city and it was like fall and cold and they were wearing sweaters and hats and scarves.
00:35:59
Speaker
Somehow it felt like I was on the coast in the summertime with like a scarf flowing in the wind, eating a lobster roll.
00:36:09
Speaker
Somehow Nora Ephron does that.
00:36:11
Speaker
Like, even though it's like cold and winter, it feels like it's summertime and I'm like,
00:36:16
Speaker
on the East Coast.
00:36:17
Speaker
You know what I mean?
00:36:19
Speaker
Every movie of hers has like a real sense of place.
00:36:22
Speaker
Yes.
00:36:24
Speaker
She knows the blocks.
00:36:25
Speaker
It also very much blends Chicago and New York together.
00:36:29
Speaker
Oh, I think so too.
00:36:30
Speaker
Like it's also all the parts of New York that are the most like purely beautiful.
00:36:35
Speaker
It's like Central Park and Washington Square Park.
00:36:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:37
Speaker
It is very funny.
00:36:40
Speaker
At the beginning when she just lets him out of the car and he just starts walking through Washington Square Park, I'm like, where the fuck is he going?
00:36:45
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:46
Speaker
What the fuck are you going to do?
00:36:47
Speaker
You're just going to like water to Soho like Joe Biden walking into the Amazon.
00:36:51
Speaker
Are you going to NYU at age 48?
00:36:53
Speaker
Like what are you doing?
00:36:55
Speaker
When the movie starts and they're like, yeah.
00:36:57
Speaker
And you realize how old they are?
00:36:59
Speaker
We're graduating from college.
00:37:00
Speaker
And I'm like, no, Billy Crystal's 40.
00:37:02
Speaker
It's wild.
00:37:04
Speaker
Like Meg Ryan can pull it off.
00:37:05
Speaker
I think he's like 13 years older than her.
00:37:08
Speaker
Yeah.
00:37:08
Speaker
He's going to college at any age.
00:37:11
Speaker
You're right.
00:37:12
Speaker
Sure.
00:37:12
Speaker
But I think they're trying to sell that.
00:37:13
Speaker
He's like, we support what if what if he is like a 31 year old sleeping with under.
00:37:18
Speaker
Now, imagine the dark timeline where this movie is Meg Ryan and Chevy Chase.
00:37:25
Speaker
Oh, was that was that a potential?
00:37:27
Speaker
Just I'm just saying like comedians from the same time period.
00:37:30
Speaker
And like Chevy Chase was like considered very attractive.
00:37:33
Speaker
What if it what if it was Robin Williams?
00:37:36
Speaker
Oh, man, I just don't know.
00:37:38
Speaker
He's so high energy.
00:37:41
Speaker
His best romance movie is the fucking The Birdcage.
00:37:44
Speaker
And so coked out.
00:37:45
Speaker
Yeah, The Birdcage is terrific.
00:37:48
Speaker
But he can do it.
00:37:48
Speaker
He can subdue himself.
00:37:50
Speaker
In The Birdcage, he does.
00:37:51
Speaker
Yeah, for sure.
00:37:53
Speaker
I don't think anybody can be as good as Crystal, personally.
00:37:56
Speaker
Crystal...
00:37:58
Speaker
10 out of 10 for me in this movie.
00:37:59
Speaker
But I don't know.
00:38:01
Speaker
I think Robin could pull it off if you gave him a little headway.
00:38:05
Speaker
This is awesome because if you're rewatching the movie and you look away for a little bit, he does just turn into Mike Wazowski.
00:38:12
Speaker
I was literally just about to say that when we were watching.
00:38:15
Speaker
I was like, if you close your eyes and you just listen to his voice, that is the voice of a little green monster with one eye.
00:38:20
Speaker
It really is.
00:38:21
Speaker
The one time he like screams where he's at their apartment and he's really mad because he just saw his ex.
00:38:28
Speaker
I couldn't put that thing back where it came from.
00:38:30
Speaker
So help me.
00:38:31
Speaker
We both literally did that.
00:38:33
Speaker
Dude, it's the best.
00:38:35
Speaker
But all of his lines with Celia, like his girlfriend in Monsters, Inc., are just straight up like... Oh, it's just him putting the charm on.
00:38:42
Speaker
That's being like... You let me see me and you.
00:38:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:38:47
Speaker
I might watch Monsters, Inc.
00:38:48
Speaker
tonight.
00:38:49
Speaker
I haven't seen it in so long.
00:38:50
Speaker
Always a good choice for a rewatch.
00:38:52
Speaker
Yeah, dude.
00:38:52
Speaker
I watched it so much as a kid.
00:38:55
Speaker
When I'm going to Pixar, I always go to Ratatouille or one of the stories.
00:38:58
Speaker
I watched it again for the first time in a while when we did our Pixar episode.
00:39:02
Speaker
That ended up in the PGW Top 5, right?
00:39:04
Speaker
Yeah, it was in our Top 5 for sure.
00:39:07
Speaker
It's terrific.
00:39:08
Speaker
It's so good.
00:39:09
Speaker
I love it so much.
00:39:09
Speaker
I was a little worried for a second.
00:39:11
Speaker
We were Finding Nemo, Monsters, Inc., Ratatouille, Incredibles, and Toy Story 2.
00:39:16
Speaker
That's what it was.
00:39:17
Speaker
And the ending of that movie is, okay, Mike gets to be a comedian now.
00:39:22
Speaker
It's so amazing.
00:39:22
Speaker
Yeah, he just gets to be Billy Crystal as a monster.
00:39:24
Speaker
Yeah, he just gets to be like a Borscht Belt comedian that's played by Billy Crystal.
00:39:30
Speaker
It's so amazing.
00:39:31
Speaker
It's so good.
00:39:33
Speaker
It's just a...
00:39:37
Speaker
I'll just go ahead and say up at the top, this is my favorite rom-com.
00:39:42
Speaker
I find it to be really moving.
00:39:45
Speaker
I like every time, even like the fact that I know that I'm going to cry at the New Year's party is like him running down the street and then trying to flag down the cab.
00:39:58
Speaker
And Sally's like talking to Jess talking to Maurice.
00:40:01
Speaker
I just I got to go.
00:40:02
Speaker
They're like, are you fucking kidding?
00:40:03
Speaker
Like, it's going to be midnight in four minutes.
00:40:07
Speaker
Yeah.
00:40:07
Speaker
Just stay.
00:40:08
Speaker
Just stay.
00:40:10
Speaker
And.
00:40:12
Speaker
And the speech, the speech gets me every time because it's like, it's terrific.
00:40:15
Speaker
It is the most, it's extremely writer brain version of what you say to somebody who is the love of your life.
00:40:24
Speaker
But nobody would ever be that articulate in that moment.
00:40:27
Speaker
Especially after running 20 blocks.
00:40:30
Speaker
However, they're all feelings that each of us have.
00:40:35
Speaker
I'm sure that when Joe, if Joe wanted to sit down at his computer and write, what are the things that I love about Maddie and what are the little things that Maddie does that to anyone else would be frustrating or a little weird or would just be a standard quirk to me as they are
00:40:52
Speaker
The things that I will go to my grave thinking about my wife.
00:40:55
Speaker
Bullet point one on that list.
00:40:57
Speaker
She lets me fall asleep watching Braveheart every night.
00:41:02
Speaker
She doesn't care that I watch Family Guy.
00:41:07
Speaker
At the end of the movie, something I do love about rom-coms is that they do make you feel sappy.
00:41:13
Speaker
Like you feel...
00:41:16
Speaker
I love Joe, but after a rom-com, I feel more in love.
00:41:21
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:41:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:22
Speaker
At the end of the movie, Joe looked at me and he was like, I would run a bunch of blocks to tell you I love you.
00:41:29
Speaker
And I love you.
00:41:30
Speaker
Sappy Joe on the radar.
00:41:31
Speaker
And I was like, no, you wouldn't.
00:41:33
Speaker
No, you wouldn't.
00:41:37
Speaker
Joe, you don't even come inside when you pick me up from the airport.
00:41:39
Speaker
I did it.
00:41:40
Speaker
I picked you.
00:41:42
Speaker
Okay, listen, I have to explain myself because this is going out into the public.
00:41:46
Speaker
When my family, I was raised in a, the person picking you up from the airport goes to the car line and texts you that they're there.
00:41:55
Speaker
That's what I thought you did.
00:41:59
Speaker
And so I was like, every time I picked Natty up from the airport, I was like, okay, I'm here.
00:42:04
Speaker
I'm so happy to see you.
00:42:06
Speaker
And only after doing this three times did I find out every time she got back, she was so sad because all she wanted from me was to be waiting for her in the terminal.
00:42:15
Speaker
But I didn't... My fucking family did not train me for this.
00:42:20
Speaker
My family does not do that either, Joe.
00:42:21
Speaker
No, my family...
00:42:23
Speaker
My family goes inside and waits at the escalator that comes down from the San Antonio airport arrivals with, like, poster boards.
00:42:31
Speaker
Like, we're an inside-the-airport family for sure.
00:42:34
Speaker
But this... There's a whole thing about when Harry met Sally and, you know, like...
00:42:39
Speaker
Nobody had to tell Harry to run blocks to go meet Sally.
00:42:45
Speaker
You do it because you want to.
00:42:46
Speaker
You do it because you can't wait.
00:42:48
Speaker
This and then defend my boys here.
00:42:50
Speaker
Joe's a cheater is just like pure.
00:42:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:42:52
Speaker
I'm going to say this right here.
00:42:53
Speaker
I'm going to defend my boys.
00:42:58
Speaker
Never in my life have I ever waited for somebody at the airport.
00:43:01
Speaker
Never have I ever expected someone to be waiting for me at the terminal.
00:43:06
Speaker
You drive around the fucking airport lot.
00:43:10
Speaker
Exactly.
00:43:10
Speaker
So they land, you go landed heart and then they go, OK, around now.
00:43:17
Speaker
And you go, I had to check a bag.
00:43:19
Speaker
And then they go, OK, I'll make another circle.
00:43:24
Speaker
And I will say that what the way I responded to this when she said, no, you wouldn't.
00:43:28
Speaker
I was like, OK, no, but he wasn't running to go pick her up at the airport.
00:43:31
Speaker
He was running to apologize for being an ass.
00:43:34
Speaker
And I would fucking run across broken glass to apologize for being an asshole.
00:43:41
Speaker
Joe is a great apologizer.
00:43:43
Speaker
I am the one in the relationship that struggles to apologize.
00:43:46
Speaker
Fair enough.
00:43:47
Speaker
Good on you for admitting it.
00:43:49
Speaker
I like that we had some back and forth there.
00:43:51
Speaker
That was beautiful.
00:43:51
Speaker
Yeah, that was good.
00:43:52
Speaker
That was good banter.
00:43:54
Speaker
I love this movie so much.
00:43:55
Speaker
My favorite Nora Ephron movie is You've Got Mail.
00:43:58
Speaker
Always has been.
00:44:00
Speaker
Sleepless in Seattle also, Nora.
00:44:01
Speaker
Also incredible.
00:44:02
Speaker
I fucking love Sleepless in Seattle.
00:44:03
Speaker
Sleepless in Seattle is fucking amazing.
00:44:05
Speaker
I think when she gets like, and you've got mail and Sleepless in Seattle, it's just a little more high concept.
00:44:11
Speaker
And she finds so much more to like mine from that strange high conceptness.
00:44:18
Speaker
Like she made one of the great online movies of all time, like at the fucking like advent of the internet.
00:44:25
Speaker
Like it's incredible.
00:44:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:27
Speaker
Was Meg Ryan's most recent movie, was that Nora Ephron, the one that came out like a few years ago?
00:44:33
Speaker
No, Nora Ephron's been dead a long time.
00:44:35
Speaker
So sad.
00:44:36
Speaker
So that had me thinking because that movie was not very good.
00:44:40
Speaker
And I was like, the only thing that's different, like,
00:44:45
Speaker
Meg Ryan, her performance is so good, but I think it's really Nora Ephron that puts the rom-com over the edge.
00:44:53
Speaker
Yeah, I would say most of her best work is in the three Nora Ephron scripts that she made.
00:44:59
Speaker
That and In the Cut.
00:45:00
Speaker
Oh my God, In the Cut.
00:45:03
Speaker
This is something that we'll discuss with the rest of the movies, but the thing that I love about rom-coms is that they...
00:45:11
Speaker
Yeah, they're mostly completely unrealistic.
00:45:14
Speaker
There's reactions and actions people take and things people do and things people say that just truly would never happen to anyone.
00:45:23
Speaker
But what the rom-coms capture is the feelings.
00:45:28
Speaker
Because in a book, in a romance book, you have interiority and thought and you can hear into the mind of people falling in love.
00:45:35
Speaker
But in a movie, you have to show it.
00:45:38
Speaker
And so it's like almost like rom-coms are more poetry than realism.
00:45:44
Speaker
I think that's great because realistic romance movies are sad.
00:45:48
Speaker
Well, I think it's also like an ambition thing.
00:45:49
Speaker
Like everybody watches one of these movies and they're like, I wish I could tell somebody I love them like that.
00:45:55
Speaker
Like I would, I would end like that.
00:45:56
Speaker
It would make sense in the real world.
00:45:58
Speaker
You know, like I wish, I wish our lives were that poetic that we could get away.
00:46:03
Speaker
Cause this was the most rom-coms I've watched in a week, not being in a relationship.
00:46:08
Speaker
So this was a, this was interesting in different ways.
00:46:12
Speaker
See, I'm in a relationship with a person who doesn't like rom-coms.
00:46:16
Speaker
So it's a tough sell at my house.
00:46:18
Speaker
That's rough.
00:46:18
Speaker
But at least she wants to watch fucking Dogtooth again, huh?
00:46:21
Speaker
Yeah, she wants to watch Sicario or Dogtooth.
00:46:24
Speaker
Hey, both great options.
00:46:26
Speaker
I agree.
00:46:28
Speaker
I don't know.
00:46:28
Speaker
You still attribute me to it.
00:46:29
Speaker
It was a weird experience watching through the rom-coms.
00:46:33
Speaker
I'd seen two of these and hadn't seen two of the other ones.
00:46:38
Speaker
But it was interesting attributing this to idealization versus watching it with somebody.
00:46:45
Speaker
that was genuinely a first for me because most of the time you do watch rom-coms with people that you're either like involved with or want to be um so kind of just like what just like this introspective like watch was a little bit of a different experience for me i won't say it was like sorrowful or like depressing or anything like that
00:47:06
Speaker
But it was interesting.
00:47:08
Speaker
It very much made that turn in on you so much more so.
00:47:13
Speaker
Where do I fit in in this?
00:47:15
Speaker
What parts of these are my dreams matching up with experiences?
00:47:19
Speaker
So on and so forth.
00:47:22
Speaker
But I will say, all that being said, nothing beats watching a rom-com with somebody that you do love.
00:47:27
Speaker
It's funny because a lot of these movies, like if you like, like the main joke about rom-coms for a long time on like sitcoms and like in stand-up is that rom-coms are like porn for girls.
00:47:38
Speaker
And what's funny now is that you don't need to go to a rom-com.
00:47:42
Speaker
You could just go into the fantasy section of your Barnes and Noble and read some truly like heinous, like,
00:47:49
Speaker
like bordering on sexual assault porn.
00:47:52
Speaker
Yeah, pornographic materials.
00:47:54
Speaker
Marketed to women.
00:47:56
Speaker
Rom-coms aren't cutting it anymore.
00:47:57
Speaker
I need to see a dragon fuck the shit out of a princess.
00:48:03
Speaker
Shout out to Dragon Smut.
00:48:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:48:05
Speaker
Shout out to the young lady who was taking my order at Valley Mills Vineyards today.
00:48:10
Speaker
Speaking of Smut, that kind of brings us into the one of the next movies.
00:48:14
Speaker
Great, great transition to 10 Things I Hate About You.
00:48:18
Speaker
I was just really quick going to say Dragon D's Nuts.
00:48:22
Speaker
Yes.
00:48:24
Speaker
Yep.
00:48:25
Speaker
It's not going to get better than that.
00:48:27
Speaker
Red, what's another word for engorged?
00:48:31
Speaker
Alice in Janie and 10 things I hate about you is one of my favorite comedic performances of all time.
00:48:37
Speaker
She's perfect.
00:48:38
Speaker
She is truly.
00:48:40
Speaker
I mean, Alice in Janie is great in fucking everything.
00:48:42
Speaker
But in this movie, it's just like the haircut.
00:48:44
Speaker
It's perfect casting.
00:48:47
Speaker
It's perfect delivery.
00:48:49
Speaker
I don't know.
00:48:49
Speaker
It's just like every time she's on screen in this movie, I'm laughing.
00:48:53
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:48:54
Speaker
Well, her and Julia Stiles playing off each other is very, very high level.
00:48:59
Speaker
Julia Stiles?
00:49:00
Speaker
Oh, wolf?
00:49:03
Speaker
Her dancing on the table talking about sexual awakenings.
00:49:06
Speaker
So I always... Holy shit on my dick.
00:49:08
Speaker
I always inadvertently end up watching a bunch of movies concurrently that all have one person in common.
00:49:14
Speaker
This recent past couple weeks has been Julia Miles.
00:49:17
Speaker
You've been watching The Bourns.
00:49:18
Speaker
Yeah, because I rewatched all three Jason Bourne original trilogy movies.
00:49:22
Speaker
She's so hot in that Middleborn movie.
00:49:24
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:25
Speaker
Dude, Bourne Supremacy Styles is...
00:49:28
Speaker
Untouched.
00:49:28
Speaker
It's elite.
00:49:29
Speaker
The hottest.
00:49:29
Speaker
Do you remember when she was on a German in the first one?
00:49:32
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
00:49:33
Speaker
Pretty, pretty.
00:49:34
Speaker
I do.
00:49:34
Speaker
I do enjoy Dexter.
00:49:35
Speaker
Yeah, she's she had a good season of Dexter.
00:49:39
Speaker
Yeah, I fucking.
00:49:40
Speaker
So this is the movie of all of these that we're talking about today that I've seen the most by like a country mile.
00:49:46
Speaker
I've seen this one at least.
00:49:47
Speaker
I've seen it so many times.
00:49:48
Speaker
My older siblings like loved this movie.
00:49:51
Speaker
They were like 13 and 10 when it came out.
00:49:54
Speaker
So it was like perfect for them.
00:49:56
Speaker
And I
00:49:57
Speaker
So they, I watched it.
00:49:59
Speaker
I was probably too young.
00:50:00
Speaker
I mean, it's not like a super lurid movie or anything, but I was probably too young to hear a lot of it.
00:50:04
Speaker
It's a pretty smart movie.
00:50:06
Speaker
Like it's very smart.
00:50:07
Speaker
It's very smart.
00:50:08
Speaker
Also the, I, for whatever reason, I guess is a lens into my comedy when I was like, you know, eight or seven and watch this movie for the first time.
00:50:17
Speaker
I thought their dad was like the funniest movie character of all time.
00:50:21
Speaker
And he's great.
00:50:21
Speaker
Funny.
00:50:22
Speaker
Also in princess diaries.
00:50:24
Speaker
Right.
00:50:24
Speaker
He's the hairdresser in princess diaries.
00:50:26
Speaker
Oh yeah.
00:50:28
Speaker
But yeah, I love this movie so much.
00:50:31
Speaker
I think also like this movie, I'm glad we were talking about it because it catches a trend, which was like the 90 Shakespeare adaptations.
00:50:40
Speaker
100%.
00:50:40
Speaker
There were so many of those in just a few years.
00:50:42
Speaker
Yeah, Clueless.
00:50:44
Speaker
There was like Othello one set in a high school.
00:50:47
Speaker
I think it's just called O. There was a bunch of those, but it's a great little trend and this is the best one.
00:50:53
Speaker
Let me give you guys a couple other credits from the writing duo of this movie.
00:50:57
Speaker
Karen McCullough and Kirsten Smith.
00:51:00
Speaker
I'm curious about this because Gil Younger has nothing else in his catalog.
00:51:05
Speaker
These two women wrote Legally Blonde, The Ugly Truth, and 10 Things I Hate About You, as well as The House Bunny.
00:51:13
Speaker
Wow.
00:51:13
Speaker
House Bunny is great.
00:51:15
Speaker
House Bunny is actually a really good movie.
00:51:17
Speaker
It's really good.
00:51:18
Speaker
I really like House Bunny.
00:51:20
Speaker
Gil Younger, I think...
00:51:23
Speaker
What happened to Anna Faris?
00:51:24
Speaker
She got married and divorced from Chris Pratt.
00:51:27
Speaker
Yeah, that's what happened there.
00:51:29
Speaker
Yeah, I gotta respect her.
00:51:31
Speaker
I mean, I love Anna Faris in Smiley Face.
00:51:33
Speaker
She's fucking great in that movie.
00:51:35
Speaker
She is a great actor.
00:51:36
Speaker
Allison Janney?
00:51:39
Speaker
Anna Faris?
00:51:41
Speaker
It was called Mom.
00:51:42
Speaker
It was the Allison Janney show.
00:51:43
Speaker
I don't know if it's Anna Faris, but I know it's Allison Janney.
00:51:47
Speaker
Oh.
00:51:47
Speaker
Yeah.
00:51:49
Speaker
This movie is also the launch of David Krumholtz, still a very relevant figure.
00:51:52
Speaker
What a fucking guy.
00:51:54
Speaker
He's so good in this movie.
00:51:56
Speaker
You know what movie he's even better in?
00:51:57
Speaker
You know what movie he's even better in, Austin?
00:51:59
Speaker
Oppenheimer?
00:52:00
Speaker
A little film called Oppenheimer.
00:52:01
Speaker
Oh, baby.
00:52:02
Speaker
He's very good.
00:52:03
Speaker
My favorite performance in the movie.
00:52:04
Speaker
Joe, would you like it?
00:52:05
Speaker
I think.
00:52:06
Speaker
Isn't he also in Santa Claus?
00:52:09
Speaker
Yeah, he's Bernard.
00:52:10
Speaker
Goddamn right he is, Matty.
00:52:11
Speaker
He's Bernard.
00:52:11
Speaker
Drumholz in this movie frustrates me because the whole movie you're being told to think that he's a loser in Ugly and Gross and the whole time I'm thinking like, this guy fucking rules, man.
00:52:23
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:24
Speaker
Also, the other funny thing is that JGL in this movie is like the nerdy wimpy kid.
00:52:29
Speaker
And like, he's like, nobody wants to fuck Jordan, Jessica Gordon-Levitt.
00:52:33
Speaker
Cause he's like so nerdy.
00:52:34
Speaker
And like, look at his, like, look at his fucking hair.
00:52:36
Speaker
But if you put that character in a modern, in a movie from today, that's the guy that's getting all the bitches.
00:52:43
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:52:45
Speaker
But you also have Andrew Keegan as like the hottie who now I think is like a crazy Scientologist and
00:52:51
Speaker
Watching this movie, I'm like, dude, this is a sex pest.
00:52:55
Speaker
This guy fucking sucks.
00:52:56
Speaker
Oh, he sucks.
00:52:57
Speaker
When he holds up the two headshots and it's just the different t-shirts, that's one of my favorite visual gags in movie history.
00:53:04
Speaker
But it's followed by such a funny joke, too, because she says, you look pensive, and he goes, dang, I was going for thoughtful.
00:53:12
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:15
Speaker
Speaking of perfectly crafted jokes.
00:53:17
Speaker
Yeah, man.
00:53:18
Speaker
There's so many.
00:53:18
Speaker
That or when he's giving her the difference between the underwear versus the swimsuit modeling faces.
00:53:25
Speaker
That's like Blue Steel level modeling.
00:53:26
Speaker
It's truly Zoolander.
00:53:28
Speaker
It's the exact thing that he's parodying in Zoolander.
00:53:31
Speaker
What about male models?
00:53:33
Speaker
Yeah.
00:53:36
Speaker
oh my gosh he's so funny this um something else this movie does that i really appreciate is the just like okay if you have an actor that's an amazing actor and they happen to have an accent let them do their accent and you can put a throwaway line that justifies the entirety of their accent in there and it doesn't take much like he's like yeah i lived in australia till i was five
00:54:03
Speaker
And it's like, okay, cool.
00:54:04
Speaker
Got it.
00:54:04
Speaker
Yeah.
00:54:05
Speaker
And he's so much hotter for having the accent.
00:54:08
Speaker
Matty way in.
00:54:10
Speaker
accurate he's hot golly man uh i like to see it when him and when uh levitt and krumholz are in the bar and they're like uh the only other problem is that she likes pretty boys and he's like shooting pool and he stands up and he gets taller and he's like are you saying i'm not a pretty i'm not pretty boy no he's very pretty look at him he's so he's so pretty he's gorgeous which is accurate again accurate he's very beautiful it is like
00:54:36
Speaker
It's also cool when JJ goes, are you drinking a beer right now?
00:54:40
Speaker
Are you literally drinking a beer right now?
00:54:43
Speaker
Son of a bitch!
00:54:46
Speaker
Joe's camera fell again for the listener.
00:54:48
Speaker
Oh, we're getting a super cut of all the camera falls.
00:54:50
Speaker
Oh, that's fantastic.
00:54:52
Speaker
Something when we were watching this movie, this time, that I kept thinking about is like, so, dang it, names are not easy for me, but Joey, I think is his name.
00:55:05
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
00:55:06
Speaker
Joey keeps giving Bianca?
00:55:10
Speaker
No.
00:55:11
Speaker
Yeah.
00:55:12
Speaker
The guy.
00:55:14
Speaker
Oh.
00:55:15
Speaker
The what?
00:55:16
Speaker
The Joseph Gordon-Levitt guy?
00:55:17
Speaker
Heath Ledger?
00:55:17
Speaker
No.
00:55:17
Speaker
Heath Ledger.
00:55:18
Speaker
He keeps giving Heath Ledger money for all these dates.
00:55:23
Speaker
I wonder how much money that is.
00:55:24
Speaker
Because at first he's like, I'll give you 20 bucks.
00:55:26
Speaker
And I was like, 20 bucks?
00:55:27
Speaker
That's nothing.
00:55:28
Speaker
And I was like, wait a second.
00:55:29
Speaker
This was in 99.
00:55:30
Speaker
So I kept Googling.
00:55:32
Speaker
How much would that be?
00:55:34
Speaker
Adjusted.
00:55:35
Speaker
You gave me $300 at one point.
00:55:37
Speaker
It was like, so basically it's like double.
00:55:40
Speaker
So when he gave him like $300 for prom, that would be like shelling out $600.
00:55:45
Speaker
That's pretty good.
00:55:46
Speaker
To take out a beautiful lady?
00:55:48
Speaker
Come on.
00:55:48
Speaker
That's a lot of money.
00:55:49
Speaker
I think the movie also does a pretty good job.
00:55:51
Speaker
It does a pretty good job showing him take the money and also get to a point of just like, I'm taking the money because I can, but also... I like her.
00:56:04
Speaker
But also when he spends the full 300 on the band to do the fucking... Dude, can we talk about that scene?
00:56:12
Speaker
It's perfect.
00:56:12
Speaker
It's one of the best movie scenes of all time.
00:56:15
Speaker
It's fantastic.
00:56:16
Speaker
I have a very vivid memory of watching this movie for the first time.
00:56:20
Speaker
And my best friend Kyra in ninth grade in her house in her living room.
00:56:25
Speaker
We finished the movie and that scene, I just sat there, I think, with my jaw like on the ground.
00:56:30
Speaker
It's like, why wouldn't you?
00:56:31
Speaker
That when she like knees Joey in the crotch too.
00:56:34
Speaker
Is that is that that same scene or is that a little later?
00:56:36
Speaker
No, that's just when he's dancing on the stands.
00:56:40
Speaker
Okay, gotcha.
00:56:40
Speaker
Oh wait, I'm talking about the other band, like the marching band.
00:56:46
Speaker
I'm talking about the marching band.
00:56:47
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:56:48
Speaker
Okay, sorry.
00:56:49
Speaker
Austin was the only one that wasn't on track.
00:56:51
Speaker
We can throw things at him later.
00:56:53
Speaker
But then she was absolutely obsessed.
00:56:55
Speaker
My friend Kyra was absolutely obsessed with Heath Ledger after this movie.
00:56:58
Speaker
And because we were little theater girls, we printed off pictures of Heath Ledger.
00:57:02
Speaker
You don't have to justify that.
00:57:03
Speaker
We're all in the same boat here.
00:57:04
Speaker
No, but it's about to get really weird.
00:57:06
Speaker
Is that Heath Ledger and glued them to our foreheads.
00:57:11
Speaker
Oh, that's not what I thought you were going.
00:57:13
Speaker
I thought you were going to say like inside your locker or something.
00:57:16
Speaker
No, no, no.
00:57:16
Speaker
Foreheads is interesting.
00:57:18
Speaker
Can you explain why?
00:57:23
Speaker
You didn't want to see your friend.
00:57:24
Speaker
You just wanted to look at your friend and see Heath Ledger while talking to them.
00:57:28
Speaker
No, it was more... I don't know.
00:57:31
Speaker
If it was just... Maddie, I'm going to be honest.
00:57:33
Speaker
If it was just the four of us, I would say a really bad word right now.
00:57:37
Speaker
But you're here, so I'm going to be kind.
00:57:39
Speaker
Hey, Austin, you know when Leatherface takes someone's face off and wears it?
00:57:43
Speaker
That's what's happening here.
00:57:44
Speaker
Or when Nick Cage and John Travolta take their faces off.
00:57:47
Speaker
They take their faces off.
00:57:52
Speaker
I got to be honest, man.
00:57:53
Speaker
I think...
00:57:54
Speaker
I love 10 Things I Hate About You.
00:57:55
Speaker
It's a great movie.
00:57:59
Speaker
What's hilarious is I don't really view this as much of a rom-com.
00:58:03
Speaker
What I really view it as is that it's like this is just...
00:58:07
Speaker
an hour and 50 minutes of movie star.
00:58:11
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:11
Speaker
Like of, you're just like, Hey, and I think Julie styles had a movie star moment.
00:58:16
Speaker
And I think it's a great actress.
00:58:18
Speaker
And this movie really does get to give her some movie star moments, but really this is like showing you like, this is a person that,
00:58:26
Speaker
that unfortunately had he been given a lot more life, like he would have been the most important person on screen for 30 years.
00:58:35
Speaker
Yes.
00:58:36
Speaker
It's my third favorite movie by him and it's flawless still.
00:58:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:58:41
Speaker
I mean, he truly was such a gifted actor.
00:58:43
Speaker
It kind of, it kind of blows my mind that he, he can take like any role he was given.
00:58:48
Speaker
He just nailed and he was so intelligent and like the key paid a lot of attention to the craft of everything.
00:58:55
Speaker
And,
00:58:55
Speaker
And he had so much presence from the get-go.
00:58:58
Speaker
Did anyone else see the TikTok recently where the dude explains why A Knight's Tale is one of the most accurate sports movies of all time?
00:59:07
Speaker
No, I didn't.
00:59:08
Speaker
I have seen that.
00:59:09
Speaker
It's so awesome.
00:59:10
Speaker
I love that movie.
00:59:12
Speaker
I need to send it to the other two because it's just talking about like, yeah, just because they're like stomping and clapping a We Will Rock You is so that you understand what the vibe of a jousting match was like.
00:59:22
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
00:59:23
Speaker
I love the anachronism of the music in that movie.
00:59:25
Speaker
I think it's so good.
00:59:26
Speaker
It's so well done.
00:59:27
Speaker
Can I share my favorite Miss Perky line?
00:59:30
Speaker
Please.
00:59:31
Speaker
The way you express your opinion to Bobby Ridgway.
00:59:33
Speaker
By the way, his testicle retrieval operation went quite well in case you're interested.
00:59:37
Speaker
That's great.
00:59:38
Speaker
Testicle retrieval is wild.
00:59:41
Speaker
It's so good.
00:59:42
Speaker
Joe, were you going to ask who did Night's Tale?
00:59:44
Speaker
No, I was just going to ask who gives a shit if a movie is historically accurate.
00:59:47
Speaker
Yeah, for sure.
00:59:48
Speaker
Like everyone getting on Ridley Scott's dick about Gladiator 2 being historically inaccurate.
00:59:52
Speaker
I'm just like, hey, don't go watch the movie if you're going to be a fucking dork about it.
00:59:58
Speaker
Also, Paul Bettany playing Chaucer is just like...
01:00:02
Speaker
perfection all around.
01:00:03
Speaker
Just love it.
01:00:04
Speaker
Paul Bettany and Heath Ledger in anything, it's going to be a hit.
01:00:06
Speaker
I might need to rewatch Night's Tale after this.
01:00:09
Speaker
Paul Bettany and Heath Ledger in a moment of which they get to kiss.
01:00:13
Speaker
We'll give them a little rum-pum-pum.
01:00:15
Speaker
Paul Bettany's hog out in this one.
01:00:17
Speaker
Just put him up there on Brokeback Mountain with the boys.
01:00:20
Speaker
See what happens.
01:00:21
Speaker
Let's do Brokeback Mountain plus Challenger.
01:00:23
Speaker
Let's get three people up there.
01:00:25
Speaker
Well, like, Jack Twist.
01:00:27
Speaker
Jack Nasty!
01:00:28
Speaker
I think...
01:00:29
Speaker
Like anytime Brokeback Mountain gets brought up, I think of Knocked Up's, the Jonah Hill scene where he's like, I just want it.
01:00:35
Speaker
Why can't I?
01:00:36
Speaker
I'm grown up enough to watch these two men fall in love.
01:00:38
Speaker
At least let me see them fuck raw.
01:00:40
Speaker
Yeah.
01:00:43
Speaker
I want man on man action and I'm not seeing anything.
01:00:46
Speaker
Well, the thing about that movie is there's no male nudity, which is ridiculous.
01:00:50
Speaker
Ridiculous.
01:00:50
Speaker
But they also, they go straight for penetration.
01:00:53
Speaker
Like, they don't do any hand stuff.
01:00:55
Speaker
It's like the first time they're in bed together, he's like, I'm going to put my dick inside of you.
01:00:59
Speaker
And I'm just like, nah, chill out.
01:01:01
Speaker
Like, slow down.
01:01:02
Speaker
That's just Ang Lee going...
01:01:03
Speaker
I don't know how being gay works.
01:01:06
Speaker
I've never seen Brokeback Mountain.
01:01:08
Speaker
Oh my gosh.
01:01:09
Speaker
He's a masterpiece.
01:01:10
Speaker
There's two specific movies that a man my age, it's shocking that I haven't seen.
01:01:15
Speaker
Austin and I talked about the other one last time we saw each other in person.
01:01:19
Speaker
I haven't seen Brokeback Mountain.
01:01:21
Speaker
And then neither me or Austin have seen Braveheart.
01:01:25
Speaker
Wow.
01:01:26
Speaker
Really?
01:01:27
Speaker
Braveheart?
01:01:28
Speaker
It was not a big movie in my house.
01:01:32
Speaker
Braveheart is like... I've seen the clips of Braveheart I feel like I need to see.
01:01:36
Speaker
Braveheart's just like less cool gladiator to me.
01:01:39
Speaker
Yeah.
01:01:44
Speaker
The speeches are great.
01:01:46
Speaker
The battles are great.
01:01:49
Speaker
Mel is genuinely good in the movie.
01:01:52
Speaker
The plot sucks.
01:01:54
Speaker
Why would I watch Braveheart when I can watch The Simpsons and see Groundskeeper Willie?
01:01:59
Speaker
100%.
01:02:00
Speaker
Genuinely.
01:02:01
Speaker
However, I will say...
01:02:03
Speaker
we are all of the age of which like we saw so many parodies and jokes about Brokeback Mountain.
01:02:09
Speaker
And I didn't watch Brokeback Mountain until I was in my early 20s.
01:02:11
Speaker
It was a moment of which I was like, oh, this is a masterpiece.
01:02:16
Speaker
This is a beautiful, moving, like, the right day, the right time will make you like sheathen socks.
01:02:24
Speaker
I need to watch it ASAP because it is genuinely two of my favorite actors of all time.
01:02:28
Speaker
For sure.
01:02:30
Speaker
You mean Randy Quaid and Michelle Williams?
01:02:33
Speaker
Yeah, I'm talking about Quaid and Williams.
01:02:35
Speaker
Okay.
01:02:36
Speaker
You don't go up there to fish?
01:02:37
Speaker
You don't go up there to fish!
01:02:40
Speaker
It's truly one of the great moments in cinema history.
01:02:43
Speaker
It's so fucking good.
01:02:45
Speaker
Also, Anne Hathaway's character's name in that movie is Lorene.
01:02:47
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:49
Speaker
I have one more thing to say about 10 things I hate about you.
01:02:53
Speaker
The fact that this is just like a real high school that people went to.
01:02:59
Speaker
It's so beautiful.
01:03:01
Speaker
It's absurd.
01:03:01
Speaker
They have a fucking helicopter pad.
01:03:04
Speaker
The vistas when he's doing the song in the stands and you can see the ocean and the mountains.
01:03:11
Speaker
It's like mountains.
01:03:12
Speaker
It's crazy.
01:03:13
Speaker
I'm very jealous of it.
01:03:16
Speaker
I know this doesn't take place in Portland, but it's obviously close-ish.
01:03:21
Speaker
But I remember visiting my brother when he lived in Portland.
01:03:23
Speaker
No, it's Seattle.
01:03:24
Speaker
Yeah, it's a Seattle-type deal.
01:03:27
Speaker
But I remember visiting my brother in Portland and just walking through a neighborhood.
01:03:31
Speaker
I went to the original Stumptown location.
01:03:34
Speaker
Oh, nice.
01:03:35
Speaker
There's a school just up the block from that place that's similar to this.
01:03:40
Speaker
And you just walk through the neighborhood and you see that and you're like, this is just a public school.
01:03:45
Speaker
This is just where people grew up going to school.
01:03:48
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:48
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:50
Speaker
I don't know.
01:03:50
Speaker
We're all from just like Texas or Oklahoma.
01:03:53
Speaker
So it's very... Not a ton of that left, you know?
01:03:56
Speaker
Not quite.
01:03:57
Speaker
Yeah.
01:03:57
Speaker
Sad.
01:03:58
Speaker
What are you going to do, man?
01:03:59
Speaker
What are you going to do?
01:04:00
Speaker
What are you going to do?
01:04:02
Speaker
Maddie.
01:04:05
Speaker
It's frustrating for me because my dad went to Punahou, which is where Obama went.
01:04:10
Speaker
He went to where?
01:04:14
Speaker
And then my mom went to Duncanville High, which is one of the most Texas powerhouses for sports and stuff.
01:04:20
Speaker
Yeah, basketball and football powerhouse.
01:04:23
Speaker
Any given Sunday.
01:04:25
Speaker
Exactly.
01:04:25
Speaker
Even Friday.
01:04:27
Speaker
I think you mean Friday Night Lights.
01:04:29
Speaker
Hey, how about you Friday Night Lights my penis?
01:04:33
Speaker
Oh, you show my hog some Friday Night Lights.
01:04:39
Speaker
How about that?
01:04:39
Speaker
Speaking of hog, let's talk about Hugh Grant.
01:04:42
Speaker
Yeah, baby.
01:04:44
Speaker
The biggest asshole who happens to be so fucking charming.
01:04:47
Speaker
Yeah, and probably has a giant hog.
01:04:48
Speaker
I'll talk about Hugh Grant later on in this episode, too.
01:04:51
Speaker
Yeah, he probably has a giant hog, but there's no way he fucking knows how to use it.
01:04:55
Speaker
If Hugh Grant is good at sex, I'll eat my hat off my head.
01:04:59
Speaker
He does not munch box.
01:05:00
Speaker
I can guarantee you that.
01:05:01
Speaker
I'm going to disagree.
01:05:03
Speaker
I think Hugh Grant lays pipe.
01:05:06
Speaker
He's only interested in his own gratification.
01:05:08
Speaker
He's too selfish.
01:05:10
Speaker
Yeah, there's no way.
01:05:12
Speaker
I'm saying that he lays pipe.
01:05:15
Speaker
He knows how to use that thing and that thing alone.
01:05:18
Speaker
Do you mean it's something we're going to start talking about the movie Notting Hill?
01:05:22
Speaker
Amen.
01:05:22
Speaker
Yeah.
01:05:23
Speaker
We are going to direct it by.
01:05:24
Speaker
Who's it directed by?
01:05:26
Speaker
Roger.
01:05:26
Speaker
No, Roger.
01:05:27
Speaker
Show me.
01:05:28
Speaker
Paul King.
01:05:29
Speaker
It's directed by Paul King because this is a Paddington movie and it's my favorite of the Paddington movies.
01:05:35
Speaker
It's really not.
01:05:36
Speaker
My favorite part of the movie is when Julia Roberts shows up and she has a tag on her coat and it says, take care of this very special American hottie.
01:05:45
Speaker
Yeah.
01:05:48
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but i i like i can't emphasize enough notting hill is a paddington movie and i mean that in the most celebratory way possible absolutely like what plus having hugh grant and bonneville in it it's just like yeah yeah this is true and one of the blocks in the movies is the same block from the paddington movies oh yeah that makes sense
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I mean, it's a Richard Curtis movie and the Pannington movies are very influenced.
01:06:13
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This was one of two movies that was a first watch for me.
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And like, I cannot emphasize enough.
01:06:19
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Notting Hill has like skyrocketed into my upper echelon of movies.
01:06:23
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It's fucking great, man.
01:06:25
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So good.
01:06:26
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Also, while I'm on this, I want to point out we could not have picked more white movies.
01:06:36
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Oh, my God.
01:06:38
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Oh, yeah.
01:06:38
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It was a single person of color, even like pseudo Asian.
01:06:45
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Gabrielle Union and 10 Things I Hate About You, the best friend.
01:06:48
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Yeah, and also it's hilarious to picture Dwayne Wade watching 10 Things I Hate About You and being like, yo, this dumb bitch gonna be my wife.
01:06:55
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She's really mean and stupid.
01:06:59
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She's so mean.
01:07:01
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I mean, she starts fucking Joey.
01:07:03
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Her character is just the epitome of like, you are a dumb idiot.
01:07:10
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But yeah, no, just yeah, very white movies.
01:07:14
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I usually don't.
01:07:15
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I honestly don't think about that stuff very much.
01:07:18
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But going through these four movies was like, holy shit, dude, a lot of white folks.
01:07:22
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Yeah.
01:07:23
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Yeah.
01:07:23
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Well, I mean, that's also the problem with like mainstream Hollywood is that like if it's a black romance movie, it's tragic.
01:07:30
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You know, it's love and basketball fucks.
01:07:33
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I think love and basketball is like kind of isn't that an indie movie, though?
01:07:38
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Yeah, it's Gina Prince Blythwood, but it made a bunch of money.
01:07:42
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But yeah, what I'm saying is like when people think of rom-com, they think of studio rom-coms.
01:07:48
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Yeah.
01:07:50
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And there's a lot of great like indie romances.
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But like, I think that's the fault of the Hollywood system for thinking that.
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like in the 90s and, you know, in the 70s through now that people don't want to see not white rom-coms.
01:08:04
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Yeah, it's a shame because they're doing it now, but it's more like a Mad Lib for, like, what you need to include.
01:08:10
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There's been a few fun ones.
01:08:12
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Like, there's the one with the – I like Kumail's The Big Sick.
Movie Critiques: 'The Big Sick' and More
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The Big Sick is fucking great, man.
01:08:18
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And then his movie with Issa Rae in New Orleans I think was pretty fun.
01:08:22
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Oh, that one was really good too.
01:08:24
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I mean, there's Jonah Hill's rom-com with a fucking, what's her name?
01:08:29
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I can't remember who the female lead is of that flick.
01:08:32
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Ah, hold on.
01:08:32
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Eddie Murphy's the dad, right?
01:08:34
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Yeah, and he plays a black Israelite.
01:08:36
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It's so funny.
01:08:36
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Oh, dude, that movie fucking sucks so bad.
01:08:39
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Did you hear that they had to CGI the kids because she didn't want to kiss Jonah Hill?
01:08:43
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Isn't it called You People?
01:08:45
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Yes.
01:08:46
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It's called You People.
01:08:47
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Yeah.
01:08:47
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I'll tell you.
01:08:48
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It's funny.
01:08:48
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Great fucking title.
01:08:49
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If it wasn't Jonah Hill.
01:08:50
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It's a funny movie.
01:08:51
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A funny title.
01:08:52
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I've never watched it.
01:08:53
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What a fall from grace.
01:08:54
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Lauren London.
01:08:55
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Just don't.
01:08:56
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Yeah.
01:08:56
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I don't plan on it.
01:08:57
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I don't plan on it.
01:08:58
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Because it's him and the guy who made Black-ish, right?
01:09:02
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Yeah.
01:09:03
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Wrote it together.
01:09:04
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Yeah.
01:09:04
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Oh, yeah.
01:09:05
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It sucks because Sam Jay is in it.
01:09:07
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And one of my favorite comedians, Sam Jay is hilarious.
01:09:09
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Sam Jay rules.
01:09:11
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What are you going to do?
01:09:11
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People make bad decisions.
01:09:12
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And David Duchovny's in it.
01:09:14
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Oh, does he play his dad or something?
01:09:16
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I'm going to go ahead and say this.
01:09:18
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Dude, motherfucking Elliot.
01:09:18
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Joe, you said this on multiple episodes.
01:09:20
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What's up?
01:09:20
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You know his name is David Duchovny, right?
01:09:23
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No, I'm pronouncing it wrong on purpose.
01:09:26
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Oh, man.
01:09:27
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You're an X-Files fan.
01:09:28
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How dare you?
01:09:29
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David Duchovny sounds so much cooler than David Duchovny.
01:09:32
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No, it doesn't.
01:09:33
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No, Duchovny sounds like a chode.
01:09:36
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Duchovny sounds like I'm throwing up.
01:09:38
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Duchovny.
01:09:38
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In the words of Agent Gordon Cole, fix your heart or die.
01:09:42
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Hey, I'm sorry.
01:09:46
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I just have to do a little bit of an interstitial.
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We wish David Lynch the very best.
01:09:51
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Oh, yeah.
01:09:52
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Yeah, man.
01:09:53
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He's truly like one of the great American filmmakers and a person.
01:09:58
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And Netflix is going to let his last project die because
Analysis of 'Notting Hill'
01:10:01
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they hate art.
01:10:02
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And so I just I wish him the best He seems like the kind of person Who will continue to try to make art As long as he can PGW says fuck Netflix And I don't care If I'm writing a script And Netflix is gonna pick it up And they find this podcast And they're like We don't wanna work You said fuck Netflix I'm like I wasn't gonna sell it to you anyway bitch Yeah Ted Sarandos More like Ted Sarandos Don't How about you Ted Sarandos I'll write it here on my penis Hey Matty Can you talk to us about Notting Hill Yeah
01:10:31
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I like it.
01:10:34
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That's a great review.
01:10:36
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Maddie is so tired of our bullshit.
01:10:38
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It's crazy.
01:10:39
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What, Red?
01:10:40
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Was this a first watch for you or a rewatch?
01:10:42
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This was a rewatch.
01:10:43
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Okay, great.
01:10:44
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But Joe and I watched it last Christmas season.
01:10:48
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Oh, great.
01:10:50
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But it was a rewatch.
01:10:52
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And it's one of my favorites.
01:10:54
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And specifically for two reasons.
01:10:58
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The first is the way that they do the time passing, like the year passing scene.
01:11:05
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I love that.
01:11:08
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Just creative, the way that the street changes and they tell like stories within stories when he's walking down the street.
01:11:15
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It's a very detailed, intricate, smart, well-written script.
01:11:20
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I just, I think that it's my, I don't want to say like my theater background because I did theater in high school.
01:11:25
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You can say that, it's okay.
01:11:27
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But like, I think because like, that's such a theater way to tell time, not a movie way.
01:11:33
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And so I think it's very creative.
01:11:35
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Yeah, it's very Richard Curtis.
01:11:37
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Of course, I'm just a girl standing in front of a guy asking him to love her is classic.
01:11:44
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It's one of the great of all time.
01:11:47
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I watched...
01:11:48
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Let the Right One In today, and my Letterboxd review of that was, I'm just a girl standing in front of a boy asking him for dinner.
01:11:56
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Matty, just so you know, Let the Right One In is a romance movie about two children, and one of them happens to be a vampire.
01:12:04
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It's very heartbreaking.
01:12:06
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It's very Swedish.
01:12:07
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Really good.
01:12:08
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Really Swedish, though, for sure.
01:12:11
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I will just, as the Georgian on this podcast...
01:12:17
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I think there are a lot of things that I love about Georgia.
01:12:20
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I love rap music.
01:12:22
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I love that a lot of movies are filmed in Atlanta.
01:12:25
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I love Zaxby's.
01:12:27
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He loves the Walking Dead.
01:12:29
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Red is the biggest Walking Dead, specifically post-season three.
01:12:33
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He never stops talking about it.
01:12:34
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I love Waffle House.
01:12:35
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Waffle House is my favorite restaurant on earth.
01:12:38
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I unfortunately have hitched my wagon to the Atlanta Falcons and the Georgia Bulldogs.
01:12:42
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The greatest thing to come from the state of Georgia is Julia Roberts.
01:12:47
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Julia Roberts is a national fucking treasure.
01:12:49
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She is maybe the greatest to ever do it.
01:12:52
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Hey, that's that good promising Welsh blood, fellas.
01:12:56
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Oh, yeah.
01:12:57
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She is very Welsh.
01:13:00
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No, there's nobody named Roberts who doesn't have Welsh blood.
01:13:03
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Yeah, somewhere in there.
01:13:05
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Isn't that part of the 22 Jump Street?
01:13:07
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Julia Roberts.
01:13:08
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Julia Rob Hertz.
01:13:10
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Oh.
01:13:13
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I have not thought about that in a long time.
01:13:14
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That's so good.
01:13:15
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22 Jump Street rips, man.
01:13:18
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She's also the centerpiece of one of my favorite movie sequences of all time, which is the Julia Roberts bit in Ocean's 12.
01:13:24
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Yes.
01:13:25
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The best.
01:13:26
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When she says he doesn't make me cry, it's every goddamn time.
01:13:30
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Does it make you laugh?
01:13:32
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He doesn't make me cry.
01:13:34
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Zach, I have to tell you that I am also a Roberts.
01:13:37
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Are you?
01:13:38
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My mom's maiden name is Roberts.
01:13:40
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Yeah.
01:13:40
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Let's go.
01:13:41
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Well, Roberts and O'Shaughnessy.
01:13:44
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So you got Welsh Irish.
01:13:46
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well irish is like why the fuck are you not a coal miner why are you not covered in soot 24 hours a day eating potatoes i just like i know like when i think of irish people when i think of irish people i think of guys who are dirty yeah for sure like beautiful look me in the face and say it my dad has always attributed like
01:14:12
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The men in my family, we have powerful legs, I would say.
01:14:17
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And my dad has, ever since I can remember growing up, just been like, yeah, us Welshmen, we have strong legs so we can plow the fields.
01:14:25
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You have a strong third leg, if you know what I mean?
01:14:28
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Hey, hey, hey, hey.
01:14:29
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Awesome, strong legs to plow the fields.
01:14:34
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You're going Barry Keegan on those fields.
01:14:36
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I was going to say, Barry Keegan is who I picture when I think about Irish guys.
01:14:40
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The beautiful Irish women that have come from that country, they're like from another planet.
01:14:44
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They're not Irish.
01:14:45
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They're not Irish.
01:14:46
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They're not Irish.
01:14:48
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I'm not even trying to hear.
01:14:50
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I'm not even trying to like talk shit on myself.
01:14:52
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Yeah, but Paul Mezcal is basically a woman.
01:14:54
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That's fair.
01:14:55
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I'm not trying to talk shit on myself, but it's like when you think about what Irishmen actually look like, is there guys who were built like me where it's like they're like 5'8 with broad shoulders and life just hates them.
01:15:09
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Yeah.
01:15:10
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My father.
01:15:11
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My grandfather and his father.
01:15:14
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Yeah.
01:15:14
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And they can't feel their feelings.
01:15:16
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And like that fucking the John Mulaney bit about being Irish and like experiencing grief is like bury the boy.
01:15:25
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I'm Scottish, so that just means I have too many consonants in my last name.
01:15:30
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That's the only fucking thing it means.
01:15:31
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I went to, I was, yeah, it's the famine.
01:15:36
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Our ancestors sent the genes down that said, hold on to everything that you can because you might experience a famine.
01:15:45
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And I will very quickly talk about my, the hatred of the crown.
01:15:51
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oh for sure fuck the British fuck the crown fuck the empire like there's always been like the the Killian Murphy picture of him like bugging down on uh it was Prince William right yeah and now Paul Mezcal has one with King Charles exactly Paul Mezcal has one with the king that's just equally like the fuck out of my breathing air yeah
01:16:14
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I will say very quickly about the Rankin side of the family.
01:16:18
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Rankin is a Scottish last name.
01:16:19
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My mother is a Connelly, which from what I understand is a bastardization of O'Connell.
01:16:28
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I was describing to somebody, I was at True Love on Friday, and they were out of Modelo's in the back.
01:16:34
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And so I got a PBR.
01:16:35
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And I said, I'm just following in the footsteps of my grandfather.
01:16:39
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My grandfather, Robert Joseph Connelly, my namesake.
01:16:44
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was the son of an Irish immigrant who became a Boston cop.
01:16:49
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My great father was an Irish immigrant who became a Boston cop.
01:16:53
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And then my granddad joined the army at a very young age, went to fight.
01:16:58
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He was at the beaches of Normandy, fought in Korea, but he, like many Irish men of his age, loved beer and loved heart attacks.
01:17:10
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I believe he had three or four.
01:17:13
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The red meat, the beer, and the cigarettes will do that to you.
01:17:16
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Unfortunately, I never got to meet him.
01:17:18
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Yeah, he passed away right before my mom turned 16.
01:17:23
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But I would imagine a lot of that comes to beer, cigarettes, red meat, and keeping all of his emotions in.
01:17:29
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But he would come home every night.
01:17:32
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Every night he would come home from work.
01:17:33
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He would kiss all five of his children.
01:17:37
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He would say, hi, I love you.
01:17:38
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He would give them a hug.
01:17:39
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He would give them a kiss.
01:17:40
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And then he would go and he would sit in his recliner and he would drink a Pabst Longneck in his recliner.
01:17:46
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I've never seen a Pabst Longneck.
01:17:49
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That's Irish-American shit.
01:17:51
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He would come home and say, my little women.
01:17:53
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And then he would drink a Pabst Longneck.
01:17:55
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He would go full Bob Odenkirk on their asses.
01:17:57
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Which is even funnier because my mom and her brother...
01:18:01
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are quite literally Irish twins.
01:18:03
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They are 11 months apart.
01:18:05
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Wow.
01:18:05
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Damn.
01:18:06
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They're a poor grandmother.
01:18:08
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God bless her.
01:18:09
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God bless her, Jane Connolly.
01:18:10
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For a woman's body to recover from birth.
01:18:14
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It also makes me think of that new Mulaney joke that he did on SNL when he's like, oh, yeah, we're holding down traditional family ideals by having nine kids.
01:18:21
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And he's like, no, no, no.
01:18:24
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You have nine and you keep four.
01:18:27
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Five die with a sniffle and you have four kids, which is a manageable amount of kids.
01:18:34
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The Irish just have never taken that to heart.
01:18:36
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Speaking of Notting Hill, I just saw this in my periphery.
01:18:40
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Were we speaking about Notting Hill?
01:18:42
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Tangentially.
01:18:43
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Speaking of, apparently they made Paddington Happy Meal books.
01:18:50
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Oh, beautiful.
01:18:51
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Whoa!
01:18:52
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And I feel like we need that back in our culture.
01:18:55
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For sure.
01:18:57
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You want a Notting Hill Happy Meal book?
01:18:59
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I do want a Notting Hill Happy Meal book.
01:19:01
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But I also, when I think of this movie, I also think of the Liz Lemon quote when she's dating, or when she's trying to date Wesley, the British guy.
01:19:09
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And she goes, Jenna, do you remember that scene, the beautiful scene where they're on that beautiful bench in Notting Hill?
01:19:16
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And Jenna's like, yeah.
01:19:17
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And she goes, well, I would rather watch that awful movie 30 times than to be on a date with Wesley again.
01:19:23
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Which is awesome because it's like Alec Baldwin plays such a funny character in the movie.
01:19:28
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Oh, yeah.
01:19:29
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It's fantastic.
01:19:31
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He's so funny.
01:19:32
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It's funny to me that he's uncredited.
01:19:35
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I know, it's strange.
01:19:37
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But what are you going to do?
01:19:39
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Anyways, about this movie, I think it's hilarious that Hugh Grant's character is just like conventionally kind of hot as shit.
01:19:48
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And also just like clueless.
01:19:51
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Oh, he's so dumb.
01:19:54
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He's a dummy.
01:19:54
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He's a dummy dumb.
01:19:56
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You know what's fucking awesome this movie, though?
01:19:57
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It's fucking Reesey Fawn.
01:19:59
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Yeah, dude.
01:20:01
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Spike rules.
01:20:02
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Spike's the best.
01:20:04
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Which is funny because I think all of us are of a certain age that if I had been shown Notting Hill relatively early in life because it was a Julia movie and my parents were like, oh, Julia's from Georgia.
01:20:15
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My parents, yeah, yeah, yada.
01:20:17
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But like, so I knew who Reesey Fawn was, but I think there's like a large portion of people who are sort of in our age range.
01:20:23
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We're all within like three years of each other that are like, oh, Reesey Fawn, you mean the fucking lizard from the Spider-Man movie?
01:20:29
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Yeah, from The Amazing Spider-Man.
01:20:30
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Nice.
01:20:30
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Yeah.
01:20:31
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Yeah.
01:20:32
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No, for real.
01:20:33
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I think that's fair.
01:20:34
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One of the things I want to say about Notting Hill before we move on is there's this there's a review on Letterboxd I found for this movie that truly like kind of sums up exactly how I feel about how this movie is not just a good romcom.
01:20:44
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It's just a great movie.
01:20:46
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As the review says, this is formally the best romcom I've ever seen on my binge.
01:20:52
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Apparently this guy's doing a romcom binge.
01:20:55
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Easy to forget that it's a hybrid genre, necessitating characters who can appear in both kinds of movies, and that the filmmaker is thus challenged to have said characters develop in
1999 Oscars Reflections
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both movies, parallel and simultaneously, synchronized tightrope acrobatics, no doubt buoyed by the charms of Roberts and Grant, but impossible without a structurally sound screenplay that takes an impossible or at least deeply improbable premise and roots it in deeply real fake people.
01:21:21
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Yeah, dude, I want to watch the space movie that Julia Roberts is in.
01:21:24
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Yeah.
01:21:26
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And also to like, I don't know, to have emotions be felt in the movies that they're filming in this movie that like...
01:21:36
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carry over.
01:21:37
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I don't know.
01:21:38
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This script is just perfect.
01:21:41
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There are some scripts that are like movies that I watch.
01:21:43
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I like it.
01:21:44
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Like I'm picturing the screenplay, writing it in my head.
01:21:46
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Cause you know, my brain works at this point.
01:21:48
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And a lot of movies I'm like, ah, you know, with enough time and given the right idea, I could have written that.
01:21:54
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Um,
01:21:55
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When Harry Met Sally and this movie, I genuinely don't think I can... I don't know how they wrote these movies.
01:22:02
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I think these two movies out of the four we're talking about are the most closely related in the sense of, like, they have the snappiest, like, just jokes built into every other line.
01:22:13
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Yeah.
01:22:14
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I'll be honest.
01:22:15
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Like, I don't... I always just look at the 99 Oscars, which has some...
01:22:25
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99's pretty fucking good outside of the American Beauty sweep.
01:22:29
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But honestly, you could drop American Beauty.
01:22:30
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I don't see why not.
01:22:32
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Well, I think that American Beauty was such a zeitgeist-y movie.
01:22:36
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It was so 1999.
01:22:39
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But watching it any point past 1999, you're like, what the fuck is this bullshit?
01:22:43
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It's so stupid.
01:22:45
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I mean, Best Action in a Leading Role goes to Hilary Swank in Boys Don't Cry, which I think is kind of unassailable.
01:22:50
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I think that movie is a really tough watch for...
01:22:53
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Yeah.
01:22:54
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Obvious reasons.
01:22:55
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But I think I think Boys Don't Cry is actually like a kind of an incredible flick.
01:22:58
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And it's one of those things where if you if you said if you said we're going to give her another Oscar in six years, like for Million Dollar Baby, like does she need that first one?
01:23:07
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You know, it's like Hilary Swank having two Oscars in lead actress is kind of wild to think about.
01:23:12
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Just to bring Annette Bening in lead for American Beauty.
01:23:15
Speaker
I think Annette Bening is the best part of American Beauty by far.
01:23:18
Speaker
Janet McTeer in Tumbleweeds, which I think is kind of weird.
01:23:20
Speaker
Yeah.
01:23:21
Speaker
Julianne Moore in the end of the affair, I think actually Julianne Moore should have been nominated for Magnolia, which I think... Julianne Moore should be nominated for everything she's ever done.
01:23:30
Speaker
Most things that she's been in.
01:23:31
Speaker
Yes.
01:23:31
Speaker
Same page.
01:23:32
Speaker
And Meryl Streep, Music of the Heart, which I think Music of the Heart is fine.
01:23:36
Speaker
Meryl Streep's just gonna get nominated if she's in something.
01:23:38
Speaker
But, like, you're telling me Roberts, like, she's...
01:23:42
Speaker
Next goddamn level in this flick, man.
01:23:45
Speaker
Dude, I... There's one particular part of this movie that is so fucking good, and it's a really small, fleeting moment, but whenever that old, like, just kind of that oafy motherfucker tries to walk into the bookshop...
01:24:01
Speaker
when Hugh Grant and Julia Roberts are just trying to figure out their final stuff.
01:24:06
Speaker
He's just like, no, get out.
01:24:07
Speaker
Get the fuck out.
01:24:09
Speaker
No, we're talking here.
01:24:10
Speaker
Don't even think about coming in here.
01:24:13
Speaker
That shit's so good to me.
01:24:14
Speaker
Just those small moments.
01:24:16
Speaker
That character has already been baked into this movie, and you don't need really any nuance to understand what's happening here.
01:24:23
Speaker
It's just like, hey, dude, I don't know what the fuck is going on right now,
01:24:28
Speaker
but I do know that I do not need you here for it.
01:24:31
Speaker
And I'm trying to figure this shit out and I don't know what I'm doing.
01:24:35
Speaker
Please leave.
01:24:36
Speaker
Yeah.
01:24:37
Speaker
Maddie, any, any thoughts on Notting Hill you want to rattle off before we move on to what if?
01:24:42
Speaker
No, but I thought of another one of my favorite rom-coms.
01:24:45
Speaker
Oh, please.
01:24:46
Speaker
Hitch.
01:24:47
Speaker
Hitch.
01:24:48
Speaker
Oh, Hitch is great.
01:24:49
Speaker
That, that should have been on this list, huh?
01:24:52
Speaker
I put it on the list that you guys could choose from.
01:24:54
Speaker
You didn't choose it.
01:24:55
Speaker
That's true.
01:24:56
Speaker
You gave us a lot of options.
01:24:57
Speaker
You gave us a lot of options.
01:24:59
Speaker
I consider Hitch to be a perfect airplane movie.
01:25:02
Speaker
Yeah.
01:25:04
Speaker
For sure.
01:25:04
Speaker
You're never going to be upset.
01:25:06
Speaker
After I left that youth group Valentine's Dance that I met Joe at, that's the movie.
01:25:12
Speaker
Damn.
01:25:13
Speaker
Okay.
Favorite Romantic Comedies
01:25:14
Speaker
Crucial film.
01:25:15
Speaker
One last thing because we were talking about Hilary Swank.
01:25:18
Speaker
Just to recall The Office again, that episode is so good.
01:25:20
Speaker
Yeah, Hilary Swank, hot or not.
01:25:22
Speaker
Yeah.
01:25:24
Speaker
good.
01:25:25
Speaker
You guys fuck with My Best Friend's Wedding.
01:25:27
Speaker
Speaking of the Julia.
01:25:28
Speaker
I've never seen it.
01:25:29
Speaker
I don't know that I've seen it either.
01:25:30
Speaker
Oh, it's a good point.
01:25:32
Speaker
I'm telling you.
01:25:34
Speaker
That was one of the ones that I brought up that I think Diaz is actually really good in.
01:25:37
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
01:25:38
Speaker
We talked about Diaz.
01:25:39
Speaker
We need to do a Chuck Russell episode and talk about the mask.
01:25:46
Speaker
We've brought a Chuck Russell episode up in the last three episodes of the podcast.
01:25:50
Speaker
I think it's actually the last four.
01:25:52
Speaker
Yeah.
01:25:53
Speaker
It is.
01:25:54
Speaker
Back to Halloween.
01:25:55
Speaker
Okay.
Movie 'What If' Discussion
01:25:56
Speaker
So we are moving on to 20 something somethings.
01:26:00
Speaker
What if it's 13th.
01:26:02
Speaker
It is 13.
01:26:03
Speaker
We basically put this movie on the list specifically so that Austin could talk about it because I know that he loves it so much.
01:26:08
Speaker
But I really would love before Austin talks for Maddie to say her piece.
01:26:12
Speaker
Please.
01:26:13
Speaker
No, absolutely.
01:26:14
Speaker
And then I want Austin to go ad nauseum about Iron Driver and Daniel Radcliffe.
01:26:20
Speaker
Yeah, I can do it.
01:26:22
Speaker
I didn't like it.
01:26:23
Speaker
Okay.
01:26:25
Speaker
This was a first time watch.
01:26:26
Speaker
This was a first time watch.
01:26:27
Speaker
I didn't like it.
01:26:29
Speaker
Because it's just not...
01:26:31
Speaker
Like, and I know, I know what the response to what I'm about to say is going to be.
01:26:37
Speaker
But I'm going to say it and then let me ask.
01:26:40
Speaker
Okay, hang on.
01:26:40
Speaker
Here I go.
01:26:41
Speaker
It's just not realistic.
01:26:44
Speaker
And like, neither is, you know, Notting Hill.
01:26:48
Speaker
Neither is, you know, whatever.
01:26:50
Speaker
But I just, I'm watching it.
01:26:53
Speaker
You just didn't buy it?
01:26:53
Speaker
Like, you didn't buy the relationship?
01:26:55
Speaker
Yeah.
01:26:56
Speaker
Yeah.
01:26:57
Speaker
And also, I will say, where I agree, I like this movie.
01:27:01
Speaker
I think it's perfectly fine.
01:27:02
Speaker
I think it's the perfect inoffensive movie.
01:27:07
Speaker
It's kind of just like an inoffensive movie.
01:27:10
Speaker
However, the lead couple being named Shantry and Wallace makes me want to punch a white person in the face.
01:27:16
Speaker
Dude.
01:27:17
Speaker
Yeah.
01:27:18
Speaker
I can't argue with that.
01:27:19
Speaker
I...
01:27:20
Speaker
Again, want to hear Austin talk ad nauseum about it.
01:27:23
Speaker
I kind of agree with Maddie because it is my least favorite of the four.
01:27:28
Speaker
By a large margin for me.
01:27:30
Speaker
Zoe Kazan's character just makes no sense.
01:27:35
Speaker
She's very annoying and doesn't make any emotionally rational decisions at once in this flick.
01:27:41
Speaker
I do also think that, at least for me, I just missed that, like...
01:27:48
Speaker
quirky, like, um, what's the word for like Zoe Deschanel?
01:27:53
Speaker
She's very... I was literally about to say she wants to be Zoe Deschanel so bad in this movie.
01:27:59
Speaker
I just missed that like Tui era.
01:28:01
Speaker
Like, I'm too young for that, and so I think I don't get it.
01:28:06
Speaker
Sure.
01:28:06
Speaker
I think you were born in the right time for Tui.
01:28:08
Speaker
I just think that your mom, like, I don't think you watched them.
01:28:12
Speaker
I think you watched older movies.
01:28:13
Speaker
Yeah, because your mom's 50 and fucking...
01:28:16
Speaker
let's be honest let's be real come on crossover episode between PGW and 50 we'd have a great time
01:28:27
Speaker
Hey, Maddie, get a little closer to your mic if you can.
01:28:30
Speaker
Mom and Mindy would love that.
01:28:32
Speaker
We'll just talk about Something's Gotta Give for two hours.
01:28:35
Speaker
Great flick.
01:28:36
Speaker
Maddie, you and I have to watch Something's Gotta Give.
01:28:38
Speaker
That's a great movie.
01:28:39
Speaker
That's a 15 fucking movie.
01:28:41
Speaker
I will say, I think for me, the real thing that's missing from What If is like a movie star-ness.
01:28:48
Speaker
I think besides Adam driver, right?
01:28:52
Speaker
And that's what I was about to say is that it's like, is that it's like driver when driver and Davis are on screen, when driver and Mackenzie Davis are on screen is you're like, Oh, Mackenzie Davis is obviously not like a movie movie star, but she's like, she's got real deal presence.
01:29:07
Speaker
And also I heard driver together.
01:29:09
Speaker
They fucking carry.
01:29:10
Speaker
I want their movie.
01:29:11
Speaker
You know what I mean?
01:29:12
Speaker
Yes, dude.
01:29:12
Speaker
That's where I'm at.
01:29:13
Speaker
I think this was a good movie.
01:29:15
Speaker
I did not dislike it at all.
01:29:16
Speaker
I actually really liked it.
01:29:18
Speaker
Yeah.
01:29:20
Speaker
But Radcliffe and Kazan do not hold a candle to any of the energy that Driver is bringing to this movie.
01:29:26
Speaker
Also, I have to check in because I made a comment.
01:29:28
Speaker
I want to see if I was correct.
01:29:30
Speaker
Red, when Mackenzie Davis lights four cigarettes at the same time, did you die?
01:29:36
Speaker
You ever bust a nut so hard that your head explodes?
01:29:40
Speaker
That your vision goes blurry?
01:29:44
Speaker
Here's the thing.
01:29:46
Speaker
And maybe for the rest of us, we actually talk about this movie on our Legacy Sequels podcast.
01:29:50
Speaker
The first time I ever saw Mackenzie Davis was in a little flick called Blade Runner 2049.
01:29:53
Speaker
And I was like...
01:29:57
Speaker
Who's that tall drink of water?
01:30:00
Speaker
Correct.
01:30:01
Speaker
I need that tall drink of water to belittle me.
01:30:06
Speaker
To step on me, tall drink of water.
01:30:08
Speaker
That young lady is something else.
01:30:12
Speaker
Hey, that young lady's pretty gorgeous over there.
01:30:14
Speaker
Hey, he's pretty gorgeous.
01:30:16
Speaker
And then she just continued to work in great stuff, Halt and Catch Fire.
01:30:19
Speaker
I like her episode of Black Mirror.
01:30:21
Speaker
Yeah.
01:30:23
Speaker
San Junipero.
01:30:24
Speaker
Oh, my God.
01:30:25
Speaker
Yeah.
01:30:25
Speaker
Which is one of the greats.
01:30:26
Speaker
I actually just had the conversation earlier today sitting at the winery.
01:30:29
Speaker
I think is perhaps the best.
01:30:31
Speaker
I think I would agree with you, Joe.
01:30:32
Speaker
I think it's the best Black Mirror episode.
01:30:34
Speaker
It's definitely up there.
01:30:37
Speaker
I actually really like, for the most part, Happiest Season, the Rhyme Con season.
01:30:43
Speaker
I do too.
01:30:43
Speaker
With Kristen Stewart.
01:30:44
Speaker
With Kristen Stewart and Aubrey Plaza.
01:30:45
Speaker
Aubrey Plaza.
01:30:47
Speaker
That movie feels so lost to time because of COVID.
01:30:51
Speaker
But I wonder what the version of Driver and Davis' movie would be, because I kind of think the movie writes them just well enough to be the perfect side characters.
01:31:05
Speaker
But it really is a moment.
01:31:06
Speaker
Their movie would just be Girls, the show.
01:31:09
Speaker
Yeah, this character is very close to Adam on Girls.
01:31:12
Speaker
The charisma that they have is just next level.
01:31:16
Speaker
I watched the pilots and girls.
01:31:18
Speaker
I had seen of What If were from Girls.
01:31:21
Speaker
I mean, first clip.
01:31:24
Speaker
We watched the first episode and when him and Lena Dunham fucked for the first time, Matty was like, I don't
01:31:29
Speaker
I don't like this.
01:31:31
Speaker
You're not supposed to.
01:31:33
Speaker
Welcome to everyone else who's watching girls in 2024 being like, oh.
01:31:36
Speaker
They don't seem to be, they don't seem to like each other.
01:31:39
Speaker
Why are they fucking like that?
01:31:40
Speaker
I'm a girls defender.
01:31:42
Speaker
I love girls.
01:31:44
Speaker
I'm sure it's good, but that first episode was so off-putting sexually.
01:31:47
Speaker
There's a great, if anybody is interested, there's a great one, like a bottle episode of girls called American Bitch.
01:31:57
Speaker
um where it's uh leon adunow's character goes to interview a writer in his apartment played by matthew reese oh my god like hottie mctotty bearded matthew reese with like long hair gorgeous gorgeous and he's just like this is the husband from the americans matthew reese yeah the hot the hottie hot but he if anybody's interested in just like watching it's my favorite episode of girls and i like a lot of episodes of girls
01:32:22
Speaker
Real quick sidebar about Matthew Reese.
01:32:24
Speaker
Did y'all watch the Perry Mason?
01:32:30
Speaker
Yeah, I watched the first season.
01:32:31
Speaker
I really liked the first season.
01:32:34
Speaker
I liked it.
01:32:35
Speaker
I never caught up with the second season.
01:32:36
Speaker
I already watched it.
01:32:38
Speaker
I liked it a lot.
01:32:39
Speaker
I'm a huge Americans fan too, so I'm a fan of his broadly.
01:32:43
Speaker
Can I do my piece on what if?
01:32:46
Speaker
Please.
01:32:46
Speaker
I think you're the one that brought it to the table.
01:32:48
Speaker
Yeah, I think
01:32:52
Speaker
Firstly, I saw this at a good point.
01:32:55
Speaker
I think I was like 19.
01:32:55
Speaker
I watched it probably 2016, 2017.
01:32:58
Speaker
Awesome.
01:32:59
Speaker
You're how much older than me?
01:33:01
Speaker
A year.
01:33:01
Speaker
I was born in 97.
01:33:03
Speaker
I was like 18, 17 when I watched it.
01:33:05
Speaker
Yeah, yeah.
01:33:06
Speaker
So it hit me at a good time.
01:33:07
Speaker
And being a giant Harry Potter fan, I'm always interested in the career choices that Daniel Radcliffe has made over his life and where he's gone, what directions he's gone down.
01:33:17
Speaker
Yeah.
01:33:19
Speaker
And there was something about it.
01:33:21
Speaker
First of all, massive crush on Zoe Kazan.
01:33:24
Speaker
I'm just going to say it.
01:33:25
Speaker
I was massively offended when you all tried to compare her to Zooey Deschanel because she's 20 million times the actor Zooey Deschanel will ever be.
01:33:32
Speaker
So just putting that out there.
01:33:33
Speaker
I love New Girl.
01:33:34
Speaker
I'm a huge New Girl fan.
01:33:36
Speaker
Let's put that out there.
01:33:37
Speaker
But she could not hold Zooey Deschanel's fucking lunchbox.
01:33:43
Speaker
In my opinion.
01:33:43
Speaker
But I can see that.
01:33:46
Speaker
Smiths.
01:33:48
Speaker
Well, I can see where you're coming from with that comparison just based on the character she's playing.
01:33:53
Speaker
But she literally wrote, Zoe Kazan literally wrote the great treatise of our time on the Manic Pixie Dream Girl, which is Ruby Sparks.
01:34:02
Speaker
So, you know, she knows what she's doing.
01:34:06
Speaker
But I...
01:34:08
Speaker
I don't know.
01:34:08
Speaker
It just hit me at the right time.
01:34:11
Speaker
I love, and I understand that it's not realistic.
01:34:13
Speaker
I love the scene of them stripping on the beach and then like just staring at each other naked.
01:34:19
Speaker
I'm like...
01:34:20
Speaker
To me, it really works.
01:34:21
Speaker
I buy their chemistry like a thousand percent because they're both really fucking terrible at life.
01:34:26
Speaker
I also love that that scene comes back into play later in the movie where it's like, hey, don't try to bullshit me like you didn't do this shit.
01:34:34
Speaker
Well, here's the thing.
01:34:35
Speaker
I loved that scene.
01:34:37
Speaker
I just think that the movie didn't play with that enough.
01:34:41
Speaker
I can see that.
01:34:42
Speaker
I think that Zoe Kazan's character kept making decisions.
01:34:47
Speaker
I'm not going to call her Chantry.
01:34:48
Speaker
I'm not going to say that name anymore.
01:34:50
Speaker
Zoe Kazan's character just doesn't react to things in a way that is believable to me.
01:34:59
Speaker
They got done with that scene and they do the whole we were watching it and when they take away their clothes and only have one sleeping bag, Maddie was like, oh, this is a romance novel trope.
01:35:09
Speaker
I think so
01:35:11
Speaker
A little closer to the mic, Medeo.
01:35:13
Speaker
It's called Snowed in One Bed.
01:35:15
Speaker
Yeah.
01:35:16
Speaker
Okay.
01:35:16
Speaker
That's good.
01:35:17
Speaker
I like that.
01:35:17
Speaker
That kind of lends itself to, I think, what took me out of this movie.
01:35:21
Speaker
And I'll say I liked this movie.
01:35:23
Speaker
I really did.
01:35:24
Speaker
It's very, like I said, it's very inoffensive.
01:35:26
Speaker
You're not going to hate this movie.
01:35:28
Speaker
There's some elements that take me out of it a little bit.
01:35:33
Speaker
After Ben punches Daniel Radcliffe's character, we five minutes later hear her saying, I don't really know if we're together or not.
01:35:42
Speaker
And I'm like, what the fuck?
01:35:44
Speaker
Clearly, what you showed us is you had some blowout fight where he's an asshole and you're done.
01:35:51
Speaker
And now you're like, I'm not sure.
01:35:53
Speaker
And then she's like, I've been lying to myself.
01:35:57
Speaker
It's like, I don't like this.
01:35:59
Speaker
But also, the only time they ever show Ben being an asshole is when he comes home with that other girl.
01:36:06
Speaker
But it seems like...
01:36:08
Speaker
He just did that for plot reasons because right before he left, he was really sweet to her.
01:36:14
Speaker
Yeah.
01:36:15
Speaker
Well, I also, I think there's something to seem that awful to me in this movie.
01:36:19
Speaker
And no, he's not, he's not bad.
01:36:21
Speaker
He's just not perfect.
01:36:22
Speaker
And she's got the guy in her life for who, for whom she is perfect.
01:36:26
Speaker
I, and to me that that's what that delineates.
01:36:29
Speaker
But I also think like for me personally, yeah, there's something to like, I grew up with,
01:36:36
Speaker
It's going to sound like a homebred.
01:36:37
Speaker
A lot of female friends.
01:36:38
Speaker
I didn't get along with guys growing up.
01:36:40
Speaker
I had a lot of female friends.
01:36:41
Speaker
And so, yeah, shocker.
01:36:43
Speaker
Jesus Christ.
01:36:46
Speaker
Wow, Joseph.
01:36:47
Speaker
Hey, dude, I'm in the same fucking boat.
01:36:49
Speaker
Yeah.
01:36:50
Speaker
Yeah.
01:36:50
Speaker
I don't know about you guys.
01:36:51
Speaker
I don't know how to talk to guys.
01:36:52
Speaker
Me of the boys, been tight forever.
01:36:55
Speaker
Yeah, the boys came to me later.
01:36:57
Speaker
Girls can kick rocks.
01:36:58
Speaker
Okay.
01:36:58
Speaker
Except Matty-O.
01:36:59
Speaker
Matty-O's wonderful and dear friend.
01:37:01
Speaker
Matty-O's wonderful and dear friend.
01:37:02
Speaker
Matty-O's wonderful and dear friend.
01:37:04
Speaker
Yes.
01:37:04
Speaker
So I did.
01:37:05
Speaker
But then when I got to high school, you know, that became a problem because I started falling in love with all these girls and like, you know, that I was friends with who had boyfriends.
01:37:15
Speaker
And I was just like, this is this sucks.
01:37:17
Speaker
Like, so I've always found a lot of relation in that feeling of just being like the person who I am so in love with, I would kill myself is with another person.
01:37:27
Speaker
And like, what do you do about that?
01:37:29
Speaker
And I do think the movie.
01:37:31
Speaker
even in its unlike unrealistic moments really gets at the heart of that feeling in a special way.
01:37:38
Speaker
And I feel like that's not, it's not the most explored feeling in movies like this.
01:37:42
Speaker
Argue with me, Joe.
01:37:44
Speaker
Is this a romance movie for guys?
01:37:47
Speaker
Maybe.
01:37:48
Speaker
I think it's more for guys than it is for girls.
01:37:51
Speaker
Because I was just about to say, not to sound too Andrew Tate on this podcast, however, this movie, How I Met Your Mother, The Office, raised an entire generation of fucking beta males who can't ask a girl out and share their honest impressions with how they feel.
01:38:09
Speaker
So here's something that's related to that somewhat.
01:38:12
Speaker
But this movie for me.
01:38:13
Speaker
Yeah, I know, Matty.
01:38:14
Speaker
I know I was talking about myself.
01:38:16
Speaker
I was raising these stupid fucking shows.
01:38:19
Speaker
This movie to me was Flight of the Conchords in the sense that it was more interesting than it was moving.
01:38:26
Speaker
Okay.
01:38:27
Speaker
I can see that.
01:38:29
Speaker
But I also do want to say, just while I'm doing my spiel, I love Adam Driver.
01:38:33
Speaker
This is one of the first things I saw him in.
01:38:34
Speaker
This is probably the first or second thing I saw Mackenzie Davis in.
01:38:38
Speaker
I love their plot line.
01:38:40
Speaker
I agree with you that, like...
01:38:42
Speaker
I that could not be a movie like that.
01:38:45
Speaker
The reason it's so good is because it's color.
01:38:47
Speaker
You know, it's like it's you could not make a movie about them, even though I if they told me like, hey, we have an hour and a half because they're so good.
01:38:55
Speaker
Like for sure.
01:38:56
Speaker
Does not deliver a bar in this movie that is not like incredible.
01:39:01
Speaker
But you can't have a lead character that says, I just had sex and I'm about to eat nachos.
01:39:05
Speaker
That has to be the – it's just like a nodding hill.
01:39:07
Speaker
It's like I wouldn't want to watch Spike's movie, but Spike is perfect.
01:39:11
Speaker
I don't want to watch Spike's movie.
01:39:13
Speaker
You guys don't want to watch Spike's movie.
01:39:15
Speaker
I'm sorry.
01:39:15
Speaker
No.
01:39:16
Speaker
It's just – I'm with you on.
01:39:17
Speaker
It's going to be really annoying if you have to keep seeing that for an hour and a half, in my opinion.
01:39:21
Speaker
No, you're 100% right.
01:39:22
Speaker
I'm just –
01:39:23
Speaker
You, their relationship, Adam Driver and Mackenzie Davis, their relationship, the same as that scene in Notting Hill where they're going through, like, their relationship to me is like passage of time.
01:39:38
Speaker
Yeah.
01:39:38
Speaker
They met, got engaged, got married, got pregnant, had a baby.
01:39:45
Speaker
In that order, throughout all of Wallace and Shea.
01:39:50
Speaker
Everything goes...
01:39:51
Speaker
Yeah, Adam Driver's character got his shit together before either of our two leads could honestly say how they felt to each other.
01:40:00
Speaker
I also, I don't know if I've seen a Radcliffe performance outside of... Oh, nope.
01:40:06
Speaker
I actually, while I'm saying this, take it back.
01:40:09
Speaker
I really like Woman in Black.
01:40:11
Speaker
That's a really good horror movie.
01:40:12
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
01:40:13
Speaker
I've never seen it.
01:40:14
Speaker
I mean, Radcliffe is fantastic in Swiss Army Man.
01:40:18
Speaker
That's what I was getting to.
01:40:19
Speaker
It's the only performance I've been able to totally get out of Harry Potter for Radcliffe is Swiss Army Man.
01:40:26
Speaker
But like I said, when I was starting to say that thought, Woman in Black is a very, very good movie in my opinion.
01:40:34
Speaker
I'm trying to think if there's anything else.
01:40:35
Speaker
I mean, I like him in this as I've made clear.
01:40:40
Speaker
He just made choices.
01:40:42
Speaker
Like, that's what I appreciate about him is like, I think Emma Watson's been in some good movies.
01:40:47
Speaker
I don't think she's ever been amazing and stuff.
01:40:49
Speaker
But like,
01:40:50
Speaker
Like, Daniel Radcliffe is not in a ton of, like, great movies, but he's always doing just batshit insane stuff, which I appreciate.
01:41:00
Speaker
Yeah, at the height of his stardom.
01:41:01
Speaker
I've never seen the Akimbo movie, but all the clips I've seen from, like, behind the scenes are really hilarious.
01:41:08
Speaker
I mean, this is a guy who, at the height of his stardom, right after Harry Potter finishes, he gets on stage.
01:41:13
Speaker
Yeah, it does Equus.
01:41:14
Speaker
It does Equus.
01:41:15
Speaker
Yeah, it goes hog out on stage.
01:41:18
Speaker
Yeah.
01:41:18
Speaker
And he's done a ton of theater in both London and New York.
01:41:22
Speaker
That's how you have to break typecasting.
01:41:23
Speaker
The only way to break typecast is to hog out.
01:41:25
Speaker
It's to show hog.
01:41:26
Speaker
Yeah.
01:41:27
Speaker
It helps.
01:41:27
Speaker
Hog out.
01:41:28
Speaker
Can't think about him as the cute little Harry Potter kid anymore.
01:41:32
Speaker
You think about it as the hog boy?
01:41:33
Speaker
Yeah, he's the hog boy.
01:41:34
Speaker
The hog boy.
01:41:35
Speaker
Bring in the hog boy.
01:41:36
Speaker
The hog who lived.
01:41:39
Speaker
yeah but i've probably i've probably seen what if like four times i didn't rewatch it this week but i i feel like i have pretty good recall of it um and it just i don't know there's something about it i i just find them both very charming i love zoe kazan as an actor i really like the dressing room scene oh yeah that one's good too that feels true to life great rom-com shit yeah yeah yeah i like really well executed
01:42:05
Speaker
Any final thoughts on what if before we move on to everyone's favorite part of the show?
01:42:09
Speaker
Because it means Maddie gets to go to bed.
01:42:13
Speaker
Maddie's got work tomorrow.
01:42:15
Speaker
Hey, Maddie, we're in this together.
01:42:17
Speaker
We are going to control the gremlins.
01:42:19
Speaker
I have work tomorrow and then I have class till 10.
High and Low Podcast Segment
01:42:22
Speaker
Oof.
01:42:22
Speaker
Yeah, it's a long day.
01:42:23
Speaker
Any final thoughts on What If before we move on?
01:42:25
Speaker
No, I'm good.
01:42:26
Speaker
I would recommend it.
01:42:27
Speaker
For all my criticism, it is a fun and charming movie.
01:42:31
Speaker
I 100% agree.
01:42:33
Speaker
Another great airplane movie.
01:42:36
Speaker
This is currently on Pluto TV, which is at 2B's Uglier Cousin.
01:42:40
Speaker
Please, watch it on Pluto TV.
01:42:42
Speaker
You're going to have, like, actually... You'll have fun....time watching it.
01:42:45
Speaker
Yeah.
01:42:46
Speaker
Yes.
01:42:46
Speaker
As much as, like, we are four nerds who get really hyper-specific and Maddie is someone who loves rom-coms and can get specific, like, we can nitpick all we want.
01:42:56
Speaker
I think most of us would say it's a very enjoyable flick that you should check it out.
01:43:00
Speaker
If you like rom-coms, I would say check it out.
01:43:01
Speaker
Listen to grizzly bear in 2012.
01:43:04
Speaker
You're going to like, I love this.
01:43:07
Speaker
Do I have the movie for you?
01:43:09
Speaker
Do you have opinions on little dark age?
01:43:11
Speaker
Well, you should watch this flick.
01:43:14
Speaker
Little green cars.
01:43:15
Speaker
Great band.
01:43:16
Speaker
Great.
01:43:17
Speaker
There you go.
01:43:17
Speaker
This movie.
01:43:19
Speaker
Folks, we are entering into the Akira Kurosawa high and low.
01:43:23
Speaker
The high and low, for those of you who are uninitiated, is where each member of PGW and whichever one of our guests happen to be on that week are going to talk about our favorite piece of media we consumed that past week and our least favorite piece of media we consumed that past week.
01:43:36
Speaker
We'll kind of popcorn around.
01:43:38
Speaker
I'll pick somebody off rip and then they will tell us who they want to go next.
01:43:42
Speaker
And we'll continue with that until we end.
01:43:44
Speaker
Miss Maddie, are you ready to go?
01:43:45
Speaker
I can go.
01:43:47
Speaker
I would love to hear from you.
01:43:48
Speaker
Okay, I'll start with my least favorite piece of media I consumed.
01:43:58
Speaker
Oh, I know exactly what my least favorite piece of media I consumed.
01:44:02
Speaker
I think this was last night.
01:44:05
Speaker
It might've been Friday night.
01:44:07
Speaker
Joe and I did watch an entire episode of the Doodle Bops on YouTube.
01:44:12
Speaker
Oh yeah, okay.
01:44:14
Speaker
from playhouse disney yep i remember the doodle bops um and it was fine we both kept saying we both kept saying it's like that episode of new girl where everyone gets sick and they're watching the puppet show on the computer yeah the crazy korean puppet show yeah i stopped watching this but i did watch an entire episode of the doodle bops
01:44:36
Speaker
For no reason.
01:44:37
Speaker
Okay.
01:44:38
Speaker
So that would be my low.
01:44:40
Speaker
My high was, so I am a documentary girly through and through.
01:44:46
Speaker
Excellent.
01:44:47
Speaker
There's a new documentary on Hulu that I watched that I was laughing out of glee.
01:44:53
Speaker
I had so much fun watching and learning.
01:44:56
Speaker
There is a documentary on Hulu that just came out about the Stanford prison experiments.
01:45:02
Speaker
Oh, interesting.
01:45:03
Speaker
I'm very intrigued.
01:45:04
Speaker
The men, like the boys that were in the experiment were interviewed.
01:45:10
Speaker
Wow.
01:45:10
Speaker
Wow.
01:45:11
Speaker
nobody's ever talked to them before and it just like combined so many of my interests I had so much fun learning turns out the Stanford prison experiments are totally debunked I had no clue everything that we've like learned about them is wrong and it's like nobody took the time to talk to the boys that were involved in it and I like serious it's three episodes and when Joe and I were watching it I just kept being like I'm having so much fun like yeah
01:45:42
Speaker
I looked at Joe and I said, I think the way that I'm feeling right now is the way that you feel when you watch a really good movie.
01:45:48
Speaker
Yeah.
01:45:49
Speaker
When he watches Chow Yun-fat shoot somebody in the face.
01:45:52
Speaker
Hell yeah.
01:45:54
Speaker
Indeed.
01:45:55
Speaker
Indeed.
01:45:56
Speaker
That's me, mate.
01:45:58
Speaker
Indeed and well met.
01:46:00
Speaker
Miss Maddie, who do you want to hear from?
01:46:02
Speaker
I'll hear from Jojo.
01:46:04
Speaker
Oh, Joe.
01:46:05
Speaker
Okay.
01:46:06
Speaker
My, I couldn't have two more different movies.
01:46:11
Speaker
My love the week is Stavros Hauke is this.
01:46:14
Speaker
Let's start a cult.
01:46:16
Speaker
Damn, man.
01:46:17
Speaker
It's just so frustrating.
01:46:19
Speaker
Cause I love Stavros.
01:46:21
Speaker
I think he's funny.
01:46:23
Speaker
I think he's charming.
01:46:24
Speaker
I think he is, has pretty good politics for a comedian.
01:46:28
Speaker
Yeah.
01:46:29
Speaker
Him dunking on Burt Kreischer was one of my favorite podcast experiences of all time.
01:46:34
Speaker
When Burt Kreischer is like, yeah, I just think comedians have higher brains than normal people.
01:46:39
Speaker
And Star Wars goes, what the fuck are you talking about?
01:46:42
Speaker
Yeah.
01:46:44
Speaker
All you do is take your shirt off, you dumb son of a bitch.
01:46:48
Speaker
However, as much as I love Stavros as a comedian, he is a very bad actor.
01:46:53
Speaker
And I've given him a try twice.
01:46:57
Speaker
He's not good in tires, and he's not good in this.
01:46:59
Speaker
No, he's very bad in tires.
01:47:01
Speaker
It's really frustrating because...
01:47:04
Speaker
What he was trying to do is something that I empathize with, which he wanted to bring back in the Adam Sandler 90s era of comedy where it's just a straight comedy.
01:47:13
Speaker
It's got a goofy premise, got a ton of funny people in there, and you just have fun making it.
01:47:18
Speaker
But what is the problem here is that nobody behind the camera knew how to make a movie.
01:47:25
Speaker
Mm hmm.
01:47:27
Speaker
So I kept comparing it to Rap World because they're both made by a group of comedians and it's featuring a bunch of funny different cameos from comedians that I like.
01:47:39
Speaker
But one of them
01:47:41
Speaker
they Connor O'Malley not only knows how to make a movie, however, he also tapped a guy to direct the movie that has been making short films for years.
01:47:52
Speaker
Like, like he just knew how to film and edit a movie.
01:47:57
Speaker
Whereas, uh, let's sort of cult has some of the worst editing I've ever seen in my entire life.
01:48:02
Speaker
Rap world.
01:48:03
Speaker
I watched for the third time in a month.
01:48:06
Speaker
last night.
01:48:07
Speaker
And the person I watched it with, Friend of the Pod, was just like, I've never seen better editing in a movie.
'Frankenhooker' and Creative Remakes
01:48:14
Speaker
Yeah, it's absolutely incredible.
01:48:16
Speaker
But yeah, no, I just didn't think this movie was funny.
01:48:19
Speaker
However, there is one...
01:48:21
Speaker
maybe 30 second segment of Joe para, uh, walking in wearing two ear, like two pretty big earrings, a gigantic chain, uh, wearing like a wife beater, uh, like button down combo.
01:48:38
Speaker
Beautiful.
01:48:39
Speaker
And he says the phrase I took, I took her to a lovely steak dinner, but the loveliness could not compare to the conversation.
01:48:47
Speaker
No,
01:48:49
Speaker
And it was phenomenal.
01:48:51
Speaker
Did you see Rachel Sennott at the Sabrina Carpenter show?
01:48:56
Speaker
Yeah, where she just had her boobs out, basically.
01:48:59
Speaker
Goddamn right she did.
01:49:02
Speaker
Red's like, I'm tuned in.
01:49:03
Speaker
Red's like, I have it pulled over my phone.
01:49:05
Speaker
I'm watching it right now.
01:49:06
Speaker
Yeah, here's the thing.
01:49:07
Speaker
He's like Denzel Washington from Flight.
01:49:11
Speaker
Were you gooning to Rachel Sennett when you were flying the plane?
01:49:16
Speaker
I'm gooning right now, sir.
01:49:20
Speaker
Rachel Sennett, super fucking hot.
01:49:23
Speaker
Please call me.
01:49:24
Speaker
If you love overweight men, we can make you laugh.
01:49:27
Speaker
She does.
01:49:28
Speaker
She dated Stavros.
01:49:29
Speaker
I know.
01:49:29
Speaker
That's what I'm saying.
01:49:32
Speaker
What, Maddie?
01:49:33
Speaker
She did?
01:49:34
Speaker
Yeah, she did Stavros outgates.
01:49:35
Speaker
Oh, yeah.
01:49:37
Speaker
I don't know what's more shocking to me about Rachel Sinnott, that she's not Jewish or that she dated Stavros.
01:49:44
Speaker
I do think because the first movie, like the first thing I ever saw her in was Shiva Baby.
01:49:48
Speaker
Sure, of course.
01:49:49
Speaker
And she's not straight in that movie.
01:49:50
Speaker
I think the former is more shocking.
01:49:52
Speaker
I think Stavros being a piece of meat is not shocking at all.
01:49:55
Speaker
No, Stavros probably, I think Stavros eats pussy like a maniac.
01:50:00
Speaker
I could be a piece of meat.
01:50:03
Speaker
But on the other end, I have two movies that I want to shout out for my high.
01:50:06
Speaker
My honorable mention high is Attack the Block, the Joe Cornish flick.
01:50:10
Speaker
Really good shit.
01:50:11
Speaker
John Boyega is fucking great in this movie.
01:50:14
Speaker
It's just a good time to watch a group of South London teens beat up a bunch of aliens.
01:50:19
Speaker
Great movie.
01:50:20
Speaker
Love it.
01:50:20
Speaker
But my actual high is Frank Hindenlotter's Frankenhooker.
01:50:25
Speaker
Yes, sir.
01:50:26
Speaker
This movie fucking rips.
01:50:29
Speaker
It's so good.
01:50:31
Speaker
It hates Ronald Reagan with a passion and me too, queen.
01:50:36
Speaker
It is so respectful of sex work for a movie called Frankenhooker.
01:50:40
Speaker
It is so respectful to the women that it depicts as sex workers that it's kind of baffling.
01:50:48
Speaker
for a movie about a guy attempting to chop up a bunch of sex workers to reconstruct his dead fiance out of their body parts.
01:50:57
Speaker
Sick.
01:50:58
Speaker
It's great body horror.
01:50:59
Speaker
It's insanely funny.
01:51:01
Speaker
Genuinely, there's just lines.
01:51:03
Speaker
It's just straight up a comedy.
01:51:05
Speaker
Basket Case and Brain Damage are funny, but they are more horror than comedy, I would say.
01:51:11
Speaker
Frankenhooker is more comedy than horror.
01:51:14
Speaker
Like, he goes, you know what's really killing all these hookers is crack.
01:51:19
Speaker
And you know what's going to kill them even faster?
01:51:22
Speaker
My super crack.
01:51:23
Speaker
Dude, I was literally about to say, I also watched Frank and Hunger for the first time this week, and the super crack is, like, one of the best beats I've seen in the movie.
01:51:32
Speaker
Guys, when people smoke the super crack, they just explode.
01:51:37
Speaker
They just blow up, dude.
01:51:39
Speaker
They just fucking blow up.
'Anora' and Sean Baker Films
01:51:41
Speaker
That's sick.
01:51:41
Speaker
But yeah, those are my two movies.
01:51:43
Speaker
I cannot recommend Frankenhooker enough.
01:51:45
Speaker
It is so fantastic.
01:51:47
Speaker
Please, please let Sarah Sherman remake this movie.
01:51:51
Speaker
She wants to.
01:51:52
Speaker
She's said it a thousand times.
01:51:54
Speaker
Her letterboxd review of this movie is sigh my dream role.
01:51:58
Speaker
Let her do it.
01:51:59
Speaker
Please let her remake this movie.
01:52:01
Speaker
I would kill to see this.
01:52:02
Speaker
That's great.
01:52:04
Speaker
I love it.
01:52:05
Speaker
Let me hear from Zach Attack.
01:52:08
Speaker
Zach Attack.
01:52:09
Speaker
Yeah, a good transition because I also watched Frankenhugger for the first time this week and it rules.
01:52:14
Speaker
Thank you, Tubi.
01:52:16
Speaker
Yeah, shut up.
01:52:17
Speaker
I think I watched it on... Not on Tubi.
01:52:20
Speaker
On Shudder?
01:52:21
Speaker
I think it's on Shudder too.
01:52:22
Speaker
Yeah.
01:52:25
Speaker
Frankenhocker rules.
01:52:26
Speaker
I honestly don't know if I have a low this week.
01:52:29
Speaker
I think the worst thing to watch was a long cane poly.
01:52:32
Speaker
But like that was still a very fun Ben Stiller, Jen Aniston.
01:52:39
Speaker
Like it when I watched it.
01:52:45
Speaker
You're breaking up a little bit there, Zach.
01:52:47
Speaker
In the very same, very similar vein as Frankenhooker.
01:52:53
Speaker
I saw the movie Enora this week in theaters and like
01:53:00
Speaker
It's as good as they're saying.
01:53:03
Speaker
Surprisingly, I think the thing that caught me off guard about it for a movie that I had very high expectations for, this was the funniest movie I watched this year.
01:53:13
Speaker
Wow.
01:53:15
Speaker
Hilarious movie.
01:53:17
Speaker
Really excited to watch it.
01:53:19
Speaker
Really cool separations.
01:53:21
Speaker
It's different themes and vibes.
01:53:26
Speaker
The first, second, and third acts.
01:53:28
Speaker
but genuinely just a whole way through that finishes and you're just like broken.
01:53:37
Speaker
Um, so on it, I know we've helped hearing about a Nora as like this amazing movie and it's been hard to see, but it is Nora rules.
01:53:49
Speaker
Mikey Madison.
01:53:51
Speaker
Amazing.
01:53:53
Speaker
Um,
01:53:53
Speaker
We were going to go see Enora on Friday night, but Joe's bitch wife couldn't hang and was like, oh, man.
01:54:01
Speaker
There is an actor's name, and I feel bad about that, but his character's name is Igor, and it's my favorite performance of the year.
01:54:09
Speaker
People keep saying Igor for president or like Igor for Oscars.
01:54:13
Speaker
It's legit.
01:54:14
Speaker
Igor is my favorite fucking person of all time.
01:54:18
Speaker
No, it's legit.
01:54:19
Speaker
I agree.
01:54:20
Speaker
Excellent.
01:54:21
Speaker
Yeah.
01:54:22
Speaker
Watch Anora, please.
01:54:25
Speaker
I love Florida Project.
01:54:27
Speaker
I have not seen T-Man.
01:54:36
Speaker
If you like Florida Project, you will definitely love Anora, but it is definitely not the same movie in any way, shape, or form.
01:54:44
Speaker
I think Sean Baker's hit and got on base every time he's made a movie.
01:54:50
Speaker
Tangerine is great.
01:54:52
Speaker
Florida Project is great.
01:54:53
Speaker
Red Rocket is incredible.
01:54:54
Speaker
I've been meaning to watch Tangerine because that's the one that he shot on iPhone, right?
01:54:59
Speaker
Yeah.
01:54:59
Speaker
So that's cool in itself.
01:55:01
Speaker
Red Rocket sounds interesting.
01:55:02
Speaker
But yeah, Enora, they made it for 6 mil.
01:55:05
Speaker
They're already up to 20 mil as far as what they've been making from theaters.
01:55:10
Speaker
Love it.
01:55:11
Speaker
It's just...
01:55:13
Speaker
non-stop fun cool stuff I will say it was a very awkward movie to watch as a solo male moviegoer in between two groups of women but I will also because you were gooding because it is as funny as it is
01:55:32
Speaker
It's not even like halfway through the movie before you're all just on the same page like, oh yeah, this shit rules.
01:55:38
Speaker
Yeah.
01:55:39
Speaker
But for the first 10 minutes for sure, you're just like, I am a fucking asshole.
01:55:44
Speaker
It's a lot of strippers.
01:55:46
Speaker
It's a lot of strippers.
01:55:48
Speaker
Yeah, it literally opens with Mikey Madison's titties.
01:55:51
Speaker
I'll just say that.
01:55:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's going to be so fun watching this movie with my wife.
01:55:57
Speaker
I saw it with my girlfriend and we had a terrific time together.
01:56:00
Speaker
Good.
01:56:00
Speaker
Maddie and I, every time we pass the strip club that's right next to our house, I'm like, Maddie, we could go in.
01:56:08
Speaker
Can we try it?
01:56:09
Speaker
Should we just see what happens?
01:56:10
Speaker
I don't know.
01:56:11
Speaker
I've never been.
01:56:11
Speaker
She could have a peg leg.
01:56:13
Speaker
The issue with the strip club, it's that it looks so sad.
01:56:19
Speaker
Okay, fair enough.
01:56:21
Speaker
It's called the lipstick cabaret.
01:56:23
Speaker
But you can bring those young ladies some joy.
01:56:27
Speaker
You could look them in the eye.
01:56:29
Speaker
I could bring them to Jesus.
01:56:31
Speaker
Yes.
01:56:32
Speaker
We could go in it.
01:56:32
Speaker
We could YWAM this shit.
01:56:35
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no.
01:56:36
Speaker
We're moving on, Zach.
01:56:38
Speaker
Who do you want to hear from?
01:56:39
Speaker
Who do you want to hear from?
01:56:40
Speaker
I want to hear from Austin, John.
01:56:42
Speaker
Wonderful.
01:56:43
Speaker
Um, I would, Nora is definitely up there for me on my highs.
01:56:46
Speaker
Um, I agree with you.
01:56:47
Speaker
Funniest movie of the year.
01:56:49
Speaker
Definitely like the most I've like laughed out loud in the theater this year.
01:56:53
Speaker
Um, it's terrific.
01:56:54
Speaker
All of the, yeah, I agree with you.
01:56:55
Speaker
Believe the hype.
01:56:57
Speaker
Um, Igor for president, all of those things.
01:56:59
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Um,
01:57:00
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Another honorable mention high is Tom Hanks' appearance on Conan O'Brien's podcast.
01:57:06
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Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend.
01:57:07
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He calls film critics cocksuckers at one point.
01:57:11
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And if you ever wanted to hear Tom Hanks say the word cocksucker, do I have the podcast for you?
01:57:16
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It's fantastic.
01:57:18
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It's very, it's just very funny.
01:57:19
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You can tell that they're like actually friends.
01:57:21
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And that's the thing I love about Conan's podcast is like everybody he brings on, they
01:57:25
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Oh, can we say real quick, group high, Conan's hosting the Oscars?
01:57:29
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Hell yeah, baby.
01:57:31
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That headline made my week.
01:57:33
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It was fantastic.
01:57:34
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Fuck you, Jimmy Kimmel.
01:57:36
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Seriously.
01:57:37
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For real.
01:57:39
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My other honorable mention high is the new digital short that premiered on SNL last night.
01:57:44
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The Lonely Island digital short, Here I Go, featuring Charlie XCX, which
Clint Eastwood and Children's Media Critique
01:57:49
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I've watched twice today.
01:57:49
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I will be watching it as soon as I am off the podcast.
01:57:52
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It's
01:57:52
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very funny it's a very it's an earworm as they're the mean cute one was even funnier the mean cute one was very good um the snl having a great season a little bit ups and downs but overall i'm very much enjoying the season of snl um my real high is the uh clint eastwood directed and starring film pale rider um which is fantastic it's like very much a riff on like his on high plains drifter and the man with no name and you know it's about a um
01:58:21
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like mining, like a gold mining area in California, like mid 19th century.
01:58:28
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And there's like a big corporation that's trying to push out all the little guys on in this sort of mining community.
01:58:34
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And,
01:58:36
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Clint Eastwood rolls into town and everybody's like, oh, like lone gunman seems like, seems like a bad guy.
01:58:42
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Seems like he's here to cause a ruckus.
01:58:43
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And then he like walks out of a room and he's got a priest collar on.
01:58:47
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And everybody's like, oh, we love you.
01:58:49
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You're a priest.
01:58:50
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We need a man of God in this, you know, area, all this stuff.
01:58:55
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And it's just like,
01:58:56
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very um it's very much what clint's good at like that's the western sort of thing that he's like the best in the world that um the uh he gives a great performance he obviously turns to violence at a certain point in the movie um but it's just very fun um and beautiful to look at i'm like how do you get these fucking vista shots that you get and still get out by lunch um clint's the goat can't wait for jury number two um
01:59:25
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My low is actually very similar to Maddie's in a funny way.
01:59:29
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So Clarissa's mom and her boyfriend are here this weekend and we're doing a lot of work on the house.
01:59:33
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And for some reason, we started calling Richie, her mom's boyfriend, Handy Manny from the Disney Channel or like Disney kids show Handy Manny.
01:59:43
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And so today after lunch, we were just kind of sitting around chatting and Clarissa just put on Handy Manny.
01:59:48
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And it's the most bogus,
01:59:51
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Bullshit animation.
01:59:53
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How dare we treat our children like this?
01:59:55
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It's the worst writing I've ever heard on any of this bullshit.
02:00:00
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I was like, fuck you, Wilmer Valderrama, for getting a check for this.
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He plays Handy Manny.
02:00:05
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Damn.
02:00:06
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Yeah, that's Handy Manny himself.
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And it's like a great cast of like voice actors that you've heard in a million things.
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And I was just like, fuck you.
02:00:14
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This is terrible.
02:00:14
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We need to treat our children better.
02:00:16
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So fuck Walt Disney.
02:00:18
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Fuck Handy Manny.
02:00:19
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He's a fucking cuck.
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And I hate it.
02:00:22
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Fuck you, Handy Manny.
02:00:23
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I hope you fall in a well and die.
02:00:25
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Yeah, exactly.
02:00:26
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Let's kill Handy Manny with rocks.
02:00:29
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Let's beat him to death with hammers.
02:00:32
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Bob the Builder is going to get his ass.
02:00:34
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Yeah, dude.
02:00:35
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Yeah, Bob the Builder would sleep with his wife.
02:00:38
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The tweet where they say, I don't know about you, but me and my friends would have killed E.T.
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with hammers.
02:00:42
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It's one of the best tweets ever.
02:00:43
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It just kind of like appears in my head every now and then.
02:00:45
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And then it like sinks back down into the lava like the Terminator.
02:00:49
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I have a video I'm going to send to all of you, but it's a streamer who I love.
02:00:54
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Actually, the only streamer who I genuinely love.
02:00:56
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It's got a northern lion and it's what a king.
02:00:59
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Him going, OK, OK, let's kill him.
02:01:02
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Let's beat him to death with hammers.
02:01:06
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Oh, Austin, anything else you want to mention?
02:01:08
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No, what's your high and low?
02:01:09
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Let's get into it.
02:01:10
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I'm going to start with my low because I just want to go quick.
Film Reviews: 'Heretic' and 'Mulholland Drive'
02:01:12
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I saw the Hugh Grant starring flick Heretic this past week, which I thought was fine.
02:01:18
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Okay.
02:01:19
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That's what I've heard.
02:01:20
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The first hour, you're like, oh, this is going in a direction I really like.
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And then it goes, it switches directions.
02:01:28
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It takes like a real serious left turn that you think is going to go somewhere pretty interesting.
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And then it never really does.
02:01:33
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Never really materializes.
02:01:36
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I will say I do quite like it.
02:01:38
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all of the central performances in Heretic.
02:01:41
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I'm trying to find the name of the two young ladies who are... Chloe East is one of them from the Fable Wins.
02:01:46
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Chloe East and Sophie Thatcher I think are both great.
02:01:50
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There's a very, very, very funny... It's not even really... It's not funny, but the moment you realize it's him is there's a moment of Topher Grace being the elder of the LDS Church in Boulder.
02:02:03
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This film does take place in Boulder, Colorado.
02:02:07
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Sco Buffs.
02:02:09
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That's for old Dean.
02:02:11
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But... Drivers Hunter for Heisman.
02:02:14
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70s show cast.
02:02:16
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Yeah, we're just calling them all out.
02:02:17
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Yes.
02:02:19
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But when you realize that it's Topher Grace, it's like, whoa, that's wild.
02:02:22
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Funny.
02:02:23
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He's got like white hair.
02:02:24
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It's kind of wild.
02:02:25
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Oh, wow.
02:02:26
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That's funny.
02:02:26
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My high, I tried to like come up with something a little more creative, but honestly, is that last night, I rewatched Mulholland Drive.
02:02:34
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I watched my Criterion 4K.
02:02:35
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Oh, my God.
02:02:39
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I just have to say, I think Mulholland Drive is... It's not my favorite David Lynch, but it might just be the best.
02:02:45
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It's perfect.
02:02:46
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In terms of, like, it is a perfect movie.
02:02:49
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I think he's made, like, six five-star masterpieces out of his ten films he's ever made, his ten features.
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But it's pretty breathtaking.
02:02:59
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It's shot...
02:03:01
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So beautifully.
02:03:03
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Watts is like next level.
02:03:04
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Justin Theroux is like a guy who every time I watch him on screen, he just gets better and better and better in everything that I see him in.
02:03:13
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I think the way that that flick is shot is like really amazing.
02:03:18
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It's staggering.
02:03:20
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Like really, really, really like moving.
02:03:26
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The Deming Center photography is great.
02:03:28
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There's like all these really uncomfortable close ups.
02:03:32
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And I've just started listening to the blank check episode on Mulholland Drive came out this week or came out today.
02:03:36
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Rather, when we're recording this, it is currently the longest episode of blank check in the history of the podcast.
02:03:41
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Three hours and 45 minutes.
02:03:43
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Damn.
02:03:44
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Yeah.
02:03:44
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I'm very excited to listen to it.
02:03:47
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Mulholland Drive.
02:03:48
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I mean, it's perfect.
02:03:49
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I've been thinking about it a lot also because some friends of mine who love Chapel Rhone have referenced that she and her song Naked in Manhattan says like that one sex scene in Mulholland
Appreciation and Closing Remarks
02:04:00
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Drive.
02:04:00
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And I'll tell you, Chapel might be into that shit.
02:04:03
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Most of y'all who like Chapel would not be into the sex scene in Mulholland Drive.
02:04:07
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Seeing that movie, it's one of the most unsettling things you've ever seen in your entire life.
02:04:10
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It's very upsetting.
02:04:11
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It's the most scared I've ever been during a sex scene.
02:04:15
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Yes.
02:04:15
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Yes.
02:04:17
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But yeah, it's a masterpiece.
02:04:18
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I love David Lynch.
02:04:19
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David, I would trade 50 years off of my life.
02:04:23
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We will split the pain of your emphysema four ways if it means you can make another movie.
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100%.
02:04:29
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Easily.
02:04:29
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I would do it in a heartbeat.
02:04:31
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I truly... I know David Lynch doesn't listen, but I sincerely hope he does.
02:04:36
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I wish he did.
02:04:38
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If he ever hears it, we want you to know that we fucking love you.
02:04:41
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You're the best of us.
02:04:42
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We wish you the best, and I hope that
02:04:45
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If you can't believe it, it's a Friday loves David Lynch.
02:04:52
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That's good.
02:04:54
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Oh, Miss Maddie.
02:04:56
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Thank you for coming on the podcast.
02:04:57
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Thank you for bringing us some rom-coms to talk about.
02:05:02
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Thank you for having me.
02:05:04
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Absolutely.
02:05:04
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We will have you back on.
02:05:05
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Don't you worry.
02:05:06
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Don't you worry.
02:05:07
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You're a pretty little heart.
02:05:10
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Gentlemen, thank you for joining me on this podcast.
02:05:11
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Listener, thank you for listening to the show.
02:05:14
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We love you.
02:05:15
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Happy birthday, Marty Scorsese.
02:05:18
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Happy birthday, Marty.
02:05:19
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Come with me.