Introduction and Fast Food Adventures
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Welcome to Paddington Gone Wild, the internet's only bio-exorcist podcast.
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I am one of your hosts and Monica Bellucci enthusiast, Red Rankin, joined, as always, by my beautiful boys.
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Every maverick needs his rooster and he is mine, Joe Neal Hayes.
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The Rick Decker to our Agent K, Zach.
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And the shape with the blackest eyes, Evil's Eyes, Austin.
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The bags under my eyes at the very least.
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So I had a thing happen to me on the way to recording today.
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I went to Taco Bell with my beautiful wife, Maddie.
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And on the way into the drive-thru, I did not notice that this Taco Bell is one of the new ones that has the mobile pickup and the regular drive-thru lane.
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So I pull into the mobile pickup order lane and Maddie's like, Joe, you dumbass.
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You pulled into this.
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You can't order this.
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And I was like, oh, fuck.
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And so I kept going forward.
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And then there was like three cars in a line in front of us.
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She was like, you're going to have to back up.
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And I was like, OK, hold on.
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And so then I flipped the car into reverse.
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I'm backing up through the drive through line.
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uh i'm like two inches away from hitting the wall on the other side of the drive-thru line i'm like austin powersing it back into the spot and i eventually back into the taco bell ordering line i'm like yo what's up can i get a cantina bowl and a grilled cheese burrito please that is not very live moss of you joe
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I would argue that it's insanely live Maz.
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I lived an entire life in those 15 seconds.
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Dude, I got stuck behind one of those fucking idiots.
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By fucking idiots, I mean you in a fucking Chick-fil-A drive.
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I was doing like the mobile through where you just like scan the QR code and do your order.
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And I was doing that.
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And the girl in front of me did not realize what she was doing.
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And they had to like come out and take her order because Chick-fil-A, they're not going to tell you to move.
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So like, I'm just sitting there.
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I'm like, bitch, I ordered already.
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Get out of my fucking way.
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Like, I know what I'm doing.
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Don't be fucking stupid.
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I have no reason for this at all, but I do not fuck with fast food apps at all.
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I have two pages on my phone.
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Are you kidding me?
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I got a free fucking spicy chicken sandwich today at Chick-fil-A.
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Let me read you the apps that I have.
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Chick-fil-A, Chick-fil-A, Wingstop, Taco Bell, McDonald's, Whataburger, Papa John's, and Domino's.
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If you count DoorDash, I would suppose it counts.
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If you count Starbucks, that's one.
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Chick-fil-A, Whataburger, Wingstop, McDonald's, Mod Pizza, shockingly good app, Chipotle, Popeyes, Cava, Freebirds,
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Dave's Hot Chicken, Taco Bell, Jersey Mike's, and Wendy's.
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Are we a Jersey Mike's pod or are we a fucking Jimmy John's pod?
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Jersey Mike's, I love both, but Jersey Mike's gets the end.
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Jersey Mike's has better consistency.
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There are some Jimmy John's shops that are just fucking awful to eat at.
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I like JJ's, but Jersey Mike's is superior.
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One of my roommates for two years in college worked at a Jersey Mike's and he would bring home bread at the end of the day and we would all just sit around watching YouTube videos high out of our minds eating bread.
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You can't prove anything.
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Statute of limitations is up.
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Truly just peeling it off like fucking cavemen.
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The only podcast that has served Mike's way.
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You know what's surprisingly underrated?
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Can it be Mike's way with Pepperellish, though?
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Fucking Firehouse subs.
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Oh, I do like Firehouse.
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Shout out to Chris Wernette, the biggest Firehouse fan of all time.
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This podcast is for you, Chris.
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Firehouse is the most overpriced.
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Okay, that's fair.
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It's a little expensive, but I think it's good.
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I don't go often just because it's not in my normal rotation, but I do like it.
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You don't have a lot of choices for a fast food hot sub sandwich.
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You get Subway, you get Firehouse.
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Schlotzky's maybe.
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Do they have hot sandwiches?
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I haven't been to Subway since they disavowed Jared.
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Austin, pro-pedophile.
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Unfortunately, because of where the Sendero offices are, is I, if I want to eat anything and be able to, like, grab it, be back at the office, and, like, eat in 20 minutes, I, uh...
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I'm stuck with either eating gas station food, going to Hellberg barbecue, which is excellent.
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The problem is I can't really eat barbecue in the middle of the day because then I'm just done.
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Workday, absolutely not.
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I mean, it's like it's truly some of the best barbecue in the state in the state.
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But it's like, have you had the brisket bun me yet?
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I keep forgetting about it on Thursdays and I need to go.
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If I were allegedly high, you would have just gave me a heart attack.
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I was at the theater last night and they had an ad for an animated film that Mel Gibson is in and I was just like, what's that?
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It might not be animated, but the poster made it seem animated.
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It wasn't a trailer.
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I feel like I might have seen something about this that he's in something coming out, which is crazy.
Film Discussions Part 1: Mel Gibson and Current Releases
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And it's not an S. Craig Zoller picture.
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Well, he is in that movie Flight, Murder, Kill, Flight.
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Didn't he direct that, though?
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Yeah, he directed it.
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It's a film called Monster Summer.
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Oh, I did see about this.
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Oh, it is not animated.
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Is it like a conservative animated film?
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Lorraine Bracco, Mel Gibson, Mason Thames.
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I don't know who that is.
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Patrick Reddo, the fucking dude from The Sandlot.
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The one who looks like he's nine years old.
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Yeah he does He's never gotten rid of his acne So it's a tough beat for that guy Lord bless him I blend that on the American food system That we all still have acne into our adulthood For sure It's because I eat so many chicken McNuggets I don't have acne in my adulthood I have started to get bacne And that shit is not cool
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Okay, that's what I'm saying.
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You might not have acne on your face, but you got it somewhere.
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Yeah, fuck you, Red.
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I just have a question.
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So this movie, was it called Monster something?
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monster hunter house monster hunter whatever it's not monster hunter that's a paul ws anderson just so i got me a little joke okay okay monster summer so just so i understand it's only gonna screen in a double feature with matt walsh's am i racist i just want to be clear that's playing at my local amc it's playing at the cinema
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really talking about next week right yeah it's a slow ass september we got we're doing a full matt walsh pod next week it's leading it's also hilarious to me that am i racist is playing in the same theater as the substance which i have not seen yet but i can understand i've heard rave reviews i saw the substance on friday and i'm singing the theater that was next to the screening room that i was in was playing am i racist incredible
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We also have Am I Racist?
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And there's a new Dinesh D'Souza documentary coming out called Vindicating Trump.
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It's also going to be playing in Waco.
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Dinesh D'Souza, my main man.
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I have to go through this.
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This is an interesting road for us to go down.
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So I'm going to read the films that are currently today playing at the Waco Cinemark.
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This is interesting to me.
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Top of the list, Transformers 1.
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Which I've actually heard isn't bad.
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I mean, similar to Wild Rope.
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Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.
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The subject of today's podcast.
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Never Let Go, which is the Halle Berry movie, which I've not heard a... Directed... Hey, directed by the guy that directed High Tension.
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The French extreme film.
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Yeah, that makes me a little more excited to see it.
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Deadpool and Wolverine, obviously.
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That's still in theaters?
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Oh, of course it is.
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It's still making money.
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Gazillion dollars.
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Yeah, it's still like number three at the box office every week.
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Money, she can go burr.
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Reagan, of course.
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The Killers Game, the Dave Bautista movie.
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Kind of interested in that.
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I like Dave Bautista.
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The Forge, which is some sort of faith-based movie.
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This is a faith-based podcast.
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I am still Korean parentheses Korean with English subtitles.
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That's the BTS guy.
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The documentary Super Slash Man, the Christopher Reeve story.
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Oh, I've heard good things about that.
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They're showing Tim Burton's Batman, also relevant to today's podcast.
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It's Batman Day or something.
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It's Batman Day 2024.
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They showed that today.
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The Substance, the Whiplash 10-year anniversary re-release, which I do want to go see.
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Because I missed Whiplash in theaters in 2014, so I'm interested.
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And Twisters, still playing at the wake of the summer.
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Can we talk about how Randy Quaid's two feature, or Dennis Quaid's two feature films are in the substance?
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He's so fascinating to me.
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I kind of want to do a Dennis Quaid pot because I'm so curious because he still works with good and interesting people, but yet he's very clearly a pretty severe righty, but maybe he's just like a decent dude.
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Who's not too loud.
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I'm saying like, that's like, we used to have that.
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We used to just have like cool people and like that were right wingers, whatever,
Film Discussions Part 2: Beetlejuice and Tim Burton's Style
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making pretty decent movies.
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Yeah, like he was in this.
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He was in the Soderbergh high and low or the high and low riff that Soderbergh did full circle on HBO, which was great.
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But I was like, oh, Dennis Quaid, good for you.
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Like still working.
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And he was very good in it, playing like a sort of affected, older, rich guy who like got rich later in life because his daughter's rich and he has like a cooking show.
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But I'm fascinated by his career.
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I have to do a Quaid pod.
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Might have to go see Reagan, unfortunately.
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Do we do a joint Randy and Dennis pod?
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I mean, the Randy Quaid episode is going to make me sad.
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I'll just say over and over again my favorite line from Brokeback Mountain, which is him saying, I didn't pay you to go up there to stem the rose.
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Wait, is Randy Quaid super canceled?
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Yeah, he's very handsome.
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Hold on, let me... It's not my job to educate you, Joe.
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By that, I mean I have forgotten.
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I just know that he's been handsome.
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I have forgotten as well.
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He's got a huge beard.
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It was I'm commenting on every person's Halloween costume and just saying pretty problematic.
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And then whenever they ask why, I just say it's not my job to educate you.
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Yeah, I remember that tweet.
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I've sent that to like 12 people.
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It's not my job to educate you.
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That specific tweet.
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Oh, it's a fun that we get to ask for white guys use.
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It's not my job to educate you as a joke.
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Yeah, it's pretty sick.
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Okay, so yeah, basically he's an election denier is the biggest thing.
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So he's just stupid.
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But we all knew that.
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I thought it was going to be like he was a fraud or something.
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No, I mean, there might be some fraud stuff.
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He also sued the producers of Brokeback Mountain for representing the film as a low budget art house film with no prospect of making money in order to secure his professional acting services at below market rates.
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We need to give Ang Lee the avatar money.
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Actually, I wouldn't.
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I don't think we would be like, hey, here's like a 30 frame per second weird movie that like looks really interesting, but it's kind of dog ass.
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I'm not a Gemini man defender.
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That's what he's doing now.
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What about Tommy Lee's halftime walk or whatever?
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Billy Lynn's long halftime walk, you fucking piece of shit.
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It's a movie starring Kristen Stewart, Ben Diesel, and Steve Martin.
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What if it was Tommy Lee's long halftime walk?
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I mean, I'd be more interested.
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Like Tommy Lee, like the drummer?
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Oh, I thought you meant Tommy Lee Jones.
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No, Tommy Lee and Pamela.
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Oh, that'd be cool.
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They get they get they start fucking style on the halftime.
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On the star at Cowboys Stadium.
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Long halftime come with come sex football game.
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Come sex football game.
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Speaking of cum sex football game, this is an episode about the most recent film directed by Tim Burton.
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It is called Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, starring Jenna Ortega.
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Don't say it again.
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Winona Ryder, Michael Keaton.
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No, maybe Michael Keaton will show up if we say it again.
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Say it three times.
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Michael Keaton versus, or no, not Michael Keaton, Monica Bellucci for some goddamn reason.
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Yeah, because she's hot and Tim Burton likes fucking her.
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That's why she's true.
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I would also like to fuck.
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I mean, my letterboxd review of this movie.
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Yeah, my letterboxd review of this movie was Monica Bellucci can suck my soul any day she wants.
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I almost did instead of soul, I almost wrote in parentheses redacted.
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But I was like, my girlfriend might see this.
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You might not love that joke, even though she also has a huge crush on Monica Bellucci.
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So yeah, she's incredible.
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She's the fucking best.
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We love you, Clarissa.
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So this is also going to be the first part of the show.
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We're going to talk about this new film.
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We'll also then the second half kind of go into some legacy sequel talk.
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Some of our favorite legacy sequels, some of the ones that suck ass.
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What makes them work?
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What makes them not work?
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how some can inexplicably work despite the fact that they play into everything else you come to expect from a legacy sequel.
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But a little bit of the plot of the film.
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After a family tragedy, three generations of the Dietz family return home to Winter River.
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Still haunted by Beetlejuice, Lydia's life is turned upside down when her teenage daughter Astrid, played by Jenna Ortega, accidentally opens the portal to the afterlife.
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There's also a subplot about Beetlejuice's ex-wife Dolores, played by Monica Bellucci.
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Did you mention me?
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Oh, well, I attended Juilliard.
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I'm a graduate of the Harvard Business School.
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I travel quite extensively.
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I lived through the Black Plague and had a pretty good time during that.
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I've seen The Exorcist about 167 times, and it keeps getting funnier every single time I see it.
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Not to mention the fact that you're talking to a dead guy.
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Now, what do you think?
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You think I'm qualified?
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Beetlejuice, everybody.
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I had to look up Beetlejuice quotes while you were talking.
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Do Beetlejuice... Do Beetlejuice... Do him... What if Beetlejuice was doing a Trump impression?
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Give me a second to formulate this.
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That's a hard one.
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Yeah, it's a juice doing Trump is crazy.
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Let me lock into Beetlejuice real quick.
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You want to get nuts?
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You want to get nuts?
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Can you do Beetlejuice on the Howard Stern show?
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Can you do Beetlejuice on Bill Maher's podcast?
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On Bill Maher's podcast?
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What is that called?
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Crazy Disco or some bullshit.
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No, Real Time with Bill Maher is the show.
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It's called, like, fucking I Like to Get High and Be an Idiot.
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Yeah, what a fucking moron.
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Why did Bill Maher tell Quentin Tarantino what Hawk Tua means?
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Because he was... Do you guys want to hear my Bill Maher impression?
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My name's Bill Maher.
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I'm stupid and annoying, and I should kill myself.
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Also, watch me say the N-word 4,000 times.
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He does like to do that.
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He's a big N-word fan.
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There's also a plot in this movie about Willem Dafoe.
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He's like a dead actor turned undead police detective.
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Named Wolf Jackson.
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Put some fucking respect on his name.
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Named Wolf Jackson, you're right.
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Tracking down the flesh bags and Mr. Juice, which him referring constantly to Beetlejuice as Mr. Juice is really fucking funny.
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The juice is loose.
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It would have been really cool if OJ was in this movie.
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I thought they might pull it, but he's also dead.
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So it's hard, but you know, they see a lot of ghosties.
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Like they couldn't, they couldn't have CG OJ.
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I was rewatching pop star the other night as I was texting all that and the fucking bit where they have the Adam Levine hologram.
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And then it cuts to an Adam Levine hologram.
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Fucking another Adam.
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It's so fucking funny.
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So what did you boys think of Beetlejuice?
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Now, Joe, you were a qualifier.
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The most reluctant to see this film, often saying, I don't want to see it and I'm not going to go see it.
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So what do you think?
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OK, I mean, I thought I was fine.
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Tell us how you watched it.
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Talk about your experience.
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I allegedly pirated it.
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I allegedly watched a cam rip of it, which by the way, was pretty good.
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Like it was pretty, it was a pretty solid care.
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It allegedly was a pretty solid, but allegedly some lady kept getting up.
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And so like every 30 minutes, I would allegedly just see someone standing up to go to the bathroom and coming back with like some popcorn.
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At one point someone like stretched and I thought their arm was like a shadow ghost that was appearing in the background.
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I was like, oh, what the fuck?
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That's a wild effect.
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It's popping off the screen.
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Take my opinion with a grain of salt.
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I did not like the movie for about an hour.
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I spent the first hour going, what the fuck is this?
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It literally takes them an hour.
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It takes them an hour to get to the fucking underworld.
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Like they spend so much time on who, by the way, Justin Theroux is very good in this movie.
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All of the, all of the performances except for Jenna Ortega, who I will say I don't think is a very good actress.
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I think she's saddled with some very unfortunate exposition in this movie.
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Well, here's the thing.
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The other actors are also saddled with some very unfortunate dialogue.
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But they're more seasoned.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:19:21
Speaker
But this is the third or fourth time I've seen Gina Ortega in something and been like, I don't think she's very good.
00:19:26
Speaker
She wasn't even good in X.
00:19:28
Speaker
I like her in Scream.
00:19:29
Speaker
I think she's actually pretty good in X. Okay, Red.
00:19:32
Speaker
I like her in Scream.
00:19:34
Speaker
I like her in X. I think she's a good character.
00:19:37
Speaker
I don't like her in Scream.
00:19:38
Speaker
I don't love X as a movie, but I really like her in Scream, and I like that movie.
00:19:43
Speaker
Okay, well, maybe I'll watch Scream.
00:19:45
Speaker
Just check it out.
00:19:46
Speaker
All those Scream movies are good.
00:19:47
Speaker
Every time Michael Keaton was on screen, I was having a blast.
00:19:49
Speaker
He is loving playing Beetlejuice again, and I love that for him.
00:19:54
Speaker
Every time they were in the Underworld, I loved that.
00:19:57
Speaker
I loved the heart of the movie, which was about how like gross men will take advantage of women at any given opportunity.
00:20:08
Speaker
And I thought that they did that relatively well.
00:20:10
Speaker
And I think it took too long for them to make the point, but I got it.
00:20:16
Speaker
I love women specifically.
00:20:22
Speaker
I love Mel Gibson.
00:20:25
Speaker
yeah so I thought it was a good 5 out of 10 for me I enjoyed the ending a lot like I loved the fake out ending sorry it was fun the stupid the crazy like fucked up Beetlejuice baby that shit was awesome sick yeah and it was exactly like the baby from Trainspotting laughing
00:20:47
Speaker
They might have just repurposed that baby.
00:20:50
Speaker
All of the practical effects were so sick.
00:20:52
Speaker
Congrats, Tim Burton.
00:20:53
Speaker
You're back to cool practical effects.
00:20:56
Speaker
But also, again, for an hour and a half long movie, it felt like a three hour movie to me.
00:21:04
Speaker
I think it's like an hour 40.
00:21:05
Speaker
It's like hour 38.
00:21:09
Speaker
It's pretty brief.
00:21:10
Speaker
It's pretty brief, but they longer than the original.
00:21:12
Speaker
But I would have liked for the movie to have either been longer or they spent more time in the underworld.
00:21:21
Speaker
I get with credits.
00:21:25
Speaker
Yeah, I take my opinion with a grain of salt.
00:21:28
Speaker
I did watch it through someone else's camera.
00:21:32
Speaker
It's just the funniest.
00:21:32
Speaker
It's the most on-brand funny thing.
00:21:34
Speaker
All films are seen through someone else's camera.
00:21:41
Speaker
Everything's really a cam rip.
00:21:45
Speaker
But yeah, no, I mean, I liked it more than I thought I was going to.
00:21:48
Speaker
I really fucking, the trailers and all of the marketing material made me want to fucking throw up.
00:21:53
Speaker
It just seemed like a movie, like for the same reason that Transformers 1 makes me like, like cringe a little bit.
00:22:00
Speaker
It just looks like a movie that is so...
00:22:04
Speaker
Right down the middle.
00:22:06
Speaker
It's not it's not doing anything new, but it's also not good enough at nostalgia to be like every time they used a classic rock song in the Transformers one trailer.
00:22:17
Speaker
I was like, who is this for?
00:22:19
Speaker
This is for 12 year olds.
00:22:20
Speaker
Why are we using songs they've never heard of?
00:22:23
Speaker
Like throw a little old boss X song in there or something.
00:22:26
Speaker
What are the kids listening to?
00:22:29
Speaker
What are the kids listening to?
00:22:30
Speaker
Austin, Zach, what did you guys like?
00:22:31
Speaker
Yeah, I think what Joe is saying is exactly why it's like... I thought it was also just like...
00:22:37
Speaker
I probably liked it a little bit more than Joe, but I it's like, what do you expect?
00:22:42
Speaker
It's going to be a fun fan service movie to have a little bit of everything for a family that goes to see a movie on Friday night.
00:22:48
Speaker
And there's like a lot of fun jokes and gags and bits.
00:22:52
Speaker
I agree that like the first 45 minutes ish was like so straining as far as like the exposition and setting things up like.
00:23:03
Speaker
That was a little to sit through, but it's also like a TikTok brain movie.
00:23:08
Speaker
So it's not like it's sure to sit through it because it is just like hitting all these, you know, over and over and over.
00:23:17
Speaker
Sorry, that wasn't me.
00:23:18
Speaker
That wasn't me rushing you.
00:23:21
Speaker
Always something to catch the attention of the next.
00:23:24
Speaker
Yeah, so there's that, and that's also one of my gripes of the movie at the same time, is, like, none of the stories went to a very emotional place at all.
00:23:33
Speaker
That, I mean, again, spoiler alert, forget his name, but fucking Treehouse Boy that murdered his parents.
00:23:41
Speaker
That was such a shallow, like, middling story that didn't do anything in the movie.
00:23:47
Speaker
Like, it got her to the underworld and then did nothing with his character.
00:23:51
Speaker
One really good joke out of it.
00:23:53
Speaker
Yeah, I think my my main complaint, like I think it boils down to the fact that there is like three versions of this movie that are apparent in the movie.
00:24:01
Speaker
Well, yeah, I think I would have rather than leaned into Dolores and the mega like name that Monica Bellucci is versus like having this weird middling treehouse boy story.
00:24:13
Speaker
And Dolores is basically absent for like the middle act of the movie.
00:24:17
Speaker
Yeah, have her be the reason that Jenna Ortega gets to the underworld in the first place or afterlife and do something with that rather than just not fully cook what is happening.
00:24:28
Speaker
The movie felt like they reached into a bag of Beetlejuice fan service and then just threw it at a wall and stitched a bunch of parts together like Monica Bellucci's character.
00:24:40
Speaker
Austin John, what did you think?
00:24:43
Speaker
I think I liked it a little more than the two we've heard so far.
00:24:46
Speaker
I had a really good time with it.
00:24:47
Speaker
I think it's helpful that my expectations were basically in the toilet, as I'm sure most of us were.
00:24:54
Speaker
But I was so happy anytime Beetlejuice is on screen.
00:24:58
Speaker
Yeah, I feel the same.
00:25:00
Speaker
That to me is very valuable.
00:25:01
Speaker
And it's like, I think the script is pretty shitty.
00:25:04
Speaker
I don't think any of the emotional beats really land in any way.
00:25:09
Speaker
Like the one that I thought about was like the dad storyline, which I thought could be pretty effective.
00:25:16
Speaker
And then that last scene where they're just like sitting around and he's like, you have to trust each other.
00:25:20
Speaker
I was like, fuck this shit.
00:25:22
Speaker
What the fuck are you doing?
00:25:26
Speaker
Almost everything about the movie is unearned.
00:25:28
Speaker
The whole ending where Monica Bellucci shows up.
00:25:32
Speaker
She's a deus ex machina that they set up.
00:25:36
Speaker
They set it up so that it wouldn't be a deus ex machina.
00:25:39
Speaker
Then somehow they found a way to still have it be unearned.
00:25:42
Speaker
Even though they set it up from the beginning of the film.
00:25:44
Speaker
Never once in the tension of the story did I feel like she was threatening to the plot.
00:25:49
Speaker
No, it felt like a guy being like I wrote a part from my girlfriend, which is fine.
00:25:55
Speaker
She got my guy Bob.
00:25:57
Speaker
She got my guy Bob, which I was... That's my other favorite part of the movie.
00:26:01
Speaker
Genuinely, the only moment where I felt real emotion outside of laughter.
00:26:06
Speaker
She got Bob and I was like, oh...
00:26:08
Speaker
Yeah, it's very sad.
00:26:11
Speaker
I want to get Bob tattooed in my body.
00:26:14
Speaker
Do you also envy Bob just a little bit, though?
00:26:18
Speaker
Because he got his soul sucked by Monica Bellucci?
00:26:26
Speaker
Again, I was very happy.
00:26:28
Speaker
I was very happy to see some of the practicality.
00:26:30
Speaker
I thought the workarounds they did for the Jeffrey Jones character were very funny.
00:26:35
Speaker
Yeah, they fucking tore his ass up.
00:26:37
Speaker
Yeah, the stop motion and then literally having it to where that character does not have an upper body.
00:26:43
Speaker
is very funny and the joke of his tombstone being a shark spin after he gets eaten by a shark very funny joke there were certain things I thought Catherine O'Hara was awesome I kind of agree broadly about the performances I really liked her death I thought that was very funny the asps not being defanged but I don't know I mean I think it's like I think it's probably a 5 or 6 out of 10 for me but
00:27:10
Speaker
I think like most of Tim Burton in the 21st century has been like a two or three for me, if not below.
00:27:16
Speaker
And so I'm like, I'm just happy.
00:27:17
Speaker
He's like trying stuff.
00:27:19
Speaker
I loved the Beatles baby.
00:27:21
Speaker
I like, I liked the fake out of the end.
00:27:23
Speaker
I thought Jen Ortega was like fine.
00:27:25
Speaker
I think she's just saddled with the worst shit in the movie.
00:27:27
Speaker
So it's really, really hard to make anything saying that she's going to do.
00:27:31
Speaker
And you have like, most of her scenes are with, um,
00:27:35
Speaker
either you know boy toy whatever the fuck justin through or winona ryder and it's like you're just not with justin through a writer like you're just not going to own up to that and justin through is the star of my favorite tv show of all time so i'm happy to see him the leftovers um i'm i'm always happy to see him and i thought he was very very funny um
00:27:54
Speaker
He does play that slimy guy really well.
00:27:57
Speaker
But there's just so many threads, like the pill thread.
00:28:02
Speaker
It's like she's addicted to pills and then she says something later in the movie about like, I guess we took too many pills, but it's just dropped.
00:28:09
Speaker
What are you taking?
00:28:11
Speaker
It was in a prescription bottle.
00:28:12
Speaker
They're drugs, Joseph.
00:28:15
Speaker
But it's like, yeah, it's true.
00:28:16
Speaker
Are you taking like perks?
00:28:18
Speaker
Are you taking like... They're off the perkies?
00:28:21
Speaker
They're anti-beetlejuice drugs, dude.
00:28:23
Speaker
Yeah, probably so.
00:28:24
Speaker
It would have been sick if it was just cough syrup and they were pouring it into Sprite.
00:28:28
Speaker
That would have been funny.
00:28:30
Speaker
I did really like... The one thing I'll say that I really like that we haven't talked about is the... We haven't really talked about it.
00:28:38
Speaker
Is the wedding sequence solely for the fact that it wore out its welcome.
00:28:43
Speaker
I was like, I love that this is going on as long as it is because that's really funny to me.
00:28:48
Speaker
It feels very burdenesque too.
00:28:50
Speaker
Yeah, it feels like something he would have done in like 1991.
00:28:54
Speaker
And I'm like, this is great.
00:28:56
Speaker
And there's a lot of great gags in it.
00:28:57
Speaker
It's very funny to have them all dance around.
00:28:59
Speaker
It feels very much like Deo in the original movie, obviously, as a comparison a lot of people are making.
00:29:04
Speaker
But I mean, I also just love the original.
00:29:06
Speaker
So I was just happy to be back in that world and have it feel the same.
00:29:11
Speaker
It's like I feel like his choir singing Deo actually made me laugh.
00:29:14
Speaker
It was very funny.
00:29:16
Speaker
Yeah, it's a very funny gag.
00:29:18
Speaker
And it was also that was the one part of the trailer that I liked, but it was like making fun of the self-serious legacy.
00:29:23
Speaker
Well, shit, like I'm playing like a sad version of the song from the movie, but they were doing it as a gag.
00:29:27
Speaker
Yeah, that was funny.
00:29:29
Speaker
What do you think?
00:29:30
Speaker
I, I think it was awesome that I probably liked it more than either of you guys, but also I went with Spencer, um, my roommate, friend of the pod, friend of all of ours.
00:29:40
Speaker
Um, and just like, and there were a couple of bits that we just really, really, really giggled at.
00:29:47
Speaker
There were a couple of jokes in there that I thought really landed.
00:29:51
Speaker
We keep making reference to him as Boy Toy or Treehouse Boy.
00:29:55
Speaker
I had to look it up.
00:29:55
Speaker
His character's name is Jeremy.
00:29:57
Speaker
He's played by Arthur Conti, who you guys don't have to know, but his grandfather is Tom Conti, who's a very, very, very well-celebrated English actor, who's won BAFTAs and Tony Awards and stuff.
00:30:10
Speaker
Yes, yes, in fact.
00:30:13
Speaker
It feels so uneven to me.
00:30:18
Speaker
Because the stuff that really works, I mean, you guys, I made reference to it, but all of the Wolf Jackson bit, the fact that almost every time Defoe is on screen, that woman is handing him a cup of coffee.
00:30:32
Speaker
The recurring, like, Defoe's entire arc in this film to me is amazing.
00:30:38
Speaker
If they make a spinoff of Defoe's character, I'll be in the theater day one.
00:30:44
Speaker
I, like, laughed every second Defoe was on screen.
00:30:49
Speaker
I thought he was awesome, but it's again, it's the same thing.
00:30:52
Speaker
We have sung Willem Dafoe's praises in this podcast, um, multiple times.
00:30:58
Speaker
You know, we, he was, uh, one of our guys, um,
00:31:03
Speaker
It's just so uneven.
00:31:05
Speaker
I mean, and you guys talked about it.
00:31:07
Speaker
Keaton is, and Joe, I love that you brought up, like, this feels like to me, and maybe we can talk about this a little bit, I think this is the signature Keaton role.
00:31:18
Speaker
It's definitely up there.
00:31:20
Speaker
But, like, even then you think about Batman.
00:31:22
Speaker
It's not my favorite Keaton role, but...
00:31:27
Speaker
I mean, my favorite Keaton role is 20 or fucking the other guys.
00:31:32
Speaker
He's so fucking funny in that movie.
00:31:34
Speaker
And it's, but like Keaton is excellent.
00:31:38
Speaker
He is like, it's the, it's the thing of not to bring up another podcast, but when the big picture did an episode talking about Michael Keaton hall of fame and they brought on Griffin Newman from blank check, they, they talked about it and it's like, he is,
00:31:55
Speaker
He's a guy who like intentionally makes weird choices, intentionally like wants to do odd comedies.
00:32:01
Speaker
Is a guy who like looks like fucking Bruce Wayne and is really good looking and is still very good looking.
00:32:08
Speaker
I mean, obviously not as Mr. Juice.
00:32:10
Speaker
The way he the way he moves his legs in particular doing the character acting of Beetlejuice is like so high level, like only he can do it.
00:32:22
Speaker
It happens when you own a character.
00:32:25
Speaker
I mean, and he is like a genius comedian.
00:32:27
Speaker
Like, if you guys haven't listened to any of his stand up, his stand up's really funny.
00:32:31
Speaker
Michael Keaton's done stand up.
00:32:33
Speaker
He started out as a started as a stand up.
00:32:36
Speaker
Yeah, it's very funny.
00:32:37
Speaker
He's a very good stand up.
00:32:38
Speaker
I've done it in 40 years, but yeah.
00:32:45
Speaker
His bit in 30 Rock is also really good.
00:32:51
Speaker
I loved that we all kind of brought up the practical effects, the miniatures.
00:32:55
Speaker
I love the models.
00:32:56
Speaker
Oh, the miniatures were so sick, yeah.
00:32:58
Speaker
But that's the stuff that... And I don't know how you guys really feel about Tim Burton.
00:33:03
Speaker
Tim Burton to me is like...
00:33:05
Speaker
maybe has the widest gap in terms of his best films and his worst films in terms of the quality.
00:33:13
Speaker
When I think about the Tim Burton films that I'm like, this is an all-time classic, is it's a lot of that stuff.
00:33:19
Speaker
It's practical effects.
00:33:21
Speaker
It is a craftsperson with a sense of style, a real sense of humor.
00:33:27
Speaker
It's part of what I really love about it.
00:33:29
Speaker
the Burton's that work is that he, that they are silly.
00:33:32
Speaker
And that even the ones that are like more serious, have a silliness to them.
00:33:36
Speaker
Does I'm just looking it up.
00:33:39
Speaker
I didn't think so.
00:33:40
Speaker
Tim Burton does not write his own movies.
00:33:42
Speaker
And I think that might be really not at all.
00:33:44
Speaker
That might be where the disparity comes from is that some of his best movies have great writers and some of his worst movies have terrible writers.
00:33:53
Speaker
I mean, like Scott Alexander and Larry Karaszewski writing Ed Wood.
00:33:57
Speaker
It's like, that's a huge deal.
00:33:59
Speaker
I think this movie is a case in point because in a lot of ways, this is such a studio written movie because it has a lot of parts that are awesome, but there's some doesn't connect in any ways.
00:34:10
Speaker
Whereas like the original Beetlejuice is seamless and fun.
00:34:17
Speaker
I think this movie said in like gripes aside, this is going to be a fantastic, fun rewatch for future years to come is like, for sure, just a double with the first one.
00:34:27
Speaker
Like, yeah, I think it really holds up in that one.
00:34:30
Speaker
Halloween family gags is like, yeah, awesome.
00:34:32
Speaker
Did you pop an edible?
00:34:33
Speaker
You wait for it to kick in and then you throw on Beetlejuice and then roll into Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.
00:34:39
Speaker
That third one comes out.
00:34:42
Speaker
I mean, the world is fucked.
00:34:44
Speaker
I mean, I think for me, the biggest issue with this movie in comparison to the original is that it doesn't really have a heart.
00:34:52
Speaker
This movie, it's just gags.
00:34:54
Speaker
Whereas the original has the Maitlands and the Maitlands are the heart.
00:34:57
Speaker
And this movie obviously can't for many, many reasons have the Maitlands.
00:35:02
Speaker
Real quick about the Maitlands.
00:35:04
Speaker
I just have to say this because it has been a little bit of a subject of debate in the household.
00:35:08
Speaker
Can we all, as four straight guys, admit that Alec Baldwin is hot as shit in that movie?
00:35:13
Speaker
In that fucking flannel?
00:35:14
Speaker
It's one of the hottest couples on screen ever. 100%.
00:35:22
Speaker
We're talking about the original Beetlejuice and how you and I couldn't agree on the fact that Alec Baldwin was hot in that movie.
00:35:30
Speaker
Yeah, give your perspective.
00:35:34
Speaker
The pictures I saw were just probably not good angles, first of all.
00:35:40
Speaker
I've never seen the original Beetlejuice.
00:35:44
Speaker
Zach just said case closed.
00:35:48
Speaker
And then he walked out.
00:35:52
Speaker
Well, also, Maddie has a very, very strange taste in actors.
Actors and Cameos: Opinions and Debates
00:35:56
Speaker
She'll be like, she'll say David Duchovny or whatever, and I'll be like, that makes sense.
00:36:00
Speaker
And then she'll be like, Mark Ruffalo now.
00:36:02
Speaker
And I'm like... Oh, interesting.
00:36:04
Speaker
I mean, I don't disagree.
00:36:06
Speaker
Mark Ruffalo is so freaking hot.
00:36:11
Speaker
I would say it's a little outlandish, I would say, but I agree with you.
00:36:15
Speaker
I think that there are women of a certain age.
00:36:17
Speaker
I would say that there are women between the ages of like 25 and like 40 who it's like Ruffalo is like an all-timer for them.
00:36:24
Speaker
Well, Matty, your first Ruffalo was 13.30, right?
00:36:27
Speaker
Well, that makes sense.
00:36:31
Speaker
That makes a lot of sense.
00:36:32
Speaker
My first Ruffalo was the Hulk.
00:36:36
Speaker
The biggest argument of my life in this perspective is that Clarissa doesn't think Harrison Ford has ever been hot.
00:36:44
Speaker
I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
00:36:47
Speaker
What the fuck are you talking about?
00:36:49
Speaker
And there's so many movies I want to watch.
00:36:51
Speaker
Like, I want to show her witness because I'm like, I think you'd really like this.
00:36:54
Speaker
But I just can't handle her being like, he's not good looking.
00:36:57
Speaker
In fucking Air Force One, which is the most neoconservative movie I've ever seen in my life.
00:37:03
Speaker
Yeah, but it's incredible.
00:37:03
Speaker
I'm still like, he is our president.
00:37:06
Speaker
I don't care what his policies are.
00:37:07
Speaker
Yeah, I would bend over for him right now.
00:37:11
Speaker
He's fucking... He's beautiful.
00:37:14
Speaker
And he's still... You watch Shrinking and you're like, damn, this guy could still get it.
00:37:19
Speaker
Like, he's fucking hot.
00:37:20
Speaker
You watch the new fucking Captain America trailer.
00:37:25
Speaker
A movie that looks like it's going to be dog shit.
00:37:27
Speaker
Oh, it's going to be so bad.
00:37:28
Speaker
The trailer was better than I thought the trailer was going to be, but it's still going to be terrible.
00:37:33
Speaker
I have a feeling that it'll be like all... Literally, I feel as though we have an all-Captain America movie season, even as somebody who like...
00:37:39
Speaker
kind of likes that era of marvel um is all of them are like half awesome half like utter dog ass so i have a feeling that there will be like half of that movie i'll be like holy shit this is like really working and then the moment like red hulk shows up and be like oh i want to like well i think the first captain america is like a good movie
00:37:59
Speaker
The first Captain America, the first Iron Man, and the first Thor.
00:38:02
Speaker
I like the first Thor, but those are two.
00:38:07
Speaker
Is it Kenneth Branagh?
00:38:09
Speaker
Yeah, Kenneth Branagh.
00:38:11
Speaker
Thor's Dark World is a dark ass, but... Yes, that one's really one good Thor movie, personally.
00:38:16
Speaker
I dislike Ragnarok more than a lot of people.
00:38:18
Speaker
I don't find it all that good.
00:38:20
Speaker
I don't really understand Taika.
00:38:22
Speaker
That's my big thing.
00:38:27
Speaker
You don't like Hunt for the Wilder People?
00:38:28
Speaker
That's the one that I like.
00:38:30
Speaker
What about what we do in the Shadows movie?
00:38:35
Speaker
I think the show is better.
00:38:37
Speaker
The show is better than the movie?
00:38:39
Speaker
You guys got a fucking... I don't know.
00:38:41
Speaker
I don't know what's fucking wrong with you.
00:38:43
Speaker
The show is so much better.
00:38:44
Speaker
The show is so painfully mediocre to me.
00:38:49
Speaker
There's only one good episode, and it's the one where he goes to Uson, Arizona.
00:38:56
Speaker
And also, every time... New York City.
00:38:58
Speaker
Matt Berry is the only one on that show that is consistently funny, and it's just because Matt Berry does his... Because he's the funniest fucking person who ever lived.
00:39:05
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it's so fucking i was watching this video about him explaining how he does that voice like when when he chooses to do it and he's like it's never it's never scripted or directed i just do it when i can tell my other actor is slipping like when my scene partner is like when they're slipping i'll throw that voice in there and it brings him back in that makes sense that's really good he's a talented guy the most devious bastard in new york city
00:39:30
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I also think the movie's better, but the show has some awesome bits.
00:39:34
Speaker
It's very funny to me.
00:39:36
Speaker
The energy vampire?
00:39:39
Speaker
I tried to watch that show, and when I watched the whole first season, I laughed one every four episodes.
00:39:50
Speaker
I think it's so good.
00:39:52
Speaker
But I will say that when I watched the movie version, I had to pause the movie so I wouldn't miss the next joke because I was laughing so hard.
00:40:02
Speaker
The bit where Taika Waititi in that movie bites that girl's neck and he can't stop the blood and he's like, oh, shit.
00:40:09
Speaker
fuck and he's just like trying to keep the blood down yeah that's one of my favorite and also the bit where they talk about why they like virgins more and it's like imagine you're eating a sandwich and it would be better if no one had fucked it that is funny i need to re-watch yeah i haven't seen it in a long time to be totally fair but i do really like the show
00:40:34
Speaker
So Beetlejuice, huh?
00:40:35
Speaker
Yeah, Beetlejuice.
00:40:38
Speaker
You know what movie sucks is Jojo Rabbit.
00:40:43
Speaker
I said we haven't even mentioned Danny DeVito with Beetlejuice.
00:40:47
Speaker
That was a painful cameo to me.
00:40:50
Speaker
You thought it was a painful cameo?
00:40:51
Speaker
I just, I thought that it, I liked seeing him.
00:40:54
Speaker
I liked seeing Danny, but it just, it didn't feel very well written.
00:40:58
Speaker
Like it was just like drinking antifreeze and listening to Buffett.
00:41:01
Speaker
It was such a fun.
00:41:02
Speaker
That's all it was.
00:41:03
Speaker
It didn't do anything for the story.
00:41:05
Speaker
It doesn't need to.
00:41:07
Speaker
He's responsible for reanimating Dolores.
00:41:11
Speaker
I guess, but it just felt like it felt like they needed the scene to reanimate Dolores.
00:41:15
Speaker
They're like, just throw Danny DeVito in there and have him do a bit.
00:41:19
Speaker
It's better than any other version of that scene.
00:41:22
Speaker
If he asked her to pop a titty, would you have liked the cameo?
00:41:27
Speaker
What if Danny Vito just sees her re-innovate and just goes... If you just... He just comes and dies.
00:41:36
Speaker
There's a bit in the movie Brotherhood of the Wolf, which, by the way, fantastic.
00:41:42
Speaker
never seen uh it's a it's like a french canadian like grimdark fantasy set in like the 1800s about werewolves awesome who made who made this flick some french fuck uh sounds about right french fuck or french canadian fuck
00:42:00
Speaker
It doesn't matter.
00:42:01
Speaker
Monica Bellucci is in it.
00:42:03
Speaker
And there is a scene in this movie where the main character is having sex with Monica Bellucci.
00:42:09
Speaker
And the camera flies over her body.
00:42:14
Speaker
And when it gets to her boobs, the boob crossfades into a match cut with mountains.
00:42:24
Speaker
Sounds like the best movie ever made.
00:42:26
Speaker
Her boobs turn into a snowy mountain.
00:42:29
Speaker
And I was like, now that is cinema.
00:42:32
Speaker
Bong Joon-ho, to me, that is cinema.
00:42:36
Speaker
Okay, so I think we kind of... Austin's looking up Brotherhood of the Wolf right now.
00:42:40
Speaker
I'm just seeing who directed it.
00:42:41
Speaker
I'm just seeing who directed it.
00:42:42
Speaker
I'm going to kind of start to wrap up our discussion on the film Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.
00:42:47
Speaker
But I have a couple of questions.
00:42:52
Speaker
This is a little bit of backstory before this is the next credit that is upcoming for Tim Burton is Attack of the 50-Foot Woman with a script written by Gillian Flynn.
00:43:05
Speaker
I'm kind of into it.
00:43:08
Speaker
I'd be fascinated by.
00:43:10
Speaker
I like the idea of it.
00:43:11
Speaker
And also, Gillian Flynn's a pretty good writer.
00:43:14
Speaker
I think he's a genius.
00:43:16
Speaker
But like, Gone Girl is like one of the, you know, eight best films of the 2010s.
00:43:23
Speaker
I'd agree with you.
00:43:25
Speaker
So, I have to ask is, do we think Burton is back?
00:43:31
Speaker
Or is he like soft?
00:43:32
Speaker
It takes two to be back.
00:43:33
Speaker
It takes two to be back.
00:43:34
Speaker
You have to hit twice.
00:43:37
Speaker
I was, I was glad of the things I saw.
00:43:39
Speaker
I mean, I, I'm not going to go so far as to say he's back, but like, it felt like he was touching an old nerve in a way that I have not seen from him in a long time, which made me happy.
00:43:50
Speaker
That being said, I have not watched many of the recent, like I didn't watch any of Wednesday, but Clarissa loves it.
00:43:57
Speaker
But just because she's a goth at heart.
00:44:00
Speaker
So it makes sense.
00:44:06
Speaker
I think, ironically, there is a lot of life in this movie, despite all of its flaws.
00:44:13
Speaker
But yeah, as far as seriously looking at the artistic element of it, we'll see.
00:44:21
Speaker
I also... I don't know.
00:44:23
Speaker
I'm sorry, go ahead.
00:44:23
Speaker
I agree with everybody.
00:44:24
Speaker
I don't think there's anything new for me to say.
00:44:26
Speaker
I also want to ask.
00:44:28
Speaker
It's funny that Austin brought this up.
00:44:30
Speaker
I was going to say, I think...
00:44:33
Speaker
I think Tim Burton's only made one and a half good movies in the 21st century.
00:44:40
Speaker
I think his 80s and 90s are truly some of the best that's ever been done.
00:44:44
Speaker
I mean, like fucking Mars Attacks and Batman and Beetlejuice.
00:44:46
Speaker
I was going to say, my hot take is that I think he's made my favorite two Batman movies.
00:44:51
Speaker
I love his Batman movies.
00:44:52
Speaker
I wouldn't go that far.
00:44:53
Speaker
They're not my favorite, but they're fucking excellent.
00:44:56
Speaker
And the shit he's able to get out of, particularly his villains in the Batman movies, is unbelievable to me.
00:45:03
Speaker
I wish more superhero movies were able to go that far.
00:45:08
Speaker
I said this movie felt really uneven.
00:45:10
Speaker
The half that is awesome is really awesome.
00:45:14
Speaker
I think the only other good movie he's made in the 21st century is Big Fish.
00:45:18
Speaker
I'm like... Which I like.
00:45:19
Speaker
I'm a Big Fish denier.
00:45:21
Speaker
I do not like that movie.
00:45:22
Speaker
I think it's overrated as well.
00:45:24
Speaker
I fucking love Big Fish.
00:45:25
Speaker
I like it, but I think I saw it at the right time.
00:45:28
Speaker
I did too, and also that was a movie my dad and I used to watch a decent amount.
00:45:31
Speaker
Yeah, that'll do it.
00:45:33
Speaker
And as all of you know in personal life, Rankin men are criers.
00:45:38
Speaker
We like to cry, like to let it out.
00:45:41
Speaker
It's a real old school weepy.
00:45:42
Speaker
And so like sitting there with my father, who is a man who like...
00:45:48
Speaker
goes from like not showing any emotion to showing all of the emotion is it's like you just sit and then you wait and then it's just like yeah I think I think my problem with big fish is the same problem I have well I have many problems too big but uh it's too big even
00:46:04
Speaker
But Big Fish and Forrest Gump, both of these huge, epic, sprawling stories that take little vignettes of the story and show us that.
00:46:14
Speaker
And I cannot emotionally latch on to that type of movie.
00:46:19
Speaker
I have a hard time.
00:46:20
Speaker
If something's epic, make it four hours long.
00:46:22
Speaker
I don't need you to shorten it.
00:46:24
Speaker
Yeah, that's like fucking you wanted.
00:46:26
Speaker
You wanted the cut of Forrest Gump where he prematurely ejaculates many more times.
00:46:32
Speaker
OK, like I'm thinking of.
00:46:35
Speaker
Also, you want the cut scene where he saves Martin Luther King from being attacked by dogs.
00:46:42
Speaker
I think that's a cut.
00:46:43
Speaker
I think that we should let Robert Zemeckis be as racist as possible because I think because then I think he would be able to make less movies.
00:46:53
Speaker
Robert Zemeckis single-handedly tried to take rock and roll away from black people in Back to the Future by inventing rock and roll before Chuck Berry did.
00:47:04
Speaker
But Back to the Future still rules.
00:47:05
Speaker
Back to the Future is a good movie, but that scene is so funny because he's like, yo, what if Chuck Berry
00:47:12
Speaker
Stole his riff from a white guy.
00:47:15
Speaker
I mean, that's, that's the John Mulaney bit.
00:47:17
Speaker
And he does that a bit about like, and a white guy wrote Johnny B. Good.
00:47:20
Speaker
So we took that from him.
00:47:22
Speaker
It's like, Oh, really?
00:47:23
Speaker
Is that, Oh, I forgot that's a Mulaney bit.
00:47:24
Speaker
It's a really good bit.
00:47:27
Speaker
Let it, let it be known.
00:47:29
Speaker
If any beautiful bisexual women want to watch Chapel Rohn and John Mulaney on SNL with me, I will be free on November 2nd.
00:47:37
Speaker
Isn't there another bisexual thing coming up?
00:47:39
Speaker
It's like Billie Eilish and someone else.
00:47:41
Speaker
Who's Billie Eilish's host?
00:47:43
Speaker
Is it not Michael Keaton?
00:47:44
Speaker
I'm pretty sure it's Michael Keaton.
00:47:45
Speaker
If it's Michael Keaton, that's a beautiful bisexual evening.
00:47:48
Speaker
Bargatze is hosting again.
00:47:51
Speaker
That's very exciting.
00:47:52
Speaker
Bargatze is hilarious.
00:47:54
Speaker
Bargatze is very funny.
00:47:55
Speaker
His George Washington sketch is maybe the best sketch of the last two years.
00:48:00
Speaker
his last hosting gig on SNL was genuinely like, I think pound for pound, the best episode they've had in probably three or four.
00:48:09
Speaker
I'm just holding out hope that Lauren will either.
00:48:12
Speaker
I don't want Lauren Michaels to die.
00:48:13
Speaker
I let that, let that, let me, let me just preface it with that.
00:48:18
Speaker
Just give the, give the reins to Tina Fey.
00:48:23
Speaker
I don't know if she would do it.
00:48:27
Speaker
Personally, I think that would be a great way to coast into retirement.
00:48:33
Speaker
You take over the responsibilities of hiring talent and overseeing it, and then you hire a fucking good-ass head writer, and then you just let it go.
00:48:42
Speaker
I think I'd rather have Seth Meyers in there because I think he's funny.
00:48:45
Speaker
Let it be known that when I suggested a woman, Zach suggested a white man.
00:48:51
Speaker
Myers is good, though.
00:48:53
Speaker
I love Seth Myers.
00:48:54
Speaker
His head writer days were very good.
00:48:57
Speaker
Whereas the Jost and Che had writers.
00:49:00
Speaker
I think Tina Fey is one of the only... One of my favorite writers who, as she has aged as a comedian, has not dipped into the claptor thing that most older comedians do where they're just like, isn't this Trump guy weird?
00:49:18
Speaker
She still has teeth.
00:49:21
Speaker
Her last Mean Girls was not good.
00:49:23
Speaker
but she and that's i don't blame her fault yeah um but she's she's one of the only writers and comedians from that age that still has teeth yeah the the musical guest on the nate bargazzi episode is cold play i would not say that's a bisexual evening um that's a very straight white evening but then the next so we're starting with gene smart and jelly roll which i think will be a good episode fucking insane
00:49:47
Speaker
And then we have Nate Barganzi and Coldplay.
00:49:48
Speaker
The next three after that are interesting.
00:49:50
Speaker
I don't know how good they'll be, but Ariana Grande and Stevie Nicks.
00:49:54
Speaker
Ariana Grande is hosting or singing?
00:49:56
Speaker
Ariana Grande is hosting.
00:49:57
Speaker
Stevie Nicks is the musical guest.
00:49:58
Speaker
I would kind of rather just have Ariana Grande doing both.
00:50:02
Speaker
Not for the fact of I like to hear Ariana Grande sing that much, but I think just make that the case.
00:50:08
Speaker
And then Michael Keaton and Billie Eilish, which I think will be- That's going to be fucking sick.
00:50:11
Speaker
That's a good evening.
00:50:12
Speaker
I think that'll be really fun.
00:50:13
Speaker
And then, yeah, Melania and Chapel Rhone, which I think is great.
00:50:17
Speaker
Who is the head writer right now?
00:50:18
Speaker
Because it's Jost and Che are not- Jost and Che stepped down.
00:50:21
Speaker
Are they still doing Weekend?
00:50:22
Speaker
Someone would do some Googling.
00:50:23
Speaker
They are, but they just stepped down and said, Ryder, I'll do some research.
00:50:28
Speaker
Eilish has been a musical guest before, and if I remember correctly, she had some fun bits.
00:50:35
Speaker
I think there would be some really good bits getting her in a skit with Keaton, because I think he is, despite being a man in his 70s, is like...
00:50:45
Speaker
I think he's still like just outwardly funny enough and like kind of timelessly funny that I think they could get some, some good shit together.
00:50:53
Speaker
The head writers on this past season were Streeter Seidel.
00:50:56
Speaker
It was very funny.
00:50:58
Speaker
Alison Gates, who's not a name I know.
00:51:01
Speaker
She's, she's been on, she's been working at SNL for a while.
00:51:05
Speaker
She started, she went to Yale and then she did second city and I, and the new for an SNL head writer.
00:51:13
Speaker
And then Kent sublet,
00:51:14
Speaker
is the other head writer who's not a name I know but Streeter is good yeah he's a fucking apartment but I mean I'm excited to see what happens I found SNL the past few years to like be moderately exhausting unless there's a really good host but I really like James Austin Johnson there have been some better movies last season like the that's true
00:51:39
Speaker
um the jill and hall episode was very very good i mean he's he's willing to commit and and that's he's like a new hanks in yeah he's not as good as hanks i just don't think that there's like i have such a problem with the writing like i just said it's all it's all claptor there's no they're not writing jokes yeah like they're just writing these scenes that are like these skits that are kind of funny and then they'll do one that's like political and not funny at all yeah yeah but
00:52:07
Speaker
I mean, that to me has kind of always been the case.
00:52:09
Speaker
Like if you look back, I mean, I was just, I've been listening a lot to the Seth Meyers and Lonely Island podcast, which is very, very good and very enjoyable because it's just them breaking down their skits.
00:52:19
Speaker
And I very much guys are very smart and funny.
00:52:22
Speaker
And I really enjoy, like, I enjoy it when hater does it.
00:52:25
Speaker
Like I enjoy anybody talking about SNL because it just seems like a fascinating world to live in.
00:52:32
Speaker
Oh gosh, I lost my train of thought.
00:52:33
Speaker
But I think like with those guys, it was, it felt very electrifying.
00:52:37
Speaker
Whereas now it just feels kind of stale, but they also talk about the fact that like, I was just listening to an episode today and they were talking about how Jim Downey wrote this like insane, like 15 minute sketch.
00:52:49
Speaker
That was not funny, but it was very political.
00:52:51
Speaker
And it was just like, you couldn't tell Jim Downey, no.
00:52:54
Speaker
And his sketch was going to get on the air because he'd been there since the beginning.
00:52:59
Speaker
I think I think it's always been a little up and down recently.
00:53:02
Speaker
It's just felt a little less alive to me.
00:53:04
Speaker
I don't I fucking hate Rob Schneider.
00:53:06
Speaker
I don't I don't I'm going to preface this.
00:53:08
Speaker
He made a really good point about that fucking Kate McKinnon singing.
00:53:13
Speaker
Imagine as Hillary Clinton.
00:53:15
Speaker
And he kept saying, please let there be a joke.
00:53:17
Speaker
Please let there be a joke again.
00:53:18
Speaker
And there just wasn't.
00:53:19
Speaker
And that is such bullshit.
00:53:24
Speaker
It's truly, it's despicably evil almost.
00:53:27
Speaker
Like, it's just like, why the fuck would you do that?
00:53:31
Speaker
Like Tina Fey, bringing it back to Tina Fey, one of the most inspired comedy writing moves of the past decade
00:53:38
Speaker
a million years is her taking Sarah Palin speech and giving it word for word and not changing a single fucking thing.
00:53:45
Speaker
Yeah, that is funny.
00:53:48
Speaker
I told Maddie, I was like, if, if SNL has any balls, they'll do a scene where JD Vance goes to an ice cream store and just talks to the employees as JD Vance.
00:53:58
Speaker
The exact same scene from the fucking, yeah.
00:54:01
Speaker
I, uh, the interesting thing about,
00:54:03
Speaker
SNL for me right now, which is hilarious.
00:54:05
Speaker
This is a film podcast and we're talking about late night television.
00:54:08
Speaker
There's that Saturday Night Live movie coming out, so it's tangentially related.
00:54:13
Speaker
I was going to say, I'm excited about the movie.
00:54:16
Speaker
Dude, I saw the trailer again last night when I saw... It's an exciting trailer.
00:54:21
Speaker
I'm unfortunately like Gabriel LaBelle has been in one of my favorite movies in the last five years.
00:54:26
Speaker
If not my favorite movie of the last five years.
00:54:29
Speaker
And Cooper Hoffman is the son of my favorite actor of all time.
00:54:33
Speaker
I think it looks good.
00:54:34
Speaker
Like I'm not even going to, I'm not going to, I'm not going to mince words.
00:54:37
Speaker
I think the trailer looks good.
00:54:41
Speaker
I like SNL as I mentioned.
00:54:42
Speaker
A thing I was going to say is I also like SNL.
00:54:45
Speaker
The funny thing that I feel like is happening right now is there are people who I like who are currently on SNL who I like not on SNL.
00:54:54
Speaker
Bowen Yang is a person who I find to be very enjoyable, very funny.
00:54:59
Speaker
Actively hilarious.
00:55:01
Speaker
And I just could not care less.
00:55:08
Speaker
Sarah Sherman is hilarious.
00:55:11
Speaker
Not on SNL because they don't know how to use her.
00:55:13
Speaker
They didn't know how to use Kyle Mooney.
00:55:15
Speaker
They didn't know how to use Beck Bennett.
00:55:17
Speaker
They didn't know how to use Tim Robinson.
00:55:19
Speaker
That's what I'm saying.
00:55:20
Speaker
They need to get someone in charge who knows how to use comedians because Lauren doesn't understand Kyle Mooney.
00:55:25
Speaker
He doesn't understand Sarah Sherman.
00:55:27
Speaker
I mean, Lorne Michaels will be dead in the next 10 years.
00:55:31
Speaker
Like, he's very old.
00:55:33
Speaker
So, like, you know.
00:55:34
Speaker
I'm going to give him my blood.
00:55:36
Speaker
I mean, he could go into cryosleep and outlive us all.
00:55:39
Speaker
Like, I'm not denying that.
00:55:40
Speaker
He's a very, very rich man, but one of the richest.
00:55:44
Speaker
Well, I think we should probably stop talking about Saturday Night Live.
00:55:49
Speaker
Let's talk about legacy sequels.
00:55:52
Speaker
You mean legacy sequels?
00:55:55
Speaker
I also have written down a Lego hyphen sequel.
00:55:59
Speaker
So we mentioned at the top of the show and thinking about legacy sequels, thinking about these films that have large stretches of time, which now feels like it's everything that exists currently in our...
Legacy Sequels Analyzed: From Top Gun to Matrix
00:56:14
Speaker
I mean, even this year, we got Twisters.
00:56:19
Speaker
We got the sequel to a legacy sequel with Ghostbusters Frozen Empire.
00:56:26
Speaker
You know, it feels like it's everywhere just the last couple of years.
00:56:29
Speaker
We've got Candyman, Top Gun Maverick, Jurassic World, its various sequels.
00:56:33
Speaker
Was Candyman not a reboot?
00:56:35
Speaker
It's various sequels.
00:56:36
Speaker
You can call Candyman a reboot, but, you know, it's kind of all in the soup.
00:56:41
Speaker
I mean, we've gotten two Indiana Jones sequels in this century.
00:56:46
Speaker
But even then, like thinking about.
00:56:49
Speaker
It's an interesting thing because I think it's really easy to write off a legacy sequel, even when Top Gun Maverick came out, which I think is the high watermark for a legacy sequel.
00:56:59
Speaker
There were people who were like, it kind of sucks.
00:57:02
Speaker
There's one better, which is Blade Runner.
00:57:07
Speaker
I mean, I, that's maybe my high watermark.
00:57:09
Speaker
I think it's also my high watermark, but I think if we're talking about like the general public, I mean, I was one of the like 13 freaks who went and saw Blade Runner 2049 in the theater.
00:57:19
Speaker
I watched it in a completely empty IMAX theater on a Saturday matinee.
00:57:28
Speaker
and Top Gun Maverick made a gazillion dollars.
00:57:32
Speaker
But even like one, perhaps the greatest living filmmaker, Martin Scorsese,
00:57:38
Speaker
made a legacy sequel.
00:57:39
Speaker
The color of money exists.
00:57:41
Speaker
And it's fucking awesome.
00:57:43
Speaker
It's a great movie.
00:57:44
Speaker
I think the thing with legacy equals that they only work if they can, if they can understand what made the movie good in the first place.
00:57:52
Speaker
And what made the movie work in the first, like for instance, Top Gun Maverick understands that the best part of Top Gun is homoerotic relationships and cool plane stunts.
00:58:05
Speaker
And a story about how America is awesome at war, but only against either Russians or an unnamed terrorist group that you can't see what their faces look like.
00:58:15
Speaker
So we don't know where they're from.
00:58:17
Speaker
Well, I would say I would say about Top Gun Maverick, I think I agree with you that it's in that top tier of legacy.
00:58:22
Speaker
Well, it's probably the second best of the ones that I can think of.
00:58:26
Speaker
To me, it might be the only one that surpasses its predecessor.
00:58:32
Speaker
I don't have a problem with that take at all.
00:58:34
Speaker
For me, I like the first one better still.
00:58:37
Speaker
I just rewatched both of them recently.
00:58:39
Speaker
I actually had not seen the first one before.
00:58:41
Speaker
That was like a massive blind spot for me.
00:58:44
Speaker
And it delivered as a movie better.
00:58:48
Speaker
I love the first one.
00:58:49
Speaker
I just think Maverick had the capability to do more with the stunts because of the time that had passed.
00:58:56
Speaker
And to me, that elevated it.
00:58:58
Speaker
There was more story in the flying in the first one for me.
00:59:03
Speaker
But it's also splitting hairs.
00:59:06
Speaker
To say one is better than the other.
00:59:07
Speaker
They're both phenomenal movies.
00:59:10
Speaker
So then I want to ask, there are... Joe, I like that you brought up specifically the thought of
00:59:17
Speaker
You have to be able to capture and understand what made the originals good.
00:59:23
Speaker
I have a couple that I feel are slight exceptions.
00:59:27
Speaker
I think The Matrix Resurrections is an excellent film that isn't... In theory, part of the whole bit is trying to recapture The Matrix, and in reality, the film is totally different.
00:59:41
Speaker
And then I think Creed, despite the fact that it is still a boxing movie, is way more film about fathers and sons than it is about overcoming your station in life.
00:59:50
Speaker
Because in reality, it's the exact opposite of Rocky because it's like this kid is essentially a Nepo baby.
00:59:56
Speaker
He's the son of one of the greatest fighters in history who grew up rich and then just has to get over his own bullshit.
01:00:04
Speaker
And it's a film about fathers and sons.
01:00:05
Speaker
And so it's an interesting thought.
01:00:07
Speaker
And I bring those up specifically not to like, try to have an argument, because I don't know why for me, I look at and maybe they're just excellent films.
01:00:17
Speaker
And that's why they work.
01:00:18
Speaker
But why like, even a film like Matrix Resurrections works so well in the context of the Matrix as a legacy sequel, despite the fact that like,
01:00:32
Speaker
If you look at The Matrix now through the lens of Lana and Lily's journey through their lives, it's really easy to see a lot of what they were experiencing as two trans women.
01:00:45
Speaker
But The Matrix Resurrections is the only one that is directly in the text feels like a trans film and feels like a trans text.
01:00:55
Speaker
And so it's interesting.
01:00:58
Speaker
rambling and musing, trying to see if it sparks an idea amongst any of us of what makes those.
01:01:04
Speaker
My first thought is, yes, Matrix Intersections is awesome, and it does kind of turn on its head what made the original good.
01:01:12
Speaker
But you have to remember that us four are freaks who liked it, and the general public did not like this movie.
01:01:19
Speaker
Because it didn't capture what made the Matrix fun.
01:01:24
Speaker
I think it captures what makes the Matrix good, which is a subversion of expectations.
01:01:28
Speaker
It's sort of about who we are as people.
01:01:33
Speaker
It's about modernism and how to find yourself in this world.
01:01:40
Speaker
techno hellscape that we live in but it doesn't do the thing that the matrix did which is like christ figure martial arts movie uh and instead makes it what it was actually about which is love and that's most of the wachowski's films are films about how love is more powerful than the devil who is also a business bro
01:02:06
Speaker
And the same, I mean, Creed is different because Creed is just an awesome fucking sports movie.
01:02:11
Speaker
And it, and I think that that is one of those movies where they were like, where maybe, uh, Coogler wanted to make a boxing movie and they were like, you can, if it's about Apollo Creed.
01:02:24
Speaker
And it was like, OK, sure.
01:02:25
Speaker
I think that's an interesting avenue because I think there's a lot of that where it's like somebody comes to a studio with an idea and they're like, well, the thing that's hot right now is adapting these older properties.
01:02:38
Speaker
And so if you can tie it in, that's great.
01:02:40
Speaker
And then you have a good filmmaker at the helm and they're able to do something with it.
01:02:43
Speaker
So we'll talk about this in October.
01:02:47
Speaker
Just thinking about it.
01:02:47
Speaker
I was trying to think about what justifies a legacy sequel.
01:02:52
Speaker
I was trying to think through these ideas in my head and...
01:02:57
Speaker
It really just boils down to like, because I guess I get a bad taste in my mouth just with the idea of a legacy sequel.
01:03:04
Speaker
And it's for no reason other than like, at my core, I want more original stories coming out of Hollywood.
01:03:11
Speaker
And like, for that reason, I...
01:03:14
Speaker
for no other reason than that and they could be fun movies i haven't seen the new jumanji stuff like they're pretty good yeah they probably are but i've just never had interest yeah but as far as what justifies a legacy sequel it's really not that much more complicated than can you write a good movie that exists in that world
01:03:34
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I think I'm of the belief that I don't hate any genre of movie.
01:03:38
Speaker
Like, I don't even hate superhero movies.
01:03:40
Speaker
I'm not, I don't hate Marvel movies because they're superhero movies.
01:03:43
Speaker
I hate them because they're fucking soulless cash grabs.
01:03:46
Speaker
If they would write a good movie, I'd watch it and love it.
01:03:50
Speaker
We talked about Batman earlier.
01:03:51
Speaker
The Reeves Batman is super cool.
01:03:53
Speaker
Yeah, it's awesome.
01:03:54
Speaker
It's a great flick.
01:03:56
Speaker
Well, and I'll talk about this probably my high and low, but Penguin is a superhero spinoff show that I really enjoyed the pilot of.
01:04:03
Speaker
Yeah, I'm excited to watch the pilot.
01:04:05
Speaker
Yeah, it's really good.
01:04:07
Speaker
But what I was going to say about legacy sequels and just having a good person at the helm or being forced into writing a legacy sequel, even if that's not what you didn't want to make in the first place, in October we'll talk about it because it'll be part of a thing we're doing.
01:04:20
Speaker
But The Exorcist 3...
01:04:23
Speaker
was pitched by William Peter Blatty.
01:04:26
Speaker
He wanted to do an adaptation of his own book, Legion, which is not in The Exorcist.
01:04:32
Speaker
It has nothing to do with The Exorcist.
01:04:35
Speaker
It's just another demonic possession story.
01:04:37
Speaker
William Peter Blatty, we should also say, is the author of the book, The Exorcist, as well.
01:04:41
Speaker
So he wrote the book
01:04:43
Speaker
Friedkin directed the first adaptation.
01:04:46
Speaker
Then the second one happened and both Friedkin and Blatty were like, this fucking sucks.
01:04:52
Speaker
But then Blatty was the studios and said, I want to make a movie and I want to make an adaptation of Legion.
01:04:57
Speaker
And they said, no, you can make it if you say it's The Exorcist 3 and put characters from The Exorcist in it.
01:05:05
Speaker
And he went, fine.
01:05:07
Speaker
It's a great movie.
01:05:08
Speaker
So The Exorcist 3 is, for intents and purposes, a legacy sequel because it has these little moments that are from the first movie and have interesting play with the first movie, but it's not like a direct sequel, I guess.
01:05:27
Speaker
I'm excited to talk about that.
01:05:28
Speaker
It's kind of an interesting Hollywood maneuver to be like, okay, so there's an original film that you wrote.
01:05:35
Speaker
Put Rocky in it and we'll call it even.
01:05:39
Speaker
Here's your financing.
01:05:43
Speaker
And it was going to be the next point that I brought up.
01:05:44
Speaker
And so, Joe, you're we're on the same wavelength here.
01:05:47
Speaker
You brought up The Exorcist 3.
01:05:49
Speaker
And I was about to bring up and you and you talked about like, fine, you can make this movie if you can tie it in.
01:05:57
Speaker
But an interesting thing is that I think most of the bad legacy sequels are films that are attempting to just be true sequels.
01:06:05
Speaker
I think most of those Jurassic World movies suck shit.
01:06:09
Speaker
I think the Ghostbusters legacy sequel sucks shit.
01:06:12
Speaker
I have faith in the new Jurassic Park movie.
01:06:16
Speaker
I'm excited about the prospects of it.
01:06:19
Speaker
What is giving you that faith?
01:06:20
Speaker
A guy who has now made... Oh, I'm sorry.
01:06:24
Speaker
Well, the thing that's giving me faith is I like the director.
01:06:28
Speaker
I think that he's made Gareth not... Which one's the raid guy, Evans or Edwards?
01:06:35
Speaker
No, the raid is Evans.
01:06:36
Speaker
Okay, Gareth Edwards, who did The Creator and The Godzilla that I like.
01:06:42
Speaker
At least the dinosaurs will look good is what we're saying.
01:06:45
Speaker
But here's the thing.
01:06:46
Speaker
Dinosaurs will look good, but it's also got a script by fucking...
01:06:53
Speaker
I'll look at some research.
01:06:54
Speaker
I'm going to keep talking about what I was talking about.
01:06:57
Speaker
So a lot of those are really bad, but you brought up The Exorcist and a guy who is now made, in my opinion, four quite bad horror legacy sequels is a guy who I think 15 years ago we all would have considered a genius, and it's David Gordon Green.
01:07:15
Speaker
I think DGG has made four awful Legacy sequels.
01:07:20
Speaker
I am perhaps the biggest hater of his Halloween trilogy out of anybody.
01:07:25
Speaker
They're not good movies.
01:07:27
Speaker
Like, deep, deep, deep hatred of them.
01:07:30
Speaker
And it's so fascinating because...
01:07:33
Speaker
He is a guy who they're just like, yeah, sure.
01:07:37
Speaker
Now, granted, he's been pulled from The Exorcist.
01:07:39
Speaker
He was originally tabbed to make an entire Exorcist legacy sequel.
01:07:43
Speaker
Yeah, and then he made a doo-doo shit-in-the-bed movie, and everyone freaked out.
01:07:49
Speaker
But, you know, the Halloween trilogy made a boatload of money.
01:07:54
Speaker
I mean, like Halloween Kills or Ends or whatever it's called was like the only movie that made money that year.
01:08:00
Speaker
That's two of them.
01:08:00
Speaker
Yeah, that's two different ones.
01:08:02
Speaker
Yeah, Halloween Kills is the middle one.
01:08:04
Speaker
Halloween Ends is the third one.
01:08:09
Speaker
I mean, like it was the only movie that made money during COVID, which is not entirely true, but made a lot of money.
01:08:15
Speaker
And it's just a, it's a fascinating thing because he is a person who,
01:08:20
Speaker
He was a great writer.
01:08:21
Speaker
Everyone liked what he was doing.
01:08:23
Speaker
He was one of the head writers on one of the most popular shows on HBO.
01:08:27
Speaker
And they were like, great, let's see what you can do.
01:08:29
Speaker
And he was like, I love these movies.
01:08:32
Speaker
I want to make sequels out of a place of love.
01:08:34
Speaker
And one of the weirder things that happens in Hollywood, and I feel like it happens a lot in horror, is guys who tell you how much they love the property and they want to make a movie about how much they love the property and then it fucking...
01:08:48
Speaker
It's the same thing with Spiral.
01:08:50
Speaker
Spiral is the same thing.
01:08:52
Speaker
It's like Chris Rock brought his chilling vision.
01:08:55
Speaker
Horror is a genre that is angry.
01:08:59
Speaker
It's not a sappy, I love this genre.
01:09:02
Speaker
You make a horror movie when you're fucking pissed.
Rogue One and Tron Legacy: Visuals and Substance
01:09:05
Speaker
The guys who do it because they love something, it's missing the entire premise of the construction.
01:09:11
Speaker
What I was saying earlier is that the new Jurassic Park movie has a David Co-op script.
01:09:16
Speaker
Who wrote the original.
01:09:17
Speaker
Who wrote the first two, which are both good, and I'm a Lost World defender.
01:09:21
Speaker
I'm also a Lost World defender.
01:09:22
Speaker
David Cappรฉ made a bunch of really good movies.
01:09:24
Speaker
But Gareth Edwards is a director who is a really fantastic visual director who, when he has a good writer, makes great movies.
01:09:33
Speaker
The Godzilla movie that he made fucking rips.
01:09:36
Speaker
Rogue One is the best thing Star Wars has made in a long time and the creator I liked so fuck y'all I haven't seen the creator either it's fine the creator is a movie with a bad script and a fantastic third act Red's about to shit on Rogue One I think the final half hour of Rogue One is perfect and then everything else in that movie is kind of bad
01:10:02
Speaker
Well, it's because that movie is basically the Battle of Algiers in space, but without any of the teeth of the Battle of Algiers.
01:10:11
Speaker
And when it's the battle, I'm like, fuck yeah, dude, battles are cool.
01:10:15
Speaker
I don't give a shit.
01:10:16
Speaker
I think it's a good script.
01:10:19
Speaker
Rogue One could be considered a legacy sequel perhaps maybe yeah it is that's a prequel doesn't count legacy prequel fuck you it's a prequel I bet you prequel my dick in your mouth
01:10:37
Speaker
Oh, please take a second.
01:10:39
Speaker
Any final legacy sequel thoughts?
01:10:43
Speaker
Anything you guys want to say?
01:10:44
Speaker
You want to talk about SNL some more?
01:10:47
Speaker
You want to condone anything Mel Gibson's done as of late?
01:10:50
Speaker
I want to talk about the TikTok I sent saying that the greatest movie you've never seen is Tron Legacy.
01:10:55
Speaker
That is really funny.
01:10:57
Speaker
Tron Legacy sequel.
01:10:59
Speaker
It's really funny that movie is a legacy sequel and they were just like, what do we name it?
01:11:05
Speaker
Also, Tron has Jared Leto in it.
01:11:07
Speaker
I think that movie is fine and good.
01:11:11
Speaker
It's made by Joseph Kaczynski.
01:11:13
Speaker
He's a great director.
01:11:16
Speaker
The soundtrack rips, it looks cool, but the new movie does have Jared Leto in it.
01:11:21
Speaker
And, I mean, that's just so... And also Evan Peters, who hasn't been in anything good in a while.
Actor Critiques: Gibson, Leto, and Spacey
01:11:27
Speaker
This guy clearly didn't watch Mayor of Easttown.
01:11:29
Speaker
He was very good in that show.
01:11:29
Speaker
He's very good in Mayor of Easttown.
01:11:31
Speaker
Directed by the same guy who's directing The Penguin Show, Craig Zobel.
01:11:34
Speaker
Who also directed The Hunt, which is vaguely conservative.
01:11:39
Speaker
Joe, I gotta ask, why do you defend Mel Gibson but not Jared Leto?
01:11:44
Speaker
Because Mel Gibson's cool to watch on screen and Jared Leto sucks shit.
01:11:49
Speaker
Yeah, dude, but Mel Gibson's never climbed up the side of a building.
01:11:53
Speaker
If Mel Gibson was in 30 Seconds to Mars, I would hate his ass.
01:11:58
Speaker
Have you ever been, when was the last time we went to see the good Dr. Joe, by which I mean Dr. Michael Morbius?
01:12:05
Speaker
I wish we were doing this pod when Morbius came out.
01:12:09
Speaker
I think we would have had a good time.
01:12:11
Speaker
He has the most annoying quality in a person, which is thinking he's the best.
01:12:16
Speaker
He thinks he's so funny.
01:12:18
Speaker
He thinks he's so talented.
01:12:20
Speaker
And he just does this stupid fucking millennial thing of being like a yogi, like a granola type guy.
01:12:26
Speaker
Like he's truly the most annoying version of a millennial.
01:12:31
Speaker
And I want to fucking knock his teeth out every time.
01:12:34
Speaker
One of the most shameful things about me is when I was 13, I loved 30 Seconds to Mars.
01:12:39
Speaker
Every 13 year old loves 30 Seconds to Mars.
01:12:42
Speaker
That's their target audience.
01:12:45
Speaker
Because Jared Leto wants to fuck 13-year-old girls.
01:12:47
Speaker
I think the most annoying thing about Jared Leto is that he's a cult leader and an abuser, but that's just me personally.
01:12:55
Speaker
That's not annoying, though.
01:12:59
Speaker
If you ask me what's the most evil thing.
01:13:00
Speaker
Rape sounds pretty annoying to me.
01:13:02
Speaker
He's also a bad actor.
01:13:03
Speaker
Let's be very clear.
01:13:08
Speaker
Where Jerry Seinfeld's like, the most annoying thing about OJ or whatever, and he said, I think it was the murders.
01:13:16
Speaker
I'm getting on Jared Leto's IMDb.
01:13:18
Speaker
I'm going to see if he's made anything good.
01:13:20
Speaker
He's decent in Fight Club.
01:13:21
Speaker
He's terrible in Dallas Buyers Club.
01:13:23
Speaker
And that movie's the best movie he's ever done is Fight Club.
01:13:26
Speaker
And it's because he gets his shit rocked.
01:13:28
Speaker
What about House of Gucci?
01:13:30
Speaker
I love him in House of Gucci.
01:13:31
Speaker
I will say he's the best part of House of Gucci.
01:13:33
Speaker
He's so funny in House of Gucci.
01:13:35
Speaker
That's a good call.
01:13:36
Speaker
What about him playing a fucking weirdo doing absolutely nothing in Blade Runner 2049?
01:13:40
Speaker
Yeah, he doesn't have to do anything.
01:13:43
Speaker
He has weird context.
01:13:45
Speaker
He's a fucking jump scare in that movie.
01:13:46
Speaker
He's like the only detraction I have from that movie.
01:13:49
Speaker
I'm not disagreeing with you.
01:13:50
Speaker
It was a bit, a little yolk, if you will.
01:13:53
Speaker
What's funny is he's been in movies that I really like.
01:13:55
Speaker
He's been in good movies.
01:13:57
Speaker
Yeah, because he's a pedophile in Hollywood and they have connections.
01:14:01
Speaker
Actually, he's really good in American Psycho.
01:14:02
Speaker
I like Paul Allen.
01:14:03
Speaker
I think I not like him.
01:14:04
Speaker
Again, another movie.
01:14:05
Speaker
I just watched that movie.
01:14:06
Speaker
I just watched that movie for the first time like a couple months ago.
01:14:09
Speaker
And I may have mentioned this on the podcast, but I did not think it was very good.
01:14:11
Speaker
I think I just I missed the boat on it.
01:14:13
Speaker
I think it's the biggest thing.
01:14:15
Speaker
Shut the fuck up, Joe.
01:14:17
Speaker
As someone who's had to suffer through the book because it was grossed out and made me want to throw the fuck up.
01:14:23
Speaker
Joe, you're digging yourself further by admitting you've read a Brett Easton Ellis book.
01:14:28
Speaker
You're just continuing to dig.
01:14:30
Speaker
Okay, well, good, because I did not like that book.
01:14:32
Speaker
Yeah, I think he married a 17-year-old or something when he was in his 40s.
01:14:37
Speaker
Yeah, he's definitely he's allegedly allegedly.
01:14:40
Speaker
Also, when all the stuff came out about about Kevin Spacey and the young man that he had begun a relationship with is that same young man was like, yeah, also Brett Easton Ellis approached me at parties.
01:14:51
Speaker
Hey, so this is my this is one of the worst things about me.
01:14:55
Speaker
The Kevin Spacey thing.
01:14:57
Speaker
I'm not going to defend Kevin Spacey.
01:14:59
Speaker
I'm not going to defend Kevin Spacey.
01:15:02
Speaker
Don't worry, folks.
01:15:04
Speaker
That clip will be on the Instagram.
01:15:08
Speaker
When the whole thing happened, like when he sexually assaulted that kid was during the Normandy scene of fucking saving private Ryan.
01:15:20
Speaker
The least sexy time to do anything sexual.
01:15:25
Speaker
I just cannot believe that he saw all that murder and I was like, I am turned on and I'm about to sexually assault this child.
01:15:33
Speaker
That is pretty wild.
01:15:34
Speaker
Thank you for saying that and nothing else.
01:15:38
Speaker
No, Kevin's basically fucking... He's a great actor, terrible person.
01:15:43
Speaker
I want him to die.
01:15:45
Speaker
He's a piece of shit.
01:15:46
Speaker
I won't defend him.
01:15:47
Speaker
If Mel Gibson ever sexually assaults a child, I'll get off the Gibson train.
01:15:51
Speaker
You'll get off the train.
01:15:55
Speaker
Sexually assaulting a child.
01:15:57
Speaker
Yeah, that's genuinely how I feel.
01:15:59
Speaker
I would rather you be racist than a child molester.
01:16:02
Speaker
I'm making fun of you, but it's also like, frankly.
01:16:06
Speaker
I think racist child molester, though.
01:16:08
Speaker
Everyone is like, whoa.
01:16:09
Speaker
I think everyone's kind of like, yeah.
01:16:11
Speaker
We're splitting hairs a little bit.
01:16:12
Speaker
We got Hitler, and then racist child molester, and then Mel Gibson.
01:16:17
Speaker
I think the standard is, and I've had a few beers, so forgive me, but the standard is if you abuse children and you get put in prison, you get your shit rocked.
01:16:25
Speaker
Yeah, it's the best thing about the American prison system is that everybody in there collectively decided that if a child blaster's in there, we'll kill his ass.
01:16:38
Speaker
The Imagine video, but it's just guys stabbing rapists.
01:16:42
Speaker
Imagine all the people stabbing Kevin Spacey's dick.
01:16:47
Speaker
He'll never get... Anyways, the Akira Kurosawa high and low every week.
Media Consumption and Social Media Humor
01:16:53
Speaker
The hosts of Paddington Gone Wild talk about the best and worst media that they consumed that week.
01:16:59
Speaker
So, you know, and the thing is, and I think we should go ahead and remind people that the best and worst media does not just include movies.
01:17:06
Speaker
I mean, it's kind of a funny thing that happens to us often is that we end up
01:17:10
Speaker
It's rare that we want to watch bad movies.
01:17:12
Speaker
We watch a shit ton of good movies.
01:17:13
Speaker
So it's why often the media that we talk about.
01:17:15
Speaker
Yeah, if I have to watch a movie I don't like, it's because of the stupid fucking podcast where you make me watch Beetlejuice.
01:17:21
Speaker
You liked it okay.
01:17:23
Speaker
And you watch your fucking cam rip, you cuck.
01:17:30
Speaker
I allegedly watched it on a camera.
01:17:33
Speaker
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
01:17:34
Speaker
What if Jerry Seinfeld played Beetlejuice?
01:17:39
Speaker
If Mel Gibson played Beetlejuice, now we're talking.
01:17:41
Speaker
No, it wouldn't have been good.
01:17:44
Speaker
He can't not take himself that seriously.
01:17:45
Speaker
He doesn't have the comedy chops.
01:17:48
Speaker
I think I'm going to go ahead and I will start, actually.
01:17:55
Speaker
Because I'm all about it.
01:17:59
Speaker
You're hard when we start.
01:18:01
Speaker
I'm a good partner.
01:18:01
Speaker
And then you finish.
01:18:03
Speaker
I'm a good partner.
01:18:04
Speaker
Can you let us finish first?
01:18:07
Speaker
I appreciate that.
01:18:08
Speaker
You win every round of soggy biscuit on this podcast.
01:18:18
Speaker
Many people are jerking off.
01:18:20
Speaker
Many people are saying that I would win every round of soggy biscuit.
01:18:22
Speaker
Many people are jerking their dicks.
01:18:26
Speaker
Okay, my low is, is that right before we started recording this podcast, I saw a tweet of which someone said that they could eat 30 hard boiled eggs that had been marinated in Cajun seasoning.
01:18:37
Speaker
And then somebody quote tweeted it, which was very funny.
01:18:39
Speaker
And they said that their fart could break the sound barrier.
01:18:44
Speaker
But if you're eating that many hard-boiled eggs, even as somebody who eats a lot of eggs, that's foul, and you belong to prison.
01:18:51
Speaker
You're not Paul Newman.
01:18:53
Speaker
My boy can eat 50 eggs.
01:18:56
Speaker
And then the high is last night.
01:18:59
Speaker
I went to a little film with my friends Hayden and Spencer.
01:19:03
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It's directed by Carolee Farjat.
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It's called The Substance.
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Starring Demi Moore, Margaret Qualley.
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With a very strange Dennis Quaid performance in it.
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It's a great body horror flick.
01:19:29
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It is perhaps my favorite film released in the year 2024.
Genre Highlights: Body Horror and The Penguin Pilot
01:19:35
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Love putting down that token.
01:19:39
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Now, I say perhaps because I said the same thing about Furiosa, and then as time went on, I started thinking more about Challengers again and Challengers...
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kept that number one spot.
01:19:51
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Assume that position, yeah.
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So I don't want to like, when we get to the end of the year, we'll do some top fives and we'll talk about it.
01:19:56
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But the substance to me is, and I've talked about this on this pod and we'll talk about it more next month.
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We'll go ahead and spoil that October is all horror.
01:20:05
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We're going to do four episodes.
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We're going to bring some guests on.
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We're going to have a lot of fun.
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It's going to be scary.
01:20:11
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But body horror might be my favorite subgenre of horror.
01:20:18
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I'm not going to spoil any of it.
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I love body horror.
01:20:21
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I was going to say a specific thing that I like in body horror, but I'm not going to say that.
01:20:26
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It just... And I've read a lot of criticisms, and I think a lot of those criticisms are apt if you're looking to dislike something about the movie.
01:20:35
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But if you're a sick freak like me and you want to like giggle, like audibly, like laughing, cackling in the theater to the point that I was worried it would bother people around us because I was so overjoyed and excited by it.
01:20:51
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Also, the funny thing is that the dude and his girlfriend walked out about an hour into the film, which is very funny because it is a film.
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directed by a woman starring women and made with women in mind.
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And it's very funny that she was like, we got to get the fuck out of here.
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I'm watching this.
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And then two dudes walked out with 15 minutes left in the movie.
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And it was, Oh, that's crazy.
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The end of the flick.
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Like it was like, what the fuck?
01:21:13
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You guys couldn't stick around the substance.
01:21:16
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I could not recommend it more highly.
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If you like excited, real, I'm going to see it tomorrow.
01:21:24
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I would like to hear from a man I've made fun of a lot on this podcast, Joe Hayes.
01:21:35
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I think my low... I haven't seen a lot of... I haven't seen a lot of things that are bad.
01:21:45
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I hesitate to say that Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice is my low because I kind of liked it.
01:21:50
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I thought it was fine.
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But again, I watched a lot of better shit.
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So I guess it's my low.
01:21:56
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Yeah, I've had lows I didn't dislike.
01:22:00
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Yeah, I think I'll just say it's my low.
01:22:03
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I could think back to some of the TV that I watched or some like that stuff that's come across my feed, but I don't want to think that hard.
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My high, my honorable mention high is the Penguin pilot.
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It was really good.
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And Colin Farrell is fucking awesome in it.
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He's going for it.
01:22:18
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He does a thing where he's kind of doing De Niro.
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And he's kind of doing Tony Soprano.
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He's kind of doing Gandolfini.
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But he's also doing enough other shit to where it doesn't feel like he's ganking those two roles.
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You know what I mean?
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He does a lot of cool facial acting with his fucked up makeup face.
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And his penguin dick.
01:22:43
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Yeah, he does a lot of fucking with his penguin dick.
01:22:45
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He drives a fucking purple Rolls Royce or something.
01:22:48
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Yeah, it's a Maserati.
01:22:52
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And, uh, uh, is it, is it Christina Maloney?
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I put some respect on that fucking name.
01:23:00
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She's amazing in almost, I think in everything she's ever been in, uh, but she's so good in this.
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I've never like, she's so scary in this.
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Have you great, great performance.
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Have you cranked it to her yet?
01:23:13
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I'm a married man.
01:23:16
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That means you can't crank.
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But my actual high, and I'm not going to say Ocean's Eleven.
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I watched that today.
01:23:27
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That's a cheater high.
01:23:28
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Everyone knows that one's going to be your high if you watch it.
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My actual high is Kramer vs. Kramer.
Emotional Depth in Cinema: Kramer vs. Kramer and Secretary
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Speaking of shitty people, Dustin Hoffman is in that movie.
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He was apparently mistreated the fuck out of Meryl Streep, which should get you jailed and killed.
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But that movie is so astoundingly good.
01:23:50
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I usually am a guy that's like, I want to watch something big and kind of crazy.
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I want gonzo shit.
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October is going to be a great month for me because I just get to watch a bunch of crazy shit.
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But Kramer vs. Kramer is so subdued.
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The performances are just out of this world.
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The kid actor nominated for an Oscar deserved it.
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Should have won if he didn't.
01:24:13
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I don't think he did, but Streep and Hoffman both won.
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Yeah, I mean, the script is perfect.
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There's a moment where, like...
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Meryl Streep is getting questioned on the stand whether or not she failed at her marriage.
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And she's like tearing up and she looks at Dustin Hoffman who looks at her and shakes his head.
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No, like you didn't fail.
01:24:39
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And I was like, that's so heartbreaking to have fallen out of love with each other and still respect each other enough to, uh,
01:24:46
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be able in that moment to recognize how awful the court system is.
01:24:50
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It's, it's a movie about the court system that both made me angry and also made me happy that there's humanity in it still.
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Cause most of the time I watch a court movie and I'm just fucking blood boiling.
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Cause I hate how the court works.
01:25:04
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But yeah, no, it's just like a, it was so affecting.
01:25:08
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It's a perfect, I think it's a perfect movie.
01:25:11
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Who do you want to hear from Joseph?
01:25:14
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Let me hear from Austin.
01:25:17
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My low was I watched the movie Secretary starring Maggie Gyllenhaal.
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I love that movie.
01:25:27
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I couldn't find my way into it.
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I just I couldn't figure it out.
01:25:30
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I don't know what it was.
01:25:31
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Maybe way into Maggie Gyllenhaal.
01:25:32
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Is that why you couldn't?
01:25:33
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I mean, every single day of my life.
01:25:36
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It just, for whatever reason, I, I liked things about it.
01:25:40
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I thought the performances were good.
01:25:42
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It just tonally, it just didn't quite work for me.
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Maybe, maybe I wanted something more conventional, but,
01:25:47
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And it is a little out there.
01:25:49
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It might hit you on the rewatch because I didn't like it until the second time I tried it.
01:25:52
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The first time I tried it, I was thrown off by the tone as well because it's weirdly funny.
01:25:57
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It's weirdly funny and the music is kind of jaunty.
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And it's a weird vibe for the subject matter.
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But there were things about it that I liked.
01:26:04
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There were things about the conceit that I liked.
01:26:06
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But again, like we were saying, it's hard to pick a low sometimes just because we seek out good stuff.
01:26:11
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It's also a really tame example of James Spader being in a horny movie.
01:26:15
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For sure, which I like the more extreme examples of that.
01:26:18
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And so it's for that, it may be maybe that kind of podcast.
01:26:23
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It's honestly one of the tamest BDSM movies.
01:26:27
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And Fifty Shades of Grey exists.
01:26:30
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It's very tame for what it is.
01:26:33
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I thought it was like fine.
01:26:35
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I just really couldn't find my way to it.
01:26:37
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My high I have a lot of competition for, but I think โ let me double check.
01:26:42
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Rewatching Popstar was huge.
01:26:44
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Just one of the funniest movies of the century.
01:26:46
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It's so fucking funny.
01:26:49
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You could โ what does he say?
01:26:53
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Oh, God, you could light a tanning bed on that baked potato forehead when he's doing the Mona Lisa song.
01:27:00
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Fucking incredible.
01:27:01
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The let's call it mixed reviews scene is fucking incredible when he pulls up the Onion article.
01:27:09
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But my real high is The Martian, which I had not seen.
Sci-Fi and Animation Praise: The Martian and Paprika
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I missed it when it came out.
01:27:16
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Yes, I read the book.
01:27:19
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Yeah, when I was when I was in a big sci fi phase, I liked the book a lot, but I thought the movie was wonderful.
01:27:24
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I was like, this is so engaging.
01:27:26
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I don't quite understand why it's two hours and 20 minutes, but doesn't really feel like it.
01:27:31
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It's a really well.
01:27:33
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And it's a great it does a great job of kind of bouncing between locations and introducing new characters to keep you engaged.
01:27:39
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Like the Donald Glover character comes in, you know, an hour and a half in or something.
01:27:46
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I was very moved by it.
01:27:48
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I found it very engaging and great performances, really good script.
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One of my favorite Damon roles.
01:27:56
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He's amazing in it.
01:27:57
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It's kind of all time for him.
01:27:58
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When you get to the end and he's really thin and everything, it's very distressing.
01:28:03
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He does a really good job of keeping you involved with a thing like that that could fall by the wayside if you weren't too careful.
01:28:11
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I'm very excited for Project Hail Mary because I think that's a better book.
01:28:15
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I haven't read that one, but I'm excited for it.
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Gosling is currently attached.
01:28:21
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I have fallen out of love with Lord Miller.
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but that's just me.
01:28:28
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I'm optimistic at this point.
01:28:31
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Zach high and low.
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So my low is very easy.
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My highs not because I watched a lot of fun shit this week, but my low is the unbearable weight of massive talent.
01:28:42
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It's kind of a bummer.
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But unfortunate and unfortunate low.
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Cause you want to love it.
01:28:47
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And there was moments in the movie where it was like, Oh, we're coming back.
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We're coming back.
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And so, yeah, I think there's a movie, like the premise is awesome.
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And I texted this last night, like the premise is cool.
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There's awesome people in it.
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And there's just something so weird about the script that just doesn't connect all the way.
01:29:08
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Honor roll mentioned to like Brawl and Cell Block 99.
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Terrific film rules.
01:29:15
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But the best movie I watched this week, I just watched this afternoon.
01:29:19
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I rewatched Paprika.
01:29:21
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It's the Toshikon.
01:29:24
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I don't like it quite as much as Perfect Blue, but it is.
01:29:27
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I'm kind of with you there.
01:29:31
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I was just talking to our buddy Ryan McNamara about Satoshi Cone and his relevance because I knew Ryan would be down for that conversation and Satoshi Cone is just the fucking best.
01:29:39
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Have I ever sent you guys the Cone short film Ohio?
01:29:44
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Not the state, Ohio as in like good morning in Japanese.
01:29:48
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I think I might have sent it to you, Zach, or you haven't seen it naturally.
01:29:52
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But it is like a minute and 15 seconds long, maybe.
01:29:57
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And it's a reminder of like... It's in that every frame of picture.
01:30:01
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It's in that every frame of painting video.
01:30:04
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It's a reminder of like there are some people on this earth who were like
01:30:09
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so talented and so gifted and that like i think we often say this when we lose somebody who's a great talent but it's a reminder of like there are some people who are so talented that like truly we are worse off that they don't exist yeah that like he was he was a genius we did we didn't get to have a miyazaki like career of him making films into his movies yeah is criminal
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I forgot to say this.
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This is going from a very real serious moment to not at all.
01:30:39
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Before we started high and low, what I couldn't get out of my head was turning Abbott and Costello's who's on first into who came first.
01:30:47
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No, who came second.
01:30:53
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But it's just Abbott and Costello talking about who came.
01:30:57
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That's really good.
01:30:58
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How has that not been on SNL?
01:31:00
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All I know is that I came listening to this podcast.
01:31:03
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01:31:11
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Next week, who the fuck knows what we're going to talk about?
01:31:13
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It'll be our last episode.
01:31:15
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Probably your fucking mom, bitch.
01:31:17
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It'll be our last episode before October.
01:31:20
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I think I'd like to potentially share some of our watch lists on Instagram.
01:31:26
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That's a fun episode.
01:31:27
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I think that's a great thing we should do.
01:31:29
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And we'll share some watch lists and some things that we're leading up to for October, and we'll get all of those materials out and some homework available.
01:31:36
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Yeah, we'll probably watch a movie too, but who knows what it'll be.
01:31:40
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We'll figure it out.
01:31:41
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We'll turn this into an interactive podcast.
01:31:46
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I'll interact with you, Mom.