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Mysteries of this Realm, Reincarnation, Nefarious Agendas w/ Ryder Lee
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Returning guest Ryder Lee and I have a wide ranging discussion - if you enjoyed this you really need to check out his podcast for much deeper exploration on these topics and more.
About Ryder's podcast, Raised by Giants:
Raised By Giants presented and produced by Ryder Lee, provides a platform from which philosophers, researchers, spiritual teachers, authors, contactees, experiencers, channelers and UFO researchers can come together and communicate their studies, observations, thoughts, Ideas, reflections and research. Infusing them into common everyday knowledge with their understanding of life and the universe. Ryder Lee of Raised By Giants will be diving deep into these topics, interviewing and hosting this ever-growing number of people, searching for a deeper understanding and truth.
Raised by Giants podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/raised-by-giants/id1573364573
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@RaisedByGiants
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My other podcast, Autism and Children's Health: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/autism-and-childrens-health-lab-testing-diet/id1512380225
Website: https://christianyordanov.com/
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Transcript
Introduction and Dark Topics Comfort
00:00:02
Speaker
Welcome back to the Connecting Minds podcast. Christian Jourdanoff here. Thanks for tuning in. Today we have Ryder Lee again from the Raised By Giants podcast writer. Thanks for coming back for a second one, bro, so soon. Thanks so much for having me on, brother. I really enjoyed the last one, so I am very happy to be here. Thank you for having me.
00:00:19
Speaker
Yeah, man, always welcome. And what's interesting is I was listening back to that one and we do talk about some pretty dark stuff. So I like the fact that we can enjoy our company and discussion, even though we're talking about pretty serious shit. And I really think we're going to be talking more serious shit tonight, which is, you know, that's,
00:00:44
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That's the way we do things.
Dinosaurs and Historical Rewriting
00:00:50
Speaker
But I want to start with a fun question for you, Ryder. What, bro, is your favorite dinosaur?
00:01:03
Speaker
Velociraptor. Velociraptor. Mine is the Phacosaurus Rex. Love that one. The Phacosaurus Rex. Have you been watching the Mandalorian?
00:01:17
Speaker
I have not actually well there's this creature that's called the mythosaur okay on the Mandalorian just like this weird like creature and apparently it can like fly and like do all this stuff and you can like ride it and all that but what is the Mandalorian
00:01:35
Speaker
It's a it's an adaptation of a Star Wars TV show. It's on Disney Plus. Oh, okay. Okay. So it's like just like an offshoot of Star Wars kind of like Boba Fett. You know who Boba Fett is? I don't I'm not terrible with TV shows and movies.
00:01:51
Speaker
Okay, well, it's just like a bounty hunter. It's like this group of bounty hunters that are running around the galaxy. Interesting. I guess the reason I ask is as a fun segue to maybe let's get your take on history and what do you reckon like even
00:02:14
Speaker
even the last, let's say the 20th century, right? All this sort of stuff that happened, you know, let's say World War I, we had that pandemic around that time. And, you know, we had the World War II and those events that shaped that. And in the last century, we also had a lot of international or supranational organizations that were created. You know, we had the League of Nations, we had, you know, eventually the United Nations, you know, NATO, all these sort of
00:02:44
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a clear attempt at a world government and, you know, what do you reckon sort of, how much of even the last century's history do you think is now, has been sort of erased and rewritten and further back, what do you reckon is kind of, what percentages are we dealing with in terms of fake to true to life accounts?
Perspective in History and Rising Cults
00:03:13
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Well, really, I think that anything that's written down isn't necessarily truth. You're just getting one person or one group's perspective of events.
00:03:27
Speaker
It's exactly like the Bible and all these religious texts. I think a majority of them are allegorical, metaphorical, and astrological. It's not meant to be taken literally. See, this is the problem that people
00:03:47
Speaker
have. They think that if something is written down, then that makes it like facts. That makes it truth. When it's really just the perspective of the person that's writing it. I'm sure there was hundreds of other perspectives of events that happened during that time, but we only have one.
00:04:08
Speaker
and we're led to believe that that is the factual information of exactly what happened and i'm not saying that some of it isn't factual i'm sure that it is but it's not the full truth it's impossible to get the full truth into anything that's written down because there's so many nuances with everything and it's interesting as you talk about history with
00:04:30
Speaker
Uh, you know, cause I've been looking into a lot of these cults and a lot of these, uh, like, you know, Waco, uh, like, uh, Jim Jones, Jonestown, because there seems to be like this really big rise around the sixties into the seventies of like cults and like cult leaders and people thinking that they're the Messiah and that they're Jesus reincarnated.
00:04:59
Speaker
and they have these groups of followers, then it kind of seems like if that was just kind of...
00:05:06
Speaker
Stamped out. They just kind of did away with that. You don't really hear about that stuff anymore And you don't hear about serial killers anymore either you know, there was like this huge boom of serial killers from the 60s all the way up into the early 90s just like there was this huge boom of cult leaders and cults and You know you have the heavens gate cult, you know, and I think it came and went these booms and
00:05:36
Speaker
That's a very interesting question, and I don't really know. I just think that it's interesting how it was just this little segment of history that had these serial killers. Now, I think that a lot of
00:05:55
Speaker
The serial killers were just experiments. There were MKUltra mind control experiments. I mean, there's proof that
00:06:09
Speaker
uh what's his name Charles Manson was a CIA LSD experiment because he was using LSD to control the people in his little group of his little cult in California you know it's just really interesting that you see these serial killers just come up like out of nowhere like something
00:06:34
Speaker
Snapped within them and then all of a sudden you just see a bunch of people running around killing people You know that we had never really seen before coming from
00:06:45
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one individual and then all of the cults and all that too, you know, you see with David crush, you know, at Waco, you know, thinking that he's like this, uh, you know, reincarnated Jesus, that he's the Messiah, that he's going to bring about the book of revelations that, you know, he's preparing for Armageddon. Jim Jones thought that exact same thing.
00:07:14
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Yeah. You know, in Jonestown in the late seventies, I believe, you know, he was seeing almost the exact same thing verbatim that the government was after him, that the CIA was watching them and that they needed to protect themselves and like arm themselves. Now, I think David Koresh's cult was not so much a cult. I think that he just kind of, you know, let
00:07:43
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his followers kind of do what they wanted. Like they could come and go and leave as they pleased to do. But with Jim Jones, like he wouldn't let people leave. He had like armed security around Jonestown, like 24 seven. If he tried to leave, you'd be like shot. Well,
00:08:01
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You know, so it's, I don't know, it's just really interesting. I think it's a new topic that I'm really going to start diving into on these little calls.
Psychedelics, Pharmaceuticals, and Water Contamination
00:08:11
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I was actually going to ask you what your current interests are and what topics have you not yet
00:08:22
Speaker
Begun research on so that's that's interesting that you kind of answer that question for us any other topics Actually before you answer that I wanted to get your take. What do you think? What's your take on LSD? Is it good or bad given the way they were demonizing it then in you know after the 60s and into the 70s whatever they were demonizing it pretty hard I'm tending to think it can open up the mind to good things. What do you think I?
00:08:51
Speaker
Uh, I personally wouldn't do it just because if you're wide open, because I think that that's what LSD and a lot of these hallucinogenics actually do. It just opens up your consciousness like wide open, you know, and you can get infiltration of thoughts, infiltration of ideas that aren't necessarily right, real. It can alter your belief systems in a negative way.
00:09:20
Speaker
So if you don't have the protection and the know the right way to do it, then you're open to being influenced by negative stuff. So I think that a lot of the LSD and the hallucinogenic mushrooms, DMT and a lot of that has been
00:09:43
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has all been hijacked. I don't think that there's any pure forms of it really anywhere. Like maybe DMT and ayahuasca, there can be pure forms of that because that's made by indigenous
00:09:58
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tribes and stuff, and they do it all. There's a process to making it. But as far as like LSD and mushrooms and stuff off of the street, not for me, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't recommend it either. Is there any entheogens that would tickle your fancy?
00:10:18
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Not really. I stay away from all drugs. I don't do any drugs at all, period. No pharmaceuticals, none of that, because I think that that has been a big part of the mind control and brainwashing of the population. I think I mentioned it to you on the show before that
00:10:39
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anti-psychotics, antidepressants, Adderall, Ritalin, amphetamines all came out of the MKUltra programs. And that's the majority of the medications that people are on today.
00:10:52
Speaker
You know, especially during 2020, people just loaded up on antidepressants and anti-anxiety and all that stuff, you know? So if it came out of the official brainwashing mind control experimentation ran by the CIA, then why would I ever take it? I've never taken one anti-psychotic, one anti-depression medication ever in my life. Always, I was like, no, I want to be responsible for the way that I feel.
00:11:22
Speaker
I don't want any medication telling me how to feel or change my brain chemistry because that's what it's doing now. I'm not saying that nobody should take any of it. I mean, if I'm not a doctor, if you feel like you need it, then take it. But for me personally,
00:11:41
Speaker
No, I'm not taking any of that stuff. The only thing that I take is melatonin. I take melatonin to go to sleep. Yeah. Same here. Not every day, but it's really good. Yeah, dude, it's pretty disgusting. My wife was having severe sleep problems for a while there.
00:12:04
Speaker
We literally tried everything, dude, and I know what to try. I'm completely geeked out on supplements and all this health optimization stuff, so we were even one of our neighbors. She gave us some sleeping pills, and even the sleeping pills wouldn't work.
00:12:24
Speaker
So that's how bad it was, but it wasn't like it was cause more about like having a baby and like waking up at night, that nervous system repatterning into sympathetic overdrive. So it's a, it was a nervous system type thing that she retrained herself in. However,
00:12:41
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We went to the doctor briefly, some doctor here, and she was in there 30 minutes. She went in to ask her like a different type of sleeping pill to try, just to try, because we're super desperate. She came out with a prescription for a, listen to this, an anti-psychotic and a SSRI, antidepressant.
00:13:06
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two of the same fucking thing to be started immediately that same day. Can you believe in 30 minutes dude? That's the problem. And that's the issue of people that the doctors don't want to actually treat you. They just want to put you on a ton of medications. Like you go to the doctor for exactly like what you're saying. You go to the doctor for sleep problems.
00:13:33
Speaker
They put you on anti-psychotic medication or they put you on anti-depressive medication. Like, what is that? That's not a symptom of my issues here. The issue is sleep. And I've always had a problem with sleep. That's always been my thing because my brain just runs 24-7 constantly. I'm thinking of new thoughts, new ideas, and it seems like a lot of things come to me at night, so I really don't go to sleep until late anyway.
00:13:57
Speaker
But to put people on medications that do nothing for actual sleep is an agenda. They're trying to drug the population, and that's a huge, huge problem. I think I also mentioned before that
00:14:16
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I just looked up the statistics for the United States. I don't know about other countries, but the statistics for the United States is from 2014 to 2016, almost half the population was on some sort of pharmaceutical medication.
00:14:33
Speaker
And what, you know, seven years later, like, it's going to be even more guaranteed that that's increased. That's it. That's at least that 70% now, the population and then also looked up that was for the entire population, even including kids. Oh, yeah. And then I looked up the adult statistics and it was 68%.
00:14:55
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of adults in the United States is on some sort of medical medication to another problem that arises with that too is that you can't get away from me. You can't because the people that are on those pharmaceutical medications, they go to the toilet and they pee.
00:15:13
Speaker
That water is recycled. All the water that we use, any tap water in our toilet, in our shower that we wash our clothes with, that we drink out of the faucet, out of the sink is all recycled water. It's not new water.
00:15:29
Speaker
So the water that you flush down the toilet, the water that you use in the sink is all recycled back through. And it's impossible to take out a majority of those medications. You just can't. There's no way to take out those kinds of medications. So when you're drinking tap water, you're inevitably drinking birth control. You're inevitably drinking antidepressants, antipsychotics, blood pressure medications.
00:15:58
Speaker
You know, and not only that, but with the fluoride in the water as well. And then you have all the cancer causing agents too. I mean, you can get online. I know that there, I don't know about other countries, but in the United States, you can get online and you can look up all the chemicals and the stuff that's in your local tap water. And it's astounding. Yeah. Like every single one of them has some kind of cancer causing agent in them, no matter where you are. Yep.
00:16:26
Speaker
It's the same, bro. It's the same. It's like I was living in Ireland 14 years and the water there is fluoridated some.
00:16:38
Speaker
some small pockets of people with, you know, doing awareness sort of campaigns and trying to raise awareness. But the water was free as well in Ireland because it really drained so much. But you know what I mean? Like if it's free and it's from the government. Okay. I think the last three years taught us what free and from the government means, you know.
00:17:01
Speaker
Yeah, that's I'm such a big advocate for Distilling your own water or having a reverse osmosis system, you know, do you do any of that yourself? What's your kind of? What do you do? Well, I haven't been doing it recently because I just Moved around six months ago and a lot of my stuff is still in my old apartment, but I used to have this It was called cleared
00:17:31
Speaker
that it was like a little container at the top you would pour your water in and then it would filter down through it and it took out 99.9 percent of the chemicals and the stuff that were in it and that's what I would use and this is another thing too it's like you think just because you're you know filtering your tap water or you're filtering your bottled water or all that that you're not
00:17:57
Speaker
Getting any of the chemicals or any of the nonsense and I mean you're still showering Yeah in the water that's still going on into your skin You're still washing your clothes and the contaminated water still going on to your clothes. It's still getting into your skin So it's like, you know, what are you supposed to do? Like it doesn't really matter if you're filtering
00:18:18
Speaker
your water or not, you're still getting it just in a different way. Maybe not as much, which I do recommend people to try and filter their water. It's not very expensive. I think I got those water jug filtering containers for like $200 USD, and I had two of them
00:18:39
Speaker
And they worked pretty good. But yeah, it's like whenever you take care of one thing, there's all these other avenues that it's an absolute minefield, bro. But, um, you know, like for my book, I was doing some research related to fluoride and it's, it's definitely associated with, um, sort of cognitive issues, IQ and, you know, cognitive development in kids. But we, one of the,
Societal Manipulations and Spirituality
00:19:07
Speaker
Famous I suppose deleterious effects of it is that it calcifies the pineal gland quote-unquote now the pineal gland I'm not an expert by any stretch on it but from what I understand it's it's shares anatomical features with the eyes so it's inside our head.
00:19:27
Speaker
But it has components that are in the eyes right so. What would you reckon a lot of this toxic onslaught is and you know these heavy metals and you know bio accumulating sort of toxins do you think they're designed to clog up.
00:19:44
Speaker
our physiological or physical sort of tissues that could in a way be like transmitters or receivers for like other energies that we basically cannot perceive, you know, like more spiritual related things. Yes, I do believe that a lot of it is to
00:20:08
Speaker
dampen down our spirituality and our spiritual beliefs. And another thing that fluoride does is it makes the physical body develop faster.
00:20:25
Speaker
So you have a rapid kind of aging process. And this is how you get girls that are 10 to 14 years old that look like they're over 18 years old. Like they look like they're like fully developed.
00:20:43
Speaker
So fluoride does that, and then there's also chemicals that they're putting in the food that does that, that speeds up the aging process. And a lot of people don't realize that, they don't know that, but that's a proven study that fluoride speeds up the aging process and makes people develop faster than they normally were, and there's proof in that.
00:21:06
Speaker
You go back to the late 90s and you look at freaking sixth graders. They look like sixth graders. Yeah, man. But now you look at a group of sixth graders. They look like they're freaking almost seniors in high school.
00:21:26
Speaker
It's crazy. It's wild. But yeah, I do think that they are doing a lot of this to stun the spiritual growth. Because if you cut people off from their spiritual growth, then that also cuts off common sense. That also cuts off critical thinking. That also cuts off logic.
00:21:48
Speaker
You know, and if you don't have that connection, you don't have that spiritual connection, then you're missing a lot of important things throughout your life, you know, and you're just going to be a follower. You're just going to, whatever anybody says, especially an authority figure says, you're going to believe them. You know, even if it's real or if it's not real, you know, this is a, this is a huge issue and also gets back to
00:22:18
Speaker
what we were talking about when we first started is the difference between belief, facts, and truth. There's huge gaps in between here. And I think that the population has been overruled by belief.
00:22:40
Speaker
and not truth or facts because truth requires proof and evidence of what you're saying. Belief doesn't. You can believe whatever you want, but that doesn't make it real.
00:23:00
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You can believe that there's 250 alien races out there and they're out there controlling humanity and they're doing well. That's a belief. There's absolutely no proof for that. There's zero evidence, zero proof that even a physical extraterrestrial species even exists. So you're running off of belief here.
00:23:28
Speaker
And belief can't overrule truth. Belief can't overrule facts. But that's what our reality has really been based in, is belief. That's how all of it works. Whenever you read something
00:23:49
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Online whenever you read an article whenever you read a newspaper whenever you're watching the news whenever you're reading a an old document or whatever There's really no facts. There's really no Truth in any of that right you're taking it at face value and you're believing what they're presenting as fact So your belief is overruling Truth
00:24:20
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I don't know if I'm explaining that properly. Totally, man. It was like, you know, when the dollar bill in the States in God we trust, I mean, eventually are they going to change that to in science we trust because we literally replaced religion with science. But it always seems like it seems like the manipulators must
00:24:44
Speaker
create something to something that must you must believe in, you know, the the population, because it's, it's just a tool for manipulation and social engineering. It's a bunch of stories is what it is. It's all just a bunch of stories. And when people
00:25:10
Speaker
believe in those stories, it makes it real to them. And I don't mean to be harping on the ET and the UFO phenomenon here, but I think it's just a prime example, especially for this community, right? Because the whole ET hypothesis has been perpetuated through story and it's gotten people to believe in it.
00:25:38
Speaker
through people telling stories. There is no evidence, there is no proof that any of these things has happened. They're stories. The abductions are stories. Seeing a UFO in the sky not knowing what it is and calling it aliens and extraterrestrials is a story
00:26:04
Speaker
Now, we have this tendency to put labels on things and make up our mind when we have absolutely no idea what's going on. You know, we don't have the evidence or the backing. If I were to see something weird in the sky, I would think to myself, huh, that's strange. I have no idea what it was.
00:26:33
Speaker
And it doesn't really matter to me. Why do I care what it was?
Extraterrestrial Existence and Reality Perception
00:26:38
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I'm not opposed to any thought or opposed to any idea. Actually, what I've been working off of here recently is that I think that it's quite possible
00:26:51
Speaker
And this might be shocking to some people because they might feel like that I'm going backwards in my thoughts and ideas and beliefs, but I think that it's highly probable that
00:27:08
Speaker
we might possibly be the only living physical beings in the entire universe. And I don't say that to make us this apex predator type of being. I don't say that to be like, oh yeah, we're so special that we're the only beings in the entire universe. That's not really what I mean. I think that there is quite possibly that the universe was very populated at one time.
00:27:39
Speaker
you know, but they've died off. They've either killed themselves. I think at one time, it's quite possible that all of the planets in the solar system was inhabited by some sort of physical being. And now we're just all in one location. We're just all here now. You know, and then people will be like, Oh, well,
00:28:10
Speaker
Well, you think that the expansiveness of the universe, that there couldn't be life out there or somewhere doing something. Well, yeah, yeah, it's a possibility, but there's no proof or evidence for that. You know, if there is, then why haven't we seen any of them? Why is it that we only see them in a dream state, in an astral state under the direction of some sort of hallucinogenic drug? Hmm.
00:28:39
Speaker
You know, why haven't we seen any of these beings physically? Why haven't they came and walked up to us and shaken our hand? You know, and then people would use the excuse, Oh, well, they got a prime directive. They, they can't come down here and interfere. Well, that you're speaking outside two sides of your mouth there. If they're the ones that's controlling things and manipulating things, these extra terrestrials,
00:29:08
Speaker
then why can't they come? If you're seeing that there's a prime directive that they can't interfere, well, it seems like they're freaking interfering quite a lot according to your hypothesis.
00:29:21
Speaker
You know, so I think that it's a, that's just a theory and that's just a hypothesis, right? It's just a, you know, a hyperbole. But I think that it's quite possible that we, and it makes sense that we would be the only physical beings in the universe
00:29:45
Speaker
because of the possession, because of these walk-ins, these spiritual beings that want to come here. Why would they want to come here so much? What would be the reason that they would want to be here so bad? Well, in my thought process, the reason that they would want to be here so bad, because this is the only place to live out of 3D physical existence.
00:30:14
Speaker
So, I don't know. That's just what I'm working on right now. And I'm sure that it'll evolve. It'll evolve into something else next week. And I'll get another thought and then it'll turn into something else in a couple of days. But that's just what I'm working with right now. And, you know, they'll be like, Oh, well, you think that God was so limited that He only created us as we are here now.
00:30:42
Speaker
And excuse me, I'd be like, no, I don't. Because I don't think that we were the same, we're the same human beings now. That we've been on the planet since the existence of humans here. I think there's been different iterations of humans. Yeah. And that's not limiting to God.
00:31:09
Speaker
because he's created, if you believe in God, then he has created every iteration of human that's existed here since the beginning of time. It's deep, bro.
00:31:28
Speaker
You know, I also sometimes wonder that, you know, could it be that every time you reincarnate, not just you reincarnate in a different world, not in terms of like a different age, let's say, you know, one time it was 500 years ago or a thousand years ago.
00:31:48
Speaker
And you don't just incarnate in the same linear timeline as this particular world that this particular history tracks back. But you incarnate perhaps, and it's an entirely different, maybe not the laws of physics, or maybe even the laws of physics.
00:32:12
Speaker
uh maybe it's a different it's like if if you you're an author and you're like uh James Connolly or whatever you got 50 different books and each book is an entire different plot different characters and so on so maybe and there's other sort of in kind of
00:32:35
Speaker
When they talk about reincarnation to talk about the concept of the over soul so could it be that. You were a smaller part like a cell is of a of a body or an organ or tissue could we each one of us be a cell in a bigger organism.
00:32:53
Speaker
that perhaps this organism, the over soul, or this being, this over soul, now it may be living multiple lives in this reality, or it could be living multiple lives in different realities, or different times.
00:33:10
Speaker
All simultaneously, it's almost like if you have a central processing unit and it's getting information from different components. And I don't know, have you thought about it that way? What's your take on reincarnation?
00:33:29
Speaker
Yeah, I have thought about that, and I find that concept in theory very interesting. And I've thought about that before. Well, what if the reincarnation process doesn't immediately bring us back to this timeline that we're currently on, right? If I were to die in, let's say, 50 years, I wouldn't be born here again on the 51th year.
00:33:58
Speaker
51st year sorry when I say 51th, yeah, that's not even 11 to 12 11 to 12 But uh, I think that's a very interesting concept because you know that could possibly be you could die be reincarnated 4000 years before You were here at this time or 4000 years in the future
00:34:27
Speaker
Because we don't know how time works in this spiritual realm, this astral realm, or how time works when we die. A minute could be five years here. So if you're on the other side for five minutes, that means that 20 years passes here. 25 years.
00:34:57
Speaker
I think that that's really interesting way
Parallel Realities and Consciousness
00:35:00
Speaker
to look at it. And then also looking at, you know, different timelines and parallel timelines and alternate realities, because I do think that it is quite possible that every choice that we have ever made then turns into a different alternate parallel timeline that's running simultaneously to ours. So there's really,
00:35:26
Speaker
infinite amounts of timelines to be in. And have you seen, oh yeah, you probably haven't seen it, but there's a show on Netflix called the OA. No. And the OA is about like jumping into a different timeline, into a parallel timeline, into a parallel reality.
00:35:50
Speaker
And they would do these and it also involves like near-death experiences as well. So this group of people that had had near-death experiences were kind of captured. They were put into like this isolation tank in a basement.
00:36:05
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And then there was this dude that was constantly killing them over and over and over again and bringing them back to induce a near-death experience. And they all individually met this angel that gave them these moves, these hand moves and these body moves. And they didn't really know exactly what it was for until they got
00:36:30
Speaker
all five of the moves. So it takes five people and they would do these moves and that would give them the ability to jump into a parallel timeline or an alternate timeline, physically.
00:36:45
Speaker
And it's a very, very interesting show. If people haven't seen it, I highly recommend it. It's actually really freaking mind blowing, especially the second season. It's like, holy shit. Yeah. So at the, I'm just going to go ahead and spoil it for people. So if you don't want to, uh, if you haven't seen it and you actually want to watch it, just, uh, you know, turn the volume off for a couple of minutes here.
00:37:14
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So at the very end of the series, there's this stained glass window. It's called the rose collared window. And everybody that's ever attempted to look out the rose collared window has died because they can't handle the ultimate truth. They can't handle the ultimate truth of the universe. It's too much for them. It's too much information and it overpowers them and they just die. So at the end, there's this gentleman
00:37:45
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that finally gets to look out the rose-colored window because he can handle the information. So he looks out the rose-colored window and he sees a movie set. And this goes right over the head of almost everyone that I've ever talked to about this show. They don't get it. They don't understand it. The ultimate truth
00:38:14
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is that this reality is fake. It's not real. It's a movie, right? Or what some people would call a simulation or, you know, a game, an experiment.
00:38:34
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basically, and that's what he sees. And he opens up the window and freaking movie set dude. And I'm like, holy shit. They just subliminally told you that this entire reality is like a giant movie. It's not even real. And if people were to realize that and really take that in, it would break that.
00:39:05
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You know, it would break them psychologically. It would be too much information for them to handle. And they would probably go like catatonic, basically like the MK ultra programs, you know, the people that went through the MK ultra, uh, torturing of individuals only like a select few actually made it through all of that. Most of them died. Most of them weren't able to handle it. Hmm.
00:39:33
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So it's like, shit, I'm watching this and my holy crap.
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like anybody that's ever watched it, I'm like, hey, like, go back and rewatch this. And, you know, listen to what I just said about it. Rewatch it and your your entire perspective will be completely changed. So do you reckon this severe ignorance that we're seeing in the population at large to these agendas is in a way
00:40:06
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a self-defense mechanism? Yes, in order for us to wrap our head around something to make it make sense, even though it doesn't make sense, and for someone to come up with some kind of explanation that fits into their needily curated echo chamber of thought. Yeah, I think so. Absolutely.
00:40:37
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There's one dude I was following for a while. He's not putting out much content now, but he was talking about that we, our real selves are in Mount Meru, okay? In the North Pole. And we are projecting ourselves here.
00:41:01
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it's like some type of toroidal field. So this earthly existence is actually a dream. Our real true self is, you know, this sort of powerful being, et cetera, all that stuff. We are safe and we are experiencing this. And the reason we are experiencing it is to, we are experiencing
00:41:25
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externally all of that which we are not and so the way I am very careful with a lot of stuff like this that's a little bit new agey where you're rose tinting a lot of things painting it with very sort of cheerful colors like you know it's it's all good it's just
00:41:49
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The birthing pains of a new age now all this strife and conflict is the Birthing pains and then the golden age of humanity is upon us But what this dude was saying is that all of this crazy shit that's happening out there like the a quote-unquote elites they're not
00:42:11
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like their agenda isn't to like destroy us, depopulate us and all that shit. It's to they're basically an agent of this sort of dream. They're like basically an act like an actor or set of actors in the theater in the in the set in the movie.
00:42:30
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And they're there just to kind of help us see the evil. And when you see the evil, you're like, I'm not that, you know, and it's like, there's a philosophical sort of way to, I forgot what it's called, but to come to, come
00:42:47
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About to a truth that can be said that's truth and it goes through Saying it's like this laptop in front of me. Is it white? It's not white. It's not pink and then go is it's not a an elephant and you Enumerate all the things it's not the things that's left. It's black is is is it and
00:43:10
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So what do you what do you take on what's your take on that? I didn't like he talks about a lot of other shit. I'll send you the channel after the show. But you can, if you're interested in looking into it. But what's your take on that? Yes, my friend Paul Knight just did a an entire video on mountain mural. What the flock TV. And he discovered a bunch of things in there. He discovered that
00:43:38
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Mount Meru on a map resembles a rock, a black rock. What's the largest corporation in the world? Black rock. And then also, what is the most popular rock? That most popular rock would be carbon. So carbon is us. We are carbon.
00:44:03
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And also if you rearrange the word MIRU, M-E-R-U, you put the U in front and the R beside the U, you have you are me.
00:44:22
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So that kind of fits into your, uh, your, your hypothesis that we could all be safe at this, uh, this Mount Meru, like we're all there and then we're here having this experience. Yeah. Cause if you look at Mount Meru as Mount, you are me. Hmm.
00:44:48
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Right. Paul and I put a huge put this video out just the other day, two or three days ago. I highly recommend people to check out his channel. What the flock TV very informative and everything that I just mentioned about Mount Meru there was from his channel. But then you also have a lot of things that revolve around Meru as well. You have the.
00:45:16
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Meru people from Kenya. You have Meru, which is A-M-E-R-U, which is a dragon snake scale, scaley looking dragon snake. And it's said that the Mount Meru has the skills of life.
00:45:42
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So there's a lot of really crazy good connections here just with Muru and Muru. And also Muru is considered to also be called the shiny light, the shining ones, or the shining as well.
Chemicals' Spiritual Impact and Mind Control
00:46:04
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So that's a relation to the Anunnaki and Sumerian gods too. They were known as the shining ones.
00:46:12
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Interesting. A fun fact about carbon is also its atomic number is six. And this dude that I was talking about, he talks about
00:46:28
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basically, you know, like 666. I mean, there's various different, I suppose, interpretations of what 666 means in the Bible and so on and so forth. Not necessarily negative, actually, but the number six kind of
00:46:46
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denotes or maybe represents physical reality. And he was talking about alcohol and think about why is alcohol, of all the drugs, of all the medicinal plants,
00:47:01
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What are they pushing as legal and readily available to almost everybody within a mile radius of you? Alcohol. A lot of these solvents, like this hexane and stuff like that, the configuration of the ring, it's also got six sides. The guy was explaining a lot better than me, obviously.
00:47:27
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When he talks about if you drink alcohol, it actually basically cuts you off from your spiritual, not even the spiritual above you, but it's actually your roots. You're in a shadow or an emanation of the spiritual realm. So the alcohol cuts off that connection, it severs it. And that's why, you know, it's sort of
00:47:53
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it keeps you in the physical reality. So what we were discussing earlier with a lot of these folks were to glimpse at the true nature of the reality. I think, yes, some people would not handle it well, could go psychotic, but others could definitely
00:48:13
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shed layers of programming very fast and then once you understand that you become a lot less manipulatable by all this other stuff. Yeah, I think that alcohol is
00:48:30
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I mean, it's called spirits. That's what, you know, alcohol is a nickname for alcohol and spirits. So I think that might be relating to an infiltration of spirits, something that isn't your own thoughts, something that doesn't come from you, you know, is infiltrating into your body. Because that's really what you're doing when you're drinking any substance, especially alcohol.
00:49:02
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It doesn't come from you. It comes from outside of yourself. You drink it, then you get possibly infiltrated. I don't know of any scenario that alcohol has actually been good for people. I think that it kind of
00:49:26
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gets us rooted into our innate kind of reality that whenever we were like cavemen and stuff because our ambitions just completely go out the window.
00:49:42
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We're just like, oh yeah, forget about it, screw it. And we get this really animalistic instinct. Like something has taken us over. Like something's infiltrating into us. And then we start being unruly. We start getting into fights. We do wild and crazy things when a lot of alcohol is introduced into our system. So there's definitely some kind of,
00:50:10
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infiltration going on with that. I don't think that it's just called spirits for nothing. But of course, what they say is it's a disinhibitor. So your inhibitions are lowered. They always come up with a medical or technical term. It's fucking ridiculous, bro.
00:50:35
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It is. And then you're talking about the 666 here. Paul and I also talked about the six being related to carbon and the 666 and how it is like the number for man here, which I think is highly plausible. And that's why it's been really demonized and it's been inverted and turned upside down because really all of our
00:51:02
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Symbols and everything in our reality has been inverted and turned upside down, right? You know the the upside down cross You know has been inverted and to mean something evil when it's probably the the opposite way Upside down cross is probably more than likely something good and something positive and right side up cross is you know a negative aspect and
00:51:32
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It's like what makes people think that if Jesus really existed and he was crucified on the cross
00:51:43
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What part of his story makes people think that he likes crosses? You know, why makes zero sense? Like why would we worship a deity or a God or the Son of God with the thing that he supposedly died on?
00:52:05
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It's like if the romans had pounded him to death with a baseball bat and then everyone's wearing a baseball bat. Yeah, Jesus. Amen. It's ridiculous, dude. It's wild how everything has been turned upside down in our reality. The meanings have changed. The meanings of words have changed. The spellings of words have changed. It's all
00:52:32
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to hijack us and to make us not know where anything actually comes from. Because if we have that knowledge, then we would be like them, right? That's why they're coveting the knowledge. They want to hold the knowledge for themselves, just like they want to hide the technology for themselves.
00:52:53
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Yeah. They don't want to admit that they have the technology. They don't want to admit that they have the knowledge because then it gives an opportunity for everyone to be like them. Every man, woman, and child on the planet
00:53:10
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to be like them. So they coveted, they hold it for themselves, they lock it away in some archive, they put it underground, you know, they hide it, they covet the knowledge, you know. And just like they've done, like I mentioned with the technology, right, the excuse is that it's
00:53:33
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extraterrestrials. The excuse is that it's these beings that's coming to rape, torture, and kill us and alter our genetics and take our samples of our DNA. That's what they're fucking doing. Yeah. That's what they're doing. Yeah. That's what they've been doing. So it's an excuse to blame it on something else.
00:54:00
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All the while, they've been genetically modifying us. They've been messing with our food. They've been messing with our air. They've been inserting things into our body to change our DNA. It's not extraterrestrials, guys, it's us. It's been us. It's always been us. But if they can blame it on something out there, or blame it on a freaking boogeyman that no one ever sees,
00:54:29
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Just like the, the terrorist blaming on the terrorism. I've never seen a terrorist in my life, but apparently there's millions of them in other countries, you know, it's, and you know, with the whole thing of 2020, right? It's a boogeyman. It's out to get you. It's everywhere you go. And no matter what you do, you're not safe. Even if you're healthy.
00:54:59
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You're not safe. You're, you're then an asymptomatic spreader, which is fucking bro. That's just like next level evil genius, isn't it? It is. What virus in the history of humanity can someone have that they don't know that they have?
00:55:28
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There isn't one. Now you can say that, you know, uh, sexually transmitted diseases are viruses. I don't really, I consider them in a different camp, but again, I'm not a doctor. I'm not a pathologist. I'm not a virus expert or none of that. Right. But there's no virus in the history of viruses that somebody can have and not know that they have.
00:55:58
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If you have a sickness, you got a cold, you have the flu, you know, you freaking have the cold. You know that you have a flu. It's impossible not to know that. Even with, um, you know, uh, diseases like, um, HIV or hepatitis, you have symptoms of having HIV and hepatitis.
00:56:27
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And if you don't, then it's not that deadly. You're not going to die from it. So they've perpetuated this whole thing. Uh, and I personally believe just created it. They've just created it out of nothing. They've created it on the thought processes and the propaganda from people believing in it. Of course.
00:56:52
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You know, that's all that it's been. And that's what it was from the very beginning. And I said this from the very beginning. I was never fooled. Oh yeah. Same here, bro. Not once. I knew exactly what was going on and people can say, Oh, well, what do you mean, bro? You didn't know what was happening. Yeah, I did. The day that it hit, I was in an office. I was working in an office and I was like, bro, all this shit is, is the flu.
00:57:23
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Yeah.
00:57:25
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That's all it is. It's the flu that we get every single year that kills up to 50,000 people every year since the early 2000s. Except 2020 or 2021 where because of our, because we all wear, wore masks and you know, this effect our hands, we completely eradicated the flu. It's a miracle of medicine. Wow. How do we, bro.
00:57:54
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who the thunk who the thunk that people would fucking fall for that shit even god dude even like practitioners that i was talking to telling me this shit dude like man but i'm sorry go ahead if mast were
00:58:14
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and eradicating the flu like they want to lead us to believe, then why the fuck have we not been wearing masks during every single flu season for the past 20 years? Do you think, sorry, let me ask you this. You know, there was some pictures that surfaced from 1918 or whatever the Spanish flu was, and there was people with masks. Do you think that those were fake and they were kind of
00:58:42
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found, quote unquote, from the past to normalize this mask wearing as, Oh, we did it before, you know, we did it a hundred years ago. And what do you think?
00:58:53
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You're talking about the long nose doctor's mask. Um, no, um, there was, um, I think it was like an ad in a paper, uh, you know, mask up like on the front, uh, front page of a, of a newspaper, you know, wear a mask. There was a picture of, you know, people like I think hospital staff or something like black and white picture wearing masks.
00:59:18
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I mean, masks have been worn in hospitals forever, but it's not to keep people from being sick or preventing some kind of illness. It's to prevent contamination. Of course. You don't want the doctor drooling in your open wound when he's sticking up or whatever.
00:59:42
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Yeah, that's what it was all used for and doctors have been doing that for Really since the the black plague they've been wearing masks like that that whole the the black plague mask were Majority of them were all worn by doctors and healthcare workers The the the population wasn't wearing them. Yeah
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You know, and that was what masks have been used for up until 2020 when they decided, oh, yeah.
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Now, we've been using masks to prevent contamination between surgical matters and stuff like that, but now they serve a new use. They all of a sudden now protect you from spreading or getting a boogity-boo virus. Even though in the box it says it doesn't, but never mind that. Just science. No.
01:00:49
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It's a mind control. It's a mind control device. I mean, that's, that's all that it was. And people continue to still wear them. Like I see people all the time. I'm like, bro, like what are you doing? Last week I saw a dude here and it's getting warm here where I'm at in Portugal. And, uh, I see occasionally people in their car alone. Maybe they're trying to protect themselves from all the phthalates and plastics in the car. Maybe.
01:01:19
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Maybe they're so next level. Why are we being such negative dicks? Maybe they're just next level preempting some shit, bro. The Asians, they had this on lock way before 2022. They were wearing a mask way before that. I lived in California and all of them, every time I would see an Asian person walking down the road, they had a mask on.
01:01:44
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But you know, bro, interesting, I was in Japan, like, seven years ago, whatever, eight, and people there, they would wear a mask when they're sick, which kind of goes back to what you're talking about. You know, you don't want to use putum and stuff, contaminating surfaces and, you know, hitting other people. So they're wearing it when they're sick, not to prevent fucking hell, you know? And but
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Oh, something I wanted to ask earlier back on the reincarnation thread. So if we think about the population of the world increasing sort of exponentially over, let's say the last couple of hundred years, there's a lot of influx of humans that therefore there's a lot of influx of souls. So could it be?
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that these newer souls or these newer people that were born, they were younger souls that for whatever reason decided to come. So they're not as savvy in this realm, in this reality. Therefore, you know, it's your first time
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And maybe that's why things like obesity and food addiction and drug addiction have increased because all of these new souls, they maybe cannot control these impulses because of this sensory sort of orgasm, you know, colors, food, drinks, sensations, etc., etc.
01:03:19
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And could that be the reason you reckon maybe there's all these new people that are all these people that don't fucking can't even put two and two together when like people would be spelling it out for years and years and years. Could that be a factor that is playing a role here? That's an interesting thought and theory. I think that
01:03:45
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It's more along the lines of people not knowing anything that's going on here. And that could be a
01:03:55
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Like you're mentioning, they're new. They don't know what's happening. So they come here. They don't know who they are. But we all come in like that. We all come in not knowing what's going on. We're like, what am I doing here? What is this reality? What's happening? Why does everything seem so fake? I mean, that's how I came in. I was like, what am I doing here? Who am I?
01:04:26
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What is this reality? And why am I here? That's one of the very first thoughts that I remember ever having was like, why? What's going on? Because it felt so foreign. And we know that, you know, when you're a child, you're very impressionable. So it depends on your,
01:04:56
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environment, the people that you have around you, your parents, your family members, your brothers and your sisters, basically cultivate your reality. They give you your morals. They give you your direction in life, whether you want to admit it or not, or whether you know it or not. We're basically shaped from our environment.
01:05:24
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You know, if you're born in a shitty environment, now that's not to say that you can't overcome that and be better. And it's also not saying that if you're born in a good environment, that you're not going to have a bad life. It goes either way, right? You can be born into a very rich household and still have a shit ton of problems. You can be born in the ghetto,
01:05:55
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and still make something of your life. It's not a foolproof thing, but it does shape the way that you interact with people. It does shape your ideas, your thoughts, and your beliefs. So if you're just segregated, you're just kind of closed off and you're only getting
01:06:16
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one version of reality and you don't ever dig deeper into that, then you're going to be one sort of way your entire life.
01:06:29
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And this is where the experience of life comes in, right? You've had a different experience of your life. I've had a different experience of my life. So therefore my thoughts and my ideas, while may be similar to yours, because we're both in the space and we're both having this conversation, they're ultimately going to be different.
01:06:51
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just like everybody that's listening to the show right now they've had a different experience of their life and they're going to agree with some things that I say they're going to disagree with other things that I say just like that they're going to do with you all because of the shaping of their reality and their experience thus far now if you're I would say I don't want to use the word enlightened because I think that's
01:07:21
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Some people use enlightenment as like a superior term, and I'm not superior to anybody. I'm just like everyone else, right? But if you have- Except the vaccinated. Yeah. Sorry, that was a joke, guys. Sorry.
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Yeah, so if I'm just like everyone else in the fact that we're different, we've had a different experience, but we're all here. We're all physical beings. We're all doing the exact same thing. We're just trying to figure stuff out and figure out what's going on here. I think that's the ultimate question for everyone, the ultimate question for the universe. What are we really doing here?
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When we don't have that information because Nobody really knows Then we try and fill that void With outside sources we try and fill that void with Food we're trying to fill that void with exercise. We try and fill that void with working. We try and fill that void with money and
01:08:33
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We're trying to fill that void with working 24 seven, no downtime. We're trying to fill that void with other people and solving other people's problems without looking at our own.
01:08:49
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There's a bunch of different ways, and we fill it with materialism. How many items can we have? What all can we have in our house? What's the nicest thing? We fill it with new cars. We fill it with new phones, new computers, a brand new pair of shoes, all of these things, but they don't do anything for us spiritually.
01:09:14
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Because I personally believe we all have a spiritual void within ourselves that are making us unhappy because we just don't know. We don't know what's going on. We fear the unknown. We fear what is going to happen next. We fear the afterlife. We fear dying. We fear death.
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because nobody knows, no one has.
01:09:46
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the answers to those questions. Now you can theorize and hypothesize on those questions, but that's really what they are. They're theories and hypotheses, which I love doing and I really enjoy doing because it brings new thoughts and new ideas to the listener and brings new thoughts and ideas to me and new thoughts and ideas to you. I just think that we've been
01:10:15
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looking outside of ourselves so much that we've created this inability to actually know what's going on and actually find truth because truth has been overruled by belief, just like I was mentioning earlier. It's all been overruled
01:10:46
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by belief, and no matter how deeply you believe in something, it doesn't make it true. It doesn't make it real. It doesn't make it factual. I could be like, hey, the sun is shining. It's a beautiful day out here right now where I'm at. And you could be where you are, and you can say, oh, man.
01:11:17
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I really want it to be a beautiful day here too. I want the sun to be shining as well. So I'm going to believe that the sun is shining and it's a beautiful day, even though it's cloudy and it's raining outside. So you can believe all that you want, but it doesn't take away the fact and the truth that it's cloudy and raining outside.
01:11:47
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Yeah. And this, Marc Pacio talks about this, the pushing solipsism as well, where you basically, you know, kids nowadays, and when I say kids, I mean, like, I mean, like teenage, late teens, early twenties, they're pushing this sort of solipsism where it's about, it's not about finding the truth, it's about finding your truth.
01:12:15
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And is there really objective truth? Is there universal truth? No, there isn't. So we create our own reality. And I don't know, to be honest, I sometimes get these feelings of deja vu, like maybe before I was born, or maybe between lives. And I've tried to imagine what it must be, like to be in that state, or like when you die.
01:12:42
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The senses fall away. You do have this base consciousness, which is like the floor, the ocean, and you know, you're the waves, we're waves, or maybe the thoughts, the thoughts we have as another analogy are the waves and the mind.
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is consciousness, or the lives that we lead are the waves and the ocean is consciousness through which it arrives. And the waves are always moving, the ocean is always moving, so is consciousness. Cycles, yeah. So I wonder, could it be that when you die, at least from the sort of Tibetan Buddhism stuff I've looked into,
01:13:28
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There's a process where obviously the body deteriorates and the senses deteriorate. And the body is the receiver, the radio, and we can tune it. So when the actual physical breaks away, you're basically now in a state of just pure consciousness. And you could be in a state for
01:13:57
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an eternity but it's up to you given the previous sort of karmic attachments it's up to you to then you because everything consciousness creates everything it's up to you to create the next reality that you want to you know crystallize for a given period of time
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And during this time, perhaps if you, I don't know, maybe do some exercises in the mortal state, perhaps if you are able to remain lucid during this time, you are then, instead of following the momentum of the previous karmic connections, you are maybe then able to either decide to remain in the state of bliss, pure consciousness,
01:14:47
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And you probably do. You're like, fuck it, I need to regenerate. That's why when they do past life regression therapy on past lives, repeating myself, the average time would be about 50 years between past lives. So it looks like there's a time required for resting or whatever. Maybe there is spent in different realities or whatever.
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But when, at least from Ian Stevens' research on reincarnation, when there's a sudden death, like a person getting killed or accident, the reincarnation is near immediate. So it looks like the soul or whatever, the energy, the consciousness,
01:15:33
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It's like abruptly taken out of the body, so it almost bounces back into reality because it's a bit confused. What's your take on this sort of thought?
01:15:49
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Yeah, I think the that's really interesting concept there. And if you take the, like what you're mentioning about, you know, being able to break out of the this incarnation cycle, you know, Max Spears talked about that the that the demons dwell in
01:16:16
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uh, complete and utter euphoria. Whoa. So if the demons dwell on euphoria, which euphoria would drive you crazy, it would drive you insane. And if you were just in a constant state of euphoria, you would, your brain wouldn't be able to handle it. You would get lost, you know,
01:16:46
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especially an overpowering amount of euphoria. So then where would the, what would the angels dwell in? If the angels aren't dwelling in euphoria, they would be dwelling in something else, right?
01:17:10
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maybe it's that the angels have been hardened by being in a state of what would be the opposite of euphoria dysphoria now that would be like almost like
01:17:30
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Well, I don't know. I'd have to look up with the opposite of euphoria, the actual terminology of what the opposite of euphoria is. But I would say that it would be like, almost like what people would consider hell to be. Like torture, basically.
01:17:51
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So what I mean, you for a constant state of euphoria would almost be like torture as well. It would just be a different kind of condition. So maybe it's that the angels have been. Dwelling in a it's been inverted. And instead of the demons dwelling in this, you know, horrible area of, you know, flames and torture and this, you know, this mess of hell.
01:18:20
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the angels are actually dwelling there and the demons are dwelling where people think that the angels are dwelling so it's been changed it's been inverted and they've uh kind of you know switched sides a little bit so the the angels would be like more honorable and more
01:18:44
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loving and more kind because of the things that they actually went through, the area of life that they're dwelling in.
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And the demons is more is more rough and more intrusive and hateful and mean and you know, because they've been drawing in nothing but euphoria. So they're trying to get something opposite of what they've been in. Okay, now it's making more sense to me. Interesting.
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That's an interesting concept how, you know, because people, they have this weird screwed up version of, you know, light and lightness. If something has a light in the title, you know, Galactic Federation of light that's here to save us, you know, the light beings, you know, activate your light bodies and all this, like, they're, they're assuming that it's, that it's good, that that's like what you want.
01:19:50
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you know, and that they're here to help and they're here to, you know, save people. Well, I mean, just because it's got light in the title doesn't mean that it's good. And just because you got dark in the title or something evil in the title doesn't mean that it's bad. Yeah.
01:20:07
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you know, if you've just put these labels on them and associated them with a, uh, we've given them value based on our, uh, 3d physical perception of them, when it might not be that way at all, it could be completely different, you know, and I, it's a highly plausible to me that it's like that. I don't think that there's really a such a thing as
01:20:38
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you know, good and evil necessarily, it's our perception of those things. I mean, we're given rules whenever we come into this reality, you know, rules that live by them and morals. I think morals are a good thing, you know, don't hurt people, don't damage, don't steal their property, don't take from them, don't physically hurt anyone, don't murder anyone. You know, that should be the rules to live by. Whatever else it is that you do,
01:21:08
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shouldn't matter. If you're not taking stuff from people, you're not hurting them physically, you're not damaging their property, then you should be free to do whatever it is that you want. So you're an anarchist then, yeah? Like me.
01:21:27
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Well, I mean, I think that that should be like the law and people have said that that's kind of what natural law and universal law is, is those, you know, handful of rules to live by. Do no harm unto others, including stealing.
01:21:48
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because Mark Passier, he talks a lot about this natural law stuff. And he says, all of these things are an act of stealing. If you kill, you're stealing life. Obviously, if you steal, you're stealing stuff. And if you lie, you're stealing the truth, which I think a lot of that one is a little bit easier to wrestle around and, you know,
01:22:15
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It's easy for one to lie to people and justify to oneself. It could be for their good or whatever. Philanthropic effort that they're presenting, that they're doing it for.
01:22:36
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Yeah, people always need an excuse, right? An excuse to, well, this person did this, so I need to retaliate in this way. And this has been a top-down thing from the powers that be, you know, they never take responsibility for anything that they've ever done. Never. It's always blamed on something else. It's blamed on another group. It's blamed on another country. It's blamed on another circumstance.
01:23:01
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I don't ever take responsibility for anything that they do. It's never their fault. And that has trickled down into the rest of the population where the population has become liars. The population has become thieves. The population doesn't take responsibility for their actions on the individual level.
01:23:28
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They don't say what's on their mind. We've become cowardice, unhonorable. We've become victims. That's a big one. It wasn't the other person. I mean, it wasn't me. It was the other person. They did this. It's their fault. And then that other person will blame you. Yeah.
01:23:58
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then it never gets solved and no one ever really knows the truth because everyone's just blaming each other. It's like no one wants to take responsibility for anything that they do and it's created this society that we live in. The honorable thing to do is to say,
01:24:27
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Yeah, I did that. And if you had a good reason for doing that, I promise you the person, whatever it is that you did, that person will understand. But if you did something that, you know, didn't have any justification behind it,
01:24:50
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then they're probably not going to understand. And I think that that's the issue and the problem is that people are afraid. They're afraid to take responsibility for their actions. If you dropped a wallet in a crowd of people,
01:25:17
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How many people now do you think would pick up that wallet and try and return it to the person that dropped it? I think, I think here where I live or where I've lived in the countries.
01:25:40
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that were a little bit better off. I think a fair percentage would. If there's cash in there, it might disappear. I think the more better, but this kind of goes to what I've been thinking about. The more better off you, and I'm not talking if you're a psychopath, but the more better off you are as a normal human being that has empathy, the more
01:26:09
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The healthier you are, the healthier your immediate family is, and the better you're doing for yourself in terms of usually finances, but everything that goes with finances, so your family is well provided for, you have security in terms of your future, your children will be taken care of, et cetera. The more of these things you have aligned, the more
01:26:37
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productive you will be in terms of truly contributing to society, to the earth, to the betterment of humanity. I don't mean like just working an office job and paying a bunch of tax. That's fucking not contributing to society. That's contributing to the government, which is the most of the causes of our problems are stem from government. But I feel like a lot of this stuff, like we started talking about, could these toxic compounds be
01:27:06
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diminishing people's spiritual abilities, and then you have all this economic war that's been waged on the developed countries, Western Europe, destroying economies, destroying the people's livelihood, now with the inflation, of course,
01:27:29
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And the more of these things you pile on a person, the more aggressive they will become, the more it's me, me, me. Basically, you turn people into survival mode sort of animals. And the more it degenerates, the worse it gets, obviously, that's when crime can increase.
01:27:55
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So I feel like that's the war that they're waging on the physical side of things is poisoning the population.
01:28:06
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lying to them, brainwashing them with bullshit, indoctrinating them into garbage, and furthermore, destroying hope, demoralizing. Look at how many small businesses suffered the last three years at the big
01:28:27
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giant companies just consolidated power. The petroleum companies still posted record profits and so on, but the small businesses got screwed really badly. So those people, they become more and more desperate. So I feel like if we're let
01:28:46
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to our own devices in small communities. We will naturally progress to developing relationships, bartering more, helping each other out. Even 50 years ago, when my grandparents were living and stuff like that,
01:29:03
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even I remember when when I was a kid like six seven years old it was so amazing these amazing memories back in my village in the old country helping my grandma you know she would take one of her friends was a shepherd had a huge flock of sheep could have been like three 30 40 sheep she would
01:29:29
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take them out and for him because he needed to go to the big city for whatever else and like people would help each other your cherries for my tomatoes and so on so I feel like if you if you take that away from people so this is why the supermarket stuff it really just after the second world war
01:29:50
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You know, the supermarket just completely killed off our connection to the land and to growing our own food. Now you become a dependent on this another, this other supply chain. So it's always supply chains that are seemingly purposely designed to be super brittle. So that anytime you want to pull the plug, even I think about right now, if diesel, the diesel supply stops.
01:30:17
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Think about, like if anyone can ever do a thought experiment, if just the diesel supply is, the tap is turned off, what sort of chaos would fucking ensue, you know? Yeah, I think that this has all been a part of the plan. If it wasn't a part of the plan, then they would have made living conditions, things more easily, readily available. If they didn't have an agenda behind it, they wouldn't be doing it.
01:30:46
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Yeah. If it wasn't done for a reason, it wasn't done for a purpose. If it wasn't done to purposefully back everyone into a corner and to create some sort of quasi uprising, then they wouldn't do it.
01:31:11
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You know, that's what people really need to get into their head is that anything that happens is done for a reason. And all the reasons that we are being told that it's being done for is a lie. It's way deeper than that.
01:31:37
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And you have to look just a tiny bit deeper. And it's normally the simplest explanation, really. But unfortunately, people in the community want to complicate things and look at everything like it's that you have to decode it and create this elaborate scheme that they've been doing, which it is an elaborate scheme.
01:32:06
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but it's all to crush civilization the way that they want it to be crushed. Nothing is ever going to happen unless they permit it to happen, they want it to happen, or it's happening right on schedule.
01:32:29
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And that's just the fact. It's just the fact of the reality. And that's not me saying give up. There's no way to go about it. There's nothing that we can do. That's not what I'm saying. There is a lot that we can do. And the awareness of that is the most important. They're looking for a big extravagant end to all this.
01:33:00
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in the best way, in the easiest way to get that big extravagant and because all this stuff just didn't happen for any reason, right? They're trying to get us back to some form of normalcy, but it went too far. They're taking it too far. We're not going to get
01:33:25
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back the way things were back in the 80s and 90s and all that. It's been a slow process. They've done it slowly. But now they're just going to speed that up. They've hit us with the biggest thing that they could possibly hit us with. And it's going to keep going down. It's going to be little by little by little. And the easiest way
01:33:56
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to do this great big grand finale is to make us think that it's our idea. And that's really all that I'm going to say about it, because I don't really have any theories and dates and all that can be wrong. But whatever it's going to be,
01:34:22
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It's going to be convincing enough that it's going to get the majority of the population backing it. And the majority of the population is what's going to bring everything to its knees. That's the only way that it can work. That's it. You can't do it forcefully. You can't come in with
01:34:53
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tanks and enact martial law, especially not in the United States. Not in the US for sure. Can't do it here. No way. No way. Can't do it. It creates too much opposition. Yeah. But if you have the opposition thinking that they're doing the right thing all the while, the right thing is actually the wrong thing and the wrong thing is a part of the agenda.
01:35:25
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then you have them do it for you. That's what's going to happen. As we wrap up here, I want to ask you what, um, if someone is like a complete beginner to this stuff, right? To conspiracies and whatnot, what would some of the stuff is a little bit too heavy for most people. What would you, what thread would you recommend them sort of explore first?
01:35:55
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I would implore them to explore the MKUltra programs. I would implore them to look up the history of MKUltra, where that came from, where that started, how it happened, what they did, the techniques that they used.
01:36:18
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because it's all very verifiable. And once you read those 149 declassified sub-projects of MKUltra, everything starts to make sense. And then you can just look around in your reality and be like, holy shit, this is exactly what's going on. And it literally relates to every single topic
01:36:47
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that's discussed in the alternative community.
01:36:53
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relates to UFOs, it relates to healing abductions, it relates to alien contact, it relates to medications, it relates to LSD, it relates to mushrooms, it relates to antidepressants, the drugging of the community, you know, drugging of the population, relates to some sort of V2K technology, the manipulation of our symbiotic nervous system.
01:37:18
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It relates to psychic abilities. It relates to remote viewing. It relates to ESP. It relates to channeling. Like, all of it. Everything that's ever talked about is somehow related. There's a connection to the MK Ontra programs.
01:37:47
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everything it all is it's all connected right yeah and once you realize that a majority of this is not done by extraterrestrials it's not done by some mystical uh boogeyman force that's been controlling and manipulating humanity it's not the reptilians that are living underground it's not the graze from zeta reticuli
01:38:14
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that as human beings has been human beings since the very beginning, then you've officially shuffled through all of the bullshit. You shuffle through all of the nonsense.
01:38:36
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Once you realize that it's not aliens that is attempting to change our DNA and create a human 2.0, that is the government. That is these three letter organizations, that is the military. Once you realize that it's not aliens in UFOs, it's not aliens in these craft, that is the military. It's not aliens that are abducting people.
01:39:08
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It's the military. It's not... Aliens is doing these hybridization programs. It's the military.
01:39:20
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you know, then you are, you know, one step closer. And people don't believe that kind of stuff, because they want it to be mystical, they want it to be otherworldly, they want to believe that we're not the only, you know, beings in the universe, that there's more out there and all that. It's not fairytale, man. People want the fairytale.
01:39:44
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They want their fairy tale because the fairy tale sells. Yeah. The fairy tale sells and people can make money off of the fairy tale. Yeah. But unfortunately the truth isn't a fairy tale. The truth is very real and the truth is happening here on this planet. And, um, you know, I hate to be the bearer of bad news on that, but,
01:40:13
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It's not anything mystical. It's humans with human money. It's humans with human created technology that has perpetuated multiple, multiple, multiple crimes against humanity that continue continuously every single day, perpetuate crimes against humanity.
01:40:43
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but they don't want you to know that because then you can do something about it. Then you're going to be pissed off. I'd rather redirect you to something that's out of your grasp that you can't do anything about. Can't do anything about aliens and do anything about extraterrestrials. They're so far advanced. They got all this advanced technology. You can't do anything about them. Nothing we can do. Stop them.
01:41:14
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But we can do something to stop humans and they are not going to let that happen. True. It's true. And the thing is.
01:41:28
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Reality is what it is, you know, we have to just man the fuck up a little bit and face reality and just take steps to to do what what we feel is right, given the information we presented. I agree with that. And, you know, don't make, you know, definitive statements, always keep your
01:41:58
Speaker
mind open to the possibility. I mean, my mind is always open to the possibility that there's a possibility that extraterrestrials or aliens do exist. It's always there, right? Yeah. But there's no evidence and there's no proof until there is evidence and proof of some sort of
01:42:25
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extraterrestrial, physical, alien species that's been coming to Earth, then I'm not going to believe it. Because you can't believe it. It's impossible to believe. It's just a story. But I'm willing to reevaluate
01:42:49
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my beliefs when substantial evidence comes, then I'll reevaluate almost everything that I've said in this entire interview. Of course. But until then, there's much more proof that all of this is human. It's all human involvement in crimes against humanity.
01:43:10
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And not aliens and not extraterrestrial controllers. So that's what I'm working with right now. And I am open to the possibility sometime in the future, though, I don't believe it's ever going to happen. Disclosure is never going to happen because they don't exist unless they've created it. Right. They can create an extraterrestrial, they can create a little drone gray.
01:43:39
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shuffle that out to, uh, the population and be like, Oh, Hey, you're after 70 years of, you know, covering up the existence of aliens and extraterrestrials. Like you all thought that we were doing, here's your proof. Here's a little gray alien. Well, can you prove that it came from Zeta reticulae? Can you prove that it came from outside? We'll get the G the CGI for that.
01:44:09
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It's it's you know, it's true because it looks so fake. Yeah, that's what he said. Yeah, man. That's wild. That's cheeky, isn't it? Right in your face. And oh my NASA loving mates. I like to make fun of that. And they're like, just think he's just a conspiracy theorist. He's a bit kooky. You know, Christian is a bit kooky like that. He's not that bright anyway. You know,
01:44:39
Speaker
Yeah, they don't even really know how to feel about space and make all that like I don't really have any thoughts and theories but I do know that they've basically lied to us about
01:44:54
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everything else very rarely tell us the truth about anything. And even when they do tell us the truth about something, people in the community automatically don't believe them, which is another issue, right? They've, they've created so much distrust within the community that even if they were to come out and tell you the truth, people aren't going to believe it, right? That's a huge issue that, you know, we're running into as a community.
01:45:22
Speaker
Yeah. Like, this is a good example. My friend Paul Knight that I was mentioning earlier about what the FLAC TV made that video about Mount Muru. And he created this meme that was of Madonna. And he put a an alien shirt on her.
01:45:53
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did a bang up job, killed it, looks very real. Looks like she was legitimately wearing the alien shirt that he Photoshopped onto Madonna. It's like a little green alien on her. And later that day, I seen people
01:46:20
Speaker
and talking about adrenochrome harvesting and everything. And they were taking it as it was real, bro. They took a fake photo that my friend Paul Knight photoshopped and started spreading it around like it was real. Like she actually had the real shirt on.
Online Misinformation and Skepticism
01:46:43
Speaker
Yeah, man. It's unbelievable. It's embarrassing. And if Paul can do that that easily,
01:46:50
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Yeah. How much of this other shit that we've been seeing on the internet and on all these different platforms are like that?
01:46:59
Speaker
I was a large majority of them. It could be because what I have posted or shared things before that were later found to be nonsense. So he embarrassed myself a couple of times. So since then I'm a little bit more skeptical what I share that I see immediately, you know, like in my telegram channels or whatever.
01:47:22
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If it's something like I know, I've researched, that I know is true, like a meme, I will share it immediately. But something new, I have to like, uh, you know, you just, who is the source? Is it like some dude that just figured all the shit out like last year that was from a religious background and now they're all satanic?
01:47:43
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you know, this satanic everything satanic and you don't mean this our previous history can color how we how we see now if you start getting deep into the research it could cut like if you if you've been traumatized as a child a lot of these things could be very triggering and they could cause you to not compartmentalize but like to to like tell yourself some stories to
01:48:13
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block out said trauma and that would skew your perception of the research and then what you are then sharing with other people could be in a very shaky ground to begin with.
01:48:31
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And then people, if you're an influencer of some, if you have an audience, people can take this information and out there, you know, on a foundation of sand. And then they talk to other people, like that they're uninitiated to this, and then they make a bollocks of it. And then the whole, the whole sort of truth movement looks like
01:48:57
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Influencers, Misinformation, and Podcast Promotion
01:48:58
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of idiots. You know, these are the smartest people. If it was that easy for Paul to do that.
01:49:09
Speaker
It's that easy for a three letter organization. It's that easy for some high level politician to do the exact same thing. And he's done it before. He did a April Fool's joke one year by creating a fake CIA document for one of his friends. Yeah, I heard that one.
01:49:31
Speaker
Later on, that document was used as proof that the CIA was investigating a Facebook group. It's wild, dude. It's freaking wild. And when you look at it like that, it's almost like nothing is real, dude. It's all nonsense bullshit. I've listened to Paul Knight on your podcast, actually, at least a couple of episodes. He's brilliant. He's a very, very interesting guy.
01:50:00
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Well, speaking of your podcast writer, tell the folks where they can find a lot more of discussions related to all of these topics that we covered are in much more depth explored there. So let folks know where they can find it.
01:50:14
Speaker
You can find me on Raised by Giants on YouTube, Rockfan, Odyssey, Rumble, and all of the different podcast platforms. You can find me on Twitter at Raised by Giants 8 and on Instagram at Raised by Giants Pod. Thanks so much, Christian. I appreciate you having me back on. Wonderful conversation.
01:50:35
Speaker
Uh, yeah, that's it. I released two. Well, I think I'm going to cut down on the amount of shows that I do because it's becoming a little overwhelming. So, uh, this week I will be releasing
01:50:50
Speaker
a show. Well, I don't know when this is coming out, but on Tuesday the 28th at 8 p.m. EST will be a show and then on Friday at 8 p.m. EST as well. Thanks so much for having me on, brother. Appreciate you a lot. I hope everyone enjoyed it.
01:51:11
Speaker
Thank you, bro. I certainly did. I'm sure many your most listening will. Unless you're an ignorant normie, don't be an ignorant normie. God damn it. Just kidding. Love you all. Thanks for tuning in, guys.