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Make Charity a healthy smoothie (Emmerdale 14-25 July 2025)
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Our latest ramblings about Sarah's surrogacy and sudden marital status change, Robert closing in on John (and perhaps on Aaron? We live in hope of #Robron) and what on earth Dawn gets up to in an average working week.
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Introduction to 'Dingle All The Way'
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello, welcome to, I think, episode six of Dingle All The Way. I'm Simon. And I'm Lizzie. And we're going to cover for the last couple of weeks of Ammerdale and it's not so hot as last time we're recording, but we have just had our own little meltdown in trying to get a connection to work, but we're here and that's not interesting for people. so It's not interesting for them, but it is interesting for us. And I think people need to realise that's the main point of this podcast. That's the priority. We interest ourselves.
Surrogacy Storyline Discussion
00:00:29
Speaker
I did actually listen to quite a lot of follow-up episodes last night when I, maybe at like half midnight, was just like,
00:00:35
Speaker
So I just got carried away. Is it a cry for help if if you're listening to your own voice for that long? Like, is everything okay? No. Of course not. No, of course not. Has everything ever been okay with life?
00:00:52
Speaker
But we do look like we've got our lives together by contrast with the good people living in Emmerdale. And i think the main story we're going to talk about this week is actually, I guess, not a sort of life falling apart story, depending on your perspective, be' interested in your perspective. but But the whole surrogacy story with Sarah, which we have mentioned before, but it really came into its own in this um this past couple of weeks. And there was a line I want to kick off with, actually, which was at DNA's funeral that Charity said, maybe it was talking about the funeral beforehand, I can hardly lean over between hymns and say, psst, I'm going to give birth to my own great grandchild. It's like, yes, Charity, you've really, like that a lot of people are acknowledging
00:01:35
Speaker
that she will be pregnant with her own great-grandchild. Because I don't know about you, but that's not something I've experienced or seen anyone around me experience.
00:01:45
Speaker
ah It would certainly to be a lot if you personally were carrying anybody's child. um Real medical miracle. I also, I don't think twigged until it was mentioned multiple times in the last couple of episodes that she's not even 50 yet.
00:01:59
Speaker
um And she's... going to carry her own great-grandchild. She looks great. she She looks much less than 50, but she... Oh, yeah, but I just thought because of the many generations that have come forth from her that she must... I guess they're all just having children when they're about 12 or something, so... There was a lot of teenage pregnancy. um So in some ways, Sarah's backing the trend because she has waited until she's just out of those teens before she wants to get pregnant. She she is the oldest person to have a baby in that family for a while. Well, to have a first baby, at least.
00:02:30
Speaker
Yeah, so true. um Yeah, I know it was a while ago now, but just wanted to revisit the fact that they only really remembered that Victoria was at all related to Sarah when they were like, oh, you should be the surrogate.
00:02:46
Speaker
Charity didn't even ask her nicely. Charity just sat her down and was like, I'm just going to say, you should carry Sarah's child. And she was like, um, cool. Cool.
00:02:59
Speaker
It wasn't really question.
Telepathic Connection with Emmerdale Writers
00:03:02
Speaker
I know we have concluded that it may be, it's there's a possibility that they're not re-recording episodes based on our podcast. But I did like after, it yeah, not long after we'd said, why do they never acknowledge this relationship?
00:03:15
Speaker
Like in the next week, they had that, you're, you know, Auntie Vic with uterus for hire.
00:03:23
Speaker
Yeah, it's like we have a link with them. Like maybe there is some sort of um telepathy that we've got that no one else has. Yeah, and that, if anything, is our USP. Yeah, and we should put that on the episode descriptions.
00:03:40
Speaker
Imagine if we did have some sort of psychic ability and we thought the best way to use it would be to like get some hints about what is about to happen in Emmerdale, but then not really acknowledge that in any way. It would be niche, but it would certainly be special. Yeah.
00:03:52
Speaker
But yeah, I think it was wise for her to eventually go back to something like, actually, I don't quite fancy being re-traumatised in that particular direction. yes did enjoy that conversation think it was with victoria was around then that charity was asked who the father would be and she'd be like jacob or whoever think she was like she's like she simply didn't care it might as well be jacob it does mean nothing to me and also think we maybe acknowledge this um you texted me about it but we haven't said on the podcast yet is that we literally predicted this like
00:04:29
Speaker
It's true, you did, didn't you? Yeah, I said, i think maybe out of some sense of guilt, charity will end up volunteering to be the surrogate. And here you go. And here we are. So that's further proof about the telepathy. Yeah.
00:04:43
Speaker
is it's Maybe it's because I live so close to the Emmerdale Studios. It's just like it's in the air around here. And if more people who live nearby watched Emmerdale, they too would probably be predictable. Yeah, maybe you just unconsciously saw pregnant charity just like walking.
00:04:59
Speaker
I mean, I guess Emma probably wouldn't be wearing like a pregnancy bump out and about in the shops, but... No, unless the actor actually is pregnant and this is their kind of strange way to bend the plot into reality. I was thinking when they were like, there's no one else who could do it. And was thinking who else potentially could do it. And I realised there's actually very few women in their twenty s or even 30s in Emmerdale at the moment.
00:05:23
Speaker
So I was like, the only person I could think of was Steph, who is, you know, the actress is pregnant. So it could have been a lovely way of handling that. That is public knowledge. That is not as gossip, know, just guessing or anything. She has said, pregnant. She has announced that. Yeah, they really could have used her there, although they have no relationship. So and Victoria and also has no relationship with her, so.
00:05:45
Speaker
I mean, she is a dingle, sort of, in as much as Cain is. so what is it? Oh, my gosh, I can't work out the family tree. It's Sarah's great, great grandmother's granddaughter, i think.
00:05:57
Speaker
but Like half granddaughter, because Caleb and Cain aren't also. true. Well, you know, adoptive, let's say. Yeah. Yeah. we faith Faith Dingle is, oh she's not Charity's mum. I don't remember. They're Dingles, is the point. saying But in a much more significant way, they're not Dingles.
00:06:21
Speaker
the fifty I would have loved to have seen a scene where um they asked Steph and she was like, obviously no. like Because but Victoria was umming and ahhing and Steph would be like, I'm sorry, is it Sarah? I don't know who, I'm not we've ever met.
00:06:38
Speaker
So sorry, who who do you think you are? Yeah, but literally, like, who is this? Literally, what is going on? Yeah, I feel really sorry for Mac in all of this.
00:06:51
Speaker
And I think it's kind of a theme in Emmerdale of characters consistently failing to see that the relational difficulties they're having are not really even about the decisions being made. It's about the lack of communication. Oh my gosh, this is very profound. You can tell that you've done a few weeks of counselling.
00:07:10
Speaker
No, it's just literally the fact that Mac probably would have eventually come to terms with it if he'd actually been told about the process. If it had been brought up before she was just like going through any fertile women. Yeah, exactly.
00:07:23
Speaker
But like for some reason she was just a bit like, oh I'll just tell him later. like No, tell him the beginning. He's literally your husband. ah
Unpredictable Decisions and Spoilers
00:07:31
Speaker
If have a bit like, we'll come on to it later, I'm sure, but that terrible list that Kane and Tracy put together of suspects were just random names.
00:07:37
Speaker
I feel like Charity's got a similar list for like potentially non-menopausal women in the area. here And just like, well, Mac's name wasn't on that list and therefore he's, on a need-to-know basis, I'll work through the women who have uteruses and then I'll come to him and let him know it's happening.
00:07:54
Speaker
Uteri? Uterus. I sure use uteruses. Uteri seems... Horrible as a word. It does find vile, yeah. Yeah. um One thing I enjoyed, a small moment in this story, is I think when Charity had said she'd do it before she, you know, all the fallout with Mac, was um Sarah said to Jacob, go and make her a healthy smoothie, directing him to someone else's kitchen. And its ah if I was just in some some random person's kitchen and someone said to me, make a healthy smoothie, i wouldn't have known where to start. It's like, so but if someones even if someone's got like strawberries in the fridge,
00:08:27
Speaker
Those are expensive. if They might not want them all put in a smoothie straight away. I'm trying to stick spinach and hope for the best. I'd have been at a loss. Yeah, I would definitely be in my own head about the whole thing. And mainly because while you're trying to have a conversation in the lounge, do you really want me to put the blender on?
00:08:44
Speaker
i think that seems really antisocial. In an open plan situ. Exactly. With me constantly interrupting me like, just to check, do you like chia seeds? Exactly. And even if you put the smallest hint of banana in there, the whole thing would taste like banana. That can't be good for the baby. simply can't.
00:09:05
Speaker
We're not technically medical experts, but um one thing we do know is that it shouldn't near a woman who's thinking about getting pregnant. The potassium. We had a brief moment of seeing Noah as well.
00:09:19
Speaker
He really just popped back in after the last time we saw him was, I think, when Charity had a go at him, was like you're more of a Tate than a Dingle. And then he just, like, disappeared apparently forever, apart from now when he's like, it's really messed up you're having her baby, and now he's off again.
00:09:34
Speaker
Yeah. Although she did later say that, like, Noah come round to it, didn't she? Which I didn't notice happening, but maybe happened very briefly. Presumably happened off screen. Yeah.
00:09:45
Speaker
I mean, it is... I mean, I don't know where to go with this, because I get Sarah really wanting a baby. I get that it's Charity's decision with her But it does seem mad. It seems completely unhinged.
00:09:57
Speaker
But that is what we've learned to expect from Emmerdale. And particularly from Dingles. I think Ross's reaction, although incredibly insensitive, is kind of where we're all at.
00:10:09
Speaker
It did put me off a a bit there. It's like, don't be too mean to poor Sweet Mac. No, Sweet Mac. He's gone through a lot this year, slurry-wise. And he says he needs a breath of fresh.
00:10:22
Speaker
Yeah, it was it was a shame. And then, of course, we've got the whole Sarah Jacob thing. And this is one thing I will say about this, which has, I, maybe since you last recorded, have got very into watching on YouTube because they now release it on YouTube, which is great because...
00:10:40
Speaker
my ad blocker works on YouTube and it doesn't work on ITVX.
Engagement Surprises
00:10:43
Speaker
I don't get any ads. That's what I should have done when I was trying to watch two and a half hours worth in two hours this morning. It's so true. But because, of course, they have to title it and don't just title it like Wednesday, whatever. They always put a big headline, which means I'm getting spoilers fraud from the off shot.
00:11:01
Speaker
um And the title of, I think it was yesterday's episode, was Jacob asked Sarah to marry him. And at the beginning of the episode, they weren't even dating. So I was like, what? What's going on? Someone needs to feed that back because I always find the quite cryptic descriptions on ITVX really funny because it's just like, John has an issue and Kane sits down.
00:11:25
Speaker
yeah i like so a decision to make yeah they're like desperate not to say anything ah but then the whoever's doing the youtube uploads is just like sure who cares it's like bashing away and i will i want to also feedback to them that not every single one of them needs an exclamation mark like it's okay you see things sparingly definitely an intern who's uh in charge of doing that that's really funny yeah i found the engagement a lot to take in i was already a little bit annoyed that they have taken one of the few like male female friendships in the show and turned it romantic and then he went and proposed and i was like goodness you're really just locking in on that aren't you um but i think they do make a good couple
00:12:12
Speaker
They had been very emphatic, particularly Sarah had been emphatic that they were not a couple and they did not want that. And then to be like, oh no, I have been love you the whole time. Yeah, when she was like, oh yeah, no, I did like Cammie, but I just always knew it was you. was like, it's funny you're saying that because there were many episodes where you really, really couldn't decide between the two. And you were like, I really love them both. Like, I think you're wrong there, but sure. Yeah, she has misremembered.
00:12:40
Speaker
um And Cammy took it very well. Cammy also didn't seem at all surprised they got engaged because i saw um he saw them together and he was like, oh, does this mean what I think it means? And I assumed what he thought it meant was we've decided to start dating again rather than we've instantly got engaged.
00:12:55
Speaker
And he just was like, yeah, it seems seems like something you would do. so Cammy's really taking the whole thing in his stride and that does seem... A little bit inexplicable to me, but also really endears him to me. I love him. I think he's just a bit like, okay, cool, sure. He's got like real golden retriever energy. He's just pleased for them.
00:13:13
Speaker
Yes. And there's not really anyone else, as you're saying, the right age for him to date now, unless it's, of course, Vinny. um But actually, speaking of Vinny, I guess Gabby would also be the right age to be a surrogate, but she certainly has no idea who this family is.
00:13:31
Speaker
I guess Vinny is a dingle, so she's going to become a dingle soon. yeah that could be a lovely way to her to well true that could be a lovely ah honeymoon idea um i tried to say surrogacy and honeymoon honeymoon the same time i said huragacy which could be a fun little portmanteau for our future yes if ever comes up again um yeah I wonder how soon they'll get engaged or do you think it'll be ah get married do you think it might be one of those engagements that just goes on forever definitely well I mean they've gone from not dating to engaged within eight minutes so mean by this I feel like
00:14:11
Speaker
should be the end of next week i assume but yeah probably i assume though if the surrogacy does go ahead that charity will give birth during their wedding so maybe it will be lovely it'll be very on the nose yeah which they do seem to love can we just talk about the fact that um eric has been an idiot the whole way through this oh he is being the worst yeah Yeah, I mean, it is probably because he is ancient and has been since 1993. As we saw, yeah, he's never been young.
00:14:49
Speaker
Yeah, he's just like telling all sorts of people sorts of things that are not his business. Nobody has ah hint of confidentiality in this village. Yeah, and it's it's so rude to say to someone like, I don't want my grandson to be with you because you have a fatal illness. It's like, I can see you might say, I don't want you to get garrett engaged because you literally weren't dating this morning.
00:15:09
Speaker
Or, you know, I'm not sure that he's ready to be a father of that initially, like a child he was not going to have anything to do with. But to be like, I don't want to be with you cause you're going to die. I mean, fit him yeah, he's suddenly got less than 20 years left. So is he going celibate now?
00:15:25
Speaker
Well, fingers crossed. but um i see hope But is he going to stop dating anyone just because he's going to die in the next couple decades? I doubt it, Eric. I doubt it.
00:15:37
Speaker
Yeah. But I thought she had a good response of being like, Hey, how long were with Val? Yeah, we love Val. He did say Val was the best thing that ever happened to him which is quite galling for his all his previous wives and indeed his son. But what he'd say except for and then didn't fill in that gap. So i guess ah maybe that's something we can leave for.
00:15:54
Speaker
leaves about of yeah like can just It's like a own adventure story at point. A little side note, which might segue into the other main story, if you depending on how much you've got to say about this one, was at the celebratory drinks, I very much enjoyed Well, I very much enjoyed a Victoria being like, really? And then also Victoria, Jacob, Sarah and Robert sitting together with Robert clearly hating every moment and not being remotely interested in these people.
00:16:22
Speaker
Yeah, Robert being like, I know that I am apparently related to Sarah, but I have no interest in her life. yeah yeah And I thought that was sort of our whole vibe. Like we've never acknowledged her before despite sharing her surname. So I don't know suddenly we're the first to know about this engagement.
00:16:38
Speaker
Yeah, true. um I'm just really enjoying Robert in general. I think he's doing a great job of sniffing things out and, yeah guess, taking them to the police. I would go so far as to say that he's a better crime fighter than the crime fighting duo of Tracy and Kane.
John's Emotional Struggle
00:16:53
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it was kind of cute seeing them like team up, write a list and drink some tea. And it was nice that they, yeah, forgot their differences and carried on working together. But...
00:17:06
Speaker
they are actually completely useless. And it was literally, I mean they obviously they had John's name on their list of random people what they thought of, but the things where they just crossed people out were like, oh, it probably wasn't them. It's like, I don't know if that's exhaustive journalism detective-ism detection.
00:17:22
Speaker
um ah And again, I liked that they joined up like you. And i I liked that one episode where we had where basically lots of quite tedious storylines were swept under the rug. It was like, Dr. Crowley is gone now.
00:17:34
Speaker
Tracy and Kate's feud is over. i We'll just move on. was good to just cut the wheat from the chaff. me Yeah, it was I think the Nate's funeral...
00:17:45
Speaker
My one sort of takeaway moment really was that Nate's mum cropped up at this point but didn't appear to have noticed that Nate had been gone for however many months it was.
00:17:56
Speaker
Like presumably she hadn't heard from him either. She never came looking for him and then just turned up like really suddenly very involved. And very sure that Tracy didn't kill him based on would say almost nothing.
00:18:09
Speaker
um but mean she turns out to be right she also gave one of of I think the least realistic lines I've heard recently when she walked into the pub and they were all having a jolly time and she said and here's me thinking would be a somber affair like does anyone use the term somber affair in reality maybe only you
00:18:29
Speaker
I could have pictured her coming in and being like, oh, everyone seems really happy that my son's dead or something. But like, oh, here's me thinking it'd be a somber affair. Which is something I might write in a wedding card, actually.
00:18:41
Speaker
Whose wedding would do you think would be very somber? Well, we should all think on, shouldn't we?
00:18:48
Speaker
Yeah, I think Kara's words do mean little to nothing. Case in point, when she went around to Tracy's and Tracy was like, I'm not sure I'm going to able to give my eulogy.
00:19:00
Speaker
And Kara said to her, if you can't speak at the funeral, then that's fine. Like, this is about Nate, but it's also for us. And we have to be strong for each other. which are three completely unrelated and just jointed statements, which mean absolutely nothing. So true. They're like, maybe Cara was like, I've got, I'd like maybe like a couple of weeks worth of story of coming to terms with this. And they're like I think it'd be better maybe if we did that in one sentence. Yeah.
00:19:27
Speaker
who It's just like, this is about us. It's about Nate. Let's be strong. like sure And yeah, she's, she's a i guess, a grieving mother who has almost no interest in her child. She didn't even think to phone him to be like, just checking you've successfully got to Shetland.
00:19:43
Speaker
She's like, well, he's probably fine. He's just moved move to another country. Principality, I guess. I also enjoyed Tracy's in her detection suggesting briefly that it could be someone who lived outside the village who'd done it and then just be like incident no that doesn't seem likely it's definitely someone who lives here yeah and then of course we saw owen yes this lovely to have owen back and it was yeah lovely are we saying he was already dead when john found him or was he on the way to death and john finished tomorrow oh i think he was already dead but could be wrong Then why did he inject him with something?
00:20:23
Speaker
That's true. Maybe he did kill him. I wonder whether they're going to do toxicology reports on the body and be like, this would ah was administered in this time period and then work out that John was in the house.
00:20:34
Speaker
Yeah, they did seem quite reluctant to investigate it in any way. and they are busy. I also enjoyed the police officer just showing Liam the suicide note. It's like, isn' nothing is there nothing confidential in the evidence here? She's like, oh, look, this is fun.
00:20:48
Speaker
Yeah, absolutely not. And then Liam getting back to the surgery and immediately Claudette and John, like, yeah, no, we found the killer. This is all the information. It just absolutely wouldn't happen like that. Does the Hippocratic Oath refer to dead people too? I don't know. but um it would appear not.
00:21:07
Speaker
Certainly not in Emmerdale. Yeah, maybe because they seemed quite keen that John wouldn't actually be a murderer before, that they would just be man's daughter and like all sorts of other crimes related to that. But maybe he actually did kill this guy.
00:21:18
Speaker
And whilst obviously we didn't really know anything Owen, we talked about before about how we didn't love that they just swept under the rug that he tried to like date rape Robert and no one seemed to care that Robert would be very shaken by this.
00:21:30
Speaker
And when Owen came back to the village, they were just like, I'll grow up, Robert, leave him alone or something. So this man had a very traumatizing experience. And yeah, Owen is dead now, which is lovely. But um I don't know if that if the story has been given the seriousness it deserves as of yet.
00:21:46
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like there is still time for them to properly work out. It's just kind of unusual now, isn't it, that Robert's almost trying to ah clear Owen's name of this murder, but isn't saying at all, like, he was a criminal in some capacity, i.e.
00:22:05
Speaker
he just wasn't a criminal in this way. um and yeah he must have all sorts of mixed emotions about it. But I mean... I think what we really know is that the detective and all of the police force are not really doing anything about anything, are they? They're just waiting for random people to be like, I've noticed stuff.
00:22:23
Speaker
look Robert does seem to have solved it completely in a couple of hours, which is very impressive considering it wasn't here for any of it and has almost nothing to go on. But that is what we thought he would do, so. It's true. And I was sad when he seemed to be trying to break Mac in and a Mac was like, I'm too busy with the whole surrogacy thing right now.
00:22:42
Speaker
um because we really obviously we really wanted that team up. Yeah, I was a bit gutted about that, but I think it's probably, i i think it will happen in the end. I think the writers have just put that in there to make us gutted and make us like more happy when it does happen.
00:22:56
Speaker
Maybe, because, oh my gosh, I'd love it so much. know. think that's what's happening. Maybe it would be actual crime-fighting duo rather than Christine Kane. Exactly. um Robert also did some lovely soap lurking this week where you're fully still in clear sight behind a hedge which anyone could see you as they walk past but somehow invisible to the eye.
00:23:15
Speaker
it was just sort of three to four small reads in front of his face. Do we think that Aaron is going to be... like onto him now that he saw him like suspiciously burning stuff at the scrapyard or maybe he'll go through the um the fire because presumably like oh no i was gonna say glass syringes which it did sound like they were glass i'm trying to remember the melting point of glass i think it is like over a thousand degrees oh wow is it gosh ah
00:23:46
Speaker
how hot does a fire get like 600 degrees I don't know anyway I don't know any of these things would there still be glass if someone had asked me what the temperature of the centre of the earth would be I'd have gone like 400 so really don't know but yeah it does seem mean in my past taken unused medication back to the pharmacy for them to dispose of responsibly was unaware that they'd just be burning them at a garage but maybe maybe that is what they do Yeah, and also the fact that like one of the packets of tablets that he was burning was just codeine. I was like, codeine's not suspicious. That's just a fairly strong painkiller.
00:24:21
Speaker
Just pop that back in the cupboard. No one's going to be like, why the heck did you have codeine? A lot of people have codeine. I've got codeine. It's just a confession. as he I don't think so.
00:24:34
Speaker
was left over after my housemate broke her leg. who But no, I do think Aaron, bless him, is... is he's certainly me stupid at the moment like sometimes characters need need to be stupid for storylines to work so he really he really seemed to accept John's totally nonsensical explanation for why had that fire um and also John you could have done that fire anywhere why did you do it at your husband's place of work yeah so true he could have done it you know next to all of Nate's possessions that he also burnt even though they were kind of there were a lot like metal photo frames and stuff that it was like that's never gonna burn away that's just gonna be in a bush you've you've essentially just done fly tipping he's really relying on the police having little snow interest in something exactly yeah John's sort of like wrestling with grief trajectory is quite unusual to me because it it seems that he is like really riddled with guilt not coping at all
00:25:31
Speaker
And then it just took one conversation where he and Paddy were reading out everything that they typed for him to be like, oh, you know what? I guess I can just bury the pain and I'll be fine.
00:25:42
Speaker
Yeah, it's like, Paddy, considering this is your fourth session, well done. You're really like breaking through to people. I did love that twist. where it like so It was obvious when they panned to get the screen that someone we knew would be on the other end and I did not see it coming that Paddy and I loved that.
00:25:58
Speaker
even though it literally had the initials PD on the chat. Did it? for that And I was like, but I didn't, ah to be fair, was like, I don't know if we're seeing Paddy's screen or John's screen when that's on there, but surely John would just be like, wait, maybe I know this person.
00:26:12
Speaker
Paddy's surname is Kirk, or maybe he's changed it to Dingle in one of the many times he's married Chaz. Interesting. He might have he might have changed it Dingle. um But yeah, that is that is curious that his his grief does seem to...
00:26:26
Speaker
um go in spirals. They also enjoyed him at the funeral saying that he loved Nate. When did you love Nate? Like you, everyone knew you didn't even get on. Like no one thinks you killed him, but.
00:26:37
Speaker
You met for like a month and you disliked each other. like Yeah. Where's this is coming from? It's an unusual one. John in general with his ebbs and flows emotionally. And at one point, Victoria is like, oh yeah, he's struggling. Maybe he should help on this kids camp that Harry's on. don't know what anybody needs when they're struggling. Although that equally actually does sound a lot like my life and the sort of things that I do. I was going to say, if anything, that is a go-to view.
00:27:04
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, John would have to pass a DBS and I feel like maybe they'd care about exploring more things about him with a DBS. Maybe that is the plot twist. He applies to help on a kids camp and the DBS check comes back with like some advisories and they're like, wait, did you, did you kill some people? Because that's actually a big, a red flag for us actually.
00:27:25
Speaker
Yeah. bo We won't be having you on the kids camp this year. Sorry about that.
Emmerdale's Story Pacing
00:27:31
Speaker
Yeah. And Harry was on this kit parallelel kid's camp apparently, but also quite keen to go, camp in a field with his uncles. who Like, obviously, I have no wish to do that.
00:27:40
Speaker
Yeah, unusual moves. And I thought that was going to the same camp at first, and she was like, you know that idea we had this morning, he's already gone on that camp. But no, I think he's just got the camping bug. Going back to what you said about Paddy speaking out loud, I did notice that actually Paddy spoke aloud, and that John's voice was in his head.
00:27:57
Speaker
and then he did speak a bit out later. But that was like, that does amusingly seem right to me, because... I feel like Hedy would speak out loud whilst he died. Yeah, true. I will say I was making cheese on toast at the time, so I was only watching, but 100% listening, which is why I didn't notice that.
00:28:15
Speaker
That's funny. So how quickly do you think they are going to close in on John now? Well, now that Robert's fully worked it out, surely it can't be that long. Surely, but they do love to drag things out.
00:28:27
Speaker
It's Someone linked to an article the other day on Reddit, which was about how some soap writer, I can't remember what the newspaper outlawed was, but she's been writing about Emmerdale every week and she was like, I'm writing about the same stories every week and it's driving me mad. it' was basically an article about pacing in Emmerdale, but it also seemed um cry for help from her that she was like, I can't write this again.
00:28:46
Speaker
Although weirdly, she also said in the article that she thought the Belle Tom storyline was well paced and i was like, that story lasted my entire life. Yeah, I certainly can't remember a time when I wasn't aware of it.
00:28:59
Speaker
But she doesn't seem to think of it anymore, so that's nice. Yeah, so true. She's really moved on. Yeah, I really hope he goes. I mean, the next the last week has been quite fast-paced.
00:29:10
Speaker
Maybe it'll be over by the end night. um I think by the next time we record something, the police will have spoken to John, and maybe he will have been taken down. That's my next prediction.
00:29:22
Speaker
Yeah, because I feel like if someone came to you and said, I'm pretty sure that my brother is a murderer, they would at least question them, surely. You would hope so But in real life, the guy who was the flatmate of the Yorkshire Ripper went to the police like three times and was like, people keep dying every time my flatmate goes out on mysterious night drives. And they were like, OK, cool.
00:29:44
Speaker
Really? I didn't know that. Or maybe they spoke to him. ah Anyway, they interviewed the guy who actually did it like a lot times. This is not meant to be a true crime documentary. There are plenty of those about the Yorkshire River and about the failings of the West Yorkshire police.
00:29:58
Speaker
ah Which continues to this day, apparently. I don't know Emmett was in West of Yorkshire or different part of think it's North. Okay. It's not much, too much less to me, I'm sorry to say, but um it's just calm down, be one county Yorkshire. You don't need to split yourself in this way.
00:30:13
Speaker
you summoners
00:30:16
Speaker
i do tell people i live in west oxfordshire because that is our district council so there's something that' something to be said for who does the bins isn't there it's a lovely little quote from you uh i know we're jumping all over the place but couldn't let this episode go without mentioning moira's funeral jumpsuit which was lovely oh i didn't clock that or was it like It was black, unsurprisingly. And I'm trying to come on the fabric was. it had a sort of like silky effect, but not silk, maybe like, don't know, flowy in some way. And she looked great. And it's like, yeah, you I don't know what you've worn to previous funerals because in Emmerdale, I assume we're going to funerals quite often. she's She's probably run through all her black dresses and she's like, going to try this now.
00:30:59
Speaker
and new number. Yeah, she's like, what's an appropriate thing to wear for my ex-lover and also my my husband's dead son? What's the right look for that? And she chose well, I think. chic but also somber yeah um and i guess everyone must have these things hidden in the back of their wardrobe in emidale but good for her you know it's nice when someone has an opportunity to wear something that's in the back of the wardrobe so fingers crossed for more deaths soon so she can bring it out again i'm sure that that wish will be granted in the not-conversed future Yeah, again, joining you with the sort of just random comments that are semi-related.
00:31:31
Speaker
At one point when Cain and Tracy were talking, i ah heard Cain say what I thought was, that was my bowel. But it turns out he said that was my battle.
00:31:42
Speaker
But he was like, that was my bowel. was like, what are you saying? Gosh, and you know, bowels can be a battle, that is true. but And I mean, we've all been there. um But yeah, that amused me. Yeah.
00:31:55
Speaker
ah Well, now we've covered Sarah's story and whole John-Nate thing. do you have Do you have like stray highlights from other stories to add? Yeah, I do, actually. And I think I can't truly be bothered to talk about this sort of land dispute slash sale because I just have little to know. We may have to in our farming section. But I think, yeah, we're probably gonna have to talk about it in the next few episodes. But the main thing that I did enjoy was, although this isn't even the land dispute, this was long before. This was when Joe was trying to convince Kim to invest in the solar farm.
00:32:27
Speaker
Gosh, it seems such a long time ago now. I know, literally. He showed her this presentation and his her main response was, that's a very aggressive font.
00:32:38
Speaker
Yeah, was great. Yeah, I just thought, I have never related to Kim more. Like, that's how I feel so much when I see things that designed by people. I'm like, oh, I truly can't look at that.
00:32:49
Speaker
Yeah. I guess there's some difference between her being businesswoman who actually needs to make decisions and no offence at all to you, who is a businesswoman in your own right, but perhaps for fewer millions to your name. I don't want cast this version.
00:33:05
Speaker
Perhaps.
00:33:07
Speaker
Yeah, so that was that was a nice highlight for me. And yeah, I did just enjoy, i mean, you already said the fact that the whole Crowley Crowley thing was just wrapped up and over and done with.
00:33:19
Speaker
That was since our last episode, wasn't it? Yeah, it was, yeah. um I quite enjoyed the switch when Kim just like got out of bed and was like, I'm on to you, we're going work this out. And then Knifey Sean gets involved. and it's so It was satisfying. I liked that.
00:33:38
Speaker
Yeah, it did seem sort of an inevitable. we need I sort of so assumed when we hadn't seen her be injected on screen that she had not been injected.
Business Ventures and Horse Riding
00:33:46
Speaker
Oh really I didn't. See you're just so good at you just get soaked in a way that I never will.
00:33:51
Speaker
if You will i'll just give it another couple decades. Yeah I was very relieved her storyline was it because it was so boring and Carolee was such a tedious man but but I guess all of the we will maybe we'll mention it in our Has Savine Farming thing but I'm increasingly confused by what Kim does.
00:34:07
Speaker
i know we've mentioned that before. Yeah. What is her job? Is she like a venture capitalist? Is that what she's doing? Is she just investing in different things? I don't know if it's because we both started watching 2 recently and her job was introduced earlier, but it does seem that she just does management of something we don't need to know what and has a lot of money.
00:34:30
Speaker
and it's absolutely vital to her that she has some pathetic little field somewhere as part of her business empire. Yeah. Yeah, unusual moves. I think one of my favourite moments in the whole thing was after it was all over and she was like, Joe, ah don't trust you anymore.
00:34:47
Speaker
And he was like, I can earn your trust. And he said, like, I promise this will never happen again.
00:34:54
Speaker
think it would actually just be quite unlikely for it happen you the whole stealing a kidney the doctor turning on you the doctor also trying to seduce kim to get her money and then him trying to get her to invest in a business which is actually giving money to the like it's it's a pretty easy promise to keep yeah and yet who knows if you will Can you imagine if the exact same thing happened in a year's time and she's like, but you promised it wouldn't happen again.
00:35:30
Speaker
That'd be so funny. Uh, my first highlight was, also around Joe impact, which was, Now, I will admit, i have never ridden a horse, but that is something I think I have in common with the actor who played Joe.
00:35:42
Speaker
because The scene where he was riding a horse whilst rushing Robert, he looked so nervous, and and it was like so rigid with, I would say, possibly terror, that he's like, has this man ever ridden a horse before? Whereas I was watching it like, wow, he obviously knows how to ride a horse. I mean you were looking at that, I assume, outfit he was wearing, but...
00:36:09
Speaker
He was very um upright and I feel like posture is a big part of horse riding. that I've ever really taken much of an interest in it, but they always seem to be very alert.
00:36:23
Speaker
Yeah, he looked to me like he was always in moments from falling off or the horse stampeding away. It just looked very awkward to me. He does certainly own skin-tight horse-riding clothes, possibly made for an eight-year-old. He was like, I will call this jazz. The Jodhpurs were very tight.
00:36:39
Speaker
I wonder if that was intentional or not. I mean, it was certainly intentional on the behalf of someone, maybe not the character, fan service, I think they call it.
00:36:50
Speaker
Yeah, it was a lot to take in. certainly had a long, lingering shot of him from behind in the very tight things.
00:37:00
Speaker
Do you have another highlight? Yeah, lots of small things actually. i really liked that um we saw Ross order a coffee and his coffee order is a latte.
00:37:11
Speaker
That was a surprise actually. I was expecting him to be like, well I didn't really know much about coffee but whatever the like bog standard thing is. I feel like he would probably just either order a cup of tea or like an Americano.
00:37:23
Speaker
It just really made me laugh. He's fancy tastes. Well not even fancy tastes, it's just like milky tastes. and milk day he's not The milky taste. He's got the taste of um a teenage girl who desperately wants to like coffee doesn't.
00:37:37
Speaker
And so orders like the one that tastes the least like coffee. you think I'd like a latte then? Probably. It's just like hot milk. Okay, I'm interested because as know I don't like coffee but maybe a latte, it could be my thing.
00:37:52
Speaker
think it could be your thing. Yeah. um But no, I would have him more down as like a tea with like five sugars, but also you've got free tea in the, like literally seconds from that building. Yeah, so true.
00:38:06
Speaker
Really on unusual. um But yeah, adjacent to that, as it's happening in the cafe, enjoyed Lewis becoming a co-owner or whatever it is of the cafe. And I enjoyed seeing um Nicola with her own personal set of headphones to block out the world. It's kind of cute, isn't it?
00:38:25
Speaker
I do not know how they got away with the line Brenda is awesome, we're stroking a beaver. It's like, how are you saying that on television? how Should we phone Ofcom? This is Phil.
00:38:37
Speaker
I was really confused about like, are they trying to, like, are the characters meant to be speaking in like, blaendre or is it supposed to be innocent on the character's behalf and we find it funny? But i was like, there's just so much going on here. What?
00:38:55
Speaker
But yeah, I like that Lewis co-owner. Obviously, he's got surprise wealth from nowhere just to make the story happen, which you think would have come up before.
Character Confusions and Anecdotes
00:39:04
Speaker
But yeah, I think it's going to be fun It does seem the sort of thing that might make him slightly sidelined because I can't imagine how many stories they're going to have around like business ownership. But maybe, maybe they'll start buying farmland off the profits from the cafe. There'll be some sort of turf war with Kim.
00:39:19
Speaker
Someone's got to buy that farmland.
00:39:22
Speaker
Heaven knows. Have you got another highlight? Yeah, I mean, its so I guess it's a sad thing for the actors, but I did notice in this couple weeks we had Claudette had a broken arm or like bandaged arm one day. Mary had an injured arm today, which was bandaged up, both of which I assume were the actors having injuries there to write in quickly. yeah,
00:39:43
Speaker
Because of which you you know sometimes see, but I did find it funny that things that normally would have been like some sort of cliffhanger of like Mary falling downstairs, whatever it was. I just have on screen to to account for these injuries. it's you Yeah, it makes it a bit realistic.
00:39:58
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, given some of the things that we're meant to be actually captive by, it does seem strange that their injuries are not mentioned. And Claudette's still running this playgroup. At one point, someone said Claudette has Johnny and could maybe have Frankie as well. Who on earth is Johnny?
00:40:18
Speaker
so Johnny is Vanessa's son. Vanessa has a son. I know. don't think we've seen him for a very long time. Yeah, she had him with, I think, a guy called Kieran, who was only in it briefly. Fair.
00:40:30
Speaker
Oh, wait. I think that might be where I have got up to you on watching the Robbam thing. Because they make everybody think that it was um Andy slash Adam, can't remember which one, um their son. And then they're like, psych, no, it wasn't, it's Kieran's.
00:40:49
Speaker
Oh, yeah, was you she was with Adam, wasn't she? but um she was, and then Adam was with Victoria, and then they broke up for, like, a day, and Adam slept with Vanessa, and then Vanessa was pregnant and didn't know if it was Adam's or Kieran's who she was actually with.
00:41:09
Speaker
oh gosh, because, I mean, both those people are, I would say, significantly younger than her, so, you know, well done, Vanessa, I guess. I guess. Although she is, I think, now... a lesbian. I don't think she's bisexual. I think she's just a lesbian. I could be me of remembering.
00:41:23
Speaker
I've seen a lot of stuff online about whether her and Charity are going to get back together if Mac breaks up with her, but I don't know. yeah they do seem to be hinting about their close relationship, but they haven't talked to each other for the past couple of years. But, you know, this is suddenly their best friend.
00:41:38
Speaker
Yeah, certainly been hints, but no evidence at all. The only final thing I wrote down, if so if you got more, do you go for it, was like, what... It's very similar to my question, what does Kim do? It is what does Dawn do? And I know we've asked that before, but she seems twenty four seven to be having cups of tea in the kitchen.
00:41:54
Speaker
It's like, are you running this bridal thing? Are you, know what's going on? Certainly April seems to be doing more for it than her at the moment. I did enjoy April just hanging up on a client mid-call because her dad walked in. It wasn't even like an emergency. That's so true. My dad can't hear me talking about a gravy fountain.
00:42:13
Speaker
like I feel like you could have continued this call. Also, so I wanted to share that I ah have had previous involvement with a gravy fountain. So sorry to hear that. But presumably not onto fish and chips.
00:42:24
Speaker
No. um It was when I worked for a charity that worked with students and um they wanted to organise a they ah They did organise an event with a gravy fountain.
00:42:36
Speaker
um So it has happened. it was I think it was a carol service which made it all the more diverse. So what were you doing? like Using it like a fondue, popping like cubes of potato in or something?
00:42:46
Speaker
ah Yeah, I think maybe they filled up like Yorkshire puddings with the gravy. I'll have to fact check that with my friend. assume visually quite upsetting. Yeah, not very festive. And like, as Marlon said, like, it's possible, but not advisable, which I also thought was quite biblical. All things are permissible, but all things are beneficial.
00:43:06
Speaker
I was like, he's quoting St. Paul. Exactly. I don't know if that was intentional. I'd love if there's just like some subtle evangelist on the writing team. you should Although I'm not sure if that's necessarily where I'd start with the gospel, but maybe. Maybe.
00:43:24
Speaker
um Something that did also surprise me, given that it doesn't seem to ever have come up while I've been watching Emberdale, is that Vinny has a dog. Yeah, I mean, heaven knows, I don't remember got children, alone who's got a dog, so yeah, but it was a surprise. I just feel like, in many ways, having a dog is as much of an infringement on normal people's lifestyles as having a child.
00:43:46
Speaker
I mean, Claudette's not going to look after those dogs all day, is she? Well, exactly, and it was suddenly just like, he's got to take the dog to the vet, so like... You have a dog? Wow. Cool. Good to know. Never saw that before.
00:43:57
Speaker
but but So where do you live? I cannot write that out. Is he still with his mum? ah Didn't he and Gabby move into one of the places owned by Kim?
00:44:09
Speaker
Oh, maybe. Yes, that's right. I do think we've seen it on screen.
Character Preferences and Departures
00:44:12
Speaker
know so yeah surprise dog and then my only other thing was picking up on us um saying how the nhs is clearly thriving there because everyone gets appointments other than jay couldn't get through but equally who goes to a gp about verruca's Yeah, I mean, I guess it was a persistent one that isn't going away, you might need to if he's tried all the treatment and Yeah, but wouldn't be like, need an appointment right now. It would just be like, I guess I'll have to wait three weeks for my appointment like everybody
00:44:44
Speaker
It was funny. I do like how it's just universally accepted that everyone hates Jay and wants ill for him. He definitely needs therapy. I was thinking this week, I'm so mad that Layla was axed and Jay wasn't.
00:44:57
Speaker
It's like, how did he get of Leila? I love Leila. It's so sad she's not here for this Jacob storyline. But Jay just keeps being there. Stupid Jay is just floating around doing absolutely nothing.
00:45:09
Speaker
so I was saying after we completely savaged Jay last week, no one got in touch to be like, I love Jay. So i think maybe that's universal. Unless, you know, if you do love Jay, do let his name. Yeah, I would love to find someone who actually likes Jay.
00:45:22
Speaker
That would be a real breath of fresh air. the We love the actor, sure, but not the character. Oh, yeah he's great. And it would be a shame, it wouldn't it, if you played such a universally hated character?
00:45:34
Speaker
You'd just want to like do PSAs the whole time. Like, I'm not like that, guys.
00:45:41
Speaker
Right, should we, speaking of character things, should see who we're going to do this week? Yes. We're going to Matty Barton. Oh, that's nice. Quick thoughts? Well, first thoughts, they have to quick.
00:45:54
Speaker
My first thoughts are he's a kind soul and he's been through a lot.
Matty Barton's Role in Emmerdale
00:46:00
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like he has a very like steady role in the show in a way that um you might not expect given that... Like, you know how we always say...
00:46:11
Speaker
sometimes when people's like other halves die they're a bit lost in the show but like that's definitely not true of him in that yeah he's so involved in the farm i think he's very loyal he did get over this is something i was thinking about recently he did get over the whole kane ruby affair quite quickly in the end after being like i never want to see kane again it kind of felt like just like two episodes later it was all fine all it took i guess was a limo crash yeah pla perspective i suppose really put things into perspective yeah i sort of don't really see the point of matty now i'm sorry to say like i like there being more bartons but he does does seem a way for and or stray right now and yeah i agree you're just saying the opposite of each other apparently so but yeah i wish i could see matty with your eyes because he does seem to float around and
00:47:03
Speaker
occasionally pop into a scene and be miserable. don't know. I'm glad that you get more out of the character than I do. I just think he's he's nice. He's normal. You need more of that in the soaps.
00:47:16
Speaker
Not everybody has to have super high drama. I'm sure that in the next two months, because everybody does, he'll have some sort of dramatising event. Yeah, I guess I just like him to have a bit of scene where he's just having fun or having a friendly chat someone because always seems slightly miserable or something sad's going on.
00:47:32
Speaker
Yeah, that's true. But does any character at the moment have like just a nice, normal time? Cammy! Oh, Cammy! We love Cammy! Oh gosh, I know you say every episode, but I honestly think the show would be so miserable without him right now. We just need that pressure.
00:47:49
Speaker
We need him. We do, and we love him. But yeah, I mean, I think maybe just get cammy off the farm and get cammy doing something else or like give i'm think there could be a new relationship or something that's always a bit of a tedious like people can't be single and be interesting obviously so don't know maybe because they were talking about adopting before maybe he wants to go down the adoption route but like maybe get like a teenager or something that'd be quite interesting we don't need another baby hearing yeah that could be quite fun i don't know um if the whole like false prison record thing would count against them but um maybe because he was found not guilty eventually of be okay i yeah don't know maybe but yeah interesting i mean certainly a long history in the show so it was uh there and a woman's name original or girl's name i guess originally um not the most interesting character back in the day so we yeah i didn't have a lot to do under that name but um
00:48:42
Speaker
But i I do like the characters from the families who've been there on time. And we love Moira. Well, I love Moira. I don't know about you, but um I want the Bartons to stay like as a strong unit. So like we've got Ross back, like we've got Lewis in, but it it's good to have one of Moira's actual children in the mix as well.
00:48:58
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. Good to have a little bit of sort of blood relatives in there. a Yeah, nice. Well, I guess we'll just have to see which of us gets our way of using the best out.
00:49:11
Speaker
Yeah, I also wouldn't be sad Matty left. I'm sorry, Matty.
Farming Content and Podcast Conclusion
00:49:14
Speaker
I'd live with that very much. um And our final segment, farming content. There was so much farming content. We saw cows. We saw Moira feeding the cows.
00:49:25
Speaker
We've had a lot of the business side of farming is like dominated, of like people buying and selling and wanting to sell and buy land. Real in-depth of what a tenant farmer is. That was great. Yeah, it's great.
00:49:40
Speaker
I think someone out there must surely be listening to us. They're like quick up the farming content. And I would say, what with Celia presumably coming back at some point, we may to the point when there's too much farming content. We need to find the balance.
00:49:53
Speaker
I don't think there could ever be too much farming content for me. We need to get your housemate, the farmer, on here at some point. Yeah, we should ask her as an expert witness. We should definitely ask her, you know, what she makes of it all, the cows, that kind of thing.
00:50:10
Speaker
Yeah, if she can give us any intel on why this one particular field might be so valuable. Yeah, that would be helpful, actually. Maybe I will ask her, like, what makes a field valuable or not valuable? Why are they fighting for it so much?
00:50:22
Speaker
Please. Absolutely, we need that insight because it does seem like our entire business empire rests on it, which seems unusual. Inexplicable.
00:50:34
Speaker
Great. Well, thanks so much, everyone, for listening. You can get in touch with us at dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com. You can find us on Instagram, dinglealltheway.pod. Been a bit quiet there, Lizzie. Did you get bored? Sorry. yeah Again, I've not done a single thing on it, so it's certainly being hypocritical.
00:50:53
Speaker
But we love hearing from you. I've had a big week.
00:50:57
Speaker
Yeah, we love your messages. Do you raise your review, that sort of jazz? um and yeah i think we might do some more like special episodes as well on older episodes so do you get in touch again if there's things you'd like to see us cover there yeah we love hearing your emails and indeed reading them i read them aloud to lissy over the phone maybe we should start doing that um Yeah, so keep them coming. um And we can't wait to find out what happens next and keep you in the loop with everything Emmerdale.
00:51:32
Speaker
See you next time. Bye. by