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Classic ep: Aaron comes out (Emmerdale 25 March 2010)

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We go back to one of the biggest stories in #Robron history (even though Robert wasn't on the scene) - when Aaron comes out as gay to his father figure Paddy. Simon saw it at the time; Lizzie is coming fresh to it. We discuss the emotions, the tears, and the neglected bedside sandwich.

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Introduction and Episode Overview

00:00:00
Speaker
Hello, welcome to a special episode of Dingle All The Way, where we look back at a classic episode, specifically in this case, Aaron coming out in 2010. I'm Simon, with me is...
00:00:12
Speaker
Oh, sorry. I thought you said, I'm Simon with my ears, but like in a fun pirate way, like... years I'm going to leave all of this in What's your name?
00:00:27
Speaker
My name is Lizzie. There we go. With me ears. With me ears. Oh dear, we're delirious already. it's quite late and I really didn't haven't had much sleep for the last three nights.
00:00:42
Speaker
So I just want to apologise in advance for... I'm just not going to make any sense and I'm probably going to yawn a lot and talk annoyingly slowly. great can't wait it's going to be not only a classic episode of emmerdale but a classic episode of dingle all the way i can feel it coming uh this particular episode is oh i should looked up the date something i've got it it's the 25th of march 2010 series 39 if you want to watch it yourself you can find it on itvx classic emmerdale in the uk and probably somewhere on youtube
00:01:14
Speaker
if you're not in the UK. Yeah, and it might be on Britbox. We don't know if you're in the US. Who knows? We simply do not research these things. And it was back in the day when Thursdays used to have a 7 till 7.30 and an 8 till 8.30 episode rather than what they do now of just like an hour long episode.
00:01:32
Speaker
And so the only one they've put on the classic one is the second of those. So it does sort of begin mid-scene. And that scene is Paddy quizzing Aaron about what he thinks is Aaron having become a drug dealer or a drug taker or like he's seen him with Jackson outside a club and he thinks he's dealing drugs.
00:01:55
Speaker
That's where we're at. Yeah, because I read up on this and I think um prime example of me just like sort of not forming a sentence.
00:02:06
Speaker
um Yeah, he sees Aaron give ah Jackson his number on a bit of paper and thinks that he's giving him like drugs. I see. Yes.
00:02:17
Speaker
So that's how he comes to that conclusion.

Lizzie's Nostalgic Memories

00:02:19
Speaker
A little background from ours is that I watched this at the time when it was on and there is this is new Clizzy. So this was a nostalgic street for me.
00:02:29
Speaker
um And of course, the only previous classic episode we've done is the plane crash where almost nobody was around. But you presumably recognized almost everyone in this episode. ah Yeah, I have written in my notes, who on earth is this man? He looks like he's from Blur.
00:02:43
Speaker
I watched this, like, so originally Simon and I were going to do this episode a few weeks ago, and then sadly he was ill, and then we both just got busy doing other things. So I watched this quite a long time ago, wrote some notes, and I don't know what many of them mean now.
00:02:57
Speaker
I think there was somebody around who definitely looked like he was from the early 2000s rather than 2010. Yeah, that that was Eli Dingle. there go and i forget exactly how he's related to everyone i think maybe salmon sam's brother salmon bell's brother i do i don't remember how he fits and he was sort of a like nerdy well but even i found one of my notes said i watched at the time and i have no idea who the woman with eli was like there's some some polish woman like not clue yeah i think i maybe googled that but um
00:03:31
Speaker
when I googled like who's the east um asian not east asian when I googled who's the eastern european person in emmerdale it didn't really come up with much so yeah i mean it was hard to pick up clues from that single scene um and he left not long after that I think so yeah it was nice to see leila although then wrote in brackets is that definitely leila because she looks quite different that was leila I wrote leila love hearts and did did you know the man she was with no That was David.
00:04:01
Speaker
Oh my word, off of David Off of David Storrs. That's big. Possibly before he even knew that um Jacob existed, I guess, actually, at that point, yeah.

Debating Home Farm Decor

00:04:12
Speaker
Wow. also wrote down that it wasn't called David Storrs, it was called Home, I think was, well, I wrote Home Farm Father, which I think is an autocorrect, and it was like Home Farm Larder, which is a much nicer name for it, but.
00:04:25
Speaker
Although I don't think it is. what was it? Home for was home Farm something. Well, my autocorrect says it was Home Farm Father. So I think we should probably just respect that. We will talk about Aaron at some point. But for some reason, I first need to immediately look up what... How am I going to find this, though?
00:04:42
Speaker
It'll be on the Emmydale wiki Emmydale? Emmydale wiki Emmydale Okay, here we go. Formerly, well, David Schott, formerly Hope for the Best. and That was probably when like Bob Hope Bob Hope? No.
00:04:56
Speaker
Who's Bob Hope? No, somehow. um Formerly but Hope for the Best, David's, Layla's and Wild's Home Farm Fair. Was it Home home Farm Fair? Yeah, but it's F-A-Y-R-E. That's why the autocorrect happened.
00:05:10
Speaker
Yes, and we did see the some of the wilds in the home farm. um That was the blonde woman who was seemingly on ecstasy and her mum who was a murderer.
00:05:22
Speaker
In fact, although at that point maybe he hadn't killed her husband yet, but she did lur she did eventually kill her husband. husband friend Sorry to interrupt, but I've just looked up who Bob Hope is. The American comedian. The American comedian and actor who died in 2003, who I'd never heard of. But anyway, um yeah, I watch i wrote... it Is it a different Home Farm set? It just looked like the door inside was really grand and the banisters were really different.
00:05:46
Speaker
It was very different and very ugly, i thought. Like, it's so much nicer now. I think Home Farm is still quite ugly. It looks like... You know when someone has studied interior design but they don't actually know what they're doing? That's how the Home Farm set looks.
00:05:59
Speaker
i I think the bones of Home Farm are beautiful and the decor is not great. Whereas that, I thought both the actual building and the decor were horrible.
00:06:10
Speaker
Okay, interesting. Do you not think the actual building inside, set like, you know, if you get rid of, i think even if Kim just got rid of maybe like half of the things that were there, it'd be beautiful. Yeah, maybe. just like, we have to put every single like high, you know, opulent cushion we've ever seen on this sofa.
00:06:28
Speaker
Yeah, true. I would truly love to do some set design and like make places that are actually nice. ah But I guess that's not realistic, is it? It's not realistic. There's no way that Mandy Dingle would give her house a nice decor.
00:06:43
Speaker
No, I am, of course, dreaming of the day that Emmerdale one day realised They need to have a character in the village who is a potter and who has like a cool bohemian home and is played by me.
00:06:57
Speaker
Actually, today, if you I promise we will talk about Aaron at some point. I was listening to um Celebrity Side Hustles, which is a podcast that the actors who played David and Layla co-host, where they get usually...
00:07:09
Speaker
ex-Emerdale stars to come and talk about what their side hustle is and they had on Sian Rhys-Williams who played Jenny ah r R.I.P. you may have remembered me being very sad over her grave that we're on the set tour I do remember that yes i'm I mean I mainly remember you being like very emotionally involved in Jackson and I was like I don't know whether we' we're allowed to move on yet Yeah, and I suppose you haven't watched the Jackson era, so yeah don you can't empathise yet. But maybe when you finish Rob Roy, you can go back and watch Jackson and you'll you'll see why.
00:07:38
Speaker
But anyway, she, Shamri Sweeney, is now a potter. And I looked up her stuff and it's lovely. No way. She's in some ways copied you. In other ways, doesn't you exist. But... um We don't need to think about those other ways.

Aaron's Struggle with Sexuality

00:07:51
Speaker
i think it's definitely a submission to Psychic Corner. Hello, somehow.
00:07:58
Speaker
ah But on the home decor front, I did think when we went to Aaron's bedroom, so he's gone up there because he's like all emotional. um And I know at that point he was pretending to be straight. But the posters he chose to do that were weirdly like a sort of vintage poster of Cuba with some woman who looked like maybe like a 1970s poster of Cuba in a woman bikini.
00:08:21
Speaker
Something that looked like it was maybe Elizabeth Taylor also from about 1970. It's like, why is he pretending to be straight in the way that a man might in a sort of lavender marriage in the nineteen seventy I think that says everything we need to know about his current sexuality. He's like, what does straight boys like? I guess this is a woman.
00:08:42
Speaker
yeah Look, you and she's wearing she's wearing a bikini top. And yes, she's got like the most like back brushed hair. is that She looks essentially like Cleopatra. But you know that's that's a type.
00:08:54
Speaker
Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? Thinking about like, was Aaron ever attracted to women? in that Like he did date women. And I mean, he slept with Victoria. and Holly. Yeah, i thought it was interesting what Paddy said in that conversation where he said but after, it was actually before Owen said he was gay.
00:09:08
Speaker
He was like, you're attracting, boy, you should have been beating women off with a stick. And he's like, you just and you haven't dated that much. It's like, quite interesting, that is true. Because i mean it obviously wasn't the the original plan when the characters were written in that he would be gay, but it did sort of fit with the character that had been before that.
00:09:25
Speaker
Yeah, true. Yeah, it's interesting. And I guess, I mean, plenty of people who are but gay or exploring their sexuality have also been with people of the opposite sex. Well, indeed. Yeah.
00:09:38
Speaker
So ah talk us through Lizzie, like what was the conversation initially between Erin and Paddy? Like what was the big, big moment? Sorry, I've just seen the main thing I wrote down is Paddy looks way better without hair.
00:09:52
Speaker
I feel like... Yeah, you're right. We should linger on that for a while. Like, I think he obviously he had hair and that's the way he was born. And so he was just going with it. But like, now that he doesn't have it, I'm like, that looks way better.
00:10:08
Speaker
i do remember the day that it all went, because it wasn't like a gradual thing. It was just like one day he'd like shaved it all off. I thought he had a pea shirt, is he not? Oh, I don't... If he does say, I haven't mentioned that in the show.
00:10:19
Speaker
can look it up. Because it didn't gradually go, it was just overnight. But maybe he was wearing a toupee before that, who knows? Oh no, he doesn't have alopecia. It's lovely that you've written that story for him though.
00:10:31
Speaker
I just kind of felt like it because he doesn't have very prominent eyebrows, but actually now that i'm looking photos of him, he does have eyebrows to speak of. Okay. Right, now let's actually talk about the photograph.
00:10:44
Speaker
What was the lovely question that you asked me to tee me up and then I ignored? Yeah, the question was, like what was the big big moment of their conversation? Well, I suppose Paddy's trying to to tease out, isn't he?
00:10:56
Speaker
Like, what it is that's really getting Aaron, because he's really upset, really angry, really stressed. And then Paddy kind of starts questioning along the line of his sexuality.
00:11:11
Speaker
um and Aaron just flies off the handle and, like, really violently beats him up. Yeah. And did you know that was coming? How did he feel when that happened? I had no idea that was coming. I was really thrown. And I think I was, I, from like the snatches I've seen in old episodes, really loved the dynamic between Aaron and Paddy and the way that he is such a father figure to him and just like shows him so much love and care and like grace really when like Aaron is really horrible to him and he's still there by his side
00:11:44
Speaker
And so I think, yeah, it really threw me. i was like, oh my word, he's actually, like, what if he really injures him? But then I think, yeah, Aaron maybe needed that to then kind of pivot in the conversation and say, like, look what I've done to you. Like, I'm not, I'm not coping with this. I'm like, I'm so angry about all of us. And that maybe that vulnerability leads him to finally talking about, yeah, the fact that he,
00:12:09
Speaker
is attracted to men and, but it's it's interesting. It's so, he's so guarded and he's got so much like internalized homophobia and therefore shame around it.
00:12:20
Speaker
Like he says, like, I can't be gay. Like I hate them. And he he says about how he's like beaten up gay people at school and he's like, I'll never be one of them. So he's so like entrenched in this horrible, like homophobic narrative that he's then trapped himself in shame from it, which,
00:12:37
Speaker
Yeah, it was I don't think I necessarily, because I've only watched Emmerdale more recently and obviously seen him as like an openly gay character. ah don't think I was necessarily expecting him to be so anti it from a like, I personally don't like like gay people.
00:12:57
Speaker
I thought it would be more of like, it oh, no, other people aren't going to like me rather than so actively like this. can't I'm against that. Yeah. um And in fact, interestingly, when he's like, I kicked a boy's head in for that, that boy, years later, like a few years ago, came back into the show as a guy called Ben, who he then dated. and then RIP Ben, he got murdered by serial killer. No way! But they were able to heal from that rift. but Because i aaron didn't recognize it was really moving actually Aaron didn't recognize him when he got a job at the and Aaron started like flirting with him or something and he was like you honestly don't remember who I am do you like you made my life a misery and it was quite sweet to see like how he you know they could heal from that again until R.A.P.
00:13:40
Speaker
Yeah he wasn't the best actor bless him so it's not as moving as it could be but but uh and I did and I'd stopped watching by the time he actually got murdered but um but but that was uh Manpreet's sister killed killed him off in her little spree But yeah, even though obviously I'd seen this episode before, I knew that Aaron was going to start attacking Paddy. I was still so shocked by even again, even though i knew it was going to happen.
00:14:03
Speaker
And then two things after that, when Aaron walks back in and Paddy's just so scared and like scuttles away from him on the floor. um And then also of seeing Paddy's face with like the blood across him. Like the makeup was really well done. Like even where they put it, like you could see that he'd been worked like the bloody gash like where his glasses would have been was really thought really well done in quite like shocking but not gratuitous way like sometimes things happen in soaps that just feel a bit stupid and over the top like people kidnapping each other and threatening to kill each other and all these things whereas this felt like something that could happen but also would be truly shocking and you won't have seen it but like in the next episodes like marlon is really like worried about why he looks like that and works out that arun beat him up and is but doesn't know why and after you probably won't tell him because he doesn't want to out him and
00:14:51
Speaker
And I remember Marlon being like, you're essentially being like a battered wife in this situation. So it was like, it was a real thing. like Didn't just like disappear after that episode. But yeah, so

Paddy's Forgiveness and Support

00:15:00
Speaker
shocking. But then also obviously gives Aaron or Danny a good chance to show off his crying when he comes back in and he's so apologetic. And that is, I just thought, yeah, that beautiful fatherly relationship between Aaron and Paddy, which we see sometimes now, but we didn't see for quite a long time.
00:15:16
Speaker
was just so precious. And i love that they gave that Paddy that role as the one he came out to. It could have been his mum, could have been Kane, but it was like it was really sweet that it was someone like Paddy who was gentle and maybe it didn't pay off because he would like Aaron would never have beaten up Kane.
00:15:31
Speaker
and but So he like Paddy suffered from that gentleness. But yeah, thought it was really beautifully done. It wasn't two-hander, obviously, because we were like, all over the place and these these are other sort of random stories but but it felt a bit like that yeah yeah I found the fact yeah the fact that he was talking to Paddy about it and Paddy's reaction to it just really moving and yeah I think there was something in this that's hardwired to like respond to stories of like forgiveness and grace and that this is really like one that yeah I was like wow this is so moving and like especially Paddy talking about that um
00:16:09
Speaker
the narrative of like I used to find you so difficult when um like he was first with Chaz and was like you made my life hell and like I really resented you but like you are the best thing that's come out of that relationship now i was like oh I just love this so much and it made me really sad that Aaron and Paddy barely interact now like I don't know what the writers have done in letting that slip because it's got it's a relationship with like so much history And it could have been a relationship that they really draw on when Aaron is struggling now and they just don't, which I think is really sad.
00:16:44
Speaker
Yeah, they definitely need to bring that back. And it's like, it's good that he's got a better to relationship with his mum and all that sort of thing. But... But um yeah, there was something so lovely about it. And yeah, Paddy said such wise things. Although one bit I did think was less comforting. It was basically like, are you really going to go through a life without falling in love?
00:17:02
Speaker
And here's a great example was the number of women who'd had affairs from him. And he's like, some sort weird homily on being constantly heartbroken by women who don't love him back. It's like, yeah get what you're saying, but if anything, that's popping Aaron back in the closet.
00:17:15
Speaker
It's so true. Yeah, i thought that was interesting as well. Like Paddy saying like, Don't you want to fall in love? And then Aaron's response was like, it's not like that. Like you can tell that Aaron's kind of like his own homophobia and shame around that.
00:17:30
Speaker
It's like, I'm never actually going to be in a relationship with a man. Like, it's not like that. It's just that like, I do these things. And then Paddy responds by saying like, well, it starts out fun and then it it ends up as more. And I just thought it was really interesting because that's exactly what happened.
00:17:44
Speaker
with Robert and then also what happened with John is that it started out as like oh this is just like fun and I can like keep it in this compartmentalized box in my mind and then it ends up as more and I think I wonder if we're gonna see that with Aaron and Robert the second time around now of them just being a bit like oh we're just gonna like dip our toe in and it'll be fine and then it'll be the main event Yeah, and going back to the internalised homophobia thing, obviously this was not planned at the time and not done for years later, but it does really work well with what happened in these episodes that Aaron was dealing with the fact that his dad had raped him repeatedly for years.
00:18:18
Speaker
So for him, like a man having sex with a man is this terrible, terrible thing that happened to him. That's his like frame of reference for That's true. And you could see why he'd be like, I can't believe that I'm attracted to men after that happened to me.
00:18:31
Speaker
Yeah. but Yeah, and obviously... it's unrelated to reality, but you can see like why that might play in his mind. And obviously, again, we're sort of giving life to things that happen to the character that had not been decided, but you can see it does work where you'd be like, I can't tell Paddy that that's too much now, but this is already far more than I thought I was willing to share.
00:18:50
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. and like And that deep-seated sort of shame that Aaron has over his sexuality. and then also, yeah, that kind of ends up being that he's so ashamed of his anger and how uncontrolled that anger is as well. And I just thought it was really moving...
00:19:09
Speaker
of Aaron basically giving Paddy the chance to get rid of him and him being like I'm just gonna leave because like I can't control myself and you deserve better than this like you don't have to be around me um but Paddy's still saying like no want there's nowhere else I want you to be like we're gonna work through this yeah also it's interesting in the list of people that Paddy had said he was in love with which was was it Emily the first one one of the who i don't know much about I think he was married to her for a while and then Lisa so Mandy and Chaz and then he went back to Chaz and then back to Mandy so like he's yeah locked out flip-flopping there he's just like I've made a shortlist and I'm just on repeat I guess I found the people I can be in love with and I will just keep on working through them and you know nice that he's still with Mandy after all of that oh yeah truly
00:20:06
Speaker
Something that did sort of take me out of ah the emotion of it was that this random sandwich on Adam's bedside table that was apparently had apparently been there for hours and stayed there throughout the rest of the day.

Realism in Set Design

00:20:17
Speaker
but i can't say noticed it is at all. But I was quite distracted um by the set. Because I feel like it was filmed in 2010, but it kind of felt way older.
00:20:29
Speaker
Like it felt, everything felt more solid. And I was like, was this still filmed in Esholt? But it wasn't. It was definitely like a set. But like the walls looked real and and it just felt like more grounded and more realistic than a set.
00:20:43
Speaker
Like the way that he just like left a bedroom and did genuinely seem to be at the top of the stairs. I don't know what you thought. That's true. I wonder why, because you would have thought they'd make them look less realistic over time, but maybe maybe all the like new lighting or something has made it harder to... Yeah, I don't know. it just kind of like, you can definitely just tell the rooms they're sat are not real, other than Marlon and Ronan's. Although I think that is, because that is a real one, isn't it?
00:21:08
Speaker
The one is actually a cottage. Interesting. That one, it just all felt like solid. It was really believable. It was also your first taste, I believe, of the old theme tune, slash graphics. Oh!
00:21:19
Speaker
I don't remember that. yeah Maybe. Let's wrap wrap that up. Really sorry about that. Because we didn't get like the initial theme tune because when it was the second 30 episode they never did the theme tune. They just went into it. Because I mainly remember being like oh wow the bits just before and after the ad broke are exactly the same.
00:21:41
Speaker
Oh, that's what I meant, and they're not exactly the same. Okay, cool. It's a slightly, like, I don't know, weirdly, like, flatter theme tune. It's probably not actually flat, but it it feels flat.
00:21:54
Speaker
And then it's just bit for more of a dirge than it is now, but you only saw, like, the da-da-da sort of bit rather than the full, like, theme tune. um Yeah. Is it just sort of, is it a plagal cadence at the end? Yeah.
00:22:07
Speaker
I simply couldn't tell you because do not know what that is, but I believe it. My GCSE music. Not certainly that. did do my grade 5 theory at some point, but maybe we'll skip past those. I never bothered. I just repeatedly gave up on doing exams beyond grade 4 because I couldn't be bothered to do grade 5 theory. Fair enough.
00:22:28
Speaker
I did fail my grade 8 piano, so in some ways I was grade 8 standard, in some other ways I was just shy of it. I'm so sorry to hear that.
00:22:38
Speaker
97% of the way to grade 8 at some point. I'm proud of you. No one really plays instruments in Emmerdale. Discuss. So true. Why is that?
00:22:49
Speaker
Why has no one got piano stuck in the corner? Who do you think would be most likely to play an instrument in Emmerdale? I can definitely see like Rona would have learnt the violin at some point. She has that vibe. Oh yeah. And Mary I think is a flautist.
00:23:01
Speaker
Oh yes. Except you know she probably doesn't have the wrist strength anymore but one time that would have been her thing. Joe Tate was forced to have piano lessons against his will. Maybe that's his will and arc. That's why. Maybe. I can i mean, as someone who was forced to have piano lessons against my will, I can certainly see it.
00:23:19
Speaker
um I've constantly been kidnapping other people's organs on account of it. but doesn there's an organ piano joke there if we can like work hard oh yeah no that'd be good I mean yeah oh slip it in now cut it in and be like piano lessons more like organ lessons I don't you can do that you're you're editing this episode so do what you like it's so true I can literally do whatever want um okay final instrument submission because think that John is definitely the person
00:23:53
Speaker
who like has an acoustic guitar and sometimes gets out parties and everyone's like, oh, can you not? But we can't really say that. Oh, those people are the worst. and And I will say this for Moira and Mac. I think both of them would heartily resist playing the bagpipes under any sex.
00:24:10
Speaker
Yeah, they like sometimes enjoy them at a distance, like at the Edinburgh tattoo, but they would never have the wrong farm. They had an uncle who played it and they were like, that's that ruined our childhood. So it's a pass.
00:24:22
Speaker
I think that Mandy probably um thinks she's a really good singer and has maybe had some singing lessons, but to no avail. I'd love that. There was a church choir back in the day. Maybe there still is one.
00:24:33
Speaker
um i believe Laura was running at one point. I think Claudette's probably got quite a good voice, but it's like a bit of a wavery soprano and she doesn't know how to project it very well. But I think she can play the church organ when push comes to shove.
00:24:46
Speaker
Of course. Yeah. organs something you saw the organ joke call back to the organ thing earlier but more organs than joke tape there we go there we go I think sometimes you just describe the joke you were going to make it's as good as making an actual joke especially when you do it multiple times I definitely think that Moira's farm would have a piano somewhere that no one knows how to play but it's just for some reason stuck in a corner from the previous owners of the farm yeah slowly going out of tune
00:25:18
Speaker
Yeah, like pigeons festering in it. somewhere Yeah. Anyway, anything else? Read this episode. um My cat is on the move and doubtless all over the microphone right now.
00:25:31
Speaker
I... Just one more thing. I don't think I'd realise that Aaron actually probably liked Adam. I thought that he... I mean, because I've literally not watched any of it. I thought that he just tried to kiss Adam and then it was like awkward.
00:25:45
Speaker
And that was that. Yeah, because I... had remembered it that way i didn't think he really did like adam that much but this conversation did imply that he did didn't it well paddy implied it get for sure paddy was like is that the first guy you've liked and i sort of was expecting aaron to say like oh no i don't like him like that but maybe i'm misremembering but certainly if he did it didn't last that long okay fair yeah maybe it was just sort of a plot device rather than actually being real because yeah i was like i didn't really get that impression i thought they were just pals and he was confused but Yeah, a classic Cammy Vinnie situ.
00:26:16
Speaker
Exactly, and we're seeing that play out. Well, we just, poor Cammy. But um yeah, obviously once you've met the charisma charismatic Jackson, no more thoughts about him in his head.
00:26:29
Speaker
And why should there be? We love Jackson. R.I.P. I did never meet him, but you certainly did love him. It was amazing the number of people mentioned in this episode who do go on to die. ah Who's here with like, oh, sorry, Holly. Sorry, Jackson. Sorry, unnamed boy you beat up at school. Like all all of you are going to die.
00:26:52
Speaker
yeah everyone in Emmerdale does love dying. yeah such a such a hobby for them actually yeah but i don't think anyone that we saw on screen has died yet no one i can think of say that's a but unless this unknown polish woman dies we don't know yeah or the man from well probably presumably one of the people who was sort of on drugs and home farms dead by now um no we really know oh yeah sure leila is dead Layla of course Layla in my heart she isn't I'm just refusing to acknowledge it yeah well I mean Roxy Shadihi I think that's how you say her name is certainly alive and well and doing a lot of yoga near me and of course that celebrity side hustle podcast aforementioned of course which one day I will be on as yeah I'll be talking about the side hustles from my career Everdale
00:27:44
Speaker
exactly I mean you are lining up all the side hustles first which is good yeah I am I am good at that my life is all big side hustle it's hard to know what the main event is
00:27:56
Speaker
very good um yeah so obviously this was the beginning of well maybe not the beginning but like very like central to a very moving storyline of uh Aaron coming out gradually coming to terms sexuality lots more to come but I guess I'm whatever next classic app we go to may well be something

Listener Engagement and Requests

00:28:15
Speaker
completely different. So do let us know dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com if there are any classic episodes that you would like us to cover.
00:28:23
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um We say classic as long as we're in the past. It doesn't necessarily have to be so like super long ago, but maybe maybe at least a few years. We've had a lot of requests for the Hotton Bypass Crash Week.
00:28:35
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Yeah, and I'm so keen if we can find it anywhere. we just need to find it. I couldn't find it out on YouTube, but it must be out there somewhere. Yeah, if anybody has a link, like, don't just tell us it's on YouTube. We need yeah URLs.
00:28:46
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Yeah, like, we need being spoon-fed. Yeah, we're clearly not able to find it on our own. And, know, if someone has taped it, just pop a VHS in the post.
00:28:58
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Yeah, truly. I'll find a way to play a VHS, even though I don't have a television. Yeah. um Yeah, that was a bit scattergun. are both, it seems, ah brinking, but I hope you enjoy enjoyed this little look back at Aaron history. Oh my gosh, didn't he look different and young, a little baby?
00:29:19
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um my word, I actually wrote, Aaron looks way older than a teenager, but very young. Also really good looking. Yeah, there's no... easy way to say that his heartthrob days were 2010 I think it's very interesting because he was really good looking then and Robert is really good looking now whereas I didn't find him at all attractive pre this year whereas i do think that he looks exactly the same and that's lovely of you i just think he looks really really young pre-prison and yeah pre-pris youth yeah where somehow aaron has maybe now gone to prison it's just shocking yeah so true
00:30:07
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So we will be back very soon with a recap of Modern Day Emmerdale. And that's that's it for today. That is it. Thanks so much for listening along.
00:30:17
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We love you Speak to you soon. Bye. Bye.