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Robron reunited?! (Emmerdale 18 August 2025)
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It's a SPECIAL - nay, an EMERGENCY - episode, as Robert and Aaron finalllyyyy reunite. Lizzie and Simon take a look at a huge moment for #Robron and chat about what the implications might be for the future.
We'll be back with another special ep on Aaron coming out (March 2010) before resuming normal programming next weekend.
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Transcript
Introduction and Purpose
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello everybody, my name's Lizzie. I'm Simon. And we are the Dingle All The Way podcast and we know that we normally do episodes every other week but we were so excited about the recent Robberon developments that we thought we would just do a little mini episode this week and talk about how, yeah, how things are changing at last. We've been waiting for this.
00:00:29
Speaker
yeah I did describe this to someone at work today as an emergency podcast, and I think that is the correct terminology. Yeah, whereas I started a new job like two weeks ago, and I'm trying to like ease them into the fact that am as obsessed with Emodel as I am.
00:00:45
Speaker
but So I did not tell them that's what I was watching in the corner of our office with my headphones in at lunchtime, but I was watching it like, oh my days, I wish I could share how exciting this is with somebody.
00:00:58
Speaker
Yeah, it's a lot of backstory. I was trying to explain to someone else at work. And was like, so yeah Aaron and Robert need to get together. Aaron currently married to Robert's half-brother. Robert's half-brother is a murderer. Robert is also a murderer. But but in a better way, I think. In a fun, cool way. Like a vigilante way.
00:01:16
Speaker
And she just stopped me with like, are you saying Aaron or Aaron? It's like, okay, we we haven't got time for this. This is so nice. No questions, just listen.
Robron's Relationship Dynamics
00:01:27
Speaker
um Yeah, so for those of you who are for some reason listening but haven't seen it, um today,
00:01:34
Speaker
i e Monday the 18th of August, we saw after quite a long and drawn out build up that Aaron and Robin... Robin? Robin?
00:01:47
Speaker
all and she's she's rec beside herself i'm just i'm in hysteria aaron and robert um finally kissed and then indeed slept together and they were yeah they ended up having conversation about i i think where they left it seemed to be that they're kind of saying this will keep happening and we'll just see how it goes is that your read on the situation Yeah, something like, should let's just enjoy it for what it is or something. It's like, okay, that's not, and they suddenly, neither of them looked like they had regrets. Neither of them were like, oh my gosh, we shouldn't have done this, scurrying away. Because I did sort of, course, you know, we've both seen in spoilers that something was coming and I had sort of assumed it would be Robert being like, oh great, let's go back together. And Aaron being like, oh my gosh, I shouldn't have done this. But that wasn't where it was. And that made made me happy that we weren't going down the sort of stereotypical soap route there. It's more like,
00:02:41
Speaker
there was consent before, there was consent after, yeah. Yeah, i quite enjoyed the way that Aaron referred to his own husband, John, as commitments.
00:02:52
Speaker
It was like, yeah, I mean, you need to get your head sorted out and I've got commitments. And I was just like no, it didn't feel very emotional at all. It was just like,
00:03:04
Speaker
he is just a commitment to me but um i thought it was interesting like you said of like there wasn't the normal expected dynamic of like I feel so bad about this and like tortured which is kind of similar to how Robert used to be with Aaron but like he would get quite defensive and be like no I do love Chrissy but it wasn't convincing it was much more like this is never gonna be real because like I'm married and you need to remember that But it never felt like a real, I don't know, it never really felt like he was actually emotionally involved from my perspective anyway.
00:03:38
Speaker
That's so true. And yeah, i I think we talked on an early episode about how Robert had really supported Aaron through the revelation about his dad raping him. And we wanted Aaron, or at least I said I wanted Aaron to be there for Robert and they have that emotional connection. And i thought it was I thought it was quite lovely the way they did it of Aaron...
00:03:58
Speaker
Firstly, i think it's the first time Emmerdale has ever acknowledged that the sound happening within a house can be heard outside that house. And in fact, and in fact unclear what because he had lot of crashing and banging and when we came in he was just like opening and shutting drawers essentially he was throwing like vases around smashing mirrors come he did he did a vase he did one vase and then he did a vase after aaron was already at top of the stairs and i'm like and then because i was expecting to see a lot more things like destroyed in that room full-scale carnage was on your mind
00:04:31
Speaker
Because I was like, I had like five different crashes and maybe it was just like pushing the bed against the wall or something.
Village Life and Safety
00:04:36
Speaker
Because i mean, moving furniture around Camry Nosy. Anyway, it doesn't matter. It got him up there. ah Everyone thankfully lives unsafe lives with their doors unlocked, etc.
00:04:45
Speaker
um but To be fair, they're in a village. My door's always unlocked. And yeah, they came and like supported to him. He's like, I'm here now. i mean it was like it's okay it's me or whatever i got i can't remember the words he said but they're sealed into my heart metaphorically yeah i can't remember what he said either that he he called him robbie which i thought was sweet um and then he was like it's okay i'm here or something we should have looked this up before we started recording a podcast some people have probably there'll be at least one person listening who's already got a tattoo of it so yeah like and i'm sure people have been putting it on cursive font over pixelated photos of their faces i hope so properly see your tone we know that will be my phone background before today um yeah and i should say that dingle all the way is officially an anti-adultery podcast but that is our party line
00:05:41
Speaker
And yet. and And yet here we are. I think it's interesting um the way that they've sort of sown the seeds for this because I think, I don't know if you feel the same Simon, like we have always felt like there's absolutely no chemistry between aaron and John anyway.
00:05:59
Speaker
i think Aaron has been acting more and more visibly like disinterested in John or like not like fully anti, but just a bit like meh about him. And he's getting more vocal in that now in terms of like,
00:06:13
Speaker
telling John not to bother going over when he was like oh I'm gonna have to go over and like make sure that Harry's okay and Aaron just being a bit like back off like you've said your piece you don't need to keep going i don't know I think he's Aaron's becoming more and more just like oh you're kind of getting annoying now um yeah it is hard to tell isn't it literally actually on account of as you say them never having had any chemistry so it's tricky to know when that chemistry is is meant to be waning Yeah, that's true. um
00:06:44
Speaker
But yeah, it's been lovely seeing, and we've said this before, but lovely seeing Danny Miller just like really acting well. And he had his iconic teary eyes, which were a big part of his acting in like, don't know, in the olden days.
00:07:01
Speaker
And they're back again. Yeah, they very much are his like go-to, aren't they? He's a crier and we love that. um but i also just thought my goodness ryan hawley who who i'm sure everyone knows plays robert just extraordinarily good in these episodes like though look at how broken he looked uh it's just really compelling and actually should really distressing to to see incredible yeah and i think like think he was always a good actor but i think he's just got better this this time around maybe because he's got like some actual emotional depth to work with where he spent quite a lot of time particularly so his early sin just being a bit
00:07:37
Speaker
mean whereas this is just like you can see like we don't yet know what he's been through in prison in full detail i don't know if that's going to come out later there are theories that it's like sexual assault which i think could be really sad but interesting story potentially to go um whatever it was like just the way he wears it in his eyes like though it's weighing him down and you can see i mean yeah you can see why aaron would come and see him and be like i need to take care of it And especially like it's interesting because I'm still steadily working my way through this playlist of
00:08:10
Speaker
youtube videos of rob ron from like 2014 2015 and robert is just so fresh-faced and so like he looks much younger than i think he was as an actor um and yeah seeing how he's aged but not just like physically as in you can like you say it feels like he's got like pain just in the way that he's carrying himself and in the way that he like expresses himself so i think yeah ryan Ryan has really upped everyone's game on Emmerdale because I think everybody is like acting better within
Performance and Character Analysis
00:08:44
Speaker
that.
00:08:44
Speaker
I've just looked up how old he is. he is and is 39. um He is, in fact, like six weeks older than I am. I was going to say, you are 39. I know. He's wearing it better than I am. bless him. Don't sneak that over yourself.
00:09:03
Speaker
I mean, to be fair, I've never looked as good as Ryan Hawley. And, you know, that's okay. We've all got different talents. Mine is this podcast. Yours is everything. is being the topic of this podcast.
00:09:16
Speaker
um But, ah yeah, i um i was I also thought, you know, when John came in and we're just doing his, like, sort of menacing whispering at Ryan, sorry, Robert, being like, with a click of my fingers, whatever, I could get you sent back to prison. Mm-hmm.
00:09:31
Speaker
A, so menacing. B, and I do, of course, regret this, still so much chemistry between the two. I do, of course, hate myself for saying it. But, well, yeah, we have to say what we see.
00:09:47
Speaker
yeah no, I agree. Say what we see. See it, say it, sort it. um Yeah, I think he's got so, so more like, yeah, like you say, menacing.
00:09:59
Speaker
Part of me wondered whether they were ramping up how menacing John was so that Robert would see him for who he is and be like, hang on, you really have just like engineered this and like now you're trying to make me feel bad for it. Because to me it felt so of like, yeah, so obvious that he was just gaslighting him. Yeah.
00:10:20
Speaker
And I also just think it's so evil to like trigger somebody else's PTSD intentionally with loud, persistent noise. unlike And he hasn't, John, struggled with PTSD himself.
00:10:35
Speaker
like Yeah, he was an army medic. He must have seen it all the time. yeah like that's honestly so unhinged. And also, I mean, kind of serves him right. didn't even work because Aaron ended up being the one to save him. That's true. sort of engineered the whole thing. He literally engineered the whole thing.
00:10:50
Speaker
what do you make of Victoria's role in the past couple of episodes? um I feel like the writers have placed her in a bit of a filler role, which is disappointing because I think Victoria's actually got a lot more to her than they're making her have. Like, I think that she would be a bit more wise to it.
00:11:10
Speaker
Although, I don't know, maybe that's, Maybe that's not true because she is literally a mother and I guess that you do just have to prioritise your children. If you hear that something is happening that's not going to make them like at home or it's going to make them unsafe, then you would just like give that person the benefit of the doubt and be like, that has to stop.
00:11:28
Speaker
I think she's kind in offering to pay for therapy. That's true, considering she like works as a part-time chef or whatever it is. it's like that's you know Although I think someone left of that house, maybe Betty left her the house.
00:11:41
Speaker
I might be misremembering. Anyway, ah yeah, I agree. it's you know You can see why she'd want to protect her child above all. It was hard to know with little Harry whether he was meant to be genuinely upset or not on account of him being a child who can't really act because he's a child.
00:11:55
Speaker
So, like i't yeah, was he meant to be really scared? We didn't see that. But I also thought what was really interesting was the way that Robert reflected on that a couple times. So when it while it was happening, he was like, he's fine. And then later that day, he was like, i did I think he was fine. But then to Victoria, way he said, i didn't think it was that bad. It was like, he was like, I just don't know if that's true anymore.
00:12:13
Speaker
Maybe I've lost my sort of grip on reality in the sense I thought it was a really, actually quite nuanced way to like repeat that thought over a couple of episodes. Yeah, that's really interesting. And it definitely shows the way that like John has really got Tim and the way that, yeah, when you when you're already feeling vulnerable and then somebody plays on that vulnerability and makes you question yourself, um the way that those thought patterns establish themselves where you do just trust yourself less and less. I guess we saw some of that with the Belle and Tom storyline, didn't we?
00:12:45
Speaker
Where her just sort of at the beginning being like, no, this doesn't feel right. And by the end, just, yeah, not trusting herself at all. Yeah. Robert, of course, did work out that John was a murderer quite quickly, but he does seem to have put that to one side for
Storyline Developments and Speculations
00:12:58
Speaker
now. guess he's just put it on the back burner in a way.
00:13:02
Speaker
The police simply weren't interested, and therefore, have I guess it's just not of interest. Although, interesting, I know it's not the Robron thing, but the you know the policeman coming over and telling John that they had like ah suggestion that owen didn't kill him firstly like i don't know quite why you just wander around telling very just people who gave evidence that i can see why you might under under questioning be like we've got new evidence but him just be like by the way we've we've we've heard this thing yeah and it's and it's not that someone came in with a pretty convincing argument for why you did it it's more just well who knows why it is we'll find out i guess in due course
00:13:40
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think they would just be wandering up to other random witnesses and letting them know. um i also really think that Kane would have seen through John, you know, when like he was just like, well, Owen, like um he definitely was the murderer, but that's interesting to know.
00:13:59
Speaker
He's like, just so we'll agree, he definitely did it. like that's Like, we're all aware of that. Although, i it it was classic. ah Someone has to pop up to stop the person walking through the door to find the thing he's not meant to find, though, wasn't it?
00:14:13
Speaker
Yeah, but I did enjoy that because I was like, oh my god, he's going to fall walking there. I kind of would have been relieved if he had because then it wouldve just sighed light not sidelined it would have This whole inevitable will they will won't they ever be found out kind of thing. Because I am kind of just dreading all of the ups and downs as they inevitably take in turns to push each other away keep nearly getting found out.
00:14:39
Speaker
Oh gosh, yeah, that is a slightly tedious thing you have to go to with any affair storylines, isn't it? yeah And I hope this isn't indelicate to say, but we've learned already that pushing things around that bedroom can be heard outside. So they were they were very quiet.
00:14:52
Speaker
Afternoon delight. They really managed to keep themselves themselves in a way.
00:15:01
Speaker
And that's lovely to know about two people, I suppose. However, what we must remember is that they don't need to just be not heard from outside. They need to not be heard from downstairs because of the recording device.
00:15:15
Speaker
Although, did you also see sort of big moment where they panned and Aaron was on the phone to John throughout? I thought that John was just ringing him. I didn't realize they were on the phone. that makes more sense.
00:15:28
Speaker
Do you want me to just quickly check? Well, let's find out because I was just like, it was just all going to like answer phone message or something. Oh, maybe that's it Okay, let me just look it up. I thought that he was just calling him and it was like poignant or i meant to be poignant that at that very moment John was trying to call him.
00:15:45
Speaker
That would make more sense because I couldn't see a way of them not like just making it all about the answer for a message and then the whole thing would be over in a couple couple days. Oh, I've just accidentally started the whole episode again. Should we just play the entire episode?
00:15:57
Speaker
No, swipe up to answer. he's just There we go. well like Okay, that makes more sense and I'm glad that you clarified it. for I'm sure nobody else made the that mistake, but um here we are.
00:16:08
Speaker
And I also just got to re-hear Aaron saying, and I've got commitments. yeah That was nice. That's a treat. and But you're right. he said Obviously, this is helpful why all of the angst and indeed the lovemaking happened upstairs away from the baby, the baby monitor, the like, what's the spy cam or whatever, a spy microphone.
00:16:29
Speaker
But they did kiss downstairs and they did like talk about stuff downstairs. That's true. Because they had that whole conversation where it was like, wait, so have you been hiding? Have we both just been like hiding feelings the whole time? and ours but like I don't know if I put it like that.
00:16:44
Speaker
And then something happens and they end up kissing. Yeah, they were up and down those stairs like no one's business. Exactly. Like he definitely would have just like heard them going upstairs. Goodness. And i mean I loved actually the way that Robert was like, I came back for you. I was like, oh, yeah, you did, Robert. I mean, sorry to poor dear of Victoria, who might want to see one of her many. Well, in fact, ironically, the only brother of hers was on the run for murder is the only one who didn't hasn't so far killed anyone. Although I still just don't think that John's actually her brother.
00:17:17
Speaker
i think that's going to come out. Yeah, it's possible, isn't it? And again, because of the intense chemistry between Robert and John, something that I do deeply hope is true. Oh my word, maybe...
00:17:28
Speaker
Maybe they'll end up having an affair once Robert and Spineley are back together. then Robert will start having affair with John. You just don't know, do you? Yeah, it's natural and lovely for them.
00:17:43
Speaker
ah um So um this is an episode that I did, like, I think we've both seen some spoilers, so we it was on its way, but I still was like... It was like a breath of fresh air or maybe just like a breath of relief.
00:17:58
Speaker
Like, oh, it's been getting to this point for so long. And it felt, I don't know, we all knew it was coming at some point. But i think I don't think I thought it was going to come this early. I thought we might have to wait until like, we talked about Christmas, didn't we? It's like a reunion.
00:18:11
Speaker
I think, and sorry, you go. It's just, you know, nice that we don't have to wait for quite so long, even though, as you say, it's going to have all the like, a fair narrative now and all all the stuff that comes to that but still it feels feels uh good that Rob Ron is is on the horizon more clearly yeah it's certainly it's certainly i was gonna say it's coming but it has arrived um yeah I think i was expecting to feel really like happy about the fact that they're together and I am in terms of like that's what we've been waiting for but think actually the thing that brought me most joy was when Aaron first like went up there and got him to calm down like that was so moving like him just like I guess the relief that Robert finally felt of like ah you're here and you're like a safe person and like
00:19:04
Speaker
yeah that Aaron is the person who has actually persisted with him and convinces him to stop and calm down in a way that isn't just patronizing like you need to sort yourself out but it's like I know you and I love you and I'm here for you like i think that that for me I was like I just I'm really glad that Robert has someone who cares about him and who sees him for who he is And it's interesting that over the time that Aaron has been attracted to Robert for those years, as you've been watching the playlist, it started off being attracted to his cockiness and bravado. And now you can see he's attracted to his vulnerability and he's like like his honesty.
00:19:38
Speaker
and that is growth It's growth. You're so right. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just really intrigued now to know the trajectory because you're right. It could just be like classic affair story and then it all comes out and we think they then John and Aaron will break up and then they'll be back together with Robert by Christmas.
00:19:59
Speaker
or will it just be completely rogue now? Because John has heard it all on the thing and he might just be like, what the heck are you doing straight away? Or my suspicion is that John's gonna know about it and then act like everything's normal, but kind of be torturous with it.
00:20:18
Speaker
And then eventually use it against Aaron in some sort of blackmailing situation. o Because yeah if he does know all about it, it would be so easy for him just to be like, Robert attacked me with this wrench. And I know that the police simply weren't interested, but actually he's got it very much in his power to send Robert to prison, which you know he's dangling over him now for plot
Future Conflicts and Character Evolution
00:20:40
Speaker
reasons, I guess. But but but you'd really have to have to question why he wouldn't use that ammo if he does know about it.
00:20:46
Speaker
I wonder whether maybe he will do that and then the police will somehow uncover the first half of that video where it's John provoking it. Oh, that's a good point. um My sort of longer term theory is that whenever Robert is, sorry, whenever John is discovered and either they like imprisoned or killed or whatever happens to him, that Robert will be like, okay, we can be together now and Aaron will be like, no, I'm too damaged by this. We can't do it.
00:21:12
Speaker
And there'll be a break for longer before it actually happens. That would be huge. It's like, I maybe need to marry someone who isn't a subject murderer just just for once. Yeah. Just for changes as good as a rest, I guess.
00:21:26
Speaker
Yeah, I think that would break the fan community if we if we waited that long and then it didn't even happen. Yeah, it's only like a soap trope that I do find irritating when they just fling in the last minute. other bit like well this person They're going to date this person for a while. is another block. I don't think we're going to get them dating anyone else, I think.
00:21:45
Speaker
um I hope.
00:21:50
Speaker
We can't do it. We simply can't do it. You can't go through it. um Gosh, yeah. um Where are you up to in the Rob Ron playlist?
00:22:00
Speaker
Such a good question. Not one I can remember the answer to. um I was away over the weekend, so i haven't watched any of it for days. Let me just see. Oh, Robert's hospital. He's been shot and they're trying to work out who shot him. Oh, wow. Yes. What's that? um Ross, maybe?
00:22:18
Speaker
Do we know yet? You don't know yet. Sorry if I spoiled that. I could be misremembering who did it. I don't really know. um Yeah, and so Chrissy's like, oh, I mean, obviously I'm sad, but also I'm not that sad.
00:22:34
Speaker
Lachlan is just like a slimy little worm. Or he's vile, isn't he? Chaz is kind of shaken up by it because she was just stood there when it happened. Paddy lost his glasses, so apparently it's him.
00:22:46
Speaker
and who else? Aaron's obviously in the mix. Yeah, there's loads of people. Nobody quite knows. but And he's certainly not with Aaron, but he's not with Chrissy either.
00:22:59
Speaker
ah interesting. I'd forgotten that there was big gap.
00:23:02
Speaker
Fun fact, Re, Chaz being there to witness it is that later gives her PTSD. Oh, which did seem incredibly shaken by it. Yeah. And it was of those stories where it's like,
00:23:14
Speaker
I get that she would have PTSD, but, you know, it's tip of the iceberg for people who should have PTSD in this village. Yeah, I mean, surely everybody should. Yeah. I know I would. I feel like I do just by watching it sometimes.
00:23:29
Speaker
Oh, dear. So I wonder what might have happened by the time we publish this episode.
Podcast Plans and Listener Engagement
00:23:37
Speaker
and know. So were as we record, Lizzie says, it's the evening of Monday the 18th. We're hoping we're going to get this live tomorrow.
00:23:44
Speaker
to evening but that's a whole other episode maybe the whole thing will be over maybe john will be in prison maybe they'll have adopted a brood of children but um probably
00:23:55
Speaker
yeah we just we simply do not know but we are excited and we would love to know what you guys think is going to happen next because i feel like this could truly go anywhere in terms of like yeah what happens with them getting back together what john is going to do about all of it like we want to hear your theories and we'll maybe discuss them on a future episode absolutely and we will be doing another bonus episode in the same realm of rob run although before robert was on the scene we're going to do a special look at the episode where aaron comes out to paddy which i think was 2010 march 2010 is right
00:24:30
Speaker
right um yeah sure yeah yes it was 2010 gosh 15 years ago um and we'll be back with a proper episode the weekend 29th 30th 31st around band sort of time um 30 days past september there is no 31st oh no it's august yes that's fine it's great So yeah, we'll be around with that. We will we obviously be covering the things that are happening this week and next week, but because of like busyness, we weren't able to our regular thing, which we'll be in this weekend. So i hope you see what we mean. We just thought, you know, emergency podcast episode would tie people over and we couldn't leave this bit uncommented on.
00:25:11
Speaker
And Simon is graciously saying that it's busyness. It's just the fact that I keep leaving the country. I'm trying to pretend that I also have a social life, but I'm simply always here. That's not true. You're literally never in your flat.
00:25:26
Speaker
So anybody wants pergol you, go. Just go door to door of West Oxfordshire. Yeah, the whole county. i own simply nothing of value.
00:25:36
Speaker
yeah You have many, many thousands of books. Yeah, if you if you're out if you're willing to just bring a wheelbarrow and cart books around nearby, bring and buy, then might make a tidy profit. Yeah.
00:25:49
Speaker
gosh bring and buy sales haven't had one of those in a while blue beauty coded isn't it i love a bring and buy sale um is that enough from us for now do you think yeah i think so lovely see you all soon everyone yeah and if you want to get in contact then you can do so at at gmail.com or on instagram just dinglealltheway.pod yeah and we loved hearing you thanks thank you Evie we loved your email and Evie such a good email yeah we really enjoyed it bye