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Kev's samurai sword (Emmerdale 24 November - 5 December 2025)

Dingle All The Way: an Emmerdale podcast
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Lizzie and Simon discuss Kev's unusual sword-based kidnapping, the world's cringiest housewarming party, Celia's miserable reign of terror, and the welcome return of Lydia.

As ever, do get in touch at dinglealltheway.pod@gmail.com - we love hearing from you.

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Return from Break and Show Updates

00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to Dingle All The Way. I'm Simon. And I'm Lizzie. And we haven't recorded for three weeks and yet it's still all April or Celia or Ray all the time.
00:00:14
Speaker
ah do you remember a time before this storyline in both the show and your live? i don't think I do. yeah I was I basically because I was away for like two weeks selling at Christmas markets.
00:00:26
Speaker
I primarily watched all of the last couple of weeks of Emmerdale in one long, very, very depressing stint while I had the flu.

Lydia's Return and Jason Donovan Discussion

00:00:38
Speaker
um And so I just watched it all. And because I was really ill, I wasn't really like able to super make notes on what was going on. I got to the end of it and I was like, i don't even know what to say.
00:00:50
Speaker
Like, it's all just bleak. There's no hope on the horizon. Everything's terrible. Other than, obviously, the return of Lydia. Yes, that's the one bright rare sunshine. And course, she's somehow totally obsessed with getting what I would imagine incredibly easy, easily procurable tickets to see Jason Donovan. Who's fighting over those?
00:01:13
Speaker
I have really big question about that whole storyline, um which I fear doesn't put me in a good light.

Ongoing Storyline Challenges

00:01:22
Speaker
um Who is Jason Donovan?
00:01:27
Speaker
Well, originally famous for Neighbours is how he came to fame. as famous Famously married Kylie Minogue and Neighbours. um And then he's been living off that for 35 years. But he he's also sort of he did release a few songs. He was in Joseph interminably. Now he just bobs along, I guess.
00:01:48
Speaker
Okay. Well, that's good to know. I was just watching it like there's some guy. I've heard that name before, but literally don't know who he is. It's like, wow, jason Jason Donovan seems to be quite a big deal. but i'd say it's a big deal to people maybe 10 years older than lydia so i think they've done a dirty interesting news do we just leap straight into the whole miserable storyline or do you like more fun things first i don't know maybe we do the misery and then we return to some notes of joy at the end at which i think i have two or three i've got a few in fact i've written always nothing down
00:02:23
Speaker
for this actual miserable storyline, but let's see what's happened since we last recorded. Basically nothing's changed except more people are miserable now. So finally, it was nice that she finally told Marlon and Rona, where she had me in April, obviously, um or Flossie as it seems to come up now and then inexplicably. Well, only by Ray in a sort of patronising way.
00:02:46
Speaker
My favourite moment in that scene or that section was when she was obviously upset but i hadn't said why and they knew she was really worried and Marlon was all like, if you don't tell me, I'll have to go to the police myself. And at that point, he had literally nothing to tell them. He'd just be like, my daughter seems a bit sad, it was it was what he would take to the police. True, true. Especially when they eventually did go to the police and they were like, you still don't really have enough to tell us. Like, what was he going to tell them to say? Like, yeah, my my daughter's just bit gutted at the moment.
00:03:16
Speaker
Probably a police matter. Yeah. And as it happens, the police simply don't care when they do expose this you know drug prosecution, prostitution operation. They're like, yeah, OK, well, all best with that.
00:03:31
Speaker
I would really like to find our next Ask the Expert. And if I had had the time in that space, I would have done this because I do have a friend who is a police officer. But I'd like to find out, like, would the police really have just been like, sorry, we're not even going to think about that.
00:03:48
Speaker
It simply won't occupy us for a moment. Yeah, sure it's really on the police to collect evidence. Like, that's sort of their job. Yeah, you'd at least try and protect this child in some way, you'd have thought. but Yeah, like, it they've raised a significant safeguarding issue, if nothing else.
00:04:07
Speaker
ah And frankly, Emmerdale Village itself should have a full-time safeguarding officer.

Character Debates and Dynamics

00:04:13
Speaker
Yeah, like, Emmerdale is a safeguarding issue. It's being that. I'm sure in other parts of Yorkshire, perhaps you can attest to this, when you do the training, it goes through like the six types of abuse abuse, and the final one is just living in Emmerdale. Yeah, that's what they told us in the safeguarding training at church recently, actually.
00:04:34
Speaker
if If a child has been to Emmerdale recently, please do immediate counselling. Yeah, how a responsible with adult. um As a side point in the whole like April, Dylan, Celia, Ray thing,
00:04:49
Speaker
Bear really was very quick at digging Anya's grave. That's true for man who's constantly on on the verge of death. Exactly. Like, he's ancient and you have to dig, like, pretty deep down to bury someone. And it was just sort of in the blink an eye, it was done.
00:05:05
Speaker
Famously six feet under. Exactly. blank itt So that was something i found quite interesting. But that scene was very sad. The whole Anya thing was very sad.
00:05:16
Speaker
i mean, it was. I did write down R.O.P. Anya, I guess, because you know we we we knew for for about a week and a half. And obviously it is sad, but it felt like when she turned up in that truck that she was going to become like a long-term character. And in a way, it's a blessing that she isn't, because I don't think Emmerdale would have handled that storyline well. But when she just came in, it's like death fodder.
00:05:36
Speaker
Death fodder. I wonder whether themm somehow Ruby's going to find out about it and go mental and just be like, what the heck? might be nice if ruby killed celia or something so it really i mean and for those who want some sort of recap function in this i which i imagine if you do yeah maybe that's why we're hemorrhaging listeners but um i like to i like to know that's because people just aren't watching everdell anymore yeah everyone's doing up whatever now because it's so bleak um
00:06:09
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, I said, has there been any progress? It's just endlessly the same scene of Celia being, oh I mean, to do the actress credit, very good at being threatening. She is terrifying. um And then Ray, I'm struggling to work out whether Ray is just evil or if he he, because occasionally have these scenes like when um Dylan was trying to suggest he escapes this week or his like romance with Laurel and you see like real heart to him.
00:06:35
Speaker
But then he did run over Dylan moments later, so Yeah, I saw a post on Reddit that was saying like, oh, maybe what we're seeing is that like the real Ray is the good Ray. Like when he's like with Laurel or when he saw the truth about like Celia actually abusing him.
00:06:54
Speaker
um And that like, but he's just been corrupted into being this horrible person. And I'm like, well, the thing is, it does seem to just not bother him that much when he's like killing people I don't know.
00:07:09
Speaker
like It's not his first rodeo. He clearly has forced other work chip like young girls into prostitution or caused the deaths of vulnerable people, etc. etc So the fact that he quite is quite smitten with Laurel, I think, is probably not. like If we're weighing up things, that doesn't... In fact, even the... way listen I would also say the little romance with Laurel is... like His policy was just a one of intense harassment, which I think was meant to be read as like sweet. it's like She said no.
00:07:39
Speaker
literally and like I thought that Laurel and maybe Nicola were starting to see through him a bit when he was like not taking no for an answer and then also when like yeah standing her up on that date and she was like why should I let you back in and was like boom we're gonna get somewhere but no we didn't no he gives her like a wheel of brie or whatever it was and then she's like oh okay you know what whatever's in this box I do want
00:08:10
Speaker
ah Yeah, I mean, i i usually love it when Emmerdale brings lots of different characters story and storylines and things together in the way. So we've got the whole like Bob and Celia thing that obviously no one cares about, and then Ray and Laurel that people care about a bit more, and then the whole bear. And it's clever, but it's a shame they're all being sucked into like a black hole of utter despair. Yeah, it'd be nice if there was like a massive mix of all of these storylines that came together in like about a positive thing.
00:08:37
Speaker
I don't know what that would be, but... Yeah, just everyone wants to see Jason Donovan. It's the real feeling out of stadium. I fear I would struggle to struggle to care about that, but... um i thought Yes, I love the idea. um And i I'm sure there are families who are in this position of being in total terror, although other people on Reddit have pointed out,
00:09:02
Speaker
Marlon, Rona and April between them could easily have overpowered and properly killed Celia. So that is there is that. So true. they all just went for her and pinned her down, like what would she even do? Because apart from Rey, she doesn't seem to have anyone else that we've seen who is actually like desperately loyal to her. Like she's got all these people she's essentially enslaved, but I don't think they would necessarily come to her defence.
00:09:25
Speaker
I don't think many eyelids would be battered if she died. I did skip quite a lot of the episodes that they've been in. I will admit that. so Well, not the whole episodes, but I've been skipping through the storyline at a pace, so I have not fully understood everything that's going on.
00:09:40
Speaker
Do you need clarity on anything? and Well, you did help me clarify how there was heroin in Dylan's system because I had missed that whilst rushing through that episode because Ray injected him. um I didn't really work out who was being beaten up that Dylan was meant to beat up and then someone else maybe beat them up in some sort of test ah I can't really remember I don't i don't think he's going to be back I think it's a guy who like they shipped in from Manchester or Newcastle or something who works them elsewhere okay gosh ah well I guess there are indications that maybe maybe it will come to an end eventually don't know
00:10:22
Speaker
I hope so. I feel like the writers of Emmerdale just play with us. Like they give us a glimmer of hope of like maybe something will change soon and then it just doesn't. Yeah. Maybe there'll be years down the line. We have to be realistic. People do get entrapped for decades. It'll never end.
00:10:39
Speaker
Oh, yeah I can't do it. hello mean mike I mean, i've got i just don't want to spend any more time on that storyline. I'm desperate for it to be over. I think people are genuinely turning off watching Emmerdale because of it. It's too much.
00:10:49
Speaker
And it means that people aren't listening to our podcast, which is the big issue here. That's where the real issue lies. that We're the true victims of this storyline. Exactly. I do think it's been nice to see a bit more of Laurel because she is an amazing... Like, the lady who plays her is an amazing actress.
00:11:05
Speaker
And she's doing a really good job. So that's been a brief glimmer of hope. But I do just fear for Laurel's safety. And, like, what are they going to do? I was also thinking...
00:11:16
Speaker
where is Cain when you need him? Because if Cain caught wind of this, Celia and Ray would just be dead. Yeah, and like, why isn't Marlon telling Cain? Because ah they they've obviously thought would have them fearful, but and maybe they won't tell anyone now. But surely you'd tell Elise, warn Laurel off from Ray, you'd tell Cain what's going on, you'd tell Ross maybe.

Absurd Storyline Elements

00:11:38
Speaker
Like, there's all these people who have probably killed people in the past, it seems like the sort of thing they do.
00:11:44
Speaker
And... I mean, i know they're not like big time gangsters, but came with surely sort of out. Surely. um Wasn't Ray quite scared of Ross at the beginning when like there was all that kerfuffle over the weed?
00:11:58
Speaker
And like, Ray and he was like, oh, maybe he the one do So they didn't really have like young muscle in this organisation. Like Ray is what, 50 or something? are done
00:12:10
Speaker
ah And, you know, again, a good actor. I just, I wish he'd joined as a different character, I think. It'd be nice if he'd just come in and had a romance with Laurel because it is quite sweet occasionally when he's not forcing her to go on dates against her will.
00:12:24
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. when When he gets the whole consensual date thing, it's great. He's good to go. who um i mean, i I do love any scene with Nicola Ryn.
00:12:36
Speaker
So Nicola and Laurel talking about this is great fun. yeah Yeah, she is great. I feel like we've maybe covered enough of that. We are all wishing for it to be over. and that's that. Yeah. you get in touch if you, for some reason, love this storyline um and all best to you. But actually will mention an email we got this morning. i don't know if you've seen this one yet. Sarah, which was um about characters you could get together. It is on topics and strong about Laurel. And she says, my friend and I are convinced that Laurel is bisexual. And I think she'd be really good with Mary.
00:13:09
Speaker
um I could see them as a real power couple the kind of matrix that people come to for advice and taking in the waste and strays from the day of anywhere else to go and like you know I can see it yeah I think that would be really powerful I'd love to see that yeah and Mary would be much better with consent at the very least um yeah I think that sounds great let's let's angle for that like maybe when Ray is gone Laurel will just be like wow men are trash yeah Something found out recently is that um the first person Mary came out to was Kim. Yes, I saw that in a Reddit comment somewhere. and that they were like quite good friends and stuff, and how they don't even like talk.
00:13:48
Speaker
No. The writers have just like not put any scenes in, not that they've

Friendship Dynamics and Social Media

00:13:52
Speaker
fallen out. Yeah, they feel like they barely know each other. Yeah. is And that would be, you know, Kim does need some friends. I mean, we always say this, and I think a lot of people say this, they're just so bad at the moment at friendships in Emmerdale. We need more friendships.
00:14:04
Speaker
Well, I wrote a little note about ah two emido i said to i dropped it off at the studios down the road um laurel and nicola obviously are friends and we see that we had mac and ross didn't we let's talk about that in a second yeah but i wondered about joe and sam do you think they could end up being an unlikely friendship like when he gave him his job back When he said, when Sam stole the Christmas trees and Joe was like, I thought we were, and then didn't say the word friends, but i was like, oh my gosh. i Yeah, I was like, oh, maybe this could be the unlikely friendship that we need.
00:14:44
Speaker
Yeah, because, you know, while ago I was angling for um the Joe Tracy friendship, but... Yeah, I just never saw that, sorry. i just think it could be fun. like I'm sure it be fun, but I think it wouldn't happen.
00:15:00
Speaker
LAUGHTER A lot of things that are fun don't happen, and I suppose. Yeah, sadly. It's going to be the weird things. Well, let's, shall we talk, oh, since you mentioned it, the whole quite bizarre plan that Charity had to get Ross off the scent by forcing Mac to be friends with him, then forcing him not to be friends with him, and then forcing Mac to be friends with Liam. It's like he's arranging playdates for a child.
00:15:22
Speaker
I know, and I do quite see how by the end Mac was just a bit like, Liam's just kind of annoying. I don't want to be around him. Can you just stop doing this? And i felt sorry for Liam in the scene where he came over because he was being blackmailed and being friends with him, which is you know absurd. but And then Mac was just quite needlessly horrible to him, I thought.
00:15:46
Speaker
Yeah, no, I did feel sorry for him in that. As in, I don't think either of them particularly... wanted it to be happening, like, this weird set-up play date thing.
00:15:57
Speaker
um But Mac was very rude and very, like, immature. In a way that I thought, I don't think he would have been like that. I think, like, yeah it was a bit unnecessary, wasn't it? And then he thought it was really creepy that Liam had looked at his social media. It's like, it's social media. Like, that's what it's for. i't it's like if If it's public, people might look at it Don't put it there unless you want people to see it. That's the whole point.
00:16:21
Speaker
And what was Was a concert or something that he liked? or Yeah, he bought tickets for... Maybe it was a sports thing. don't remember. can't But it was something that... you See, I mean, it would be quite strange if a neighbour that I didn't know very well was like want to go to this event with me? But like, I'd probably go. Yeah, it'd be worth a try. and Especially if they bought you the tickets. I wouldn't be like, I can't believe that you bought me these tickets and you know that I went to Corfu in 2020.
00:16:50
Speaker
I'd just be a bit random but sure. Yeah, it's not like close but it's not like you've got my passport number tattooed on your torso. i'm ninety And I said he wouldn't recognise it if you did. like I know what my passport number is. But yeah, Ross and Mac's sort of strange friendship does seem to be like one of eight-year-olds where they're just like gaming together and then chatting about gaming together. No, they just love to see each other and can't stop talking about each other, which is lovely.
00:17:17
Speaker
And we have look we have asked for more friendships, so i welcome it if it if it sort of becomes one that two normal adults might have. Exactly. Because you do begin to see the age gap between Charity and Mac in these situations. Yeah, that is so true. How much older is she supposed to be?
00:17:35
Speaker
i think she's only supposed to be a handful of years, but I think because Mac is playing quite a lot older than he is, than the actor is. um I guess, shall we talk about the thing that I'm doubtless going to put in the episode title because it all gets more clicks, which is the whole Kev. Yes. You did just like fling your breasts into the camera then. I look forward to coming to you, sorry. wish I could do that but I also don't want to. Yeah.
00:18:06
Speaker
I'll cut that don't worry it just amused me you we're just like yes I'm gonna speak
00:18:13
Speaker
oh leave it I don't care I yeah started to see i think a more human side to Kev I was a bit like oh yeah you know what I'm warming to him I like his friendship with Claudette I think it's all very sweet and And then it all just went crazy, didn't it?
00:18:37
Speaker
And... Yeah, with samurai sword, of all things. Yeah, like, holding people hostage with the sword was a lot take um But ah also, at no point did I ever believe he would use it.
00:18:51
Speaker
No, of course not. Although he did, of course, stab Robert. but um So, yeah, he held Aaron, Liam and Robert unlikely hostages. and I mean, he did accidentally stab Robert whilst trying to stab Aaron.
00:19:05
Speaker
But I feel like it was like a slash on the something, on

Pawn Shop Scene and Kev's Secret

00:19:09
Speaker
the arm. It wasn't going to be laid one, right? Yeah, but Liam talked about him having lost a lot of blood, but then he just seemed to walk it off, just get a band-aid. So maybe Liam was lying to try and get him to let them go or something, because there didn't seem to be any blood, but maybe they can't show blood at that hour, I don't think.
00:19:25
Speaker
I don't know. there didn't seem to be much threat. Although i think, I mean, I would find it scary, obviously, if I was being held sword point and all of this stuff. I just like, I never believed that he would actually kill anybody in there.
00:19:41
Speaker
No, what i would be more worried about, I think, is like blood poisoning because heaven knows that iss not a sterilized sword. that he was um Who knows where it's been in that horrible... um pawn shop Did you recognise, by the way, the area of Leeds, which was a residential pawn shop? thought I did, but I actually didn't.
00:20:01
Speaker
I thought it was near Butcher Hill, on the edge of West Park of the Hawksworth State. Any Leeds residents, correct correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think it was. So, no, I did not.
00:20:15
Speaker
I did have eyes out for it. It did look like one of the places that, out push, might have a corner shop, let alone, like, I don't know how many small housing estates have pawn shops, but maybe they do. Yeah, true. Usually it's like a post office and an off-license kind of thing, right?
00:20:34
Speaker
Yeah. and And indeed, who's like, I don't want to sell this samurai sword, but just like, I'd like to pawn it for a bit. I'll be back if, you know, if passed, because I don't want to be parted from it for too long.
00:20:45
Speaker
Is that pawn shops still work? my My understanding of pawn shops largely comes from nineteen thirty s novels. to say I think it's like they hold it for you and if it's still there when you get back, great, but they might have sold it.
00:21:00
Speaker
But I don't know. certainly used to be more like, yeah, ute you'd get like a month or something where you could redeem it, maybe even for the same price you paid or a little bit extra. And then if not, then they'd just cut it on sale.
00:21:14
Speaker
But... Again, it's my my references are 100 years out of date. and Do pawn shops even still exist? And I should also say, like two pawn shops exist outside of the UK? Because it might have been very confusing terminology for anyone hearing it elsewhere, just the word pawn constantly. Yeah, pawn shop. It is P-A-W-N for the avoidance of doubt.
00:21:36
Speaker
I think I've heard it in ah in an American accent accent before. Pawn it. Pawn it. So sorry for what we just did. um Yeah, getting Liam to be getaway driver did seem, I'd say, foolish, particularly against his, well, not necessarily his will, just his knowledge. um Yeah, and I also think Liam is, like, the least likely person to be convinced not to go to the police about it.
00:22:02
Speaker
And if he had gone the police and been like, I literally didn't know I was doing this, and I've just found out that's what happened, then they would have been like, that was a bit dumb, but thanks for telling us.
00:22:15
Speaker
Like, why did he not? Liam simply cannot keep a secret if his life depends on it. Yeah. think Like, I did enjoy the scene where he was he was doing his best for it a good couple of days to keep the Hippocratic Oath re-Kevin not actually having a terminal illness. Then Aaron was like, where do your loyalties lie? It's like, well, it's literally illegal for me to tell you. But then apparently there's a loophole and I've not double checked with a medical friend because I don't think I need to double check if this is in fact true. that you can break the Hippocratic Oath if you're just nodding or shaking. yeah a
00:22:49
Speaker
I also really wanted to debrief that scene with you, but i was like, I'll wait for the podcast. Because that whole thing of like, all he needed to say was that you're not being very loyal. And it's like, oh yeah, you're right. I'm not being very loyal.
00:23:02
Speaker
i will just like break patient confidentiality. That's fine. That's not how it works. And then, yeah, just like standing there like, and nodding and shaking his head to various things and you're like that's still that's still breaching confidentiality come on yeah i do not think that would hold up in court if that happens but your honor i didn't say anything wink is there a listening device is that why you're doing this yeah and i said where are his lord i mean aaron and liam i don't think i've ever particularly been friends i know that liam is engaged to chas and no one believes that wedding is going to happen surely Oh, they seem to have forgotten about it.

Housewarming Party and Karaoke

00:23:42
Speaker
Yeah, and that is a blessing. um I mean, I'm sure Belle's got time in her books to organise it, but I'm thinking back through Chaz's previous weddings that I've seen, because sort of assumed Liam and Chaz would want quite different things from wedding, not least not really wishing the other person to be there.
00:23:59
Speaker
Yeah. um I mean, i don't think we need to think about their wedding because it's just not going to happen. Yeah, one hopes. Yeah, sure. But earlier in the Kev storyline was my favourite scene of the last three weeks, the housewarming party.
00:24:16
Speaker
Oh gosh, it was so tough, wasn't it? It was such a tough watch. I can't believe you think that was my favourite. I found it deeply uncomfortable. yeah well I did, but in a way that I loved, firstly I thought,
00:24:29
Speaker
People in Emmerdale move house every day. Like, they're constantly rearranging. to Like, are you even holding this party? you Yeah. I feel like if they had a housewarming party every time, it would be, like, a round-the-clock commitment.
00:24:43
Speaker
It would literally not... Well, maybe that is why no one goes to work. I'm so sorry. I've got to go to Ryan and Manpreet's housewarming party. Yeah. Someone's house is dangerously cold. I must warm it. Yeah.
00:24:55
Speaker
Yeah. um what Well, what does perhaps relate to that is that as far as I could tell, no one even took their coats off to get to this party. They're just standing there being like, we will be here max 10 minutes. so And there simply wasn't room for them. They just like like clustered around the outside of the wall. So we can quite a small room.
00:25:16
Speaker
Did you see that um they posted the like full length video of Kev singing um that song on Instagram? Yeah. I did see and I was like, i this is too excruciating. I can't sit through all of this. why They did do it all in one take just because everyone was like really trying not to laugh. And so they were like, we're just going to have to lock in. We just need to do this once and we can do it. And then it's done.
00:25:40
Speaker
But it is lovely that Daniel Bedingfield's getting his time in the sun again. so i know. so true. And I do wonder if he even knows that this is all going on. i guess ah maybe he has to get the rise. But Natasha's had, you know, quite a lot of fanfare of late. Whereas People forget that before Natasha, there was Daniel. There was Daniel, I know. And it's it's a great song, you know? Yeah, I mean, it certainly was was a moment, wasn't it? I preferred, obviously, the Spice Girls that was earlier in that scene. you know, that was lovely as well.
00:26:09
Speaker
Yeah. ah Did they do that song? Or are you just saying, in general, you prefer the Spice Girls? I need you to know. No, they did. It's the first karaoke with Billy and someone...
00:26:21
Speaker
Oh, I thought you meant that they did a version of that. Oh, i sorry. No, but would that they were. yeah can you imagine? Yeah, because who was doing the Spice Girls and then it sort of just got cut and he was doing that?
00:26:35
Speaker
it was It was Billy and someone. It was like bill one of Billy's sort of legally obligated one scene a month or something that he gets now. I love Billy and I want more of Billy. Like when he was being really good to Dylan and like helping him out and stuff, I was like, oh...
00:26:50
Speaker
You're a good egg and I want you around more. Yeah, more Billy. More Billy and Manpreet. Well, I always say I want them to get together. I don't want Billy and Manpreet to get together. You can't claim that for me.
00:27:02
Speaker
if Yeah, okay. I'm not going to claim that for you, but I think, much like Ray forcing Laurel on dates, that when you see it, you'll love it. I don't know if I will, but sure. Whatever. Something I was very impressed by in that in that scene, so kudos to whoever directed that scene was the mirror work in the housewarming where we like could see Robert's sad expression in, ah in, in a mirror in an angle that I don't think could possibly happen in real life, but, um, yeah. what up to witness Yeah. And I think that, um, Robert was, it was this perfect mix of him being really sad and also really uncomfortable, but then kind of this thing of like, I'm so glad that I'm not with you.
00:27:46
Speaker
Like yeah getting the ick in the biggest possible way whilst also feeling really like sad for him. Like I made the right choice here. And it has been a lot of emotions for Robert to act, hasn't it? Over the past, over this storyline. And I think he's done good job, but it is a good way of putting it because it's like affection, touch of repulsion a lot of like regret.
00:28:13
Speaker
Yeah. i would say maybe maybe heavier on the repulsion than a touch, but a heavy touch. A heavy touch of propulsion. is that what I should think the episode? Maybe, I don't know. Because it's how I feel about the Celia storyline as well. i'll say Yeah, it's how I feel about Celia and Kev, but in very different ways.
00:28:33
Speaker
And obviously Kev will be back at some point, you know, his whole evening with like, I will be revenge. and i I did like how Aaron played that scene, or Danny played that scene.

Christmas Decor and Festive Insights

00:28:42
Speaker
of just being like okay fine cool bye yeah well guess i'll find out see ya it's like a lot of people have tried to revenge themselves on me one time or another but revenge themselves that's a nice phrase but like i'm a legacy character i'm not going anywhere it true i actually have a very long contractor
00:29:03
Speaker
here ah do you perhaps say best Something that did come out of the housewarming thing, which I thought was sweet, was Vinny's friendship with Lewis and, like, coming alongside him when he's really overwhelmed and, like, yeah, understanding him a bit better. And I just hope that they're not going to make it into a romance.
00:29:23
Speaker
But fear they are. Of course they are We know they will. We need good friendships. You can't turn everything into romantic stuff. But we'll see. Yeah. I also... say Like, with the best one in the world, I think Lewis needs somebody different. Oh, absolutely. Because he is quite pathetic.
00:29:41
Speaker
Yeah. Less than both. But they should not be together. we haven't seen Gabby for a while, have we? What's she up to? Oh, I don't know. sort just ran away, suppose. and she's had a you know She's had a moment. Something that I would quite like to share, sort of vaguely...
00:29:57
Speaker
related to the Kev stuff, is that at Vic's house, they had entire strings of Christmas cards, like, hanging across the whole place on the 28th of November.
00:30:07
Speaker
i wrote down, Victoria has absolutely dozens of Christmas cards, just despite not knowing anybody. Like, who is sending these? Who's sending them these cards? She doesn't have any friends. I think maybe she kept them all from the last year, and now she puts them up as decorations, because, like, no one would have done that.
00:30:24
Speaker
She's accumulating them. These are like 10 years worth. Yeah. that's It was for Stooned. And I was watching it like it's not Christmas yet. And good for her in a way. but again, doesn't have any friends who in the street alone. Like, I just don't know yeah where she's procuring these. Her whole thing over the last year was like, it was so nice when John came back because I really don't have anybody. Maybe John has sent every single one of them. so many times from wherever he he's quite obsessive yeah or maybe you can just buy strings of Christmas cards now for the temly lonely oh yeah that would be a nice match it would be really lovely and it did make yes I mean that take on to Christmas in general I enjoyed Nicholas' line of like Chris Ray starts driving home in oc October or something yeah that was good I did like I thought the pub looked lovely and Christmassy they seemed to rearrange the furniture a bit I don't remember that fireplace being there but i guess it was
00:31:25
Speaker
I just thought even the outside shot of all the lights are around the windows looked lovely. Yeah. And it's the one it's one of the few times i thought, yes, I would quite like to go to that pub. But it's just well because I've not been there. True. Not across the threshold. That's true. the doorstep. Because normally it's just a heavy... I mean, they really lean into people being at the bar.
00:31:48
Speaker
um And I just don't know if I want and that ah just for the entire evening, which does seem to be what they mostly see the And they will only serve locals. um What I didn't love so much was how the shop was decorated for Christmas.
00:32:02
Speaker
Partly because I do despise a poinsettia. I didn't know have to say that, but... Poinsettia. Poinsettia. Poinsettia. Yeah, that's terrible. a stranglehold on Christmas as well. Yeah, and why? I was literally saying this in Morrison's yesterday because there were some reduced poinsettias. And um my friend Philip and I saw them and we were like,
00:32:23
Speaker
They're kind of terrible as is. Why would you buy one now? Because it's not even going to last till Christmas. You just get sort of a brief glimpse of it and then it's over. you're like It's going to be the worst thing about your yuletide season.
00:32:34
Speaker
truly would be a downer on the whole thing. Exactly. Why would you bother? and why are they reduced to this stage already? like Their time isn't coming I've seen some things.
00:32:46
Speaker
and like I get it. They're red and green. They're on theme for Christmas. But we can do better. we deserve better do deserve better i'm really glad we're united in this oh this yeah i hate them um of whereas i love a wreath you know give me a good wreath any day of the week i made my wreath this week it was really rewarding i bought mine from a grocer's in a small cotswold town i went to on thursday course you did yeah i have aspirations to make my own but i do think i got to support small town grocers so you know it's a passion for me That has been something of a burden to you over the last few years. anyway And that's something the shop could be selling. But what i found very confusing in the shop is that a lot of the Christmas decorations, it was very unclear if they were for sale or not, or if they were just decorating the shop. Like I'd go and pick up like one of this festive Santa's and they'd be like, no that's to give festive cheer.
00:33:42
Speaker
You can't, you mustn't buy that. I have literally no recollection of this. or that I think I did notice that the shop was very aggressively decorated, but they always do that

Digital Safety Speculations and Jason Donovan's Role

00:33:53
Speaker
like for Halloween. It was obscene.
00:33:56
Speaker
So I just thought, cool, like leaning into Christmas in quite a big way quite early on. But um I need to go go back and see just how how much it was. Yeah, it really was like you'd have to really burrow to get to the Fruit and Verge. But I don't think anyone's ever bought those Fruit and Verge, so that was fine. have Yeah, and I think we saw it in the scene where Sam had been defrauded by Tracy's WhatsApp being hacked. And I enjoyed how Tracy did not for a moment care about Sam losing all his money. was so fixated on someone having read her WhatsApps, which, you know, you would be, fair enough.
00:34:36
Speaker
She was not at all bothered about the effect it it had on Sam. Not at all. she simply didn't concern her. and Yeah. I get it. They're not really friends. But at the same time.
00:34:48
Speaker
i would be concerned. Yeah. Also, where was she posting that she had Jason Donovan tickets for sale? Like, firstly, who's hacked this account? And guess they must have accessed, is it on Facebook she's put that? She's always on Facebook.
00:35:05
Speaker
But then it's so specific. Like if I'd hacked someone's phone, and I've never hacked someone's phone, I'd probably be going off to their banking app or something. I wouldn't be like, yeah maybe if I pop my bank details on Facebook and assume that someone in the vicinity wants Jason Donovan tickets.
00:35:21
Speaker
This is bound to work. And, you know, in their defense, it did work. but But I didn't know if this is like going to turn into an actual digital safety storyline or something yeah I didn't know if it was just a quick flash in the pan and then it was over because it did feel like there was quite a lot of setup and then it was all just like oh well like are we coming back to that one no it did feel bit like the prostate cancer storyline that lasted about a day and was clearly like sponsored by prostate cancer charity or thing yeah it was quite brief wasn't it a brief spot of prostate and nothing else Which is as actually to is what a prostate is. It's too much. i Maybe Jason Donovan said, like I will do a guest appearance, but only if you cover a passion close to my heart, which is two-factor authentication. i think that's probably the most likely thing that's happened, actually. Because apparently he's popping up next Thursday.
00:36:19
Speaker
i go see the episode? Well, I'm glad I now know who he is. little spoiler. so He's turning up on the actual last day of Neighbours when it ends again. Wow. That's a real sort of Deodary moment for him personally.
00:36:36
Speaker
Or maybe even more you. I don't know. Maybe he's tapped out the whole thing. Yeah, I think he has. Also sort of I have as well. Like I care so much less this time. that Like last time it broke me. And this time I'm like, yeah, okay, fine.
00:36:48
Speaker
Gosh, yeah. Maybe just the Lord was preparing you for the final ending. I suppose. It must be like the second time Lazarus died. everyone's like this is something he does we've been through this it
00:37:05
Speaker
um i think i've only got like stray stray comments left but we've not we've not done very long this episode i think that's fine considering we're covering three weeks where yeah but it's just been three weeks of dross um what what is that you're holding by my phone if don't remember i was getting know this is a visual medium oh it's a little chick hello little chick really sweet little chick i just been trying to keep my actual life cat away from the microphone in a way impossible possibly unsuccessfully i love this soft toy chick so much like wow is it new acquisition is this from childhood
00:37:42
Speaker
um This is from maybe sort of 10 years ago, but i found in a random toy box that i get out when um the kids from church come over. and then I just thought, I was like, you know what? You're incredible.
00:37:55
Speaker
It's not your usual season. Obviously, Easter is when you'd find them over the shop, just like yeah every service. I think she's been out since Easter and has become an object of um real affection for the whole friendship group. so Oh, wow. Okay.
00:38:11
Speaker
Yeah, I had to wash her last week because she'd been overhandled and smelled bit weird. We've all been there. um I just have two things written down. Okay. Which people find quite amusing because one just says Joe's hair and the other one says hot and crusty. that a comment on Joe's hair?
00:38:37
Speaker
um Yeah, I don't really know what else to say about Joe's hair other than it's a bit longer. um but yeah you photos of what joe looked like when he first came yeah which was too much he had the like the towering bouffant going on yeah i think it was a lot and i don't know if he's i hope he's not going to try and get back to that well you know his body his choice but um i think it's a good length at the moment yeah i think it's good um and yeah i just enjoyed the pun when um bell was sorting the cake and someone was like are you getting it from hot and crusty and she was like yeah which is so sweet That is good. Oh, Kate reminds me of the endless attempts give Dylan a birthday party, which really did fixate, I'd say, everyone who lives in Emmerdale. Yeah, it seemed to bring absolutely everybody in other than Ray, I guess. Or indeed Dylan. know, and I did find that sad because he was just, like, overwhelmed. But now Mandy and Paddy going to think he was, like, on heroin. Yeah, that is a pity.
00:39:35
Speaker
And... um It was curious on Celia and Ray's part of me, like, well, no one will notice if Dylan doesn't go to his own birthday party. It's like, of all the days. I just think, I mean, I struggle to believe that they would have such a lack of empathy to do any of the things they're doing, but they would, because some people are like that. Yeah, I think I'm more surprised about just how incompetent they are at it. Yeah, it is kind of just crazy to me.

Lifestyle and Humor

00:39:59
Speaker
yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Both great contributions, thanks. A couple of things I forgot to mention earlier. I love Nicola and Kev scenes. Obviously, I love Nicola with anyone. Yeah, very good time. yeah and and like a little being protected, little Hanover, Lewis. Obviously, was it in the since the last episode we found out that Lewis is definitely Kev's son, maybe?
00:40:24
Speaker
i think so, yeah. And that field felt sort of nothing, so I guess... Kev must be coming back. Otherwise, like, why have you revealed this for no point? Yeah, Kev's definitely going to come back and it'll just be high drama. Everything will come out and then he'll maybe go to prison.
00:40:42
Speaker
Or he'll become a long-term character who is widely beloved. You know, I think it could be there for a couple years. It could always just go either way, couldn't it Because I think he could be, like, they do you have a weird thing where however bad someone is, so they're nice to their children most of the time. so Yeah, that's true. Brackets Kane. Although he was horrible to his children recently, so. Yeah, he goes back and forth, for sure. On their levels of horror.
00:41:07
Speaker
hu Yeah, but even like someone like Ross or something, he's meant to be often quite amoral or immoral. like He doesn't have much a moral compass, except he does love that.
00:41:17
Speaker
little lump of a child um but when when kev was like i'm gonna i'm gonna like settle down here it's like who is giving kev a mortgage is my question yeah surely nobody does he have an income other than robbing his income just is smashing grabs occasionally yeah like he doesn't have a deposit and he doesn't have a way to pay a mortgage No, and I know houses are cheap in the north, but um surely they're not like just sell a samurai sword cheap.
00:41:46
Speaker
No, surely not.
00:41:50
Speaker
Speaking of, you did spend, I think, about the same on your three-bed house that I spent on my one-bed flat, so that's that's the difference between ours. Sorry about that. So presumably Kev could get a one-bed flat. for And my brother spent the same amount on his six-bed townhouse in Wales.
00:42:05
Speaker
Oh, yes. Yes. Gosh, what a strange world we live in. the top tip to anyone thinking of moving to the UK is don't move to Oxfordshire. Like, it's lovely, but it's absurdly expensive.
00:42:16
Speaker
Sorry about that, but you did choose to live there. Well, in a way I did, but in a way, did I? In a way, yes. I just went to university here and I fear change. so that's that's not my fault. i That's why I live in Leeds.
00:42:34
Speaker
we We don't like to leave places. Why would we leave? Maybe I'll move to Leeds and buy like a million dollars. Just like the biggest house I've ever set my eyes on. I did get quite tempted to move to Wiltshire this week in that aforementioned Cotswold town. It's like, how can I get these beautiful three-bed Cotswold stone houses for like half the price they'd cost in my village?
00:42:58
Speaker
Because there's the second you leave Oxfordshire into the next county, prices plummet. That is crazy. And I do live on basically on the Gloucestershire and Wiltshire borders. So like ah but I basically decided to pay an extra 50 grand for my flat. Yeah, you don't need to. I think you should do that.
00:43:15
Speaker
Just need to cling on to that OX postcode. It means so much to me. Tragically, I fear it might. The only thing it does slightly mean to me is because my name is so common, it was really hard to get an email address. So I did have to put the word Oxford in there. And if I don't live in Oxfordshire, then it doesn't make any sense at to all.
00:43:32
Speaker
I always assume you put that in there because you studied at Oxford, not even because you live there. I mean, that just makes me sound awful, isn't it? You must you must remember at all times that decades ago I studied at Oxford.
00:43:47
Speaker
a um Speaking of, not really, just books, um i spotted that Charles and or Claudette have colour-coordinated bookshelves.
00:43:58
Speaker
Oh, okay. And how do you feel about that as a system? Yeah. um negative but um most but only for me really like happy for it other people to whatever they like with their ah bookshelves and I do have a couple shelves that are all by the same author that are in colour order well that's nice yeah because otherwise I think how would you ever find anything what I am quite anti is what a charity shop in Evesham which is where i went to school um did which was the charity shop had all the books in colour order which is absurd because I don't know what your books you've got on your shelf. No one's coming into a charity shop being like, could I get for a red book? you know Like it's quite a difficult system in your own home, but you basically have ah a better grasp of what colour each of your books are. But when you're trying to find a new book, why would you do that?
00:44:44
Speaker
It did scream someone who loves the aesthetics of bookshelves, but has never read a book in their life. Yeah. Which I'm sure a lot of people fall into that category. Yeah, I mean, I don't see a lot of people reading in Emmerdale, which I guess is because that wouldn't be a fun scene to witness. But but i quite like yeah just someone like Rona, I could see just like before someone comes to me to run a pub, just she could she could be reading.
00:45:06
Speaker
Yeah. I was reading a bit more in cafes. Yeah. And like, certainly, I often go reading cafes. It could be people in the background. yeah so i Somebody was reading something in the hop earlier. what Who is that?
00:45:23
Speaker
I forget. Is it called the hop or the hive? er The hide. The hide. Neither of the above. It begins with an H. Yeah, the hide. i mean, they're all bad names. um I did write two more things down for our stray thoughts section. One is was Dylan in the cafe where he ordered cherry bakewell with extra cherries.
00:45:46
Speaker
Yeah, how do they do that? ah is Can you imagine saying that to Nicola? She'd be like, you're getting it as you're getting it. So she's got a large tub of cherries in the back and they're like, sure, I'll just pop a few on. bit Bizarre.
00:46:03
Speaker
And yeah, it obviously worked, so good for him. Or she'd just be like, yeah, this one's got extra cherries, just hand him a random one. I don't know. Exactly. Well, my parents live in Bakewell, like actual Bakewell, as you know. Famously, yeah. And the real Cherry Bakewell doesn't even have a cherry on it.
00:46:20
Speaker
It doesn't even have icing. No, of course it doesn't. That's a Mr. Kipling invention. Yeah, so that's something to dwell love And I think I'm right saying, I will defer to the expert, that they call them Bakewell puddings.
00:46:33
Speaker
ah That's two different things. Oh, right. Tell me everything. Don't stint a detail. Paper pudding is like really lovely. You usually have it warm. It's a bit more of like a, not like a suet pudding, but it's quite like, I'm ah trying to think of a better word for fatty. Fatty is fine. If it's fatty, it's fatty.
00:46:56
Speaker
um and it's really yeah it's really nice but you usually have it like warm with custard and a baked curry is more of like a solid thing that you can cut it a slice out of more easily and it's like like a normal it's got like the classic like pastry jam french pan flaked almonds on top I did somewhere while ago where they were serving both Bakewell tart and Frangipan tart. I'm like, I'm pretty sure these the same thing. Much the same, yeah. When you have Bakewell, you should get a Bakewell tart and a Bakewell pudding and you can compare.
00:47:28
Speaker
Comparing with us, and we are doing that so soon. know. There are like three shops that all of them claim to be the original Bakewell pudding, Bakewell tart shop, and you're like, you can't have it off.
00:47:39
Speaker
I mean, I am also going to that area without you, sadly, and at the end of end of this month, so I'm just i'm just can't go stay away from derbyshire yeah it's much like elizabeth bennett uh little little friend of british she's addicted to derbyshire she loved derbyshire and my final stray thought uh before we get on to um our other bits and pieces was i ah bell had that quite lovely big gray wool coat that she was wearing don't know if you spotted that and i was thinking
00:48:13
Speaker
how I need tips from her. How is she wearing a wool coat that pristine whilst living with a pet? Because everything I own that's wool is 90% cat fur at this point. but but And I will say like it was ah it was a very similar shade to their dog. So maybe maybe that helps.
00:48:35
Speaker
Yeah, well, you think sort of Piper just sort of blends in with the coat? Maybe it's made from Piper's fur. Maybe she did handcraft it from her own dog's fair. I guess we haven't seen Piper for a while. Yeah, which has been lovely.
00:48:49
Speaker
Is the dog still live Sam and Lydia or has that dog died? can't remember. I haven't seen Sam and Lydia's dog, but I expect they have one in principle. They just don't have Yeah. So but even just like having chickens around whatever, you'd think there'd a few feathers stuck on the bag.
00:49:07
Speaker
Yeah. But she knows she's obviously, maybe she got it straight from a dry cleaner. Yeah. and yeah i just I was very envious. That's where she drops every evening. Yeah. Because i I just give up on having any clothes that aren't littered with that.
00:49:23
Speaker
I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, when I stay with my parents because they have a golden retriever, um it's very much like that. And we had like one of our friends visited while we were there. and like the basil the dog got like some fur on her trousers and she was like oh like sort of tried to rub it off and i was like oh no like don't do that like do that when you're there's literally no point like why would you do that it's like a sisyphus sisyphusian cy they um it's like it's like this first thank you uh yeah the the never-ending story i suppose of of animal hair
00:50:00
Speaker
Yeah, and I find even just getting in my car, somehow it's all transferred into there. Like my brother was in my car a while ago and he didn't even see how I grew and got covered in cat hair just because it's just so about in the air now. like um Imagine if I was heavily allergic, we just wouldn't be friends.
00:50:15
Speaker
I do have a couple of friends who are very allergic. I'm just like, I guess that's a you problem. so

Crossover Speculations and Character Development

00:50:21
Speaker
That's something I can do nothing about. Yeah, have an antihistamine or eight, deal with it. I think it's because he's an indoor cat and indoor cats mowl all year round so that doesn't help the letters. Yeah, didn't know that.
00:50:33
Speaker
You've just established different seasons for him or a lack of seasons. Yeah, he's just like California, just like a constant single season. And we really we really have said lingered more on Bayquat Arts and My Cat than we have on the main storyline of the past three weeks. It's a random character generator, just get it done.
00:50:51
Speaker
I guess get it done. Well, yes, but I was going to think, should we talk about Corrie Dale? Because they've released that like vote for who you want which pair you want to see. do you see i haven't looked at it because I don't know who anybody in Coronation Street is.
00:51:05
Speaker
Neither do I really, but it was... i'm not going to try and remember from just guessing, but Sam and someone, I thought no one's going vote for that, bless his sweetheart. Curried out pairings. And it was one of those ones where it's very clear which one would win, but apparently have filmed all of the different pairings.
00:51:21
Speaker
They filmed them all? Well, apparently, and then on the, so oh here we go. The options are, I don't know how they came up with these pairings. Apparently they were all submitted, but again, I don't think anyone's submitting Sam Dingle as someone they're desperate to see in this crossover.
00:51:34
Speaker
but um um I like Sam Dingle. I mean, yeah yeah you know I like Sam, but no. Nicola and Roy. um I'm vaguely aware of Roy, but yes, Nicola and anyone's fun. Ross, Spartan and Tracy Barlow. Again, don't really know who Tracy Barlow is.
00:51:52
Speaker
Charity Dingle and Carla Connor is definitely going to be the one that wins and I'll explain why in a moment. And Sam Dingle and Kirk Sutherland is the other one. Never heard of Kirk Sutherland. um So Sam Dingle got in there twice?
00:52:04
Speaker
No, that was the first time. Okay. I'm not sure. So Nicola Ross, Charity and Sam are the Emmerdale characters who might appear. But Carla is part of a pairing. i do Again, I don't actually know if they are a couple or not in in the show, but there's a same-sex woman like covering carla and someone whose name begins with sw because they're known swala um that fans are obsessed with and obviously charity and vanessa a lot of fans are obsessed with that pairing yeah so i think there's going to be a groundswell of people just going for that okay and do we think that charity is going to get together with this other woman and then mac will be like what the heck it'd be weird to think of that for one episode wouldn't it but you know maybe i can see it
00:52:50
Speaker
Charity will presumably be like six months pregnant at that point. Oh yeah, so true. Oh, I can't be bothered with the pregnancy storyline. I can't bothered with any of it.
00:53:01
Speaker
Yeah, that's where... ah and So this space? I can't remember when the date January sometime. Okay. Well, maybe it'll be a nice birthday present for me. Maybe will.
00:53:12
Speaker
um Or a horrible one. Who knows? Okay. or Should we do the... ah just wanted to check if I'm going to delete the person. Oh, I didn't. I've left Ryan and we don't want Ryan twice.
00:53:25
Speaker
didn't think that he was. Let's get rid of you, Ryan. Okay. Our random person is... Vinny. Oh, well, we've already spoken a bit about him, haven't we? I like Vinny. know you find him pathetic and sometimes he is a bit pathetic.
00:53:43
Speaker
But I just think he's a sweet soul. Yeah, and... I think I feel the same. Like he's, he, I would like him to do bit more comedy because I think that's what he is good at bringing. I like that he looks and sounds exactly like Paddy and they should lean into that more, which I think was deliberate when he first came. I think we were meant to think he might be Paddy's son.
00:54:02
Speaker
um But like all the count comedy characters, they end up just being saddled with all sorts of miserable storylines to be like, even happy people can have sad things happen. But um yeah, I like him as,
00:54:14
Speaker
like in the house share that's fun i like him working with aaron and the unusual colleagues thing that we didn't see very much of um i quite even quite like him having to put up with mandy being totally unhinged as a mother but yeah yeah and then you did a good job of like finding out that she in fact was not his mother and just sort of getting on with his life quite soon afterwards so that was good it was true that became a whole big storyline for like a day and then yeah and then it was just like oh yeah it's like that should we never acknowledge this again yeah um As we talked about romantically, I don't really want him to be with Lewis. I don't think that's fun thing.
00:54:47
Speaker
I think like I just want him to find someone who he actually likes and he can be happy and won't be like a little bit emotionally blackmail-y like Gabby. Yeah, ideally no emotional blackmail. It's an ideal.
00:55:01
Speaker
I just like be a fun house share guy for a bit. Maybe yeah some lighthearted stuff there. That sounds fun. a few bachelors just having a good time.
00:55:13
Speaker
Yeah, and yes, one of his bachelors is a decade plus older than the others, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't need to matter, okay?
00:55:23
Speaker
m Yeah, so definitely definitely don't want to get rid of him, you know, keep him around. but And i think he did I think he acted well in the storyline, the big story he had about the black man and stuff, even though it didn't really make any sense. but that's Yeah, it didn't make any sense, but he did a good job of it.
00:55:39
Speaker
yeah Like so many of the stories. um Yeah, thumbs up for Vin. No one wasn't Vin. Although I did love when he was called Vin Petrol by Ross. Yeah, I know that was pretty nice. Yeah, more of the Ross and Vinnie sort of friendship slash nemesis thing going on.
00:55:57
Speaker
Vinestrone was another nice one. yes. um And in terms of farming content, yes, we've seen a lot, but it's all been very bleak and carried out by slaves. So I don't want to talk about it.
00:56:09
Speaker
Yeah, fair. Yeah, okay, well, so...

Closing Thoughts and Listener Engagement

00:56:16
Speaker
Fingers crossed when we come back, well, things aren't to have got any cheery, are they? It's sort's probably going to come to a head at Christmas. um nothing self- to do i suppose I watched it on Christmas Day with my mum last year, and she was like, I can't even remember what was happening last year, but she was like, that wasn't very cheerful. It's going to be even worse for her this year.
00:56:35
Speaker
hasht i bla midwinter um Yeah,
00:56:42
Speaker
I was forbidden from watching it at my with my family last year, so I guess I'll be catching up. um but I don't know when I'm catching up because on holiday after that. I'm sure can just go to room and watch it like on your phone or something if you need to. But that's not very festive. it phil It's not super festive. I just think if it's getting to know whether having to forbid you, maybe you should just put your foot down.
00:57:01
Speaker
Be like, can't do this in my own time. It was my brother's house last year. he maybe had more power to forbid my parents' brother. I don't care. There's probably some football match on or something. I can go and watch Emmerdale instead.
00:57:13
Speaker
Exactly. Run away. They love playing football on Christmas Day, famously. oh i mean, I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but it does seem the sort of thing they do. But do they? I don't know. I don't know. I wouldn't put it past them, but I also wouldn't put it past them.
00:57:28
Speaker
I love that. That's great. Yeah. ah Obviously, absolutely none of our business, what they get up to. I would hate to cry. Yeah. um But yeah, do get in touch, people. Dinglealltheway.pod. Thanks so much for your lovely emails we've had. do pop those comments on Spotify. Those are always fun. Oh, yeah. So we're trying to And i I have no idea if we'll be back in a fortnight because heaven knows what we're doing on the Christmas seas but no season. Well, hopefully. I think, yeah, let's just, whatever. Let's do that. I like that idea.
00:58:02
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Let's do a festive one. Yeah, let's disregard the misery. And do let us know if there's any questions you'd like us to cover. Maybe you want to know, like, what do we think Moira's favourite Christmas carol is, etc. Yeah, we should, like, bring some lightness and cheer.
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what do you think each person does on Christmas this morning? That kind of thing. And here's my guarantee. I think there's one known prediction more than guarantee. We're going to see Bob in a Santa Claus costume at some point.
00:58:31
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Oh, yeah, for sure. Or Rodney, maybe. I hope it's Bob. i hope We all hope it's Bob. Rodney's surely on our list somewhere. um Anyway, thanks for listening, everyone.
00:58:43
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ah Big fans of your work. Let us know if we if we were in your Spotify wrapped. That could be fun. We were in friend Philip's Spotify wrapped, but I don't know about anybody else's thing.
00:58:54
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I listen to every episode on Spotify after we do it, and and somehow this wasn't in my Spotify wrap.
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It's not my fault that the rest the entertainment releases twice a week and we only do once a fortnight. Yeah, that's massive. And as ever, any classic apps that you think we should cover, we haven't done a classic app for a while. True, and we would be keen to see. God rest you merry, I suppose. gentlemen. Bye.
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