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*Everyone* owes Robert Sugden an apology (Emmerdale 1-12 September 2025)
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John and Aaron's cliff plunge! Mack's eternal bunker and eternal candles! Sweet Kammy doing his best and it's useless! Lizzie and Simon discuss the past fortnight on Emmerdale - and the long line of people who will owe Robert an apology once John's true colours are finally seen.
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Focus
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to Dingle All The Way. I'm Simon. And I'm Lizzie. And my goodness, it's it's been all going, well was going to say in Emmerdale, Emmerdale and environs, Emmerdale and sundry cottages.
00:00:13
Speaker
Yeah, the surrounding area
Emmerdale's Geography Discussion
00:00:15
Speaker
I suppose. Like we don't know where they are but they do seem be able to plop back to kitchens at a moment's notice. Yeah, it's unclear like because they talked about it like it was this huge move if they did end up going there but it does also seem to be 10, 20 minutes by car. And certainly one of the scenes today where they were like near the cottage was also that road that we walked on that led to the set. So it was maybe three minutes from the village.
00:00:38
Speaker
It's a big move, okay?
Creepy Cottage Drama Recap
00:00:40
Speaker
but what's what's been going on, Lizzie? Give us the highlights. Oh my goodness, what hasn't been going on? um that it's just everything has been happening. So John and Aaron moved out to Creepy Cottage. We covered that in the last episode.
00:00:57
Speaker
That is its official name. And they are
Cliffside Argument and Hospitalization
00:00:59
Speaker
still there. However, it's been a lovely couple of weeks because little by little... Aaron sort of the scales have fallen from his eyes and he's realized that John is actually tricking him being manipulative drugging him murdering lots of people keeping Mac in an underground chamber um so it's been nice I thought to see Aaron slowly wake up to this however it all culminated ah the beginning of this week in them having an argument on a cliff edge which is an unfortunate place to have an argument and then
00:01:33
Speaker
Robert turns up because he's sort of realised what's going on and wants to try and save Aaron. But then John quickly rings the police and says, my husband's ex-husband is here. as he's He's going to try and kill both of us.
00:01:47
Speaker
And then grabs Aaron and says, if I can't have him, no one can or something. and then he jumps off the cliff with him in
Mac's Dungeon Survival and Aesthetics
00:01:57
Speaker
his arms. So Aaron is currently in a coma in the hospital.
00:02:00
Speaker
John is currently... doing a bit better, but um terrified that Aaron's going to wake up and tell everybody that it was him who killed Nate and a whole load of other things.
00:02:12
Speaker
And Mac is somehow, amazingly, still alive in a dungeon. Extraordinary. yeah there's so much to cover, but i maybe we just make sure we dwell on Mac for a moment before we go back, because Mac has, what, been now two and a half weeks?
00:02:28
Speaker
Something like that. i I will say that John has invested in the longest lasting candles I've ever seen because he lit those days and days ago and they're still like half burnt.
00:02:39
Speaker
It's like, that's good thinking for a bunker. Which presumably is not airtight because it's like he's not asphyxiated yet and there's enough oxygen to keep those so candles
AI Technology and Debate on Usage
00:02:48
Speaker
burning. I was also thinking like other than the whole sort of like torturey vibe really nice aesthetics down there candlelight I saw some old stoneware jars like a nice old metal toolbox stripped back wooden beams I was like if this wasn't like ah sort of hostage torture situation i'd be all over that yeah throw in some soft furnishings make sure it's where do I seem like it does have wi-fi actually so yeah the wi-fi is good to go somehow in that underground bunker um
00:03:20
Speaker
And this was also our introduction, i believe, Emmerdale's first time using ai So that was exciting. John can just pop a couple of buttons and make it sound like Mac.
00:03:31
Speaker
That's what I thought. But then I was listening to the Rob Ron podcast. Shout out the Rob Ron podcast because I am obsessed with them. um And they said that this happened before when he sent a message from Nate's phone. But I don't think he did. i thought that that was just like a text message.
00:03:48
Speaker
But they seemed to think it was ai but they might have gone modded up with something else.
John and Mac's Relationship Analysis
00:03:53
Speaker
Oh, I mean, I certainly don't remember Nate's voice being involved. but um Yeah, me neither. Okay, cool. Interesting. So, yeah, as far as I can remember, is their first foray into AI.
00:04:03
Speaker
um And it's not putting it in a very positive light. I mean, John's very good at it Yeah, of course he feel like he could put those skills to better use. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
00:04:16
Speaker
And if I had that thing at my fingertips, I might not have like threatened Mac into doing it first. I would just have done it myself in the cottage. Yeah, true. You could have done that on the go anywhere. um I quite enjoyed the sort of relationship that Mac and John fell into, which obviously Mac was just trying to keep him on side, trying to appeal to...
00:04:36
Speaker
um john and like i guess flatter him enough to potentially be let out by being like no you are a good person and and you are a kind person and if you let me go i'm never going to tell anybody about any of this but it did sort of just slip into kind of almost therapy and it was quite strange at various times of of like john just pouring his heart out to him and mac being like no like you're doing really I don't know i just found it quite strange but also wow amazing that Mac in like the most traumatizing circumstances imaginable is able to hold a conversation and like give quite good advice but then also sometimes just be quite sassy and quite fun and I was that you don't seem like you're in much pain but sure I mean I always love sassy Mac sassy Mac is is my favorite Mac um
00:05:27
Speaker
And I know this doesn't but reflect well on me, but i also felt there was more sexual chemistry between Mac and John in these scenes than I've ever seen between John and Aaron.
Mac's Escape Attempt and Criticism
00:05:35
Speaker
You are obsessed with John having sexual chemistry with people that aren't his husband.
00:05:40
Speaker
That's all I think about day and night.
00:05:43
Speaker
I will also say that, you know, Mac doesn't look in the best shape ever, but he looks better after three weeks in there than Aaron did after one night of being drugged in, in that, like when Mac's hair does not look like it's not been washed for three weeks, for example, I imagine he put that in his contract. He was like, I'll do it, but I need to keep my, you know, my best asset clean and floopy.
00:06:06
Speaker
Yeah. Mac just is in general looking quite great considering the potential. He's thriving on it. yeah Like, all of the what's he eating and I think we maybe said last week how on earth is he going to the toilet you know we don't want to know but we also are curious yeah curious um no answers please just questions um yeah why does he still look so good it's yeah it's a risk cure for him it's if anything he should be selling this as ah as an activity at the hive so you if you want to or maybe at the salon
00:06:42
Speaker
You want look your best? Bunker. Really bunker down. but Bunker down. One thing I have quite big questions about is so at one point John had been sort of buttering. No, um Mac had been buttering John up and flattering him, being like you're so great to try and get him on side.
00:07:02
Speaker
And then we see him pick up a plank of wood and try and hit John around the head with it. um And that's sort of the point at which, cause he doesn't manage to, that's the point at which John turns sour and is like, I can't trust you.
00:07:15
Speaker
You're going to die down here. and like, there's no chance of him getting out basically. My question is in Mac's best case scenario with the whole plank, what would have happened if he had been able to hit John like knock him out or whatever he is still chained underground in a bunker he has no food there is no one to let him in and out no living soul in the world knows where he is i was like that's dumb there was no good option there and I'm sad that that did not strike me in any way but I clearly have yeah I mean you can understand Max not thinking things through as well he should but
00:07:53
Speaker
it was It was rather pathetic plan.
Robert's Prison Challenges and Police Critique
00:07:56
Speaker
Yeah, it was a real shame. And it felt kind of Wallace and Gromit-y of when like the plank just like stopped short of his head. It felt like, you know in a Grand Day Out when that um machine keeps on coming up to them with the rolling pin?
00:08:12
Speaker
and then it goes to whack gromit over the head with the rolling pin but it runs out of like money just above his head to me was exactly the same as when max chains held him back from getting john with the blank that was the inspo for that scene know thing i think it probably was 100 very aardman very aardman very looney tunes and uh I can't remember if his brief escape into the cornfield was, had that happened when we last recorded? have we talked about that?
00:08:41
Speaker
I'm not sure, but I am happy to talk about it again. And I don't think anybody will mind hearing our thoughts again. Yeah, sure. And people will be relishing that, i'm sure. But um i the way that he sort of stumbled, like lurching out of out of the bunker for a little bit and, you know crawled forward a little bit, but then was,
00:08:59
Speaker
cowering at quite a pace through a nearby cornfield and then instantly collapsing because he could go no further. I sort of admired his ability to really put the energy in when needed, but also... Where are we going with this? I would love to know how that sentence ends. But also...
00:09:16
Speaker
It's just a real shame that the energy really gave out when it was needed to like glance up at the person who was coming to him. Because he was just you you knew it was Sean coming, not least because that was inevitable, but also because Mac was giving his heartfelt plea while staring at the ground.
00:09:31
Speaker
Yeah, it's true that Mac didn't really know how to pace himself. like He's clearly not a marathon runner. He doesn't know the ways of these things. He burnt himself out quick. Not like us. Not like us.
00:09:43
Speaker
We've both run so many marathons. So many. Yeah, I was terrified. And I know that's why they do cliffhangers. When um we just saw John approach with an axe.
00:09:57
Speaker
Like, we still don't know what happened with the axe. I assumed we would then see footage of him, like, axing off the chains around his wrists and being like, well, okay, I guess don't need these anymore or something. But, like, he never did any axe...
00:10:09
Speaker
stuff He was just like back in the basement before we knew it. He's very big on like doing things that are simultaneously incredibly threatening and also not that dangerous.
00:10:19
Speaker
So he's like, I am going to like pop you in this bunker, but I'm not going to like physically harm you. I'm going to like, I'm going break it. well I'm going to like break a leg or whatever he did, but I'm not going to like smash your head in. I'm going to like come at you with an x but I'm just going to pop you back in the bunker.
00:10:34
Speaker
I think he's a bit scared of himself. cause He's a good person. because Well, because he thinks he's a good person, but then he sees all these things that he's doing and he's like, oh my goodness, that's awful. And I think like he maybe always stops himself just short of what he could do.
00:10:51
Speaker
don't know. It's not the first time we've mentioned St. Paul on this podcast, but he does those things that he he wishes he would not do. and does So true. John is Romans 7. And there is a lot of debate about whether Romans 7 is about those who know Jesus or not.
John's Manipulative Nature and Impact
00:11:06
Speaker
So... my gosh.
00:11:08
Speaker
Yeah, because, i mean, reminded me that a lot the whole thing of when Emma, um Moira's sister-in-law, like who who murdered people stuff, when she kidnapped her husband into a into a cottage and she was she was very much like, this is how we can be together. i love you. It was a very similar vibes, but she was, I think that we went down more clearly like this person's totally lost her mind sort of thing. Whereas John, they seem to amble back and forth between he's a total psycho, like when he's like angry at Mac for being untrustworthy, but also...
00:11:36
Speaker
so some like you can sort of see how things just got horribly out of hand he doesn't know and he doesn't know what to do yeah everything he does is making it worse that's also kind of why he's so good at being manipulative and getting people on side because there is a large proportion of him that is like can't you see how this definitely isn't my fault and like i don't even know anybody could believe that about me and he's being honest when he says that but yeah it's obviously also not true because he is a psycho Yeah, and his planning generally quite poor, I think, but I did think the phoning and saying that his brother was there, very clever planning. Very, very clever.
00:12:14
Speaker
Yeah, we haven't really touched on Robert, have we, and the fact that he has totally been thrown under the bus by this and is already in prison for the attempted murder of Aaron. Dear sweet Robert. And, I mean, I think Ryan Hall-Lee...
00:12:27
Speaker
as I ever played those scenes, all of the scenes he's been in so well, the like desperation to get people to believe him, particularly in prison when he's like, please do not let John and and Aaron alone together in Victoria being, and sort of understandably, I guess, like you're just being stupid.
00:12:42
Speaker
But yeah, that's all helplessness he's got. ah the Yeah. And the frustration that you can see is obviously very like traumatized by going back to prison, but top of mind is like, you need to protect Aaron. and i think that's very sweet. yeah Even in that he's like, he cares more about Aaron than he does about his own safety.
00:12:57
Speaker
But I think that that um also really shot him in the foot in the police interviews because I found Thursday's episode so frustrating. Basically the whole thing, I was just like, Robert, just take a deep breath.
00:13:10
Speaker
Tell them everything you know calmly from the beginning, methodically. What's your evidence? Why do you think all of these things? But he just kept on being like, what's happening with Aaron? And like shouting things. And you're just like, well, now he's definitely going to send you to prison.
00:13:26
Speaker
And he did. Yeah, and we know that the police, if possible, don't want to investigate any crimes. Of course. On Emmerdale, once
Framing of Robert and Innocence Struggle
00:13:35
Speaker
again, we are not on TV. This is not an ACAB podcast.
00:13:40
Speaker
um yeah But ah when he's like, I think Mac has been killed or gone missing or whatever, and they're like, we simply don't care. And that's that's basically where they've left that.
00:13:51
Speaker
Yeah, and didn't they say to John, like, he's made some very serious allegations. Do you know where Mac is? And he was like, no. And that was it. Or maybe it was when it was today's episode when Moira was asking him where Mac was. And he was why would I know? And then it was just that with that.
00:14:06
Speaker
I can't wait for it all to come out. But fear it's going to be a really long time. I do need so many apologies on the screen to robert i need an apology from chas need an apology from victoria i need an apology from moira i need and i don't want them to be skimmed over i want proper apologies know but i bet we will just see them in the wall pack raising a glass together and everyone being like yeah sorry about all that and that'll be it um two two phone related things i want to talk about with robert actually one is that the phone call he made
00:14:39
Speaker
at the ah the cliff edge where he just said, i need an ambulance. And that was it. No location, no of what's happened. I was going to say about that well. How on earth did they find them? Because yeah he did not say where he was.
00:14:51
Speaker
He didn't even request whether he wanted ah police, ambulance or fire fighters. So it was probably the so some some woman being like, okay, I'll put you through to the ambulance then. and Yeah, he was just still talking to the dispatch team and then the call was over. Yeah.
00:15:07
Speaker
And I, you know, GPS, of course, is a thing, but I don't think based on snippet of his phone call, but maybe because the police were already on their way. Although again, nice place. No, John did actually give a location. So he's like a step ahead.
00:15:20
Speaker
then also the number of people that Robert is phoning from prison. Like how many phone numbers has he memorized? I don't know a single soul's phone number except my own. If I was in prison there I'd be like, yeah I can use my one one phone call to phone my childhood home I grew up in, which other people live in now.
00:15:34
Speaker
That's it. I can phone some had friends from high school who don't live there anymore. Yeah. And then I'm done. i do think that you would not cope well in prison. Yeah. would be That would be the least of my concerns. Yeah, like, i don't think that your phone number directory is going to be the main thing you're worried about.
00:15:54
Speaker
um But yeah, it does seem unlikely that Robert would... um for some reason be able to call matty yes it's like i've memorized it because i barely have met unless it was he filling the landline or the mobile i can't well he was filling the landline but like he's not had much contact with them other than like recently going into business with them and sometimes moving some sacks around their farm yeah oh no i mean i can only imagine those sacks are piling up but one foot from where they should be yeah they've got a constant supply of sacks
00:16:27
Speaker
And if no one moves them, they're not going to move themselves. Absolutely not. Yeah, I do hope that Vic gets one round.
Hospital Scenes and John's Presence
00:16:34
Speaker
I think she probably will. I think that when she meets with Robert and he's a bit broken, but he's still still like standing by this story and really concerned about Aaron, I think she will slowly start to believe him.
00:16:47
Speaker
Yeah, I do wonder if we're going to revisit properly like whatever was hinted at in the prison trauma story. I was going to say that this episode. I think like the way that the guard put his hand on Robert's shoulder and he like flinched. I was like, there's going to be something.
00:17:02
Speaker
Yeah. Very unconvincing prison hubbub of background noises, I noticed. Oh, yeah. It was definitely just a loud soundtrack. yes Quite short um I was wondering whether, do you think that Vic is going to go back to the cottage to like get some... She like ah said, Audrey would get some clothes, and John was like, no. And I think that she will just take it upon herself to go to the cottage and get some of their stuff and then find Mac's phone is my hope.
00:17:27
Speaker
I was wondering, is Mac's phone still there? think it is. Is it still somewhere? Okay, maybe she will. um And then hopefully Aaron will just wake up at a clinch point moment, maybe just as John is about to kill him. I don't know.
00:17:43
Speaker
Yeah, I wonder if we're going to have like John being about to kill him, whether whether or not Aaron's conscious and able to stop it, and then Victoria bursts in and stops it. Yeah. Or Chaz or
John's History and Potential Revelations
00:17:54
Speaker
someone. I mean, yeah, we'll let you say Victoria finds the phone and puts things together. Because sometimes people in Emile...
00:17:59
Speaker
pretty pretty thick most of the time but occasionally they just put things together in a matter of seconds based on very few clues well especially if she's met with Robert and he's been like I know this sounds crazy but John is the killer and he's got Mac in a dungeon and then Vic will be like don't be silly and then walk in and see something like that maybe dear sweet Mac will be rescued because he's currently I didnt think didn' think you mentioned John left him with a needle full of a syringe full of something that will painlessly kill him if he decides he wants to be put out his misery which is uh quite the uh mind f whatever the flight you said that so gently gently it's not it doesn't come naturally to me yeah another thing i didn't know you know you know you know insist
00:18:49
Speaker
listen since um another thing I wondered about was whether either hospital staff or somebody from John's past might crop up and start to wonder why John loves to put his partners into comas and then like hang around to try and stop them waking up and telling the truth maybe Aidan's mum will be there yeah exactly because he does love to do that that's his whole thing Yeah, that's that's his favourite thing. And as we said earlier this week, it is a love language.
00:19:20
Speaker
Yeah, we're not disrespecting that. Everyone's different.
Emmerdale's Cliffhangers and Viewer Tensions
00:19:23
Speaker
We can't judge him on that being the way he shows affection, but it does need to stop. Yeah, but there are limits to how often you should and should not put people into comas.
00:19:33
Speaker
Also another cliffhanger that they didn't really resolve as well as the axe is that one, I think Thursday's episode ended with um John in Aaron's hospital bedroom, which side point, still NHS is doing well in Houghton because they've got their own rooms.
00:19:48
Speaker
um Yeah, we just see him hanging out with Aaron and being like, I think we both know it's better if you never wake up. And then the next day everyone's like, yeah, Aaron's not doing well, but he's still stable. And I'm like, what?
00:20:00
Speaker
You can't just throw that kind of thing at the end of an episode and then not tell us what happened. Yeah, he's just like, just popping this down here and to be revisited later.
Aaron's Realization and Turning Point
00:20:10
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. put a pin in it for a later date. Yeah.
00:20:14
Speaker
I did enjoy when Aaron was pulling things putting things together, how... quickly and naturally being repulsed by John came to him you could sort of see that Danny had been like holding that one in for for a year it's just like I'm ready i yeah have long felt disgusted by being I loved that line when I think John had like just given him another glass of drugged water and been like you need to take care of yourself do you and understand and you just see him go I understand and like not drink the water and I was like he gets it finally and then at one point John did to call him good boy and that was that was a lot to take yeah that was yeah it was tricky that was tricky but I was thinking imagine how impactful this whole storyline would have been had Aaron and John's relationship ever for a moment been believable ah like if we'd actually invested in their relationship and all came down
00:21:06
Speaker
Yeah, so true. Imagine if they'd had chemistry or imagine if like we were behind them as a couple, we would be like, what heck is going on? It would be a lot of conflicting thoughts. And of course, the reason that um we shouldn't have said the reason that Robert turned up there is because Paddy realised that he's been talking to John on this helpline and he misinterpreted what ah confidentiality meant. He was like, does that mean tell every single person I encounter? like i would I'm spreading that news.
00:21:35
Speaker
i there is I don't want to leave a stone unturned in making sure everyone in the village knows that he was on that helpline. Yeah, so true. I mean, to his credit, he did try to raise it with the actual like helpline people.
00:21:48
Speaker
like He did try and go through the proper channels and they were like, this doesn't sound like as big of a deal as you think it is. So, you know, and this is the only time that um Liam has ever stuck to the Hippocratic Oath.
00:22:01
Speaker
That's true. It didn't feel like it's that naturally with him. he didn't seem comfortable with it but he at least kept it like technically but trying to think robert told sorry paddy told robert then aaron then he's told chas he's told moira detail like he's he's popping that one around yeah it's lovely it's a lovely thing he's into i guess if you're a vet like it's not an issue you're constantly telling other people about the issues with your patient so maybe that's why it's just like yeah i guess it's just second nature
00:22:36
Speaker
yeah oh sweet paddy he was really trying to help and in a lot of ways he kind of did yeah in a way mean i guess harren might have died i guess he might have died either way um I did think it's strange that John and Paddy didn't recognize each other's voices because the first time the like the line was clearly very unstable and that was fine. But the second time they're just having an open conversation. does this phone line have like distortion in it that we're not aware of?
00:23:00
Speaker
Yeah. Paddy's got quite a distinctive way of speaking. How much time have they spent together though? Because we always talk about the fact that Aaron and Paddy aren't really that close anymore and that's a real shame. Which was lovely at the hospital bed when he was like, I'm going to be a better dad to you. god. I was going to say that was one of my highlights.
00:23:20
Speaker
Because yeah, we always say about how they used to have this really nice friendship and now they kind of just don't really talk to each other. and now hopefully the writers are going to follow up on that and we'll see more of that really nice father-son dynamic that we so love to see.
Listener Contribution and Community Engagement
00:23:35
Speaker
yeah i hope so because he was best man wasn't he but i think that was probably it felt like fleeting yeah uh there's just a couple other things i wanted to say about this storyline to date i don't know how much you've got more to say but um or one is like tracy had a moment of being a detective again something about like i just don't think owen could have carried no it's like well where was this a few months ago tracy when you're making your terrible little lists yeah literally um
00:23:59
Speaker
Yeah, so she's, you know, better late than never. ah what One is just like Lucy Paget, who plays Chaz, was so good in the hospital scenes when she was like going the news for her. And she's, you know, she's not had that much to do in the past few months, um but she can really bring it when she needs to.
00:24:13
Speaker
Yeah, I thought she so convincingly played that like feeling of anxiety where you just can't function. You can't think about anything. And i was like, oh, yeah, that's what that feels like, isn't it? I get it. Yeah.
00:24:26
Speaker
Also, Charles and Liam have not been seen in the same room for many months now until last week. No, I think everyone, including both characters, have forgotten that they're engaged.
00:24:37
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. exactly No wedding planning, no time spent together. They shouldn't need to look at each other, I guess, to be engaged. And no real like no real sense that they actually like each other.
00:24:49
Speaker
no yeah it's not a relationship i am convinced by in any way especially because do you remember when it just sort of arrived it just happened like he was already with ella and
Speculation on Storyline Resolutions
00:25:00
Speaker
then suddenly out of nowhere it was like sorry i'm actually in love with this woman i've barely looked at before this is and i think they had been in a relationship previously so maybe it was rude but but not it was fleeting yeah and who knows potentially the parent of some child that we've never seen we just can't roll that out I'm sure and and my final thought is I think I've maybe had enough of how much I can hear the word gorge it was a lot talking about a gorge
00:25:29
Speaker
I don't remember hearing it at all oh my gosh, it's in the hospital, they're going to be like, oh, they fell into a gorge, something's in the gorge. Why have we just all agreed it's a gorge? And why must be all?
00:25:40
Speaker
Because I was thinking, they kept on saying that they were thrown off a cliff, and I was like, that's not a cliff. You're like, it's a gorge. Well, yeah, I don't know. It just sort of looked like the edge of Brimham Rocks, which actually it might have been. haven't been to Brimham Rocks, but I have seen photos of and it is in Yorkshire.
00:25:56
Speaker
um I have been to River Rocks and it might, I mean, it's got perhaps that they look like they could be that. Yeah, well, who's to say? But I was like, it doesn't look like a cliff. It doesn't look like a sheer, well, it does kind look like a sheer drop. Maybe I'm just not defining cliff. It looked like a river with a really water low water level, which we have had this summer.
00:26:19
Speaker
yeah yes and that raise is what a gorgeous but i i mean i was thinking when they panned out to the cliff height like obviously john couldn't decide whether this argument happened necessarily but i did think you jump off that like you're pretty sure you're going to break an ankle break a leg i wouldn't it's not a height that i would expect to be able to kill someone but yeah i was thinking like i think he did want to kill aaron But he didn't think it through because I don't think a cliff drop that... Yeah, you would have like life-changing injuries.
00:26:46
Speaker
I don't think he would die and that's what we're realising. You're like, could move his argument to a slightly sheerer, cliff? Give ourselves options. Did anybody bring a stepladder?
00:26:58
Speaker
ah So what's your hopes for the next next week of ah of this, or next fortnight to this story?
Hopes for Character Redemption
00:27:04
Speaker
Hopes and dreams, I guess, are that... um that Vic goes to see Robert and she might not be convinced, but she at least has the seed of doubt about her current belief that Robert killed them.
00:27:19
Speaker
And then, um maybe on the way home from the hospital, or she pops by Creepy Cottage to get John some more clothes, finds Mac's phone. The plot thickens for her personally.
00:27:30
Speaker
And then when she gets back to the hospital, she prevents John from killing Aaron and it all comes out. However... I think that we're a while away from that. I think it's still going to be a couple of weeks.
00:27:44
Speaker
Oh my gosh. I think I'm ready for it to wrap up now. Like I'm happy for us to explore the prison stuff as a separate storyline. I think that'd be good. But I need poor Mac to get out of that bunker.
00:27:57
Speaker
he just, he hasn't eaten for like a week at this point. like I don't understand how he's not dead. Yeah. And didn't you say that you saw online that he's going to be in there until Thursday?
00:28:07
Speaker
At the very least, yeah. He's still there on Thursdays. Mini spoiler, sorry. But um I just, yeah I really hoped on that day when everything was happening, that that was it.
00:28:18
Speaker
Like, John would fall, Mac would be really big, like, tension over, back to lovely lives. But I think Emmerdale does love to drag out some, like, we know that some stories, they go slightly too long, and I do think this one is going now. Like, if we've got another couple weeks, I think it's just too much. You need to, like, yeah need to give us a rest.
00:28:36
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, to be fair, I guess we heard, didn't we, that John was going to be in the programme until October. That doesn't mean that he is found out in October. Surely it would be around now and then he's out of the programme
Gabby's Wedding Preparations and Blackmail
00:28:48
Speaker
in October. Yeah, maybe. be really hope so.
00:28:53
Speaker
Difficult though, because I'm on holiday again next week. Lizzie. I know. i think you should arrange to have your holidays entirely at the weekends. Never miss a weekday.
00:29:04
Speaker
Short breaks only. Yeah, exactly. You can pop you can pop to Greece for a lovely weekend. It's fine. Yeah, a long weekend. Sure. Choose a bank holiday weekend. weekend you got three holidays.
00:29:15
Speaker
Thank you. You're welcome. I don't have much else other than that storyline because it has been the main thing that's been going on. but It has really dominated. i guess the other thing that we were very excited about was Vinny finally telling Cami what happened. And we both, i think, were very moved by Cami when he was like, you're my boy.
00:29:34
Speaker
she's like oh my gosh cammy vinnie's been so awful to you and you obviously we know why but you didn't know why and you're so forgiving and such a good friend and like everyone needs a cammy friend in their life literally he's such an example of forgiveness and love and we love to see it um Yeah, I really, i found it moving the scene where Vinny is just like crying on his shoulder and it's like, you just need to let it out and just release.
00:30:06
Speaker
And then tells him everything. um yeah But of course, sweet, sweet Cami tries to help and it does quite heavily backfire. you want to explain what happens?
00:30:17
Speaker
Yeah, I wrote in my notes, we love Cami, but his plan is nothing. so yeah he decided to log on to the same... um like forum to talk about sexuality that Vinny had been on. Apparently ah blackmailing Mike is the only person manning this forum. So I don't know if he's to set up the whole thing, but can we correctly predicted, and maybe it's, maybe he's like the only person in that region. I don't But can we correctly predicted that Mike would be the one who turned up at the, their lay by, um which is apparently the only place that you can have these conversations.
00:30:47
Speaker
And I thought, he's going to beat him up. Maybe he's going to like record him, he's going do something. But no, his plan was just to like, grab mike's phone and run and he got maybe four feet before that plan came to nothing yeah and yeah as mike pointed out obviously i've backed things up like the cloud cammy the cloud yeah you don't even have to intentionally back things up these days you just have everything online yeah Don't steal someone's phone.
00:31:14
Speaker
That's We live in a cloud world. And rather than just be like, okay, I guess my plan
Vinny's Blackmail Troubles and Impact
00:31:18
Speaker
hasn't worked. He's like, I need you to know that Vinny is getting married tomorrow. Here is the venue. Here is the time. it was like, do make sure you can make it.
00:31:26
Speaker
Did you not get your save the date? Yeah, save that date. And obviously Mike turned up and threatening and quite boldly, I think in a pub full of people. um you Black Mania again.
00:31:39
Speaker
And I guess Mike must know the police are on to him. well, maybe they don't, maybe the police were building a case before they like confronted him. Yeah, I think I got the impression they were building a case and they couldn't do anything about it until they had some solid evidence because they were like, Vinny, you're the only one where there's a paper trail or because you bank transferred him.
00:31:55
Speaker
So we need your evidence. And so I think it was just like, as we love to say, the police just gave up because they couldn't do anything yes yeah they're like we tried so yeah i mean i kind of feel like it's not going to come to a head anyway because surely gabby's gonna cancel the wedding given that all three of her mothers can't come her although we did see um kim is back but angry laurel laurel broke her leg or something don't think yeah and benice simply does not care for her
00:32:27
Speaker
Vinny's is not interested or invested in any way. Yeah. I just think that like, this is scary. The thought of him turning up and outing you on your wedding day. He's got a very easy out in that he can just be like, you did say if it's too much with Aaron, that I could cancel the wedding.
00:32:43
Speaker
So I think yeah it is too much with Aaron after all. And also, wouldn't you like to do it when at least one of the mother figures in your life can be there? It's fine. Mike doesn't out you.
00:32:54
Speaker
And then you can calmly explain to everybody the truth. Yeah. And I did think using Aaron as an excuse is like Aaron would it be desperate not to attend that wedding. He like the only blessing of being in a coma is not to have to go to that wedding. Surely. Yeah. I mean, i kind of saw it more as like no one's going to be in the mood to celebrate rather than like Aaron would be gutted to miss this.
Wedding Storyline Predictions
00:33:16
Speaker
Aaron would. Yeah. Aaron simply is not interested. Yeah. Oh, poor Vinny. Yeah, I guess you're right. Like, i didn't know where came really thought when I saw in the spoilers that Cami had a plan that Mike was going to be like of the picture this week. but Me too, but it's actually the worst. I hadn't factored that Cami's plan is absolutely dreadful.
00:33:36
Speaker
I think that they really played us. They dropped in those spoilers to make us think that it's all going to be resolved and it's going to be really satisfying. And actually, it's literally the opposite. I'm dissatisfied. it's weird no it's that i i did think an interesting little tidbit was when vinnie revealed that cammy was called cammy and not zayn which i wondered if zayn was a nod to the fact that he does look quite like zayn malik at times but maybe not um and mike was like oh this is the one you've got a crush on it's like interesting because in cammy's point of view i think he thinks that mike was just not mike vinnie was just like confused about his sexuality not necessarily they had a specific crush on cammy so that that was an interesting little
00:34:13
Speaker
Yeah, although thought that when he um when he told Cammie about the whole thing with Mike, that he had said something about, I can't remember why it came up, but he mentioned like having feelings for someone while being engaged.
00:34:30
Speaker
and that And when he said that, I was like, oh, you're saying that you have feelings for him. I don't know. Yeah. And thank you, actually, side note, for a really interesting email from, well,
00:34:40
Speaker
Someone under the name Sunday Sunday. assume that is not their real name. We don't know that. We don't know. Could be Sunday Sunday. um Who basically talked a lot through the history of Aaron and Adam. Because we'd said in the previous episode that I thought that Aaron was just like confused about sexuality rather than actually being in love with Adam. and more Yes, that was in our history throwback episode to Aaron coming out, wasn't it?
00:35:04
Speaker
Of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But apparently in a time that I was not watching it all came up a conversation with Edna who was like a busybody sort of Claudette before Claudette about Aaron like holding a candle for Adam.
00:35:17
Speaker
Oh, interesting. That's sweet. So yeah, I guess what I think that's going the next big story for the next week at least is the whole like wedding. And maybe that's why it takes so long for Mac to get out of that dungeon because we're just weddinging.
Gabby's Wedding Planning Critique
00:35:31
Speaker
We're just weddinging, yeah. I guess it might be a week or four days, whatever, in our timeline, but it could all just be one. Like, maybe the wedding will be over, like, three days. We don't know.
00:35:40
Speaker
Yeah, that's true. It is interesting how Emmerdale does seem to follow different timelines depending on, sort of, the week or month that it is. Sometimes it'll be, like, a week's worth of episodes is one or two days, and sometimes it will be, like, one day to the next follows normal life.
00:35:55
Speaker
They just march to be program, I guess. yeah like gregory the great um for example perfect ah a couple of things i did think about the wedding prep so where gabby firstly where gabby went to the the salon to get her nails done which originally were going to be wedding nails and now we're just like make you happy nails whatever yeah they don't care to make her happy though no she does hate them ah Mandy had as far as I could tell three choices of nail colour in that salon she's rummaging between and one of them was orange she's carved out a niche okay it's like which would which of these garish colours would you like in those simply the only options yeah and then when Gabby was in the pub with Vinny like ticking off things on the checklist i was like what are you paying Belle for this is surely the only thing a wedding planner would do and you're doing it all and where pray is Belle
00:36:47
Speaker
ah Where is she? i really hope that she's doing this mate's race or volunteering because she has provided precisely no services or goods. Yeah, literally where? And especially because isn't she meant to be a dating... Maybe she got distracted by dating Cammie and she's like, I've got my own romance to think about. I don't need to plan your wedding.
00:37:05
Speaker
And I get it. People should drop their jobs if they start dating someone new.
Future Romantic Pairings for Gabby
00:37:09
Speaker
Yeah, that's, I think, how it works. I wouldn't know, obviously. yeah It's none of our business, personally speaking. But, um yeah.
00:37:20
Speaker
Yeah. no Interested to watch this face. i like that Gabby and Vinny are getting a bit of time at the centre of the show because i you know they don't often get big stories. say yeah Yeah, true.
00:37:32
Speaker
um Yeah, I just, I obviously would be sad for Gabby if she didn't get married. But think if she does get married, it will just end quite quickly because of all of this stuff and being like, why didn't you tell me that?
00:37:45
Speaker
yeah about this i was listening to the actress whose name i can't currently remember on the inside soap podcast rosie bentham thank you so much rosie bentham which is a strong name and um She obviously wasn't was trying to avoid spoilers, but also quite clearly saying that they're not to get married. Yay!
00:38:06
Speaker
She wants them to be friends, and maybe she needs an older man who's a bit more sensible or something. Or no, funny. She was like, she needs someone funnier. I was like, Vinny's often been quite a comic character. i can actually see Gabby and Liam.
00:38:17
Speaker
Oh, that's interesting. I think Liam was at one point married to slash dated her mother. But, you know, that's that's part of the course. I just think they're both kind of middle class, a bit annoying at times, but sweet or cool.
00:38:31
Speaker
Yeah. Imagine if that's how you match made our actual friends. I mean, all my friendss middle class, but and most of them can be annoying. But that's thank you not true. I'm very seldom annoyed by any of my friends. It is true that they're almost all middle class because that's my life, I guess.
Highlights and Observations from Emmerdale
00:38:45
Speaker
I guess um yeah who else would she be with or I can see her just going totally rogue and being like I need someone totally different Divinity and I don't know like having a thing with Ross Ross I mean i do sort of assume that every woman at some point would have a thing with Ross he does he does like to spread himself around if that's an acceptable thing to say I don't know if it is but you have said it I have said it and I certainly regret it but um and have the power to remove it and yet won't so uh I was wondering this actually leads into my first it's not really highlight so much of the question um maybe her and Billy could be quite fun oh my word Billy's still alive I forgot about him completely I know I mean I do want Billy and Manpreet to be a thing that's that's attested to but um yeah I wrote down where is Billy
00:39:36
Speaker
to a lesser extent where is bob that was my my point because like who is bob who is bob you know bob he's like ah older he runs the cafe oh cafe bob yeah of course who controversially i think would be on top of my list of people to axe after jay i think he's quite sweet even though i live he's been there forever he's just got nothing absolutely nothing to do anyway he's nice with Nicola I'm worried like a bit about Billy because we just never seen never see him now and I think we just understand know what to do with him now he's not with Dawn like we need to give Billy a storyline or at least some sort of screen presence yeah he is not very rooted at the moment and he doesn't have any purpose other than like beating people up yeah but anyway that was my I mean I'm used i had to word highlight so very very loosely but it's just like where is Billy is my is my highlight
00:40:29
Speaker
Yeah, where is Billy? It's a great highlight. I don't really have much else that I would call a highlight other than... um and this This isn't a highlight at all, it's just something to say. um feel really sorry for Ross at the moment with this whole baby thing.
00:40:43
Speaker
Because it is abundantly clear that they're like Charity is pregnant with his child. And that he is not... getting to even really talk to her about it She's just in so much denial.
00:40:55
Speaker
But like, he does have a right to know and she's just being like, shut up and leave me alone. She loves to scream at him when he asks, but I would say, a quite logical and sensible questions. Exactly. So I feel quite sad for him like when he saw the ultrasound and was cut clearly just like, oh, and then didn't like know what to say. so it was just really defensive. And he's like, I get why you would act like that. But it's also really like it is going to come out, obviously, because it's Emmerdale.
00:41:19
Speaker
It's traumatic for Ross. It's traumatic for Sarah and Jacob. It's traumatic for Charity in a self-inflicted way. Like all of it's just going to be so messy. Yeah, I do think Michael Parr in that scene when he was looking at The Oddest Sounders really brought it like such, he's one of the best actors in it, I think. And he can the drama, he can do the comedy, he can do the pathos.
00:41:40
Speaker
And yeah, it was really moving.
Children's Roles and Interactions in Emmerdale
00:41:42
Speaker
Yeah. Well done, Ross. Well done, Ross. One of my notes I made was just seeing Eric in the pub was a jump scare.
00:41:51
Speaker
And I don't really know what it was. It was just like when it panicked on like, oh my, what do you doing? Like, I don't know. lost. It's like, i feel like you should be in the shop or in your living room. And I don't like it that you're here.
00:42:03
Speaker
he is rarely there, actually, isn't he? Yeah, not for a while. And then Robert speaking him, it felt like he was interacting with a ghost in some way that I can't fully explain. Are you okay?
00:42:14
Speaker
i It was one of those things where I was like what is going on? And I thought, oh actually, all that's happening is that a long-running character is in ah in a famously popular set. But for some reason, it really hit me hard.
00:42:25
Speaker
It's really taken quite toll on you, would see. Yeah, was really out of it for the most of the rest of that scene. And I can't explain it, and I don't want to.
00:42:36
Speaker
might have to go Felt as if he was talking to ghost. Again, I don't want i i don't want any follow-up questions. I've said what I've said. i've said Yeah, I guess he is sort of inherently spooky.
00:42:53
Speaker
I'll give you that. He truly is. I think our highlights are probably the worst they've been for a while, but I think more than any other... period we've done an episode about it really has been dominated by big story yeah I think we should downgrade them from being called highlights to just like lights just like things that we noticed um but one of the lights I noticed was um you know um ah gosh what is Tracy and Nate's daughter called Frankie Frankie's first day at school where Tracy pulls her out because other kids are saying her dad's been murdered which was obviously more about Tracy than Frankie, but anyway, like pulled her out of school because it was too much for her to hear these other children saying her dad's been murdered.
00:43:31
Speaker
And then sits her down at one of the inexplicable gingham tables in the shop and tells every other customer, had to take her out of school because they've been saying her dad's been murdered. And I was like, you're doing the same thing really loud. And she's right there. It's so true. And Look, Frankie, firstly, does not care that her dad is dead. Like, it doesn't bother. Every time she's in a scene where it's mentioned, she's like, so sure. like Like, can we move on?
00:44:02
Speaker
i know. wish she'd stop talking about it. Every now and then, she's like, is that upstairs? It's like, oh how stupid i this child? She's like four, Simon. Yeah.
00:44:15
Speaker
of course it's upstairs mean she didn't say it's upstairs i'm castigating of something that i have just advocated but you are evil that's the conclusion um speaking of children we don't see very much of i when gaby mentioned thomas the other day was like have we actually seen thomas i don't remember seeing thomas and who he's looking after of the time Wait, Gabby has a son.
00:44:41
Speaker
yeah, Gabby has a son. So true. Yeah, and they also, at one point, I wrote this down. what was it? um John was saying to matt I don't remember why when he was chained up in the bunker.
00:44:56
Speaker
Think of charity and your sister and Moses and your son. It's like, nobody knows that son's name. And Max said he's even forgotten that he exists. yeah yeah Max just being like, oh yeah, I guess I have a son.
00:45:09
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, I did find the scenes with Moses hard to take, if I can be honest. Yeah, you texted me saying he was a really bad actor. And I was like, I think he's quite sweet and he's doing an all right job. But clearly you disagree.
00:45:22
Speaker
I don't know. i guess maybe I'm asking too much. But when they were like, oh, Mac and this child and Moses are so close, it's like I'm almost certain they've never set eyes on each other.
Generational Fashion Perceptions
00:45:30
Speaker
Why do you love children so much?
00:45:35
Speaker
Well, I mean, I'm trying to think if there are children in Emmerdale that I do like. um Well, I loved April when she was a little girl, but I guess she's she's still technically a child, but only just. i Kyle's all right. Don't mind, Kyle.
00:45:47
Speaker
Yeah. um Is Kyle the one that stabbed with the pitchfork or the younger one? Because I think the younger one's so cute. He's a sweetheart. He's Isaac, maybe? Yeah, Isaac. Kyle's the pitchfork one.
00:45:59
Speaker
Isaac's my favourite. He was so cute when he lost that lamb. oh yeah, that sweet. Where's Minter? Where's Minter? Oh my Minter. And we did have, just before we recorded, little message message back and forth, re a certain prop slash eyewear choice that we saw.
00:46:19
Speaker
Yes. Simon texted me saying it's why what was it you say just so like it's regrettable how awful Arthur looks in his glasses. i think I said Arthur's glasses are very upsetting. And I was like, I was literally going to bring up the fact that think he looks really cute in his glasses and they really suit him.
00:46:37
Speaker
I think he looks like an old, old, old man. But what we realised is that, you know, i vividly remember almost every moment of the 90s, whereas you, of course, were only born like halfway through them.
00:46:49
Speaker
ah Yeah, 93, which is earlier other than that, I guess you don't really have any memories until a bit later. Yeah, and I was born in 85, so i like i don't remember like 1990 or whatever, but I do remember like, let's say 91 onwards.
00:47:03
Speaker
And so whenever... You remember my birth, I presume. I vividly remember your birth, and despite not meeting you for several decades after that. ah And so for me, anything that's like ninety s inspired that comes back, um all I can associate it with is the sort of person who never stopped wearing that from the 90s, which is old people.
Recalling Geographical Locations
00:47:24
Speaker
Yeah, whereas I'm like, wow, that's cool and fresh. That's like what we grew up watching on Friends. He does look a bit like Hank Azaria's character in Friends, and I don't mean that as a compliment.
00:47:35
Speaker
Who, pray, is that? um What's his name? David? It's the one that Phoebe was in a relationship with. He moved to Yemen. Oh. No, Minsk. He moved to Minsk. Minsk. He moved to Minsk. They say that a lot.
00:47:48
Speaker
Yeah. um Which is in, I want to say, Russia. Well, I think it's in the Czech Republic. Okay. I could be wrong. Cool. Or cha-cha, as we call it now.
00:48:01
Speaker
and like to keep up to few things. I'm Googling it. Minsk is the capital of Belarus. We're both wrong. So there we go.
00:48:09
Speaker
It's lovely to see how over-educated both are. I mean, in your defense. red of be niche areas In your know defense, when David went there, it probably was part of the USSR or something that might have still existed.
00:48:22
Speaker
And I'd probably like just been born, whereas you should know better. I should have kept up to speed with Minsk,
Character Focus Discussion
00:48:28
Speaker
you're right. Thank you. It's good of you to admit it.
00:48:32
Speaker
Cool. I guess we're all done with that. Should we do a random character show? Here we go. The first thing we're going to talk about what we think we're going to show, dear me, it is Rodney.
00:48:48
Speaker
Oh, I like him when he pops up very rarely in a leather tie. you see that's like Well, yes, apparently it's It's the actor's choice. It was like a tribute to his dead daughter or something.
00:49:03
Speaker
I don't know who it's in tribute to, but the actor has specified that he will always wear it. And so I guess it's just become a part of Rodney as well. So Rodney is Nicola's dad. And I don't know if he ever... oh and Bernice's dad.
00:49:15
Speaker
And I don't know if he... backtracking. Mine are not true, but um maybe... Anyway, he's Nicola's dad. And I don't know if he was ever like... a proper like full-time cast member who has storylines and stuff but certainly since 2010 when I started watching he has never had a storyline and usually pops up maybe like once every two months sure yeah I have always also just seen him sort of crop up at events like um Eric's 80th 90th we don't know that's um major birthday and I quite like how he brings a bit of like
00:49:53
Speaker
Do you remember when this happened and it was like ages ago in Emmerdale and like he's known some of the characters for a really long time and he's not just like flitting in and like doesn't have any sort of foundation in the program.
00:50:05
Speaker
But in another way, he's very much flitting in and doesn't have any foundation in the program because like, as you say, he has no storyline. He doesn't really seem to pay any attention to his daughter, that kind of thing.
00:50:16
Speaker
Who's Nicola's mum? it was oh what's the oh diane no that's bernie get this mixed up either she shares one parent with bernie and it's either diane or it's rodney i think it's rodney so i don't actually know who your mom is yeah because i don't think it was didn di on aidale i mean lots who's emily kirk is that yeah sir Emily Kirk was like married to Paddy at some point maybe. Okay that's actually wrong that was an AI summary and we should never believe the AI summary. It's Maureen Blackstock.
00:50:51
Speaker
Maureen Black. No idea who Maureen Blackstock is. Rodney's second wife and the mother of Nicola King. Maybe she never popped up. But yeah I do like when he used to be in it you know 15 years ago all his storylines were about how and I'm so sorry to use this word the podcast Randy he was who would be a lot about like like dates you've gone on with younger women, you'd be like... hey um yeah If anyone wants to clip that, just get themselves to sleep at night, feel free. I personally never want to hear that noise again.
00:51:27
Speaker
So... I hope it's the actor's choice to only pop in occasionally because it would be quite sad if he's always just like waiting for the next script.
Rodney's Impact and Actor's Choices
00:51:34
Speaker
Like maybe now's the time that Rodney gets his time in the spotlight.
00:51:38
Speaker
No, surely he's semi-retired and just enjoys popping in every now and again. i hope so. Because apparently the actor, was it Patrick Brewer, was quite was quite big in the 80s. So like it was one of their like wasn't like the only job he's ever had.
00:51:52
Speaker
whom And now he just pops in occasionally and like, I'll look after the grandkids. And that's it. Yeah, fair. um Also on my um little researching stint there, Nicola's mum was only in like a few episodes in October 2001. She sort of cropped up and it turned out she was Nicola's mum. So wouldn't have known her anyway.
00:52:14
Speaker
mi go um Yeah, I mean, it is realistic to have these sort of lesser known people just in the background. And I think I just feel sad. the actor when he when he turns up are you crying really really moved think it's just because just fabricating in my head this like scenario where he's so desperate to be like i can show i've got give me like this big big like health storyline or like maybe know maybe i could be trapped in a bunker he's got something he's really i just picture he's go constantly going to the reducer's office being like i've got an idea for a storyline that's
00:52:51
Speaker
the exact storyline that's just happened but i'm the star of it but i know patrick calm down patrick have a sit down instead um yeah i guess we'll never really know whether that's been going on behind the scenes but something you could ask the lord in the new
Podcast's Social Media Engagement
00:53:06
Speaker
creation or i could just ask patrick i guess we'll pop in an email um yeah patrick if you're listening you're very welcome on the show come and defend your choices oh yeah that'd be really nice like presumably nobody who's at all involved in everdale is listening but it would be a kick if they were we'd love if you want to get in touch if you're listening dingleallaway.pod.gmail.com if we find out that like shebs is it shebs mia my can't remember his surname
00:53:37
Speaker
um who plays Cami is listening that I'd just be so happy because we love Cami so I am obsessed with him he's yeah he's like we were saying weren't we like this past couple weeks would have been relentlessly frustrating and miserable if it weren't for Cami offering a little bit of light Cami is a light in a dark place yeah but he has also recently brought darkness into an already dark place yeah no he's not doing he's not doing his best ah illuminating right now na we try have we had any farming content in the last two weeks as our final segment I think some of like Celia's machinations and also like un-machinations have been in the past two weeks don't know because we did talk about them last week did we a maybe last time maybe she hasn't she popped in once briefly and oh didn't Robert and Victoria come out of the whole plan to go into business with Moira and that was undone was that also two weeks ago i think that was also two weeks ago I haven't seen an animal in so long
00:54:36
Speaker
Yeah, no, maybe there hasn't been any proper farming content. We need to see a cow or some hay or a tractor or like something farming adjacent stat. Let's not forget that in the last episode, you were like, I've had enough. I don't want any more farming right now.
00:54:50
Speaker
No, I'd had enough of invisible farming of conversations about the legal rights to fields. I've never had enough of actual animals. Actual livestock. And tractors.
00:55:01
Speaker
We want more black stock, comma, Rodney. We want more livestock. Yeah, black stock and livestock. That should have been the name of this podcast, except no one would care for it.
Conclusion and Listener Invitation
00:55:11
Speaker
I would call this episode that, but I do think if anyone sees that episode is going to be Rodney-centric, that is not going listen.
00:55:19
Speaker
Yeah, no, I think we would end up with sort of negative streams at that point.
00:55:24
Speaker
ah Yeah, so we okay we need to find have a happy medium where actual farming, I'd love to see some different animals as well like maybe we see some hens maybe we get some donkeys involved i'd love to see some donkeys yeah i feel like there aren't i'm aware that i'm aware of any poultry farms but i can see people just having chickens in their gardens well i'm pretty sure that they used to at um bell and sam and lydia's used to lots of chickens that so true yeah and pigs they pigs didn't they really i think so
00:55:58
Speaker
I'd love a pig let's see some more pigs yeah that's psychic corner for this week that's a low ambition psychic corner let's see a pig in the next few weeks let manifest those but manifest those pigs those pigs it's not gonna be the title of this episode it might be you never know It'll keep people listening to the end because I'll just be like, what? What?
00:56:18
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When will they manifest the pigs? So true. And you can also follow us on dinklealltheway.pod on Instagram. And you want to give a little hint about the exact thing you shared there and in since the last episode?
00:56:32
Speaker
Yes, I was kindly gifted Emmerdale themed book from a friend who found in a charity shop. and it's got some horrible sounding recipes in the 80s that um apparently Annie Sugden loved.
00:56:48
Speaker
um And I can only apologise for the things I shared on there because they all sound disgusting, but it is quite an interesting little bit of Emmerdale fandom, I guess, from times gone by.
00:57:01
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yeah I enjoyed that. So after after little complaints, not complaints, just noticing that it was a restful, peaceful place. It's now frenetic, I'd say, with that one post. So yeah, had a sorry for everyone who was having a digital detox by following it I'm afraid that is over.
00:57:19
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ah Well, this has been fun. We'll be back in a couple of weeks and hopefully DMAC will be out of that bunker by now. Yeah, we hope and we pray. um Yeah, we love getting your emails. We love hearing from you online. So keep it coming.
00:57:34
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And yeah, thanks so much for listening. Bye. Bye.