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Everyone *still* owes Robert Sugden an apology (Emmerdale 15-26 September 2025)
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In our most hectic and tangenty episode yet, we talk about the release of Bunker Boy, the latest Robron developments, and the time Lizzie walked past Ned Porteous in Leeds. Simon also has a complete inability to say the phrase ‘Hotten Bypass Crash’. This may be the first and last time we attempt to record an episode after 10.30pm.
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Transcript
Introduction and Recent Travels
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to another episode of Dingle All The Way, an Emmerdale podcast. I'm Lizzie. i'm Simon. And it's been a big couple of weeks, obviously for us personally in that I went to Greece yesterday.
00:00:15
Speaker
And you, did you do anything while I was gone or just wait? I just pined for you. Yeah. but obviously That is what I assume.
Emmerdale's Dramatic Events
00:00:23
Speaker
um But it's also been a really big week in Emmerdale. Lots has been going on.
00:00:27
Speaker
It's Simon and I were just saying like, what's the big thing? feels there've been quite a few big things, but I guess the main thing we do want to discuss is the latest that's been going on with the whole, you know, Mac is stuck in a bunker. John is a serial killer, that kind of thing.
00:00:44
Speaker
That kind of vibe. Yeah, it amused me on Reddit that um someone whose name I presume is not anarchic dog, but does go by anarchic dog, ah did say when I posted the last podcast, can't wait for next week because it's always a big week after you do a podcast. It's like, yeah, you're right. We we do seem to got out of sync. But the last two weeks, I think, have both been jam-packed so there's there's plenty to talk about for sure um yeah no we've got a lot and especially we'll talk about all of these things separately I'm sure but um I wrote down that the the episode that came out on Wednesday the 17th was absolutely wild because we found out that Gabby slept with some random man in Portugal that Bernice Bernice and Bob got back together
00:01:25
Speaker
Aaron waked up from his coma. Waked up. Waked up. sha Yep. And was like, John's got Mac. John tries to kill Aaron and then discharges himself. And i was, I got to the end of the episode and i was like, I feel like we've been waiting for something to happen for about three weeks.
00:01:43
Speaker
And then suddenly like everything happened in the same episode. yeah It was a lot. Yeah. Like, and we've been saying we're ready for the story to come to conclusion, but it does seem to,
00:01:54
Speaker
I've just come to like eight different conclusions piled into one and really spiraled. Yeah, I'm kind of annoyed with it, to be honest, because I felt like it was coming to conclusion that they were like bringing all these threads together and that they were probably going to spin out for a while with John being on the run, but that we would have some closure.
00:02:13
Speaker
They are just taking it in a whole new direction that I truly can't be bothered to see it spin out. Yeah, it's very like Penelope coded, by which I mean... weaving and then at night unweaving it's a reference to the classics it's to the odyssey it's gonna be like truly have no idea what you're talking about it's homer um because yeah i thought we'd love a little bow on it and then suddenly caleb's involved and he's like driving someone to rotterdam or anywhere um liverpool or rome and so many co i was gonna say popular culture references is homer popular culture maybe
00:02:51
Speaker
I think maybe only in your household.
Lateness and Humorous Anecdotes
00:02:55
Speaker
Maybe it's because we were starting this recording at 10.30 at night I've lost all sense of everything. Truly, truly sorry about that. I never explained my rampant lateness. I mean, obviously I was meeting my former vicar for dinner, but um I then got a bit confused about how to cycle home and like took a wrong turning on the canal.
00:03:14
Speaker
gosh, lucky to be out home. But on my way home, did try to pass the Emmerdale Studios, so that was nice. Oh, that is good. Yeah, I just don't need all of this stuff of like then Kane having a vendetta against Caleb and like wandering around with guns. There was a period of Emmerdale like 10 years ago when the Dingles were constantly kidnapping each other and waving guns at them and I had enough of it.
00:03:34
Speaker
So i didn't love that. And i assume I assume it's not the end. But I guess I was thinking about ah through the time when John was, you know, the net was closing in on John.
00:03:46
Speaker
about this whole Anthony secret and how they're going to clear that up. And I guess the writers were also thinking that like, we've got this big thing and then why wouldn't he just go and tell the police? what I do love is the absolute unwavering belief of Caleb that John can't write a second email. He's he's like, that email was deleted. It's over. He can't possibly contact them again with this information.
00:04:07
Speaker
i was, yeah, I was so flummoxed by that. Like in no way did that seem like case closed to me because he can just write another email or he might send it later. like I think Caleb is just a fool. like Also, he left Cain tied up in his boot, but he also left the keys in the on the passenger seat.
00:04:29
Speaker
like Literally anyone could have just taken his car with Cain in the boot. What's going on there? So dumb. Yeah, and I i can see like no one surely who watches the show believed that Cain had actually killed John when an episode ended with a gun ringing out.
00:04:42
Speaker
But I didn't think that Caleb would just smash him over the head with a spade. It's like, just push him if you want him to not shoot him. Like, you don't need to knock him unconscious,
Pacing and Plausibility Issues in Emmerdale
00:04:51
Speaker
surely. Yeah, and then, like, quite swiftly, they were just back in the flat. And there was, I don't know. I just, I don't know if it's because I was, like, watching them all back to back the morning after I got back from Greece at, like, 1am.
00:05:02
Speaker
But I was just a bit like, all of this is just happening. And it seems really implausible. And I'm kind of annoyed about it No, i would say that just watching at a normal pace, I felt like that. I was actually, I did feel quite annoyed because was, It's like the pacing, i think Emmerdale's pacing this year has not always been brilliant. And I think they dragged this one out and then put too much in.
00:05:19
Speaker
And also, i'm not a medical expert, personally speaking. um But should you drive a car after you've recently been knocked unconscious? I suspect probably you should at least go and get checked out.
00:05:29
Speaker
Yeah, but I mean, do you think Kane has ever made a thought through decision in his eye? Well, I'm not surprised. He's probably been knocked unconscious hundreds of times. six He's got severe brain injury, I imagine. Yeah.
00:05:42
Speaker
two brain cells to rub together yeah I would quite like to I know we've been bopping around a lot topics wise it'd be good to backtrack because last time we spoke Mac was still in the bunker yes he was bless his sweetheart yeah sweet sweetheart be quite good just to sort of go back over how that ended up unraveling yeah so John had left him with this needle full of something who knows what that he could inject himself to to end his life which I think he did inject himself with at one point. Well, I was going to say there was some real ambiguity there because it looked like he was using it but then he also dropped it.
00:06:17
Speaker
I don't know if it's empty or full. So yeah, unclear, but I guess he he didn't die for for sure. He did scratch the name charity into the bed. He is still yet, as far as I'm aware, to mention the name of his child.
00:06:30
Speaker
and I don't know if anyone has contacted the mother of his child, whose name I've currently forgotten. um Chloe, maybe. Chloe? Chloe? I truly have no idea. BT dubs, the father of your child is currently locked in a bunker. I guess they didn't know he's in a bunker. So that would be a weird message to get.
00:06:47
Speaker
But at least that he was like off grid. Yeah. um And i I loved Ross referring to him later in conversation with charity as bunker boy. It's like, like like because Ross was actually being quite sensitive around Max's.
00:07:03
Speaker
missing and we we all know that sensitive raspberries are my heartstrings that's that's a fact ah but what i love is he can oscillate between genuinely being nice to charity and then just calling a bunker boy once he was safe because like you know you would you have to i think that completely passed me by but i really enjoyed that will be having any sort of trauma care like because i feel like you should go for intense trauma care how do you should on any occasion on which you are locked in a bunker for two weeks um plus and that's that's a vice take of 21 basically everybody in the village should be having intense trauma cap and none of them are no and i think this is the only reason that john could get away with his whole history of like here you know endangering people to do hero moves is because they're going to take it in stride people are having near-death experiences that's just a Thursday for them you know he wouldn't be able to get away this in any other community you
00:07:55
Speaker
Yeah, truly. And like every single episode, there would be something that makes national news, but that like, nobody seems to be giving it really the attention that is's due and it's it's a complete side note. I did like that the drug guy did know that April's mom was the one involved in like killing that other evil person. He's like, well, that was your mom. It's like, oh yeah, finally someone's heard of something that happens outside of the the village.
00:08:20
Speaker
Yeah, no, i thought that was quite cool. Especially because he was like, that guy was horrible. My debts died with him. like Yeah. ah On Bunker Note, I also enjoyed Paddy and when he found out saying, a bunker!
00:08:33
Speaker
And it was just the way he said it. He charmed me. love Paddy. I love him so much. I thought the charity was incredible in the scene where they found Mac. Like, her scenes were just excellent. Like, going into the bunker and then, like, yeah, when...
00:08:48
Speaker
She sees him in the hospital and when Matt wakes up, I think she did such a good job of like obviously being really emotional and so to traumatized by what she's seen. But also you can see in her mind how bittersweet it is as well because she's like, I'm probably pregnant with Ross's baby.
00:09:07
Speaker
And yeah, I thought her scenes were really excellent, but that a lot of the rest of it kind of felt quite flat. Like, and especially, and I'm sure we'll about this more, the lack of apologies.
00:09:19
Speaker
to Robert. my I mean like i think famously we want those apologies. Yeah we literally named an episode after it but yeah I just felt like charity scenes really really excellent really exciting and then the rest of it was just a bit like meh and like even Vic on the phone was just like yeah I should have believed you that was it and everyone else still just hates Robert and you're like what?
00:09:41
Speaker
Yeah I was thinking about the conversation you first had with Chaz And because the line she had, it was I wrote it down, it was along the lines of, I'm glad you're out of prison and I'm grateful, but I'm his mum and I'm asking you to stay away.
00:09:54
Speaker
And I think that could have been delivered in a way that was genuinely grateful, for but actually just like, this is really hard for me to say, but I think this is what is best for me at the moment that you don't see him. And it could have been a sort of quite hesitant thing where she was being, you know, appreciating it. But for whatever reason, the actress delivered it in the most hateful way. it was sort of like actually so horrible to him.
00:10:15
Speaker
And it's like, this poor man has just been to prison. Because i when this Fortnite episode started, of course, he was in prison, phoning people left, right and centre. um And it's everyone's just like, oh, yeah, so it's my bad, I guess. But also you are sort of horrible, so people are going think you're a murderer.
00:10:32
Speaker
And then the that was it.
Character Interactions and Emotional Depth
00:10:35
Speaker
We better get some more. really an apology. No. And I mean, i can i can I did like the scene where Aaron said, like, you're going to try and use this.
00:10:44
Speaker
against me when he was in the hospital bed because that is sort of what Robert might have done in the past. And Aaron was so wary. We'll talk more, I'm sure, about the ah later scenes for them this week, which I thought were really great.
00:10:57
Speaker
But yeah, to go back to Charity, absolutely agree. She was so good. I will say she's not the best like search and rescue person on account of like, she's like, all I know is I'm looking for an entrance to a bunker in this field and then trips over a metal handle. I was like, won't worry about that.
00:11:12
Speaker
Let's pop that. That's in the do not need to consider a category.
00:11:19
Speaker
She did offer a little to no help, but it was lovely to have her there. I also thought Tracy was very, very good. like Perfect reaction to finding out about John and just being so thrown. of like I totally trusted him and he was the one who put me at ease with all of this.
00:11:39
Speaker
and yeah I thought that was a really good scene. I'm so glad they raised that he spoke at the funeral because that must that be so devastating, wouldn't it? Yes. Yeah, definitely. like Because when he did speak at the funeral, like that was something that I found very like i found it really angering. I was like, he does not have the right doing this.
00:11:56
Speaker
Who does he think he is? So yeah, I'm also really glad that that happened. And I don't know whether Tracy actually mentioned the fact that like in that case, it must have been John who planted the phone at her house because she's been massively thrown under the bus by him.
00:12:08
Speaker
That's true. Yeah, I guess maybe some of these things are going to piece together off camera. I do want someone at some point to raise the slurry again because... I've written this like three times in my notes. Like, when will Mac be vindicated for the slurry? Vindicate Mac the slurry. Because that's annoying. like Bless him, still feels bad about it.
00:12:31
Speaker
Like, he still feels bad about it and he has absolutely no reason to. So annoying. And I don't know the ins and outs of slurry penalties. i know we got some intel on that while ago, but if they found out it was done by John, is the farm still liable? don't know. Oh, yeah.
00:12:47
Speaker
Well, hopefully not. Maybe John will just have to pay through the nose. Yeah. like, something. He'd sell that horrible cottage. I guess it still happened on their farm. That is true. I guess maybe you are still responsible.
00:13:01
Speaker
But maybe it'd be seen as, like, an act of vandalism rather than... like incompetence i don't know yeah something i'm a little bit worried about is um and i hope i'm wrong but kane and tracy are getting on well and they're piecing things together and i was like i would hate to see an affair i would hate that i don't want that And like I, in my own life, I'm such a firm believer in good male-female friendships that i I'm like, it'll be fine. But I've watched enough Emmerdale now to know that if a male and a female character are getting on, that might happen.
00:13:38
Speaker
Oh, that would
Humorous Moments and Observations
00:13:39
Speaker
be really sad. and maurice But I hope I'm wrong. Maury hasn't had like a good day in years. Has anyone in the village had a good day in years? or Maybe Cammy. mean, I just want to dart over to it.
00:13:50
Speaker
i mean i just want to dot which we and Should we? Yes, no, we have to. Someone had a good day and that man was Bob. but Or a good night, at least. Yeah, true.
00:14:00
Speaker
One of the few things that has amused me in this in this fortnight of quite miserable stuff was Bob and Liam's conversation about Bernice being a difficult woman to please. Yeah, I found that quite uncomfortable.
00:14:13
Speaker
Yeah, obviously I hated it, but also I loved it. Just going to the GP and being like, so we've slept with the same woman. It's just quite an unusual vibe. It's quite odd, um unless you are like swapping actual medical notes, but I'm i'm sure that's unnecessary.
00:14:29
Speaker
I mean, I know and love Bernice. This was, I assume, and a revelation for you. Have you have you encountered Bernice on your Rob Ron watching? Yeah, I've seen her in the Rob Ron watching, okay but not since then.
00:14:44
Speaker
I love her She's totally unhinged. And what I love is how she has that genuine, like you can see that she loves Gabby, but can also see why Gabby would be like, she's a total nightmare and I hate her.
00:14:55
Speaker
And it works. Yeah. It works. We get it. ah Sorry to jump all over that. But back to what the hospital actually, because um back when Robert was on the phone trying to get anyone to stop John going and killing Aaron and um John was just wandering around, I was thinking,
00:15:13
Speaker
If Robert had wanted Aaron to be protected, what what sort of hospital security is there? And I asked your friend of mine, Monty, Dr. Monty, to tell me a bit. You always think he's my friend. I've maybe met him like half of a time. i think he's really nice. I would just not call him friend. I will say that when I said it then it was deliberately to to rile you. And I walked straight into it. But honestly, like three or four times you've been like, I'm seeing Monty and I'm like, look, I'm pleased for you. But I don't, ah truly don't know who is. But we all went on holiday together that time.
00:15:47
Speaker
I wasn't there. I always think I was on that holiday. Anyway, that's my friend Monty and Lizzie's passing acquaintance. He was a doctor um currently working on a psychiatric ward, but has experienced lots of other places about how easy it is just to wander into a a hospital room at Wim.
00:16:08
Speaker
So, yeah, I'm a ah psychiatrist. So you'll be happy to know that it's actually very hard to get onto a psychiatric ward and the security is very good there. On a normal medical ward, I think it's very easy to get onto and no one really knows who anyone is.
00:16:25
Speaker
So if you sort of don a pair of chinos and um roll up your sleeves as a man, you'd quite easily and be mistaken for ah for a doctor, I think.
00:16:36
Speaker
Very easy. Anyway. Haunting.
00:16:40
Speaker
Thank you, Monty. And it's terrifying that anyone can just wander in. I guess in this case, it is also his husband, so it wasn't that surprising that he was allowed in, but have It didn't seem like he was being allowed in though because if any hospital staff were there they would have just been like you should still be in bed.
00:16:55
Speaker
That's true, yeah. They did seem to be light staffed. I think just wandered But still private private rooms all around of course. yeah Oh, obviously. don't think he really did a very good job of whatever he was trying to achieve. just like Was he like taking Aaron off a ventilator or something? Because didn't really do anything. know he just sort of like like twi twiddled his like breathing tube or whatever and I was like I've i've made I've made a sign yeah like he seems to be really bad at killing people and also really bad at saving people so like not really sure what's going on there yeah what he's really good at is just saying I'm a good person over and over again that is um I guess like like Jay's podcast just his daily affirmations but he has to scream at someone yeah I have been enjoying slash hating Jay's podcast scenes yeah
00:17:48
Speaker
Yeah, what will say to him, and this is advice I give to anyone listening to a podcast, is that you can just listen to them. You don't need to repeat every word you're hearing in the podcast out loud in front of others. What? I've been assuming that that's how people listen to this podcast.
00:18:00
Speaker
i hope I do hope so. And I hope you're doing the voices. at least half of our listener stats are just like people passing by other people listening um and i this is a note i must have written i don't remember writing this note but i put john you got sucked in and then slash sugden and i was like i think i was making some sort of like sucked-in sucked in sucked in sucked in point and that's uh that's something i could have kept to myself but I've shared it. I wish I knew why you were sharing this publicly.
00:18:34
Speaker
I'm going to enjoy whoever is just at a bus stop saying sucked in, sucked in, sucked in, sucked in aloud as they're listening to me say it.
00:18:43
Speaker
um Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know where to go from there. Yeah, no, I respect that. I've always written down hospital room posters, but since I didn't check what they actually were, that is next to meaningless. Yeah.
00:18:58
Speaker
ah Sometimes I just write things down. i don't know what they mean. I've got one at the top that just says supermarkets. Supermarkets. I mean, did did someone go to one maybe? Well, I think we said ages ago about the fact that like no one ever goes to the supermarket. They all just do like little shops at David's stores and they should definitely just like drive to the big Tesco.
00:19:17
Speaker
Yeah. They don't. They don't. um i My only psychic corner thing, if that's kind side corner, is I wrote down and because that it was nice to see Ross and April chatting again because we had um said before that it was sad that they seemed to forgotten about that relationship.
00:19:32
Speaker
Yeah, no, I clocked that as well. It was sad to see the way that that chat actually ended up going. But yeah, yeah something I also enjoyed um was when when John and Cain and Caleb are in the woods and John has his gun pointed in his face and says, are you just going to shoot me here in the middle of nowhere?
00:19:54
Speaker
I was like, that that spot of the woods is very clearly the exact spot where your stag party was. and also also where charity like fell over on a walk with mac and also where like we've just seen so many scenes there and you're like this is not the middle of nowhere you' you're very findable don't worry like someone for the village will be here asap at any moment someone's worried about to walk past yeah yeah no it's fair yeah what are your main reflections on the whole thing what do you think gonna happen next
00:20:27
Speaker
Well, I mean, I guess that I have a few other things I'll come back to, you but I think that takes us to the conversation that Aaron and Rob it had at Robert's slash Victoria's house, which was so sweet. it was like core Rob Ron stuff. It was like, if I was going to be the sort of person who made montages, some of that would be in there, but heaven knows I've got neither the talent nor the the wish to do that.
00:20:51
Speaker
um But, when Aaron lent him for the kiss and Robert was like, no, not like this. And that was actually very much like when Robert first made a move. So when Aaron first move made a move from Robert after he'd first told Robert about his dad raping him and Robert was like, no, not like this. and And Aaron thought, oh, you don't find me attractive anymore. Now you know that. And Robert was obviously like, no, that's not why it is.
00:21:13
Speaker
So Robert, just, I just love that Robert's so single-mindedly been like pursuing him, but it's still going to say like, no, if we, As you said, like if we get together now, it'll be over in a couple of weeks.
00:21:24
Speaker
um And he's just there to wait as mates. He's always saying mates, never friends. It's always as mates. Yeah, true. I do think the as mates thing, like, whatever.
00:21:38
Speaker
i don't think that you're ever going to do something as mates when you know you fancy each other. but like, sure. if thats I guess they're saying, like, we're not going to, like, be in an active relationship. and Yeah, what Robert means. so I don't think you can call that mate.
00:21:51
Speaker
He means i will be fully clothed, but I will be constantly making puppy up dog eyes at you. Yeah, exactly. Like, ah tough to call that friendship, I guess. um But yeah, I do think very considerate of ah Robert and like very kind to him because I'm sure he just wanted to kiss him back and like go for all this stuff. But yeah.
00:22:13
Speaker
Yeah. So, I mean, we know we're not, we won't say what it is. We know there's a spoiler coming that's going to be another like obstacle in that. in their reunion, which I've still got on the cards for Christmas, I think. So I guess what I'm hoping is that Aaron just has a bit of time to heal. Some people like supportive people there.
00:22:30
Speaker
I guess it's not gonna like center of the show for a bit. Maybe you'll just be healing in the background, but um i a lot of people are saying we're going to see John again, maybe like maybe at Christmas or something. I just, I don't want to see John again.
00:22:40
Speaker
I'm done with John. ae I've seen stuff online that we might see John again during Super Soaps Week in October. Oh, right. Okay. That's just like like people like us saying maybe be then. It's not like a spoiler, an official spoiler. It would make sense. so they they do i swear I think that's when Mina came back, um having like disappeared for a bit. So, yeah.
00:23:03
Speaker
They do love to bring back a killer for Super Soap Week. And anyone who's contracts up might be ah looking risky. Yeah. Yeah, true. um What is SuperSeries? Is that just like Emmerdale and Corey?
00:23:17
Speaker
Or does everyone get involved? That's a good question, actually. I only really know about it from Emmerdale. I don't know. Maybe the Hollyoaks or something? I don't know. I think it's just a sort of PR ah thing that sort of spiralled a bit. And I think some years, like ah I don't remember Emmerdale really doing anything particularly significant last year.
00:23:31
Speaker
So I think sometimes they just let it slide. But there was well, of course, hard to buy crap. Blah, blah, blah. hot and bypass crash i think i think i'm not having a stroke i think so hot and bypass a crash there we go have enduring supers oh there's no point finishing the sentence now we will very much get the gist oh my goodness um
00:24:05
Speaker
So i i what I do like about Super Soap Weeks is they often bring together lots of different
Speculation on Upcoming Events
00:24:10
Speaker
stories. So I'm hoping like maybe we'll get the charity Ross baby thing will come out and maybe something with Aaron and Robert.
00:24:18
Speaker
know what the storylines are bubbling away. Maybe maybe one of Gabby or Vinny or both secrets will will come out. Maybe April. Maybe April. Yeah.
00:24:29
Speaker
um yeah so So I can't remember exactly when it is, but it's usually like late October, isn't it? so yeah Yeah. I say that I actually don't know at all. Let's say it is. Gosh, I've got quite a few other notes actually around this. It's like, well, firstly, I've written like Liam has not been supporting Chaz at all. Like Liam, but it her fiancé. Liam is so absent.
00:24:49
Speaker
And i I think the show is sort of maybe regretting putting them together because it it is like they never seem to be together and it's quite awkward when they are. But um you think if your fiancé's son was in a coma, you might pop by to support them occasionally.
00:25:06
Speaker
He would have been a bit more evolved. All he's been doing is weeing on the allotment. yeah And his, his desperate need to urinate does seem to come and go quite a lot in a way that I don't think is medically accurate, but yeah.
00:25:19
Speaker
But you know, who has been supportive is lovely Ruby. Ruby and Aaron's scenes were beautiful. Yeah, really enjoyed Ruby and Aaron together. I think um Beth Cordingly and Danny Miller are some of the best actors in Emmerdale. So any scenes with them together, i think are amazing. But yeah, definitely on that subject matter of like, yeah, two survivors ah trying to support each other is really special because he did that for her when stuff was really bad.
00:25:46
Speaker
And it's like, this is so good. Yeah, I love it. when i was And with people you wouldn't necessarily think would have much in common, but they can. come together and as you say they are two of the best actors so it is particularly special and yeah we haven't seen much of ruby of late so i'm glad that she's coming back yeah definitely i hope you enjoyed the um the content we had from moses this week who you famously hate look i could see more that moses and um
00:26:18
Speaker
Mac did seem to have some sort of relationship that had never hitherto been shown on screen. but And i I now buy into it. So sure, it was very sweet. Again, it's a shame that he doesn't have the same affection for his actual biological child that he never cares about. But it's lovely that he's a good stepdad.
00:26:33
Speaker
And Moses seems to be on with Ross as well. Moses is having a lovely time. I don't think there's one brain cell in that head, but he's having a lovely time. Yeah, I was thinking, like, he just has no questions at all about the fact that, like, Charity quite recently was like, Mac is never coming back.
00:26:53
Speaker
And now he's just back and he's like, great, let's eat a Jaffa cake. And you're like, do you not have any questions about anything? he I haven't used this word for a while, but he is the very definition of gormless, think. Yeah, and he's very, very sweet.
00:27:09
Speaker
But, yeah, very gormless. Yeah, he he will for sure be recast in the next three years, I imagine. Because he's the centre of a lot of like big characters. like how yeah I do think having like a baby between Ross and Charity is great for keeping those characters um having lots to do when the kids are real older. At the moment it is just, don't forget to come up from footy practice or something. And that's the extent of his activities. will more.
00:27:37
Speaker
And it seems like they're having another baby probably anyway. Well, doesn't look like it's heading that way. It be the dump scare if wasn't Ross's baby now. Wouldn't it? They've set up so much to be Ross's baby that I'm almost like, maybe it isn't.
00:27:49
Speaker
Yeah. I'm so sad for Sarah. Unless Ross will just be like, you can adopt my baby to Sarah and Jacob. I don't know. Yeah, but it would still be so gutting, wouldn't it, if you were like, I thought this child was biologically mine. Yeah. Twist.
00:28:04
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It's not. Maybe they will never find out. Maybe it will come out and like, three years time or something no i imagine i'll come out in super soap week yeah it's it's a lot it's i mean charities had a lot going on it's interesting when they've got one of those ongoing storylines and then you have to interrupt it because your husband's been trapped in a bunker happens happened yeah happens um i enjoyed you know the the fallout from john's ne'er-do-well behavior hitting the doctor's surgery where they do
00:28:34
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As far as you can tell, a full audit in half an hour, which is very impressive. And Manpreet does- It's very speedy. Very speedy. They're efficient if if um constantly malpractice.
00:28:46
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That's not a verb, but I can't think what the verb is, malpracticing. And Manpreet doesn't lower her voice at all to talk about the total mismanagement of um in front of a waiting room full of patients.
00:28:58
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Yeah, I was thinking that. And then they're like gutted that people are cancelling appointments or being like, I need a second opinion on this stuff that John told me. But it's like, well, you very publicly air what's been going on. so you kind of don't have anyone to blame but yourself. Yeah, it's like you essentially put up posters for it.
00:29:15
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And that's for me the next step. They put it in the village notice sheet. It's on the WhatsApp group now for sure. Yeah. I wonder if all those sort of anonymous extras are also in the WhatsApp group.
00:29:27
Speaker
I was talking to a friend yesterday who um is a doctor and was like, I'd love to be an expert opinion ah great on your podcast. But I knew we already had Monty's one for this week. um But maybe in future we could ask him more. Because I was like, i basically explained briefly the situation with the doctor's surgery. And was like, yeah, there's like a CQC investigation. Like, what position would that actually put the practice in?
00:29:50
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And I can't particularly remember what he said. But he did say that it would probably like basically change like medical laws across the country if there was a case like this that happened and that there was a huge fallout after the stuff with like Harold Shipman where he was using drugs from presumably from his surgery um and that that completely changed the way that you have to monitor like the usage of stuff so like if it happened again that would be like it would be national news and would change policy and I was like well that's kind of big
00:30:24
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I'll get him to say more about that. Absolutely. Yeah. Great. Well, I'll get a voice in note for next week. Love it. ah My final couple of thoughts on this story, obviously you can't say more, is that you know Moira and Kane threw Vic off the farm because of when they thought Robert was the one who'd done it And they're like, we don't want anything to do with you because your brother killed Nate.
00:30:45
Speaker
Well, not killed Nate, sorry. Your brother it's just a baddie. I forget exactly what they were upset about specifically. But then when they find out John does it, they work on the back with their open arms. It's like, like it's still her brother and in in fact he did worse because he killed nay but i hadn't thought about that at all like why are you blaming vic for one brother and not the other yeah i guess they were never planning to go into business with john but like yeah that shouldn't have reflected on vic then so why does it now it's so weird people always try to find a woman to blame when a man's done something wrong
00:31:18
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thank you that's my little sarah bernhardt moment um gosh my references are nothing if not disparate today and uh i truly have no idea what you're talking about at any given point i'm just laughing along people can just make a little whatsapp list of not whatsapp notes at things to google like pi the the odyssey sarah bernhardt Just those two. Maybe we can get some links in the next episode. link to what the Wikipedia page... There are all the random things that Simon mentioned this week. ah
00:31:55
Speaker
We usually get the Bible in somewhere, way but I don think we've finished that as of yet. There's still time. There's still plenty of time. And my final thing um is, it's nice to know, it's reassuring in some way that the border police are as useless at their job as the M&M police because they get they get open the van, Cambridge's van, to do a random spot check.
00:32:14
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which involves them opening one box and having a little sort of improvised skit about teddy bear whilst a mass murderer is just like cowering next to the box.
00:32:26
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Yeah, it was a bit of a tough watch. And like, if the dog is right there, why would you not let the sniff dog in the van? Like, why would you march it up close to the van, but not let it actually do its job?
00:32:38
Speaker
That poor dog might be the only like competent member of the force, and it's not being enabled. I know, it's truly being held back by all the humans around it. Yeah, I found that border force scene really annoying. And also I was kind of just looking at the backdrop the whole time to try and work out where they'd filmed it. but Are you telling me it wasn't at the border? Do they not commit to verisimilitude? don't think so. I think it was likely on the Kirkstall Road.
00:33:05
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And I should say, watch this face because the guy who played that border control agent has got in touch to offer us an interview, you which we may we may well take him off on that. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see how it goes.
00:33:16
Speaker
um It was impressive self-promotion. You have to applaud that. Yeah, it was an impressive email. Yeah. I mean, he may have overestimated this podcast's reach. Yeah.
00:33:27
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I feel like if he's looking for exposure, he's surely not going to get it here. He's to say. The lady in that scene has not got in touch, but we see that we we wish her well.
00:33:39
Speaker
Oh, yeah. i'd And truly, ah I'd love to hear from the dog. Yes, please. If the dog could get in touch, we would love to do a feature-length podcast with you. Yeah. Well, that's everything. I mean, I've been all over the place with that story, but that's... ah Oh, no, except I put down, Jay so nearly performed some narrative function in Finding John.
00:33:57
Speaker
think Jay almost had a purpose in the show, just just briefly. Yeah. So nearly, but then didn't. Just got some money instead. Oh, yeah, the only other thing I wrote down, I just realised I never said this. so Why does no one, like, share their location with their significant other?
00:34:13
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Like, if Caleb... Yeah, if Caleb had found my friends, like Ruby would just be like, hey, what's going on? You're not actually doing what you say you are. Like, i just, yeah.
00:34:26
Speaker
Maybe turned off when he had the affair of Tracy. Yeah, gutting. don't know if I'm unusual in having my location shared with like quite a few people. Well, I think you might be. And as much as I suggested to my brother that we do it with each other, and he was like, absolutely not. And then he asked some of his friends, is it was my brother weird to ask this? And they were like, yeah, your brother's weird.
00:34:45
Speaker
So literally she only our friends and these are your friends, Kate and Ollie, are the only people I follow. should follow I don't really know why you still keep asking your brother Colin for his opinion on anything. now Colin like hates looking at views.
00:35:03
Speaker
He does hate views. He doesn't have a normal grasp on reality. Thank you for um reassuring me that he is in fact gaslighting me. But I'd love to know where he is at all times, but apparently that's not something he wishes or wants.
00:35:16
Speaker
But you're on an Android phone. How would you where I am? How would I do that to you? You can do on Google Maps. That's how you do with Kato, aren't hate Google Maps, but would it for Thank you. um I thought Google Maps was famously better than Apple Maps, even for people who had Apple's.
00:35:30
Speaker
I know, but it looks really ugly. So I continue to use Apple Maps because it's more aesthetically pleasing. I mean, it looks like a map. I don't know what you're looking what you're hoping for. It's like, especially when it's on sat nav mode and it's direct to me, like Google Maps is so like angular and the colors are really bright and it's just not for me. Okay. I do think sometimes I feel like you need to be in a sensory deprivation tank just for if you're in the meeting.
00:35:59
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I would truly love that.
Recording Challenges and Humorous Self-Reflection
00:36:01
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Maybe this is exactly what's going on with Kane and Ruby because I imagine Ruby has got an iPhone and Kane's got an Android phone. Sorry, Cable. Caleb.
00:36:11
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I'm going to take all of that again. Feel free to leave it in if you want to. Again, think what I'm saying from this episode is I'm just going to say words and people have to try and work out the gist of what I meant to say.
00:36:24
Speaker
I guess it'll be easier for them to work out when they're chanting it to themselves at the bus stop. I can't emphasize enough that it's currently 10 bus 11 and that is simply why and I drove from Shropshire this afternoon I mean admittedly it's not that far but I've got no further Shropshire it was I'd say three hours away so that's something that's not nothing yeah and like I got back from Greece so ah not last night the night before but i have not really slept since then so
00:36:56
Speaker
And I was sleeping in Christian conference center bunk beds for the last two nights. You can only imagine the deep, deep sleep I managed to get in those. Yeah. I mean, i don't have to imagine I have slept in those same bunk beds at a different Christian conference that I know full well you've barely slept. And also that that room is like a sauna. Oh no, wait, that room's really cold, but the meeting room's like a sauna. Oh my gosh. The meeting room, i mean, this is not relevant to them.
00:37:21
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Well, actually, know it's it's relevant to one my highlights actually. um how hot that meeting is room meeting room is because when april was listening to the radio somewhere i forget where she was they talked about a heat wave of 34 degrees and i was thinking back to leeds last week i'm like i'm almost certain there was not a heat wave of 34 degrees in leeds and it was such a bold move of the emmerdale like whoever made like the background sound for the radio to think oh probably be a 34 degree heat wave in september just pop that on yeah that's so rogue i mean i was in greece and it was
00:37:52
Speaker
high 20s which was lovely but like I think it was probably about 12 degrees in Leeds last week and pouring with rain just something tight so i see oh dear um I guess we should talk a bit about the wedding yes um and the fact that Vinny nearly missed it because thank goodness he finally went to the police he did i mean again it's much like when Mac disappeared during was it their wedding to go
Wedding Drama and Tense Scenes
00:38:23
Speaker
like raid cannabis from an attic it's like you you do pick your moments this could have happened earlier yeah i guess with vinnie there was a bit more reason because it was like what if mike turns up at my wedding that's true yeah but it was still poorly timed and mike seemed to be dragged in instantly with no bail which was a bold move from the police
00:38:46
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Yeah, I don't really know what's normal there, but that did seem quite um quite dramatic to me. Yeah, like again, I'm not sure, and maybe that's where we need an extra opinion, but it does seem like the sort of thing you would get bail for, but maybe not.
00:39:01
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what would we need Who would we need to talk to? ah police officer. I've got a police officer. A police officer, a lawyer, someone like that. yeah Okay, let me track some down. ah Speaking of f police officers,
00:39:12
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like This could just be me seeing any two characters being nice to each other and thinking they're to have an affair. But Vinny and the police officer? You can't stop seeing sexual chemistry between people. But yeah, I do maybe get it. They had a vibe.
00:39:29
Speaker
That's what I'm saying. okay sure um i do you think that if the police officer were to enter the chat it would be quite stressful for vinnie like i'm married i also kind of fancy cammy and now this police officer all i'm saying is there was a vibe that's all i'm saying yeah um yeah i don't really know what's going to happen i think maybe there's just going to be a big week and you're right probably soaps week where gabby confesses and vinnie confesses and then they're like should we just not be married anymore yeah because we were sure they weren't going to get married and i thought that i'd heard the actress say that but apparently she was just playing a clever line so i was quite surprised it actually got married yeah
00:40:16
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I really didn't think they would actually get married and I was quite relieved that they weren't going to. And then they did. yeah and Cammie Blessing was just like, oh, fine, okay, I did my best. Let's just go with it. And Cammie is truly the only sane person in the village at the moment. I think you're right.
00:40:35
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like Like, maybe Laurel, but it's just just the two of them. Cammie and Laurel against the world. And Rona, although Rona's being so dumb, obviously April is not going to school right now.
00:40:46
Speaker
No, and I'm surprised the school is just like, sure, just work from home, whatever. was going to say that surely the school would be ringing Rona and being like, we've actually had no contact with your daughter. Because at the very least they'd be like, you can stay at home, but you have to like zoom into classrooms or something. So like you have to... Yeah, because you can't really just work from home when you are being taught by teachers. She's not like doing a vision or anything, is she? She's like, you're literally learning. No, not that time the beginning of the school yet.
00:41:14
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You don't know anything yet. Yeah, but Raina's taken that in stride. She's like, sure, I guess. People work from home now. Just learn biology at the kitchen table.
00:41:26
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I did write down Mandy's wedding outfit, but I can't remember what it was. was it like Was she wearing like that sort of deconstructed glitter ball?
00:41:35
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In my head she was wearing like... Should I it up? Yeah. I can picture her in head-to-toe silver glitter, but it might be in her wedding dress for all I got. Mandy Dingle wedding...
00:41:46
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outfit for Vinny's wedding. It's a lot to be typing in. Yeah. It's good content though. Oh wait. Yes, she is a glitter ball. There you I knew that something had burnt into my rationers. Oh yes. Oh my gosh. That's a lot.
00:42:05
Speaker
Bless her like She is sweet. She said it was a very, very, very funny day at work. So that's good to know. Whenever I see a digital spy heading, which is like, Emma Dell star plays tribute to co-star, it's always Lisa Riley writing an article about how much she loves Ruby or something. And it's like, God bless you.
00:42:26
Speaker
I've started getting emails from digital spy unsolicited. I've never signed up to anything. I've never given them my contact details. And it's not the dingle all the way email. It's like my personal one.
00:42:36
Speaker
I don't get how this has happened. dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com if you'd like to get in touch so smooth i did think it was a low move from vinnie when he did disappear to shop shop mike when he came back his excuse was went to get your dead dad put in a locket it's like it's so low to like talk about like use her dead dad as an excuse that's that's not cool because presumably he'd done that already and then he was just bit like i guess i'll just lie Yeah, just have keep that around me in case ever need to explain why I've been off somewhere. Yeah, and it probably will come out as well. And then he'll just look even worse.
Humorous Anecdotes and Observations
00:43:17
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Yeah.
00:43:18
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Aw. ah Someone did point out that their son Thomas, ah sorry, her son Thomas is in his factual adopt, that Gabby's surname is also Thomas.
00:43:31
Speaker
So is that child called Thomas Thomas? Yeah. Such a good question. um Who's Thomas' dad? I think it's Jamie, who is Kim Tate's son?
00:43:43
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Nephew son? So maybe his name is Thomas Tate? Thomas Tate, which is a strong name. We do know they're obsessed with giving their children the father's surname, regardless of whether he's in their life or not. But for his sake, I would really like his name to be Thomas Thomas. I think that would set him in good stead for life.
00:43:59
Speaker
It's memorable. Maybe she called him Thomas as a tribute to her own surname. And look, it's also my surname so big fan of that so true uh huge abuse just out both of your names look there's so many simon thomas's out there that i've essentially given people no ah no additional information would you like to clarify whether you are are not the simon thomas who used to present blue peter i'd like to leave that to people's imaginations and just think what it would say about a broad-class career if it had gone from Blue Peter to this, if that would be considered a success or not.
00:44:38
Speaker
Surely it's a success. I'm going to put a blanket on. I can't control my temperature right now. I'm sorry to hear that. Which is a sign of a menopause, so hopefully that's not happening. you Yeah, what I learned in menopause training work is it could strike at any moment.
00:44:55
Speaker
gosh. keep that bit of coffee if if it is hitting i've got a lot of intel about eye drops like i'm very ready to share it does worry me that you're better to know a lot more about the metaphors than me well i did go to training so why do you need eye drops um well as you know I have quite severely dry eyes. sorry. I meant why would a menopausal... Well, no, sorry, no, I know i think that's what you say and when that When that was diagnosed, the lady who diagnosed it said, I mostly see this in postmenopausal women. and
00:45:30
Speaker
And turns out that's just a lovely symptom of postmenopausal is dry eyes. So if if anyone's... I don't know you're leaving any of this in, but if anyone's listening and wants some intel on eyedrops, I draw and did message, actually, my... ah my postmenopausal or perimenopausal friend is not her any characteristic um who with when i discovered a new eye drop have been added to the eye drop range that we most use high kisser and i just i literally sent a voice that being like new eye drop just dropped new eye just dropped new eye just dropped they've got an intense one i've always been eating extra but there's i've not tried the intense one yet i can't tell you what it's about but i'd love it if if emmerdale actually did do like a menopause storyline and and i'm
00:46:14
Speaker
willing to be their expert on that. Can you imagine? yeah Who should be the Men of War's champion if not a man in his late Talk to me about what an intense eyedrop would be like.
00:46:33
Speaker
Well, I can tell you that I've used the ones with differing intensities and it's basically just how much how much it lubricates the eyeball. Oh, fair.
00:46:44
Speaker
So eyedrops aren't just like water? no I didn't really know what was in them. I just sort of willy-nilly put them in my eyes. you can I mean, you can get ones that are steroids, mine are not. um And they replenish your tear film, which we all have over eyes. That's lovely.
00:47:02
Speaker
So there's that. Anyway, any highlights from this? guess we've lost all our listeners now.
00:47:08
Speaker
This is the biggest tangent I think we've been on. But look, we're the best one in the world. Charity needs those eyedrops. she's She must be kind of Well, no, I swear she's not menopausal. She's literally pregnant. She's literally pregnant. But I was just thinking... Mary?
00:47:23
Speaker
Mary's passed the menopause a good while ago, I would say. Yeah, true. I think you seem to be injured in a different way every episode. That actress is never not falling downstairs, and I hope she's okay. Yeah, me too. I have questions. Anyway, if if... I don't know. like Maybe Laurel, Chas, Rona, they they're all going to be on the cusp.
00:47:42
Speaker
So if they want any eye drop tips, I'm ready and willing. I'm your gal. Also, Gabby was injured. She'd had a broken finger, which they explained away in some implausible way. Yes.
00:47:54
Speaker
I know. Classic. It's like, well, they they none of them seem very concerned. Although when we saw, i think we mentioned that Laurel was in her big hefty injury boot. I had assumed that was the actress, but no, that actually was written in properly. Yeah. ah Yeah. Poor Mary.
00:48:09
Speaker
She's got no stories on camera, but off camera, she's never not having stories. Yeah, it does appear that she only really came onto to set to tell people that she was injured and then but off again. You'd think they would just be like, don't come in. Yeah, it's like, maybe you could just have a sick day. She's like, no, i need to stand here where functionally can't operate the bar. But that's what my character is saying. If Chaz is making her work when she's got an arm in a sling, then, you know, that's dodge.
00:48:36
Speaker
or charity charity tass they did little argument over who owned it and i forget who it was um i love mary i think she's such good value we don't see enough of her and she's so beautiful yeah more from her she's very beautiful she also doesn't seem to particularly interact with her own daughter is a bit a weird one but we move yeah we move you know she's busy rona's also not interacting with anyone as far as I can tell at the moment other than just sort of opening and shutting cupboards in her kitchen. And she did punch that man on behalf of April which was a power move.
00:49:07
Speaker
That was a good time. That was a peak. Yeah. We probably should talk about April and Dylan. Oh I guess we should. We're running out of time. We could just not. Yeah I also just found it really annoying that they kept on giving us that when all I wanted to see was like the progression of the story with Aaron and Robert Mac and John and like they kept on just cutting in quite boring scenes from April and Dylan particularly that really pivotal episode of was it a Thursday or something where they everything was coming to a head and they kept yeah it just kept going to April and it's like like I get it they're both very good actors I just am not at all interested in this story
00:49:44
Speaker
I did find it quite good when April stood up to Ray and was just a bit like, I knew this in writing, what is going on? seeing through him, but now she's not again. And she's in fact dealing drugs and probably about to start taking care.
00:49:57
Speaker
I know. I thought that was going to be a turning point and yet nothing had changed by the next day. It was really frustrating. And look, we know that people are never not stealing care from the vets. So but she's got easy access. He really doesn't need to give it to her when that,
00:50:12
Speaker
cupboard where they keep it is never closed oh gosh i bet that's going to be it she's going to become an addict and then steal it from the what's it called vet surgery much like dylan was falsely accused of doing it's all going to come true um also jay is a drug addict but i also was like is he just saying that to be manipulative well i did google it afterwards discover he did have apparently a whole storyline about being addicted to cocaine so yeah Yeah, which, you know, is very business-y drug to be addicted to, I suppose. So it fits in with his power suits. Yeah, a white-collar drug.
00:50:44
Speaker
Yeah, I say power suits. His power suits do look always like he bought them at Tesco. But I think they're meant to be sharper than they are. Yeah, he never looked particularly high-end, bless him. But he's trying. He's not in the right direction. He's trying.
00:50:57
Speaker
And I wish I knew where he lived. But that's, I guess, none of my business or anyone else's. I think we have looked up before. We have, but what what did we conclude? ah can't We can't look that up every episode. That can't be what this is. I can't remember, but yeah, we can't keep doing this.
Outdated Practices and Overreactions
00:51:12
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if I don't really have a highlight. I sort of said everything, but the only thing I had written about the Dylan thing was that apparently it's very, very important that he learns his the everything in the theory test in a day.
00:51:25
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Like he has to get that right. Jimmy was so needlessly cruel to him, whereas as he didn't know some, I can't even know what the question was, but it wasn't like, theory test 101 it was something a bit detailed and then jimmy was like wouldn't hold out hope of whoever passing yeah i know i think it took me maybe like six weeks to revise my theory test or something you really don't need to just be like up all night in a the cafe was really dark as well what was going on there yes um and then on the other side paddy was like cheering him on we knew that double yellow lines meant don't park here it's like i don't think that's something that you need to have started learning theory to a favor no but paddy's just so kind i love him
00:52:02
Speaker
He's a cheerleader. we love fans. Yeah. yeah Yeah. I mean, I passed my driving test first time and I'm, I would say a bad driver. don't worry, Dylan. Take your time. I've been driven by you and I felt safe.
00:52:13
Speaker
Oh, that's nice. Thank you. I'd say maybe i'm more of a nervous driver than a bad driver. Yeah. I'd say you're a little bit hesitant, but that didn't make me feel unsafe. If anything, you're less likely to to die. But um I will say, whilst I did pass my theory test, hadn't i I wouldn't say I'm up to speed with all the signs being anymore. Like, I don't know what.
00:52:33
Speaker
You see something, like a triangle and a line. It's like, well, I guess I shouldn't do something, but who knows what it is. Yeah. My housemate got a car for the first time recently. and um, like she was driving me somewhere and then she was like, um, if I park here, should I leave my parking lights on? And I was like, no,
00:52:51
Speaker
like What are parking lights? Well, I was like, that will run down your car battery. Why on earth would you do that? And she was like, oh I think there is something about, like, if you're parking on a road in the dark, you should leave your parking lights on. And I was like, I feel like maybe in the 80s people did that, but, like, surely not since. And then I looked up and it's actually true.
00:53:12
Speaker
are parking lights? Have I got parking lights? Oh, right. That does seem like it would waste the battery, surely. Yeah, I think it's like, if you're parking... I don't remember anymore.
00:53:24
Speaker
But I was just a bit like, I think maybe just forget about the parking lights. Yeah, I think that fine. It's like one those anachronistic laws that we don't actually do It's like if your indicator's not working and you want to turn left, you're meant to like wave your arm up and down outside the window or something. so That means you're going down. Well, maybe meant to in a circle. Yeah, you're meant to do Circles.
00:53:50
Speaker
if someone in front was just like doing a circle out the window, don't think I think, oh, they're turning left. I think they've lost their mind. my dad's first car didn't have indicators and he had to do that around the clock. That was just the only way he indicated. my last car, the back indicator didn't work. I just didn't let people know where I was turning, I guess.
00:54:09
Speaker
It's a different way of doing things. Yeah, the way I figured it who cares? And I love it. I feel like the structure of this episode has well and truly gone out of the window. And we've started to say that in every episode we do need to get it back on track at some point. But I don't really have any... do you have any highlights?
00:54:28
Speaker
No, my notes have. I've deleted absolutely everything now. So I guess I said everything. I've just got one more thing. Okay, great. Which ah could end up being our Bible reference.
00:54:40
Speaker
Phew, finally. People are waiting for it. When um Liam's talking to ah Claudette about the fact they're having this big report and was like, oh, about like the surgery, he said, like oh, you might want to say a couple of prayers.
00:54:54
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And then Claudette was like, I'm saving them for you because of his like health condition. was like, prayers don't come on allocation. You can see to while you're sat there, just be like, Lord, help the surgery.
00:55:08
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It's not like God's going to be like, that was one of your prayers for the day. And it's wasted on that.
00:55:15
Speaker
Yeah, like a genie who's like, you've three wishes. Yeah. Pray continuously, it says in, I want to say, 1 Thessalonians. Yeah, I don't feel like Claudette has got a very robust doctrine of prayer up her sleeve, which is a shame.
00:55:28
Speaker
do think that Emmerdale would benefit from us being consultants on the Christian side of it, i I guess the menopause side of it now, because of you. yeah the big two yeah like what i do like is that claudette is apparently able to pray outside of church because often characters only seem to be able to pray if they go and kneel in church yeah that's true no that is more realistic i get it so that's that's something with baby steps um yeah we haven't covered liam's story and i think that's probably for the best sure it it really seems that we're going to have a long time to do that yeah and
00:56:08
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again, I'm well documented for loving Mampree and I want her to have better stories than just watching men urinate into things. that's She deserves more. Yeah, that was, it was a tough watch. um She did not have her gaze, though. she was She was locked in. Yeah, I did think she's she really lingered for a while.
00:56:24
Speaker
I think i i was with her in the outrage of weeing in the sink in your place of work. ah I was like, that is pretty grim, especially when you're doctor. yeah However, when um Claudette spotted Liam weeing in the allotments, I thought he was doing something much worse than weeing from her reaction.
00:56:45
Speaker
She really went over the top at how disgusting it was. It's like, look, yeah... I wouldn't do it, but I often like drive along the road and see people doing it by their parked cars. and stuff Yeah, and i like ah maybe I'm just in a very loosey-goosey friendship group, but like the guys do kind of just wee out and about because you like you can. i was like, I don't really think this is a big deal, as big a deal.
00:57:05
Speaker
Is she meant to be a prude, or do I have a really low bar for where it's acceptable to wee? On an allotment, it just kind of feels like you're in agriculture. It's probably helped. Look, I think it's one of those times where two things can be true.
00:57:17
Speaker
so your your friendship group on this point is i think potentially unhinged but also you need to stop weeing everything like i think if a friend just i was with like oh mind one second i'm just gonna i'm just gonna urinate i'd be like okay i guess i will never see you again so that's I'm more the Claudette school, I guess is what I'm saying. But by the by even a prude, thought she overreacted. Yeah, it was a lot.
00:57:46
Speaker
um Yeah, I... Also, Liam lives like three seconds from his surgery. Like, just, if you can get up the stairs and down, you can run across the road to your house. You'd hope so. ah Shall we do it a little random name generator? was just going say that. Who are we going talk about? Oh my gosh, we're so insane. We're going to say talk about ah Ned Porteous playing Joe Tate. Stop, I love him.
00:58:07
Speaker
We know it. Big fan. haven't seen much of him recently. I think obviously he's slimy and very annoying, but I have really enjoyed seeing character development there. of like I think he really does love Dawn, and the um even though I don't particularly know why they are together, it's nice to see that he has a heart and that he really cares for her.
00:58:28
Speaker
He does admittedly seem to hate her children and everything they stand for, but But at least he knows who they are. And that's something that isn't always true of significant others. is true.
00:58:40
Speaker
Yeah, I think he's a very good actor. i i found it harder to watch his scenes since that revelation I had that he looked like a goat. That was something. I can't you said that on the podcast or if you just sent that to me in a voice note.
00:58:52
Speaker
maybe I think I just sent that to you actually. Oh my word, that was like our amazing comedy timing thing of like, you sent me a voice note, like, I don't know how else to put this, but Ned Porteous kind of looks like a goat.
00:59:03
Speaker
I was listening to it while walking along the Kirksell Road and I looked up and Ned Porteous walked past me. That's right. Oh my gosh. And I was like so shook. And you didn't say anything. I didn't like say anything to him.
00:59:16
Speaker
But he was also, he was recording a voice note on his phone while he was walking. i was like well, I can't interrupt him and be like, hi. my friend thinks you look like a girl i wouldn't say that i would be like i love you talk to me but it was just such a jump scare to me i was literally listening to your voice note and he walked past me so weird so strange and that's what happens when you live next to emerald studio you just see these things i guess it is yeah and i'm often sending you voices about emerald so that you know if anything that was a given um
00:59:49
Speaker
but Yeah, i I did think the whole like stealing a kidney thing, like I think there's a line you can take a character to before that it becomes a bit absurd that they're just redeemed. And I think they did push that line. i'm not so I'm not sure.
01:00:02
Speaker
and know i know i know it's sort of behind us storyline wise now and people just aren't going to refer to it again. But it did seem to me like I'm not sure this character can really make sense. so yeah anymore having done that but that's so for you i guess yeah i find it strange how the entire village were united in their hatred against him and then kind of forgot about it overnight and they were like sure whatever yeah and i think what so often comes up when we're doing our little slot at the end is that it's a character who needs more friends i think there's just not enough friendships i think if you get him ah an unlikely friendship with someone don't know do you think it could be but i think think that would really help like integrate him away from home farm where he's got like stuff to do
01:00:40
Speaker
in the village where he isn't just being despised by people but who could have an unlikely friendship with him i actually think charles interesting okay with that with i'm not sure that would help him not be a pariah but yeah true i just think they're both don't know from the south
01:01:03
Speaker
job done tick ah yeah yeah I was wondering maybe like and we've probably said him before for other people maybe Liam like that could be quite fun oh I don't know think they'd be a bit unbearable together but I could see happening yeah they would I mean so much else be honest but like maybe even like no not Robert that'd be ridiculous maybe we need a new character to be friends just trying to think like who would Joe give the time of day to And I'm like, that's why I think Charles, because I think at first he would just be like, leave me alone, you're a vicar. And then after a while he'd be like, oh, you know what? You are kind of genuine and nice.
01:01:41
Speaker
That's true. I think Joe and Tracy actually, they could have a fun dynamic. Not a romantic one, but like a friend one where she like takes the mick out of him and takes him less seriously than other people. true. And he sort of warms to Yeah.
01:01:55
Speaker
I'd like to see that. There you That's a little psychic corner of prediction. fast forward to three months time. gal pal tracy gal pal trace yeah yeah i like that lot i think that's good any thoughts on what what storyline he could uh could have next um i have truly lost track of the whole farm field ownership thing oh gosh so i fear it's gonna something along those lines that i really don't care about
01:02:28
Speaker
Yeah, and we really don't want that. And I don't, like, we haven't seen much of Dawn. We've seen nothing of Billy. So all of that, like, love triangle has disappeared now, it seems.
Character Development on Emmerdale
01:02:38
Speaker
Yeah.
01:02:39
Speaker
I don't know what's going to happen for him next, but I hope he's back soon. I really like Dawn and I like him. I know that nobody else does, but yeah I do. I mean, I quite like Dawn.
01:02:51
Speaker
I quite like him. I think not as much as you do, but, yeah. There we go. Well, the All that remains for us to ask is, of course, has there been any farming?
01:03:01
Speaker
No, not really. There's been talk about farming. There's been Vic trying to set up a petting zoo.
01:03:10
Speaker
Which actually they did try and set up a petting zoo in the village that my parents lived in before they retired. And it sort of got scuppered because everyone was like, people can just go into the field next to him, pet animals for free.
01:03:22
Speaker
Yeah, I fear that would happen in hotel. there are some free animals there so maybe i'll just the although trying pet sheep is tricky they do have to and they do have to scarper remember that time we saw the donkeys oh we yeah where were we was that you was it joe child we are shared yeah was it there yeah i love those dongs i've got photo of you next to a donkey but it has a big sign that says brontosaurus on it and we were like I don't think that is a brontosaurus, but like willing, willing to listen to the experts.
01:03:57
Speaker
Yeah. We're not biologists. I literally am. I have a degree in biology. but You are, you do, don't As I was saying, I was like, wait a minute. Hang on.
01:04:09
Speaker
I always forget that on account of just hating biology and liking you. Yeah, I don't particularly feel like a biologist. But you should know the difference between a dinosaur and a donkey in a way that I can't be expected to. Yeah, true. Like, would hate to put that kind of pressure on you.
01:04:26
Speaker
The only note I made for farming is that, and this could have been a lie, Ray was late for something because he got caught behind a tractor in traffic. That's so true. I've forgotten that. Yeah, you're right. you know, that's realistic.
01:04:39
Speaker
I get caught behind tractors a lot. same yeah Yeah. I now look at Ray as a brother. I'm really glad to hear that. um Someone's got to. Well, shall we draw things to a close there?
01:04:53
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01:05:15
Speaker
the um the eric being a jump scare in the pub yes that made me laugh so much even like it was just like seeing a ghost yeah we love the specific references that really um tickles us so yeah and keep your emails coming as well we always love reading them and hearing from you so Thanks for checking in. And we've got an exciting collab episode coming up hopefully soon. Yeah, fingers crossed. the Rob Ron podcast, who I'm obsessed with. I don't know about you but I think they're hilarious.
01:05:49
Speaker
um So watch this space. We're hoping to record with them soon. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. um yeah Bye then, I guess. hit Bye.