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Is it illegal for Graham to be alive? (Emmerdale 26th January - 6th February 2026)
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An episode which began with us saying we didn’t have much to say about what’s been happening in Emmerdale recently, and culminated in speculation about which characters would correctly use the subjunctive, Lizzie asking any listeners out there for legal advice and/or a graphic design job, and Simon giving some British Sign Language lessons via this non-visual medium.
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Introduction: 'Dingle All The Way' Podcast
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to Dingle All The Way. I'm Simon. And I'm Lizzie. And today we're going to talk you through the past couple of weeks in the village of Emmerdale, which is what we always do. It's the only thing we do, unfortunately. It's the only thing we know how to do. foot Yeah, I'm so sorry. It's the only thing I have ever done. And that's why we're not in serious contention for CBEs, but um maybe next year.
00:00:26
Speaker
We've both been talking about how we don't have masses of notes and I have just revealed a little sneak preview to Lizzie that my first note is just the word petulant. and i have no idea what that's about. Someone was petulant.
00:00:37
Speaker
Who was that in relation to? Who could it have been? Maybe Paddy. your first note, I guess it would be like two weeks ago. I'd love to say that my notes that orderly, but sometimes I just open my notes half and just write stuff in any way. Okay.
00:00:48
Speaker
Yeah, I see how it is. So I guess these past couple of weeks you've had like the aftermath of Moira's arrest and stuff. we've We've had Bear having, I'd say, undiagnosed and maybe undecided mental conditions. They seem to they seem to vary.
00:01:05
Speaker
Yeah, I really thought that he had dementia, but maybe he just is traumatised. And processing things.
Bear's Dilemma: Mental Health and Modern Slavery
00:01:12
Speaker
It's very difficult to say. Hargreaves licking your microphone, by the way? He's not. Does it sound like he is? Yeah, Hargreaves is a cat, by the way, for anybody. He is getting very much in the way. He sounds like he's something. Do you want to settle down, sweetheart?
00:01:29
Speaker
That was again to Hargreaves. I'm not patronising Lizzie. It's good to clarify these things. Also, we must make sure that our laughing doesn't get in the way of our content this time. Yes, thanks so much to the to reviewer who just just said, let the laughter get in the way of the content. It's like, what content?
00:01:44
Speaker
Do you really think we have anything useful to share? Like, that's probably the biggest compliment we've ever had. Someone thinks it worth listening to. It's lovely. Yeah, they're just desperate to get to the the factual summaries.
00:01:56
Speaker
Yeah. Okay, so what were you saying? We're talking about Bear's mental health conditions. So he's like, i got generic trauma, I suppose. Yeah, I don't know. my main question about Bear is that um the police officer keeps calling him Mr. Howlson, but in the credits he's credited as Bear Wolf, which is an unusual name. What's his name and why? I've never come across the Howlson thing, Bear Wolf I do know was his like wrestling name. say Okay.
00:02:22
Speaker
I think neither them are neither Bear nor were his actual names, although Bear is quite popular name to call children now, isn't it, by celebrities and such. Yeah, celebrities and sort of like latter-day millennials. Yes. Like the latter-day saints in a way. in In some ways. Yeah, I'm just, I don't really know where to start with Bear. I mainly just feel very sorry for him because I think he was obviously in modern slavery and trapped by that and traumatised by that.
00:02:52
Speaker
But his life since doesn't seem to have got much better because Paddy Bai trying to protect him is also trapping him. Like, thankfully no longer in a random Airbnb.
00:03:03
Speaker
But it does seem to be that he's just like popping headphones on him and like hoping that he'll dissociate. And you're like, you could at least like take him for a drive to Oakley Moor or something and like, i don't know, let him see the world. He's just like trapping him and then other random people keep coming in to interrogate him. Like, why is Cain getting involved? Calm down, Cain. Yeah, it does seem like it does seem like Paddy is in some ways worse than Ray, but it was interesting that Bear did try and escape, well, did escape the first random house he was locked in with the classic billowing curtains through open window situation. again this this elderly man, Irish man, not only a
00:03:42
Speaker
would be well not no would be an actual murderer he does achieve his goals he sets smart goals and he achieves them and but apparently he can just like abseil out of first floor windows um but there was a great line maybe it was even yesterday's episode
Tech Talk: Headphones and Earplugs
00:03:57
Speaker
which i know paddy is a vet rather than a doctor but i don't think this is a recognized medical symptom he's not coping look at him he's got kenny rogers on a loop i know um everyone that's something to keep an eye for that was actually a special moment in kenny rogers loop awareness week just be it aware if your loved ones are listening think to kenny rogers on a loop they're not coping yeah it's a big red flag and it's one that goes unnoticed a lot actually truly truly i did enjoy that he had like old style headphones like i remember those headphones so well from my childhood of like
00:04:31
Speaker
just a sort of thin metal band over the top of your head and then like a lot of sponge at the bottom. And that is, I think, the kind of headphones that Paddy would have lying around his house. That's true. I recently got new work headphones at work because I dropped my previous ones caught in a cup of tea and then they malfunction. So vintage-y. Isn't it? And they they're like this sort of noise-cancelling padded ones, but how...
00:04:56
Speaker
This is just a sidebar, clearly, but how do people wear those with glasses? I just don't understand. They're so, like, oppressively pressing on my ears that the glasses better get a look in. and oh when you do need them.
00:05:07
Speaker
I need them to see. i want to see and hear. Yeah, my um I haven't ever had noise cancelling headphones. I have got a pair of loop earplugs for noisy situations, but the only time I've ever worn them, I've just been like so able to hear everything that's going on in my own head that it's been completely impossible. I don't know if I'm using them wrong or if my bone structure is wrong or something but I couldn't really hear what was going on because like every time I took a bite of my food it was deafening I was like i don't get this like what how does this work so if anybody successfully uses loop earplugs while like eating a meal would love to hear from you am I doing it wrong or are they doing it wrong I don't know
00:05:48
Speaker
But yeah, it's nice to know that Bear is not interested in Bluetooth.
Paddy's Secrets and Police Missteps
00:05:52
Speaker
He is sticking to physical software? No, hardware. Hardware. Including the name, I guess.
00:06:01
Speaker
Yeah. I guess the bigger thing on my mind is like, Paddy obviously wants to protect Bear, um which you would want to do, but he's just totally aware that Moira has gone to prison for like all of this murder and stuff.
00:06:19
Speaker
Why is he happy for that to be the case? Why isn't he like, you know what, maybe the truth should just come out? And I know I basically say this every episode. And maybe, maybe Emmerdale is just not for me because I'm just stressed all the time about people hiding the truth. Why is that happening? Yeah, I mean, I guess in this case, it's because that doesn't accidentally reveal that he's a murderer.
00:06:42
Speaker
i i guess it's his MO. Yeah, I do see that. I'm sorry. But just remind me, keep thinking of him like a little chihuahua. He's like, just like snapping at anyone. He comes in, including the police who seem, i mean, I know Bear's not been arrested. but The police seem very okay with Paddy just interrupting every single question they ask and and and saying, oh, he's it's been too long. It's like, it's literally been three minutes. Yeah, I was thinking that, like, every time the police open their mouth, like, don't you think you've asked him enough? Like, you've just literally asked him, how's the day's going? like
00:07:14
Speaker
Yeah, it's a lot. It is a lot. But, you know, on the bright side, haven't had so far to deal with that coming off of opiates storyline that I was so fearful about. Yeah, I wonder whether that's just not going to happen.
00:07:27
Speaker
I hope not. He's just gone cold turkey. Yeah, and he maybe that's why he's so agitated. Well, the' true, it would get you would give you a real ah real ill itchy feet, wouldn't it? I think, yeah, I think that's the main thing. um Yeah, so I don't really know what's going to happen now. like Presumably Moira won't be in prison long term.
00:07:47
Speaker
Well, this black eye does make me think we're going to have to sit through a a prison brutality storyline. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, one thing that I did quite enjoy was a scene at the wall pack where Paddy's like, have you heard about the bodies at the farm?
00:08:02
Speaker
And Rona goes, yeah, that's why we're here, to find out what's going on having just arrived with Marlon. And you think, Why were you like, I have to get to the bottom the bodies of the farm. I'll go to Marlon's place of work where he always like, that's not the reason you've gone. You've gone because like Marlon has a job there. And like, you need to find out about bodies of the farm, you just like ring people who know about it. I guess maybe I'm underestimating the fact that wall pack is just like the community hub.
00:08:26
Speaker
But it did seem like an odd script writing moment to me. Yeah. I mean, I'd like to think the village WhatsApp group is ablaze with theories. you know the so We don't hear enough about the village WhatsApp group. I want more. Yeah, we need more of what's going on there.
00:08:41
Speaker
And, ah you know, if it's anything like any of the like local Facebook groups I'm in, one person will have been like trying to sell their onions or something. And then someone will have like veered that conversation sharply onto murder. i mean well There must be interesting to actually have genuine things to talk about in a village. Because I was in my village like neighborhood watch WhatsApp group. And eventually i left it because all it was was people were just messaging, being like, i seen a van. It's like well, i didn't know what I meant to do with that information.
00:09:10
Speaker
Seems fine. Were they like troubled by the vans they were seeing? Yeah, basically. I think if they saw any vehicle they didn't recognize, they'd assume that they'd come to like smash and grab.
00:09:22
Speaker
Yeah, love that. And like rural theft, like rural burglary is a thing. Like the house opposite me did get burgled a few years ago, which is quite unnerving. But, but I mean, I don't, I think it's just Amazon amazon delivery drivers for most of us. Not, not, the not who are doing the burglary.
00:09:38
Speaker
That is their MO and that is the right way to use that word. Yeah. I guess though in Emmerdale if you see a van it probably is
Gossip and Village Dynamics
00:09:46
Speaker
bad news. Like something is probably going to pop off.
00:09:49
Speaker
Even if it's just Caleb the fact that he's there means there's going to be a crime. Something's going to go wrong. And that's why no one thought to alert the fact that there was a van in the street with a dead body and they're like oh it's just... It's a normal day. It's a normal day.
00:10:03
Speaker
Caleb and or Jay going kick off. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I feel like the police, I just have so many questions for the police in the last two weeks of like, what are you doing? They go into every interview with Moira just like obsessed with the fact that she's like guilty until proven innocent to them. Yeah. And it's not fair.
00:10:24
Speaker
No, they and they truly I mean, I guess Celia is dead. So they can't question her as such. But they they they really do think They do seem, yeah, they seem to think that she can't possibly be responsible for all these things, just despite knowing the number of other things she is or responsible for. They're like, well, we draw a line at her walking into Maura's house. Like, sure, the rest of it she did, but she wouldn't plant evidence. Yeah, it's not something she's into personally.
00:10:49
Speaker
Surely all of those IDs will have fingerprints on as well. Yeah, I guess they could use her dead hands for film crew checking. yeah that's true. They would need her dead hands and Rey's dead hands. Luckily they got them to hand. When they took them... What am I saying? Oh yeah, when they took them off the slaves, they probably weren't wearing gloves.
00:11:07
Speaker
They would have fingerprinted them. Oh, I see what you mean. Where are all the other slaves? I don't know. sure Maybe one of them's going to come out and be like, hey, as in come out sort of of hiding rather than in a sexuality way.
00:11:25
Speaker
It would be a fun side plot. Um... but Yeah, unexpected, but, you know, important. Still important.
00:11:35
Speaker
um Maybe one of them's going to emerge and just be like, by the way, we've never even heard of Moira. It was all Rensilia. Yeah, because I guess they were all being transported to this other base. But when both the people who were doing the transporting were murdered, did they just go there anyway? don't know. do this Occasionally we get hints that there is a much wider criminal organiz operation, but more often we get hints that there isn't.
00:11:58
Speaker
I wouldn't be surprised if Graham knows some stuff, because wasn't Graham at one point talking about how Celia and Ray are part of this wider thing, and that's how he got wind of it all?
Graham's Mysterious Return
00:12:10
Speaker
Like, maybe he will be like the rest of the slaves are now in this place. Yeah, and I guess that brings us on to what is arguably the main storyline of the past couple of weeks, which is Graham.
00:12:21
Speaker
Yeah, Graham. I just, I'm so confused by the Graham hype. I find him kind of like amusing, but in no world would I be able to take him seriously if i met him.
00:12:37
Speaker
can you like Can you imagine Graham doing a weekly shot of and just being like, yes, I needed bananas, but these are not ripe enough. It'd be exhausting. It'd be exhausting. He wouldn't be able to hold down a job because everyone would just be like, you're not a real person.
00:12:59
Speaker
and And I've seen people say he just acts everyone outside the water. I might have said that last episode. It's like, I just, I don't get it. Every line he says is so annoying. It kind of feels like we're watching an American drama now. Like the goalposts have shifted and we're now being asked to suspend our disbelief in a new fresh way.
00:13:19
Speaker
Yeah, I loved Marlon mocking his voice. That was fun. Yeah, that was really nice. And my favourite moment, I think, from the whole of the last two weeks is when Graham arrives in the pub. Everyone's like, what the heck? Including, I didn't really know what was going on with the dynamic of like, aren't you sorry for what you did to Brian? And so he just went, I am sorry I locked you in a shed. Yeah, I have no idea what that's about, but it's nice to that Ryan at some point in the past had like actual things to do on screen, which has been a while. Yeah, once upon a time had some screen time. But yeah, I just, I don't get the Graham hype and we're seeing a lot of him.
00:13:56
Speaker
And there's a lot of it was doing the same explanations over and over again. Like poppa on the WhatsApp group, be like, look who's back. Then you don't need to have that same scene endlessly where he's like, so... Yeah, no, i wasn't dead, actually. um i just, again, my SAS training means I can lie really still. So ah don't worry about it. did enjoy what you're like. We buried your body. It's like, I think I was cremated. That was a good line. think I was cremated. Yeah, he does need like sort of just a crib sheet. when ah So a couple of years ago, my housemate and good friend Vy like fell over on some gravel and it meant that she had like a graze on her face which was quite nasty um and then the next night was her own birthday party and she had already sort of just got a bit sick of saying the same thing over and over again like yeah it looks really bad it's actually like kind of a boring story I just fell over on some gravel yeah it looks like this blah blah blah so I just made her a small sign and she hung it around her neck
00:15:00
Speaker
for the evening being like I don't want to have to explain it again here's the FAQs on why I look like it's not a big deal let's just have a good evening and maybe that's what Graham should have done like here's my FAQs yes I died except I didn't I was just lying very still for a long time yeah and I think what I would enjoy is if he did those FAQs and the home fact the whole character, maybe just like 50% more camp.
00:15:28
Speaker
I think if it was like camp villainy, that'd be quite fun. think because he's playing it quite like deadly serious most of the time. I did, I mean, back onto the police making unusual choices.
00:15:38
Speaker
i did think it was odd that he was ah like taken to the police station for the crime of being alive. Like, ah yeah point that like it's not actually illegal to be alive. I guess there are kind of legal ramifications for the fact he did fake his own death because he allowed Marlon to go to prison. And so it's like he allowed a miscarriage of justice. But I mean, is what's the actual crime there? It's not his fault if the police like don't actually check there's a dead body.
00:16:03
Speaker
Yeah, I guess at the end of the day, is the police's fault for not checking his pulse at any point. Yeah. And I mean, i don't know how long he was using this SAS training to lie still for. but um i did you what I don't know if you watch the traitors. It does remind me a lot of Rachel's FBI training that was clearly like a Facebook quiz she did once. But maybe it is the same thing for Graham. He just did like, popped up on Facebook being like, how long can you lie still for? with Like some sort of animated AI man being like...
00:16:32
Speaker
If you can lie down for 0 to 10 seconds, sorry, you're not in the SAS. 11 to 20 seconds, maybe 21 plus seconds. Congratulations. You're in the SAS.
00:16:43
Speaker
Click this link. fifth That's so good. One thing I did enjoy seeing on Reddit this week was someone who started a post. So when Graham died slash held his breath for a while. like Yeah, that is exactly what he did. yeah ah is it like I mean, again, we do recognise that we're going to move on and pretend none none of this happened, but um I did like Dawn's take on it, because I often think this in soaps when people come back from the dead, that people tend to be just destroy people tend to be very angry about it. And like if someone when I love came back from the dead, I would be hurt that they hadn't mentioned it. But also I think my overriding thing would be just joy that they were alive. yeah if it's someone you cared about, you'd be like, oh, it's nice that you're here.
00:17:26
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, if it's some random person in the village who I didn't really know, like it grimace seemingly to most of these people, I'd be like, oh, okay. But if it was like someone i regarded as a father, e.g.
00:17:37
Speaker
my father, for example, would just be like, oh my gosh, Dad, you're alive. Let's let's cover the wise and wherefores later. Yeah, I guess it would you would end up feeling mixed about it.
00:17:49
Speaker
But I do see that you would hope there was some sort of positive... And that does seem to be where Joe has landed overall. And now nobody can understand why. Because everyone's like, well, why do you want him here? So in a lot of ways, Joe can't win. So true. I mean, Dawn also was like, if my dad came back, I'd just be thrilled. It was like, can we make an exception for your dad? who like Delighted when he died.
00:18:12
Speaker
Something I really enjoyed watching was um like visual signs of struggle through the wardrobe department in that okay when ah when Joe was like not coping with Graham coming back and didn't know what to do The only really way you could tell was that he was at home in tracksuit bottoms um and just sort sitting on the
Character Depth Through Wardrobe and Props
00:18:34
Speaker
sofa.
00:18:34
Speaker
And then that was when Dawn was a bit like, maybe you could try and see the bright side of this. And then the other one was Ruby when she was really worried about Anya. um The visual way you could tell was that in her own home, she wasn't wearing shoes. She was just in socks. She's brinking. She's on the brink.
00:18:54
Speaker
And both her and Joe just looked obviously fantastic. Other than that. Yeah. You're like, he's in trackies and you're in socks. Something's going down. Yeah, I mean, i assume Joe has got incredibly expensive designer trackies, you know, they who if you never wear do any formal exercise. Yeah, probably. It's funny how generally for women in the show, a a huge sign of them not not coping is not wearing mascara. That's like, you know, the rest of the face completely made up, but no mascara, therefore.
00:19:27
Speaker
Yeah. Not doing well. It was incredible the glow up that Dawn had when Evan got out of hospital and she started having an affair. She went to Paris and she just started looking fantastic. We put some pep in her step.
00:19:41
Speaker
Yeah, bless her when she was allowed to wash her face. That must been nice. It was a real bonus for her. Yeah, something else that I noticed about Home Farm, not just the tracksuit bottoms. Kim's got so many enormous jars of like granola and muesli and stuff.
00:19:58
Speaker
Interesting. And I think they're inspired by the traders because they're the same. It's like this IKEA jar that like I think they hold like three litres. I've got a couple of them myself.
00:20:09
Speaker
um And then they've bought a wooden lid with like a leather sort like handle on the top of it, which is quite cute, but I imagine very difficult to wash.
00:20:19
Speaker
And that's taken up a lot of my brain space when I've been watching. But yeah, it's the same ones that they have on the traitors. And I thought, oh, someone's been inspired. so that was a nice uh a nice touch lovely to see um if i owned a house that big i don't know if i spend as much time in my kitchen as they seem to it's like you must have at least three reception rooms that you are not spending time in but i guess those reception rooms are overstuffed with cushions maybe they're just too too difficult to be in Yeah, when there's that many cushions, you do end up sort of being foisted off your own sofa by them. Yeah. I wonder if i wonder Kim's making her own granola as well. like i don't Or maybe like Lydia pops them in and she's like, I'll pop an extra five pounds on the bill and I'll just make some granola for you. I don't know. I think if anyone in Home Farm is making their own g granola, surely it's Gabby. And she's been away. Oh, yeah. Gabby would love to. She's basically this businesswoman in business, although don't know what her job is currently. So maybe she is just doing granola between jobs. Businesswoman in business.
00:21:18
Speaker
yeah She's a B.I.B. She's a B.I.B. What business does she do? does she She doesn't work at the wedding place, does she? ah Isn't she at the Hyde? Oh, gosh. She deserves better than the Hyde.
00:21:32
Speaker
yeah, what does she do? I do a quick Google? Yeah, I mean, who knows if anyone knows. Maybe Gabby's been just pretending for years to have a job. I guess nobody in Emmerdale really does have a job.
00:21:44
Speaker
Where does Gabby work? Have you put Emmerdale in there? Are we just hoping you'll find a random Gabby? It's like Gabby Logan and works at sports quizzes. Hi everybody, it's just Lizzie here. I'm editing the episode and yeah, just a little editorial note from me.
00:22:01
Speaker
At this point we googled Gabby's employment history for quite a long time and Simon's cat sort of started taking a bath like on the microphone and I just decided to cut all of that so we'll come back in with our conclusions here.
00:22:15
Speaker
yeah Okay, so we think she did work at Take a bow which I will say I've always thought was just called Take a Bow and didn't understand why that was the name of a wedding thing, so it was nice to finally get to the bottom of that. oh yeah, it's clever wordplay. Yeah, so she used to work there and now we think is at the Hyde. And I can picture her in one of those aprons.
00:22:37
Speaker
I guess so, but one point she was super into wearing business suits and just like trailing around after kim Yeah, yeah. So I thought maybe she'd be in whatever sort of anonymous businesses Kim and Jo are in.
00:22:48
Speaker
Yeah, I would truly love to know what business Kim and Jo up to. It doesn't appear to be anything tangible other than not investing in a solar farm or something. Yes, which we made a lovely like three slide PowerPoint about.
00:23:02
Speaker
um i mean, a lot of Jo's business concerns are obviously around getting horrible farmland. That seems to be his metier. um yeah and that is still the reason that moira is in prison that he was desperate to get a field ah presumably like he could just buy a field somewhere else he's got loads of money think wouldn't you and well actually he doesn't have loads of money does he because he had to give it to the kidney doctor oh that's true um and then and why doesn't robert also just say like if you're goingnna blackmail my sister for killing someone self-defense i'll just bring up that you stole a kidney but i guess there's so many people blackmailing each other for things it's like once you take this jenga brick out the whole tower is coming down that is very true yeah in one fell swoop the entire village will be arrested yeah um i did speaking of joe think it was quite funny a couple it was a couple weeks ago or beginning of the
00:23:58
Speaker
the the period and it was just really an excuse for him to not quite see Graham when he popped into a domestic animals vet to ask Rona for advice on buying a horse which yeah that Kim was like i don't want a horse but thanks he also was like Rona can't tell anyone and then instantly went and told Kim himself so But like, I mean, equine vets and I'm sure most equine vets or indeed farm vets are not the same as the domestic animal vets because they just don't have time to do both. But in Edmendale, obviously they managed to slot them all in despite never going to work.
00:24:30
Speaker
But like the vets I go to with my cat, I'm sure I'm not going to local farms because they're like 24-7 booked with local cats and dogs. There are quite a lot of mixed practices. um My sister used to work in one.
00:24:43
Speaker
feel me that before, actually. Yeah, I think you would have more than two members of staff, is my takeaway
Community Reactions to Storylines
00:24:51
Speaker
point. And you'd maybe pop into work for now and then. But I guess, okay, fine. I guess Joe could go, but I don't know really what his questions were than like thoughts on a horse. That would seem to be the entire quiz. Have ever encountered a horse? If you could point out a horse on this diagram to me, that would really be be a boon.
00:25:14
Speaker
It did confuse me that Kim wasn't at all interested in having a horse that was related to her beloved horse. Like, you would think that she might just be a bit more into that. Although I do think, I mean, this is not what she was doing, but you know there's some of the people who use the DNA of their dog to like,
00:25:29
Speaker
make a new dog that is the same DNA as their previous dog. yeah Speaking as someone who has an ah identical replica of the same DNA, I'm just like, it's not going to guarantee the same personality.
00:25:42
Speaker
must be a different dog that looks quite like the Arubus one. Yeah, because like Colin doesn't care about period properties and that shakes me. Yeah, and it shapes me. so like he said he doesn't care about Emmerdale.
00:25:58
Speaker
and Although it was quite fun that when we were together last weekend, we introduced our friend Ellie to Emmerdale, which does not seem to have become a lifelong passion for her. But as as you know, my dad messaged saying that he'd watched it for some reason. Yeah, I would love to know what on earth inspired him now to watch Emmerdale. And what what was his comment again? Something about how many characters there were? Yeah, he said, um exciting and confusing, 20 plus characters. And it is so my dad to just count the characters. It's What is also very dead coded is not to answer any follow up questions. So I don't know why he watched it. And I think it's probably something he will take to his grave.
00:26:38
Speaker
He certainly doesn't seem to have continued watching ah either. so It was funny that he's two newbies we knew on Friday, both dipping in for an episode largely around Graham explaining why he was alive.
00:26:49
Speaker
And were my parents watching with us as well? Or was it just you, me and Ellie? I think my parents maybe watched. I think your mum sort of popped in and out. don't remember your dad being there, but maybe. Yeah. Because they're like just, they they they watch one every like six months or so if you're there. but but Yeah, when I'm at my parents' house, sometimes they're like, oh, you shouldn't have to watch TV on your own. And so they watch it with me. But I'm like, you're not going to like this. so so yeah But they're the sweetest souls alive. So they will sit through for you.
00:27:21
Speaker
They are very sweet, bless them. Big fan of Mr Mrs F. No, big fans of you. They're very glad to have you to stay.
Cain's Special Episode: Artistic Choices
00:27:31
Speaker
was lovely. blame ah The other big thing that we have not talked about is Kane's special episode.
00:27:38
Speaker
Gosh, we get a lot of special episodes of late. its Yeah, of course, because we had a sort of, what was it, like a three-hander with um Graham, Kim and was Dawn there as well?
00:27:50
Speaker
She popped in, I think, yeah. Oh, Joe, I mean. Graham, Kim, and Joe. oh yes, that's right. And then, yeah, we had Kane. Actually, oh, I totally forgot. In that one where it was like a special episode on basically Graham and Joe's relationship, there was a quick shot of um Joe as a teenager. And I want to get to the bottom of whether that's actually Ned Porteous as a teenager. And I was going to send a photo of it to my friend who went to school with Ned Porteous and be like,
00:28:19
Speaker
Is this the boy you sat next to? I forgot. No, and maybe it' that's still time. Still time. i love that you've got that friend.
00:28:31
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Yeah, the cane situation. I guess my main observations were it was very artistically shot. um One of the first shots we saw was Armscliff Crag. which is a big rocky outcrop kind of near like Wheaton and Hubie.
00:28:46
Speaker
It did open like a sort of like nature documentary, didn't it? Yeah, I know. It was quite unusual. And I love going to the crag. It's a really nice place to go. It's not in the Dales in the same way making it seem, but it is quite close to the other village though.
00:29:02
Speaker
I just thought going to the crag sounds like someone who's like stumbling into a life of drugs. It's like, oh, they've gone to the crag. I'm sorry to say. I'm very sorry to say they've actually, they've gone the way of the crag. But it was beautiful.
00:29:16
Speaker
it was confusing. it felt very different from Emmerdale, but it was beautiful. Yeah, but then they sort of segued from these beautiful nature documentary shots to what I can only assume is them trying to paint a picture of Leeds. They make Leeds look so desolate. Like, they always just show shots of, like, the inner ring road. There are bits of Leeds that are quite nice, but I guess they wanted to be like, Caleb belongs in the village, and now he's being made to go to a hospital in the big city. you mean Caleb?
00:29:45
Speaker
I meant Cain, obviously. Yeah.
00:29:49
Speaker
was just trying remember if I'd seen him like visit his brother or something, but no. No, of course not. um But yeah, as someone who has spent a significant amount of time, well, not significant, a bit of time recently in the oncology department of one of the hospitals in Leeds, it's not nearly that nice.
00:30:05
Speaker
Not for yourself, we should say. Not for myself, no. um I have been there a few times with a friend of mine. And in Emmerdale, they have a very fancy... Waiting room, there's free teas and coffees. I can tell you, I spent £3 on a peppermint tea at the cafe at St James'. that's broken Britain. and that's just a teabag and water, so take that in.
00:30:28
Speaker
um No cat fancy coffee machines. That consultant, like, her office was lovely. The office of the consultant I went in felt very municipal.
00:30:39
Speaker
It's not like that. It's not like that all. It's not like What did it wear her? Well, they don't were, but you know, the NHS, I guess, they need all the help they can get. They're on their knees. that every yeah have The only way they're getting buyers on overpriced mint tea.
00:30:55
Speaker
I did think, i'm picture the scene, you're like a jobbing actor, maybe like a Wassey Merza type, and by which mean a jobbing actor, and you're just, you you've got a legend or something, and you get a phone call being like, it worked, you got through the audition, you're going to be in a special episode episode of Emmerdale, you're going to be in. gonna play guy that talks to Kane it's like oh my gosh this is huge you get though you're like and the camera operator or director or someone is like so we're doing this weird thing where every single person in this is blurry except Kane so your big starring moment you've like gathered your family around to be like this is the day I'm on TV and this is you know something like some like blurry apparition in the background wouldn't that be galling
00:31:38
Speaker
That would be really grueling. And also I wondered whether, um so the man who talked in the waiting room, I think was also outside the Woolpack later with a bike, like halfway through a bike ride, stopping for a drink.
00:31:52
Speaker
I'm pretty sure it was him or maybe they just doubled up on extras that week. And I thought that he was going to crop back up and be like, hey, how was the appointment? But he didn't. You know, he's just a little sponsored psych for cancer, maybe. i guess so, yeah.
00:32:06
Speaker
I did describe that man as the ghost of Christmas past in my notes. Just being like very informational spiel and also the harbinger of doom. It's just like, yeah, the first time I got cancer was all right. Did you know you're 34% more likely to get of it? I don't think he did that. but um It did feel informational. That is true.
00:32:28
Speaker
Yeah. And also like not what you want. I mean, it's nice that Kane was quite friendly to him, but, but yeah, a I, I don't know. It's not what he needed. im break I've got very croaky all of a sudden. Some sort of like sympathy. you emotional about Kane? He's really tearing up about Kane.
00:32:43
Speaker
um I did find it an emotional episode. I found it also quite tiring to watch of like him just repeatedly not telling anybody anything and you think you could share a bit more. But I think that is obviously the whole point of the episode and being like it's sometimes hard for people like him to let people in and be like I'm struggling.
00:33:05
Speaker
Yeah, and also when you look at your list of possible confidants, it's like, do you really want to have a deeper meaningful with Liam? Yeah, i know. But the thing is that for some reason they are friends.
00:33:16
Speaker
So maybe he should. Yeah, tricky. he does actually And he does eventually. And I did think it was nice that he eventually told Sarah. yeah i was going to say, I thought it was nice that he spoke to Sarah. I thought it was quite um not fitting that she said cancer is hardly something you fit into your lunch break, which is exactly how she approached her recent cancer. Do you remember when she just found out she had cancer? was it? i can't remember which sort of cancer it Something do with the pregnancy was discovered.
00:33:42
Speaker
She was like, yeah i'll just get that sorted. Don't worry about it. Yeah, that's true. That hasn't really hasn't really cropped up since. Yeah, that is an unusual one from her. I also, I thought that she was like an apparition because she was off screen the whole time that um he was saying, like, when he finally was like, oh, I'm not very well and I'm quite scared.
00:34:04
Speaker
She wasn't there. We just heard her voice and he was next to a grave. And I just thought, I bet that this is like in his imagination or something. And I was so relieved when she was actually there.
00:34:15
Speaker
Yeah. And that's the whole episode was in his imagination. Yeah. yeah i guess it could have been i don't know none of us know um i found it unexpectedly emotional when the theme music didn't play that's true that was quite like oh that's that's something um when they do you deploy that powerfully i don't know if they have like variant themes because i know eastenders has like julia's theme which they do for like really sad episodes i really I don't know if Emmerdale does that so I guess the silence is quite good and I thought it was strange when he finally saw Moira in prison and told her that it was it was cancer but it wasn't a big deal and they're going to monitor it it's like are there any cancers where they're just like we're not really worried we're just going to leave that one the big deal i mean yeah actually that can be the case with prostate cancer if it's not that bad or if so my grandad
00:35:11
Speaker
had prostate cancer but he was already quite ill with other stuff and I think basically when you're like over 70 or something you can just like have it at low level and they're just a bit like sure you can take some I can't remember what it is they can treat it a bit just to keep like the levels down below difficult level I'm not a medical person you can probably tell I can't remember he was like can't remember he was taking pills or having injections or something but there was something that was just a bit like we're not super worried about this if you just treat it like this it'll keep it to a low enough level that it never really gets that worrying and maybe they'll do that for kane who knows yeah because i think they're just a bit like if you're over 70 like you have prostate cancer that's just a fact of life oh that's so but it's not a big deal okay yeah enjoy that um i think they're just like it's not in like a stressful way okay but i guess how old is kane like late fifty s
00:36:07
Speaker
Yeah, and that's the thing, is that I don't think he would be in that category. But maybe he's just expecting Maura to believe that he would be. Yeah. I mean, Bessa, she has got a lot on her plate. How old is he? I think I may have aged him too high.
00:36:20
Speaker
I think he is, like, 50. 55, okay. Weirdly, when you, like, Google him, the first image I don't know if you can see, there's just, like, a floating head of him. yeah, gosh.
00:36:33
Speaker
That's the image that I have on a t-shirt of him, actually. okay i bought it as a joke it says cane on it it was from the old post office in a shop nice now you said
Fatigue Over Awareness Episodes
00:36:50
Speaker
the special episode was a like cancer awareness day or something yeah i think it was like maybe even world cancer awareness day i'm not sure wow and i'm sure this will make an impact in far-flung parts of the world yeah timbuktu that's all they're talking about um yeah i do feel a bit sick of special episodes like they used to be once every couple years i remember think i've mentioned before an episode about ashley's dementia which was a special episode and because they hardly ever did special episodes it was and it was done so well it was so powerful whereas yeah we've had like two this fortnight if you're counting the three hundred as a special episode We had the bear, the April, and whoever had the third one, I forget. don't know. Special episodes. We had all of April's homeless special episode. We had so many.
00:37:41
Speaker
ah just like, some episodes don't have to be special. Some episodes can just be mundane. In fact, that's why we watch soaps. Exactly. Yeah, I think I'm with you. it's hard because I do want people to be aware of the issues.
00:37:56
Speaker
But there's just so many issues to be aware of. horrendous. I'm always just issues all day, every day. I'm just not sure. i think they could have the storyline without it needing a special episode and and people would still be aware of it.
00:38:09
Speaker
Yeah, that's true. just i've say You can make me aware of an episode without me having to watch 22 minutes of only that issue. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard as well when it's like you feel like you get special episode fatigue because it's 50% being aware of the issues and 50% just being aware of Graham lying really still for six years.
00:38:31
Speaker
It's like I can only be aware of so many things. And look, if I had to pick it wouldn't be Graham. Yeah. I'd rather i had never become aware of Graham as a concept.
00:38:45
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Right. I think I'm down to just like stray, stray observations, but I do you have quite a few I'm stray. Should we take it in terms to our strays? Yeah, please go for it.
00:38:56
Speaker
Okay, my first one, all I've written is Hot and Pantry Ready Meals. Okay. is that Is that the name of something? yeah it was when Ross was buying a ready meal and was like, I need to replace Lewis's like anti-ultra processed foods, which is good, actually, I think. Mm-hmm.
00:39:16
Speaker
special Need a special episode about ultra-processed foods, please. Well, i I feel like that was almost what they were trying to do. um But Ross was just like, can I buy this to replace like the really ah organic, healthy one that Lewis bought? And it was just like it just said hot and pantry ready meals. And it made me think, actually, this is what I wrote it down.
00:39:35
Speaker
Do you think that um they just buy like a normal ready meal from Asda or something, and then they have Emma Dill graphic designers who've like designed a sleeve and they slide it on and they're like now it's a hot and pantry ready meal and if so how do I get that job I would love to be a graphic designer on Emmerdale because I already just in
Intriguing Details in Emmerdale
00:39:55
Speaker
case anyone there is listening ah already am a graphic designer and I really like Emmerdale so I'd be good at that job Gosh, that was quite hard to hear. it was quite needy.
00:40:09
Speaker
But yeah, they will have, i mean, they've got an art department who will do all those things. And they i do I think the art department's all the great unsung heroes. I mean, we have criticised some of the work, e.g. the menu at the cafe that is just pictures of coffee from different angles. But um generally, I think TV production, art production people, just like they're putting all the effort in and it barely goes notice. And that's why we're here, because we're noticing.
00:40:32
Speaker
thank you yeah we are people who notice more than most yep hot and pantry ready meals what's your first day oh yeah and that was another time when tracy simply didn't care about any questions she's being asked in the shop she's like she's not there for customer service i found out that um the actor who plays tracy is also going on return to leave soon oh she is isn't she yeah They have hidden her pregnancy a lot better than Victoria's, I will say. That's true. Because at one point Victoria was just holding a small tea towel in front of her belly.
00:41:02
Speaker
I guess Tracy can be behind the counter, which helps. Yeah, true. Well, one of my stray things is about Victoria, actually, since you mentioned her. I did quite enjoy the scene where she was just like, Suggen's murder people. She was like, you've murder people. Andy murder people. I've murder people. John's murder. Actually, I don't think Andy's murdered anyone. he was He's on the run for murder, but didn't actually do it. Yeah. um It's like, hey you are you might not even know that Robert killed Katie. i don't know if, can't remember if Victoria knows that. So yeah.
00:41:31
Speaker
And they're like, if Harry gets that killing gene? It's like, well, okay, maybe. He probably will. He lives in Emmerdale. Yeah, he will kill someone. Make a piece of it. Yeah, I felt like there were two moments where was almost like, like almost breaking the fourth wall of like that one where Victoria was like, hang on.
00:41:48
Speaker
everyone in my life is a murderer and then um in the hospital when that random bald man asked Cain like always cancer in your family and then he was just like oh yeah i guess my granddaughter my wife both my parents we do you get a cancer storyline every so every 46 months in us in our family exactly so think um yeah two moments of actors realizing like maybe I'm in a soap maybe that's why bad things happen all the time be funny if they did start referring to their issues as storylines. I might start doing that. and Yeah, well, I was thinking about the circle of murderers, and whilst John is obviously painted as the big villain, i don't think he's the only one who hasn't actually committed murder, because he did only commit manslaughter, as far as I can remember.
00:42:36
Speaker
John? Yeah. No. Who's murdered? Oh, yeah, true. I guess he didn't mean to kill Nate. He did then like go on a kind of murderous rampage and want to kill... he tried to kill any number of people quite badly. Kill them badly?
00:42:56
Speaker
wanted too badly? Yeah, he's like, he's bad at doing it. it I got killed really badly. yeah Yeah, so... In some ways, he is the um the least ah least villainous soldier. In other ways, he's not.
00:43:11
Speaker
Yeah, that's true. Well, I guess I would say Robert didn't really mean to kill Katie. It just, like, happened. He pushed her and didn't know that she was going to fall through a ceiling and break her neck.
00:43:23
Speaker
That's true. He didn't mean to kill whichever guy he killed. He broke Victoria. i forget his name. Oh, I forgot that he killed him. Yeah. And possibly other people we don't remember. But yeah, that's that's my...
00:43:35
Speaker
beautiful um My next stray highlight is also on Victoria. It's that in her flat, I think she has a genuine angle poise lamp. The red one.
00:43:47
Speaker
Ooh. Yeah, I know. like i was looking at it like, I don't think that's a dupe. It looks basically exactly the same as mine. I got mine secondhand, was really, really excited to find a secondhand one that was like only £40. Wild.
00:43:59
Speaker
um And that one looks quite new, so that would have been pretty expensive, unless i too have been duped by the dupe.
00:44:08
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, heaven knows where Havoc Tori saved up the money for anything, basically going to work once a month, but maybe she... maybe she did. maybe I could see her being into it a Nice Lamb.
00:44:21
Speaker
Yeah, who's to say? Okay, great. That was quite as a short stray one. but Yeah, I liked it. um we We don't really seem to have followed up on the storyline of Laurel hitting um Arthur, but it was interesting how fully pro-hitting children Nicola was. she That was my next stray.
00:44:39
Speaker
i literally wrote down, like, Nicola says Arthur was asking for it. Yeah, I wrote down Nicola as team hitting children. yeah and then at the end of that interaction, Laurel was like, well, Nicola, I think you've been very kind. Like, no, she hasn't. She's been through violence against children.
00:44:58
Speaker
I mean, I do quite like the sort of genre of defending your friends' actions when they are completely indefensible, which, you know, it's like an Instagram comedy thing I've seen quite often. Not pro hitting children myself. And also...
00:45:13
Speaker
We know that the water supply in the village is is tricky at the best of times, but Laurel just emptied a whole bunch of drugs into it. Is that going to come back to bite anymore? Yeah, I mean, it's already full of slurry. It might as well also be full of crack cocaine. Yeah,
00:45:29
Speaker
I mean, I'm very confused. Check you your Thames water person about what happens if you do put masses of opiates into the air water supply. I will say it's Yorkshire water because I do not live anywhere near you. Oh, look, I can't be expected to remember where you live.
00:45:44
Speaker
I can't be expected to remember that anybody in this country doesn't live on the River Thames. I mean, Thames water does seem to cover the entire south of England and we can't all live on the Thames. Yeah, that's true. But I guess in a way you you all do. Yeah, suppose you're right. south just the River Thames.
00:46:01
Speaker
That's why it's so wet. finally Finally got to the bottom of it. Finally. um My next one was just that um when Marlon and Rona hugged, you really noticed the height difference. Such a disparity. Yeah.
00:46:16
Speaker
Like, it's actually crazy. That was one of my favourite things about when Victoria was a chef at the pub, because Marlon was also a chef there, and she's like five foot and he's like eight foot. And it was bummed. Wow.
00:46:28
Speaker
um There's nothing really else to say about that. just i didn't I think like you can tell that Marlon's tall, but I don't think you can really tell from many shots that Rona isn't that tall. No, no, i can see I guess she's not she's not like freakishly short.
00:46:41
Speaker
No. She's not a child.
00:46:47
Speaker
Children are freakishly short, it's true. um i absolutely Yeah, it's horrible. It's very disturbing. It would be more disturbing if they emerged full adult size, I That would be incredibly distressing, I imagine, for every mother.
00:47:04
Speaker
I learned the sign language for birth this week in my sign language class. And it really is just like sort of, obviously this is not a visual medium, but you're just like thrusting your arms out as though mimicking giving birth.
00:47:18
Speaker
Wow. Yeah. How did that feel a man? Did it feel like cultural appropriation? felt like ah you like your culture is not my costume sorry um a day is also like you do this again no one else can see this but you're you're sort of mimicking a sunrise with your your arms and so birthday you're going from one to the other and quite like a choreographed thing that's not his we've not signed language awareness on and uh on emidale yet so if you need me i've done two weeks of lessons so if you want someone to come and just do greetings on the numbers then i'm ready it an under a million can do up to 999999 that's nice that
00:47:57
Speaker
excuse it you're poised and ready um we look and do bus as well so that was one of the ones we did anyway um when it all came out about Celia and Ray I liked how Bob was trying so hard to make all about himself and he was like so animated with like about him dating her which he mentioned several different times and then occasionally he's popped up to just comment on his own experience of this it's like Bob you're like me and even in this village you're like maybe the
Character Flaws and Humorous Observations
00:48:25
Speaker
18th most affected person let alone all the slaves we didn't ever get to know about
00:48:29
Speaker
And I'm not sure that Celia at any point would have been able to remember his name. Yeah, she did. For someone who was playing some sort of long con game, she, like, at no point hid her disgust at being around him.
00:48:41
Speaker
What is that noise? Is that your stomach? Oh, that's Harry's purring. Oh, great. Or snoring. it's just where Oh, really? It's snoring, actually. it's I'm sorry if everyone's... um it's not I can't convey I'm not my stomach.
00:48:56
Speaker
Yeah. I'm more and more concerned about your digestive tract at this stage. I didn't know his thinking. up he is quite He is quite a loud snorer, bless him. Whose turn is it to do a stray?
00:49:08
Speaker
are Yours, yeah. way less Unless you're lets your commentary on my stomach was your stray. It has been bothering me for two weeks now. um i I think I maybe said this last time, but it's still still happening. I'm really loving...
00:49:24
Speaker
the amount that they're using like the farm butler's farm outside lots of shots of that people are walking through the farm there are cows it feels really good it feels earthy i'm enjoying nothing else is nice you're stolen they like haven't has any farming content happened segment but yeah that's so true um i just noted down caleb's solicitor must have had such a lovely peaceful life before caleb moved to emmerdale because he is always feeling that solicitor to go and defend somebody in prison usually somebody's guilty
00:49:57
Speaker
So true. I wrote down, actually, Caleb has his solicitors on speed dial. He's like, I'll bring my solicitor. boom Done. Yeah. And you would need to. it And I guess I don't know how legal solicitors work. Maybe it is the same person you use for, like, the tiniest, pettiest crimes through to murder.
00:50:12
Speaker
you know. Yeah, presumably not. Like, they would all have different specialisms, right? You'd think. Like, my i got a few friends who are solicitors for really, really, like, minor things.
00:50:23
Speaker
But, like, and and none of them would take on murder cases. They're more just, like... unpaid parking fines or something. Maybe I need one of those. you want to segue rather into that Yeah, so on Sunday i got pulled over for apparently not having any insurance on my car, which was stressful, I will say, being sat in the back of a police car. And he was being like, you don't have to say anything, but anything you do say, may or like don't say, might be in a call. I don't know. i didn't know what he said. I was just like, what is going on? I felt like I was in an episode of Emmerdale.
00:50:58
Speaker
Turns out, i when I bought my car, I did ask Admiral to transfer my car insurance from my old car to my new one. And then I rang them and I was like,
00:51:10
Speaker
how come you've been insuring my old car, which I no longer own and has been scrapped? And they were like, oh yeah, we can see that you put in a request to transfer your insurance cross.
00:51:21
Speaker
We never approved that request. It was always just pending and you should have noticed that. They blamed you. it blamed me. and now I have to get points on my license and a fine.
00:51:32
Speaker
They should at least give you like some sort of like voucher Debenhams. was like, oh, that doesn't exist know, well, I'm vouching for the plane, and they were just like, well, we'll let you off the £12 admin fee. was like, great.
00:51:44
Speaker
That's so bad, because that's totally on them. know, but also maybe it's not, because they did send me my documents, and I did fail to notice that the registration plate was wrong on the documents.
00:51:56
Speaker
No one reads documents, do they? Yeah. Well, quite. And I'd had that old car for like 10 years. That, to me, was the right registration plate. I just forgot that it wasn't anymore.
00:52:08
Speaker
So if anyone wants to like be my solicitor... can see why the police officer cautioned you not to say everything that came to mind. Because I'm not sure that's the best. yeah, Caleb can get a solicitor on Speed Dial. Does it help you if you frame it as a storyline? If like, my current storyline is car insurance awareness.
00:52:28
Speaker
Yeah, I'm in a car insurance storyline at the moment. It's actually World Insure Your Car Week and make sure you read your renewal documents when they come through a week. I've never even glanced at my renewal documents, gosh. Exactly. I am still in two minds about, I can basically either pay this fine and be like, sure, I'll get six points on my license. which is going to increase my insurance so much. I know. Or I can appeal it and go to court and be like, in a way, this was my fault, but in a way it actually really wasn't. And I don't know which one of those to do.
00:53:03
Speaker
Oh gosh, that is hard. So yeah, if anybody has any legal advice for me um or graphic design jobs are the two things I'm asking for in this episode.
00:53:18
Speaker
I have dignity, I just also know how to ask for help when I need it, unlike Cain and by the sounds of it you. true. Because
00:53:27
Speaker
we're all trying to think what help I do need ah to ask on this podcast now that you've put me on the spot. i think I'm doing all right yeah no you're doing great I'm proud of you thank you do you want to share your other vehicle related news do I have other vehicle related news you sent me photo my word so true I was about to be like well they impounded my car but I got it back um yeah when my car was impounded was cycling down to the post office to sort some paperwork so that I could get my car out That was, by the way, the consequence of the insurance thing, not a separate crime. um And I yeah was cycling down to the post office and saw a car and it said Hotton taxi on it. And I was like, what?
00:54:14
Speaker
Like Hotton must be a real place because there's a taxi that says it. And I Googled it and everything was just like Hotton is a fictional town in the Emmerdale universe.
00:54:25
Speaker
And so I saw that it had like a number on it being like, book this taxi. So I just rang the number and it didn't connect. And I was like, I think I'm seeing a taxi from Emmerdale just parked on a side street near my house. And it's been there a couple of times this week. And I wonder if like, does someone from Emmerdale live there and they just get to take the car home as like a company car? So I don't know what's going on there. was thinking I might leave a note on the windscreen and be like, can we get to the bottom of this, please?
00:54:52
Speaker
Yeah, it's wild. I mean, also quite wild because you'd think if they are just parking out randomly, people are going find that number because they think it's real taxi. If they're like, oh, I'll put that number on my phone for next time I need to taxi or something. I don't know. Yeah. Does anyone actually do that, though?
00:55:07
Speaker
i' I don't know. I've never taken a taxi. You've never taken a taxi? um i've been I've been and a couple of times I've been in taxis that other people have booked, but I've never. Yeah, I've never booked a taxi. I just walk long distances, I guess.
00:55:24
Speaker
crazy what about like when you're going to the airport or the station um i did get an uber last time i went to the airport but generally that sounds a lot like a taxi well yeah i guess if we're splitting hairs um but generally basically generally there's there's an airport bus from oxford so i always just get the airport bus yeah watch this space because i might try and like find out who they are what their story is maybe they'll be on the podcast Oh my gosh.
00:55:55
Speaker
Maybe it it would be funny if it is just like someone's car's broken down in the cast and they're like, oh, ah can so I'm finding hard to get to and from work and they're like oh, do you want borrow the prop car? So maybe a cast member lives near you. It is a nice car. It's an MG.
00:56:09
Speaker
I don't know what means, but I'm glad for them. An MG. I've never heard of an MG. You've never heard of an MG? Have you grown up in England or not? I don't see cars.
00:56:20
Speaker
I don't see cars. so How progressive of you. Yeah, I've heard of some types of cars. like good And that's what you'll be telling the insurance when you get to court.
00:56:40
Speaker
Somebody did asked me where to get what my car was and I couldn't remember. so I had to ask somebody else that where I drove. That's difficult. Because now I can tell you it is a Vauxhall Viva. Live the Viva. Okay.
00:56:52
Speaker
yeah Yeah, I feel like maybe it wouldn't make any difference to you if you did check your insurance for new documents or not. You'd just be like, sounds like a car. Definitely could it be it could be my car. It's a car.
00:57:04
Speaker
Oh, dear. Yeah. I'm just so uninterested in cars, but they do help you get from A to B, I suppose. Do, in a way. um Have you got any more strays? I've got one more, I've got one more! We're so
Grammar and Authenticity in Dialogue
00:57:16
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in tune. we're say uh kim said at one point and i forget what it was in reference to i wish i was which answers my question of which characters would correctly use the subjunctive because you should be saying i i wish i were was like kim i feel like would know to use the subjunctive but it's a shame that the script writers don't Other people I wouldn't expect it from. But, Kim, used find this on Neighbours all the time. They'd always use you and i even when it should be you and me, including, like, English teachers in the show. It's like an English teacher knows how to use you and me or you and I correctly.
00:57:53
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You would hope. You would think better of her. Who else do you think would know how to use the subjunctive? of Liam? Liam, oh my gosh, Liam loves subjunctive. i bet And I bet he can do it in Latin as well. i I'd back like Rona to use subjunctive correctly. yeah um And then maybe that maybe that's it.
00:58:13
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Maybe that's it. Gabby would probably try but get it wrong occasionally. I think Gabby might just slip into being like, it was myself. Yeah, exactly. I'm trying so hard to better myself, but it just simply can't happen.
00:58:29
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Yeah, but no, I think it's a subjunctive free zone most of the time. Oh, that's so sad for the village. Well, I guess when we're there our tour, we will just relentlessly be using the subjunctive correctly. Just some grammar tips out and about. was always very impressed Beyonce correctly is a subjunctive in If I Were a Boy.
00:58:48
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name say if if we can't learn it from Beyonce, what can we learn? Isn't it just one of those things that sounds wrong to people? As in, like if she was to sing if she were to sing If I Was a Boy, that would sound wrong.
00:59:03
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But then Alicia's Attic sang I Wish I Was You. Yeah. yeah Much to digest. It's like when you said about in the end of Amazing Grace, when sing no less days to sing God's praise. It should really be there's no fewer days to sing God's praise than when we first began. And do always sing fewer. that's lovely. Because I'm not singing imperfect grammar for anyone.
00:59:32
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And how do you think that will change in the new creation for yourself? And I did just use yourself ironically. i know it's wrong. Just very traitors coded.
00:59:43
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Very traitors coded. Yeah, i don't I don't know how to answer that question. I'm sorry to say that. it probably won't be top of mind i suppose it's like church unity versus grammar which one there is another church worship song which has the the word unexplainable in and i do always sing inexplicable for that so is that the song indescribable that's the one because for a song about how hard it is to describe god it does have a lot of words it's really giving it a go it's trying hard i wonder I wonder if we've wandered too far from Emmerdale. I think we have.
01:00:18
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um Okay, my final stray highlight is um I don't think that was Portuguese Pottery that Gabby brought back and got smashed. I know Portuguese Pottery.
01:00:29
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You know, the sound of smashing pottery. do we see it? We saw it. They were like sort of holding it on the kitchen work surface and trying to put it back together in a way. um Yeah, it looked like it was just like slip cast and then they'd printed a design on it.
01:00:45
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So that's a shame. Tricky. But she might have been yeah missold it in Portugal, I guess, by some chance of. Yeah, that's also true. I did see some pottery like that in Greece. And also in sort of like Dunelm.
01:00:57
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say I'm often on my phone during Emberdale, I'll admit, so I did miss when we actually visually saw it. I just get so scared that we're going to come to a podcast episode and I'm going to have nothing to say that I actually have started devoting almost my full attention to Emberdale when I'm watching it.
01:01:13
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that's more they can expect gosh well we already wouldn't have anything to say on this episode and we've gone over an hour and arguably at least 50% of it's not been about emma dale but yeah and i'm meant to be meeting my friend in 10 minutes oh right well we need to do our our name person so your friend can wait um i'm also meant to be driving to wantage why on earth are you driving to wantage all places it's a really really good secondhand bookshop and my friend are i and i are going secondhand book shopping together that's nice isn't that wholesome so it links into pottery gate it is gabby ahby who we don't know anything about we don't even know where she works um no i guess we do you know that she has seemingly forgotten all about vinnie although we haven't seen vinnie in years is vinnie still alive he's holding his breath somewhere don't worry
01:02:05
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um Yeah, isn't that funny that that was such a big storyline and that she doesn't give him a moment's thought ever since? Yeah. and she's one of the characters, I think she's been the character has been in there since birth, obviously not the same actor the whole time, but I think she has been there since 2001, 2002, maybe. That's big deal.
01:02:25
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Yeah, and managed to cling on despite both her parents leaving the show, which is nice. And her best friend Liv. and her best friend Liv and they obviously have tried to do like occasional reinvention of her because she when I was watching before she was just like bratty teenager maybe pre-teen at that point um and didn't really have any storylines other than sulking and then when I came back she'd been re-envisioned as like a businesswoman of business as mentioned but um yeah I'd like her to have like
01:03:00
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And we were glad that the Vinnie thing didn't really happen, but it'd be nice if she was part of a quite more stable couple, but I don't know who it would be with. i mean, could it be with Cammy?
01:03:11
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and They have sort of hinted that, but I just don't i don't know if that's a good idea, but maybe. maybe Like, could be quite fun, because she's quite serious. Yeah, I think Cammy and Belle would be better.
01:03:25
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Well, he was on the Inside Soap podcast yeah um this week, and he said he'd like can we try end up with charity which I quite appreciate it
01:03:35
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I can kind of see that I think that be hilarious it would be funny I mean what there's what like a 30 year age gap or something which is upsetting but yeah and he also went out with her granddaughter it's unusual um but yeah i I like I like Gabby's relationship with Laura and with Kim i like and wimb bit with Bernice when she pops by I like that they bring out different things and that she does have this quite complex multifaceted character that you just comes up having been built up for 20 plus years um and i sort of but we said with verona last time you just don't really know how she react i feel like you do know how gabby or a react to anything yeah in a good way she's quite a great like yeah which i think is good and it's quite and she will react in quite a nuanced way but you can sort of you'll be like yeah that that's what gabby would do and i like that yeah she's quite consistently gabby which can't be said for
01:04:27
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many other characters um i would like to see more of her relationship with laurel because i feel like as you say she doesn't have like many close relationships in the village but laurel did basically raise her yeah and i wouldn't i mean do i want this she i don't know when she last looked at hassan been maybe she should pay still some more attention together she was carrying him through the door wasn't she so that was nice yeah But yeah, you're right. Other than that.
01:04:58
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She does love to go on foreign holidays. She loves to go on foreign holidays. Maybe she slept with someone else in Portugal. is she always in Portugal? Do they have a house there? Does Bernice live in Portugal? a No, but maybe.
01:05:11
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Maybe? Yes, because do you remember when she slept with the guy before? was when she was visiting Bernice. That's right, because Bernice knew all about it. Maybe she's got back together with that The random guy the Yeah, maybe.
01:05:23
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Can't hurt. Can't hurt. Could have. um Yeah, give Gabby some more stories. I like it when she does a sort of like sharp comedy. She's quite like no nonsense and funny at times, which I think she does well. So a bit more of that would be nice.
01:05:36
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Yeah. yeah Sorry, I don't have much to say about Gabby. But when I have been watching older episodes, it has been nice to see her as a teenager and be like, oh, that's I really we say a lot. I love how Amadell keeps the actors long term. Mm hmm.
01:05:51
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Because she could be the ones you'd easily have thought, oh, we better axe her now that both her parents have left the show. but saying And I'm glad they tried to find another place for in the show rather than doing that. Yeah, no, it's good, for sure. And she's got a great surname. saying Thomas. So true.
01:06:05
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Thomas. Yeah. It's a great one. It's a great one. You wear it with pride. Are you related to Gabby in any way? Oh, my gosh. Well, my dad was a vicar. Her dad was a vicar, so probably.
01:06:16
Speaker
oh my word. Is your dad Ashley? Ashley. My dad is his dead, Ashley. No, my dad is very much alive and um has never been accused of elder abuse. This is second time we've talked about him maybe dying. Is it? When you were like, oh yeah, um someone I loved came back from the dead, like my dad. dot That's true. In which case, he's very much alive and has never even gone through a brief sojourn of dying.
01:06:45
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Same. He's never even held his breath for that long. He doesn't seem and laid very, very still. He does like to lie still sometimes. yes It's something he's got into in his retirement.
01:07:00
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Oh dear. you Well, people have heard him. He's done voice notes for the podcast before. Yeah, that's so true. Signs of life. Yes, proof of proof we needed. ah You covered some of the farming earlier that we've seen some farms shot. Has there been actually any farming activity?
01:07:19
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I don't know. As in they've been like walking through and looking at cows and stuff. Yeah. I don't who's looking after all the farm work. Yeah, me too, actually, because, yeah, Moira's in prison and Kane's on death's door. And Matty is useless, it seems. Matty's just constantly crying.
01:07:36
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but I wonder whether Robert will work quite a lot harder now because he feels bad guilt work, you know? Yeah, there maybe will, yeah. We'll see. nice We'll see if there's any of that.
01:07:48
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01:08:04
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01:08:16
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and Well, we better both go. i've got We've both got to go to our respective friends. Yeah, well, have fun in Wantage. thank you Bye, everyone.
01:08:27
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ah hey it