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April is having the cruellest month (Emmerdale 20-31 October 2025)
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We relucantly address the April/Dylan misery-fest, but not for long... cos we are swept away by our favourite new house share, which cast members we'd talk to, and the return of Lydia Watch!
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Transcript
Introduction and Emmerdale's Tone
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to Dingle All The Way. i'm Simon. And I'm Lizzie. And we're going to talk about the last couple of weeks of Emmerdale. And it's, well, it's not been a fun time for anyone. We've talked about how it's its sort of bleak house population, all of Emmerdale, for a little while. But it's just when you think it can't get any bleaker.
00:00:20
Speaker
Yeah, we were just saying, well, I was just saying, and I think you agree, It's a combination of both boring and traumatic which is not something I normally seek out in TV program that i want to watch for entertainment purposes but it does seem to be what we've locked into over the last couple of weeks.
00:00:37
Speaker
Yeah because we I love a boring cozy show and I on occasion and I guess watch a traumatic interesting show but boring and traumatic is ah one of life's real m mismatches. Yeah, like I would say they're kind of going solo in the middle of that Venn diagram at the moment, but I'd be interested to know if anyone else is watching other things that are both boring and traumatic, we could create a collection of no-go TV shows.
Comparing Emmerdale to Literature
00:01:05
Speaker
Great, great shout. I feel like there's some game shows from the 90s that probably would fit in that place beautifully. um And I don't know Emma Dale is being inspired by T.S. Eliot as such.
00:01:16
Speaker
But um you, I'm sure, all be familiar with the opening line to The Wasteland. Oh, of course. April is the cruelest month. And April is having a terrible time. Yeah. Oh, my word. I know that we have avoided talking about her for some months now.
00:01:30
Speaker
But I think the time has finally come for us to just lay bare our feelings about the storyline, which I think at times has been the most boring and is now the most traumatic. Would you agree?
00:01:44
Speaker
Yeah, and as I've said before, I've been skipping quite a lot of it, but I haven't i don't think I've skipped much. Well, no, I skipped some of it. but But now, i mean, how much misery can they heap on this young girl? So she got pregnant underage. She lost her baby's stillbirth.
00:01:59
Speaker
She lived homeless. She is being forced into possibly upcoming prostitution, attempted prostitution and drug dealing. And now she's accidentally murdered someone.
00:02:10
Speaker
Yeah, and her friend from being homeless was killed because of her. As in, like, she dived in to save her. Like, all of it has just been terrible. And I just think it's actually too much.
Plot Critiques and Anecdotes
00:02:22
Speaker
I'm not okay with it. And I know that a lot of teenagers face things that are too much. But would they face all this in one or six month period? I don't know. I also feel like it's too much for us. Like, ape she's a great actress, but I feel like it's become like the April show recently. Yeah. And it's unusual for a child actor to get, I think she said as a child, to get um this much screen time. But, oh, my goodness. I mean, it's just, it's unbearable. And I hate Ray. i hate Celia.
00:02:51
Speaker
ah don't need them romancing Laurel and Bob. I don't need just them to get all tangled in. Yeah, I am kind of interested in the romance things, as in it's very obvious that Celia actually can't stand Bob, and I mean, who could? um And he's she's just playing him.
00:03:07
Speaker
But I wonder whether the Laurel Ray thing could actually be genuine, and then it all comes crashing down when it comes out who he is. i don't know. That's my prediction. Yeah, because we do see a bit more heart from Ray occasionally. seems slightly reluctant to be, like, traumatising children.
00:03:22
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I do wonder... what their sort of drug empire is if it rests entirely on two relatively useless teenagers. Yeah, they do seem like really disproportionately gutted when Dylan and April aren't able to do something for them and you think surely you've got a bit more going on than that.
00:03:41
Speaker
um It does seem to be a full time job for them to be sort of lurking in corners and and warning them. And also playing pool at the Hyde. Yeah. And look, we know from Moira and Robert that farming is a twenty four seven business, which Celia doesn't seem to have any staff. And I don't know when she's fitting all the farming in.
00:03:59
Speaker
Yeah, she's just sort floating around and hoping for the best. I mean, does she actually have a farm? No one's ever been there. Maybe she just actually is a drug lord and has convinced everybody she's a farmer. That's where she's held that stick all the time. She's like, she's seen a shepherd in a nativity story. And she's like, what do they do? um The highlight of this story for me personally was, I don't know if you remember ah few weeks ago, I said that I was cycling to work down the Kirkstall road and I saw them unloading ah bus stop from a lorry outside the TV studios. And then it was the bus stop that they were waiting at when Dylan and April tried to escape.
00:04:37
Speaker
It was the same one and I was like, I saw that happen. That's so exciting. Yeah, know. That is cool. Wow, wow. one brief moment of joy amongst all the terror was that. I will say if I had just stolen thousands of pounds and was desperate to away as soon as possible, I'd probably get an Uber.
00:04:53
Speaker
I wouldn't rely on rural bus networks. Yeah, and I might like not go anywhere where there might be CCTV. like Go somewhere else in the countryside rather than going from Emmerdale, a kind of probably fairly unseen village, to Manchester I think they were planning to go to.
00:05:10
Speaker
Mm-hmm. And they seem to be getting that bus from Leeds. Like, there's just CCTV everywhere. You're going to be seen. You're not even trying to hide yourself bad news them. Obviously, it's going to come crashing down.
Crime and Romance in Emmerdale
00:05:24
Speaker
I did have a question, re Celia, being um a woman and the head of a drug gang, because, you know, we love to see women and in men-dominated fields. Women in STEM. Women in STEM.
00:05:35
Speaker
So I asked previous VoiceNote guest Sam, a barrister who... specialize well amongst other things specializes in prosecuting country lines organizations, I guess.
00:05:47
Speaker
how How likely is that women are the leaders of these things and what role women tend to play in um this sort of crime? So over to you, Sam.
00:05:59
Speaker
There are quite a large number of examples of women operating in senior criminal functions within organisations. It's not as uncommon as people would think. It's less well publicised, I think, than people assume.
00:06:13
Speaker
But there are actually a large number of women who operate within professional criminal outfits, either as a sort of matriarch function, so a sort of boss.
00:06:24
Speaker
I prosecuted a group who were involved in wholesale um distribution of drugs. And that whole thing was run by a woman. um That is often the case, or it can often be the case, where the criminal enterprise family-based.
00:06:41
Speaker
So you very often have a sort of matriarch um running things. You also can have... um very senior women running outfits that are secondary to the drug trade. So the laundering process for the money or running other businesses associated with it. So, um, it's frequently the case that sexual exploitation that a accompanies, um,
00:07:05
Speaker
This sort of outfit will be, if not run entirely, then there will certainly be oversight by senior older women. For obvious reasons of, um that that well, the reasons that are obvious to everybody in terms of why that would be more appealing, but also for the grooming aspect, ah the exploitation aspect.
00:07:21
Speaker
If the target of your grooming and exploitation is young women, it is ah more effective often to have an older woman doing that grooming and exploitation than an older man. And so where sexual exploitation can sometimes go hand in hand with drug trafficking, it would make sense. It would be a it would be a natural corollary of that.
00:07:39
Speaker
In terms of female gang, sort of county line operations run by women, yeah I have known them. They're less common by some way because the gangs that tend to run county lines tends to ten to run county lines are run by um groups of men between 18 and 30, maybe a little bit older.
00:08:00
Speaker
There are obviously exceptions that prove that rule, but that tends to be how um the county line model works. But where there is a drug distribution network that goes hand in hand with something else, it's not at all uncommon for there to be senior women within it.
00:08:16
Speaker
um Thanks Sam. So yeah, it turns out Celia not such an outlier as we thought. mean, I can't imagine there's many who are also farmers, but you know, she's ticking box all over the place. Yeah, so true. Gosh, it is scary, isn't it? How much um of this is real. And maybe that is something that we need to be more like, I don't know, it's really, it's a tough watch, isn't it?
00:08:38
Speaker
But they are trying to present something that's real. yeah I always wonder about that argument because people say like ah it happens so we should see it and I sort of get that for like heart-hitting you know state of the nation drama but it's a soap it's on all year round like there are a lot of things that are real that aren't miserable like things aren't more real because they're sad yeah that's true they should be putting in some more real stories of happiness that happened because I'm trying to what was happy in the past couple weeks well we do seem to be lining up for a sort of Jay Carey romance that you simply don't want.
00:09:12
Speaker
Yeah, that is confusing to me. And I feel like we famously hate Jay and he's just like a pantomime villain. Hmm. But if you give Jay a heart, he's just a very boring character.
00:09:27
Speaker
And I don't want to see that either. Yeah, I mean, he's just pathetic, really. And, you know, I've got some sympathy for the pathetic people because I like to think I'm quite pathetic. um Something I think you pride yourself on. Exactly. I've worked hard at it over 40 years to get to this level.
Unresolved Storylines and Humor
00:09:43
Speaker
But... um Yeah, it does feel a bit like they've got two characters they don't know what to do with and they're like, well, one we just jammed them together. Yeah, because it would literally never happen. Like, Kerry despises him.
00:09:55
Speaker
I just don't think, and I know that there's the classic trope of like, oh, love and hate is actually just a fine line and maybe when you're halfway through an argument you'll end up kissing. But like, it wouldn't happen with them.
00:10:06
Speaker
it would absolutely not happen. No, and like, don't get me wrong, I love our enemies to lovers romance as much as the next person, but they have to be actually interesting.
00:10:16
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's ridiculous, and of course it's going to happen, they're going to end up having a thing, and it's going to be awful, and we're going to have to watch it. Yeah, it it did amuse me in, you know, Kerry, obviously you can understand why Kerry would take some time off for her daughter's inquest results, I mean, maybe pop that in um in a Teams message, just so you know where you've gone, but and But it did amuse me that in this little sort of booze up, I guess, ah sympathy booze up in the shop, that nobody thought of Susie. Like Vanessa could have come, Mary could have come. It's true. Like everybody had erased Susie, which I guess in a way they did in her death.
00:10:56
Speaker
That's true. And we haven't seen Vanessa for a while, so well Yeah, presumably she's just like the actors on holiday or something. So we're not yeah not seeing any of it. But yeah, you're right. Bless Susie. She wasn't even mentioned.
00:11:10
Speaker
They never really resolved the whole like Vanessa Mary, Susie, love triangle but posthumous thing that was banging on. But um yeah. I feel like there' have been quite a few things.
00:11:21
Speaker
And this is my beef with Emmerdale the moment. All of the storylines that are dragging on forever are are difficult to watch and all of the storylines that could be quite interesting they seem to set it up and then just pull the plug on it for example the triangle that you just mentioned the carl and clemmy thing which just like they had one conversation they were like you know what that trauma you inflicted it's actually fine gabby and vinnie just they got married and then straight away they're not married anymore anya comes in
00:11:52
Speaker
interesting ruby talks to her a bit and then she's gone and i i think anniel will probably come back but i just feel like they're doing quite a lot of like quite interesting storylines that they do for like a week or two weeks and then it's like yeah i guess that's done yeah i was amazed that the particularly the car clammy one because it really seemed to be like setting up to be ah big like kings versus tates feud that might roll on and like we might actually look at the serious ramifications of it but instead they're just like I'm sorry.
00:12:21
Speaker
That's nice. I guess I'll stay at that school and that photo has magically disappeared from the well. Yeah. I think it kind of morphed into the Joe versus Jimmy car thing somehow.
00:12:34
Speaker
But then because they settled their differences and Carl and Clemmie had a very stilted conversation, everything was suddenly fine. Yeah. Weird. Very weird. Um, I did quite enjoy uh,
00:12:49
Speaker
ah Jimmy being run down by the car. Not that he was, but I just found it all quite quite interested interesting. I don't know. And also, Joe drives quite a flash car. He would definitely have a dash cam. Oh, that's true. Yeah. So I don't really know why they didn't just go for that. don't know if you mentioned this.
00:13:05
Speaker
I'm pretty sure when just before Joe like hit Jimmy, I think the music in his car was just a song that said, I love money.
00:13:17
Speaker
bit on the nose, isn't it? But he does. like He loves money. I'd like to go back and revisit that. I'm pretty pretty sure that's what he was listening to. That's amazing. I love money. um I can't remember if it was Jimmy that Bob was talking about, but one of my favourite lines from the past week was in the queue for prostate exam that was just tailing around the village, apparently, um where Sam, I think he was talking about Jimmy, and Bob said,
00:13:41
Speaker
He was run over Sam. There's not really a test for that.
00:13:46
Speaker
It's like so good. Um, but yeah, I don't really know the ins and outs, so to speak of, um, of the test results again, because I thought it was sort of, you just tested it then and there and you found out what, I don't know what they're, what these things that are coming later.
00:14:02
Speaker
yeah I actually have no idea it does seem like they're sending results later because they're just like finding out now but yeah I mean maybe you should find out I mean I is this too much information I have had my prostate in the past I'm so glad and how long did it take for your results to get back well he just told me instantly that um maybe maybe oh I've been the victim of medical malpractice I do remember the main thing I remember about it is that he said are you happy happy for me to do the exam now and I said but say happy but I am willing
00:14:36
Speaker
how did that go down yeah I mean he was probably like right now it's not the time for your like verbal pedantry like we're both doctors here sir just mine happens to be of words I am a doctor of vocabulary um yeah i love that for you Well, I'm very glad that you got it checked. Yeah, I don't prostate cancer guy. It's huge. Huge news from you. um And I mean, I loved that bit just because it was Cain being nice to Liam. And I mean, is is it illegal to offer discounts exclusively to men? I suspect yes, but to be worked out.
00:15:16
Speaker
Yeah, maybe. But I mean, yeah, I think it worked out fine. And I like you. I really like the friendship between ka and Liam, even though I think it's completely unrealistic and that they would never spend time together in real life.
00:15:30
Speaker
It's sweet to see. And then when Liam tried to hug him, Kane was like, I knew you'd do this. yeah just Just be hugged, Cain. Everyone needs a hug now and then. Everyone needs a hug. Yeah, so true.
00:15:42
Speaker
We're bopping around quite a bit and I do feel like that's mainly my fault. But is there um is there anything else you wanted to say about Dylan and April? as That seems to be the main thing. i did skip the bit where um Ray found the bus stops. I don't actually know what happened there.
00:15:57
Speaker
But I'm assuming bad things. um Yeah, he was just like, what do you think you're doing? And got really angry and was just like, you can't run away. I'm in charge here. Right. That kind of thing.
00:16:11
Speaker
No, I just don't have anything else to say, really. Like, I mean, the actors are doing a great job, right? Dylan and April are both great actors. um And, you know, the scene between Dylan and Paddy was lovely. I feel like there's any number of people who've said to Paddy, you've been more of a father to me than my dad ever was. It's just like,
00:16:28
Speaker
that's just a greeting for him now. That's his bread and butter. it Really say home from home. he's like, yeah, of course I am. I'm Paddy. But he didn't really seem to care about it that much. I found it quite moving that Dylan was saying those things. But then Paddy was just like, cool. He just left the house. He was like, okay, bye. Yeah. Like I think Dylan even said like, I love you, which would be huge for him. And Paddy was like, sure.
00:16:49
Speaker
Bye. Of course you do Yeah. Everyone does actually. um But no, I don't think I've got anything else to say about that. I'm sorry to say. oh except for this mysterious bag of money that was taken. And I don't know why Ray wasn't just like, oh, I popped my bag down. i think you might have taken it into your house by accident.
00:17:05
Speaker
Yeah. That would have been so easy. it would have been so easy. Yeah, I do feel like Ray is quite dumb. And you can tell that he's just quite scared of Celia and will do...
00:17:15
Speaker
like anything to smooth things over and then spirals a bit and gets other people involved but it's not nice to watch i kind of just i'm a bit done with it all and i was wondering like what is the way out here because even though from an outside perspective we can see that like going to the police would not be as in like they're making april feel like if she goes to the police they'll just kill all her family But that won't happen.
00:17:43
Speaker
As in, they could just like protect her family, no? And be like, cool, you are the people in danger because your family member is involved with this horrible gang.
00:17:54
Speaker
We'll sort of out. But like she's not going to realise that. Would she go to Ross, maybe? Oh, she should go to Ross. That's definitely what she should do. um Yeah, was to think in reality, I guess you might go into old Witty P, Witness Protection.
00:18:08
Speaker
um But otherwise... he Thank you. You're welcome. Yeah, within the show, I think it's just going to... She eventually will tell... I would love it to Ross, I was thinking Marlon, but Ross would be good.
00:18:20
Speaker
ah And the police will come and sort it out. I don't know we mentioned again, but I guess the police might discover that Celia is not, in fact, the the leader of a huge operation, but only has two drug dealers who are children.
00:18:34
Speaker
Yeah, it's all getting a bit beyond belief, isn't it? But um hopefully it'll be drawn to a close fairly soon. I fear it won't, but hopefully it will. It does seem like we've got a long time left. Maybe it'll be up till Christmas, but I hope not.
00:18:48
Speaker
I can't cope with that. I truly can't cope with that.
Cultural Commentary on Halloween
00:18:52
Speaker
So what else been going on? as you yeah You mentioned Anya. And I did write down, one can only assume that Annie will be safer in a war zone.
00:19:01
Speaker
they could come to Amadella of all places. Yeah, someone is bound to commit some sort of fraud, crime, assault against her in absolutely no time. so Yeah.
00:19:14
Speaker
And I really just think there's something about a soap trying to do this sort of storyline that I just don't feel like it's going to go well. But at the same time, i guess it's really good...
00:19:26
Speaker
for a wide soap audience to understand that people coming here are desperate and not evil and, you know, go against the sort of messaging of reform, et cetera, that is dominating the tabloids. Yeah. So maybe it's good that it will humanize the situation.
00:19:40
Speaker
Yeah. If we ever see her again, i think she probably will come back. It's difficult to know where the storyline is going to go. ah don't really know what's going to be happening there, but I did enjoy seeing Ruby's sensitive side come out. and Yeah.
00:19:53
Speaker
And I liked that Caleb wasn't being like, I, you know, hate hating any because she was a refugee or anything, but just like more cautious about going to prison and trying to protect Ruby. And it was both them like had quite sympathetic perspectives on it, I thought.
00:20:09
Speaker
Yeah, I think you're right. um Yeah, I just struggle to know where this is going to go. is she maybe going to get caught up with John at the border or something? Oh, gosh. I mean, I do worry that she'll end up working in the shop. It seems like the ultimate progression. Yeah.
00:20:24
Speaker
And she'll be longing to be back in danger elsewhere. Anything's better than those gingham tables. Anything. And the very, I'd say, overwhelming and intense Halloween decorations that they've got.
00:20:37
Speaker
You can do entirely change the lighting of the shop. I can't remember who was in there in today's or yesterday's episode, but I looked at it and i literally couldn't work out where they were. I was like, oh, that's the shop. What have they done?
00:20:50
Speaker
like you certainly can't find any goods that you might wish to be purchase. It's simply too dark. Yeah, something quite interesting about the last week of Everdale is that they seem to be painting a picture of um England that is like completely consumed by Halloween. Yeah.
00:21:07
Speaker
And we are increasingly going that way, it seems. It's a shame. People are asking each other, like, what are your plans for Halloween? Like, nobody has plans for Halloween. No. If you have children, and maybe. But if you don't, it's just like, I don't know. I'm just, like, suddenly remembering that I should have maybe bought some sweets because there are children ringing my doorbell. That's what I'm doing tonight.
00:21:25
Speaker
Yeah, we are recording on Halloween. I'm going to my friend's house to watch a movie unrelated to Halloween. Yeah, I I'm just going to watch Traitors with my housemate. Like, I don't know. No one's saying, like, do you have Halloween plans?
00:21:37
Speaker
no one's throwing Halloween parties unless they have school-aged children. like It's very strange. And I thought, maybe, are they trying to appeal to, like, US viewers? I'm not sure. kaween I did see a great tweet the other day, which was, however much you think Americans enjoy Halloween, it's more than that.
00:21:54
Speaker
Wow. I just don't get it. But that's because I'm not American, I suppose. Yeah. I mean, I hate Halloween partly because of the arachnophobia. um yeah but I'd say mostly because of the arachnophobia. Yeah.
00:22:06
Speaker
with a sprinkling of the like do we really need to celebrate these things particularly the ones that just go like full terrifying yeah I think maybe I could get behind it more if we were a bit more towards the American end which seems to just be like dress up in fancy dress as anything and it doesn't have to be like awful whereas I think because in England usually people are dressing up as things related to like death and like things that are genuinely traumatic I don't want to see that and I especially don't want to encourage children to see that what's that theme park I think it's in Yorkshire like fresh water something something water something else I've heard of fresh water in Yorkshire no The reservoir is full of it.
00:22:51
Speaker
Reservoirs are dangerously low, Simon, and you know that. Sorry, no, you're right. That was very insensitive of me. um i can't remember what it's called. I think it's around there. I went there with my brother a while ago, not realising that it is very, very much aimed at children, um which made it even weirder that there were just people dressed as like there's someone with a chainsaw covered in fake blood. There was, can't remember other things, but there were things that like, I was in my early 30s when I went and I was scared.
00:23:18
Speaker
And if I'd been like seven, I would never have recovered. Yeah, I think it's horrible. One of my really good friends in Leeds is an A&E nurse and she despises Halloween because she's like, there are people dressed up in like fake blood and all this stuff that i spend my life surrounded by people who are genuinely injured and I have to really try and help them.
00:23:43
Speaker
Can we not normalise this please? Yeah, Horrible. Weirdly, Jay decided to celebrate Halloween by but bringing two pizzas to Laurel at 10pm and then leaving them there.
00:23:54
Speaker
Like, what was the plan? ah truly don't know. It's like, are you she' suggesting that she then just ate two pizzas on her own? don't know. Was one for, um what's her son called again?
00:24:06
Speaker
Not Archie, the other one. so Thomas? not Thomas. What's his name? No, the that just worked at the place. Yeah, Arthur. So-name Thomas. Was there one for Arthur? One for perhaps? Yeah, maybe. I mean, Arthur's literally serving those pizzas at work. Yeah, he's not going to want to see another one, surely. What was it called? Petrifying pepperoni or something? No, putrid pepperoni. Don't put them in a foodstuff. No, I'm never going to order anything putrid, not intentionally. Absolutely not.
00:24:33
Speaker
um something that I did spot in that scene when, which is sort of, you know, part of Jay's continuing redemption arc, I guess, uh, where he gave her a bunch of flowers that she pulled the flowers out of the wrapping by the petals.
00:24:44
Speaker
I was like, Laura, what are you doing? work She's completely taken leave of her senses. Like all great, these lovely stalks and just scattered petals.
00:24:56
Speaker
And also where are the, dozens of members of the king family who live in the house
Character Absences and Speculations
00:25:01
Speaker
have they all gone off to a halloween party together yes so true are they all in the wooden ship outside that's how they celebrate halloween i should have remembered that i'm sorry how could you not yeah there's just so much going on none of it pleasant and something that i think is not unrelated to how difficult i'm finding emmerdale at the moment is that once again I'm asking the question where on earth is Lydia?
00:25:31
Speaker
oh my gosh where is Lydia? It's literally been months and it might even be like a similar length of time to the last time she wasn't in it. She was in for like a couple of episodes and then she was gone again and she's been gone for such a long time.
00:25:46
Speaker
forgotten if she even existed. Exactly haven't. I'm coming I hope that the actress isn't ill or something but Yeah. We do. I mean, she would sort out so many of the problems going on. can you imagine if April talked to Lydia? Oh, my gosh.
00:26:01
Speaker
She would just give Celia stern talking to. Yeah, she'd be filled with the wrath of God. She would talk to Celia. would probably talk to the police and it would all be fine. It would be all sorted. Oh, my goodness. She'd sort everything out with Kevin and Robert probably somehow. Yeah. ah just We just need Lydia back.
00:26:17
Speaker
Come on, Lydia. Come through us November needs Lydia. Yep. yeah um I guess kevin robert so like Kevin Robert Aaron is the next story we should we should talk about. and i have so much to say.
00:26:31
Speaker
I'll just start by saying on the previous podcast, or maybe the one before that, i was ah I came out as a Kevin fan, and I will say that has influenced highly dissipated i'm really glad i was gonna quiz you on that i was like all along i have said i don't particularly like or trust kev and you've been all like he's just vulnerable and sad and i'm really glad that you've changed your tune because i find him very very repulsive i gave him the benefit of the doubt and i was you know i was wrong sometimes you just need to give people the doubt okay okay short so i get straight to doubt
00:27:03
Speaker
No benefit, just doubt. um One of my first things that I wrote down was, where on earth was he having that breakfast with Robert? It was in like some sort of garden.
00:27:15
Speaker
well, I think it was maybe the cafe's got like outdoor seating or maybe the B&B has like outdoor seating. It looks freezing because, it you know, didn they probably recorded it when it wasn't that cold. But what maybe it's just because watching it as it was so cold. I was like, what are you doing?
00:27:31
Speaker
Yeah, and I thought, has Robert been doing research into places where he can secretly see Kev, like ah unheard of places in the village where nobody will spot them? Because this was before before it was like known that they were together. Well, I think the seating is outside um what used to be the post office. Is that the cafe now? Maybe it's the cafe. So maybe it is all connected.
00:27:53
Speaker
i did notice they had little table menus on which would just... different wordless pictures of coffee from different angles. i say It's just like, we've popped this here just so you remember this is a cafe.
00:28:07
Speaker
I do think like quite often about how hard it would be if you're one of the, I think, surprisingly large number of people in this country who don't know how to read because maybe and maybe it's just an accessible menu you know take it and and be like i'd like one of these but like it's just different it's the same cup of coffee in different levels i want this i want a coffee from this angle yeah please i don't care what it tastes like i just want to be able to see it from that particular angle um Yeah, I didn't spot the menus. One menu that I did spot was when they're in the wool pack and he wanted to order a pie.
00:28:43
Speaker
and I kid you not, steak and mushroom pie was only £6.95. Was that with trimmings? Well, I presume so. i was in a pub with my parents at the weekend. Pie, mash, gravy, it was like £17.95. I was going say, you're not getting... I mean, £15 would be very cheap round my way.
00:29:00
Speaker
yeah I mean, Yorkshire, I would say like the £17.95 was quite expensive and it wasn't in Yorkshire. um but i would think you'd be paying at least 15. wow yeah it does remind me this is the tangent of the time that i went to a very fancy pub in london to order a pie which cost like 20 quid and this is going back 10 years and i it was called like winter vegetable or something i'm famously vegetarian and i said does i have parsnips in because i hate parsnips and the lady brought out a pie with the lid off i was like oh we buy them in do
00:29:33
Speaker
does this have fast notes in? I'm like, you're just showing me a pie of cubed vegetables. I think i don't know how you want to identify this. And also, assumed you were making the pie for this advice. And also, if you are buying them in surely there's a list of ingredients somewhere.
00:29:45
Speaker
You would have thought. Like, that's, yeah. If you're going to treat yourself to a nice meal, you also expect it to be a little bit better service than just like, you want glance at what you're about to eat and tell me if you think you're listening? Yeah, detritus of your frozen main meal that going to pop in the microwave. Yeah.
00:30:01
Speaker
That was awful. I did not get that pie. I'm really glad to hear that. So I have gone off Kev a bit, partly because of the incredibly erratic way he is playing that character. Like, I wish he'd just stopped twitching so much, if I'm honest. is Yeah, I think he's trying to do the whole, like, nervous energy that could erupt into anything. But it is indeed making me quite nervous.
00:30:25
Speaker
And I think it would play well on, like, a stage. But, like, where it's on TV, you need to, like, dial it back. um just my my my top tips but the time i did like him is that he quoted lp hartley and turns out he's big reader so what did he do i don't i think that passed me by he quoted um the past as a foreign country they do things differently there which is the opening line of the go-between lovely yeah you know so great i love the go-between this is that this podcast is fully behind lp hartley ah and i'm not I'm not afraid to say that.
00:30:57
Speaker
post It's lovely to see you claiming these things so boldly these days. the Look, I know some of our listeners are going to find this controversial, but I like to go between it.
00:31:09
Speaker
But um yes, sir he spent a lot of time in prison reading whilst he wasn't 24-7 having sex with Robert, which seems to be... They refer to they referred to this week to when they were had more privacy in prison.
00:31:20
Speaker
yeah i didn't I've not been to prison personally, but my understanding wasn't it wasn't a lot of privacy. Yeah, I just, I really feel uncomfortable whenever they're together because I just feel like I can see that Robert is like, oh, wow, what's about to happen? Kev can think about nothing but going to bed with Robert.
00:31:42
Speaker
And it's just, it's a really tough watch. And he's like, I'm very angry because I haven't had sex for a few days. was like, what were you doing in prison after Robert got out? And when you're in different cells, have you been sleeping with Robert Mark It's quite tough. Something I did like is Claudette, because we said Claudette is definitely not going to take to him. And she really has taken to him. And I think that's quite sweet.
00:32:05
Speaker
Yeah, I'm glad they went that direction. oh it is classic Claudette. The university like is someone totally unhinged. I also, say I wrote down the conversation when um when it had come out that Robert and Kev were together, the next time Claudette sees them, she's what's this about you two being married? And then almost in the same breath, I'm making chicken casserole for tea. Like, truly could not care less. Yeah, she's got more important things on her mind.
00:32:36
Speaker
Just like, cool, on to the real talk. I'm making chicken casserole. Yeah, it's chicken cass this evening. And like, you know, Kevin's been eating prison food for 20 years, whatever it is. He will eat whatever he's given. take anything.
00:32:49
Speaker
I wonder whether this is the beginning of a friendship with Ross, do you think? After the whole, like, Mac has messed them both around. Yeah, I was quite proud of Kev for his little, like, kind turning calming down. That was quite sweet.
00:33:03
Speaker
Yeah, but it also annoyed me because then everybody in the Woolpack was going to be like, oh, wow, he's actually quite a decent guy and we like him. But he has literally just threatened to kill both Aaron and Mac. No, we don't love that.
00:33:15
Speaker
I don't love that at all. Even if he makes a mini lemon drizzle. Yeah, it was quite sweet to see him in in a little pinny. Yes. Almost as sweet as being um seeing Ross in Gabby's bathroom. Oh, I love, this is something I did love for the past two weeks, that new household of Vinnie, Ross and Lewis. Yes, I'm here for it. And you know I love an adult house share.
00:33:41
Speaker
It is my life. So it was lovely to see it playing out. Yeah, and we've already had at least three I wrote down excellent nicknames from Ross to Vinny. Well, Goggles, not the best one, that's sort of discriminating, but Vinestrone, love it. Vin Petrol, very good. Vin Petrol really got me, I like that lot.
00:34:01
Speaker
It turns out Ross loves Little Mix, so that's a nice touch. And I mean, why would he not?
House-share Dynamics and Friendships
00:34:06
Speaker
um yeah that household has brought me a lot of joy i fear that they're just setting up for Vinnie and Lewis to have a thing which would be really gutting because I want people to just have friendships for the sake of friendships they don't always have to go somewhere um but yeah I I did find it quite harsh when it was first of all like about to happen like at end of Finney's marriage, beginning of moving in and Ross was like, yeah, well, you were always punching with Gabby and then Aaron was like, just agreed with him and I literally, I wrote that to him, he's like Ross. Like, reign it in
00:34:43
Speaker
Yeah, and Ross is a strange mix of sometimes very nice and sometimes just really horrible for no reason. Yeah, and obviously the marriage was never going to last but you can at least wait sort of three weeks before you say that.
00:34:55
Speaker
Yeah, and the reason it fell apart wasn't because Gabby was too attractive for him. Like she's a very beautiful young woman, but you know, it's not, that wasn't, that was like the least their issues. Yeah. I did think it was quite interesting how like one moment,
00:35:10
Speaker
she was like, we need to work on our trust issues. And then the next moment she saw that she had trust issues and was like, I don't want to work on them after all. And I wrote down something. I saw on Reddit someone called El Paso MK. So I presume they're from Milton Keynes.
00:35:26
Speaker
Maybe it's scene. Maybe. um Wrote, how do I claim for the whiplash that I got from watching ga the Gabby and Vinny storyline? It was so, couldn't believe it was so sudden. I know. And they were having the sort of conversation about their marriage that people would normally have, I assume, after maybe 20 years of marriage. Yeah. And they just like, we need to go back to the trust we had. It's like, when? When was that trust? When did you have time to establish trust out of interest?
00:35:51
Speaker
And I wrote it down as well, Vinny said, it's just that marriage is tough and you've got to work at it. And Gabby said, that's what people in dysfunctional relationships say. I was like, no, it's not.
00:36:02
Speaker
Yeah. the reason that your marriage has failed is because you didn't realize you would have to work at it it didn't cross their minds bless them but I also wrote down I can't imagine anyone caring like surely there are no like Gabby Vinny stans who are just like desperate for this relationship to work oh know yeah we I mean we said weeks ago it's obviously going to end we didn't even think that they would get married so no and I'm not sure they should have done really in terms of plot not let alone their own life because I can understand why they get them married if it was then going to be like six months later they broke up.
00:36:34
Speaker
what was the point of getting them married and then just you know having a conversation they should have had just before they got married? Yeah, I think the saddest thing really is that the reason um that Vinny was so scared to think about his sexuality and covered up the horrible attack from Mike for so long was that he was scared to lose what he had with Gabby. And like if he was going to lose that anyway, he could have just like had a much easier time and done like and not been blackmailed. and Yeah.
00:37:09
Speaker
yeah All the nastiness. Yeah, it was all waste a waste of time, really, wasn't it? But do I do wonder if it links to this sudden breaking up of Cammy and Belle that we saw. like Are we going to see Gabby and Cammy? Is that going to be a thing?
00:37:24
Speaker
Maybe. I don't know. Yeah, it could potentially be. I mean, that'd be quite tricky for Vinny, but... Yeah. I guess that could be the whole story. Like, two people he's sort of in with getting together.
00:37:36
Speaker
And i did one I don't want that because I don't think... I don't really like the Gabby. I'm just thinking about it. The Gabby can be dynamic as a no from me, I think. Yeah, I think it would be tricky. And I mean, maybe the reason that the last two weeks Emidal has been so bleak is that we haven't seen Cammy. And normally he is the only light in a very dark place. so He truly is. Where is he? We need that. We need that light. We need Cammy and we need Lydia. Where the heck are they? all we ask. You can take some of the screen time that you're currently devoting to April, Ray, Dylan, Celia.
00:38:08
Speaker
Give it to them. It's literally all I want. Yeah. ah We did have in the most recent episode one of my favorite things to happen in or out of soaps.
00:38:19
Speaker
An authentic apology. So I thought Mac and Ross really unnecessarily equal to each other. It did seem a bit out of character for Mac. Yeah. To say like your son is embarrassed by you, he hates you and stuff, which wasn't true. That weird. And we'll give him like a bit of leeway on account of having been trapped in a bunker for a while and doesn't seem to have taken any steps to address the inevitable trauma from that.
00:38:42
Speaker
But at the same time, why is he mean? And Ross's face in that scene. No, I just, I do really feel for Ross. I feel like, I mean, everybody in Emmerdale has unprocessed trauma. That's the whole point. justice so um But I do feel like Ross is quite misunderstood because he can be really kind, really sensitive.
00:39:00
Speaker
um But people just sort of like, pounce on him but then yeah also also max been through a lot and i don't know they were just very mean to each other but not anymore and it's quite interesting seeing charity squirm a bit and be like you guys can't be friends like this i don't want you being enemies but i also think if you're going to be friends you might talk and yeah yeah and i would like i mean i just i want everyone to be friends really but um i love i love a friendship we i'm just We've talked about this. There just aren't enough friendships yeah in Emmerdale. And that is something they used to do much better, I think. So maybe they're trying to address that. Maybe they have heard our cry.
00:39:39
Speaker
Maybe, yeah. Specifically ours. I wrote down maybe Mac and Ross could be our friends that we want to see. I think that this pregnancy thing will come out, surely.
00:39:50
Speaker
and I was wondering, because Sarah was obsessed with the 12-week scan. And surely that would be like now. Ish. That's true.
00:40:01
Speaker
And I wonder whether they'll go for the 12-week scan and then they'll be like, this baby is not 12 weeks old This baby is Scouse. who He seems to be a burns victim. who um If they'll be like, oh, this doesn't line up with when the egg was like inserted or whatever you call it.
00:40:21
Speaker
And then they'll be like, it must not be the IVF baby. And presumably Jacob will able to identify that even if he's not old. by looking at the scan. Yeah, maybe. I don't really know.
00:40:32
Speaker
don't really get a sense of how good Jacob is or is not at being a doctor. He definitely seems to be medically negligent at times. Yeah, yeah, That's more about sort of like processes than knowledge.
00:40:47
Speaker
And that is a straight step to getting part of the surgery in the village where um truly like none of them have ever done anything legal or acceptable. Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
00:40:59
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's actually counted against you if you've taken the Hippocratic Oath. Yeah, that's a real stumbling block. Oh, I want to see more of Manpreet. She would also have had some fun. Yeah, she was in it briefly, wasn't she, when Claudette was like, can you be discreet when you give Kev a check-up or something? Oh, yeah.
00:41:15
Speaker
But other than that... Yeah, and Billy. I mean, all these people that we talk about that have disappeared. and i I really wanted the Billy Manpreet romance. and said We asked for a Billy Manpreet romance, and what we get is a Jay Carey romance.
00:41:27
Speaker
know I know. And actually, yeah, the Billy Manpreet romance did nearly happen a while ago and then obviously didn't. But, you know, neither of them are around. Maybe they're just having a romance off screen. Like, you don't need to always see what's happening. They're just having a very uncomplicated, lovely time. Yeah, so true. It's totally not toxic.
00:41:45
Speaker
I was thinking I quite like Cammie to be have like a sort of cougar relationship with someone, but maybe Manpreet is too cougar. don't know. could see it. Who would you put him with? Do you think we might have to be a new character?
00:41:57
Speaker
I think no I said no on lids. I mean, Layla would have been wonderful. have been great. Oh, my God. can really see that. Yeah. R.I.P. Maybe she's still alive. I don't know how, but maybe she is. I don't think she is. She could be, though.
00:42:15
Speaker
Layla's identical twin sister, also called Layla, with exactly the same traits. Yeah. No, I think it's not to be. Because, I mean, I do i definitely don't want Cami and Laurel. That sounds horrible. Yeah, that sounds tricky at best. Yeah.
00:42:28
Speaker
There's not many people left, they all died in the limo. They did, they did love to kill off women of a certain age in that limb. But something, I mean, they did seem pretty final on the whole bell front, but I think maybe they could reopen it.
00:42:42
Speaker
yeah I don't know. I wonder if they had to just like reshuffle who was on screen for a bit. like maybe Maybe somebody is ill, they've had to reshuffle the order in which things happened. So they've like pressed pause on Cammie and Belle, they've killed the Carl Clemmie thing, they killed Vinny and Gabby, and now it ah't know they're just like changing things around. it just ah There's a lot of weirdness, it feels.
00:43:08
Speaker
Yeah. mean, when are we getting Steph back? She must be back for too long. I feel like she only just left and she's on maternity, so it'll be like a year. feel like it'll be like six months. Has it not been that long?
00:43:21
Speaker
I think it was ah since we started the podcast and that was in like May. That's a good point. so And obviously we love Ross and Steph. I feel like Ross is probably going to be dating someone when she comes back so that there is that sort of like obstacle to get past. The trickiness.
00:43:38
Speaker
Yeah, she'll presumably have like a prison husband. That's what with. That seems to what happens. Maybe Ross will be back with um Charity. Ooh, maybe.
00:43:49
Speaker
Dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun. Gosh, what a lot going on. What a lot going on. Do you have stray highlights? Not really. that was kind That's kind of all from me I... um Yeah, let me double check my notes. I went paper notes this time, as you can see. I did what you do, I think, and put it on my phone and then copied it across.
00:44:12
Speaker
Nice. um Yeah, I don't really think I have anything Oh, wait, I too We had another fantastic line from Vic. Okay. Which was to Robert.
00:44:23
Speaker
You need to tell your boyfriend about your terminally ill husband before he moves in with the vicar. It's just so good. the best thing about a story and it's not even close and I did wonder whether the script writers are using Vic to sort communicate with the the plot team to point out like you're making us write some really stupid things right now I think they just realized that she lives them so well and I have one of my notes that we did wrote down is that Vic has nothing at all going on in her life so she's she's ready like all day every day to comment on this story don't know when she last saw her child
00:45:00
Speaker
I don't know if, yeah, if that child is even still alive. Probably not. I assume it's slurried. That's so dark. but ah We wish him well, obviously.
00:45:12
Speaker
Actually, I'd be quite up for a Vic-Cami relationship. Yes! I mean, that you would love that because you love both them. My two faves. But we also know that Vic slash Isabel Hodgins is going on potentially at some point.
00:45:29
Speaker
Yeah, true. So presumably she's got to commit some sort of crime. Yeah, I wonder how they're going work that in. Will she, like, in self-defence or something, end up killing Kev if Kev goes for her or as collateral? I don't know. Oh, maybe or maybe. I mean, she she can kill Celia. I can't think why she would, but it'd be lovely if she did.
00:45:48
Speaker
i could see it happening. The only other two notes I wrote down was Aaron is so good at playing drunk. He really does it well. That's so true.
00:46:00
Speaker
And we've seen it a few times over the years. He's done like happy drunk. He's done like sort of annoying drunk because he wasn't this one. He's done like sad drunk. um I did think he was sort of off the off the old drink, but I guess he's not anymore.
Performance Praises and Fan Interactions
00:46:13
Speaker
Actually, it's really interesting the way that Danny Miller has been playing this whole story. And he's done it in quite a subdued way, which is, I think, a really interesting choice. It is, I think, working quite well. But, you know, when he finds out about Robert being married or when he's like telling Robert doesn't want to see him again, he's doing it.
00:46:29
Speaker
I guess it's that sort of like shock that he want to show it. And it's, it's not the yelling and screaming. It's not the crying. um It's barely even registering, but, but not only like the way that things barely register on Carl's face because he is immobile, but actually, actually an acting choice, i think. What do you, what do you make of it?
00:46:51
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. It feels like it's, um, he's He's not sort of like rising to it in a way. And I wonder if it's like a self-defense thing of like he's just so done in with so many years of Robert and of reacting to what Robert does and his life being like so controlled by what Robert thinks of him that now he's just a bit like...
00:47:15
Speaker
I'm sure, like, I am affected by this, but I'm not going to let it control me anymore. and Because I think he he obviously is still emotionally affected by it and still made, I think, a fairly unreasonable ah request, which was...
00:47:29
Speaker
for Robert to break up with Kev having just had a heart attack while in the hospital. Like, obviously that wasn't going to happen. And so, like, he is still in love with Robert and he still wants Robert to, like, prove himself to to him.
00:47:46
Speaker
But, the you like you said, he's just sort of, like, flatlining it through it. And I'd like, I know Mac was there for him a bit, but I wish Mac had actually been there to,
00:47:58
Speaker
to come for him and talk her through rather than come up some complex plot to get Ross and Kev to fight each other. Everyone loves like not really processing things by talking about them, but instead creating an intricate web of lies and deceit.
00:48:14
Speaker
Yeah. It's like i I could listen or I could ploy I'm going ploy. Yeah. I think I don't have enough friends that do the sort of ploy side of stuff.
00:48:25
Speaker
Yeah, have more ployers. Although i guess if it's anything like Emmerdale, they so seldom work that maybe I just wouldn't have noticed. Yeah, that's true. I also have almost never inadvertently got married in prison.
00:48:39
Speaker
Yeah, only sort once or twice for me as well. so yeah Yeah, <unk>s not it's not a go-to for us. My final note before we get on to our random character was just I love Mary's costume. She looked great as Harley Quinn.
00:48:53
Speaker
Yeah, she looked fantastic. I i loved the colours, I loved the hair, more of that. Yeah. It could be an alter ego that she brings out more often. That's true, I wanted to i wanted to do more and if if it has to be deluding herself that she is a superhero then so and sure. It's a story that hasn't been told and it's important.
00:49:13
Speaker
Yep, may we have more of that lord. More lord, more lord. Right, okay, so our random character we're going to talk about is Rebecca Bakes, who plays Angelica King. Who's on a cruise with Brenda?
00:49:32
Speaker
She's on a cruise with Brenda. we haven't seen her in a long time. Brenda has decided to stay in Canada, so I think, did Angelica come home? Did we see her, like, once?
00:49:43
Speaker
ah Angelica, like, got out of prison, and then she was back for break. matter of weeks i think and then left again well she went on the cruise and then she came back and i think there was one scene wasn't there where she was maybe there wasn't even that but she can't i mean if brenda's staying in canada she can't just have left her on a cruise on her own just to like go around the globe yeah that's so true yeah i hadn't thought that i don't know how old is angelica meant to be great question i feel like what were they doing gtse's maybe Maybe like 6, 17 now or something?
00:50:14
Speaker
don't know, because they do, M&L do start um paying their actors a good amount of money once they turn 16. that's probably why we're not seeing her very much. So I think that's probably why she's off.
00:50:30
Speaker
And look, she with we don't dislike her in any way, of course, but she is um she's not she's not in the same level as April in terms of the acting, let's say. Yeah, I don't think I've really seen much from her since I started watching because she was in prison so much. Yeah, she does through that. then she got out.
00:50:51
Speaker
But yeah, I'm not feeling a huge lack. Okay, she was born in 2009, so she is 16, apparently. There we go. um And apparently has played the character since she was three months old.
00:51:06
Speaker
Wow. Wow. That would be quite gutting if they yeah sort of act to your character ah that point. Yeah, I mean, as we talked about before, they do do this a lot where they just keep the child actors into adult and hope for the best. And you get people like Gabby and Belle and April who turn out to be good actors. And then you get others who for whom being there their entire lives is not enough.
00:51:32
Speaker
It would be such a lovely like community to be part of, though, wouldn't it? like I mean, maybe it be maybe it's horrible. And we have idealised visions of what it's like to be part of the team. It seems like it'd be like just an extended family and all these people who've seen you grow up. and must be hard if there are people who are extended family who then leave, like if your parents leave or something.
00:51:55
Speaker
Yeah, that's true. And actually didn't, um who was it that um left, what was her name? The one that um briefly went out with Tom King. Oh yeah, what's her name? yeah She left and was just like doing a lot of press interviews about how she didn't even know it coming and it was really awful. And I was like, are you allowed to say this?
00:52:16
Speaker
And now I think she runs a yoga studio now, which seems to be the they go. In a bit leads not far from me. And I thought maybe I should sign up. Do you need to do a little venture? and think it's reformer Pilates there, which I find terrifying because the machines look really scary.
00:52:29
Speaker
Reformer? It's where you're doing Pilates on a reformer machine, which is a series of sort of like belts and resistance springs and ropes and things. Oh, good lord. It means you can vary the resistance more. So you can make it harder, but you can also make it easier. So.
00:52:45
Speaker
you know i mean yoga is already pretty hard it's pilates and parties i don't really know what pilates so i think it's quite similar to yoga it's more sort of like um positions although actually that's kind of what yoga is i guess we don't need to explain it yeah someone does not i have done yoga in my time but i've done pilates let alone reformer pilates which now i can see why you wouldn't want to do that um But I was going to ask you, actually, maybe have i have I already asked you this on the podcast? Which cast members, if you saw them out and about in the wild, as you seem to do, would you go up to and be like and talk to, if any?
00:53:29
Speaker
Oh, ah I would talk to Ned Porteous and I would have done if he wasn't recording a voice note when he walked past me. I would have been like, hi.
00:53:42
Speaker
I would talk to Olivia Bromley because I've spoken to her on multiple occasions before, so I feel like... I guess I'm being more in a sort of like, I love Emmerdale sort of way, rather than playing it Who would I? I mean, who wouldn't I?
00:53:58
Speaker
Well, those two, it seems. so because you've you i yeah I think I would maybe find it scarier to go up to someone like... um Like the actor who plays Eric Pollard, maybe. I feel like he would just be a bit like, leave me alone.
00:54:14
Speaker
yeah I think I'd be nervous about doing it to almost any of them just because I feel like they don't want to chat in their time off. Although I feel like Lisa Riley would love it. ah Yeah, i think I would feel most confident going up to Lisa Riley because I think would just be all over it.
00:54:27
Speaker
yeah um I think I would probably be a bit too scared to talk to most of the ones who are like my age because they're probably just trying to go about their day. um Obviously, I'd be terrified to talk to Jeff Hoardley because think he's real sweetheart in real life. but yeah um Yeah, I think I would be scared to but still do it.
00:54:49
Speaker
Okay. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I've really changed my tune. I think at the first I was like, obviously I talk to any of them, but now the more I think about it, the more I'm like, I think I'd be scared to talk to any of them.
00:55:00
Speaker
Yeah, I think any of the ones who are like cool or attractive, not to say Lisa Riley isn't, of course, but you know, like the young, cool, attractive ones, I'd be like, I can't talk to cool, attractive people, except for you, Lizzie.
00:55:11
Speaker
Wow. In any way, because it just terrifies me, let alone ones who are on TV, but maybe... You're like middle-aged up and the children.
00:55:22
Speaker
as i can Well, I saw the actor who plays April recently, but I decided not to talk to her because I thought you are a child. You're minor. yeah It's not a good look.
00:55:34
Speaker
And you're literally with your parents watching a performance of 9 to 5 the musical. you So I don't know if I'm going to be like, hi, I love you. Here's my podcast. Let me just play it and fall during the interval.
00:55:46
Speaker
ah Yeah, I do think it'd be tricky with any of the ones that we are well documented not liking. That could be weird. What, just Jay? I mean, I don't have a problem with the actor who plays Jay. He's great, but um he does seem quite fun in interviews, actually. But I think just went to someone and said, I love Emmerdale and your character is not a good part it. Your character's horrible.
00:56:06
Speaker
Obviously, if I were to stumble across Victoria or Cammy... Whilst they are young and attractive, I think I love them so much that I would best, I'd i get through that and I'd be like, you're my hero character. I'd say i'd say you're my hero character to either of them and hope they don't compare notes.
00:56:20
Speaker
But yeah, I think Victoria is actually my hero character, but I'd say it to Cammie as well. Yeah, i am I'd really love to meet more of the cast. I think they all just seem lovely.
00:56:32
Speaker
Yeah, you just need to loiter outside the studios more, I guess. I don't want to be one of the people that loiter's outside the studios. You see them with sort of camping chairs around 5pm waiting for the TV. Look, we're not better than them, let's just think we are.
00:56:44
Speaker
I'm not better than them at all. I just don't want to be numbered with them.
00:56:51
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Yeah, we are we are we are um obsessed and sad in in a better way. but That is yeah it's quite Damien Diamond, how I see myself.
00:57:03
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Anyway, thanks so much for listening, everyone. We're better than you, but thanks for coming in. No, if you're listening to this, you're one of us. You're not one of the camping chair crew. No, I do actually respect the hustle of the camping chair crew because I i think it takes ah takes a lot to do that. It takes a village.
00:57:21
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It takes a village to sit on a camping chair. and ah I want to call the episode that, but doesn't make any sense. Sorry, go ahead. We haven't done the farming content. Oh my gosh, we almost left without farming content. And actually there was something and I was quite proud of myself because Robert used um the excuse to not see Kev. He was like, we have to like tag and dehorn the calves.
00:57:44
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And in my mind I was like, you should have done that ages ago. and then ah it came out that he wasn't doing that because um someone said to Kev, Victoria was like, yeah, we did that ages ago. And I was like, I knew that.
00:57:57
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Well done. I'd never heard of tagging and dehorning. where I guess I've seen tags, but i didn't know they'd dehorn them. Well, yeah, I mean, I only knew because i live with someone who works on a farm. Yeah. Yeah, well done you. Because, yes, it does seem like farming has been used as an excuse by both Celia and Robert incessantly to get out of conversations, but no actual farming taking place.
00:58:17
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The animals on those farms are dying, but it's lovely that they're dying whilst being used as an excuse. Yeah. Yeah, and we mustn't forget that Robert's main farming activity is just standing in a field. And moving sacks around. Moving sacks around, ah which doesn't feel like it could be like a late night emergency.
00:58:36
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Emergency s sack moving. It happens. It happens, but not this week. It was a lie. was a lie. Do you get in touch at dinglealltheway.pod. I've decided to try not doing segues.
00:58:51
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Dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com. We're on Instagram, in fits and starts, at dingletheway.pod. Some fits and some starts. Yeah, a couple of fits um recently, but mainly main lead the non-starts.
00:59:05
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Yeah. um But go follow us nonetheless if you want to occasionally have a little burst of stuff. We love hearing from you. We'd love to know and he any segments you'd like us to do it or anything, really.
00:59:19
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um appreciate to the person who left a review recently. or a comment about how much they appreciated eyedrop chat. was like, thank you. That's that's what we're here for. It's our main MO really is just eyedrop awareness. Eyedrop awareness.
00:59:34
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And Emmerdale haven't actually got in touch with me becoming their menopause champion. Which is a shame. Yeah, I see that they're redrafting the email as we speak.
00:59:46
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Yeah, I think the letter's in the post. Maybe you'll arrive in time for your birthday. Yeah, by the next time you record, I will be 40 years old. Oh, that's actually huge. No offense. Absolutely fine. I appreciate you highlighting it.
01:00:00
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and So I have referred to myself as being 40 twice on this podcast, i think, but in fact, I am still in my 30s. You're just easing yourself into that mindset. Yeah. Yeah, has to happen. Right, then bye everyone, I guess.