Introduction and Episode Setup
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Hello and welcome to Dingle All The Way. I'm Simon. And I'm Lizzie. And we are going to cover the last fortnight in the World of Emmerdale. We're particularly welcome if you came to us via the Conversation Street Corridor crossover. Lovely to have you with us. What a fun time.
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Yeah, absolutely. And i mean, I'm sure that whatever we say now will be a disappointment compared to what you're used to with the Conversation Street podcast. We enjoy recording this and it seems that people enjoy listening to it as well for some reason. So thanks for being here.
00:00:31
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And my goodness, what an action-packed... Well, I was going to say action-packed Fortnite. It's really an
Debating Recent Events or Past Week
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action-packed week. but um yeah I have very scant notes on what happened before this week. but Curiously, I've written more about that and I don't know why. because nothing I think the movie was almost too transfixed by the actual action in the past week. I'd be really pleased to hear what you did have to say because I have forgotten basically everything that's happened other than like Charity still refusing to tell Mac that she's pregnant with Ross's baby. Yeah.
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I mean, that well what do want to do? Do i want to go through the the boring week before we get to the exciting week or do the exciting week first? um Should we do the boring week first? That's what the listeners want, I think. just Well, I don't know. do we Do we go chronological? Oh, wait, yeah. Chronological is the flashback. Let's do the flashback first.
00:01:19
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Let's do that first. So basically, over the week, each episode started with Jay. I got quite sick of seeing that scene over and over again of Jay being like, I know I didn't do it. Yeah, the main thing I wrote down was that it's just going to really nice to never have to hear Jay again saying, I've got no idea how Ray's body ended up in the back of that van.
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it is quite tiring, isn't it? Yeah, it was an awful, like repetition is is hard, isn't it? It is hard. And then then we had an episode, I guess, per, I thought it was to be more like per um suspect, but they were a bit more intermingled than that. And then we went through person by person who might have killed Ray until in classic soap style, it turned out to be none of the above. Yeah, I did think like, I'm not sure how any of these storylines are going to culminate in one of these people actually killing Ray.
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um and it didn't. So i guess it was fair. And I was thinking, i feel
Laurel's Confrontation with Arthur
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like Bear isn't actually dead because we don't trust Ray and Celia. um and we never really saw a dead body. We just saw a body that looked to asleep and indeed was asleep. um So there we go So we start off with an episode centered around Laurel and we still don't see Dylan telling things to Laurel. thought, we'll flash out week. We'll finally get to see Laurel learning that the guy she's dating is evil. That's so true. We didn't. Still know.
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and I quite liked that her first thought was to go screaming in Arthur's face about whether or not he was drug dealing. Because I guess that would be your, ah like, oh, is he also involved in this? Yeah, maybe. and I have read, like, mixed things online about... Which surprised me, because I thought that look the clear sort of standpoint that we have is that,
Graham's Return and Plot Confusion
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like, Laura was very, very concerned for Arthur.
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rightly and then things got out of hand and he got quite rude and she unfortunately slapped him on the face and I was like oh that's such a an example of like how things can get out of hand and then people do really awful things and then online I saw a load stuff on Facebook of people just being a bit like well Arthur deserved that slap it's like oh although I don't think he did actually i think that Laurel feels really bad about that and that actually she should Yeah, I'm quite big on like no one ever deserves violence from anyone. that's yeah very much where I'm at as well. But particularly a child from a parent. and yeah he's He's still a minor, isn't he? Is he 17? Yeah, I think he's 17. I was quite confused about how um his right cheek ended up having graze on it from her ring because it looked like she...
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hit him with her right hand but don't you wear your rings on your left hand although i guess maybe it's not a wedding ring given that she is not married like a imagine just trying to hit someone with your left hand and get their right cheek i mean as someone who's right-handed it's quite hard i can't really picture hitting someone with my left hand anyway true who she must be wearing the ring on the wrong hand maybe you move it over when you've got divorced, but you like the bling. You're like, I want to keep this nice engagement ring.
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ah Great, great, great, all great insightful points. And I had thought it was going to be Arthur. He was the murderer until the first episode lent so heavily into suggesting he might be. it's like, okay, they wouldn't lay the clues this early on. That's true.
00:04:38
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One of any number of people to start screaming at Ray in public. I did think about the people who aren't involved in the storyline. Like, don't know, say like Sarah just, wheelbarrowing vitamins around the village and excuse me these all of this going on under our nose who she hasn't got a clue Yeah, I thought about like just how much of it happened in complete broad daylight. Either arguments, fights, people being bundled into the village hall, in the end, Rey's body being put into a van, all happened in broad daylight. Surely someone else from this village who is always walking around doing nothing would have seen it. Or like, is there no
Questioning Believability of Storylines
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CCTV in this place? Does no one have a ring doorbell? I know we've said that before. They need
00:05:19
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What is going on there? Why isn't Jimmy on the WhatsApp group being like, guys? What's happening here? I've heard any number of accusations against Ray. And I do think we might be going through a sort of everyone's done it, um Agatha Christie style a thing at one point. Well, everyone's colluded in one way or another, a bit like with Anthony. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But even even further afield. But no, I do wish like ruby could see like ominous...
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scenes without them being essentially pitch black because it was a bit like Corrie Dale again I was like there's so many like heavy grey filters on this to tell me how to feel that I'm in a sensory deprivation tank essentially yeah it was very dark grey and there were a lot of sort of like looming noises going on that i was a bit like what was happening um yeah yeah I've lost count as well as how many times we've seen Jay's introductory monologue with a random and group of people who happen to be walking past um we've seen Ray bent over Celia's body a lot of times and of course the one thing I can't stop seeing is that her shoulder is moving in one of the close-ups I'm like she's clearly still breathing and I don't know whether that's a production error or whether it's that she's not actually dead oh gosh I really can't cope with another body better from the dead like will some dead people just stay dead like is that I recognize speaking as a Christian that is hypocritical
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Jesus is always an exception. We only need one exception, okay? And that is our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen, amen, amen. And sadly, our Lord and Savior is not Graham. so like like I'm certain on that one.
Character Dynamics and Classic Reminiscence
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um we talked a bit about in the Crosshair episode about he's coming back, he's apparently a fan favorite, or I can't imagine why. And you're totally new to him. I didn't see much of him.
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And we had to sit through an episode that was entirely very unconvincing exposition about why, despite the fact that he had been killed in multiple ways on camera, he was actually thriving.
00:07:24
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Yeah, i I feel like you had some experience of Graham right from watching in the past. I've come to Graham completely fresh. he's He's a very boring man and it's a shame that he's so boring. but So boring. The internet is alive with people who are in love with him and they're so pleased he's back.
00:07:46
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And it's, I mean, maybe he did become really interesting in those years I missed and his episode back is just a facade. Or maybe it's just a cry for help with people who need therapy. i think maybe. And it all seems very fanciful. I think my favourite bit was when he said in a sort of like very low gravelly tone, like, well, with all my training, I've become very good at lying very still.
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yeah And that's like his main skill is like he can lie really still. You need give tips to Celia, clearly. but Yeah, so true. But yeah, it all seems very fanciful. And I think people people who love Graham are turning a blind eye to the fact that this resurrection slash never quite dead storyline is so ridiculous because they're just pleased have him back. Whereas we're like, I don't really care either way. And this is so dumb.
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Yeah, I did write down, re his tone of voice, that he delivers every line like it's the unsexy part of an erotic audiobook. He's just doing like the getting between scenes sections. So true, he does have like, yeah, he has an erotic audiobook voice, but all he's saying is like, I was lying in a morgue.
00:08:56
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um and because we don't really know the stories that went on it was quite it was quite like overwhelming to have her and just drop them all on us he's like I did this to protect you and she's she's like well um my ex-husband almost raped me again Vanessa and Johnny were apparently kidnapped for weeks like Marlon went to prison all these things and it's like yeah what exactly then he told some story about how he was too drunk to know what happened or something but yeah was on a boat i didn't i didn't know but it was all very confusing there was a lot going on and like who is johnny johnny is vanessa's son is he still alive yeah he's just it's just i don't think maybe he should have been our most invisible child in the awards because i'm not sure we've ever seen him yeah i literally literally don't think i've ever set eyes on or indeed heard of the child
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and she keeps talking about him like playing upstairs whatever when she does mention him but i think he must be nigh on a teenager at this point and where was he when she was drunk for the whole month of december that's true but presumably with claudette just under the counter at the doctors as a 12 year old or whatever he is how old is johnny what's her surname i can't remember How old is Johnny? and this is This is investigative journalism right here. this is Johnny Woodfield. He's approximately 10, okay.
Flashback Episodes and Story Gaps
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i guess he'll still play upstairs, age 10. ah Yeah, i I mean, like any classic soap, this is a one-episode explanation about Graham, and and immediately you'll never think about it again, i guess.
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Is he just back now, do you think? Well, it seems that way, I'm sorry to say. Okay, well, maybe we'll warm up to him. And I did think, I know we talk about chemistry a lot, I did think that he and Rona did have chemistry and Marlon is very, very annoying and is always just like, hit up into a frenzy whereas he just like, you know, remembers how she likes her tea and is a bit like, I don't know.
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So I can see that that might end up being a ah thing, which is difficult. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I quite like the sort of stability of marina's staying married to one person for a while ah but i still miss rona and um paddy together they were they're a good couple of my eyes yeah i can see that also have we ever seen this kind of secret extra room at marlon and rona's before you know how graham was like if you go in the front door graham was if you turn right whereas everything else happens in the kitchen and there's a lounge beyond it and you can tell it's not actually part of the physical building Because their house is like one of the few ones where they do actually film the scenes inside the building. And it looks like a real house. Whereas I think they just invented this extra bit so that Graham could hide in there, which was interesting. Yeah, I feel like, i mean, I've only seen the doorway. I can't right now picture any scenes in it, but yeah.
00:11:45
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Yeah, I don't really know. was looking at my notes, and this is must have been for the previous week. I've written Graham, PC,
Moira's Arrest and Motive Confusion
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Who Dares Wins. what What might that be about? Yeah. Were you asleep when you wrote that?
00:11:57
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Did a police officer say, who dares wins? Why would they have said that? No, let's let's just delete delete that comment. Yeah, I truly have no idea what you could possibly invent by that. Who dares wins like a TV show? I don't know. It's certainly a phrase I've heard, but I don't claim to know what it means. It's not certainly not connected any way with the episodes in question.
00:12:18
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I must have thought it was funny enough to write down, but maybe I was having a fever dream at the time. Whilst we're vaguely still talking about Graham, um i did quite enjoy seeing the inside of the village hall, which we don't get to see very much when he was being of Ray.
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oh I thought that was the church. Was that the village hall That was the village hall. Oh, right. I know. you don't you don't even recognise it because we don't get to see it. Yeah, well, what a treat for it. Well, that must be nice for Ray's final hours to have experienced the new set. Finally seen inside there. And then them I did wonder whether Joe Tate would have recognised Graham's voice when he was... Because he could clearly hear them when he was outside. That's what made him go back in.
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um And Graham does seem to have this sort of distinctive voice. Well, yes. But was he speaking or was he just sort of kicking him? I can't remember. think he said something. Yeah, I mean... joe's that's seen constantly to be seeing around corners but um i guess at some point he will fully believe it but they've obviously paid that police officer or whatever to pretend that graham's still alive you mean dad sorry he's still dead unless they're putting the wool over our eyes and its we have in fact misinterpreted the whole of the last week it's not beyond the realms of possibility
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Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, that that episode was really just to get Graham back and it didn't really feel like it particularly moved on the Who Killed Ray plot because I don't think anyone really believed that Graham had done it, did they? That would just be such a cop-out.
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Yeah. Yeah, it was quite a boring episode, I'm afraid. It was nice to have a bit more clarity on, like, who the heck Graham was, but I didn't didn't really get very far with it personally. No, we still got Jodie in the van. Oh, yeah, but I don't care about that.
00:14:07
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Let's hope we never hear her name second again. i really
Character Relationships and Developments
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hope not. And then was the next episode Marlon? It was, yeah. The only thing I remember from that is when he was like, I like that finally confided in Ross. And I guess Ross's position of guilt-tripping him was you know understandable. I liked that he instantly apologized. But it was in Marlon's little screamy thing about all the things he did ah to try and protect April that the thing, for some reason, he emphasized the most was, I sold my car! I know! I was like, mate, you could have gone lower than that. And he does appear to have quite a nice new car anyway. He's got a Dacia Duster.
00:14:43
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How know the names of cars? like what do It was written on it was written on the back of it. And I saw it and I was like, cool, you've got a car again. Sure.
00:14:54
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he also, like, surely was not going to get £20,000 for his old car. Yeah, there was a lot going on there. None of it I really cared for. um but I'm glad that Ross is finally in on the action they teamed up and it was lovely seeing that sort of coming. I just like when Ross helps people. me too. I love Ross. He is great.
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um Something that did puzzle me though was so Marlon has this big kitchen knife in his back pocket and he's going to over to Ray and then Ross finds him and is like, what are you up to?
00:15:31
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So at that point, Ross and Marlon watched Ray go into Laurel's house through the back door. he Just walked away. Like, fine. Yeah, no problem. Yeah, they were ah alarmingly okay with that, I suppose. Yeah, like, knowing what Marlon does about Ray now, they were just like, sure, that's fine.
00:15:52
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I guess maybe they don't. Do they know that Laurel knows at that point? getting lost maybe they think yeah i think so because marlon has just been watching laurel from a distance like say to ray like i never want to see you again get out that's true yeah that was into because yeah that's placed together how we actually saw her here in laurel's house because she didn't lock the door against the guy um and he really reminded me of john in terms of like what is it that villains suddenly just go mad when they're cornered and sort of just say like i do you want to move with me away with me i was like and and we can you know you can forgive me and this can all be fine it's like what when did you lose all rationale to think that she'd be like oh i have just been absolutely horrified by the discovery but yeah let's all just i'll pack up
00:16:36
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that's so trigger it's like the moment that they find out that you're completely unhinged is the moment that you're also like why don't you turn a blind eye to that so to the lake district sounds nice doesn't it pack up some of your children and yeah but that's also kind of what joe tate did with dawn that's true people are forever saying we should move away with some of your children yeah like why is everyone always a who it's like obviously you have to stay in the village where a soap opera is being made yeah
00:17:09
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yeah um because i mean the fact that laura was like i do love him was quite sweet i guess but sweet but ultimately very sad And then Nicola and Laurel had some sort of quite confusing
Critique of Recent Plots and Absurdity
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plan about getting a back and putting the police. for they I mean, what they really should know is that the police don't care. The police have had all this information for months. like if They're not interested. Yeah, they really don't care. i thought that the scenes with Laurel and Nicola were very good. Like, they're both, yeah, acting really well. And like and I really believed...
00:17:38
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how Laurel felt about her and believed her being like oh i might end up like falling for him again if I don't kick him out was like yeah I can see that yeah you probably will we have a little c sidebar on Laurel Your new pal. Oh my word, my best friend Laurel. um Yeah, so it was my birthday last weekend and Simon very kindly got a cameo video from Charlotte Bellamy who plays Laurel and it was so lovely and she's a lovely woman and she wished me a very happy birthday. And she gave us a little tidbit, she said about how the village at the moment is very, very cold and i was a bit like,
00:18:14
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It's not really insider information, given that I also live in Yorkshire. But I think she meant like... She wasn't to know that. She wasn't to know that. And also it does, in all the videos that I see from behind the scenes, it looks like it's very exposed, like very windy. And yeah, she said they were wearing like tons and tons of layers under their clothes. And I did wonder if she also meant like inside. Like it does look like the studio itself is kind of just a warehouse on the Kirkstall Road. So... That's true. guess it's very like, you know, obviously there's only...
00:18:41
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some walls and the other walls will be exposed to cameras and it might just be freezing being in those i was i don't know why threw me because it is obviously what they are but she was like we wear thermals under our costumes it's like yeah i suppose they are costumes they just look so ordinary clothes you just don't think of it i if i had them i'd save money just be like charlotte bellamy you almost certainly dress the same way that are on us in your spare time so just pop in your own cardi i could be wrong I think you could be wrong. i' Yeah, I don't really know. Especially like, I'm watching classic Emmerdale from like 2007 and Laurel's style was really bad then.
00:19:15
Speaker
She suddenly famously arrived dressed in a bee costume, but that's... Oh, that's different. Cool. The mention of like the police not caring reminds me, we will keep going with this week, but reminded me the previous week where the police officer had a go at Jay for not having reported ah van key going missing. i know that is the biggest waste of police like time in the world. If you're just like, I've lost my car keys.
00:19:38
Speaker
i know like when when people have really When people have reported to the police that they're part of like a sort of drug prostitution ring for attacking children, they're being blackmailed at two grand a week and they're like, so sorry, but we're were we're never going to think about that. yeah There's actually nothing we can do and we don't care. why didn't you tell us that you lost your van key? Yes, find your phone 999 immediately.
00:20:01
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is so ridiculous. Oh, the police. So we will get on all of their activities in the previous week, but I guess first let's Let's talk about who actually did kill Ray. We've already said, but who was it, Lizzie? and it was Bear. Can you imagine? you don't have to imagine. you can just watch it it can torture It was televised.
00:20:19
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Yeah. I do think that the whole scene of like Bear coming back, killing Ray and them trying to talk to him about it afterwards was a masterclass in how not to treat somebody who has dementia.
00:20:32
Speaker
Yeah. Does he definitely have dementia? between I guess he must do, or at least something's going on. Yeah, I mean, maybe it is the opiate addiction that you can't bear to watch. I was so clear that I can't ah can't face what is clearly coming about a lengthy storyline about getting off opiate addiction. Yeah, I don't know. Whatever it is, i would put him in the vulnerable adult category. And there is a lot of shouting at him and being like, you just have to remember this. And you're like, babes, like, he can't remember anything. Why don't you just talk to him gently, pop him in a different room so that he doesn't have to witness you, like, doing all these things.
00:21:06
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And then him out of the equation. Like, what? Yeah, and it was I mean, you can understand, like, Paddy's in shock, I guess. so Yeah, that's true. And Dylan's an idiot. but um But it's like a loveful idiot, but an idiot nonetheless. ah what i What I found slightly unconvincing is that any number of people have tried to kill Ray in the past week, and it was an elderly, severely malnourished man who I know he was a wrestler in the past, but he's been eating gruel for six months. True. I guess you're probably meant to think it's like muscle memory kicks in and he knows how to do this death grip or whatever it was. I guess so. But yeah, he is an elderly man, apparently. He's an elderly man as well, be clear. Yeah.
Comedic Moments and Character Quirks
00:21:50
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What I did find quite funny when, I guess it was earlier that episode maybe they did before, when Paddy was thinking about Bear, and that's so often in soaps, in order to communicate this, they have to like stare at a photo and then you see the photo.
00:22:02
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But it was quite a small photo and there was quite an enormous novelty foam hand behind it. So it did look like the camera had just panned to be in this sort of poignant moment to this enormous red novelty foam hand.
00:22:15
Speaker
Yeah, i do love that actually. imagine why they think that's lovely decor to have out dayto- day to day. Can you imagine thinking that anything in their house is lovely decor to have out day to day? It's a really valid point. It's eclectic. We'll say that for you.
00:22:31
Speaker
I did think that Paddy's living condition slash house is kind of the only house at the moment that looks like legitimately lived in and that there's like a wonky kid's drawing on the shelf there are like piles of paper on the side and like ah an old plate that hasn't been washed up and I was like see this is representation of like this is what my house looks like and then I was like oh I think it's because it's meant to be like Paddy's not coping like Maddy's got away and Paddy's not having a good time and I'm like oh that's just that's how I live I've got piles of paper everywhere this is your come to Jesus moment I think it might be and I i already have come to Jesus but I think I also need to like come to a higher living standard yeah no i mean i'm with i think obviously i've got piles of things everywhere and i appreciate any representation matters and it's good to see us either that is someone who's arguably having a mental breakdown yeah that's important too thank because i yeah i mean we talk about the decor a lot but i do think a lot of them look like the worst possible sort of travel lodge but that is not a home yeah everything just looks quite clean and neat and soulless
00:23:39
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Yeah, I guess Lydia is a cleaner. So maybe Lydia is being hired by all these different places to go. Yeah, maybe. You can see that, you know, the Dingles would feel obliged to do that. She does seem one the few people who might actually do her job on occasion.
00:23:53
Speaker
Yeah, although I wrote down this was not in the week we're currently talking about. But at one point, Rona says to Marlon, like, you need to get back to work. You can't let Chaz down. And I thought, that's a first. Everyone else has been letting their bosses down for the last 20 years.
00:24:06
Speaker
That's true. And then similarly, have been the same conversation where Paddy said he was going to go look at a wounded sheep because he was trying to keep busy. It's like, well, you could at your job in the middle of a working day rather than in the cafe. Yeah, like trying to keep busy it shouldn't normally be a part of working week. like you should just be doing your job yeah there's like some poor person with like a you know a labrador standing at the vet's be like well tom he's in a plastic bag and there's no one here well came in a so poor tommy because i do need to keep my mind busy at the moment my dad's missing so presume dead and i'm like okay okay great oh i do find it troubling the way that that all ended of like
00:24:48
Speaker
um so they killed Ray they popped him in Jay's van and why they didn't think that that van would as in like obviously that van was going to move before nightfall
In-Depth Character Analysis
00:25:01
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well I assume they thought they were going to just like drive it away so if it didn't have the key but also why did Jay not put it there in the dark like why did they think the van would still be there in the dark well that's true but also why did Jay not question that his van was like randomly in the middle of the village but Yeah, all quite strange situations happening. But um yeah, I didn't like the ending of today's episode where like Bear is now just being kept prisoner by Paddy upstairs. Like, this is not freedom yet. Yeah, what's Paddy's long-term plan just to like I truly don't know. Like, when will they set him free and be like, oh, we found him. He was upstairs the whole time.
00:25:41
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Which also reminds me of another terrible plan they had this week where we finally find out where April's been all this time, which is that her big plan was to just live in a barn. Yeah. She's like, I've escaped murder. i decided to stay really close to the scene of the crime and fend for myself in bales of hay. Yeah, I've just been hiding out at a Butler's Farm where I know everybody. And granted, she is working with the information that people aren't able to find their missing relatives whilst living on nearby farms. but So true. yeah I guess she's just really extrapolated that to her own circumstances and good good on her.
00:26:15
Speaker
um i really enjoyed seeing the farm. We saw a yard, we saw a cow, we saw some farm scenes. And I couldn't quite tell. Have you ever seen that since marijuana farm was the last you got him get involved in that?
00:26:29
Speaker
I couldn't quite tell if it's the same farm. that they used to use as Butler's Farm. like I was trying to think, like oh what did it look like when like Andy was wandering around it and stuff back in the day? I think it was similar, but I can't really remember. Yeah.
00:26:42
Speaker
Well, it's got something to keep us going. So, um yeah, so before we get back onto the previous week, what do you think overall? Were you happy with how flashback week did it fill in the gaps you were hoping for? ah Well, I think we had a bit of back and forth yesterday, didn't we, about how there have moments of it being very, very good.
00:27:01
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um moments of it being very very boring brackets Graham yeah and then most of it's just been like and fine I think the like yesterday's episode is so Thursday's episode where yeah we saw we followed what happened with Paddy and then we saw Bear actually kill him I thought that was a good episode I enjoyed it but a lot of it's been quite quite boring Yeah, i thought i' I've enjoyed quite a lot of it. I think it's had some of the better actors involved, which is nice say. That's always helpful. I've enjoyed russ Ross's involvement, as I said. i thought laurel i thought Laurel did really well. like The actor is obviously great in her scene, but it was it was hard to buy how how stupid Ray was in that. He behaved like out of character from everything else he's ever done. Yeah. And as as mentioned, the Graham scene was very tedious, but i but I do, I feel like it's answered all the questions I had going into it. Like it things that didn't make sense or yeah, I feel like it's, and it's kicked off a couple new stories, like whatever's going on with Bear. And guess, sadly, Jodie in the van. but um It's kicked off two storylines that we don't care for. Yeah. that's such a good point i'm hoping you know what other storyline might there be i'm hoping at some point they just do a classic soap thing of like let's never think about this again with i think maybe unfortunately we might also end up seeing a like arthur spiraling and rebellious vibe that's not sorry if they've got a bag full of drugs and cash in the house that you've stolen i guess that might become something oh no we saw laurel put it in the bin oh well that's sort of been
00:28:37
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already we do know the police wouldn't dream of looking but um did you throw the cash away as well because i thought i think it has some sort of like a winful story yeah um i don't know about the cash her hitting him might turn into a storyline of like yeah because he did say something before didn't he have like something incriminating like after what you've done yeah interesting interesting um it's like Belle, like Belle essentially never references her year-long trauma at the hands of her husband anymore. So maybe it can be like that.
00:29:11
Speaker
Yeah, or maybe. We'll collectively move on. Something I did want to say was, i think they did a really good job of like Paddy's glasses being a bit steamy in that like, a glasses wearer who cried. Details matter. Details matter. and that is what happens.
00:29:28
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um And it was like, at the beginning of the scene with Ray, he was like, a little bit emotional and there was just a little bit of steam and I thought you're getting a bit hot and bothered and then when he was actually crying his glasses like properly gone and I was like that's exactly what happens do you get that because I cry all the time and my glasses never steam up oh maybe I'm just a hot crier you're a hot crier that's something to know about you put it in my bio and yeah I don't know maybe I should take my glasses off when I'm
Final Thoughts and Future Directions
00:30:02
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i do't next time i'm crying i'll i'll uh
00:30:08
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yeah thanks that'd be that'd be good actually um yeah so i thought they did a good job of that and i did enjoy paddy and ray's scenes i thought they were good they they were high emotion yeah and i was quite confused about whether ray knew that bear was still alive Or whether onere didn't yeah when Bear walked into the house, that was Ray finding out he's still alive.
00:30:32
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oh surely, yeah. Which is crazy. How did he manage to get home? If he was on this farm the whole time, didn't know where he was, how did he suddenly know how to get back and also have the compulsion to do it? Oh, that's such a good point.
00:30:47
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Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, I did think it was quite underplayed. particularly by Paddy, who you think we much happier to see his dad still alive. He obviously was very concerned about other things, but he was like, oh, good, you're you're alive. Let's move on.
00:31:02
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that was quite strange. I also just think, like, there was no need for that to happen. Like, they all could have just pinned Ray down. Like, even if if Dylan just tripped him up, Paddy could have sat on top of him and then called the police but again lizzie we mustn't forget the police don't care they'll be like yeah we're well aware that he's a criminal there's death threatened people all all over the place simply not our business yeah you're right the police stop mithering at us for this information we wish you would leave us alone yeah um it was all it was all an awful lot wasn't it but um
00:31:44
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But finally, we have answers. Hopefully, ray is actually dead and Celia is actually dead and John is actually dead. We've not had much for me to John this this week, I guess. I fear that John isn't dead, but I can't cope with any more resurrection. Again, we're one and done on resurrection. um we there I've got lots of stray details from the previous week, but I guess the main thing um was Moira being arrested for human trafficking. Yeah, Robert, what the heck are you doing? You are better than this.
00:32:16
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But, I mean, Robert at least was put in a corner. Joe is just being so evil. just for just And again, we have to keep coming back to his his m MO for, or is there his motive, rather, I guess, for doing this. He's got some horrible farmland. is that farm a farm which is near constantly going under. Yeah, why doesn't he care? what Why does he care about that? It's confusing.
00:32:39
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And that's his motive for sending someone to prison for human trafficking. But I couldn't tell whether he really knew that that's what she would go down for. I think he was like, she'll just go down for like fiddling some invoices and it'll be fine. And then when i think re thoughtugh it first yeah when he found out it was human trafficking, I think he was a bit like, ooh. Well, I wish I'd seen a bit more of him feeling sad about that because then just felt some sympathy. Whereas he seemed to be like, ooh, gosh, hey, well.
00:33:06
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yeah true I think um I think Kim's gonna kick off I was a bit confused about the way that Kim was a bit like I can see you're doing something wrong here but I don't want to know about it yeah like I kind of but she might have washed her hands and pressed harder on that yeah she was just a bit like boys will be boys I guess bye yeah it was a bit of the like dastardly Kim that apparently we used to have more of um and it's interesting to see like the police officers are normally just bumbling around the background but the the usually quite competent lady did have whole i would say quite possibly illegal launch into moira about how she definitely did it like off the record and everything i think if i if i was lawyering lawyering up i'd be like i'm clearly this is clearly not a fair investigation when she determined to pin it on me
00:33:59
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I was going to ask my friend from the police and I forgot how fair that scene was because surely that can't actually happen. Like that's so corrupt of the police just to be a bit like, we know it was you by the way. Like yeah it was not at all impartial.
00:34:13
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She also said you're you're hiding behind this nice facade. It's like, does Moira have a nice facade? Because I don't think she's nice. She's always screaming at people. yeah she did like beat celia up in a pub don't think she's hiding anything i think it's just like the thing is i'm not a human trafficker that is a personal boundary i've drawn for myself yeah and we you so important to respect boundaries in this day and age um i i do think also findings and his passport was a passport or driver's license or whatever it was sort of rammed behind a cupboard is
00:34:46
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when you know that Celia has been in there all the time and know that Celia was responsible for it, you don't need a particularly good lawyer to say, Celia probably did that you certainly can't prove she didn't. who Yeah. yeah I mean, all you need to do really is be like, is there a chance? Like who goes in your house?
00:35:04
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Is there a chance it wasn't you who put it there? And like, if you were keeping the details of like illegal immigrants slash vulnerable people you've kidnapped, you would probably not just have them on the bottom shelf of a bookcase that children clearly use.
00:35:20
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Yeah. And also, why do you even keep them? Yeah, true. Just get rid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the whole thing's ridiculous. And I also think, like, I mean, it's really put me off Joe. Not that I was particularly on Joe, but he he's it my I don't like it when people are just, like, plain evil. It's just not interesting to watch. The whole blackmail over Victoria, bless her heart, Victoria would certainly be able to get away with self-defense. is like If anything, Joe's video supports her case.
00:35:49
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Yeah, literally, like, she could genuinely just go to the police and be like, I've done this. it was in self-defense he was trying to kill me. And then here's a video to show that he was trying to kill me. If you'd like of here it Yeah. Thanks, Jo, actually. So I don't really get why everyone is so intent on covering everything up when if you just told the truth, it would be fine. They were saying about this on the Rob Ron podcast as well, about how, like, if Charity just told the truth, i.e.,
00:36:15
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I received a deep fake voice note from my husband saying he'd left me and I was very, very sad. So I slept with somebody else and now I fear I'm pregnant. That's not great, but kind of legit. I'd forgotten it was all because of the deep fake voice note. Yeah. but She literally thought that Mac had left her.
00:36:32
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And so she did that. And I don't think that Mac would be pleased to hear it. I think he would be like, yeah, there were other factors at play here. yeah if everyone just told the truth obviously it wouldn't be a very interesting soap but like there are legitimate reasons that people do things and then they get like obsessed with covering it up yeah i did enjoy the charity ross scene uh partly i quite liked the sort of her offering money desperately him saying i might they said no And then her apologising for that, I thought it was all quite moving for both characters. Because you can see, as you're saying, like she made an understandable, if unwise, oh error of judgement.
00:37:12
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um And it's all spiralled. But neither of them are dotating it. They're not just like trying out to hurt people for the sake of hurting people. Exactly. Although earlier this pregnancy, lest we forget, Ross hated Mac and was taunting him often about the charity being pregnant. That's so true, now they're like best friends.
00:37:32
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Now he would do anything to protect his friendship. And I love that friendship, I'm sad that it's inevitably going to end. It does seem quite likely to end, doesn't it? um But it's also an indicator of how long this pregnancy has lasted, which i ah I guess technically is less than nine months, but it certainly feels longer. Yeah, it feels, I think, double the length because of the amount of time that Sarah has been like really annoying about it. But I still feel sad for Sarah when she inevitably finds out that isn't her child.
00:37:59
Speaker
Yeah, that will be sad. it will probably have like a medical crisis and then, I don't know, Jake will be like, wait. that doesn't run in my family or I don't know something like that something something tedious yeah um yeah I mean their passion to have a child was quite sudden but but still it has been all-consuming ever since then it is the only thing they've ever really done together they appear to have met maybe twice and then they're suddenly engaged and obsessed with having a child so yeah it's like Millie Bobby Brown and her and her husband were they like adopted age 20 or whatever yeah I know but
00:38:36
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they i I think they're cute, so I won't hear a word said against them. Okay. a My only thought is that she should stop standing her hair after a Vanka Trump, but that that's just by the by.
00:38:49
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um Neither by the by is what I was going with. ah I did also think it was funny that Charity went to like seek comfort from Chaz and it was the worst possible port in a storm, where Chaz was just like, yeah, I told you so, you're cheating her, basically. LAUGHTER
00:39:04
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Yeah, I mean, I don't think Charity has anybody left who would give her comfort in this situation because it's completely self-inflicted. Everybody the whole way through has been like, if you tell the truth, it'll be really bad. But like, that is better. And she's been like, no, I can't possibly. So who on earth could she turn to now who wouldn't just be like,
00:39:23
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you cheat her I feel like Lydia is the best person to turn to but she she wouldn't like think it was right but she probably wouldn't scream at her yeah she to je say she wouldn't be angry about it but she would still I think drop a few truth bombs and be like this is your own fault you know who actually would be quite good because her moral compass is quite all over the place i think Ruby would be quite a good person to confide in yeah that's true and you know Ruby herself has cheated for no particular reason Yeah, I think she'd be like, you're an idiot, but here's a plan. And the plan won't make sense, but it might make more sense than what you're currently doing.
00:40:00
Speaker
you Have Charity and Ruby had much overlap before? Because I feel like they could be like a kind of hectic, unhinged friendship. We'd love that. Although obviously i I want the Ruby and Man-Bree friendship that is taking place entirely off screen, but I want i want more of that as well.
00:40:16
Speaker
Everything Everdale appears to take place screen at the moment. Except for Jay saying and same thing over and over again. Yeah, so true. He's so on screen. He could be more on screen. Do you think they paid him five times for that one scene that he did? Because they showed him five times. I do hope that for him. ah We realised that we didn't really talk about Robber on engagement at all. And I don't know if now is a good time to talk about it. Yeah, we sort of just like glossed over that because it was so Corydale-focused.
00:40:44
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Yeah, I enjoyed that. And i I feel like it was just apt, especially that they were roadside, because everything that they ever do is roadside. um And the fact that it was just like...
00:40:55
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oh, it's us, isn't it? Shall we Like, it was just kind of funny the way they just, it was romantic, but they were also just a bit like, yeah, go on then. Yeah, I mean, i know this isn't relevant at all to this period, but I thought we should just address it. I thought it was sweet. I thought it was probably the wrong time to make big life decisions, but also it was inevitable that they would get married at some point. So why not? Yeah, I found it interesting some of the Corrie fans just being a bit like, who are these two random men getting engaged in LA? But I think maybe i don't know.
00:41:26
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It would be hard to understand how that was a romantic scene if you didn't already know Rob Ron. Yes, that's true. Lay by other aphrodisiacs. Yeah, I don't think it was a way to like get people into the Rob Ron saga.
00:41:40
Speaker
But for those of us who were already behind it, we loved her We loved it. It was sweet. um The most unhinged time to do it. um ah Just a general comment I had on the whole Who Killed Ray story.
00:41:55
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is I like that no there was never a chance it was someone connected in any other way with the human trafficking. like It couldn't have been any of the other people who was keeping hostage or any of their families or any of the ah you know any of the other people in their drug dealing ring or a rival drug dealer or any number of other people were like, no, it must be one of various local busybodies.
00:42:17
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yeah Yeah, I feel like Graham maybe be alluded to the fact that Rey is known in this underworld or whatever, um and not in a nice way. And that was refreshing because it did feel like Rey turned up as if he was this big gangland criminal but then only really concentrated on one very small village and in particular two teenagers and one old man within it um so i was like oh cool there he has got more going on than just that but then yeah you're right the only suspects for his murder would be from emmerdale like na someone could have just come in from like anywhere scunthorpe
00:42:54
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and obviously that would be very disappointing narratively if they had just been like right she is this guy we've never heard of them willll never see again but yeah but police should be widening their net i would say yeah unfortunately it was ian from scantle that you haven't heard of yeah that's classic ian he does he does like to murder people he does i've heard that yeah didn't see any language they understand in scantle um i did like the monday first monday of the two-week period the opening scene of the police cars going through the village to arrest moira and everyone like turning to look at them ominously yeah it was really good that was cinema that that was cinema i enjoyed it it was high drama yeah um from watching classic emmerdale you realize how they really have scaled down how many different sets they use like we used to see a lot inside the police station and that was as in like when the police are talking to each other they're all sat at their desks and they've all got big whiteboards and they're drawing like lines between people it's like oh kind of would love that i'm i'm sure it's budget cutbacks and they would if they could but it would be more interesting to see that rather than just like interrogation rooms and sometimes the front desk that's true and most of their actual conversations seem to be in in the high street of emidale what they just said yeah it's all very public yeah
00:44:12
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um I've just got a few like I mean these have been relatively stray comments already but I'm i'm down to like stray highlights yeah I've run out of even strays so you just keep firing them at me just rattle them all off there were there were three scenes in a row I think where people were offered quite upsetting food yeah so I can't remember who was that Lydia turned up to maybe it was Paddy or someone she was like I brought rabbit stew yeah know that was Paddy that was difficult and I know it was very Sam and Lydia dingle coded but I didn't enjoy hearing about it And also feels a bit on the nose. It's like, I get you guess people do do this, but it just feels a bit like, oh, want to buy some pegs whilst we're here. Like, no. It's not going to happen. um In the next scene, Rhoda, I think to April, was like, you want to reheat some porridge? just thought that'd be disgusting. Like, reheat a porridge. Like, porridge is really like, you eat it whilst it's hot or you you've probably had your time. It's like scrambled eggs. Like, just don't go back to it.
00:45:06
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make her some new porridge if anything she yeahs she deserves new porridge she's been through enough make her some new porridge come on and then the third scene wasn't disgusting for you but Dawn offered Joe pasta and like Joe has not eaten a carb in a decade no i'm not unless he's like if he's actually in Italy and it's been made of his eyes he might eat pasta as long as he goes for a marathon afterwards or maybe maybe he has like that pasta that's made of chickpeas or something
00:45:37
Speaker
Yeah, he is, i would say, like, unbearably attractive. Like, I think it would actually just be too much, wouldn't it, if you Dawn and you'd just be like, I can't take you seriously anymore. Like, why don't you just do something weird for a bit? i mean, I think this probably says more about you possibly, than than objective fact, but... um but Sure. I think personality maybe personality-wise would be the thing that brought you back down to Earth.
00:46:06
Speaker
Yeah, too like to be a terrible person. Yeah. um But yeah, he does seem like he is in a gym at least 18 hours out of every 24. but we never see him there. As in, like not that we've seen him there, but he's never been like, oh, I've just got back from the gym, or like I'm going to the gym later and then I'll have dinner. Yeah, unless we forget this is a man who relatively recently was dying of kidney disease but he seems to put that behind him he because the transplant takes a while to heal from doesn't it well not for him not for him and i'm guessing maybe home farm probably has like a a home gym somewhere or something true yeah i bet it's all just in-house yeah maybe do oh or billy was a personal trainer wasn't he where was he doing that just in people's living rooms i don't know i don't know yeah
00:46:52
Speaker
He's left that behind him now that he's seeing his true passion of moving boxes. He's left it behind now that he is no longer on our screen in any way. Other than in a flashback with Priya. wondered if they did. Was that old footage or did they refilm stuff with her? i think it must be old footage. I mean, I wasn't watching them, but I can't imagine they've dragged pri Because that was Priya. I'm sure you've seen her in your Rob run watching. But yeah, I doubt she's popping back to do that scene.
00:47:18
Speaker
Fair. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. The other... What was going to say on that? who selling Oh, yeah, I was trying to remember. know that Billy... it was the fight ring woman, wasn't it, that he was giving personal training lessons to? i was trying to remember what like evil scheme she was involved in.
00:47:35
Speaker
Jade? Yeah, wasn't she part of the fight fight ring? I just didn't remember that he was personally training her. that okay? Well, I think so, because Dawn thought that they were flirting or... going i didn't Oh, sure. Maybe I remembering. I thought that he was just like pretending he was doing personal training, but he was actually doing illegal fights, and then she would see messages from Jade being like, are we going to do the next one at this time? And he'd be like, oh, like she's she's a client, and she wasn't a client, she was running an illegal fight ring.
00:48:06
Speaker
He really pulled the wool over my eyes. I totally bought it. That's quite tragic for you. Sorry about that. I'm going all over the place. It's so easy to cheat on you. Oh my gosh, wouldn't it just?
00:48:18
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um Jimmy said, you see things this on documentaries. At one point, like Jimmy is not watching documentaries. Does Jimmy watch other soap operas and he thinks that they're documentaries?
00:48:30
Speaker
was thinking, like ah I guess it could be those terrible Netflix, like, serial killer documentaries and i i bet nicola would watch those and jimmy would just be there in the background yeah maybe yeah like true crime stuff yeah where it's like the most sensationalist one where they've got really nothing to say but they do it through lots of like you won't believe what happened next sort of interviews of people who weren't really involved yeah oh my gosh nicola would like sorry i would just love to see a true crime thing about ray where nicola is on the talking heads wouldn't that be amazing that would be so good we should probably make that
00:49:01
Speaker
That's a spin-off idea. Yeah, I really love that. Really love that. ah Mac talked about having to do extra work so he had a new car to pay for. was Did his car insurance not cover like a pile-up? Surely it would.
00:49:16
Speaker
ah yeah Well, maybe, oh no, you have to be insured. That's illegal. And then he went on some weird like Sponcom for electric cars, which did feel like being heavy handed. Yeah, that felt quite like product placement-y. Why are you doing this? Feel like we're in the Truman Show. Yeah, it did feel like the Truman Show. Like he just in the pub, why are suddenly turning up on how great electric cars are?
00:49:38
Speaker
Calm down, Mac. And like probably most of those houses are grade two listed. You're not going to put an electric point in them. Yeah, so true. Although, i don't know. Would they be listed? They don't look that nice.
00:49:50
Speaker
Everything i in my flat is listed. Everything in my village is listed. Really? Fair. North-South Divide. And they are in the north. Well, they are. Maybe we've not got to listing the properties in the north yet. We'll finish this out first. Chatsworth can just stick any extension they like on the side. They probably can. No, they're in the feet of the National Park. You can't do anything there. My parents' house isn't listed, but because it's in the National Park, it still has to look a certain way.
00:50:14
Speaker
Right. Yeah, crazy. Isn't it just two final things? I really feel like I'm monologuing here and I hope that's okay. lovely. lady I really went over over town. I went to town or over ward. I'm only sorry that I didn't really write any notes. As I did tell you, I left my notepad in a different room and therefore forgot that it existed and took no notes. Yeah, you're a really faminal feast on the odd notepad. I'm really sorry. This is a new, I'm turning over a new leaf for the next fortnight.
00:50:41
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um they mentioned slurry and it was such a mixed missed opportunity for them to reveal that Mac was not responsible for the slurry I've been really hoping that slurry gate will come out and it also made me think like tied in with the AI like deepfake of Mac's voice note like did that ever come out did Mac ever find out that John did that and like does i guess so oh because John really threw Mac under the bus in two big big ways Well, Matt knew John was doing because John did in front of him. Yeah, that's really true.
00:51:13
Speaker
okay i don't know if he's so if they've had that conversation, i guess they must have done it. But the slurry thing, that needs to come out. If that never comes out, I will take my anger to my grave.
00:51:25
Speaker
Maybe when we go on the tour later, we should make a point of raising it. Yeah, true. Because we've to go on the tour. We're going on the star tour. Very exciting other thing that Simon got me for my birthday, which I really can't wait for.
00:51:38
Speaker
We're going to go back to the village where it all began for us. Yeah, and we will certainly do a little mini-app reporting from the village if we're allowed to do that. We should probably check if we're here allowed to. but I don't think we will be allowed to. I guess we can take video footage and do something.
00:51:52
Speaker
do Yeah, we can give our thoughts and maybe even get the star to feature. I suspect we definitely won't be allowed to do that. but No, probably not. get soundbite of them saying like thanks for listening to dingle all the way oh my gosh i'd love that so yeah we're gonna don't know if people know but you can do the regular tour which is what we did um like two years ago whatever it is now yeah um and or nearly and then you can also do the star tour where you were guaranteed to meet a star remember where star is just someone who plays in the cast so we don't know it could be rodney we don't know
00:52:26
Speaker
Why are you so anti at being Rodney? I'd like it to be Rodney. You keep saying it was Rodney. You wouldn't want it to be Rodney. Obviously there are people that I would want to meet more than Rodney. I wouldn't be like gutted to meet Rodney. It wouldn't be a negative part of my day. be, I would consider that a personal setback.
00:52:45
Speaker
i hate you like actually i'm good don't worry about it my wife i won't go in yeah i mean i don't know there's no one there would be super disappointed unless it's like an older cast member i don't know if they ever do this like if it's someone who i've never seen on screen that would be that would be a shame but yeah i would have thought it'd be somebody who is in the show currently That makes sense. And that sound any of them I'd be thrilled to see. I mean, I think I'd be particularly thrilled to see someone who we love who is maybe not like A-list within the show. So you're like, you're Lydia's, for me, Victoria Romand-Pri, and yeah for you, Sam. Like, as someone who isn't the big, you know, Chaz Cain charity, the people that everyone's gunning for, and we'd be like, I don't think they do it. I don't think that the, like, legacy characters need to get involved. No. Yeah, Jeff Hoardley, bless his sweet, sweetheart, is not turning up to that. I'd really like to meet Beth Cordingly. I think she seems like such a legend. and I really want it to be her.
00:53:43
Speaker
Yeah, I think my... Who is my number one? I don't know, because it's some of them I love too much and it would just be too embarrassing. You would embarrass yourself if it was like Ross Barton or if it can't do Ross, I can't do Shebs. I can't do Victoria. You would die. Okay.
00:53:58
Speaker
I don't think I, yeah, I don't think I cope with them. But I think like, maybe like Manpreet, that would be a good, a good me to put someone, a character I love, but I wouldn't just be too overwhelmed by love. yeah I'd like to meet um Eden Tyler Draper, who plays Belle.
00:54:11
Speaker
Yeah, i wonder if she still does it. Anyway, my final thing I was going to say, um it was that I liked that had a little phone call from Mandy. it was quite weird that she, within the show didn't come to support her husband when his father died and yeah that was difficult yeah we know that is because she was filming i'm a celebrity get me out of here at the time and it would have been difficult for her to come back from the jungle but yeah if your husband has found out that his dad has been forced into slavery and killed you would probably come home from ireland
00:54:45
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Yeah, because we don't know exactly what's going on with the Irish contingent, including Tina, who I thought she hated. Yeah, I thought they like fell out and it was awful. But she's like, I'm still prioritising my nemesis over my husband in this particular situation. It's a rogue move, but we love to see it.
00:55:00
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Yeah, has she been like, don't know, my passport's got lost or whatever. do you need a passport to go Ireland? I don't know. Oh, I can't remember. Well, you need some sort of ID, I guess. Or if she's like, a broken my leg or like i don't know. Something that means she wouldn't be able to travel. That would feel a bit more convincing than i just I've prioritised being here.
00:55:16
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Yeah. Yeah, she's really made it her aim to not see Paddy in his time of need. She's like, you're a lot and I can't deal with this. You seem to be spiralling and I can't bear to be around it. Sorry. Which I sort of respect in a way.
00:55:31
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yeah it's sweet it's sweet what she's doing so yeah it's it's been after my goodness months and months and months of the same episode over and over again it felt like it's been a lot going on i hope we can put some of it behind us and i'm i feeling like a bit more excited about what's going on in in the future of emerald when i say that minus i don't want the human trafficking arrests from moira storyline i don't want the graham storyline other things i'm excited about Yeah, there are a lot of things I don't want to see, but a lot of things that I'm glad I no longer have to see.
00:56:03
Speaker
So that's it's a place that we've got to. And there was some farming content. of course, yes, we saw a cow. So I'm happy. That's tidied me over for the next two weeks. That was lovely stuff. And then what name will we get? I've deleted C.L. and Ray's names. forgot that we even do that. I guess we haven't done it for the last couple weeks. so Or a couple of episodes.
00:56:29
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We're going to talk about Rona. Oh, great. Well, very topical. Gosh, she's had a busy time with it. Yeah, and she hasn't really done any work for a while either. She's meant to be a vet. And all she's really done is give money to a drug dealer and spiral out and then be reunited with the ex-love of her life.
00:56:47
Speaker
Yeah, you'd think you'd need to have as much income as possible to pay your £2,000 a week debt. But she's, yeah... Yeah, so that's different. um But I like Rona, other than when she sometimes just like goes mental and does completely irrational things, and then after it is like, I had to do it for my family. you're what? That's always their go-to. Yeah, I think Rosario Henry iss what is a really good actress. i didn't You haven't seen any of this, but there's the storyline where she had addiction to painkillers and then on to Kat, she was so good in that story.
00:57:23
Speaker
And the story where her husband raped her, she was, yeah, absolutely amazing in that story. But I think she's quite inconsistently written as a character. Like sometimes she's got this like intense moral compass and sometimes she doesn't really seem to have as much. And sometimes she's quite like, not timid, but she's bit more like backward in coming forward as it were. and not backward in an insulting way. I was like, going to need to like backtrack, backtrack. And then sometimes she's like really, really feisty. And I just don't know. There's not a of characters. You never know what's coming. You don't know what's coming. A lot of characters, you know how they're react in a scene or you know how they're like, with her, I'd be like, if like, say someone cheated on her, I don't know whether she'd like, I really angry, go murderous, or if she desperately sad or like that sort thing. Yes. I don't know what, I don't know what the Rona behavior is.
00:58:12
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Yeah, it's a shame because they have meant that she is completely unpredictable. And I don't think in real life she would have very many stable relationships because you literally have no idea if she's going to be calm, loving. And the way she treats April, like sometimes she's really sweet, really calm. really protective of her and sometimes she just is goes mental and is like i hate you you're disgusting and it's just like that poor girl pick a lane literally and we started watching just after i think what was quite a big story for like for her of going to court over ivy yeah yeah so don't know all the internet's of that but
00:58:50
Speaker
I think they do give her big stories, but maybe only like once a year or something and rather than like all the time. And she does always do work. Yeah. um Yeah. And I'm glad she gets some. I'm glad that.
00:59:01
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Certainly glad she's in the cast. But um I don't know. I don't know how you can make someone consistent after this many years of being inconsistent. Yeah. Yeah. I'd say in conclusion, I like Rona, but it's also hard to know how to like her when she's about three to four different characters in any given week.
00:59:20
Speaker
Yeah. And as we always say, she needs more friends. Yeah. Everyone needs friends. Yeah. They did the whole like friends with Mandy thing for a while, didn't they? But that petered out instantly. I literally don't remember that. They had that dinner where they're like, we hate each other. And then by end, they're like, we love each other. And then then they never spoke again.
00:59:38
Speaker
Yeah. I don't remember this, but it does sound like it would have happened. Yeah. Great. Well, there we go um Another episode. and Happy January, everyone.
00:59:50
Speaker
Happy January. So true. Do you get in touch, dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com. You can find us ah sporadically on Instagram, dinglealltheway.pod. And we are also on YouTube now, if you if you prefer.
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