Podcast Introduction & Editing Decisions
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everybody and welcome to Dingle All The Way. I'm Lizzie. I'm Simon. And this week on Dingle The Way we're recording like almost half past nine on a Sunday night and we'd quite like to get this episode out before the next Emmerdale episode comes out tomorrow. So we're thinking of maybe just like not editing this and just like pressing go when it's done and you guys can tell us if it's terrible. Yeah. And we should say we don't do masses of edits normally, but but you know we might get rid of if like the postman comes whatever. But this time if the postman comes at half past nine at night, then we we're just going to have to listen to that. yeah Yeah, I guess most of the editing I do is like sound quality based and removing long pauses. But let's just hope that neither of us pause for very long and neither of us have bad sound quality. like We won't know in a way. We don't know. i'm sorry. we just had very busy weekends.
Emmerdale Airing Timing Concerns
00:00:56
Speaker
And guess there's, limited numbers of people who are like chomping at the bit for this to be out but but those quite those core few will be thrilled I'm sure to see him yeah so thrilled and I think we have once or twice haven't we recorded a podcast like and then ended up publishing it after the next one has come out and you're just like oh we were talking about that thing when it was still in that plot line like progress point but then things have actually moved on
00:01:24
Speaker
Like if Manpreet starts like gunning people down in the street on Monday and we've not mentioned that and we're like big Manpreet fans, that's awkward. And like she probably is going to start doing that tomorrow. Yeah. But it's okay that we haven't mentioned it although And also in a way we have.
Speculative Emmerdale Storylines
00:01:39
Speaker
It's true, actually. Should we just mention every possible storyline? Maybe Jimmy's, like, psychological paralysis storyline's kicking off tomorrow. Oh, my God. Why are you so obsessed with that? Look, the heart wants what the heart wants.
00:01:52
Speaker
And I want Jimmy to have psychological paralysis. Who was it that was really into that? Was it Rachel Troutman? Rachel was cheering me on. She, like, emailed in and was just like, I love the psychological paralysis storyline for Jimmy.
00:02:04
Speaker
I still love that you put that under predictions. Do you really think that was definitely going to happen? You will be eating humble pie by the end of 2026. I can't wait.
Guest Appearance on 'Pop Goes the Tam'
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I just ate a really good rhubarb crumble.
00:02:21
Speaker
She's... She's ready for more pie. I don't know. This the sort thing I'd normally cut. Before we get into the actual... I don't think I would have normally cut if I would have continued to. That's true. We do have a low bar for cutting, don't we?
00:02:34
Speaker
um I left in when I thought you were flashing me. So... Before we get into into two weeks, we should say that we have been a guests on an episode of Pop Goes the Tam Tam by our friend Tamsin, who will hopefully, well, she will be on a future episode of this, I'm sure.
00:02:50
Speaker
um But we were invited on to talk about our favourite Emmerdale couples. um Maybe let's not spoil who they are. If you want to go find out who our favourite Emmerdale couples, past and present, are, um look up Pop Goes the Tam Tam and you will find us there.
Current Emmerdale Storylines Discussion
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Speaker
Yeah, Tamsin's great. I love well... lots of things about her but her laugh is just incredible it's completely infectious and she's such a bright personality so i would head there and listen I was going to say right now but i actually want you to continue to listen to our podcast as well so I'm not going to tell you exactly when at some point make sure you listen to both yeah put it in your own scheduling we're not we're not your PAs okay yeah and like I can't bear that burden I've told you before
00:03:40
Speaker
So what is the main story of the past two weeks? o Has there been one? Probably like Moira in prison and Cain being ill, do you think? I guess so, and all the bear stuff. It's just a continuation of all these things really, isn't it? All the bear stuff. And then there's been quite a lot of Joe Tate Graham stuff as well.
00:04:01
Speaker
That's true. um Well, shall we start with, I guess, the bear stuff? Because bear confessed to murder. Yeah, Bear confessed to murder. and I think that the police are also on to Paddy being there. I don't think they're necessarily on to Dylan being there, but i think they can tell that Paddy was and they're going to try and weedle it out of him is my prediction.
00:04:24
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, we don't always rate the police in Emmadale. but I think they'd have to be peculiarly stupid not to work out Paddy was there because he is such a terrible, like, but the what the word I want? I don't know. He's not covering his tracks well. um He seems very keen to like quite loudly blow their cover by having animated conversations about it in the police station, which is a bold move. But I guess it's on character. Like you you wouldn't think Paddy was the sort of person who could hide anything from the police or has had much call to do so. Yeah. And I do kind of feel like,
00:04:58
Speaker
They let him... like They did give him quite an open door to confess when they were like, we've been doing this job long enough to know you're one of the good guys. If you've got anything to say, it's better for you to say it now. like I think they would be on his side if he was literally... I was in the room when it happened. I panicked.
00:05:15
Speaker
This is what happened. yeah But he didn't do that. He didn't tell the truth. He's just relying on this conference that you know they he just hopes they just don't check that he
Police Strategies & Misconduct in Emmerdale
00:05:26
Speaker
was there. yeah I love, love, love, love that he was like oh yeah I'm just gonna have to hope that they don't actually see who went down on the register and I'm like why do you think they wouldn't investigate that and also why couldn't you just say i was at home or I went to the cafe or something rather than like oh I was at this place is easily disprovable I was in this place, but actually nobody saw me there and there was a register taken and I won't be on it, sorry. What I haven't mentioned in this is important information is that i am a ghost. I don't know if that's into your investigation at all.
00:05:58
Speaker
It's something you may not noticed about me, but there's actually no official government record of me ever existing. Yeah. just Just make sure to consider that when you're looking into my alibi.
00:06:09
Speaker
um Yeah, I do find the police lady just very, very difficult because she... seems intent on pinning stuff on moira and intent on sort of riling bear up into some sort of frenzy so that he can no longer really speak think surely neither of these are good police interview strategies yeah and i can't work out if she's meant if it's meant to be not a storyline necessarily but like a bit of police ah misconduct or something or if it is just like that maybe that's what the police are like we're not sure
00:06:40
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think it's meant to be a storyline. and i think it's just just an attitude, but maybe I'm wrong.
Cain Dingle's Family Connections
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Speaker
It could launch into a police brutality storyline, you know, the vulnerable people in police custody or something. Who knows? Yeah, maybe. Was it sort of Prince Andrew themed?
00:06:55
Speaker
um this Is he a vulnerable person? No, you just said custody. and i was like, oh yeah, I'm relevant. Maybe we do need to edit this podcast. Ha ha! I don't even understand what you're saying, but no, leave it in I don't really like that. Oh, sorry. Okay. Kane seems to have really conflated the storylines in a way that doesn't make any sense, where it's like, if I out what happens from Bear, then Mori will definitely get off having a dead body on her land. And I can see maybe Bear would be able to say like,
00:07:27
Speaker
Maury didn't have anything to do with it but Bear's hardly the most reliable witness but two two things about this storyline confused me or not storyline but this like beat of the storyline so one point Kane referred to him as Bear as family and I'm guessing is that because Paddy's married to Mandy this sort of links them all in yeah I guess so like Paddy is Mandy's father-in-law bear it Bear is Paddy's, yeah.
00:07:51
Speaker
Yeah, sorry, that's what i meant. Has Paddy changed his surname Dingle? I don't know. I think maybe he Yeah, he did, I think. um And I suppose, like, Paddy is a father figure to Aaron.
00:08:07
Speaker
That's true. I'm probably guessing at this point. It's like, if you live in the village, you're probably related to a Dingle. Let's just assume. that Yeah, I'd say that, like, Paddy and Mandy are more Dingles than, like, Tate's.
00:08:19
Speaker
But yeah, saying that his family is maybe stretching the point a little.
Exaggerated Comparisons & Character Reflections
00:08:24
Speaker
Yeah. um The other thing was Kane stole petrol from Paddy's car to immobilise him, so i forget for the reason um he did this, but when Claudette found out about it, she seemed to compare it to being as bad as modern slavery. as She was just like, there's terrible things happening. The modern slavery ring, this petrol store incident. It's like, Claudette, we need to learn um scales, I think. like yeah Yeah. That's so funny. Claudette's had some quite good cameos recently. like um Oh, no, I think it was like in the last chunk of ones when... um
00:09:01
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is it Jimmy in the cafe was like oh um I can't believe Graham's back maybe it's the second coming and she was like watch your mouth out and then there was oh no this wasn't actually Claudette but um in the last week Mandy like has a go at Bernadette in um David's shop and it's just like who's Bernadette not Bernadette, always call her Bernadette, I meant Claudette. And um Mandy has a go at her and then like it says to someone else, I almost lost it then.
00:09:37
Speaker
I think you did lose it, actually. And Claudette's just stood there like, alright. And it's one of the things, like if someone in my village shouted at me in a public context, I would never speak to them again. i would never recover from it. It's water under the bridge as soon as seems done. Yes, a home from home from them, really, sort screaming each other.
00:09:56
Speaker
I mean, main way of talking to anyone is screaming, isn't it Yeah, happy or sad. There's there's screaming involved, you're so right. I don't really know how this is going to end. um I did find it intriguing how Paddy said...
00:10:11
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about their if they charge him he's just not going to cope and I thought well the last year or so of his life has been him in captivity and in a way he seems to now not know know what to do not being in captivity slash you have been trapping him in a small room yeah so it feels like prison would not be altogether different from just life with Paddy for the last little while might be a rescuer at this point we'll have a break because at least you can like use the library something I I think one problem with this storyline for me is that because spare had done nothing in like the year or whatever we watched before the storyline started I've no idea what his character is like before that know know how the storyline has changed him I don't know how out of character how he's behaving now is because I've got nothing no benchmark and same for you yeah yeah you're right I guess when we started watching was he in the program at all when
00:11:10
Speaker
he Technically, yes, but only popped up like once a month or something. Yeah, I think he had some very minor roles. And then his main storyline was that he was becoming more and more withdrawn. And they were like, oh, I wonder if you're depressed or maybe it's dementia.
00:11:23
Speaker
And then obviously he went missing. So we don't have, you're right, we don't really have a benchmark to be like, wow, it's so out of character that he's like this.
Friendship Prospects for Cain Dingle
00:11:30
Speaker
We're just a bit like, cool. It's fair. It's fair. That's what he's like. and two two things the police said that again it'll amuse me one was she's like you could go away for a very long time and like with the best one in the world how many years bear got left he's not going to serve 50 years in prison is he a very long time maybe stretching the point and is actually quite insensitive yeah and i do apologize but um but i'm gonna move on anyway and then um
00:12:00
Speaker
I do happen to have completely forgotten what the second one was. That's nice. We can come back to it. What could it have been? Oh, who knows? Okay. Carry on. Sorry hear that. um I don't have much else to say about this whole storyline other than that um nothing in the world feels less natural.
00:12:19
Speaker
than Liam saying mate when he addressed Cain to try and come for him. Other than, I think, don't you and your brother Colin have sort of a longstanding joke or thing on your podcast about you trying to call people mate and not really being able to do it Or rather, I just think it's absurd. Like, I don't do it because they're not my mate.
00:12:42
Speaker
I don't do it to my actual mates either, but do call people pal, as you know. So that's my... What does ring true... Liam using it is like he's definitely the sort of person who would awkwardly use it to like a mechanic who wasn't his friend or to like somebody's come to fix the boiler or whatever an effort to seem relatable to try and be a man of the people he would awkwardly call someone mate yeah and maybe that's what his friendship with Kane is he's just still trying to be like I may be posh but also i' I'm just like you but your friend Yeah, true.
Victoria's Departure & John's Death
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Yeah, that is that is quite an astute observation, actually. Maybe it's more in character for Liam's same mate than we thought. But I don't think he would actually say it to Kane. I think he would say it to the boiler man. Definitely the boiler man.
00:13:26
Speaker
Yeah, but I do think, I mean, we always say we want people to have friends. I i do think Kane needs a different friend. But it's nice that he came that he's got Sarah to support him in this yeah' cancer storyline.
00:13:37
Speaker
Who do you think would be a good friend for Kane? Who's left? I mean, I guess it it'd be nice if him and Caleb weren't constantly deciding they hate each other forever. yeah that's true.
00:13:49
Speaker
Because Caleb could be a good one. i mean, maybe Graham, if I think they have both tried to kill each other. but I think if he could headras get over how um annoying he seems to find him, he could be quite good friends with Ross.
00:14:04
Speaker
Yeah, maybe. Maybe. I don't know if Ross would benefit from that. though I'd like him to be friends with Rona just because they're married in real life. but they do That is the reason they're not really friends in the thing though, isn't it?
00:14:18
Speaker
There was a funny moment years and years ago when it was actually during a time that Rona had a storyline with her possessive husband in the show. But, um, they so playing a drinking game or something and they had to say who like who their secret crush in the village was and she said Cain and this that was quite funny that's quite sweet I like that don't think we'll be seeing them together as as friends or anything else in the ah in the actual shame um I don't really have anything else to say about this, but I feel like I should.
00:14:49
Speaker
No, it's fine. I've not got anything else about it either. um Let's move on to... Well, we seem to have had a few storylines which have just been like swept under the rug now. Of course, in the last week two weeks, we have said farewell to my favourite character, Victoria. She goes off on maternity leave.
00:15:07
Speaker
um we all We had totally assumed she was going to prison. Yeah, no she's just not able to cope with all the reminders when she's in Emmerdale of, you know, her life and how it's ended up. And it didn't seem like the most logical reason to me to leave, but maybe that's insensitive. I don't want to be sort of gaslighting her, but did seem a bit strange.
00:15:30
Speaker
you like Is this really what was the tipping point after everything else you've lived through over the past 25 years whatever? Yeah, there has been a lot. But it's nice that she's still in touch with Diane. So Diane was in the show for a very long time. You've probably seen her in the Rob Ron playlist.
00:15:46
Speaker
And is, I guess, Victoria's stepmom. But yeah, was in that role for a very long time. So that's nice. That is nice. Yeah. um They've obviously decided...
00:15:59
Speaker
that John committed suicide, which I'm intrigued to know what sort of death by stabbing could be suicide. Well, it was, um, it was a syringe, wasn't it? of Oh, that's right. The sedative. So I guess they must have been like, oh, he took his own drugs. I did think he got it in the neck, not in like a... Metaphorically and literally. Yeah, maybe I sort of imagined that and we don't know where it was stabbed into.
00:16:25
Speaker
I sort of imagined it being in his neck. i don't know if I saw that or if it was from my mind. um And that'd be quite a hard place to stab yourself, I think. It does feel like one that the police could perhaps spend more more time on, but they've obviously decided they're not going to.
Real-Life Emmerdale Set Encounter
00:16:39
Speaker
And that's that's fine. You know, the police do march the beat their own drum in Emmerdale. But he's quite annoying on the whole. not too bothered.
00:16:49
Speaker
I have a big, massive, exciting update, actually. and we You know last week I saw Hotton taxi on the road, no mind. Yes. That's the taxi that Vic left the village in.
00:17:01
Speaker
Same registration plates. I know, I checked it. That is huge! I know! oh my gosh. I don't know what we need to do with this information, but I'm glad we have it. Yeah, me too. And I really wish I'd left a note on the windscreen because I haven't seen it there recently and it was there for like two, three days and I wish that I'd left a note being like, who are you?
00:17:20
Speaker
Why is this here? Tell me more. But I don't know I'll get that chance now. And it's usually on my way to work. Maybe I'll just start, I'll pre-write a note that I keep in my co-pocket.
00:17:32
Speaker
This isn't at all weird. It's normal to just carry around notes for classroom might bump into. Imagine if I get hit by a car and the only way that it can identify me is like a note in my pocket like, hi, I'm just wondering if you can tell me what's going on. They'll be like, troubled local woman Lizzie Fry was writing notes to fictional people she carried around with her. Just in case.
Biblical Idioms & Emmerdale References
00:18:00
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Yes, this this death is a blessing. um It's unusual for a police report. but
00:18:09
Speaker
can you imagine that being read out my funeral her death was indeed a blessing and we will just now read the note that we found in her coat pocket says can you let me know what's going on here lizzie finally knows what's going on now she's finally at peace oh i wish i was at peace oh you should be at peace no i am at peace in many ways he surpasses all understanding thank you um which growing up i always thought meant like everyone understood it because i was like doing a test at school pass means like correct so it's like yeah true it is an unusual phrase yeah i don't know if getting into a book of common prayer um idioms is strictly amadale but um i did always get confused by and we are not worthy so much as to gather the crumbs under your table but you are the same lord whose nature is always to have mercy because
00:18:59
Speaker
you I do it as far as you are the same lord it's like you I'm not worthy but you are the same lord it's like I'm pretty sure he is she not anyway yeah i can link that to Charles there you go there's my link well actually it was interesting that Charles was not a counsellor but did just offer his house to host the counselling for reasons that were not clear Yeah, i really didn't understand why that had to be
Counseling Episode & Character Dynamics
00:19:23
Speaker
a plot point. I was like, there must be a reason that it all gets linked back to Charles at some point or that like there's something to do with his house and the fact it was there.
00:19:31
Speaker
But I don't think there will be now. I think it was just like done. It just needs to be somewhere. I guess they had to find... But emily we why couldn't be in their actual home? Yeah, I don't know. we had this special episode which turned out not to be particularly special. I don't think we'd have known it was a special episode if we weren't told that. It very special to me. where Dylan um April and Bear were all having deep meaningful chats with respectively Paddy, Rona and a counsellor who looked incredibly like comedian Mae Martin which is all I kept thinking i don't know who that is but great I thought she was really cool I was like I want to be her friend she seemed really cool and maybe she also seemed like a good actor so you know maybe we'll get her back yeah who's to say
00:20:17
Speaker
She seemed like she could be um the latest caller that's been in town. I'm just going to say it. that's That's the vibe I got from her. Are you just getting that because she had short hair? It was cool.
00:20:30
Speaker
would she like to you Would you like to edit this podcast? or you yeah I'm going to leave it in because it's ah a neutral observation. i Okay, cool. I feel like it's neither neither a negative nor a positive thing that she seems like a cool new lesbian. Okay, great.
00:20:49
Speaker
And we do love to see it. after yeah Do we have any um lesbians in the cast at the moment? trying I mean, Mary. ah Mary, that's true. She's bit young for dating Mary.
00:21:00
Speaker
Charity and Vanessa. No, Vanessa is lesbian, not just bisexual, I think. I can't remember. bring in Bring in the psychologist. She can date Vanessa. Give Vanessa something to do Yeah, true.
00:21:12
Speaker
She hasn't had much on her plate other than when she was sort spiralling about Charity's baby. She seems to have forgotten about that slash doesn't care. Everyone seems have forgotten about that. Which is just as well. It's really nice to Sarah to finally have something else to talk about than vitamins.
00:21:26
Speaker
That's true. Given her, yeah, her granddad's cancer, it must be something of a welcome break from the vitamine obsession. Last of camera. Also, I'm sure that Charity's been pregnant for a year and a half at this point. It's endless. You do say that every time we record a podcast. It's always longer into the future.
00:21:46
Speaker
It's always more time. Yeah, I don't know when she's meant to have that baby. In Soaps slash Emmerdale, do people normally actually, are they normally pregnant for nine months? or Well, I think they quite often do the thing where we just find out very late that someone's pregnant, so they only have to be pregnant. too The storyline only has to last like three months or whatever. or That makes sense. Or potentially no months if they do don't reveal they're pregnant before they give birth.
00:22:10
Speaker
And then we don't have to think about the pregnancy for as long. Yeah, and I've got nothing against thinking about pregnancy, of course, but i just have been thinking about this for entire life. Night and day, you think about pregnancy. I'm always thinking, just in the abstract, what's up with pregnancy? Actually, now thinking about that. What is up with pregnancy?
00:22:28
Speaker
Now that we're talking about it, what the heck is going on with pregnancy?
Vic's House Future & Character Retcons
00:22:31
Speaker
Well, you're asking the wrong woman. If anyone wants to get in touch and tell me what's up with pregnancy, dinglealltheway.com.
00:22:42
Speaker
Big questions. Another big question I have. Who's going to live in Vic's house now? ah that's good question. I think someone will inevitably move in there soon. It has just been her, hasn't it, for a while? Yeah, and the boy whose name, I can't remember, Harry? Yes, sweet Harry. um yeah true. is Well, if they're going to force Graham out of home farm, maybe Graham will move in there. Yeah, true. I guess that'd be a big fall from Grace from him. Yes. I don't know who owns it, if Victoria owns it. Well, I think actually, is that the house? There was a house that Victoria inherited from Betty. Maybe it was that one. Oh, yeah, maybe. Maybe it would just be unoccupied for a bit.
00:23:18
Speaker
There was some really good... Oh, no, you... Okay, this is a thing we normally get. On the Victoria thing, there's a really good scene or two with Robert I thought was so moving um and done really well. where Basically where Victoria's like, why are you doing all these weird things, Robert? I didn't ask you to. And Robert being like, I'm always looking out for you. And he had i thought it was really well written as well. He had lines, the exact wording, but it' something like, I always choose you and you never choose me. And I thought that was so so heartbreaking because he does make stupid decisions, but they do come
00:23:51
Speaker
well, in terms of like planting blackmail material, not blackmail material, like incriminating material, probably a poor choice. But it was done out of Love for Victoria. And it is right that, it is true that she's never particularly grateful when he does things for her again because they're often stupid things but but I thought it was such a moving scene of his like I'm doing all these things I love you so much why do you hate me basically or why do you just treat me with disdain yeah yeah I'd forgotten about that as well but I felt the same and then Aaron I thought it really nice the scene of Aaron basically backing him up um talking to Vic about it separately and being like you know he's had a really hard life and that like that doesn't
00:24:31
Speaker
excuse the things that he's done but like as a backdrop he adores you he hasn't really had like a great experience of family i don't know i thought it was really nice and i did think that that might make her stay but i guess pregnancy is pregnancy you gotta flee the village we gotta yeah as discussed um it's yeah i mean and i hope she will come back i don't see any reason why she oh yeah surely she will yeah Oh, wouldn't it be so nice if, um what was his name?
00:25:02
Speaker
The other Sugden, not the other Sugden, the guy who she went out with for ages. Oh, Adam. Yeah. Wouldn't it be so nice if he came back? they should come back together. If they Portugal or something and back. It'd be so fun if she comes back and she's like, oh guys, I got secretly married while I was away. And then he comes through the door. Oh my gosh. I'd be so happy. I love them together.
00:25:22
Speaker
That'd be so good. It'd give Moira a moment's happiness that she has not had 20 years. Yeah, I know. It'd be so nice, wouldn't it? Yeah. Speaking of people who are never happy, Matty was obviously sad about the anniversary of his wife's um icy death. but Tell me that you're not going to shame him for being sad about his wife's death.
00:25:46
Speaker
I'm absolutely fine with him being sad about his wife's death. No problem there. But he did say, I'm not my usual cheery chappy self. You have never been cheerful. Like, I've never seen you be anything other than whiny. And like, sure, in this case, again, i understand why you're grieving your wife. but But he is always moping.
00:26:07
Speaker
And I find him quite tiresome. I guess, again, since we started watching, he mainly has like... Or he went to prison because he accidentally like hurt someone in like a transphobic attack against him.
00:26:24
Speaker
e And then he got out of prison and then his wife died. So I guess he hasn't had much time to be super cheery. I do get what you're saying. It's interesting to learn that he sees himself as a cheery chappie. That's true. It's like, what are you basing this on? that just That household, that farm just needs like one happy storyline next year. Just give them, or this year, or like just give them some something sunny.
Historic Feuds & Nostalgia in Emmerdale
00:26:54
Speaker
Yeah, it is cursed. It is so cursed. I mean, it's again, yet again, ask the question why Joe Tate is so obsessed with getting it because that farm is always on the brink of going under. Like it's when it's not like polluting the waterways, it is, you know, we know the back fence is constant state of disrepair for one thing. and That's the main thing they've got going on. Yeah, i is it like a historic Tate versus Sugden thing, which is why Joe's so obsessed with getting that field? Because i don't understand why he's so determined to bring everybody down for the sake of it.
00:27:27
Speaker
Yeah, it is baffling. And then obviously Rob Brun finding that sign in a field that was remarkably intact for having been underground for 30 years or something. Yeah, it looked brand new. And I did think that he was talking about the fact that like everyone used to touch it or something twice a day.
00:27:45
Speaker
kind of weird. And I thought, was that actually something that was in Emmerdale back in the day that we could go back and watch? Or did they just kind of like retcon that inn and we're expected to find it moving? Someone tell us. Because it yeah also just seemed like a weird, like, it seemed like a sign for this farm, but in the middle of a field rather than, ah you know, the entrance to the farm where you might expect to see it.
00:28:05
Speaker
i assumed it had sat like either embedded in a wall or like on top of a wall or something. I guess so. But if Robert's touching it twice a day on the way to school, presumably it is near a road. but Yeah. like Or like at least some sort of path. i mean, yeah.
00:28:20
Speaker
We don't even know if Emmerdale has a school, but maybe it did at some point. I think it did and it doesn't now. it does' and yeah I think we said before, it does explain the educational standards of the children of Emmerdale.
00:28:32
Speaker
Bless them all. um Yeah, that was quite strange. I think we were meant to find it very moving that he'd found that sign, but actually I didn't.
Cultural References & Absurd Plots
00:28:41
Speaker
No, I mean, I found it quite moving that they were coming together and like sharing a little moment together. the the fact that it was around farming, I think,
00:28:48
Speaker
means a lot to people who've seen the Sogdon's be farmers for decades but yeah those people are not us sadly not um I also in the Matty ti in the Matty Cheery Chappie scene there was ah something I really enjoyed from Kane I think in reference to Matty having done some work Kane said what do you want a Pride of Britain award and that is a line that I will be taking in my day-to-day life think what sort of when you with the staff that you manage or Yeah, you've keep them in their place, I suppose.
00:29:16
Speaker
I think I'm basically like almost lowest in the pecking order at my work, but it would still be quite funny if one of my superiors was like, so I've been working on this project this week, like well, would you want a Pride of Britain award? And my boss.
00:29:32
Speaker
Yeah, in some ways it's funnier to do it to someone in a position to fire you. It's good to play with fire. It's good to play with fire if you learn one thing. um Curiously on the Cain storyline, I've just written down Sarah's Lovely Solution, but I don't know what Sarah's Lovely Solution was. Do you remember what that was? Sounds like chapter heading in a children's book. Is it about stealing the car?
00:29:52
Speaker
Yes, it was about stealing the car. Well done. they're like Because it wasn't the specific car at that point when she was just like, I know what would cheer you up. Petty crimes. And the lovely thing is that it really did cheer him up. like At the end, he was sort of a bit cheeky again.
00:30:08
Speaker
they put a pep in his step didn't they and you think he's a simple man and he just really likes stealing cars i did in this particular case just taking them a few miles away and if you're gonna i mean i haven't stolen cars myself personally speaking but i would you go for one that was quite so distinctive yeah i literally wrote that i said it's a very
Back to the Future's Classic Status
00:30:29
Speaker
distinctive car to steal and then expect to go unnoticed e.g if you're trying to sell it what about when people want to take it on test drives were you Did you recognise the DeLorean when it came into the village? Yeah.
00:30:41
Speaker
Did you know i i didn't I have seen Back to Future once and i can get onto my hot takes about Back to the Future in a minute. but i might not want to hear them, but I love that film.
00:30:52
Speaker
Yeah, everyone does seem to. And my question to you and to all those people is why do you love... a film about a man whose mother like tries to crack onto him. Because it's not necessarily incest.
00:31:09
Speaker
but See, if for me, if you have to say that, that's already crossed the to what don want to watch it i think the fact that that happens is so crazy. like It's not saying like this would be great. It's saying like this must be avoided at all costs. That's the premise of the film.
00:31:27
Speaker
Yeah, I just... It's my brother's radio film and I love referring to it as incest drama Back to the Future. You're doing what people do when they see stuff in the Bible that's deeply unpleasant and they say Christians love it when people mistreat each other and you're like no just because in the Bible doesn't mean God thinks it's a good thing.
00:31:45
Speaker
That's how I feel about Back to the Future. Well, you've got me over a barrel there. Thank you. I have seen all three because Colin loves them so much and I don't care for them personally.
Humorous Podcast Moments
00:31:56
Speaker
Well, that's fine. You do care for Colin and I believe you care for me.
00:32:00
Speaker
I do very much care for both of you. ah But say yes, for me, when that car came through, i was just like, what? And Cami and come in um Lewis, not Lewis, who was it? Vinny was there, wasn't it? Yes, we were so excited to see this car. For me, it was just like, that's a horrible old car. Why are they excited to see it? What is going on? I think um the best thing that I've seen maybe ever is when someone asked whose car it was and Cammy did an impression of Joe Tate going, it's Joe Tate's. It was such a bad impression.
00:32:34
Speaker
It was so brilliant. i enjoyed it. I thought Ross actually did a pretty good impression of him when... um You know when Joe was in the cafe and he was like, you know, it's actually Lucas that you're hurting. And then Ross was like, yeah, someone needs to think of the millionaire children. yeah so he was much better at it. He's a very good impression. I think he's done a few over the years. and And he's just so funny.
00:32:57
Speaker
But um my favourite thing, obviously, in this DeLorean storyline, which was in real life. Of course, Manpreet. You're obsessed. Manpreet, A, knowing all about cars.
00:33:09
Speaker
b little crush on cami and vice versa we don't like so i was trying to remember was that someone that we did a prediction on um no ah were i think maybe i said that or someone said that we thought it'd be fun to find someone but i can't remember if we said cami or not maybe we said cami i'm sure i mentioned cami because we love cami but um i don't think it's who i settled on but can't remember did settle on Maybe it was Ross. don't know they had their one night stand.
00:33:37
Speaker
Maybe not. I don't know. I just want her to have to be in the center of the show, as you know. um ah But I loved it when he was just like, can we date? No, really. And then just had a reaction of like, little wink sort of thing.
00:33:52
Speaker
And then slightly odd when she was like bro-ing out with them all in the cafe. it must be like, I don't know what. Yeah, that was quite random, but. Is she part of the gang now? She's obviously just hoping for something and she's like, maybe if I hang around with these people, it will happen.
00:34:06
Speaker
And I did write, do I ship Kami and Manpreet now? And the answer might be yes.
Joe Tate's Contradictory Nature
00:34:10
Speaker
Yeah, I think I can see it maybe happening. But I know. She could teach him some things, I'm sure. same or Like medicine or.
00:34:19
Speaker
yeah medicine although we know that camille is an observing muslim and i'm wondering how far that goes re sleeping around well he did sleep this era so yeah it might be one of those things that does happen in soaps when they have muslim characters or a characters of any faith where they do do pick and choose the things they want to to include yeah i mean famously charles the vicar you was having sex with laurel at one point and you think interesting Yeah.
00:34:47
Speaker
um But I guess he must be observing Ramadan at the moment, which remember one of the first things he did must be in a year now because he was talking about Ramadan when he joined. wise Talking about Ramadan. So let's let's keep a watchful eye on that.
00:35:03
Speaker
Happy days. Funny. um I guess there's a little film discussion and it was Ross Loves the Breakfast Club. know want to hear my hot take on the breakfast club. I don't really know what that film is, but I would love to hear your hot take on it. And I'm sure there are people listening who do know what the breakfast club is.
00:35:20
Speaker
Yes, I'm quite shocked you don't actually. I mean, we're both, both of us, in myself included, too young to have watched it when it first came out because i think it came out. when you were not born and I was maybe like one. But um it's about a bunch of kids in detention, which as far as I can tell happens after school. So I'm not sure why it's called The Breakfast Club. But um it's the sort of mid 80s teen thing where teenagers just like soliloquy, or I guess there are other people there, but they like, they talk for about 10 minutes about their history and in a very moving way and take it in turns to do that. And it's all very poignant and not at realistic. And I find it quite annoying, but it is well beloved by Angs.
00:35:58
Speaker
And apparently Ross, who I think the actor who plays Ross is like maybe my age or a couple years younger or something. So he wouldn't have watched it when it came out. But I guess at some point he developed a fondness for John Hughes romantic comedy stylings.
00:36:18
Speaker
What other films are they talking about? Did they draw about Indiana Jones? No, I don't know. I don't know. I guess the main thing that was going on in that scene was um that Vinnie and Lewis were having moments.
00:36:32
Speaker
where I did obviously enjoy Camille and Ross um cheering that on. I i don't particularly cheer it myself. As discussed, we prefer them as friends than as boyfriends.
00:36:43
Speaker
um I guess we'll just find out what happens. does seem the tide is going against us. The main thing that I did enjoy was that Lewis's idea of let's go wild means watching TV and eating lasagna at home.
00:36:56
Speaker
Which sounds like an amazing evening. Yeah. And actually the day that i watched that episode, I, my friend Bryony asked me over for dinner and she made lasagna.
00:37:07
Speaker
and I was like, I'm going wild. Basically. She's having a crazy night out. I know she is completely mental. Yeah. watch this space for you two becoming an item I suppose it apparently is a foregone conclusion I should have known that before um of course the
Graham's Character Exploration
00:37:27
Speaker
back the future thing ties into Joe Tate's story where he watches it with one of the children I forget the name of child Lucas thank you yes Lucas and we seem to have like retconned that he's an amazing stepdad
00:37:44
Speaker
I know, and I know it's completely farcical, but i love it. It's so cute. It was the only scene, like the scene where, well, actually the scene where he thought that Dawn might be pregnant and when he's talking about being a stepdad.
00:37:56
Speaker
it was the first time I've liked Joe Tate I think since since he came back you know I'm finding it incredibly hard to reconcile like that side of him with ah when he's like just really merciless and doesn't care about throwing Moira under the bus for human trafficking and that kind of thing and I know that that's I think what the writers are trying to do is be like look at these two completely different sides of this person but I think they're just pushing it too far in the like they're actually not compatible they're just not And also, he's not a good stepdad. Like, he told Clemmie that he was going to get her taken away less than a year ago. That is true. He doesn't seem to care. I realise I love this, but do you? you Have you spent any time with anything before this? Has he ever set eyes on Evan? Has anybody? Is Evan still in the hospital? No. Well, we learned in a sort of throwaway line, Evan's fine now. They've cured his leukemia completely and he's fine.
00:38:56
Speaker
Don't worry yeah about it. Yeah. We must celebrate this thing that we has been top of mind, but I just haven't mentioned on screen. Which, you know, of course, you can't have you know her talking about it nothing else all the time to make it interesting. But, yeah, I don't know.
00:39:13
Speaker
Yeah. I am interested in the, like, Dawn and Jo getting married, having children thing. Because i feel like, will they actually stay together? I don't know. at the moment, it all seems lovely, good for them. But I can't imagine it lasting more than like another 18 months.
00:39:33
Speaker
No, and i do' we don't need another pregnancy storyline. There's there's enough going on with existing pregnancy storyline. No.
00:39:42
Speaker
Yeah, also amazing that she wants to add yet another child into the mix because she's just discovered what it is to go to Paris and look great. It's true. Yeah. And like, obviously she lives in this massive house now, but that's a bit precarious.
00:39:56
Speaker
She suddenly has to move in Victoria's where she's going to put all these children. True. Just have to fill the cupboards with them in a way. yeah um I'm quite confused by Graham because he seems to flip flop between like trying to tell Joe that he's a terrible person, that he needs to change his ways and then like giving up and kind of getting on board with all the evilness.
00:40:17
Speaker
Yeah, and it's hard to know what his emotional state is because of the way he speaks. Is that an impression
Graham & Rona's Relationship
00:40:26
Speaker
of him? It wasn't, it was just me thinking actually. but um Because the way...
00:40:33
Speaker
And I did describe him in my notes of sentient gravel, which I'm quite pleased with as a description. Yeah, that's actually so good. I really like that. It's quite hard to ah to to watch a scene with him in. I said that last episode as well, but he's he's so weird in the way he delivers all his lines. He is the definition of a tough watch. But actually, the only thing that has endeared me to Graham or endeared Graham to me, I suppose.
00:41:00
Speaker
I don't know whether the Graham finds me endearing personally. He's obsessed. And I can't blame him. No, the one thing I found endearing about Graham is that he was listening to 4A's Requiem in the kitchen the other day. Okay.
00:41:14
Speaker
So that was really nice. That is lovely for him. um And for me. And for you, I don't know if that's enough to get me on side. but I just think it's a great piece of music. I respect him for enjoying it.
00:41:27
Speaker
He does seem like he would like classical music. I get i will give him that. Yeah. um It's just so unusual to me that Graham is still living there when Kim actively doesn't want him there.
00:41:40
Speaker
Dawn doesn't seem to want him there. Gabby doesn't seem to know particularly who he is and And Joe seems to blow hot and cold on whether he likes him. And yet he's still like, yeah, I'm going to stay here. This is where I live now. Wouldn't you feel so uncomfortable moving in somewhere knowing that like the large proportion of the people who live there don't want you there?
00:42:02
Speaker
Yeah, and for no obvious reason, because you can continue this strange faux paternal relationship you've got if you live like two doors down, or indeed anywhere else. like I've got an actual paternal relationship with my dad, who does not live in my house. It is possible as an adult to not live for your parents. I think maybe Graham should live in Vic's house somehow.
00:42:23
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, ideally I'd like him to live... in a different country but um if we a ideally i'd like him to go back to being dead yeah i do miss when he was dead um i think he might be my least favorite character already but um sorry i know people loving having him here but what really annoyed me is when he decided to just go and tell rona that he loved uh yeah i know and marlon's response was impeccable
Scriptwriting & Relationships
00:42:49
Speaker
yeah i liked how he was not angry at rona angry with graham
00:42:54
Speaker
Very realistic about his chances of actually succeeding in the violence. When Brina was like, did you fight? He like, am I dead? Do I look like we fought? Because if they actually came down to it, Marlowe would last eight seconds. Yeah. Absolute maximum.
00:43:10
Speaker
But yeah, it was quite strange when, yeah, Joe just being like... yeah you should tell people how they feel which is unusual coming from him I'm not sure he's ever told anybody how he feels about anything and then Graham was like oh yeah okay sure confesses undying love for a married woman don't do that it's like that episode of Friends where Ross tells Rachel that he loves her just because he said thinks it's nice to tell people it's like no it's not if you think it's going to upset them keep it to yourself Yeah, or if you just realise like nothing good could come of this.
00:43:44
Speaker
don't know. What's the point? Yeah. Yeah, I did like his sweet little relationship with Leo. And the actor who playing Leo did seem to generally love that man. Because I yeah yeah i don't think he is particularly faking when he is nice to you. And he doesn't often respond to people in the show. Whereas he did respond to Graham. So they obviously got a lovely rapport between them, which was nice. I guess because they worked together quite a lot before. Yeah. And have like a known quantity there.
00:44:11
Speaker
And we got a little bit more sign language slash Macaton in. Yeah, we'd love to see it. Did you understand any of it? Well, I knew sorry. So that was one of the first things we learned was sorry again slowly. it's That's nice. Which is a useful one.
00:44:28
Speaker
And at home, I recognize, think we did that. Yeah, so basically fluent. Yeah, you are pretty fluent now. I'm very impressed with you, actually. is it another line i loved this means a very sharp writing it's some funny writing in the last couple weeks where um marlon came up to like yell at graham and someone said is anyone expecting marlon and kim said hardly which i thought that was great like kim is so much better when she's being in like comedy mode and so i want i want some but that yeah i really like him i feel like we haven't seen her much recently
00:45:02
Speaker
No, she had that weird time when she was away in business and all her lines were given to Jo, but um yeah. Yeah. We did get some Lydia content this last couple of weeks. I don't remember what, but remember seeing her.
00:45:13
Speaker
yes i was going to say remind me, but you also don't seem to remember. Was she sort of dropping stews around for Mandy or something? Oh yeah, and Mandy's back from the jungle. Mandy's back from the jungle um and getting all all up in e everyone's grill.
Character Shifts & Humor in Emmerdale
00:45:25
Speaker
Yeah, she does love to do that.
00:45:28
Speaker
I'm really glad that um Dylan threatening to leave was just a plot device. Yes, I didn't think he would, to be honest. No, neither did I, but I was like, oh great, that's really annoying. But um it made me realise, when Dylan first came to the like the village and was included in Emmerdale at all, I was bit like, oh, just another teenager.
00:45:47
Speaker
Boring. But he's really grown on me. I realised I didn't want him to leave when he was starting to leave. And I really like the relationship he's got with Paddy and Mandy. I think it's sweet. Me too. Yeah. And I mean, Paddy does throw around like he's like a son to me as sort of just like a greeting. vi but um Say it to literally anything. He said it to a rock last week. yeah He said it to sentient gravel. um but But it it it feels genuine here. And I'm hoping we'll have him around for a while. I'm sure he, Dylan and um April will sort of fade into the background for a while, having had such a
00:46:20
Speaker
such a long storyline i think everyone agrees that story was too long but um yeah but yeah they'll they'll be in the background for a bit but hopefully around for a while and you know what let's just let's not have a young pregnancy storyline let's do something else with them please give everyone a break from a pregnancy storyline can we just have like a moratorium on pregnancy and cancer Yes, particularly since, as noted, we need to get to the bottom of what pregnancy is. We haven't done that yet. I know, he knows what it is. Why are you putting it into all the storylines?
00:46:53
Speaker
Oh um um I'm down just few strays, I think. was about say, oh all I've got left is strays. So in sync. My first one is that after really trying to hash out and not really getting anywhere in our last episode, it would appear that Gabby does work at the Hyde.
00:47:11
Speaker
Yes, she does. And um it really doesn't seem to be fit the whole businesswoman thing because she doesn't like that hide is poorly run, if run at all, I think. Yeah. um And didn't love the random storyline with like Arthur and wanting to run away, wanting to go to aus Australia that kind of thing. But it was really nice to see Gabby and Laurel hanging out.
00:47:34
Speaker
That was nice. Because we have said before that Laurel used to be like a mother to her and now they barely speak. um But yeah, it was nice that they were spending time together, giving each other advice, friendly words.
00:47:46
Speaker
Yeah. And one of my little strays was about the beginning of the whatever storyline beginning with Arthur. And I wrote down initially Arthur's had a personality transplant and then realised he didn't really have a personality before. But he was like a normal, quite kind boy. Yeah. And now he's just very angry.
00:48:03
Speaker
am Gosh what a legacy Rayleigh's even when he just like glances at someone briefly it transformed their personality and I know we don't agree on this but i do I do find it hard to watch him in any scene because I hate those glasses so much I knew you would wear glasses It's just like I can't I can't watch this and that's something that they should respect and not have not put me through.
Psychic Predictions & Cast Friendships
00:48:27
Speaker
if he stops cosplaying as Alistair from As Time Goes By, will enjoy the story. Nobody in this world knows what you're talking about. There's going to be one person listening who loves that reference. I think there's going be even fewer people who love that reference as people they were who understood when you were about the Book of Common Prayer. Yeah.
00:48:46
Speaker
Are my references entirely those of non-agenarian women? Yes. Yes, they are. And we love you for it. But we don't claim to understand it. I would say to anyone watching, sorry, listening, but... I hope no one's watching. I hope no one's watching, heavens. Who's watching? Google Alistair as time goes by, if you don't know him, and you will think, gosh, I'm looking at Arthur.
00:49:15
Speaker
lizz We've got some live Googling happening here. Again, we're not cutting any of this. So i just have to like fill space. No, I actually really do see what you're saying. Right, right. Okay, maybe we should put him as the um the cover artwork for this episode.
00:49:31
Speaker
Him next to a photo of... Do want me to do that? I can do a little mock-up. I mean i love them not editing it but we we are going to like spend some time doing that it will take me about five minutes okay I mean if you don't mind us breaking whatever copyright is on a picture of them either of them I can't imagine the yes time goes by intellectual property lawyers are very busy nowadays I very much doubt it um do you have another stray i loved Yes, I loved that Mary and Kim were chatting like friends again because we talked about, we we didn't watch it, was before our time, but when Mary first came out, she came out to Kim and we've not seen any sign of that friendship. But the chat they had, and I can't remember exactly what it was about, But it was done like their old friends, which I enjoyed. So maybe we're going to see a bit more of that.
00:50:18
Speaker
that was nice Yeah, that would be nice. i actually kind of didn't really take that in or register that it was happening. So i'm glad that you brought that up. um My next thing is, has anything ever looked more fake than the staircase in Home Farm?
00:50:31
Speaker
It leads nowhere. It leads nowhere and it looks like it's made out of like glitter glue or something. Glitter glue and balsa wood. It's just like so lightweight. Like if any of the home farm residents put on a tiny bit of weight, I fear it would crumble under them. That's why Dawn needs to not get pregnant. Those stairs won't support pregnant women. and Like if any of the children leaned on the banisters, they would just topple straight over.
00:51:00
Speaker
Yeah, that's funny. m yeah i really enjoyed when Ruby We haven't really talked about Ruby's confession to Kane, but who cares? I love Ruby. Well, love ruby I love Beth accordingly.
00:51:16
Speaker
Yeah, we love Beth. Yeah, the... the moment this is not my story but i'll mention it the moment where she said like well well if someone was it came said i'll never forgive you or she said will you ever forgive me it's like he's obviously going to forgive you by the end of the week as it happened it was by the end of the next episode say yeah um that yeah that was interesting that i i did like that she and caleb had no idea who owned that field and like they're just like we're just not interested in knowing who's like this is And like, who why should they be?
00:51:45
Speaker
She'd never been on a walk before, for goodness sake. Exactly, that's true. um Yeah, none of these are strays. I'm just so getting around to the wish it the actual thing it was, which is when she walked in to announce that, she said, oh, it looks like a bomb's gone off. And there were like two envelopes on the table and maybe like a bowl in the sink.
00:52:04
Speaker
Again, if people... The people who were trying to set up Paddy and Mandy's place as if they're having a meltdown saw my actual living conditions. I think even that room is normally messier because it's like, you know, busy working farmers, lots of children. Yeah. It will look messy, but I guess maybe it's compared to her very like pristine life where she probably gets Lydia and to clean like morning and afternoon every day or something. Yeah, probably.
00:52:30
Speaker
um I did really enjoy, while we're talking about Ruby, after like borderline harassing Bear in the last two weeks, she was really great with him by the end of this. and like That's true. I thought they were really heartwarming scenes and when he was like, you know, it's fancy coffees, don't And she's like, oh yeah, I do. And he was like, well, we don't have any.
00:52:48
Speaker
And then she laughed. they Yeah, I liked how her response to it. That was very sweet. i like yeah I'm hoping we see more of that Bear, which maybe is what his personality is We just don't know. Yeah, who's to say?
00:53:00
Speaker
do you have any more stories um yeah final one which is um retrospective success of psychic corner or prophetic corner depending what we're calling it is that um matty was drinking a coffee and then he like threw the rest of it away in outrage and i thought i think that's because of us we said well i said because you didn't really care but it was for some reason my hobby horse um that when they have a drink it's really obvious that there's nothing in the cup and I just thought I think that was because of me I think they were listening and they were like oh you know what they can tell the cups are empty love it yeah we've noticed I've noticed it like three times but every time I see it I'm like wow
00:53:40
Speaker
That's probably us, possibly. Probably. probably want that. My final stray is just a loved Cammie trying and failing to make coffees.
00:53:51
Speaker
mcwi Yeah, it was sweet, wasn't it? Getting scared of the steam wand. I just love Cammie. I do adore Cammie. I hope we meet him on the Star Tour. I hope so. Well, my ranking is number one Manpreet. That's who I want to meet.
00:54:09
Speaker
don't know if she'll believe me when I'm like, I want you to be the main character in the show. Things will think I'm sarcastic, but I'm not. I want to meet Beth Gordyn Lee so much.
00:54:21
Speaker
We're just going to go to every single star tour until we meet them. We're going to bankrupt ourselves. like I just think we would probably be best friends. Yeah, of all the hypothetical friendships slash romances you've made with cast members, I think that's the most likely.
00:54:35
Speaker
Thank you. I don't know if i appreciate you saying that. Look, sometimes you're really cruel to be kind. You certainly do follow that. I've not got around to the kind bit yet. One day. day. Whereas I know that Michael Hart doesn't want to be friends with me, but I think maybe...
00:54:58
Speaker
I can't actually remember the name of the actress who plays Mampree. Rebecca Sarker. um I also think she wouldn't want to be friends with me, but I think she'd pretend better. think you don't think anybody wants to be friends with you. You're wrong. We don't have time to get into that right now because that that's something I clean the therapy for.
Minimal Character Presence & Farm Content
00:55:19
Speaker
um we We do need to stop using this podcast as therapy.
00:55:23
Speaker
it's Simply making things worse. Can you imagine? It's like a therapy podcaster. It's just like baring our souls and then like a few hundred people listening.
00:55:34
Speaker
Yeah. And they're like, they haven't mentioned Emmerdale today. They're talking a lot about like childhood trauma unrelated to the show. i don't think i There is a lot of childhood trauma in Emmerdale, so... that's true maybe we should um find out where our own matches up because i mean i did once have my relative die in a helicopter crash on the village hall no sorry that didn't happen that was like you've never mentioned this before
00:55:57
Speaker
that was just the old ed but um there we go well shoot it seems to straight should we do our character what we think they bring to the show random character pick let me do this our random character is ah it's not to late long it is dotty thomas um
00:56:18
Speaker
I think she hung a Christmas decoration on the tree when Ray was there this year yeah and I think that was a scene that I missed whilst was fast forwarding Ray's storyline so I don't think i've I've never seen Dottie far as I know yeah she's just like always upstairs I guess yeah um right well that's Dottie some of them take longer than others but know hopefully if that's all we've got to say I mean i would like more storylines of Dottie when she's a bit older maybe we did find out at one point how old she was didn't we i don't know is Ashley her father surely not i think yes didn't he die ages ago
00:57:00
Speaker
Yes, but if maybe Dottie was still a baby. well I'll look it up. Dottie, well, she she has surname Thomas, which I guess is Laurel's surname intermittently. um Oh, she is very cute, a little two-year-old whatever in that picture. But she was she is now six, no, no okay sorry, ten, nine, nine. She's nine years old. Oh, she's nine. Gosh, I thought she was like two or three.
00:57:25
Speaker
Maybe you saw a different child hanging a Christmas decoration. um she is indeed Ashley's son daughter. storyline. Yeah, probably.
00:57:37
Speaker
um okay cool so if she's if she's nine then i guess it's probably a good another like five years before she starts getting sorry i say yeah please Great.
00:57:51
Speaker
Well, great thanks for all you bring to the show, Dottie. Has there been any farming content apart from like finding some random sign in a field? Yeah, they've certainly been on the farm at various points, walking around the farm.
00:58:04
Speaker
I like that the outdoors of butlers is being used. I've said that probably in the last two episodes already. But yeah, I don't. Aaron went to find both Victoria and then Robert in a field to talk to both them at different times.
00:58:17
Speaker
Yeah, true. And I think that's about it.
00:58:24
Speaker
Great. There we go. Which is curious because it is calving season right now. is it? So you would think that Kane would be a lot more stressed than he is about the fact that Moira's in prison and he's really busy. He does seem pretty stressed about that.
00:58:43
Speaker
But like he's not actually helping any cows to but give birth. i haven't seen any. Well, because he does do a lot of work on the farm, despite, as far as I know, not being a farmer. Like, does he know does he know how to do anything on a farm?
00:58:55
Speaker
think if you're married to a farmer, you probably do just work out. I guess so mean, I don't know if I'd want to just do some amateur carving. but Yeah, I mean, cows, from what I've gleaned, seem to sort of be able to sort themselves out more often than not.
00:59:13
Speaker
Sheep are harder. Well, sheep get it wrong more. Well, bless them. Yeah, they're idiots.
00:59:20
Speaker
and My dad's carved cows in the past, say so something to cling on cling on to I guess, is a big part of it. ah I feel like we can't end on that. But what else is there to say?
00:59:35
Speaker
don't know. um Just I really hope that things get a bit better soon because it's all really bleak and it's losing interest.
Light-hearted Storylines & Podcast Wrap-up
00:59:48
Speaker
There are some fun episodes we've had recently, or thrown moments. I've enjoyed, like yeah as we mentioned, all the stuff with Manpreet in the car and the the boys or all doing their films. This romance storyline that's starting.
01:00:00
Speaker
We may not want them to get together, but it's nice to have a bit that. Let's have more of that. Some more fun things. everything think what is on the horizon is a workplace bullying storyline, which is probably not going to be fun. but I just don't really understand how, after the last so year...
01:00:13
Speaker
of all Emmerdale fans ever just being like, this is too bleak and we need a bit more lightness. They're like, cool, the next big storyline we're going to bring in is going be workplace bullying. It's not light. listened to an episode on a podcast called This Is Media City with a guy whose name I can't remember, but he's the head of serial drama ITV. So basically Coronation Street and Emmerdale. And he kept talking about how Coronation Street is very down to earth and Emmerdale is very gothic.
01:00:41
Speaker
And I was like, is this it? And also make it more down to earth. Gothic in what sense? I think just means ridiculous. Because he was like, like he was on Hollyoaks at some point, which obviously isn't ITV, but he was saying like they do the serial killer, like missing evil twins sort of thing. Coronation Street is like someone's made a trifle. And then like Emmerdale is like the halfway point of both. It's like, oh, is it?
01:01:02
Speaker
Is that your view, vision for Are we watching the wrong Should we start watching Coronation Street? Like, I'd love to see someone make a trifle. It was the only time I've ever thought, should I be watching Coronation Street instead? Yeah. But what I'd actually like is a bit more of that groundedness in Edmardale.
01:01:18
Speaker
Yeah, surely they'll start listening to us soon. They'll listen to us about the hot drinks. Yeah, so that's step one.
01:01:27
Speaker
Well, you know, how we'll know that they've listened to us is when we see Jimmy's psychological paralysis storyline begin to play out. she And I'm sure that is an inevitability at this stage.
01:01:38
Speaker
Yeah, if I mentioned it in December, then they'll have started filming that day, I suspect. And so we'll see it on screen in April. I think we talked about it like on New Year's Eve or Okay, I guess... Let's all go back into work.
01:01:53
Speaker
I guess if they film it six weeks ahead, then they need to write the scripts a bit ahead. So maybe we won't see it until like July, but it's it's a coming. I'm sure it's coming. Maybe we'll get to meet Jimmy on this on the tour and you can be like, have you ever considered psychological paralysis storyline?
01:02:06
Speaker
Yeah. Maybe if it is him, I'll just pretend that storyline is playing out on screen as we watch as we speak. And I'll just be like, I'm loving your work in that storyline. And he'll be so confused that he'll just start acting it. Yeah. Or just sort of out of gaslighting more than anything else. Yeah, just the next episode, he'll just be in a wheelchair. And they'll be like, Jimmy, what's going on? He won't be able to get out.
01:02:27
Speaker
Maybe I'll give the actor psychological paralysis. That'd be sad, wouldn't it? It sounds unwise as a strategy. Oh, dear. I like this out of it. um well there we go should just sort of leave it there yeah thanks everyone for listening I hope it hasn't been too painful well if you're like if you if you are listening and think I cannot tell the difference between this and an edited episode which is entirely legitimate then yeah then let us know because it does take about like two hours to edit each episode and if no one can even tell then maybe we'll just stop bothering and if you can drastically tell then you probably didn't get to the end of the episode yeah true I guess we'll never find out
01:03:08
Speaker
Do let us know, anything you'd like to let us know, dinglealltheway.pod at gmail.com. had a lovely another email email from Rachel. Thank you, Rachel. And and you can find us on Instagram, dinglealltheway.pod.
01:03:20
Speaker
You can. And yeah, we'll chat to you again in two weeks time. Bye. Bye.