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Are sheep an aphrodisiac? (Emmerdale 23rd February - 6th March 2026)
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It's been a curious time in Emmerdale village - whilst an awful lot has been going on, there also seems to have been no real narrative progress in the last two weeks, but we still found a way to talk for over an hour about whether or not Joe Tate now has a side parting, why Lewis and Vinny's first kiss had to be quite so public, and which members of the Emmerdale cast Simon could win a fight against (not many).
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Overview
00:00:01
lizzue
Hello and welcome to another episode of Dingle All The Way, I'm Lizzie and once again we are reviewing the last two weeks of what's been going on in Emmerdale, our highs, our lows, I will say probably mainly lows um given how we've been finding it recently um but I think, well we were literally just saying We feel like after saying that for weeks and weeks, Emmerdale has got a bit samey in a very depressing
00:00:06
simonthomas
I'm Simon.
The Importance of Major Storylines
00:00:31
lizzue
way.
00:00:31
lizzue
Maybe it's turning a corner. More things seem to be happening. So hopefully we'll be ah picking things up more and more.
00:00:38
simonthomas
Yeah, just because I feel like most of the time you just need one major storyline or maybe like a handful of minor storylines to get you through if this if it's a boring period. And I feel like for a while we haven't even had those.
00:00:49
simonthomas
Whereas now there are some storylines that I'm invested in and finding interesting. this and good act Well, to be fair, there was always good acting, even in the storylines I found boring. but um
00:00:59
lizzue
Yeah.
00:00:59
simonthomas
But yeah, it's hopefully, as you say, turned a corner and... I mean, people are still listening to the podcast, I guess.
00:01:07
lizzue
For some reason.
00:01:07
simonthomas
So they they obviously don't mind tuning into us and being like, what even is this show? But now we can be more like, yay, Emida.
00:01:15
lizzue
We watched it and we didn't hate it. Yay!
00:01:20
simonthomas
Oh, can't imagine why the PR team aren't more keen to get us involved in
00:01:24
lizzue
Yeah, it is crazy to me, actually.
00:01:27
simonthomas
It's one of my sorrowful mysteries. Yeah.
Key Emmerdale Storylines: Health and Conflict
00:01:31
lizzue
um What do you think are our big storylines to talk through at the moment? I guess we've got Kane's health is kind of rumbling on.
00:01:41
simonthomas
Yeah, there's ah there's a whole like um Laurel falling over situation turned out to be surprisingly big.
00:01:48
lizzue
Yep. um There's sort of, I guess, linked to the Kane stuff is all the Joe Tate stuff, isn't it? And then it feels like we're mercifully perhaps coming to the end of the sort of Ray Bear Paddy situation.
00:01:55
simonthomas
Yes.
00:02:01
lizzue
But we'll see.
00:02:03
simonthomas
Yeah, I mean, i part of me feels that will only come to an end with the natural deaths of the cast involved, because there is... It just rumbles on. there he's His only hobbies are being trapped and escaping.
00:02:18
simonthomas
It's all he does, day and night.
00:02:19
lizzue
It's literally relentless for him. And I kind of loved how quickly, like the moment Paddy mentioned him being sectioned and going into like a mental um institute, he was like, I'm packing my bags.
00:02:34
simonthomas
Yeah, and previously very reluctant to escape, like staying on that farm when she could easily have walked out at any time, whereas now he's really gone from one end of the spectrum to the other. It's the only way he knows how to leave a room is to escape.
00:02:44
lizzue
Yeah, I don't know whether...
00:02:48
lizzue
i don't know whether he's got Stockholm Syndrome or not. It's very difficult to tell.
00:02:53
simonthomas
Yeah, what's the opposite of Stockholm Syndrome where you're only comfortable whilst being kidnapped and you must get away from kind people? I guess that's not the
00:02:59
lizzue
Maybe
Humor and Cultural Stereotypes
00:03:00
simonthomas
opposite.
00:03:00
lizzue
like...
00:03:00
simonthomas
It's just a logical extension of Stockholm Syndrome.
00:03:03
lizzue
Australia Syndrome? is that Would you say that Australia is the opposite of Stockholm culturally?
00:03:08
simonthomas
I've never been to either, so sure.
00:03:10
lizzue
Neither have i I'm going off stereotypes.
00:03:14
simonthomas
Stockholm. Now, would we say that's in, i want to say Sweden.
00:03:17
lizzue
Yes, my friend Philip just got back from there.
00:03:18
simonthomas
Yes.
00:03:21
lizzue
It looked really icy and quite dignified.
00:03:21
simonthomas
Gracious.
00:03:25
simonthomas
Dignified. Yeah.
00:03:26
lizzue
And I was mainly going on climate rather than dignity when I chose Australia as the author.
00:03:30
simonthomas
yeah I think they'd be the first to say they're not dignified as a nation.
00:03:38
lizzue
Yeah, I mean, from the nation that came up with Foster's beer, it's difficult to draw a dignified conclusion from any of it.
00:03:45
simonthomas
Yeah, we love our Australian friends, of course, and wish them nothing but the best. Is my mic falling over?
00:03:50
lizzue
Oh, is a sort of protest vote from the microphone at our
Behind the Scenes: Podcast Creation
00:03:54
lizzue
blatant racism.
00:03:54
simonthomas
Yes, exactly. And if we are doing another episode where we're not editing anything, I guess that's just something that everyone's enjoyed.
00:03:59
lizzue
but Yeah, I think the reviews of the no edit episode was that nobody seemed to notice or care. so maybe I will stop spending two hours editing every episode.
00:04:12
lizzue
Well, every episode that i do we've done it 50-50, probably 60-40.
00:04:12
simonthomas
it
00:04:15
simonthomas
that's true yeah well hashtag this woman's work is never done but um
00:04:15
lizzue
You've done more than me.
00:04:20
lizzue
It is International Women's Day, so well done you.
00:04:23
simonthomas
Yes, thank you women everywhere for everything you do or don't do. um so you know I just you mean, you get very few female despots, is what I'm saying. So thank you for the restraint, re-despotism.
00:04:40
lizzue
You're so welcome. like
Realistic Rural Crisis and Sheep Rescue
00:04:41
lizzue
it It takes a lot to keep a lid on it.
00:04:41
simonthomas
yeah
00:04:43
lizzue
um I have been trying, trying hard
00:04:47
simonthomas
um well i mean this feel like what we're really saying is there hasn't been a super major storyline but um maybe we should start if this is okay with an actual rural crisis that is a genuine thing that could happen which is tree down in a storm in a farm
00:05:07
lizzue
I had completely forgotten that that happened but so true let's just jump the gun on our regular was there any farming content and say yes there was it was huge
00:05:18
simonthomas
100% there was there was actual like, ah part of me was like, I don't know what why they're so desperate to get the sheep out because the sheep are probably fine in there. But maybe they're worried that the whole roof would come in or something.
00:05:28
lizzue
I think that was the time pressure element. They were like, the barn has been crushed partially by a tree and we didn't build it strongly enough, I guess, for it to withstand that. So all the sheep will die Cain doesn't have a hero complex and get them out.
00:05:44
simonthomas
And when we compare that to like Moira having a brain tumor thing that makes her think that someone she killed the past is there, whilst they're trapped in a barn and she's, I forget, she's assaulting someone.
00:05:55
simonthomas
Nate, maybe, I don't know. That's unlikely to happen. Tree down on a farm, that happens.
00:06:00
lizzue
yeah that does happen yeah it was nice to see some real sheep it was nice to see barns I suppose um and it was a really unusual time for um what their names Vinnie and Lewis to have their first kiss like we just freed a load of sheep from death and now we're gonna kiss in front of everybody I will say like
00:06:00
simonthomas
So I like the verisimilitude. Yeah. Yeah.
00:06:10
simonthomas
the
00:06:28
simonthomas
Every single person.
00:06:30
lizzue
Why did they...
00:06:30
simonthomas
and a lot of sheep.
00:06:31
lizzue
yeah like It's like they didn't even 100% know that they liked each other, but they found out at the same time as Ross Barton.
00:06:43
simonthomas
Yeah, they were not being sheepish about it.
00:06:46
lizzue
Okay, he went there.
00:06:47
simonthomas
next of all They thought might as well be hang for a sheep as I am. Like, I've got more.
00:06:53
lizzue
Are you proud of yourself right now, or you um feeling the way I Yeah.
00:06:53
simonthomas
your i was it. it
00:06:58
simonthomas
i I didn't think sheepish was bad. i do recognise I should have stopped whilst I was at Ed.
00:07:04
lizzue
Yeah, it's good to be repentant, I think, at this stage um it's never
00:07:06
simonthomas
It was a good Lenten activity. But um yeah, and it was... and I have never thought about sheep running of a barn as an aphrodisiac, personally.
00:07:19
lizzue
it's It's never got me going in the way that it has for them. But I'm not one to, like, shame people for for things that they like.
00:07:23
simonthomas
It's their kink.
00:07:29
simonthomas
I think I probably am one to kink shame, if i'm if I can be totally honest with with myself. and I would don't want people to shame me for that. But in this case, I'm like, it's harmless. If if seeing sheep run through a barn door gets you going in front of your friends and relatives, then look.
00:07:46
lizzue
in front of your friends relatives and indeed colleagues
00:07:49
simonthomas
and Indeed, Mac. but
00:07:53
lizzue
no one knows who Mac is but he was there
00:07:58
simonthomas
Yeah, and um I liked that everyone sort of pitched in. I mean, they obviously had to get them all there for romance reasons, because I think if you're trying to rescue a sheep from a barn, you wouldn't naturally think Lewis and Vinnie are the men to go to.
00:08:13
lizzue
Yeah, let's get a barista and, ah I mean, what does Vinny even do?
00:08:18
simonthomas
He sort of just like moves bits of metal around a scrapyard, which I guess they did need metal moving, potentially. So I take it back about him.
00:08:23
lizzue
That is the main thing that needed happen. But Lewis should never have come.
00:08:25
simonthomas
Yeah, he is... No, and he was saying, i would say, are amusingly unhelpful things, which I enjoyed.
00:08:33
lizzue
i mean, when he arrived, Cain was like, why are you here? And he was like, I heard it was all hands on deck.
00:08:38
simonthomas
yeah Like, who else are you going to like drag up like Bob or someone?
00:08:42
lizzue
Yeah.
00:08:47
simonthomas
Bernice has ah jetted in, especially.
00:08:50
lizzue
quick bennies get on a flight we need you debbie finally returns to the village
00:08:53
simonthomas
It's all hands on deck!
00:09:00
simonthomas
Oh dear. Yeah, and I'm please pleased to say no sheep were harming harmed in the filming of that scene, i assume. but
00:09:06
lizzue
you yeah you don't know that it's lovely that you're pleased to say it but it could be a vicious lie
00:09:11
simonthomas
I feel like that's it. I just believe Emadiel wouldn't harm a sheep.
00:09:15
lizzue
I believe Emendell wouldn't tell us if they told it if they'd harmed a sheep.
00:09:19
simonthomas
I was out at brunch yesterday with some friends. No big deal.
00:09:22
lizzue
This feels like a gear shift.
00:09:24
simonthomas
It's it's linked tangentially. And i i asked for the veggie fry up. The man was like, we don't have that anymore. It's like interesting. um I said, oh, it's vegetarian. He said, if I can do you vegan lamb, that's the link.
00:09:37
simonthomas
And was like, okay, sure, I guess.
00:09:38
lizzue
Thank you.
00:09:40
simonthomas
And it was delicious. But I did for for a while think, is he just describing...
00:09:43
lizzue
Oh.
00:09:47
simonthomas
the animals he's killed like those lambs were definitely vegan before i killed them
00:09:53
lizzue
Can you imagine? Yeah, this is like gluten-free pork. The book the pig itself never ate any cereals.
00:09:57
simonthomas
yeah that it wouldn't touch her um yeah yeah i mean people do say that's a very popular opinion and
00:10:02
lizzue
um ah so And that was nice. I generally think that meat substitutes are a bit naff.
00:10:13
simonthomas
I out what you mean by naff, really. They're sort of unnecessary, but they have come on leaps and bounds in the last three or four
Meat Substitutes and Breakfast Mishaps
00:10:18
simonthomas
years, I'd say, a um to point where I got quite emotional in the Isle of Big Sainsbury's at the number of fake meats I could eat.
00:10:18
lizzue
Hmm.
00:10:24
simonthomas
Because it's like, back in the day, it was under Linda McCartney you had our back. And, you know.
00:10:29
lizzue
Now everyone's an ally.
00:10:31
simonthomas
everyone Everyone's at it. Everyone else's eggs, Benedict slash Royale slash whatever it was, were apparently very bad. So if you're ever in Lada or in East Oxford, everyone, my top tip to you is go straight for the vegan lamb.
00:10:43
simonthomas
It's probably the first time anyone's ever ordered it.
00:10:46
lizzue
What was so bad about the eggs?
00:10:48
simonthomas
and Well, they were hard-boiled despite being in a like Florentine situation.
00:10:51
lizzue
Oh.
00:10:53
simonthomas
a
00:10:53
lizzue
That's quite gutting, yeah. Nothing worse than a hard yolk when you're not expecting it.
00:10:58
simonthomas
Absolutely nothing worse.
00:11:00
lizzue
Like literally nothing.
00:11:00
simonthomas
ah
00:11:01
lizzue
You think about all the things that going the world. Nothing.
00:11:03
simonthomas
Nothing. Nothing.
00:11:04
lizzue
Nothing is as bad as a hard yoke.
00:11:06
simonthomas
That's what Jesus meant when he said his yoke was easy. um
00:11:12
lizzue
I think we need to stop putting so many weird Bible things in this podcast.
00:11:17
simonthomas
yeah
00:11:18
lizzue
It's not our target audience.
00:11:21
simonthomas
Yeah, it's not really going to help spread the good news of Jesus Christ to to make some sort of random pun that no one will understand. So yeah, back to the farm, back to the farm.
00:11:28
lizzue
yes
00:11:31
simonthomas
um Well, back to Lewis and Vinnie, I guess. Mandy instantly suggests a double date with them and Paddy. Like, how do they, are they teenagers, early twenty their early twenty s I guess.
00:11:41
lizzue
I think they're early 20s and Mandy is a completely hectic I would say post-menopausal woman
00:11:47
simonthomas
Yeah, either post or I'd say potentially mid. um but And, you know, God bless her for on International Women's Day. But it i've ah I've remarked on this podcast several times that I'm willing to be the menopause ambassador for Emmerdale.
00:12:01
lizzue
and I don't know why they haven't taken you up on it
00:12:03
simonthomas
It's baffling to me. um But yeah, I mean, I'm glad Paddy shot her down because can you imagine how awkward it'd be as a 21-year-old or whatever to go a double date with your eccentric mother?
00:12:10
lizzue
Very strange.
00:12:14
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:12:14
lizzue
I also just think it's kind of wild to me that like maybe three months ago, Vinny was about to marry Gabby and then he was like secretly questioning his sexuality and he was terrified about that.
00:12:28
lizzue
And now suddenly he's just like kissing Lewis in the middle of a farm, sitting down in public and like, I don't know, you're like, I'm genuinely very pleased for you. And I think, great.
00:12:42
lizzue
I just don't think it's especially plausible.
00:12:45
simonthomas
It does seem very much not 60, doesn't it? of yes i mean, I guess a lot of the secret shame was around like hurting Gabby.
00:12:49
lizzue
Yeah.
00:12:53
simonthomas
So I suppose now that she's made it clear that, yeah.
00:12:54
lizzue
Yeah, but they also went to her place of work and sat immediately in front of her while she was working on the bar. So it doesn't appear that that shame has been particularly haunting him either.
00:13:04
simonthomas
I guess it's because Gabby couldn't have made it clearer that she doesn't even remember who he is any longer, let alone have any lasting regrets about it.
Character Dynamics and Relationships
00:13:12
lizzue
She did seem weirdly fine about the fact that all of her previous um relationships have ended up becoming gay. and she's like, cool, yeah, might as well be three for three.
00:13:22
simonthomas
yeah Who's the third? I think forgot.
00:13:25
lizzue
a ah Oh no, I was thinking about Bernice because Bernice had two and Gabby had two.
00:13:29
simonthomas
Oh, yes. Benny says to Gabby's too, she could outstrip her mother at some point, but, um,
00:13:33
lizzue
I'm sure she will.
00:13:35
simonthomas
Maybe we should date Louise, you know, why not?
00:13:41
simonthomas
who
00:13:41
lizzue
Maybe.
00:13:42
simonthomas
Maybe they'll start some hideous throuple, but that's something to consider.
00:13:44
lizzue
Oh...
00:13:45
simonthomas
Who would we have?
00:13:46
lizzue
It would be a tough watch, I think, the three of them. Because we've already established that Vinny and Gabby don't work together. Can you imagine if they thought the solution was introducing Lewis into their relationship? It'd be hectic.
00:13:57
simonthomas
how can we keep keep this dying relationship alive? And by dying, I mean, they break up some time ago. but
00:14:02
lizzue
yeah Stone cold.
00:14:06
simonthomas
Yeah. I mean, I do like how how into Ross is how excited he is for his brother dating someone.
00:14:11
lizzue
Yeah, it's really sweet, isn't it?
00:14:12
simonthomas
That's quite, yeah, weirdly, that's quite sweet. And I like that. Whereas Mandy's investment in it comes across as terrifying. So it's, yeah.
00:14:19
lizzue
Yeah, I guess because Ross is like the bad boy in the village, he's a bit of a criminal.
00:14:24
simonthomas
Hmm.
00:14:24
lizzue
it's always nice when you see his soft side, whereas like we only ever really get Mandy's quite soft and overbearing side, which is sometimes sweet and sometimes you're like, oh, stop.
00:14:35
simonthomas
Yeah, I know it's fair. Yeah, I guess she hasn't really had her own story a while. Well, maybe in the whole time we watched, has she had a story centred around her?
00:14:43
lizzue
There was the OnlyFans storyline.
00:14:47
simonthomas
That was Manpreet.
00:14:49
lizzue
no she was doing stuff as well she was like an online dominatrix
00:14:54
simonthomas
Oh, you're right, she was. Wasn't that to like raise money for our wedding?
00:14:58
lizzue
yeah then Paddy was like babes we can just delay the wedding if you want like we can give us ourselves a bit more time to save up
00:15:06
simonthomas
Yeah, sorry, because Manpreet's only storyline was also her OnlyFans, so they obviously just dished those out to the the older older middle-aged woman, and I guess.
00:15:15
lizzue
Yeah, if they're not sure what sort of storyline to give, always straight back to OnlyFans.
00:15:19
simonthomas
right called i didn't call it that, did they? I'm trying remember what they did call it.
00:15:24
lizzue
No, it's... I don't remember what... It was something similar.
00:15:27
simonthomas
Only Farms, but...
00:15:28
lizzue
OnlyFans.
00:15:28
simonthomas
um
00:15:34
lizzue
Okay, should we talk about one of the storylines? Just sort of get it done.
00:15:40
simonthomas
Which one, sorry?
00:15:41
lizzue
Well, I don't know, just one of them.
00:15:43
simonthomas
Oh, right, just get it done.
00:15:43
lizzue
Yeah.
00:15:46
simonthomas
Sure, sure, sure. Well, um i I know it's the beginning of a long-running storyline, but and I'm sure it'll get worse, but currently it's very hard not to side with the doctor who is apparently workplace bullying Jacob, because everything...
00:16:02
lizzue
I don't think she's workplace bullying him yet we just know it's on the horizon
00:16:04
simonthomas
Okay, because when she's being harsh with him so far, it's because he's been, like, openly abusing her in the pub, or because he just doesn't really seem to want to do his job. When... but and
00:16:15
lizzue
well I don't know because like he t so this doctor turned up at the pub when Jacob wasn't meant to be at work he was just like at the pub and she was like you haven't responded to my emails But I did also think, like, he was at the pub having a beer on his own first thing in the morning, which seems a bit like a cry for help.
00:16:38
simonthomas
That is a red flag, isn't it?
00:16:39
lizzue
So I think it goes both directions. But I did think, like, you don't need to do that. he's He wasn't on shift.
00:16:45
simonthomas
Yeah, that okay that I agree with. I think it was more when he was like, my boss is horrible and I hate her it's loudly.
00:16:50
lizzue
Yeah, she didn't, she hadn't really done anything by then.
00:16:50
simonthomas
but
00:16:52
lizzue
And I guess now she does hate him. Yeah.
00:16:55
simonthomas
Yeah. And he does um love to only treat people if they are living within 100 meter radius of his house, which is tricky.
00:17:06
lizzue
Yeah, it's quite it's quite a bad habit that he's got. um And I did wonder what was going to happen when he saw Bear in the hospital. I just didn't expect Bear to sort of like violently attack him.
00:17:18
simonthomas
Yeah, and the Doctor was wrong to sort of chastise him for being attacked. That was that that seemed little over the top.
00:17:22
lizzue
Yeah, that did feel quite victim-shaming. I can't can't believe you just wasted so much time being physically assaulted in your workplace. Get back to work was a difficult line to take.
00:17:31
simonthomas
Yeah, we know how we feel about Vicky B's. Victim planning. But yeah, and what we're learning is that ba there's there's no end to the number of much younger, much fitter men that Bear is able to incapacitate.
00:17:48
lizzue
yeah we've said it before but like he's an emaciated 80 year old who's just broken out of a modern day slavery ring like he's not going to be able to manhandle all these young fit people and in fact kill one of them
00:17:58
simonthomas
Yeah, because I mean, Ray was, what, 50 or something, whereas Jacob's like 25.
00:18:04
lizzue
yeah but he is quite thin
00:18:06
simonthomas
He is quite thin, but I feel like in a sort of, he goes to the gym sort of way rather than weedy.
Cultural Stereotypes and Personal Anecdotes
00:18:12
lizzue
Yeah, true. He's probably just got like wiry strength.
00:18:15
simonthomas
Yeah, so certainly I would say stronger than a malnourished old man. Yeah.
00:18:22
lizzue
Something I found quite found quite amusing was Dr. Todd saying to Sarah, you look better than when I last saw you. And I thought that's such a backhanded compliment. Like you look not bad.
00:18:33
lizzue
But then I thought, was she?
00:18:34
simonthomas
Yeah, we've creeped up to a three out of
00:18:36
lizzue
i was like, was she in hospital before? Is that when she saw her? Was she like receiving treatment maybe?
00:18:42
simonthomas
I guess so. was that when she had cancer? Maybe. She doesn't really need to think about again.
00:18:45
lizzue
I don't know.
00:18:47
simonthomas
i am Obviously, I love that the Doctor, whose name I've again forgotten, um thank you, Dr.
00:18:53
lizzue
dr Todd?
00:18:54
simonthomas
Todd, is friends with Manpreet. So hopefully Manpreet will be involved in this storyline.
00:18:59
lizzue
i literally wrote in my notes, hopefully Manfreet will get more of a storyline because of the link to Dr.
00:18:59
simonthomas
And yeah.
00:19:04
lizzue
Todd.
00:19:04
simonthomas
Yes. Maybe she'll be like in a tricky choice of having to like, her friend to is behaving badly, but does he side with her friend or Jacob? All these sorts of things. That could be fun.
00:19:15
lizzue
no it's good um something i saw on reddit from somebody whose name i will assume is not actually affectionate word 7761 um is that sarah really pronounces the o in jacob like she really calls him jacob have you noticed that i don't think so jacob so look out for that one it'll haunt you forever
00:19:31
simonthomas
Jacob, is that a Yorkshire thing? No. Jacob.
00:19:40
simonthomas
Yes, I hadn't spotted that, but I'm sure it will ruin the watching experience for me now.
00:19:44
lizzue
Yeah, that's nice.
00:19:45
simonthomas
um Whilst we're talking about people that Jacob is not stronger than, um he did try and slice square up to Kane this week.
00:19:53
lizzue
Yeah, that was ridiculous. Like, why... Jacob, in my mind, is still basically a child. Why did he try and take on Cain Dingle, the actual thug? Yeah.
00:20:03
simonthomas
Yeah, and why did Cain not just punch him in the face? so So that's personal growth for Cain. That's nice.
00:20:10
lizzue
Yeah, although he did then punch Joe Tate in the face quite soon after, so.
00:20:14
simonthomas
That's a plus, though.
00:20:16
lizzue
Yeah.
00:20:16
simonthomas
Joe needs to be punched. I'm generally anti-violence, and you know that, but I do make an exception for Joe Tate.
00:20:23
lizzue
Yeah, and I mean, I love him, but i know that he does have a very punchable face and a very punchable personality.
00:20:29
simonthomas
and Yes, and I think he has said the line, I've got a punchable face before.
00:20:32
lizzue
ah really? Well, we agree on so many things.
00:20:33
simonthomas
Oh wait, no, maybe Robert said it.
00:20:36
lizzue
No, I think Robert said it, maybe.
00:20:38
simonthomas
Maybe you're right. he doesn' yeah I don't want to punch Robert as much as thought Well, want punch either of them, not least because both them could easily kill me. but i do Who could I take in Emmerdale Village?
00:20:49
simonthomas
There's a conversation.
00:20:49
lizzue
Maybe
00:20:51
simonthomas
Well, as we know, Bear could easily kill the world's strongest man just despite with a glance. I think, ah because um'm i don't I don't want to hit a woman, especially on International Women's Day, so I think of the gentleman of the village.
00:21:01
lizzue
Thank you.
00:21:04
simonthomas
may Maybe Bob? Can I take Bob?
00:21:08
lizzue
Elderly, elderly Bob. You could take on Eric. He's got Parkinson's.
00:21:11
simonthomas
I could topple Eric, that's true. ah Maybe Rodney. um And then I guess we're looking at the children. So it's...
00:21:23
lizzue
It's going to have to be Archie or Rodney.
00:21:25
simonthomas
yeah ah Marlon I think I could probably just trip yeah because he looks like it weighs about three stones so I think I could probably him don't say that I'm sure you could hit a child yeah
00:21:30
lizzue
he Yeah, if you trip him over, you could probably then just sit on him.
00:21:42
lizzue
Yeah. Yeah, I don't think I could take on any of the people in Emmerdale. I'm too scared.
00:21:53
lizzue
thank you that's such a comfort to me I just don't think we'll ever be in this situation unless of course the Emmerdale Star tour goes completely awry
00:21:56
simonthomas
um Yeah, no it's a tricky one, isn't it? It's a tricky one.
Emmerdale Village Tour Excitement
00:22:09
simonthomas
Yeah, things really get out of hand and I have to beat up a cast member. We'll keep people posted, I suppose. Yeah.
00:22:16
lizzue
can't imagine you sort of flying into a rage if it is Rodney that we have to meet
00:22:22
simonthomas
yeah
00:22:22
lizzue
I would be like, oh, that's so sweet. Love, Rodney. Longstanding cast member. And you would just be like, I wanted Cammy and punch him in the face.
00:22:30
simonthomas
I'd be like flicking through the terms and conditions to be like, surely this is a refundable offence.
00:22:36
lizzue
Sweet, sweet Rodney.
00:22:38
simonthomas
Sweet, sweet, sweet, Rodney. No, I'm sure it would be lovely. it be I think it'd actually be quite funny to meet Rodney. It'd be a a total waste of time, but it'd be quite funny. Yeah.
00:22:44
lizzue
one of your waste of time He's a human being, Simon. He's on Emmerdale. Sometimes.
00:22:48
simonthomas
Is he on Emma Delbo?
00:22:51
lizzue
sometimestime
00:22:52
simonthomas
Update for, we're going now going in July. I think I said in the last episode we're going in April, but we have moved it to July, so we'll keep you posted.
00:23:00
lizzue
And it's my fault I asked for it to be reshuffled. And this is another great thing about the Emmerdale Village Tour is that they allow you to change the date that you're booked on.
00:23:03
simonthomas
it' ne
00:23:08
simonthomas
Yeah, so that was handy.
00:23:10
lizzue
So that's something.
00:23:10
simonthomas
um So we'll see it in the presumably youre blazing sunshine.
00:23:15
lizzue
Yeah, we should take content while we're there.
00:23:18
simonthomas
Absolutely, absolutely. um Yes, well so the reason Jacob was so angry with Kane, to go back to that, was because, i think this is quite unfair, he alleged that Kane had got Sarah involved in stealing cars, despite Kane doing his level best to not let Sarah join him
Sarah's Criminal Involvement
00:23:37
lizzue
Yeah, he literally like tried to do it without her and she still turned up, tried to send her home and she refused and then he was like, fine, whatever. And now everyone's like, Cain, I can't believe you're dragging her into this crime.
00:23:37
simonthomas
in stealing cars.
00:23:50
lizzue
And you're like, she dragged herself into this crime.
00:23:50
simonthomas
yeah
00:23:54
simonthomas
She's also an adult woman. Like, she's responsible for her own actions if she's doing them deliberately.
00:23:59
lizzue
Yeah, so true. it's tough It's tough, isn't it? I think um people are really going big as well on the whole, like, and she's having a baby in two weeks, brackets, but but but via surrogacy. um But I don't know, yeah I don't know how much those two things seem to be weighing on her mind equally.
00:24:20
lizzue
She certainly seems to have, like, swapped out being obsessed with her baby with being obsessed with stealing cars.
00:24:20
simonthomas
Yes.
00:24:26
lizzue
Yeah.
00:24:28
simonthomas
yeah she really is an all or nothing person isn't it she's like if something crosses her mind it's all she can think about
00:24:35
lizzue
She is consumed by it.
00:24:37
simonthomas
Yeah, and Cain does have this long history of stealing cars, we know this. but um But saying like, we need some money for the farm, the only conceivable way to do that is to just steal a car.
00:24:49
simonthomas
And at one point, she considers doing it from Dr. Todd, just from a car on the high street. Granted, she left the keys in the car, so it was an easy target. but
00:24:58
lizzue
Yeah, and I guess if stealing cars is your vice, it would be hard to say no to something dangled in front of you like that. um But yeah, that it was kind of unhinged. I don't know if you picked up on this as well.
00:25:10
lizzue
She was about to steal the car and then Jacob was like, what are you doing? Are you stealing that car? And then went to the ad break, came back from the ad break and it'd clearly been raining a lot during the ad break because the car was then like had loads of raindrops on it.
00:25:29
simonthomas
Those were his tears. What she'd become.
00:25:32
lizzue
I Yeah, you're so right, actually.
00:25:33
simonthomas
yeah
00:25:35
lizzue
I'm sorry i didn't I didn't spot that kind of like extreme form of pathetic fallacy.
00:25:37
simonthomas
Yeah, it was subtle. It was subtle. yeah He's a pathetic palestinette.
00:25:44
lizzue
You're a pathetic fallacy.
00:25:47
simonthomas
Yeah, ah that was all very confusing. But yeah, Charity was angry. Chaz was angry. Everyone was angry at Kane. People seemed to be less angry at Sarah. Jacob was briefly angry at Sarah, but um they seemed to make up in quite way.
00:26:00
simonthomas
Like, I had previously thought they lot of chemistry, or at least enough chemistry, whereas weirdly they're, like, getting back together scene with Carrie just wandering nearby. It was quite unsettling.
00:26:10
lizzue
Yeah, it was weird. And then ah they seemed to then fall out again. think they think they're still falling out right now.
00:26:18
simonthomas
Hmm. Yeah.
00:26:20
lizzue
And we talked about the fact that um at one point it kind of felt like a commercial for a breast pump that you have completely erased this scene from your mind.
00:26:21
simonthomas
And...
00:26:31
simonthomas
Yeah, as you say, it must have been a trauma response for me because i simply have no recollection of this. But apparently Sarah can express milk despite not being pregnant.
00:26:40
lizzue
Yeah, like there was this really weird scene that suddenly felt like we were in a really bad like SponCon where um Jacob was like, what's that package? And she's like, it's the breast pump that I ordered. And when I take my medication, I'll soon be able to express milk for our baby. is this?
00:27:02
simonthomas
Yeah, because they do have a few things recently which seem to be like infomercials, but is is that where ITV has gone to now?
00:27:02
lizzue
You're being sponsored by breast pumps.
00:27:13
simonthomas
like I guess they can, but it does not.
00:27:14
lizzue
Yeah, I guess they can just raise awareness of issues that need to be raised, for example, when it was like International Scam Week or something, and then they were like, so be safe online.
00:27:21
simonthomas
Oh, yes.
00:27:24
lizzue
But it does feel strange to like, presumably ITV just pays for advertising in the ad breaks. I didn't think they would also, although actually they've got like a ah deal with, is it Land Rover and with Barber.
00:27:37
lizzue
That's why they wear Barber jackets and drive Land Rovers.
00:27:39
simonthomas
Oh yeah, maybe they've also got to deal with some breast pump, Fran. Oh
00:27:42
lizzue
Yeah, maybe. It's a bit rogue. Like, I sometimes get brands approaching me to, like, use their products on my Instagram, and so they send me, like, free stuff.
00:27:53
simonthomas
wow.
00:27:53
lizzue
You wouldn't have thought that they would do that on Emmerdale, you know? Like...
00:27:57
simonthomas
Well, mean, I think Ember, I hope this hope this doesn't seem rude to you, but the Ember might have a wider audience than your Instagram, so...
00:28:05
lizzue
Yeah, I meant more that it's, like, i don't know, it seems like quite a low grade of advertising. You'd think they would just be like, we'll be in an ad break, please. But maybe not.
00:28:13
simonthomas
Maybe, yeah, maybe it's cheaper
Driving Humor and Realism in Storylines
00:28:15
simonthomas
or more expensive.
00:28:15
lizzue
Maybe people are like, people are probably paying more attention to what Sarah is using to express her breast milk than like ah random Specsavers adverts before and after.
00:28:16
simonthomas
I don't know.
00:28:21
simonthomas
Not me, apparently, but other people, yes.
00:28:26
simonthomas
Yeah, i mean, that's true. I guess i do I do not watch the adverts, whereas I do watch some of the scenes. and And I guess maybe a core target demo for them is people on maternity leave.
00:28:37
simonthomas
So it is, yeah, yeah.
00:28:38
lizzue
True. People who are home in the daytime.
00:28:43
simonthomas
Funny. Oh yes, one more note out on this on the stealing cars is Chas said to someone, I forget who, he isn't 15, he can't go stealing cars. He's like, is that what 15 year olds do?
00:28:54
simonthomas
Seems very young to sort of guess how to drive.
00:28:57
lizzue
I don't know. Yeah. I mean, there are lots of 15 year olds who know how to drive. Not that they've been taught, but that they know.
00:29:04
simonthomas
How have they picked it up?
00:29:04
lizzue
Yeah.
00:29:05
simonthomas
Just by just from like going off the road or something?
00:29:08
lizzue
Well, as in like, not in like a formal driving lesson capacity, but just like, you just pick it up from people around you kind of thing.
00:29:09
simonthomas
thing
00:29:15
simonthomas
I don't know what that means.
00:29:16
lizzue
tim As in there are plenty of people who just know how to drive like from friends or from family members or from growing up on a farm.
00:29:26
simonthomas
Just from like watching them.
00:29:28
lizzue
No, just from driving. And then like when you get to the right age, you actually get a driving license.
00:29:30
simonthomas
ah right.
00:29:33
lizzue
It's usually like if you... Well, not usually. It's often like friends of mine who've grown up on farms. They could all drive when they were like 13. Yeah. And then when it was legal, they got a provisional license and got a driving license.
00:29:46
simonthomas
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. i could have come across that with farming. My dad learned to drive a tractor before he could drive, because he grew up on a farm, before he could ah drive a car. And so that helped him.
00:29:59
lizzue
But then also, i guess, like Cammy, I feel like his character probably would have just learned to drive off of other people when he was a bad boy in Bradford.
00:29:59
simonthomas
So maybe that's what it is, yeah.
00:30:11
simonthomas
Maybe, ah guess I just, my eyes are forever being opened to people who are not rule followers like I am.
00:30:17
lizzue
Yeah, it's a brave new world out there.
00:30:18
simonthomas
and I first sat behind a wheel when I was 22, and I hated it, but you know, here we are.
00:30:28
lizzue
And here we are, in our 40 and you still kind of hate it?
00:30:34
simonthomas
No, I don't mind it know. i mean, i I don't enjoy it It's baffling to me when people say they enjoy driving.
00:30:35
lizzue
Okay, that's good.
00:30:39
simonthomas
It's like, what do you mean? It's like enjoying turning the dishwasher on. Like the best that can happen is that nothing breaks.
00:30:42
lizzue
Well, I quite enjoy driving.
00:30:44
simonthomas
I don't get it. It's like the absolute best thing that can happen is that you don't die. think that's it Like like the best that can happen is a neutral.
00:30:53
lizzue
No, I think there's real satisfaction in like when you're like, oh, I'm doing a good job of driving. You drive an automatic, so I guess there's less of like a process involved.
00:31:04
simonthomas
I guess so. And it's lovely that that's how, you know, you should give yourself little star chart. Maybe when you pull down the visor, it can just have you can put your little stickers there for, like, done a good job today.
00:31:12
lizzue
Yeah, thanks, actually. Maybe you could make that for me.
00:31:14
simonthomas
yeah Okay. well maybe its a it If it's just sticking stickers onto a visor, I can send you some stickers.
00:31:21
lizzue
ah you will also need to purchase a visor oh you mean the one in the car I was picturing myself with like visor and I was like I don't feel comfortable with like putting a visor over my eyes while I'm driving but i can do that if you want
00:31:25
simonthomas
Yes, I do. Yes, I'm hoping your car comes a quick with them. right
00:31:36
simonthomas
listen You need to be better at saying no when people ask you to block your vision whilst driving.
00:31:40
lizzue
I know i do I do need to work on my boundaries with that in particular um to sort of loop us back into something vaguely relevant I just don't think Kane would have stolen that car.
00:31:44
simonthomas
but Very specifically.
00:31:52
lizzue
like I think Kane is too smart to have realised, to not have realised that it was just a trap. It was so obvious.
00:32:00
simonthomas
Yeah. um
00:32:03
lizzue
As in the second the fancy car that Jo used as a trap.
00:32:03
simonthomas
I've never seen yet. Oh, I see, I see, I see. Yeah, and... um ah Yeah, sorry, I'm just going to be blank.
00:32:15
simonthomas
I feel like he you normally would, but maybe it's like the stress he's gone mad. But also, i feel like if you're going to sell on a car, it has... Generally, I'd have thought either like one that there's going to be a very discreet market for. So maybe that's what it is in this case. It'd be someone who wants this very valuable car, who's willing not to ask too many questions. Or it'd just be a sort of car that no one's going to...
00:32:36
simonthomas
miss or ask questions about or can easily blend in where something like that it's very obvious it's been stolen you know that people are going to complain it's a very distinctive car um it's just
00:32:38
lizzue
Yeah.
00:32:47
lizzue
There's like only three roads in Emmerdale they're all very visible. You'd think that like if you wanted to go and steal cars It's not that far for him to drive to Bradford.
00:32:56
simonthomas
And there would be less of a paper trail with like, oh, someone stole a car from this village. Could it be the guy who repeatedly steals cars?
00:33:03
lizzue
yeah
00:33:03
simonthomas
We didn't. Yeah. Hmm.
00:33:05
lizzue
Yeah, you would think so. Also found the whole like when Cammy spilt a drink on Joe like quite funny um as a decoy to like get his keys and then steal the car.
00:33:07
simonthomas
yeah
00:33:17
lizzue
um But then Joe being like, I just have to clean this shirt now before it stains. i was like, babe, that's a black shirt.
00:33:23
simonthomas
yeah
00:33:24
lizzue
fine like what stain do you think you're going to get on that
00:33:28
simonthomas
Yeah, and um I did, i very yeah i like you, I very much enjoyed it. I thought Cammy did a good job with with sort of standing up to Joe, but um it was not a foolproof plan, because what if A hadn't left, or B, he'd taken his car keys with him when he went, rather than just leaving the mine?
00:33:43
lizzue
yeah I was quite surprised that you didn't yeah it's almost like it was like written by a team of writers
00:33:44
simonthomas
But, you know, the plan worked, so, you know, I can't fault it.
00:33:50
simonthomas
Yeah. And yeah, clearly Cammy, generally we think he's a good guy, but he doesn't he doesn't have like a huge moral compass. He didn't ask many questions about being involved in stealing this car.
00:34:02
simonthomas
like, sure, Joe seems like a douche. I'm on it.
00:34:04
lizzue
Well, he was like, oh, i don't do that kind of thing anymore. Like, I've turned a corner. And then Kane was like, what if you don't turn a corner?
00:34:12
simonthomas
Yeah. It's like, when you buy that, actually...
00:34:13
lizzue
And he was like, okay, yeah, sure, that'll be fun. Yeah, you know what? Sounds great.
00:34:19
simonthomas
And it's tricky, I guess, with your um with your employer to know where the boundaries are. Be like, so this man who trusts me with strangers' cars is okay with me stealing cars sometimes.
00:34:29
simonthomas
But don't look too keen because it like i literally work with the car keys of strangers.
00:34:30
lizzue
so true.
00:34:38
lizzue
Yeah, you have to sort of keep a lid on it. You don't really seem to be jumping at the chance. but
00:34:41
simonthomas
yeah It's like, so can you just let me know which cars it is and it's not okay to steal? Because, I mean, there's a really supply of cars to steal from people.
00:34:46
lizzue
Yeah.
00:34:50
simonthomas
Would you take a car to a mechanic who was renowned for stealing cars? That's another question.
00:34:54
lizzue
Absolutely not.
00:34:56
simonthomas
i unless I always wanted to do like an insurance thing.
00:34:57
lizzue
Although I have never in my life had a car that anybody would want to steal.
00:34:59
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:35:02
lizzue
So maybe I would feel a sense of safety with it all.
00:35:07
simonthomas
Yes, and they certainly certainly no one ever has stolen any of my cars. Well, certainly my first car generally didn't start, so they'd have had a hard job getting off anyway.
00:35:17
lizzue
If anything it sounds like it would have been a mercy if they'd stolen it. You would have finally been able get a new one.
00:35:21
simonthomas
Genuinely, at one point I was desperate for someone steal it because I just wanted it off my hands.
00:35:26
lizzue
Just leaving the keys lying around in public. Leave them on the dashboard.
00:35:30
simonthomas
Yeah, but yeah, generally the battery was dead, so it was useless. Sweet Sweet Jasper, that was his name.
00:35:39
lizzue
and love that you name your cars. It's never really something I've got into.
00:35:42
simonthomas
Which is weird, because you actually like cars, and I don't care about cars, but I do like whimsy, so that's, you know...
00:35:48
lizzue
um yeah I don't know
Farm-Related Storylines and Legal Plausibility
00:35:50
lizzue
if I like really like cars I think you just are so intensely disinterested in them that like by comparison I seem like a complete like car
00:36:00
simonthomas
Rabbit man. It's true. Maybe it's just the fact that you can identify cars and have heard of different types of cars equates in my mind with being a real petrolhead to say.
00:36:10
lizzue
I'm a boy racer okay boys
00:36:12
simonthomas
You're a boy racer. She races boys. That's...
00:36:19
lizzue
That's not what we want. Not on International Women's Day.
00:36:20
simonthomas
listen Not on National Women's Day all day. Oh
00:36:24
lizzue
of All the days.
00:36:27
simonthomas
dear. um So Graham goes to warn Kane about some... Oh yeah, knows about the cars was it was about the weird plan to sell off farm equipment, which was quite confusing.
00:36:39
simonthomas
And it's definitely farming content, I suppose. Yeah.
00:36:41
lizzue
Yeah, farming content. Yeah, it was funny. I saw when Graham turned up at the butler's farm and then obviously he saw the the letter from the hospital with Kane's cancer diagnosis. And I thought, oh, that's I think this is where we're going to see that Graham does have a softer side and a moral compass and he's going to go easier on Kane, which in a way he does, but not before he punched him in the face.
00:37:09
lizzue
It's like, I will pity you, but first, I just need to have a physical altercation.
00:37:09
simonthomas
yeah
00:37:13
lizzue
And now i'm going to try and make your life bit easier.
00:37:14
simonthomas
quick bit of violence and it really reminded me of the whole setup of this with Kim's plan of the whole Wack of the Christie thing you know when Colin Mooney was like own only Rebecca Vardy will be able to see this and Kim was like tell him something that only he will know see if Kane finds out
00:37:16
lizzue
It's really clear messaging.
00:37:26
lizzue
Yes! Instagram stories!
00:37:36
simonthomas
um And yeah, Graham bizarrely instantly went to tell him. But yeah, but as a plan goes, it's confusing to me that just by being a part owner means you can like sell all the farm equipment but without and the permission of the other part owner.
00:37:53
lizzue
Yeah, I just think that Emmerdale does not have a strong sort of legal team helping them to write the scripts and work out what would be allowed. Like, there's just so much going on that I've actually stopped trying to understand necessarily what's going on with this farm.
00:38:08
simonthomas
it
00:38:09
lizzue
I'm just like letting it all wash over me. I know that there's some evil things afoot. That's about it
00:38:15
simonthomas
yeah and well the fact that their great solution to this is well we'll sell all the equipment first it's like well it means you have more money but you'll still not have any farming equipment
00:38:24
lizzue
Yeah, you still won't actually be able to run your farm.
00:38:28
simonthomas
maybe that's what happened maybe they like sold the pillars that were holding up the barn or something crumpled on the poor sheep yeah
00:38:34
lizzue
Yeah, gosh, absolute sabotage. But in the end, who's the real winner? Because it meant that Vinnie and Lewis got a kiss.
00:38:41
simonthomas
Well, there we go. um Yes, I guess that did lead to that. But imagine if Maury gets that inside of something.
00:38:47
lizzue
It's certainly something.
00:38:52
simonthomas
ah Who knew the the path to LGBTQIA rights was selling tractors?
00:38:59
lizzue
We've cracked it at last, you can rest.
00:39:00
simonthomas
We've cracked ah Stonewall, that's your next tactic. It was, yeah, imagine when Maury gets out of prison and K's like, Joe was really trying to ah like do one over us, but don't worry, I've decimated our farm.
00:39:16
simonthomas
I've sold everything at below market price. So,
00:39:20
lizzue
And all the cows have got TB.
00:39:22
simonthomas
yeah Oh, yes. I can work out if that was a real thing or just something like Joe would pay to bet to pretend they had TB or something. But um
00:39:29
lizzue
I think it was Vanessa, so
00:39:31
simonthomas
was it Vanessa? I really should look up for my phone on occasion while I was watching.
00:39:32
lizzue
she was She was doing the testing.
00:39:34
simonthomas
and um But yeah, those poor cows. It's sad.
00:39:40
lizzue
I love that your mind went to poor cows. My mind was straight to poor Cana Moira.
00:39:45
simonthomas
Well, I mean, it's sad for them, but going kill the cows.
00:39:48
lizzue
Yeah, but the cows were going to die either way.
00:39:51
simonthomas
Also, a cane and Moira.
00:39:51
lizzue
it's just... It's just whether or not their death brings money to valuable farming communities.
00:39:59
simonthomas
yeah I guess we come from a different place here, re re whether we're okay with cows dying in farms, but I'm famously anti it.
00:40:01
lizzue
yeah so true famously we were thinking of getting a cow for our garden
00:40:10
simonthomas
I don't want to entertain that that's upset.
00:40:13
lizzue
well that's sort where I got to in the end because like it'd be sweet to have it for milk but then obviously you have to keep having babies if you want them to keep producing milk and I just thought I don't have time or space for that
00:40:25
simonthomas
Yes, i don't I don't think you're in a time in your life where you need to be like artificially inseminating cows.
00:40:30
lizzue
Well, I wouldn't be artificially inseminating a cow.
00:40:33
simonthomas
yeah I'm glad you've come to that conclusion. Yeah.
00:40:38
lizzue
would be using bulls.
00:40:40
simonthomas
you're balls on the gun as well, aren't you?
00:40:43
lizzue
I was kind of picturing myself borrowing them from Anna's farm, but maybe.
00:40:47
simonthomas
Yeah, we could get a donkey. and We would get less milk, but donkeys are cute, so think of that.
00:40:51
lizzue
Yeah, I don't know if i want to drink donkey milk. Sounds like it would taste musty.
00:40:55
simonthomas
Goat? Oh, a goat. Goat milk's probably fine.
00:40:56
lizzue
I thought about goat, but they're going to eat my whole garden. in a way that cow probably would as well to be fair I think I just shouldn't turn my garden into a small holding it's not even that big I would just quite like some ducks
00:41:00
simonthomas
Okay. Yeah, I don't know. How does Serling you think, it?
00:41:07
simonthomas
Well, the word small, it's got the word small right in the title, so you're good to go. Yeah. um Yeah, I don't think there's any way that this is not a cry for help of some variety. You seem a few years early for a midlife crisis, so I'd hold off.
00:41:25
lizzue
they would eat all the slugs in my garden
00:41:28
simonthomas
Yeah, okay. You get ducks.
00:41:29
lizzue
And they're really cute.
00:41:29
simonthomas
Don't let me stop you.
00:41:31
lizzue
But I think...
00:41:31
simonthomas
They can fly. Will they not immediately leave your garden?
00:41:34
lizzue
don't... I don't know. And I also think they probably get eaten by foxes and that I would never recover from that. Hmm...
00:41:40
simonthomas
and that would be hard to take. i Curious that you'll find with the callous having a bolt through the head, but but the ducks you've got a sudden affection for. um
00:41:51
lizzue
Yeah, I guess um the ducks sort of being ravaged in the night by a fox feels quite different to me making the decision that the cows have got to the abattoir stage.
00:41:52
simonthomas
yeah
00:42:00
simonthomas
yeah
00:42:00
lizzue
But, sure.
00:42:01
simonthomas
yeah It's all semantics, I think. But this is I don't want turn this into my rabid vegetarian podcast.
00:42:09
lizzue
No, you can have your own rabid vegetarian podcast and I'll have my own This Agricultural Life podcast.
00:42:10
simonthomas
Or do i
00:42:15
simonthomas
This is a cultural life. Just thinking about getting ducks. it's It's the main content.
00:42:21
lizzue
I have been thinking we should get my housemate Anna on as a farming consultant.
00:42:26
simonthomas
We've not had to like express for express them for a while. So yeah, we we really we really should get her to talk about rescuing sheep from collapsing barns or something.
00:42:28
lizzue
No.
00:42:36
lizzue
Collapsing barns. Yeah, I'll get her to do a little voice note. That'd be quite sweet.
00:42:40
simonthomas
Actually, I would like to know from her potentially is why the sheep were there anyway.
00:42:40
lizzue
She's about to do lambing.
00:42:45
simonthomas
Because all the sheep around me just seem to spend 24 hours a day in the field. They don't go into any barns.
00:42:51
lizzue
um I think so they've just brought in the um sheep at her farm because they're all about to have lambs and you want them to do that in a barn rather than in a cold field.
00:43:00
simonthomas
Is that when you bring them in okay? Because, yeah, they do the shearing outside and they do, you know, but like at the cows do tend to go in at different times, but anyway.
00:43:10
lizzue
Yeah, cows are in at the moment. And when you let them out, they're so happy they like run around and jump in the air and stuff.
00:43:12
simonthomas
um
00:43:16
simonthomas
as I love cows. we used the The place where um my parents lived before they retired, the back garden bordered the farm behind and cows would often just like line up along the fence, just look over.
00:43:27
simonthomas
They're very cute.
00:43:27
lizzue
That's so nice. Yeah, that happens at my parents' house, but then my mum sometimes gets really annoyed because the cows eat like the nice things that she's planted near their wall. And she's like, it's nice to have the cows here, but they're eating my amalanchea.
00:43:36
simonthomas
They're probably very delicious.
00:43:40
simonthomas
my gosh. um Keep it clean. um i ah
00:43:46
lizzue
Don't say that about my mother.
00:43:49
simonthomas
um The place I grew up, ah cows used to walk to dairy past every every morning. And you like time when you walked to a to first school to make sure you got ahead of them going, actually, I think maybe back from dairy. But otherwise, would.
00:44:05
simonthomas
walking behind cows was very, very slow, but they would often wander down the driveway and just eat shrubs and stuff say that me
00:44:10
lizzue
It's quite a good excuse for being late for school though if you're like, you can't penalise me for this, I just got caught behind a herd of cows.
00:44:17
simonthomas
stuff. ah What I did for want to know is why they thought Graham would have the expertise to do a full inventory of farm equipment in an hour, a man who doesn't seem to know anything about farms.
00:44:28
lizzue
Yeah, and it's quite a big farm, it would take probably longer than an hour just to walk around and glance all of the equipment in there.
00:44:32
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:44:33
lizzue
Quite strange.
00:44:34
simonthomas
person But apparently here not only the expertise to do it, but also to do an illicit version of it.
Character Critique and Emotional Reactions
00:44:44
lizzue
He does know what he's doing. um I don't know if it was intentional or sort of a trick of the light, but it looked like Joe Tate has got a bit of a side parting and it didn't look good.
00:44:53
simonthomas
i miss Again, I'm not sure I've looked up from my phone once in the past couple of weeks. So maybe ah that's my main resolution for the next couple weeks. I will actually look at the screen.
00:45:02
lizzue
Like, actually watch, I don't know. Yeah, well, I can't tell whether Joe Tate had a side parting, but if he did, I wondered if it was like, you know, subtle foreshadowing of his embracing Graham as a father figure again by embracing his hairstyle.
00:45:18
simonthomas
Does Graham ever centre parting?
00:45:19
lizzue
I said side parting. Maybe I said side parting, but I meant to say side parting.
00:45:21
simonthomas
Oh, side parting. I don't know what she said. So, okay, maybe it is. My question is why Graham dresses every single day as Count Dracula.
00:45:32
lizzue
I just, my question is just like, why Graham?
00:45:35
simonthomas
Why Graham, of all the people to remain dead, he's the one who most suited being unalive. We didn't need him to return.
00:45:46
lizzue
Yeah, it was it was really difficult when he came back because not that I knew him before, but because I now have to get to know this character who I loathe and who everybody online is obsessed with. And I'm like, I can't take anything he says or does seriously.
00:46:03
simonthomas
And whilst I am like partially joking about being affronted if I end up meeting Rodney on Star Tour, I will generally not know what to do we meet Graham, because we we've not taken to him, it's fair to say.
00:46:14
lizzue
what We've not taken kindly to him.
00:46:17
simonthomas
yeah
00:46:18
lizzue
Yeah, I know. i I will feel for beside myself with guilt if we meet Graham because I'm the reason that we switched from the April date to the July date.
00:46:25
simonthomas
ah Yeah, it it might be a wedge in our friendship. but Particularly because I'm hoping whoever it is, we can like ask them to record Welcome to Dingle All The Way or something.
00:46:30
lizzue
think it genuinely would be the thing that drew us apart.
00:46:38
simonthomas
I don't know if we're allowed to do that, but it'd be lovely if we could.
00:46:41
lizzue
It's probably not a allowed, but it's certainly worth a try.
00:46:44
simonthomas
but I just don't think, I think it would be very disingenuous of us to have Graham do that and then spend the whole episode slacking him up.
00:46:51
lizzue
I think it would be kind of really funny actually if we just had his stupid sentient gravel voice saying a few key things like now it's time for farming content.
00:46:56
simonthomas
yeah
00:47:03
simonthomas
That'd be so funny. Oh dear. um Okay, what else?
00:47:10
lizzue
Laurel, should we talk about Laurel?
00:47:12
simonthomas
Yeah, i would I would say I think some of the best writing and acting that I've seen in ages and I've been was the actual real detailed nuance around her reaction to Ray's burial.
00:47:22
simonthomas
And I thought that was done so well.
00:47:23
lizzue
Yeah.
00:47:24
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:47:24
lizzue
And this is one of the main things I wrote down. It's like, why was everybody so anti-Laurel going to Ray's funeral? Because, yeah, I feel like it was really true to life that, yeah, when somebody who you find out was an abuser and a horrible person, but that you truly loved has died, you have mixed emotions and you might want to go to their funeral.
00:47:46
lizzue
Nobody could cope with that. Everyone was just like, Laurel, you're a horrible person and I hate you. like Why couldn't people just respect that people are bereaved and they need different things?
00:47:56
simonthomas
Yeah, and even if it's just closure, yeah At least Nicola was standing up for her always.
00:47:57
lizzue
I found the villagers' reaction awful. Yeah. But...
00:48:02
simonthomas
Loved that. Always loved to see that.
00:48:03
lizzue
Yeah. We love to see Nicola not quite understanding the situation but still defending her friends to the death.
00:48:04
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:48:10
simonthomas
Absolutely. And that is actually such a sweet trait that I do appreciate.
00:48:13
lizzue
Yeah. It is nice. But yeah, I think Laurel, well, Charlotte Bellamy has been doing such a good job recently.
00:48:20
simonthomas
Mm-mm-mm.
00:48:20
lizzue
She's so so good at just like conveying actual real emotion. And I thought that as well with um when her, if you haven't been watching this last week, her son Arthur...
00:48:32
lizzue
um in a fit of rage sort of pushed her and she got knocked out and injured um and she claimed that she couldn't remember how it happened because she wants to defend him or like wants him not to get into trouble um and then in the most recent episode it comes out that she actually does remember and I found it so interesting because Arthur has sort of been trying to work out whether she does remember or not and like dropping things in.
00:48:56
simonthomas
Mm-mm-mm. Mm-mm-mm.
00:49:00
lizzue
Gabby was sort of at some point being like, are you sure it wasn't like Arthur? He seems bit weird. And then Arthur later says to Laurel, I knew you'd believe Gabby, you always do. And I thought that was such an interesting like turning point where Laurel was like, actually, no, like you can't say that. Like, I do know it was you.
00:49:20
lizzue
and like you can't manipulate me like that I thought she did such a good job of like playing that scene.
00:49:26
simonthomas
Yeah, definitely. I thought absolutely. and it's yeah, I i don't know if it's like the beginning of a, how to phrase this, not child abuse, or the child abusing the parent or child violence from a child to a parent storyline, or if it's just a one-off, but that could be interesting and would explain why Arthur's personality has changed so rapidly from what it was before.
00:49:44
lizzue
Yeah, I was wondering where it was going as well, because obviously Laurel also hit Arthur recently and she felt terrible, but then it was sort of just glossed over and it was like, whatever, that kind of happened.
00:49:51
simonthomas
Yeah, it's true.
00:49:58
lizzue
And now Arthur pushes her and there's obviously much bigger effects. And like, she's just asked him to leave for a bit. And I don't know, neither of those situations seem like they ended or like had very good resolution, but it feels like they're setting up some kind of like ongoing storyline, maybe.
00:50:14
simonthomas
Yeah, surely. Yeah, it's interesting. And and even the scenes where she was like, used to be such a sweet boy, it's like, I still am that boy, it was actually quite moving. And because I think all of us probably had the experience of our parents saying to us as teenagers being like, oh, you didn't used to behave like this or, you know, and I can't imagine either of us were the world's worst teenagers, but that's a ah I mean, I had my moments um actually mostly before I was a teenager, but ah yeah, I can still remember that thing of being like really angry.
00:50:23
lizzue
Yeah.
00:50:34
lizzue
I actually was. No.
00:50:46
simonthomas
They've said it, but also like hurt that they think you've changed. And you're like, what do they say?
00:50:51
lizzue
Mm-hmm.
00:50:51
simonthomas
And when she said, I don't, I love you, but I don't like you very much at the moment. Oh my gosh, that's a hard thing for anyone to hear. and you can see how that must be a dynamic that plays out a lot. And I don't know if my parents ever said exactly that to me, but I certainly got the implications of that sometimes.
00:51:05
lizzue
but certainly felt it. Yeah, I think Laura's doing a really great job at the moment and yeah, the script writing for her has been really good. um Also refreshing...
00:51:15
simonthomas
It was a bit...
00:51:16
lizzue
no, you go.
00:51:17
simonthomas
i was gonna say, the the one line I thought was a bit odd was when she came out of hospital and said that Dottie grown when she'd been in hospital for two days.
00:51:23
lizzue
and i think that I think she was joking, but I don't know.
00:51:26
simonthomas
Maybe it was a reference to fact she hasn't seen her for weeks.
00:51:26
lizzue
it was fun to see but it was fun that we saw Dottie after last episode we were talking about and we were like we have nothing to say um and she does indeed look older than two which is how old I thought she was yeah
00:51:32
simonthomas
saw Daddy.
00:51:41
simonthomas
She's grown a lot since we last saw her, certainly.
00:51:43
lizzue
yeah
00:51:44
simonthomas
Speaking of growing a lot since we last saw them, every time we catch sight of Archie, he's aged another five years.
00:51:45
lizzue
a
00:51:50
lizzue
I know, he's basically having a midlife crisis at this stage.
00:51:50
simonthomas
Yeah.
00:51:55
simonthomas
yeah
00:51:56
lizzue
yeah Archie was actually a pretty good actor and I liked his sort of Newcastle accent that Carrie had taught him.
00:52:01
simonthomas
Yeah, i liked his his um like rapport with Kerry. And I hate myself for saying this, Lizzie. hill I don't know if this is going to be the end of the podcast. But i sort of... I didn't hate Jay and Kerry together.
00:52:15
lizzue
That's what I was going to say. I was like, you're going to hate me so much this.
00:52:16
simonthomas
know.
00:52:18
lizzue
But... um I found myself after those scenes being like, oh, there's something on Emmerdale that i'm actually i actually care about watching.
00:52:25
simonthomas
sort of see it because they were vile together the first time it was like like stomach churning stuff whereas now i'm like oh okay i sort of get it
00:52:31
lizzue
Yeah. Yeah, it's quite sweet. um Yeah, and I had totally forgotten that Carrie was now married, which does put a different spin on it.
00:52:41
lizzue
And I feel like, you know, we don't really like Jay as a character. But it isn't very fair on him, I don't think, of Kerry to initiate them starting back up again and then being like, oh, but this can never really be like a real relationship.
00:52:54
lizzue
I am going to keep on slagging you off to all my friends because like I am in a sham marriage and I wouldn't want to hurt my fake husband. You're like, I don't think this is going to be a great arrangement going forward.
00:53:04
simonthomas
yeah And also, there's one thing of like, i don't want to tell my husband, but you could just like not watch A at all. Rather than like, oh no, I do have to very specifically insult you.
00:53:11
lizzue
Yeah.
00:53:15
lizzue
If I stop insulting you, people will know we're sleeping together.
00:53:18
simonthomas
yeah um yeah but i they were quite i liked that little flirty i liked that her apologizing when she realized he was her i liked his little hope i thought um yeah it was i didn't know what's happened what's happened to us lizzie it or maybe they went back to the drawing board it's like we okay we need to rethink this and make it less sleazy and more like heartfelt and that's i guess what happened
00:53:33
lizzue
i don't know. i think it's just a sign of the time. It's end times.
00:53:44
lizzue
Yeah, maybe. And it did work. I guess ah my biggest question is, like, why is Caleb never in his office?
00:53:51
simonthomas
That's true. Well, maybe he's caught sight on CCTV of what's going down in there. and he's like, there's not enough disinvented in the world.
00:53:58
lizzue
would not go in there.
00:54:00
simonthomas
It's like, I'm simply just, he's just in a porch cabin outside now. he likes I'm not breathing the same air. But um yeah.
00:54:06
lizzue
Yeah, I think wise.
00:54:08
simonthomas
um Yeah. So that's interesting. for It is weird. The whole marriage thing that has sort of spontaneously happened and they never mentioned it for weeks, but um maybe that's going to become more prominent now.
00:54:20
lizzue
know I don't know. mean, it definitely seems like Carrie has forgotten that she's married and so have all of the viewers until sort of retrospectively it's added in like, oh wait, also Eric.
00:54:25
simonthomas
Yes, true.
00:54:29
simonthomas
Yeah, don't forget the sweet Eric. um Yeah, speaking of like sweet scenes, I did enjoy Billy and Kerry like trying to understand Gen Z slang and that was quite funny.
00:54:38
lizzue
Yeah, that was quite fun.
00:54:40
simonthomas
and Although a scene which had Billy, Kerry, Tracy and Jay and did feel like a who's who of neglected characters. They're just like, oh, we we haven't given them their contractually obligated number of scenes this month.
00:54:46
lizzue
Oh my
00:54:50
simonthomas
So just shove them all in that one together.
00:54:51
lizzue
just chuck them all in yeah and Tracy just doesn't really care about anything to do with her job does she she was sort of just like slapping random stickers onto tin cans and occasionally interjecting and you think what are you up to in there yeah she is ticking boxes
00:55:04
simonthomas
she will not pretend for anyone. She's like, I'm gonna do the absolute bare man. And i often think about the time that Sam came and was like, I've lost all my money by WhatsApp-ing you, or your fake WhatsApp or fake Facebook, whatever it was, and she did not care.
00:55:21
lizzue
She could not care less. Did I tell you or did I tell this podcast about the time that I nearly got scammed out of my house deposit and the person who's like Facebook had got hacked didn't care when I told them?
00:55:32
simonthomas
I don't think you've told either me or this podcast.
00:55:35
lizzue
It was really stressful. um But yeah, it was this lady at my church whose Facebook account got hacked. And then like they were messaging various people. It was completely my fault. I do not actually hold this lady from church responsible in that. Like I just like was really naive and gullible and thought it was actually her and she needed like access to my bank account or something.
00:55:56
lizzue
um And then when the scammers realized I had my house deposit in there because was about buy my house, they were obviously like, wow, we can take so much more money. I realized at the very last minute and like didn't send them any money. But then I messaged this lady and was like, just so you know, like this happened to me and like these messages were coming from your Facebook account. So like there's something going on. and she was just like, oh, yeah, someone one else said they were getting weird messages from me as well.
00:56:22
lizzue
And that was it. And I was like, yeah, it's actually like really scary.
00:56:24
simonthomas
Wow.
00:56:25
lizzue
It's been quite hard. She's like, OK, cool. like Oh, like i don't expect you to take responsibility for this, but I thought you might be a bit more like. gutted and like gosh gonna definitely change my password now but it just water the duck's back for her really
00:56:39
simonthomas
So, i mean, I've got it dead on with Tracy's attitude.
Humor in Everyday Scenarios
00:56:42
simonthomas
It is exactly how people are.
00:56:42
lizzue
yeah true it was strangely true to life that Tracy could not have cared less
00:56:46
simonthomas
That's so awful. and Gosh, wow, wow, wow. Yeah, because i mean I remember I get someone saying like, we've all had these random emails from, it was like an old email address I didn't use anymore.
00:56:57
simonthomas
And I didn't even know what the email said. I didn't think it was asking for money particularly, but I felt so terrible. I was like going into it, trying and to do everything I could to stop so it happening. But yeah cause yeah, I mean, even when it's not your fault, you do feel responsible because it's building, like the thing that has made the scam possible is like the relationship you have with those people.
00:57:08
lizzue
yeah
00:57:16
lizzue
yeah and like they i guess that's just what the scammers do they use the relationships that other people have and like use those trusted like networks ain't they yeah crazy
00:57:25
simonthomas
Yeah. um Right, I'm down to just a few ways and strays. How about you?
00:57:33
lizzue
Yeah, same.
00:57:33
simonthomas
Let me do...
00:57:34
lizzue
We always do this. This is so good. We're so in tune. What's your first one?
00:57:39
simonthomas
But I do have one that links actually to Jane Carey where she was like cosplaying with those glasses, the oil and what she was cosplaying. um and they were like, oh, they were like Keith from Packing.
00:57:47
lizzue
Keith.
00:57:48
simonthomas
it wass like how and And she was like, they're really, really strong prescription. How's Keith got home? How's he driving home with that is strong prescription?
00:57:56
lizzue
How is Keith managing the forklift?
00:57:59
simonthomas
Keith is not able to see right now and no one's thinking about that. So...
00:58:03
lizzue
Keith is a risk to himself and to others and he's handling heavy machinery. Keith needs help.
00:58:08
simonthomas
I can only think he's either got a spare pair specs or he sometimes wear contacts and sometimes wears glasses.
00:58:13
lizzue
I know, I fear that this is itself a workplace bullying situation.
00:58:14
simonthomas
don't know.
00:58:19
lizzue
Like, justice for Keith, you've essentially rendered him blind.
00:58:21
simonthomas
Does this have case? have. This is actually both wear place building and disability discrimination.
00:58:29
lizzue
It's disgusting what they're doing. But they are raising awareness.
00:58:32
simonthomas
The Amazing Awareness. Maybe it was long distance awareness week or something. So...
00:58:37
lizzue
Why did no one tell me?
00:58:42
simonthomas
Yeah, very hard for poor Keith from hacking. You?
00:58:44
lizzue
Yeah, bless him. Love and prayers to him.
00:58:50
simonthomas
um you
00:58:51
lizzue
um Me? Well, firstly, Lydia Watch. She's back and she had great hair. ah You wouldn't have noticed because you would have been staring your phone.
00:58:58
simonthomas
and Of course, they didn't.
00:58:59
lizzue
But Lydia's hair has had a rebrand.
00:58:59
simonthomas
Describe it to me.
00:59:01
lizzue
I can't remember, but i remember thinking like, oh, she's had a modern trim. um
00:59:05
simonthomas
nice
00:59:06
lizzue
And do you remember when um she brought a trifle around to Kim's a few weeks ago and Kim just like threw it on the floor and her dish smashed?
00:59:14
simonthomas
Yeah, that was really sad.
00:59:16
lizzue
It basically happened again, didn't it? She brought lasagna around to Kane Dingles.
00:59:20
simonthomas
It's true. It smashed it.
00:59:21
lizzue
Everybody is so mean to Lydia. They don't care about the food that she cooks and they're also smashing up her stoneware.
00:59:27
simonthomas
And like nice thing where it's not cheap and granted it probably wasn't that nice, but you know.
00:59:30
lizzue
Thank you. and it was it but probably have been in their family for upwards of 60 years.
00:59:37
simonthomas
it's true yeah poor Lydia because that is such a lovely thing to do for someone and if you don't want it just like just I mean I can't imagine Kim's eating a trifle at the best of times but you know dispose of it Kim is a trifle can you imagine it's just like yomping on a trifle don't know
00:59:41
lizzue
I know.
00:59:47
lizzue
ki is a trifle.
00:59:53
lizzue
Yomping. And actually, I do think that Kane maybe did it by accident, but that,
00:59:57
simonthomas
yes and that that was an accident yeah
00:59:59
lizzue
It would be tricky to then go back to Lydia and be like, thanks so much for bringing me lasagna. I'm really sorry, but your dish broke. she flat I can't catch a break right now.
01:00:09
simonthomas
Yeah, I do remember your friend of mine, Katie Stallman, who hopefully won't listen to this but now they did break one of my designers and didn't forget she ever knew because she she was trying to help clear up after she'd had dinner here and just put it straight from the oven into the sink and then poured cold water on it and then she like snapped into you.
01:00:26
lizzue
Oh, I'm so sorry.
01:00:27
simonthomas
hey
01:00:28
lizzue
That's really gutting.
01:00:30
simonthomas
If you are listening to this Katie, want my designers back. You've given me so much.
01:00:35
lizzue
um She did used to listen to this podcast. I expect she doesn't anymore, but.
01:00:39
simonthomas
Well, it would be a good way of finding out if she does, because she might message to me about the tiny dish.
01:00:42
lizzue
Yeah, true. This is your very own sort of Rebecca Vardy test.
01:00:46
simonthomas
ah So true. um I once went to a play that was just readings from the court proceedings of the Rukavadi-Kaleem Rooney trial.
01:00:57
lizzue
That sounds great.
01:00:58
simonthomas
Yeah, really enjoyed it. It was very funny.
01:01:00
lizzue
I'm going to play on Saturday, which um an old friend of mine wrote called Glitch, and it's about the post office scandal.
01:01:00
simonthomas
wow.
01:01:08
lizzue
Look it up.
01:01:08
simonthomas
Oh, nice. I will do.
01:01:09
lizzue
Yeah. Apparently it's really good.
01:01:10
simonthomas
As should all our listeners.
01:01:12
lizzue
Yeah.
01:01:12
simonthomas
Is that in Leeds?
01:01:14
lizzue
um It's touring all over, but I'm seeing in Harrogate.
01:01:18
simonthomas
Hmm. Oh, she's going to Harrogate. She's fancy.
01:01:21
lizzue
She's going to Harrogate. She's fancy.
01:01:24
simonthomas
um I, as mentioned earlier and in this podcast and others, I'm not a huge car guy. um but... but I knew when Kane something that was not true, recast this week, in that he said it was, Charity burst in saying, is it legal to drive with broken wing mirror? And he said, yes. And it is not illegal to drive the broken wing mirror, as long as two out of three of your two wing mirrors in rear view mirror are working.
01:01:54
lizzue
Is that so?
01:01:54
simonthomas
So, because smashed,
01:01:55
lizzue
Is that because it's happened to you?
01:01:57
simonthomas
I smashed my wing okay um by driving badly and googled this and it's fine. and What was then quite weird is I took, this is my previous car, I took it to the garage to get replaced and he put on one that And it paid quite a lot for him to like source it.
01:02:16
simonthomas
And he picked put one that was both a different colour and size to the other one.
01:02:20
lizzue
Interesting.
01:02:20
simonthomas
And you know me being me, he said I was happy with it and no further questions.
01:02:25
lizzue
I love it. I will actually pay extra.
01:02:26
simonthomas
okay He did say, oh you can get it sprayed for you if you want the right colour. And it's like, well, it's substantially smaller than the other ones. So it's really, at this point, does it matter?
01:02:38
simonthomas
But yeah, you you can lose one you can lose one of those three and it's still perfectly legal to drive as long as you got the other two.
01:02:39
lizzue
You absolutely had. Oh, great. Well, that's so good to know. Maybe I'll just smash mine up just because I can.
01:02:51
simonthomas
If you feel of rage, you need to take it out. I think if you yeah was you're practicing for beating up various weaker Emmerdale members.
01:03:01
lizzue
Got to get the hours in.
01:03:04
simonthomas
Yeah.
01:03:05
lizzue
I don't have much else to say. I i just wrote down, Kami is the only light in this dark, dark world.
01:03:10
simonthomas
Yeah, that's something sweet he is, doesn't he? Always.
01:03:13
lizzue
We do say that a lot.
01:03:15
simonthomas
I've got two more things. Well, I've got three in that wrote down Vinnie mindfulness, but I don't remember what that was about. Did he talk about mindfulness at some point?
01:03:22
lizzue
I don't know.
01:03:24
simonthomas
la this and all that um I feel like he did and it was out of character, but I don't remember what the context was.
01:03:30
lizzue
okay
01:03:30
simonthomas
Um...
01:03:31
lizzue
Sorry, I just have no memory of that at all.
01:03:33
simonthomas
ah one thing I wrote down was a line that Manpreet said which was being a mum is pretty relentless when was the last time Manpreet mentioned her child were you aware that had a child I'm pretty sure she's got a daughter um who I think maybe was in the cast briefly let's google this
01:03:43
lizzue
Can Anne-Brette have a child? What?
Character Dynamics and Community Gossip
01:03:51
lizzue
What?
01:03:51
simonthomas
ah
01:03:51
lizzue
She does not seem to be relentlessly mothering anybody.
01:03:54
simonthomas
no and she's got Aisha Richards is apparently her name Oh, I've got a feeling I could be i could be ah defaming someone here.
01:04:06
simonthomas
Potentially, she was in the cast briefly, but then i had to leave because of like old tweets that the actor had sent or something. Or she, like...
01:04:16
lizzue
God, hey.
01:04:17
simonthomas
I feel like she did something that meant she was fired, and I really hope that is not untrue. um Because... I could be sued.
01:04:26
lizzue
you will be sued for defamation.
01:04:29
simonthomas
Well, let's have a look. Oh, yeah, no, she was. She was sacked. She was only in the show, um i guess, almost a year, actually. And then she was sacked over historic historical, or rather, offensive tweets.
01:04:42
lizzue
Golly.
01:04:43
simonthomas
So that's interesting They should recast or forgive, I don't know, one of the two, because it'd be lovely for my priest to have some family
01:04:49
lizzue
Yeah, or they should at least stop Mampreet claiming that she is relentlessly mothering anybody.
01:04:54
simonthomas
Yes, and so I always say, like, yes, and I say more International Women's Day than on any other day. Being a mother is relentless, unless you're in Emmerdale and see your children once every five to seven business days.
01:05:09
lizzue
yeah at least five to seven absolutely actually one of the other things i was going to say earlier and forgot um was that uh and it is manpreet related um yeah she just sort of told everybody in the shop about the appointment she had with laurel so
01:05:12
simonthomas
Yeah.
01:05:26
lizzue
It is lovely that any NHS staff member in Emmerdale is so staunchly committed to never considering keeping the Hippocratic Oath.
01:05:33
simonthomas
It wouldn't cross their minds. It wouldn't sit right with them. let say
01:05:37
lizzue
No, it would it would be a heavy burden to bear and they shan't bear it.
01:05:42
simonthomas
And my final thing actually is in the shop, just a little name of a fake serial in the background, which was, who I've just deleted it now. can't remember it. it's like It was nuttastic something, like nuttastic flags or nuttastic clusters or something.
01:05:56
lizzue
That's difficult.
01:05:56
simonthomas
It's like, nuttastic a word that we want to be using?
01:06:00
lizzue
No, I never want to hear anything being described as nuttastic.
01:06:00
simonthomas
a And I did Google it in case it was a real cereal, and obviously I'm now on a watch list. But I...
01:06:12
simonthomas
and Yeah. Because weirdly, it was because it wily it was like next to Kellogg's Corn Flakes. So it's like some of these are clearly real, and some of them are nuttastic.
01:06:17
lizzue
Oh.
01:06:19
lizzue
Maybe they are have got the um like advertising with Kellogg's but not with Crunchy Nut. And so they're like, this one's actually Nut-tastic.
01:06:25
simonthomas
Maybe... Maybe that's what it is. Maybe Kellogg's are doing a bit of SponCon, and they're only doing it if you put it next to other fake cereals.
01:06:31
lizzue
Maybe.
01:06:35
simonthomas
Because they were both alllexic facing out in a way that felt quite strange.
01:06:36
lizzue
guess.
01:06:38
simonthomas
like It's a lot of shelf space you're taking out with two big boxes of cereals facing outward.
01:06:42
lizzue
I really wanted it to be visible.
01:06:44
simonthomas
Yeah. And it was, if anything too visible.
01:06:46
lizzue
It was oh so visible. It was nothing if not visible.
01:06:51
simonthomas
um Right, well, should we do our ah random person?
01:06:55
lizzue
Yeah, and hopefully it's not a child who we've never seen.
01:06:57
simonthomas
if what we have gone over an hour, so it doesn't matter.
01:07:01
lizzue
True.
01:07:01
simonthomas
The person is...
01:07:01
lizzue
Oh,
01:07:03
simonthomas
Oh, it's Bob. Bob.
01:07:05
lizzue
you were slating Bob earlier saying you could kill him.
01:07:09
simonthomas
i Yeah, well, I think I said I could ah take him down. i don't think I was actually going to
Bob's Role and Relationships
01:07:13
simonthomas
murder him. but Well, you might remember, if you listened to those who listened our end of year awards, that Bob was my controversial axe choice.
01:07:17
lizzue
how much you hate Bob.
01:07:26
simonthomas
so And it's not that I hate Bob. I quite like his little finger guns. I like that he he's like someone who watches Emmerdale once a month. He doesn't really know what's going on, but he's sort of invested.
01:07:40
lizzue
He just pops up and he's like, cool, taking it all in. um
01:07:44
simonthomas
yeah he you don't get the sense that he knows what any of the other villagers are experiencing in their hectic lives
01:07:51
lizzue
No, he's very much been trapped inside the same four walls of the B&B for however long. doesn't venture out much. Although, didn't he briefly start working behind the bar at the wall pack?
01:08:01
simonthomas
well I think Zepozov he does work around the wall back now but maybe someone's just on sick leave or something and he had to pop him
01:08:04
lizzue
Oh, okay.
01:08:08
lizzue
have to step in. Yeah, I like Bob. I think he's just a bit lovable, bit stupid. he makes some unusual choices. Do you remember when he said that, like, if he'd known about the slavery ring, he never would have gone out with Celia?
01:08:23
lizzue
youre Like, if he knew about the silly ring i hope that the slavery ring, I hope he would have done a bit more than not going on a date.
01:08:23
simonthomas
yeah yeah this heary yeah yeah maybe he thinks like not going a date with him is the worst punishment that woman can go through and over time he's had lots of like wives and children in the show and now technically he does have one of his twins i forget which one didn't die in the show but we never see them um
01:08:30
lizzue
Like, presumably he would have alerted some sort of authorities.
01:08:39
lizzue
True.
01:08:50
lizzue
I don't know who that would be.
01:08:52
simonthomas
it's either Kathy or Heathcliff, I think Kathy survived yeah he died ah so yes we see they are called Kathy and Heathcliff yeah um
01:08:54
lizzue
Oh, it's Kathy. Heath died.
01:08:59
lizzue
and did not realise that Heath was short for Heathcliff. I can't believe he had twins and called them Kathy and Heathcliff. That's the worst thing I've ever heard.
01:09:09
simonthomas
and obviously he was with Wendy until she who she sold secrets about Ellis in the newspaper or something I forget some reason she left but um
01:09:18
lizzue
Oh yeah, I'd forgotten she even existed.
01:09:20
simonthomas
Yeah, she was she was a bit of a of straying.
01:09:21
lizzue
well
01:09:23
simonthomas
So yeah i i think he either needs some family bag, except the sort of, I guess April is sort of his granddaughter, not but not really.
01:09:34
simonthomas
um But yeah, besides that, he just seems a bit of a way of straying.
01:09:41
lizzue
But I think he's got enough of a stake in the village that he can be a wayfandle stray and it's fine. Whereas there are some characters like Billy where you're like, oh, you don't really have any links here and it doesn't seem like the they really know what to do with you either.
01:09:54
lizzue
Whereas like Bob has a clear role of like he is light relief.
01:09:54
simonthomas
Yeah,
01:09:57
lizzue
People like think well of him.
01:09:59
simonthomas
yeah true. Yeah, true, to true, true. Maybe he's fine as he is. Would it be weird now if he had a story? Maybe or maybe it would just feel strange if he did.
01:10:10
lizzue
just throw you right off.
01:10:12
simonthomas
like I don't know what to have to do with this. I guess he did have a story when his child died, but we weren't watching then, so didn't see that. And that's the last thing he's done other than marrying, not marrying, dating um with senior.
01:10:25
lizzue
Celia.
01:10:27
simonthomas
ah yeah because he's like I'm trying to think who he has had a relationship one point he had an affair with Laura which is quite upsetting thought
01:10:34
lizzue
goodness. Yeah. And he was briefly with Bernice again when she came back.
01:10:37
simonthomas
oh yeah that's quite strange and disgusting and also quite fun maybe we need to kill two birds and he can start relationship with Tracy or Billy or someone yeah
01:10:39
lizzue
Although that wasn't really a relationship, was it? Can
01:10:47
lizzue
you imagine? That would be the biggest unexpected twist if he started going out with Billy.
01:10:52
simonthomas
Yeah, that would be would be a lot to take in, wouldn't it?
01:10:55
lizzue
It's so much to take in on so many levels.
01:10:59
simonthomas
Whereas Billy and Tracy, actually, maybe they should together. But um it wouldn't wouldn't be as interesting, but it would
01:11:02
lizzue
It's too predictable.
Portrayals of Relationships in Emmerdale
01:11:05
lizzue
don't
01:11:05
simonthomas
also be less unsettling.
01:11:07
simonthomas
yeah Because often they're like you know the gay couples in Emma Del Duce tend to be like young, attractive couples who get a lot of headlines, and it's all quite exciting. And certainly a relationship between Bob and Bill, he could not claim to be...
01:11:22
simonthomas
Well, one of them's young and attractive. I don't think Bob is.
01:11:24
lizzue
It would be very odd.
01:11:25
simonthomas
Yeah.
01:11:26
lizzue
I've seen stuff online saying maybe Dr. Todd and Mary are gonna have a thing.
01:11:30
simonthomas
Oh, I could see that. Yeah.
01:11:32
lizzue
Yeah, both grey, I suppose.
01:11:32
simonthomas
Interesting. They're both certainly ladies of a certain age. say um
01:11:37
lizzue
certainly
01:11:40
simonthomas
Yeah. Well, good for that, I suppose.
01:11:42
lizzue
Good for them and good for Bob, in a way
01:11:43
simonthomas
Although Mary's been through so much. if you if it were Is Dr. Chuck going to turn out to be an evil person in general or just like a bit of a bully? Because one of those you could sort of
01:11:51
lizzue
I don't know, I, yeah. Whatever the case is, I don't want to marry with her because Mary's too pure for this world.
01:11:57
simonthomas
Isn't she? And Mary is lesbian, not bisexual, right? She's not going to end up like landed with Bob, is she?
01:12:01
lizzue
I don't actually know. I don't know. i think she yeah she's certainly pitched as lesbian.
01:12:09
simonthomas
Pitched. We're pitching who's lesbian this week, Mary.
01:12:13
lizzue
think a lesbian pitch.
01:12:16
simonthomas
Oh, gosh. Well, there we go. That's Bob. And we've I guess we've already done our farming content, so we loved it.
01:12:20
lizzue
Yeah, there was lots and we loved it. There was a moment when there was a scene set in Cain's kitchen and the sound of cows mooing was almost so loud that I couldn't hear the dialogue.
01:12:33
lizzue
I thought, oh, farming content.
01:12:35
simonthomas
someone's put a switch too far off a switchboard to say
01:12:38
lizzue
Yeah, I think so. They really like piped the bellowing cow noises through too high
01:12:44
simonthomas
and what I will say about being someone who has lived near cows at various times in my life it's not that incessant I mean unless they're actually being milked or giving birth it's not like they're isn't moving all day long well that's true but who's tending to them no one works at this farm
01:12:55
lizzue
It's not sort of constant, but I guess maybe they were being milked and or giving birth. It has been calving season.
01:13:04
lizzue
The cows kind of just get on with it.
01:13:06
simonthomas
You did say that.
01:13:07
lizzue
Yeah.
01:13:08
simonthomas
Well, thank goodness, because they're not going to get any help from...
01:13:10
lizzue
No one else is helping them.
01:13:12
simonthomas
Otherwise, Lewis is going have wander up there and do something which is...
01:13:15
lizzue
In between snogs.
01:13:19
simonthomas
Yeah, maybe they experiment with which animals running out of different barns will take their fancy.
01:13:25
lizzue
tick the box yeah i see that
01:13:29
simonthomas
Yeah, I mean, discussed, we don't really want them to be together, Vinnie and Lewis, but it was fine.
01:13:35
lizzue
yeah i think it's quite sweet it's fine but i and you love like good friendships and portrayals of friendships and it's just a shame when every friendship that they put on the show turns romantic
01:13:41
simonthomas
Good penchamps.
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
01:13:48
simonthomas
We'll end with this though, because we we should end. Cami did suggest he might be moving in That'd be good.
01:13:52
lizzue
Yeah, and we really want Cami to move in.
01:13:55
simonthomas
really want that. We want that.
01:13:57
lizzue
Get Cami in the boys' house.
01:14:00
simonthomas
Please, Ros can move up, but it was Steph something when she comes back. um Right, well, thanks for listening if you've got this far.
01:14:08
lizzue
I doubt you have. it's been an hour and 15 minutes.
01:14:11
simonthomas
How? How?
01:14:13
lizzue
How? Like, there's nothing to say.
01:14:17
simonthomas
And we're not cutting anything because we're just sticking it live right now because it is quarter past ten right now. is
01:14:21
lizzue
Yeah, it's I can't be editing this.
01:14:25
simonthomas
Do get in touch at dinglealltheway.bard. Thanks for those who emailed over the past couple of weeks. Got a couple nice emails. Actually, didn't tell you about it, actually, so go and find those.
01:14:34
lizzue
I was gonna say, I didn't know that. But i do I do have access to the inbox, I just don't get notifications and so I never see them unless you're like, hey look at this email.
01:14:38
simonthomas
That's true. That's true.
01:14:42
simonthomas
Yeah. James actually sent us some photos of what the top of the stairs looks like at Home Farm and Charity's house.
01:14:48
lizzue
No way.
01:14:49
simonthomas
So go check that out.
01:14:50
lizzue
That's amazing.
01:14:51
simonthomas
Yeah.
01:14:52
lizzue
I love James.
01:14:53
simonthomas
It's a good egg. Right. Goodbye.
01:14:58
lizzue
Bye.