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All things #Robron w/ The Robron Podcast!
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It's a crossover special babyyyy! Today, Simon and Lizzie are joined by the very funny Sunshine and Scooter from the Robron Podcast - to talk the history of Robron, our favourite and least favourite Robron moments, and what we hope for the future.
Do get in touch at dinglealltheway.pod@gmail.com
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Introduction and Excitement for Crossover Episode
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everybody! We are doing a really exciting crossover episode this week. This is a collab between the Dingle All The Way podcast and the Rob Ron podcast! Woohoo! Woohoo!
00:00:11
Speaker
My name is Lizzie and I co-host Dingle All The Way with... Simon, hello everyone. And we are joined by... Scooter, co-host of the Rob Ron podcast. and Sunshine, also of the Rob Ron podcast.
00:00:26
Speaker
yeah so we've got a transatlantic call going on right now we're spanning continents we're spanning time zones we're excited to be here and to talk about emmerdale and more specifically to talk about rob rob yeah i'm super excited when this opportunity came up yeah no definitely i think it's really fun how yeah so much happens online now that you can just like meet people virtually and you don't even have to hop on a plane and we can still just be talking about Aaron and Robert across the world.
Social Media and Podcast Community
00:00:58
Speaker
Right? It's crazy. we've We've met so many people ah through our Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. It's been really cool to be like, yeah, let's chat with somebody across the pond, you know, and it's just, I don't know. It's fascinating to me. I love it. I think it's really cool. I think there's no boundaries on something like this and that makes it even more fun.
00:01:14
Speaker
i know. even Even our avatar, you know, the little cartoon of Aaron and Robert doing a podcast together, that was done for us by someone yeah on Twitter. Yeah. No way. There is no geographical constraint. There's someone called Jenny, Scrapyard Boyfriends, on Twitter. Yeah, no, we had a fan that knocked out our our avatar, and I was just so entertained by that. I loved it.
00:01:36
Speaker
I think it's just so cool. yeah And it brings out, like, really cool pieces of everybody that engages. I don't know. I'm just, I'm fascinated. So thanks, guys. Thanks for reaching out and setting this up. This is so cool. Yeah.
00:01:46
Speaker
No, it's great.
Discovering Emmerdale and Rob Ron
00:01:48
Speaker
I thought we could start just by introducing... ourselves as individuals and like when we started watching emmerdale our emmerdale journey um and then we can also chat about like how did we start podcasting So yeah, maybe Sunshine Scooter, you guys can introduce yourselves first. And yeah, how did you get into Emmerdale?
00:02:08
Speaker
Actually, all I'll go first because I'm like, ah you know, like 10 years ago, 10 years ago, Scooter hits me up. And so our our friendship is funny. It's mainly like a keyboard friendship. We started off talking on forums a really, really long time ago about Volkswagens.
00:02:24
Speaker
and And so we don't have a lot of vocal kind friendship. Like we don't like hang out in person, have coffee or anything like that. We're just online chatting in the forums. And we camp together. um And that started a long time ago too. And one day Scooter reaches out and he's like, you need to watch this um the sister group. And it wasn't even the episodes online. It wasn't like the full Emmerdale show. It was the Rob Ron clips. And he's like, you got to do this and we got to do a podcast. and And so I started – 10 plus years ago, watching only, um is it Aaron Dingle on YouTube? Aaron Dingle. Aaron Dingle on YouTube. And I just watched the Rob Ron clip. So I knew nothing about any of the other characters for a really long time. And we had podcasted years ago about that. And it was not, it was a long time, but then there became a point where I was like, they are mentioning people and I am missing pieces. And I've got to start watching the whole show because there are definitely other things happening that I'm not getting.
00:03:22
Speaker
And ah so then I was then i was hooked. and then And then not. And then so I can let Scooter fill in the rest of that. And then we're back. And so that's it's great. So hi, everyone. I'm Scooter.
00:03:34
Speaker
um So my journey started...
Podcast Evolution and Hiatus
00:03:38
Speaker
first with a different ship on on youtube i so i started watching all the clips of ellius and larry from a i want to say a finnish soap opera and then they eventually broke up and whatever and so there was a giant hole in my life and uh facebook showed me you know like aaron and robert and i was like what what is what is this So then I fell down the rabbit hole of Rob Ron on the internet and I started watching all the way from Aaron and Robert. I didn't watch like the Jackson stuff. I admit I've never seen the Jackson stuff.
00:04:11
Speaker
I'm sitting here going, who's Jackson? That's another rabbit hole to go down. You'll find out who Jackson is. Okay. Yeah. Jackson's going to come up. Don't you worry. Yeah.
00:04:23
Speaker
But so I fell down the rabbit hole of Rob Ron and then I suggested to Sunshine, and hey let's do a podcast. And originally it was kind of just to be us to have fun. And, but we were going to like, but, but we need to have something that we do every podcast to connect it. So like, let's just talk about Rob Ron for like a little bit in every podcast. yeah And then it just turned out that the only people listening to us were like the Rob Ron people.
00:04:46
Speaker
And so we're like, Oh, well now we're, we're just a Rob Ron podcast now. But we we weren't originally billed like that. We weren't originally billed like that. That's why our original podcast name was Indie vs. Audi because it was just like us between the two of us. You do listen to our podcast that is explicit. So just mindful. We're a mess.
00:05:03
Speaker
But we're being we're being nice and clean. We are. We've got a good like composed adult composure. We're with the Dingle All The Way podcast and they're not crass like us. yeah We're going to behave ourselves.
00:05:17
Speaker
You're amongst English people now. It's basically like being the royals. Exactly. The English people are all poised and they're better than You guys keep it together, North Americans.
00:05:28
Speaker
I don't know. Our last episode, episode we were incredibly tired. Well, um there was an episode two episodes ago where I was on tranquilizers. You know...
00:05:41
Speaker
we we We rolled with that podcast, basically, until Aaron and Robert broke up. Yeah, we rolled with that podcast until they broke up. And then the pandemic happened and everything just went bad. And we tried. bad And we tried for a while, but then we eventually gave up. Because without Rob Ron, we're like, eh. We eventually got sad. It's over. And we got sad. But then you know several months ago, I just skimming through Facebook. And I still follow all the you know Rob Ron sites or groups. And they're like,
00:06:09
Speaker
Robert is coming back on Monday and I was like no way my gosh Scooter blew me up and I immediately I'm texting Sunshine I'm like oh my god Robert is coming back and then Sunshine immediately is like this podcast is back and I'm like yes I think it does yeah
Podcasting Popularity and Personal Experiences
00:06:23
Speaker
it was like within five minutes we were like on Amazon ordering mics preparing a schedule getting all ready were ready to go and so this time we just rebranded we're like we're just straight up the Rob Ron podcast that is just who we are this time we gave on our prior shenanigans I mean, I'm sure you guys feel same way too. It's like fascinating that people want to hang out and listen to us rammer or yammer about a soap opera that, yeah you know. Yeah, I am truly so surprised that anybody like listens to our podcast. had low, low, low expectations. When we started, we thought maybe like 10 people will listen to this.
00:06:56
Speaker
So I have been watching a watcher of Neighbours, an Australian soap opera for like 25 years. And there was a time when I was watching it at Australian pace. And I was like, no, I need to start watching it British pace because we were like six months behind or something.
00:07:10
Speaker
So thought I'm just going to stop watching online. But I can't just go cold turkey on soap. So I need to start watching A-Sope to fill that gap. And I was like, well, I'll just watch Emmerdale for a bit because at least it's set somewhere beautiful. Because, it you know, it's in in lovely Yorkshire countryside.
00:07:25
Speaker
sunshine you were saying you don't know who jackson is let me tell you before there was rob ron there was arson aaron jackson and so that was okay everything at that point like this is like when aaron you know when he first realized he was gay when he came out jackson was the man who helped him realize that and yes he did end up getting hit by a train And that was sad for him. But it was before that happened, there were some like really beautiful, beautiful times.
00:07:54
Speaker
Yeah, he he handed he had an assisted suicide storyline. It was like, there were you know, Aaron's been thrilled up. but um But Lizzie will attest, when we went on the tour, when we came to Jackson's grave in the in the little graveyard there, because the graves are all named in in the sort of oh my god graveyard, that i I had a moment before Jackson's grave. Simon spent a long time at Jackson's grave, and I was like, are we moving on yet? Or are we just like... i love that. It hit me hard.
00:08:20
Speaker
so but So yeah, I watched for probably eight-ish years, and I actually stopped watching before Robert left I I think I watched I think it's about a year before he left I just got I think I just got bored of Emmerdale I'm so sorry Emmerdale um was like I'm just I just i didn't need this time back in my life uh but then when I went to visit Lizzie uh who as you said lives near the set um I thought well it's been six years since I watched Emmerdale but you know it'll be fun to go and see the set why why not um
00:08:51
Speaker
little did I know of course about Jackson's grave and in what that would mean to me but um but yeah like let's go and then got hooked straight back in you guys started watching again in like May of this year is that correct?
00:09:06
Speaker
but we That's when we started doing the podcast was like May of this year, but we started watching like a year before that. A year
Emmerdale Visits and Storylines
00:09:13
Speaker
before that. Okay. yeah a year okay we did Yeah. We took a year of knowing that we liked Emmerdale before we like, we can commit to a podcast because we like, are we, because you literally suggested a podcast quite early and was like, are we still going to be watching Emmerdale in a year's time? We should wait to see we actually want to watch it.
00:09:30
Speaker
How funny. I'm the most recent like Emmerdale watcher of us all because i had not ever wanted to watch Emmerdale until Simon was like, I'm going to come visit you in Leeds.
00:09:42
Speaker
And can we also do the Emmerdale village tour? And like, I live very close to the Emmerdale set. And it's like a fun fact about Leeds that people bring out. is like, it's the place where Emmerdale is filmed, but I'd never really bothered watching it.
00:09:58
Speaker
then Simon was like, I'm going to come up. I want to do the village tour. And I was like, Sweet Simon, I have no interest in that all, but I will do it because I love you. um And so I decided to watch a few episodes just to like understand what I was looking i was like, if I'm going to pay £40 to look around the Emmerdale village, I'm going to at least like know what some of these landmarks are.
00:10:18
Speaker
You're going to a little recon, sure. And so I watched a few episodes, just literally haven't stopped. And that was probably 18 months ago, roughly. um so yeah, I've been watching like every day since then. And ah like Like you said, Simon, I think fairly early on, I was like, I think that our conversations about Emmerdale are really amusing and that people would like to hear these. We should do a podcast. Then we were like, we're just not sure if we're going to carry on watching it slash like, would anybody listen? It's probably quite lot effort. Let's not bother. And then in about May, I come up.
00:10:47
Speaker
How did it actually finally happen, Simon? How did we decide to actually do it? Were we like, let's just bite the bullet? I think we just spoke that because I think in the end I was like, yeah, no, you're right. We should do it. We are hilarious. And then that was because like I've been doing a podcast about books for 10 years. So my like podcast audience is like elderly ladies who like talking to my book, listening to me you talk about books. So this was like a whole different type of podcast, whole different demographic.
00:11:08
Speaker
No, I love it. And it's actually i love Simon. Like nobody else can see this, but we can see each other. And I love that you literally have a mountain of books behind you right now. Like it's just love it. yeah every wall in my house is like this yeah i live in a very small flat and there's three and a half thousand books in here i don't know i'm a sucker for a library though so i used to be a librarian say they so then you guys committed from that point forward it was all that time at jackson's grave that got you emotionally invested and you were like that's it the podcast is happening absolutely yeah
00:11:40
Speaker
it was a beautiful... I recommend going back and watching that like early early Aaron and Jackson. I mean, i obviously, I'm a big Rob Ron fan. i was i love Rob Ron. But I think, you know, your first love is always the one that shines brightest, isn't it? You know, jack Jackson and and Aaron is still ah still have my heart. You still have a soft spot for that. I wondered. I was going to ask you, you know, who you prefer seeing Aaron with. But the whole train thing probably makes that one not very probable of ever coming back. So...
00:12:08
Speaker
Yeah, he's definitely dead. It's going to be hard to come back from that. That'll do it. You never know. His twin brother could come back. I know. Maybe he jumped and nobody saw it. I don't know. You know, there's always a possibility when it comes to soaps, but i I'm secretly hoping that Rob Ron gets some time. He was paralyzed for maybe six months. Oh, yeah.
00:12:29
Speaker
Okay. yeah And then then there was an assistant suicide. oh that's the suicide story okay all right all right he's gone gone the way they normally a super suicide wasn't just like pushing him from a train even in this country um i do think they're like nothing's off limit no absolutely not i drove past i was in this really kind of random bit of leaves recently i had to go to Wix which is like a bathroom kind of sales place anyway that's boring on the way home i drove past a funeral directors called Joseph Tate funeral directors and I was gonna take photo but I was in charge of a moving vehicle so I did not but I might look up on um like street view and send it around and be like guys he's branched out he's like right maybe that's fascinating direct his own funeral home
00:13:19
Speaker
That's a great way to build the Tate empire. It really is. Yeah, so true. He is always like just doing random business and we don't know what it is. And now we finally got to the bottom of it. Now we know. Now we know. Makes sense. Yeah.
00:13:31
Speaker
Now, I was going to comment that there's ah an American soap that, you know, back in the 90s when I was a kid, um my mom used to watch. And I remember there was this guy named DeStefano on Days of Our Lives. And that guy died like five times.
00:13:44
Speaker
Like he was buried alive with an oxygen tank in his coffin and somebody dug him back up. And like there was just so many ways that he died, but he always came back. Like, you know, six months later, this guy would pop back up on set. And it's like, how many times you get to die? He's like a video game character, you know? and So I've learned that on soaps they can come back. Do think the actor just had like a few trips that he was planning and every time he came back, he was like, actually, I could like be alive again if you wanted. Yeah, I was like, are we having contract negotiations? Like what's happening here? You know, I mean, as a kid, I didn't think that hard about it, but I just remember thinking like, oh, he's dead. Cool. And then I'm like, wait, he's back again. I'd be like, I thought he died again. was like, how many times is it now? And like, honestly, when I lost count of how many times he died, was like, that's it. I gave up. He's never dying.
00:14:28
Speaker
Okay, we are back. We just had a brief little interlude of various sort of connection problems, audio problems, but we're all back in the room in an online sort of way.
00:14:39
Speaker
I think it might be fun if we go back and like inter interject some like hold music.
00:14:47
Speaker
That sounds like a lot of editing work. I don't know about that. We still don't have a theme tune. I can't muster up hold music. We keep asking people to listen if anyone does music, if they can make a little theme song for us, like little 15, 10 second clip of something.
00:15:03
Speaker
Better than us singing, because when that happens, it's kind of... And like Dingle Jingle is right there for us. So, you know, like the wordplay ready. Oh my gosh. One of my friends sent me a voice note of him singing the Emmerdale theme tune and I was like, should that maybe be our podcast?
00:15:19
Speaker
I love it. That's awesome. That would be great. It's kind of like, I find it funny because it is quite bad, but imagine if someone was just listening to the podcast and thought like, wow, they actually think that's really good. Or we just get like a cease and desist from Emmerdale being like, this is copyright. You can't do that.
00:15:35
Speaker
I think that that's that's how you know you've made it, though. I think so, too. You finally get your first cease and desist. Yeah. I want to be banned, at least shadow banned on Instagram from them.
00:15:47
Speaker
I mean, to be honest, I feel like Simon's already more famous than
Soap Opera Comparisons and Insights
00:15:50
Speaker
the rest of us in that, right? Because you had your postcard um incident, right, Simon? I had my postcard incident. I was in Inside Soap magazine. rabbi dgo yes So he's already published. So they know who he is. So much more famous than us. Yeah. And that was, and I didn't even watch him at it all that point. and I must've been like, I don't know, 16.
00:16:10
Speaker
And was just like, this is my moment. I could get a 10 pound check from Inside Soap magazine. And I did. And I've, it's all been downhill from there.
00:16:21
Speaker
I don't know about that. But you definitely, they definitely have you on the list. Yeah, they're like, they've been keeping an eye for the past 25 years. They're like, he's, he's onto something here. It went quiet for 20, 24 of those years, but he's back.
00:16:35
Speaker
He's back. At last we get more content from this man. He's whimsical and we love that. That's what I'm sensing from them. right how funny yeah did okay well should we try to get back on the train ah on and yeah oh my gosh it's too soon but um yeah what you were saying about um about the like american characters coming back from the dead all the time like i was interested what do you what have you found is the biggest difference between american soap operas and and this british soap opera and
00:17:09
Speaker
I think what time they play on TV. ah okay Ours, ours are, have always been historically for a stay at home housewife. So they've always played around lunchtime.
00:17:20
Speaker
Yeah. Like if you're the kid that stays home sick, then, then you get to watch soaps with your mom. Gotcha. And I think the next big thing is that you guys record like six weeks in advance.
00:17:32
Speaker
Yeah. Whereas like in the United States, they're literally recorded like the day before. Oh, wow. Really? Like it's practically live. Yeah. It's really close. yeah And from what what I've seen, like American ones hire exclusively beautiful people. And then if they can act, it's a happy bonus. Whereas the British ones do seem to go for like more normal looking people alongside a few. I agree with that. I agree with that. And i don't know a fireractor I don't know if I would say that they're all beautiful people, but they're definitely all something of that caliber style of people.
00:18:01
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. big having that sort of vibe yeah Yeah. And then the other thing that I noticed is like, I, I found it weird, like for, for like months when I started watching it I couldn't figure out the pattern of like, why is there only 20 minutes a day? And now there's an hour today. And like, I didn't understand what that was all about. And so here it is, they get an hour every day. They have their hour block. That's so long. Yeah. That's amazing. yeah I mean, granted it's commercials too. So, you know, maybe 40 minutes of actual video time, but yeah, they get their hour block. It's always their hour um and that, on every five days a week.
00:18:32
Speaker
And you'll probably have seen that we're going down from January, so Emmerdale will only be half an hour every day rather than having that one hour on Thursdays from January. Oh, really? I did not know that. Yeah. That's the day that all the big stuff happens.
00:18:46
Speaker
Yeah, we won't get the Thursday big drama anymore. I guess I just spread the drama throughout the whole week. I know, I always look forward to Thursdays. That's the big day. It does make it a little bit easier to keep up, though.
00:18:58
Speaker
it's commitment to watch it every single day so emeraldale is an evening soap opera is that correct yeah i mean i basically just watch it online yeah so because they release it on youtube at 7 30 in the morning now that's quite quite a recent thing yeah everyone that like we talk to on twitter they they watch it like the incident comes out online i don't think anyone waits to the evening it plays live on tv I watch it at my lunch
Viewing Preferences and Historic Moments
00:19:22
Speaker
break at work. say Yeah, yeah that's what that's what I do too. I watch it on my lunch break. And it being released on YouTube is the best thing ever because before we had to, we had to i I paid for an account on BritBox so that we could watch the soap opera. wow And I paid for a year in advance because it was cheaper.
00:19:40
Speaker
And like one month after I paid, ITV is like, well, now we're releasing everything on YouTube. But you're giving me the opportunity to watch some really fun British gardening shows. And so I'm into it. Oh, yeah, there is. There is some fun.
00:19:53
Speaker
There was a mini series I watched on it, too, that I was like, why did i watch this? Because it pissed me off and made me so sad and crying all the time. What was that? ah Man, I don't remember the name of it. It was it was these two gay guys and they wanted to adopt a kid.
00:20:09
Speaker
Oh, I watched that, yes. um and then And then one of them dies, like in episode two, and then, yes, that one. Yeah, I didn't watch the third episode because I was like so sad after the second episode. It's like, i can't watch another one. I'm sorry, I'm out. I mean, you have to watch the third episode. it I mean, it's sort of a happy ending.
00:20:26
Speaker
Not really, but sort of. mean, they end up a family, which is good. Except for the dead guy, I guess. Except for the dead guy. See, look, they've already caught it. They caught the Rob Ron derail.
00:20:39
Speaker
yes Yeah, see? This is It's truly difficult to say on topic, isn't it? We haven't even started talking about telenovelas from Mexico. We didn't started.
00:20:49
Speaker
I mean, our last one had a tangent about the menopause and eye drops. So, you know, like we're not... I was on board with that storyline. You've got something there. They're going to talk about Liam's prostate issues. I feel like the menopause story has its place. So in. And I'm ready and willing to be the menopause expert anytime they need me. LAUGHTER I mean, Lord knows the world needs one. So we're here for it. And, you know, men should always be the ones to comment on women's lives. We know that from the internet. Absolutely. That's how it works.
00:21:20
Speaker
It lies someone saying Yeah, I guess that's the other thing, too, about American soaps. You don't really find them on YouTube. No.
00:21:31
Speaker
No, you don't find... Yeah, they're definitely like network owned and very copyright funny about it. They want their advertising money. Yeah. Oh, you know something that's kind of a fun bit of trivia about some American soaps is as these guys are not filming, something I learned from another friend of ours, a lot of them tour doing like comedy and like...
00:21:53
Speaker
bit shows, you know, like where they're singing and stuff like that at comedy clubs during like the day on like Saturdays and Sundays. So I have a girlfriend who goes with her aunt that's in her seventies and she loves these male soap opera stars. Like you said, the pretty people or whatever. And so there's like a group of five guys from a specific soap opera and they have a comedy bit that tours.
00:22:13
Speaker
And so they come through town like three times a year and ah you you get all the old ladies in there, you know, gaggling about the guys on stage and they sing silly songs and stuff like that. So I don't know if the, if the Brit soap opera stars do that kind of stuff too, but.
00:22:28
Speaker
I think they get like one day off a year. Yeah. They're like, they got, they are never allowed off set. So like they might turn up on like, well, in fact, strictly do you know strictly come dancing it's our version of dancing with the stars yes uh in fact i believe that was first session and there's nikki nikki who's ruby and caleb's son is nikki milligan he's in the cast this year and that's that's his thing oh cool i saw that because on reddit somebody had posted a picture of him being like you wouldn't recognize nikki now and then there's just a comment underneath it like yes i would i recognized him he looks exactly yeah
00:23:01
Speaker
He looks exactly the same. and He's just got dark hair. It's like, yeah, of course I'd recognize him. It's like, literally the same man, but great. Shall we talk about Rob Ron?
00:23:13
Speaker
Yes, let's do it. We thought that we could split it into looking back, like historically... what do we love about Rob Ron from years gone by? And then think about like what we're seeing for Rob Ron at the moment. And then we'll end by thinking, what do we see in Rob Ron's future?
00:23:30
Speaker
So yeah, do you want to, kick us off you guys like yeah what do you what have you loved about rob ron from years gone by what do you think it is that's really like captured people so much about rob ron personally i think they just have insanely good chemistry together yeah i know i know simon's very obsessed with chemistry on screen he loves chemistry yeah chemistry with anyone and everything Yeah, I mean, and you you can't fake it, right? they just have it.
00:23:55
Speaker
They do. Oh, in fact, can I just comment on your last episode? we Sorry to interrupt you immediately. But you when you said like, oh, maybe if we'd seen Aaron and John get together, we'd see more chemistry there. And I can tell you that A, there's never been any any chemistry and B, their entire relationship happened off screen. Like they went from hating each other to being in love.
00:24:10
Speaker
entirely off screen. Oh, weird. It was weird. They like met in a lay-by and slept together in John's van and then they like appeared to just like visibly hate each other and then suddenly they went camping and sat on a log and they were like, love you. It was like, I guess there was some progression behind the scenes but at no point did we see it.
00:24:25
Speaker
That was a total filler story. a totaler story It was horrible. yeah yeah Even more reason they can't keep the California too. I'm really bummed about that. but John is horrible.
00:24:36
Speaker
We hate him. we hate but We hate him. We hate him a lot. Their chemistry is amazing. Their chemistry is amazing. and ah Danny Miller is so awesome. he is like and We were talking...
00:24:48
Speaker
our podcast, which will get released tomorrow. Um, we were just talking about he's just so good with emoting feelings in his face. Like, you good and not to talk about like how that man can just cry on command. Oh yeah. Those instant teary eyes.
00:25:04
Speaker
So good. And, and I always loved it when, whenever like you see them hug, like especially classic Rob Ron, like, Aaron goes in, hugs, and then he just like sinks into Robert. Yeah. It's like, oh.
00:25:17
Speaker
Yeah. They really are believable. Yeah. They're believable. They're just so believable. And like I i i know their are characters on screen, but it makes me believe that like they truly have like this awesome friendship offline too, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:25:30
Speaker
I feel like that's what we see too. Like there's gotta be something truly organic there for it to come off on the screen like it does. And I mean other other things I've loved about Rob Ron Pass was when the I love you baby. They have had so much fun on screen. Like they really do have fun and their banter is fun. Like they're so sassy with each other. And it just is more more believable.
00:25:57
Speaker
in the history of Rob Ron, I think. Yeah. Yeah. How about you guys? um I will confess that I, because I've only really been watching M&L for like a year, i don't know loads of the historic Rob Ron stuff. So I have been slowly, and I mean very slowly, working away at one of the Rob Ron playlists that's on YouTube.
00:26:16
Speaker
and which I guess is like maybe how you got into Emmerdale Sunshine. um So yeah, i I don't know if I've seen them at their best. I feel like most of what I've seen them...
00:26:27
Speaker
them like having I don't know ah difficult time and then all of the stuff like yeah Chrissy and all of those things I don't think I've seen them like super stable but I think well you haven't even gotten through Ratbeka yet yeah exactly but I think what i what i do see between them is like you said like the chemistry that they clearly have together and that
Character Development and Story Arcs
00:26:50
Speaker
there seems to just be this like magnetic pull between them that almost like they don't even really understand of like even times where they don't particularly like each other they still love each other um and I wonder whether that's kind of like something that's resonated with people and made them like more invested in the show I don't know
00:27:07
Speaker
yeah we used to credit the writer Maxine i think is what you used to say you used to say Maxine used to write their scenes so well oh she did yeah yeah I miss her like this past week when they finally got back together I'm like Maxine would have done that better all they did would be like oh let's do it and I'm like okay whatever oh yeah we'll get to that but it was so disappointing yeah I think I would be like obviously the you know I think what think about day and night is chemistry on screen and um they've got oodles of it. And i think because as, as documented, I was a huge arson fan, but that was Aaron, like trying to find his way, not really knowing himself.
00:27:43
Speaker
And when it it came to the Robert storyline, he was so much more confident and self like self assured. And he obviously has lots of like issues, but, um but he was, he was more like going to get it in the relationship or like he, it felt less like he was experimenting and more like, he was like, okay, i really want this man.
00:27:59
Speaker
they do bring out solid qualities of each other uh and sadly like because i mean i watched all these things when they were on screen 10 years ago whatever and i haven't re-watched them i it is this like the horrible times that stand out the things that really upset me so i have to like put those behind me i often think about when robert mocked aaron's self-harm scars and i found that one that one hard to get past that was like that was a tricky one but um But then you get things like, you'll make me think I fell for a quitter, which, i my gosh, i remember when that happened, and like screaming at the the yeah ah the TV, like it's happened. And then, you know, the forums were ablaze. We were so excited.
00:28:36
Speaker
i stopped watching the final year, so I don't think I saw much of their like settled time together. But I love ah love Sassy Robert. I love when they're like flirty with each other. I think they do have that when they're just having a sort of B storyline where they're just having fun with each other. That's my favorite one for sure.
00:28:53
Speaker
And, you know, I have to add on that because you reminded me somehow, Simon, with their their older chemistry, like another part of what really just made me fall in love with them was the Liv storyline and bringing Liv into their family and like their family vibe that they created.
00:29:09
Speaker
um with live was just, I don't know, man, it was just really awesome. It was just really awesome. ah great And so when all of that, when all of that fell apart, I was, I think that was part of how we went and like, stop watching for a minute because we were just really sad at the whole thing, um, going away, all of it altogether, but they were just really lovely with live and together as like partners that worked with her. And then when they got married, it was just like this lovely family. And I remember the episode where they introduced Liv. I watched that like three times when it came out because like they was very such it was like all about them for that day. And then, you know, their initial like not getting on. And it was such a sweet episode. And she in she was, oh my gosh, you she was such a good actor at that age. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah
00:29:53
Speaker
Yeah. She killed it if you met Liv yet, Lizzie? no not even once actually so you have so many good things ahead of you but i know so much stuff like set aside some proper time to work away at this yeah quit your job without you i think is robert still married to chrissy um well in the latter stages in like legally yes but um but they're living together and like she kind of hates him so aaron already did his dramatic he was with me. yeah yeah yeah Leaving on the counter. it say yeah
00:30:24
Speaker
Yeah, and I did love that. It was it was great. um But yeah, I am quite excited to see like you said, them in their more like settled stakes. I feel like, and maybe this can be our segue into talking about what's going on for Aaron and Robert, like present day.
00:30:37
Speaker
I feel like we got a glimpse of that when they were like cooking breakfast together. ah it was just a scene like such a nice scene. And I was like, oh, like this is what it's like when they're good and when it's fun and they're being sassy, but they're just having a really nice time. And then obviously Vic walks in and is just like, so like this kind of feels like old times. And I was like, oh, that's I think a glimpse of like how it used to be and hopefully how it will be. Would you agree with that?
00:31:01
Speaker
I do.
Nostalgia and Current Storyline Reflections
00:31:02
Speaker
I just got all sappy. oh yeah That was the best scene. like the exploding chocolate cake in the oven. like so the extreme country like What have they done to that cake? I don't understand. but yeah i don't know how you i don't know how you destroy an oven with a chocolate cake. but just I believe Erin could do that. yeah right know They have some really awesome kitchen scenes that they share. where it's just like you said like it's just It's just sweet and believable and their banter is hilarious. and Watching watching aaron give robert grief about not having bacon and then robert being like well you know where the store is like i don't know it was just yeah great it it really is it was a very throwback feeling you're right lizzie it really was i got that too i got very giddy about that even though it was a very short little scene i did i did the vibe can i ask and there are wrong answers uh what do you think about victoria
00:31:50
Speaker
ah Right now, I'm on the fence with her. She really pissed me off recently. But she's also... I mean, she's apologized about...
00:32:03
Speaker
She's the only person who apologized. She's the only person that has apologized. Chaz, I'm talking to you. yeah so we We both titled episodes of our podcast, Everyone Knows Robert and Accepted an Apology. I love that. does. Except for matt mac your Mac. Mac is the only one who does. He even tried to call Robert.
00:32:22
Speaker
I know he did. try sweet sweet sweet max sweet pull that Oh, and because I'm going to derail it one more time. I love Simon pointed out that in their podcast that how does Robert have so many phone numbers memorized?
00:32:35
Speaker
was he doing it Oh, but you know, you know what someone pointed out to me on Twitter? is And you guys can tell us if this is true. Apparently phone numbers there stick with the house.
00:32:46
Speaker
yeah Yeah. So that is his childhood home. Yeah. So he lives so he probably still knows the phone number. I guess no one has a landline anymore. So I don't know like if that's still true. but certainly And he did call landline. He called a landline.
00:33:00
Speaker
yeah That's true. That's a good point. Okay, I'll let him off that one. That one's fine. Yeah, but the rest of them, i'm like, you're right. like how is And i I told Scooter that day, I was like, clearly we need to memorize a few more numbers in case we have a bad night. like we need I know, I was thinking, I said it the podcast, the only phone number I know is the one that my house my parents moved out of 20 years ago. like's and suppose those I don't think we can get away with, excuse me, can I have my phone really quick? Get the number out there.
00:33:29
Speaker
Can you just help me out? Yeah. I would love to know Simon if you did end up having a night in prison like what the people who now live in your parents old house would do about it like could they help because my dad was a vicar he lived in a vicarage so there's still a vicarage so i would get through to a vicar so you know they're duty bound to help me Yeah, they're literally paid to pay a lot.
00:33:51
Speaker
They would totally help. Or at least be able to know how to reach your dad. How funny. yeah Well, you still have hope, Simon. The rest of us are in trouble. I mean, I think otherwise I wouldn't thrive in prison. It's not bad, you know.
00:34:05
Speaker
But the phone number is your sorted. Right. I really love Vic. um I think that she's, I don't think the storylines, I don't think that it would work without her in it. Like she's an anchor to all of it, even though sometimes she irritates me. And I've seen her in some roles that she played so solidly, like even back when um her assault happened. And, um you know, I really, i really fell in love with Vic during that period of how she handled that. And,
00:34:34
Speaker
I mean, she does irritate me sometimes a lot with how she lacks faith in Robert, but she's also always eventually coming around for an olive branch for him. And she just wants to love her brother.
00:34:44
Speaker
like And so that part of her character is really sweet. Yeah, she's my favorite character on the show. i just love... She can do no wrong in my eyes. But I mean, she... Yeah, she has sometimes been an obstacle. She's sometimes been a cheerleader to Robert. And um I can see... i mean, when she is an obstacle, unlike, you know, Chaz just being horrible, it is more like I can see how...
00:35:04
Speaker
right now you're being toxic or something and usually she's right i think when she's trying to be like yeah and isn't the actress is going on is she leaving the show or going on break because she's having like a baby or something oh she must be on maternity leave at some point yeah yeah they usually leave for like a year don't they but um oh wow and they usually go to prison i was gonna say is she somehow gonna go to prison is she gonna go on a cruise like brenda just don't know Yeah, so many women in Emmerdale go to prison for a year.
00:35:33
Speaker
is just amazing to me. I just recently learned, I think through your guys' podcast, that Moira had killed somebody too. And I was like, I just didn't know so many women killed people on this show.
00:35:45
Speaker
Yeah, that's a very British way of life. Lizzie's killed someone. Oh, yeah, two, three times. Yeah. but just Happens all the time. That's women's work here.
00:35:56
Speaker
How funny. Even more recently, some of my favorite Victoria scenes were current. Like when they chased the goats, when they were getting the goats moved around. my gosh. She just cracked me up. She cracked me up in that whole scene. So I feel like she brings a lightness to everything, but then she also... She's also oddly never working or anything either. Like, I don't, we we were just talking about like themmore like yeah like, none of them have real jobs. every way just Including the police department.
00:36:22
Speaker
Yeah. Even if you have a job, like no one ever thinks of maybe going to work. They're always, or if they are at work and someone's like, but should we go to the pub for a drink? They're yeah, of course. like You have a job. I'm glad to hear you guys say that because to us, it's like, man, the British have this really awesome job ethics. Yeah. Yeah, would be frowned on if I just left my job to go to the pub for three hours in the middle of the day.
00:36:44
Speaker
and And I liked the day where she was like, oh, motherhood, it's a job that never ends. I'm like, yeah, it absolutely is in reality. But like, you've not set eyes on your child for weeks. Like this is, in Emmerich, motherhood is the easiest thing in the world.
00:36:55
Speaker
I did laugh. You guys have the, what is it? The invisible child or the forgotten child party yeah that you do, which is hilarious to me. when always crot up at How like maybe the child in real life should be like six, but they come back at like 16 and it's like, they're old enough to be the young adult drama and the, anyway. Yeah.
00:37:14
Speaker
and I mean more and more children are being palmed off on Claudette which would be horrible like I feel like every episode now it's like where's Ivy like she's with Claudette and like oh that's not gonna be good for Claudette or the child she also has job you know yeah true she's meant to be working full time at the surgery so what's going on there
00:37:35
Speaker
I would love Adam to come back. I like, I loved Victorian Adam. I loved the little light foursome of those
Character Speculations and Story Milestones
00:37:42
Speaker
ones. And i mean, he, I don't know how much you know about his offscreen career, but he became like a TV presenter here.
00:37:47
Speaker
So he like, he's, he's relatively busy, like doing TV presenting. That chance of his return. So, I mean, his game show just got canceled, so it's slightly more likely now. I mean, I wouldn't be mad. I wouldn't be mad.
00:38:00
Speaker
i love do that Yeah. yeah Scooter has a soft spot for Adam. So maybe that's where that's where Vic is going to go. She's going go with Adam on the lam for a year and then bring him back. Maybe. Who's going to watch her kid?
00:38:11
Speaker
Who's going to hire you? Is that Claudette? Claudette for a year. won't remember that she has one. It's far away. Obviously, Uncle Robert and Aaron are going to be watching them. Oh, is this a precursor? That's true. They do do better with a child. They do do better with a child in their life.
00:38:24
Speaker
So before Seb comes back at 16. Yeah, Harry and Seb can play together. Yeah, I like this. Yeah, I miss most of, like, the Seb engagement because I guess, like, he was with Rebecca most of the time when i was before i before she disappeared.
00:38:37
Speaker
I guess the Seb engagement was really, like, a very brief period, honestly. Yeah. yeah There wasn't much to it. It wasn't super long. Okay, I was trying to, like, research this whole, like, do they want to adopt at one point? And I was like,
00:38:49
Speaker
yeah I was trying to research this storyline. ah Oh yeah, they tried to adopt but they couldn't do it because Aaron's criminal record. yeah I mean, I love Rubber on but I wouldn't let them near an adoption form.
00:39:02
Speaker
That could go for anyone in the Emmerdale community, honestly. They would not it through. Matty were looking to adopt. It's like, you've just been to prison. like It's not going to happen. yeah It's a tricky process. They are definitely not going to make it.
00:39:18
Speaker
Oh, it's too funny. um Something we wanted to um give everyone a chance to say was their best and worst Rob Ron moments as we're thinking about looking back. And you can also, obviously, we can use this as a segue to talk about what's happening presently, if what's happening presently fits one of those descriptions. So, yeah, I don't know who wants to start on that.
00:39:38
Speaker
I'm going to say for my best Rob Ron moments, one of them is right before the car crash where, you know, they go off on the lay by they have that little talk. yeah Where Aaron finally says, you know, you're amazing. And Robert finally confesses, you know, what happened with his dad.
00:39:57
Speaker
yeah and they have their nice little moment that was a that was really good and and honestly it's as horrible it sounds like the whole gordon thing was really good because robert was really good to aaron yeah and aaron was just being a phenomenal actor during that whole whole part and then of course there when they got back together the whole aaron speech yeah was peak robber on right there that was amazing it was yeah they very much had a you had me at hello moment yeah yeah yeah they did one of my favorite moments is also that scene where aaron tells robert about being raped because like they're both killing it so much in the acting but also you just see like
00:40:42
Speaker
because I think at that point they weren't together, but he's like, they were big friends. No, they weren't together. Yeah. I mean, you just see how much Robert cares in his eyes and he's like I don't know what to do now though. And I'm trying to be like, it was just everything about um the way that they help each other through vulnerabilities was so, so present in that scene. And it was so beautiful.
00:40:59
Speaker
Yeah, i think I think that some of my favorites still is the the time that they spent with Liv. I just felt like they were really in their groove. Like it was just they were in their their preferred rhythm. I felt like that was when you saw them loving as a family,
00:41:14
Speaker
And, um you know, and then their wedding, their real wedding, when it finally happened was just, it was such a great moment of relief and happiness and joy for them. loved I still haven't seen their wedding. I need to do that. It was ridiculous. But because I stopped watching before they got married, I just never went back. Oh, that's right. Oh, wow.
00:41:32
Speaker
Yeah. Maybe we should watch that together, Simon. We should. That'd be nice. Enjoy for the first time together. Yeah. I feel like I got a glimpse of that, like, helping through, like, times of real struggle.
00:41:44
Speaker
even just in like, since Robert came back to the village, you know, when he was like smashing up the bedroom. Oh, that was a good scene. And I was like, it's always him, isn't it? Who like, he's the one that can actually talk him down and be like, I hear you.
00:41:58
Speaker
i see what you're going through. like I don't know. And it goes both ways. Yeah. Yeah. They just like get each other in a way that other people don't like they are just each other's person. And you're like, cool. That's you're the person who's always going to help because you get me.
00:42:13
Speaker
Yeah, which is such a change from the original story. like I don't know if it's my least favorite, but I remember a scene when Aaron, i can't remember why Aaron was in hospital, but you know, it's a home from home for him. But when there was a, he was, Paddy was counseling him about how Robert would never leave leave Chris. He would never love him. And Aaron was just like, yeah, i'm just going I'm just going to take whatever I can get because I just, oh my gosh, Aaron, you deserve so much more than this. And Robert knows that you're feeling like this. He doesn't care really at that point.
00:42:40
Speaker
And it's, oh my gosh, we've come so far since then when Robert would do anything at all for Aaron and he so cares about his happiness. um So that, yeah, just the transformation. And that's the great thing about Soap is that we can see this transformation over like more than a decade.
00:42:53
Speaker
ah Oh, totally. Yeah. The growth factor is real. Yeah. perhaps I think that's what I was going to say is my like worst Rob-Rom moments. I know I haven't actually seen as much of it of as any of you, but I think maybe this is why Aaron was in Hostel.
00:43:06
Speaker
But when, um when, Aaron and Robert were like in a random cottage in the woods and he like secretly recorded him from like saying loads stuff about them and then he was like ah I'm gonna release this and then didn't he have a gun and he like chained Aaron to a radiator the radi there was a whole thing and then he shot Paddy and then it was when maybe that maybe it was a different time he was in hospital but yeah I remember that conversation with Paddy so Aaron was just like I'm just gonna take what I can get and I was like this is literally so toxic and so awful
00:43:37
Speaker
So I'm glad that it moved on from that. But I would say personally, the radiator chaining incident was my so far worst Rob Ron moment. Absolutely. There was a period that was that period of Emmerdale in general, i think just went a bit over that one a lot over the top.
00:43:53
Speaker
And, you know, there's things that I just have to forget from Robert's history, like the time he hired a hitman on jazz, or the time he tried to, like, drown Paddy in a grain silo. I mean, can you blame him? Honestly.
00:44:05
Speaker
but Like, i'm I'm very, like, yelling at someone. I feel like hiring a hitman on your on the mind you loves mom is, like, is that something we can, in real life, come back from? That's a bit excessive. know. She's borderline asking for it, but um I think one of my most hated Rob Rod moments is when Robert slept with Ratbeka.
00:44:25
Speaker
Oh, yeah. The Ratbeka era was just my least favorite. That just made me so angry on so many levels. Can someone give a very good rundown on who she is? She is Chrissy's sister.
00:44:37
Speaker
okay. So you haven't met her yet, but she comes into the picture and Robert used to um cheat on k Chrissy with her. That's awful. I don't know if they were ever together like solo okay I think they were maybe maybe I don't remember they did have a She got pregnant and Robert made her have an abortion And then she got pregnant again this before all the Rob Ron stuff? It was there's before the Rob Ron stuff It was early brew Early brew for them yeah But Rebecca yeah but That makes me so mad yeah Because Robert did not was not able to give conform Informed consent No
00:45:19
Speaker
he was too drunk yeah our early podcast i had a lot of i mean equally groaning frustration for john i had for rat becca and still call her rat becca today like she doesn't get to have a real name although she was a classic one in where they did try to do both things like because then she was meant to be lovely with her relationship with ross and like you know she was like is she a villain is she not is she is she victimized and they never really settled that question for me. it was no we never really. but I mean, once they give her brain damage, she was more.
00:45:46
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. have a quiet And the Ross and Ratbeck, I think was just strange to me, but um, you know, i mean, I will believe Ross in love with anyone. so yeah, Ross just convinced me as soon as he does his puppy dog eyes, I'm like, okay, I get it. You're in love with them. Sure. Who are they? Don't care.
00:46:00
Speaker
Fair.
00:46:05
Speaker
People want to share their thoughts on what's going on for Rob Ron at the moment in Emmerdale. Oh, my gosh. Well, so ah you said you guys have just recorded an episode about this. We did. I hope you don't mind repeating your thoughts.
00:46:17
Speaker
but um Oh, no. no i We've been waiting for so long for Robert and Aaron to get back together. And it just sort of happened casually. was like, you want to? And he's yeah, i guess, yeah. What was that? Yeah, I didn't.
00:46:29
Speaker
That pissed me off. Yeah, we just talked last week about it. Last week I was like, so what do you think? are your predictions? we're like, oh, by Christmas. they're going to have like some back and forth. And and then no, they're like, yeah, okay, let's do it. Let's get back together. It was so lame. mean, I get it.
00:46:45
Speaker
I get it. It's almost like a sympathy ah or like not sympathy, like a comfort. It's like a comfort move. Like Aaron needs wubby. Like he needs a security blanket. And so it's like a reach.
00:46:58
Speaker
I couldn't tell whether it was that Robert didn't want to be too enthusiastic because he was feeling so conflicted about Kev. he's actually Because he's got a husband. Yeah, exactly. like Inside, he's probably just like, oh my word, this is everything I want, but I can't.
00:47:11
Speaker
But it's also not, out because like right now is not the time. Or whether it was just really badly written. I'd literally put that I think it's a combination. yeah I think it's a combination of all of the above.
00:47:24
Speaker
Yeah, and and the the lack of lead-in. I feel like they lead in really well, but they do crash hard. like I give them that. They usually do crash together hard. Yeah.
00:47:35
Speaker
And the fact that Robert was like, it's not time yet. And then literally like three days later, he's like, now it's time. This is okay. I've changed my mind. guess it's fine. I don't think, I'm not counting this as them getting back together because I think they're going up immediately. Yeah. I think Kev's going to make himself too visible. And then Aaron's going like, what the heck, you're married. And then there'll be like a wee, as Taylor Swift would say, are never, ever, ever getting back together.
Relationship Dynamics and Dishonesty in Soaps
00:48:02
Speaker
right then I think we might actually be on for Christmas after that if Robert was just honest and just told him yeah Scooter has a prediction that Kev's going to find out about Aaron and then he's going to try to harm Aaron and I think if the lack of telling puts Aaron in harm's way then Aaron's going to just be like yeah I'm done I'm done because I literally just almost got killed by my husband and I'm not trying to get killed by your husband now too yeah like please will husband stop trying to kill me yeah it's it's a yeah 100% I think it's going to be a thing where Robert has to like
00:48:37
Speaker
choose to protect Aaron when Kev's there or something like that. and barros I mean, let's be honest. Robert needs to make some money, so he's going to have to follow this Kevin thing through. true. Well, we we were talking about this on our podcast because, you know, Aaron, he's pretty shifty too. Like, if he was just honest with Aaron and being like, know, I thought I was going to be in ah and the slammer forever and I got married, and but I don't really love this guy and he's dying and money's going to come in and Aaron, I feel like if he just explained it.
00:49:06
Speaker
I think Aaron would be like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Aaron would be like, cool. Get us some money. Let it run its course. I mean, it's a solid plan, right? It is a solid plan. Especially if he was honest about it. You know?
00:49:17
Speaker
I basically spend my whole time watching Evadale. Like, why can't anybody just be honest? Like, everything that happens is because of a lie or because of like, I didn't want to tell you this thing because I was scared of how you would react. And you're like, if everybody just learned to sit down and be like, I've done this thing and I know it's really bad, but this is why I did it.
00:49:36
Speaker
I mean, there would be no drama and we wouldn't watch it. But I'm just like, come on, guys. Just like talk to each other and everything will be okay. It doesn't need to be this way. And there's so many lies that don't even need to be lied about. Literally. yeah Like this, the prison husband thing doesn't need to be lied about. It doesn't need to be a big deal. He would totally understand if he just explained it.
00:49:55
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. it makes but and Frankly, Aaron's still married at the moment, too. so Yeah, I mean... you can't get mad about that. Yeah, I mean, technically, Aaron is still married. Aaron has been married. Aaron sent Robert back to jail while being married. like Literally. yeah like The husband drama has been very one-sided from the other direction for a very good period of time. feel like...
00:50:17
Speaker
I feel like Aaron wouldn't have a leg to stand on with frustration even if it came up and had to be discussed except for the fact of I wish you would have me when you got home. Yeah. but they've also never had an opportunity to sit down and like have a one-on-one where they actually got into their feels, you know? Yeah. They haven't had that.
00:50:33
Speaker
Yeah. So i I think it's going to get messy. I'm selfishly really entertained with these tidbits. I told Scooter that I'm so excited to watch right now because I'm not just angry because like the last few weeks I'm just like angry before I even watch because I'm just mad at John and his existence and like his appearance on the show.
00:50:52
Speaker
And so like watching Emmerdale, I would get into this kind of fit of frustration before I even watched it and And that's gone, which is lovely. So I'm and I'm entertained to know that we might get little surprises like the breakfast scene that we had right now. So I just got to take what we can get at this stage.
00:51:08
Speaker
ah Yeah, but I don't think it's gonna I think it's gonna get appropriately. So for Aaron and Robert's history, it's gonna get messy. But I'm still predicting by Christmas, they'll be good and ugly sweaters will be happening. I do love ugly ugly sweater. We keep saying Christmas as well. yeah it seems to be the way.
00:51:26
Speaker
I do think that um someone on the Emmerdale storyline team just heard the expression prison husband and did not know what it was. And that's just got really out of hand. Like, why are they... Like they keep referring to him as a prison husband. it's like, he's just a husband.
00:51:39
Speaker
think That's not what that means. No. No. and And we keep, on our podcast keep going off on the legality of like, are you allowed to marry and be with your husband? I was wondering that. We're even in the same block.
00:51:53
Speaker
didn't know you could get married. like You're not really allowed to do anything in prison. So why were they allowed to literally get married? I mean, my mom married a guy when he was in prison. didn't realize it was possible.
00:52:06
Speaker
i But that's here. I don't know if it's the same stuff. I don't know. but You know, but at the same time, it's like, I can't imagine that they would be allowed to stay in the same cell together or like block together. Like if it was on the down low, then sure. Yeah. But the fact that like we do need to get him married. Obviously the guards know like, yeah. Charles came in studio to do the officiate, I assume. i have watched.
00:52:33
Speaker
plenty of like really lame netflix prison shows where they separate you if you get handsy like they're just like they keep you separated so i don't know how you get married legally and then hang out in the same area together so that kev can protect robert like there's no way that would actually unfold and i don't get it i currently can't work out whether rob uh robert like loves Kev, is in love with Kev, like if he's just like grateful to him, is it's bit ambiguous. i know Yeah. We just had a huge conversation about this. Okay. i think he's just grateful. think it's the gratitude factor. It's like the gratitude for protection and and then the trust that he was able to have with Kev over the protection.
00:53:16
Speaker
think there's some big gratitude there. And I also feel like he can't say no because he doesn't want to lose the protection. So yeah it's a little bit of both. of He's grateful and he's scared to not go with Yeah. And I told Scooter, I feel like it's almost like a familial love. Like it's like a big brother love. Not that that's the storyline, but like, but like Kev did protect him. Kev did, they have had some emotional chats. Like there's obviously been some deep conversation between the two of them.
00:53:41
Speaker
And so they did bond in that way, but not like in a soulmate way, but like in a best friend kind of way in the moment. I think that's my I sort of like Kev at the moment. I i mean, I know he's meant to be like the obstacle, but I actually am quite a fan Kev.
00:53:55
Speaker
No, not really I don't know. He's kind of crazy. Yeah, I really don't like him, Simon. I'm sorry. I'm not with you. um might He's controlling. I think i think he's great as long as you're as long as you're being a good dog. He's great. But the second you turn and do something that he's not happy about, i think he's going I think that he can be a very scary guy.
00:54:11
Speaker
I think you're probably right. i guess i just haven't i just I guess I just haven't seen it yet. Maybe at the moment I'm just like, he's nice to Robert, but maybe maybe he's not going to be. I mean, you saw it a little bit when they were visiting in the and the visiting room. He went off on one of the other prisoners.
00:54:24
Speaker
Look, maybe that prisoner needed to have his legs broken. I don't know. Maybe he deserved it. I mean, maybe he does, that's why Robert can't make him angry because he doesn't want to be the one that deserves to have his legs broken.
00:54:38
Speaker
Yeah, because I think he did make mention, Kevin made mention of like kill how it would be a stab to the heart. like It would just devastate him if he found out that Robert was... elsewhere or not in love with him anymore so yeah he's made some references to it not being taken well but he did offer to kill John which was nice so yeah which you know we're cool with that but go for it maybe that'll happen who's to say I was about to say maybe that'll happen for Super Soaps Week but I found out there isn't one this year and what it isn't?
00:55:08
Speaker
I know I literally because Simon and i keep being like maybe that'll happen in Super Soaps Week and we literally have not been able to find yeah we haven't been able to find any information about it online and then I found out They're not doing it this year because they they they've spent all their budget on this Emmett Hill and Coronation Street um like crossover, so they're not doing it What is a crossover? yeah they're mixing the two soap operas together. Oh, know they're going to blend?
00:55:30
Speaker
Yeah, and i don't know if you saw this. This is quite fun. So in Coronation Street, which neither of us watch, ah this week they had a poster for John as a missing person. they're up a crossover. didn't know that!
00:55:41
Speaker
Oh my word! But fun that the actor who played John was in Coronation Street and was like how captive freighters and then was murdered. So like, so they recognize him. He was previously in that?
00:55:54
Speaker
He was previously in that show? Yeah. So basically someone did to him what he did to Mac who like kept him locked away. And then like six months later or something, murdered him. He's a screen freighter. So, um,
00:56:05
Speaker
Yeah, it'll be interesting if he's the crossover because they'll be like, you died. Why are you here? yeah
00:56:12
Speaker
Wow. That's very curious. It'll be like Doctor Who where they just conveniently ignore right an actor that's been reused. Right. How funny. Yeah, but this is January crossover, which will be apparently when that's the kicking off of them only doing one hour for, sorry, only doing half an hour for each of the two soaps on a Thursday. I see. Yeah.
00:56:33
Speaker
and That's our sort of stop to get us ready for that. So I'm intrigued. I mean, i mean for people like us who don't watch Coronation Street, that we just haven't got a clue who half the people are. but Yeah, I don't really care. And I'm a bit gutted about that because I think the internet's going be going wild for it And i'll just be like, sure. Like, I don't know who these people are. It means nothing to me.
00:56:51
Speaker
Yeah, that sounds like the opposite of a super soaps week. That sounds like it will slow down storylines and I won't know the people on the screen. All my predictions are based on there being a super soaps week. Oh my gosh. there's not, then I don't know what's happen. maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's still happening. But I don't know. And I was thinking all the things that we keep saying...
00:57:08
Speaker
Maybe that happened in Super Soap Week. For example, Gabby and Vinny revealing their secrets. have just They just keep happening. I don't feel like they're saving big revelations up for anything this month. That's true. They've done a lot of revelations in the past few weeks.
00:57:22
Speaker
I don't know. There's still the whose baby is it? and That's true. i don't know if that's big enough for Super Soap Week, though. I think it's quite big. It is pretty big. It's big enough that it could. I had a prediction that Kev was going to kidnap Aaron and then John was going to save Aaron by kidnapping him from Kev and Robert was going to have to kidnap Aaron back home.
00:57:42
Speaker
Yeah. You've really storyboarded that one, and I see. Yeah. Yeah. There's several. Got to connect the dots. hey But you know, they've got lots of budget cuts. ITV's not doing great. They keep axing people for money. Oh. Yeah.
00:57:56
Speaker
and Maybe they've had had to reel it in a bit. yeah fair enough well I think that they've learned that Rob Ron is not one to cut hopefully they've recognized that that's there must be so many people who only watch for Rob Ron that surely they're not gonna be getting rid of that anytime soon yeah yeah I mean they can get rid of Celia and I would be okay yeah honestly Celia can kick rocks that would be just fine thank I have a short list of people that can kick rocks and that would be okay.
00:58:26
Speaker
Yeah, we have a like, we are okay to like ja we can lose Jay. That would be embarrassing. He doesn't bring much to the story. no no and And what he does bring is absolutely awful. I hate it. Although he has CCTV footage of John like showing up and being locked in, I still firmly believe he has a copy of that somewhere. Yeah, that's crazy. definitely there's a copy of it somewhere. now It was still in his recycling basket. I literally saw it. He didn't empty his trash on the Oh, you did see it? You caught that?
00:58:59
Speaker
Well, it's just that like you literally you saw it go into his like trash can bin or whatever it is on the desktop. But you can still recover files from that. Yeah, he didn't empty it. But that's what we learned from John's email. Like, if you've deleted something, it's over forever and there's no way you've ever done You know, I have opinions. Yeah, you definitely can't write new emails. Yeah, i have opinions. It's the one and done, you know. Yeah.
00:59:20
Speaker
but Once in a while, I get really irate at the um total plot hole of the, like, I'm like, you got, them seriously, guys, come on. Come on. Come on, please. yeah It takes half a brain cell to know that this is not how it really works, but okay. Okay. All right. Fine. I saw him delete He deleted it. I don't understand why you think that matters.
00:59:41
Speaker
but Right. But Scooter and I on that email delete thing, I don't know you guys heard, we discussed like, okay, so John's a murderer, right? Like he's killed Nate. The cops now know that he had kidnapped Mac. He had locked up Aaron and drugged Aaron. Like they know all of this. And then the guy's going to call and go, Hey, I know where a dead body's found. Also, I know who did it. And they're going to be like, okay, so one murder like calling in to tell us about a dead body and its location. And we're somehow supposed to believe that it wasn't you. Yeah. Yeah. So we don't understand why Cain and him didn't just turn around and be like, no, nobody's going buy that story. Like, you've sold that ship. Yeah, so true. I didn't think of that.
01:00:23
Speaker
So you guys watching for the whole thing when Antony got murdered and all of his storyline? No. No. We didn't start until Robert came back in the village. Oh, sure. So Antony raped Ruby when she was a teenager repeatedly.
01:00:36
Speaker
and She did just share that. no yeah, because she told Manfree that. And so, yeah, um Ruby and Aaron had some really beautiful scenes where they were like, he was saying like, this happened to me too. And, you know, we can be there for each other. Okay. It was really lovely. I figured that there was something between him and Ruby because of her random appearance at the hospital and how heartfelt it felt yeah between the two of them. So I figured I was missing something there.
01:00:59
Speaker
Yeah, and basically the reason that I think in your last episode you were wondering like why does Aaron care so much about like whether Anthony's body is found or or something like that. But basically, and could I can't fully remember this actually, Simon. I think I'm right in saying, Ruby in like a fit of rage beat Anthony up and he was very close to death, but then Aaron went there and finished the job.
01:01:22
Speaker
so was aware was it Was it the other way around? was It was the other way around. Aaron beat him up. Oh, Aaron beat up and Ruby went and... Yeah, that's so true. Ruby finished it off. Yeah, yeah so either way, both of their DNA is all over Antony's body.
01:01:36
Speaker
so that's why it's affair. So they need to know it's not going to be found. Oh, it's off because Antony basically made some sort of reference about how yeah if Ruby hadn't liked him raping her, then she would have stopped it. Like your dad would have... Like you should have done with your dad or something like that. Oh, snap. So he triggered. So yeah, he's exploded.
01:01:54
Speaker
And he thought for a while he had killed Antony. until it's sleep Yeah, we wondered how it was a family affair. It's like, why is Moira going to jail? Why is Chaz going to jail? Why you know why is everybody an accomplice to this experience? Everyone's involved. Yeah, yeah, yeah. every yeah It takes a village.
01:02:10
Speaker
it was ah It was a very Dingle murder. except for sam and he's always the good guy he doesn't oh i love some crazy shenanigans he's so sweet he's dead yet and i just can't imagine sam going to bed and just having a big long sigh every night you know that's so true i love that although he has also been to prison for something although i forget what so yeah oh yeah they mentioned it once i don't know what for though I could see him being very defensive of somebody. If somebody is that he loves gets hurt, I can see him raising a pitchfork. Oh, he um he killed his wife. but It was like a sort of, ah again, another assisted suicide, actually. So she had cancer. So they did.
01:02:51
Speaker
Yeah. I think he went to prison for that. So he went to jail for a good thing. He like sacrificed himself. Yeah, that's wife could Man, that's Sam. And it's so funny hearing the actor speak because he is so like posh in real life. And he's got this thing.
01:03:06
Speaker
very like classy voice. really? I've never heard him in real life. Yeah. He doesn't do much, but like if you try and find him on a chat show or something, it's, it's so hard to imagine it's the same person. Even if you're funny. Yeah.
01:03:19
Speaker
How funny. We see a very good actor. Yeah. I do really like him. He is one of my soft favorites. Like I don't really have much of a reason to, but I, I just, I think it's his kind heart that continues to pop in, you know, just like very genuine.
01:03:34
Speaker
He has a moral code and he sticks to it. Yeah. Really much.
01:03:40
Speaker
Yeah, you don't get that much in Emmerdale, unfortunately, but he does have a lot of food. No, and you also don't get much farming, as you guys have pointed out. Sadly not. I just want to see some more animals. That's all I want.
01:03:53
Speaker
Well, Vic wanted to open up a petting zoo. Exactly.
Practicality and Personal Preferences
01:03:58
Speaker
yeah and as i so past like there no one's going to pay to pet an animal when you can do it for free in the next field that is true that's true yeah in a farm community a petting zoo doesn't get you very far it really doesn't and hopefully she'll realize realize that sooner rather than later Even if she had to print a dossier because everything has to be done in print. Like no one emails anything. She loves to have a clipboard full of random bits of paper. That's another one of those storyline bits where I'm shaking my head going, really?
01:04:26
Speaker
yeah ok All right. whatever maybe that's what Caleb didn't know about writing another email he's like I've only ever given news in person in print before like I didn't know this was possible I didn't know that you could delete an email let alone recover one should we move on to our final section of like if we look forward what do you see for Robben's future we've talked a bit about what they might well like when they might get back together but like what do you think that would look like where will they live what's their lifestyle talk us through it definitely selling the mill
01:04:59
Speaker
Well, the mill's already sold. Oh, is it? Because Caleb lives there now, right? I would assume Caleb bought it. Oh, i I thought they were still living. I thought John and him were still living in it. They've got like a flat at the top. They rent the upstairs. Oh, they rent the upstairs from him. I feel like the the whole mill is tainted now.
01:05:15
Speaker
Yeah. It's not Rob Ron's home anymore. No. Okay. Maybe they live in Victoria's house while she's on leave. I think they're going to build a nice ranch house on the land that Robert bought. Okay.
01:05:25
Speaker
Okay. They can build a brand new home together. Yeah, with Kevin's money. like that. I
Family Dynamics and Community Connections
01:05:30
Speaker
like that. I think there's definitely going to be a Rob Ron family experience again. i think it just plays so well, whether it was Rob Ron with or Rob Ron with Liv. think that that was just such a good, heartfelt piece to the show.
01:05:44
Speaker
i think there's going to be another... Maybe Seb shows back up. I feel i feel like Seb might come back into the picture because... I mean, maybe the aunt is old and doesn't want to yeah raise a kid anymore. Yeah, and they've mentioned him a few times. so More than they've mentioned Mac's kid. Yeah. Nameless child.
01:06:04
Speaker
And I think it'd be fun to have like the whole Ross-Seb dynamic in there as well, because obviously Ross feels like a dad to him, and I think that could be for some fun like antagonism, but also some sweet moments. Yeah, that would work. Yeah. Yeah. and know And I know that Scooter really wants Robert to have a friend. And so we've been trying to figure out like who his village friend is going to be. Robert needs a friend so badly.
01:06:24
Speaker
but i don't know who it should be. um Has he trust he ever had a friend? I'm trying to think. in the time He's never had a friend. Never had a friend. They've never given him a friend. What about Billy, who has, it would seem, been exiled from there? Yeah, like, maybe they could get on They both, like, are quite normal?
01:06:42
Speaker
As in, they have a fairly good read on on life and say things how they are and have been a bit hard done by. i do, yeah. I'd like Billy to be, you know, have some sort of screen presence and I think that'd be quite a nice way for him to do it. Also, he hates Ross, so that could be a fun thing. and Yeah, as a bonding experience. That's not hard, though.
01:06:58
Speaker
That's really not hard. Yeah. That's too funny. Hey, do you guys know the the connection between Ross and April or if there is one? Yes. was thinking of you listening to that. So Ross was in love with April's mom.
01:07:10
Speaker
um And they say they she was sort of like a little daughter to him. And then when Donna dropped herself off the edge of the police building, Ross was there watching it. And she was the one saying like, say goodbye to April for me.
01:07:24
Speaker
And it was heartbreaking. Oh, my God. That sounds crazy. Okay, so Rowan is not April's mom. i know so um Donna, who is Bob's daughter, is April's mom, which is why Bob's like April's grandfather.
01:07:37
Speaker
I see. Okay. that would we We were just discussing that this morning. Yeah. Earlier this year, Rob, not Rob, Ross and April spent a lot more time together and it was really nice. And they were like bonding.
01:07:49
Speaker
I can't remember what over. Oh, was it? It was when April had been homeless. And then when she came back to the village, he was like quite supportive of her and they had a really nice friendship. But now he doesn't really seem to be giving it the time of day.
01:08:01
Speaker
Yeah, guess he gets hot and cold on that. It would be okay if Ross caps off Celia for us. Oh, so anyone. yeah Anyone. Yeah. yeah But I could see if Ross had prior stepdaddy vibes, then maybe he would he wouldn't have problem. he's protective for sure. That would be great.
01:08:19
Speaker
I definitely feel like he is the one person that she should talk to about this. Yeah. He was not listening, which is a bit gutting. Well, she tried, right? She really did try. Yeah. Yeah. But Robert and Aaron going forward, I think it's going to be messy for a while, but I do think that they'll find it eventually. I think that the fans need it Otherwise things like when Simon stopped watching will happen. Yeah. like And so I think we will need some stability from them in the future, but I think it's going to be messy for a little while first. i same to of friends I would love Mac and Robert to be friends. And I know you mentioned the podcast, like Mac is obviously Aaron's friend, but like if we've got Adam back ah as we're planning, you know, that's the, you know, he's got his best friend back.
01:09:01
Speaker
You know, OG best friend. Mac takes second friend. Just forget about him. He can just hand them off to Robert. No, Mac can be your friend now. And I think that could be cute. Mac could be like, what, but you're my friend. he's like, don't worry. I've got to back up.
01:09:14
Speaker
He's like, thanks for staying in the bunker for a while for me, but I'm missing out to go back to my old friend. yeah But I do like the Robert and Matt chemistry. Like, they have had a good connection um already as friends. and so i But I still don't know how you play both sides like that. you know But then again, Victoria doesn't. Even though she's sister brother with Robert, she is...
01:09:37
Speaker
absolutely outwardly friends with uh aaron and you know we'll support him so maybe matt can play both sides of the fence i mean also i think he could be friends but with with vinny now that vinny's by i really want him and vinny to connect but i think it would be more like a mentor not a friendship although i feel like that might be a bit like the time when they tried to make like everyone was like aaron should be friends with finn it's like all we've got in common is being gay like we like we don't like it yeah no that's true um i'm a big fan of a platonic male female friendship uh both in life and in emmerdale and so in fact on our podcast you were saying that i wanted joe and tracy to be friends and i think maybe robert needs to find maybe charity they could have a fun like band i was just thinking that you're i was just thinking that that charity might be a good robert friend because they're both so flippant about some things you know what i mean and they're both a little shady about some things and
01:10:28
Speaker
Oh, can you imagine the double dating like Charity Mac and Aaron and Robert? That'd be great. yeah Oh, that would be really fun. I like that. Yeah, I maybe see that in the future. That could be really nice. I truly wish that we were script writers. I think we do. I know. And I can actually, I can see Robert having empathy for Charity on how she wound up carrying somebody else's baby on accident. I mean, he had a similar experience with Rebecca. So, so you know, it was an oops baby. It's a coming of age story.
01:10:58
Speaker
was the oops baby, you know. Sometimes the oops baby happens, you know. And we much love them. Yeah, Robert could help Mac come to terms with it, you know. ah man.
01:11:10
Speaker
This could work. I like this. I at least wish that the writers took our input and had us sit around the table with them to help discuss these stories. It's the very least we deserve.
01:11:22
Speaker
Absolutely. I was saying to Simon a couple of months ago, i met up with a friend who, it turns out before I was um into Emmerdale, and I was friends with this guy at the time, he was living with one of the scriptwriters from Emmerdale in the house share.
01:11:37
Speaker
No I just had no idea because, well, I did, but I didn't care about Emmerdale at the time. And I was like, oh, if I could go back in time. Imagine the network. know. How cool is that? I think I met her because I hung out at his flat a couple of times.
01:11:50
Speaker
You're like adjacent famous. You're like right next to the set. You've had experience with the screenwriters. Lizzie is like insanely adjacent famous. She's seen Joe Tate in the street. I walked past Joe Tate.
01:12:01
Speaker
I did hear that. like Was he wearing his riding pants? No. No. He doesn't get those off. They're on for life. Does he walk around town with his hands on his hips and those riding pants? I think they're probably welded to him at this stage. I'm looking forward to a lot of fun.
Robert's Return and Podcast Excitement
01:12:17
Speaker
I think bringing Robert back, I don't know if he signed a contract. I don't know if he's here indefinitely. He said he's back indefinitely. He said he's back indefinitely. No way, really? For good, yeah.
01:12:24
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like it's just going to bring a fresh energy and he is such a good actor. Well, Ryan Hawley is such a good actor. is. I think it's raised everybody else's game. Like, I think we're in for a treat the next little while on Emmerdale just because everyone's acting their best. I think because when Lizzie started watching, she just hadn't seen Aaron have...
01:12:41
Speaker
have have a good storyline she was just so stuck in that genre relationship and i was like i was always like danny miller is an amazing actor and lily know was like shena because he hadn't been given the chance you just haven't seen him make a face enough yeah now he's got so a partner to to do the good stuff with yeah i mean how do you not just have stink face when you're around john like right it's very difficult to have chemistry with a man who has no personality Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I do think it's to bad. think that they have earned the right to be staple couple in the village. I think that they have earned that right. Like, you know, Kane and Moira are a staple couple in the village. Like Nicola Jimmy, yeah. Yeah, like I feel like they have earned that right to be...
01:13:22
Speaker
one of those couples in the village and there's plenty of shenanigans they can get into as a couple they don't you absolutely right on still ever that or do you think the writers are always going to be like you guys are tempestuous and you have drama they're always going to give them drama they're going to give them drama i think because until they get a little older um until they have a child to take care of again i think that when they get that family vibe they settle down a little bit but and until you know robert's always got shenanigans or he always has shenanigans that he's going to get into you know i mean i think Aaron settled down and had the shop and stuff like that. But Robert's still always scheming like he's scheming now. And so they'll have trouble with that. But I firmly believe that in the next year they deserve to become a staple couple.
01:14:04
Speaker
And I mean, even even everyone in the show, like Mac and all of them, they're all like they're inevitable. Yeah. So I have a hard time seeing that blowing up into not being inevitable unless one of them leaves the show.
01:14:17
Speaker
Yeah. You know, I don't see them being neighbors and dating other people. No, i think you're right. i think there'll be a couple and there'll be some drama, but hopefully in a more stable way than their past has given them.
01:14:28
Speaker
And both the actors have kids now. They're like, we just need a stable income. yeah
01:14:37
Speaker
Yeah, they do do drama very well. Like they have good chemistry when they fight. They, you know, they have. So it's kind of like I can see the writers not wanting to give that up because it is such a good bit for them when they're at each other. but But they're great comic actors as well. I mean, Kane and Moira still at each other.
01:14:56
Speaker
yeah true. But in a kind of like there's they've got a backdrop of having quite a good foundation. And on top of that, yeah they have like fights. Right. That's what we want.
01:15:06
Speaker
Yeah. Right. Well, I guess we better wrap her up. Thanks so much for chatting with us today, guys. This has been a real treat. Yeah, we have been plenty to talk about. Thanks so much for being keen to do a collab. This has been great. We should do it again. Maybe like when there's been some sort of Rob Rump progression, we can check back in and see whether our predictions came true.
01:15:26
Speaker
I like that. Oh, that would be good. I like that. Yeah. And thanks for giving us an opportunity to have a break from reality and make some new friends across the pond and wel em us welcoming us into your homes and lives. And so it's been a real pleasure.
01:15:40
Speaker
yeah no i yeah And i have to say I'm really proud of myself. i think I filtered pretty good. I don't think we did any swear words this don't think we said anything inappropriate. You were capable boys and girls.
01:15:51
Speaker
I feel like we deserve a high five. Oh, but We can adult with class. Yeah. And then sometime we can do an all explicit episode where Lizzie and I learned to swear.
01:16:03
Speaker
And that can be. If that happens, when we can just do it. We can post it solely on our podcast. We already do it.
01:16:14
Speaker
Like 40 years of repression will leave me and it will just, you know, it really only takes a few shots of tequila and then you want to find yourself. I eat a drink, so that's the issue. Yeah. And thanks everyone for listening.
01:16:29
Speaker
yeah Yeah. Thanks everybody everyone for listening. Hopefully this is the most fun thing that they listen to all week. How could it not be? I know. I know. We're the best. Well, are you guys ready to figure out an awkward goodbye?
01:16:42
Speaker
I think we should just say Bye. Until next time. Bye.